Dec. 29, 2023
AEW World's End Preview | SRTU Bonus | 12/29/23
On this special bonus episode of The Still Real to Us Show:
- -- We preview & predict this Saturday's AEW World's End!
On this special bonus episode of The Still Real to Us Show:
- -- We preview & predict this Saturday's AEW World's End!
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It's still really to be damn.
Welcome everybody to this special bonus edition of
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the Cereal To Show for December twenty
ninth, twenty twenty three. It is
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our aw World's End preview and predictions. We're taking a break during our holiday
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break to come up here and I
don't know, do a couple of minutes
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and go through this Saturday's pay per
view, Doctor Troy. We usually take
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three straight weeks off. We pre
recorded the show from last week, the
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show yesterday, and the show next
week well in advance. But here we
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are thanks to Tony Kahan interjecting ourselves
with some timely wrestling content. Hello,
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my friends, so good to be
here, My friends. Sorry, I
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flashback to the pre show here.
I just it's a little weird to be
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jumping back in. I can tell
your enthusiasm level was not there. We
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didn't get the big hurrah O.
I try not to do the normal opening
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when it's the bonus edition. I
just like to try to get right into
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it because I feel like there's the
bonus edition is like here we are,
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this is us. But then usually
that our bonusis are was like sad news.
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That is true. It has been
that way as of late. It
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was the last time we did it
was the Bray White Show. We have
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interrupted our holiday programming schedule in the
past when Brody Lee passed away. A
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lot of remembrance for both those guys
over the last week with Brody Lee's passing.
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Now, what was that three years
ago? Yeah, I mean it's
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just it's just wild. I mean, at least this time, it's it's
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like happiness that we're interjecting ourselves with
because we've got a pay per view.
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I don't know how I feel about
a pay per view during the holiday like
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this, but I know that this
was a common thing. I remember I
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grew up in starkad would be taking
place like this upcoming weekend. Yeah,
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and then you know we got all
these now, like ww's kind of taking
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a page from Adew's book with having
these branded themed raws and smackdowns as well
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as I like that. I really
liked that, by the way. Uh,
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I like that Day one in New
Year's Revolution is back in the rotation.
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I think it's a smart thing to
do because they're going to be battling.
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This is your wheelhouse, Doctor Trey, not so much mine, But
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they're gonna be battling college football all
next week. So does this mean like
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this is like ww's answer to bowl
season. I think, I think in
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a way right, like because Monday
night, uh what the second game,
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the second semi final game, I
think kicks off at eight. I think
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Rose Bowl is at five thirty,
So I mean I'll be watching Raw,
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most likely live or delayed. But
I would imagine well, for you,
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right the the sans Alabama fan Michigan
and Alabama will be probably done by the
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start of Raw. I'm hoping so
because that's that's that's a hard that's a
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hard choice because it's a weird by
the way, this side note, this
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is a weird game for me because
I like Jim Harbaugh X forty nine Ers
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coach and I like Alabama, so
I don't know who to root for that
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one. So yeah, yeah,
yeah, no, it's it's strange.
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I know Monday Night's gonna be battle
for them, and then I don't think
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the National Championship game is until about
a week later, So I mean,
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definitely the day one edition of Raw
is going to be quite the battle and
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taking on the semi finals, and
then people like doing New Year's type stuff
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like I don't know about you,
doctor Trey, but usually like my family
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or my in laws, like we
have dinner together and then the holidays are
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officially closed and I'm back to my
normal work and grind. The next day
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on the second, January second,
is like one of the hardest days of
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the year. I think it's like
she, I think it's it's got to
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be one of the hardest. Now
I'm trying to have I'm trying to think,
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like what other day would my mind
not want to be doing anything,
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because I don't know. Doctor Trey
and I were just talking, like we're
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both intermittently working right now, doctor
Trey more than I am, because like
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my job is very quiet, Doctor
Trey is out and about, so I
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guess it's a little bit easier.
But like December fifteenth hits for me and
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I'm like tuned out, Like it's
very rare that I get an opportunity to
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take a break from the personal work, podcasting, hobbies, life that I
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have outside of this spectrum of SRTU. So I always take like these two
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and a half three weeks and just
kind of reset a little bit, and
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then when January second rolls around for
me, it's like son of uh bitch.
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Yeah, like the company I'm with
now, it's a little weird.
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For like last year when I was
running the live events team, like there's
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there's no events in December because it's
too cold to actually be out there and
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running a fair or a festival or
what is too cold in Alabama? Uh
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thirty five forty okay, people,
that is cold. That is cold.
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That's that is cold. Like our
highest week like today's forty seven. So
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like for Alabama, it's pretty cold. But like you know, if you're
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running events, they usually start like
seven o'clock, eight o'clock in the morning,
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and those are it's still thirty three
thirty forty freez. We don't people
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don't like getting out that early.
So with now moving over to the retail
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side, it's still slow ish because
it's these are in home improvement stores,
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so it's still slow ish. But
I didn't know my company had unlimited PTO
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and I'm like, shit, I
could just taken these entire two weeks off
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and nobody was said a word to
me about it. But I feel guilty
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about doing stuff like that, so
I'm just like, no, I'll keep
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working. But it is weird,
like I'm literally like trying to do a
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schedule for the people that work under
me, and I'm like, we can't
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be in the store on Sunday,
we can't be in the store on Monday,
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and the company doesn't really want us
in the stores on Tuesdays. So
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we're only back in the store Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, back
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out again on Sunday and Monday,
and then light schedule on Tuesday. I'm
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like, why are we even doing
anything? Can we just shut it down?
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But oh, by the way,
I was seeing this, why like
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thinking about bull season and wrestling.
I know, I'm kind of squirreling around
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here and jumping around a bit,
but this popped in my head when you're
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talking about like why hat, since
we're doing these branded events like like Day
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one Revolution, why don't they look
for sponsorship? Because I would love to
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see Manscape or Manscaper Presents Monday Night
Raw grape Balls of Fire. I would
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have me, well, duh,
yeah, I would love to see that,
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or bring it back, Tostitos SmackDown. You know, it's just what
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it just like little things like that
like that would be a way for them
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to make a little bit more revenue, like, I don't see why they
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haven't tapped into those like college football
has done for the better part of the
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last thirty years. Hey, listen, we're talking to Nick con right now,
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so might as well let mean throw
it out there. Hello, Yeah,
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let's do it. Nick co On, please hop on in there and
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take advantage of the grape Balls of
Fire returned by Presented by Manscape. One
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of my favorite January and I think
they only did this once and I've definitely
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talked about this on the podcast somewhere
in my wrestling fan library of vhs and
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DVD which, by the way,
rip WE DVDs. WWE Home Video closes
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like this week. It's it's done. On December thirty. First, they
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just ran their final DVD, which
is a survivor series, War Games,
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and I don't think that is gonna
be talked enough about, probably the only
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time this will be mentioned this podcast
that like w W Home Video is closing,
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which has been around forever. Coliseum
home Video at one point they were
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doing all their stuff, but one
of my favorite branded special football type events
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they ever did was the Raw Bowl. Do you do you remember that?
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Doctrin? Basically essentially it was a
fatal four way elimination fatal four way tag
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team match. It was like Breton
Yoko, the Smoking Guns one two three
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kid in Psycho Sid and I think
Razormon and Savio Vega. I almost am
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positive I just nailed that. I
think you did because as your mentioning,
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IM like, I know Savio Vega
was in there, like I was remembering,
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I was like, oh yeah.
And then I think, didn't they
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even have like like those little like
craft jersey type they think they did?
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Yes? Yeah, see how you
do remember that? See? My favorite
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thing was always the when they would
do the halftimee shows where we got Rock
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and Magki and in the Efty Arena
match was yes, yes. And I
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actually think the Raw Bull episode there
was a halftime show and I've had something
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to do with like gold Dust I
remember, oh yeah yeah. So but
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I always love when they would do
the football tie is because I mean half
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I would think probably eighty percent of
the wrestling roster were formal like high school
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football players. You know, most
of those guys were big kids growing up.
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Anyway, I'm talking about you know, the eighties and nineties wrestlers,
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not the guys today that are one
hundred and seventy five pounds. But you
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know a lot of those guys played
football, so it's kind of like a
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way that's kind of harkened back.
I mean, you got guys like Hacksaw
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Jim Duggan and you know guy you
know, Wahoo McDaniel, and you know,
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all the way through Goldber, guys
who actually played in the NFL and
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stuff like that. Like those guys, you know, you threw up a
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wrestling thing, you know, paper
or event and people got fired up.
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Plus those were always in response to
how great the Bug Bowls and the Puppy
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Bowls were also back in the nineties. Yes, yeah, so go out
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of your way. I'm sure it's
up on YouTube. Check out Raw Bull.
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Uh. But yeah, next week
is a big week. We certainly
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are not going to be in the
next week's edition the podcast because it's already
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been pre recorded. It's our wrestling
preview special, which actually goes toe to
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toe with w w we's Previews special. That's Aaron on Peacock. So yeah,
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let's go hut at wa. But
yeah, in about two weeks we'll
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get back to our normal regular schedule
programming for SRTU. That falls on December
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eleventh, excuse me, January eleventh, and it's possible, I don't know.
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Maybe Doctor Trey and I will hop
on here next week and we'll do
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a recap as well. If not, we'll certainly cover World's end recap on
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the January eleventh edition. So just
stay tuned, continue to download US where
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you get US iTunes, Spotify,
what have you, and keep an eye
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on the social media content feeds and
Facebook pages and see when this podcast comes
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up. So we debated actually doing
this, decided that we were going to
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do something here for a little bit
at least get another one in there for
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the end of the year and get
you ready for Saturday's aw Worlds and pay
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per view, which comes to us
from the Nasau Veterans More Coliseum in Uniondale,
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Long Island, New York. I
love when we it's like the only
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part of the United States that we
treat like it's a providence in Canada where
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they're like Montreal, Quebec, Canada. Like only in Long Island, Are
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you like Uniondale, Long Island,
New York, Because people like, oh
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I thought it was a Long Island. It is, but Uniondale is the
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town in Long Island, so it's
like, Okay, Canada, Long Island.
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Yeah, it's all the same at
the end of the day. So
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let's get to it here, Doctor
Turr. As of right now, they
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have announced as we record this one, two, three, four, five,
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six, seven, eight, nine, ten matches. I expect some
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to be added. One match on
here that I don't see right now that
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I expect to be added as FTR
taking on Buddy Matthews and Aliser Black or
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Malachi Black at the paper view.
I would imagine that takes place. But
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they only have one show really to
announce these matches, whether it's online or
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on Rampage on Friday night, No
Collision on Saturday, The Collision Cowboys Stay
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Home in lieu of World End taking
place on Saturday night live in Long Island.
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So the first match here, Doctor
Trey is a twenty man Battle Royal
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for a future AWT and T Championship
matches. You and I record this.
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They haven't announced a soul that is
going to participate in this match, so
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we have no ideas. So the
way that I went about this is I
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looked at the Continental Classic. I
looked at the card, and I was
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like, Okay, who performed well
in the Continental Classic and is not performing
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in the pay per view. A
couple of big names, Brodie Lee and
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Andreddai Alito is in the pay per
view later on Claudium Cassick No Lee is
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not. So when I looked at
the standings, I was like, Ah,
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this person who performed on Wednesday night
in a phenomenal triple threat match with
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Swarve Strickland and John Moxley. I'm
gonna go with Jay White to win this
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battle Royal Doctor Trey, I'm thinking
I honestly, so let's see, I
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went Continental Classic like like, that's
kind of I feel like those are the
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favorites of Tony con right now.
So is Christian and Adam Copland on the
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card for the match they are They're
in a no DQ match, okay,
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for the TNT Championship. So if
I go there, yeah, you know
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what, I typically try to go
way off the radar with us, but
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you know, I think I think
I'll take Claudio to get the win.
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All right, If that makes sense, Yeah, let's do it. Claudia
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Lucassignoli is doctor Trace pitt Pick.
I'm gonna go with Jay White next match.
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Here is on the pre show,
Hook defends the FTW Championship against Wheelery
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Utah in an FTW rules match.
No idea what that means, but it's
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an FTW rules match, so I
mean FTW. I mean I know what
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that stood for, so I don't
know if that means the rules are.
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Like if we if we get the
no rope match like we saw on an
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XT the other night, I'm going
to take hook uh in the just because
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I can't see Wheeler Year running around. Although that would bring back the oh,
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the guy that Claudia fought, the
Bloodsport guy. Oh, Josh Barnett,
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Josh Barnett. Yeah, it's gonna
say Josh Briggs. I'm like,
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that's the wrong Josh b You could
do the blood Sport rules. If you
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have the FTW title, do all
your matches under those kind of rules.
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I still think I'll take Hook.
I'll take Hook. There we go.
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I'm gonna take Hook as well.
He's the hometown guy, so I'm gonna
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take Hook to win the match.
Next match, here's the Championship final for
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the AW Continental Classic for the inaugural
Triple Crown Championship of the ROH World Championship,
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New Japan's Strong open weight Championship and
the inaugural ae W Continental Championship.
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We have no idea what that title
looks like yet. Eddie Kinkson takes on
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John Moxley, the winner of both
the Gold League and Blue League finals.
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The booking of Eddie Kinkson has been
a lot of fun in this He started
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down OH two, worked his way
back up, became an underdog, finally
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defeated Brian Danielson on Wednesday Night's edition
of AW Dynamite. I'm really looking forward
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to this one ton of momentum on
Eddie Kinkson's side. I think they did
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this tournament. He put up his
They mentioned multiple times his life work of
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roa trold title on the New Japan
Strong open Weight Championship to be in this
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tournament, and therefore, I think
that this tournament is the opportunity to springboard
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Eddie Kinkson some more. I'm going
to take Eddie Kinkson to win this match,
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and I just want to give a
little tip of the cap to AW.
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The Continental Classic tournament was a ton
of fun to watch, really fun
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matches, great stuff. It is
what has carried AAW since Full Gear to
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now and it's literally just been this
tournament to me, that has truly carried
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aw looking forward to this in hopeful
year's future. Eddie Kinkson has my choice
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to win this match, Doctor Trey. Yeah, I think Eddie kings is
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my choice as well, and a
lot of it is because of the Moxley
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booking. Like you, swar Strickland
obviously probably the hottest star on the roster,
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does not get the win because it's
like, Okay, you got something
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else planned first, Sword's than this. Then you have Moxley go over to
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have Kingston beat Moxley, and those
guys are like best friends in real life,
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so I don't think Moxie is might
losing to Eddie Kingson to help elevate
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his friend. So I'll take Eddie
Kingston as well. Next match, Year's
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Julia Hart to fend the AWTBS Championship
against Abadon, Doctor Tree, Who do
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you like in this one? Man? This was tough because I really like
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Abadon, She's a really fun character. But I'm gonna take Julia Hart using
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her black magic against the Abaddon zombie
magic and maybe a little sistant from sky
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Blues Blue Magic to overcome Abudon's zombie
magic. Yes, Okay, Wow,
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and they were in Orlando on Wednesday
night, the home of the Orlando Magic.
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Ironically enough, I'm gonna take Julia
Hart to retain the AWTBS Championship as
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well. This feud has been decent. I'm happy for Abdon to get into
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a little bit more TV time.
She was a really fun character, like
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in twenty twenty, twenty twenty one. I know she'd I think she'd battled
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some injuries and have been away for
a while off of AW television. So
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it's cool to see her in the
spot and it's a nice, nice little
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AWTBS Championship feud. Next match is
Timeless Tony Storm defend the AW Women's World
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Championship against Riho. I'm going to
take Timeless Tony Storm to win and retain.
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And I just have a feeling doctor
Trey that Jamie Hayter or a doctor
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Burt Baker maybe returning at Saturday's AW
World's End event. Yeah, there about
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due. I'm taking Timeless Tony Storm
as well. Like I like Rio,
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but I mean from where she was
at when the show first launched a few
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years ago to where she is now, Like, I mean, she's not
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even a top Japanese superstar in Order's
division. I think you could at Tashida,
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So like for me, it is
kind of just a you know,
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we're adding days to Tony's run type
match, so I'll take Tony Storm as
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well. Yeah, I mean Rio
got derailed a lot by the pandemic and
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then just very intermittently she's involved in
the pro in the promotion. I don't
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even really know if she's technically a
full time wrestler for them at this point
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based on how things are. But
you really forget that Rijo was the first
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AW women's World champion. It's it's
kind of absurd in a way, but
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the women's division in AW can be
a podcast in itself. Next match here
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is Ricky Stark's Big Bill, Kyle
Fletcher and Powerhouse Ops taken on Christ Jericho,
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Samy Gevara, Sting and Darby Allen
in a eight man tag team match.
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Obviously, this is a match that
is taking place because of the dive
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tiiculitis with Kenny Omega, which could
have resulted in death based on some things
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that are being reported out there right
now. The Chris Jericho Samy gevar reunion
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is a quick creative response to that, so I assume they don't think Kenny
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Omego will be back anytime soon.
We'll get Doctor Trey's thoughts on this in
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just a second, but I felt
like at one point Doctor Trey sidebaring this
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all that Don Catallus was going to
be revealed as the devil and that Powerhouse
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ops Kyle Fletcher Powerhouse Kence Kenoski to
Keshka and Samy, We're gonna be the
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Devil's henchman. That may be all
out the window because Sammy is reunited with
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Chris Jericho, but here we are. I mean, this is kind of
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in response to the Kenny Omega stuff. And this also gets Stinging Darby Allen
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on the card as well. In
an eight man tag team match. Who
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do you like in this one?
And I guess give your thoughts on the
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Jericho Samy Gevar reunion. So I'm
gonna take the Sting Darby Allen Jericho Gavar
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team because Sting doesn't lose him lose
like two months before his retirement match in
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a random eight man tag So you
have Sting and Sting in Jericho on the
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same team as well. It is
pretty pretty cool. So I'll take those
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guys in the win, and it's
just kind of such a knee jerk booking
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response. It is literally like this
may be like I give credit to WB
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for having the worst baby face turn
of all time when Al bernadel Rio turned
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baby face because of the spansion now
table Sammy Goavarz hearned baby face because of
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a baby So that's literally like the
ultimate reason to turn babyface. So it's
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just one of those things where just
like it sucks that you know, Kitty
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got you know, diverticul lies because
we all know the brock Lesnar story and
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how much that mess brought up.
It's just it is kind of a shame
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that you don't have somebody in place
to kind of want to elevate into a
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good babyface role other than flipping Sammy
Gavara against Samy gavar Is quickly becoming the
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big show of AW. I was
literally thinking the same thing. It's like
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the more kids like been baby facing, heel like I think already a dozen
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times in five years of AW,
so it's just hard to kind of keep
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up. And it's like, Okay, we turned a baby face because Don
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Challis put his baby in a painting, Like, does that make Don callus
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the villain from Ghostbusters too, or
you just you don't do the match for
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a while. Yeah, I guess
it does in a way. He is
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the villain from Ghostbusters too. But
yeah, I'm gonna take Jericho, Sammy
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Sting and Darby Allen as well.
But creatively, in this entire thing,
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I think this is a big problem
I have with AW creative is that the
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follow through. I get it.
I understand their hands are tied. The
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belief is that probably Kenny's going to
be out for a while. But say
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Kenny does make a miraculous return and
he's back a month from now, and
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then it leads to Sammy turning on
Chris Jericho again. That wouldn't shock me
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at all. It actually wouldn't shock
me if Sammy turns on Jericho this Saturday.
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AW World's end. There's just so
many like you just had FTR make
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the save for Daniel Garcia and oh
God Millard their magic Daddy Magic Millard there
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from the former JAS like pair.
Daniel Garcia up with Jericho, got a
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great hand. Yeah do that,
I mean dip into the stuff like Jay
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Haeger makes a ton of sense.
They can go off on the story about
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how Hagar basically saved Jericho's life overseas
several years ago when they were both in
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Wue like they have in the past. I just felt like there were so
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many different ways to go about this
and then go in the Sammyovar well again,
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it was just really strange because they
had the big turn at I believe
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Grand Slam where he turned on Jericho
and then he either got concussed I think
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he got concuss at Wrestled Dream and
then we hadn't seen him because he was
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concussed and then had the maternity leave
by having a baby with he and his
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wife te Mellow Time Mello. It's
like, what like this just I don't
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know, very poorly executed in just
a lack of different options that could have
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made sense. Is he the worst
of the four pillars right now? Based
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on the booking. Based on the
booking, I would still put Jungle Boy
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Jack Perry. I'm I don't.
I mean this again could be a podcast
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in itself, I mean all three
of the four And I'm a RB Allen
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fan. I like Sam mcvaris in
ring work. I think we all know
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how I feel about Jungle Boy Jack
Perry. Like Jack Perry was as a
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character over the heel turn of the
summer was starting to take a turn in
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like this swarming villain that was you
wanted to punch in the face. But
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like, and I know they could
still kick my ass, but visually,
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three out of the four don't look
like they could kick my ass, like
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it could be in a decently even
fight. And I've just never been I
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know that's a very old school approach, but I just have never felt that
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those guys are are truly the four
pillars of the company. I I throw
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Orange in as the fifth pillar then, and I'm like, yeah, even
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Orange, I don't think I could. I think most people could think they
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could take orangin to fight as well. Yeah I would. I would say
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guys like Moxley, Jericho, Omega, maybe like the Bucks or like the
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true pillars of that company. But
whatever it is, what it is.
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Enough of that next match here has
been is Christian Cage defending the AWT and
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T Championship in any Notice qualification match
against Adam Copeland. This has been kind
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of a mild feud. I don't
know where kill Switch Lucasaurus is. I
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don't know if he's hurt or I
don't believe he was written off of television.
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I think he may be hurt,
but there's been like zero explanation.
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They changed his name, he wrestled
on Collision and then disappeared, and then
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nothing has come out of this.
Cage defeated Copeland when Nick Wayne's mom interfered,
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her acting is like up there with
some of the worst I've seen Judy
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Bagwell, yeah, but she has
like the potential to be Vicky Guerrero bad
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or good as well, Like you
don't know where that's going to go.
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But nonetheless, I don't know.
The Adam Copeland booking of AW has been
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peculiar at best. I feel like
a ton of momentum and hype and popularity
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and excitement and then it's been kind
of mild so far. I don't I
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don't know. That's always been the
trend with with a lot of the debuts
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in AW for some reason. With
that said, I do think Adam Copland
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becomes the AWT and T champion at
Saturday's event and defeats Christian Cage in a
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notice qualification match. I kind of
want to put into a Nick Wayne's mom
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on a forkliff match. It's possible
the way that Tony Kah does stuff,
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So it is it's a really weird
fore and you and I have done this,
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been doing this show for a very
long time, and we always talk
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about like when best friends have a
feud, it's usually really really good because
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those guys trust each other implicitly and
we'll do just crazy stuff like the sam
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he's saying Kevin Owens Views, you
know, things like that, where you're
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like, these guys trust and love
each other so much that they'll just go
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crazy and balls out and it gets
really intense. And this one it feels
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like they're trying really really hard to
be intense, but it's coming out.
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Yeah, you're trying really hard.
I'm taking Adam Copeland as well, because
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this just reminds me of a w
booking in general, Like they'll get a
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big name in they'll shoot him to
the moon, and then like a month
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and a half in, it's like
Tony Kahn forgot about this trying new toy
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and it gets put back in the
box and it just has played with every
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so often. It's the same booking
they've had with Mirro with a drawing a
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even Brian Danielson to a point Adam
Cole like they they come in full of
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pomp and circumstance and then it end
up ends up signifying nothing for a while.
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So uh, I will say this
is a reminder Christian Kasha was in
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my list for a Performer of the
Year on the men's side when we did
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the Awrange show. So just he's
he's been great. I don't know,
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it just feels very It just feels
stagnant. Maybe because longtime wrestling fans like
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Doctor Trey and I have seen this, We've seen this play out. It
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just feels it feels forced. It
does it doesn't feel it doesn't feel like
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these guys. We all know these
guys are best friends and we want I
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think the thing is moose of us
want to see them together. That's why
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I was literally going to say that
I thought it would make better sense to
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lead the direction of Nick Wayne,
Shanna Wayne and Lucasaurus turning on him for
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Adam Copeland make to save them the
other way that this is going right now?
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Yeah, I agree, So I
love it. Next match here,
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Swerve Strickland versus Keith Lee. Strict. Swerve has been on a major breakout
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year in twenty twenty three. He's
been in the continental classes the last couple
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of months, six weeks or so. Keith Lee has been talking about him
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and chasing him over the last couple
of weeks. He identified him as Swerve
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Strickland. This is a reset,
a replay of what was a great tag
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team and then a pretty decent feud
post and now it's taking place again.
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This just feels like a match that, Hey, we want to get Swurve
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Strickland on the card. I love
the stuff they did with Keith Lee.
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There's a little bit of a storyline
here, so it makes a little bit
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of sense. So let's throw it
up there. Swarve Strickland, take it
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on. Kei Lee. Doctor Trey, who do you like in this one?
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Uh? Like, I'm confused.
I got this is hard for it
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says. It's like, it's weird
for me to pick because the Keith Lee
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stuff has been decent on the undercard
stuff, like you know, he's he's
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looking for him, and I'm like, by the way, I love that
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Carmelo chimed into Carmelo Hayes chimed in
on this as well. But it's like,
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Okay, you're kind of giving Keith
Lee a little bit of a push,
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but you're putting him now with Swerve. Who's the hottest guy in your
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company. I don't think you want
Keith Lee taking Swerve down. So maybe
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this leads to Keith Lee joining Swerve
at some point. I don't know.
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I'm taking Swerve because this is hard
to pick against him right now because he's
399
00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:45.640
so on fire. So I'll take
Swerve getting the win. I'm gonna take
400
00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:48.960
Swerve Strickland as well. The Keith
Lee booking has been kind of poor for
401
00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:52.640
a while now, so I'm I'm
a huge Keith Lee fan. I thought
402
00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:56.319
at one point like he was gonna
becoming w w weeed World of aweight champion
403
00:27:56.359 --> 00:28:00.039
type on this podcast back when he
was a w I think if he was
404
00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:04.319
in the w umbrella right now,
Triple H seemed to have affinity for him
405
00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:07.079
and liked his work, he may
be higher up on the car than he
406
00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:11.880
currently is. Maybe this is an
opportunity for him to reboot a little bit
407
00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:14.960
and get back in front of the
eyes of the resting fans a little bit
408
00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:18.839
more positively than having black hair one
week, having gray hair the next week.
409
00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:25.359
Tagging with Dustin Rhodes one week back
to solo and then taking on Shane
410
00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:29.240
Taylor at ROH Final Battle a week
later. Like, it's just been really
411
00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:32.799
weird booking for Keith Lee, who
I think deserves more. Hopefully this is
412
00:28:32.839 --> 00:28:36.319
a reset and a reboot for him. But I am taking Swerve strictling with
413
00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:38.920
a victor. I think Swerve is
going to have a epic twenty twenty four,
414
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:44.039
which we'll probably talk about a little
bit more on next week's regular edition
415
00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:48.400
of SRTU on January the fourth.
Next match here is Miro taking on Andrete
416
00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:51.640
l Edelo. Those obviously the backstory
here, Miro said to his wife C
417
00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:55.319
J. Perry, who, I
hope she's feeling better. She was in
418
00:28:55.319 --> 00:29:00.119
the hospital with a really nasty finger
infection. I don't know if she will
419
00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:03.720
be at the show on Saturday.
They are not promoting her from being there.
420
00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:07.720
But Miro said that he would not
touch Andredi l Ilo while he was
421
00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:11.680
performing the Continental Classic, and once
it was over, all bets are off
422
00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:15.240
and that's what leads to this match. Outside of just a couple of backstage
423
00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:18.680
vignettes and promos, there really has
been not much in ring bill for this
424
00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:22.440
one. I had a tough time
calling this, but I'm gonna go with
425
00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:27.039
Miro to take the victory of Doctor
Trey. This is good because I think
426
00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:30.039
we get to disagree on one.
I'm gonna take Andrade just because I thought
427
00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:33.839
Androti did really well in the Continental
Classic and it seems like they're kind of
428
00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:37.720
getting him on a roll a little
bit. I love that Miro says that
429
00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:41.400
the only reason he wants to fight
on drate because Andre is an a hole.
430
00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:45.759
It's not about it's not about his
wife. It's weird watching one guy
431
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:49.480
find another guy who his wife manages
that guy and that guy's wife in another
432
00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:52.319
company, but she's out of the
torn Aco right now, so that's just
433
00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:55.599
kind of weird for me. But
uh yeah, I'm gonna take on Dradik.
434
00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:59.000
I thought Andretti had a really really
solid run in the Continental Classic.
435
00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:02.319
He did, he had really good
run, and I hope for a bigger
436
00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:06.160
year for Androdi because I am a
fan of his work. Next match here
437
00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:11.359
is for the aw World Championship as
MJF defense against Samoa Joe. We will
438
00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:14.480
get Doctor Trey's thoughts here in just
a second and a prediction, but a
439
00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:18.200
little bit of a preview here Doctor
Trey. On Wednesday's Dynamite, it was
440
00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:22.279
revealed that Samoa Joe had struck a
deal with the Devil. The Devil's Henchmen
441
00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:26.480
are the new ROH Tag Team Champions
And depending on where you are and stand
442
00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:30.799
on the storyline, you either really
like what's going on, You're kind of
443
00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:33.160
mild to what's going on and you
like and dislike some stuff, or you
444
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:38.079
completely hate what it's going on with
this Old Devil storyline and the involvement of
445
00:30:38.119 --> 00:30:42.440
Samoa Joe and MJF in and out
of this entire thing. Let me start
446
00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:47.640
by saying that, and I rarely
get like this, but I am an
447
00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:52.720
old school wrestling fan. The ROH
Tag Team Championship was at one time considered
448
00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:57.960
one of the highest tag team titles
in all of professional wrestling. The fact
449
00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:02.920
that right now it's held by two
people whose identity we have no idea they
450
00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:07.359
are, and these Devil Henchmen is
not ideal. But it's also not ideal
451
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:11.519
that the title was on MJFF and
Adam Cole was being barely defended, wasn't
452
00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:15.480
on the ROH Final Battle a couple
of weeks a while ago as well.
453
00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:19.079
The Samo Joe Devil twist. I
kind of wish this played out a couple
454
00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:23.440
weeks beforehand. I know MGFF has
been hurt, but this has been a
455
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:29.440
mild feud from my standpoint. There's
meaning behind it, but it's been been
456
00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:32.160
kind of mild, and I think
a lot of that has to do with
457
00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:36.160
the injury then obviously playing up of
what's going on with the Devil's henchman as
458
00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:40.480
well. Doctor Trey, your thoughts
on this match, the storyline, and
459
00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:45.920
who you think walks out as aw
World Champion on Saturday Night. So I
460
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:49.759
think it helped this storyline a little
bit, like it kind of gave another
461
00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:52.680
twist to it. So it's like, Okay, well now I'm a little
462
00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:59.759
bit still interested in who this is. I don't hate, like I don't
463
00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:04.400
hate that two masked men who we
don't know are the tag team champions.
464
00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:07.160
That to me is a little bit
of a throwback to the old days when
465
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:09.880
you'd have like the mass Superstars and
things like that. I do hate what
466
00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:13.200
they've done with the ring aboutter tag
team titles, and a lot of that
467
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:15.240
was because of the injuries. So, you know, I don't mind that
468
00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:20.240
the Devil's rejects have the belt right
now. I just like that name better
469
00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:25.559
than the Hitchman. It's just it
did give a little bit of layers to
470
00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:28.519
this, because that was one of
things gonna plain about that was that they
471
00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:30.480
weren't really doing a whole lot with
the storyline, and now that they are,
472
00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:34.680
it's like, okay, well you're
giving a little bit to it,
473
00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:36.880
a little bit of substance to it
alone. And I think a lot of
474
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:38.359
it has to do with the Adam
colandery. I think it's gonna still come
475
00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:42.839
out that at this point. I
feel like it is almost gonna be certain
476
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:47.000
to be revealed that it is Adam
Cole, you know. So I guess
477
00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:51.960
I didn't hate it, but uh, it just adds more to me if
478
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:54.440
I go, Okay, well you're
gonna give the spin to it. But
479
00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:58.759
I just still don't think that samo
Joe's they got to take the belt off
480
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:02.799
MJF. So I'm taking MG after
retain. But maybe the kind of shot
481
00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:07.759
their watt a little bit too early
with even somehow with Joe being revealed as
482
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:10.400
striking a deal with the devil,
because now that shows to me that he
483
00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:15.599
knows who the devil is. So
that's one more persons who it is.
484
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:19.480
I guess. I guess essentially,
so you're taking MG after retain, right,
485
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:24.799
I guess essentially it It may but
you can still have an agreement with
486
00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:30.279
the devil without actually working with the
devil in the storyline. It's just weird
487
00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:34.079
saying this out loud. I know. But I to me though, like
488
00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:37.279
you don't make a deal less you
know who you're dealing with. That's logic.
489
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:42.400
Maybe maybe people tagged with Ray Mysterial
all the time and they may not
490
00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:45.200
know what he looks like under the
mask. Yeah, but you know,
491
00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:49.039
like you've got twenty years of Ray
experience, you kind of know what you're
492
00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:52.559
getting with, Like this is a
brand, you know. This is when
493
00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:54.519
when wrestling becomes real. It's like, look, if this is reality,
494
00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:59.759
I'm not striking, I hear you. But if you're going for a world
495
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:01.519
MPIP, you're making a deal with
the devil. I mean, do you
496
00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:06.200
really need to know who's under the
mask? I gotta know that you're gonna
497
00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:08.719
be carry your end of the bargain. I don't know, I don't know.
498
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:13.480
I understand where you're coming from,
but I still think that you know
499
00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:16.599
you don't need to know who the
actual devil is by playing this all out,
500
00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:20.920
I'm gonna take MJF as well,
and I guess while we've got this,
501
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:24.119
we've got a little bit of still
extra time here if we want again.
502
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:28.079
I had originally thought that the devil
was going to be revealed as Don
503
00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:34.639
Kallus and his family like Kenoski Takeshka, Will Hobbs, Kyle Fletcher, Sammy
504
00:34:34.679 --> 00:34:40.480
Cavara. It had been four people. The build of all those henchmen resembled
505
00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:46.360
the Don Kallis family build. I
also think at times, I think we
506
00:34:46.440 --> 00:34:52.000
figured maybe it's going to be Adam
Cole, Roger Strong, Matt Tavin,
507
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:55.320
and Mike Bennett. Maybe you've thrown
Kyle Riley, who is set to return
508
00:34:55.360 --> 00:35:00.280
as well. But none of those
wrestlers kind of fit the build that has
509
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:04.239
been out there, especially the very
muscular one, unless they add like Wardlow
510
00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:09.480
to it. Who could be you
know, that big bulky devil's henchman.
511
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:13.119
I also thought a point said it
was going to be sort of Strickland and
512
00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:16.320
the mobile Embassy because of the build
of the big muscular one, which would
513
00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:21.280
have been Brian Cage. Then you've
got the Gates of Agony in there as
514
00:35:21.320 --> 00:35:27.199
well, and Prince Nanah. I
don't I don't know the direction here.
515
00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:30.320
And then obviously as people have gone
back to thinking that maybe Jack Perry as
516
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:35.400
well, whether that's the way that
you reintroduce him to television, I don't
517
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:40.199
know who's it going to be.
I think they're running into a problem right
518
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:44.639
now that people are losing a little
bit of interest and maybe they want to
519
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:47.800
reveal it at aw Worlds N on
Saturday night, which that may be the
520
00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:53.079
plan, and the plan also needs
to be considered, like if it's not
521
00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:57.519
ran on Saturday, I think I
don't think it will. I think they'll
522
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:02.119
probably reveal it once MGF drops the
time, which Doctor Trey and I both
523
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:09.360
don't think will be Saturday. Will
the reaction meet our expectations? Like I
524
00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:16.639
think if it's not anybody outside of
Adam Cole, we are disappointed. This
525
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:22.960
could have the higher power type reaction
from we back in what ninety nine when
526
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:25.199
it was revealed as Vince, which
was a decent twist I liked at the
527
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:28.639
time at the time as a kid. But I think a lot of people
528
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:34.119
refer that storyline as being a little
bit underwhelming Where are you sitting on this
529
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:36.719
right now, Doctor Trey? Who
who do you think is behind the mask?
530
00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:38.159
I guess ultimately, I mean,
I guess you've kind of said that
531
00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:42.480
already with Adam Cole. Who do
you think is behind it? Who do
532
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:45.360
you think is revealed? Do you
think it happens on Saturday's pay per view?
533
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:49.440
I mean, I'll sorry, I
don't think it happens at the pay
534
00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:52.159
per view. I think you hang
on to a little longer event especial if
535
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:53.440
you're Gonn put the ring of Monter
tag belts on, you know, the
536
00:36:53.480 --> 00:36:58.079
two mask guys, and it just
it would feel kind of like, you
537
00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:00.760
know, everybody pulling their mask off
at work. They feel like a Scooby
538
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:06.039
Doo episode when it comes to like
who, I think to me, like
539
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:09.320
you have to look at it as
whoever this is has to become the biggest
540
00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:13.679
villain in your company, and so
you have to look at you who your
541
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:17.480
top people are. Like if they
were to reveal Sting as the devil,
542
00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:22.639
like right before you know, his
last match, his last match is him
543
00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:25.679
and m j F, Like that'd
be really cool, Like I'd be all
544
00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:30.119
about that, you know, just
Sting turned heel right before he leaves,
545
00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:34.719
you know. You know that's why
like I take I take Jack Perry out
546
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:37.039
of the mix, because I just
don't think you can put Jack Perry as
547
00:37:37.079 --> 00:37:40.079
being the face in the focal point
of your company. To me, it's
548
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:44.599
got to be an Adam Cole,
a swerve Stricklind, somebody that you've already
549
00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:49.599
either elevated or has already been a
main inventor, you know, and line
550
00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:52.719
that up that way. The swarve
thing be great because I just love to
551
00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:55.039
seeing not in a Devil's match behind
him just dancing away like that'd be funny
552
00:37:55.039 --> 00:38:00.440
as hell too. So maybe it's
stokely Hathaway and he's just say with how
553
00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:02.519
Ring of Honor has been booked for
the last six months and he's the devil.
554
00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:07.000
The firm comes back in, but
you have to present this. That's
555
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:10.719
why everybody hated the Vince gimmick was
because you had a chance to elevate somebody
556
00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:15.599
else and make them an instant main
eventor. And I guess you could do
557
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:19.960
that with Jack Perry. It's just
Jack Parry's one hundred and fifty five pounds.
558
00:38:20.079 --> 00:38:23.079
It's just how do you elevate somebody
who could get knocked over by a
559
00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:28.880
strong you know, Long Island breeze. That's why to me, it's got
560
00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:31.239
to be somebody you're either planning on
making a face or a focal point of
561
00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:35.239
your company, or somebody's already in
that spot. So that's why the Adam
562
00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:37.599
Cole thing makes sense to me.
It's why it swerve makes sense to me.
563
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:42.920
You know, like I just don't
see anybody else on the radar unless
564
00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:45.079
they're just waiting for another free I
mean, could it be a Dolph Sigler,
565
00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:49.679
you know, contracts coming up?
And maybe that's why everybody's better masks
566
00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:53.119
because they've been waiting for that moment
to reveal it to be Doll or somebody
567
00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:59.000
else. And I don't hate the
the mass muscle guys because back in the
568
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:01.559
aces an eighth days, you know
a lot of those mask guys were just
569
00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:05.719
guys they had on the show,
and then when they came out who everybody
570
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:08.559
was? Half the guys they use
under mask were not in the eighties and
571
00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:14.440
eighth groups. So talk about disappointing
reveals, Yes, So I mean there
572
00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:16.480
is, I mean, is it? I just worry about this is going
573
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:20.159
to go old school for a lot
of younger folks. I just hope it
574
00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:23.440
doesn't heard like a Black Scorpion type
thing where they're using one guy's voice and
575
00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:28.199
it gets revealed that it was you
know, Rick Flair. The entire time
576
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:32.039
that was a horrible, horrible angle
because they had somebody else in mind in
577
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:36.039
it the deal fell through. So
it's kind of the same thing here.
578
00:39:36.039 --> 00:39:38.079
It's like maybe they had somebody in
mind the injuries, say, the injuries
579
00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:42.039
that to Adam Cole through a wrench
of the whole plans. They tried to
580
00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:45.639
readjust and drag it out, and
hey, maybe it comes out Musafa,
581
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:50.440
you know, and we get retribution
two point zero you it'll be interesting.
582
00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:54.559
I do know that one of the
henchmen going to the ring last night for
583
00:39:54.719 --> 00:40:00.159
the Ring of Honor World Tag Team
title match against MJFF and Simojoe does have
584
00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:04.920
some sort of go tee because you
could see that in the mass there.
585
00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:08.960
So I don't know the whole thing
is. It's interesting. There's a lot
586
00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:13.960
lot lot writing on this for this
to be a successful storyline, and I
587
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:15.639
really feel like for me as a
wrestling fan, the way that it gets
588
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:20.480
best executed would be the reveal of
Adam Cole behind this all entire thing,
589
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:23.599
so we will see, we will
see how this plays out. AW World's
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00:40:23.679 --> 00:40:28.679
End comes to us again this Saturday
from the Nasau Veterans Memorial Coliseum in Uniondale,
591
00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:30.880
Long Island, New York. To
everybody tuning into the pay per review,
592
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:37.280
Enjoy the show, enjoy the weekend, stay tuned, stay tuned and
593
00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:40.239
everything. Maybe we do a special
bonus podcast next week to recap and review
594
00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:45.320
AW worldsen on its own. Maybe
we save it for the January eleventh edition
595
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:50.239
of SRTU. But once again,
next week's regular edition of the Still Realto
596
00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:53.599
Show will be on January the fourth. It's our twenty twenty four wrestling preview
597
00:40:53.840 --> 00:41:00.840
special. Enjoy the weekend, Enjoy
the New Year's Eve and Day holiday until
598
00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:05.239
next week or the next time we
get on here. Maybe do a bonus
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cas thank you for tuning in to
this special edition of sr TU. For
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doctor Trey Franklin. I'm Jeff Pack. This is mister Rotho show. Yeah,
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I mean it is. Sorry,
Samley just came in and decided to
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hit me with a bawl. We're
watching AW Talking Wrestling. I figure I
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think he just yes, I'm okay
here in Matthew if I was okay.
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He just hit me the poor an
object and then asked me if I was okay.
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It's still really to be damn.
Welcome everybody to this special bonus edition of
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the Cereal To Show for December twenty
ninth, twenty twenty three. It is
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our aw World's End preview and predictions. We're taking a break during our holiday
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break to come up here and I
don't know, do a couple of minutes
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and go through this Saturday's pay per
view, Doctor Troy. We usually take
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three straight weeks off. We pre
recorded the show from last week, the
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show yesterday, and the show next
week well in advance. But here we
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are thanks to Tony Kahan interjecting ourselves
with some timely wrestling content. Hello,
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my friends, so good to be
here, My friends. Sorry, I
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flashback to the pre show here.
I just it's a little weird to be
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jumping back in. I can tell
your enthusiasm level was not there. We
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didn't get the big hurrah O.
I try not to do the normal opening
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when it's the bonus edition. I
just like to try to get right into
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it because I feel like there's the
bonus edition is like here we are,
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this is us. But then usually
that our bonusis are was like sad news.
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That is true. It has been
that way as of late. It
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was the last time we did it
was the Bray White Show. We have
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interrupted our holiday programming schedule in the
past when Brody Lee passed away. A
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lot of remembrance for both those guys
over the last week with Brody Lee's passing.
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Now, what was that three years
ago? Yeah, I mean it's
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just it's just wild. I mean, at least this time, it's it's
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like happiness that we're interjecting ourselves with
because we've got a pay per view.
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I don't know how I feel about
a pay per view during the holiday like
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this, but I know that this
was a common thing. I remember I
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grew up in starkad would be taking
place like this upcoming weekend. Yeah,
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and then you know we got all
these now, like ww's kind of taking
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a page from Adew's book with having
these branded themed raws and smackdowns as well
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as I like that. I really
liked that, by the way. Uh,
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I like that Day one in New
Year's Revolution is back in the rotation.
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I think it's a smart thing to
do because they're going to be battling.
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This is your wheelhouse, Doctor Trey, not so much mine, But
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they're gonna be battling college football all
next week. So does this mean like
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this is like ww's answer to bowl
season. I think, I think in
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a way right, like because Monday
night, uh what the second game,
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the second semi final game, I
think kicks off at eight. I think
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Rose Bowl is at five thirty,
So I mean I'll be watching Raw,
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most likely live or delayed. But
I would imagine well, for you,
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right the the sans Alabama fan Michigan
and Alabama will be probably done by the
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start of Raw. I'm hoping so
because that's that's that's a hard that's a
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hard choice because it's a weird by
the way, this side note, this
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is a weird game for me because
I like Jim Harbaugh X forty nine Ers
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coach and I like Alabama, so
I don't know who to root for that
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one. So yeah, yeah,
yeah, no, it's it's strange.
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I know Monday Night's gonna be battle
for them, and then I don't think
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the National Championship game is until about
a week later, So I mean,
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definitely the day one edition of Raw
is going to be quite the battle and
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taking on the semi finals, and
then people like doing New Year's type stuff
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like I don't know about you,
doctor Trey, but usually like my family
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or my in laws, like we
have dinner together and then the holidays are
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officially closed and I'm back to my
normal work and grind. The next day
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on the second, January second,
is like one of the hardest days of
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the year. I think it's like
she, I think it's it's got to
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be one of the hardest. Now
I'm trying to have I'm trying to think,
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like what other day would my mind
not want to be doing anything,
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because I don't know. Doctor Trey
and I were just talking, like we're
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both intermittently working right now, doctor
Trey more than I am, because like
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my job is very quiet, Doctor
Trey is out and about, so I
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guess it's a little bit easier.
But like December fifteenth hits for me and
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I'm like tuned out, Like it's
very rare that I get an opportunity to
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take a break from the personal work, podcasting, hobbies, life that I
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have outside of this spectrum of SRTU. So I always take like these two
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and a half three weeks and just
kind of reset a little bit, and
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then when January second rolls around for
me, it's like son of uh bitch.
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Yeah, like the company I'm with
now, it's a little weird.
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For like last year when I was
running the live events team, like there's
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there's no events in December because it's
too cold to actually be out there and
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running a fair or a festival or
what is too cold in Alabama? Uh
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thirty five forty okay, people,
that is cold. That is cold.
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That's that is cold. Like our
highest week like today's forty seven. So
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like for Alabama, it's pretty cold. But like you know, if you're
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running events, they usually start like
seven o'clock, eight o'clock in the morning,
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and those are it's still thirty three
thirty forty freez. We don't people
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don't like getting out that early.
So with now moving over to the retail
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side, it's still slow ish because
it's these are in home improvement stores,
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so it's still slow ish. But
I didn't know my company had unlimited PTO
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and I'm like, shit, I
could just taken these entire two weeks off
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and nobody was said a word to
me about it. But I feel guilty
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about doing stuff like that, so
I'm just like, no, I'll keep
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working. But it is weird,
like I'm literally like trying to do a
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schedule for the people that work under
me, and I'm like, we can't
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be in the store on Sunday,
we can't be in the store on Monday,
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and the company doesn't really want us
in the stores on Tuesdays. So
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we're only back in the store Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, back
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out again on Sunday and Monday,
and then light schedule on Tuesday. I'm
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like, why are we even doing
anything? Can we just shut it down?
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But oh, by the way,
I was seeing this, why like
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thinking about bull season and wrestling.
I know, I'm kind of squirreling around
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here and jumping around a bit,
but this popped in my head when you're
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talking about like why hat, since
we're doing these branded events like like Day
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one Revolution, why don't they look
for sponsorship? Because I would love to
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see Manscape or Manscaper Presents Monday Night
Raw grape Balls of Fire. I would
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have me, well, duh,
yeah, I would love to see that,
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or bring it back, Tostitos SmackDown. You know, it's just what
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it just like little things like that
like that would be a way for them
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to make a little bit more revenue, like, I don't see why they
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haven't tapped into those like college football
has done for the better part of the
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last thirty years. Hey, listen, we're talking to Nick con right now,
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so might as well let mean throw
it out there. Hello, Yeah,
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let's do it. Nick co On, please hop on in there and
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take advantage of the grape Balls of
Fire returned by Presented by Manscape. One
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of my favorite January and I think
they only did this once and I've definitely
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talked about this on the podcast somewhere
in my wrestling fan library of vhs and
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DVD which, by the way,
rip WE DVDs. WWE Home Video closes
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like this week. It's it's done. On December thirty. First, they
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just ran their final DVD, which
is a survivor series, War Games,
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and I don't think that is gonna
be talked enough about, probably the only
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time this will be mentioned this podcast
that like w W Home Video is closing,
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which has been around forever. Coliseum
home Video at one point they were
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doing all their stuff, but one
of my favorite branded special football type events
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they ever did was the Raw Bowl. Do you do you remember that?
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Doctrin? Basically essentially it was a
fatal four way elimination fatal four way tag
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team match. It was like Breton
Yoko, the Smoking Guns one two three
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kid in Psycho Sid and I think
Razormon and Savio Vega. I almost am
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positive I just nailed that. I
think you did because as your mentioning,
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IM like, I know Savio Vega
was in there, like I was remembering,
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I was like, oh yeah.
And then I think, didn't they
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even have like like those little like
craft jersey type they think they did?
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Yes? Yeah, see how you
do remember that? See? My favorite
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thing was always the when they would
do the halftimee shows where we got Rock
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and Magki and in the Efty Arena
match was yes, yes. And I
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actually think the Raw Bull episode there
was a halftime show and I've had something
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to do with like gold Dust I
remember, oh yeah yeah. So but
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I always love when they would do
the football tie is because I mean half
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I would think probably eighty percent of
the wrestling roster were formal like high school
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football players. You know, most
of those guys were big kids growing up.
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Anyway, I'm talking about you know, the eighties and nineties wrestlers,
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not the guys today that are one
hundred and seventy five pounds. But you
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know a lot of those guys played
football, so it's kind of like a
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way that's kind of harkened back.
I mean, you got guys like Hacksaw
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Jim Duggan and you know guy you
know, Wahoo McDaniel, and you know,
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all the way through Goldber, guys
who actually played in the NFL and
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stuff like that. Like those guys, you know, you threw up a
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wrestling thing, you know, paper
or event and people got fired up.
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Plus those were always in response to
how great the Bug Bowls and the Puppy
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Bowls were also back in the nineties. Yes, yeah, so go out
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of your way. I'm sure it's
up on YouTube. Check out Raw Bull.
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Uh. But yeah, next week
is a big week. We certainly
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are not going to be in the
next week's edition the podcast because it's already
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been pre recorded. It's our wrestling
preview special, which actually goes toe to
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toe with w w we's Previews special. That's Aaron on Peacock. So yeah,
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let's go hut at wa. But
yeah, in about two weeks we'll
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get back to our normal regular schedule
programming for SRTU. That falls on December
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eleventh, excuse me, January eleventh, and it's possible, I don't know.
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Maybe Doctor Trey and I will hop
on here next week and we'll do
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a recap as well. If not, we'll certainly cover World's end recap on
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the January eleventh edition. So just
stay tuned, continue to download US where
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you get US iTunes, Spotify,
what have you, and keep an eye
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on the social media content feeds and
Facebook pages and see when this podcast comes
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up. So we debated actually doing
this, decided that we were going to
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do something here for a little bit
at least get another one in there for
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the end of the year and get
you ready for Saturday's aw Worlds and pay
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per view, which comes to us
from the Nasau Veterans More Coliseum in Uniondale,
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Long Island, New York. I
love when we it's like the only
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part of the United States that we
treat like it's a providence in Canada where
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they're like Montreal, Quebec, Canada. Like only in Long Island, Are
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you like Uniondale, Long Island,
New York, Because people like, oh
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I thought it was a Long Island. It is, but Uniondale is the
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town in Long Island, so it's
like, Okay, Canada, Long Island.
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Yeah, it's all the same at
the end of the day. So
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let's get to it here, Doctor
Turr. As of right now, they
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have announced as we record this one, two, three, four, five,
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six, seven, eight, nine, ten matches. I expect some
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to be added. One match on
here that I don't see right now that
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I expect to be added as FTR
taking on Buddy Matthews and Aliser Black or
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Malachi Black at the paper view.
I would imagine that takes place. But
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they only have one show really to
announce these matches, whether it's online or
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on Rampage on Friday night, No
Collision on Saturday, The Collision Cowboys Stay
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Home in lieu of World End taking
place on Saturday night live in Long Island.
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So the first match here, Doctor
Trey is a twenty man Battle Royal
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for a future AWT and T Championship
matches. You and I record this.
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They haven't announced a soul that is
going to participate in this match, so
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we have no ideas. So the
way that I went about this is I
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looked at the Continental Classic. I
looked at the card, and I was
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like, Okay, who performed well
in the Continental Classic and is not performing
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in the pay per view. A
couple of big names, Brodie Lee and
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Andreddai Alito is in the pay per
view later on Claudium Cassick No Lee is
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not. So when I looked at
the standings, I was like, Ah,
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this person who performed on Wednesday night
in a phenomenal triple threat match with
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Swarve Strickland and John Moxley. I'm
gonna go with Jay White to win this
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battle Royal Doctor Trey, I'm thinking
I honestly, so let's see, I
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went Continental Classic like like, that's
kind of I feel like those are the
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favorites of Tony con right now.
So is Christian and Adam Copland on the
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card for the match they are They're
in a no DQ match, okay,
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for the TNT Championship. So if
I go there, yeah, you know
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what, I typically try to go
way off the radar with us, but
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you know, I think I think
I'll take Claudio to get the win.
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All right, If that makes sense, Yeah, let's do it. Claudia
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Lucassignoli is doctor Trace pitt Pick.
I'm gonna go with Jay White next match.
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Here is on the pre show,
Hook defends the FTW Championship against Wheelery
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Utah in an FTW rules match.
No idea what that means, but it's
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an FTW rules match, so I
mean FTW. I mean I know what
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that stood for, so I don't
know if that means the rules are.
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Like if we if we get the
no rope match like we saw on an
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XT the other night, I'm going
to take hook uh in the just because
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I can't see Wheeler Year running around. Although that would bring back the oh,
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the guy that Claudia fought, the
Bloodsport guy. Oh, Josh Barnett,
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Josh Barnett. Yeah, it's gonna
say Josh Briggs. I'm like,
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that's the wrong Josh b You could
do the blood Sport rules. If you
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have the FTW title, do all
your matches under those kind of rules.
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I still think I'll take Hook.
I'll take Hook. There we go.
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I'm gonna take Hook as well.
He's the hometown guy, so I'm gonna
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take Hook to win the match.
Next match, here's the Championship final for
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the AW Continental Classic for the inaugural
Triple Crown Championship of the ROH World Championship,
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New Japan's Strong open weight Championship and
the inaugural ae W Continental Championship.
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We have no idea what that title
looks like yet. Eddie Kinkson takes on
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John Moxley, the winner of both
the Gold League and Blue League finals.
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The booking of Eddie Kinkson has been
a lot of fun in this He started
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down OH two, worked his way
back up, became an underdog, finally
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defeated Brian Danielson on Wednesday Night's edition
of AW Dynamite. I'm really looking forward
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to this one ton of momentum on
Eddie Kinkson's side. I think they did
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this tournament. He put up his
They mentioned multiple times his life work of
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roa trold title on the New Japan
Strong open Weight Championship to be in this
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tournament, and therefore, I think
that this tournament is the opportunity to springboard
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Eddie Kinkson some more. I'm going
to take Eddie Kinkson to win this match,
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and I just want to give a
little tip of the cap to AW.
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The Continental Classic tournament was a ton
of fun to watch, really fun
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matches, great stuff. It is
what has carried AAW since Full Gear to
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now and it's literally just been this
tournament to me, that has truly carried
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aw looking forward to this in hopeful
year's future. Eddie Kinkson has my choice
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to win this match, Doctor Trey. Yeah, I think Eddie kings is
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my choice as well, and a
lot of it is because of the Moxley
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booking. Like you, swar Strickland
obviously probably the hottest star on the roster,
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does not get the win because it's
like, Okay, you got something
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else planned first, Sword's than this. Then you have Moxley go over to
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have Kingston beat Moxley, and those
guys are like best friends in real life,
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so I don't think Moxie is might
losing to Eddie Kingson to help elevate
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his friend. So I'll take Eddie
Kingston as well. Next match, Year's
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Julia Hart to fend the AWTBS Championship
against Abadon, Doctor Tree, Who do
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you like in this one? Man? This was tough because I really like
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Abadon, She's a really fun character. But I'm gonna take Julia Hart using
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her black magic against the Abaddon zombie
magic and maybe a little sistant from sky
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Blues Blue Magic to overcome Abudon's zombie
magic. Yes, Okay, Wow,
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and they were in Orlando on Wednesday
night, the home of the Orlando Magic.
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Ironically enough, I'm gonna take Julia
Hart to retain the AWTBS Championship as
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well. This feud has been decent. I'm happy for Abdon to get into
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a little bit more TV time.
She was a really fun character, like
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in twenty twenty, twenty twenty one. I know she'd I think she'd battled
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some injuries and have been away for
a while off of AW television. So
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it's cool to see her in the
spot and it's a nice, nice little
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AWTBS Championship feud. Next match is
Timeless Tony Storm defend the AW Women's World
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Championship against Riho. I'm going to
take Timeless Tony Storm to win and retain.
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And I just have a feeling doctor
Trey that Jamie Hayter or a doctor
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Burt Baker maybe returning at Saturday's AW
World's End event. Yeah, there about
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due. I'm taking Timeless Tony Storm
as well. Like I like Rio,
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but I mean from where she was
at when the show first launched a few
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years ago to where she is now, Like, I mean, she's not
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even a top Japanese superstar in Order's
division. I think you could at Tashida,
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So like for me, it is
kind of just a you know,
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we're adding days to Tony's run type
match, so I'll take Tony Storm as
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well. Yeah, I mean Rio
got derailed a lot by the pandemic and
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then just very intermittently she's involved in
the pro in the promotion. I don't
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even really know if she's technically a
full time wrestler for them at this point
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based on how things are. But
you really forget that Rijo was the first
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AW women's World champion. It's it's
kind of absurd in a way, but
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the women's division in AW can be
a podcast in itself. Next match here
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is Ricky Stark's Big Bill, Kyle
Fletcher and Powerhouse Ops taken on Christ Jericho,
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Samy Gevara, Sting and Darby Allen
in a eight man tag team match.
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Obviously, this is a match that
is taking place because of the dive
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tiiculitis with Kenny Omega, which could
have resulted in death based on some things
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that are being reported out there right
now. The Chris Jericho Samy gevar reunion
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is a quick creative response to that, so I assume they don't think Kenny
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Omego will be back anytime soon.
We'll get Doctor Trey's thoughts on this in
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just a second, but I felt
like at one point Doctor Trey sidebaring this
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all that Don Catallus was going to
be revealed as the devil and that Powerhouse
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ops Kyle Fletcher Powerhouse Kence Kenoski to
Keshka and Samy, We're gonna be the
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Devil's henchman. That may be all
out the window because Sammy is reunited with
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Chris Jericho, but here we are. I mean, this is kind of
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in response to the Kenny Omega stuff. And this also gets Stinging Darby Allen
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on the card as well. In
an eight man tag team match. Who
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do you like in this one?
And I guess give your thoughts on the
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Jericho Samy Gevar reunion. So I'm
gonna take the Sting Darby Allen Jericho Gavar
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team because Sting doesn't lose him lose
like two months before his retirement match in
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a random eight man tag So you
have Sting and Sting in Jericho on the
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same team as well. It is
pretty pretty cool. So I'll take those
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guys in the win, and it's
just kind of such a knee jerk booking
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response. It is literally like this
may be like I give credit to WB
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for having the worst baby face turn
of all time when Al bernadel Rio turned
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baby face because of the spansion now
table Sammy Goavarz hearned baby face because of
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a baby So that's literally like the
ultimate reason to turn babyface. So it's
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just one of those things where just
like it sucks that you know, Kitty
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got you know, diverticul lies because
we all know the brock Lesnar story and
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how much that mess brought up.
It's just it is kind of a shame
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that you don't have somebody in place
to kind of want to elevate into a
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good babyface role other than flipping Sammy
Gavara against Samy gavar Is quickly becoming the
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big show of AW. I was
literally thinking the same thing. It's like
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the more kids like been baby facing, heel like I think already a dozen
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times in five years of AW,
so it's just hard to kind of keep
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up. And it's like, Okay, we turned a baby face because Don
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Challis put his baby in a painting, Like, does that make Don callus
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the villain from Ghostbusters too, or
you just you don't do the match for
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a while. Yeah, I guess
it does in a way. He is
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the villain from Ghostbusters too. But
yeah, I'm gonna take Jericho, Sammy
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Sting and Darby Allen as well.
But creatively, in this entire thing,
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I think this is a big problem
I have with AW creative is that the
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follow through. I get it.
I understand their hands are tied. The
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belief is that probably Kenny's going to
be out for a while. But say
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Kenny does make a miraculous return and
he's back a month from now, and
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then it leads to Sammy turning on
Chris Jericho again. That wouldn't shock me
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at all. It actually wouldn't shock
me if Sammy turns on Jericho this Saturday.
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AW World's end. There's just so
many like you just had FTR make
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the save for Daniel Garcia and oh
God Millard their magic Daddy Magic Millard there
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from the former JAS like pair.
Daniel Garcia up with Jericho, got a
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great hand. Yeah do that,
I mean dip into the stuff like Jay
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Haeger makes a ton of sense.
They can go off on the story about
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how Hagar basically saved Jericho's life overseas
several years ago when they were both in
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Wue like they have in the past. I just felt like there were so
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many different ways to go about this
and then go in the Sammyovar well again,
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it was just really strange because they
had the big turn at I believe
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Grand Slam where he turned on Jericho
and then he either got concussed I think
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he got concuss at Wrestled Dream and
then we hadn't seen him because he was
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concussed and then had the maternity leave
by having a baby with he and his
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wife te Mellow Time Mello. It's
like, what like this just I don't
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know, very poorly executed in just
a lack of different options that could have
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made sense. Is he the worst
of the four pillars right now? Based
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on the booking. Based on the
booking, I would still put Jungle Boy
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Jack Perry. I'm I don't.
I mean this again could be a podcast
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in itself, I mean all three
of the four And I'm a RB Allen
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fan. I like Sam mcvaris in
ring work. I think we all know
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how I feel about Jungle Boy Jack
Perry. Like Jack Perry was as a
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character over the heel turn of the
summer was starting to take a turn in
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like this swarming villain that was you
wanted to punch in the face. But
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like, and I know they could
still kick my ass, but visually,
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three out of the four don't look
like they could kick my ass, like
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it could be in a decently even
fight. And I've just never been I
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know that's a very old school approach, but I just have never felt that
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those guys are are truly the four
pillars of the company. I I throw
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Orange in as the fifth pillar then, and I'm like, yeah, even
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Orange, I don't think I could. I think most people could think they
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could take orangin to fight as well. Yeah I would. I would say
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guys like Moxley, Jericho, Omega, maybe like the Bucks or like the
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true pillars of that company. But
whatever it is, what it is.
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Enough of that next match here has
been is Christian Cage defending the AWT and
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T Championship in any Notice qualification match
against Adam Copeland. This has been kind
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of a mild feud. I don't
know where kill Switch Lucasaurus is. I
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don't know if he's hurt or I
don't believe he was written off of television.
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I think he may be hurt,
but there's been like zero explanation.
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They changed his name, he wrestled
on Collision and then disappeared, and then
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nothing has come out of this.
Cage defeated Copeland when Nick Wayne's mom interfered,
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her acting is like up there with
some of the worst I've seen Judy
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Bagwell, yeah, but she has
like the potential to be Vicky Guerrero bad
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or good as well, Like you
don't know where that's going to go.
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But nonetheless, I don't know.
The Adam Copeland booking of AW has been
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peculiar at best. I feel like
a ton of momentum and hype and popularity
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and excitement and then it's been kind
of mild so far. I don't I
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don't know. That's always been the
trend with with a lot of the debuts
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in AW for some reason. With
that said, I do think Adam Copland
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becomes the AWT and T champion at
Saturday's event and defeats Christian Cage in a
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notice qualification match. I kind of
want to put into a Nick Wayne's mom
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on a forkliff match. It's possible
the way that Tony Kah does stuff,
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So it is it's a really weird
fore and you and I have done this,
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been doing this show for a very
long time, and we always talk
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about like when best friends have a
feud, it's usually really really good because
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those guys trust each other implicitly and
we'll do just crazy stuff like the sam
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he's saying Kevin Owens Views, you
know, things like that, where you're
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like, these guys trust and love
each other so much that they'll just go
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crazy and balls out and it gets
really intense. And this one it feels
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like they're trying really really hard to
be intense, but it's coming out.
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Yeah, you're trying really hard.
I'm taking Adam Copeland as well, because
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this just reminds me of a w
booking in general, Like they'll get a
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big name in they'll shoot him to
the moon, and then like a month
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and a half in, it's like
Tony Kahn forgot about this trying new toy
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and it gets put back in the
box and it just has played with every
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so often. It's the same booking
they've had with Mirro with a drawing a
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even Brian Danielson to a point Adam
Cole like they they come in full of
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pomp and circumstance and then it end
up ends up signifying nothing for a while.
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So uh, I will say this
is a reminder Christian Kasha was in
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my list for a Performer of the
Year on the men's side when we did
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the Awrange show. So just he's
he's been great. I don't know,
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it just feels very It just feels
stagnant. Maybe because longtime wrestling fans like
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Doctor Trey and I have seen this, We've seen this play out. It
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just feels it feels forced. It
does it doesn't feel it doesn't feel like
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these guys. We all know these
guys are best friends and we want I
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think the thing is moose of us
want to see them together. That's why
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I was literally going to say that
I thought it would make better sense to
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lead the direction of Nick Wayne,
Shanna Wayne and Lucasaurus turning on him for
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Adam Copeland make to save them the
other way that this is going right now?
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Yeah, I agree, So I
love it. Next match here,
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Swerve Strickland versus Keith Lee. Strict. Swerve has been on a major breakout
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year in twenty twenty three. He's
been in the continental classes the last couple
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of months, six weeks or so. Keith Lee has been talking about him
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and chasing him over the last couple
of weeks. He identified him as Swerve
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Strickland. This is a reset,
a replay of what was a great tag
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team and then a pretty decent feud
post and now it's taking place again.
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This just feels like a match that, Hey, we want to get Swurve
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Strickland on the card. I love
the stuff they did with Keith Lee.
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There's a little bit of a storyline
here, so it makes a little bit
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of sense. So let's throw it
up there. Swarve Strickland, take it
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on. Kei Lee. Doctor Trey, who do you like in this one?
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Uh? Like, I'm confused.
I got this is hard for it
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says. It's like, it's weird
for me to pick because the Keith Lee
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stuff has been decent on the undercard
stuff, like you know, he's he's
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looking for him, and I'm like, by the way, I love that
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Carmelo chimed into Carmelo Hayes chimed in
on this as well. But it's like,
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Okay, you're kind of giving Keith
Lee a little bit of a push,
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00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:29.839
but you're putting him now with Swerve. Who's the hottest guy in your
396
00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:33.279
company. I don't think you want
Keith Lee taking Swerve down. So maybe
397
00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:37.759
this leads to Keith Lee joining Swerve
at some point. I don't know.
398
00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:41.720
I'm taking Swerve because this is hard
to pick against him right now because he's
399
00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:45.640
so on fire. So I'll take
Swerve getting the win. I'm gonna take
400
00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:48.960
Swerve Strickland as well. The Keith
Lee booking has been kind of poor for
401
00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:52.640
a while now, so I'm I'm
a huge Keith Lee fan. I thought
402
00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:56.319
at one point like he was gonna
becoming w w weeed World of aweight champion
403
00:27:56.359 --> 00:28:00.039
type on this podcast back when he
was a w I think if he was
404
00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:04.319
in the w umbrella right now,
Triple H seemed to have affinity for him
405
00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:07.079
and liked his work, he may
be higher up on the car than he
406
00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:11.880
currently is. Maybe this is an
opportunity for him to reboot a little bit
407
00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:14.960
and get back in front of the
eyes of the resting fans a little bit
408
00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:18.839
more positively than having black hair one
week, having gray hair the next week.
409
00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:25.359
Tagging with Dustin Rhodes one week back
to solo and then taking on Shane
410
00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:29.240
Taylor at ROH Final Battle a week
later. Like, it's just been really
411
00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:32.799
weird booking for Keith Lee, who
I think deserves more. Hopefully this is
412
00:28:32.839 --> 00:28:36.319
a reset and a reboot for him. But I am taking Swerve strictling with
413
00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:38.920
a victor. I think Swerve is
going to have a epic twenty twenty four,
414
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:44.039
which we'll probably talk about a little
bit more on next week's regular edition
415
00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:48.400
of SRTU on January the fourth.
Next match here is Miro taking on Andrete
416
00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:51.640
l Edelo. Those obviously the backstory
here, Miro said to his wife C
417
00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:55.319
J. Perry, who, I
hope she's feeling better. She was in
418
00:28:55.319 --> 00:29:00.119
the hospital with a really nasty finger
infection. I don't know if she will
419
00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:03.720
be at the show on Saturday.
They are not promoting her from being there.
420
00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:07.720
But Miro said that he would not
touch Andredi l Ilo while he was
421
00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:11.680
performing the Continental Classic, and once
it was over, all bets are off
422
00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:15.240
and that's what leads to this match. Outside of just a couple of backstage
423
00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:18.680
vignettes and promos, there really has
been not much in ring bill for this
424
00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:22.440
one. I had a tough time
calling this, but I'm gonna go with
425
00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:27.039
Miro to take the victory of Doctor
Trey. This is good because I think
426
00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:30.039
we get to disagree on one.
I'm gonna take Andrade just because I thought
427
00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:33.839
Androti did really well in the Continental
Classic and it seems like they're kind of
428
00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:37.720
getting him on a roll a little
bit. I love that Miro says that
429
00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:41.400
the only reason he wants to fight
on drate because Andre is an a hole.
430
00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:45.759
It's not about it's not about his
wife. It's weird watching one guy
431
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:49.480
find another guy who his wife manages
that guy and that guy's wife in another
432
00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:52.319
company, but she's out of the
torn Aco right now, so that's just
433
00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:55.599
kind of weird for me. But
uh yeah, I'm gonna take on Dradik.
434
00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:59.000
I thought Andretti had a really really
solid run in the Continental Classic.
435
00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:02.319
He did, he had really good
run, and I hope for a bigger
436
00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:06.160
year for Androdi because I am a
fan of his work. Next match here
437
00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:11.359
is for the aw World Championship as
MJF defense against Samoa Joe. We will
438
00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:14.480
get Doctor Trey's thoughts here in just
a second and a prediction, but a
439
00:30:14.519 --> 00:30:18.200
little bit of a preview here Doctor
Trey. On Wednesday's Dynamite, it was
440
00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:22.279
revealed that Samoa Joe had struck a
deal with the Devil. The Devil's Henchmen
441
00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:26.480
are the new ROH Tag Team Champions
And depending on where you are and stand
442
00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:30.799
on the storyline, you either really
like what's going on, You're kind of
443
00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:33.160
mild to what's going on and you
like and dislike some stuff, or you
444
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:38.079
completely hate what it's going on with
this Old Devil storyline and the involvement of
445
00:30:38.119 --> 00:30:42.440
Samoa Joe and MJF in and out
of this entire thing. Let me start
446
00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:47.640
by saying that, and I rarely
get like this, but I am an
447
00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:52.720
old school wrestling fan. The ROH
Tag Team Championship was at one time considered
448
00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:57.960
one of the highest tag team titles
in all of professional wrestling. The fact
449
00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:02.920
that right now it's held by two
people whose identity we have no idea they
450
00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:07.359
are, and these Devil Henchmen is
not ideal. But it's also not ideal
451
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:11.519
that the title was on MJFF and
Adam Cole was being barely defended, wasn't
452
00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:15.480
on the ROH Final Battle a couple
of weeks a while ago as well.
453
00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:19.079
The Samo Joe Devil twist. I
kind of wish this played out a couple
454
00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:23.440
weeks beforehand. I know MGFF has
been hurt, but this has been a
455
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:29.440
mild feud from my standpoint. There's
meaning behind it, but it's been been
456
00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:32.160
kind of mild, and I think
a lot of that has to do with
457
00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:36.160
the injury then obviously playing up of
what's going on with the Devil's henchman as
458
00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:40.480
well. Doctor Trey, your thoughts
on this match, the storyline, and
459
00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:45.920
who you think walks out as aw
World Champion on Saturday Night. So I
460
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:49.759
think it helped this storyline a little
bit, like it kind of gave another
461
00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:52.680
twist to it. So it's like, Okay, well now I'm a little
462
00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:59.759
bit still interested in who this is. I don't hate, like I don't
463
00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:04.400
hate that two masked men who we
don't know are the tag team champions.
464
00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:07.160
That to me is a little bit
of a throwback to the old days when
465
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:09.880
you'd have like the mass Superstars and
things like that. I do hate what
466
00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:13.200
they've done with the ring aboutter tag
team titles, and a lot of that
467
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:15.240
was because of the injuries. So, you know, I don't mind that
468
00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:20.240
the Devil's rejects have the belt right
now. I just like that name better
469
00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:25.559
than the Hitchman. It's just it
did give a little bit of layers to
470
00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:28.519
this, because that was one of
things gonna plain about that was that they
471
00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:30.480
weren't really doing a whole lot with
the storyline, and now that they are,
472
00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:34.680
it's like, okay, well you're
giving a little bit to it,
473
00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:36.880
a little bit of substance to it
alone. And I think a lot of
474
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:38.359
it has to do with the Adam
colandery. I think it's gonna still come
475
00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:42.839
out that at this point. I
feel like it is almost gonna be certain
476
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:47.000
to be revealed that it is Adam
Cole, you know. So I guess
477
00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:51.960
I didn't hate it, but uh, it just adds more to me if
478
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:54.440
I go, Okay, well you're
gonna give the spin to it. But
479
00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:58.759
I just still don't think that samo
Joe's they got to take the belt off
480
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:02.799
MJF. So I'm taking MG after
retain. But maybe the kind of shot
481
00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:07.759
their watt a little bit too early
with even somehow with Joe being revealed as
482
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:10.400
striking a deal with the devil,
because now that shows to me that he
483
00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:15.599
knows who the devil is. So
that's one more persons who it is.
484
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:19.480
I guess. I guess essentially,
so you're taking MG after retain, right,
485
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:24.799
I guess essentially it It may but
you can still have an agreement with
486
00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:30.279
the devil without actually working with the
devil in the storyline. It's just weird
487
00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:34.079
saying this out loud. I know. But I to me though, like
488
00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:37.279
you don't make a deal less you
know who you're dealing with. That's logic.
489
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:42.400
Maybe maybe people tagged with Ray Mysterial
all the time and they may not
490
00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:45.200
know what he looks like under the
mask. Yeah, but you know,
491
00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:49.039
like you've got twenty years of Ray
experience, you kind of know what you're
492
00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:52.559
getting with, Like this is a
brand, you know. This is when
493
00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:54.519
when wrestling becomes real. It's like, look, if this is reality,
494
00:33:54.759 --> 00:33:59.759
I'm not striking, I hear you. But if you're going for a world
495
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:01.519
MPIP, you're making a deal with
the devil. I mean, do you
496
00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:06.200
really need to know who's under the
mask? I gotta know that you're gonna
497
00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:08.719
be carry your end of the bargain. I don't know, I don't know.
498
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:13.480
I understand where you're coming from,
but I still think that you know
499
00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:16.599
you don't need to know who the
actual devil is by playing this all out,
500
00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:20.920
I'm gonna take MJF as well,
and I guess while we've got this,
501
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:24.119
we've got a little bit of still
extra time here if we want again.
502
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:28.079
I had originally thought that the devil
was going to be revealed as Don
503
00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:34.639
Kallus and his family like Kenoski Takeshka, Will Hobbs, Kyle Fletcher, Sammy
504
00:34:34.679 --> 00:34:40.480
Cavara. It had been four people. The build of all those henchmen resembled
505
00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:46.360
the Don Kallis family build. I
also think at times, I think we
506
00:34:46.440 --> 00:34:52.000
figured maybe it's going to be Adam
Cole, Roger Strong, Matt Tavin,
507
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:55.320
and Mike Bennett. Maybe you've thrown
Kyle Riley, who is set to return
508
00:34:55.360 --> 00:35:00.280
as well. But none of those
wrestlers kind of fit the build that has
509
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:04.239
been out there, especially the very
muscular one, unless they add like Wardlow
510
00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:09.480
to it. Who could be you
know, that big bulky devil's henchman.
511
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:13.119
I also thought a point said it
was going to be sort of Strickland and
512
00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:16.320
the mobile Embassy because of the build
of the big muscular one, which would
513
00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:21.280
have been Brian Cage. Then you've
got the Gates of Agony in there as
514
00:35:21.320 --> 00:35:27.199
well, and Prince Nanah. I
don't I don't know the direction here.
515
00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:30.320
And then obviously as people have gone
back to thinking that maybe Jack Perry as
516
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:35.400
well, whether that's the way that
you reintroduce him to television, I don't
517
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:40.199
know who's it going to be.
I think they're running into a problem right
518
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:44.639
now that people are losing a little
bit of interest and maybe they want to
519
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:47.800
reveal it at aw Worlds N on
Saturday night, which that may be the
520
00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:53.079
plan, and the plan also needs
to be considered, like if it's not
521
00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:57.519
ran on Saturday, I think I
don't think it will. I think they'll
522
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:02.119
probably reveal it once MGF drops the
time, which Doctor Trey and I both
523
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:09.360
don't think will be Saturday. Will
the reaction meet our expectations? Like I
524
00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:16.639
think if it's not anybody outside of
Adam Cole, we are disappointed. This
525
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:22.960
could have the higher power type reaction
from we back in what ninety nine when
526
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:25.199
it was revealed as Vince, which
was a decent twist I liked at the
527
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:28.639
time at the time as a kid. But I think a lot of people
528
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:34.119
refer that storyline as being a little
bit underwhelming Where are you sitting on this
529
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:36.719
right now, Doctor Trey? Who
who do you think is behind the mask?
530
00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:38.159
I guess ultimately, I mean,
I guess you've kind of said that
531
00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:42.480
already with Adam Cole. Who do
you think is behind it? Who do
532
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:45.360
you think is revealed? Do you
think it happens on Saturday's pay per view?
533
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:49.440
I mean, I'll sorry, I
don't think it happens at the pay
534
00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:52.159
per view. I think you hang
on to a little longer event especial if
535
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:53.440
you're Gonn put the ring of Monter
tag belts on, you know, the
536
00:36:53.480 --> 00:36:58.079
two mask guys, and it just
it would feel kind of like, you
537
00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:00.760
know, everybody pulling their mask off
at work. They feel like a Scooby
538
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:06.039
Doo episode when it comes to like
who, I think to me, like
539
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:09.320
you have to look at it as
whoever this is has to become the biggest
540
00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:13.679
villain in your company, and so
you have to look at you who your
541
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:17.480
top people are. Like if they
were to reveal Sting as the devil,
542
00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:22.639
like right before you know, his
last match, his last match is him
543
00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:25.679
and m j F, Like that'd
be really cool, Like I'd be all
544
00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:30.119
about that, you know, just
Sting turned heel right before he leaves,
545
00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:34.719
you know. You know that's why
like I take I take Jack Perry out
546
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:37.039
of the mix, because I just
don't think you can put Jack Perry as
547
00:37:37.079 --> 00:37:40.079
being the face in the focal point
of your company. To me, it's
548
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:44.599
got to be an Adam Cole,
a swerve Stricklind, somebody that you've already
549
00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:49.599
either elevated or has already been a
main inventor, you know, and line
550
00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:52.719
that up that way. The swarve
thing be great because I just love to
551
00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:55.039
seeing not in a Devil's match behind
him just dancing away like that'd be funny
552
00:37:55.039 --> 00:38:00.440
as hell too. So maybe it's
stokely Hathaway and he's just say with how
553
00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:02.519
Ring of Honor has been booked for
the last six months and he's the devil.
554
00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:07.000
The firm comes back in, but
you have to present this. That's
555
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:10.719
why everybody hated the Vince gimmick was
because you had a chance to elevate somebody
556
00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:15.599
else and make them an instant main
eventor. And I guess you could do
557
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:19.960
that with Jack Perry. It's just
Jack Parry's one hundred and fifty five pounds.
558
00:38:20.079 --> 00:38:23.079
It's just how do you elevate somebody
who could get knocked over by a
559
00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:28.880
strong you know, Long Island breeze. That's why to me, it's got
560
00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:31.239
to be somebody you're either planning on
making a face or a focal point of
561
00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:35.239
your company, or somebody's already in
that spot. So that's why the Adam
562
00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:37.599
Cole thing makes sense to me.
It's why it swerve makes sense to me.
563
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:42.920
You know, like I just don't
see anybody else on the radar unless
564
00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:45.079
they're just waiting for another free I
mean, could it be a Dolph Sigler,
565
00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:49.679
you know, contracts coming up?
And maybe that's why everybody's better masks
566
00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:53.119
because they've been waiting for that moment
to reveal it to be Doll or somebody
567
00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:59.000
else. And I don't hate the
the mass muscle guys because back in the
568
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:01.559
aces an eighth days, you know
a lot of those mask guys were just
569
00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:05.719
guys they had on the show,
and then when they came out who everybody
570
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:08.559
was? Half the guys they use
under mask were not in the eighties and
571
00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:14.440
eighth groups. So talk about disappointing
reveals, Yes, So I mean there
572
00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:16.480
is, I mean, is it? I just worry about this is going
573
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:20.159
to go old school for a lot
of younger folks. I just hope it
574
00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:23.440
doesn't heard like a Black Scorpion type
thing where they're using one guy's voice and
575
00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:28.199
it gets revealed that it was you
know, Rick Flair. The entire time
576
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:32.039
that was a horrible, horrible angle
because they had somebody else in mind in
577
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:36.039
it the deal fell through. So
it's kind of the same thing here.
578
00:39:36.039 --> 00:39:38.079
It's like maybe they had somebody in
mind the injuries, say, the injuries
579
00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:42.039
that to Adam Cole through a wrench
of the whole plans. They tried to
580
00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:45.639
readjust and drag it out, and
hey, maybe it comes out Musafa,
581
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:50.440
you know, and we get retribution
two point zero you it'll be interesting.
582
00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:54.559
I do know that one of the
henchmen going to the ring last night for
583
00:39:54.719 --> 00:40:00.159
the Ring of Honor World Tag Team
title match against MJFF and Simojoe does have
584
00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:04.920
some sort of go tee because you
could see that in the mass there.
585
00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:08.960
So I don't know the whole thing
is. It's interesting. There's a lot
586
00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:13.960
lot lot writing on this for this
to be a successful storyline, and I
587
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:15.639
really feel like for me as a
wrestling fan, the way that it gets
588
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:20.480
best executed would be the reveal of
Adam Cole behind this all entire thing,
589
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:23.599
so we will see, we will
see how this plays out. AW World's
590
00:40:23.679 --> 00:40:28.679
End comes to us again this Saturday
from the Nasau Veterans Memorial Coliseum in Uniondale,
591
00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:30.880
Long Island, New York. To
everybody tuning into the pay per review,
592
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:37.280
Enjoy the show, enjoy the weekend, stay tuned, stay tuned and
593
00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:40.239
everything. Maybe we do a special
bonus podcast next week to recap and review
594
00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:45.320
AW worldsen on its own. Maybe
we save it for the January eleventh edition
595
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:50.239
of SRTU. But once again,
next week's regular edition of the Still Realto
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Show will be on January the fourth. It's our twenty twenty four wrestling preview
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special. Enjoy the weekend, Enjoy
the New Year's Eve and Day holiday until
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next week or the next time we
get on here. Maybe do a bonus
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cas thank you for tuning in to
this special edition of sr TU. For
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doctor Trey Franklin. I'm Jeff Pack. This is mister Rotho show. Yeah,
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I mean it is. Sorry,
Samley just came in and decided to
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hit me with a bawl. We're
watching AW Talking Wrestling. I figure I
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think he just yes, I'm okay
here in Matthew if I was okay.
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He just hit me the poor an
object and then asked me if I was okay.