2023 Wrestling Recap Special | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #723 – 12/21/23

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It's welcome everybody. Welcome to this
week' sit. It's in a story real

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to show episode number seven or twenty
three for December twenty first, twenty twenty

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three. Welcome to your first edition
of a holiday programming schedule on f R

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TV. You I am one alfter
the show, I am Jeff Pack joined

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every single week from my colors only
got to Trey Franklin, Doctor Trey.

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Happy Christmas Week to you, my
friend. Happy Christmas Week to you as

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well. So, as I was
telling you off air, I've actually been

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banished to our Christmas room. So
as we are recording the show right now,

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I am actually so I didn't even
I forgot. I bought a tom

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to Muscle Champa figure for Sammy Franklin, so I have Christmas present unwrapped just

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surrounding me as we record the show. I hope he doesn't download this podcast,

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and I suppose this Christmas if he
can figure out downloading. He's way

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more advanced than I get in credit
for all right, so we may have

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to splice that out at the beginning
of the show. So just stay tuned.

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Welcome, It's the first week of
our holiday programming schedule. This is

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where we recap professional wrestling in twenty
twenty three and we listen back to our

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bold predictions and our Wrestler at thirty
nine card predictions from the first show of

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the year, which was back on
January fifth of this year. Doctor Trey

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hates this episode, or that particular
part where we go back and listen to

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ourselves and how we did the last
couple of years. The bold predictions have

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been pretty bold and they haven't come
true, and wrestling isn't as predictable as

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it used to be, which is
good. We always want to be right,

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especially in this day and age of
Twitter x Facebook. We always want

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to be right. But I think
it's a good thing in for professional wrestling,

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Doctor Trey when we're not when we
make these bold predictions. So I'm

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interested to see how we did later
on in the show. See, I

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just look at it that even when
we're wrong, we just give ideas to

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the bigger companies that they could take
from us and be like, hey,

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some of these guys actually have some
good thoughts and so yeah, like we

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might be wrong, but we don't
be wrong in the short term. You

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might see it come to fruition down
the road. Somewhere. Yeah, so

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stay tuned. We'll see how we
did, folks later on in the podcast.

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We'll preface this by saying if anything
majors happened in professional wrestling this week

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or the next couple of weeks.
These are all pre recorded podcasts. We

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do this so that Doctor Trey and
I can get like three weeks off and

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still give you all new content.
If anything major breaks, will certainly jump

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into a bonus show. We are
planning on doing a bonus show to quickly

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preview predict aw World Zen, which
will be next week, so there should

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be a bonus podcast out there,
but anything that is timely, you know,

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we've pre recorded these in advance just
to get some time off. So

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we'll recap everything that we missed in
early Jane, like we typically do here

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each year on SRTU. So let's
begin by recapping World Wrestling Entertainment Doctor Trey

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Ross SmackDown NXT. It was a
good year, a really good year for

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world wrestling entertainment, a year that
was filled with unexpected returns like cmpunk,

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especially when he was aw at the
beginning of the year, and really good

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programming, storylines, matches, premium
live events, I've just recently come to

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grips that I should stop calling we
pay per views pay per views, because

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now they're plees. I think it
was a great year for w WE,

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Doctor Trey, it was a great
year for RAW, a solid year for

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SmackDown, and NXT continues to grow
positively. I think, on the onset

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of this discussion, I'm very happy
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Yeah, I mean, and the
way you broke it down is Zachi whoising

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I thought this was one of Raw's
best years in quite a long time.

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I mean, you and I used
to bemoan the fact that it was a

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three hour show and hour and a
half we'd be bored. And I don't

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think that we can say that over
the last six months, nine months that

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you know, Raw's been pretty damn
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solid. The Roman Rams part time
schedule does hinder it at times, and

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I don't know if we've really built
anybody else out of it other than maybe

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main event Jay Uso Solo so Coa's
on the come up, Jimmy USO's on

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the come up. We'll get in
the theories and the wallers and the Kevin

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Owens and the La Knights of the
world that are ascending, But I don't

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think it was on the level of
Raw and NXT's one of those ones.

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It's the growing pains of NXT.
When you're trying to build new stars,

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you'll have some shows that are fantastic, and you know, we just kept

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coming off Deadline, which we kind
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maybe the worst pl they've had,
but overall that that's just what you get.

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But as an overall product and the
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so if you you know a few
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you got to say we had a
really bang up year in twenty twenty three.

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Absolutely, it was a really really
strong year for the company. Again,

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very happy as a fan of we
and what they're doing right now.

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I think at the nail on the
Head Doctor Trey, we would always bemoan

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and be upset about how long Raw
was. We wanted it down from three

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to two hours, and this was
like pretty recently. I think when Triple

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H took over, I was like, please get Raw down to two hours,

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And I think they've sold me that
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of programming each and every week,
and they're doing it right now. You

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have your big top storylines, and
then the things that I love about Raw

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lately is that they are building up
the tag team division. You're seeing stuff

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with Diy, the Creed Brothers,
Imperium, They're building up the lower to

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mid card of their programming with Bronson
Reid feuding with Ivar, and those matches

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have been a ton of fun.
People like Ivar and Kofey Kings did a

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couple months ago had a really fun
match, and that's what I like.

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I like to see from top to
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And I know we always talk about
like the Attitude era and how great it

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was. It was led by people
like Son Cold, Tivoss and the Raw

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kurd Angle, Triple h Undertaker,
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time and they were so good because
the lower card people cared just as much

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about as the upper card. The
main events with wrestlers like d Lo Brown

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and the Nation Domination, the Godfather
valvinis whatever. I mean. They were

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the tag team division in that period
of time and it's reminiscent of that,

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and that's pretty cool. What you're
seeing on Raw SmackDown very solid. As

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Doctor Trey mentioned to me, the
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now is Roman Reigns in the Bloodline. I have really enjoyed that storyline,

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and it has felt like since SummerSlam, when Roman has really not been on

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television, that they've taken a back
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backseat that, like the Judgement Day
is a bigger stable or a more focused

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stable on WWE programming as of late
than the Bloodline, and you're feeling that.

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I think if the Bloodline and Roman
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they were a year ago, I
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better years, if not like the
best years of WI that we've seen in

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some time. If they were getting
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Smacked Down Roman Reigns was in twenty
twenty three, you'd be like, holy

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crap, this like ww's on fire. And again, just to recap with

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NXC, it's growing pains. It's
not what it was in the Black and

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Goal era when WWI network launched in
twenty fourteen and everybody fell in love with

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it and takeovers were like four point
zero shows each and every time that they

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went out there when we would recap
the pay per views, it is what

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it is, but it's exciting and
you know what it is, and I'm

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excited for the future of NXC as
they continue to grow. They've really taken

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steps forward since two point zero launched, and then they dropped two point zero

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thankfully because that was a very outdated
term. But it's on the right path.

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I'm really excited about. I think
they got the right guy running and

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overseeing as the champion and Elia Dragon
off very solid uppercard with Carmelo Hayes and

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Brown Breaker. The Carmelo Hayes and
Trick Williams storyline is really fun to watch

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and it's just good. It's good
programming. I encourage everybody to watch it

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if that's what they're looking forward,
you know, if they want to look

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for some more wrestling on a Tuesday
night, go out there and watch NXT.

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Don't expect what you're going to see
from Ron SmackDown each every week,

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but expect to see that like you're
seeing growth, You're seeing the future build

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and that's what's exciting. It's not
like tedious television where you're banging your habit

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against the wall like I've been in
the past with like rampage and collision lately

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in all elite wrestling, but all
in all, dout to Trey recapping full

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year twenty twenty three for WE,
it was another good strong year for World

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Wresting Entertainment. I think we could
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Yeah. I think what you're seeing
is actually the blend of what the new

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school folks and the old school folks
want. I mean we're getting I mean

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we're getting twenty you know, twenty
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like that, and you know,
you're getting the great storytelling. You're getting

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the fun little stuff like like all
of a sudden our Truth of the Judgment

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Days one of my new favorite things, Like it's just hilarious, you know.

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So you're getting that perfect little blend
of what the cornucopia of what wrestling

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really should be across WWE. And
that's that's why you've seen them kind of

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separate themselves from AW again this year, switching gears to AW when it comes

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to recapping their promotion. It was
it's a very difficult year to like put

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your finger on and go okay.
So how would I look at all lead

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wrestling? I feel like ae W
if I was given in it a letter

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grade if I'm a teacher, it
would be like a B or B minus.

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I always felt like Dynamite has delivered, and there have been very few

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times where as a fan, I
got done watching the show and didn't feel

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like I was entertained or had a
good two hour experience watching them watching the

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programming. As I pointed out here
on the podcast, the last couple of

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weeks, Rampage is like almost a
total throwaway show at this point, unless

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they're putting on like the Continental Classic
or something that a storyline substance that you're

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interested in. I feel like Rampage
has lost its way. However, like

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they had one of the best Rampage
matches I've ever seen in its history when

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they had top Flight in Action Andretti
taking on Alheil, Delvel, Kingo Commander

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and Pentel Sera Mieto in a trios
match a couple of weeks ago. That

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was a great, phenomenal trios match. I highly encourage everybody to go out

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and check out that specific match from
Rampage. So It's been disappointing to see

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like Rampage as a show that I
can't really care about because it feels like

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creatively they don't care about at times. Collision. I mean I was banging

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the drum here over the summer to
Doctor Trey. Doctor Trey's like, not

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not going to watch a Collision.
It's on a Saturday night. I don't

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know if it's worth seeing a DVR
like this is the best programming. And

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it was like when Campunk was there. I hate to chalk it up to

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that, but it was split rosters. They had a decent amount of storylines

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that were going on. There was
impactful matches to help launch it, and

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if it wasn't for the Continental Classic, it's like why am I watching this

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each and every week? So I
feel like Rampage and Collision as shows have

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lost their way, which is disappointing
to see. There are times that aw

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especially the last couple of pay per
views they've done with Wrestle Dream and Full

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Gear have knocked it out of the
park. Russell Dream had really terrible build

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up towards their matches. Full Gear
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Both pay per views from a wrestling
standpoint, were really good and delivered really

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well. And then towards the end
of twenty twenty three, from the news

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standpoint, you're hearing that AW wants
to go more of a New Japan route

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and focus more on in ring wrestling
and nut storylines and not creative. However,

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like their biggest thing that's going right
now is this devil storyline with MJF

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which confuses the hell out of me. People like QT Marshall are leaving the

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company. They are firing people that
were really popular and helped with production at

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the post production. I believe it's
Mike Manterray was no, no, no.

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Kevin Sullivan was fired by Mike Manserray, who came from WE. It's

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you know, there's like these weird
backstage stuff where there's negativity still and obviously

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the Jack Perry and cm Punk incidents, seeing Punk coming back, deal with

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the cmpunk drum all year. Yeah, it's it's a roller coaster with AW.

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Whether it's watching the product on television
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it is a roller coaster, and
it's an unfortunate roller coaster because I

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think the reason why we are getting
some of the best professional wrestling today is

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because of all the wrestling launching as
an organization and as a promotion. I

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don't think WWE puts out the promotion
and the matches and the storyline into the

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creative if it wasn't for AW pushing
them so, like we need AW to

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exist as wrestling fans and as a
resting fans. I love AAW. It's

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just a roller coaster ride, Doctor
Trey. It's like a disappointing roller coaster

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ride, because there are weeks it's
phenomenal and it's fun and I love it,

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and then there are weeks where it's
like, what the hell did I

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just watch for the last you know, three hours total on a Friday night

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with Rampage and then the two hours
on Collision on a Saturday night. So

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to me, if I'm giving it
a letter grade to recap all eat rest

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and I give it like a BB
minus for twenty twenty three, Yeah,

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if I was giving out a letter
grade for aw's year, I would have

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been in a B minus C.
Plush Dynamite's been pretty consistent throughout the year.

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Like you mentioned, a roller coaster, it's kind of a kid's roller

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coaster, like the highs weren't too
high, the lows weren't too low.

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But it's it kind of it kind
of meandered its way, but it was

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it was consistently good. Rampage to
me is like Sunday Night Heat was back

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in the days you mentioned the attitude. That's what Sunday Night He was.

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You'd have an occasional great match,
but the majority of the show is just

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enhancement matches and recaps and reviews of
what happened on raw And that's kind of

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what I feel like Rampage has turned
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Ish to a degree, like towards
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no real purpose other than to,
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watch Dynamite like kind of recap it. Collision has been much more of the

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roller coaster that you were talking about. Like I actually, because of you,

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I actually tuned in and watched the
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I was like, let me see
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it and it wasn't horrible. So
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they would kind of cut in and
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like they're trying to cram a lot
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So Collision, you know, like
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strong and then it just felt like
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once the Sea I'm Punk drama happened, it was just all over the place.

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feel like once again they're kind of
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Like I was watching this stuff with
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was like, okay, this this
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and Julia Hard I'm like, Okay, I can get into this. So

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these are there's some things that make
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the end of the tunnel, you
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from a company standpoint, and you
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consistency and what their plan of action
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we gonna focus just on entering products, Are we gonna, you know,

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do away with storylines or are we
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just kind of feels like almost like
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company. In place, and you
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you have the Devil's storyline or you
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earlier this year, but then you
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like you know, the Trios match
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then you hear like you like you
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been up. It was super up
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down. The company might lose thirty
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time slots because see them Punk's facilitating
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just kind of feels like every time
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in the face and that they two
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ebbs and flows and highs and lows, I think you got to come in

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or out of B minus C plus
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something recently like they mentioned on a
Dynamite about the firm, Like the firm

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came up in conversation and then I
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like wow, remember the firm.
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aw creative storylines that they don't follow
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to think about other things like the
Owen Heart Tournament where Ricky Stark's got a

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push coming out of it as the
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nothing, and it's like, well, then why do the tournament. It's

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very confusing at times, and it's
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that some storylines are affected by injuries
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but there are times where storylines are
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ball with them and that's not good. It's something that I hope that AW

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works on in twenty twenty four because
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came to the reports that they were
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like WWE is showing that you can
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on your ples, and it can
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you don't need twelve, and the
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and I can be excited to watch
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watch it, which is something that
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the year. In twenty twenty three. When it came to AW, it

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was like a whole bunch of matches
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reason and it made no sense.
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did make sense and had reason.
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It's like what, Like, what
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in a world where I love high
quality wrestling matches, but I need with

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my stake, as I said before, and it's like the Jim Ross line

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that he always uses, I need
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watch Hangman out of Page's for Strickland
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of months, and the reason why
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That's what you need. You need
the storyline, you need the entertainment,

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and you need the great, high
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direction AW needs to go. The
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be more new Japan not a lot
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wrestling fan that you could see it
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here on AW programming each and every
week. So that's the AW recap will

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certainly preview and predict in two weeks
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to be in twenty twenty four?
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AW Dotor Trey. We have the
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weeks. We have Ring of Honor
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wrestling umbrella. We have independent wrestling, which in years past I would follow

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a ton of independent wrestling. I
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of wrestling on my radar as much
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I don't watch Impact Wrestling. I
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going. I don't watch r OH. What about the wrestling not named WW

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and AW? Is there anything that
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in twenty twenty three you want to
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sestion in the podcast. I think
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up is there is great depth,
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whether it's the TNA slash Impact Wrestling, whether it's the MLWS, the CZWS,

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the Game Changers, the rest of
your evolvers. There is a lot

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of quality out there. The only
thing that maybe is lacking is the one

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thing I've said we've lacked in most
of professional wrestling. You don't have those

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guys that just jump off the page
and you're like, yes, that's a

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guy that should be featured on one
of the top two shows. You go

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around and you look at on these
companies and you have I almost feel like

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some of the EXWWE guys, the
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whether it's the EC threes, whether
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guys like that kind of dominate the
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wrestling, and I almost feel like
it's almost handicapping some of these promotions and

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that they just lean on those guys
and try to fill in voids. I

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mean, Matt Cardona is everywhere independent
wrestling. You know, EC Three's popping

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up everywhere, and now we're about
to flood the market with the Mustafa Ali's

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and the Dolph Ziglers and those kind
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I mean, hell ilearly saw a
video of their day of Alberto del

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Rio wrestling and an independent show in
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mean that just kind of shows you
that where we're at with it, it's

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there's a lot of quality, a
lot of depth, but nobody's really standing

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out and making me take notes.
I have a couple of friends of mine,

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a couple of guys. I know
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does go to the independence. I'm
sure you saw the moon Salt last call

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type move that broad breaker through at
the Pliot deadline. Shane Mercer has been

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doing that for three years, you
know. I saw him do it to

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a three hundred fifty pounds man this
past week. So there's quality out there,

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but we just need you just need
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out. I mean, you know, you see aw bringing in a lot

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of these talents onto their Ring of
Honor final battleshow that Brian Keats of the

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World, Billy Starks. They're great
talents, but they don't really stand out

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to me as being anything unique and
different. I'm just waiting for somebody to

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just take hold. I mean the
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You know that's out there. I
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the same thing or kind of the
same look and the same move sets You

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just want somebody kind of grab that
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much like the Orange Cassidy's, the
Dan Houses those guys did a few

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years ago. Man, that's a
fantastic point. I remember the days when

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Ring and Honor, when it was
owned by Sinclair, when it was owned

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by Kerry Silkin, and it was
like, Hey, you got to go

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check out this guy named Brian Danielson, You got to go check out this

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guy named Nigel McGinnis, You got
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because mean Kevin Stein and Elgin Erico, the American Wolves, or Chris Hero,

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Claudio Cassagnoley, Kenny Omega, Matt
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Like I missed those days where you
would find a wrestler that was tearing up

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the independence and like, WWE needs
to sign them, TNA needs to sign

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them. Those days are kind of
long gone now because they're getting signed immediately

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by AW for roh or showing up
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it's good for those wrestlers because they
don't have to grind as much as the

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people before them, But I missed
those days, that day and age.

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Like the last one I can remember
too was like check out Nick Wayne over

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on Defy Wrestling in Seattle and you
find Nick Wayne, and all of a

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sudden you find out like aw Ass
signed him two years out and then all

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of a sudden he started peering on
television, which I'm happy for him.

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Billy Starks was one of those names
that popped up and all of a sudden

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she signed. It happens really fast. It's great for their livelihood. I'm

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not against it, but I do
miss the day and age where those wrestlers

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were making the towns and building their
name, building their craft, and you'd

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find them on YouTube, you'd find
them on Twitter these clips and they became

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like the best cast kept secret and
professional wrestling. And it was seeing Metallica

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at that club in front of two
hundred and fifty people before they sold out

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MetLife Stadium in New Jersey ten years
ago. Like I remember when I saw

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Metallica win blah blah blah before they
were big. So is that example that

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I bring up and it's something that
is missed nowadays in professional wrestling. I

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think you brought up a great point, Doctor Trey, that a lot of

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independent wrestling is headlined by name value
now EC three, Fandango, Mac Hardona.

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We're gonna have a bunch of released
aUI stars in the coming weeks out

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on the independence. Actually, by
the time I think this drops is the

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ninety and eight no compete is out
there, so I have to expect that

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some of them will be making the
independent scene. And I don't know,

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it's been a complete reverse. It's
like the major drawback to aaw being in

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there is like there's getting a lot
of those talents now for AWRH, it's

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a double edged sword because it has
lost some of the independent field to it.

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Some things I'll add Outside of independent
wrestling, I'm very excited to see

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how TNA performs with it's re christened
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They've made some signings I saw recently
Kaushida has signed with TNA, Eddie Edwards

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has returned re signed with the TNA. Interested and see how that goes.

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I'm hopeful that Roh does something on
television that I want to make time for

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and check out. They're not really
doing that under the aw umbrella completely,

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to be completely honest, you know, outside of matches that may pop up

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from like hey you got to check
this out for Final Battle or whatever,

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it just feels like it's another rampage
or collision instead of a dynamite what have

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you. That it's feeling like right
now. So it's it's a strange time

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for outside of professional wrestling, not
named W and AW anything else. We

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want to recap your doctor trip before
we look into our Bowl predictions and wrestlemy

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thirty card predictions from the first show
of the year. No, I you

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know you actually reminded, he said, Like, you know, we were

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mentioning aw earlier and then with the
Ring of ter Final Battle, I mean,

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the Kyle Fletcher push was so that
they were really big on and then

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they dropped and then now Kyle Fletcher's
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I will say this, I mean, it's it's it's kind of like I'm

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trying to come up with a good
example here with all these influx of the

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former AWWW guys making their way back
into the independence, it's kind of like

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watching you know some of the it's
kind of like watching Triple A Baseball,

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Like you'll see that guy that used
to play for the Yankees and you're like,

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man, I remember when Greg Byrd
was playing first base for the Yankees,

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and now he's in Triple A Columbus, So you still get that kind

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of you know, name value to
go out there and watch. There are

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some guys out there, the Alex
Hammerstones of the World, Alex Kine,

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who's a guy we know from the
area, Osha Edwards, you know,

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the Odin Sins of the world,
the guys I've been mentioning for a few

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years, Shane Mercer, Like I
just mentioned Anthony Alanas. There's a few

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guys that we've seen, you know, right on the fringe that if you're

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in the area, go check them
out. Because hell, that's how I

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found out about Sore Strickler. Zora
Strickland a few years ago is wrestling a

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friend of mine at a show in
Tennessee, and I was like, damn,

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this guy is really good, and
now he's one of the main attractions

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in professional wrestling. So when you're
out there, just you know, go

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check out your shows because that's the
bread and butter for where these talents come

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from is from guys like Jeff and
I and you going out pay your fifteen

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twenty bucks to get into a show, and that name recognition getting out there

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is how these guys get gabbled up
by the bigger companies. Yeah, there

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are certainly names that you can find
out there on the independence that still have

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that value of like I saw Metallica
before they became Metalica. But it's a

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little bit harder than it used to
be for old guys like doctor Trey and

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I. Right now, so interesting
time and all in all in the world

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of professional wrestling, here is we
recapped, WEAW and everything not named WWE

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and aew here on this week's edition
of SRTU. Doctor Trey, Now it's

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the time for that you hate the
most when I reopen the vault of SRTU.

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Are you ready for this? My
friend? Thank God, I'm throuting

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like Christmas presents because I can just
drown my sorrow and as the Spensers and

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candy canes all right, well,
I guess there's always a silver lining,

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silver lining in it all. So
let's open up the vault as we recap

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our bold predictions and WRESTLEMANA thirty card
predictions from the first show of this year

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back on January fifth, twenty twenty
three, Doctor Trey, it is time

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to open up and share. Are
twenty twenty three bold predictions and WrestleMania thirty

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nine card predictions. Would you like
me to go first and get mine out

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of the way, my friend,
sure, go right ahead, All right,

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So here are my five bold predictions
for twenty twenty three. My first

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one is MJF signed with WE the
moment he becomes a free agent. Number

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two FTR leaves AW and the Revival
return to the WE to feud with diy

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on Raw. Number three Kazuchka Okada
wins the AW Championship to help rejuvenate the

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brand and with longtime rival Kenny Omega. Number four Roman reigns historic championship run

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comes to an end and he begins
to test the Hollywood waters and becomes a

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true part timer. And then my
fifth and final bold prediction, The Rockets

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announced for the w W Hall of
Fame. Wrestles in a retirement match at

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WRESTLEMANA thirty nine and ends his wrestling
career winning the w Universal Championship In that

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retirement match Doctor Trede. Those are
my five bold predictions for twenty twenty three.

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I like those are those are pretty
strong, really digging the rock one

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because I kind of have a little
bit the same thing when we get to

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our WrestleMania card prediction. So yeah, like those those are really really good,

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like and none of them are crazy
long shot, I'll put it that

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way. Like they're safe, right, They're they're yeah, I mean they're

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believable. Yes, I can.
I can realistically see all of those things

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happening, like you know, it
may take a couple of strings, may

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have to happen up all the plays, but those are all very very realistic

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to me, So I applaud you
from them, all right, Dot Tray

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now to her turn five bold predictions. All right, So Number one,

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Brian Danielson turns heel and when's the
AEW title this year? I really want

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to see hipster Brian Nailsen comeback.
I him title and all bring the whole

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thing, bring the whole package back. Number two Cody returns, When's the

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Royal Rumble? And then dethrones Roman
reigns at WrestleMania this year. Number three,

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this McMahon makes an appearance in WWE. It's not It may just be

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a TV appearance. It maybe should
be a little one off, but we

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actually see Evince inside of some form
of WWE in twenty twenty three. Number

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four, Tony Kahan makes his in
ring debut in aaw in twenty twenty three.

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I potentially see him like in a
match somehow with MJF towards the end

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of twenty twenty three. And finally
number five, we hear rumblings about aw

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Bean put up for sale at some
point in twenty twenty three. Wow,

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those are some bold predictions, my
friend. Yeah, I went safe with

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the first two, but then the
last three. I'm like, look,

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it's not a bold prediction unless you
put some balls behind it. So I

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thought my last three were kind of
a little bit out there that they know

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if look it was it was three
years ago. I think I said,

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bray Wyatt paces bray Wyant, and
you look at itw three years later,

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like that could possibly happen now?
So it could. Yeah, So I'm

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digging in Vincric Man making a return, Tony Kahan getting in the ring,

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aw Bean for sale at the end
of this year. That is one of

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the boldest ones. I think I've
heard in some time on this show,

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Doctor Try. I just I just
think Tony's dad goes, hey, are

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you really making any money with this
wrestling thing? Is a really good at

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business investment. Let's see what Let's
see what offers are out there. If

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people are offering money for WWE.
Hey, we got two time slots available

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on you know, pretty big cable
TV and a brand that has a pretty

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decent roster. Let's see if somebody
wants to make a move. All right,

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I like it. Do you want
to kick us off? Then?

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With the Russell many thirty nine car
predictions? Sure, because mine's very long.

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It's about thirty six matches for one
for each minute, ever each hour.

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I was literally like as I put
in the car together, like I'm

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forgetting somebody. I'm forgetting somebody.
I'm forgetting somebody and trying to find holes

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for everybody. So I'm gonna start
at the top and work my way down.

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I have Roman Reigns working twice at
WrestleMania this year. I am Roman

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wrestling the Rock on Night one with
Roman beating the Rock, but then coming

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00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:49.119
back on Night two in wrestling Cody
Roads and Cody Roads beating the Rock You've

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been beating beating them. Roman reigns, Yes, okay, because then I

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can play it off. You can
played off that Roman had Russell twice.

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He's exhausted. That's why Cody won. So there you go. Give him

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ant For the Raw Women's Championship,
I have Bianca bell Air versus Charlotte Flair

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for the SmackDown Women's Championship. I
have Becky Lynch against Ronda Roussi. For

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the tag team titles. I have
Sammy Sammy's A and Kevin Ellen versus the

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USOS for the Interner Continent title.
Gouluther versus Seamus for the US title,

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00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:25.000
Austin Theory versus John Cena because I
literally heard Austin Theory you make another reference

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00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:29.200
to John cenas a couple of weeks
ago on Raw, so I think it's

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still on in the plans at some
point. For the women's tag team titles,

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I have Damage Control defending against Toxic
Attraction, Bobby Lashley is Brock Lesner,

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00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:45.039
Drew McIntyre versus Solo Socoa Edge,
and Beth Phoenix versus Finn Balor and

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Rhea Ripley the Battle of the mysterios
as Papa Ray takes on baby Boy Dominic

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d I Y reunite to face the
Mizz and Broughton Reid the New Day versus

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Legato del Fantasma. I have a
fatal four way tag match, the Viking

484
00:34:02.599 --> 00:34:08.119
Raiders versus the Brawling Brutes versus Street
Profits versus Alpha Academy. I brought back

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the Andre, well, maybe not
brought back, but the under the Giant

486
00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:15.760
Battle Royal against one by Brown Breaker. We get Bray Wyatt versus Uncle Howdy.

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00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:20.960
I also doing a Money in the
Bank match because I realized that both

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Money in the Bank briefcase winners have
cashed in and there were rumblings that they

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wanted to do away with that as
a payer review and bring it back for

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WrestleMania. So we have at Money
the Bank briefcase match won by La Knight,

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and literally, because I forgot I
didn't have seth Rollins on the card,

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I have seth Rowins against Baron Corbyn, just because those guys have to

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have something to do, all right. So there you go, Doctor Trace

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wrestl MAINNY thirty nine car Predictions.
There's some similarities there from Doctor Trey's list

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that are on my card as well. I have about eighteen matches. I

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figured nine to nine for each show. I hit eighteen as well. I

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have Roman Reigns working both knights as
well. I have Roman Reigns defending the

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w Universal Championship against the Rock.
I have him defending the w WEE Championship

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against Royal Rumble winner Cody Rhodes.
I also have the usso's defending both championships.

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I feel like they're going to try
to separate the titles at Rust May

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thirty nine, so I have the
USO's defending the SmackDown Tag Team Championship against

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Kevin Owens and Sammy Zain. I
have them defending the Raw Tag Team Championship

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against the reformed DIY Johnnick Gargarano,
Tomasso Champa. I have Bianco Bellair defending

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00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:25.840
the Royal Women's Championship against Osca.
I have Ronda Rousey defending the SmackDown Women's

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Championship against Royal Rumble Winder winner Becky
Lynch. I have Gunther defending the Intercontinental

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Championship against Brock Lesner. I have
Stone Cold Steve Austin taking on Seth Rollins.

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Ah, that's a good one.
I have bron Breaker defending the NXC

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00:35:43.719 --> 00:35:50.360
Championship against Bobby Lashley. I have
Austin Theory defend the United States Championship against

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John Cena, Ray Mysterio versus Dominic
Masterio Edgen Beth Phoenix taken on Finn Ballen

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00:35:55.320 --> 00:36:00.519
and Rieta Ripley, Charlotte Flair versus
Shannon Basler. I have Drew McIntyre taken

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on aj Styles, bray Wyatt taken
on Carrying Cross. I have Pat McAfee

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and Seamus taken on Logan and Jake
Paul. And then I have the Andre

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00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:17.119
the Giantmorial Battle Royal won by Damian
Priest and the WrestleMania Women's Battle Royal returning

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and Bailey as the winner. So
those are my eighteen matches for wressel MANA

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thirty nine Doctor Trey. Yeah,
the gunther Latt or the Gun through Lesler

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one. That was one of the
ones I thought about doing, but then

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I'm like, what if Brock wins, they are condoal title, Like that's

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00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:35.599
that's just kind of like I was
trying for your way to get out of

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00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:37.920
that booking. So that's why I
went with the easy one. But no,

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you're a card looks. I thought
about putting the Women's Battle Royal in

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here, and I kind of had
the same thing. I kind of have

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Bailey winning as well. In my
head, I didn't put on my card

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00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:51.000
bray Wyatt and carrying Cross be really, really fun. But I just don't

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00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:54.480
think the bray Wyatt storyline'll be settled
down by the time we get to WrestleMania.

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But I'm like, crap, that
Seth stone cald match week fantastic.

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And then I thought about even doing
see him Punk and stone Cold, but

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once again, I just don't think
he was gonna le him out his contracted

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out. And then I don't think
seampunk is healthy right now too to wrestle

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at WrestleMania. Yeah, but stone
Call's fifty. I mean, really,

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00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:14.199
you don't have to do a whole
lot. You just go put him out

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00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:16.079
there, let throws of punches and
then go home. Like we play with

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00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:20.960
that, guys. Steve Austin won
our Match of the Year on last Switch

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00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:23.400
Stations show for both of us think
about that, Like I thought about that

534
00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:28.440
after we were done with the show
this last week. I was like,

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I can't believe that in twenty twenty
two, we gave our Match the Year

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to Stone Cold Steve Austin. Like
still, that was a mind blowing moment

537
00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:38.960
to me. I would have never
guessed that at all. But the other

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thing was, I think he's back
again, Doctor Dry. There was a

539
00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:45.840
part of me that thought about pulling
the Rock out of the Roman match and

540
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:49.119
doing Rock and Stone Hold. That
would be if you're gonna do a retirement

541
00:37:49.199 --> 00:37:57.480
match, loser must retire again.
I guess, question Mark, because there's

542
00:37:57.480 --> 00:38:00.760
been times where they've been retired,
and really I don't know. So there

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you go, Doctor very five bold
predictions from both of us and WRESTLEMANTD thirty

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nine car predictions, any and any
final thoughts on on our two lists before

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we uh we close up the Vault
and lock away the Key and only to

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be listened to again in December twenty
twenty three. I'm really excited about the

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00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:20.119
WrestleMania show this year and either card
if we're half write to me a phenomenal

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00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:27.599
card. Like I said earlier,
like this is maybe the early defining moment

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of Triple H's run. You know, running the company is because this WrestleMania

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00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:35.760
show, because this is the first
wings that have his fingerprints all over it.

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But heck, I mean you look
at the guys he's got. He

552
00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:43.039
surrounded himself with. He's got a
great bunch of guys and kind of have

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their pulse on what you know.
The rest. Yeah, I think about

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00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:49.239
a triple A Shawn Michaels. Those
guys are just a little bit older than

555
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:52.599
me, so they kind of have
their finger on the pulse of what you

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00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:57.760
know, pro wrestling fans want.
So I'm really excited for WrestleMania this year.

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So there you go. There's our
five bold predictiontions, our wrestle aty

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thirty nine card predictions. And hopefully
when this audio is replayed, we are

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00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:10.480
right and we look like geniuses like
we always do. So that is that

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00:39:10.679 --> 00:39:19.639
is our hopes once we replay this
audio come December twenty twenty three. All

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right, and now we're back here
to recap our bold predictions and wrestle Any

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thirty card predictions from the first show
of the year back on January fifth,

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Doctor Trey in my tally, I
gave you five points. I gave me

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four points. So I would say, and we'll go through it and we'll

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see how we agree or disagree on
this. I would say, from my

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points here that I would give you
the victory over bold predictions and wrestle many

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00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:53.199
thirty nine card predictions. So as
it stands right now, we can reconfirm

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once we go through this, I
would be I would give you, I

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would bend the knee and give you
the victory here on this one, Doctor

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Trey. I'm just gonna say I
can take a win when I can get

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one, because I absolutely got smoked
in predictions this year. So if I

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could take a win at something right
now, I will gladly take it.

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But I'm trusting your calculations. You
are much more of the mathematician than I

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am, all right, So looking
at my bold predictions, I did not

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give myself a single point. So
I had MGF science with WWE. The

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moment he becomes a free agent didn't
happen. Fgr leaves AW and the revival

577
00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:35.400
returns to the W to feud with
diy On Raw didn't happen. Kazisko Okata

578
00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:38.760
wins the AW Championship to help rejuvenate
the brand and feud with longtime rival Kenny

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00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:44.679
Omega that didn't happen. Roman reigns
historic championship run comes to an end as

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00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:47.599
he begins to begins to test the
Hollywood waters. It becomes a true part

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timer. That didn't happen. The
Rock gets announced for the w Hall of

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Fame, wrestles in a retirement match
at Wrestlming. He thirty nine and ends

583
00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:59.280
his wrestling career winning the WA Universal
Championship. That didn't happen. I give

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myself oh for five. The only
thing I could say as a potential is

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if we wanted to give half credit, and I'm fine by not is saying

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that DIY returned and was on Raw, which Dy at the time we did

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00:41:12.920 --> 00:41:15.880
not know was coming back. I
would be willing to give myself a point

588
00:41:16.440 --> 00:41:20.360
half a point, but I'm fine
by saying that was not half a point.

589
00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:27.199
Yeah, that's that's tricky because the
whole prediction was more about FTV was

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d I wat fair fair? So
no zero for five there, folks.

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00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:36.159
Then Doctor Trey's Bold Predictions. Brian
Danielson turns heel and wins the AW World

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Championship. Cody Rhodes returns. I
did not give that a point. Cody

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Rhodes returns, wins the Royal Rumble
and dethrones Roman reigns at resumated thirty nine.

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I gave that a half a point
because he did win the Royal Rumble,

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but he did not dethrone. Vincickman
makes a we television appearance he has

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not by the time we record this, no points. Tony Kahan makes his

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00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:59.599
awn ring debut that hasn't happened.
No points. We hear rumblings of AWB

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00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:02.079
and Soule that didn't happen, So
I gave it full half a point.

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The only thing I would consider giving
half a point, as we discuss it

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together, is maybe half a point
to Brian Daniels a turning heel. But

601
00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:14.760
you and I always were confused,
like is the Blackpool Combat Club heels or

602
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:21.199
not? Yeah, I'm still confused
because watching the continento Plastic, I saw

603
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:27.000
Danielsen play a baby facing his andrate, but then Claudio need Androtte in the

604
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:30.840
groin to win a match. So
I still I don't even want to say

605
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:34.239
half a credit for that is because
I don't know what they're doing. The

606
00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:37.679
other thing I would say half a
credit, like a partial credit. Maybe

607
00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:39.639
not the rumbleys they're getting sold,
but because of all the talks of water

608
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:43.840
bers, they might get canceled.
I don't know, I don't know.

609
00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:45.719
I'm gonna say no points. I
gave you the half a point on Cody

610
00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:50.599
Returning winning the Royal Rumble though,
Okay, I'll say, yeah that was

611
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:52.440
fair, So half a point out
of five. Like back in the day,

612
00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:55.119
Doctor Tran and I would get like
two out of five, three out

613
00:42:55.159 --> 00:43:00.320
of five. It's completely changed now, so we've got more bold though over

614
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:04.239
the years. Yeah, I think
I think we're challenging our thought selves a

615
00:43:04.280 --> 00:43:07.920
lot more. Yeah, I'll go
with that. Yeah, that or we're

616
00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:12.760
just completely out of touch. Doctor
Trace wrestled many thirty card nine thirty nine

617
00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:15.400
card predictions. He had Roman Reigns
versus The Rock for the undisputed W Universal

618
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:19.960
Championship. That didn't happen. Roman
Reigns versus Cody Rhodes Royal Rubble winner for

619
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:24.239
the undisputed W Universal champion. That
happened. Bianca Belair versus Charlotte Flair for

620
00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:28.800
the Raw Women's Championship with Bianca defending, That didn't happen. Becky defending the

621
00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:34.159
smackdo Owens Championship against Ronda Rowsey did
not happen. The Uzzo's defending the Undisputed

622
00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:39.039
WA Tag Team Championship against Kevin Owens
and Sammy Zan did happen. Gunther defending

623
00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:43.880
the Intercontinental Championship against Seamus I gave
it half a point because it was a

624
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:47.400
triple threat he was in the match. Drew McIntyre was also added to this.

625
00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:51.760
Austin Theory defended the United States Championship
against John Cena. I gave a

626
00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:55.199
full point. Damage Control versus Toxic
Attraction for the w Women's Sack Team Championship

627
00:43:55.239 --> 00:44:00.320
didn't happen. Bobby Lashley versus Brock
Lesner didn't happen. Drew McIntyre vers Solo

628
00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:04.480
so CoA didn't happen. Edgend Beth
Phoenix versus Finn Balenerta Ripley didn't happen.

629
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:08.639
Ray Masteria versus Dominic Mascio did full
point. DIY versus the Mizon Bronson Redi

630
00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:13.320
didn't happen. New Day versus the
Goatto del found Tasma didn't happen. And

631
00:44:13.360 --> 00:44:15.400
then the rest of the card here
Viking Raiders versus Brolin Brutes, for Strength

632
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:20.880
Profits versus alph Academy didn't happen.
Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Warner was not

633
00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:24.639
bron Breaker Bray White versus Uncle Howdie
unfortunately did not happen. Lat Knight winning

634
00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:29.440
money in the bank ladder match didn't
happen. Seth Rons versus Baron Corbin did

635
00:44:29.519 --> 00:44:32.960
not happen. So I gave one, two, three, four, four

636
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:38.119
and a half points my tally A
Ladder tag match? When was that one?

637
00:44:38.159 --> 00:44:40.960
Do you remember that one? We'll
talking about the one. There wasn't

638
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:45.480
a Ladder tag match. There was
a Wrestlemaniam Men's Tag team Showcase match.

639
00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:51.320
Okay, welcome a couple of those
teams in the showcase match. Yeah,

640
00:44:51.400 --> 00:44:52.280
let me take a look at that, actually, because that could be a

641
00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:58.679
debatable half a point. Here,
try to get by half a point?

642
00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:04.039
Ye you still, I would say, you still want Street Profits defeated Braunz

643
00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:07.119
Strowman and Ricochet, Alphae Academy and
the Viking Raiders. I'll be willing to

644
00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:09.880
give you three points or excuse me, half a point on that one.

645
00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:14.360
I got three of the four.
You want to do three quarters, Well,

646
00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:15.760
I'll take the hat, I'll take
the haf Okay, so let's do

647
00:45:16.679 --> 00:45:22.840
we'll do another half a point here. Of course, all my copy and

648
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:27.800
paste isn't working on my sheet that
I operate here. This is like all

649
00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:30.639
over the place for some reason.
It's like my keyboard is not working.

650
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:36.239
Tamn me, doctor Trey there it
is. So I'm gonna give you five

651
00:45:36.320 --> 00:45:38.679
and a half points. Let's see
if I can stretch any out of mine

652
00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:45.400
my wrestlingy thirty nine car predictions.
Rains versus The Rock for the w Universal

653
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:49.480
Championship did not happen. Roman Reigns
versus Cody Rhoades Royal Romo winner for the

654
00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:52.559
w w E Championship did happen.
I gave myself a half a point because

655
00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:54.800
he defended the Universal Championship. I
had a plan that it was going to

656
00:45:54.840 --> 00:46:00.519
be split Whosos versus Kevin Owens and
Samy's A for the smack On Tag Team

657
00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:04.920
Championship. Again half a point.
I had SmackDown in Raw titles being split

658
00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:08.480
up. That did not happen.
USA's versus Diy did not happen. Bianco

659
00:46:08.519 --> 00:46:13.400
Bellair versus Oscar for the Raw Women's
Championship did happen. Full point. Rousey

660
00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:16.239
versus Becky Lynch had Becky win in
the Rumble for the SmackDown Women's Championship did

661
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:21.159
not happen. Gotha versus brock Lesnon
for the Air Countin L Championship didn't happen.

662
00:46:21.239 --> 00:46:23.960
Steve Austin versus seth Rons did not
happen. Bron Breaker versus Bobby Lashley

663
00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:29.480
for the NXC Championship didn't happen.
Austin Theory versus John Cena for the United

664
00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:34.880
States Championship did theory. Defending Reymster
versus Dominic Masterio did happen. So that's

665
00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:38.239
another point. Matches that I gave
myself no points on because they didn't happen.

666
00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:43.559
Was edgend Beth Phoenix versus Finnvalineria Ripley, Charlotte Flair versus Shannon Basler,

667
00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:47.400
McIntyre versus A j styles Bray Whitt
versus Carrying Cross, Pat McAfee and Shamus

668
00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:52.920
versus Logan Paul and Jake Paul Andre
the Giant Memorial Battle Royal Damian Prees,

669
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:59.360
and then WRESTLEMANI Women's Battle Royal Bailey. So I gave myself from the card

670
00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:02.000
half a point, half a point, one two three, so about four

671
00:47:02.039 --> 00:47:05.719
points. So that's where all my
points came from. Doctor Trey. Any

672
00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:09.519
thoughts on the point tally here.
Now, the point is Shane is a

673
00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:15.519
Ronda Rossi versus Becky Lynch. The
most missed opportunity ww's done in the last

674
00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:16.960
few years. God yeah, man, I mean that just seemed like a

675
00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:21.159
four conclusion. I mean they had
it booked for Survivor series and the famous

676
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:25.440
because it was brought up recently.
Ni Jack's punched that birthed the Man happened,

677
00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:29.760
and then they never did it,
like one on one. It's just

678
00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:31.199
like I'm sitting here, like I
think about their dad's like, man,

679
00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:35.559
you know, like Charlotte's injury being
out for nine months and we never got

680
00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:37.239
the four horse went for the first
of the four horse women. We know

681
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:43.719
Sasha being gone, now Ronda is
gone, Marie like like Shane is alone,

682
00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:47.760
Mma horsewoman left and you still got
three of the four wrestling ones.

683
00:47:47.840 --> 00:47:52.280
But I mean that was a big
thing that could have been another re launching

684
00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:54.280
of women's wrestling, and it kind
of got pushed to the side because of

685
00:47:55.159 --> 00:47:59.039
whatever whatever reasons you want to put
in there. Yeah, it was very

686
00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:00.480
very strange, and that I agree
with you. I mean, if we're

687
00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:04.360
gonna sit here in bash aw creative
a time, like, how do they

688
00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:07.480
never do and it may never happen. Now, Becky Lynch versus Ronda Rousey,

689
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:10.480
that's gonna be one of the biggest
what ifs in w WA I can

690
00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:15.360
remember in the last ten years,
the entire time doing this podcast. Honestly,

691
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:17.840
actually, it just it just brought
it just flashed in my mind.

692
00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:21.840
I'm like, I can't believe we
never had that one on one for that

693
00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:24.199
match. Well, to me,
it's like in the same vein as once

694
00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:28.039
Hogan came back in two thousand and
two to w WA, Like, how

695
00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:30.920
do they never do Steve Austin versus
Hogan? I know Austin was not interested

696
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:35.280
at all and Hogan was not up
to snub for the match, which I've

697
00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:37.840
heard Jim Ross say, which is
strange because then he had a match with

698
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:42.159
Triple H and Rock an Undertaker during
that time frame. I feel like Rock

699
00:48:42.360 --> 00:48:45.199
and excuse me, Austin and Hogan
in the early two thousands is one of

700
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:50.039
those like what if missed opportunities by
w A. Yeah, it's just like

701
00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:54.039
Hogan Flair WrestleMania we never got.
Yep. That's with the Hogan sid and

702
00:48:54.239 --> 00:48:58.840
Savage for me, Yep, there's
the great lineage that you just said there,

703
00:48:58.920 --> 00:49:05.239
my friend is Hogan Flair, Austin
Hogan, and I would say Ronda

704
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:07.880
and Becky never happening because they played
it up like they hated each other.

705
00:49:08.199 --> 00:49:12.480
So total missed opportunity, but all
on a nut tre I gave you five

706
00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:15.480
and a half points here and the
corrected I gave myself four. Not too

707
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:20.039
bad for the bold predictions wrestlmingting thirty
card, thirty nine car predictions from the

708
00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:22.039
first show of the year. I
think we did okay with the wrestle Meet

709
00:49:23.280 --> 00:49:27.840
prediction one. I think I don't
I don't know. Like I said earlier,

710
00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:30.280
you and I used to always throw
in one or two that we were

711
00:49:30.519 --> 00:49:34.000
fairly certain would probably happen, and
there was like three that were really bold.

712
00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:37.920
I think this past year, I
mean outside of me saying Cody was

713
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:39.960
going to win the rumble, outside
of that, like everything you and I

714
00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:43.559
threw out there was going to be
like, really really hard to pull off.

715
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:45.559
I think I think we thought Rock
was coming back, though I think

716
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:49.920
we both were in agreement, and
I also think based off of our our

717
00:49:50.119 --> 00:49:52.480
car predictions here, I think we
were both sold that Rousey versus Becky was

718
00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:55.559
going to happen. Well, once
again, it's one of those matches.

719
00:49:55.559 --> 00:49:59.000
If you're going to have a wrestle
MANIAM match with two women going at it,

720
00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:01.000
one of my potentially headline the show
with that would be the most obvious

721
00:50:01.159 --> 00:50:05.119
choice. And then the stuff with
the Rock, I blame his TV show,

722
00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:07.159
Young Rock, because that's what they
kind of kept alluding to. And

723
00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:09.199
that's where you and I caught the
fervor for that match. Was Heal the

724
00:50:09.360 --> 00:50:14.079
mentioning it on a sitcom it's probably
going to happen on TV, and then

725
00:50:14.079 --> 00:50:16.199
you come to find out they were
doing that purposely, So I mean obviously,

726
00:50:16.280 --> 00:50:19.960
and Rock came out earlier this year
and said that there were plans for

727
00:50:20.480 --> 00:50:23.559
a match at WRESTLEMANI thirty nine in
LA. So we will be doing the

728
00:50:23.639 --> 00:50:28.840
same now. We'll be doing our
bold predictions in Wrestlmingia forty card predictions during

729
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:31.920
our first show of the year in
the next two weeks on Thursday, January

730
00:50:31.960 --> 00:50:35.280
the fourth, So stay tuned for
that, and of course we'll reopen the

731
00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:37.559
volt in about a year's time and
see how Doctor Trey and I did.

732
00:50:38.119 --> 00:50:43.159
All In all, with that said, Doctor Trey, let's close up shop

733
00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:45.239
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734
00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:47.920
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742
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748
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it is really really hard to put
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sure guys find their elimination buddy to
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twenty twenty three on Thursday, December
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We'll have our five bowld predictions and
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