AEW All In & NXT Heatwave preview + Sami Zayn snaps | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #863

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It's still real to be damaged in it!

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Welcome everybody! Welcome to this week's This Still Rolo Show, Episode

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numbers 863 for August 27, 2026. This is your NXT Heat Wave and AWOL in London.

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Preview and Predictions Edition of SRTU. I am one after the show I am Jeff Peck joined

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every single week for the coast along with Dr. Tray Franklin. Dr. Tray, it has been a very

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oddly quiet week so far, my friend. Yeah, nothing to talk about, let's just go to

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the show right now. We're good. With that being said, until next week, for Dr. Tray Franklin,

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I'm Jeff Peck. Is it weird to me that the biggest news of the week is that Nigel McGinnis

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gets to wrestle and winbly stadium against a member of the Blackpool Combat Club and it's not

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Daniel Bryan or Bryan Danielson? Wow, and you called them the Blackpool Combat Club.

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Yeah, I guess the artist firmly known as the Blackpool Combat Club. Yeah, I guess that may be

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the biggest news. There was nothing like Earth Shattering from a news front that's going to

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lead the show. It's going to be a lot of looking back at some of the stuff on SmackDown Raw and XT8W

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this week. I'll bring this up when we start previewing AWOL in London this weekend. I look at AWOL

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in as their WrestleMania. I mean, they're in Wembley, right? I mean, Wembley had 80,000 people in

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there. I think they'll have close to 50, I want to say, in just a couple of nights. And for a Go-Home

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edition of AW Dynamite, it was one of the most like just walking to the end of, yeah, Ho-Hom,

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let me get to the end of two hours edition of AW Dynamite I've seen in some time. And that is

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typically the trend when they go overseas, Dr. Trey. So they were in Glasgow last night or

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yesterday afternoon. And I don't know about you. Do you DVR the wrestling shows at all

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with your dreams or what? Yeah, I basically usually have to watch because I mean,

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my schedule's kind of crazy right now. So it's kind of like watching it when I'm traveling or

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you're driving somewhere, so I'll watch an hour here, go do something, jump back in, watch another

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hour type thing. Yeah, and I feel like most wrestling fans are that way. I DVR every wrestling show

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that I can outside of obviously it, Ron and XD. So I always, and I don't think I've ever brought it

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up here on the show, but I will have to DVR the show that airs after Dynamite and then just to be

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sure because the last several weeks they've gone about two and a half hours, even though it's two

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hour time frame that they put it down, even beyond that. So like I had to record two episodes of

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impractical jokers last night. And I was about 15 minutes behind the show. And as I was watching live,

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I'm getting closer towards the end. They're in Swarth Strickland Jungle Boy. It wrapped up just

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around the two hour mark, which it hasn't done in weeks. And I was like, oh my god, I can't believe

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that was, that was the go home edition heading in all in. Like there's going to be collision on Saturday,

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but Dynamite and collision are booked completely differently on a weekly basis. A.W. Dynamite is more

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action and like A.W. Star versus A.W. Star. Collision has its fair share of action, but they love doing

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squash matches in it. And it's on a Saturday night. I was like, I can't believe that was the go home edition.

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So yeah, that was, it's been a, been a quiet week. It's like the way that summer's going out, I guess.

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And I would not expect that at least from A.W. Yeah. And and maybe two degree, I get it. I mean, some

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of these other, I mean, WW usually there go home shows. They'll usually have something big in the

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main event, but they try to protect their stars. You want to make sure that, hey, my top guy is going to

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be able to be at Wembley Stadium. I mean, that's why we saw the Omega Osprey, you know, one wing

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angel through, or one wing angel through the table. Last week. Yeah. And not that much this week is

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God forbid that goes horribly awry. Now your main events blown up. You know, so I get it. They're

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trying to protect the show, but yeah, but you kind of got to sell me on the show, like not really that

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hard. I mean, because it is like you mentioned, very similar to to WW WrestleMania for A.W. But

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I mean, if your main event matches are Osprey and Omega and then Monet and Nightingale and you're

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closing it out with an angle for the six man, the Trio's championship. I mean, I hope that God, we're

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getting a new day payoff in this because otherwise, that's kind of an odd way to end, you know, your

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go home show right before your biggest event of the year. Yeah. And when Osprey says that Kenio

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Megadon traveled to Glasgow, I'm like, okay, missed opportunity. And it's I've somewhere thought it says

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you did. Like if last week's show was the go home edition heading into all in, I'd be like, that was

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a great way, great send off to head into all in weekend. I mean, what they basically accomplished

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last night was the continental challenge cup finals being solidified, maybe a TBS championship

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challenger for my world. More entrance into the casino battle royal. The announcement of the Trio's

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casino royal wasn't made today by Tony Khan during his conference call. I mean, I know you're

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implying that the swerve stuff is to push forward the Trio's and it's like, I don't really know

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if that accomplished it because he shook hands with jungle boys. So it was a jungle boy and

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and lucha source going to be his partner. Like, I don't even know. You have the angle with a

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Willow night in Gellimer, Sadie's, Monet. Willow has is dealing with a legit broken hand.

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Just odd very odd and I don't know. The international shows are usually timed to two hours perfectly

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and that was what we got on Wednesday night. So I mean, we will certainly talk more about all in

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London here and just a little bit. We'll go through the card and it's a big week, but yeah,

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all in all, it was it was kind of quiet on the new storyfront, but the storylines is what's taking

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focal points. So I think probably most fans would prefer that anyway. So let's start with Friday night's

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Smackdown, Dr. Trey. We had Sammy Zane snapping during these highly anticipated from our show standpoint,

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CM Punk versus Kevin Owens match to close out Smackdown this past Friday. Last week we spent the

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show asking whether Kevin Owens should beat CM Punk for the WWE Championship Toronto. We got our

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answer, Punk retained, but somehow Sammy Zane became the biggest story coming out of the match.

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This is what you and I predicted. We figured if Punk was going to retain, Sammy would be involved

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somehow. Sammy tried to help Owens win the championship, Owens refused to use the title as a weapon.

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So Sammy Blast had Owens with it instead. Punk retained it and Sammy completely snapped on both

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guys while screaming that Punk stole the championship from him. Why this work? This wasn't simply Sammy

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Zane turning heel. Sammy believes he's justified. He thinks Punk has something that belongs to him.

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He tried to help his best friend become champion and when Owens rejected him, Sammy viewed it as

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another betrayal. That's much more interesting than Sammy suddenly becoming a generic bad guy. So

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where is this going? Sammy now has issues with Punk and Owens. Owens still has a legitimate reason

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to want another championship match. Punk suddenly has two extremely personal challenges around him.

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Punk Owens could very easily become Punk Owens Zane without feeling enforced. So the big

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questions coming out of Friday night's Smackdown Dr. Dre did Sammy Zane just become the most

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interesting person in the WWE Championship picture? I mean, he's kind of been the most

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interesting person in this stuff for the last couple of months. We didn't know which way

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they were going to go with it. We didn't like you and I at Ballsettar said, hey, the last real good

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guy angle is really you're being well done. And the way his character is gone is really reminiscent

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of what they did with Drew McIntyre a few years ago where Drew basically was like his attitude was he

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hadn't turned heel. Everybody else had turned against him. And so it's another take on that kind of

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advantage. But anytime you get your best friend involved, it's compelling television. And you and I

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were talking last week and leading up to this about that real life tension between Owens and Punk.

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And now you're involving Sammy Zane in the story. It makes it much more personal on different levels.

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So yeah, it's Sammy's the most interesting person on TV right now, which is good for business and

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good for people like us who love Sammy Zane. So where should this ultimately go? Punk versus Sammy,

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Owens versus Sammy or Punk versus Owens versus Sammy? I want Punk Owens Sammy. That's I want

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to triple threat. I think Kevin Owens is better in that neutral area where he's not really good,

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he's not really a bad guy. I'll outly stone cold back in the heydick where he's just running around

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stunning everybody you never knew what he was going to do. I think Kevin's better in that unpredictable

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role. And then let Sammy lean still into his heel side and Punk be the baby face. That's that's how

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I would kind of portray this whole thing. Yeah, I'm in agreement with you. And I wonder when they

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pull this trigger. Do you think on Friday night's edition of Smackdown? We come out of it where they've

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announced for Sunday nights main event Punk versus Owens versus Sammy or is this something that could

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be shelved in a couple of weeks for an edition of Smackdown or do you push it even further to early

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October when money in the bank is new in New Orleans Louisiana?

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So that'd be five, five, six weeks to money in the bank. Is that what we're looking at? About that.

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I'm trying to get I'm like, can you do six weeks of television to build up to this match? I mean,

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I'm sure you could. I mean, you can always tie another baby face into the mix to help team up

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with Punk against you know or punk and Owens against Sammy and Gunther. You know kind of like what they

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did earlier this year with Sammy and Gunther against Punk and Rhodes. Sunday nights main event so

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stacked. I just don't really want this just shoved in. I think this is something I think there's

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enough meat on this to really run it out the full six weeks and save it for money in the bank. So

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I think that that would be my call would be kind of saved that triple threat match for money in

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the bank. And then plus after that you're getting ready for survivor series. So if Punk comes out on top,

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you can go immediately into Punk's survivor series storyline with whoever that is.

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And I wonder if the way that you could kind of hold off on this for a little bit, Dr. Tray,

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saying like two weeks time Owens wants revenge against Sammy. That's a number one contender's match.

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Sammy Owens battled it out. That match ends up being a big you know double disqualification,

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interference from Punk again or whatever. And then that sets up four weeks later, three weeks later,

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however the time matches out for the three of them to wrestle that money in the bank because

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that was the thing that I didn't love about Owens versus Punk is I wanted to see a wait for big PLE.

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I understand now why they did it creatively. But I think you get away with it for a little bit where

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you set up a number one contender's match in a couple weeks. It does not have to be at Sunday

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Night's Main Event or maybe you do Owens versus Sammy in a number of contenders match at Sunday Night's

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Main Event as well. And then that gets you to money in the bank a little bit more. So this definitely

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has a little bit more meat on the bone for it. But I ultimately think that payoff needs to take

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place at a PLE especially since that you just did Punk versus Owens on free TV last week on Smackdown.

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Yeah, I mean you can come out this Friday night and have Kevin confront Sammy. You know why'd you do that?

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I want to win it the right way and same as like I was trying to help you but you're too dumb to see

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how I was trying to help you blah blah blah then you know they come out make the match for the

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following you know to me I would do it on Smackdown. And plus it just keeps people wanting to tune

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into Smackdown. You know when you get punk and you know I mean see when we get Owens and Zane on free

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TV in a number one contenders match people are going to check that out and then that night somebody

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pisses off CM Punk he gets involved you know thinking he's doing the right thing but instead of

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his screws everything up and then now you build that out to money in the bank. I think that's kind

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of the logical choice once again I don't really want any of these guys getting shoehorn into you and I

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talked about last last week Sunday night's main event or Saturday is it Sunday or Saturday by the way it's

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Sunday it's Saturday it's Saturday it's been about put it's on Sunday and they're calling Sunday.

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Okay, that's made about okay but it means that Sunday night main event cards so stacked right now I

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just don't want this rivalry this is where this potential could go to get shoved in and get lost in

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the mix. Keep it special on Smackdown for a few weeks to build it up to money in the bank. Yeah it's

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got to be some special but I'm digging what they're doing and it's three guys that I really enjoy

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watching and I think I mean the Smackdown main event picture for the men's side is so clean right

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now that it's exciting to see from a viewer's standpoint because you have an understanding of where

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things can go you've got punk Owen Zane right now doing stuff you've got Cody and Orton doing some

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stuff there's some rumblings that maybe big Drew is on his way back if he is does he go back to Smackdown

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does he land on Raw could we see Damien Priest get back into the main event level picture could we

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see Finn Bauer get involved you know there was some tension going on there between Damien Priest

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and our truth this past Friday night could that lead to a baller priest feud and I mean it just

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reminds me of like the good old days of Smackdown where it was they had a very good upper card that they

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just mix and match and play it around with and it made the show very very enjoyable where there's no

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question marks like okay well who do they put punk with next there may have been that for period of

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time but it's been quickly resurfaced to be like okay so this is the direction that they're going

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on and that makes things very very fun on the Smackdown side switching gears to Monday night raw

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doctor trail we have some big news coming out of there we will be having the Lutra bros

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penta versus Ray Phoenix at the end of this number one contender's tournament to face Roman

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Reigns in Mexico City in early September pentan Ray Phoenix both advancing on Monday night now the

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Lutra brothers have to go through each other again the winner will get Roman Reigns in a world heavyweight

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championship match in Mexico City which is pretty enormous set of stakes for both men why I am

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interested in this we've seen pentan Phoenix together for years just not yet in WWE but now WWE

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has the opportunity to have us them as two completely separate single star stars penta feels like

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the bigger opportunity a personality excuse me Phoenix might give Roman the crazier match and putting

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these two against each other immediately create something that feels different from another

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standard number one contenders match pentas been booked very very strong in WWE since he's debuted

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Ray Phoenix he has been kind of start stop go right now he is on a great swing as the triple A

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cruiserweight champion he's performing on RAW he's performing on Smackdown he was on NXT even this week

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it's nice to see Ray back in there where for a period of time like could they like release this guy

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because they're not using him like is Ray Phoenix going to go what the hell was I thinking wanted

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to leave a w and as of right now I would hope he doesn't have those thoughts because the booking

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has been good oh with that center regards to pentan Ray Phoenix doctor tre who should win between

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the two pentan Ray Phoenix this coming Monday and which one is the more interesting challenger for

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Roman Reigns in Mexico City I mean I think right now it's penta on both those questions I think he's

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the one that should win because he's been he's the bigger star he's the one on paper also that feels

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like the bigger threat you know just if you're looking at it going okay could you know which of these

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two guys could actually unseat Roman neither one is the odds on favor but I think if you're if you're

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ranking you'd be like okay pentas probably 30 percent chance of winning but Ray face be like a five

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you know it's just they're on different levels in their career in WWE right now and pentas

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the bigger star he's the bigger merchandise mover fiend at Ray Phoenix has been on a great

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trick Jack treason's winning the triple like cruiserweight championship but pentas already been in

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their continental champion he's has some really good rivalries the match with Chad Gable was great

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so if that's the case you know I put my money on pentas I had to pick one plus you know they can

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sell how these guys are brothers more on TV leading into this and then it may be coming out of it

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at some point we get the lucha bros and the usos at some point as well which I think would be a tag team

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dream match for a lot of tag team wrestling fans out there you know Vince was still around I'd be

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saying the reason why we're not seeing the lucha bros tag with one another is because Vince has no

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idea that their brothers and or tagged with each other but I have no idea what the triple H lead creative

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team is thinking right now other than maybe just to establish them you know they are bigger talents

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than deservedly so as as tag teams and there but I think they wanted to save them for a triple A

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show then one of them got hurt maybe pentadid and then that got scrapped but it's really nice to see

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it's been a fun tournament it's a it's a nice little um granted it's both like main roster guys

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that are in the finals here but the fact that they were able to sprinkle some triple A guys in

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there it's been really cool as well and yeah to me this just screams it's going to be Roman Reigns

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versus pentad pentas been booked so much better uh in WWE than Ray Phoenix has I think he is the

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bigger star right now though I truly believe that Phoenix could be on the same level as pentadid

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at some point especially if he gets that pentadid like push because Phoenix is so much fun to watch

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on the ring but Reigns versus pentadid is got to have a big fight feel to it it's going to be to

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me one of those old school Monday night RAWs where the World Heavyweight Championship the WWE

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Championship is on the line and it's it's a challenger it's a match that we've never seen before

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and that leads to a lot of intrigue and into how both perform in that setting and especially in

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Mexico City it should make for a really really cool atmosphere and that's the expectation I'm looking

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forward to this match come Monday night pentadid versus Ray Phoenix uh hey you got a question for

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but you got a question for you before you jump into it in my head I'm already kind of picturing

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pentadid Roman Reigns Mexico City and in my like we love those like hometown like you know

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Sammy Zane Roman from a few years back in Montreal or no is that Kevin and no Sammy and Roman

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Montreal yeah yeah or even Rob Van Dam John Cena one night stand like do you think we get that kind

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of reaction where it's like 95% for one guy against the other especially when one's the underdog

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like those are some memorable matchups when it's like yes all the like all on paper if they're

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on a neutral field it's all Roman Reigns or it was all John Cena but in this setting in this environment

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that crowd is going to be rocking like that's that's kind of the early vibe I get for this matchup

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if it goes that way of Benson Roman Reigns in Mexico City. Oh I'm totally with you I think any non

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United States crowd for professional wrestling is phenomenal even though like glass guy maybe

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that's just was the edit on the on the on the tape delay that they would dynamite on Wednesday night

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was not really where I hoped it was going to be comparable to other international crowds I fully

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expect it to be a really potentially like once in a lifetime type crowd where I think Mexico City is

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behind their country's hero against the unstoppable Roman Reigns and it makes for a really really

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fun atmosphere for all of us to watch at home so yeah I'm in agreement that I try that I think

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this crowd is is going to be phenomenal in Mexico City. Yeah I'm just imagining all the

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fans I mean it's gonna be fun watching fans do the one finger for the OTC but then do the

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Sarah Mieto for Penson just watching I don't know how many people are being in that building I'm

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guessing many probably 15,000 10,000 15 I don't know how big the arena is but to see that many people

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go against Roman at one time should I mean that to me it reminds me more of Cena Rob Van Dam even

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more so than Sammy and Roman from a nation chamber. Yeah I love those type of atmospheres I love when

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we see performers in an arena or in a country that they can put on their back against the unstoppable

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lots because it feels like it's a thousand versus one and that one individual is someone that is

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really unstoppable to beat and that fits very well with the OTC one in Roman Reigns so I know we're

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jumping the shark here a little bit because we think it's gonna be Penta the match hasn't happened

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yet but I would be shocked if on what is it like September 13th it's not Penta versus Roman Reigns

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in Mexico City for the World Leverweight Championship. Speaking of Roman Reigns and the Bloodline

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Dr. Trey there was another wrinkle into the Bloodline story Royce Keys returned with Bronco

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Neiman Lucien Price and destroyed the Uso Solusakoa and LA Knight to close out Raw this past week.

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Bronco Neiman was recently kicked out of Parrots Day Mall on AAA and we're wondering why well

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there's the reason why OTM is now on the main roster for Monday Night Raw. So one week after we were

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talking about Solo Reject in Roman and Jacob Fattu watching everything unfold there are suddenly

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even more people orbiting this story. I'm interested but I'm also reaching the point where WWE has to

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be careful that adding more people doesn't make the Bloodline story unnecessary complicated again.

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As I was watching this I'm like hey Dr. Trey and I were just talking about this Survivor Series

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War Games. This makes sense. Five on five. Now there's your five. You've got the Royce Keys OTM Solo

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LA Knight on one side. Take it on the Bloodline Fattu the two Uso's Roman Reigns. We just need to add

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one more and then all of a sudden Royce Keys is also taking out Solo and also taking out LA Knight.

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The guys that he tagged with not too many weeks ago at Summerslam. So the big question I have here for

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you Dr. Trey is does adding Royce Keys and OTM make the Bloodline story more interesting or are we

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starting to add too many moving parts again? Interesting for me in the sense of I don't get it.

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Like I haven't figured out the path we're getting to because I don't know if Royce Keys has

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established himself on the main roster to be thrust into a faction leader or like I don't see

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Royce Keys on the level of LA Knight Jacob Fattu Solo or Roman. Maybe a notch below but I just

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don't think they've built enough up built up enough credibility in him. And then once again like OTM

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never been NXT Tag Team Champions and like they they had some good matches but they were never

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the featured guys so to me it's kind of a head scratching move which I guess makes it interesting by

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default but I don't get throwing another three guys in the mix when you really are still working on

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establishing where all the other guys fall so it's kind of a head scratching move for me.

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I don't necessarily if I agree with the head scratching part yet I can understand your perspective.

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I like the added um like outside of the orbit that I did not foresee coming like I figured Royce

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would be back but I didn't think it would be along the lines of of having OTM at his side and I like

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it because it's it's just it's different from what we want to see whenever you see storylines

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rehash stables re re reform whether it's the NWO the four horsemen for the 800 millionth time

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degeneration X even um nothing is as good as the first time I think the only time I would ever say like

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the second go around ones the best is when the DX Army formed after the Shawn Michaels triple H run

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early on and then when he did the stuff with new wage outlaws and Xbox I'd still think that that's

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the best version of degeneration X but with that said it's like you got to make it interesting they're

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going back to the bloodline well how do we make it interesting well the feeling was solo is just

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going to fall in line like Jacob Fart too nope didn't happen LA night is getting an opportunity again to

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kind of run with the ball and see can he play in the sandbox with the main event players cool

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Royce keys was with AW a year ago figured he'd probably just be on a on a on a booking level where he

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was just kind of in a safe spot and and nothing like this heavy involved but here he is very heavy

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involved he's never been in a storyline like this a top storyline um like this and then you've got

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OTM who is a tag team that probably should have run at least with the NXT championship tag team

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championship a couple times they've just been around their popular they're they were acting as baby

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faces I enjoyed their work but they just won't showcase much and now they're getting an opportunity

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to say see can they swim with the sharks on the raw roster in the main roster of WWE so I dig it man

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I do and I'm keeping an open mind because it's an extra layer that I did not see coming and they

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did kind of feed back a little bit more on the Jacob thought to stuff and I'm I'm starting to wonder

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you know is it's fought to going to be turning here is is fought to the Virgil to the Roman Reigns is

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million dollar man keep it right yeah man I don't know if I'd ever think of something comparing Jacob

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thought to the Virgil that's that's yeah how else do you do it right I mean it's like this is the

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guy that's under the thumb of yeah the top star I don't know I don't know who else we can I don't think

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you'll be signing autographs in this New York City subway system or I paid Virgil no it's it's

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at first I thought it'd be more like when Sean Michaels had to work for JBL that weird indentured

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servitude type things where like you know Sean's always kind of poking him but you know he has to

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do it Jacob just fell in line so in a lot of ways it the Virgil Ted D. Viosi comparison session

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not bad and I want to go back I'm not poo pooing the the keys OTM thing I'm just it concerns me when

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you debut somebody knew and then it's kind of start stop start stop they did the injury angle but

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now he's just mad at everybody and like and then bring it up OTM when they really didn't get a

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really great run in NXT it makes me a little nervous because I mean be honest not a lot of the NXT

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guys have had a ton of success right away in the main roster it's just it's an interesting move in

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you're right we didn't see it coming I want to give it another week to kind of flesh out the layers

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behind it and then it's either okay I'm on board or no this is kind of jump the shark and

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let me go back to Smackdown and just watch Sammy Kevin and CM Punk yeah it's it's an interesting

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layer again a little bit unpredictable I'm happy for Royce Keys getting this opportunity and we'll

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see where things go it's ultimately I think this is this is a war game storyline and I wouldn't be

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surprised if either we do like multiple teams which would be cool or we do an LA night solo

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Royce Keys and Company because I think that's what they're going by Royce Keys and Company

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against the bloodline and we do five on five so I'm always thinking about war games now when it comes

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to the bloodline this time of year doctor try yeah Royce Keys and Company sounds like they sell fake

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Rolexes by the way yes Keys and Co I think they'll just go by what I mean it's a stable names of all time

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K&C the sunshine van I'm a thing went that way um but I mean is it possible we get a triple

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throughout war games where you have two three teams of three yeah it's what you know you do yeah like

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Keys and Company LA solo and Jacob and then Roman and the Usos I mean is it's a decent company yes

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by the way if they if if if OTM starts doing like a crime time thing when they start selling knock off

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watches while walking to the ring that would be fantastic as well I was a fan of crime time I must

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admit I love that theme song they were just so much fun but yeah it makes you wonder where

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the things are going um and maybe yeah Jacob thought to eventually aligns himself with solo and

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Ellie and I out of this entire thing I think that would be a little bit too early for my liking

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but I feel like they're moving forward with that a lot quicker than I imagine I thought that this

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was going to be a WrestleMania storyline build on it for for Jacob for a period of time he's the

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he's the killer for Roman Reigns and then maybe Jacob it like like a Batista okay how about this

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for a comparison I said Virgil before maybe he's like the Batista to the Triple H that is Roman Reigns

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and you know you basically rehash that storyline 21 years later calling Batista like they did dumb

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Jacob's dumb and Jacob's over here and Batista was over here in a Jacob enters the rumble wins the

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rumble and decides he's going to be taken on Roman Reigns when Roman's like yeah go win again CM

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punk or something like that and we'll you know rule the world basically like he was trying to do with

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J.U. So not too long ago with King the Ring tournament so lots of play around here another layer on the

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Monday Night Raw side especially when it comes to the bloodline let's look at NXT heat heat wave

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this Sunday from the Bert Ogden arena in Eden's Burg Texas we've got Jada Parker versus Daddy it's

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submission match Miles Bourne defending and Tavion Heights defending the NXT Tag Team Championship

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against Brad Bale and Ricky Smokes Zarya defending her NXT Women's North American championship

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Brent Sinclair defending her WWE Women's Speed Championship in a triple threat match along with

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Cali Armstrong where a winner takes all triple threat match that will unify both the women's North

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American Championship in women's Speed title Miles Bourne defending NXT North American Championship

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against Jackson Drake Kendall Gray defending NXT Women's Championship against Kalani Jordan and

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Tony D'Angelo defending NXT Championship in a fatal four way against Grayson Wall or Cruz Montana

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and Zilla Fah 2 overall doctor trade this feels like a very transitional NXT show to me Miles Bourne

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is pulling double duty to women's championship championship are being unified and Zilla Fah 2

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debuted only a few weeks ago and is already challenging for the NXT Championship that's the match I

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most curious about because Tony D doesn't even need to be pinned to loses championship so I ask you

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the big question here is WWE already ready to go all the way with Zilla Fah 2 or his heat wave

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designed to establish him as a future champion without putting the belt on him yet?

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Yeah I think he waves design to help get him over more because you mentioned Zilla hasn't been

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there long well technically speaking Cruz has only been there two weeks longer than Zilla

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you kind of got to establish both guys in this match and so for me it's more about

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getting Zilla that exposure getting him on that main stage,

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putting him like a main event guy but to me I think this is either this is for Cruz or

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more than anybody else so I think it's more just about let's get both these guys over put one

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on top as a champion let the other guy chase him because Grayson and Tony I mean those guys have

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been around the system for a long time and you can move them back up to the main roster haven't

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do something else and have them get other guys over and it'll be fine as well.

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So who do you think walks out you think it's Cruz Montana? I think it's gonna be Grayson Waller.

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Honestly to me like you've got I think you have to kind of put the belt on one of those two guys

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whether it's Cruz or Zilla I just think Cruz is the more logical choice and then you can branch

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off into Tony and Zilla and Grayson and Cruz and like Grayson and Chase those guys you know

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and that way you're using the establishing H.C. guys to build up the new H.C. guys so

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to me it's I'm gonna lean towards Cruz more than Grayson.

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NXT Heat Wave airs on the CW this Sunday midday doctorate 3 p.m. East to go up against AWOL in

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which starts at like 11 a.m. East on Sunday speaking of AWOL in Dr. Trey the Sunday from Wembley

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Stadium in London England looking at the card here you've got Hangman on a page Bandito and Brodie

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King defending the AW World Trios Championship in an AW Trios roulette royal that includes the

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Bang Bang gang the demand the dogs the death writers the conglomeration and a wild card joker team

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man does AW love the in their tag teams on dry day L. E. L. go entering number one MJ F.

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No entering number two you've got Jericho Champa Commander Mark Davis Nick Wayne

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and additional entrance to be announced for the casino gauntlet match for a future AW World

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Championship opportunity divine to minute to many defend against the brawling birds for the AW

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women's world team championship Kevin Knight defends the TNT championship against Arby Allen

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on false count anywhere match Kyle Fletcher defends the AW International Championship in a triple

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threat match against Ksichko Kadek and Osuke Tikeshka John Moxley defends the AW continental

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championship in the continental challenge cup final against Nigel McGinnis Adam Copeland and

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Christian Cade defend the AW World Tag Team Championship against the Young Bucks will a night and

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gale defense or AW women's world championship against Mercedes Monet and of course the main

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event Kenny Omega defend the AW World Championship against the country hometown boy himself will Osprey

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as I mentioned at the start of the show I wasn't a big fan of the dynamite go home show for AW's

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biggest event of the year four days before returning to Wembley stating my expected considerably

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more urgency from the company there were things I certainly liked Moxley and Claudio delivered

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Nigel McGinnis fighting through the ankle injury to earn Wembley against Moxley gives that

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match a real story Osprey's promo at the start of the show about his journey and what Sunday

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meets him worked as well but as an overall show it didn't make me significantly more excited for all in

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honestly as I mentioned before I thought last week's Omega Osprey segment did considerably more

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to sell me on the main event than the actual go home dynamite and that's my concern with AW heading

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into Sunday this card looks really good but has the build consistently made all-in-field like

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AW's WrestleMania because now the matches have to deliver so I ask you this Dr. Trey did AW do

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enough to make all-in-field like its biggest show of the year or did the disappointing go home dynamite

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leave too much work for Sunday I don't know I'm gonna say I think it's fine I wasn't expecting a

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whole lot from done it's like I said with Osprey don't make it it'd be really hard to have you know

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top what happened last week Mercedes and Nightingale be really hard to top what happened in previous

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week I thought they did enough with kind of building the undercard to make it look on paper like one

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of the most well-rounded solid shows that we've had in quite some time like I'm excited for all in

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there's not a bad match on that card unless Maya World gets on there but outside of that every match

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on there has I guess Maya's my new Mercedes but yeah like there's not a bad match on that card like

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every every match on there I'm like man there's there's some good story lines or some good reasoning

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there's some good logic on paper looks like to be a stacked card so I'm actually this might be the

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most excited I've been about for an AW pay-per-view show and probably the last year I just think from top

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to bottom it's an outstanding card on paper so I don't mind I guess the letdown of Dynamite because

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I think they did enough the previous two weeks to kind of build it up and I agree with you I think

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this is a very strong card I'm excited for the show I hope to God but we know that this is Tony Khan

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that they don't add like three or four more matches to make it a 14 match card and then make it an

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eight hour show I think all in last year in Texas was like an eight hour show like let the guys

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and girls just work it's so good again I'm bashing Dynamite because I really wanted some of this other

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stuff to to like continue forward and and really make this show stand out and look really really

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strong just from an outside like an outside like reading the card on paper perspective like give

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me that little bit more from a creative standpoint that's like man the show is going to be an absolute

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killer I expect it to be but I just want a little bit more from Dynamite and then the last thing I'll

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ask you here Dr. Trey does will Osprey have to beat Kenny Omega and leave Wembley as a W World

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Champion on Sunday night in London yes it's like it's I mean you and I like have talked about this

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since Osprey signed with AEW like this is the guy that at some point needs to be the guy carrying the

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ball he needs to be to steal from Cody Rhodes he needs to be AEW's QB1 and see if you can really build

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off this we've seen them do it with you know whether it was Darby or MJF your other guys like

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Swarve you know Hangman you know getting the ball and trying to see if it elevates the brand

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this is the guy they can see they let's see if he can elevate the brand and you're in his home

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country in front of 50,000 people if you're going to pull the trigger on it you need to pull it now so

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to me unless they do the MJF Swarve like you and I talked about last week I think Osprey has to

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beat Omega in Wembley for the crowd to be happy because otherwise there might be like we talked about

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a little last week it might be a full-blown soccer riot if he does not walk out with the time.

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Yeah the closer we've gotten to the show I do feel like leaning more towards Will Osprey walking

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out as champion that's how the show and I don't think the MJF if he went to casino gauntlet battle

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oil him winning the match we're cashing in at the end of the show is the way that they will go

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I think from a creative state that would have more headlines but also in wrestling sometimes right

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I've heard this recently from someone creative that and I may have been on the unreal Netflix show

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that WrestleMania is like the conclusion of stories and that's where I think all in is and when you go

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to a show like a WrestleMania summer slam and all in you go to that show to see your heroes conquer

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most of the time and that's how the show should end it's in the home country for Will Osprey he should

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be holding up the AW world championship let the flyers streamers fly and let the crowd celebrate a

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victory in Wembley with one of their hometown boys who who got over the hump and did some good

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because Osprey has been waiting a long time I think he's been in AW now for three years contractually

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as a full-time star and when he signed I thought it was one of the biggest signings that they've had

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maybe the biggest signing that they've had since launching and he's played a backseat role to

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Swarth Strickland who was on the rise and rightfully so was on the rise during that period of time he played

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a backseat role last year to Hangman Page breaking out and rightfully so in that period of time well this

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is Osprey's time right now it's been a while since they put the title on him and this is a guy that

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could care the company certainly into the future so I'm excited for this one Will Osprey versus Kenny

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Omega and this this feels like the most predictable match of 2026 right now Dr. Tray and I'm totally fine

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with it Will Osprey winning this match I mean that's really I mean is there another match that feels

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more predictable than this so far I mean everything has been hyped up for him this is like

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Shawn Michaels Bret Hart WrestleMania Army and match the video packages or the stuff that they've

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done on social media is just all about Will Osprey and rightfully so yeah I mean it does well

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pretty good that's why I was gonna ask you I mean technically speaking you have three title matches

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involving British United Kingdom type wrestlers you have obviously Osprey Omega but then you have

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the Brawling Birds against Divine Dominion and then you have Nigel McGinnis because John Moxley do

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all the British people win in Wembley what yeah or do you or do you send somebody home unhappy with

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I think the Brawling Birds win Will Osprey wins who was the other one you mentioned Nigel and Moxley

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I think Moxley probably defeats Nigel and then Moxley gives Nigel like the the handshake not

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of approval that you know he's you know like respects him is that is that the way you kind of end

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that match then well he's been doing that for like almost every match right I know it's so weird by

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the way like you have on one hand you have them like the the deathwriters are heels and one thing

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and then Mox is kind of a baby face and we still haven't got the payoff to Osprey leaving

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the deathwriters there's just like yeah that's weird yeah so I am a little confused but there's

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part me that just wants to see all the British people win but then the you know the Vince McMahon and

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Me goes oh no you're you're in your home country everybody joins the Kiss My Ass Club in your

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hometown so yeah everybody loses yeah it's um it it feels like Osprey's the one them and

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the Brawling Birds are the one that walk out of there Nigel I think would be almost a hero

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in a loss than he would be equal as as a as a victor do you do you think the ankle injury is legit

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I haven't seen anywhere that it is do you think it's legit no I think it's all storyline because that

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way if he loses or if he passes out from Mox having him with some kind of ankle lock you still get the

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the crowd like loving him because he fought over through the adversity in the losing efforts

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it's kind of like Rocky one you know it's like Rocky lost to Apollo in the first fight but the

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crowd is still at it because it's showed hard long as Nigel shows his heart and fights through the pain

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and gets really really close a few times but his body kind of gives out the end he'll still get the

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love and adulation from the audience yeah so should be a fun show this Sunday AW all in and we

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will recap and review it all for you along with NXT Heat Wave on next week's edition of the

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Stoke Real Toad Show and we'll also get you ready for Sunday nights main event in Atlanta GA

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all on next week's edition of SRTU and it until Labor Day weekend here in the United States

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because for the third time in a week I literally saw a car driving in a door pop open so folks when

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you're in your vehicle make sure you keep the doors closed I don't I can't believe this is now a

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common thing I'm seeing but sitting here in the car recording the podcast in Parka lot see a

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car in the park a lot passenger door shoots open and of four year olds like sitting there like with

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a door open so close your doors it's not that hard to do PSA is brought to you by our very own Dr.

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Trey Franklin safety PSA is here on this week's edition of the still roll this show enjoy the weekend

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