Oct. 17, 2024
Are we optimistic or pessimistic for this AEW angle? | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #766 – 10/17/24
On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:
- -- We recap & review "AEW WrestleDream!"
- -- Was Bryan Danielson's wish to drop the title to Jon Moxley the right call?
- -- Are we optimistic or pessimistic about the Blackpool Combat Club taking...
On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:
- -- We recap & review "AEW WrestleDream!"
- -- Was Bryan Danielson's wish to drop the title to Jon Moxley the right call?
- -- Are we optimistic or pessimistic about the Blackpool Combat Club taking over AEW angle?
- -- Is an original Bloodline reunion brewing?
- -- We are very excited about the character turn for this long time favorite of ours!
- -- And we look at the Top 10 list for the PWI Women 250!
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It's still welcome everybody. Welcome to this week's edition The
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Star Real Do Show, episode number seven hundred and sixty
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six for October seventeenth, twenty twenty four. Welcome to this
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week's edition of Ask Our Team You. I am one
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after the show, I am Jeff Pack joined every single
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week from my paste Only, Doctor Trey Franklin. Doctor Trey,
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did you reach your own Wressell dream?
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My friend? Oh man, I wish i'd know. You're like,
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there's a really dirty joke I want to leave in there.
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And I don't know if I want to say it
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or not, but uh yeah, I mean five and a
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half hours of Wressell dream. At least it didn't end
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up wet. I guess, I don't know.
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Yeah, very true. It did not end up in the ocean.
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That's what I assumed doctor Trey is talking about. Welcome
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one and all to this week's edition of SRTU. Let's
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get right into it. Doctor Trey was this past Saturday
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from Tacoma Dome and Tacoma, Washington, aaw Wrestle Dream recap
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and review. I hate to point this out, but I will.
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To me, it was very noticeable that they had tarped
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off a couple of the seats, Doctor Trey. I mean,
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I think there was a shot in the corner of
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the building where you could see the black curtain that
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was blocking the upper deck that was not filled. Again,
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this trend of attendance for aw is not great, even
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for a pay per view.
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Yeah, and you would think with it being where it was,
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and with who's on the card and everything else, like
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they get a little closer to the capacity, that this
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might be one of those things where like, and I
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think we've talked about the past, like maybe you step
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back and go into some smaller venues just to kind
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of create that energy that you kind of feel like
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you're lacking when you're in a bigger arena. You're not
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packing it out. Maybe take a page out of the
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nxt BO book and just go, hey, we can't fill
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out ten thousand in this stadium. Maybe we go down
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to five thousand states, you know, five thousand sex stadiums.
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But yeah, it's noticable, especially for people that look for
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this stuff. Like when you start seeing the curtains or
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the tarps, you're just like, guys, that just it makes
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it feel like you're just you know, kind of drowning
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for lack of a better turn.
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Yeah, there's gonna be some stubbornness that's gone on with
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all the rest that may peek up and down here
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throughout the recap and this week's edition of the show,
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because I'm like getting old school Vince mc mann vibes
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from some of the management in AW lately in the
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sense of stubbornness, not all the other crap. Let's get
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to the first match here, as Brian Cage defeats Atlantis
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Junior to win the ROH World Television Championship. We both
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had Atlantis Junior in this one. This was a surprisingly
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fun match that folks should check out if they haven't already.
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I only say that because I don't know much about
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Atlantis Junior and that was a fun one.
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I mean I thought Atlantis Junior. I think at last
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I thought he was a casino. Then this week I
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thought he was the son of Alanis Morisset, but neither
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one is correct. He's actually a fantastic little wrestler and
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matches like this make you kind of remember how good
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Brian Cage can be at times. Just a fun match
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and give her Brian Cage. And then we saw a
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little transition for Brian Cage on Dynamite this week, ending
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up in the Don Kallas family, so hey, maybe, and
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then announcing that he just won. He wins a singles title,
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but him and Archer after tag team titles now too,
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So a little confusing on that, but hey, good for
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him that they're actually gonna use him a little bit,
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because this is a guy that was a former t
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and a world champion and has been has fallen by
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the wayside since then.
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Yeah, that's part of the creative issues that I have
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with a w don Kallas family comes out Brian Cage
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is with him, even commentaries like well this is surprise
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Don KALs saying breaking news. Would like to see something
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maybe at the pay per view backstage vignette instead of
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just coming out there and saying, yeah, he's with the
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family now, like some sort of backstory as to he's
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there and what's what's his association with now the former
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Cage of Agony. Are they still together? Still friends? It's
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kind of weird. And a j defeats Harley Cameron. We
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did not predict this one. Harley Cameron's had some really
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good offense and looks to be a solid entering worker
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and a J has really improved since returning from stardom.
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Do't trade your thoughts on this one.
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Yeah, that was my big takeaway was I can't remember
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who was I saw online. I commented on how much
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she had improved since coming back for you them, I've
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been Osprey saying how much Anna J had gotten better.
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He did say that from Japan you can catch Yeah,
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so's she's really stepped your game of Harley Cameron. She's enjoyable.
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To me, this was like I looked, I watched his match,
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I went, this is gonna be a five and a
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half hour show because there's no need for this match
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to be on this show. But hey, it's a good
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showcase for Ana J and Harley on the stage at least.
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But you could have put this.
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Match on collision or rampage and saved me fifteen minutes.
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Do you claim defeats MXM col election? We both had
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the acclaiming this one. Is it weird to see a
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WWE develop gimmick get rebooted in aw with MXM Collection
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and then Rico working together as well. Does it also
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feel like the Acclaimed need a fresh coat of paint
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or refresh Maybe that was tease Doctor tre on Wednesday,
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as MVP hands Max cast the card tries to recruit
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the acclaimed, Anthony Bowen says, no, Max Casser, how does
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interest piqued a little bit your thoughts on this one?
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Yeah, I mean it's interesting.
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I love that XM is really getting a chance to
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kind of showcase their stuff on AD because I thought
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this woul could you know, by the end of their
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run in WWE, I thought this could have been the
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updated version of Billy and Chuck, and seeing Rico paired
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with him at Wrestled Dream I thought was fantastic.
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The tie into Billy makes sense.
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It's one of those things where like every now then
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you see a gimmick that you're like, man, this has potential,
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but it just never fully comes to fruition.
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I I really enjoyed mxim so And does the acclaim
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need a fresh coot of paint? Maybe not.
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This is a little bit taken from maybe what they
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were doing with the street profits in with you know,
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Lashly and all that stuff like teasing a little friction,
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but it never comes to pass.
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So, uh, fresh coat of pain. I don't think they need
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a fresh coat of paint.
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I just think they need to get booked better because
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one month they're feuding with the Bucks for the World
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Tag Team titles, and then they're you know, basically opening
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shows and pre shows and everything else a month later.
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So it's just it's weird the the pecking order booking
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of AW at times, and I think that's why we
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get frustrated.
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All right, Doctor Trey. The next one here is Orange Cassidy,
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Kyle O'Riley and the Outrunners defeating the Dark Order in
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the Premiere Athletes and an eight man tag team match.
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We did not predict this one. Uh. The Premier Athlete
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stick of asking the crowd not to say stuck sucks
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when they want them to say Premier Athletes rule is
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very corny. Uh. The Outrunners are so much fun and
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need to be pushed more as the crowd is digging them.
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It reminds me of the ascension of the Acclaim when
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they started a breakthrough in AW as well. Those were
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kind of my notes on this one, Dot Trey, your thoughts, Yeah.
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My notes were basically, once again, here's a match that
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really had no bill to it.
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We're putting it on the show.
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It's an hate man tag. Do we really need this
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on Wrestle Dream or can we say this or something else?
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The outrunners are super over with the crowd. I don't
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hate the Premier Athlete stick because I do it.
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It's really easy to do. It's really easy to get
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some heat on it.
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But once again, just going off of what we saw
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at this show and then what you see on Dynamite,
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the Dark Order here are booked as heels, but yet
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they're coming to the defense of AW on Dynamite a
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few days later, like have Like this just illustrates once again,
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like guys have a plan when you're doing stuff like
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this and go, hey, they were just bad guys three
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days ago. Now we're featuring them as good guys here
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coming to save a like for one.
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Here's the thing.
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I'm just glad they remember who the Dark Order was
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and put them on the show because I love Redolds
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and Silver. I think they've been the most underutilized tandem
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and AW for five years now, so I just wish
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they would use it more and in better positions.
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I'm glad you brought that up, because yes, on Wednesday,
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they're acting as baby faces. On Saturday Night they're acting
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as heels. Sidebar if you saw dynamite Doctor Tred. Did
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you see John Silver chase the Blackpool Combat Club pickup
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truck and the crowd laugh?
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Yeah, because for one can he could he even get
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inside the truck? I mean, I love Silver Bay's a
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little short.
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Yeah, that was That was strange. All right. Now let's
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get to the main card here. J White defeats Hangman
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Adam Page. We both had Adam Page in this one.
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J White needed this win over Hangman to re establish
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himself as a world title contender in AW. I love
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that they focus on Hangman's knee and it played a
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big role in the decision for this match. This is
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the type of match that AW needs have a competitive
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top of the men's card, so they have a top
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of a competitive top of the men's roster card. This
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was a great opener, Dog Tree, your thoughts here is
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j whit to feed teng Man on a Page?
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A great match, great opener. J White needed to win.
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These are all things you said. Really enjoy the match.
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I do like that it kind of you know, it
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was Hangman's knee that kind of did a man and
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not some you know, chicanery, some kind of dirty tricks.
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My only issue with this is Swerve is scheduled to
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appear on this show at this point.
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Correct, Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely is.
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And here's the man that burnt down your house and
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dropped your head on a cinder block, and you're not
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coming out for this match. Like that drives me nuts
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because like once again, like you're basically the baby Faces
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basis saying that guy whopped my ass and burnt my
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house down, I got nothing new with him that.
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It just stuff like that makes no sense to me.
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So great match, It's just I wouldn't even have Swerve
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appear at Wrestl Dream. I would save him for Dynamite
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just for that reason, because to me, if I'm sore,
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strickling and that man burnt down my house and dropping
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my head on a cinder block, I'm still coming for
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revenge if I know he's in the building.
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And they didn't do any of that. So that was
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my one knock on this match.
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Yeah, that was something I noticed, is like all I
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could think of was on Dynamite when they did the
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backstage segment with Nana and and Swerve and then send
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him the match for Shelton Benjamin in two weeks, I
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was like, how is he not going after Hangman right now, like,
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how do we in a normal sense do we just
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like forget Okay, I lost, I took the l I'm
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gonna go into retreat mode. I mean that's not good
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for a babyface in a from you know, go they don't.
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They're not gonna get the revenge against the heel, so
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they're just are they pausing this this feud? I mean
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it just that that blue my mind, Doctor Trey. So
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it's funny that you brought that up. Something that found
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funny as well on Dynamite. I don't know if you
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noticed this during the main event match Jay White taking
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on Christian which he lost. Jay White, but at some
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point Kip Saban comes up on the apron and you
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hear Christian Sell say not now fuck And at that
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point Hangman came down to do the spot. So the
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trigger must have been in that match. I'm gonna go
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in the corner, do the spear, you get up on
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the apron. Once you go up on the apron, that's
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to come down. Kip Sabing like retreats hang out on
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Page hides and then they run the angle as the
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swerve of strickling stuff. And I hate to call out botches,
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