Oct. 6, 2023
Adam "Edge" Copeland is All Elite! | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #712 – 10/5/23
On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:
- -- We recap NXT No Mercy!
- -- We recap AEW WrestleDream!
- -- Adam "Edge" Copeland is All Elite and we look at why he joined AEW!
- -- And we preview WWE FastLane!
On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:
- -- We recap NXT No Mercy!
- -- We recap AEW WrestleDream!
- -- Adam "Edge" Copeland is All Elite and we look at why he joined AEW!
- -- And we preview WWE FastLane!
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It's still welcome everybody. Welcome to
this week's listen at Real No Show EPISOD
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number seven hundred and twelve, October
fifth, twenty twenty three. This is
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your NXT No Mercy and a W. Russell Heuri in precap and Review edition
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plus w WE pay Back pret Human
Predictions edition of ask uh to You?
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I am one after Shell, I
am Jeff back joined every single week with
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my past, the one only Doctor
Trey Franklin. Doctor Trey. Do you
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think you know him? I mean, there's the guy in NXT that calls
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himself him or talk about him,
or he's some mother him. Do you
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think you know him him? Uh? Well, I've been to church,
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But do you do you think you
know him? I mean, do you
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ever really know him? Stay tuned, folks, universal question, Stay tuned.
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Welcome to this week's edition of sr
TU lots to discuss Doctor Trey.
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Let's start it off with NXT No
Mercy recap in review was this past Saturday
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from the Mechanics Bank Arena in Bakersfield, California. Uh the pre show match
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here at Blair Davenport defeating Colonnie Jordan. We did not predict this one.
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Colonie Jordan looked good. Blair continues
the uh the storyline with Gigi Dolan.
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They carried over to Tuesday's an XCTV. Anything to say here about the pre
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show match. I didn't know who
Colonie Jordan was so good performance from subody
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to who was? But oh I
thought it was. It was an okay
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endeavor. Uh. Nothing really outside
of the continuing storyline with Blair and gg
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nothing really. It's right Homan out
about I do say, I do not
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like the name Klan because you had
a C to the end of her name.
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It's kind of gross. Yeah,
no, true, yes it is.
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It all sounds like a drink.
Hey, she's very impressive. She's
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in the Breakout Tournament. I'm a
fan of Klonnie Jordan. If you've not
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had a chance to check her out
in the ring, there is a lot
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of upside there. Onto the main
show, Baron Corben defeats braun Breaker.
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We both had broun Breaker again the
victory. This is a good physical match.
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Braun Breaker is definitely getting better in
the ring, and I liked how
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they have been booking braun as someone
who could come back for being slammed on
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a car or throw an announced table. The interference of mister Stelle makes sense.
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It helped cost Breaker the loss,
which didn't affect Braun's character negativity at
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all, and Baron Corman got a
nice win. Your thoughts here, Corbyn
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defeats Breaker. It reminds me a
little bit when Goldberg was a heel for
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that little bit time, and not
in a bad way. Just even in
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a loss, he can still look
like a legitimate monster slash badass. So
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it's good for Braun. It's good
for Baron to get a win kind of,
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you know, at least give him
a shot when people see him in
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a match, like, give him
a little bit of credibility that he actually
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wins something. So I thought it
was pretty good for both guys, and
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once again tied into tight end with
the von Wagner stuff. So I'm also
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still confused. I don't know who's
supposed to be rooting for in all these
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fair it is, yeah, two
heels, And I felt the same way
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on Tuesday's NXT when Baron Klebern was
still acting like a jackass, as was
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bron Breaker. It's like, how
do the fans cheer on a heel versus
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heel? Match, and Vaughn is
also a heel, so there's a street
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heel. He's been more of a
babyface lately, he has been. He's
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been accepting the fan base with his
with his storyline, with his medical condition
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upbringing, but he's been more of
the babyface. I hope Braun and Vaughn
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become a tag team at some point, just because the rhyming of it would
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be so much fun. Yeah,
that would be cool. It would be
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like an eighties or early nineties tag
team. Trick Williams defeats Dirty Domsteria to
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win the NX North American champion with
a Dirty Dom getting the victory. Surprising
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result of Dirty Dom dropping NX North
American Championship to Trick Williams, who was
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originally not supposed to be in this
match, but the change was made after
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Mustafa Ali the original opponent match was
shocking the release. I was happy for
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Trick, who had some good momentum
as of late and his in ring competitiveness
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has really improved. However, as
we learned, he dropped the championship on
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Tuesdays NXC to Dirty Dom. Your
thoughts on the NXC No Mercy match as
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well as the matter took place on
Tuesdays NXC Doctor Try. I was happy
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for Trick, but I don't like
the hot shotting of the title. It's
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almost like they they did it just
to give him a little bit of credibility,
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because really, for the majority of
his running XST Trick has not looked
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great. And it gave a little
credence to the reports that they were making
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Rea the official leader of Judgment Day. So you know, I was happy
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for me that regard, but then
it's around and take the belt right back
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off. I almost feel like this
is just they were like, hey,
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we had Mustafa book to win,
so let's go with that and then we'll
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just figure it out after this.
It was a good match and really enjoyable.
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It was, and I popped really
hard for a way to when Trick
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won. But to turn around to
take the belt right back off them,
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I thought was kind of U was
kind of low. Yeah, it was
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interesting and interesting and peculiar move by
by NX Creative. It makes you think
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if there if this adds to the
Carmelo Trick storyline. I don't know.
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It's strange if they're concerned about ratings
with Tuesday's aw NXC head to head.
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I don't know. Strange move there. The D'Angelo family defeats OTM, the
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Creed Brothers in Amberta Career, and
Angel Guards in a fatal four way match
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to retain the NXC Tag Team Championship. We both had the di Angelo family
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winning a good fatal four way match. Not sure I feel about the injury
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angle from Tony d though the finish
also came out of nowhere, as there
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was little bill or acknowledgment of their
finisher for the win. The d' angelo
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family retains Doctor Trey. Yeah,
I thought it was okay, but you
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know, like you rustling points there, I'm still trying to figure out what
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out the mud means. Were they
pigs in a past life? I don't.
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I don't really get it, but
I'm sure at some point they'll do
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it. Vig Yet explained a little
bit more. But uh, I saw
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those guys, they're they're big dudes, Like they're way bigger than I thought
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they were. So, you know, it just kind of led some more
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depth to the tag ting division.
But seeing the di' angelo family come out
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on top just give them a little
more credibility as well. So I thought
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it was Okay, just the finish
was odd. That injury angle. We've
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been there, kind of done that. I hope it's I hope it's not
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legit because I like Tony D.
But you know, if it is storyline,
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why because Tony D has been in
jail and injured and everything else.
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Like it is two years at NXC. Next match is no Am Dar defeating
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Butch to retaining NXC Heritage Cup.
We both at Butcherkin and the victory.
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I like the concept of the Heritage
Cup and the British rounds rule matches,
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but I'm not sure how it's playing
out in front of the live crowd.
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The last several times they've done these
matches, it's been met with the response.
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With that said, this match was
good to know. I'm Dar has
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been fantastic. So it's coming back
to NXC and the United States earlier that
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year. Obviously, we we got
to see Butch stick around a little bit
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longer as he and Tyler Bait did
take on Gallas on Tuesday's NXT, who
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interfered in this match. No Mdar
retains the NX Heritage Cup. Doctor try.
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Yeah. It reminds me of when
Impact had their their their Championship there
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there was that that weird title they
had kind yeah talking about they had judges
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and everything. Yeah, and you
would have like Lastly and McIntyre in a
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match and the crowd just be like, we don't know what's going on,
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and you and I talked about this
back way x UK was going on that
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although the in ring work is fantastic, it is kind of a scoring mentality
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as well. It's just kind of
like it's just, you know, it's
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hard to have a consistent match when
you have breaks. It's weird. It's
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it's hard to build up that anxiety
over what's going to happen next. So
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it's I think the I think every
time there's a pinfall or that, the
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crowd loses a little bit of interest
in a way. So it's a just
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of your I know, friends of
mine from the UK loved the concept because
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it's very very old school and traditional
and they're in their realm. But for
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Americans, we typically don't like adjustments
unless you're gonna give us some more crashes
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basically, So uh, it's just
it's I think people just have to get
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used to it, because I mean, really the titles liman feature on NXC
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television on the in the States now
for about nine months, so it's not
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even a year old in the eyes
of the w B famous next match here
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is Elily dragon Off defeating Carmelo Hayes
to win the NXC Championsip Eyed Elia Doctor
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Trade Carmelo. Great physical match.
I thought this was the right move because
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Ely is a main event player in
NXT and could not afford another loss for
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the title. It also adds to
Carmelo and not being able to win without
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Trick and leave Bakersfield without the championship
while Trick had a title of his own
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previously. I would love to see
Carmelo Elia three happen in the near future,
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and the rivalry slast matches reminds me
of the Black and Gold era of
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NXC. Really enjoyable match here,
Doctor Trey Eliot Dragonoff is your new NXC
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champion. Ilia Dragonov is so polarizing
to me because I love Ilia Dragonov.
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But in my head I'm like,
it's great for Este, but then is
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he a main car main event guy? I mean he is like one hundred
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and eighty pounds. He's like the
Russian Darby Allen in a lot of ways.
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So uh the match himself, that
was fantastic. I really enjoyed it.
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I love, like I said,
I love watching Ilia wrestle because everything
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he does has intensity and purpose.
Carmelo's just so smooth. There's a nice
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contract contrast and styles and if they
have matched three, I'm all for it.
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I just long term, does Ilia
like to me, the NXT nx
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T should be helping build your main
event stars, like the NFC Championship should
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be a priest cursor to being a
main event star on Raw or SmackDown.
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And I don't know if Ilia is
a main event kind of guy for Raw
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or SmackDown. Yeah, I don't
know either. I have been an Ilia
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fan for some time and I thought
this was the right move, and they're
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given the opportunity with the ball to
run with it. So he's the new
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NXC champ. We will see where
things go from here with the Mad Dragon
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of NXT. Then the main event
here, Becky Lynch defeats Tiffany Stratton in
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an extreme rules match to retain the
NXC Women's Championship. I had Becky Lynch
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Doctor Trey at Tiffany Stratton a good
match. Stratton continues to take big leaps
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forward in her inring abilities. I
would have liked to see some more physicality,
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violence, toughness from Tiffany Stratton,
like a llah Randy Orton from his
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match with Cactus Jack back in two
thousand and three two thousand and four Backlash
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when he was breaking out, but
it was still a solid performance. Becky
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is really helping Tiffany elevate her game, and Tiffany is delivering great match Doctor
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Trey Becky Lynch wins. Yeah.
Sometimes I watch these matches and you go,
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wait, she hasn't been great against
other people. Now she's wrestling like
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a legitimate main event star. Is
she getting better or is the star carrier
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this one? I actually went,
oh, she's actually getting better, so
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she's actually stepping her game up.
I am still a little bit confused about
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the result, Like, what's the
upside of keeping Becky as NFT champion unless
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he was trying to help her,
unless she's just trying to help build everybody
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up and being But if she's still
on the road with Raw, it's not
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like she gets the AEW or Impact
schedule where she gets to kind of just
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stay home after the shows. To
me, this is also like let's say
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we're like, Okay, Tiffany needs
back up. You know, Tiffany needs
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some you know, some some stooges, so to speak, and in her
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ranks, because when you have a
match like this, this is the perfect
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opportunity for the heel to get the
win and not damage a babyface. And
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they didn't pull the trigger, So
good work by the ladies. Just a
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little confused by the booking results because
this was the chance to kind of take
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the belts off of Becky, put
it back on Tiffany, and give Tiffany
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legitimacy by saying, Hey, I'm
the one who beat Becky Lynch, which
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nobody else on that roster could say. Addiction record, I went three and
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three, Doctor Trade, one and
five. Coming out of this pay per
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view, I was nineteen thirty five
Doctor Trey eighty five and forty event rating
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and match of the night. I
gave NXC no Mercy a solid three point
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six. My match of the night
was Carmela Hayes and Eely dragonoff Doctor Treyer.
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What say you yeah? How was
there a three point four? I
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thought it was a solid show.
Still, like just you know, the
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Tony d thing was weird. I'm
so a little confused by the trick Williams
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win. It was just kind of
like it was an odd booking show for
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me. So maybe that's why I'm
a little bit more down on it.
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But my match of the night was
Ilia and Carmelo. Just those guys have
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great chemistry. It's kind of watching
Drago and Apollo Creed fight, just without
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the death. I like that.
That's a good comparison. It's a really
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good rivalry and they have really good
matches. And again, like I said
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earlier on, it reminds me a
lot of that black and Gold era of
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NXT where you want to see more
from these two. Yeah, next night,
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aw Russell Dream Recap review Past Sunday
from the Climate Pledge Arena in Seattle,
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Washing. There was one, two, three, four pre show zero
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hour matches that we did not preview. Originally we did not predict either,
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So I'll just quickly mention them here, Doctor Trey, and if there's any
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that stood out to you that you
want to cover, when I get done
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quickly recapping the results, we can
talk about it because I have maybe one
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or two matches i'd bring up here. Sotoshi Kaji McKeith Lee Athena and Billy
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Starks defeated Shane Taylor, Lee Mariotti, Mercedes Martinez and Diamante. In an
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eight person tag team match, Claudieu
Casignoli defeated Josh Barnett, Lucasaurus defeated Nick
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Wayne and the Acclaimed, and Billy
Gunn defeated Shane Hast, Mikey Nichols and
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Bad Due Tito of the Mighty O'Neil
TMDK to retain the aw World Trios Championship.
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Any of those pre show matches you
wanted to bring up here and discuss
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anything that stood out to you,
Doctor Try all right, an eight person
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interjender match is god awful. Don't
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flow, It just doesn't flow.
The six man's hag. I really enjoyed
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that match. I forgot how entertaining
Shane Thorne or Shane which is yes,
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I just forget how entertaining he was, Like, yeah, he can be
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kind of charismatic and and goofy at
times. And I forgot how good TMDK
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is when they're attacked. Me adding
big bad dude Teeter that makes it was
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really cool. I haven't seen them
in such a I mean, god,
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this is what the early days of
Black and Gold when they were a tag
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teams and see them together at wrestled
Dream was pretty cool. And then the
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Lucasaurs Nick Wayne stuff is pretty interesting
giving how the ending of the show went.
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So those are the kind of things
that might takeaways. Yeah, I
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guess the one match that you did
not cover there in your little recap is
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I thought Claudia cast and only Josh
Barnett was an extremely fun chain wrestling match.
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I would go out of your way. If you haven't, go out
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of your way and watch that one. If you enjoyed chain wrestling, check
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how Claudia and Josh Barnett. But
the pre show matches, it's it's now
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an hour and a half pre show
for aw show. I mean it's it's
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basically a dynamite it's taking place nowadays
where you have like that many matches taking
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place before the show. Crazy thing
for me was I had never seen Josh
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Barnett wrestle. Yeah, I hadn't
either, and I enjoyed it. Yeah,
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And I had heard he was really
good, and then you got Moxley
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on commentary putting him over and everything
else. Like I thought that was actually
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the most enjoyable match on the pre
show. It's just one of these was
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like, it was just a really
good wrestling match, and with all the
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other things going on, it just
you just kind of go, oh,
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yeah, it was a really good
match. Just that one was weird.
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This thing was weird, and this
was weird. But that was a really
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good match. Yeah, I agree, that was a really good match on
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main card. Here, MJF representing
better than You Bebey defeats the Righteous Vincent
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and Dutch to retain the ROH World
Tag Team Championship in a two to one
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one handicap match. We both had
better than you beabey A getting the victory
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entertaining match. I hate to see
this loss come at the expense of an
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actual tag team with high upside and
the Righteous, but I feel like this
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payoff for the whole current MGF storyline
will be worth it. I do find
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salce and knowing that Ossie Open loss
last month at all and got rewarded a
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month later with an aw tag team
champion match later in that same night,
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entertaining match doc to trace MJFF wins
retains. Yeah, it was entertaining for
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the shenanigans in the match, like
the matchic stuff. I'm like, I
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mean really there were points in the
match where MJF Wight It's at John Cena
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mode. It was like super MJF. Maybe since I was I'm just a
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big fan of Dutch and Vincent in
the Righteous. I just think those guys
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are are really talented guys. I
just hate seeing a legitimate tag team lose
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in a two on one handicap match. And then just you know, I
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don't know, the body slam bit
the head of the ass thing was kind
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of funny, but it's just I
don't know, I would have wanted to
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finish, to be even more sneaky, like have him escape and he actually
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kind of I don't say, one
clean, but one decisively. So that's
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maybe that's my only thing. Because
especially I love MJF. He is only
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like five foot eight, so it's
just like he's a little guy doing Super
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Senior, which is a little weird
to me. Yeah, it was.
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It's it's sports entertaining, right,
Yeah, yeah, it was entertaining,
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but on a like you know,
the aw preaches like on how their high
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quality of matches, but then they'll
have the entertainment aspect too. It's like,
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Okay, are you wrestling or are
you entertainment because MJF is entertainment and
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then the rest of the show is
kind of wrestling. So I think there's
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a good I think there could be
a good mix of that. To be
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honest, I thought this was a
good way to open up the show with
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what they're doing. I just don't
like seeing at the hands of an actual
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tag team. Yeah, they don't
portray themselves as an entertainment company. They
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portray themselves as a wrestling company.
So that's the dichotomy with it is like,
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Okay, jf's entertainment. It's funny
because your top stars either entertaining guys
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or guys that came from the wrestling
entertainment company. Well, you can make
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case they began with entertainment, ended
with entertainment. There you go. Next
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match here, Eddie Kingston defeats Kati
Orshabauta to retain the ROH World Championship and
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njp W Strong open Weight Championship.
We both had Eddie Kingks again the victory
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solid Japanese style match fun watch between
Kanks and Shabbata great win. Telpailled Eddie
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as the ROH World Champion. Kingston
retains Actor Trey Yeah, and on was
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the end. I had not seen
Shebata other than on tape of seeing Sabata
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in the ring. I know he's
wrestling aw That's why he's a pure champion
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everything. I just somehow always missed
him. Very various any match, very
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very hard hitting match. And it
was also kid of the launch of how
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many abdominal stretch octopus holds can we
get in one card in one night.
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The next match is Chris Statlander defeating
Julia Hart to retain the AWTBS Championship.
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We both had stat Lard again the
victory. Stat Lander and Hart put on
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a great match. I said last
week when we were previewing this, how
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much Julia Hart has improved in the
ring, and it shows as I feel
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like she is breaking out right now. Julia Hart may also have the best
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top rope moonsalt in all of wrestling. Fun match here, Doctor Trey Statler
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Lander retains. Yeah. I watched
this match, and I don't know if
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I do. I compare young wrestlers
to other wrestlers, and Julia Hart I
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compared to Alexa Bliss because of the
gymnastics background and similar build and similar skill
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set, and then Statlanders just is
coming off more and more rear Ripley issue
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in a lot of ways, and
so much as match and like this is
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actually pretty good and pretty compelly.
The only thing I didn't like, like
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I thought the match was really great
for an aw women's match, is they
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kept typing up Julia's twenty eight match
win streak, and also the fact that
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stat Lander has been the person who's
beating her the last several times. I
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just kind of thought Julie would get
maybe a little bit more offense and and
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get a maybe a couple more near
falls. It seem like the time that
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she had the most offense was when
they were on the floor fighting. So
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that was my only takeaway from it. Like I just said, always Julie
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had a little bit more offense to
kind of create that threat. But for
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a women's match with two very young
women's wrestlers, was really really good.
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Yeah, it was a fun one. It was a really fun one.
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And it's not a match that I
figured would be on my radar as a
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match that would surprised me, and
it did. Statlander and Julie Hart was
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a lot of a lot of fun. Next match was the Young Bucks defeated
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the Guns Luca Brothers and Orange Cassidy
and Hook in a four way tag team
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match to win a future AW World
Tag Team CHAMPIONI match. I had Orange,
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Cassidy and Hook, Doctor Trey had
the Guns. Good match. I
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just think it would have been nice
to see another tag team not named the
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Young Bucks in in an AW Tach
Team Championship match. But it looks like
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AW wants up another FTR Bucks match
again soon, Doctor Tray the Bucks are
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the NORM one contenders again. Yeah, I mean this was a fun match,
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you know, got I mean,
other than the Ray Phoenix injury,
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Like, it was really really,
you know, pretty irritating. I'm a
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huge Guns fan, like those guys
have I have won may over. I
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mean, they are literally trying to
be all four members all like all five
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members of d X at one time. So I gotta get those guys credit.
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But I mean me, I would
have held off on, you know,
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setting up Bucks FTR four maybe a
little bit longer out the Guns still
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have unfinished business with him. You
could have gone loot your bros as well,
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But I mean I can't really go
wrong with FTR and the Bucks just
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because everybody's continue to watch because they
know that it's gonna be a damn good
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match. Next match is Swerve Strickland
defeating Hangman Adam Page. I had Swerved
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had Hangman, great match. I've
been so happy for the building success of
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Sturve Strickland since coming over to AW. He has put on some size,
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his in ring remains great, and
he has one of the most compelling characters
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on AW television. This was by
far the biggest win of his career thus
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far, and I'm really looking forward
to see how AW Cree have capitalized on
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this win for Swerve. Swerve Strickland
defeats the Hangman. If you had told
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me a year ago that Swerve strictly
would be a bigger star in AW than
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Keith Lee, I would have said, you're nuts. But that's where we're
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at right now. Like Swarve,
this was a fantastic match and had me
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into it. I loved the contrast
in Hangman kind of having to play the
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heel because they're here in Seattle,
Prince Nana as have fun watching him dance
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the entire the entire match and everything
else. Just a fantastic match. And
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then just the elevation of Swerve just
shows how much faith they have in him
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right now, because you don't give
victories or a former aw world champion very
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often if you're kind of the quote
unquote mid card guy, and Swerve got
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it done. So kudos those guys. It was. It was a damn
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damn good match. We did not
predict the next one here is Ricky Starks
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defeats Wheeler. You'd it was announced. I believe on collision, good match.
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Ricky Starks remains on fire. I
do love the Big Bill Ricky Starks
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pairing as it reminds me of an
HBK Diesel pairing. Ricky Stark's work wins
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again Doctor Trey and defeats Wheeler Da
so as Stark's a heel again ers you
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a baby face because I'm still confused
on what Blackpool Combat Club is, so
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I think they're back as babyfaces.
I can understand the confusion though, yes,
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okay, because there wasn't. It
wasn't really because even in the backstage
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segment you had kind of come came
off as a dick. So it's still
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a little confusing, but uh,
really good match. I love Moxley.
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Moxley on commentary. Saved Youda in
this match because he kept saying like,
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hey, this is Youa's first pay
per view match as singles match. I
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don't care if he wins or loses. It's all about building him up for
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five years from now. So it
was a way of Moxley saving the character
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of Wheeler DA in a losing effort
to Ricky Starks and I like Ricky,
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but I think he's got to put
on a little bit more size. He's
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got to get on the Sward Strickland
die. He's got to put on about
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twenty four pounds of muscle to do. It'll be a main eventor I actually
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have a note about Moxley on commentary
For the next match, here is Brian
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Daniel Danielson defeats Zach Saber Junior.
We both had Danielson get in the victory
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here. It was a technical wrestling
masterpiece that was expected between these two greats
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and they delivered. I hope Dragons
ZSJ do it again sometimes soon. Sidebar
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and this entire thing. Moxley surprisingly
great on commentary for both Starks and DA
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and Danielson ZSJ. But this match
was phenomenal. Doctor Treys. Danielson defeats
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ZSJ. I have a note on
commentary for this one as well, But
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yeah, fantastic match. It was
everything I thought it would be. I
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love Zach Saber Junior's blonde hair.
I don't know that's a recent thing or
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fairly since he left his last stable
there. It's it's like he went to
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the Cody Roads. He went to
the barbershop and said give me the Cody
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Roads and that's what they were like, Okay, yeah, we can tell
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you do that. So and I
love the pairy with TMDK because I'm a
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big fan of those guys. So
over like fantastic match. Commentary wise,
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if you're listening to commentary, is
are they setting up Nigel to potentially get
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back in during with Brian Dangleson,
Nigel has been pushing that he wants one
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more match with Danielson, and he's
been pushing that a lot on commentary.
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I would imagine it's happening because according
to reports and I think his own like
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Instagram, Nigel is training to become
a wrestler again at the very least,
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or to wrestle at the very least
put him put him as the mouthpiece for
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TMDK eight, you know, like
that at the very least on me.
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Well, if they're there regularly,
right, Yeah, so if they're gonna
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be around, put Nigel with them
or let you know, if Will Ospray's
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with Don Kallis slide Ozzie open over
them as well and just put them all
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together, like all the all the
Australians and British go to Nigel. That
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should be the rule. And I
could literally if you just took ex Caliber
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out of the broadcast move of that
one, I could literally just listen to
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Nigel and John Moxley go back and
forth. They were great. It was
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good. It was really freaking good. Yeah, commentary on this entire show
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overall, outside of Taz screw some
stuff up and Nigel calling them on it
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which actually made it entertaining. H
was really really good the entire night.
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So yeah, no, they they
were great. I love the aw commentary
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teams because they sound like they're having
like a lot of fun. Like they
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always cracked me up. The Taz
Shavanni excliber one always cracks me up.
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I just think it's it's very hard
to do because they keep changing out people.
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Yes, you know, your rotate
Savanni, Tazz and Jay Are.
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It's not easy to get in a
rhythm and for that going on, those
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guys did a fantastic job. I
mean it made leonary for what five and
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a half hours, So yes,
yes, it was Yeah. The don
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Colls family, Kenoso Get Takeshka Samy
of Arnwell, Osprey defeat Christ Jericho and
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the Golden Lead of Kenny Omegan Cooto
Obushi in a trios match. We both
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had the don Kal's family winning.
This match is really good until the finish
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when it took forever for the interference
spots, only for Don Cows to roll
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out of the ring in eyesight of
the ref and Osprey being able to hold
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off Coda and Omega while Takeshka was
doing nothing to preserve the pin to the
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very slow three count, which is
typically a reserve for injured refs, which
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Aubrey was not for the end,
ninety five percent of this match was great.
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The final five percent was not.
Don Kalle's Family wins. Doctor Trey.
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00:26:51.720 --> 00:26:52.759
You know, for all the time
a couple of weeks ago about the
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the Mockley Phoenix missed three count spot, Aubrey Edwards is the worst referee in
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aw WHOA, she's she's got awful
like she like the rep's job is to
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00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:11.240
not be noticeable, and she is. In every match she does something,
403
00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:15.200
whether it's like in this match,
the kicking the with the when they're doing
404
00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:18.960
the four way stretch on the abdominal
stretch with the Don Couch family and she
405
00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:23.000
runs in to kick the arm and
then all that stuff. She's always noticeable,
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00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:26.079
like she's just not good. I
mean, the at least the women
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in it WW the two Feopble reference
they have there don't typically get involved.
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00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:36.240
So but this match that he said, I love, this match I thought
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00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:40.599
was really good, really, you
know, top notch, but yeah,
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00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:45.039
the finishes weird and I literally,
as will Osprey is holding two grown men
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00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:48.480
with one arm each from getting into
the ring, I went, well,
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I did tell Jeff about four years
ago, if will Osprey put on about
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thirty pounds of muscle, he'd be
a main event guy. And will Osprey's
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00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:59.519
just showing off. They put on
thirty pounds of muscle. Takeshka. Man,
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he's he's he can be so good, but he's still green. And
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you see it in a couple of
spots in that match where right there Ospra
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00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:10.119
has to cover for him not being
there to hold a leg or you know,
418
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the finish, when he's just kind
of hunched over in the corner waiting
419
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for something to happen, waiting for
Cal's interfere. It's just like, you
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know, he's gonna be a he's
gonna be a huge star. The guy's
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gonna be a potential. You know, if he goes back to New Japan,
422
00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:27.319
he'll be a new Japan heavyweight champion. But right now he's still a
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little raw, and when you got
everybody else in there, it kind of
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00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:33.359
shows out. But sorry, the
matter with me was saman Gavar. Saman
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00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:37.160
Gavar is having so much fun fighting
Chris Jericho, Like you just feel how
426
00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:40.839
much joy he was having. It's
a shame he got apparently concussed during that
427
00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:44.480
match, but even celebrating wise,
you couldn't sell he was concussed because he
428
00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:48.839
was still making jokes and everything else. So just top match match is a
429
00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:52.839
little clunky on the finish. Next
rat year was FTR defeating Ossi Open and
430
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retaining aw World Tag Team Championship.
Both an FTR again the victory great tag
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00:28:56.759 --> 00:28:59.480
match. I thought This was a
statement match for OSSI Open to the American
432
00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:02.400
audience at they are a great tag
team, as they seem to lead most
433
00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:06.160
of the match and looked poised to
beat FTR. I've got your performance from
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00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:10.160
Mark Davis of OSSI Open battleing through
with a broken wrist. The super Shadow
435
00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:14.480
machine was a cool spot FTR retain
over OSSI Open Doctor Try Yeah, but
436
00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:17.960
then they just did a super shadow
machine during the Young Bucks match. Did
437
00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:19.680
they do that all in? Probably? Yeah, I'm pretty sure they did
438
00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:23.680
it all in because I think you're
right yeap, So here's a cool spot,
439
00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:26.319
Like I love the match, but
then when it came to the fish,
440
00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:30.000
I'm like, wait, did I
just kind of see this match it
441
00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:33.240
all in? Like it was almost
copy and paste for a lot of a
442
00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:37.880
lot of the spots for FTR Ozie
Open look great, which tells me that
443
00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:41.839
FTR is very a very giving tag
team that they'll whoever they're the ring with,
444
00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:45.599
they're gonna make them look like stars. So great perforce for Ossie Open.
445
00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:49.079
I hope you know, Mark Davis
gets back soon because it just sucks
446
00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:52.000
we have a breakout match and then
you break your wrists because then you might
447
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:56.759
get shows the pretty deadly syndrome,
you know, like you're getting a push
448
00:29:56.799 --> 00:29:59.440
and then one guy gets injured and
then you're just off TV for a while.
449
00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:03.279
So up an FDR when they were
back in wa Yeah. So but
450
00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:04.680
for those guys, I mean,
it was a great match. I just
451
00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:10.039
to me once again, like it's
Aussie Open doing FTR shadow Regine. Well,
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we just saw that the Young Bucks
match. There's a lot of the
453
00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:15.799
similarity between this match and the Young
Bucks match. But that match was fantastic.
454
00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:19.279
So if you're on copy something that's
fantastic, it's probably gonna be fantastic
455
00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:23.680
again. So there you go.
Next match was Christian Cage defeating Darby Allen
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in a two out of three falls
match to retain the aw t NT Championship.
457
00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:32.279
We both had Christian Cage getting the
victory. Very entertaining, compelling match.
458
00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:33.680
The falls made a ton of sense
that they and they played to each
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wrestaureran on how they were executed,
from Darby using the turtleneck to outsmart Christian,
460
00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:42.480
to Christian's count out victory, and
then finally Nick Wayne turning on Darby
461
00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:45.519
for the final three. It was
an all around great match and the finish
462
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:51.839
of Adam Edge Copeland making his AW
debut was really well executed, but more
463
00:30:51.880 --> 00:30:53.759
on him on a bit in a
bit here, doctor Trey, your thoughts
464
00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:59.839
here. Christian Cage defeats Darby to
retain you forget sometimes how good Christian Cage
465
00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:03.440
can beat her right match, and
I'm like, man, like, this
466
00:31:03.519 --> 00:31:07.680
is so much of his time in
WW mix with what he wants in you
467
00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:12.640
in a ring like typical traditional wretches. The wrestling matches don't get the turtle
468
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:17.519
deck spots, you know, but
it made sense in this avenue. You
469
00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:21.079
know, you don't get that.
The brutality of those moves on the steps.
470
00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:23.519
I'm like, like, dark,
I swear to guy like Christian was
471
00:31:23.559 --> 00:31:26.640
gonna do that soup plexit, went
this might kill Darby, let me go
472
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:30.559
do it on the floor, and
then the weird body slam on it.
473
00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:33.759
I was like, that's him protecting
Darby and not taking us their wrists.
474
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:40.119
Like this match was was really really
good. The Nick Wayne turned I think,
475
00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:41.720
I like I saw it, I
kind of saw it coming, but
476
00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:47.960
I'm kind of over Nick Wayne's mom. I don't know what it is,
477
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:52.480
Like this just too of her in
that match, like she had more screen
478
00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:56.640
time than almost anybody else in that
match. Just seemed like I was like,
479
00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:59.839
somebody just loves that blondheaded woman over
there in the corner. Okay,
480
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:02.240
but you know it made sense for
the finish. You saw her being upset
481
00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:07.279
with Nick turning on her and turning
on Derby and siding with Christian Cage.
482
00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:10.240
I'll tink right now, I'm stealing
the Patriarch gimmick. I don't know if
483
00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:13.839
that's gonna be his actual nickname that
Nigel gave him to that metch, but
484
00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:16.039
if not, I'm taking it.
I will I will call myself the patriarch
485
00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:20.759
and the daddy of every wrestling company
I work for ever in the future again.
486
00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:23.400
So I'm totally stealing that. But
just a really really good, fun,
487
00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:28.079
entertaining match real quick, before we
give Masha the Knight an event rate
488
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and recap pay for reprediction record.
Just want to add this because I don't
489
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know how else we're gonna address this, but Doctor Trey missed opportunity by aw
490
00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:38.119
not addressing why Nick Wayne did what
he did on Wednesday's Dynamite. I think
491
00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:42.960
so a little bit like they should
have done the little like Cage in the
492
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:46.039
ring Nick within there explaining what he
did. Give a little more. I
493
00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:50.799
mean, I know on commentary they
try to explain it how like Darby trained
494
00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:54.519
at his dad's school and Nick grew
up watching Derby in there, and they
495
00:32:54.599 --> 00:32:59.720
tried to allude to, you know, Christian being the father figure now for
496
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:02.480
Nick with him not having one.
I know they try to cover, but
497
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:07.960
it'd be nice to hear from the
horse's mouth and give a little more depth,
498
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:13.000
even if it's just Christian doing it
for him. You know, to
499
00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:15.880
me, this is really reminiscent of
you know, I think I told you
500
00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:20.799
off air like last week about this
where I kind of felt like Nick would
501
00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:23.720
turn because Christian Cageon needed a new
jungle boy. You know, you need
502
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:28.480
that young guy to kind of mold
into your own image. And by god,
503
00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:31.920
Nick Wayne could fit the Christian character
to a t if this is the
504
00:33:32.039 --> 00:33:36.359
career path he wants to go.
Hopefully, they addressed it on Rampage or
505
00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:38.000
Collision, so they still have a
lot of programming to do this, but
506
00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:44.720
they did not immediately address it.
On Wednesday, Dynamite paperbreew prediction record for
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00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:46.480
a W. Russell Dream I went
eight and one Doctor Tree went seven to
508
00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:50.559
two. Coming out of this pay
per view, I'm at ninety eight thirty
509
00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:53.799
six Doc to Train ninety two and
forty two Match of the night in event
510
00:33:53.880 --> 00:33:58.559
rating, I gave Wrussell Dream a
four point one, very very enjoyable show,
511
00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:00.640
and I gave my Match the Night
to Danielson and Zach Saber Junior.
512
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:05.599
I was at a four point too. This is actually my one of my
513
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:08.880
more favorite AW papers. There really
wasn't a outside of the pre show.
514
00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:14.840
There really wasn't a clunker match on
here. And maybe it's because almost every
515
00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:19.920
single match featured a former ww guy
leading the match in some way outside But
516
00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:22.519
my match of the night, my
surprise you. I gave it to Swerve
517
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:27.679
and Adam Page, Like, I
just really loved that match, and and
518
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:30.480
can we get all the Adams onto
one tag team and just call him like
519
00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:35.280
the Adam Smashers or you know,
the three man Adams or something of that
520
00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:37.719
coming in. Whether there's Cole Copeland
Page, Am I missing any of the
521
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:45.800
other Adams, Ali, Alex Abrahontes, Yeah he's not. He's not an
522
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:49.239
Adam though, but we just Adam
because he's an Alex. Oh, okay,
523
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:54.199
just changed his name to Adam Adam
Abrahontes after this, there's a lot
524
00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:58.440
of there's a lot of Adams in
this company right now, and Alex Marvaz
525
00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:01.760
Ah yeah, and then or you
do Brian Cage and Christian Cage. True.
526
00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:05.960
True. If this was WWA,
they would not be liking this right
527
00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:09.039
now. So there you go.
Actually that fits, Doctor Tray. This
528
00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:15.199
was your highest rated AW show so
far this year. Sometimes I pay attention
529
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:17.599
to what we do here. Here
you go, Yeah, highest rated awshow.
530
00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:22.679
It was a very, very solid, good show from all Elite Wrestling
531
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:27.159
this past Sunday night. The big
news coming out of the show, Doctor
532
00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:32.840
Trey was the debut of Adam Edge
Copeland. We talked about this a couple
533
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:39.760
of weeks back after Adam Copeland,
It's gonna be weird saying this now had
534
00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:44.800
his final match in w again Seamous
on SmackDown, celebrating twenty five years.
535
00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:49.239
There's a lot of rumors in reports
suggesting that he was on his way to
536
00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:52.360
awwfelt he was on his way to
AWAW felt he was on his way to
537
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:57.559
AW. We discussed it at the
time. We were not in favor of
538
00:35:57.559 --> 00:36:01.320
the idea. We felt that Adam
Copeland was a guy edge needed to stay
539
00:36:01.320 --> 00:36:10.199
in wa well with one appearance and
then watching the post media scrum, the
540
00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:15.840
post show media scrum, reading a
couple of interviews he's done, watching some
541
00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:22.159
more videos exclusives, and reading his
tweets. This was the right move for
542
00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:28.920
Adam Copeland. I am not a
person who is a tribalistic fan of wrestling
543
00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:31.559
where I'm on team WE I hate
AW, or I'm on team AW and
544
00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:37.880
I hate WE. I like both
companies equally. I do think that there
545
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:42.199
are some wrestlers that are just AW
stars and WE stars, and they should
546
00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:45.239
have remained with those companies. I
did think that Adam Copeland was one of
547
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:50.320
those people. I am wrong.
You hear what he had to say.
548
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:53.280
He has nothing but amblicable and nice
things to say about his time in WE.
549
00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:59.840
He felt that he and w WE
had outgrown one another creatively, that
550
00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:06.000
AW spoke to him more, and
it gave him an opportunity to wrestle with
551
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:08.440
his friends and be with people that
he has never wrestled with. Have a
552
00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:15.239
blank canvas and whenever you hear Adam
Colplan speak like it's legitimate, it's authentic,
553
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:20.199
and it's just rejuvenating to hear,
because you don't hear many people say
554
00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:24.199
that, and his radiation on the
screen of how exciting it was was that
555
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:29.039
he was really really spoke to me
as a fan, and you can't do
556
00:37:29.119 --> 00:37:32.000
nothing more than just be excited and
happy for him, Doctor Trey. And
557
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:38.519
I mean, I think I've always
kind of underappreciated Edge as a whole.
558
00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:43.320
I've never been a huge Edge guy, But the more I've seen him over
559
00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:45.960
these last couple of years, you
really start to appreciate him, especially being
560
00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:51.039
the fact that he was away for
almost ten years. I'm super excited for
561
00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:54.119
him, Doctor Trey. I think
this was a great pickup for AW.
562
00:37:54.960 --> 00:38:01.000
It is a pickup that can fill
the void of what CM punk was potentially
563
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:07.480
supposed to do with AW and and
b uh somebody that can can be a
564
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:13.039
leader in a locker room and be
a sounding board for the company and also
565
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:16.159
represented proudly on television each week.
This, to me, is is the
566
00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:22.280
perfect move for both AW and Adam
Copeland. Adam Copeland is all elite doctor
567
00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:27.800
try Yeah, So like from an
AW perspective, it's a great move.
568
00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:31.639
It immediately fills the CM punk boy
and you're filling it with somebody who I
569
00:38:31.639 --> 00:38:36.679
have never heard anybody really say a
bad word about Edge. No, it
570
00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:38.719
all my years of wrestling, you
know, and fandom and then being in
571
00:38:38.760 --> 00:38:42.639
the business a little bit like,
No, he's ever had a bad word
572
00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:46.159
to say. I mean literally,
like there are other there Edge and Christian's
573
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:51.079
best other best friend of sind body
who comes to Rocket City quite frequently,
574
00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:54.719
and I mean, you've never heard
a bad thing about those guys. Edge
575
00:38:54.760 --> 00:39:00.599
is the consummate professional, Like he
understands you don't Burnbridge hell, you know,
576
00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:04.760
when he's sixty five, he may
want that WW Legends deal. So
577
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:07.920
you don't say anything bad. You
don't say anything bad about the burn Bridges.
578
00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:12.480
From a personal aspect for Adam Copeland, it's a great move. Like
579
00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:15.400
we just said, Christian Cage is
like, you know, lifelong best friend
580
00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:22.840
FTR are his best friends. Uh. Like I was laughing about it as
581
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:23.840
I watched the show, because you
know, you and I were talking about
582
00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:27.719
like CMFTR when Pug was I'm like, okay, cool. Now we get
583
00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:30.559
rated FTR or ft rated R,
like we get some kind of combination of
584
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:35.760
that. That'll be fun. Yeah, getting to work with Jericho and Omega,
585
00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:39.239
all these guys that, all these
Canadians you know that he's either been
586
00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:44.039
friends with, been into business with, or helped kind of mold, you
587
00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:49.079
know, is great for him.
I'm not entirely sold on AW bookings,
588
00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:51.920
so I always say this, I'm
cautious. This is one of our great
589
00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:57.800
catchphrases here. I'm cautiously optimistic about
how they book edge in AW. Like
590
00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:01.119
some of the people have come over
WWE that we were super excited about,
591
00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:05.119
thought they'd get a great opportunity,
have kind of fallen by the wayside,
592
00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:09.119
and then we get other people that
shine. I'm causually optimistic that he'll get
593
00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:15.199
a great push, that he'll get
a great run. God knows, there's
594
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:17.599
seventy five titles in AW, so
he'll probably have one within three weeks.
595
00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:22.960
But from a personal level, which
is what wrestling really does come down to,
596
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this is the best move for him
personally, for his career and for
597
00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:34.000
the next you know, like he
said, for eight twelve years, for
598
00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:36.679
as long as he wants to be
wrestling, this is the best spot for
599
00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:40.360
him. I'm with you. I
thought the same thing there. It's creatively
600
00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:45.000
with AW. It can be hit
or missed sometimes they are hitting on all
601
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:46.519
strides and it's a lot of fun, and then there's times where it's like,
602
00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:51.679
man, they've kind of forgotten about
this angle in the storyline. I
603
00:40:51.679 --> 00:40:53.880
guess the saving grace here, Doctor
Trey is and correct me if I'm wrong
604
00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:58.320
if you feel otherwise. When it
comes to AW Creative right now, he
605
00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:04.159
is injecting himself into to what is, in my opinion, probably the number
606
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:07.679
one best storyline in AW right now
with Christian Cage, which is or as
607
00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:12.239
Nick Wayne Darby Alenstin whoever like this
is to me, I think this is
608
00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:15.360
some of the best stuff they're doing. I think it has surpassed the MJF
609
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:21.360
Adam Cole stuff because of Adam Cole's
injury. But I would say that the
610
00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:23.840
saving grace here is, while I
agree with you on the AW Creative Edge,
611
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:30.599
is entering into maybe the best creative
storyline in all lead wrestling right now.
612
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:36.079
Uh. I will say, yes, the Adamical injury dampened the better
613
00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:40.320
than You Babe storyline. I think
we're for guys like you and me.
614
00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:47.280
The interjecting himself into the Cage derby
Nick Wayne storyline is great because we have
615
00:41:47.360 --> 00:41:52.559
history like you know, if Edge
and Christian Cage are working together, it's
616
00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:57.719
going to be good because they've got
twenty years of proof that it'll be good
617
00:41:57.760 --> 00:41:59.960
and it'll be entertaining. I mean, hell, we can go back.
618
00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:02.800
I can. Is the Edge Christian
show still around that we can watch on
619
00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:06.599
Peacock, you know, I think
it is. That is such an underrated,
620
00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:09.239
amazing show on the network. But
just the fact that you can go
621
00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:14.960
see their comedic timing and how well
everybody else played off of them and went
622
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:19.559
along with their stuff, and Edge
lends instant credibility to any storyline if he
623
00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:23.320
goes to two. Like if if
MGVIND walked out and said, hey,
624
00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:28.360
I got somebody to night to help
me since Adam Cole's out and Edge had
625
00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:32.280
come out to be mjf's partner in
that match against the Righteous and interjected himself
626
00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:36.280
into the storyline with MGF and Adam
Cole. You and I've been like,
627
00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:38.400
oh my god, that's it,
Adam Adam Copeland, mgf's a dream match,
628
00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:43.039
Adam Copland, Adam Cole, that's
a dream match. We probably would
629
00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:47.039
have felt very similar, but the
fact that it's Adam Copeland and Christian Cage,
630
00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:52.159
you get that extra layer of credibility
built onto it to even hype it
631
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:57.239
up even more. I thought there
was an interesting point made by Edge resa
632
00:42:57.320 --> 00:43:00.400
they had outgrown one another he and
w w WA. Do you do you
633
00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:06.199
agree with that? Because when you
look back at the creative for Edge,
634
00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:12.400
since he's come back right, very
intermittent here and there, comes off like
635
00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:15.719
a part time star because he was
booked that way and his contract, I'm
636
00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:20.320
guessing was that way at a certain
amount of dates, and then he wants
637
00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:22.760
to go to aw and work a
full time schedule, which is kind of
638
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:24.800
strange because it's like, okay to
them, why didn't you do that?
639
00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:30.639
In w WA? Is he right? Do you think did he and w
640
00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:35.440
WE outgrow one another? Because I
feel like they kind of have taken him
641
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:39.039
for granted ever since Wrestle Many thirty
eight or Wrestle at thirty nine closed out
642
00:43:39.199 --> 00:43:43.039
back in his match of the Hell
of Sell match with with Finn Ball,
643
00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:45.599
or maybe they knew he was on
his way out. I just felt like
644
00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:47.920
it was it was a weird ending
and maybe weird creative for some time with
645
00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:52.639
Edge. I think on one hand, they looked at it and went,
646
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:58.000
we've had ed and Rowan reigns.
We've had Edge and seth Rawlins, We've
647
00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:02.000
had Edge and Finn Balor, We've
had Edge and Randy Orton. There maybe
648
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:08.519
in their minds there wasn't enough people
deserving of the EDGE rub, so to
649
00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:13.000
speak. And we've seen this with
We saw it with Page, we saw
650
00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:16.199
with Daniel Bryan. With the people
who are coming back from like long term
651
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:21.199
injuries, they don't put them on
a full time schedule. They do put
652
00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:23.719
them on a part time or not
at all type schedule, and then when
653
00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:30.199
they go to AW, they wrestle
way more frequently. So I think Edge's
654
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:36.519
limited usage in WW is more health
related and the W doctor is kind of
655
00:44:36.559 --> 00:44:39.920
airing on the side of safety.
I guess I don't want to say safety
656
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:44.480
beause that makes it sound like AW
is not safe, but let's wear and
657
00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:49.679
tear and kind of kind of like
in the NBA where Lebron will take four
658
00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:52.559
nights off to come back and play
a big game, you know on the
659
00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:55.360
weekend, you know you want to
save him for the playoffs. I kind
660
00:44:55.360 --> 00:44:58.800
of feel like W did that with
Edge, where they were saving him for
661
00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:04.159
the big sp and using even those
roles where AW can look at and go,
662
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:07.480
Hey, we can put you on
Dynamite Collision. If you want to
663
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:09.239
be on Rampage, We'll put you
on Rampage. Hell if we stop another
664
00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:14.719
YouTube show, we'll put you on
there. Like they're going to maximize on
665
00:45:14.920 --> 00:45:19.000
the value that Adam Copeland brings.
Where WB has so much value built in,
666
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:24.599
they don't need an Adam Copeland where
I think AW given the cmpunk situation,
667
00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:30.639
desperately needed a guy of Adam Copeland's
name value to bring in. So
668
00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:35.480
will this be successful? Doctor Trey
right, that's stand all be all here?
669
00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:40.079
Is this going to be a successful
new relationship for both Adam Copeland and
670
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:44.719
Ali Rustling? I think it is. I love this move, to be
671
00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:46.800
honest with you. I think it's
a great move also just and like we
672
00:45:46.800 --> 00:45:53.480
talked about earlier. To me,
it's the professionalism and the mindset that Adam
673
00:45:53.519 --> 00:45:59.159
Copeland has where everybody that roster's gonna
love the guy. Like like I said,
674
00:45:59.320 --> 00:46:04.800
you never heard anybody say a bad
thing about Adam Copeland in all that
675
00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:08.760
time in WWE, where he can
come in and he can fit in with
676
00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:14.639
anybody on this rostery He's got you
know, for all the X we guys.
677
00:46:14.679 --> 00:46:17.199
He's got store backstorylines built in for
all the young guys. It's similar
678
00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:21.400
to what they were going to see
him punk. You know, he can
679
00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:24.239
fit across all the boards. And
the other thing is he's another great recruiter.
680
00:46:24.239 --> 00:46:28.760
We heard about Cody recruiting and Jade
Cargill. You know, if if
681
00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:31.880
somebody's contracts up a WW and you
get a call from Edge, who was
682
00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:35.880
just there, why would you not
pick up that phone call and listen?
683
00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:38.159
So this is kind of like,
I don't want to say it's it's reminiscent
684
00:46:38.199 --> 00:46:40.480
of the Monday Night Wars, but
it's a little bit tipped for Ted.
685
00:46:40.519 --> 00:46:44.960
Hey, we took Cody and Jade. You guys took you know, Brian
686
00:46:45.079 --> 00:46:49.199
and Uh and Edge from us.
They took they took a lot from w
687
00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:54.000
to be honest, that's true.
Adam Coles, Oh yeah, I mean
688
00:46:54.039 --> 00:46:58.119
you can run down the list,
but I mean it's a great I mean
689
00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:01.000
to counter I mean the most too
recent ones have been you know, Jade
690
00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:06.440
and Cody. This is a great
counter for Jade and Cody. I was
691
00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:08.840
recently just thinking about that. We'll
get to preview and w fast line preview
692
00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:14.480
predictions. Hem romentarily. I was
just thinking recently, like I was watching
693
00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:20.639
Dynamite and it was that opening segment
with with Renee, Omega, Jericho and
694
00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:23.639
Edge, and I'm sitting there and
I'm like, and I thought this the
695
00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:28.000
night before too, when I was
listening to Nigel on commentary. There are
696
00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:31.920
so many people that w we have
let walk that are so talented and it
697
00:47:31.960 --> 00:47:36.519
makes you really scratch your head because
I'm listening to Nigel do commentary and I'm
698
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:40.960
thinking to myself like why why was
he just you know, why wasn't he
699
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:45.920
elevated for NXC when it was him
Mari, ernardlo And and Beth Phoenix like
700
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:50.800
that was a really good commentary team, even Percy Percy Watson, Like why
701
00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:54.199
was he relegated to I think like
two of five Live at the end and
702
00:47:54.239 --> 00:47:58.639
maybe it was a little bit of
NXC level up? Why was this guy
703
00:47:58.679 --> 00:48:01.199
on Ron SmackDown? He's so good? Renee backstage, It's like, why
704
00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:07.800
why isn't she working the microphone in
raw or smack Down or hosting the show
705
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:13.239
for w A. All these talented
stars, Danielson, Adam Cole, Edge,
706
00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:16.599
like all these guys like what why, why would you leave w or
707
00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:21.119
why would w WE let you leave? But I think all those people have
708
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:24.519
made the right career decisions by going
all lead wrestling, And it just made
709
00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:28.039
me like scratching my head a little
bit. I had just like this moment
710
00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:30.679
of clarity on Sunday for a little
bit and then watching the show on Wednesday's
711
00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:34.920
time, and I'm like, there
are so many talented people that w was
712
00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:37.239
like, all right, we're ready
to move on from you that have been
713
00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:40.639
so much more successful now in all
lea wrestling. Swarre Strickland is another one,
714
00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:45.360
Like what Swarve Strickland has been one
of my favorite wrestlers this year's He's
715
00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:49.960
on the rise. There's so much
upside there, Like why why couldn't w
716
00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:52.559
W figure this out? I don't
know, just a weird, weird little
717
00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:55.360
thought that went through my head.
Doctor Trey Well as I've been watching AW
718
00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:59.920
last couple of days, but I
was like, man, WW really fun
719
00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:02.920
up with some of these guys and
girls. It to me is a little
720
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:07.360
bit of a you're a Northeastern guy. It's a little bit of Bill Belichick
721
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:09.960
mentality. In w W they'd rather
let a guy leave too early than too
722
00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:15.800
late. I'm also a Packers fan, so I'm used to that, I
723
00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:17.679
know, but it's a little bit
of like, hey, you know,
724
00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:22.840
do we hang on to these guys
and basically milk them for everything they have?
725
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:24.400
And we've seen them do that back
in the nineties and they kind of
726
00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:30.840
backfired. And I think Vince and
you know the other higher ups have just
727
00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:34.920
been conditioned to, hey, we're
you know, let's keep building on the
728
00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:37.280
future, keep building in the future, and then it ends up happening.
729
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:38.079
If you get a show, you're
like, crap, we got to bring
730
00:49:38.119 --> 00:49:43.000
in a Sena or a Lessner or
somebody like that, just because maybe the
731
00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:45.960
our younger guys don't have the name
value. But you know, with aw
732
00:49:46.039 --> 00:49:50.400
once again, it's a much You
also look at the travel schedule for some
733
00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:52.840
of the stuff with some of these
older guys, like, you know,
734
00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:55.960
could they keep up working three hundred
and twenty or three hundred days of year
735
00:49:55.960 --> 00:50:00.639
and actually I think he's probably down
about two fifty, but eight w works
736
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:04.519
one hundred and twenty. You know, it's still a you know, half
737
00:50:04.599 --> 00:50:07.360
the schedule for this, you're roughly
the same amount of pay. You know,
738
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:10.119
if you're an older guy, why
wouldn't you make the jump. And
739
00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:13.719
for all the successes that they these
guys have had, you know, we
740
00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:16.679
mentioned I mentioned the b show.
Keith Lee's on the pre show. You
741
00:50:16.719 --> 00:50:20.039
know, this is a guy that
you and I like. This Gid was
742
00:50:20.039 --> 00:50:22.519
a guy that was punching Roman Reigns
in the face at Survivor series just a
743
00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:25.280
couple of years ago. And we
all have to be a ban event star.
744
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:29.719
And he's on the pre show of
AW had an inter gender eight man
745
00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:32.480
tag match. No Mirror on this
show, No Malachi Black on the show,
746
00:50:32.519 --> 00:50:37.960
now Idelo on this show. So
for all the successes we've had,
747
00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:42.239
we've also seen it, you know, like Robert Strong's in a great storyline,
748
00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:45.679
but Bobby Fish is already out of
the company, you know, like
749
00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:50.679
and Kyler Riley's been hurt for the
last year, it seems like. So
750
00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:53.760
for all the great successes, there
are still some people that can't find their
751
00:50:53.760 --> 00:51:00.679
way. So I think W takes
educated bets on what's somebody will do,
752
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:05.760
and that is up to those guys
to either follow through and increase their value
753
00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:09.199
or kind of spread water and fall
by the wayside. Threw that W was
754
00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:14.119
right about them. Yeah, it's
strange. Yeah, there are some opposite
755
00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:16.360
are some downs, even like Tony
Storm recently, I saw her on television
756
00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:21.519
like Matt highly entertaining, but maybe
they need a company like AW do unlock
757
00:51:21.639 --> 00:51:24.320
that creativity. It's strange. It
makes you think a little bit. Some
758
00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:28.400
people do really well on the landscape, some people do really well in the
759
00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:31.199
AW landscape. Some people do really
well in both landscapes. I fully expect
760
00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:35.840
that Adam Edge Copeland will do very
well in All Lead Wrestling. It's a
761
00:51:35.880 --> 00:51:37.960
great signing, it's a great move. I'm very excited for Adam Copeland and
762
00:51:38.079 --> 00:51:43.159
really look forward to see this run
in All Lead wrestling. Let's wrap up
763
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:45.280
this week's edition of the show with
the w W Fastlane preview predictions. It
764
00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:50.159
comes to us this Saturday from the
game Bridget Fieldhouse in Indianapolis, Indiana.
765
00:51:50.519 --> 00:51:54.039
First match here is the Judgment Day
Finn Balor and Damian Preese defending the Undisputed
766
00:51:54.119 --> 00:51:59.760
Tag Team Championship against Cody Rhodes and
Jay Usso I've got the Judgment Day retaining
767
00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:01.599
on this one, Doctor Trey,
what say you? Yeah, I've got
768
00:52:01.639 --> 00:52:05.960
the Judgment Day retaining to set up
the Survivor Series match we talked about a
769
00:52:05.960 --> 00:52:08.400
couple weeks ago. But wait,
do you only have five matches? I
770
00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:12.199
only have five matches? Yeah,
okay, I looked it up. I
771
00:52:12.239 --> 00:52:14.400
was like, I only see five
matches in the show. So going from
772
00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:16.719
a five and a half hour pay
per views to some basically you do in
773
00:52:16.760 --> 00:52:20.559
an hour and a half if you
really wanted. That's one thing here.
774
00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:23.320
Let's take a quick pause. Aw, if they're doing twelve shows a year
775
00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:28.360
or more, they have got to
lower the time on these cards. It's
776
00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:30.840
it's way too fucking long, Doctor
Trey. Well, I mean, then
777
00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:36.559
again, you can look at it. WW is basically running NXT and a
778
00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:39.400
pay per view every single month.
You're still kind of getting about the same
779
00:52:39.400 --> 00:52:43.559
amount of time. They're just splitting
it up over two weekends. Well,
780
00:52:43.599 --> 00:52:46.159
I mean NXC just ran the show
this past weekend, and then then our
781
00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:50.119
next show is in early December,
so I wouldn't say it's like every month.
782
00:52:50.719 --> 00:52:54.360
Yeah, but the Survivor Series is
the end of November, so it
783
00:52:54.400 --> 00:52:59.199
could be possible that you do Survivors
Series and nxts on back to back weekends.
784
00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:01.119
Again, are you ending the five
and a half hour a W pay
785
00:53:01.119 --> 00:53:05.000
per views? No? No,
No, I'm wishing they would break it
786
00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:07.039
up. Do too nice. If
you're gonna do six hours, at least
787
00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:12.079
do WrestleMania. Like we literally just
talked about Keith Lee in a pre SCIOW
788
00:53:12.159 --> 00:53:14.400
match that made no sense at all, Like, what are we doing?
789
00:53:15.519 --> 00:53:21.159
Just giving him a paycheck? Holler
holler, holler? All right, next
790
00:53:21.159 --> 00:53:24.719
match, you're l w O,
ray Masteriro Santos Escomar and maybe either Jacques
791
00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:30.039
Wild or Cruise Del Toro taken on
Bobby Lashley in the Street Profits. They
792
00:53:30.039 --> 00:53:32.159
haven't announced the third person for l
w O. I seem to think that
793
00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:37.519
this will be oh God, Dragon
Lee and n next. I just have
794
00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:42.480
that feeling, Doctor Trey, who
do you like in this one? Uh?
795
00:53:42.519 --> 00:53:45.079
Well, I'm taking the street prop
or the street business. Can I
796
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call them street business or the hurt
profits? What I like hurt profits?
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I like the hurt profits. I'm
thinking this, guys, what is Carlito?
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Because good call? But uh how
about a great call because he's under
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contract? Yeah, because I keep
seeing them go, oh, it could
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be Cruise Del Toro. I'm like, like, really, that'd be a
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letdown if it's Cruise or uh no, no, no, you're right,
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this is the time to bring back
Carlito, who's reportedly under contract. I
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like that call, good call.
I've got Bobby Lashley in the street profits
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as well. Next match is the
triple Throat match for the WA Women's Championship
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EO Sky Defense against Oscar and Charlotte
Flair. I've got Io retaining Doctor Trey.
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This one's hard for me, like
I've literally I can. I literally
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start off this week thinking Charlotte's gonna
win, but I was like, no,
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she's not gonna break her dad's record
at fast Lane, and then I
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was with EO, and then I
was also with Oscar. So it's really
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hard because I like EO, but
I think, to me, EO and
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Bailey is the more compelling path.
But Bailey kind of set this match up,
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so you need her to cost EO
the title. So I'm gonna take
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Oscar regaining this backdown win this championship. Oh interesting. Next match is john
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Seen in LA and I take it
on the blood Line Jimmy Usso and so
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Lit's co Doctor Trey. Who do
you like this one? I just don't
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see how you have l A Knight
and Johnson to lose this match because Roman's
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not in it, and this also
sets up tension with Romans Solo and Jimmy
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if you want to go that route. So I'll take uh, Sina Knight
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Night, Sena Night moves that you
can't see me at night? Oh,
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I like you can't see night.
Yeah, I'm gonna take Johnson and l
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A Knight as well. Uh.
And then Seth Freaking Rollands takes on Shin
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to say knock amore in a last
man standing match for the World Heavyweight Championship.
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I've got Seth Freaking Rowlands retaining this
one. Doctor try yeah, over
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under on octopus holds or abdominal stretches
in this match, over under on those,
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I will say at what, like, what are you making the mark?
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Or do you want me to make
the mark? I'll set it at
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two. Okay, I was gonna
say two and a half, So I'll
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take the over. Okay, I'm
gonna take the under on this one just
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because of the tie into a.
Ok because Dear, with the back injury,
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you think, yeah, I think
you'll get one good one, but
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I think you may get more backstabbage
of this mass abdominal stretches. I don't
832
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know. I don't know if I
don't know if WW still likes to do
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abdominal stretches anymore. I don't know
that that was. I saw more abdominal
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stretches in one show at Wressell Dream
that I think I had seen in the
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entire year of professional wrestling prior.
So they should just call it Wressell Octopus
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stretch Octopus Abdominal Dreams, Abdominal Dreams. Yes, I like that better.
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So we both have taken Seth frank
and ronalds on this one. Yeah,
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taking Seth as well. All right, there you go, WWE fascinating.
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We will recap and review it on
next week's edition of sr TU. Would
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fast Laying and look back at everything
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For Doctor Trey Franklin, I am
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it as part of your week.
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srt you. This has been this
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It's still welcome everybody. Welcome to
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number seven hundred and twelve, October
fifth, twenty twenty three. This is
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your NXT No Mercy and a W. Russell Heuri in precap and Review edition
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plus w WE pay Back pret Human
Predictions edition of ask uh to You?
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I am one after Shell, I
am Jeff back joined every single week with
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my past, the one only Doctor
Trey Franklin. Doctor Trey. Do you
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think you know him? I mean, there's the guy in NXT that calls
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himself him or talk about him,
or he's some mother him. Do you
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think you know him him? Uh? Well, I've been to church,
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But do you do you think you
know him? I mean, do you
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ever really know him? Stay tuned, folks, universal question, Stay tuned.
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Welcome to this week's edition of sr
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Let's start it off with NXT No
Mercy recap in review was this past Saturday
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from the Mechanics Bank Arena in Bakersfield, California. Uh the pre show match
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here at Blair Davenport defeating Colonnie Jordan. We did not predict this one.
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Colonie Jordan looked good. Blair continues
the uh the storyline with Gigi Dolan.
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They carried over to Tuesday's an XCTV. Anything to say here about the pre
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show match. I didn't know who
Colonie Jordan was so good performance from subody
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to who was? But oh I
thought it was. It was an okay
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endeavor. Uh. Nothing really outside
of the continuing storyline with Blair and gg
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nothing really. It's right Homan out
about I do say, I do not
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like the name Klan because you had
a C to the end of her name.
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It's kind of gross. Yeah,
no, true, yes it is.
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It all sounds like a drink.
Hey, she's very impressive. She's
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in the Breakout Tournament. I'm a
fan of Klonnie Jordan. If you've not
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had a chance to check her out
in the ring, there is a lot
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of upside there. Onto the main
show, Baron Corben defeats braun Breaker.
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We both had broun Breaker again the
victory. This is a good physical match.
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Braun Breaker is definitely getting better in
the ring, and I liked how
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they have been booking braun as someone
who could come back for being slammed on
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a car or throw an announced table. The interference of mister Stelle makes sense.
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It helped cost Breaker the loss,
which didn't affect Braun's character negativity at
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all, and Baron Corman got a
nice win. Your thoughts here, Corbyn
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defeats Breaker. It reminds me a
little bit when Goldberg was a heel for
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that little bit time, and not
in a bad way. Just even in
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a loss, he can still look
like a legitimate monster slash badass. So
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it's good for Braun. It's good
for Baron to get a win kind of,
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you know, at least give him
a shot when people see him in
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a match, like, give him
a little bit of credibility that he actually
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wins something. So I thought it
was pretty good for both guys, and
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once again tied into tight end with
the von Wagner stuff. So I'm also
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still confused. I don't know who's
supposed to be rooting for in all these
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fair it is, yeah, two
heels, And I felt the same way
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on Tuesday's NXT when Baron Klebern was
still acting like a jackass, as was
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bron Breaker. It's like, how
do the fans cheer on a heel versus
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heel? Match, and Vaughn is
also a heel, so there's a street
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heel. He's been more of a
babyface lately, he has been. He's
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been accepting the fan base with his
with his storyline, with his medical condition
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upbringing, but he's been more of
the babyface. I hope Braun and Vaughn
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become a tag team at some point, just because the rhyming of it would
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be so much fun. Yeah,
that would be cool. It would be
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like an eighties or early nineties tag
team. Trick Williams defeats Dirty Domsteria to
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win the NX North American champion with
a Dirty Dom getting the victory. Surprising
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result of Dirty Dom dropping NX North
American Championship to Trick Williams, who was
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originally not supposed to be in this
match, but the change was made after
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Mustafa Ali the original opponent match was
shocking the release. I was happy for
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Trick, who had some good momentum
as of late and his in ring competitiveness
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has really improved. However, as
we learned, he dropped the championship on
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Tuesdays NXC to Dirty Dom. Your
thoughts on the NXC No Mercy match as
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well as the matter took place on
Tuesdays NXC Doctor Try. I was happy
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for Trick, but I don't like
the hot shotting of the title. It's
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almost like they they did it just
to give him a little bit of credibility,
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because really, for the majority of
his running XST Trick has not looked
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great. And it gave a little
credence to the reports that they were making
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Rea the official leader of Judgment Day. So you know, I was happy
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for me that regard, but then
it's around and take the belt right back
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off. I almost feel like this
is just they were like, hey,
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we had Mustafa book to win,
so let's go with that and then we'll
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just figure it out after this.
It was a good match and really enjoyable.
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It was, and I popped really
hard for a way to when Trick
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won. But to turn around to
take the belt right back off them,
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I thought was kind of U was
kind of low. Yeah, it was
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interesting and interesting and peculiar move by
by NX Creative. It makes you think
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if there if this adds to the
Carmelo Trick storyline. I don't know.
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It's strange if they're concerned about ratings
with Tuesday's aw NXC head to head.
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I don't know. Strange move there. The D'Angelo family defeats OTM, the
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Creed Brothers in Amberta Career, and
Angel Guards in a fatal four way match
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to retain the NXC Tag Team Championship. We both had the di Angelo family
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winning a good fatal four way match. Not sure I feel about the injury
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angle from Tony d though the finish
also came out of nowhere, as there
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was little bill or acknowledgment of their
finisher for the win. The d' angelo
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family retains Doctor Trey. Yeah,
I thought it was okay, but you
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know, like you rustling points there, I'm still trying to figure out what
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out the mud means. Were they
pigs in a past life? I don't.
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I don't really get it, but
I'm sure at some point they'll do
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it. Vig Yet explained a little
bit more. But uh, I saw
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those guys, they're they're big dudes, Like they're way bigger than I thought
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they were. So, you know, it just kind of led some more
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depth to the tag ting division.
But seeing the di' angelo family come out
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on top just give them a little
more credibility as well. So I thought
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it was Okay, just the finish
was odd. That injury angle. We've
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been there, kind of done that. I hope it's I hope it's not
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legit because I like Tony D.
But you know, if it is storyline,
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why because Tony D has been in
jail and injured and everything else.
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Like it is two years at NXC. Next match is no Am Dar defeating
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Butch to retaining NXC Heritage Cup.
We both at Butcherkin and the victory.
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I like the concept of the Heritage
Cup and the British rounds rule matches,
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but I'm not sure how it's playing
out in front of the live crowd.
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The last several times they've done these
matches, it's been met with the response.
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With that said, this match was
good to know. I'm Dar has
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been fantastic. So it's coming back
to NXC and the United States earlier that
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year. Obviously, we we got
to see Butch stick around a little bit
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longer as he and Tyler Bait did
take on Gallas on Tuesday's NXT, who
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interfered in this match. No Mdar
retains the NX Heritage Cup. Doctor try.
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Yeah. It reminds me of when
Impact had their their their Championship there
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there was that that weird title they
had kind yeah talking about they had judges
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and everything. Yeah, and you
would have like Lastly and McIntyre in a
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match and the crowd just be like, we don't know what's going on,
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and you and I talked about this
back way x UK was going on that
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although the in ring work is fantastic, it is kind of a scoring mentality
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as well. It's just kind of
like it's just, you know, it's
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hard to have a consistent match when
you have breaks. It's weird. It's
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it's hard to build up that anxiety
over what's going to happen next. So
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it's I think the I think every
time there's a pinfall or that, the
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crowd loses a little bit of interest
in a way. So it's a just
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of your I know, friends of
mine from the UK loved the concept because
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it's very very old school and traditional
and they're in their realm. But for
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Americans, we typically don't like adjustments
unless you're gonna give us some more crashes
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basically, So uh, it's just
it's I think people just have to get
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used to it, because I mean, really the titles liman feature on NXC
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television on the in the States now
for about nine months, so it's not
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even a year old in the eyes
of the w B famous next match here
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is Elily dragon Off defeating Carmelo Hayes
to win the NXC Championsip Eyed Elia Doctor
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Trade Carmelo. Great physical match.
I thought this was the right move because
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Ely is a main event player in
NXT and could not afford another loss for
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the title. It also adds to
Carmelo and not being able to win without
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Trick and leave Bakersfield without the championship
while Trick had a title of his own
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previously. I would love to see
Carmelo Elia three happen in the near future,
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and the rivalry slast matches reminds me
of the Black and Gold era of
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NXC. Really enjoyable match here,
Doctor Trey Eliot Dragonoff is your new NXC
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champion. Ilia Dragonov is so polarizing
to me because I love Ilia Dragonov.
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But in my head I'm like,
it's great for Este, but then is
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he a main car main event guy? I mean he is like one hundred
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and eighty pounds. He's like the
Russian Darby Allen in a lot of ways.
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So uh the match himself, that
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I love, like I said,
I love watching Ilia wrestle because everything
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he does has intensity and purpose.
Carmelo's just so smooth. There's a nice
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contract contrast and styles and if they
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I just long term, does Ilia
like to me, the NXT nx
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T should be helping build your main
event stars, like the NFC Championship should
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be a priest cursor to being a
main event star on Raw or SmackDown.
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a main event kind of guy for Raw
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or SmackDown. Yeah, I don't
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fan for some time and I thought
this was the right move, and they're
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given the opportunity with the ball to
run with it. So he's the new
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NXC champ. We will see where
things go from here with the Mad Dragon
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of NXT. Then the main event
here, Becky Lynch defeats Tiffany Stratton in
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an extreme rules match to retain the
NXC Women's Championship. I had Becky Lynch
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Doctor Trey at Tiffany Stratton a good
match. Stratton continues to take big leaps
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forward in her inring abilities. I
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violence, toughness from Tiffany Stratton,
like a llah Randy Orton from his
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match with Cactus Jack back in two
thousand and three two thousand and four Backlash
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when he was breaking out, but
it was still a solid performance. Becky
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is really helping Tiffany elevate her game, and Tiffany is delivering great match Doctor
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Trey Becky Lynch wins. Yeah.
Sometimes I watch these matches and you go,
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wait, she hasn't been great against
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a legitimate main event star. Is
she getting better or is the star carrier
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this one? I actually went,
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she's actually stepping her game up.
I am still a little bit confused about
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the result, Like, what's the
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he was trying to help her,
unless she's just trying to help build everybody
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up and being But if she's still
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like she gets the AEW or Impact
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stay home after the shows. To
me, this is also like let's say
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we're like, Okay, Tiffany needs
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some you know, some some stooges, so to speak, and in her
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ranks, because when you have a
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opportunity for the heel to get the
win and not damage a babyface. And
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they didn't pull the trigger, So
good work by the ladies. Just a
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little confused by the booking results because
this was the chance to kind of take
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the belts off of Becky, put
it back on Tiffany, and give Tiffany
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legitimacy by saying, Hey, I'm
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nobody else on that roster could say. Addiction record, I went three and
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three, Doctor Trade, one and
five. Coming out of this pay per
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view, I was nineteen thirty five
Doctor Trey eighty five and forty event rating
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and match of the night. I
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six. My match of the night
was Carmela Hayes and Eely dragonoff Doctor Treyer.
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What say you yeah? How was
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thought it was a solid show.
Still, like just you know, the
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Tony d thing was weird. I'm
so a little confused by the trick Williams
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win. It was just kind of
like it was an odd booking show for
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me. So maybe that's why I'm
a little bit more down on it.
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But my match of the night was
Ilia and Carmelo. Just those guys have
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great chemistry. It's kind of watching
Drago and Apollo Creed fight, just without
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the death. I like that.
That's a good comparison. It's a really
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good rivalry and they have really good
matches. And again, like I said
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earlier on, it reminds me a
lot of that black and Gold era of
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NXT where you want to see more
from these two. Yeah, next night,
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aw Russell Dream Recap review Past Sunday
from the Climate Pledge Arena in Seattle,
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Washing. There was one, two, three, four pre show zero
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hour matches that we did not preview. Originally we did not predict either,
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So I'll just quickly mention them here, Doctor Trey, and if there's any
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that stood out to you that you
want to cover, when I get done
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quickly recapping the results, we can
talk about it because I have maybe one
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or two matches i'd bring up here. Sotoshi Kaji McKeith Lee Athena and Billy
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Starks defeated Shane Taylor, Lee Mariotti, Mercedes Martinez and Diamante. In an
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eight person tag team match, Claudieu
Casignoli defeated Josh Barnett, Lucasaurus defeated Nick
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Wayne and the Acclaimed, and Billy
Gunn defeated Shane Hast, Mikey Nichols and
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Bad Due Tito of the Mighty O'Neil
TMDK to retain the aw World Trios Championship.
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Any of those pre show matches you
wanted to bring up here and discuss
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anything that stood out to you,
Doctor Try all right, an eight person
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interjender match is god awful. Don't
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flow, It just doesn't flow.
The six man's hag. I really enjoyed
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that match. I forgot how entertaining
Shane Thorne or Shane which is yes,
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I just forget how entertaining he was, Like, yeah, he can be
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kind of charismatic and and goofy at
times. And I forgot how good TMDK
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is when they're attacked. Me adding
big bad dude Teeter that makes it was
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really cool. I haven't seen them
in such a I mean, god,
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this is what the early days of
Black and Gold when they were a tag
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teams and see them together at wrestled
Dream was pretty cool. And then the
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Lucasaurs Nick Wayne stuff is pretty interesting
giving how the ending of the show went.
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So those are the kind of things
that might takeaways. Yeah, I
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guess the one match that you did
not cover there in your little recap is
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I thought Claudia cast and only Josh
Barnett was an extremely fun chain wrestling match.
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I would go out of your way. If you haven't, go out
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of your way and watch that one. If you enjoyed chain wrestling, check
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how Claudia and Josh Barnett. But
the pre show matches, it's it's now
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an hour and a half pre show
for aw show. I mean it's it's
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basically a dynamite it's taking place nowadays
where you have like that many matches taking
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place before the show. Crazy thing
for me was I had never seen Josh
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Barnett wrestle. Yeah, I hadn't
either, and I enjoyed it. Yeah,
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And I had heard he was really
good, and then you got Moxley
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on commentary putting him over and everything
else. Like I thought that was actually
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the most enjoyable match on the pre
show. It's just one of these was
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like, it was just a really
good wrestling match, and with all the
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other things going on, it just
you just kind of go, oh,
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yeah, it was a really good
match. Just that one was weird.
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This thing was weird, and this
was weird. But that was a really
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good match. Yeah, I agree, that was a really good match on
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main card. Here, MJF representing
better than You Bebey defeats the Righteous Vincent
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and Dutch to retain the ROH World
Tag Team Championship in a two to one
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one handicap match. We both had
better than you beabey A getting the victory
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entertaining match. I hate to see
this loss come at the expense of an
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actual tag team with high upside and
the Righteous, but I feel like this
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payoff for the whole current MGF storyline
will be worth it. I do find
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salce and knowing that Ossie Open loss
last month at all and got rewarded a
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month later with an aw tag team
champion match later in that same night,
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entertaining match doc to trace MJFF wins
retains. Yeah, it was entertaining for
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the shenanigans in the match, like
the matchic stuff. I'm like, I
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mean really there were points in the
match where MJF Wight It's at John Cena
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mode. It was like super MJF. Maybe since I was I'm just a
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big fan of Dutch and Vincent in
the Righteous. I just think those guys
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are are really talented guys. I
just hate seeing a legitimate tag team lose
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in a two on one handicap match. And then just you know, I
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don't know, the body slam bit
the head of the ass thing was kind
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of funny, but it's just I
don't know, I would have wanted to
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finish, to be even more sneaky, like have him escape and he actually
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kind of I don't say, one
clean, but one decisively. So that's
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maybe that's my only thing. Because
especially I love MJF. He is only
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like five foot eight, so it's
just like he's a little guy doing Super
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Senior, which is a little weird
to me. Yeah, it was.
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It's it's sports entertaining, right,
Yeah, yeah, it was entertaining,
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but on a like you know,
the aw preaches like on how their high
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quality of matches, but then they'll
have the entertainment aspect too. It's like,
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Okay, are you wrestling or are
you entertainment because MJF is entertainment and
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then the rest of the show is
kind of wrestling. So I think there's
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a good I think there could be
a good mix of that. To be
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honest, I thought this was a
good way to open up the show with
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what they're doing. I just don't
like seeing at the hands of an actual
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tag team. Yeah, they don't
portray themselves as an entertainment company. They
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portray themselves as a wrestling company.
So that's the dichotomy with it is like,
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Okay, jf's entertainment. It's funny
because your top stars either entertaining guys
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or guys that came from the wrestling
entertainment company. Well, you can make
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case they began with entertainment, ended
with entertainment. There you go. Next
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match here, Eddie Kingston defeats Kati
Orshabauta to retain the ROH World Championship and
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njp W Strong open Weight Championship.
We both had Eddie Kingks again the victory
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solid Japanese style match fun watch between
Kanks and Shabbata great win. Telpailled Eddie
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as the ROH World Champion. Kingston
retains Actor Trey Yeah, and on was
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the end. I had not seen
Shebata other than on tape of seeing Sabata
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in the ring. I know he's
wrestling aw That's why he's a pure champion
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everything. I just somehow always missed
him. Very various any match, very
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very hard hitting match. And it
was also kid of the launch of how
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many abdominal stretch octopus holds can we
get in one card in one night.
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The next match is Chris Statlander defeating
Julia Hart to retain the AWTBS Championship.
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We both had stat Lard again the
victory. Stat Lander and Hart put on
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a great match. I said last
week when we were previewing this, how
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much Julia Hart has improved in the
ring, and it shows as I feel
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like she is breaking out right now. Julia Hart may also have the best
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top rope moonsalt in all of wrestling. Fun match here, Doctor Trey Statler
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Lander retains. Yeah. I watched
this match, and I don't know if
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I do. I compare young wrestlers
to other wrestlers, and Julia Hart I
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compared to Alexa Bliss because of the
gymnastics background and similar build and similar skill
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set, and then Statlanders just is
coming off more and more rear Ripley issue
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in a lot of ways, and
so much as match and like this is
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actually pretty good and pretty compelly.
The only thing I didn't like, like
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I thought the match was really great
for an aw women's match, is they
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kept typing up Julia's twenty eight match
win streak, and also the fact that
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stat Lander has been the person who's
beating her the last several times. I
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just kind of thought Julie would get
maybe a little bit more offense and and
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get a maybe a couple more near
falls. It seem like the time that
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she had the most offense was when
they were on the floor fighting. So
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that was my only takeaway from it. Like I just said, always Julie
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had a little bit more offense to
kind of create that threat. But for
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a women's match with two very young
women's wrestlers, was really really good.
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Yeah, it was a fun one. It was a really fun one.
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And it's not a match that I
figured would be on my radar as a
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match that would surprised me, and
it did. Statlander and Julie Hart was
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a lot of a lot of fun. Next match was the Young Bucks defeated
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the Guns Luca Brothers and Orange Cassidy
and Hook in a four way tag team
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match to win a future AW World
Tag Team CHAMPIONI match. I had Orange,
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Cassidy and Hook, Doctor Trey had
the Guns. Good match. I
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just think it would have been nice
to see another tag team not named the
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Young Bucks in in an AW Tach
Team Championship match. But it looks like
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AW wants up another FTR Bucks match
again soon, Doctor Tray the Bucks are
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the NORM one contenders again. Yeah, I mean this was a fun match,
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you know, got I mean,
other than the Ray Phoenix injury,
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Like, it was really really,
you know, pretty irritating. I'm a
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huge Guns fan, like those guys
have I have won may over. I
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mean, they are literally trying to
be all four members all like all five
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members of d X at one time. So I gotta get those guys credit.
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But I mean me, I would
have held off on, you know,
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setting up Bucks FTR four maybe a
little bit longer out the Guns still
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have unfinished business with him. You
could have gone loot your bros as well,
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But I mean I can't really go
wrong with FTR and the Bucks just
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because everybody's continue to watch because they
know that it's gonna be a damn good
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match. Next match is Swerve Strickland
defeating Hangman Adam Page. I had Swerved
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had Hangman, great match. I've
been so happy for the building success of
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Sturve Strickland since coming over to AW. He has put on some size,
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his in ring remains great, and
he has one of the most compelling characters
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on AW television. This was by
far the biggest win of his career thus
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far, and I'm really looking forward
to see how AW Cree have capitalized on
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this win for Swerve. Swerve Strickland
defeats the Hangman. If you had told
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me a year ago that Swerve strictly
would be a bigger star in AW than
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Keith Lee, I would have said, you're nuts. But that's where we're
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at right now. Like Swarve,
this was a fantastic match and had me
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into it. I loved the contrast
in Hangman kind of having to play the
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heel because they're here in Seattle,
Prince Nana as have fun watching him dance
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the entire the entire match and everything
else. Just a fantastic match. And
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then just the elevation of Swerve just
shows how much faith they have in him
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right now, because you don't give
victories or a former aw world champion very
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often if you're kind of the quote
unquote mid card guy, and Swerve got
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it done. So kudos those guys. It was. It was a damn
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damn good match. We did not
predict the next one here is Ricky Starks
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defeats Wheeler. You'd it was announced. I believe on collision, good match.
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Ricky Starks remains on fire. I
do love the Big Bill Ricky Starks
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pairing as it reminds me of an
HBK Diesel pairing. Ricky Stark's work wins
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again Doctor Trey and defeats Wheeler Da
so as Stark's a heel again ers you
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a baby face because I'm still confused
on what Blackpool Combat Club is, so
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I think they're back as babyfaces.
I can understand the confusion though, yes,
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okay, because there wasn't. It
wasn't really because even in the backstage
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segment you had kind of come came
off as a dick. So it's still
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a little confusing, but uh,
really good match. I love Moxley.
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Moxley on commentary. Saved Youda in
this match because he kept saying like,
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hey, this is Youa's first pay
per view match as singles match. I
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don't care if he wins or loses. It's all about building him up for
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five years from now. So it
was a way of Moxley saving the character
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of Wheeler DA in a losing effort
to Ricky Starks and I like Ricky,
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but I think he's got to put
on a little bit more size. He's
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got to get on the Sward Strickland
die. He's got to put on about
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twenty four pounds of muscle to do. It'll be a main eventor I actually
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have a note about Moxley on commentary
For the next match, here is Brian
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Daniel Danielson defeats Zach Saber Junior.
We both had Danielson get in the victory
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here. It was a technical wrestling
masterpiece that was expected between these two greats
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and they delivered. I hope Dragons
ZSJ do it again sometimes soon. Sidebar
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and this entire thing. Moxley surprisingly
great on commentary for both Starks and DA
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and Danielson ZSJ. But this match
was phenomenal. Doctor Treys. Danielson defeats
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ZSJ. I have a note on
commentary for this one as well, But
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yeah, fantastic match. It was
everything I thought it would be. I
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love Zach Saber Junior's blonde hair.
I don't know that's a recent thing or
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fairly since he left his last stable
there. It's it's like he went to
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the Cody Roads. He went to
the barbershop and said give me the Cody
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Roads and that's what they were like, Okay, yeah, we can tell
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you do that. So and I
love the pairy with TMDK because I'm a
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big fan of those guys. So
over like fantastic match. Commentary wise,
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if you're listening to commentary, is
are they setting up Nigel to potentially get
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back in during with Brian Dangleson,
Nigel has been pushing that he wants one
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more match with Danielson, and he's
been pushing that a lot on commentary.
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I would imagine it's happening because according
to reports and I think his own like
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Instagram, Nigel is training to become
a wrestler again at the very least,
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or to wrestle at the very least
put him put him as the mouthpiece for
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TMDK eight, you know, like
that at the very least on me.
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Well, if they're there regularly,
right, Yeah, so if they're gonna
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be around, put Nigel with them
or let you know, if Will Ospray's
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with Don Kallis slide Ozzie open over
them as well and just put them all
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together, like all the all the
Australians and British go to Nigel. That
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should be the rule. And I
could literally if you just took ex Caliber
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out of the broadcast move of that
one, I could literally just listen to
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Nigel and John Moxley go back and
forth. They were great. It was
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good. It was really freaking good. Yeah, commentary on this entire show
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overall, outside of Taz screw some
stuff up and Nigel calling them on it
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which actually made it entertaining. H
was really really good the entire night.
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So yeah, no, they they
were great. I love the aw commentary
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teams because they sound like they're having
like a lot of fun. Like they
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always cracked me up. The Taz
Shavanni excliber one always cracks me up.
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I just think it's it's very hard
to do because they keep changing out people.
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Yes, you know, your rotate
Savanni, Tazz and Jay Are.
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It's not easy to get in a
rhythm and for that going on, those
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guys did a fantastic job. I
mean it made leonary for what five and
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a half hours, So yes,
yes, it was Yeah. The don
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Colls family, Kenoso Get Takeshka Samy
of Arnwell, Osprey defeat Christ Jericho and
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the Golden Lead of Kenny Omegan Cooto
Obushi in a trios match. We both
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had the don Kal's family winning.
This match is really good until the finish
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when it took forever for the interference
spots, only for Don Cows to roll
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out of the ring in eyesight of
the ref and Osprey being able to hold
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off Coda and Omega while Takeshka was
doing nothing to preserve the pin to the
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very slow three count, which is
typically a reserve for injured refs, which
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Aubrey was not for the end,
ninety five percent of this match was great.
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The final five percent was not.
Don Kalle's Family wins. Doctor Trey.
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You know, for all the time
a couple of weeks ago about the
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the Mockley Phoenix missed three count spot, Aubrey Edwards is the worst referee in
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aw WHOA, she's she's got awful
like she like the rep's job is to
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not be noticeable, and she is. In every match she does something,
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whether it's like in this match,
the kicking the with the when they're doing
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the four way stretch on the abdominal
stretch with the Don Couch family and she
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runs in to kick the arm and
then all that stuff. She's always noticeable,
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like she's just not good. I
mean, the at least the women
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in it WW the two Feopble reference
they have there don't typically get involved.
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So but this match that he said, I love, this match I thought
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was really good, really, you
know, top notch, but yeah,
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the finishes weird and I literally,
as will Osprey is holding two grown men
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with one arm each from getting into
the ring, I went, well,
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I did tell Jeff about four years
ago, if will Osprey put on about
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thirty pounds of muscle, he'd be
a main event guy. And will Osprey's
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just showing off. They put on
thirty pounds of muscle. Takeshka. Man,
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he's he's he can be so good, but he's still green. And
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you see it in a couple of
spots in that match where right there Ospra
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has to cover for him not being
there to hold a leg or you know,
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the finish, when he's just kind
of hunched over in the corner waiting
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for something to happen, waiting for
Cal's interfere. It's just like, you
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know, he's gonna be a he's
gonna be a huge star. The guy's
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gonna be a potential. You know, if he goes back to New Japan,
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he'll be a new Japan heavyweight champion. But right now he's still a
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little raw, and when you got
everybody else in there, it kind of
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shows out. But sorry, the
matter with me was saman Gavar. Saman
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Gavar is having so much fun fighting
Chris Jericho, Like you just feel how
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much joy he was having. It's
a shame he got apparently concussed during that
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match, but even celebrating wise,
you couldn't sell he was concussed because he
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was still making jokes and everything else. So just top match match is a
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little clunky on the finish. Next
rat year was FTR defeating Ossi Open and
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retaining aw World Tag Team Championship.
Both an FTR again the victory great tag
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match. I thought This was a
statement match for OSSI Open to the American
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audience at they are a great tag
team, as they seem to lead most
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of the match and looked poised to
beat FTR. I've got your performance from
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Mark Davis of OSSI Open battleing through
with a broken wrist. The super Shadow
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00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:14.480
machine was a cool spot FTR retain
over OSSI Open Doctor Try Yeah, but
436
00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:17.960
then they just did a super shadow
machine during the Young Bucks match. Did
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they do that all in? Probably? Yeah, I'm pretty sure they did
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it all in because I think you're
right yeap, So here's a cool spot,
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Like I love the match, but
then when it came to the fish,
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I'm like, wait, did I
just kind of see this match it
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all in? Like it was almost
copy and paste for a lot of a
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lot of the spots for FTR Ozie
Open look great, which tells me that
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FTR is very a very giving tag
team that they'll whoever they're the ring with,
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they're gonna make them look like stars. So great perforce for Ossie Open.
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I hope you know, Mark Davis
gets back soon because it just sucks
446
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we have a breakout match and then
you break your wrists because then you might
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get shows the pretty deadly syndrome,
you know, like you're getting a push
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00:29:56.799 --> 00:29:59.440
and then one guy gets injured and
then you're just off TV for a while.
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So up an FDR when they were
back in wa Yeah. So but
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for those guys, I mean,
it was a great match. I just
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to me once again, like it's
Aussie Open doing FTR shadow Regine. Well,
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we just saw that the Young Bucks
match. There's a lot of the
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similarity between this match and the Young
Bucks match. But that match was fantastic.
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So if you're on copy something that's
fantastic, it's probably gonna be fantastic
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again. So there you go.
Next match was Christian Cage defeating Darby Allen
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in a two out of three falls
match to retain the aw t NT Championship.
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We both had Christian Cage getting the
victory. Very entertaining, compelling match.
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The falls made a ton of sense
that they and they played to each
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wrestaureran on how they were executed,
from Darby using the turtleneck to outsmart Christian,
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to Christian's count out victory, and
then finally Nick Wayne turning on Darby
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for the final three. It was
an all around great match and the finish
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of Adam Edge Copeland making his AW
debut was really well executed, but more
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on him on a bit in a
bit here, doctor Trey, your thoughts
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here. Christian Cage defeats Darby to
retain you forget sometimes how good Christian Cage
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can beat her right match, and
I'm like, man, like, this
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is so much of his time in
WW mix with what he wants in you
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in a ring like typical traditional wretches. The wrestling matches don't get the turtle
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00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:17.519
deck spots, you know, but
it made sense in this avenue. You
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know, you don't get that.
The brutality of those moves on the steps.
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I'm like, like, dark,
I swear to guy like Christian was
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gonna do that soup plexit, went
this might kill Darby, let me go
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do it on the floor, and
then the weird body slam on it.
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I was like, that's him protecting
Darby and not taking us their wrists.
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Like this match was was really really
good. The Nick Wayne turned I think,
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I like I saw it, I
kind of saw it coming, but
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I'm kind of over Nick Wayne's mom. I don't know what it is,
477
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:52.480
Like this just too of her in
that match, like she had more screen
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time than almost anybody else in that
match. Just seemed like I was like,
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somebody just loves that blondheaded woman over
there in the corner. Okay,
480
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but you know it made sense for
the finish. You saw her being upset
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with Nick turning on her and turning
on Derby and siding with Christian Cage.
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I'll tink right now, I'm stealing
the Patriarch gimmick. I don't know if
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that's gonna be his actual nickname that
Nigel gave him to that metch, but
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if not, I'm taking it.
I will I will call myself the patriarch
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and the daddy of every wrestling company
I work for ever in the future again.
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So I'm totally stealing that. But
just a really really good, fun,
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entertaining match real quick, before we
give Masha the Knight an event rate
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and recap pay for reprediction record.
Just want to add this because I don't
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know how else we're gonna address this, but Doctor Trey missed opportunity by aw
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not addressing why Nick Wayne did what
he did on Wednesday's Dynamite. I think
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so a little bit like they should
have done the little like Cage in the
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ring Nick within there explaining what he
did. Give a little more. I
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mean, I know on commentary they
try to explain it how like Darby trained
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at his dad's school and Nick grew
up watching Derby in there, and they
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tried to allude to, you know, Christian being the father figure now for
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Nick with him not having one.
I know they try to cover, but
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it'd be nice to hear from the
horse's mouth and give a little more depth,
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even if it's just Christian doing it
for him. You know, to
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me, this is really reminiscent of
you know, I think I told you
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off air like last week about this
where I kind of felt like Nick would
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turn because Christian Cageon needed a new
jungle boy. You know, you need
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that young guy to kind of mold
into your own image. And by god,
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Nick Wayne could fit the Christian character
to a t if this is the
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career path he wants to go.
Hopefully, they addressed it on Rampage or
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Collision, so they still have a
lot of programming to do this, but
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they did not immediately address it.
On Wednesday, Dynamite paperbreew prediction record for
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a W. Russell Dream I went
eight and one Doctor Tree went seven to
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two. Coming out of this pay
per view, I'm at ninety eight thirty
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six Doc to Train ninety two and
forty two Match of the night in event
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rating, I gave Wrussell Dream a
four point one, very very enjoyable show,
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and I gave my Match the Night
to Danielson and Zach Saber Junior.
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I was at a four point too. This is actually my one of my
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more favorite AW papers. There really
wasn't a outside of the pre show.
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There really wasn't a clunker match on
here. And maybe it's because almost every
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00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:19.920
single match featured a former ww guy
leading the match in some way outside But
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my match of the night, my
surprise you. I gave it to Swerve
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and Adam Page, Like, I
just really loved that match, and and
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can we get all the Adams onto
one tag team and just call him like
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00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:35.280
the Adam Smashers or you know,
the three man Adams or something of that
520
00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:37.719
coming in. Whether there's Cole Copeland
Page, Am I missing any of the
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other Adams, Ali, Alex Abrahontes, Yeah he's not. He's not an
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Adam though, but we just Adam
because he's an Alex. Oh, okay,
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just changed his name to Adam Adam
Abrahontes after this, there's a lot
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of there's a lot of Adams in
this company right now, and Alex Marvaz
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Ah yeah, and then or you
do Brian Cage and Christian Cage. True.
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True. If this was WWA,
they would not be liking this right
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now. So there you go.
Actually that fits, Doctor Tray. This
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was your highest rated AW show so
far this year. Sometimes I pay attention
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to what we do here. Here
you go, Yeah, highest rated awshow.
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It was a very, very solid, good show from all Elite Wrestling
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this past Sunday night. The big
news coming out of the show, Doctor
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Trey was the debut of Adam Edge
Copeland. We talked about this a couple
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of weeks back after Adam Copeland,
It's gonna be weird saying this now had
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00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:44.800
his final match in w again Seamous
on SmackDown, celebrating twenty five years.
535
00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:49.239
There's a lot of rumors in reports
suggesting that he was on his way to
536
00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:52.360
awwfelt he was on his way to
AWAW felt he was on his way to
537
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:57.559
AW. We discussed it at the
time. We were not in favor of
538
00:35:57.559 --> 00:36:01.320
the idea. We felt that Adam
Copeland was a guy edge needed to stay
539
00:36:01.320 --> 00:36:10.199
in wa well with one appearance and
then watching the post media scrum, the
540
00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:15.840
post show media scrum, reading a
couple of interviews he's done, watching some
541
00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:22.159
more videos exclusives, and reading his
tweets. This was the right move for
542
00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:28.920
Adam Copeland. I am not a
person who is a tribalistic fan of wrestling
543
00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:31.559
where I'm on team WE I hate
AW, or I'm on team AW and
544
00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:37.880
I hate WE. I like both
companies equally. I do think that there
545
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:42.199
are some wrestlers that are just AW
stars and WE stars, and they should
546
00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:45.239
have remained with those companies. I
did think that Adam Copeland was one of
547
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:50.320
those people. I am wrong.
You hear what he had to say.
548
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:53.280
He has nothing but amblicable and nice
things to say about his time in WE.
549
00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:59.840
He felt that he and w WE
had outgrown one another creatively, that
550
00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:06.000
AW spoke to him more, and
it gave him an opportunity to wrestle with
551
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:08.440
his friends and be with people that
he has never wrestled with. Have a
552
00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:15.239
blank canvas and whenever you hear Adam
Colplan speak like it's legitimate, it's authentic,
553
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:20.199
and it's just rejuvenating to hear,
because you don't hear many people say
554
00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:24.199
that, and his radiation on the
screen of how exciting it was was that
555
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:29.039
he was really really spoke to me
as a fan, and you can't do
556
00:37:29.119 --> 00:37:32.000
nothing more than just be excited and
happy for him, Doctor Trey. And
557
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:38.519
I mean, I think I've always
kind of underappreciated Edge as a whole.
558
00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:43.320
I've never been a huge Edge guy, But the more I've seen him over
559
00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:45.960
these last couple of years, you
really start to appreciate him, especially being
560
00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:51.039
the fact that he was away for
almost ten years. I'm super excited for
561
00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:54.119
him, Doctor Trey. I think
this was a great pickup for AW.
562
00:37:54.960 --> 00:38:01.000
It is a pickup that can fill
the void of what CM punk was potentially
563
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:07.480
supposed to do with AW and and
b uh somebody that can can be a
564
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:13.039
leader in a locker room and be
a sounding board for the company and also
565
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:16.159
represented proudly on television each week.
This, to me, is is the
566
00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:22.280
perfect move for both AW and Adam
Copeland. Adam Copeland is all elite doctor
567
00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:27.800
try Yeah, So like from an
AW perspective, it's a great move.
568
00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:31.639
It immediately fills the CM punk boy
and you're filling it with somebody who I
569
00:38:31.639 --> 00:38:36.679
have never heard anybody really say a
bad word about Edge. No, it
570
00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:38.719
all my years of wrestling, you
know, and fandom and then being in
571
00:38:38.760 --> 00:38:42.639
the business a little bit like,
No, he's ever had a bad word
572
00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:46.159
to say. I mean literally,
like there are other there Edge and Christian's
573
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:51.079
best other best friend of sind body
who comes to Rocket City quite frequently,
574
00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:54.719
and I mean, you've never heard
a bad thing about those guys. Edge
575
00:38:54.760 --> 00:39:00.599
is the consummate professional, Like he
understands you don't Burnbridge hell, you know,
576
00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:04.760
when he's sixty five, he may
want that WW Legends deal. So
577
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:07.920
you don't say anything bad. You
don't say anything bad about the burn Bridges.
578
00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:12.480
From a personal aspect for Adam Copeland, it's a great move. Like
579
00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:15.400
we just said, Christian Cage is
like, you know, lifelong best friend
580
00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:22.840
FTR are his best friends. Uh. Like I was laughing about it as
581
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:23.840
I watched the show, because you
know, you and I were talking about
582
00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:27.719
like CMFTR when Pug was I'm like, okay, cool. Now we get
583
00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:30.559
rated FTR or ft rated R,
like we get some kind of combination of
584
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:35.760
that. That'll be fun. Yeah, getting to work with Jericho and Omega,
585
00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:39.239
all these guys that, all these
Canadians you know that he's either been
586
00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:44.039
friends with, been into business with, or helped kind of mold, you
587
00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:49.079
know, is great for him.
I'm not entirely sold on AW bookings,
588
00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:51.920
so I always say this, I'm
cautious. This is one of our great
589
00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:57.800
catchphrases here. I'm cautiously optimistic about
how they book edge in AW. Like
590
00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:01.119
some of the people have come over
WWE that we were super excited about,
591
00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:05.119
thought they'd get a great opportunity,
have kind of fallen by the wayside,
592
00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:09.119
and then we get other people that
shine. I'm causually optimistic that he'll get
593
00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:15.199
a great push, that he'll get
a great run. God knows, there's
594
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:17.599
seventy five titles in AW, so
he'll probably have one within three weeks.
595
00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:22.960
But from a personal level, which
is what wrestling really does come down to,
596
00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:28.480
this is the best move for him
personally, for his career and for
597
00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:34.000
the next you know, like he
said, for eight twelve years, for
598
00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:36.679
as long as he wants to be
wrestling, this is the best spot for
599
00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:40.360
him. I'm with you. I
thought the same thing there. It's creatively
600
00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:45.000
with AW. It can be hit
or missed sometimes they are hitting on all
601
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:46.519
strides and it's a lot of fun, and then there's times where it's like,
602
00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:51.679
man, they've kind of forgotten about
this angle in the storyline. I
603
00:40:51.679 --> 00:40:53.880
guess the saving grace here, Doctor
Trey is and correct me if I'm wrong
604
00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:58.320
if you feel otherwise. When it
comes to AW Creative right now, he
605
00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:04.159
is injecting himself into to what is, in my opinion, probably the number
606
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:07.679
one best storyline in AW right now
with Christian Cage, which is or as
607
00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:12.239
Nick Wayne Darby Alenstin whoever like this
is to me, I think this is
608
00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:15.360
some of the best stuff they're doing. I think it has surpassed the MJF
609
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:21.360
Adam Cole stuff because of Adam Cole's
injury. But I would say that the
610
00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:23.840
saving grace here is, while I
agree with you on the AW Creative Edge,
611
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:30.599
is entering into maybe the best creative
storyline in all lead wrestling right now.
612
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:36.079
Uh. I will say, yes, the Adamical injury dampened the better
613
00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:40.320
than You Babe storyline. I think
we're for guys like you and me.
614
00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:47.280
The interjecting himself into the Cage derby
Nick Wayne storyline is great because we have
615
00:41:47.360 --> 00:41:52.559
history like you know, if Edge
and Christian Cage are working together, it's
616
00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:57.719
going to be good because they've got
twenty years of proof that it'll be good
617
00:41:57.760 --> 00:41:59.960
and it'll be entertaining. I mean, hell, we can go back.
618
00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:02.800
I can. Is the Edge Christian
show still around that we can watch on
619
00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:06.599
Peacock, you know, I think
it is. That is such an underrated,
620
00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:09.239
amazing show on the network. But
just the fact that you can go
621
00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:14.960
see their comedic timing and how well
everybody else played off of them and went
622
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:19.559
along with their stuff, and Edge
lends instant credibility to any storyline if he
623
00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:23.320
goes to two. Like if if
MGVIND walked out and said, hey,
624
00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:28.360
I got somebody to night to help
me since Adam Cole's out and Edge had
625
00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:32.280
come out to be mjf's partner in
that match against the Righteous and interjected himself
626
00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:36.280
into the storyline with MGF and Adam
Cole. You and I've been like,
627
00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:38.400
oh my god, that's it,
Adam Adam Copeland, mgf's a dream match,
628
00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:43.039
Adam Copland, Adam Cole, that's
a dream match. We probably would
629
00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:47.039
have felt very similar, but the
fact that it's Adam Copeland and Christian Cage,
630
00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:52.159
you get that extra layer of credibility
built onto it to even hype it
631
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:57.239
up even more. I thought there
was an interesting point made by Edge resa
632
00:42:57.320 --> 00:43:00.400
they had outgrown one another he and
w w WA. Do you do you
633
00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:06.199
agree with that? Because when you
look back at the creative for Edge,
634
00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:12.400
since he's come back right, very
intermittent here and there, comes off like
635
00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:15.719
a part time star because he was
booked that way and his contract, I'm
636
00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:20.320
guessing was that way at a certain
amount of dates, and then he wants
637
00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:22.760
to go to aw and work a
full time schedule, which is kind of
638
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:24.800
strange because it's like, okay to
them, why didn't you do that?
639
00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:30.639
In w WA? Is he right? Do you think did he and w
640
00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:35.440
WE outgrow one another? Because I
feel like they kind of have taken him
641
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:39.039
for granted ever since Wrestle Many thirty
eight or Wrestle at thirty nine closed out
642
00:43:39.199 --> 00:43:43.039
back in his match of the Hell
of Sell match with with Finn Ball,
643
00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:45.599
or maybe they knew he was on
his way out. I just felt like
644
00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:47.920
it was it was a weird ending
and maybe weird creative for some time with
645
00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:52.639
Edge. I think on one hand, they looked at it and went,
646
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:58.000
we've had ed and Rowan reigns.
We've had Edge and seth Rawlins, We've
647
00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:02.000
had Edge and Finn Balor, We've
had Edge and Randy Orton. There maybe
648
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:08.519
in their minds there wasn't enough people
deserving of the EDGE rub, so to
649
00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:13.000
speak. And we've seen this with
We saw it with Page, we saw
650
00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:16.199
with Daniel Bryan. With the people
who are coming back from like long term
651
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:21.199
injuries, they don't put them on
a full time schedule. They do put
652
00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:23.719
them on a part time or not
at all type schedule, and then when
653
00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:30.199
they go to AW, they wrestle
way more frequently. So I think Edge's
654
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:36.519
limited usage in WW is more health
related and the W doctor is kind of
655
00:44:36.559 --> 00:44:39.920
airing on the side of safety.
I guess I don't want to say safety
656
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:44.480
beause that makes it sound like AW
is not safe, but let's wear and
657
00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:49.679
tear and kind of kind of like
in the NBA where Lebron will take four
658
00:44:49.800 --> 00:44:52.559
nights off to come back and play
a big game, you know on the
659
00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:55.360
weekend, you know you want to
save him for the playoffs. I kind
660
00:44:55.360 --> 00:44:58.800
of feel like W did that with
Edge, where they were saving him for
661
00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:04.159
the big sp and using even those
roles where AW can look at and go,
662
00:45:04.239 --> 00:45:07.480
Hey, we can put you on
Dynamite Collision. If you want to
663
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:09.239
be on Rampage, We'll put you
on Rampage. Hell if we stop another
664
00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:14.719
YouTube show, we'll put you on
there. Like they're going to maximize on
665
00:45:14.920 --> 00:45:19.000
the value that Adam Copeland brings.
Where WB has so much value built in,
666
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:24.599
they don't need an Adam Copeland where
I think AW given the cmpunk situation,
667
00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:30.639
desperately needed a guy of Adam Copeland's
name value to bring in. So
668
00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:35.480
will this be successful? Doctor Trey
right, that's stand all be all here?
669
00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:40.079
Is this going to be a successful
new relationship for both Adam Copeland and
670
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:44.719
Ali Rustling? I think it is. I love this move, to be
671
00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:46.800
honest with you. I think it's
a great move also just and like we
672
00:45:46.800 --> 00:45:53.480
talked about earlier. To me,
it's the professionalism and the mindset that Adam
673
00:45:53.519 --> 00:45:59.159
Copeland has where everybody that roster's gonna
love the guy. Like like I said,
674
00:45:59.320 --> 00:46:04.800
you never heard anybody say a bad
thing about Adam Copeland in all that
675
00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:08.760
time in WWE, where he can
come in and he can fit in with
676
00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:14.639
anybody on this rostery He's got you
know, for all the X we guys.
677
00:46:14.679 --> 00:46:17.199
He's got store backstorylines built in for
all the young guys. It's similar
678
00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:21.400
to what they were going to see
him punk. You know, he can
679
00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:24.239
fit across all the boards. And
the other thing is he's another great recruiter.
680
00:46:24.239 --> 00:46:28.760
We heard about Cody recruiting and Jade
Cargill. You know, if if
681
00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:31.880
somebody's contracts up a WW and you
get a call from Edge, who was
682
00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:35.880
just there, why would you not
pick up that phone call and listen?
683
00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:38.159
So this is kind of like,
I don't want to say it's it's reminiscent
684
00:46:38.199 --> 00:46:40.480
of the Monday Night Wars, but
it's a little bit tipped for Ted.
685
00:46:40.519 --> 00:46:44.960
Hey, we took Cody and Jade. You guys took you know, Brian
686
00:46:45.079 --> 00:46:49.199
and Uh and Edge from us.
They took they took a lot from w
687
00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:54.000
to be honest, that's true.
Adam Coles, Oh yeah, I mean
688
00:46:54.039 --> 00:46:58.119
you can run down the list,
but I mean it's a great I mean
689
00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:01.000
to counter I mean the most too
recent ones have been you know, Jade
690
00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:06.440
and Cody. This is a great
counter for Jade and Cody. I was
691
00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:08.840
recently just thinking about that. We'll
get to preview and w fast line preview
692
00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:14.480
predictions. Hem romentarily. I was
just thinking recently, like I was watching
693
00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:20.639
Dynamite and it was that opening segment
with with Renee, Omega, Jericho and
694
00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:23.639
Edge, and I'm sitting there and
I'm like, and I thought this the
695
00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:28.000
night before too, when I was
listening to Nigel on commentary. There are
696
00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:31.920
so many people that w we have
let walk that are so talented and it
697
00:47:31.960 --> 00:47:36.519
makes you really scratch your head because
I'm listening to Nigel do commentary and I'm
698
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:40.960
thinking to myself like why why was
he just you know, why wasn't he
699
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:45.920
elevated for NXC when it was him
Mari, ernardlo And and Beth Phoenix like
700
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:50.800
that was a really good commentary team, even Percy Percy Watson, Like why
701
00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:54.199
was he relegated to I think like
two of five Live at the end and
702
00:47:54.239 --> 00:47:58.639
maybe it was a little bit of
NXC level up? Why was this guy
703
00:47:58.679 --> 00:48:01.199
on Ron SmackDown? He's so good? Renee backstage, It's like, why
704
00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:07.800
why isn't she working the microphone in
raw or smack Down or hosting the show
705
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:13.239
for w A. All these talented
stars, Danielson, Adam Cole, Edge,
706
00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:16.599
like all these guys like what why, why would you leave w or
707
00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:21.119
why would w WE let you leave? But I think all those people have
708
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:24.519
made the right career decisions by going
all lead wrestling, And it just made
709
00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:28.039
me like scratching my head a little
bit. I had just like this moment
710
00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:30.679
of clarity on Sunday for a little
bit and then watching the show on Wednesday's
711
00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:34.920
time, and I'm like, there
are so many talented people that w was
712
00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:37.239
like, all right, we're ready
to move on from you that have been
713
00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:40.639
so much more successful now in all
lea wrestling. Swarre Strickland is another one,
714
00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:45.360
Like what Swarve Strickland has been one
of my favorite wrestlers this year's He's
715
00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:49.960
on the rise. There's so much
upside there, Like why why couldn't w
716
00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:52.559
W figure this out? I don't
know, just a weird, weird little
717
00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:55.360
thought that went through my head.
Doctor Trey Well as I've been watching AW
718
00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:59.920
last couple of days, but I
was like, man, WW really fun
719
00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:02.920
up with some of these guys and
girls. It to me is a little
720
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:07.360
bit of a you're a Northeastern guy. It's a little bit of Bill Belichick
721
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:09.960
mentality. In w W they'd rather
let a guy leave too early than too
722
00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:15.800
late. I'm also a Packers fan, so I'm used to that, I
723
00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:17.679
know, but it's a little bit
of like, hey, you know,
724
00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:22.840
do we hang on to these guys
and basically milk them for everything they have?
725
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:24.400
And we've seen them do that back
in the nineties and they kind of
726
00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:30.840
backfired. And I think Vince and
you know the other higher ups have just
727
00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:34.920
been conditioned to, hey, we're
you know, let's keep building on the
728
00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:37.280
future, keep building in the future, and then it ends up happening.
729
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:38.079
If you get a show, you're
like, crap, we got to bring
730
00:49:38.119 --> 00:49:43.000
in a Sena or a Lessner or
somebody like that, just because maybe the
731
00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:45.960
our younger guys don't have the name
value. But you know, with aw
732
00:49:46.039 --> 00:49:50.400
once again, it's a much You
also look at the travel schedule for some
733
00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:52.840
of the stuff with some of these
older guys, like, you know,
734
00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:55.960
could they keep up working three hundred
and twenty or three hundred days of year
735
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and actually I think he's probably down
about two fifty, but eight w works
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one hundred and twenty. You know, it's still a you know, half
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the schedule for this, you're roughly
the same amount of pay. You know,
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if you're an older guy, why
wouldn't you make the jump. And
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for all the successes that they these
guys have had, you know, we
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mentioned I mentioned the b show.
Keith Lee's on the pre show. You
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know, this is a guy that
you and I like. This Gid was
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a guy that was punching Roman Reigns
in the face at Survivor series just a
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couple of years ago. And we
all have to be a ban event star.
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And he's on the pre show of
AW had an inter gender eight man
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tag match. No Mirror on this
show, No Malachi Black on the show,
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now Idelo on this show. So
for all the successes we've had,
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we've also seen it, you know, like Robert Strong's in a great storyline,
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but Bobby Fish is already out of
the company, you know, like
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and Kyler Riley's been hurt for the
last year, it seems like. So
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for all the great successes, there
are still some people that can't find their
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way. So I think W takes
educated bets on what's somebody will do,
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and that is up to those guys
to either follow through and increase their value
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or kind of spread water and fall
by the wayside. Threw that W was
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right about them. Yeah, it's
strange. Yeah, there are some opposite
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are some downs, even like Tony
Storm recently, I saw her on television
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like Matt highly entertaining, but maybe
they need a company like AW do unlock
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that creativity. It's strange. It
makes you think a little bit. Some
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people do really well on the landscape, some people do really well in the
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AW landscape. Some people do really
well in both landscapes. I fully expect
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that Adam Edge Copeland will do very
well in All Lead Wrestling. It's a
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great signing, it's a great move. I'm very excited for Adam Copeland and
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really look forward to see this run
in All Lead wrestling. Let's wrap up
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this week's edition of the show with
the w W Fastlane preview predictions. It
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comes to us this Saturday from the
game Bridget Fieldhouse in Indianapolis, Indiana.
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First match here is the Judgment Day
Finn Balor and Damian Preese defending the Undisputed
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Tag Team Championship against Cody Rhodes and
Jay Usso I've got the Judgment Day retaining
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on this one, Doctor Trey,
what say you? Yeah, I've got
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the Judgment Day retaining to set up
the Survivor Series match we talked about a
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couple weeks ago. But wait,
do you only have five matches? I
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only have five matches? Yeah,
okay, I looked it up. I
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was like, I only see five
matches in the show. So going from
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a five and a half hour pay
per views to some basically you do in
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an hour and a half if you
really wanted. That's one thing here.
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Let's take a quick pause. Aw, if they're doing twelve shows a year
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or more, they have got to
lower the time on these cards. It's
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it's way too fucking long, Doctor
Trey. Well, I mean, then
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again, you can look at it. WW is basically running NXT and a
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pay per view every single month.
You're still kind of getting about the same
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amount of time. They're just splitting
it up over two weekends. Well,
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I mean NXC just ran the show
this past weekend, and then then our
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next show is in early December,
so I wouldn't say it's like every month.
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Yeah, but the Survivor Series is
the end of November, so it
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could be possible that you do Survivors
Series and nxts on back to back weekends.
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Again, are you ending the five
and a half hour a W pay
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per views? No? No,
No, I'm wishing they would break it
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up. Do too nice. If
you're gonna do six hours, at least
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do WrestleMania. Like we literally just
talked about Keith Lee in a pre SCIOW
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match that made no sense at all, Like, what are we doing?
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Just giving him a paycheck? Holler
holler, holler? All right, next
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match, you're l w O,
ray Masteriro Santos Escomar and maybe either Jacques
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Wild or Cruise Del Toro taken on
Bobby Lashley in the Street Profits. They
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haven't announced the third person for l
w O. I seem to think that
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this will be oh God, Dragon
Lee and n next. I just have
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that feeling, Doctor Trey, who
do you like in this one? Uh?
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Well, I'm taking the street prop
or the street business. Can I
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call them street business or the hurt
profits? What I like hurt profits?
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00:53:51.079 --> 00:53:53.840
I like the hurt profits. I'm
thinking this, guys, what is Carlito?
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Because good call? But uh how
about a great call because he's under
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contract? Yeah, because I keep
seeing them go, oh, it could
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be Cruise Del Toro. I'm like, like, really, that'd be a
801
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letdown if it's Cruise or uh no, no, no, you're right,
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this is the time to bring back
Carlito, who's reportedly under contract. I
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like that call, good call.
I've got Bobby Lashley in the street profits
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as well. Next match is the
triple Throat match for the WA Women's Championship
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EO Sky Defense against Oscar and Charlotte
Flair. I've got Io retaining Doctor Trey.
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This one's hard for me, like
I've literally I can. I literally
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start off this week thinking Charlotte's gonna
win, but I was like, no,
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she's not gonna break her dad's record
at fast Lane, and then I
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was with EO, and then I
was also with Oscar. So it's really
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hard because I like EO, but
I think, to me, EO and
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Bailey is the more compelling path.
But Bailey kind of set this match up,
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so you need her to cost EO
the title. So I'm gonna take
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00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:55.840
Oscar regaining this backdown win this championship. Oh interesting. Next match is john
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Seen in LA and I take it
on the blood Line Jimmy Usso and so
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Lit's co Doctor Trey. Who do
you like this one? I just don't
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see how you have l A Knight
and Johnson to lose this match because Roman's
817
00:55:08.559 --> 00:55:13.119
not in it, and this also
sets up tension with Romans Solo and Jimmy
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00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:15.119
if you want to go that route. So I'll take uh, Sina Knight
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Night, Sena Night moves that you
can't see me at night? Oh,
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I like you can't see night.
Yeah, I'm gonna take Johnson and l
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A Knight as well. Uh.
And then Seth Freaking Rollands takes on Shin
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to say knock amore in a last
man standing match for the World Heavyweight Championship.
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I've got Seth Freaking Rowlands retaining this
one. Doctor try yeah, over
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under on octopus holds or abdominal stretches
in this match, over under on those,
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00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:45.440
I will say at what, like, what are you making the mark?
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Or do you want me to make
the mark? I'll set it at
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two. Okay, I was gonna
say two and a half, So I'll
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take the over. Okay, I'm
gonna take the under on this one just
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because of the tie into a.
Ok because Dear, with the back injury,
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you think, yeah, I think
you'll get one good one, but
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I think you may get more backstabbage
of this mass abdominal stretches. I don't
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00:56:05.079 --> 00:56:07.239
know. I don't know if I
don't know if WW still likes to do
833
00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:10.280
abdominal stretches anymore. I don't know
that that was. I saw more abdominal
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stretches in one show at Wressell Dream
that I think I had seen in the
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entire year of professional wrestling prior.
So they should just call it Wressell Octopus
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00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:28.039
stretch Octopus Abdominal Dreams, Abdominal Dreams. Yes, I like that better.
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So we both have taken Seth frank
and ronalds on this one. Yeah,
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00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:34.000
taking Seth as well. All right, there you go, WWE fascinating.
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We will recap and review it on
next week's edition of sr TU. Would
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that said, let's get a couple
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and next thing you know, he's
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two nights. So there you go. There you go, support all the
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fast Laying and look back at everything
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For Doctor Trey Franklin, I am
Jeff back. Thank you for making
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it as part of your week.
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