Sept. 13, 2024

All Out Recap and Who Should End Danielson's Full Time Wrestling Career | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #761 – 9/12/24

All Out Recap and Who Should End Danielson's Full Time Wrestling Career | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #761 – 9/12/24

On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:

- -- We recap & review "AEW All Out!"
- -- Who should be the one that ends Bryan Danielson's full time wrestling career?
- -- RAW is going back to 2 hours...but is it for the good?
- -- And we look at...

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On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:

  • -- We recap & review "AEW All Out!"
  • -- Who should be the one that ends Bryan Danielson's full time wrestling career?
  • -- RAW is going back to 2 hours...but is it for the good?
  • -- And we look at this year's PWI Top 500 list!

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It's still welcome.

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Everybody. Welcome to this week's edition, Miss no Real. This

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shows number seven hundred and sixty one for September twelve two.

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That on twenty four is your eight of all out,

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recap and review edition of the ass R tam you.

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I am one after the show, I am Jeff Packet

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joined every single week on agost of one one, Doctor

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Trent Franklin, Doctor Tray. I bet you didn't think I

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was gonna be able to sound like this, my friend.

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Yeah, I was telling you off air.

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I thought, at worst you might sound a little bit

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like Eugene. At best maybe Cody Rose, Jack Swagger, lisp

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going on or thing. The fact that you threw out

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the normal intro just then, less than a week after

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having well right out, a week from having jaw surgery,

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you're a trooper, Jeff Peck in false sense of the term.

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Yeah, there's a lot of people that are amazed at

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my healing. I guess I'm certainly one of them. It

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has been a trip, certainly for myself. So I had

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a tumor on my jaw. It's come back, It's benign.

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Everybody's good. Had that removed, had about a two and

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a half three hour surgery a week ago today, so

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last Thursday. And it was the longest surgery of my life.

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The only other time I had surgery, I was out

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for ten minutes, legitimately ten minutes. And I know, doctory

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you're coming off with some surgeries recently and all that stuff.

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Anesthesia is no joke, my friend. I mean, I went

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out at like two forty five. My surgery was at three.

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I went out at two forty five, and the next

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time I looked at a clock, it was seven oh

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seven pm, And I'm like, whoa, how the hell did

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we get here? And my surgery ended at about five

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thirty or so, and I don't remember really coming to

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until about like seven o'clock at night. So I'm not

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eating solids still soft food for the time being, which

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really really sucks. And I actually am doing this podcast

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with one earbud in my ear right now. I should

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have grabbed my headphones and literally over my ears because

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they did the surgery on my jaw. I was up

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on my condyle through basically through my ear, like pulled

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my ear lobe off my body, which is just weird

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to say. So I can't get any EarPods in my

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ear right now, So I am I am gutting this out,

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my friend.

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Yeah, So I think I told you last week and

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a little bit I told this before. Like I remember

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the first time I ever had a colonoscopy. I remember

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them putting me on the gurdy. They put an IV

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in me, and then they said cow bag from one hundred,

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I made it's like ninety five and that was it.

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And then I remember waking up in the lobby of

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the facility we were in talking to my dad like

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mid sense and I'm like, wait, how did I get here.

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He's like, You've been talking to me for like thirty minutes.

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And I'm like, how did I even get dressed? And

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he was like, oh, well, be in. The nurse got

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you dressed. I'm like, I'm a grown man and my

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dad and a nurse were dressing me. And so anesthesia

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is so wild that I remember, like the last one

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for the foot surgery, like I didn't didn't have to

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count back, like they put it in and before I

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got to the surgery to the surgical room, I was

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already out.

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Yeah, that was very similar for me.

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Yeah, and I don't remember anything until I mean, it

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was probably a couple hours, like you, like a couple

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hours after the surgery that I woke up and my

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wife said there next to me.

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I'm like, how long have I been here for? She's like, oh,

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about an hour and a half.

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And I'm like, I don't know how you guys have

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the patience to sit here for an hour and a

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half with someone who's just like snoring and drooling Like

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I would have been, like I didn't check it out

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on of got some food and came back and kept.

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An eye out. But yeah, it's it's crazy.

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And then you'll have like a little bit of a

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lingering effect for like a couple of days.

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Sometimes it's like a fog that just kind.

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Of sets in that just takes forever to kind of

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dissipate out.

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Oh, I said on Sunday to my wife, I'm like,

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I still don't feel one hundred percent. Is that normal?

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Because it's the anesthesia alone, Like my jaw feels pretty decent.

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I mean there's like a dull, little like pain and

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like the right side of my face closer to my

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as I get closer to my ear, it gets a

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number and numb. I'm starting to regain feeling in my cheek,

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but I had this like massive wrap around my head

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for seventy two hours. I've explained it to people like

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like I looked like someone that had a toothache in

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nineteen fifty. That's what I had going on. But the

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thing that was the most was like the anesthesia like

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really kicked my ass. My wife showed me a photo

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last night Wednesday night of me in recovery post op,

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and I'm looking at myself and I'm like, wait, I

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had an iv in. I had no idea, and no

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idea they were giving me fluids. Yeah.

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My question for you right now is though, are are

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you just sharing foods with your son right now?

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We're going back and forth. Well, he's just one sold

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breast milk, So no, him and I are not sharing that.

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But I guess if he was a couple months older,

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then he and I would be into smashed peas and

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apple sauce.

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I mean, you could look at your wife and say, hey,

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some foods protein, calcium.

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There you go.

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I walked right into that one my friends. So but yeah, no,

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it's been it's been pretty wild. It's there's a potential

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for a second surgery, and I mean this is like

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nobody ever says like, oh, this that was enjoyable or

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anything like that. But doctor, I do not want to

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touch a surgery anytime soon, and I'm hopeful that they

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can repair the final leg of this entire jaw issue

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that's been plaguing me the last couple of years over

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various different ways rather than surgical because in all honesty,

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like the anesthesia like really screwed me up. I mean

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it was. It was brutal. Man.

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So not to kind of change subjects, but I had

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my followed like the day you were having surgery. I

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had my four month follow a visit with my doctor

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for my foot surgery, and you know, everybody works.

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Be like, man, when do you get in back? What

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are you get in back?

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And I'm you know, I told you just off air,

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like they never gave me a timeline. And so I

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finally saw my doctor for the first time in about

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a month and a half two months I've been seeing

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like her associate doctors and things like that, and she

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told me flat out, she goes, your foot is the

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bone graft took? Everything looks great, everything was healing properly.

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She goes, what are you like four and a half

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months from the surgery. I'm like, no, it's been three

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and a half. She goes, and then she looked at

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the physical therapy report and she goes, you know, you're

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about a month ahead of schedule.

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And I was like really. I was like really.

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She goes, yeah, she goes, normal recovery time for this

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is about six months. She goes, you're looking to be

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recovered by five and she goes, even that surprising because

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with you being a diabetic, I was expecting seven to eight.

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So I was like, wow, okay, cool, Like, I guess

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Jeff and I both just heal faster for a diabetic

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and a ginger, which I think is going to be

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our new podcast down the road.

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Yeah, it's just gonna be a medical.

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Show Ginger Diabetes.

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Yeah. As the older we get, we just discussed our

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latest surgeries that are going in our lives. Funny enough,

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doctor Trey, So I'm sure you just experienced with your

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surgery a couple months ago as well. There were multiple

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people that came in multiple times asking me the same

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questions over and over before I went to surgery, what

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type of allergies? I have medical past, medical history, family history,

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all this stuff. So the big one was the anst anesthesiologist.

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They came in both separately twice to me one apiece.

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They asked the same questions, do you have any family

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history of anesthesia issues? No, what is your past medical history?

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Very minimal? Blah blah blah. Then I did it again,

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I actually said to the woman. I was like, I

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literally just gave this to your colleague like twenty minutes ago,

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and she's like, okay, yeah, yeah, just do it again

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for me. I'm like, okay, went through the whole gambit.

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So I'm sitting in the recovery room post op and

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my monitor is right in front of me and it

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has like all this information on it and all this stuff,

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and I'm just like looking at it, and I happen

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to see and it was like, there's like this anesthesia

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report and it said like past family history and it

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said bulleted family doesn't take to anesthesia. Well, I'm like,

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I did not say that at all. And then it

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said past medical history type two diabetes. I'm like, I

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am not a diabetic, Like what the fuck is this?

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Like they did I get a stronger dosage? Did somebody

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screw up? Because this is not factual. So I actually

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never got to the bottom of that because I was

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still screwed up by the time I left to the hospital.

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I just wanted to go. I was like, I could

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walk out of here. They're like, no, you need a wheelchair.

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I was like, I believe me, I can go. I'm

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glad they got the wheelchair.

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So I drew on my foot.

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I was like, this foot and then on the other foot.

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I went, not this one, the other one, just to

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make sure they actually got it right, because I was

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literally in that.

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Like I had a friend of mine he went in for.

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He had to have some kind of prostate surgery and

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he literally went in and on the front part of

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the anatomy he like around his groin, he rode not this,

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go to the back door for his proces surgery.

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I thought that was right. Oh that is awesome, man.

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So there you go surgery Recap and Review on this

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week's edition of SRTU. Glad I'm I'm doing well and

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you know, able to sit here and do the podcast,

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because I really thought I was gonna be like, no,

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coming up next to the aw all out recap and review,

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and I was like, gonna have to have a disclaimer

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in the beginning that if I sound like I have

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marbles in my mouth, I apologize. So if I sound

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like I have marbles in my mouth, now, that's just

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because I'm tired and maybe still groggy and can't really talk.

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So and that's just in general. It has nothing to

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do with surgery. With U said, let's switch gears to

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aw all out recap review this past Saturday from the

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Now Arena in Chicago, Chicago, Illinois. We had four pre

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show matches here, Doctor Trey, and this kind of tells

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you how like a little bit groggy I was with

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some of my notes from this stuff. So the first

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match here the Acclaimed defeating the Iron Savages. We did

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not predict this match. The Iron Savage has got a

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lot of good offense in on a team that that

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was just involved in the aw Tag team title match

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at all in and he acclaimed. It was also weird

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to see the Acclaimed in the spot two weeks after

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all in anything you want to share about this pre show.

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Match, really enjoyed the Iron Savages.

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The weird little hand motion to motor boating thing is

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kind of catchy.

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Tity City.

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Yes, if you say so.

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That's what they call it. This is not my I

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thought you.

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Said RJ City, so I got confused for a second.

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Fair fair enough, same thing, But yeah.

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It was really for me, the biggest done for this

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one was the fact that you had the acclaim that

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we're just in a triple threat World Tight Team title

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match as the opening match on the pre show, like,

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not even the main event on the pre show like

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the opening match. So maybe it's their way of kind of,

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you know, getting the crowd fired up, but if you

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need to get the crowd fired up for all out,

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then you're probably having some other issues.

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But it's just a weird spot for the BM.

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But yeah, the Iron Savage has got a lot of

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offense in for that match, but I think it was

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mostly to lead to for some reason, Max Caster having

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to pick up a big, giant man for some reason.

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So outside that it was, it was a fun little

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tag match and enjoyable to watch.

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Hologram Sammycavar on Dustin Road defeated the Premier Athletes in

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a trio match. Once again, we did not predict this one.

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I hope they start to advanced Holograms booking, as I'm

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interested to see how he would fare with some bigger

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names in aw Also, how weird has Sammy Gazzar Sammy

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Guvar's booking been in the last year. Uh. I think

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it's due to being self inflicted, as he was spent

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for a period of this time as well, But that

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has been one of the most confusing things I've ever

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seen for a guy who was considered to be or

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is considered to be one of the pillars of aw

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Doctor Trey, your thoughts on.

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This one, Yeah, I mean it was a it was

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a good little it was a good little six man

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tag but like I'm watching this Cooks, I had not

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really seen a lot of the hologram in person, just

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the just kind of like some clips and stuff, and

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for a brief moment I was convinced that was especially

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saying Kara uh, but it wasn't. The Sammy Guvar booking

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is weird. Seeing him and Dustin as a tag team

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is still taking some getting used to. Not to mention,

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Dustin is one third of the ring of our six

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man tag team champions and neither of his partners were

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in this match, so a.

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Little confusing there as well.

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But overall, like once again, this was the entire pre

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show is they were kind of fun, silly nondescript matches,

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but yeah, I'm kind of the Sami booking is weird.

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Is Hologram gonna get the Commander treatment because or a

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Kingo treatment because those guys were super over for a

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little bit and then distant memories in the past. I

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just I don't know what they're going to do with

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this character who doesn't really speak and is kind of

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a gimmick look.

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Yeah, yeah, I don't know what they're gonna do too.

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I mean, I've been watching on collision and he is

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very impressive. There are times that he does miss some

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of his amazing spots, which should be a given at

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Brussel Prus that he's human. The name is very lame

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in very nineties, but I think they need to start

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pushing them up a little bit because there have been

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some highlight reel stuff and I think it's time coming

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out of all out and all in to see what

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we've got with them and if he's someone that can

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stay up there with the best of them, So we

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will see where things go from there. Next match here

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is the Bang Bang Gang defeating the Dark Order in

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trios match. Once again the not predict this one. The

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Bank Bank Gang are super over and should be pushed more.

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And I also miss the days when the Dark Order

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we're featured more on AW television. I'm sure your thoughts

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on this one.

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Yeah, I miss Johnny Hungy being on Dynamite more like

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I can watch him wrestle all day long.

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Now Evil, you know, I like Evil?

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Who know? I like Alex Rams, but John Silver like

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why he is not? Their version of Chad Gable makes

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no sense to me? But the Bang Bang Gang and

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Juice Robinson are just so over and so much fun

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to watch, and I'm just itching for j White to

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get back so they can be featured more because having

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the acclaimed in the Bang Bang Gang on your pre

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show is kind of a waste.

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Yeah, I agree, It's just the whole pre show to

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me in general, Doctor Troy was like just thrown together

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matches and I did I did not understand the pre show.

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I know we got one more match to go here,

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but I actually was like irritated watching the pre show.

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Yeah, I agree.

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So next match is the Undisputed Kingdom feeding the Beast.

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Mortos and Shane Taylor Promotions in Action Andretti Anti Flight

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Top Flight in a three way trios match did not

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predict this one another strange throwaway match on the pre show,

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as the Beast Mortos had been working with the Undisputed

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Kingdom all the time leading up to this match. At

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least aw cover that as a segment on Collision or

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Rampage the day before, and I wonder what happened to Wardlow.

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I just was saying the Undisputed Kingdom and I was like, man,

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what the hell is Wardlow? They won this one, Doctor.

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Trey, Yeah, I was.

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I know they try to cover it, but I was like,

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did Tony Kahn think Beast Mortos was black?

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I don't.

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I don't really understand. It was like, yeah, they covered it,

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but still is like it's weird. And then you know

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we had that weird appearance on Dynamite from him as

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well to take out Ricochet.

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I was like, does he I don't know what his

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deal is, but yeah it was.

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It was an interesting match in well done, but then

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you know, heck, I got surprised with Donama. I forgot

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Leo Rush was friends with Top Flight, so at least

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that I'm like, okay, Like I like the I don't

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hate the gear when they do the top gun version

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of their gear, but the Flight Attendant Captain ones are

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a little disconcerting at times, but yeah, I mean at

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least Roddy and Tayvin and Bennett got a win because

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those guys have been kind of the good soldiers for

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everybody else they're trying to get over, So it's a

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good victory for Undisputed Kingdom.

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We have met our quote officially of mentioning something about

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the top Flight uniforms. I think we're running on a

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three week podcast streak, so stay tuned for next week

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if we could talk about it, because I'm with doctor Trey.

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It's it's one of those things I noticed every single time.

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Sometimes they wear them, sometimes they don't. Sometimes they're different,

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sometimes they're not there. You go Top Flight in Action

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and treading in Leo rush All. Now in Flight weear

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onto the main show. MJF defeats Daniel Garcia. We both

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at MGF in this one. This was an interesting match

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result with MJF getting the victory, but Daniel Garcia lays

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them out post match despite MJF going away for a

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bit to film something. I guess that's why they did

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that angle. It appears there may be a contract issue

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with Garcia then, because then that doesn't make sense to me.

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When don't you have Garcia takeout MGF with the victory

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and the postmatch injury angle if he is still with

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aw not the way that they went about that. So

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despite all that, Doctre I did think this was a

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really fun opener's MJF defeeded Daniel Garcia.

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Yeah, and a good bay to start of the show.

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The crowd was super into it. They were really hyped

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up for it. My thought on it was, okay, you

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can have MJF sneak the win at because just like

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we mentioned last week with Swarrez Strickle, do you really

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want MJF losing back to back pay per views. This way,

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MJF gets a win, Garcia still comes out strong, and

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you can still write both guys off if you need

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to if the movie or the contract situation takes place.

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So but really really fun and enjoyable batch and just

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love the fact that a pile driver is once again

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an important wrestling move like it was as a kid.

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Paul Ornhor's pile driver, you know, Don Morocco's pod Those

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were like Killer Lawler, Jerry Lawler and then just got

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banned and went away. Now one of them I don't

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know if you saw the picture one of them that

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Garcia hit on MJF looked really scary, look very reminiscent

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of the owen Hart's stone Hole tombstone, like the way

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the head was positioned. But just it's just good to

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see that move VM using wrestling again.

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Yeah and again, just on this whole thing, Doctor Trey.

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I mean, whennt it made sense for Daniel Garcia to

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win lay him out if he's staying with AW.

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If he's staying with AW, but if the contract's up

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in the air, MJF getting the win, but Garcia getting

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a measure of revenge that way, if at the contract doesn't

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work out, he can ride off into the sunset and

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be forgotten about in a year or so.

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I will add, and this is going to be a

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feme on the show. No follow up to this on

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one Today's Dynamite. Next match, here is the Young Bucks

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defeeding Blackpool Combat Club of Claudia Castilian Wielder Units, retaining

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AW Tag Team Championship. We did not predict this one.

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This is a really solid tag team match with an

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awful finish. I kind of want the Young Bucks to

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get back to the good old days as I felt

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like this EVP angle has ran its course. I'm not

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sure why Claudio and you were the number one contenders

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for the tag titles, but here we are when it

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comes to Aw's booking. That's sure. Your thoughts on this

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one is the Young Bucks tofeed the Blackpool Combat Club.

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Well, they weren't the number one contenders. They just asked

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for the match, so they got a match. So it

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wasn't that they were number one rated. They were just like, hey,

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we want to shot. No you don't get one. Well,

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you guys are chickens. Okay, now you get one. So

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that was basically the storyline leading into it. I thought

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this match was okay, but just it just felt like

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a filler spot kind of tag team match, and the

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finish was really bad. So it was okay, but not

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up to the level of Widow the Bucks in Claudio

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and Dic couldn't if really given the opportunity in a

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little bit of a storyline.

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Next match year is will Osprey defeating Pak to retaindy

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AW International Championship. We both had will ospray this one

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my recap in this and I just simply wrote, holy shit,

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that was a lot of fun. That's the recap.

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Yeah, that's about what I had written down too. I

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was like, dear God, I forgot how good pak can

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be when given the opportunity. Every time I see will Osprey,

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I like him more and more, And this was just

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an amazing match. I don't know what else in the

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shows or on this car is going.

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To top it. Will Osprey is a star of my friends.

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Chris Statlander defeats Willow Night and Gallon of Chicago Street Fight.

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We both had Chris Statlander and this one. Stan Lander

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and Willow had the tough task of following Osprey park

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and they delivered. And then some incredible performance by both

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women and a nice bounce back went for stat Lander,

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who really need the victory. She has taken too many

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l's lately. I also guess this wasn't for the CMOL

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World Women's World Championship, Doctor Trey. Your thoughts on this one?

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Yeah, I thought that was what was like.

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This might be the best women's street fight I have

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seen in the last few years, arguably Willow's best match

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I've ever seen Willow have.

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And just a lot of fun.

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For these two, Like how do you follow up ospray

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and Poc and be on level. I was amazed at

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how good this match was, so kudos a both those girls.

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They absolutely killed it.

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Next match is Cazisco Kata defeating Mark Briscoe, Orange Cassie,

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Kenoski Takashka in a fatal four way match, retaining the

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AW Continental Championship. We did not predict this one. I

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really liked the night before that they made this a

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big part of Collision on Friday night heading into AW

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all in are all out, excuse me? And I thought

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that was really good and smart booking by AW creatively

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because I'm going to bash them for some stuff here.

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This match reminded me how I much how much I

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enjoy watching Okada, Oc, Brisco and Takeshko Russell. I hope

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we get to see more Continental title matches on AW

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because I feel like it's become a forgotten title since

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Okada was champion, and we need more title defenses from

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the rain Maker. It's like that's all I can think about.

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I'm like, wait, why don't we get this more. There

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was a period of time the International Championship and in

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the Condinal Championship were defended so many times on television,

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and now we barely get it, Doctor Trey. Your thoughts

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on this one as Ocada retains.

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I kind of thought the same thing.

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I was like.

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I was like, I love seeing o'cad in the ring.

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He's fun.

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I'm looking forward to Acata and Takeshko when that happens.

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And I blame will Ospray for not having more Ocata

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matches because they have will Lost Spray like literally in

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everything right now. So yeah, it was really fun match.

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I love Mark brisco I Orange Cassidy's fun. Like this

472
00:22:39.680 --> 00:22:43.160
is a really fun for a match that really didn't

473
00:22:43.160 --> 00:22:44.839
get a whole like I mean literally is like a

474
00:22:44.839 --> 00:22:47.759
one day build to it, but it kind of worked,

475
00:22:47.839 --> 00:22:50.240
so it was. It was a good four way match

476
00:22:50.359 --> 00:22:51.240
and really entertaining.

477
00:22:52.079 --> 00:22:54.799
Next match here, as Mercedes Monet defeending Nakarls Sheeta retain

478
00:22:54.839 --> 00:22:57.440
the AWTBS Championship both with that Monau and this one.

479
00:22:57.880 --> 00:22:59.880
I don't know if there was a miscommunication between Mo

480
00:23:00.119 --> 00:23:03.119
and Cheetah, but Mercedes kicking out at one and rolling

481
00:23:03.119 --> 00:23:06.599
out of the ring after three consecutive Katana kicks also

482
00:23:06.640 --> 00:23:10.359
known as Sheeta's finisher, was a really odd look. Other

483
00:23:10.440 --> 00:23:12.799
than that spot, I thought this was a nice bounce

484
00:23:12.839 --> 00:23:14.920
back match for Monett after a match with Britt Baker

485
00:23:14.960 --> 00:23:17.279
all in which was not good. I really hope she'd

486
00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:20.039
get some consistent booking because I do enjoy her work. Doc,

487
00:23:20.119 --> 00:23:21.319
suree your thoughts on this one.

488
00:23:21.960 --> 00:23:25.240
I thought it was a slightly better match for Monet

489
00:23:25.279 --> 00:23:30.240
than against Baker. I couldn't figure out if Monette was

490
00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:33.039
just no selling Cheetah for the sake of pissing her off,

491
00:23:33.160 --> 00:23:37.319
or if it was Lyargy's miscommunication. But I also realized

492
00:23:37.359 --> 00:23:41.640
I would much rather watch Mariah Bay than Mercedes Money

493
00:23:41.799 --> 00:23:42.640
any day of the week.

494
00:23:43.039 --> 00:23:44.079
Just way more entertaining.

495
00:23:44.200 --> 00:23:48.319
Like just the segment that Mariah May had began the

496
00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:50.240
show with Sky Blue was more entertaining to me.

497
00:23:50.279 --> 00:23:52.720
The dispatch next match.

498
00:23:52.559 --> 00:23:55.279
Here is Brian Danielson defeating Jack Perry to retain the

499
00:23:55.319 --> 00:23:59.039
aw World Championship. Hold on to this one here, Doctor Trey,

500
00:23:59.039 --> 00:24:02.039
we both at Brian Daniels annoying this one. You know

501
00:24:02.079 --> 00:24:04.759
how in wrestling you'll hear legends say that fans can

502
00:24:04.759 --> 00:24:09.359
tell when something is bullshit. Well, Jack Perry playing some

503
00:24:09.400 --> 00:24:12.559
sort of badass rebel is that bullshit that I could

504
00:24:12.559 --> 00:24:15.839
smell out as a wrestling fan. His character slash Kimmick

505
00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:18.119
is not working with me and he should go back

506
00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:20.480
to the character he portrayed pre all in twenty twenty

507
00:24:20.480 --> 00:24:24.599
three when he was coming out with the classical music.

508
00:24:24.640 --> 00:24:27.319
I thought that was really good before he was suspended.

509
00:24:27.920 --> 00:24:31.680
Referee Bryce Remsburg breaking up the small package pin was

510
00:24:31.720 --> 00:24:34.200
also a really bad look in this one. With all

511
00:24:34.279 --> 00:24:37.920
that said, I will give the scapegoat his due, which

512
00:24:38.039 --> 00:24:40.039
was he held his own in this match with Danielson,

513
00:24:40.119 --> 00:24:43.559
and the entering storytelling was really good. The postmatch angles

514
00:24:43.599 --> 00:24:45.440
were the best stuff from the segment, from the interaction

515
00:24:45.480 --> 00:24:48.640
between Killswitch and Jack Perry to the BCC turning on

516
00:24:48.759 --> 00:24:53.240
Danielson made creative sense. We got an explanation as to

517
00:24:53.480 --> 00:24:56.759
Moxley and Pock's BCC status, and you to being upset

518
00:24:56.759 --> 00:24:59.599
with his mentor Danielson being taken out made sense as well.

519
00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:02.200
There have been some stuff from Dynamite that has not

520
00:25:02.279 --> 00:25:04.720
made sense when it comes to this angle, which I'll

521
00:25:04.720 --> 00:25:07.079
get to you here once we recap this pay per view,

522
00:25:07.319 --> 00:25:09.880
But looking at the show itself, Doctor Trey, that was

523
00:25:09.920 --> 00:25:12.680
my thoughts as Brian Danielson retained over Jack Perry.

524
00:25:13.680 --> 00:25:16.599
Yeah, I literally when I'm watching this scapegoat thing. I

525
00:25:16.680 --> 00:25:18.920
literally think I just wish he would do a Hollywood

526
00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:22.559
Jack Perry gimmick. I get why you're doing it, but

527
00:25:22.759 --> 00:25:25.200
now I mean the stuff with punk and everything else.

528
00:25:25.240 --> 00:25:29.359
That's been almost a year. Now let it go, move

529
00:25:29.400 --> 00:25:33.200
on to something else. A Hollywood Jack Perry paired with

530
00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:35.559
the Bucks. It makes a lot more sense. The characters

531
00:25:35.599 --> 00:25:39.240
would be more in alignment. Him doing like this mad

532
00:25:39.319 --> 00:25:41.480
Max type thing at times doesn't make a lot of sense,

533
00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:45.559
especially when you're one hundred and ninety pounds. In this match,

534
00:25:45.640 --> 00:25:47.960
it worked because Brian Danielson is one hundred and ninety

535
00:25:47.960 --> 00:25:50.519
pounds also, so it made it worked out. The match

536
00:25:50.559 --> 00:25:54.960
itself I thought was really well done. It's a universal

537
00:25:54.960 --> 00:25:57.440
wrestling questions of did Jack Perry hold his own or

538
00:25:57.480 --> 00:25:59.480
did Brian Danielson carry him through the match? I think

539
00:25:59.480 --> 00:26:03.000
this is much more Perry can wrestle. He's just the

540
00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:07.799
character doesn't fit what he does. I loved Claudio and

541
00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:10.160
you'd to cut it coming out to initially cut off

542
00:26:10.200 --> 00:26:14.359
the Bucks, and then when it led into the turn postmatch,

543
00:26:14.440 --> 00:26:17.039
I thought it made a ton of sense. It really worked.

544
00:26:17.160 --> 00:26:20.279
One of the best turns we've seen in wrestling in

545
00:26:20.359 --> 00:26:22.440
quite some time, even though, yeah, it's gonna get remembered

546
00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:24.880
as the plastic bag incident. But for the most part,

547
00:26:25.279 --> 00:26:29.079
seeing Mox and Pak and Claudio turn on Brian Nilson,

548
00:26:29.680 --> 00:26:31.680
I thought that was really really cool and gave the

549
00:26:31.720 --> 00:26:35.240
BCC some direction finally because they haven't had some in

550
00:26:35.279 --> 00:26:35.720
a while.

551
00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:38.200
So love the match, love the finish.

552
00:26:38.440 --> 00:26:42.640
Just great overall, other than just Jack Perry trying to

553
00:26:42.680 --> 00:26:45.720
be and you're right, the kill switch Jack Perry thing

554
00:26:45.799 --> 00:26:46.599
was really cool as well.

555
00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:49.920
I saw something online that it had a picture of

556
00:26:50.039 --> 00:26:52.480
Jack Perry and Raven next to one another, because he's

557
00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:55.759
doing the Raven post a lot of times, and they

558
00:26:55.799 --> 00:27:00.839
called Jack Perry Timo's version of Raven, which I thought

559
00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:04.240
was a great line. It's just not working for him.

560
00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:07.720
This the bus and rolling up and I'm supposed to

561
00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:13.359
believe that this son of a very famous nineties actor

562
00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:17.200
is some sort of badass and he just got punked

563
00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:20.720
out by CM punk via the footage that they themselves

564
00:27:20.759 --> 00:27:23.680
shared a couple months ago on aw Television. It's just

565
00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:26.799
it's not working. It's not working at all. I can't

566
00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:28.480
believe it, and you could smell it a mile away.

567
00:27:28.799 --> 00:27:33.160
Yeah, he needs a ward Low a Keith Lee Sin's

568
00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:36.720
he's not doing anything right. He needs some muscle behind

569
00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:39.680
him really for this character, he needs a kill switch

570
00:27:39.839 --> 00:27:43.440
for this character to really work. He needs some muscle

571
00:27:43.960 --> 00:27:46.319
behind him because then it makes it look more like

572
00:27:46.519 --> 00:27:50.720
he's a cultish leader and people could buy it, like

573
00:27:50.799 --> 00:27:52.920
much like Christian Cage has going on or some of

574
00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:55.200
the other people, or even though like dawaias sixty degree,

575
00:27:55.480 --> 00:27:59.759
if you have that character with a following, that's great.

576
00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:03.319
But so and that character is a sidekick in a faction,

577
00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:05.240
it doesn't work as well.

578
00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:08.200
We'll get to some of the BCC stuff here once

579
00:28:08.200 --> 00:28:10.880
we recap again, but yeah, feel free to chime in

580
00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:13.400
at SRTU podcast with anything that we've said so far

581
00:28:13.400 --> 00:28:16.759
in regards to all out from this past Saturday. With

582
00:28:16.880 --> 00:28:18.880
that said, to the main event here is Hangman Adam

583
00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:21.079
Page defeat Swerve Strickling in a steel cage match. We

584
00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:24.680
both had a Hangman Adam Page in this one. Hangman

585
00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:26.519
Page walking out of the heel tunnel and embracing the

586
00:28:26.599 --> 00:28:28.759
dark side was a really nice subtle start to this

587
00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:31.960
match that he'ped prepare for what was expected during this match.

588
00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:35.319
The spot to this one were something Swerve Staple in

589
00:28:35.359 --> 00:28:38.279
the family photos from the house buying segment onto Hangman's body,

590
00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:42.960
the cinder block vertebreaker, Swerve stabbing Hangman with a burnt

591
00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:46.240
piece of wood from his house, Hangman power bombing Swerve

592
00:28:46.279 --> 00:28:50.079
on a cinderblock, the hyperdermic needle into Swerve's cheek, and

593
00:28:50.279 --> 00:28:52.960
finally the last chair shot to the head leading to

594
00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:56.599
Hangman's victory. This was gory, rustling cinema and this is

595
00:28:56.640 --> 00:29:00.559
the best feud AW has ever produced. Its version of

596
00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:04.680
Raven Dreamer and Stein Generico. Hangman being broken post match

597
00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:06.960
with the crowd being silent was something, and it was

598
00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:09.799
a cool one eighty for his once lovable character. And

599
00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:12.559
I love the closing shot of an insane Hangman screaming

600
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:15.640
to close the show. Doctor Trey, your thoughts on this.

601
00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:20.039
One one of It's a weird thing for me to

602
00:29:20.079 --> 00:29:24.119
say this. At times I felt they did too much,

603
00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:28.200
but some of the stuff they did I have never

604
00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:32.680
seen before, which blows me away. The very beginning of

605
00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:36.799
them lowering the cage and trying to wedge each other's

606
00:29:36.839 --> 00:29:39.519
head into the cage as it's lowering, I'm like, Okay,

607
00:29:39.640 --> 00:29:40.400
that's really cool.

608
00:29:40.839 --> 00:29:41.640
Never seen them before.

609
00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:43.279
The so of the cinder blocks, I'm like, all right,

610
00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:46.759
maybe a bit much like a verte breaker onto a

611
00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:49.920
cinder block. The verte breaker has literally ended people's careers

612
00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:53.880
and was banned in multiple states for a long time

613
00:29:54.720 --> 00:29:57.160
because of about dangerous to do it onto a cinder

614
00:29:57.200 --> 00:30:01.119
block and the match continue, I thought was a little

615
00:30:01.160 --> 00:30:05.000
too much, But overall this might have been the best

616
00:30:05.039 --> 00:30:06.759
steel cage match I've seen in a decade.

617
00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:10.839
Just the steel cage much, I gotta.

618
00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:12.920
Say, with the pile driver for many a many year

619
00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:16.640
was like the pen ultimate way to end a feud

620
00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:21.839
and has gotten kind of misplaced over the past few years.

621
00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:25.079
This was as brutal of a cage match as I

622
00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:28.160
have seen since the old NWA days of like Dusty

623
00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:33.279
and Flair for crying out loud, just brutal, crazy, over

624
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:36.720
the top, as much fun as you can have watching

625
00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:41.359
a wrestling match and still suspending disbelief and going what

626
00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:43.039
the F did I just see here?

627
00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:47.880
Just for as like as over the top.

628
00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:50.400
As it was at times, it was just maybe the

629
00:30:50.440 --> 00:30:52.839
most fun I've had watching a wrestling match in quite

630
00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:53.240
some time.

631
00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:55.440
You know what's a good thing that aw did here

632
00:30:55.519 --> 00:30:57.319
is you go back to the full gear match, and

633
00:30:57.400 --> 00:30:59.279
there was a lot of stuff that we actually discussed

634
00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:01.400
in that match. We liked that match, but we were like,

635
00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:02.839
I think they went a little bit too far and

636
00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:05.440
it was too much. Being that they already like broke

637
00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:07.759
that wall down, anything that they did in this match

638
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:10.319
did not surprise me at all. Even the hypodermic needle.

639
00:31:10.359 --> 00:31:13.319
I'm like, it's a little bit like like, oh my god,

640
00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:16.200
like queasy, like looking at it. Done. Not the biggest

641
00:31:16.200 --> 00:31:18.200
fan of needles, and they're putting in his mouth. I'm like,

642
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:22.079
this is insane. And I'm almost positive that Hangman wanted

643
00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:24.000
to puncture it through his cheek, like that was the

644
00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:26.920
spot that they were looking for and it just wasn't working.

645
00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:28.920
That was.

646
00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:34.160
What these guys come up with for this match is insane.

647
00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:37.359
But the entire feud itself, I mean, obviously those two

648
00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:39.400
guys are playing a massive hand in how the direction

649
00:31:39.480 --> 00:31:43.079
their feud's going. Whoever is creatively helping build this feud,

650
00:31:43.519 --> 00:31:46.000
I mean, all of them, who everybody's involved, deserves to

651
00:31:46.039 --> 00:31:48.240
like take a mass about, like let's let's break the

652
00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:50.640
fourth wall on an upcoming dynamite. All these people come

653
00:31:50.680 --> 00:31:52.079
out and they just take a bow Well, give him

654
00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:54.960
a noster or whatever, because it has been really good

655
00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:58.039
wrestling cinema, and I think what's most important here, Doctor Trey.

656
00:31:58.359 --> 00:32:00.440
There were some parts of this throughout the entire show

657
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:03.119
that did this as well, including that BCC angle at

658
00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:08.119
all out it proved that AW can deliver from a

659
00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:12.799
storyline standpoint, because we saw that come ahead with this

660
00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:16.440
feud and match and build since Hangman's been back on television.

661
00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:19.200
I mean, this entire feud has been phenomenal and it's

662
00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:22.160
been start stop. I think it came together very organically.

663
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:28.799
And you know, Joe Swerve is the joker to Hangman's batman.

664
00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:33.039
I mean he turned Hangman to a heel. He turned

665
00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:36.119
him into a bad guy. And who would have thunked that,

666
00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:38.359
you know, a year and a half ago when he

667
00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:41.200
was this clean cut baby face that did cowboys shit

668
00:32:41.559 --> 00:32:45.680
on AW television. Again, my only issue with this going

669
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:47.480
back to like how I felt with the MGF Daniel

670
00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:51.160
Garcia stuff, Doctor Trey no follow up on Wednesday's Dynamite.

671
00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:55.160
I was disappointed to see that nothing from Hangman, no segment.

672
00:32:55.279 --> 00:32:59.240
No, No, there was Hangman backstage.

673
00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:03.680
Oh that's right, he did the stuff backstay Okay, yeah,

674
00:33:03.720 --> 00:33:05.880
the dark order. People weren't looking at him and all

675
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:09.680
that stuff. Jeff Jarrett, Yes, the stuff with Jeff Jarrett. Yes,

676
00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:11.640
you're absolutely right. This is what I get for watching

677
00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:14.039
aw at two am when I'm feeding my son and bottle.

678
00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:17.759
But yeah, no, you're right, that did carry over. The

679
00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:19.400
only thing with that is I just didn't felt like

680
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:22.559
it was. I guess it's impactful because it didn't resonate

681
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:22.839
with me.

682
00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:27.599
Well, there's the weird thing for me was Hangman saying

683
00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:31.559
and if you tried to help him or stop me

684
00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:35.119
in this, you're on I'm coming for you next. And

685
00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:38.279
I was like, well, who was that was? I mean,

686
00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:40.359
the only person really they got involved this whole angle

687
00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:42.680
was Jeff Jarrett. So and then they played that off

688
00:33:42.680 --> 00:33:45.640
a little bit, and Jarrett was mad that Hangman touched Karen.

689
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:50.839
So I was like, who's there's still we need direction

690
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:54.440
or we need I guess a little cleaner follow up

691
00:33:55.079 --> 00:33:57.319
than what we saw. Even you know, you look at

692
00:33:57.400 --> 00:34:02.279
him going you've changed, Okay, didn't you guys turn a heel?

693
00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:04.720
Also when din'd you guys be embracing this darker side?

694
00:34:04.759 --> 00:34:08.320
I this is and this is I guess a little

695
00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:10.320
bit of the issue I have with AW is like

696
00:34:11.960 --> 00:34:14.800
they forget sometimes or they just don't give a crap

697
00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:20.039
as to what direction a character's going, So then it's

698
00:34:20.119 --> 00:34:22.320
like they or at least they only do it with

699
00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:25.480
like the main event guys, like the the mid card

700
00:34:25.519 --> 00:34:29.480
and the undercar guys. They forget stuff at times. But

701
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:31.199
but yeah, I mean, at least that one did have

702
00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:34.719
a slight follow up and they didn't just ignore that, Hey,

703
00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:37.440
our main event match, we're not going to say anything

704
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:40.159
about on the very next episode of Dynamite.

705
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:43.760
Yeah, yep, no, you were right. I did forget about

706
00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:46.719
that segment. I guess I would have liked to see

707
00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:48.960
something a little bit more of those impactful like I

708
00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:50.800
love the stuff with Moxley at the start of Dynamite,

709
00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:53.119
Like I thought that was memorable. That was a really good,

710
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:55.519
you know, opening segment that they did there to recap

711
00:34:55.559 --> 00:34:59.400
everything from all out. I guess Word is going away

712
00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:02.199
for a little bit. He's potentially filming something, So him

713
00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:04.480
and MGF are filming something, which is not great. I

714
00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:07.559
don't know if they're not if they're filming together, but

715
00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:13.159
it's a buddy cop drama that they're doing. Comedy but yeah,

716
00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:14.760
he's off of television for a little bit. I guess

717
00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:17.159
according to reports with in regards to Swerve, which is

718
00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:19.760
a bummer. You got to figure that this feud picks

719
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:23.039
back up again. I hope it continues Doctor Trey once

720
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:28.440
Swerve comes back. I would love to see whether they're actors, actresses, whatever.

721
00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:31.280
But I think you got to get Hangman's family involved

722
00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:33.159
at this point, right, Like his wife and his kids

723
00:35:33.199 --> 00:35:35.159
need to, you know, have a segment and be like,

724
00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:37.840
we need our dad back, we need our husband back,

725
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:40.519
Like who are you anymore? Like get the crowded gasp

726
00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:42.400
and all that crap. I think that's kind of what's

727
00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:43.000
missing here.

728
00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:46.119
I think one of the line that Jared said is

729
00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:48.199
that the toughest opponent some like, when you go down

730
00:35:48.239 --> 00:35:51.239
this path, the toughest opponent you'll have is the.

731
00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:52.320
Man you're facing in the mirror.

732
00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:55.440
And I'm waiting for the segment where you see Hangman

733
00:35:55.599 --> 00:35:57.880
fighting with himself in his house, his wife and his

734
00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:00.920
kids around, and Hangman looks at them and Swerve a

735
00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:02.360
staring back at him in the mirror.

736
00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:04.559
Cool stuff like that.

737
00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:07.320
Stuff like that would be really impactful to kind of

738
00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:11.639
show why he's gone off the rails. But you know,

739
00:36:11.800 --> 00:36:14.280
like that's that's the thing that the w like certain

740
00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:16.880
storylines they play. I mean, hell, they're playing off at

741
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:18.480
angle from four and a half years.

742
00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:21.320
Ago right now. Like they do have the ability to

743
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:22.280
do stuff.

744
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:26.960
It's just that sometimes they like they have Sammy Govarber's

745
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:30.599
Ricochet for no apparent reason other than somebody said, oh, I'd.

746
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:32.719
Love to see those guys go at it. They're they're high.

747
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:35.360
Flyers, So I mean, doesn't really play No, a storyline,

748
00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:37.119
doesn't really play into the way things have been booked,

749
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:40.159
and then hey, we should just have Morto Spear Ricochet

750
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:45.360
for no apparent reason other than he's bored and Ricochet

751
00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:48.519
Sometimes where's Red and I don't know, I don't know.

752
00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:50.599
Is a big fan of the Chicago Bulls.

753
00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:54.360
Yeah, I mean that's and that's the thing that drives

754
00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:56.599
me nuts sometimes is like they'll they'll play stuff off

755
00:36:56.599 --> 00:36:59.320
that's really well in a great angle, and then they

756
00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:03.039
have other stuff that you're just like, why, like by

757
00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:04.360
the way, when you put by the way, I don't

758
00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:05.440
this is a nipicking thing.

759
00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:07.840
And I know we're getting off track here. That match

760
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:08.800
with govar Ricochet.

761
00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:11.400
Why do you do a moon salt off the top

762
00:37:11.519 --> 00:37:14.639
of the stage like four minutes into the match, and

763
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:17.000
at the eight minute Matt, at the eight minute.

764
00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:22.039
Mark, you're doing at chinlock like that makes no sense.

765
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:25.639
I don't. I don't see what you're upset about. This

766
00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:29.239
is what you're upset about. So there you go. It was.

767
00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:31.719
It was cinema. I think it's like Batman and Joker

768
00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:34.760
for AW. I love the stuff with Swerve laughing at

769
00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:38.519
the end before Hangman finished him off because I could

770
00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:41.599
be perceived that Swerve is laughing because he got him

771
00:37:41.639 --> 00:37:43.639
to the dark side. I mean, there was a lot

772
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:46.039
of great stuff it was. It was really really well done.

773
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:48.920
With that said, let's give our match to the night

774
00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:52.480
an event rating. Doug Tray, I always seem to go first,

775
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:54.320
so why don't you go first? What was your event

776
00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:56.119
rating for all out? What was your match of the night?

777
00:37:57.239 --> 00:37:58.800
My event rate was at four point one.

778
00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:03.280
Really solid show with some really memorable, really memorable stuff

779
00:38:03.320 --> 00:38:05.039
that we'll remember five ten years from now.

780
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:06.840
Match of the night.

781
00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:09.320
I think I'm gonna go Swerve in page just because

782
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:12.440
they kept upping the A like you wet a great point.

783
00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:16.360
They've upped the ante every single match they've had in

784
00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:19.000
this feud, and if they go to a fourth match,

785
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:21.440
I don't know what ups it from here other than

786
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:23.039
literally just setting somebody on fire.

787
00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:26.159
Yeah, well, let me get there's some point. We've seen

788
00:38:26.199 --> 00:38:29.719
that already once before. In aw my event reading, I

789
00:38:29.719 --> 00:38:31.360
gave it a three point seven out of five. I

790
00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:33.199
didn't fully love the show. I thought there was a

791
00:38:33.239 --> 00:38:35.679
couple of gaps, but there's some really good stuff that

792
00:38:35.719 --> 00:38:40.679
went on there. M Jeff Danglarcia, Willow and Stat and

793
00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:43.880
Osprey and Pack and I liked the Danielson angle at

794
00:38:43.840 --> 00:38:46.559
the Inn, and I liked obviously Swerve and Hangman, But

795
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:48.920
I thought there was a lot of stuff that was

796
00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:50.880
kind of filler in there, including stuff with ap pre

797
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:53.320
show that we talked about. My match to the night

798
00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:55.679
was will Osprey Park. I love that match, but that

799
00:38:55.760 --> 00:38:58.039
was very hard not picking Hangman out in Page and

800
00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:00.639
Swarp Stroke Clane. I feel like you can't go wrong

801
00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:03.280
picking either one of those matches from the show, Doctor Trey.

802
00:39:03.760 --> 00:39:05.760
Yeah, let me ask you this, if you cut out

803
00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:08.360
the pre show, would your rating be higher?

804
00:39:09.719 --> 00:39:12.039
I think just even looking at the main card, like

805
00:39:12.119 --> 00:39:16.679
Bucks Blackpool Combat Club wasn't a big fan of Ocada, Briscoe,

806
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:21.199
Cassie Takeshko was okay, Mercedes Mona Hikarashida I did not

807
00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:24.519
fully enjoy. I thought it was fine, and I thought

808
00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:26.880
Danielson and Perry ran a little bit too long for

809
00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:32.320
my liking. I just I didn't find the show completely

810
00:39:32.360 --> 00:39:34.679
top to bottom like entertaining in that sense.

811
00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:38.639
Yeah, I mean for me, the Seeta Mona mash kind

812
00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:43.360
of was blah. The Bucks match was kind of but

813
00:39:43.599 --> 00:39:46.159
just about everything else I was, I got really into,

814
00:39:46.239 --> 00:39:48.599
which for an aw show, I can't really say that.

815
00:39:48.559 --> 00:39:50.599
All that often. So that's like.

816
00:39:51.320 --> 00:39:53.119
I always kind of base mine off. Is there gonna

817
00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:55.679
be something that I remember years from now? And I

818
00:39:55.679 --> 00:39:59.519
think I got two of those moments between the Hangman

819
00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:02.960
pay or the Hangman's Worst stuff and then the BCC turned,

820
00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:05.440
So I'll have stuff I remember from this, you know,

821
00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:06.280
five years from now.

822
00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:08.360
The only thing I will say to this because a

823
00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:11.400
couple of months ago, I thought the EVPs Jack Perry

824
00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:13.639
taken out Tony Kahan segment was gonna be one of

825
00:40:13.639 --> 00:40:15.559
those things that we would remember forever and maybe we'd

826
00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:19.320
still do because that's what happened. That to me has

827
00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:22.039
not resonated as an impactful moment, you know, months later.

828
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:26.199
Yeah, but then Tony Kahn's never done anything for retribution,

829
00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:28.280
which is why it kind of fell by the wayside.

830
00:40:28.480 --> 00:40:31.000
Well, he's just had hired He's just hired Christopher Daniels

831
00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:34.360
to do his dirty work, which is strange. All Right.

832
00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:36.960
With that said, let's just I want to move over

833
00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:39.639
to this conversation here who should be the one that

834
00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:43.199
ends Brian Danielson's full time wrestling career. And I had

835
00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:45.280
mentioned earlier on that I was going to talk a

836
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:47.239
little bit about some creative stuff that I did not

837
00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:51.679
enjoy from Dynamite following up from the whole all out show,

838
00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:56.039
and that one thing is the Moxley angle and Darby

839
00:40:56.039 --> 00:40:59.280
Allen and Nigel McGinnis heading into Grand Slam. I really

840
00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:01.480
liked the opening of Dynamite. I thought it was a really,

841
00:41:01.559 --> 00:41:03.880
really great way to recap, and I like the explanations

842
00:41:03.920 --> 00:41:07.320
from John Moxley. And then Moxley and Darby have their

843
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:11.719
moment and he says, Darby's not ready hand over your

844
00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:16.280
title shot for an aw World Championship match because the

845
00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:18.360
match that you were guaranteed to have at Grand Slam

846
00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:22.960
against Brian Danielson is not happening because he's incapacitated, and

847
00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:25.119
I was like, okay, this makes that makes sense. Now

848
00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:28.639
he wants to have the championship. He doesn't think Darby's ready.

849
00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:30.760
He wants me the one that wins the championship and

850
00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:34.079
take over the company, at which Moxley said, and then

851
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:36.599
he says that Danielson's in capacitated, he won't be at

852
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:39.920
Grand Slam. And then Nigel McGinnis comes out and challenges

853
00:41:41.119 --> 00:41:43.840
Brian Danielson to a match of Grand Slam, and Tony

854
00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:47.280
Kahn green lights it in storyline standpoint, and they said

855
00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:49.199
that the only way this happens is if Brian Danielson

856
00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:50.920
gets cleared in the next two weeks from the match,

857
00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:58.199
And that explanation did not make me feel good at all,

858
00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:01.360
Doctor Trey. And this actually ties into you, who I

859
00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:03.440
think should be the one that ends Brian Danielson's full

860
00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:06.679
time wresting career. I thought that was shit booking, I

861
00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:09.199
really did. I think it started off good, that made sense,

862
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:11.880
but you keep Danielson off that card. I want to

863
00:42:11.880 --> 00:42:14.199
see him and Nigel go at it. But it's like,

864
00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:17.000
I have an idea what they're doing here, which I

865
00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:19.639
will get to you in just second, But I thought

866
00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:23.119
that was shit booking in regards to what they're doing

867
00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:25.280
with Brian Danilson post aw all out.

868
00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:32.079
Yeah, I thought it made absolutely zero sense because Darby

869
00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:35.960
is scheduled to have this match. Moxley comes out and

870
00:42:36.039 --> 00:42:38.679
just like you said, Moxie comes out, says Daniel says a.

871
00:42:38.719 --> 00:42:41.199
Capacity, he won't be able to do it. Dad.

872
00:42:41.719 --> 00:42:43.880
I'm like, all right, cool, that makes sense that way,

873
00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:46.639
you're not kind of screwing Darby here, Like I get

874
00:42:46.760 --> 00:42:50.920
why you're doing it. It makes sense, but to him.

875
00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:52.920
And then when Nigel comes out and says, you know,

876
00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:55.639
the way he set it up, thats like Dalels has

877
00:42:55.679 --> 00:42:56.199
been ducking in.

878
00:42:56.280 --> 00:42:58.320
This is the match that he's been wanting. Da Dada.

879
00:42:58.360 --> 00:43:00.360
I'm like, yeah, it makes sense. But then have it

880
00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:05.039
go into the same show that forty five minutes earlier

881
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:10.639
you just said he's incapacitated but now he might be ready.

882
00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:13.880
Well that that just kind of screwed everything up. It

883
00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:16.880
didn't make a ton of sense to me so as much.

884
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:20.719
And the bad thing is both matches I really do

885
00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:22.880
want to see you do want to see Darby and

886
00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:25.480
John Mossey go at its. I want to see Nigel

887
00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:28.239
and Brian Nilsen go at its, but to get to

888
00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:31.679
it made zero sense, and you kind of just blew

889
00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:34.000
everything else up in your face in the process, like

890
00:43:34.679 --> 00:43:37.719
it just didn't work for me. And it's still you

891
00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:40.480
got Jack Perry out there still doing yes, you know,

892
00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:43.079
mocking Daniel Brian or excuse me, Brian Danielson with the

893
00:43:43.679 --> 00:43:46.840
the yes move and stuff, and it's like, are are

894
00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:49.559
we going back to that as well? Is that still

895
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:51.960
part of this whole angle? And him just kind of

896
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:58.199
storming off like it just wasn't well thought out to

897
00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:01.079
get to where you wanted to get. I don't mind

898
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:04.559
where you want to get to, but at least let

899
00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:05.679
the path make sense.

900
00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:08.559
Yeah, again, I agree with you. These are two matches

901
00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:12.800
I want to see, and the entire thing of itself,

902
00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:16.199
like if you separate both storylines from one another, it

903
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:18.119
makes sense. It's like, oh, okay, that makes sense why

904
00:44:18.119 --> 00:44:21.280
Moxley wants to do it, but maybe you do. Nigel

905
00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:24.559
versus Danielsen at Wressell Dream a couple of weeks later

906
00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:28.280
and Danielson's cleared and we'll figure out if Moxley or

907
00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:31.559
Darby has won you know that opportunity for a title

908
00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:34.960
match post Russell Dream maybe you do it a full

909
00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:37.559
gear And then that takes me to what I think

910
00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:39.760
is going on right now. So who should be the

911
00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:43.239
one that ends Brian Danielson's full time wrestling career for

912
00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:45.639
argument's sake here, for discussion sake, doctor Trial, just come

913
00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:47.360
out and say that I think it should be Darby Allen.

914
00:44:47.679 --> 00:44:51.159
There were reports out there pre all in that if

915
00:44:51.239 --> 00:44:52.920
Danielsen were to win, he was going to drop the

916
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:55.519
title like pretty immediately to Darby Allen at Grand Slam

917
00:44:55.519 --> 00:44:59.280
because he had won the Royal Rampage match to have

918
00:44:59.320 --> 00:45:02.679
a championship title shot at Grand Slam in late September.

919
00:45:03.440 --> 00:45:06.880
And then I started noticing Wressell Dreams coming up twenty

920
00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:09.719
twenty four, and it's in Tacoma, Washington. You got two

921
00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:13.800
Washington boys, Brian Danielson and you got Darby Allen. And

922
00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:16.000
if there was a place that they want to crown

923
00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:19.639
Darby Allen champion, it is in front of the hometown crowd.

924
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:22.360
And to me, I think that's what we're getting at.

925
00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:27.800
I think Darby wins over Moxley, which creatively would not

926
00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:32.639
make a bunch of sense, right now, so maybe I

927
00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:34.920
could be talked out of that part. I think Moxley

928
00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:39.440
versus Danielson or Russell dream after he defeats Darby for

929
00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:42.159
the title shot would make sense. And obviously I think

930
00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:45.760
Danielson defeats Nigel mcguinnis in a dream match that you

931
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:47.679
know Nigel's wanted to see and I never thought we

932
00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:49.480
would get to see every again because I think the

933
00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:51.639
last time these two guys Russell one another was in

934
00:45:51.679 --> 00:45:53.400
two thousand and nine and Roh and they were both

935
00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:55.639
on their way out. One was they both were suspected

936
00:45:55.639 --> 00:45:57.880
to be going to we and then I believe Nigel

937
00:45:57.920 --> 00:46:02.679
failed a medical exam or physical, So that's who I think.

938
00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:05.280
I don't think that there's anyone else on that roster

939
00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:07.159
right now in aw that should be the one that

940
00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:09.639
ended Brian Danielson's full time wrestling career doct tray, and

941
00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:14.119
I think it's Derby out of everyone. I would have

942
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:18.480
said Swerved Strickland, but obviously that ship is sailed. It's

943
00:46:18.480 --> 00:46:21.000
got to be someone that deserves the rub, and the

944
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:22.639
one that deserves the rub is Derby. And I could

945
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:24.960
see Darby winning at Wressell Dream in front of the

946
00:46:24.960 --> 00:46:27.760
hometown crowd, And I would not be shocked if Christian

947
00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:30.840
Cage came out and cashed in and defeated him and

948
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:32.599
walked out of w Russell Dream as the AW World

949
00:46:32.679 --> 00:46:34.199
Champion in front of the crowd that's going to be

950
00:46:34.199 --> 00:46:37.039
booing and really really irritated and pissed off, taking a

951
00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:39.239
page out of the book of how fans felt about

952
00:46:39.239 --> 00:46:43.000
Brian Danielson when he was Daniel Brian in twenty thirteen SummerSlam,

953
00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:45.800
when he defeated John Cena and triple H turned on

954
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:47.440
him and then led to Randy Or to win the

955
00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:50.320
championship again. So I could see something like that playing out.

956
00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:53.960
So those are my thoughts, Doctor Trey. It's definitely something

957
00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:55.599
that's going to gain a lot of momentum in traction

958
00:46:55.719 --> 00:46:58.159
the longer that this goes. But Danielson needs to put

959
00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:00.760
someone over that deserves it on his way out to

960
00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:02.519
end his full time rustling career and also drop the

961
00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:05.039
AW World Championship. And I don't think there's any more

962
00:47:05.239 --> 00:47:08.800
anybody else more deserving or that would utilize this opportunity

963
00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:11.000
of the most than Darby Allen would in the AW.

964
00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:14.880
I think my only issue with it is how much more.

965
00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:17.440
How much more rubbing of Darby Allen can he get?

966
00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:21.920
I mean he I know that sounds weird, but like

967
00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:25.960
he's had the sting rub, he's had the pillars rub,

968
00:47:26.559 --> 00:47:31.440
Like I get it. He's true. He's a generational talent.

969
00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:35.400
Like the guy is an incredible wrestler. He's the most

970
00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:39.639
death defying wrestler we've seen since you know, Jeff Hardy's

971
00:47:39.679 --> 00:47:44.559
early days. To me, it should have been Swerve because

972
00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:47.920
of the same thing you just mentioned. They're both Washington guys,

973
00:47:48.760 --> 00:47:52.400
Like it makes sense. But if they do the Derby route,

974
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:54.199
Like that was my thought process when you went down

975
00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:57.159
the Derby route, was like, Okay, Darby wins in Tacoma,

976
00:47:57.199 --> 00:48:00.400
but then Cage catches in because I, once again it's

977
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:02.079
kind of Jack Perry thing. As much as I love

978
00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:04.400
Darby Allen, I just don't see the guy who's one

979
00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:08.960
hundred and sixty five pounds, Like the belt almost outweighs Darby,

980
00:48:09.440 --> 00:48:12.800
Like I just have an issue with these tiny people

981
00:48:13.960 --> 00:48:16.960
beating up like three hundred pounds man three of like

982
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:20.480
just so these giant guys, it just it doesn't happen

983
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:23.440
in real life unless you're like if you go back

984
00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:25.880
to like UFC one and two when they had these

985
00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:29.400
the crazy fighting styles. You saw the hoist Gracie fighting

986
00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:32.280
a sup bow wrestler and he'd win, Like it just

987
00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:37.559
doesn't typically happen with trained fighters. And that's always been

988
00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:41.920
kind of my knock on AW is it is the

989
00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:45.800
land of like tiny people, Like Edge is a giant

990
00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:49.480
in ae W and he's like six four two fifty.

991
00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:53.039
You know, it's like he was an average sized guy

992
00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:56.400
at time in WW. If you're gonna go down the

993
00:48:56.480 --> 00:48:58.840
route of who needs who kind of should be the

994
00:48:58.880 --> 00:49:00.159
one to end it? To me, it should have been

995
00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:04.480
Swerve or should have been MJF just because I think

996
00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:08.559
those guys are more positioned to be the flag bears

997
00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:10.039
of your company just physically.

998
00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:14.679
They don't need that now, right they're established. It's got

999
00:49:14.719 --> 00:49:17.440
to be someone that I think, I think Danielson wants

1000
00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:18.480
to establish someone.

1001
00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:20.440
Well, I mean, look at this way.

1002
00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:22.559
Out of all of the wrestlers that you and I

1003
00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:28.320
have followed over the years and Havery's hired, has any

1004
00:49:28.440 --> 00:49:33.599
of their opponents actually really done anything after those big matches?

1005
00:49:33.760 --> 00:49:38.199
Shawn Michaels, Yeah, I'm just kidding. He really actually didn't

1006
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:40.440
after the match with taker.

1007
00:49:41.239 --> 00:49:44.119
Does take me from retiring Flair to take or need

1008
00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:45.639
the rub for retiring Sean.

1009
00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:48.840
I just think it's just that old guard wrestling mentality

1010
00:49:48.840 --> 00:49:50.920
which Danielson has. I guess the only other person I

1011
00:49:50.920 --> 00:49:54.039
can think of is we're having this discussion, is Osprey.

1012
00:49:54.880 --> 00:49:58.400
Yeah, or I mean a Wheeler dah, Oh.

1013
00:49:58.280 --> 00:50:02.119
My god, that's not wheel Er? You to AW World Champion? Yeah,

1014
00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:04.480
I mean I like the guy in all but none, no, no.

1015
00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:07.320
But it's there's some of these guys on this roster's like,

1016
00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:10.679
okay this there are some very talented younger wrestlers, but

1017
00:50:10.760 --> 00:50:14.079
they're all undersized, which Brian Danielson is. So I guess

1018
00:50:14.119 --> 00:50:17.360
in that sense, it doesn't make sense to pass the torch.

1019
00:50:18.039 --> 00:50:20.000
But if you were like, hey, who's the guy at

1020
00:50:20.039 --> 00:50:22.480
AEW that you think Brian Dason? What should pass the

1021
00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:27.960
torch to Darby? Doesn't really fit the Danielson character. I

1022
00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:30.639
mean it should be like a Garcia or you know,

1023
00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:32.840
like I hate saying Wheeler, you know, but I mean

1024
00:50:33.119 --> 00:50:36.599
those guys wrestler summer styles. I mean, Baron Corbin didn't

1025
00:50:36.599 --> 00:50:40.639
do anything after retiring, Kurt Engele, you know, somebody's guys

1026
00:50:41.079 --> 00:50:42.400
don't do anything with it.

1027
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:46.519
So you know his run on NXT as part of

1028
00:50:46.559 --> 00:50:47.199
the Wolf.

1029
00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:51.719
Dogs, Yeah, I mean, and now he's what the Wolf crewise,

1030
00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:55.760
I guess I mean cruel, cool, crul.

1031
00:50:57.239 --> 00:50:57.719
Yeah.

1032
00:50:58.119 --> 00:51:00.480
I don't know if there's anything really it's to be

1033
00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:04.679
gained by you know. Oh, he's the one that I mean,

1034
00:51:05.199 --> 00:51:07.519
if you're gonna be a heel, I'm the one who

1035
00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:11.840
retired Brian Danielson. Okay, that works, but I mean Darby's

1036
00:51:11.880 --> 00:51:13.079
not gonna got bragging about it.

1037
00:51:13.119 --> 00:51:13.960
That's not the character.

1038
00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:16.679
So I I just don't know if there's an upside

1039
00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:20.519
to it unless Christian Cage cashes in in the middle

1040
00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:23.360
of the match and wins the match and then he

1041
00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:26.559
can have his little two year runs being the guy

1042
00:51:26.559 --> 00:51:27.679
who retired Brian Danielson.

1043
00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:30.960
I like Christian Cage in all, and I just think

1044
00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:33.280
he has pushed way too much on a TOWB television.

1045
00:51:33.320 --> 00:51:36.840
I find I find this, I find this current run

1046
00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:38.320
to be boring with him. I gotta be.

1047
00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:43.639
Honest, I liked it.

1048
00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:46.480
There are times that has ebbed and flowed, and I'm

1049
00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:48.039
with you, I got I'm like, does he have something

1050
00:51:48.039 --> 00:51:48.800
on Tony Khan?

1051
00:51:48.840 --> 00:51:51.639
Like, does he have Tony Kan's favorite wrestler. He's Tony

1052
00:51:51.679 --> 00:51:55.079
Khan has come out and said that, but it's all

1053
00:51:55.199 --> 00:51:59.000
time favorite wrestler. You said it's Christian Cage. He's booking

1054
00:51:59.079 --> 00:51:59.559
him like that.

1055
00:52:00.079 --> 00:52:04.360
Yeah, like I think that, Like I've always loved Christian Cage,

1056
00:52:04.400 --> 00:52:07.880
but he's not my favorite wrestler of all time. It's

1057
00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:10.039
just that's an odd person to single as being your

1058
00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:12.599
favorite wrestler. That's like saying, you know, for somebody to say,

1059
00:52:12.639 --> 00:52:14.719
like Lance Storm was our favorite wrestler of all time.

1060
00:52:16.199 --> 00:52:18.639
Like I love lan Storm, but not my favorite wrestler

1061
00:52:18.679 --> 00:52:20.199
or Steve Blackman for that matter.

1062
00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:23.719
Wow, now we're just getting head cheese lower and lower here.

1063
00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:28.159
Yeah, it's just yeah, like the Christian Cage you're on,

1064
00:52:28.840 --> 00:52:30.920
it's been good. I have enjoyed it, but yeah, there

1065
00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:33.719
are times where I'm like, ah, right, it's it's a

1066
00:52:33.760 --> 00:52:36.159
little stale at times, but then they do something that's

1067
00:52:36.239 --> 00:52:38.679
kind of fun and weird and they've killed the kill

1068
00:52:38.719 --> 00:52:41.760
switch turning on him. Angle at the point now where

1069
00:52:42.119 --> 00:52:44.280
when kill switch does turn nobody's going to give a crap.

1070
00:52:44.760 --> 00:52:47.639
Yeah, I guess the only part. I mean, Moxley Mosley

1071
00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:50.920
could defeat Darby right and Moxley let ending Danielson's full

1072
00:52:50.920 --> 00:52:52.480
time wrestling crew would make sense.

1073
00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:55.320
To Yeah, by the way, did you did you love

1074
00:52:55.519 --> 00:52:58.400
the references to his lordship in the in the.

1075
00:52:58.320 --> 00:52:59.639
Mox pro I did like that.

1076
00:53:01.079 --> 00:53:03.880
I mean that's a saying like mox Claudio, like anybody

1077
00:53:03.880 --> 00:53:06.639
in the BCC makes sense because you can build off

1078
00:53:06.639 --> 00:53:08.480
those guys like Maxi's not going anywhere for the next

1079
00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:10.039
four or five six years, so he could have a

1080
00:53:10.039 --> 00:53:13.039
little bit of a run with it. To me, though,

1081
00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:15.239
it should just be somebody that you think could physically

1082
00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:18.480
withstand the demands of being your world champion. I mean

1083
00:53:18.519 --> 00:53:21.480
a hangman hangman doing it wouldn't make sense, especially because

1084
00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:23.719
it stays on this dark journey.

1085
00:53:24.840 --> 00:53:27.480
But and if Darby does it, it's fine, especially if

1086
00:53:27.480 --> 00:53:29.320
it's in Tacoma. It's fine with me. I'm not gonna

1087
00:53:29.360 --> 00:53:30.360
hate it.

1088
00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:32.440
It just needs to be somebody to me, like, if

1089
00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:36.599
I'm looking forward at my company five years from now,

1090
00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:39.920
ten years from now, who can withstand the rigors of

1091
00:53:39.960 --> 00:53:44.280
being a focal point physically hold up to those demands.

1092
00:53:44.280 --> 00:53:45.840
And I don't know if Darby can do it.

1093
00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:49.000
I think they want them to do it, though, I

1094
00:53:49.039 --> 00:53:52.199
think if all out of all the pillars right, MGF

1095
00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:54.199
has already been established. The next one that makes sense

1096
00:53:54.239 --> 00:53:56.719
to me, it would be Darby. I mean, I don't

1097
00:53:56.719 --> 00:53:58.800
think Sammy and I don't think Jack Perry are world

1098
00:53:58.880 --> 00:53:59.760
champions right now.

1099
00:54:01.440 --> 00:54:04.079
I think they think Jack Perry could be a world champion, though.

1100
00:54:06.400 --> 00:54:10.119
I think they do too. I think I think there

1101
00:54:10.239 --> 00:54:12.280
is a lot of Vince in some Tony Kahn book

1102
00:54:12.280 --> 00:54:14.800
and I think he's a very stubborn booker, I gotta admit,

1103
00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:16.960
And I think putting Jack Perry in that spot it

1104
00:54:17.000 --> 00:54:19.880
all out in Chicago was like an FU to anybody

1105
00:54:19.920 --> 00:54:22.559
who's anti Jack Perry and pro sampunk.

1106
00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:26.960
To me, yeah, these very like Vince would hold grudges

1107
00:54:27.199 --> 00:54:30.840
and do things just to incite the fan base. And

1108
00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:32.280
I think Tony does the same thing.

1109
00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:36.840
Yeah, it's it's this playground. Feel free to chime in

1110
00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:39.039
at sr TW podcast on X on who you think

1111
00:54:39.039 --> 00:54:41.039
should be the one that ends Brian Daelson's full time

1112
00:54:41.039 --> 00:54:44.440
wrestling career. Dutchery is some big news that was announced

1113
00:54:44.480 --> 00:54:46.840
during this past week's edition of Monday Night Ross starting

1114
00:54:46.880 --> 00:54:49.599
I think October the seventh. It's like the first Monday

1115
00:54:49.679 --> 00:54:53.119
Night in October ROZ going back to two hours for

1116
00:54:53.159 --> 00:54:55.800
the rest of the time on the USA network. In

1117
00:54:55.880 --> 00:54:59.000
regards to how many how long it will go on Netflix,

1118
00:54:59.679 --> 00:55:01.920
the our reports are stating that there may be times

1119
00:55:01.920 --> 00:55:03.280
it goes two hours, it may go two and a

1120
00:55:03.280 --> 00:55:05.440
half hours, and it may go three hours. Sometimes we

1121
00:55:05.480 --> 00:55:07.920
may exceed that. There really is no time for him

1122
00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:10.920
right now when it goes to Netflix. So you and

1123
00:55:10.960 --> 00:55:13.519
I have been fans of Monday Night Raw being three

1124
00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:17.239
hours the last couple of years. Now are you happy

1125
00:55:17.280 --> 00:55:20.239
that it's going back to October two hours in October?

1126
00:55:20.280 --> 00:55:21.119
And is it for the good?

1127
00:55:21.880 --> 00:55:24.519
You know, when this was announced, I immediately flashed back

1128
00:55:24.599 --> 00:55:27.000
to some of our early shows and We're like, dear god.

1129
00:55:26.800 --> 00:55:28.400
We had to watch three hours of Raw. That was

1130
00:55:29.039 --> 00:55:30.159
oh excruciating.

1131
00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:34.039
It took forever, it just drug And now I'm like, damn, Like,

1132
00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:36.440
are you gonna like have to eliminate some of the

1133
00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:40.039
people that we like watching right now because it's only

1134
00:55:40.079 --> 00:55:43.679
got two hours and we're getting some really good quality

1135
00:55:43.800 --> 00:55:48.519
matches because instead of having filler, we just extend the match.

1136
00:55:48.559 --> 00:55:49.519
It make it even better.

1137
00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:53.840
Like I'm okay with it because I think they're gonna

1138
00:55:54.039 --> 00:55:57.760
try to cram a whole bunch of stuff into two hours,

1139
00:55:57.760 --> 00:55:59.679
because now you've got to figure out what you're gonna

1140
00:55:59.679 --> 00:56:02.480
do that extra hour and fit it back into the

1141
00:56:02.480 --> 00:56:07.000
whole program. Because it's been really, really good. It's gonna

1142
00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:08.960
be hard, Like how do you build up a Bronson raid?

1143
00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:10.679
How do you build up some of these other guys

1144
00:56:10.679 --> 00:56:14.639
that have been getting built up over the last few

1145
00:56:14.679 --> 00:56:16.320
months with a three hour show?

1146
00:56:17.159 --> 00:56:18.280
Now you have to limit that.

1147
00:56:19.480 --> 00:56:21.800
And they're still talk of Roman Reigns having to be

1148
00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:23.800
on raw, and if you have Roman on Raw, like

1149
00:56:23.840 --> 00:56:25.320
you got to make sure you got time for that,

1150
00:56:25.400 --> 00:56:28.679
because I love Roman Reigns. But sometimes those promos with

1151
00:56:28.719 --> 00:56:30.519
Paul Hayman can run about twenty minutes.

1152
00:56:31.159 --> 00:56:33.920
Oh, they certainly can. Yeah, those will run for a

1153
00:56:33.920 --> 00:56:39.480
real long time, and yeah, it will be long on Netflix.

1154
00:56:39.480 --> 00:56:42.039
I guess I'm looking forward to the changeover for Netflix.

1155
00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:45.559
And the old man in me is excited about two

1156
00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:47.679
hour Monday night raws. I got to meet Doctor Trey,

1157
00:56:47.760 --> 00:56:49.480
so like for it to be over at ten o'clock,

1158
00:56:49.559 --> 00:56:51.719
Like that's a dream for an old guy like myself,

1159
00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:54.880
because watching some of those three hour raws on DVRs

1160
00:56:54.880 --> 00:56:56.880
back in the day would suck. But they've done really good.

1161
00:56:57.079 --> 00:56:59.719
I'm upset that people are gonna lose some character development

1162
00:56:59.719 --> 00:57:00.159
in this one.

1163
00:57:01.000 --> 00:57:03.079
Yeah, and for me, the show will be ending at

1164
00:57:03.159 --> 00:57:06.440
nine o'clock, which means what the hell do I do

1165
00:57:06.519 --> 00:57:08.639
for an hour? Because I go to bed at ten? So, like,

1166
00:57:08.679 --> 00:57:10.239
what am I gonna do for an hour? Like imbout

1167
00:57:10.280 --> 00:57:13.280
to flip over and catch the end of a Saints

1168
00:57:13.400 --> 00:57:15.159
Vikings Monday night football game?

1169
00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:16.320
I guess in that last hour?

1170
00:57:16.719 --> 00:57:19.840
Oh God, I hope it's not Saints and Vikings. And

1171
00:57:19.840 --> 00:57:21.559
then we talk about this every year. So with the

1172
00:57:21.559 --> 00:57:25.360
PWI five hundred, the top ten release list was released.

1173
00:57:26.159 --> 00:57:28.480
Let's go through it here, Doctor Stray ten through one.

1174
00:57:28.679 --> 00:57:34.039
Ten was Mystico nine, Gunther eight, John Moxley seven, MJF six,

1175
00:57:34.159 --> 00:57:38.400
Damien Priest five, Titsi and Ido four, seth Rons, three,

1176
00:57:38.440 --> 00:57:44.199
will Ospray, two Swerve Strickland and one Cody Rhodes. Your

1177
00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:45.519
thoughts on the list?

1178
00:57:45.880 --> 00:57:49.079
So did they give you the dates of when the

1179
00:57:49.880 --> 00:57:51.000
rankings were compiled?

1180
00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:54.480
I think they always do it September to September, all right.

1181
00:57:54.519 --> 00:57:57.719
I mean I don't hate the rankings.

1182
00:57:57.960 --> 00:58:01.920
I mean you can argue, you know, is Mystico really

1183
00:58:01.920 --> 00:58:04.719
a top ten guy when most of the audience doesn't

1184
00:58:04.760 --> 00:58:09.039
know who he is, didn't I thought Nido had a

1185
00:58:09.079 --> 00:58:11.440
bad year in New Japan, but maybe I was wrong,

1186
00:58:13.239 --> 00:58:15.599
you know, like some of it is a little bit skewed,

1187
00:58:15.599 --> 00:58:18.039
but I think for the most part, I think seven

1188
00:58:18.039 --> 00:58:21.599
of the top ten absolutely deserved to be there. I

1189
00:58:21.599 --> 00:58:23.519
saw people complaining that gun Thy maybe should been higher

1190
00:58:23.559 --> 00:58:26.440
than Davey and Priest, but Priest had a little better

1191
00:58:26.920 --> 00:58:29.320
he was championed for longer and Guntherer just got the

1192
00:58:29.320 --> 00:58:32.119
belt right before the rankings ended. But Gunther was ic

1193
00:58:32.360 --> 00:58:35.639
champ for forever. I don't like saying six hundred and

1194
00:58:35.639 --> 00:58:37.840
sixty six days because then God punishes me.

1195
00:58:38.920 --> 00:58:41.960
But you know, maybe Gunther over Priest.

1196
00:58:42.159 --> 00:58:46.480
You know, m j Or Moxley was in and out

1197
00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:50.159
a lot this year, so it is kind of you know,

1198
00:58:50.239 --> 00:58:52.960
it's you can nitpick it. But I really think outside

1199
00:58:53.000 --> 00:58:56.599
of you know, Mistico and Nido, like eight of the

1200
00:58:56.599 --> 00:58:59.119
top tens and the top ten are pretty solid picks.

1201
00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:03.519
Yeah, I agree with you. I you know, this goes

1202
00:59:03.559 --> 00:59:05.840
a lot with how we feel about how this year

1203
00:59:05.880 --> 00:59:07.320
has turned out. I mean, we had this discussion a

1204
00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:08.519
couple of months ago when we were looking at the

1205
00:59:08.519 --> 00:59:10.639
halfway point of the year. I think it's a three

1206
00:59:10.679 --> 00:59:12.440
dog race on the men's side of things when you

1207
00:59:12.480 --> 00:59:14.679
look at Osprey, Swerve and Cody Rhodes to the top

1208
00:59:14.719 --> 00:59:16.960
men in professional wrestling right now.

1209
00:59:18.880 --> 00:59:23.039
I as with as much as Drew McIntyre has done

1210
00:59:23.039 --> 00:59:26.440
this year, even though not winning as much as maybe

1211
00:59:26.480 --> 00:59:28.079
he should, I think he's been one of the most

1212
00:59:28.159 --> 00:59:31.920
entertaining characters. So I think I think maybe Drew should

1213
00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:33.800
be in the top ten. If he wasn't mentioned there,

1214
00:59:33.800 --> 00:59:36.320
I literally forgot you if you said Drew McIntire.

1215
00:59:36.039 --> 00:59:37.960
No, he's not in the top ten. And that's that's

1216
00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:39.920
a very fantastic point of somebody who should be in

1217
00:59:39.960 --> 00:59:42.199
that list. Let me Actually they broke it down some

1218
00:59:42.239 --> 00:59:45.079
more over at Wressell Purris on Twitter. So the twenty

1219
00:59:45.119 --> 00:59:47.920
twenty four p WI five hundred top ten from we

1220
00:59:48.000 --> 00:59:50.760
SO one was Cody Rhodes, Number four was seth Number

1221
00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:54.519
six was Damian Priest, Number twelve was Sammy Zay. Thirteen

1222
00:59:54.960 --> 00:59:59.039
is Drew McIntyre at seventeen. Here you go ahead, I

1223
00:59:59.119 --> 00:59:59.599
was a third.

1224
00:59:59.679 --> 01:00:01.760
That's way too low for Drew McIntire this year.

1225
01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:03.960
I agree, he's had a really, really, really good year.

1226
01:00:05.519 --> 01:00:08.599
I think i'd put him top five. Doctor try.

1227
01:00:08.679 --> 01:00:10.360
Yeah, i'd at least have I mean, i'd have him

1228
01:00:10.360 --> 01:00:13.800
over missed a go Nido, you could argue him and

1229
01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:17.320
count Priest and was out for the year.

1230
01:00:17.480 --> 01:00:20.760
I Moxley, I would put him over. I liked I've

1231
01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:23.039
actually liked Damian Priest a lot this year. I think

1232
01:00:23.559 --> 01:00:26.559
he could be a top top five wrestler and he's

1233
01:00:26.599 --> 01:00:27.800
just on the outside with six.

1234
01:00:29.159 --> 01:00:29.400
Yeah.

1235
01:00:29.519 --> 01:00:33.440
No, I to me, it would probably be Cody Swerve Osprey,

1236
01:00:33.599 --> 01:00:35.639
McIntyre Priest would be my top five.

1237
01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:38.719
Cody Swerve McIntyre, Osprey Priest.

1238
01:00:39.719 --> 01:00:41.960
Yeah, you can switch Ospray McIntyre.

1239
01:00:42.639 --> 01:00:44.639
Yeah, I would go cod I thought, Man, I don't

1240
01:00:44.639 --> 01:00:46.960
know right now, I really want to say Swerve number one.

1241
01:00:48.039 --> 01:00:50.679
Oh no, I'm not saying like Cody's number one. I'd

1242
01:00:50.679 --> 01:00:51.639
just say my top.

1243
01:00:51.480 --> 01:00:55.440
Five top five wrestlers this year. Yeah, yeah, like Cody

1244
01:00:55.599 --> 01:01:00.000
Swerve Osprey McIntyre Priest. Yeah, I think I agree with you.

1245
01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:02.719
I'd probably go Swerve number one as of right now.

1246
01:01:02.920 --> 01:01:04.519
Yeah, I think I would go Swerve number one right

1247
01:01:04.519 --> 01:01:10.960
now as well. And I think Cody two, Osprey, three Priest,

1248
01:01:11.639 --> 01:01:13.039
McIntyre four, Priest five.

1249
01:01:14.000 --> 01:01:17.800
Yeah, that would be my Yeah, I would and and

1250
01:01:17.920 --> 01:01:19.960
but then i'd have Gunther right behind Priest.

1251
01:01:20.079 --> 01:01:21.320
Yeah, I think's in there.

1252
01:01:22.360 --> 01:01:26.000
I can't really, just as the character development for both

1253
01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:29.440
those guys this year has been great. Seeing guntherer do

1254
01:01:29.440 --> 01:01:31.760
a lot of stuff on his own without Kaiser and

1255
01:01:32.239 --> 01:01:35.400
Vinci right there with him, I think helps him out,

1256
01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:37.199
as you know, helps him out as well.

1257
01:01:38.239 --> 01:01:39.239
But yeah, it's it's hard.

1258
01:01:39.320 --> 01:01:42.000
It's for me, it's hard to separate Gunther and Priest

1259
01:01:42.039 --> 01:01:43.800
because I think they both had outstanding years. I just

1260
01:01:43.840 --> 01:01:46.679
think McIntyre's been more entertaining than both those guys.

1261
01:01:46.920 --> 01:01:49.519
I also think Rollin's being injured the last like five

1262
01:01:49.559 --> 01:01:53.480
months and off of television here and there has really

1263
01:01:54.480 --> 01:01:57.079
like dampened how good of a year he was having

1264
01:01:57.119 --> 01:01:58.880
from the last time that they did this list.

1265
01:01:59.400 --> 01:02:03.280
Yeah, but I mean that's literally like Rolins, Moxley, mjf

1266
01:02:03.519 --> 01:02:06.800
are all basically gonna saying like Tree when they're there,

1267
01:02:06.880 --> 01:02:09.519
it's great years. But they've been off TV so much

1268
01:02:09.639 --> 01:02:12.440
this year it's hard to put them into that upper

1269
01:02:12.480 --> 01:02:13.440
echelon that we named.

1270
01:02:13.519 --> 01:02:15.800
That is a really good point. That is a good point.

1271
01:02:16.239 --> 01:02:19.280
The rest of the We List seventeen was Juso twenty seven,

1272
01:02:19.360 --> 01:02:22.079
is La Night twenty eight is Trick Williams. I like Trick.

1273
01:02:22.159 --> 01:02:26.400
That's way too high. Thirty Elia Dragonoff, like Ilia, that's

1274
01:02:26.400 --> 01:02:29.960
probably way too high. Thirty seven Logan Paul, that's way

1275
01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:34.880
too high. PWI five hundred. Top ten from AAW two

1276
01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:39.159
is Swerve three, will Ospray seven, mjf Hhn Moxley eleven,

1277
01:02:39.199 --> 01:02:46.119
Samoa Joe fourteen, Brian Danielson twenty, Eddie Kingston twenty one,

1278
01:02:46.239 --> 01:02:50.559
Kisisko Katta twenty four, Orange Cassie twenty six, Adam Copeland.

1279
01:02:51.920 --> 01:02:54.119
Okay, so you're gonna have Eddie Kingston, who hasn't been

1280
01:02:54.159 --> 01:02:57.360
in a ring in like seven months, just off that

1281
01:02:57.440 --> 01:03:00.760
ranking is higher than Kevin Owens in ring Orton this year.

1282
01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:03.119
Well that was just top ten for AW. But yes,

1283
01:03:03.159 --> 01:03:05.280
you're right, Kevin Owens and Randy ort were not up there,

1284
01:03:05.320 --> 01:03:06.960
now that I get what you're saying.

1285
01:03:07.039 --> 01:03:11.239
Yes, yeah, so, I mean it's is PWI as much

1286
01:03:11.320 --> 01:03:12.599
I love, and they do have a little bit of

1287
01:03:12.599 --> 01:03:15.800
a melter thing to them where they'll rank some guys

1288
01:03:16.360 --> 01:03:19.079
a little bit higher than they should be just because

1289
01:03:19.119 --> 01:03:22.400
they're of their affiliation. And we probably get skewed by

1290
01:03:22.599 --> 01:03:24.239
fans as well for saying that we have more of

1291
01:03:24.280 --> 01:03:28.239
a WWE bias. But Eddie Kingson's twenty and he broke

1292
01:03:28.280 --> 01:03:30.679
his leg like in April.

1293
01:03:32.199 --> 01:03:35.000
He was having a great year. That Continental Classic run

1294
01:03:35.119 --> 01:03:36.719
was a lot of fun. But I get what you're saying.

1295
01:03:36.840 --> 01:03:37.320
I do get it.

1296
01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:38.559
Sis he won it.

1297
01:03:38.599 --> 01:03:40.440
They took the belt right off, They split all the

1298
01:03:40.440 --> 01:03:42.679
belts up right like what two months after he won

1299
01:03:42.719 --> 01:03:45.280
the Triple Crowd Tile they split all the belts up

1300
01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:47.719
and then o'cata had the Continental title.

1301
01:03:47.519 --> 01:03:50.639
Right after that. Some just for fun here which we've

1302
01:03:50.639 --> 01:03:52.800
never covered, but Russell Puris had had put this up

1303
01:03:52.840 --> 01:03:56.159
on their Twitter feed. Who do you think they have

1304
01:03:56.320 --> 01:04:00.519
down as the number one colored commentator and profession and wrestling?

1305
01:04:00.559 --> 01:04:02.639
This is not a play by play person number one

1306
01:04:02.840 --> 01:04:03.760
color commentator.

1307
01:04:04.800 --> 01:04:09.880
Oh that's a good one. Crap.

1308
01:04:10.039 --> 01:04:13.760
I honestly don't know, because I would probably say Wade Barrett.

1309
01:04:14.519 --> 01:04:15.920
Wade Barrett is number two.

1310
01:04:16.679 --> 01:04:22.719
Ah, okay, number one. Nigel McGinnis, Okay, I can't hurt

1311
01:04:22.760 --> 01:04:23.360
Nigel's good.

1312
01:04:23.400 --> 01:04:27.239
I can't. Nigel's amazing. When I saw this list, all

1313
01:04:27.239 --> 01:04:29.199
I could think to myself is how much is Triple

1314
01:04:29.360 --> 01:04:33.559
h pissed off that when he got sick? Vince let

1315
01:04:33.800 --> 01:04:36.159
Nigel go to rot On like NXC level up and

1316
01:04:36.239 --> 01:04:37.800
let his contract basically run out.

1317
01:04:38.480 --> 01:04:40.400
Yeah, but do you think Triple H would let Nigel

1318
01:04:40.400 --> 01:04:41.079
get back in the ring.

1319
01:04:44.239 --> 01:04:46.199
I think he's been a little bit more flexible about

1320
01:04:46.199 --> 01:04:49.119
that than anyone, because I think he had discussions with

1321
01:04:49.320 --> 01:04:52.760
Soraya slash Page about getting back in the ring before

1322
01:04:52.800 --> 01:04:55.320
she had I think she had said she signed with AW.

1323
01:04:57.760 --> 01:05:00.280
I think he would doctor try. I do. I think

1324
01:05:00.360 --> 01:05:02.679
if Nigel was able to get cleared, I think he

1325
01:05:02.679 --> 01:05:03.599
would give the okay.

1326
01:05:04.599 --> 01:05:08.280
But and and you know, we're getting Nigel and Brian Danielson,

1327
01:05:08.400 --> 01:05:11.000
so I think I'm okay with it. But yeah, by

1328
01:05:11.039 --> 01:05:12.360
the way, I meant to ask you this, and I.

1329
01:05:12.320 --> 01:05:14.039
Know this is a little bit off topic, but what

1330
01:05:14.079 --> 01:05:15.400
do you think of Joe Tesataur so far?

1331
01:05:16.440 --> 01:05:18.679
Uh? Interesting? Because I wanted to ask you about that

1332
01:05:18.719 --> 01:05:20.920
because I know you're more the college football guy than

1333
01:05:20.920 --> 01:05:28.239
I am. I think it's he's not he's not there yet, right.

1334
01:05:28.320 --> 01:05:31.039
I really enjoyed Michael Cole's work lately. I liked that

1335
01:05:31.079 --> 01:05:33.679
he was showing a little bit of personalent personality, and

1336
01:05:33.719 --> 01:05:37.840
I think Test Tour is a little bit too structured,

1337
01:05:38.480 --> 01:05:40.880
unseasoned lacking a little bit of personality.

1338
01:05:41.960 --> 01:05:44.480
My my thing so far is he's better than add

1339
01:05:44.559 --> 01:05:48.719
Non Verk was. Oh yeah, uh he's I think he's

1340
01:05:48.800 --> 01:05:52.119
as good as oh, the Scottish kid.

1341
01:05:52.679 --> 01:05:53.679
I'm blanking on his name.

1342
01:05:53.920 --> 01:05:57.119
Oh yeah, what the hell was his name? Irish Irish kid.

1343
01:05:57.239 --> 01:06:00.280
Irish kid. He's better than him. My only take on

1344
01:06:00.320 --> 01:06:00.719
it is.

1345
01:06:01.119 --> 01:06:04.519
You can tell he's watched a lot of old wrestling

1346
01:06:04.599 --> 01:06:08.679
commentating leading into this, because at times it does sound

1347
01:06:08.719 --> 01:06:11.960
a little hokey and corny and a little bit of that,

1348
01:06:12.079 --> 01:06:16.639
you know, early nineties wrestling style. But I think the

1349
01:06:16.679 --> 01:06:19.880
guy is one of the best football commentaries I've ever heard,

1350
01:06:21.039 --> 01:06:26.000
and his vocabulary is very strong. I think with a

1351
01:06:26.039 --> 01:06:29.000
little more time, he will be really good at this.

1352
01:06:29.519 --> 01:06:32.239
So I'm giving him a little more leegue way than

1353
01:06:32.280 --> 01:06:35.199
maybe some of the past, you know, play by play

1354
01:06:35.239 --> 01:06:36.320
guys they've had on Raw.

1355
01:06:37.039 --> 01:06:40.840
From what I've read, I believes he's actually a legit

1356
01:06:40.960 --> 01:06:43.760
wrestling fan, which I think is a little bit debatable

1357
01:06:43.760 --> 01:06:47.800
because he didn't seem to fully know who Brett Hart

1358
01:06:47.840 --> 01:06:52.320
was on Raw Monday Night. But from what I've read,

1359
01:06:52.760 --> 01:06:54.840
the belief is he is a wrestling fan.

1360
01:06:55.760 --> 01:06:58.639
Yeah, but ad Non Vurk was a wrestling fan and

1361
01:06:58.800 --> 01:07:02.360
was just wasn't good Sometimes, like being a wrestling fan

1362
01:07:02.400 --> 01:07:06.360
can hurt you in this true because you start playing

1363
01:07:06.440 --> 01:07:09.400
into what you grew up listening to, and sometimes it

1364
01:07:09.400 --> 01:07:12.119
doesn't fit your natural voice.

1365
01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:14.159
Yeah, not everybody could be Jim Ross.

1366
01:07:14.639 --> 01:07:17.000
Yeah, and sometimes when you're trying to be a Jim

1367
01:07:17.079 --> 01:07:19.239
Ross or even back of the day at Tony Shavanni,

1368
01:07:20.360 --> 01:07:23.840
it comes off sounding weird to me. I think testatory

1369
01:07:24.280 --> 01:07:27.400
him and Barrett already have a good chemistry already, so

1370
01:07:27.480 --> 01:07:31.159
I'm not hating the Raw broadcast. I just think it

1371
01:07:31.280 --> 01:07:33.800
takes a little time to kind of get that chemistry

1372
01:07:33.840 --> 01:07:36.960
down and get that natural vibe. I think at times

1373
01:07:37.000 --> 01:07:40.280
he's kind of forcing it to kind of play into

1374
01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:41.760
like the stuff he grew up listening to.

1375
01:07:42.159 --> 01:07:43.920
Wade is doing a really good job and he helps

1376
01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:45.840
him out a lot. Or as Gunther called him on.

1377
01:07:45.880 --> 01:07:47.960
Raw, still, yeah, I got that.

1378
01:07:48.440 --> 01:07:51.199
Which is his real name, Stu Barrett. All right, with

1379
01:07:51.320 --> 01:07:53.239
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as well. Until next week. For Doctrey Franklin, I'm Jeff Peck.

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This has been the star over to this show.