AEW All In delivers & WWE Sunday Night's Main Event preview | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #864 – 9/3/26
On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show: -- We recap AEW All In as Will Ospreay finally reaches the mountaintop at Wembley, Mercedes Moné captures the Women's World Championship and Kofi Kingston & Austin Creed shock the wrestling world by...
On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:
-- We recap AEW All In as Will Ospreay finally reaches the mountaintop at Wembley, Mercedes Moné captures the Women's World Championship and Kofi Kingston & Austin Creed shock the wrestling world by debuting as The New Level!
-- We recap NXT Heatwave as Grayson Waller wins the NXT Championship, Myles Borne loses both of his titles and WWE continues positioning Zilla Fatu as one of NXT's biggest future stars!
-- Sami Zayn completely hijacks the WWE Championship picture again, leaving CM Punk without a clear next challenger and us wondering whether the story is getting better — or increasingly complicated!
-- Penta defeats Rey Fenix and earns Roman Reigns in Mexico City, but can WWE turn an expected loss into the biggest singles moment of Penta's career?
-- And we preview & predict WWE Sunday Night's Main Event as Cody Rhodes goes to war with Randy Orton and Oba Femi finally collides with Bron Breakker!
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It's still really a big damage in it!
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What up, ee-e-e-e!
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Welcome, everybody!
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Welcome to this week's a Disney Sto Rola show.
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Episode 864 for September 3rd, 2026.
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This is your AW All-In and NXT Feedwave,
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Recap and Review Edition of SRTU.
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I am on app to show I am Jeff Peck,
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joined every single week in my post along with Dr. Craig Franklin, Dr. Trey.
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Did we just see the changing of the guard in London
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in professional wrestling, my friend?
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Ooh, yeah, look, because I actually had a match with Mercedes-Monaid
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that I actually liked.
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I don't know where you're going with the whole changing of the guard,
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but, you know, it was...
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Jeff, it's going to be really hard for us to pick a pay-per-view PLE
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that is not an AW show this year for our event of the year.
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It's going to be really, really difficult because
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WWE's going to have to step there.
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I mean, Summer Slam was great, Russell Manie was okay,
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but that show was really hard, going to be pretty hard at the top.
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So, at the end of the year.
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We will preview, we'll recap and review AW All-In here in just a few moments.
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We will also preview and predict WWE Sunday night main event this Sunday
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on Peckock in Atlanta, GA.
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But let's get into a Dr. Trey.
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Let's talk about AW All-In, recap and review this past Sunday
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from Wembley Stadium in London, England.
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Let's go through the match results here.
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You had Swarth Strickland and the debuting new level,
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more on them in a bit.
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Kofi Kingston and Austin Creed defeating Hangman at a Page Bandito
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in Brody King, the Bang Bang Gang, the demand, the dogs,
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the deathwriters and the conglomeration in the AW Trios were let Royal.
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They now have won the AW World Trios Championship.
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Andrade El Ilo won the Casino Gauntlet match for a future AW World Championship
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opportunity.
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The Brawling Birds defeated Divine Dominion to win the AW Women's World
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Triathlon Championship.
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Darby Allen defeated Kevin Knight in a false count anywhere in match to win the TNT Championship.
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Cus it's go-cotted.
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If he had to call a Fletcher in Cunosca, Tikesh, you're going to triple-threat match
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to win the AW International Championship.
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John Moxley defeated Nigel McGinnis in the Continental Challenge Cup Final to retain
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the AW Championship.
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Adam Copeland, Christian Cage defeated Young Bucks to retain the AW World
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Triathlon Championship.
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Mercedes Monet defeated the WL-9 Gale to win the AW Women's World Championship.
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Joe Laspert defeated Kenny Omega to win the AW World Championship.
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And then some other all-in notes that came out from the buy-in, Persephone defeated Maya
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World on the buy-in to win the TBS Championship after a mass Brit Baker interfered.
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Brit Baker revealing herself and made her AW return for the first time in nearly two years.
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Dr. Trey, last week I wasn't sold on the AW Go Home Show on Dynamite.
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I thought the all-in card looked great, but Dynamite didn't make AW's biggest show of
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the year, fearless, urgent as it should have.
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And then, as you pointed out, Sunday happened.
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And the actual event delivered a lot of the moments the building was missing.
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The build was missing.
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Will Osprey finally surpass Kenny Omega became AW World Champion in his home country.
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Mercedes Monet finally captured the AW Women's World Championship.
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Kofi Kingston and Osprey made their AW debut as the new level and immediately won championships
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along, I guess.
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Big S, Worf Strickland.
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And I mentioned before, Brit Baker returning to our reality regain the TNT Championship.
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There's a lot of change coming out of Wembley.
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But the biggest stories.
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Will Osprey finally does it.
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We spent weeks talking about this rivalry being about more than who could have the better
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match.
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Osprey needed to prove he had finally surpassed Kenny and at Wembley stating with his family
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in his home country behind him, he finally did exactly that.
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Now, Dynamite immediately moved him forward.
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Osprey declared himself the newest standard NAW now.
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He's bringing his own version of United Empire to the company and already has John Moxley
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waiting for him at all out in Chicago.
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That feels like AW clearly saying, "This is Will Osprey's company now."
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Then there's the other huge story, the new level.
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Kofi Kingston and Osprey showing up as Worf Strickland's mystery partners was a legitimate
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surprise they say that the contract took place and signed in less than 24 hours.
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Then AW didn't ease them in.
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They won the trio's titles immediately and just days later on Dynamite they successfully
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defended the championships against the Rascals.
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After spending essentially their entire career as the associate with WWE, this is going
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to take some getting used to, especially by calling them the new level.
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Their AW run immediately feels like something worth following.
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So the big questions coming out of all in Dr. Trey, I start with this one.
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Did all in successfully overcome the disappointing build and feel like AW's biggest show of the year?
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Yeah, I must say absolutely.
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There was not a bad match on that card.
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Even the buy-in show, I would say maybe the Myo World Persephone match was the worst one,
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but you got the Brit Baker reappearance even though I don't really know why Brit Baker hates
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Myo World.
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Maybe she just doesn't fit a family member?
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I don't know.
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But outside of that, I thought every match was good, every match told a story, every match
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had reason.
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Right now, this is my event of the year.
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So even with a lackluster dynamite heading into it, I think it overcame that obstacle and
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surpassed my expectations, which were pretty high going in.
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So I thought they delivered on all levels and a new level as well.
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So I really, really psyched about what AEW pulled off.
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Do you like that they kind of kept the move the show along because there was that, what
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was it, the curfew that they had in London?
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I think they needed to wrap it up around 10 o'clock, a London time.
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I mean, the show was just absolutely moving and there's been a lot of times that that show.
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I mean, the one in Texas went, I think, it's still going on.
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It feels like something's.
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Yes.
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Did they say why there was a curfew?
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I missed that part.
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I just say why?
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I'm not sure.
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I got to be honest with you.
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We looked at opposite to what the London hasn't.
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Good news.
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This can hear that when London's calling, they have a bedtime.
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Yeah.
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A bite by bite.
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Bloody hell.
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I need to sleep.
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Yeah.
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Like, oh, blind me.
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I'm bloody tired.
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I just put a head down or British accents ever.
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You know, I felt like the pacing of the show was really, really well done.
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I mean, even the transition from buying to main show kicking off with right at the time
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that, you know, Swerve and the new level are coming out, made sense.
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Nothing really felt, you know, I mean, maybe Moxley McGinnis at times felt like it was,
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you know, going a little longer dragging, but that's more they were telling the story
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of, you know, Nigel trying to overcome the ankle injury more than anything else.
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I mean, I thought the show flowed really well.
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It ended on a good note.
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Thank God because otherwise I still think that crowd would have rioted if Osprey had not
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one or somebody cashed in.
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But then again, if the show, if there was a riot, they immediately would have had to go
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to bed.
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So, I mean, the pacing of the show itself was really well done.
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And that has not been AEW's strong suit.
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I will say the last, about the last year, I feel like most of the
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pay-per-views have had a good flow to them and haven't had that law.
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This one just, I mean, it almost felt, this was how we're Jeff, it felt like a WWE production
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when it came to timing stuff out.
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Yeah, no, I totally agree with you.
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It certainly felt that way.
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I did a little bit of quick research here.
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Wembley Stadium has a standard 10, 30 PM curfew policy for Sundays and bank holidays.
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Organizers can request special extensions if event runs past the limits.
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So, you know, I mean, we were joking around about the length of all in, especially coming
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out of Texas last year, being a little bit of a concern.
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But that certainly wasn't the case.
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It had a very good pace to it.
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And I think if AEW is going to do four hour PLEs, pay-per-views, whatever they want to call
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them, then I think the pace that they found is reasonable.
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And that's been always something that's been my issue with the AEW shows.
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When they do the pay-per-views, is they stuffed a lot of stuff in there and there were times.
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And there's a lot of this on the buy-in stuff of matches that didn't need to be there at
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all.
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Just filler at that point and doesn't really do much for anyone or if it takes like a little
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minor storyline and just moves it a little bit further.
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I mean, I guess the biggest one to me is Persephone, defeating Maya World.
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There's a title change for Bakers in there from the buy-in standpoint.
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But I felt like the main card had a very, very good flow to it that I think it's just something
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that they could keep building off of.
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And I was thinking to myself last night when I was watching Dynamite, that it amazes me that
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there was this stretch for like two years ago where almost every big name was out and there
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was really no one marketable.
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And we've gone through this point in time in the past where Hangman Page was championed
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last year.
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I think this happened a lot during Swerves Championship run and maybe even Bryan Danielson Championship
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run, whether it was like no true contenders because everybody was out hurt.
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They've got everybody running right now.
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And I think that's one of the main reasons why AW has been so successful in 2026 is just
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overall health.
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No, absolutely.
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I mean, that run, and if you go back into history of our show back in like, I think it was
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like 2012, we had that same issue with WWE.
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We're like, everybody was hurt, the show was awful.
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I mean, right now, I mean Chris Jericho is about to feud with Nick Wayne.
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That's how much depth they have on the roster where you can take Chris Jericho who arguably
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should be upper mid card, mid event.
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And he's wrestling Nick Wayne, feud right now.
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I mean, having everybody available, we've talked about a show.
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At times you can look at AW's roster compared to WPEs, you're like, AW has more depth when
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everybody's helping.
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The problem was, you know, two years ago, everybody was hurt and that's why they played the Samoa
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Joe card or the John Moxley card or things like that.
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Just to get somebody on top that had name recognition to try to help elevate everybody else
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and it just didn't really work.
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Right now, you can take a chance on a first time world champion like Will Osprey knowing
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that the depth of challengers around him can help elevate his level too.
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So they're in a really, really good position right now.
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Yeah, they're in a very, very good position and it's exciting to see and it's great for
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wrestling fans.
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And I think the way that AW is performing as of late is helped elevate the WWE game just
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to throw that in there.
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But I want to keep the focus here still on AW.
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Next question I have for you, Dr. Trey, is Will Osprey now unquestionably the guy AW
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should build the company around moving forward because this is something we've seen with
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some of these champions.
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You could point to Swarth Strickland.
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You could point to Hangman Page.
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You could even point to MJF here on the heel side of things where these guys get the title
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finally after waiting for a long time for them to be crown champion, almost an uncrowned
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champion in the eyes of the fans.
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And then their runs kind of fall short a little bit like I think both Hangman Page's runs
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were not the best.
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I think MJF's run as like a heel into a baby face was not one of my favorites but as other
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runs as the heel champion were fantastic.
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And then we're kind of start stops with Swarth Strickland as well when he was champion
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and I always feel like Will Osprey falls into this bucket of guys that due to the AW launch
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have their stock has risen because of AW being another company in the United States.
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Yeah, I think the question is, you know, can AW book a baby face champion?
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And that's been one of those discussions you and I have had for the entirety of the show
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is that sometimes it's really hard to book a baby face champion and keep them a baby
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face and not have the crowd turn against them.
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You look at, you know, John Cena's run when he was on top and he's the champion and then
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the crowd starts turning against him because, oh, you're forcing him down our throat or,
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you know, even Cody in recent years like, oh, you're starting to force him down our
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throat.
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We want the heel turn to come up.
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You know, sometimes the chase is more fun than the capture.
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And we like seeing the baby faces overcome obstacles to achieve their goal to to finish
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the story, whatever you want to call it.
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But then what's the next chapter?
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What's the next evolution?
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You know, MJ, or excuse me, with Osprey right now, he has a lit me of challengers around
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him.
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But can you keep him as the centerpiece and keep fans interested?
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And sometimes that's going to rely on how good you book your challengers coming up.
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He on paper, he has all the tools to build a company around like he's young.
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He's athletic.
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He's well spoken.
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He has, he's great in the ring.
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You can do all those things with him.
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It's just, you know, can you build up credible threats to where it looks like he still might
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lose at any moment.
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Boom, he overcomes his odds and he keeps him fresh and he keeps him cutting edge and he keeps
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them the crowd buying into him and not turning against him down the line.
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And I think that's what kind of what happened to hangman in his runs is we'd love the hangman
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chase, but then once he was on top, it's kind of like, all right, now what?
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Swarve is the exception.
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Swarve, I think we all wanted more out of Swarves run than we got.
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But that might have been when those like, you know, test runs like, hey, can he be the top
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guy?
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It is going to be a question of like, is this a will Osprey test run to become the long
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term answer?
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Talk a bit about Mercedes Monet.
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You mentioned at the top of the show.
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I mean, you have been, uh, unquivvally in this history of this podcast, someone who is not
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been the biggest Mercedes Monet fan, but you were kind of given her semi flowers here.
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So this is the opportunity full discussion on that match.
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Her now expected run as AW world women's champion.
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Your thoughts on how everything took place at all in.
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And I guess any apologies you want to make.
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All apologizing.
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Well, I'll say this.
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One thing I've always said about Mercedes and Sasha is if she's in the ring with somebody
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she trusts or somebody she respects or, you know, is a friend.
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You know, she never had a bad match with Bailey.
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She never had a bad match with back to your Charlotte.
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It was always the other people like she would go down to their level.
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And we saw it in the TV S run like some of those matches against lesser quality opponents
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gave us bad matches.
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I think she loves Willow.
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I mean, she's never had a bad match with Willow so far.
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How could you not?
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How could you not, right?
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I mean, yeah.
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She's been on the line.
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I mean, Willow's fantastic.
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And it just sucks that, you know, her aunt's legit broken or whatever.
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Um, so I, I, I will say this.
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It was a great match.
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I'll give her a flowers for having a good match.
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I will give AW flowers because I think this is the better role for her is being on top
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of the division.
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I've said it the entire T of her time in AW like her being TBS champion made the TBS title
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feel more important than the women's title.
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And now when you have, you know, fecla jumping into the into the Friday to get her title back,
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you're like, oh, this can help elevate fecla even more as well.
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It is going to be interesting to see like how Mercedes is booked coming out of this because
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dynamite.
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It's going to be in book like a heel, but fecla is she becoming the anti hero or are they
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going to switch roles in there?
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But this is the right position for her to be in to actually elevate people because I mean,
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most fans, I think they care about the TBS title, but you're supposed to care more about
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the world title than the mid card title.
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So this is the best spot for her to be in to help elevate the rest of the division.
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Well, it's just funny because they, you know, they pointed out that the big three
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signings for 2024 in a W was will us break.
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Does it go caught him or say these Monet and at least two of the three of them were crowned
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world champions for the first time in a W on Sunday night and because it's go caught,
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I got a second run now as the international champion.
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So it's, I mean, certainly a W did not go and shotgun anything by by putting titles on
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these folks or world titles.
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I should say on these folks right away.
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I mean, I was making a case you got to put the world championship on will us break like
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right now and they did not do that.
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I would have figured what Sasha Banks Mercedes Monet was going to have a championship, the
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world champion to put on her waist within months of joining and that didn't happen.
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They put the TBS title on her and she helped elevate what's considered the quote secondary
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championship of the AW women's division.
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So from a looking standpoint, I mean, it was definitely slow burn.
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I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
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I think all three wrestlers are well established in the eyes of AWF a four.
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I would be surprised of AWF fans.
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I'm sure there is some.
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I would say maybe let's say 15 to 25% of them have no clue what new Japan is and did not
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pay a lick of attention.
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I guess a WWE over the last several years when Mercedes Monet was there.
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But yeah, I mean, that was something that was certainly pointed out coming out of all
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in was like, hey, the three big signings in 2024 and now champions here in 2026.
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The last thing that I'll bring up here, Dr. Trey, the new level Austin Creed, Austin
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Creed, Kofi Kingston, Kofi, debuting at AW.
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What do you think of everything?
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I mean, they certainly looked refreshed.
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They looked rejuvenated.
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They look happy.
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What were some of your takeaways to their debut at all in and then the match on Wednesday
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and also against the Rascals, the first title offense?
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Love.
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I love the name.
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At first, I was a little worried, or I recall a brand new morning or something.
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I didn't know where they were going to go.
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But I tied in to their gaming history with the new level and the press star thing.
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I thought the entrance was really well done.
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Kind of an homage to Double Dragon, throw a throwback video game.
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The music was great.
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Austin Creed looks fantastic.
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Like, that's the best I've ever seen him look.
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I've been following him since his TN eight days.
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Kofi looked happy and refreshed.
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Swarve looked like he was having fun.
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You can tell these guys are super tight.
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You know, off screen as well as on.
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I was a little surprised that not so much that none of them got eliminated, but like how
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quickly maybe the hangman, Brodito got eliminated, but maybe that's setting up for hangman in the
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box against them at some point, because that arguably is a dream match as well.
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But overall, and then getting their flowers later in the show when they came out and got
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in the ring with the other four tag teams, you're like, wow, this, this, I mean, I don't
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know if they can actually bring this up, but I go back to in the new day confronted edge
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and threaten to break his neck on Smackdown.
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I mean, that's, there's history there.
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And that's another potential dream match that fans never thought would happen would be
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co-op and cage against the new against the new level.
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I mean, that's a dream match.
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The bucks in the new level, if getting FTR and the new level in the ring, I mean, it's
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amazing how we can sometimes complain about eight of you for getting about tag team wrestling.
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And then all of a sudden they're like, nope, we got you covered, bro.
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I mean, the motor scene machine guns in the new day.
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I mean, these are all fantastic matchups that can happen.
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So right place, right time, right energy equals dollars for, for, you know, pay-per-view
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bikes.
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What do you think of the pair with Swarth overall?
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Right move, wrong move.
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I would like to see him just debut as a tag team, honestly.
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Yeah, I mean, to pay off the history of, I mean, if you can get me swarve in the new level
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against Hangman in the Box for the Trio's title, that might make me care about the Trio's
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titles.
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You know, that's an angle to play, but I think they're showing that like, hey, they're, they're
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friends, but they're not a group because you saw that later when, when creating coffee
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came out on their own to get in there with, in the ring with, you know, with the box and
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MCMG and FTR and everybody else.
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So I like the pairing because there is a natural connection.
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I mean, that was always the comparison with, um, hit row.
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Oh, god, I can't believe I remember the name hit row with hit row.
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They were supposed to be the next version of the new day and you get that payoff now where
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you got swarve with the new day or the new level.
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So it shows that there's history.
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There's a friendship there.
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Not everybody has to be a stable in a W, but if you're like, hey, this tag team is my
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friend and we want to win the titles.
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Hey, and then they can branch off and do their own thing individually as well or, you
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know, and or, you know, Kofi and Austin can go off and do the tag thing and swarve can do
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singles and then cycle back, cycle back up much like they've done with Omega and the box
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or hang man in the box.
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You can do the same thing here and it's always going to be fresh when it comes back up.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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No, um, I just think probably my only takeaway was just a little like to see him just come
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in as a tag team rather than a trio's for the time being.
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So we'll see how that pays plays out with Swarth because now you went from the most dangerous
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man and AW to the most dangerous dancer in AW like dangerous swain of the hips and AW.
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So there you go.
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AW all in recap interview.
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Feel free to chime in over at patreon.com/srtupodcasts.
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Moving on here, NXT Heat Wave, recap, review this past Sunday from the Bert Ogden Arena
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in Innsburg, Texas at follow the Triple A show.
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Jada Parker defeated Nadian submission match, the Vanity Project, defeated Miles Borne
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and Tavion Heights to win the NXT Titan Championship.
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Sorry, defeated Rentson Claire and Collie Armstrong and a winner take all match to win the WWE
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Women's Speed Championship and to unify it with her NXT Women's North American Championship
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that she retained.
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She later dropped on Tuesday's edition of NXT, the Speed Championship which also just
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randomly dropped the men's title as well.
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Jackson Drake defeated in just a backstage segment.
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Jackson Drake defeated Miles Borne to win the NXT North American Championship.
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Miles Borne takes out Tavion Heights post match.
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Clonnie Jordan Feet's Ken Elgrey to win the NXT Women's Championship, Grace and Waller
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defeats Tony D'Angelo, Cruz Montana and Zillow Fattu in a fatal four away match to win
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the NXT Championship which then takes us into our question from last week was whether
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WWE was already ready to put the NXT Championship on Zillow Fattu.
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Obviously they weren't but that didn't keep it on.
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They didn't keep it on Tony D'Angelo either.
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Grace and Waller walked out of Heat Wave as the NXT Champion and honestly that might
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have been the smartest option for WWE Dr. Trey.
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Why does Waller make sense?
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Because he gives NXT an established personality at the top while WWE continues developing Zillow
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without immediately putting the entire brand on his shoulder.
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He was protecting that fatal four away match, Zillow Fattu.
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Then he came back on Tuesday, won his first NXT singles match against Tristan Angels and
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rejected birthrights attempt to recruit him.
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So he's clearly still being positioned as something important.
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Then you've got Miles Bourne losing everything.
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He entered Heat Wave holding two championships, he left with zero.
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The fan needed a project took the tag titles Jackson Drake took the North American Championship.
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And then Bourne's frustration boiled over when he attacked Tavion Heights afterward.
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That's probably the other major story worth watching coming out of Heat Wave is now
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how do they book Miles Bourne moving forward.
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So some of the big questions coming out of Heat Wave Dr. Trey was putting the NXT Championship
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on Grayson Waller the right move instead of immediately going with Zillow Fattu?
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>> Yeah, because it gives Zillow something to chase.
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If you're trying to make Zillow Fattu a baby face, then the chase is where people get invested.
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We were just talking about earlier with Will Osprey.
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People love watching baby faces chase down the slimy heel.
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And even the way Grayson won the badge is that slimy heel character.
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I don't know about you.
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I feel like their positioning Grayson is their answer in NXT to MJF.
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>> He's always been that way.
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>> Yeah.
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>> But they're really leaning into it now.
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It's a smart move because here's a guy with main, he's been main roster level talent.
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He knows how to work a crowd, he knows how to work an audience.
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He's a guy that you can kind of build baby faces off of especially young baby faces.
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So it's the right move especially if you're trying to get the belt off Tony D.
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Because I like Tony D.
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I think Tony D's what we call the business a good hand.
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I just don't know if Tony D's a main event guy because the entire men's division has kind of felt flat with Tony D on top.
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And maybe Grayson is that spark to kind of light a fire under the men's division.
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So I think it was a smart move on their part to move the title over Grayson.
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>> The I totally agree and I think Grayson Wallars comparisons to MJF has been going on.
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To for me, at least as a fan since 2021 when he debuted in NXT and
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started having more of a heel character and it was very much straight from the hip.
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Believes what he says, controversial and what he says, pushes the envelope.
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And it's the type of heel that I love.
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00:26:30,460 --> 00:26:33,100
And it was surprising when they ended up pairing him with a new day and
450
00:26:33,100 --> 00:26:35,500
he would a little bit more comedy is like big G.
451
00:26:35,500 --> 00:26:37,340
Because I just didn't think that fit him.
452
00:26:37,340 --> 00:26:41,260
I do believe Grayson Wallars can be a guy in the main roster.
453
00:26:41,260 --> 00:26:47,460
And according to reports right now, I think Russell Votes said reported today that this is like being left that is a little bit of a reset.
454
00:26:47,460 --> 00:26:54,300
And that he can be serviceable and be successful on the main roster in the current role it is being given to him.
455
00:26:54,300 --> 00:27:02,540
You brought up Tony D'Angelo and that's interesting thing because there were some conflicting reports that there was a potential call up for him following heat wave.
456
00:27:02,540 --> 00:27:06,980
So he appeared on Tuesday's edition of heat wave that doesn't appear to be the case.
457
00:27:06,980 --> 00:27:12,980
And when you really take a step back when it comes to Tony D, Dr. Trey, he's been in NXT for five years now.
458
00:27:12,980 --> 00:27:17,060
He's got to be one of the longest tenured NXT wrestlers ever.
459
00:27:17,060 --> 00:27:21,740
He was in the 2.0 air, he had the gimmick of the dawn, he's completely shed to that away.
460
00:27:21,740 --> 00:27:26,140
I did to feel like if they were going to make a move, they were going to do it coming out of heat wave.
461
00:27:26,140 --> 00:27:28,580
That at least on the short term may not be the case.
462
00:27:28,580 --> 00:27:35,500
He's a guy to me that the only place I could see him fitting on the main roster right now is if you call them up and put him in the vision.
463
00:27:35,500 --> 00:27:37,620
I think he fits that mold of the vision.
464
00:27:37,620 --> 00:27:41,980
He's reportedly very, very good friends with Braun Breaker.
465
00:27:41,980 --> 00:27:43,860
That is the only place I could see him right now.
466
00:27:43,860 --> 00:27:51,020
Outside of that I have no idea because I think that they had a gimmick as the dawn of NXT where they could have easily elevated him to the main roster.
467
00:27:51,020 --> 00:27:55,580
So yeah, I mean it's kind of clouded for a guy that's very talented.
468
00:27:55,580 --> 00:27:58,100
He cuts good promos.
469
00:27:58,100 --> 00:28:03,060
I think he's a very strong in-ring worker, but he's just kind of dull at this point.
470
00:28:03,060 --> 00:28:10,140
They took a character that was really, really popular and I totally understand why they got rid of it because it was so cartoony at times.
471
00:28:10,140 --> 00:28:17,020
But they made him dull and boring, which I is sad to say because he gets in the ring and I don't find that whatsoever.
472
00:28:17,020 --> 00:28:25,540
I kind of liked the crow sting that he was rocking for a period of time when he made his return and the second incarnation on NXT.
473
00:28:25,540 --> 00:28:28,740
I thought that was something they could have worked on as well.
474
00:28:28,740 --> 00:28:31,660
So where he goes from here is a big one.
475
00:28:31,660 --> 00:28:34,140
And then the other one is Zillow Fought 2, Doctor Trey.
476
00:28:34,140 --> 00:28:36,500
Where does Zillow fit into the NXT Championship picture?
477
00:28:36,500 --> 00:28:40,700
He wasn't in that triple, that three on three match.
478
00:28:40,700 --> 00:28:49,620
They're going to be setting up for next week's, or this coming weeks NXT with a winning three member team then fights each other in triple threat to face Grayson Walters' next opponent.
479
00:28:49,620 --> 00:28:53,140
Zillow looks like he's going to be wrestling the birth right.
480
00:28:53,140 --> 00:28:56,940
There's some rumblings that he may be called up to the main roster sooner rather than later.
481
00:28:56,940 --> 00:28:59,940
I mean, does he fit into the NXT Championship picture at all?
482
00:28:59,940 --> 00:29:05,820
I mean, I think he does, but I think it's one of those things where like, hey, let's get his feet wet.
483
00:29:05,820 --> 00:29:08,260
Let's get him out here.
484
00:29:08,260 --> 00:29:10,580
Let the fans know he has a big deal.
485
00:29:10,580 --> 00:29:17,060
And in a sense, they actually listened to the crowd because he came out and he was saying he earned his spot.
486
00:29:17,060 --> 00:29:21,980
But then Robert Stone immediately puts him in a main event title match and everybody's like,
487
00:29:21,980 --> 00:29:23,940
look at the nepotism.
488
00:29:23,940 --> 00:29:27,380
Now he's literally fighting nepotism.
489
00:29:27,380 --> 00:29:33,220
So in a sense, it's a good spot for him to be in because they can always cycle in.
490
00:29:33,220 --> 00:29:38,220
And maybe in reality is they're trying to figure out who they want to move up and who they want to keep.
491
00:29:38,220 --> 00:29:44,660
I mean, you're looking at a roster now in NXT with Cruz Montana, former TNA World Champion,
492
00:29:44,660 --> 00:29:52,100
Nauraku, former New Japan World Champion, you got Zilla, you got Tony D, you got Grayson,
493
00:29:52,100 --> 00:29:55,820
you got a pretty stack and that's not even counting the young guys like Kiyano,
494
00:29:55,820 --> 00:29:57,820
Carver, some of the other ones we've seen.
495
00:29:57,820 --> 00:30:03,500
You've got a pretty stacked men's division, so maybe there are some call ups and that's kind of a Zilla,
496
00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:08,540
maybe in a holding pattern until they make some roster changes, I guess.
497
00:30:10,220 --> 00:30:15,980
But I think he got the credibility from being in the main event match and then putting him with a slimy,
498
00:30:15,980 --> 00:30:23,820
he-o-like Lexus King, who apparently is the worst negotiator in the history of wrestling where they,
499
00:30:23,820 --> 00:30:30,300
the one girl, Zarya, she gets to retire the belt and unifying all the way down in the one.
500
00:30:30,300 --> 00:30:36,140
And Robert Stone goes, hey, Lexus, by the way, we're retiring that belt, sorry about your luck yet.
501
00:30:36,140 --> 00:30:37,460
>> Zarya, you need to get socializing.
502
00:30:37,460 --> 00:30:38,980
>> Your future as well.
503
00:30:38,980 --> 00:30:41,940
>> Yeah, yeah, like Zarya retired his belt.
504
00:30:41,940 --> 00:30:43,020
You know what I'm saying?
505
00:30:43,020 --> 00:30:47,900
Like, he didn't get a title match out, instead he got super kicked in the face by Zilla Fah, too.
506
00:30:47,900 --> 00:30:50,500
Like horrible negotiating skills there, kid.
507
00:30:50,500 --> 00:30:57,540
But yeah, I think Zilla's one of those guys that you can kind of not temper him down,
508
00:30:57,540 --> 00:31:01,420
but slow it down a little bit, let him build up some in-ring work.
509
00:31:01,420 --> 00:31:05,020
I mean, the birthright for what you want to say about anybody in that group,
510
00:31:05,020 --> 00:31:09,060
they're all damn good in-ring wrestlers, every single one of the guys.
511
00:31:09,060 --> 00:31:14,820
Even stacks has gotten way better than he was early in his NXT career.
512
00:31:14,820 --> 00:31:22,060
But Charlie, Dems, he Lexus King, stacks, he's got some good people in the ring to work with,
513
00:31:22,060 --> 00:31:28,620
and develop his character more before either the back to the main event picture or up to the main roster.
514
00:31:28,620 --> 00:31:30,620
>> Yeah, it's an interesting time in NXT right now.
515
00:31:32,140 --> 00:31:38,180
There's so much change over that, at least on the men's side, that there's times I get really excited about it,
516
00:31:38,180 --> 00:31:39,820
and then there's times where I'm like, where the hell is this going?
517
00:31:39,820 --> 00:31:40,980
And that's kind of where it is right now.
518
00:31:40,980 --> 00:31:42,860
It's like where the hell is this going?
519
00:31:42,860 --> 00:31:45,100
It certainly did not see Grease and Waller being at the top of the chain,
520
00:31:45,100 --> 00:31:49,500
but we'll see where things go after Tuesday's edition of NXT.
521
00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:53,700
From one potential member in the bloodline in Zilla Fah, two Dr. Trey,
522
00:31:53,700 --> 00:31:57,020
we do switch gears now to a former member of the bloodline,
523
00:31:57,020 --> 00:32:01,900
and that is being once again, Sammy Zayn, who was potentially
524
00:32:01,900 --> 00:32:07,460
hijacked, CM Punk's title picture, because I want to know, is it getting better or
525
00:32:07,460 --> 00:32:12,740
messier coming out of another edition of SmackDown where Sammy Zayn is like losing his mind?
526
00:32:12,740 --> 00:32:18,340
So last week, Sammy Zayn snapped, this week he basically decided nobody gets CM Punk until he says so.
527
00:32:18,340 --> 00:32:22,900
You had Kevin Owens, gone through Finn Balor, they were supposed to determine Punk's next challenger on SmackDown.
528
00:32:22,900 --> 00:32:28,180
Instead, Sammy interfered, he pulled Balor out, he took out one referee, then another referee,
529
00:32:28,180 --> 00:32:34,300
Punk ended up coming down, Owens got involved, and by the end, Sammy was standing over everybody holding WWE Championship,
530
00:32:34,300 --> 00:32:36,500
as the triple threat ended without a winner.
531
00:32:36,500 --> 00:32:41,420
So instead of answering who Punk's next challenger is, WWE made the situation even more complicated.
532
00:32:41,420 --> 00:32:45,740
But I'm not sure that's necessarily a bad thing, because why is this working?
533
00:32:45,740 --> 00:32:49,780
Sammy's character now feels obsessed with the idea that Punk is something that belongs to him.
534
00:32:49,780 --> 00:32:53,300
Owens still wants another opportunity, gone through Balor, robbed of theirs.
535
00:32:53,300 --> 00:32:56,420
Suddenly, Punk has an entire group of challengers circling him, and
536
00:32:56,420 --> 00:33:03,500
Sammy feels less like another challenger, more like the person creating chaos around the entire championship picture on SmackDown.
537
00:33:03,500 --> 00:33:09,300
So my question for you, Dr. Trey, is Sammy Zayn making CM Punk's championship brain more compelling?
538
00:33:09,300 --> 00:33:12,700
Or is WWE starting to over complicate the title picture on SmackDown?
539
00:33:12,700 --> 00:33:19,340
>> No, I think it's making a way more compelling because the great thing about the Sammy character right now is,
540
00:33:19,340 --> 00:33:25,700
what his character is doing is completely believable and understandable.
541
00:33:25,700 --> 00:33:30,380
So we've sat here for months now, I'm like, man, Sammy's getting screwed left and right.
542
00:33:30,380 --> 00:33:32,820
And as a fan, you go, dude, I get that.
543
00:33:32,820 --> 00:33:37,180
I get his frustration, I get why he's so pissed off, I get his anger.
544
00:33:37,180 --> 00:33:43,740
And it almost makes you still want to root for him even though he's the villain in all of this, in a sense.
545
00:33:43,740 --> 00:33:45,900
So I think it makes it more compelling.
546
00:33:45,900 --> 00:33:51,740
And plus, it creates a title picture that is not involved, Cody Rhodes or Randy Orton, or
547
00:33:51,740 --> 00:33:53,940
the soon to be returning Drew McIntyre.
548
00:33:53,940 --> 00:34:00,780
So there's still three more guys, so in a sense, you're elevating the rest of the division by doing this storyline.
549
00:34:00,780 --> 00:34:08,620
So then when you cycle those three guys back into the picture, you've got eight guys who are legitimate world title getters.
550
00:34:08,620 --> 00:34:12,620
And that's not even counting Dave McIntyre because we don't know where his character's going yet.
551
00:34:12,620 --> 00:34:19,340
So you have eight to nine credible world title challengers on the SmackDown brand right now,
552
00:34:19,340 --> 00:34:22,100
because of the way the storylines being played out.
553
00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:25,620
So I asked this question last week, what's the biggest match coming out of this?
554
00:34:25,620 --> 00:34:30,580
Is it Punk versus Sammy, Punk versus Owens, Punk versus Sammy versus Owens?
555
00:34:30,580 --> 00:34:36,660
But we're going to take the same question for the last week and now we're going to throw in Gunther and Finn Balor as well, Dr. Trey.
556
00:34:36,660 --> 00:34:39,660
What's the best match coming out of this for CM Punk?
557
00:34:39,660 --> 00:34:43,740
Is it Punk versus one of these individuals in a triple threat, or is it all five?
558
00:34:43,740 --> 00:34:48,900
>> I'm still going to go back to the triple threat of Sammy Kevin and CM Punk.
559
00:34:48,900 --> 00:34:53,540
And that just be an honestly Jeff that is literally the bias of SRTU.
560
00:34:53,540 --> 00:34:57,140
Like those are my three favorite guys from the time we've been doing this show.
561
00:34:57,140 --> 00:35:00,940
And if we can get them all sprinkled into one match, I'm on board with it.
562
00:35:00,940 --> 00:35:07,380
I still think as much as I like Finn Balor, he still needs a little bit more credibility built.
563
00:35:07,380 --> 00:35:12,580
Because we saw him getting his ass kicked in Judgment Day for quite a long time.
564
00:35:12,580 --> 00:35:17,540
He's got to get over the hump and we haven't seen him get over the hump on the SmackDown brand.
565
00:35:17,540 --> 00:35:20,820
Maybe a feud with Gunther does that for him.
566
00:35:20,820 --> 00:35:25,460
And then coming out of that feud is who goes for Punk after Sammy and Kevin.
567
00:35:25,460 --> 00:35:29,140
I just think Balor needs a little more.
568
00:35:29,140 --> 00:35:33,780
And Gunther, as much as I love Gunther, I don't know what it is.
569
00:35:33,780 --> 00:35:35,940
He just feels flat to me.
570
00:35:35,940 --> 00:35:36,940
>> Hmm.
571
00:35:36,940 --> 00:35:38,340
>> I don't know what it is.
572
00:35:38,340 --> 00:35:43,940
I don't think it's been, it's this start and stop booking of Gunther over the last year,
573
00:35:43,940 --> 00:35:47,020
where I just kind of feel like right now he's flat.
574
00:35:47,020 --> 00:35:53,980
And I don't know if he needs a Kevin Owens or he needs a Damian or somebody else to really light a fire on him.
575
00:35:53,980 --> 00:35:55,580
It just right now Gunther feels flat.
576
00:35:55,580 --> 00:35:57,780
So I'm still going to go back to what I said last week.
577
00:35:57,780 --> 00:36:03,220
Sammy, Kevin and Punk would be the match I want to see as a Triple Threat match.
578
00:36:03,220 --> 00:36:07,220
>> You took my follow question there by your answer, but that's fine.
579
00:36:07,220 --> 00:36:11,340
Because I just feel like WWE is really setting themselves up right now for fatal five way.
580
00:36:11,340 --> 00:36:12,100
Because I agree with you.
581
00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:14,020
I would have loved to see him just a Triple Threat.
582
00:36:14,020 --> 00:36:16,180
But what would we do?
583
00:36:16,180 --> 00:36:16,940
How do we get there?
584
00:36:16,940 --> 00:36:22,020
I mean, if you remove Gunther and Baller from it, those two guys are going to feud with one another.
585
00:36:22,020 --> 00:36:26,820
So something needs to happen in this current build where why they would separate from one another.
586
00:36:26,820 --> 00:36:30,780
It feels like to me that the safe is bet.
587
00:36:30,780 --> 00:36:35,900
And I wonder if this is more protection because Kevin's coming back from injury.
588
00:36:35,900 --> 00:36:40,260
Sammy is currently injured with a broken hand, which took out Willow Knight and Galen A.W.
589
00:36:40,260 --> 00:36:42,580
Gunther and Baller for all we know is healthy.
590
00:36:42,580 --> 00:36:46,340
I wonder if this is just kind of setting up for a little bit of protection right now.
591
00:36:46,340 --> 00:36:51,540
Before we get to an eventual punk versus Owens versus Zayn match, because maybe Owens is still
592
00:36:51,540 --> 00:36:56,180
rehabbing coming back from his time on the show for 18 months and
593
00:36:56,180 --> 00:36:57,740
Sammy's not fully healthy back.
594
00:36:57,740 --> 00:37:01,020
>> Well, I mean, they're not playing it safe with Kevin.
595
00:37:01,020 --> 00:37:09,260
I mean, he's already had, he came back, had the match at Summerslam or not Summerslam, whatever.
596
00:37:09,260 --> 00:37:10,100
>> Yeah, Summerslam.
597
00:37:10,100 --> 00:37:11,140
>> Yeah, Summerslam.
598
00:37:11,140 --> 00:37:12,300
He's already had the match.
599
00:37:12,300 --> 00:37:13,580
This is like, he's already had four matches.
600
00:37:13,580 --> 00:37:15,260
Three matches has he been back from?
601
00:37:15,260 --> 00:37:16,260
Can I interrupt on that?
602
00:37:16,260 --> 00:37:17,260
>> Can I interrupt on that?
603
00:37:17,260 --> 00:37:18,260
>> Because you would know this being in the wrestling business.
604
00:37:18,260 --> 00:37:22,860
So my understanding is when you're in a multi-person match like Kevin Owens has been in, right?
605
00:37:22,860 --> 00:37:26,580
The only one on one match that he's been in was with against Punk on SmackDown.
606
00:37:26,580 --> 00:37:30,460
And I'm not counting any of the house show stuff because I'm not fully aware of what he's been doing on the house show.
607
00:37:30,460 --> 00:37:35,860
But he's been protected in these fatal four ways, tag team matches, multi-person matches, whatever.
608
00:37:35,860 --> 00:37:42,380
My understanding as a fan is the reason why you do that is to protect someone who may be a little bit banged up,
609
00:37:42,380 --> 00:37:48,740
needs a little bit of a rest, a little bit of a break, isn't fully back in the swing of things because I thought that's the reason why like Paige has been.
610
00:37:48,740 --> 00:37:54,700
And even the pelas themselves have been protected in some of these tag team matches due to some of their long-term injury history.
611
00:37:54,700 --> 00:37:57,380
And in Orin for a period of time, was doing the same thing with Matt Reddle.
612
00:37:57,380 --> 00:38:04,980
>> Yes, to a degree that you're trying to protect the long-term investment of it by doing multi-man matches.
613
00:38:04,980 --> 00:38:15,660
But I mean, when you got there and maybe wrestling CM Punk, who's arguably one of the best in-ring wrestlers of all time and one of the safest guys is also protecting him.
614
00:38:15,660 --> 00:38:19,140
But it's also a lot of times it's also just protecting him against cardio.
615
00:38:19,140 --> 00:38:24,140
And maybe they're still trying to get his cardio back up as your dog told me I'm wrong.
616
00:38:24,140 --> 00:38:26,060
>> Yes. >> Somebody must be nearby.
617
00:38:26,060 --> 00:38:32,300
>> But yeah, multi-man matches is either A, you're protecting storyline investment,
618
00:38:32,300 --> 00:38:41,700
where you don't want a certain person to take a loss, or you're trying to protect a returning person more of their cardio than the injury side of it.
619
00:38:41,700 --> 00:38:49,780
Because it gives them breathers in the match to kind of go a full 20 or 30 minutes or maybe one on one, they couldn't do it.
620
00:38:49,780 --> 00:38:58,820
So it is a little bit of protection, but like in that situation, these multi-man matches, it doesn't hurt the momentum of your returning guy.
621
00:38:58,820 --> 00:39:05,780
If they're not the one getting the victory in the multi-man match because they're also not the one taking the loss.
622
00:39:05,780 --> 00:39:06,780
>> Interesting, interesting.
623
00:39:06,780 --> 00:39:17,220
I'd love to hear everybody's thoughts on what matches or matches you'd like to see over at patreon.com/sr2podcastcomment on this downloadable episode over at the Patreon page.
624
00:39:17,220 --> 00:39:22,140
Dr. Trace switching gears over to the red brand.
625
00:39:22,140 --> 00:39:30,780
We had Penta beading Ray Phoenix. He will now be taking on Roman Reigns in a World Heavyweight Championship match in Mexico City in less than two weeks.
626
00:39:30,780 --> 00:39:37,180
And the question I have here is, is can WWE make him against Roman Reigns feel bigger than a predictable title fence?
627
00:39:37,180 --> 00:39:42,740
And the reason behind this in the background on this is because last week we asked which lucha brother should win.
628
00:39:42,740 --> 00:39:45,900
WWE chose Penta. We, you and I, were leaning towards Penta.
629
00:39:45,900 --> 00:39:51,700
And Penta and Ray Phoenix delivered an instant classic on Raw before Penta earned the biggest singles opportunity with WWE career.
630
00:39:51,700 --> 00:39:56,020
Roman Reigns World Heavyweight Championship Mexico City on September 14th.
631
00:39:56,020 --> 00:40:01,220
But here's the real opportunity. We all know Roman is going to be the favorite. That's not really the interesting part.
632
00:40:01,220 --> 00:40:06,180
The interesting part is whether WWE can use this match to move Penta permanently up the card.
633
00:40:06,180 --> 00:40:13,220
Wrestling is filled with title challenger. Everyone knows probably aren't winning and Penta certainly is one of them.
634
00:40:13,220 --> 00:40:17,540
The best version of those matches leave the challenger feeling like a bigger star afterward anyway.
635
00:40:17,540 --> 00:40:23,180
The example I use, Bret Hart versus 1-2-3 Kid, July 11th, 1994 edition of Monday Night Raw.
636
00:40:23,180 --> 00:40:29,300
Go watch if you've never seen it. That is an example of this. This feels like that opportunity for Penta.
637
00:40:29,300 --> 00:40:39,300
So my question for you, Dr. Dre, is can Penta lose to Roman Reigns in Mexico City and still come out of the match feeling like a legitimate WWE main event player?
638
00:40:40,820 --> 00:40:49,860
Yeah. You also have to play into a little more getting people to know who Penta is. His story.
639
00:40:49,860 --> 00:40:58,180
You want to get people emotionally invested in Penta. The person and not just the cool mask and the cool moves and the Sierra Madden.
640
00:40:58,180 --> 00:41:01,700
No, Sierra M-Sero Miao, though, couldn't say it for a second.
641
00:41:01,700 --> 00:41:08,020
Like, being a cool looking guy with some cool moves and a cool catchphrase is great. It'll get you over.
642
00:41:08,020 --> 00:41:16,500
But to get that long-term investment in somebody, you kind of got to know their story, you kind of got to feel like this is a guy I can root for.
643
00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:22,860
And the great thing about this WWE has been looking for this type of person for the better part of 20 years.
644
00:41:22,860 --> 00:41:35,940
They've been looking for that Rey Mysterio replacement who can be the guy that fans can gravitate towards from the Hispanic culture and be that face of that demographic.
645
00:41:35,940 --> 00:41:50,260
So if you invest in it right, then yeah, Penta can take off and be that guy for this division and always be an upper mid card main event level kind of guy that in a pinch, you can pull the trigger.
646
00:41:50,260 --> 00:41:56,340
We saw, I mean, we saw years ago when punk left the company and they had the one night tournament to crown a champion.
647
00:41:56,340 --> 00:42:00,980
It was Rey. They pulled the trigger with it. Rey hadn't been doing a whole lot right before that.
648
00:42:00,980 --> 00:42:07,220
I mean, you can always go to it as long as you have that long-term emotional investment in your character.
649
00:42:07,220 --> 00:42:11,980
>> Yeah, it's going to be a very, I have high hopes for this match.
650
00:42:11,980 --> 00:42:15,180
I really think this could be a massive breakthrough moment for Penta.
651
00:42:15,180 --> 00:42:17,260
I think the crowd is going to be phenomenal.
652
00:42:17,260 --> 00:42:21,980
I think the match is going to be really good and I think Roman Reigns is going to make a star that night.
653
00:42:21,980 --> 00:42:22,780
I certainly hope so.
654
00:42:22,780 --> 00:42:26,540
I hope we come out of here in two, three weeks time after that Monday night, Rodrigo.
655
00:42:26,540 --> 00:42:31,140
Well, did that Penta match like live up to the expectations we've been building over these last several weeks?
656
00:42:31,140 --> 00:42:36,780
And it's rare that we get this opportunity to really hype up a raw match like this.
657
00:42:36,780 --> 00:42:37,380
But here we are.
658
00:42:37,380 --> 00:42:42,100
And this is the same blueprint I wish they did with Kevin Owens on the Smackdown side.
659
00:42:42,100 --> 00:42:48,220
Give me a couple weeks to build towards that big match with CM Punk on Smackdown for the World of the Witch or WWE Championship.
660
00:42:48,220 --> 00:42:50,220
I should say in Toronto, Canada.
661
00:42:50,220 --> 00:42:54,500
I think that a lot more to do with the calendar than what was the flexibility here.
662
00:42:54,500 --> 00:42:57,540
But maybe WWE learned from that in future.
663
00:42:57,540 --> 00:43:04,860
It's just because Penta is going to be the home country boy against Roman Reigns on Monday, September 14th.
664
00:43:04,860 --> 00:43:06,380
And that was a great match against Rey Phoenix.
665
00:43:06,380 --> 00:43:07,780
And I think they've got something with both guys.
666
00:43:07,780 --> 00:43:17,020
For me, I love that Rey Phoenix, even in a loss, has become someone that is living up to the potential that I had for him as a fan watching in the last several years in TNA and A.W.
667
00:43:17,020 --> 00:43:20,820
As someone that I enjoy watching wrestling and think WWE could really capitalize on.
668
00:43:20,820 --> 00:43:27,700
And I think he has upped his game and his viewing in WWE in both the fan's eyes as well as the creative eyes.
669
00:43:27,700 --> 00:43:32,540
And that's what's really exciting to see right now in Roll of the City Entertainment.
670
00:43:32,540 --> 00:43:37,860
Lastly here Dr. Trey, let's preview and predict WWE Sunday Night's Main event.
671
00:43:37,860 --> 00:43:41,580
It comes to us this Sunday from the State Farm Arena in Atlanta GA.
672
00:43:41,580 --> 00:43:47,180
We've got an interesting card here because two matches are doing most of the heavy lifting for me.
673
00:43:47,180 --> 00:43:50,140
We've got Cody Rhodes versus Randy Orton has 20 years of history behind it.
674
00:43:50,140 --> 00:43:52,660
It's a rematch of a Russell medium main event.
675
00:43:52,660 --> 00:43:54,500
And then you've got Oba Femme and Braun Breaker.
676
00:43:54,500 --> 00:43:59,060
That's literally the match up we spent weeks debating whether WWE should even be giving us this soon.
677
00:43:59,060 --> 00:44:01,420
Now we're getting both on the same show.
678
00:44:01,420 --> 00:44:03,060
So what am I most interested in?
679
00:44:03,060 --> 00:44:06,100
Oba vs Braun is the match I'm most fascinated by.
680
00:44:06,100 --> 00:44:10,140
We've talked about these two potential becoming WWE's scene and batiss of the next generation.
681
00:44:10,140 --> 00:44:11,460
We've talked about keeping them apart.
682
00:44:11,460 --> 00:44:13,500
We've talked about letting them build separate legacies.
683
00:44:13,500 --> 00:44:16,260
Instead, WWE is putting them together now.
684
00:44:16,260 --> 00:44:19,340
So if you're doing it, make it matter.
685
00:44:19,340 --> 00:44:26,180
The biggest booking challenge is finding a finish that doesn't make either guy feel smaller coming out of Sunday.
686
00:44:26,180 --> 00:44:30,820
So before we get into the card itself, Dr. Trey, who could afford the loss more?
687
00:44:30,820 --> 00:44:32,540
Oba Femme or Braun Breaker?
688
00:44:32,540 --> 00:44:36,900
Oba can afford the loss more.
689
00:44:36,900 --> 00:44:40,780
He's got the credibility of the Brock Lesnar feud.
690
00:44:40,780 --> 00:44:43,900
He's super over with the audience.
691
00:44:43,900 --> 00:44:49,140
If you get the vision involved or it takes three guys to put him down, he can afford the loss.
692
00:44:49,140 --> 00:44:51,500
I don't think Braun Breaker can afford the loss.
693
00:44:51,500 --> 00:44:56,940
Unless you're going to go in a completely different direction with him and break him away from the vision.
694
00:44:56,940 --> 00:45:02,020
As long as he's part of the vision, he can't afford that loss right now.
695
00:45:02,020 --> 00:45:04,100
Just because you know what I'm talking about.
696
00:45:04,100 --> 00:45:07,580
His career has kind of, he was super hyped.
697
00:45:07,580 --> 00:45:11,700
And then over the last six months, it's cooled down dramatically.
698
00:45:11,700 --> 00:45:15,420
He really needs a big victory.
699
00:45:15,420 --> 00:45:18,180
You know, he lost in the rivalry with Seth.
700
00:45:18,180 --> 00:45:26,740
He needs something to kind of put his stamp on himself as being that 1B to Oba's 1A going forward in the future.
701
00:45:26,740 --> 00:45:28,940
So I think Braun needs the win.
702
00:45:28,940 --> 00:45:31,140
Oba can afford the loss.
703
00:45:31,140 --> 00:45:33,620
Yeah, Braun certainly needs the win.
704
00:45:33,620 --> 00:45:35,460
I totally agree with you on that.
705
00:45:35,460 --> 00:45:37,020
I just don't see them doing it.
706
00:45:37,020 --> 00:45:44,580
It could be one of those instances where a loss is what causes him to snap and that makes him more compelling as a character.
707
00:45:44,580 --> 00:45:48,620
Or we get Paul Heyman involved and that's how Braun Breaker wins in his feet.
708
00:45:48,620 --> 00:45:50,100
Oba Femi.
709
00:45:50,100 --> 00:45:50,780
But yeah, I'm with you.
710
00:45:50,780 --> 00:45:55,380
I think Braun can, Oba can afford the loss more.
711
00:45:55,380 --> 00:45:58,540
Braun needs the win more, right?
712
00:45:58,540 --> 00:46:01,060
Is that we're both in agreement on that?
713
00:46:01,060 --> 00:46:04,620
Yeah, and plus doing it on a Sunday night heat.
714
00:46:04,620 --> 00:46:06,780
Or CB Sunday night main event.
715
00:46:06,780 --> 00:46:07,620
Black back.
716
00:46:07,620 --> 00:46:09,740
They should have called it so it's not.
717
00:46:09,740 --> 00:46:12,860
But doing it on a Sunday night main event.
718
00:46:12,860 --> 00:46:14,820
It's not a giant PLEA.
719
00:46:14,820 --> 00:46:15,860
It's not Summerslam.
720
00:46:15,860 --> 00:46:17,900
It's not WrestleMania.
721
00:46:17,900 --> 00:46:23,460
You know, it's probably it's on Pekock and I think most of us canceled our subscription to Pekock.
722
00:46:23,460 --> 00:46:24,460
Hand up.
723
00:46:24,460 --> 00:46:28,980
Yeah, when it went when everything moved out.
724
00:46:28,980 --> 00:46:34,460
There's not going to be as many eyes on this match as it would be if it was survivor series.
725
00:46:34,460 --> 00:46:38,540
You know, so I think in that instance you can actually have Oba take the loss.
726
00:46:38,540 --> 00:46:40,380
It doesn't hurt him that much.
727
00:46:40,380 --> 00:46:45,660
But if Oba wins and Braun loses, loses cleanly, people are going to start, you know, second
728
00:46:45,660 --> 00:46:49,300
guessing, you know, what are you doing with Braun Breaker?
729
00:46:49,300 --> 00:46:51,500
Yeah, no, absolutely.
730
00:46:51,500 --> 00:46:55,060
So I mean, WWE obviously sees these two as the future.
731
00:46:55,060 --> 00:46:56,300
I think we can agree on this.
732
00:46:56,300 --> 00:47:02,740
We believe that this match should have a definitive winner.
733
00:47:02,740 --> 00:47:09,020
I mean, I don't I think even if the bad guys cheat to win, it's still a definitive.
734
00:47:09,020 --> 00:47:10,100
That's what I'm saying.
735
00:47:10,100 --> 00:47:11,700
Yeah, we need a definitive winner.
736
00:47:11,700 --> 00:47:15,660
We cannot have a double count out, you know, DQ, any of that BS.
737
00:47:15,660 --> 00:47:16,660
Yeah.
738
00:47:16,660 --> 00:47:17,660
Okay, yes, absolutely.
739
00:47:17,660 --> 00:47:23,660
You need a winner in this match because if you do something like, oh, it's the match got thrown
740
00:47:23,660 --> 00:47:28,660
out or it's a double disqualification or a double count out, it's just going to piss people
741
00:47:28,660 --> 00:47:29,660
off.
742
00:47:29,660 --> 00:47:34,700
And if the bad guys cheat to win, it's still you need one person to kind of get that upper
743
00:47:34,700 --> 00:47:35,700
hand.
744
00:47:35,700 --> 00:47:40,300
So when you cycle this rivalry back up, you can go, oh, well, Braun, Braun, the only guy
745
00:47:40,300 --> 00:47:42,460
that has a winning record against Oba.
746
00:47:42,460 --> 00:47:46,780
Now there's another obstacle for Oba to overcome for his, when he comes for his come-up
747
00:47:46,780 --> 00:47:47,780
ends.
748
00:47:47,780 --> 00:47:48,780
There you go.
749
00:47:48,780 --> 00:47:53,380
It'll be this Sunday, Peacock, Peacock, Braun Breaker versus Oba Femme.
750
00:47:53,380 --> 00:47:56,060
Let's get into the car, Dr. Trey with our predictions.
751
00:47:56,060 --> 00:47:59,580
Charlotte Flair, Alexa Bliss and Tatum Paxley would be taking on Jade Cargo, Meetion and
752
00:47:59,580 --> 00:48:02,860
BFAB in a six woman tag team match.
753
00:48:02,860 --> 00:48:03,860
I'll go first here.
754
00:48:03,860 --> 00:48:07,460
I'm going to take Charlotte Flair and Alexa Bliss and Tatum Paxley in this one.
755
00:48:07,460 --> 00:48:11,620
Yeah, I am too because I mean, dear God, it's Meetion and BFAB.
756
00:48:11,620 --> 00:48:13,460
So you can have either one of them take the loss.
757
00:48:13,460 --> 00:48:14,460
It doesn't hurt Jade.
758
00:48:14,460 --> 00:48:17,660
So yeah, it takes Charlotte, Alexa and Tatum as well.
759
00:48:17,660 --> 00:48:20,260
You got Baron Corbin versus Little Yachty.
760
00:48:20,260 --> 00:48:24,580
If Little Yachty lasts five minutes, Trick William earns a United States championship
761
00:48:24,580 --> 00:48:27,460
reader match later that night.
762
00:48:27,460 --> 00:48:28,460
I start with you.
763
00:48:28,460 --> 00:48:33,260
How do you predict this one?
764
00:48:33,260 --> 00:48:37,380
So right now, is there only the four matches listed on the car?
765
00:48:37,380 --> 00:48:38,380
How many?
766
00:48:38,380 --> 00:48:40,540
Only four matches announced.
767
00:48:40,540 --> 00:48:45,780
Okay, so I will take Little Yachty lasting the five minutes to get Trick William's the
768
00:48:45,780 --> 00:48:48,140
match later in the show.
769
00:48:48,140 --> 00:48:49,940
Is that how we're predicting this?
770
00:48:49,940 --> 00:48:51,900
Yeah, that's how we have to.
771
00:48:51,900 --> 00:48:57,260
I'm going to take Baron Corbin.
772
00:48:57,260 --> 00:49:03,980
I know Storyline Sense tells me that it should be Little Yachty because we'll get that match.
773
00:49:03,980 --> 00:49:06,740
But I can't see the way I look at it.
774
00:49:06,740 --> 00:49:08,500
So it's the five minutes.
775
00:49:08,500 --> 00:49:10,540
I look at it like they do it.
776
00:49:10,540 --> 00:49:12,020
You have 30 minutes here, 30 minutes.
777
00:49:12,020 --> 00:49:16,220
It's a two hour show, roughly around two hours, 30, 30, 30, 30.
778
00:49:16,220 --> 00:49:18,740
All right, I'm with you.
779
00:49:18,740 --> 00:49:20,140
I'm going to take Little Yachty as well.
780
00:49:20,140 --> 00:49:22,060
I think it's just five minutes.
781
00:49:22,060 --> 00:49:24,540
Then you got enough time for the rest of the United States championship match.
782
00:49:24,540 --> 00:49:28,580
It's in Atlanta, which I think Yachty is from Georgia.
783
00:49:28,580 --> 00:49:30,420
Yeah, he's like a Georgia kid.
784
00:49:30,420 --> 00:49:33,180
So I will take Little Yachty as well.
785
00:49:33,180 --> 00:49:35,620
Oba Femi versus Braun Breaker.
786
00:49:35,620 --> 00:49:37,780
There must be a winner.
787
00:49:37,780 --> 00:49:40,700
Man, this is a tough one.
788
00:49:40,700 --> 00:49:44,860
I am going to take...
789
00:49:44,860 --> 00:49:45,980
I'm going to take Braun Breaker.
790
00:49:45,980 --> 00:49:46,980
He needs this one a lot.
791
00:49:46,980 --> 00:49:48,460
I'm going to take Braun Braun.
792
00:49:48,460 --> 00:49:56,020
Yeah, I'm leaning into my wrestling book or card that if I want both these guys to maintain
793
00:49:56,020 --> 00:49:58,100
upward trajectory.
794
00:49:58,100 --> 00:50:00,020
Braun needs it more.
795
00:50:00,020 --> 00:50:02,980
Yeah, we're going to have like 37 viewers on Peacock.
796
00:50:02,980 --> 00:50:03,980
So I don't have the fans won't.
797
00:50:03,980 --> 00:50:05,700
And not many people will miss it.
798
00:50:05,700 --> 00:50:07,340
So I'll take Braun winning as well.
799
00:50:07,340 --> 00:50:09,940
And then lastly, Dr. Trayk Cody Rhodes versus Randy Orton.
800
00:50:09,940 --> 00:50:12,980
Who do you got?
801
00:50:12,980 --> 00:50:13,980
This is the hard one.
802
00:50:13,980 --> 00:50:19,500
This is actually for me harder to pick than Oba and Braun.
803
00:50:19,500 --> 00:50:24,100
It's almost like picking against Super Cena in a lot of ways.
804
00:50:24,100 --> 00:50:27,500
My brain says Cody, my heart says Randy.
805
00:50:27,500 --> 00:50:29,060
So I'm going to go my heart on this one.
806
00:50:29,060 --> 00:50:32,700
I'm going to go with Randy getting some kind of win, even though it isn't Atlanta, which
807
00:50:32,700 --> 00:50:35,300
is Cody's adopted hometown.
808
00:50:35,300 --> 00:50:41,300
But if Yachty is going to win in Atlanta, then Cody's got to lose in Atlanta.
809
00:50:41,300 --> 00:50:44,820
I'll take Randy getting the win.
810
00:50:44,820 --> 00:50:45,820
That's the balance point.
811
00:50:45,820 --> 00:50:49,220
Little Yachty is somehow affecting Cody Rhodes versus Randy Orton.
812
00:50:49,220 --> 00:50:51,260
I'm going to take Randy Orton in this one as well.
813
00:50:51,260 --> 00:50:57,020
I think Randy needs a victory to keep this feud nice and spicy for a while because Cody
814
00:50:57,020 --> 00:50:58,020
is not going to be in it.
815
00:50:58,020 --> 00:51:01,780
I feel like Cody and Randy won't be in the title picture for the short term at least.
816
00:51:01,780 --> 00:51:03,060
All right, there you go.
817
00:51:03,060 --> 00:51:07,900
We will recap and review Sunday Night's Mid event all on next week's edition of SRTU.
818
00:51:07,900 --> 00:51:09,980
With that said, let's get a couple plugs and spots.
819
00:51:09,980 --> 00:51:14,040
This is out of the way you can download the show at patreon.com/srtupodcast.
820
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,540
And the store will show feed on Apple's Spotify, where we download this podcast.
821
00:51:17,540 --> 00:51:19,380
Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe.
822
00:51:19,380 --> 00:51:22,660
You could fall individually on X for myself at SRTU Jeff.
823
00:51:22,660 --> 00:51:25,060
And for Dr. Dre Franklin, if you'd like to see Dr. Dre, and of course don't forget to
824
00:51:25,060 --> 00:51:27,900
fall show on X at SRTU podcast.
825
00:51:27,900 --> 00:51:32,460
With that being said, what is going on in the one full world of Dr. Dre Franklin this week?
826
00:51:32,460 --> 00:51:35,700
Well, like Jeff said, you can find me on X at the Dr. Dre.
827
00:51:35,700 --> 00:51:39,500
You can find me on Instagram and Facebook, Dr. Dre Franklin.
828
00:51:39,500 --> 00:51:42,300
When you're on Facebook, be sure to check out Rocketsy, Championship Wrestling.
829
00:51:42,300 --> 00:51:48,420
We have a big show coming up this Saturday, the fifth from the luxurious Hazel Green, Alabama.
830
00:51:48,420 --> 00:51:53,240
But if you want to go out and check out past episodes, you can go to youtube.com/rocketsy.
831
00:51:53,240 --> 00:51:54,800
Championship Wrestling.
832
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,940
See the entire video catalog of all the Rocketsy shows.
833
00:51:58,940 --> 00:52:04,180
See some of your favorite stars that you see pop up in NXT and TN or AW that have all
834
00:52:04,180 --> 00:52:07,740
the trick you'll get through the Rocketsy.
835
00:52:07,740 --> 00:52:10,900
Including the previously mentioned Lexus King, who's actually been featured in Rocketsy
836
00:52:10,900 --> 00:52:11,900
a few times.
837
00:52:11,900 --> 00:52:15,700
But most importantly, get out there, support your local independent wrestling shows, where
838
00:52:15,700 --> 00:52:23,100
you too can also go out there and find your next show that tries to copy the Fuzzy United
839
00:52:23,100 --> 00:52:26,660
States Championship, title the UGS United States.
840
00:52:26,660 --> 00:52:27,660
I don't know.
841
00:52:27,660 --> 00:52:28,660
Is that sponsored yet?
842
00:52:28,660 --> 00:52:32,140
Can you buy that on W on shopw.com?
843
00:52:32,140 --> 00:52:34,140
I've not looked for it.
844
00:52:34,140 --> 00:52:36,140
I would assume it will be up there soon.
845
00:52:36,140 --> 00:52:39,140
I mean, talk about, I mean, that's not good.
846
00:52:39,140 --> 00:52:48,580
I mean, I'm just like, I would take any of the Canadian or I think, the Spinner Bells.
847
00:52:48,580 --> 00:52:49,580
Spinner Bells.
848
00:52:49,580 --> 00:52:56,780
The Spinner Bells, even though like when I think, what was the guy's name that was back, he was
849
00:52:56,780 --> 00:53:01,060
Japanese, Smackdown, United States Champion, like in the early 2010s.
850
00:53:01,060 --> 00:53:05,860
Was supposed to be a big star and then they pair him in law, resistance for a little bit.
851
00:53:05,860 --> 00:53:09,060
Oh, like, Hedekko Suzuki or something, Hedekko Suzuki?
852
00:53:09,060 --> 00:53:10,060
Yes, yes.
853
00:53:10,060 --> 00:53:13,980
Didn't he have like a Japanese version of the U.S. title as well at one point?
854
00:53:13,980 --> 00:53:14,980
I got a sworn union.
855
00:53:14,980 --> 00:53:15,980
I'll have to take a look at that.
856
00:53:15,980 --> 00:53:19,940
Because the Canadian gimmick that Kevin O'Hase did and even Ethan Page there was not
857
00:53:19,940 --> 00:53:20,940
new.
858
00:53:20,940 --> 00:53:21,940
No, not Hedekko, Hedekko.
859
00:53:21,940 --> 00:53:22,940
We have this.
860
00:53:22,940 --> 00:53:24,940
Oh, who was that now?
861
00:53:24,940 --> 00:53:26,940
It was something Suzuki though.
862
00:53:26,940 --> 00:53:27,940
Yeah.
863
00:53:27,940 --> 00:53:33,860
But this may be the ugliest championship belt I have ever seen.
864
00:53:33,860 --> 00:53:34,860
I don't know.
865
00:53:34,860 --> 00:53:37,940
It just reminds me of that.
866
00:53:37,940 --> 00:53:39,940
Kenzo Suzuki.
867
00:53:39,940 --> 00:53:41,420
Kenzo Suzuki, yes.
868
00:53:41,420 --> 00:53:44,260
It just reminds me of that flow rise all of the boots with the fur.
869
00:53:44,260 --> 00:53:46,340
This is the belt with the fur.
870
00:53:46,340 --> 00:53:48,780
So yeah, that this is, it's, it's got awful.
871
00:53:48,780 --> 00:53:52,460
But some show will try to copy it if you're out there, it's sports locally, the pen and
872
00:53:52,460 --> 00:53:53,460
wrestling show.
873
00:53:53,460 --> 00:53:54,460
There you go.
874
00:53:54,460 --> 00:53:57,060
Support all the great things that support SRT if you would be so inclined.
875
00:53:57,060 --> 00:54:02,540
If you would like to gift that championship to Dr. Troy Franklin, we could start a nice
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little run here, a little go for me.
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Go for me page.
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Go for me.
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Go for me.
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There you go.
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That'll do it for this week's edition of SRTU.
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Thank you for making us part of your week.
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Enjoy the weekend.
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Another weekend filled with professional wrestling.
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Enjoy the Liberty holiday for those here in the United States that tune in and listen
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to SRTU.
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Once again, we'll be back next week on September the 10th over at patreon.com/srtupodcast.
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We will recap and review Sunday nights main event and everything that has gone on in the
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world of professional wrestling.
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With that said, for Dr. Troy Franklin, I am Jeff Peck.
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This has been The Still Relays Show.
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