A Bloodline War Inches Even Closer & Sami Zayn Holds the Fate of the WWE Championship | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #853 – 6/18/26

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It's still really a big damage to me!

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What now?

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Oh!

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Oh!

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Welcome everybody!

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Welcome to this week's edition of the Sto Realta Show.

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Eps number 8503 for June 18th, 2026.

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Welcome to this week's edition of S.R.T.U.

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I am one after the show, I am Jeff Peck.

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I joined every single week for my host, the one who had done straight.

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Franklin, Dr. Trey, is there anything in the world of professional wrestling that could

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have been a little bit to what just happened in the NBA with my New York Knicks becoming

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NBA champions, my friend?

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Oh, bestie.

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We were talking about Mexican food and traveling and then you hit me with an NBA question to jump

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it off.

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Anything in the history of this David Arquette winning the WCW Championship?

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What are we longing for that?

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Well, you were longing for your Knicks to win a championship.

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You know, when it comes to the NBA, I am almost by default a Lakers fan.

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So the Knicks are not at the top of my wish list to win an NBA championship.

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But I was pulling for them because for some reason I am not a Wemba Yamma.

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I'm not a big fan of his yet.

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For some reason, when I see the Knicks, I see all those Villanova guys on the Knicks, like

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Brunson, Ellis guys, I was pulling for the Knicks.

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So maybe it's also because growing up, the Spike Lee, Michael Jordan commercials and Jordan

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basically just torching Spike Lee for a decade, maybe a Knicks fan in this series.

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So congratulations for your Knicks winning a championship.

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Once again, something that maybe we didn't think would happen in our lifetimes.

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But I just don't know, is there maybe Daniel Bryan winning the, is that something with the

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Miracle on Bourbon Street?

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I think the closest is maybe Kofi.

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Kofi won the championship 35.

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Russell Wayne in 35 because in the WWE for 10 plus years, never thought it would happen.

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The Knicks in the NBA for a long time, they did win a championship.

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Or like a cornerstone of the NBA for a long time, just because of where they're located.

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But like a laughing stock for nearly 15 years, win the championship.

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Never thought I'd see the day.

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To me, I think the closest thing maybe like Kofi?

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I'm just trying to compare in a sense of like, you know, you just said yourself, the Knicks,

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James Dolen kind of a laughing stock of the NBA throughout the early 2000s.

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For the last at least 20 years.

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Fair enough, I say.

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I don't know if there's something that we can look and go, he was kind of a laughing stock

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and then got on a hosier because Kofi, I don't think we ever considered him a laughing stock

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because the new day had such a great run.

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I just don't know if there's somebody that you can go look and go, man, I never thought

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this guy based on, it's all siglar based on where he started to cashing in at money in

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the bank.

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Maybe I just don't know if you can go from laughing stock to champion comparison type thing.

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Yeah, I shouldn't have said laughing.

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I mean, Knicks are laughing stock.

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Kofi by far is not.

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To me, it's just like something I never thought I'd say is kind of the comparison.

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Like I did feel like Daniel Bryan holding a champion chip at some point, a world championship

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and WWE seemed inevitable at one point, but even when Kofi was going through Kofi Mania,

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it never really felt like it could happen.

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And that's how it like, and Kofi was like on the rise.

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There was momentum.

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He was dominant.

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And that's what it's like.

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And I could equivalent to the Knicks run there.

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The Knicks were dominant in the NBA playoffs.

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I never thought I'd see the day that the Knicks would win a championship.

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I think Kofi Kingston was one of those guys where it's like you go through the list.

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It's like Kofi Kingston, do you think he'll get it?

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And well, he's been in the WWE for 10 plus years.

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If he had an opportunity, it's probably passed at this point.

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So I think that's the closest, but I really had to rack my brain.

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I usually really like comparing sports analogies to wrestling to tie it back all in so we don't

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bore the wrestling fans that listen to this podcast on art sports fans.

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But this one was pretty difficult, Dr. Trey, because it had been 53 years since the

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Knicks won an NBA championship.

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There's certainly nobody on the WWE AEW, D&A roster that hasn't won a championship in 53

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years.

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Hell, they'd be wrestling in the middle of the 70s.

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So it's like, I guess the closest comparison would be Kofi, I guess.

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>> Did you go Diamond Dows pay, starting off as a manager, then running through his iterations

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of the Diamond dolls and all that stuff, and then kind of being like a lower mid card guy

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for it.

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>> Yeah.

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>> It wasn't until he came up with a Diamond Cutter that he became a dominant person.

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And maybe that's a good comparison where you look at like, yeah, they were kind of laughing

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stocks.

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They bring in Jalen Bronson, they get on this streak and they dominate.

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So maybe Diamond Dows pay, starting to use the Diamond Cutter, elevating his career up

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to becoming a main event, level town, and then winning a World title.

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Again.

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>> But that might be the other option.

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>> I like that comparison.

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I think another comparison can be literally what will segue into our first topic here for

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this week's edition of the podcast is, and this person has not won a World Championship

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yet, but that is Sami Zayn.

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I think you can say, if the day comes, and I'm like 50/50 on this, I think Sami Zayn should

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get a run with a World Championship.

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But I don't know if it'll ever happen.

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He may be that Karl Malone, that Ken Griffey Jr., those guys that played sports that dominated

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the sport, Mike Trout, that never got an opportunity to win the big one, could be like Sami Zayn.

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If Sami Zayn is someone that finally wins the big one, wins a WWE Championship, a World

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Heavyweight Championship, I think that would be a guy that you and I have resonated with,

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that we've watched Russell back.

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He resembled this wrestler called El Generico in Ring of Honor and on the independency.

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And that could be maybe the closest comparison if Sami ever gets a doctor shirt.

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I feel like Sami could be the New York Knicks of wrestling right now.

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Yeah, it's curious in a sense of, we talked about the Daniel Bryan run briefly and you

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remember Stephanie and Triple H saying he's a B+ guy.

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And Sami, for all intents and purposes in a lot of ways, does fall into that B+ guy.

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If they do pull the trigger on it, fantastic, we love it because we love Sami Zayn.

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But he's that Kurt Henning of this generation that guy that you look at and you go, this guy

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should be a world champion at some point and then just never got it.

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I always think of like being a football guy, I always think of the Dan Marinos of the world.

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The guy's just dominates a sport but never has the whole team around him.

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Sami's guy who's like, and a little bit like I heard JBL mention this about Dolph Siggler.

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Just those guys that you can put in the ring with anybody to give people over and doesn't

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always need the wins and losses because he's just so organically good that you can just

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change his role and he'll make it work.

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Maybe Sami's in that Roddy Piper category.

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I don't, for all intents but I don't really count Roddy Piper winning the WCW championship

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in that time.

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But like Piper's running WWE, just super like always around the top of the car just never

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seems to have that breakthrough moment where he becomes a guy much like Kofi that you just

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mentioned.

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Like, super talented guy but it's going to take something to kind of catch fire for the

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office to kind of go, hey, that's our guy even in the short term.

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That's our guy.

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I just don't know.

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I don't know if this, I like the new gimmick but I don't know if he's, if it's enough to

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really catapult him over the top yet.

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So let's get into here because there's a lot going on with Sami's in right now.

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It's very, it's an intriguing and interesting storyline that's taking place on SmackDown right

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now where tomorrow, this Friday, whenever you're listening to this podcast, we will have Cody

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Rhodes versus Gunther for the Undisputed WWE Championship on SmackDown commercial free.

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And Sami Zayn is going to be the special guest referee.

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That was the special stipulation that Gunther selected for his match.

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We all know the history and background between Sami Zayn and Gunther.

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Zayn was the one that dethroned Gunther at WrestleMania to win the Intercontinental Championship

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after ending that historic reign.

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Sami has been this tweener character for several months where he's definitely leading

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a lot more into the healish persona.

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I love this whole like last real good guy thing that he's running right now.

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That's like really funny, entertaining, creative, which reminds me a lot of Sami.

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And Sami is one of those wrestlers that can be a baby face and be so beloved and enjoyable

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and entertaining and he could be a heal and he could be so beloved, enjoyable and entertaining

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all for the wrong reasons as he's doing like these healish tactics.

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I'm a huge fan of Sami Zayn obviously and I have loved this rise that he's had in WWE

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and I'm so happy that he's really been able to be the type of character that he's been

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in Roller's Entertainment.

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And this is like an old school storyline to me, Dr. Trey.

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It could be Bret Hart versus Undertaker at Summerslam 97 with Sean Michaels as a special

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guest referee.

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It could be similar to a triple threat where you've got Steve Austin, Triple H and Mankind.

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I think it's Summerslam 99 with Jesse Ventura as a special guest referee where Mick Foley

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walks out of Summerslam with the WWE Championship and Sami has been like that Mick Foley type character.

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Him being a special guest referee on Friday night is playing a huge role.

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I don't know.

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I feel like Cody is going to go to Summerslam as the Undisputed Championship which kind

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of blends a little bit into the King of the Ring discussion later on.

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I really think that Sami Zayn affects this match and I think we have a title change.

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I mean there's no way that Sami's in this match for no major storyline reason.

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So I'm really intrigued with this.

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What do you think his involvement is in this Undisputed Championship match and how do you

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think he impacts the outcome?

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By the way, you just remind Mick Foley winning the Championship is comparable to the next winning

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the title.

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Good one.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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It's a good problem to have right now if your WWE in a sense because you do have this newer

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version of Sami which is compelling which is very, in some ways the Summers have drew

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McIntyre a couple years ago.

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I'm actually the good guy in this situation and you guys just don't see it yet.

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It's a similar twist on that kind of character but it's a good problem to have because right

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now you and I, a few months ago, were saying where's Cody's Challengers coming from?

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All of a sudden now you got a great character in Sami Zayn, you got the Gunther issue, you

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have the King of the Ring stuff.

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It's a good problem to have.

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It is weird to go like I don't see them.

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Kind of like you like on one hand I don't see them going to Summerslam with Gunther as the

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champion unless somehow we get to Gunther Brock and that's the retirement match but it's

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a really good question to have that.

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And that's possibly what you do the title change and you Gunther Brock that's you know,

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Hamins cashing in the, you know, the favor is between Gunther from, you know, earlier

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this year is a match with Brock and then you do Cody and Sami as Summerslam but yeah

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it's, it's one of those things where like I try, like I'm almost dumbfounded, trying to figure

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out where the story goes with this because obviously you need a good Sami Cody feud out

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this because Cody's the reason why all these people have been turning against him.

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It's not like, it's one of those things where like if you break up with nine girls in a

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row, it's not you found nine crazy girlfriends.

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You are actually the problem and it's a good storyline to have where it's like hey, maybe

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it's not Cody, maybe or maybe it's not all these guys turning against Cody, it's who Cody

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is causing all these people to turn against him and then you can do Gunther with somebody

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else.

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So I still feel like Cody's going to Summerslam with the title.

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I just think that there's going to be something else that happens in this match that kind of

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lean into Sami blaming Cody for everything that's going on in his life right now and then

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Gunther ends up being kind of the victim by all this other stuff going on.

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So a lot of the next couple of topics here kind of intertwined with what's going on with both

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the World Avaluate Championship and the Indus BWE Championship, which is a good thing.

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Like I really feel like as I've said over the last several weeks that WWE is kind of finding

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it really good groove right now creatively that's making it very hard to predict what's

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going to happen at Summerslam and that's ultimately what we want as fans.

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We don't want to be sitting here on this podcast like laying out the groundwork for what

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is going to happen at Summerslam.

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We go lay out the groundwork that we think is going to happen with Summerslam and I want

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all these different types of roads and storylines, not you know, no pun intended literally here,

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to really drive the direction of where we think things are going.

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And one of those storylines along with this Sami Zayn, Cody, Gunther stuff right now that

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could be intertwined and at some point is the stuff with the bloodline.

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So you've got on SmackDown, Jacob Fattu delivers a message from Roman Reigns to Solosiko

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and we talked about this Civil War brewing.

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We've talked about it here over the last couple of weeks where it just feels like it's starting

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to bubble up and it's being executed really well done.

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It's not like these long interview or promo segments that are taking place on Raw on SmackDown.

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It's these vignettes backstage on SmackDown that are going for like three to five minutes

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and it's just like a seed drop here, a seed there.

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And then eventually it could expand and grow and it's getting fans like myself to go,

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what are the hell are they going with this thing?

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So Fattu confronts Solos on SmackDown, telling him that the OTC Roman Reigns wads him back

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in the fold.

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It's time to come home.

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Solos refuses and challenges Roman to come get him.

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And then on Raw, Roman Reigns officially anoints a line Jacob Fattu as part of the family

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and part of the bloodline on Raw by putting an ulefala on his neck and then Jacob Fattu

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beats a shit out of comedian actor Eric Andre in a segment that I guess is doing really

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nothing storyline wise.

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I guess it was a way to promote his show with Cena, which is odd because Cena is not going

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to come out and make the say.

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So what does this mean for Solos to go?

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What does this mean for the bloodline?

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What does this all mean for Fattu?

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Because Fattu was like this fan favorite, really felt like it if they wanted to pull the

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trigger and put the title on them, they certainly could.

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But what they're doing right now is they're basically like shifting his character where he

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was this lovable great catchphrase dominant Samoan werewolf into this killer Samoan werewolf.

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I thought Roman Reigns coming up to the apron, putting the arm out to say like he's a Kylo

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ran or Darth Vader and telling Jacob Fattu don't do this and then pausing a little bit

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and then just doing the execution, you know slice of the throat, symbol to him.

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I mean I've always compared this storyline to Star Wars Avengers, whatever your fandom

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is.

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It's like this classic empire type storyline that is very reminiscent of Star Wars ish and

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then Fattu lays it down.

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I mean it feels like Roman is molding Fattu into the type of person he wants him to be

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or finding that killer instinct meanwhile you've got this whole hey solo you need to come

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back here, we're thinking maybe potentially bloodline civil war or the eventual expansion

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of the bloodline even more.

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What is this what do you think of this message here of from Reigns to solo dr. Tre because

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they put it in forward with another gear and then the other part of this as Fattu offence

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officially aligning himself with the bloodline and being part of the family on raw.

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So you know we always talk about like there's nothing original and wrestling it's all kind

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of spins off of other things like it's once again as a kid growing up watching NWA watching

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the four horsemen it's reminiscent of when Lex Luger burst on the scene in the NWA and

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he was catching fire and then all of a sudden he turns and joins the horsemen.

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You know it's kind of like taking your biggest threat and pulling him back in the great

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thing with the bloodline story is that it is family it is blood and you're taking a guy

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like Jacob Fattu who just had two really great matches with Roman Reigns.

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Me look like a you know credible threat to the thrown in Roman and then he brings him into

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the fold to kind of mold him into you know kind of the soldier that they wanted to be but

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it also leads to a future breakout when Jacob breaks away so there's a little bit storyline

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So the solo stuff is interesting because you know we look at this run of Roman Reigns

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and he's like okay he's kind of a baby face and then but you know with the beat down

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of a comedian like Eric Andre the stuff that they're doing is kind of steel heelish and

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then if you're trying to bring a heel faction back into the fold well then that's kind of

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a heel thing but then when solos rebelling and he's a heel but by nature rebelling it's

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kind of baby face it does make an ishring and you and I sat here.

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God it's probably been a year you're in a half ago and solo kind of took on this role in the

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NFTs and we're like solo is super entertaining like he's so likable and he's so funny like

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maybe this is the way that the solo kind of goes baby face at some point and we kind of

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see what a solo seco a baby face run might look like because it's interesting because

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you don't only that but you know I'm a tiny little bit of the king of ring stuff in

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this well the j auso stuff where j comes out and says he's going to the king of ring and

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he's going after Cody well if he goes after Cody that's on Smackdown so it is kind of like

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hey are we going to have the super bloodline at some point where they're dominating both

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shows much like I said last week like how the NWO did with you know nitro and thunder

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back in the day.

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Yeah it's it's really cool what's what's being parlayed on television right now with

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the bloodline stuff because it's like all these different areas and character developments

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that is getting WWE back to that creative fold that made it so interesting in 2022 to 2024

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when triple H first got the books was making things very intriguing and interesting it's like

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the bloodline was reborn while everybody else was napping and the people that were responsible

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for killing it Cody Rhodes Seth wrongs LA night were doing their own thing and it's slowly

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getting stronger than it ever was and I think you know if you look back to that original

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bloodline you would never think that it could get any stronger but I mean there's a real

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possibility here in the next four to eight weeks that this is they're adding solosikoa

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tallatanga and tamatanga to to the bloodline to make it this super group and to the point

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that you just made there you know in regard to the king of the ring and we'll touch upon

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that in a second and again I think this is all very intertwined with what is going

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on because the way this storyline is going makes me really think about the execution and pulling

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the trigger of oboe femy as well I mean he's on the rise is this and that's always like

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the downside to when Romans around a lot that and even Cody I mean obviously Cody's there's

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all the time I mean this they're known to suppress stars that are on the rise like LA night

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is an example of that Kevin Owens is a clear example of that went during the Roman first

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run there at the bloodline when you have a historic world championship run while I love

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that historic championship run it was like oh man this did a little bit of a disservice

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to some other guys because this was their opportunity to really shine and break through

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and now that's like kind of a what if going back to like who are the New York nicks of

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professional wrestling maybe make a case that LA night is one of those guys that's like

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a New York nick where beloved could be on the rise but may never ever we may never think

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that he ever wins the big one the Jacob Fattu character development is really really interesting

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because the vibe I get and it's not going to happen immediately is that everything is

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being planted for Fattu to overtake Roman at some point as the tribal chief and and being

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the one that potentially gets that torch passed and I think at one time we thought that

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was so was a coa they didn't executed that because Roman was sell around and solo kind of found

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a character that was really entertaining and fun and and him more importantly solo was

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playing that like Jacob Fattu type role of this you know quiet badass but now he's extremely

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entertaining as like this mob boss for the MFTs shifting to the king of the ring here

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doctor try oba femy defeats Dominic mystery on raw and will now face the winner of javon

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Evans and j.u. so in the term final at night of champions I love javon Evans I don't think

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there's any way right now with everything going on that he defeats j.u. so on smackdown so

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I would believe that we see oba femy versus j.u. so at night of champions when we preview

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predicted on next week show for the king of the ring finals but maybe you feel differently

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how do you see at least heading into the finals on the men's side playing out before we

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talk about the men's final itself yeah I agree I think this is kind of like you know when

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javon was in the elimination chamber you're you're getting him a taste of the big time

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seeing how well he does but this is still you're you're setting up for summer slamming

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as much as we like javon Evans he's still not maybe on that level where you know he's

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not on the level like j.u. so against I mean see me javon Evans against Roman Ranger

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javon Evans against Cody Rhodes on paper does not scream summer slam match yet you can

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make the case that j and Cody or even j and Roman or oba and cova Cody and oba and Roman

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those both sound like summer slam type made of that matches so I'm with you I think it's

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going to set up for j and oba in the finals but I think javon gets a really strong showing

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and once again that can lead into some of the other stuff we've seen with you know people

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trying to recruit javon to join with their groups you know based on how this all plays

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out where it's like hey javon loss because j has family the javon has nobody you can always

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tie that into something else down the line as well so I'm fully expecting j and oba in

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the finals now the way this has been set up.

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It's an interesting layer with the javon stuff because we saw the vision try to recruit

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him on on raw this past money and he turned it down so oba family j.u. so we presume is going

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to be the night of champions king the ring final.

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This may drive fans crazy but I think that there's a 50% chance at oba wins and a 50% chance

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that j.u. so wins the j.u. so element I think and and correctly if you think differently

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here I think it's a very easy process here bloodline gets involved maybe brackets involved

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the night of champions cost oba family the match j.u. so becomes the king of the ring he challenges

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Cody Rhodes we presume Cody to have the championship at summer slam is that the clear cut easiest

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where do you see something creatively that could be done differently should j.u. so when

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no that to me is the easiest route because you can like you said you can get the bloodline

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involved and it keeps oba if j.u. so wins because Jimmy or j.u. or somebody gets involved

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that keeps it very simple because oba then still looks strong and you know you're still getting

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the results you want plus it if you get j.u. evolved it sets up for a j.u. up match which

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I think you and I would just gush over if we got an oba j.u. up match down the line as

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well.

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So then let's look at the oba side of things right so oba winning I've been saying this

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I think that this tournament should be used to catapult him but in recent weeks with

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this whole bloodline storyline like I think the only way if oba wins it the only way

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that is done right I mean oba has to challenge Roman reigns at summer slam and if he's

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challenging Roman reigns at summer slam I think the case could be made over the next

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five to six weeks is that plays out that this is a potential torch passing where oba becomes

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champion and Roman goes away for a little bit we go back to those those comments he made

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after rousal made it he was going to be around for the summer well summer slam would be

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the end of it and it would be the round for like four straight five straight months basically

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on a pretty consistent basis and then goes away for the fall we returns for summer or survivor

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series and the bloodline storyline kind of throttles up then but is there a world doctor

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tray where let's just say gone through wins on friday and oba wins the tournament and challenges

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gone through for the will have a way championship and to me I hope that doesn't happen because

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I think that would make oba look extremely weak but I could see wwe doing this going oh

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shit this whole bloodline thing is really going extremely well we want to put the title on

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oba oba versus gone through would be pretty interesting because I think fans want to see

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gone through get his ass kicked and that also gives us time to continue to let this bloodline

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storyline breathe where we don't have to do oba versus Roman right now yeah I don't want

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to see that by the way no yeah I mean can I see it happening yeah but I do think unless

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here's the only issue I have with that is if roman is going away for the summer I mean after

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summer for a couple months like how do you stretch this burgeoning bloodline storyline out

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to get all the way to survivor series if roman's not at least in some in some ways involved

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in the storyline I mean we've seen the past I mean you know roman can be champion and

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be off TV for a couple months and it's still decent TV I oba gunther I don't know right now

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like on paper like it would also make oba's character look weak in a sense like when you

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want to go after the tribal chief like if you're wanting to be that guy and you win king

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of the reign don't you want to go after the perceived top guy the like as much as we all

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know you know much as Cody's characters been perceived as top guy I think to a lot of fans

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he's still a notch Romans legacy is better than Cody's legacy so if I'm up and coming guy

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and I win king of the ring and I'm on the same show as roman reigns I want Roman reigns you

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know and not jump over to take on a gunther or even to degree even a Cody we've already

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seen you know oba and Cody at Saturday's made events so it's an interesting dynamic but

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I like once again I go I kind of go back to it's was it a Occam's razor sometimes the easiest

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answer is the correct answer where's like all right if the bloodline costs over the match

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and you get J and Cody or J even J and Gunther again at summer slam and revisit that story

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to kind of help flesh out this bloodline story kind of crossing both brands it does kind

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of make the most sense yeah I didn't consider the J Gunther stuff as a possibility as well

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so I mean it's it's great I mean there's gonna be a lot that comes out of the fall out from

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tomorrow night smack down with counter versus Cody there's a lot that's kind of riding on with

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this whole king the ring tournament and where things are going to summer slam what I love about

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it is there's a lot of different layers and there's probably things that were not even touching

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upon Dr. Terry we could do potentially an entire episode of like so what if this happens that happens

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because you know it could be oba versus Cody I mean maybe oba's like I want to revenge that

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loss or that match you know we didn't find out who the true winner was at that Saturday night's

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main event for John Cena's last match a several months ago like I want to avenge that loss and that's

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the way I go you know I think for me I've always felt that oba versus Roman at summer slam is on

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the card and I feel like Brock versus Gunther's on the card but I do feel like oba versus Brock is

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happening one more time and maybe that happens again the closest thing I could think of it was

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it got to be night of champions maybe it happens at Saturday nights main event in Madison Square

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Garden where Brock gets one last match in MSG like I think Lesnar's in ring career is coming coming

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to an end and a lot of that has been kind of reported on in the last year that and he's kind of alluded

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to it in a couple of interviews the rare interviews that he does it like this was this was kind of the

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swan song of it all so lots of cool things peeling out there when it comes to the king of the ring

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the Sammy Zane involvement with Cody Rhodes and Gunther because I think you could make a case that

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Cody versus Gunther versus Sammy would be a great triple threat main event match at an upcoming

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Saturday and it's main event or a summer slam as well the bloodline civil war with Fatu telling

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solo to come back home like that's only got to pick up some more I would imagine that there's

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another segment on Smackdown to keep that boat going then you've got everything with how this

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plays out with King the ring and WWE has some really good stuff boiling up right now and it's a lot of

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good stuff that's up in the air it's just a matter of execution and WWE delivering on some entertainment

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here for the fans watching at home the Queen of the Rings side doctor tree we had Eos guy defeating

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Raquel Rodriguez on raw she will face the winner of live Morgan and Charle Flare in the tournament

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final at night of champions live in Charlotte battling and out I believe on Smackdown this Friday

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I've always felt that this is Eos guys tournament to lose I think that there's a report out there

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that Charlotte versus Rhea was not on the card for for summer slam excuse me Rhea Ripley is

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dealing with a legitimate knee injury that she suffered either at Clash in Italy or like one of

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those shows either Smackdown a Raw around the Italy shows hopefully she is fine and can get back

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to wrestling how do you see the Queen of the Ring playing out doctor I I stay true that I think

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that this is Eos guys to win this she makes the most sense to me yeah I'm kind of with you like we

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talked about coming from like I you brought that up and I was like man it's gonna be interesting to see

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how we get to that you know especially if Charlotte has that knee injury I can see Jade actually

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costing Charlotte the match with live Morgan to set up Eo and live in the finals to then have Eo

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beat live in the finals to then set up you know her challenging live for the championship so

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that's kind of like my thousand foot view on it because I was like I was telling some of

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their days like I kind of feel like either Roxanne or Raquel is going to cost live a match at some

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point to then set up one of the girls leaving the judgment day as well and I just it's weird because

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I can see both Roxanne and Raquel being kind of breakout baby faces especially Roxanne with her

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just being so undersized and looking like an underdog but it could be very reminiscent of hey Sean

420
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Michaels and diesel breaking up if Raquel becomes the baby face and breaks away from live but I'm

421
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I'm kind of like with you now where I'm like yeah I'm definitely leaning Eo just with somebody

422
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costing Charlotte her match and then setting up Eo and live in the finals let's switch gears

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switch promotions here to AW Savegout the Owen Hart Foundation tournament taking place some

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updates on the women's side Mercedes-Bone Davided Hazzuki in a great match on Wednesdays dynamite

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she will face the winner of Athena and Maya World in the tournament final for Ben and Door

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I believe Athena Maya World will be taking taking on one another this Saturday on collision

427
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Mercedes-Bone Athena seems to be the tournament final for me Dr. Trey

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again I see this as being like a redemption arc a rebuilding arc from Mercedes-Bone to win it

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and I find that result to be a little lame and not something that I want to see but I don't know

430
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with only three women left in the tournament legitimately it really doesn't seem to be unless

431
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they want to go the Athena route somebody that I'm like really dying to see the women's side of

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the Owen Hart Foundation tournament yeah I'm kind of with you I it feels like it's in you earlier

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you made a comment like J.O. it was like 50/50 it feels like 80/20 for me that like Mercedes is

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going to win the tournament like like on this you know back from the abyss or back from her vacation

435
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:42,160
or have you want to phrase it to win the tournament but I also look at just kind of like not that there's

436
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a lack of talent in the women's division a w but there's been a kind of a lack of

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top people with you know Mercedes being off Tony Storm being off you know statlanders kind of on

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her thing willows out right now there's no Brit Baker you know it's it's kind of like maybe moving

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Athena to in there who we've seen grow so much over the last couple of years in a w with her run

440
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in ring of honor we're like hey she's a great interview she's a great character maybe we should

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feature her more in a w and that can kind of even though she's been there for like three or four years

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it's like it's kind of a new fresh face face on the horizon if they went that route but like I said

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it to me it does feel like 80% that Mercedes Monae is going to win this tournament to set up her

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in Thackla at some point but it would be really nice to kind of go hey Athena's been a great soldier

445
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worker employee for us for the last four years maybe we should shine a light on her coming out of this

446
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:51,040
well I think the thing that kind of pigeonholed a w with the creative booking of the Owen Hart

447
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Foundation tournament is they had a lot of female stars that were from different promotions like

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a zuki from stardom uh peress percissopie from cml like you didn't need that many in there

449
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quite honestly like there are plenty of women that are a w stars that could have just been as

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equally as important like on the men's side it was all a w guys on the female side you had a couple

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of the from the outside companies for forbidden door it sprinkled in there and it's like why would a w

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want to promote you know any of those stars they should be using this as a catapult for their company

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and yeah I feel like the women's tournament was not booked creatively very well while the men's

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tournament has so obviously we know the final we talked about it length on last week show will

455
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us brainstorm stricklin at forbidden door this is a main event level match this is a world championship

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title match this is like a match that could headline all in london tomorrow between these two guys

457
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they had their face to face segment on dynamite to hyper forbid indoor match I thought it was a great

458
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segment great back it for a little bit more humanizing for swarves stricklin as they went back and

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discussed the storyline from the past year were those two guys were working together to take on the

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young bucks and that they both agreed that it was hangman pages time like there was I wish there was

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a lot more of that and like vignettes and packages right now to really hyped that up but they did a

462
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good job touching upon that during the face to face however dr. tre I just still feel like it's

463
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inevitable for will osprey to win this tournament it's london his storyline with the the death riders

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is really good do you see uh do you see that 50 50 split of an oba feme jayu so that we talked about

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not too long ago do you see a closer split here than maybe I see because I just I just see this being

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will us for a honestly yeah I'm with you it's me as much more the mercenaries monea fena thing for

467
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me was like 80 20 and in part of it also was the the promo mjf cut where he's with don calis and

468
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get the entire don calis family behind them and he even mentioned will osprey he's like everybody

469
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,560
feels like it's inevitable that it's going to be you and me when we say when you're going to come

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out on top and I'm like that it's that that's not so much foreshadowing that's just acknowledging the

471
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elephant in the room that it does we I mean but we've talked about for a couple years then like at

472
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some point osprey has to win the championship in london and for you know in wembley stadium and

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last year I don't last year we didn't do we did we did Texas for all in which kind of threw a

474
00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:25,040
monkey wrench into that plan so hey we're back in wembley stadium it does make a ton of sense on pay

475
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:31,920
able to have at least mjf and osprey be your main event inside wembley stadium so yeah I'm

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leaning much more the 80 20 split than I am the 50 50 night of champions forbidden door we will

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preview and predict it on next week's edition of srt you will also take a look at great american

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bash as next weekend is a fully loaded weekend for professional wrestling with three major soves

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two from w_e_1 from a_e_w_o_ so we'll cover that all on next week's edition of the podcast

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last thing I want to bring up here on this week's edition of srt you dr. tre is

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almost about a year ago around this time you and I were extremely high on total nonstop action

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wrestling t_n_a wrestling we felt that there was a resurgence there was like this rebirth

483
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for bound for glory there was this rebirth with our a_m_c_ tv deal and here we are six to nine

484
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months later and it's completely gone 180 and it's going in a really really bad direction that I think

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is is concerning so in the last several weeks several things have happened here so yesterday

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Tommy dreamer who was a top name in creative announced that he had departed t_n_a wrestling

487
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tessa blanchored steve macklin and my leg race have all departed

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sammy cahillahan who was working as a producer was let go he announced that on wednesday

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p_w_n_s_ i reported on thursday morning that there were a number of people in the production

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00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:57,200
circles at t_n_a who were cut attendance for the shows when you look at photos when you look at

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the show itself is considerably low if this was a w dr. tre and i would be like bashing them to

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no health this was debatably would be bashing them to no hell i mean it is really really considerably

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low and bad the amount of tendons that they have for the shows the a_m_c_ tv deal has not really helped

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much i watched the very first episode on a_m_c_ tv to kind of give it a new fresh look and and see

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i've been very happy with the stuff that they were doing in w_e_ and would like see a lot of the

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social media clips i watched that episode thought it was god awful we've talked about it here on the

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podcast kind of damaged them from trying to regain some of that viewership and then more importantly

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and i was thinking about this this past Tuesday as i was watching n_x_t_ and i had this speed tournament

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it was filled with a lot of people from n_x_t and evolve and nobody from t_n_a and it's been a long time

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since we've seen somebody from t_n_a i feel like appear on w_e_ television on n_x_t which

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makes a question like whatever happened to that w_e_t_n_a partnership because t_n_a could really use

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some of that help from debuwe right now dr. tre you have been and and always will be on this podcast the

503
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forever t_n_a guy i feel like from an outsider looking in that that resurgence that hype that momentum

504
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has completely stalled how do you feel as a t_n_a fan do you feel the same way has that resurgence

505
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:22,320
stalled for t_n_a in the last six and nine months yeah it totally has it and i haven't watched it as

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much recently as i did when it first got an amp c_n_ part is also is like it's kind of in the same

507
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thing we said about t_n_a for years like you need that guy to kind of break out and kind of become

508
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:39,600
musty television and they had it for a while with joe hendry um... you know they had it when the

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hardies came back to t_n_a they had it when nick nemith came to t_n_a and you're like okay i

510
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:49,200
gotta check this out you know the hardies are still there that they're feud with the righteous is

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to me the best thing on t_n_a to kind of check out because i'm a huge fan of both the hardies and the

512
00:40:55,040 --> 00:41:00,560
righteous um... but you know right now like you look at the talent level and you're like okay well

513
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,560
they have mike santa and i have that everybody's going yet he's leaving for w_t_a_ at the end of the

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00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:10,640
summer uh... leon slater hasn't been on tv since he lost the uh... the exhibition title the cedric

515
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:17,200
Alexander uh... but there's been really nobody to kind of step up and say hey this is my chance to

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00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:23,280
really stand out and make a name for myself even bde that everybody was hyping up has kind of

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00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:29,520
been a little flat lately so it just it to me it screams that there's really is no

518
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:37,360
creative direction for where they want the show to go i mean we're getting uh... nemith and santa

519
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at slam aversary i believe it is wish to me this is kind of what a w used to do with john moxley like

520
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:48,800
oh crap uh... our champion is injured or champion is leaving will put mox up there to kind of fill in

521
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:55,440
the gap until we find the next guy i kind of feel like nemith's that guy for t_n_a_ but right now it's

522
00:41:55,440 --> 00:42:01,360
it's just flat across the board you know and then losing you know the people that you mentioned

523
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:07,360
um... you know plus losing you know if you lose for health or all in terms of purposes we all believe

524
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:13,200
leon slater is going to w_w_ in his contracts up like the only person from n_x_y that you see on t

525
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:19,680
n_a_ television regularly is stacks in are on a grace and that's mainly because of the crossover

526
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:26,880
santae no but outside of that there really hasn't been much excitement on the t_n_a_ brand since really

527
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:33,280
making them move to a mc so it is kind of just like i like i only hope that with all these guys

528
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:37,360
and creative leaving that maybe like there's rumors out there that road dog might be one of those

529
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:42,000
guys they bring in if that's the case hey that might be a win for t_n_a_ but right now

530
00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:47,520
like they're in there in us there in a dance b swanson slumps are cover up for us he's

531
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:53,280
getting one seventy he's hitting one seventy five on the season for us but like yeah it's just like

532
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:57,520
they're in a slump and they're just swinging at pitches way outside the zone try to see if they

533
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:03,680
can make any kind of contact yeah it sucks um rest in fans even though i don't watch t_n_a_ on the

534
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:08,160
regular um... they should be cheering on for t_n_a right i mean it gives more guys and girls jobs

535
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:12,400
it gives people the opportunity to really showcase their skills and really climb the charts

536
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:18,880
in professional wrestling like i would have never known who leon slater was if it wasn't for w_e

537
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:25,120
you know there's a lot of rumblings right now uh... that leon slater is both on the map that he's

538
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:29,520
being targeted by w_e which we all felt like i mean he was on that scene a show and then there's

539
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:34,960
also rumblings that he could be a w bound that's why he's not being featured on t_n_a_ or w_e right now

540
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:39,200
it feels like mike santa and it's going to w_e at some point when he eventually drops the t_n_a world

541
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:44,560
championship um... it's just it's a bummer to see this happening because i felt like they were finally

542
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:50,880
on the upswing and they were in the in the good graces of um... wrestling fans based on the things they

543
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:55,600
had been doing the last several years so they made a lot of moves that were i don't know if it was

544
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,680
performance i don't know if it was financial i don't know if they just felt like they needed to hear

545
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:05,280
different voices in there but it's definitely concerning and the resurgence does feel like it's

546
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:10,080
stalled right now and will see how they steer the ships because um... they're falling behind i mean

547
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:15,680
you and i were talking about on the show not too long ago like was t_n_a threatening a w is the number

548
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:21,120
two wrestling promotion united states and we were like yeah i mean they're they're knocking on that

549
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:27,680
door but there is no chance now at that happening this year because a w has had such a consider

550
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:34,960
a w was closer to w_e in the gaps than they are with t_n_a right now like a w has been absolutely

551
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:40,800
phenomenal for i would say the last eight to ten months they've been great um... they've been really

552
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:45,600
fun to watch they found back their footing they found back what the fans enjoyed and they have been

553
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:51,360
so much fun like everything they do has meaning both creatively and in ring wise for the most part

554
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:57,120
and now they've basically i feel like them being so good has forced the w_e to be good again

555
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:02,560
because when a w was doing so poorly w we took the foot off the gas um... and that's what we don't

556
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,640
want we want all the wrestling promotions to be fantastic because when they're all when they're

557
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:11,440
fan when once really fantastic they're pushing the others to be better we saw this in the late 90s

558
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:19,200
we saw it in them in the early mid 2020s and that's what we want to see again so you should be

559
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,600
rooting on t_n_a uh... but it does feel like the research at least for now has stalled and we'll see

560
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:28,240
with all these moves that they've made so far uh... how they turn it around here for the rest of

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twenty-six uh... with that said dr. trai let's get a couple plugs and sponsors are the way you

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podcast with that being said what is going on the wonderful world of dr. trai franklin this week

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well like jiff said you can follow me on x at the dr. trai you can find me on instagram and facebook

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dr. trai franklin uh... by the way jiff in my travels this week i drove through two towns named franklin

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wow apparently okay yeah it's my my my uh... my reputation has caused two cities to rename themselves

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next week to preview and predict annexi great american bash w_e_ night of champions and a w four bit

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next week for dr. trai franklin i am jiff peck this has been the still release show