Aug. 25, 2023
AEW All In Preview & Predictions | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #706 – 8/24/23

On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show, Jeff & Dr. Trey Franklin:
-- Pay tribute to Terry Funk!
-- Wonder if we just watched Edge's last WWE match?
-- Discuss how important the "AEW All In" show is for the future of the promotion!
-- And we preview & predict "AEW All In!"
On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show, Jeff & Dr. Trey Franklin:
- -- Pay tribute to Terry Funk!
- -- Wonder if we just watched Edge's last WWE match?
- -- Discuss how important the "AEW All In" show is for the future of the promotion!
- -- And we preview & predict "AEW All In!
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It's stupid. Welcome everybody, Welcome
to this week's edition is a real good
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show. Episodember seven hundred and six
for August twenty four, two thousand,
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run three. This your a w
all in preview and Predictions edition of ass
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All Team You. I am one
after show. I am Jeff Peck joined
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every single week on my coast,
the one only Dctor Trey Franklin, Doctor
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Trey, Are you all in?
My friend? Like? What what am
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I? All in? And I'm
not in. I'm not in a rush,
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I'm not in a hurry, I'm
not in any kind of jelly or
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jam and I'm and I'm not in
England, So I guess I'm kind of
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in kind of in. That could
be the next the follow up to all
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in or all out, just so
you do all in all out and then
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another week later you do kind of
in. How about that? Well,
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I think I think you do all
in all out. Then you do shake
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it all about and then the follow
up that is aw hokey poke Okay,
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yeah, just four back to back
to back pay per views like that?
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Actually a hokey pokey sounds like maybe
an impact pay per view. Okay,
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yeah, they do a little bit
more like hardcore wrestling for hokey pokey,
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I mean, but then again,
w to do Great Balls of Fire so
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you might see WW hokey pokey.
All right, we have to reset the
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clock now it has been now the
record was twenty eight days since we last
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reference Great Balls of Fire. Now
we're back down to zero. So for
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a throwaway podcast, and like July
or excuse pay per view in July twenty
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eighteen, we do reference that show
quite often. Do you remember what the
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main event was for that show?
Was it Joe and Brock, Joe and
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Braun? I believe Braun. Okay, yeah, let me make sure I
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got that right. I know it
involved large men flapping meat at Great Balls
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of Fire? Was that how he
teased it? Braun? I don't know,
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but I just took the big E
reference and ran with it right there
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because it made a lot of sense
and the pun was intentional. July twenty
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seventeen. And I believe you're right. It was Brock and Samoa. Joe
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was the headline. I was Ron
and Braun. It was Braun versus Roman
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in an ambulance match that Braun Stroman
actually defeated Roman in and then I think
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we came back and they did Joe
Braun and Brock. They did some kind
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of three way or four way of
those guys too, either right before that
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paper view, were right after that
paper view. Next paper view was battle
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Ground. Let's see here. Battle
Ground was headlined by Gender Mahal defeating Randy
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Orton in a Punjabi prison match.
That was the next show. July two
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was a SmackDown branded show. Yeah, okay, that's right, brace Split
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yeah yeah yeah yeah. So then
wait, so then I'm looking at next
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show would have been Summer Slammer Slam. You may be right on that one.
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Yep, brocka go ahead. That
curs w. We had a match
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where it's like three large men fighting
each other, which was like a basic
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man you know dream Brock versus Braun
versus Roman versus Samoa Joe at Summer Slam
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twenty seventeen. All right, I
was in the ballpark. I forgot Romans
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considered a big man compared to Joe, Braun and Brock. Good memory,
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Good memory there, Doctor Trey so
Brock and Samoa Joe was one of headlined
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that Great Balls of Fire paper viewer
reset. I think Great Balls of fire
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referenced clock here on SRTU have a
Little Fun Too to kick off the show.
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But unfortunately, a couple of hours
ago, we did receive news that
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w WE Hall of Famer Terry Funk
had passed away. I mean, one
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of the most influential wrestlers I feel
like of all time, doctor Trey.
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I mean, he was a regular
professional wrestler that dabbled into brawling, that
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dabbled into hardcore wrestling, revitalized his
career at several points. Really is one
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of the reasons why ECW got so
big in the late nineties was the inclusion
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of Terry Funk. Truly, truly, truly a one of a kind talent.
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I mean, very sad news tonight
do Tray Too to kick off the
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show here, as we learned that
Terry Funk had passed away. Sadly,
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Yeah, I heard about it on
my drive in from Tennessee today to get
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back home, and it wasn't surprising. The last pictures we saw Terry,
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he wasn't in great shape. And
you know, like I'm for being a
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wrestling fan for forty years, I
didn't get into Terry Funk, and really
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the appreciation of Terry Funk until much
later in his career. Like my first
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memory of Terry Funk is the back
to back matches he had with Rick Flair
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at WCW when they brought him in
as a basically a play by play guy,
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and then he attacked Flair after the
Steamboat trilogy. Pile drove up to
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the table and I was like,
ooh, I hate that guy. And
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then my dad is the one who
taught, you know, told me more
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about Terry Funk. We saw him
in Roadhouse and then ECW launch and I
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learned more about him. And then
you know, you're just like, oh
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my god, Like this guy's influenced
with me people, and you know,
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kind of a technical wrestler and then
a brawler. And then you know,
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we saw this stuff in ECW and
this stuff, you know, started catching
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the videos of stuff with him and
Captain's Jack and Japan, and then you're
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like wow, and then you know
the attitude are he reinventing himself again and
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putting on panty hose and then all
the way through now like the man is
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legitimately that there will never be another
guy like Terry Funk. I mean,
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the man, the man was Middle
Asian crazy, for fifty years, So
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I mean, I mean, I
don't know about you. The closest thing
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we have to a Terry Funk right
now is maybe a John Moxley. But
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you know, his influence throughout wrestling, whether it was the Texas guys or
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you know, the Fucking Nojo or
the hardcore wrestlers, their deathmatch wrestlers,
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or the gimmick wrestlers. Like,
his influence spans so many styles of wrestling
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that it's really really incredible to see
how much I don't say paved the way
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for guys, but like really just
opened doors and open up eyes to different
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styles of wrestling. So just one
of the most well rounded wrestlers in the
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history of our business. So from
a personal standpoint, I had the absolute
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pleasure and honor to interview Terry Funk
about thirteen years ago. When I heard
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the news, I immediately thought of
that interview and everything that led up to
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it. So at that period of
time, I was on this podcast called
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The Wheelhouse with Mike Bower and Chris
Cause and we've made available this podcast as
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well, which I'll get to.
And we had a fantastic relationship with Ring
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of Honor Wrestling with Kerry Silkin when
he owned the company. I was going
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to like every New York City show
in two thousand and nine, twenty ten,
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and then into two thousand and eleven
before they sold to Sinclair Broadcast Group.
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So for every one of their shows
in New York, they would always
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be so kind to give us some
sort of wrestler to interview, and I
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would interview Claude Doocasticnolie, at one
point interviewed Roderick Strong. Had this opportunity
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time and time again, and then
we were pitched the opportunity to interview Terry
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Funk, who for Glory by Honor
I believe it was nine in two thousand
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ten, he was acting as the
special enforcer outside the ring for the Tyler
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Black rogeris Wrong match for the ROH
World Championship. Tyler Black now known as
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Seth Rons. It was his last
match of ring Vroon and Wrestling before going
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to WW and Terry Funk was involved. So we had the opportunity to interview
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Terry Funk to promote the show and
leading into it, like Roh gave me
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his home phone number and him and
I played phone tag and it was on
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my old phone. I wish I
still had it, but Terry Funk like
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leaves me this voicemail and it was
like him asking his wife, like,
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you know, do I leave a
message. It was like listening to this
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elderly man who wasn't up on technology
but was also a wrestling legend, like
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leave this very funny, like grandpa
esque voicemail on my phone. And it
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was so cool. And then we
led into interviewing him days later. That
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day later, and it was one
of the first real big interviews we ever
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had on our podcast, and it
was Terry Funk, and I think we
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talked to him for like thirty to
forty five minutes. And to make a
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long story short, we we we
actually interviewed him on August twenty fourth,
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twenty ten, nearly thirteen years the
day where he passes away ago, which
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is insane that it was a raid
around this time as well, and the
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day that this podcast drops is on
August twenty four, twenty twenty three,
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thirteen years later. That we've made
this podcast available. Right now, it's
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up on realgutrader dot com. By
the time that this podcast drops, it
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should be up on our subscription feeds, up on iTunes and everywhere else,
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and I encourage everybody to listen to
it. Obviously it's a bit dated.
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You'll hear us be talking about stuff
that was going on woe at the time,
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but it was so cool to talk
to Terry Funk about his career.
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It's it's a broadcasting highlight doc tray, and it was like the first real
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instance that I got to interview somebody
that like I knew and it wasn't some
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sort of blogger or anything like that
that we were doing at the time.
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It was Terry freaking Funk, who
was a deb WE Hall of Famer,
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a wrestling legend, and it was
such an honor to speak with him,
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and I had that honor and I'll
remember it forever and I'm looking forward to
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listening back to that podcast. I
immediately went back and I found an article
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that quoted our show, so that
I went back into my old archives,
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got the podcast center over to Bauer. Bauer put it up on the website
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and has made it available for download, So it's gonna be a lot of
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fun to go back and listen to
that. And again, I just it
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was an honor, it was an
honored privilege to talk to him and I'm
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very sad and about the news today. But the career in the life of
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Terry Funk was was one of a
one in a million doctor Trey. He
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was a one in a million person. Yeah, I mean it's amazing me
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because you know, we talked about, you know, we spent a lot
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of time over the past few years
talking about the bloodline, the usos,
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you know, other family or blood
you know relations, and a lot of
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those guys are very very similar in
their styles. And then you look at
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Terry Funk and Dory Funk Junior as
professional wrestlers in the early days, they
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were very similar. But you know, the path that Terry went down was
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so different from his older brother,
I mean just two almost completely polar opposite
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personalities and everything else. And you
know, by all accounts, like I've
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had an outpouring of people from you
know, the independent scene here in Tennessee
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talking about like appearances Terry made and
you know what a great guy was.
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Actually one of my one of my
friends that was in wrestling before I got
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in in Arkansas was telling the story
about how he had worked a show and
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then had to drive straight from the
show to the airport to pick Terry Funk
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up and he was still basically in
his wrestling gear and you know, throwing
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a pair of shorts and a T
shirt over, like one of his own,
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like you know, T shirts from
his merchable. It gets to the
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airport, he's all stressed out because
it's Terry freaking Funk. He gets there
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for realizes Funk's plane got in five
minutes earlier than schedules, so he's stressing
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that Terry Funk's been waiting on this
young independent wrestler. And he walks,
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you know, he walks in,
looks around, he sees Terry Funk,
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and he goes he didn't have to
call out to him, like Terry just
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looked at him. That's a wrestler. He just walks right up to him,
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introduced himself. They got in the
car, and then a two hour
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drive from the Little Rock Airport or
a Little Rock Airport to Batesville, Arkansas.
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He's like the highlight was literally him
just talking to Terry Funk the entire
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time. And he was supposed to
be in a tag match with him and
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Terry against Brian Christopher and Rakishi and
Rikishi no showed or not no, but
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just couldn't make it, and they
moved Terry Funk to be in the special
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guest referee. He's like, that's
just one of those memories I will never
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ever forget, just because of how
gracious and how willing he was to do
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whatever the promo her ass And that's
one of those little life lessons as a
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young wrestler. He took away from
it was, Hey, you're never too
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big for this sport. And I
think he's always he always retained that it
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was appreciative to everybody came in contact, whether they were you know, top
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of the car main event and one
of the major promotions, or you know,
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a green guy in his second year
of wrestling. He's just you know,
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like we've talked about years ago with
Tracy's mothers, he's just one of
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those guys that just seems universally loved
and revered across the board about you know,
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with everybody who came in contact with
him. Yeah, that's such a
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cool story. He was such a
nice guy and just my very small interactions
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with him, and he didn't need
to be I mean, he's he's a
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living legend. And it was like, listened back to the podcast that we
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made available. It's like talking to
an old friend that's talking about his career.
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Talking to him on the phone when
we were setting up the interview was
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he could not have been more nice, you know, and it was just
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it was just a really cool experience
and it's one that I'll never forget.
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I mean, it was legit,
like the It was the first big name
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I ever interviewed in my entire broadcasting
career. And I'm so happy I found
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the podcast to make available and pay
tribute to Terry Funk, who sadly passed
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away today. It's a it's a
sad day, but we remember an honor
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the life and career of one Terry
Funk, because I mean, things would
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not be where they were today if
it wasn't for Terry Funk, his battles
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with Rick Flair, the way that
he helped carry ec W forward, just
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being always a wrestler's wrestler. He's
one of a kind and we'll be missed
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and we send our condolences to all
the family, friends, and of course
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fans of Terry Funk and his passing
today. Rest in peace, Terry Funk.
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There's no easy way to transition out
of paying tribute to a legend other
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than talking about a legend whose potential
WWW career ended. This past Friday on
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SmackDown, Edge in a match with
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WWW in his hometown of Toronto,
Ontario, Canada. His contract is expiring
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soon. We don't know if he's
gonna stick with w he says he doesn't
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know. We don't know if he's
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to go somewhere else, to a
or like an AW. Well, we
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might have gotten some lightshd on the
story today as PW Torch is reporting the
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following and this comes straight from their
article stating Edge wrestled his last match on
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his current w WE contract on Friday. His contract expires, according to Edge
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on the Fan Morning Show at the
end of September. It's not known if
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he has any non compete period afterward, but there's a lot of buzz that
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he is a W bound. PW
Torch has learned that Adam Copeland aka Edge,
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presented to w W what would take
to retain his services, but WWW
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declined to meet his requests. This
is sparked to believe within WW that he's
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probably headed at AW and new at
the time what AW could offer him,
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based perhaps on conversations with other wrestlers
of a star power about AWPA. Tony
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Khn is a big fan of Edge, it certainly would value adding him to
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the roster, either as a wrestler
or in some other role. Also,
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Christian Cage is a longtime friend of
Copeland and is prominently featured on AW television,
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so linking it together in some way
on TV would be natural. Edge
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received the big celebration of his w
here on Friday SmackDown because he's well liked
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within WWE management doesn't resent the possibility
to go to a w and that's what
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PW Torch had reported today Wednesday,
August twenty three, as we record on
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Wednesday night while AW Dynamite is airing. So lots of speculation here Doctor Trey
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that Adam Copeland Edge could be AW
bound prior to him returning in twenty twenty.
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I believe in late two and nineteen
he was approached by Tony conn and
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AW. He never just come out
fully and said that, but he basically
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alludes to. I believe there was
like a W twenty four on Edges return,
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and that's what led to him going
to he was made an offer and
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he went to w w WE and
said, well, you know, I
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owe it to them. Let me
see if if they'll match it and bring
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me back as a professional wrestler.
W WE didn't match it, brought him
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back, and then obviously the rest
is history because he's been with the companies
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since two thy twenty, returning out
to the Royal Rumble in January twenty and
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twenty, and here he is now
potentially on his way out of WWE,
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possibly had an AW Doctor Trey,
how do you how do you take all
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in all this news here? Do
you think we last we watched Edges last
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match in w WE? Uh,
I'm gonna say yes. And that's that's
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what he cut with the cava that
the wrestlers are wrestlers, and and you
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know, guys like Edge and Christian
and you other guys have been rather as
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a long time ago how to use
leverage when an issue. But you know,
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when you when you look at the
AW schedule and you look at basically
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guaranteed pay and you look at you
know, not only is one of his
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best friends there, but he also
has history with Don Callis as well.
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You know it does make a lot
of sense for him to you know,
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make a move and go over there. And you know, if he presented
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an offer WB and they declined to
meet those demands, I think they kind
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of know that that, you know, the possibilities there. So uh,
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right now, I'm gonna say,
yeah, that was probably his last match
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in WWE, because if he does
go to a w I just don't think
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by the time that contract would be
up that he would. I just don't
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see Adam Copeland being that, you
know, I don't I don't see him
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being staying and wrestling at sixty.
So you know, for a guy in
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his early fifties, that this might
be a chance for him to go out
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there help some younger guys and you
know, potentially get another edge Christian argue
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boy matchup, edge Christian young buck
matchup, things like that. I that
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seems like really fun, you know, matches for you know, Adam Coplan
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to get involved with and really wind
his career down doing some fun stuff like
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that with guys he's probably never wouldn't
have the chance to work with. If
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he stays in WWE. Where would
you prefer to see Himenda Square? Would
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you prefer to see Himenda Square in
ww or in AW. I mean I
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prefer see WWE because I just don't
know what the name Adam you know,
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you know, coming from Toronto,
Kata Adam Copeland has the same ring to
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it as Edge, you know.
But I mean obviously most of these guys,
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like the lifers, like Edge has
basically been a lifer, like he
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really after he first on the senor
ww he's never been anywhere else, And
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so those guys when they go to
other promotions, it just feels odd.
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Like I still can't wrap my head
around Bret Hart wc W. Like it
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doesn't you go back and watch those
old videos. It doesn't look right.
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Can you wrap your head around staying
to would be? Wait? No,
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Like it just doesn't look right,
you know, it's weird, like and
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it may be the way that I'm
but use the phrase it's the light I've
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always seen them in, but it
is the production lighting and like how they
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look like it just looks off,
you know. So yeah, I mean
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I almost forget this thing. I
mean we've talked about the show, but
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I almost forget this thing was in
WWB because it was kind of like that
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year long cup of coffee. So
to speak, it's kind of the same
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thing with you know, like I
said Brett Hart WCW, it took me
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a long time to get you seeing
Hulk Hogan in WCW when he jumps over
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there, or Rick Flair when he
first came to w W E. You
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know, like Macho Man in w
W two was weird. It kind of
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took them to actually change their entire
look. Like when Hogan went to Hollywood
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Macho Man star doing the black and
white stuff. I'm like, all right,
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that seems like a different character.
I can kind of see that separately
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from the red and yellows. But
then even when Hogan came to w E
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as nWo Hollywood, I'm like,
that doesn't look right. It's just it
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always seems kind of living off for
a while. So you know, it's
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like, you know, seeing your
favorite baseball player or NFL player. It's
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like Jet, You're gonna go through
this year, Aaron Rodgers as a jet,
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Yeah, you know, Brett Farve
as a jet. You know,
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me seeing Joe Montana as a chief
or Jerry Rice as a raider like it,
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or Trey Lance is the third string
quarterback. No that I'm okay with,
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But it's just you see these things. You're like that it just doesn't
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make sense. And it's Smith as
a cardinal, Like you're just like,
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it's almost it's almost don't want to
say it's sad, but it is kind
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of like a little bit of a
disappointment at time when you Bronco he got
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a Super Bowl though, so like
he did Tom Brady as a Buck.
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Yeah, but you know, it's
just it's just things you see. You're
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like, that's odd, especially when
you first see now when you got to
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Brady year three as a Buck,
you're like, all right, yeah,
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I'm kind of used to it now. But wrestling is a different a different
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animal a lot of ways. Like
you see you guys, like I mean,
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seeing Moxley in AW the first time, you're like, whoa, that's
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kind of odd. Now that he's
been there for three years, say with
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Chris Jericho, the first time you
see, you're like, that's kind of
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weird looking, and then now you're
like, all right, it makes sense.
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Cody, when he came back to
WWE with the AW gimmick, it's
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like, it's cool, but it
takes a little while for your brain to
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process it and make it normal.
I guess yeah. It's it's We're so
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used to it in wrestling, but
I just feel like there are times where,
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especially towards the later end of the
career, it's funny you bring up
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Jericho, like Jericho in AW it's
it's been forty years now and he's a
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main staying AW a former AW World
Champion. But there is a huge part
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of me, as a Chris Jericho
fan that wants to see one last match
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in WWW, like that's where I
believe his career should end. And I
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don't think that will ever happen now. I don't forever foresee Chris Jericho leaving
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AW and going to w W because
the allure of joining a company that is
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a little bit more lax than the
grind of WWE is what's a very which
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is very appealing to wrestlers, and
that, to me, is is why
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potentially Edge is making that jump.
And I think edgees is making that jump
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because there's more or potentially making that
jump because there's more opportunities for him that
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he would like to accomplish to close
out his career. I mean, you're
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you're talking about tagging with Christian again. I didn't I don't think Christian is
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going to come to Towe anytime,
seeing the Hardys are both in AW.
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If they want to have a Edging
Christian Hardy's match, that's going to have
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to happen in AW now, Edging
Christian versus FTR, Edging Christian versus the
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Young Bucks, Edge Wrestling in New
Japan, Edge Wrestling, MJF Adam Cole,
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whoever see him punk again, will
Losspray, whoever Kenny Omega like?
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There just seems to be more opportunities
in AW for a professional wrestler than there
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is in WWE. Like w E
is the global corporate conglomerate that it has
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WrestleMania, SummerSlam, the stadium shows. But if you're a wrestler who's accomplished
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all that and your itches to wrestle
some of your friends and accomplish some dream
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scenarios like look at the path that
Brian Danielson took by leaving WWE, AW
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is more appealing. So it's a
tough pill to swallow because to me,
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again, Edge should finish his career
in w WA. There should not be
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a period of time where Edge had
left w to go wrestle in AW.
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In my opinion, as a fan, it just seems perfect that he is
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with the WE family and that's where
he finished his career. Some people are
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w WE guys, some people are
AW guys, And I just feel like
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at this part important his career,
I don't I don't want to see him
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go to a W Obviously we'll get
used to it, but it's a it's
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a tough pill to swallow as an
EDGE fan, because, you know,
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do we want to run where he's
recognized as Adam Copeland? Does he work
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out something with w W where he
could use the name Edge? Is he
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the Edge? Is he like something
stupid like Edge Copeland? You know I
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would what's that? Adah Adam Edge? Like? I don't know. I
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got the feeling that his career was
ending this past Friday on SmackDown, not
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potentially continuing in AW. But this
report is seems pretty like a fore gone
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conclusion to me that in two three
months from now we have Edge in AW.
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There's a lot of dream match scenarios
that we'll see play out. It's
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just a matter of do we want
to see it play out at this point
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in his career, Like, this
is not an Adam Cole jumping from w
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e too. You know a w
this is a guy who only has a
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couple more years left under his belt. And where do we want to see
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that final match take place? Is
my thing? And I think for a
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guy like Edge, it should happen
in w W. A yeah, I
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agree with that then, And then
I thought as you were talking, I
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thought about the concept and a couple
of things though. One is if if
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he does go to WWE, does
that mean that when Beth's contracts up,
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she might make appearances in a AW
and then we might get Beth and Brett
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Baker or Beth and Edge against Adam
Colin Brett Baker, Like there's there are
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some dream matches for Beth Phoenix in
AW as well if she decided to go
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that path of good thing. And
this is a topic for our show maybe
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on a on a week or we're
a little bit slower. We don't have
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like a five hour pay per view
coming up, but a couple of those
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coming up. Now. Yeah,
when when you talk about guys making that
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jump, these guys and they're older, stay just making that jump to AW.
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And we've had this conversation on the
show about has AW ever built you
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know, has a TOW built up. Any homegrown stars outside of baby MJF
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that are over with the crowd,
maybe a yeah, But is it you
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know, for the law of the
I mean, those were guys that were
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like kind of on that pillar thing
when they moved over. But you look
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at, you know, some of
the other guys that are maybe a little
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bit lower, you know, a
private party, are they really over to
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the other guys that they've brought in. But those guys who are over,
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they can go anywhere they want to
and they're gonna get a crowded reaction.
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So the allure of AW when you're
already over and don't have to work as
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hard, is really compelling. But
if you're a younger guy and you're still
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trying to establish yourself, maybe going
to NXC is the right route because they
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can kind of teach you how to
get over, maybe better than what aw's
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done. I look at a guy
like Brian Pillman Jr. Who's making that
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jump over to WW here the next
month or so, we'll see him in
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NXC. But some of those guys
that are younger and got that contract,
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having established themselves, and if you're
not getting over on AW, are you
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average you're gonna be able to get
over anywhere else. Interesting point. Yeah,
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so we'll see here Edge possibly wrestling
his last WE match in his career
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and could very well be on his
way to All Elite Wrestling. Speaking of
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AW doctor Trey, we will pre
if you predict aw all In here in
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momententarily, but let's talk about it
before we get into the show itself.
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How important is this AW all In
show for the future of the promotion and
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this Sunday over eighty thousand people Wembley
Stadium, London, England, they revived
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the all In brand for All Elite
Wrestling. Will be the first time that
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AWS ran an all in show and
they're doing it. They're promoting it as
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the biggest wrestling crowd in history.
I know they are approaching the WRESTLEMANE thirty
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two record, which was over I
believe eighty two eighty three thousand. So
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it's very well possible little week from
now that this show has surpassed that and
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will be recognized from an attendance standpoint. Sorry wrestlemany three that it was the
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biggest wrestling show attended in history,
which is kind of a surprise because up
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until the last couple of months,
Aw's creative has not been that great,
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so it is the allud just to
create history and be there for the first
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debut show over in London, England. They've been good as of late,
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but sometimes when you look at the
card, people are like, I don't
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know about this doing back to back
shows as well. There's been a lot
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of back and forth about that.
But nonetheless, taking a step back from
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all that again, I asked the
question, how important is all in this
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Sunday for the future of the promotion? By the way, I think it
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00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:19.519
was named another pay per view for
them. They could do all in,
404
00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:23.400
all out and then all that there
you go. Okay, a little nod
405
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to the Nickelodeon show, Yes exactly, But I think those shows really really
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important to them. And I don't
want to say it's like a turning point
407
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or a fork in the runners like
that, But when you're gonna have this
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many eyes on your product and you're
going out there, you're saying, hey,
409
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this is gonna be the largest wrestling
crowd in the history of wrestling,
410
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You're gonna get some mainstream attention from
that as well, and so from that
411
00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:52.160
alone, you want to make sure
you're on point. I mean, if
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we have you know, production gaps
or pyro gaps or things like that,
413
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it's going to be even more magnified
on this stage where you know, you're
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casual. Like the one thing we
talked about, you have to get the
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eyes of the casual wrestling fans on
your product in order to grow. You
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can't just stay tied into the diehards. Here's your chance to grab some those
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casual fans because they're gonna hear about
on ESPN, they're gonna hear about on
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CBS Sports, they're gonna hear about
different outlets that about how big this show
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is and everything else. If you
have a pyro incident like you have with
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you know, the barbed wire match, or you know any of these other
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like weird things that have happened,
and we just go, oh, like
422
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we just kind of grow because grown, because it's a growing pain. On
423
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this stage, it's gonna get magnified
even bigger. So it's an opportunity for
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them to grab some more casual fans
and bring to their product. But at
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the same time, you just don't
want those huge mistakes that make you look
426
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like a minor league team playing a
major League stadium, so you's got to
427
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be mindful of that as well.
Looking at the overall card right now,
428
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touch train and I know you don't
have at top of mind right now.
429
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We'll run through it here momentarily.
But there is a lot of social media
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chatter that the build for this show
has been lackluster. I mean, AW
431
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is right and rightfully so ramping this
up in a huge way as a massive
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turning point for the promotion, And
there is a lot writing on this Sunday
433
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show, and rightfully so, like
I'm very happy for AW to accomplish what
434
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they have and all wrestling fans should
be voting for rooting for that as well.
435
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:38.920
The tribalism of being like that I
hope they fail and all that shit,
436
00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:42.839
it's just ridiculous, because this is
good for wrestling. That a promotion
437
00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:48.039
not named WWE is able to get
over eighty thousand people in a stadium in
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a country that they have never been
to before. This is a huge accomplishment
439
00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:57.839
and the success of the show is
tenfold important for the future of the AW
440
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promotion because this could be the end
of the first chapter of a w and
441
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taking it to the next chapter and
helping it get closer and closer to a
442
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:10.039
you know, a one B or
one A. However, you want to
443
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look at it as an equal to
a WE in the eyes of everybody around
444
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the world, rather than a quote
secondary promotion. Nonetheless, the card has
445
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been chastised in a way. What
do you think of the build? What
446
00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:28.200
did you think of the build?
What do you think of the formation of
447
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it? Are you getting what you
want to see this Sunday during this historic
448
00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:37.920
show. I mean I'm getting some
of what I want. I mean,
449
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:42.720
MJF Adam Cole on papers a match, I would want to see the build
450
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for this match in this setting I
think is different. I mean, usually,
451
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if I'm heading into a show where
I know we're going to put sixty
452
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seventy thousand people in the stadium,
whether it's a Wrestlingmania, Summer Slam,
453
00:32:58.160 --> 00:33:01.839
something like that, you know something
this magnitude, I want that main event
454
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to feel like it's going to be
a fight. I want that. I
455
00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:09.359
want those casual fans. I want
those people that, for lack of a
456
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:15.279
better term, think it's still real
to them. I want them to buy
457
00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:20.079
into the animosity and this is kind
of like that they've done the whole friendship
458
00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:22.799
angle leading into this match, and
I'm like, okay, so we're playing
459
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:28.319
the competitive friend angle instead of the
animals angle. So that makes me a
460
00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:32.119
look at Leary, you look at
the Stadium Stampede match, like those are
461
00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:38.039
fun matches and enjoyable, but you
know, would I rather see you know,
462
00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:43.680
Omega and Orho. I rather see
you know, a singles match or
463
00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:49.359
a tag match with animosity and anger
and victual build to it. So to
464
00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:52.279
me, something like this, some
of these matches had a one week build
465
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or a two week build, and
they've never really gone face to face with
466
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stuff like it's not it feels like, for lack of a better term,
467
00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:08.000
like when a kid tries on his
daddy's shoes. It's huge and it's fun,
468
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:13.039
but it's not the same as when
dad puts his shoes on and goes
469
00:34:13.079 --> 00:34:16.800
to work, and it almost feels
like it's the indie show trying to be
470
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WWE in the presentation, but the
build is not on the level of what
471
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we get to for a SummerSlam or
Amania or a Rumble for that matter.
472
00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:31.159
So that's where I think the difference
is. I think that's where the backlash
473
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has come from. Folks on the
build up to this, to this show.
474
00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:38.039
Yeah, and I think maybe this
is a reflection of a promotion that
475
00:34:38.199 --> 00:34:40.840
is not used to this opportunity,
doctor Try. I mean, it's that
476
00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:45.519
fair to say that, Like they're
there. They don't have the record of
477
00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:52.199
being able to build towards massive stadium
shows like this like WWE has with Wrestlemanian
478
00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:58.960
SummerSlam, and you're kind of seeing
that newer promotion, you know, less
479
00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:01.199
than five years. I think that's
a fantastic points something I have not thought
480
00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:06.599
about until you said it as the
reason why the build for a show like
481
00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:09.800
this has not been up to snub
to the level of promotion that AW is
482
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:15.000
giving it. Yeah. I mean
and once again, like you and I
483
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:19.880
after this show, like when you
look at the AW calendar, what is
484
00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:23.039
their big build to show every year? Yeah? Is it all out?
485
00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:27.400
Is it's you know, one of
the other one, Like is it?
486
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:30.280
What's what are you building towards?
I mean you look at WWB, they
487
00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:36.000
were always building towards SummerSlam. Stark
I mean w W E or WCW NWA
488
00:35:36.039 --> 00:35:39.840
for years. There's always buildings.
A stark impact is bound for Glory Ring
489
00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:45.159
of honor final Battle, you know, or you know, like we always
490
00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:47.639
had penultimate shows that you were building
towards. I don't think AW does that,
491
00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:52.119
and I'll one hand it is I
don't want to say lack of experience,
492
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:57.199
but it is almost like a cocky
attitude, like, Hey, we're
493
00:35:57.239 --> 00:36:00.599
gonna keep doing what we're always doing
because it's been working for us. But
494
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:06.559
this is a different setting than what
you're typically in and you've had I mean,
495
00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:07.760
how long ago was the Women we
same show now? It's like four
496
00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:12.079
months ago? Five months? Yeah, April? Yeah, So why have
497
00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:15.880
you not been building now since April
to get to this? Like all storylines
498
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:20.760
lead to this show knowing you're gonna
have more eyes on the product than you
499
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:29.039
typically do. So it's almost either
inexperience or bravado that they really haven't changed
500
00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:31.559
their modus operati leading into it.
And dear God, I just used a
501
00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:36.679
lot of big words that so I
used ten ultimate most operatic, Jesus Christ,
502
00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:38.239
what the hell's wrong with me today? And Doctor Trey's doing Mortal.
503
00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:45.760
I feel like they went into this
show building didn't like they do any other
504
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:51.119
normal pay per view, and I
think that is where they were wrong.
505
00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:57.519
In that sense. I have loved
the MJF Adam Cold storyline, Like I
506
00:36:57.519 --> 00:37:00.599
think it has been a lot of
fun and enjoy to watch, and it's
507
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:05.440
gone in a direction I did not
think it was going to go and making
508
00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:08.760
MJF a baby face, and I
think to this point that he is barring
509
00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:14.039
a turn going to be a baby
face moving forward. So that was really
510
00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:15.920
cool. But you think about that, I mean, that's the main event
511
00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:19.840
match, and I'm very happy and
proud for those two guys, But you
512
00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:23.599
asked yourself, It's like, was
that build and this match the one that
513
00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:30.960
should be headlining all In? And
I don't know the direction of this build
514
00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:35.440
for all In. Maybe this shouldn't
have been used for this type of show,
515
00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:38.000
Maybe it should have been something bigger. I still say, and maybe
516
00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:42.159
this is what's the hang up for
me, the fact that we're not getting
517
00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:45.440
CM Punk and FTR versus Kenny Omegan
the Young Bucks in a main event at
518
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:50.280
all In. It's just very telling
about how bad the backstage Jerry is in
519
00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:57.239
aw right now. Like the fact
that's not happening is like atrocious. I
520
00:37:57.239 --> 00:38:00.800
mean that was the moneymaker. You
guys could not put your your differences are
521
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:08.440
that bad that you could not headline
this show, of all shows where people
522
00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:15.280
want to see those two groups feud
because of the real life beef between them,
523
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:19.360
especially see them Punk in the elite. They couldn't come to do it
524
00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:22.079
is like mind boggling to me.
Maybe that's where it's a personal hang up
525
00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:24.679
for me. But I mean,
as I look at this card and we'll
526
00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:30.000
preven predict it here, it just
doesn't I don't think it does it for
527
00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:34.119
me? Doctor Try. I gotta
be honest. I wish there was some
528
00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:37.599
better build for a lot of these
matches. Yeah, not to mention,
529
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:46.480
you could have done a WrestleMania rematch
on this show that actually had a little
530
00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:51.199
bit of backstage anamossa. You could
have done Jericho and Punk yep. I
531
00:38:51.280 --> 00:38:57.400
was just thinking that. And we
know after brawl Out that there was some
532
00:38:57.559 --> 00:39:01.480
contention between Jericho and Punk and they've
said that they've kind of hashed that out.
533
00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:05.639
But you could have done that.
You know, you look at the
534
00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:09.239
stuff with what's his name talk,
I can't pronounce his name, Takashita,
535
00:39:10.679 --> 00:39:15.760
Canosia, Takeshka, t Keshka,
are we doing it? Takeshka and Omega
536
00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:21.400
at all at the show we are
where they're doing this sex man tag team
537
00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:25.000
match, but once again, it's
not a singles match, and that was
538
00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:28.960
one of the most brutal beat downs
we saw a few months back, and
539
00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:31.920
they still haven't done a singles one
on one match to play off that.
540
00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:36.880
But we're getting in this six man
It's like, guys, some of this
541
00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:40.760
stuff is basic wrestling, Like like
you said, I love the MJF Adam
542
00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:45.639
Cole storyline, I really do,
but this build up feels like you're building
543
00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:52.039
to a secondary pay per view to
get the turn of one of these guys
544
00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:55.400
on the other to then lead to
the bigger show. And that's one of
545
00:39:55.400 --> 00:39:58.800
the things that means always done really
well is like, hey, if it's
546
00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:02.960
a B show, hey we made
do a turn post match to then lead
547
00:40:04.039 --> 00:40:07.199
to we just thought a Summer Slam
for crying out loud. We saw,
548
00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:12.719
you know, Jay Usso turn on
Roman. They beat up as brother to
549
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:16.440
build a Summer Slam, and that's
how it's done. I mean, you
550
00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:21.159
look at Russellmania like outside, I
mean, Roman Cody was not in that
551
00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:23.880
same area of says, but look
you look at Sammy and Kevin against the
552
00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:30.400
USO's like, you're building that contention
to pay off at your bigger events,
553
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:35.599
And I think that's one thing they
haven't done very well is lay out to
554
00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:37.320
the fans, Hey, this is
our A show. These are our A
555
00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:43.039
shows, these are our B shows
on pay per views, So that way,
556
00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:46.960
you know what you're kind of getting
into. Like, I love that
557
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their storytelling for the most part on
a lot of this stuff, it's been
558
00:40:50.440 --> 00:40:53.320
great. But even FTR and the
Bucks, you and I talked about a
559
00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:58.159
couple of weeks ago, like it's
a great matchup, this is the what
560
00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:01.599
the rubber match or the second match, third match rubber matchup, But once
561
00:41:01.639 --> 00:41:06.840
again, play back into this,
like, have some actual interactions between these
562
00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:12.480
guys, have some back and forth, even if it is friendly competitive battle
563
00:41:12.519 --> 00:41:15.639
between two the top tag teams in
the world, you know, have something
564
00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:19.280
go back and forth other than just
like you know, a little bit of
565
00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:22.079
appointing, a little bit of a
slight no like build up a little bit
566
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:25.800
of stuff in there to make me
feel like, hey, these guys have
567
00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:30.039
a personal issue, not just a
competitive issue on who's the best tag team
568
00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:35.079
in the world. Like just those
little subtle tweaks would be fine, but
569
00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:39.519
we get a lot of like last
second booking for this show and some storylines
570
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:44.960
that are great, but maybe for
you know, a Fighter Fast or you
571
00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:47.599
know one of the other pay per
views that you know are kind of down
572
00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:51.280
down the pipe a little bit to
get to this. I mean, it's
573
00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:53.559
just they have so many things they
could have done that would make sense.
574
00:41:53.559 --> 00:41:59.119
I mean, you put Jericho and
Punk in Wembley Stadium. Hey, there's
575
00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:01.719
your headliner. Well, so like
the diehard fans, yeah, Adam Cole,
576
00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:06.119
MJF We're buying into. But those
casual fans, if they're like,
577
00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:09.239
hey, we got Jericho and Punk, which is a WrestleMania rematch in Wembley
578
00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:14.079
Stadium in front of ninety thousand people, and that was one of my favorite
579
00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:17.280
WrestleMania matches because it's underrated because it
was so stiff and hard hitting with some
580
00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:22.639
real life trauma behind it exactly,
you know, like pay that off,
581
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:24.880
bring that back up, and that
way you're still not that way, you
582
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:29.960
can still save Punk and Kenny Omega
for another show, and you and I
583
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:32.559
aren't complaining about it, because hey, we can look at that real life
584
00:42:32.639 --> 00:42:37.400
drama they had, plus their history, and I'm on board with that match,
585
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:42.920
and that's just to me, match
making, simple building one on one,
586
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:45.559
and it just kind of frustrates me
when I look at it, like
587
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:52.039
they're still booking super indie shows on
a setting that is a WrestleMania type setting
588
00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:58.079
for a potentially turning point show in
their company history. Last question I want
589
00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:01.079
to ask you before we preven predict
how much is the All Out Show a
590
00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:06.000
week later taken away from this card
in your mind? If anything, I
591
00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:09.320
didn't even know there was one,
Like I think y'all out show? I
592
00:43:09.400 --> 00:43:14.000
mean, if I'm putting a show
on it for a ninety thousand people and
593
00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:16.559
I might have a show right after
it, Like, how can I possibly
594
00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:24.440
make that an event worth watching?
Like unless you do something crazy, unless
595
00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:29.280
you have a Bash at the Beach
moment or something of that ilk where we're
596
00:43:29.320 --> 00:43:31.039
like, holy cow, I can't
believe that happened. Now I have to
597
00:43:31.039 --> 00:43:35.920
watch All Out? But what are
you gonna build? What are you gonna
598
00:43:36.199 --> 00:43:40.000
what storylines are you building for All
Out? This short returnaround time. It's
599
00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:45.039
just it's completely baffling to me the
way they're setting this up. And it's
600
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:49.360
like, now, next year when
you don't have all in and you're doing
601
00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:53.519
it all out? Are you also
damaging the brand name of all out by
602
00:43:53.559 --> 00:43:58.000
putting it so close to all in? It's it's a it's a weird dichotomy.
603
00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:00.280
I would have never done it.
Well, see how it plays out.
604
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:04.840
You know, two weeks from now
we'll be talking about the all out
605
00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:08.199
All in aspect to this entire thing
and how it plays towards the future of
606
00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:12.400
AW I wouldn't have played it this
way, but it's very well possible.
607
00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:15.000
Even with the way that the card
is looking. Then a week from now,
608
00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:16.360
Doctor Trey and I sit here and
go, this is a fantastic show,
609
00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:19.639
one of the best the year,
such a great atmosphere, a lot
610
00:44:19.639 --> 00:44:23.599
of fun to watch, and we
forget about the build. But heading into
611
00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:28.280
it, it's like, man,
you have this amazing opportunity in the build
612
00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:32.199
has been lackluster and last minute,
and that's what's disappointed. As a wrestling
613
00:44:32.199 --> 00:44:37.000
family, wants to see some good
long term storylines that bringing all together,
614
00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:42.239
So we'll see where it goes.
This Sunday All in London, England,
615
00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:45.599
Wembley Stadium, expecting over eighty two
thousand people to be in attendance. It's
616
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being build as the biggest event in
wrestling history, Doctor, and might I
617
00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:54.960
add Doctor Trey and I are recording
this during Dynamite, so it's very well
618
00:44:55.000 --> 00:45:00.519
possible that matches on this card could
be changed. Let's start with one that
619
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:05.760
could be changed. It's the pre
show match as Aussie Opened defend the ROH
620
00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:08.760
World Tag Team Championship against MJF and
Adam Cole. Aussie opened his due to
621
00:45:08.760 --> 00:45:12.119
be taken on the Hardy Boys.
As Doctor trying to record this, we
622
00:45:12.159 --> 00:45:14.800
have no idea who's won that match, so as possible, could be the
623
00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:16.599
Hardy Boys versus m Jeff and Adam
Cole. Wish to me would be more
624
00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:21.320
of a all in match than the
one with Assie Open, and I'm a
625
00:45:21.360 --> 00:45:23.800
big fan of Aussie Open. With
that said, I really like this idea
626
00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:29.320
of the main event battling for the
tag team Championship and the pre show.
627
00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:31.760
This is also a way to get
fans in their seats. You could tell
628
00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:36.559
great business by aw here that there
is concerned that fans will not be in
629
00:45:36.599 --> 00:45:39.159
their seats for the start of this
show. That's why they're putting MJF and
630
00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:42.440
Adam Cole on the pre show because
they want fans to check it out.
631
00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:44.840
With that said, I'm gonna take
m jeff and Adam Cole to become the
632
00:45:44.840 --> 00:45:47.000
new ROH World Tae Team Champions.
Doctor Try. By the way, it
633
00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:52.000
also gives Adam Cole at MJF five
hours to recover. He gives them time
634
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:55.800
to recover for the main match matches. I am going this is where I
635
00:45:55.840 --> 00:46:02.599
think we're going to differ a little
bit. I am going to take Aussie
636
00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:07.159
Open to retain their tag teams holes
by disqualifications. I think MJF and MCLE
637
00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:12.239
get the win by DQ, but
I can't see them putting the Ring of
638
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:15.039
Honor Tag Teams titles on those two
guys when they're fighting for the world title
639
00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:19.519
and then you have nothing on that
Ring of Honor brand for tag teams.
640
00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:23.000
So I just can't seem MJF and
MCLE being on a Ring of Honor YouTube
641
00:46:23.000 --> 00:46:28.440
show. So I will take Assie
Open to retain their tag titles by disqualification.
642
00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:31.440
Next match here is for the AW
World Tag Team Championship is FTR Defense
643
00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:36.000
against the Young Bucks. I'm going
to take the Young Bucks in this one,
644
00:46:36.039 --> 00:46:39.159
Doctor Trey. I think with Cash
Wheeler's recent arrests, and potential legal
645
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:44.000
troubles. They may look to get
the titles off of FTR rather than keep
646
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:45.360
them on them when this is going
on. So I'm gonna take the Bucks.
647
00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:50.360
I'm taking the Bucks for the cash
wheeler thing. And then also,
648
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:53.440
like, if you're going to get
to a point where we do the elite
649
00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:58.159
versus c mftrs, that what you
called them left, that's right, that's
650
00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:02.360
where they go by c MFTR,
CMFDR. Somebody's gotta played the bad guy.
651
00:47:02.840 --> 00:47:07.000
So if the Bucks win, FDR
gets mad. Now you can have
652
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:12.440
FDR, the FDR and CM punk
to play the heels against the elite.
653
00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:15.679
Get more buy in for that,
and it makes it more compelling. So
654
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:17.559
I will take the Bucks to win
the World Tag Team title as well.
655
00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:22.880
Next match, here's a car Sheeta
versus Tony Storm versus Sorea versus Doctor Burt
656
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:25.559
Baker dm D in a four way
match for the aw Women's World Championship across
657
00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:30.320
sheet of defending Doctor Trey. Who
do you like in this one? I
658
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:34.559
am taking Sirea to win because I
think if she has the belt, then
659
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:37.199
she can have the outcast kind of
play buffers. That way, she doesn't
660
00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:40.400
have to work as much. I
think this was their idea to transition the
661
00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:44.280
belt off Tony Storm and put it
on Sorea to get more eyes on the
662
00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:46.440
product. Plus, then you can
build to Britt Baker and Sorea again.
663
00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:52.239
So I will take Sirea winning the
world title. Women have women's title in
664
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:55.360
her homeland of England as well.
I love that call, Doctor Trey.
665
00:47:55.679 --> 00:47:59.239
I would love to go with Sorea, but I'm gonna go with doctor Burt
666
00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:00.840
Baker. Dm D. I think
they gotta put the championship back on her,
667
00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:04.880
But I love your pick for Surrey. You almost convinced me to make
668
00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:07.800
a switch, but I'm gonna stick
with my pick here with Doctor Burt Baker.
669
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:12.079
Next match is Darby Allen and Staying
taking on Swerve Strickland and R Fox
670
00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:15.280
of the Mobile Embassy and a tag
team coffin match. I'm so happy for
671
00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:17.440
swarving r Fox getting this opportunity.
Dat straight, Who do you like in
672
00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:22.519
this one? By the way,
why do the baby Faces go attack somebody
673
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:27.519
in their building because they were they
attacked Nick Wayne? Yeah, but you
674
00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:31.039
that's basically got home invasion and baby
Faces don't do well other than Steve Austin.
675
00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:35.599
I thought it was eye for an
Eye. I liked it. To
676
00:48:35.719 --> 00:48:37.880
me, it's was it's one of
It's just old school me. I'm taking
677
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:43.000
Stinging Darby Allen because Sting doesn't lose
in AW so I take Stinging Darby Allen.
678
00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:45.760
There are rumors that this could potentially
be his last match, staying Darby
679
00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:50.800
Allen or with Sting. Excuse me, I'm gonna take Singing Darby Allen and
680
00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:53.440
get the victory as well. By
the way, is that all letdown for
681
00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:57.840
you? If this is Sting's last
match, that it's And notice I think
682
00:48:57.880 --> 00:49:01.000
the survn aar fox. But if
this is things less match, would you
683
00:49:01.039 --> 00:49:06.880
want to go out and kind a
bigger, bigger match. Yeah, But
684
00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:10.000
I guess maybe the stage is what
they're thinking that this could be his last
685
00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:13.599
match on I mean, this is
just pure speculation, but I agree the
686
00:49:13.719 --> 00:49:17.000
match. No, I think Darby
Allen versus Sting would be a great way
687
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:20.760
for him to go out. But
I think they're just thinking at the stage
688
00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:24.639
of Wembley Stadium, eighty thousand is
a potential here. Okay, it's Corbyn,
689
00:49:24.760 --> 00:49:28.239
It's Barren Corbyn. Kurt angle to
me what it is? Yeah,
690
00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:30.559
No, I hear you. Next
match is the Golden Elite Coda Boushi,
691
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:34.920
Kenny, Omegan, Hangman and and
Paige checking on Cano Skate Takeshka, j
692
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:37.719
White and Juce Robinson, all those
two of Bullet Club Gold and a six
693
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:42.239
man tag team match. I'm going
to take the Golden Elite Coda, Kenny
694
00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:45.360
and Hangman. Yeah, I'm taking
the Golden lead as well. You don't
695
00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:46.599
have Cod to come in and with
d have Cod to lose, even though
696
00:49:47.079 --> 00:49:52.320
I do like Bullet Club Gold,
but just on this stage, and plus
697
00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:54.239
it can always build up to Omega
and to Keshka as well, So I'll
698
00:49:54.280 --> 00:49:59.119
take the Golden and Elite getting the
win. Next match here is the Stadium
699
00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:01.679
Stampede match. Just Eddie Kinkson Orange, Cassie, Chuck Taylor, Trent Breta,
700
00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:06.360
Penta El, Sarah Mieto, and
to be announced because Ray Phoenix is
701
00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:09.360
reportedly injured. They'll be taking on
John Moxley, Caudiocass and Only Wheeler.
702
00:50:09.440 --> 00:50:14.280
You to the Blackpool Combat Club and
three mystery partners. Again. They may
703
00:50:14.360 --> 00:50:19.760
have announced the rest of this match
while we're recording this, so we don't
704
00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:22.800
know. But Doctor Trey, who
do you like in this one? Somebody's
705
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:24.239
getting Mirro in this match. That's
all I can think of right now.
706
00:50:24.840 --> 00:50:29.599
Mirro's on one side again or the
other, because he doesn't really have anything
707
00:50:29.679 --> 00:50:34.360
on this on the show today.
So I'm taking Blackpool Combat Club because I
708
00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:37.320
just don't think you can have them
lose two best friends, and as much
709
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:40.599
as I love Chuck and Trent,
they're just not on the level of the
710
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:45.400
rest of Blackpool Combat Club. I
like him taking Blackpool Combat Club and the
711
00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:49.559
three Mystery Partners to get the victory
in Stadium Sampane. This is gonna be
712
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:52.480
a lot of fun. I love
that they're doing this match at Wembley.
713
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:55.440
Next match is a dream match of
sorts, depending on if you think it's
714
00:50:55.480 --> 00:50:58.559
a dream match. I think it
is. I don't know if Doctor Trey
715
00:50:58.599 --> 00:51:01.559
feels the same way, but we'll
lost taken on Chris Jericho. I'm gonna
716
00:51:01.559 --> 00:51:07.199
take will Osprey getting the victory.
Yeah, I mean it's a dress.
717
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:09.280
Sorry, I was thinking about who
I picking this match, but yeah,
718
00:51:09.480 --> 00:51:15.440
on paper, it's a dream matches
is like generational type stuff and two guys
719
00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:19.199
that have kind of came up very
similar the business being high flyers then putting
720
00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:23.360
on some size and getting a little
bit more brutes. Yeah, I really
721
00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:27.679
want to pick Jericho's I think he
needs a win, not that for legacy,
722
00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:30.840
is just for his standing in AW. But once again, it's will
723
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:32.760
Osprey in the United Kingdom that crowds
would go nuts for him. So I'll
724
00:51:32.800 --> 00:51:37.119
take will Osprey as well. Next
match, here's for the real World Championships.
725
00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:40.400
See him Punk defends against Samoa Joe. I'm gonna take see him Punk
726
00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:44.159
in this one, Doctor Trey,
because I feel like he challenges for the
727
00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:50.559
AW Championship a week later at All
Out in Chicago. Yeah, I'm same
728
00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:52.519
thing for me as much as I
love. By the way, have you
729
00:51:52.559 --> 00:51:54.800
watched sust the medal yet he take? No, I've heard it's very good.
730
00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:59.039
It's very good, even though Joe
doesn't talk, which is disappointed because
731
00:51:59.079 --> 00:52:01.280
his voice would be great in the
role. But it's it's it's really entertaining.
732
00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:06.400
I'm taking Cmpunk as well because I
don't know the last time Joe beat
733
00:52:06.599 --> 00:52:08.400
CM Punk was it was probably a
ring of honor then, right yep?
734
00:52:08.519 --> 00:52:14.960
Yeah yeah, Sampunk did not ever
defeat Samoa Joe until recently the Ownhart Tournament
735
00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:16.920
in a w sows. I think
it was Owen three in his career.
736
00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:21.280
Okay, so I'll take Sampunk as
a guy to get back to even so
737
00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:24.320
to massages ego a little bit,
and then finally the main event for the
738
00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:30.599
AW World Champion, Doctor Trey MJF
defends against Adam Cole. Uh. This
739
00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:31.679
one, This one, I don't
know about you. This one's a little
740
00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:35.119
bit hard for me because I've kind
of been going back and forth on it
741
00:52:35.239 --> 00:52:37.199
because I could see it going both
ways. I could see either one of
742
00:52:37.239 --> 00:52:44.239
the guys turning on the other guy. I'm gonna take MJF to retain because
743
00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:49.079
I don't want to say it's a
been a lackluster title run, but I
744
00:52:49.239 --> 00:52:53.159
think he needs some signature title wins
to really establish his legacy as champion,
745
00:52:54.280 --> 00:52:59.440
So I'll take MJF getting the win
at all Out. I don't think there's
746
00:52:59.599 --> 00:53:01.920
any wrong with you saying that it's
been a lackluster run, because I would
747
00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:06.480
agree with you. It's not where
I thought it would be so far,
748
00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:10.800
it's been below my expectations, slightly
below my expectations. With that said,
749
00:53:12.039 --> 00:53:16.639
I'm going to take MJF to retain
and take on CM Punk a week later
750
00:53:16.760 --> 00:53:21.239
at All Out so both of us
taking MJF dot I'm kind of surprising that
751
00:53:22.119 --> 00:53:24.719
not to mention, and once again, this is that near sightedness of AW,
752
00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:28.559
like, we're going to get if
that, if that comes through first,
753
00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:32.440
we're getting in JF and Punk within
a week. It's the World World
754
00:53:32.559 --> 00:53:37.239
Championship stuff. That's the It's like
it's predictable in that sense, which which
755
00:53:37.320 --> 00:53:40.920
one makes it, which match gets
lessened by the other one. That's the
756
00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:45.599
like, are we so like after
the show? Are we like, oh
757
00:53:45.639 --> 00:53:47.599
my god, MJFLE is great,
Oh yeah, we got to see him
758
00:53:47.599 --> 00:53:52.039
Punk match coming up? Or are
we like I can't believe they're doing this
759
00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:55.400
because that CM Punk MJF match based
on their history would be amazing. But
760
00:53:55.639 --> 00:53:59.880
we've had less than a less than
a week build up to it, so
761
00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:02.360
it's gonna be like they're kind of
shooting themselves in the foot for all out
762
00:54:02.920 --> 00:54:06.559
based on having all in so soon. Yeah, I would love to know
763
00:54:06.639 --> 00:54:08.760
behind the scenes, like how did
this? Why is all in and all
764
00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:12.639
out around the same time. I
don't know if there's a story out there
765
00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:15.559
right now. I felt like I
had read at some point that this was
766
00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:19.440
one of the only weekends that AW
could have Wembley Stadium, and I may
767
00:54:19.480 --> 00:54:23.719
be incorrect in that, but I
would have never done the biggest show in
768
00:54:23.760 --> 00:54:29.920
the history of your promotion then a
week later doing another show that you know.
769
00:54:30.079 --> 00:54:32.119
Doctor Trey and I debate all the
time, like is this the Kuda
770
00:54:32.159 --> 00:54:37.119
grah for aw or is it double
or nothing? I don't believe it's revolution.
771
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:39.320
I don't believe it's full gear.
I feel like it's either all out
772
00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:44.360
or double or nothing. Which one
is their WrestleMania. I don't know,
773
00:54:44.559 --> 00:54:49.159
it's it's a it's a scenario we
never have seen really play out all that
774
00:54:49.239 --> 00:54:51.880
much. Ww we did it once
in recent memory that I could think of.
775
00:54:51.960 --> 00:54:53.760
I think they did Summer Slam one
week and then a week later.
776
00:54:53.840 --> 00:54:58.159
They did Payback in twenty twenty,
but twenty twenty was really weird and fucked
777
00:54:58.239 --> 00:55:00.000
up, so maybe that's why they
I did it. Here we are three
778
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:04.920
years later, and they did not
have eighty thousand people in attendance for summers
779
00:55:04.920 --> 00:55:07.119
them. They had like ten,
and those were production workers and then people
780
00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:13.440
on a screen in Devinwi. So
I don't know. I'm Nonetheless, I'm
781
00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:15.440
excited, Dr Trey. I'm excited
to see this crowd. I'm excited to
782
00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:19.840
see the energy. I'm excited to
see the audience. I expect it to
783
00:55:19.920 --> 00:55:22.920
be a very fun and entertaining show. I hope a week later we're sitting
784
00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:29.360
here going man, all in exceeded
expectations and then some. Despite the poor
785
00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:31.960
built it's weird. I have to
kind of preference myself when I watched the
786
00:55:32.000 --> 00:55:37.880
show and knowing that, look,
if this crowd is anything like Cardiff,
787
00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:42.280
it like you and I are.
Theorisaid it was a fantastic show because the
788
00:55:42.360 --> 00:55:45.840
crowd energy will pump it up,
just like the show in Puerto Rico.
789
00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:52.199
Like on paper as solid show,
but then the crowd energy just brings it
790
00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:55.239
up even more. So I kind
of like, I always want to watch
791
00:55:55.360 --> 00:55:59.559
the show with no crowd volume,
Joe, so I can see all right
792
00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:01.199
on my or not, because I
know the crowd's gonna hype me up even
793
00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:06.199
more. So I'm really really looking
forward to that as well, Like it's
794
00:56:06.199 --> 00:56:12.880
gonna be a great environment. The
UK deserves this so much and I really
795
00:56:12.960 --> 00:56:17.760
just hope that it hits all of
their expectations because this is you know,
796
00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:22.199
all hands on deck, all eyes
on the product, and you're gonna have
797
00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:25.480
more fans checking this out for AW
than they've had on any other show,
798
00:56:25.599 --> 00:56:30.079
So you got to bring your A
game and then follow up with another A
799
00:56:30.239 --> 00:56:32.760
game because you have All Out a
week later. Yeah, and we will
800
00:56:32.840 --> 00:56:37.199
recap and review All In on next
week's edition in the podcast on August thirty,
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first episode seven h seven will recap
interview all In, and then we
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will also preview predicted WWE Payback and
AW all Out. So there's a lot
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going on heading into this Labor Day
holiday here in the United States. I
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expected to be a very fun and
historic weekend for all the wrestling. I'm
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excited for them. They deserve this. It's gonna be a lot of fun.
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I'm excited for the UK fans and
recap and review at All for you
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on next week's edition of the podcast. With that said, let's get a
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couple of plugs and sponsor out of
the way. You can download show every
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Thursday or Friday at Real Guy radio
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and subscribe to help climb the charts
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Twitter. I'm still gonna call it
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for dct tre Franklin at d Doctor
Trey and of course don't forking to follow
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a show on Twitter at SRTU Podcasts. With that being said, what's going
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on the wonderful world of Doctor Stray
Franklin this week? Well, like Jeff
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said, you can follow me on
X Twitter, Twitter, X Twitter X
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whatever you want to call it.
I don't know, uh, the elon
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must thing, I'll just do that. It's not tesla. But you can
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follow me there at duntor tree.
You can find me on Facebook and Instagram
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actually all meta, so I can
just throw meta. You follow me on
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Meta at the Doctor or just search
out Doctor Trey Franklin. You can find
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me on Meta. When you're on
Meta, check out Rocket City Championship Wrestlings,
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parton Championship Wrestling through the better shows
going in the Southeast today, but
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more importantly with the passing and Terry
Funk, it's just reminder go out and
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support your locally independent wrestling shows.
I mean ECW literally Head Sandman as a
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surfer when Terry Funk showed up.
You know, all these small independence shows.
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If a legend like Terry Funk can
make the rounds or you know any
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of those other big stars that we
set from our past that we've seen making
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the rounds in the INDEPENDCA That means
you can get off the couch. Football
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teams done the surfer a couple of
more weeks, go out on a Saturday
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night, check out your look with
the tennant Wrestling show, because you might
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find him JF. You might find
the next Adam Call. You might find
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the next Darby Alan, the next
Nick Wayne at your locally dependent shows and
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be like, yeah, I remember
them when and be cool to all of
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your friends that you tell our show
about. So there you go. Support
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all the great things that support SRTU. Spread the word about the Sorelto show.
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And I just saw it drop on
my phone. Here my iTunes subscription.
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The Terry Funk episode My Interview with
Terry Funk thirteen years ago is now
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available for download up on the SRTU
iTunes feed, so go out there to
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check it out. It's also up
on real Guy Rata dot com. As
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we pay tribute to Terry Funk on
his passing today, So again, rest
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in peace to Terry Funk. Enjoy
aw all in this Sunday. It's during
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the day here in the United States, which is gonna be great, so
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that you could actually sleep normal during
AW pay per view, unless because from
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noontime till nine pm East, which
is possible. I want to put it
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past Tony con sometimes. Nonetheless,
a historic weekend is upon us, a
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historic couple of weeks here, a
lot of pay per views taking place,
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all in, payback, all out, and we will cover it here each
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and every week on SRTU. So
until next week, enjoy the weekend,
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enjoy AW all in for Duct tre
Franklin. I'm Jeff Pack. This is
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this a real Bush show. Didn't
didn't, didn't then didn't
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It's stupid. Welcome everybody, Welcome
to this week's edition is a real good
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show. Episodember seven hundred and six
for August twenty four, two thousand,
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run three. This your a w
all in preview and Predictions edition of ass
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All Team You. I am one
after show. I am Jeff Peck joined
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every single week on my coast,
the one only Dctor Trey Franklin, Doctor
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Trey, Are you all in?
My friend? Like? What what am
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I? All in? And I'm
not in. I'm not in a rush,
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I'm not in a hurry, I'm
not in any kind of jelly or
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jam and I'm and I'm not in
England, So I guess I'm kind of
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in kind of in. That could
be the next the follow up to all
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in or all out, just so
you do all in all out and then
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another week later you do kind of
in. How about that? Well,
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I think I think you do all
in all out. Then you do shake
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it all about and then the follow
up that is aw hokey poke Okay,
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yeah, just four back to back
to back pay per views like that?
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Actually a hokey pokey sounds like maybe
an impact pay per view. Okay,
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yeah, they do a little bit
more like hardcore wrestling for hokey pokey,
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I mean, but then again,
w to do Great Balls of Fire so
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you might see WW hokey pokey.
All right, we have to reset the
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clock now it has been now the
record was twenty eight days since we last
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reference Great Balls of Fire. Now
we're back down to zero. So for
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a throwaway podcast, and like July
or excuse pay per view in July twenty
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eighteen, we do reference that show
quite often. Do you remember what the
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main event was for that show?
Was it Joe and Brock, Joe and
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Braun? I believe Braun. Okay, yeah, let me make sure I
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got that right. I know it
involved large men flapping meat at Great Balls
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of Fire? Was that how he
teased it? Braun? I don't know,
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but I just took the big E
reference and ran with it right there
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because it made a lot of sense
and the pun was intentional. July twenty
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seventeen. And I believe you're right. It was Brock and Samoa. Joe
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was the headline. I was Ron
and Braun. It was Braun versus Roman
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in an ambulance match that Braun Stroman
actually defeated Roman in and then I think
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we came back and they did Joe
Braun and Brock. They did some kind
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of three way or four way of
those guys too, either right before that
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paper view, were right after that
paper view. Next paper view was battle
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Ground. Let's see here. Battle
Ground was headlined by Gender Mahal defeating Randy
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Orton in a Punjabi prison match.
That was the next show. July two
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was a SmackDown branded show. Yeah, okay, that's right, brace Split
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yeah yeah yeah yeah. So then
wait, so then I'm looking at next
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show would have been Summer Slammer Slam. You may be right on that one.
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Yep, brocka go ahead. That
curs w. We had a match
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where it's like three large men fighting
each other, which was like a basic
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man you know dream Brock versus Braun
versus Roman versus Samoa Joe at Summer Slam
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twenty seventeen. All right, I
was in the ballpark. I forgot Romans
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considered a big man compared to Joe, Braun and Brock. Good memory,
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Good memory there, Doctor Trey so
Brock and Samoa Joe was one of headlined
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that Great Balls of Fire paper viewer
reset. I think Great Balls of fire
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referenced clock here on SRTU have a
Little Fun Too to kick off the show.
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But unfortunately, a couple of hours
ago, we did receive news that
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w WE Hall of Famer Terry Funk
had passed away. I mean, one
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of the most influential wrestlers I feel
like of all time, doctor Trey.
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I mean, he was a regular
professional wrestler that dabbled into brawling, that
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dabbled into hardcore wrestling, revitalized his
career at several points. Really is one
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of the reasons why ECW got so
big in the late nineties was the inclusion
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of Terry Funk. Truly, truly, truly a one of a kind talent.
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I mean, very sad news tonight
do Tray Too to kick off the
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show here, as we learned that
Terry Funk had passed away. Sadly,
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Yeah, I heard about it on
my drive in from Tennessee today to get
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back home, and it wasn't surprising. The last pictures we saw Terry,
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he wasn't in great shape. And
you know, like I'm for being a
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wrestling fan for forty years, I
didn't get into Terry Funk, and really
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the appreciation of Terry Funk until much
later in his career. Like my first
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memory of Terry Funk is the back
to back matches he had with Rick Flair
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at WCW when they brought him in
as a basically a play by play guy,
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and then he attacked Flair after the
Steamboat trilogy. Pile drove up to
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the table and I was like,
ooh, I hate that guy. And
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then my dad is the one who
taught, you know, told me more
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about Terry Funk. We saw him
in Roadhouse and then ECW launch and I
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learned more about him. And then
you know, you're just like, oh
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my god, Like this guy's influenced
with me people, and you know,
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kind of a technical wrestler and then
a brawler. And then you know,
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we saw this stuff in ECW and
this stuff, you know, started catching
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the videos of stuff with him and
Captain's Jack and Japan, and then you're
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like wow, and then you know
the attitude are he reinventing himself again and
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putting on panty hose and then all
the way through now like the man is
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legitimately that there will never be another
guy like Terry Funk. I mean,
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the man, the man was Middle
Asian crazy, for fifty years, So
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I mean, I mean, I
don't know about you. The closest thing
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we have to a Terry Funk right
now is maybe a John Moxley. But
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you know, his influence throughout wrestling, whether it was the Texas guys or
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you know, the Fucking Nojo or
the hardcore wrestlers, their deathmatch wrestlers,
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or the gimmick wrestlers. Like,
his influence spans so many styles of wrestling
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that it's really really incredible to see
how much I don't say paved the way
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for guys, but like really just
opened doors and open up eyes to different
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styles of wrestling. So just one
of the most well rounded wrestlers in the
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history of our business. So from
a personal standpoint, I had the absolute
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pleasure and honor to interview Terry Funk
about thirteen years ago. When I heard
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the news, I immediately thought of
that interview and everything that led up to
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it. So at that period of
time, I was on this podcast called
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The Wheelhouse with Mike Bower and Chris
Cause and we've made available this podcast as
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well, which I'll get to.
And we had a fantastic relationship with Ring
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of Honor Wrestling with Kerry Silkin when
he owned the company. I was going
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to like every New York City show
in two thousand and nine, twenty ten,
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and then into two thousand and eleven
before they sold to Sinclair Broadcast Group.
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So for every one of their shows
in New York, they would always
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be so kind to give us some
sort of wrestler to interview, and I
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would interview Claude Doocasticnolie, at one
point interviewed Roderick Strong. Had this opportunity
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time and time again, and then
we were pitched the opportunity to interview Terry
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Funk, who for Glory by Honor
I believe it was nine in two thousand
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ten, he was acting as the
special enforcer outside the ring for the Tyler
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Black rogeris Wrong match for the ROH
World Championship. Tyler Black now known as
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Seth Rons. It was his last
match of ring Vroon and Wrestling before going
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to WW and Terry Funk was involved. So we had the opportunity to interview
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Terry Funk to promote the show and
leading into it, like Roh gave me
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his home phone number and him and
I played phone tag and it was on
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my old phone. I wish I
still had it, but Terry Funk like
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leaves me this voicemail and it was
like him asking his wife, like,
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you know, do I leave a
message. It was like listening to this
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elderly man who wasn't up on technology
but was also a wrestling legend, like
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leave this very funny, like grandpa
esque voicemail on my phone. And it
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was so cool. And then we
led into interviewing him days later. That
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day later, and it was one
of the first real big interviews we ever
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had on our podcast, and it
was Terry Funk, and I think we
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talked to him for like thirty to
forty five minutes. And to make a
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long story short, we we we
actually interviewed him on August twenty fourth,
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twenty ten, nearly thirteen years the
day where he passes away ago, which
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is insane that it was a raid
around this time as well, and the
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day that this podcast drops is on
August twenty four, twenty twenty three,
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thirteen years later. That we've made
this podcast available. Right now, it's
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up on realgutrader dot com. By
the time that this podcast drops, it
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should be up on our subscription feeds, up on iTunes and everywhere else,
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and I encourage everybody to listen to
it. Obviously it's a bit dated.
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You'll hear us be talking about stuff
that was going on woe at the time,
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but it was so cool to talk
to Terry Funk about his career.
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It's it's a broadcasting highlight doc tray, and it was like the first real
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instance that I got to interview somebody
that like I knew and it wasn't some
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sort of blogger or anything like that
that we were doing at the time.
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It was Terry freaking Funk, who
was a deb WE Hall of Famer,
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a wrestling legend, and it was
such an honor to speak with him,
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and I had that honor and I'll
remember it forever and I'm looking forward to
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listening back to that podcast. I
immediately went back and I found an article
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that quoted our show, so that
I went back into my old archives,
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got the podcast center over to Bauer. Bauer put it up on the website
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and has made it available for download, So it's gonna be a lot of
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fun to go back and listen to
that. And again, I just it
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was an honor, it was an
honored privilege to talk to him and I'm
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very sad and about the news today. But the career in the life of
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Terry Funk was was one of a
one in a million doctor Trey. He
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was a one in a million person. Yeah, I mean it's amazing me
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because you know, we talked about, you know, we spent a lot
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of time over the past few years
talking about the bloodline, the usos,
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you know, other family or blood
you know relations, and a lot of
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those guys are very very similar in
their styles. And then you look at
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Terry Funk and Dory Funk Junior as
professional wrestlers in the early days, they
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were very similar. But you know, the path that Terry went down was
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so different from his older brother,
I mean just two almost completely polar opposite
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personalities and everything else. And you
know, by all accounts, like I've
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had an outpouring of people from you
know, the independent scene here in Tennessee
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talking about like appearances Terry made and
you know what a great guy was.
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Actually one of my one of my
friends that was in wrestling before I got
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in in Arkansas was telling the story
about how he had worked a show and
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then had to drive straight from the
show to the airport to pick Terry Funk
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up and he was still basically in
his wrestling gear and you know, throwing
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a pair of shorts and a T
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like you know, T shirts from
his merchable. It gets to the
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airport, he's all stressed out because
it's Terry freaking Funk. He gets there
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for realizes Funk's plane got in five
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that Terry Funk's been waiting on this
young independent wrestler. And he walks,
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you know, he walks in,
looks around, he sees Terry Funk,
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and he goes he didn't have to
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looked at him. That's a wrestler. He just walks right up to him,
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introduced himself. They got in the
car, and then a two hour
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drive from the Little Rock Airport or
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He's like the highlight was literally him
just talking to Terry Funk the entire
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time. And he was supposed to
be in a tag match with him and
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Terry against Brian Christopher and Rakishi and
Rikishi no showed or not no, but
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just couldn't make it, and they
moved Terry Funk to be in the special
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guest referee. He's like, that's
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ever forget, just because of how
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whatever the promo her ass And that's
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young wrestler. He took away from
it was, Hey, you're never too
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big for this sport. And I
think he's always he always retained that it
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was appreciative to everybody came in contact, whether they were you know, top
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of the car main event and one
of the major promotions, or you know,
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a green guy in his second year
of wrestling. He's just you know,
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like we've talked about years ago with
Tracy's mothers, he's just one of
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those guys that just seems universally loved
and revered across the board about you know,
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with everybody who came in contact with
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cool story. He was such a
nice guy and just my very small interactions
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with him, and he didn't need
to be I mean, he's he's a
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living legend. And it was like, listened back to the podcast that we
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made available. It's like talking to
an old friend that's talking about his career.
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Talking to him on the phone when
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he could not have been more nice, you know, and it was just
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it was just a really cool experience
and it's one that I'll never forget.
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I mean, it was legit,
like the It was the first big name
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I ever interviewed in my entire broadcasting
career. And I'm so happy I found
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the podcast to make available and pay
tribute to Terry Funk, who sadly passed
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away today. It's a it's a
sad day, but we remember an honor
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the life and career of one Terry
Funk, because I mean, things would
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not be where they were today if
it wasn't for Terry Funk, his battles
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with Rick Flair, the way that
he helped carry ec W forward, just
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being always a wrestler's wrestler. He's
one of a kind and we'll be missed
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and we send our condolences to all
the family, friends, and of course
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fans of Terry Funk and his passing
today. Rest in peace, Terry Funk.
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There's no easy way to transition out
of paying tribute to a legend other
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than talking about a legend whose potential
WWW career ended. This past Friday on
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SmackDown, Edge in a match with
Shaymiss to celebrate twenty five years in the
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WWW in his hometown of Toronto,
Ontario, Canada. His contract is expiring
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soon. We don't know if he's
gonna stick with w he says he doesn't
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know. We don't know if he's
going to completely retire, if he's going
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to go somewhere else, to a
or like an AW. Well, we
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might have gotten some lightshd on the
story today as PW Torch is reporting the
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following and this comes straight from their
article stating Edge wrestled his last match on
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his current w WE contract on Friday. His contract expires, according to Edge
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on the Fan Morning Show at the
end of September. It's not known if
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he has any non compete period afterward, but there's a lot of buzz that
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he is a W bound. PW
Torch has learned that Adam Copeland aka Edge,
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presented to w W what would take
to retain his services, but WWW
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declined to meet his requests. This
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probably headed at AW and new at
the time what AW could offer him,
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based perhaps on conversations with other wrestlers
of a star power about AWPA. Tony
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Khn is a big fan of Edge, it certainly would value adding him to
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the roster, either as a wrestler
or in some other role. Also,
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Christian Cage is a longtime friend of
Copeland and is prominently featured on AW television,
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so linking it together in some way
on TV would be natural. Edge
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received the big celebration of his w
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within WWE management doesn't resent the possibility
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PW Torch had reported today Wednesday,
August twenty three, as we record on
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Wednesday night while AW Dynamite is airing. So lots of speculation here Doctor Trey
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that Adam Copeland Edge could be AW
bound prior to him returning in twenty twenty.
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I believe in late two and nineteen
he was approached by Tony conn and
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AW. He never just come out
fully and said that, but he basically
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alludes to. I believe there was
like a W twenty four on Edges return,
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and that's what led to him going
to he was made an offer and
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he went to w w WE and
said, well, you know, I
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owe it to them. Let me
see if if they'll match it and bring
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me back as a professional wrestler.
W WE didn't match it, brought him
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back, and then obviously the rest
is history because he's been with the companies
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since two thy twenty, returning out
to the Royal Rumble in January twenty and
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twenty, and here he is now
potentially on his way out of WWE,
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possibly had an AW Doctor Trey,
how do you how do you take all
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in all this news here? Do
you think we last we watched Edges last
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match in w WE? Uh,
I'm gonna say yes. And that's that's
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what he cut with the cava that
the wrestlers are wrestlers, and and you
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know, guys like Edge and Christian
and you other guys have been rather as
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a long time ago how to use
leverage when an issue. But you know,
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when you when you look at the
AW schedule and you look at basically
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guaranteed pay and you look at you
know, not only is one of his
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best friends there, but he also
has history with Don Callis as well.
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You know it does make a lot
of sense for him to you know,
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make a move and go over there. And you know, if he presented
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an offer WB and they declined to
meet those demands, I think they kind
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of know that that, you know, the possibilities there. So uh,
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right now, I'm gonna say,
yeah, that was probably his last match
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in WWE, because if he does
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by the time that contract would be
up that he would. I just don't
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see Adam Copeland being that, you
know, I don't I don't see him
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being staying and wrestling at sixty.
So you know, for a guy in
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his early fifties, that this might
be a chance for him to go out
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there help some younger guys and you
know, potentially get another edge Christian argue
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boy matchup, edge Christian young buck
matchup, things like that. I that
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seems like really fun, you know, matches for you know, Adam Coplan
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to get involved with and really wind
his career down doing some fun stuff like
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that with guys he's probably never wouldn't
have the chance to work with. If
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he stays in WWE. Where would
you prefer to see Himenda Square? Would
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you prefer to see Himenda Square in
ww or in AW. I mean I
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prefer see WWE because I just don't
know what the name Adam you know,
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you know, coming from Toronto,
Kata Adam Copeland has the same ring to
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it as Edge, you know.
But I mean obviously most of these guys,
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like the lifers, like Edge has
basically been a lifer, like he
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really after he first on the senor
ww he's never been anywhere else, And
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so those guys when they go to
other promotions, it just feels odd.
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Like I still can't wrap my head
around Bret Hart wc W. Like it
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doesn't you go back and watch those
old videos. It doesn't look right.
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Can you wrap your head around staying
to would be? Wait? No,
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Like it just doesn't look right,
you know, it's weird, like and
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it may be the way that I'm
but use the phrase it's the light I've
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always seen them in, but it
is the production lighting and like how they
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look like it just looks off,
you know. So yeah, I mean
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I almost forget this thing. I
mean we've talked about the show, but
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I almost forget this thing was in
WWB because it was kind of like that
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year long cup of coffee. So
to speak, it's kind of the same
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thing with you know, like I
said Brett Hart WCW, it took me
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a long time to get you seeing
Hulk Hogan in WCW when he jumps over
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there, or Rick Flair when he
first came to w W E. You
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know, like Macho Man in w
W two was weird. It kind of
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took them to actually change their entire
look. Like when Hogan went to Hollywood
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Macho Man star doing the black and
white stuff. I'm like, all right,
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that seems like a different character.
I can kind of see that separately
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from the red and yellows. But
then even when Hogan came to w E
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as nWo Hollywood, I'm like,
that doesn't look right. It's just it
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always seems kind of living off for
a while. So you know, it's
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like, you know, seeing your
favorite baseball player or NFL player. It's
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like Jet, You're gonna go through
this year, Aaron Rodgers as a jet,
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Yeah, you know, Brett Farve
as a jet. You know,
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me seeing Joe Montana as a chief
or Jerry Rice as a raider like it,
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or Trey Lance is the third string
quarterback. No that I'm okay with,
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But it's just you see these things. You're like that it just doesn't
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make sense. And it's Smith as
a cardinal, Like you're just like,
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it's almost it's almost don't want to
say it's sad, but it is kind
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of like a little bit of a
disappointment at time when you Bronco he got
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a Super Bowl though, so like
he did Tom Brady as a Buck.
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Yeah, but you know, it's
just it's just things you see. You're
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like, that's odd, especially when
you first see now when you got to
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Brady year three as a Buck,
you're like, all right, yeah,
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I'm kind of used to it now. But wrestling is a different a different
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animal a lot of ways. Like
you see you guys, like I mean,
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seeing Moxley in AW the first time, you're like, whoa, that's
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kind of odd. Now that he's
been there for three years, say with
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Chris Jericho, the first time you
see, you're like, that's kind of
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weird looking, and then now you're
like, all right, it makes sense.
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Cody, when he came back to
WWE with the AW gimmick, it's
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like, it's cool, but it
takes a little while for your brain to
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process it and make it normal.
I guess yeah. It's it's We're so
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used to it in wrestling, but
I just feel like there are times where,
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especially towards the later end of the
career, it's funny you bring up
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Jericho, like Jericho in AW it's
it's been forty years now and he's a
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main staying AW a former AW World
Champion. But there is a huge part
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of me, as a Chris Jericho
fan that wants to see one last match
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in WWW, like that's where I
believe his career should end. And I
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don't think that will ever happen now. I don't forever foresee Chris Jericho leaving
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AW and going to w W because
the allure of joining a company that is
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a little bit more lax than the
grind of WWE is what's a very which
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is very appealing to wrestlers, and
that, to me, is is why
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potentially Edge is making that jump.
And I think edgees is making that jump
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because there's more or potentially making that
jump because there's more opportunities for him that
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he would like to accomplish to close
out his career. I mean, you're
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you're talking about tagging with Christian again. I didn't I don't think Christian is
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going to come to Towe anytime,
seeing the Hardys are both in AW.
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If they want to have a Edging
Christian Hardy's match, that's going to have
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to happen in AW now, Edging
Christian versus FTR, Edging Christian versus the
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Young Bucks, Edge Wrestling in New
Japan, Edge Wrestling, MJF Adam Cole,
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whoever see him punk again, will
Losspray, whoever Kenny Omega like?
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There just seems to be more opportunities
in AW for a professional wrestler than there
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is in WWE. Like w E
is the global corporate conglomerate that it has
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WrestleMania, SummerSlam, the stadium shows. But if you're a wrestler who's accomplished
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all that and your itches to wrestle
some of your friends and accomplish some dream
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scenarios like look at the path that
Brian Danielson took by leaving WWE, AW
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is more appealing. So it's a
tough pill to swallow because to me,
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again, Edge should finish his career
in w WA. There should not be
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a period of time where Edge had
left w to go wrestle in AW.
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In my opinion, as a fan, it just seems perfect that he is
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with the WE family and that's where
he finished his career. Some people are
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w WE guys, some people are
AW guys, And I just feel like
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at this part important his career,
I don't I don't want to see him
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go to a W Obviously we'll get
used to it, but it's a it's
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a tough pill to swallow as an
EDGE fan, because, you know,
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do we want to run where he's
recognized as Adam Copeland? Does he work
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out something with w W where he
could use the name Edge? Is he
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the Edge? Is he like something
stupid like Edge Copeland? You know I
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would what's that? Adah Adam Edge? Like? I don't know. I
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got the feeling that his career was
ending this past Friday on SmackDown, not
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potentially continuing in AW. But this
report is seems pretty like a fore gone
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conclusion to me that in two three
months from now we have Edge in AW.
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There's a lot of dream match scenarios
that we'll see play out. It's
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just a matter of do we want
to see it play out at this point
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in his career, Like, this
is not an Adam Cole jumping from w
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e too. You know a w
this is a guy who only has a
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couple more years left under his belt. And where do we want to see
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that final match take place? Is
my thing? And I think for a
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guy like Edge, it should happen
in w W. A yeah, I
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agree with that then, And then
I thought as you were talking, I
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thought about the concept and a couple
of things though. One is if if
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he does go to WWE, does
that mean that when Beth's contracts up,
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she might make appearances in a AW
and then we might get Beth and Brett
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Baker or Beth and Edge against Adam
Colin Brett Baker, Like there's there are
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some dream matches for Beth Phoenix in
AW as well if she decided to go
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that path of good thing. And
this is a topic for our show maybe
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on a on a week or we're
a little bit slower. We don't have
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like a five hour pay per view
coming up, but a couple of those
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coming up. Now. Yeah,
when when you talk about guys making that
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jump, these guys and they're older, stay just making that jump to AW.
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And we've had this conversation on the
show about has AW ever built you
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know, has a TOW built up. Any homegrown stars outside of baby MJF
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that are over with the crowd,
maybe a yeah, But is it you
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know, for the law of the
I mean, those were guys that were
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like kind of on that pillar thing
when they moved over. But you look
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at, you know, some of
the other guys that are maybe a little
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bit lower, you know, a
private party, are they really over to
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the other guys that they've brought in. But those guys who are over,
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they can go anywhere they want to
and they're gonna get a crowded reaction.
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So the allure of AW when you're
already over and don't have to work as
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hard, is really compelling. But
if you're a younger guy and you're still
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trying to establish yourself, maybe going
to NXC is the right route because they
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can kind of teach you how to
get over, maybe better than what aw's
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done. I look at a guy
like Brian Pillman Jr. Who's making that
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jump over to WW here the next
month or so, we'll see him in
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NXC. But some of those guys
that are younger and got that contract,
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having established themselves, and if you're
not getting over on AW, are you
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average you're gonna be able to get
over anywhere else. Interesting point. Yeah,
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so we'll see here Edge possibly wrestling
his last WE match in his career
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and could very well be on his
way to All Elite Wrestling. Speaking of
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AW doctor Trey, we will pre
if you predict aw all In here in
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momententarily, but let's talk about it
before we get into the show itself.
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How important is this AW all In
show for the future of the promotion and
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this Sunday over eighty thousand people Wembley
Stadium, London, England, they revived
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the all In brand for All Elite
Wrestling. Will be the first time that
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AWS ran an all in show and
they're doing it. They're promoting it as
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the biggest wrestling crowd in history.
I know they are approaching the WRESTLEMANE thirty
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two record, which was over I
believe eighty two eighty three thousand. So
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it's very well possible little week from
now that this show has surpassed that and
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will be recognized from an attendance standpoint. Sorry wrestlemany three that it was the
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biggest wrestling show attended in history,
which is kind of a surprise because up
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until the last couple of months,
Aw's creative has not been that great,
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so it is the allud just to
create history and be there for the first
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debut show over in London, England. They've been good as of late,
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but sometimes when you look at the
card, people are like, I don't
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know about this doing back to back
shows as well. There's been a lot
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of back and forth about that.
But nonetheless, taking a step back from
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all that again, I asked the
question, how important is all in this
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Sunday for the future of the promotion? By the way, I think it
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was named another pay per view for
them. They could do all in,
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all out and then all that there
you go. Okay, a little nod
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to the Nickelodeon show, Yes exactly, But I think those shows really really
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important to them. And I don't
want to say it's like a turning point
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or a fork in the runners like
that, But when you're gonna have this
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many eyes on your product and you're
going out there, you're saying, hey,
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this is gonna be the largest wrestling
crowd in the history of wrestling,
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You're gonna get some mainstream attention from
that as well, and so from that
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alone, you want to make sure
you're on point. I mean, if
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we have you know, production gaps
or pyro gaps or things like that,
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it's going to be even more magnified
on this stage where you know, you're
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casual. Like the one thing we
talked about, you have to get the
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eyes of the casual wrestling fans on
your product in order to grow. You
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can't just stay tied into the diehards. Here's your chance to grab some those
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casual fans because they're gonna hear about
on ESPN, they're gonna hear about on
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CBS Sports, they're gonna hear about
different outlets that about how big this show
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is and everything else. If you
have a pyro incident like you have with
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you know, the barbed wire match, or you know any of these other
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like weird things that have happened,
and we just go, oh, like
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we just kind of grow because grown, because it's a growing pain. On
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this stage, it's gonna get magnified
even bigger. So it's an opportunity for
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them to grab some more casual fans
and bring to their product. But at
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the same time, you just don't
want those huge mistakes that make you look
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like a minor league team playing a
major League stadium, so you's got to
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be mindful of that as well.
Looking at the overall card right now,
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touch train and I know you don't
have at top of mind right now.
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We'll run through it here momentarily.
But there is a lot of social media
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chatter that the build for this show
has been lackluster. I mean, AW
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is right and rightfully so ramping this
up in a huge way as a massive
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turning point for the promotion, And
there is a lot writing on this Sunday
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show, and rightfully so, like
I'm very happy for AW to accomplish what
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they have and all wrestling fans should
be voting for rooting for that as well.
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The tribalism of being like that I
hope they fail and all that shit,
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it's just ridiculous, because this is
good for wrestling. That a promotion
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not named WWE is able to get
over eighty thousand people in a stadium in
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a country that they have never been
to before. This is a huge accomplishment
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and the success of the show is
tenfold important for the future of the AW
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promotion because this could be the end
of the first chapter of a w and
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taking it to the next chapter and
helping it get closer and closer to a
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you know, a one B or
one A. However, you want to
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look at it as an equal to
a WE in the eyes of everybody around
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the world, rather than a quote
secondary promotion. Nonetheless, the card has
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been chastised in a way. What
do you think of the build? What
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did you think of the build?
What do you think of the formation of
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it? Are you getting what you
want to see this Sunday during this historic
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show. I mean I'm getting some
of what I want. I mean,
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MJF Adam Cole on papers a match, I would want to see the build
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for this match in this setting I
think is different. I mean, usually,
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if I'm heading into a show where
I know we're going to put sixty
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seventy thousand people in the stadium,
whether it's a Wrestlingmania, Summer Slam,
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something like that, you know something
this magnitude, I want that main event
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to feel like it's going to be
a fight. I want that. I
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want those casual fans. I want
those people that, for lack of a
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better term, think it's still real
to them. I want them to buy
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into the animosity and this is kind
of like that they've done the whole friendship
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angle leading into this match, and
I'm like, okay, so we're playing
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the competitive friend angle instead of the
animals angle. So that makes me a
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look at Leary, you look at
the Stadium Stampede match, like those are
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fun matches and enjoyable, but you
know, would I rather see you know,
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Omega and Orho. I rather see
you know, a singles match or
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a tag match with animosity and anger
and victual build to it. So to
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me, something like this, some
of these matches had a one week build
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or a two week build, and
they've never really gone face to face with
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stuff like it's not it feels like, for lack of a better term,
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like when a kid tries on his
daddy's shoes. It's huge and it's fun,
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but it's not the same as when
dad puts his shoes on and goes
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to work, and it almost feels
like it's the indie show trying to be
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WWE in the presentation, but the
build is not on the level of what
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we get to for a SummerSlam or
Amania or a Rumble for that matter.
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So that's where I think the difference
is. I think that's where the backlash
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has come from. Folks on the
build up to this, to this show.
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Yeah, and I think maybe this
is a reflection of a promotion that
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is not used to this opportunity,
doctor Try. I mean, it's that
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fair to say that, Like they're
there. They don't have the record of
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being able to build towards massive stadium
shows like this like WWE has with Wrestlemanian
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SummerSlam, and you're kind of seeing
that newer promotion, you know, less
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than five years. I think that's
a fantastic points something I have not thought
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about until you said it as the
reason why the build for a show like
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this has not been up to snub
to the level of promotion that AW is
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giving it. Yeah. I mean
and once again, like you and I
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after this show, like when you
look at the AW calendar, what is
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their big build to show every year? Yeah? Is it all out?
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Is it's you know, one of
the other one, Like is it?
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What's what are you building towards?
I mean you look at WWB, they
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were always building towards SummerSlam. Stark
I mean w W E or WCW NWA
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for years. There's always buildings.
A stark impact is bound for Glory Ring
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of honor final Battle, you know, or you know, like we always
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had penultimate shows that you were building
towards. I don't think AW does that,
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and I'll one hand it is I
don't want to say lack of experience,
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but it is almost like a cocky
attitude, like, Hey, we're
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gonna keep doing what we're always doing
because it's been working for us. But
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this is a different setting than what
you're typically in and you've had I mean,
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how long ago was the Women we
same show now? It's like four
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months ago? Five months? Yeah, April? Yeah, So why have
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you not been building now since April
to get to this? Like all storylines
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lead to this show knowing you're gonna
have more eyes on the product than you
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typically do. So it's almost either
inexperience or bravado that they really haven't changed
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their modus operati leading into it.
And dear God, I just used a
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lot of big words that so I
used ten ultimate most operatic, Jesus Christ,
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what the hell's wrong with me today? And Doctor Trey's doing Mortal.
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I feel like they went into this
show building didn't like they do any other
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normal pay per view, and I
think that is where they were wrong.
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In that sense. I have loved
the MJF Adam Cold storyline, Like I
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think it has been a lot of
fun and enjoy to watch, and it's
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gone in a direction I did not
think it was going to go and making
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MJF a baby face, and I
think to this point that he is barring
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a turn going to be a baby
face moving forward. So that was really
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cool. But you think about that, I mean, that's the main event
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match, and I'm very happy and
proud for those two guys, But you
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asked yourself, It's like, was
that build and this match the one that
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should be headlining all In? And
I don't know the direction of this build
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for all In. Maybe this shouldn't
have been used for this type of show,
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Maybe it should have been something bigger. I still say, and maybe
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this is what's the hang up for
me, the fact that we're not getting
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CM Punk and FTR versus Kenny Omegan
the Young Bucks in a main event at
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all In. It's just very telling
about how bad the backstage Jerry is in
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aw right now. Like the fact
that's not happening is like atrocious. I
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mean that was the moneymaker. You
guys could not put your your differences are
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that bad that you could not headline
this show, of all shows where people
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want to see those two groups feud
because of the real life beef between them,
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especially see them Punk in the elite. They couldn't come to do it
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is like mind boggling to me.
Maybe that's where it's a personal hang up
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for me. But I mean,
as I look at this card and we'll
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preven predict it here, it just
doesn't I don't think it does it for
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me? Doctor Try. I gotta
be honest. I wish there was some
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better build for a lot of these
matches. Yeah, not to mention,
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you could have done a WrestleMania rematch
on this show that actually had a little
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bit of backstage anamossa. You could
have done Jericho and Punk yep. I
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was just thinking that. And we
know after brawl Out that there was some
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contention between Jericho and Punk and they've
said that they've kind of hashed that out.
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But you could have done that.
You know, you look at the
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stuff with what's his name talk,
I can't pronounce his name, Takashita,
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Canosia, Takeshka, t Keshka,
are we doing it? Takeshka and Omega
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at all at the show we are
where they're doing this sex man tag team
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match, but once again, it's
not a singles match, and that was
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one of the most brutal beat downs
we saw a few months back, and
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they still haven't done a singles one
on one match to play off that.
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But we're getting in this six man
It's like, guys, some of this
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stuff is basic wrestling, Like like
you said, I love the MJF Adam
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Cole storyline, I really do,
but this build up feels like you're building
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to a secondary pay per view to
get the turn of one of these guys
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on the other to then lead to
the bigger show. And that's one of
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the things that means always done really
well is like, hey, if it's
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a B show, hey we made
do a turn post match to then lead
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to we just thought a Summer Slam
for crying out loud. We saw,
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you know, Jay Usso turn on
Roman. They beat up as brother to
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build a Summer Slam, and that's
how it's done. I mean, you
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look at Russellmania like outside, I
mean, Roman Cody was not in that
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same area of says, but look
you look at Sammy and Kevin against the
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USO's like, you're building that contention
to pay off at your bigger events,
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And I think that's one thing they
haven't done very well is lay out to
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the fans, Hey, this is
our A show. These are our A
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00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:43.039
shows, these are our B shows
on pay per views, So that way,
556
00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:46.960
you know what you're kind of getting
into. Like, I love that
557
00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:50.400
their storytelling for the most part on
a lot of this stuff, it's been
558
00:40:50.440 --> 00:40:53.320
great. But even FTR and the
Bucks, you and I talked about a
559
00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:58.159
couple of weeks ago, like it's
a great matchup, this is the what
560
00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:01.599
the rubber match or the second match, third match rubber matchup, But once
561
00:41:01.639 --> 00:41:06.840
again, play back into this,
like, have some actual interactions between these
562
00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:12.480
guys, have some back and forth, even if it is friendly competitive battle
563
00:41:12.519 --> 00:41:15.639
between two the top tag teams in
the world, you know, have something
564
00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:19.280
go back and forth other than just
like you know, a little bit of
565
00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:22.079
appointing, a little bit of a
slight no like build up a little bit
566
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:25.800
of stuff in there to make me
feel like, hey, these guys have
567
00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:30.039
a personal issue, not just a
competitive issue on who's the best tag team
568
00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:35.079
in the world. Like just those
little subtle tweaks would be fine, but
569
00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:39.519
we get a lot of like last
second booking for this show and some storylines
570
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:44.960
that are great, but maybe for
you know, a Fighter Fast or you
571
00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:47.599
know one of the other pay per
views that you know are kind of down
572
00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:51.280
down the pipe a little bit to
get to this. I mean, it's
573
00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:53.559
just they have so many things they
could have done that would make sense.
574
00:41:53.559 --> 00:41:59.119
I mean, you put Jericho and
Punk in Wembley Stadium. Hey, there's
575
00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:01.719
your headliner. Well, so like
the diehard fans, yeah, Adam Cole,
576
00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:06.119
MJF We're buying into. But those
casual fans, if they're like,
577
00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:09.239
hey, we got Jericho and Punk, which is a WrestleMania rematch in Wembley
578
00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:14.079
Stadium in front of ninety thousand people, and that was one of my favorite
579
00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:17.280
WrestleMania matches because it's underrated because it
was so stiff and hard hitting with some
580
00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:22.639
real life trauma behind it exactly,
you know, like pay that off,
581
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:24.880
bring that back up, and that
way you're still not that way, you
582
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:29.960
can still save Punk and Kenny Omega
for another show, and you and I
583
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:32.559
aren't complaining about it, because hey, we can look at that real life
584
00:42:32.639 --> 00:42:37.400
drama they had, plus their history, and I'm on board with that match,
585
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:42.920
and that's just to me, match
making, simple building one on one,
586
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:45.559
and it just kind of frustrates me
when I look at it, like
587
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:52.039
they're still booking super indie shows on
a setting that is a WrestleMania type setting
588
00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:58.079
for a potentially turning point show in
their company history. Last question I want
589
00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:01.079
to ask you before we preven predict
how much is the All Out Show a
590
00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:06.000
week later taken away from this card
in your mind? If anything, I
591
00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:09.320
didn't even know there was one,
Like I think y'all out show? I
592
00:43:09.400 --> 00:43:14.000
mean, if I'm putting a show
on it for a ninety thousand people and
593
00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:16.559
I might have a show right after
it, Like, how can I possibly
594
00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:24.440
make that an event worth watching?
Like unless you do something crazy, unless
595
00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:29.280
you have a Bash at the Beach
moment or something of that ilk where we're
596
00:43:29.320 --> 00:43:31.039
like, holy cow, I can't
believe that happened. Now I have to
597
00:43:31.039 --> 00:43:35.920
watch All Out? But what are
you gonna build? What are you gonna
598
00:43:36.199 --> 00:43:40.000
what storylines are you building for All
Out? This short returnaround time. It's
599
00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:45.039
just it's completely baffling to me the
way they're setting this up. And it's
600
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:49.360
like, now, next year when
you don't have all in and you're doing
601
00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:53.519
it all out? Are you also
damaging the brand name of all out by
602
00:43:53.559 --> 00:43:58.000
putting it so close to all in? It's it's a it's a weird dichotomy.
603
00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:00.280
I would have never done it.
Well, see how it plays out.
604
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:04.840
You know, two weeks from now
we'll be talking about the all out
605
00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:08.199
All in aspect to this entire thing
and how it plays towards the future of
606
00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:12.400
AW I wouldn't have played it this
way, but it's very well possible.
607
00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:15.000
Even with the way that the card
is looking. Then a week from now,
608
00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:16.360
Doctor Trey and I sit here and
go, this is a fantastic show,
609
00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:19.639
one of the best the year,
such a great atmosphere, a lot
610
00:44:19.639 --> 00:44:23.599
of fun to watch, and we
forget about the build. But heading into
611
00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:28.280
it, it's like, man,
you have this amazing opportunity in the build
612
00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:32.199
has been lackluster and last minute,
and that's what's disappointed. As a wrestling
613
00:44:32.199 --> 00:44:37.000
family, wants to see some good
long term storylines that bringing all together,
614
00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:42.239
So we'll see where it goes.
This Sunday All in London, England,
615
00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:45.599
Wembley Stadium, expecting over eighty two
thousand people to be in attendance. It's
616
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:52.000
being build as the biggest event in
wrestling history, Doctor, and might I
617
00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:54.960
add Doctor Trey and I are recording
this during Dynamite, so it's very well
618
00:44:55.000 --> 00:45:00.519
possible that matches on this card could
be changed. Let's start with one that
619
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:05.760
could be changed. It's the pre
show match as Aussie Opened defend the ROH
620
00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:08.760
World Tag Team Championship against MJF and
Adam Cole. Aussie opened his due to
621
00:45:08.760 --> 00:45:12.119
be taken on the Hardy Boys.
As Doctor trying to record this, we
622
00:45:12.159 --> 00:45:14.800
have no idea who's won that match, so as possible, could be the
623
00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:16.599
Hardy Boys versus m Jeff and Adam
Cole. Wish to me would be more
624
00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:21.320
of a all in match than the
one with Assie Open, and I'm a
625
00:45:21.360 --> 00:45:23.800
big fan of Aussie Open. With
that said, I really like this idea
626
00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:29.320
of the main event battling for the
tag team Championship and the pre show.
627
00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:31.760
This is also a way to get
fans in their seats. You could tell
628
00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:36.559
great business by aw here that there
is concerned that fans will not be in
629
00:45:36.599 --> 00:45:39.159
their seats for the start of this
show. That's why they're putting MJF and
630
00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:42.440
Adam Cole on the pre show because
they want fans to check it out.
631
00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:44.840
With that said, I'm gonna take
m jeff and Adam Cole to become the
632
00:45:44.840 --> 00:45:47.000
new ROH World Tae Team Champions.
Doctor Try. By the way, it
633
00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:52.000
also gives Adam Cole at MJF five
hours to recover. He gives them time
634
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:55.800
to recover for the main match matches. I am going this is where I
635
00:45:55.840 --> 00:46:02.599
think we're going to differ a little
bit. I am going to take Aussie
636
00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:07.159
Open to retain their tag teams holes
by disqualifications. I think MJF and MCLE
637
00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:12.239
get the win by DQ, but
I can't see them putting the Ring of
638
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:15.039
Honor Tag Teams titles on those two
guys when they're fighting for the world title
639
00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:19.519
and then you have nothing on that
Ring of Honor brand for tag teams.
640
00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:23.000
So I just can't seem MJF and
MCLE being on a Ring of Honor YouTube
641
00:46:23.000 --> 00:46:28.440
show. So I will take Assie
Open to retain their tag titles by disqualification.
642
00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:31.440
Next match here is for the AW
World Tag Team Championship is FTR Defense
643
00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:36.000
against the Young Bucks. I'm going
to take the Young Bucks in this one,
644
00:46:36.039 --> 00:46:39.159
Doctor Trey. I think with Cash
Wheeler's recent arrests, and potential legal
645
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:44.000
troubles. They may look to get
the titles off of FTR rather than keep
646
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:45.360
them on them when this is going
on. So I'm gonna take the Bucks.
647
00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:50.360
I'm taking the Bucks for the cash
wheeler thing. And then also,
648
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:53.440
like, if you're going to get
to a point where we do the elite
649
00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:58.159
versus c mftrs, that what you
called them left, that's right, that's
650
00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:02.360
where they go by c MFTR,
CMFDR. Somebody's gotta played the bad guy.
651
00:47:02.840 --> 00:47:07.000
So if the Bucks win, FDR
gets mad. Now you can have
652
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:12.440
FDR, the FDR and CM punk
to play the heels against the elite.
653
00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:15.679
Get more buy in for that,
and it makes it more compelling. So
654
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:17.559
I will take the Bucks to win
the World Tag Team title as well.
655
00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:22.880
Next match, here's a car Sheeta
versus Tony Storm versus Sorea versus Doctor Burt
656
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:25.559
Baker dm D in a four way
match for the aw Women's World Championship across
657
00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:30.320
sheet of defending Doctor Trey. Who
do you like in this one? I
658
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:34.559
am taking Sirea to win because I
think if she has the belt, then
659
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:37.199
she can have the outcast kind of
play buffers. That way, she doesn't
660
00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:40.400
have to work as much. I
think this was their idea to transition the
661
00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:44.280
belt off Tony Storm and put it
on Sorea to get more eyes on the
662
00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:46.440
product. Plus, then you can
build to Britt Baker and Sorea again.
663
00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:52.239
So I will take Sirea winning the
world title. Women have women's title in
664
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:55.360
her homeland of England as well.
I love that call, Doctor Trey.
665
00:47:55.679 --> 00:47:59.239
I would love to go with Sorea, but I'm gonna go with doctor Burt
666
00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:00.840
Baker. Dm D. I think
they gotta put the championship back on her,
667
00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:04.880
But I love your pick for Surrey. You almost convinced me to make
668
00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:07.800
a switch, but I'm gonna stick
with my pick here with Doctor Burt Baker.
669
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:12.079
Next match is Darby Allen and Staying
taking on Swerve Strickland and R Fox
670
00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:15.280
of the Mobile Embassy and a tag
team coffin match. I'm so happy for
671
00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:17.440
swarving r Fox getting this opportunity.
Dat straight, Who do you like in
672
00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:22.519
this one? By the way,
why do the baby Faces go attack somebody
673
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:27.519
in their building because they were they
attacked Nick Wayne? Yeah, but you
674
00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:31.039
that's basically got home invasion and baby
Faces don't do well other than Steve Austin.
675
00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:35.599
I thought it was eye for an
Eye. I liked it. To
676
00:48:35.719 --> 00:48:37.880
me, it's was it's one of
It's just old school me. I'm taking
677
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:43.000
Stinging Darby Allen because Sting doesn't lose
in AW so I take Stinging Darby Allen.
678
00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:45.760
There are rumors that this could potentially
be his last match, staying Darby
679
00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:50.800
Allen or with Sting. Excuse me, I'm gonna take Singing Darby Allen and
680
00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:53.440
get the victory as well. By
the way, is that all letdown for
681
00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:57.840
you? If this is Sting's last
match, that it's And notice I think
682
00:48:57.880 --> 00:49:01.000
the survn aar fox. But if
this is things less match, would you
683
00:49:01.039 --> 00:49:06.880
want to go out and kind a
bigger, bigger match. Yeah, But
684
00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:10.000
I guess maybe the stage is what
they're thinking that this could be his last
685
00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:13.599
match on I mean, this is
just pure speculation, but I agree the
686
00:49:13.719 --> 00:49:17.000
match. No, I think Darby
Allen versus Sting would be a great way
687
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:20.760
for him to go out. But
I think they're just thinking at the stage
688
00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:24.639
of Wembley Stadium, eighty thousand is
a potential here. Okay, it's Corbyn,
689
00:49:24.760 --> 00:49:28.239
It's Barren Corbyn. Kurt angle to
me what it is? Yeah,
690
00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:30.559
No, I hear you. Next
match is the Golden Elite Coda Boushi,
691
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:34.920
Kenny, Omegan, Hangman and and
Paige checking on Cano Skate Takeshka, j
692
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:37.719
White and Juce Robinson, all those
two of Bullet Club Gold and a six
693
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:42.239
man tag team match. I'm going
to take the Golden Elite Coda, Kenny
694
00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:45.360
and Hangman. Yeah, I'm taking
the Golden lead as well. You don't
695
00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:46.599
have Cod to come in and with
d have Cod to lose, even though
696
00:49:47.079 --> 00:49:52.320
I do like Bullet Club Gold,
but just on this stage, and plus
697
00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:54.239
it can always build up to Omega
and to Keshka as well, So I'll
698
00:49:54.280 --> 00:49:59.119
take the Golden and Elite getting the
win. Next match here is the Stadium
699
00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:01.679
Stampede match. Just Eddie Kinkson Orange, Cassie, Chuck Taylor, Trent Breta,
700
00:50:01.760 --> 00:50:06.360
Penta El, Sarah Mieto, and
to be announced because Ray Phoenix is
701
00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:09.360
reportedly injured. They'll be taking on
John Moxley, Caudiocass and Only Wheeler.
702
00:50:09.440 --> 00:50:14.280
You to the Blackpool Combat Club and
three mystery partners. Again. They may
703
00:50:14.360 --> 00:50:19.760
have announced the rest of this match
while we're recording this, so we don't
704
00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:22.800
know. But Doctor Trey, who
do you like in this one? Somebody's
705
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:24.239
getting Mirro in this match. That's
all I can think of right now.
706
00:50:24.840 --> 00:50:29.599
Mirro's on one side again or the
other, because he doesn't really have anything
707
00:50:29.679 --> 00:50:34.360
on this on the show today.
So I'm taking Blackpool Combat Club because I
708
00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:37.320
just don't think you can have them
lose two best friends, and as much
709
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:40.599
as I love Chuck and Trent,
they're just not on the level of the
710
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:45.400
rest of Blackpool Combat Club. I
like him taking Blackpool Combat Club and the
711
00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:49.559
three Mystery Partners to get the victory
in Stadium Sampane. This is gonna be
712
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:52.480
a lot of fun. I love
that they're doing this match at Wembley.
713
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:55.440
Next match is a dream match of
sorts, depending on if you think it's
714
00:50:55.480 --> 00:50:58.559
a dream match. I think it
is. I don't know if Doctor Trey
715
00:50:58.599 --> 00:51:01.559
feels the same way, but we'll
lost taken on Chris Jericho. I'm gonna
716
00:51:01.559 --> 00:51:07.199
take will Osprey getting the victory.
Yeah, I mean it's a dress.
717
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:09.280
Sorry, I was thinking about who
I picking this match, but yeah,
718
00:51:09.480 --> 00:51:15.440
on paper, it's a dream matches
is like generational type stuff and two guys
719
00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:19.199
that have kind of came up very
similar the business being high flyers then putting
720
00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:23.360
on some size and getting a little
bit more brutes. Yeah, I really
721
00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:27.679
want to pick Jericho's I think he
needs a win, not that for legacy,
722
00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:30.840
is just for his standing in AW. But once again, it's will
723
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:32.760
Osprey in the United Kingdom that crowds
would go nuts for him. So I'll
724
00:51:32.800 --> 00:51:37.119
take will Osprey as well. Next
match, here's for the real World Championships.
725
00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:40.400
See him Punk defends against Samoa Joe. I'm gonna take see him Punk
726
00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:44.159
in this one, Doctor Trey,
because I feel like he challenges for the
727
00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:50.559
AW Championship a week later at All
Out in Chicago. Yeah, I'm same
728
00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:52.519
thing for me as much as I
love. By the way, have you
729
00:51:52.559 --> 00:51:54.800
watched sust the medal yet he take? No, I've heard it's very good.
730
00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:59.039
It's very good, even though Joe
doesn't talk, which is disappointed because
731
00:51:59.079 --> 00:52:01.280
his voice would be great in the
role. But it's it's it's really entertaining.
732
00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:06.400
I'm taking Cmpunk as well because I
don't know the last time Joe beat
733
00:52:06.599 --> 00:52:08.400
CM Punk was it was probably a
ring of honor then, right yep?
734
00:52:08.519 --> 00:52:14.960
Yeah yeah, Sampunk did not ever
defeat Samoa Joe until recently the Ownhart Tournament
735
00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:16.920
in a w sows. I think
it was Owen three in his career.
736
00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:21.280
Okay, so I'll take Sampunk as
a guy to get back to even so
737
00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:24.320
to massages ego a little bit,
and then finally the main event for the
738
00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:30.599
AW World Champion, Doctor Trey MJF
defends against Adam Cole. Uh. This
739
00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:31.679
one, This one, I don't
know about you. This one's a little
740
00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:35.119
bit hard for me because I've kind
of been going back and forth on it
741
00:52:35.239 --> 00:52:37.199
because I could see it going both
ways. I could see either one of
742
00:52:37.239 --> 00:52:44.239
the guys turning on the other guy. I'm gonna take MJF to retain because
743
00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:49.079
I don't want to say it's a
been a lackluster title run, but I
744
00:52:49.239 --> 00:52:53.159
think he needs some signature title wins
to really establish his legacy as champion,
745
00:52:54.280 --> 00:52:59.440
So I'll take MJF getting the win
at all Out. I don't think there's
746
00:52:59.599 --> 00:53:01.920
any wrong with you saying that it's
been a lackluster run, because I would
747
00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:06.480
agree with you. It's not where
I thought it would be so far,
748
00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:10.800
it's been below my expectations, slightly
below my expectations. With that said,
749
00:53:12.039 --> 00:53:16.639
I'm going to take MJF to retain
and take on CM Punk a week later
750
00:53:16.760 --> 00:53:21.239
at All Out so both of us
taking MJF dot I'm kind of surprising that
751
00:53:22.119 --> 00:53:24.719
not to mention, and once again, this is that near sightedness of AW,
752
00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:28.559
like, we're going to get if
that, if that comes through first,
753
00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:32.440
we're getting in JF and Punk within
a week. It's the World World
754
00:53:32.559 --> 00:53:37.239
Championship stuff. That's the It's like
it's predictable in that sense, which which
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one makes it, which match gets
lessened by the other one. That's the
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like, are we so like after
the show? Are we like, oh
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my god, MJFLE is great,
Oh yeah, we got to see him
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Punk match coming up? Or are
we like I can't believe they're doing this
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because that CM Punk MJF match based
on their history would be amazing. But
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we've had less than a less than
a week build up to it, so
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it's gonna be like they're kind of
shooting themselves in the foot for all out
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based on having all in so soon. Yeah, I would love to know
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behind the scenes, like how did
this? Why is all in and all
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out around the same time. I
don't know if there's a story out there
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right now. I felt like I
had read at some point that this was
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one of the only weekends that AW
could have Wembley Stadium, and I may
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be incorrect in that, but I
would have never done the biggest show in
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the history of your promotion then a
week later doing another show that you know.
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Doctor Trey and I debate all the
time, like is this the Kuda
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grah for aw or is it double
or nothing? I don't believe it's revolution.
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I don't believe it's full gear.
I feel like it's either all out
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or double or nothing. Which one
is their WrestleMania. I don't know,
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it's it's a it's a scenario we
never have seen really play out all that
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much. Ww we did it once
in recent memory that I could think of.
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I think they did Summer Slam one
week and then a week later.
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They did Payback in twenty twenty,
but twenty twenty was really weird and fucked
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up, so maybe that's why they
I did it. Here we are three
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years later, and they did not
have eighty thousand people in attendance for summers
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them. They had like ten,
and those were production workers and then people
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on a screen in Devinwi. So
I don't know. I'm Nonetheless, I'm
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excited, Dr Trey. I'm excited
to see this crowd. I'm excited to
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see the energy. I'm excited to
see the audience. I expect it to
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be a very fun and entertaining show. I hope a week later we're sitting
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here going man, all in exceeded
expectations and then some. Despite the poor
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built it's weird. I have to
kind of preference myself when I watched the
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show and knowing that, look,
if this crowd is anything like Cardiff,
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it like you and I are.
Theorisaid it was a fantastic show because the
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crowd energy will pump it up,
just like the show in Puerto Rico.
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Like on paper as solid show,
but then the crowd energy just brings it
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up even more. So I kind
of like, I always want to watch
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the show with no crowd volume,
Joe, so I can see all right
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on my or not, because I
know the crowd's gonna hype me up even
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more. So I'm really really looking
forward to that as well, Like it's
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gonna be a great environment. The
UK deserves this so much and I really
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just hope that it hits all of
their expectations because this is you know,
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all hands on deck, all eyes
on the product, and you're gonna have
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more fans checking this out for AW
than they've had on any other show,
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So you got to bring your A
game and then follow up with another A
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game because you have All Out a
week later. Yeah, and we will
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recap and review All In on next
week's edition in the podcast on August thirty,
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first episode seven h seven will recap
interview all In, and then we
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will also preview predicted WWE Payback and
AW all Out. So there's a lot
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going on heading into this Labor Day
holiday here in the United States. I
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expected to be a very fun and
historic weekend for all the wrestling. I'm
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00:56:54.239 --> 00:56:57.519
excited for them. They deserve this. It's gonna be a lot of fun.
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I'm excited for the UK fans and
recap and review at All for you
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on next week's edition of the podcast. With that said, let's get a
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couple of plugs and sponsor out of
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and subscribe to help climb the charts
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for dct tre Franklin at d Doctor
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a show on Twitter at SRTU Podcasts. With that being said, what's going
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on the wonderful world of Doctor Stray
Franklin this week? Well, like Jeff
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said, you can follow me on
X Twitter, Twitter, X Twitter X
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whatever you want to call it.
I don't know, uh, the elon
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must thing, I'll just do that. It's not tesla. But you can
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follow me there at duntor tree.
You can find me on Facebook and Instagram
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actually all meta, so I can
just throw meta. You follow me on
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Meta at the Doctor or just search
out Doctor Trey Franklin. You can find
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me on Meta. When you're on
Meta, check out Rocket City Championship Wrestlings,
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parton Championship Wrestling through the better shows
going in the Southeast today, but
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more importantly with the passing and Terry
Funk, it's just reminder go out and
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support your locally independent wrestling shows.
I mean ECW literally Head Sandman as a
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surfer when Terry Funk showed up.
You know, all these small independence shows.
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If a legend like Terry Funk can
make the rounds or you know any
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of those other big stars that we
set from our past that we've seen making
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the rounds in the INDEPENDCA That means
you can get off the couch. Football
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teams done the surfer a couple of
more weeks, go out on a Saturday
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night, check out your look with
the tennant Wrestling show, because you might
832
00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:30.920
find him JF. You might find
the next Adam Call. You might find
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the next Darby Alan, the next
Nick Wayne at your locally dependent shows and
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be like, yeah, I remember
them when and be cool to all of
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your friends that you tell our show
about. So there you go. Support
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all the great things that support SRTU. Spread the word about the Sorelto show.
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And I just saw it drop on
my phone. Here my iTunes subscription.
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The Terry Funk episode My Interview with
Terry Funk thirteen years ago is now
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available for download up on the SRTU
iTunes feed, so go out there to
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check it out. It's also up
on real Guy Rata dot com. As
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we pay tribute to Terry Funk on
his passing today, So again, rest
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in peace to Terry Funk. Enjoy
aw all in this Sunday. It's during
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the day here in the United States, which is gonna be great, so
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that you could actually sleep normal during
AW pay per view, unless because from
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noontime till nine pm East, which
is possible. I want to put it
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past Tony con sometimes. Nonetheless,
a historic weekend is upon us, a
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historic couple of weeks here, a
lot of pay per views taking place,
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all in, payback, all out, and we will cover it here each
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and every week on SRTU. So
until next week, enjoy the weekend,
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enjoy AW all in for Duct tre
Franklin. I'm Jeff Pack. This is
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this a real Bush show. Didn't
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