Cena’s Final RAW, WarGames Heats Up & AEW Full Gear Preview! | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #823 – 11/20/25

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It's still real to be damaged!

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[Music]

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Welcome everybody! Welcome to this week's Edith Shtolrila Show.

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Episode 823 from November 20th, 2025.

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We'll give to your AWF full-year preview edition of SRTU.

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I am one after show. I am Jeff Peck. Join every single week for my close to one of my Dr. Trent Franklin, Dr. Tre.

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It is no more that John Cena's on Monday Night Raw, my friend.

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Yeah, that's it's still... I don't... it's still hasn't sunk in. It's still like...

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There's part of me that goes, "Yeah, I know he says he's retired, but we know how wrestlers are."

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Sting retired and then showed up. Flare retired showed up. They all retire.

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But there's a part of me that goes, "I think Cena's serious, so like the fact that you'll never hear Rapidude in the music hit and him run out,

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that Peck will never see that again on Monday Night Raw, it's sad and it's disappointing, but then it's also just very appreciative of all the years we had,

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John Cena shouting out the cameraman, "Let's go to work and then sprinting down to the ring."

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So a couple things there. That's what is said in the beginning of the song?

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Yeah, I was just saying it's rapper dude.

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It's okay, I'm looking at it right now on Apple Music. It's... it says "Curr Amadou."

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Amadou. AMA DOU.

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I thought it literally said "Grapper dude." So it looked... I also thought like...

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You know what Amadou?

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I don't... like what's a curr Amadou? That sounds like a crazy Pokemon that you don't tell anybody you found.

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Amadou can refer to several things. This is according to Google AI.

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Most prominently, Amadou, Bhagyoko, the guitarist and one half of the Grammy nominee, Milan, musical duo Amadou and Miriam.

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What? That can't be right.

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Yes, because that's who John Cena, well for when he sampled that bit, that came from another song.

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But yeah, I'm sure they're shouting out some random guitar player that no one's ever heard.

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Well, they won the Grammy Award at one time, so I've never heard of him. He did die in April, so RIP.

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But yeah, I was like when you said "Rapidude." I was like, "That's what they're saying?"

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I don't know. That's...

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What did you think they were saying?

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I never thought of it. I got to be honest with you. I'm totally honest.

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No, wait. I know Jeff Pack when you were 21 years old, that song would hit and you would just...

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You would hit that song. You had words that were coming out of your mouth.

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I don't... I feel like anything right now is going to be overshadowed by what I know it is, at least from Apple Music.

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I think it was... I always thought it was Amadou, which still makes no sense. But that's like rap lyrics in general, right?

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Yeah, I mean, it's gotten worse over the years with mumble rap and...

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Oh, tell me about it. That's right.

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Now this one here, this is from Genius.com says, "Curr, Yap, a dude."

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Yap a dude, okay. Let me say here. The time is now. This is perfect for the podcast.

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The time is now lyrics. Let's see.

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I'm on Genius 2, so that was the first one that popped up. Let's go to A to Z lyrics.

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So you went on Genius. I went to go to A to Z. It doesn't even say it.

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It just goes right into John Cena.

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Now, Music's match says what you said. Curr, Amadou.

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And then Reddit... I got to look at Reddit real quick. This is going to be the fun one here.

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One says, "After Burr part, someone shoved something before the trumpet's head. What are they saying for some reason?"

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I always thought he said Alberto, like Del Rio. But that doesn't make sense.

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One says, "Alpha Dome, it's Apple Bone." It's not Abado, it's Amadou. It's from the sample of Annie Up,

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which is a part of Genius theme, which is where I knew it from.

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Which refers to an unarmed man who was shot dead by police. His last name was Amadou.

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Amadou Diallo.

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Yeah, and then somebody says Burr Alfa Due, somebody else said "Yabadoo."

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And I'm the only point, apparently. I'm the only person who thought I said "Rapper Dude."

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It might be because of the old video game. Was it "Pirappa the Rapper"?

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Oh my god. Now you're really sending all that. I love that game, Pat, with the rapper.

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PlayStation... I think PlayStation. It wasn't even PlayStation.

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Yeah. It was the one that... Well, okay. We're going down a rabbit hole. Nonetheless, John Cena's final appearance on Monday Night Raw,

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this past Monday, Matt Sysquartgarten, New York City, New York.

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Dr. Terry, we are officially down to two more appearances now.

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So, our rival series War Game, where John Cena will be defending the Intercontinental Championship,

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gets Dominic Mysterio and Dom's hometown.

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And then the final match on Saturday night's main event in Washington, D.C. on Saturday, December 13th.

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We've been saying it each and every time. It is feeling real now.

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It was a hell of a reaction from the New York City crowd, which you expected.

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They were having a lot of fun. Cena was having a lot of fun. I think they went like maybe 15-20 minutes at opening segment before they got to the match.

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I got to be honest with you. Final Raw match that he works is a trio's match where he's tagging with Rey Mysterio and Shemus,

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not on the Judgment Day. It felt like his teammates were straight out of like WWE 2011.

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Somebody mentioned, I don't know if it was a wrestler that said this.

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I want to say I feel like it was CM Punk, but I feel like it wasn't.

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Nonetheless, it felt like a house show-like match, main event match,

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where Cena was tagging with Mysterio and Shemus against the Judgment Day as his final Raw match

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and basically keeping healthy and on the sidelines. They don't want to run into any injuries in these final 101 matches

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where God forbid something happens against Dom, God forbid something happens in the final match.

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And this entire farewell tour is completely messed up. That's what it felt like to me.

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What was your take away there? Because I think when we're like, what is this final Raw TV match going to be?

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This is not what I had on my bucket list or dream list of final matches on Monday Night Raw.

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It kind of felt like you were playing the WWE video game and you have the Judgment Day, the computer selected,

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and you picked John Cena and hit random for partners. But not in a bad way.

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Like he has history with Rey, he has history with Shemus. It was nice to see those guys altogether.

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And yeah, like that way you could protect John, you know, heading in those last few matches.

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But I mean, Shemus had a good little match with JD McDonough a few weeks ago. Dom and Rey have history.

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You know, so it all kind of fit. But yeah, it was kind of like, hey, let's play it safe.

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Let's let MSG, you know, cheer John on. Let the other guys take do most of the work.

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And then John come in at the end. Yeah, it was a very safe match to put him in to get MSG happy,

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but still protect him for the last two matches as he winds this thing down because nobody wants to see John Cena hurt.

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And then not able to face the winner of the tournament that is literally designed to see who faces him at the end.

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Yeah, that would be really bad. Yeah, it had how show like feels. I think the crowd was still red hot.

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It definitely felt like watching in home. I was like, oh, man, this is kind of lame.

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Especially with like punk two weeks ago saying if John Cena wants to shout out the World of the Way championship, come get it.

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I was like, I think there's a door open here. And it could be a special 101 match. It reminds me of Edge versus Shemus.

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And what now is potentially edge is final WWE match in Massage Square Garden.

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Like there was history there between those guys. And that's what Edge wanted to do.

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I would have been even fine with like scene versus Shemus one last time. See a versus Miz. Something along those lines to give us a 101 match.

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It felt like a house show. It felt like it was protecting Cena, making sure he wasn't gassed out, got hurt in any type of way.

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Nonetheless, it was a really cool moment appearance wise, crowd wise, everybody was hyped up. They love John Cena.

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Punk gave him a nice close at the end of the show that now is made its way over to the YouTube channels and social media for WWE.

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I saw it like early Tuesday morning of Cena, excuse me, punk giving props to Cena, looking up at the lights and wanting to play the song out for everybody as they left Massage Square Garden as Raw was off the air at that point.

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I thought that was pretty cool, nice little tip of the cap. And the closer we get, it's like the more nostalgic he gets, the more, you know, there's definitely selfish sadness in the entire thing.

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I was a huge Cena fan. I would say when he was coming out there in 2002 to 0506, then once he became kind of like the next all-cogon trail off a little bit, probably fell more as a fan of like CM Punk.

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But this is an error. This is a chapter coming to a close for John Cena. And it's another chapter, Dr. Trey, by seeing his final appearance, at least as an active competitor on Monday Night Raw, come to a close this past Monday.

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So I ask you, Dr. Trey, when we look back at Cena's career on Monday Night Raw, what are some of your favorite moments that come to mind from Cena's chapter on the red brand?

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Like that, you kind of call me off Garnier, though, and something like I'm going through. Like it was weird. I liked the rivalry with John Lauren Nidis, which I know people dislike, but for some reason, like I think everybody universally just reviled John Lauren Nidis.

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So the fact that you had those interactions, I actually enjoyed those quite a bit. The match with Shamus, when he was with Shamus won the first World title, and Jesse Vincere was there, the, the, the, I came away. It wasn't the breakthrough.

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There was a breakthrough battle royal.

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Yes, and then Shamus won and then had the match with Cena. You know, like that was a big one. Even Cena, like the one night tournament for the World title, and then Cena beats Ray at the end.

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Like some of those ones are ones that stand out just because they may have been great and they may have been shitty in some ways.

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Oh, there was a hand. There was one with, I think, Cena and DX together on raw. I thought it was cool because I lifelong DX fan.

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The US Open tournament was on raw, so the match was Cesaro. The match was star dust was on raw. That was actually pretty good as well. Like there's, I'd have to sit down and kind of go through and rank them all, but those are ones that just kind of pop off the top of my head.

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And none of them are actually great. Like you're probably going to have a list that are way better than anything I have. I only have two. Okay, what do you got?

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So my two is Cena's raw debut June 6, 2005 during Chris Jericho's highlight reel when he was drafted from SmackDown to raw.

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I think that it's his first moment, but it's one of his most memorable moments. If not the most memorable is the time on raw.

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Like that's something I could still see like him coming out like the music plane Jericho's reaction of like a holy shit and then Cena coming out like both arms up holding the title people losing their minds.

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Because at that period of time it was Batista was running raw. He was running SmackDown and for a very brief period of time they were both on the same brand the next SmackDown Batista moved over to SmackDown.

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But I think that moment is very first maybe his most memorable moment. Yeah, because he was obviously he was the hottest star in wrestling at that moment.

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Yes, and there was nobody more popular, nobody more. He jumped Batista. I think Batista was supposed to be the guy he jumped Batista.

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Yeah, and that was when that's when you knew he had jumped Batista because raw was the flagship show. And when you're like hey we're moving the SmackDown champ to raw and eventually the raw champ with the SmackDown you kind of knew that oh Cena's the guy.

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Like that was the cementing of him being the focal point of the cup. Now you didn't know how long we could last because we had a really good crop of young stars at that time with Cena Batista.

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And then Brock Lesnar came around not too long after that or right around at the same time. So you know you kind of knew like hey this is the guy that they're building around for at least the next five years and it just ended become in the next 20 years.

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Well actually this this moment here led to Jericho turning from baby face to heel. I think there was a triple threat match between Cena, Christian and Jericho because Christian was like calling out Cena for a period of time and I think Christian got moved to SmackDown.

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And then Jericho ended up turning heel and then they had a great feud Cena and Jericho for a a a desaparative time. That was a really cool moment.

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The debut there was John Cena joining Monday Night Raw back in June 6 2005. My favorite match on raw Dr. Trey was actually my 2013 match of the year.

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John Cena versus CM Punk February 25th 2013. The winner of that match would take on the rock at WrestleMania 29. That was the whole purpose of that match. And that is a classic go out of your way. That's like one of those raw matches.

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It reminds me of like 123 kid Brett Hart from July 11th 1994. Like this is the type of match that you're like you have to go out best raw matches. This has to be on your list.

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That was a classic match between those two guys. Yeah, it was a great match and like that that point I think you and I might be the same boat. You and I had shifted from being Cena fans to punk fans.

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And I was completely irritated with the product because they had taken the belt off punk, put it on rock. And then now you get Cena kind of stepping over punk to have that match at rock again.

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And you're like, damn, punk just had this like really long grade. What like 15 month, 16 month long run. And you know, now it's like, oh, he just got pushed all the way down the car because it's WrestleMania season.

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And you know, rocks going to have this spot.

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When you look back at his career, and I don't remember if we talked about this, you know, about a month ago when his final Smackdown appearance happened. What do you look back as Cena wrestler on?

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Was it on raw or Smackdown? How how would you define his career?

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I would say it was weird. I don't know. I would say he was a raw guy because the longest part of his run was on raw. Like I think I was a fan of him more when he was on Smackdown.

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But just the length of time he was on Monday Night Raw being, you know, the flag bearer, if you will, for WWE on the flagship show.

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Kind of makes him a raw guy, but you know, those early days on Smackdown of ruthless aggression and then stuff with you B squared leading into like the cartlito angle with him getting stabbed and you know, winning the US title.

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Then eventually beating big show to win the world title like those early Smackdown days. I'm super fond of. But just for longevity to me, he's still he's a Monday Night Raw guy.

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Yeah, I think my heart wants me to figure he's a Smackdown guy, but my head tells me he's a raw guy.

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Yeah, another great raw match. It just popped on my head. Dr. Trevi Ironman match against Shawn Michaels in the UK.

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Yeah, I want to say that was like a couple weeks after their WrestleMania match, which was a WrestleMania 22, I believe. That's a classic match as well.

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Yeah, some of those matches, I mean, it's one of these like, it's almost, it's like pick your favorite Ric Flair match, you know, because it's like the career is so long.

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Like your brain goes, there's just a couple like ones that really stand out in your mind and then you start going through the list, you're like, oh man, that one's fantastic. Oh man, that one's great.

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Like I like the you like I mentioned are like the US open stuff. Like I really love that stuff because that was about him trying to elevate, helping try to elevate other guys.

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And that match with Cesaro, I still like that was just a fantastic match with the Iron Man match with Shawn. That was also one of those ones where like Shawn is my favorite all time wrestler.

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And then seeing me there the scene of going and you're doing the Iron Man stuff and then like I was like, that's just really good and makes you forget like people still to this day, not seen it for being a five move wrestler.

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And you go back and watch some of those matches. You're like, no, this dude could go when he needed to. It's just that the majority of time Vince didn't need him to show what a great wrestler he was.

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But when he's in the rings with the Dolph Zigglers of the world is Shawn Michaels, you know, the Kurt Angles, he could step his game up and compete with some of the best in ring workers of all time when called upon.

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Speaking of one and elevate people, Dr. Trey, that is the whole purpose of this last time is now tournament that's currently taking shape on raw and smack down over the last two weeks.

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I believe the first round wraps up this upcoming Friday on Smackdown.

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Two participants, the mystery participants have been since revealed and I loved that these were the mystery participants on Friday night, Zach Ryder made his return to WWE for the first time on the main roster.

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He was on NXT two weeks prior to Smack Hardona. He took a loss to LA night, Dolph Ziggler making return this past Monday, taking a loss to Solo, Sikoa.

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How awesome and poetic was that that they put Zach Ryder and Dolph Ziggler in this tournament here, surprise appearances?

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Yeah, it's really cool. I mean, it's not the surprise appears. I think everybody wanted because that guy's under an AW contract.

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But to get two guys that we've seen in TNA and we know the working relationship they have with WWE and NXT, it made a lot of sense.

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And it's a little bit of giving Zach Ryder his flowers for how much he's progressed since leaving WWE.

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Dolph Ziggler a little bit of love just for how much he meant to the company.

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I don't know if Dolph will ever get his flowers as being like, you know, in the upper echelon WWE Hall of Famer category, but for what he did for so many guys, you know,

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Cena included is just, it was just really cool to see those guys back. And I don't know, but I love that Ziggler wore his TNA jackets.

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It's like out there, but did all his WWE stuff. Like, that's really cool. It was really great. And it's not only in Omar's and John Cena, but it's also John Cena showing some love back to some guys that he felt were underappreciated by WWE in their run.

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Yeah, it was really cool that they put those guys in the tournament. Do you want to see one or both these guys back in the company though?

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I mean, you'd love to see Zach Ryder and Matt Cardona back because his wife's there, you know, and how much fun would that be even though look, I'm not gonna lie, the Chelsea Green Ethan page stuff, I love that stuff up every single week.

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You know, I'd love to see Matt and Chelsea together in WWE because we have so many married couples and you can always tie storylines into it, not to mention they're just great performers.

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Dolph Ziggler to me is still one of the most underrated performers in the last 15-20 years. Just basically got sidetracked by some freak injuries during his main event level push, but for just one of the best sellers, best performers in the ring, I'd love to see him both back in the company.

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But I also like what they do now with the stuff they're doing on the indies, the stuff they're doing with TNA, helping the younger guys elevate their games. And we're seeing some of those younger guys, the Joe Handries of the World, you know, for all intensifiers of the Mike Stanzler, who might be coming to WWE soon.

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Like, it's because of guys like Matt Cardona and Dolph Ziggler helping elevate those guys up to take notice from NXT WWE to bring them aboard onto their shows as well.

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Yeah, nice surprise this week again, Zach Ryder and Dolph Ziggler making surprise appearances in the last time is now tournament.

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Before we get to more WWE news, I just want to make mention here that our Patreon page, patreon.com/srtupodcast, as a holiday special and thank you to everybody who is supporting our podcast all this time.

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Dr. Trevor, are you going to say something? Yes, you and I, the reason I wasn't here last week, the new house is coming. So I'm in the process of like packing, moving, all this other crazy is going on.

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The new house, Jeff, will actually have, I will have an office. Wow.

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I will have a place to go in, set up my laptop and actually start pumping out some extra content for the Patreon page as well. That will be coming here in the month of December going into January as well. So stay tuned for that.

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But I didn't have a side question for you before we move off the Zach, Matt Cardone has said Zach Rider was dead. Is Zach Rider a zombie? Like did he come from back from the dead?

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Like I don't know how that whole thing works because he said he was dead that we were never going to see Zach Rider again and then we saw Zach Rider. We even heard, woo, woo, you know it.

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Which if you remember correctly was one of my daughter's first catchphrases she ever learned, which he was like four years old. So is Zach Rider a zombie? Do we have to cut his head off or something? I don't know how this works.

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I saw him doing an interview with Sam Roberts and he was asked that and he kind of laughed clearly things have changed for him. He wants back in WWE. I mean he was very, very clear about that. He's like, I want to return to the company.

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I think probably the way things are now is a little bit more kind to him than what they were under previous regimes. So he seems to have turned turned around on this entire thing, Dr. Tray.

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I'm a married perspective. It's a lot easier to see your wife more frequently than not. So he says he wants back at the company. It could be a one time deal. It may not.

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And I think all those Zach Riders dead stuff is now put to rest. So Zach Rider is alive and well as we saw this past Friday on Smackdown.

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Keeping up here, Dr. Tray with WWE war games matches. They are finally taking shape as Roman Reigns joins CMP on Cody Rhodes and the Usos on one team and Brock Lesnar joins Braun Breaker, Bronson Reed, Logan Paul and Drew McIntyre on the other team is this the most star-studded men's war game ever in Roller-Russell Entertainment.

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I'm starting to think so. Although the only difference between Roman's team this year and Roman's team is last year is you subbed out Sammy's name for Cody Rhodes, right? It's based on the same team.

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Yeah, it is. So it's the same team from last year just training out Cody for Sammy, which we thought Cody might be on the team last year. So but to have your two probably most potential, actually probably three most potential future main eventers in Bronson Reed, Braun Breaker and Logan Paul on the opposite team along with Brock Lesnar and Drew McIntyre.

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Yeah, it's pretty stacked. I can't remember. Like if you're looking on paper, the weakest link is what Jimmy Usos probably. Probably. Yeah.

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And then I don't know who on the heel team you would think would be the weakest link maybe Bronson Reed, maybe Logan Paul, but like there's not really, I mean on Roman's team you have four former or current world champions.

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On Paul Heyman's team you have two, but you have the three guys who will probably be world champions at least multiple times in the next five years. It's crazy how star studded that is given the current.

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On paper climate we have in W.W. I mean the only other person that you would think would be like maybe on resume wise that she means maybe a Damien Priest. He's got a world title run maybe a Finn Balor.

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But outside of that like everybody else like these are your top guys in W.W. Loading into this match. So there's no spin off secondary title match really where you're like, oh like we saw last word Cody or like, oh, Cody could be in the war games match.

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And to be great, but Cody's guys don't stand alone match like this match really is I mean what so like let's say you got punk roads, Lesnar, Roman, that's drew that's five Hall of Famers J and Jimmy are probably Hall of Famers is a tag team maybe not in singles runs.

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Yeah, like when 80% of your match is already established Hall of Famers, that's a pretty good damn good sign. Yeah, it's it's pretty good on paper. It's pretty good when you look at the graphic.

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Obviously, I think the things that are missing for me is I would love to see and see and again this one, especially with Brock Lesnar being in there because now with two shows to go.

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That whole rest of the loser thing makes zero sense now other than just like Lesnar just being the shit out of Cena. I thought there would have been a follow up. I think we even point into this match as a potential way to do that.

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That's not happening now unless you know they run this Jimmy usos injured behind the scenes angle. I hate to pick on Jimmy, but it's just unfortunately the way that they've been booked and like seen as like I'll fill in even though he's like been in a match already with dumb stereo.

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Like it's it's not changing so pretty star so to match really looking for the men's match. Dr. Terry switching over to the women.

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It is Charlotte back with the replay EOS guy in Alexa Bliss. It looks like AJ Lee could be joining them to and his Becky Lynch next to follow if AJ Lee sides on team Ria and EO to join Oscar Kyrie Nye Jacks and last legend.

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We're booking on the Charlotte Flair stuff from Smackdown to raw Dr. Trey. AJ Lee is in the fold. I would imagine if AJ Lee is in the fold Becky Lynch will be on the opposite side.

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Thoughts here so far on the women's war games match.

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So I miss the part of raw where Charlotte came out what what.

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What led Charlotte's are running out with the windows. Dick well on Smackdown she said I can't trust really Ripley and decided to leave the team.

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She came to the aid of them because they were getting their asses kicked.

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It was so it was like that was literally how it went said no I can't team with you walked out and then walked in to save them.

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And I guess she's back on the team.

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Okay, because I'm trying I was it's confusing the trap. Yeah with the traveling and everything else I haven't been able to actually sit down.

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I'm having to read results and try to piece up together. I'm like.

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So what happened in three days that made her go fuck I gotta save these I gotta save Ria.

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Yeah, because I hate her so much and I just don't want Ria to break her nose again.

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Like I don't know what like I don't know the rationale behind it now if they were just beating down just Alexa.

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And she came in and she's like my love for Lexi is more than my hatred for EO and Ria.

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Okay, I'll I'm doing it for Lexi.

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You know, okay, I'll buy into it. But otherwise I'm like.

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Yeah, this is like this is Brock beating scene it like it just doesn't make sense in the long grants.

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He was like, why did you even have the segment on Smackdown?

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You could have just had an icy stare and just been like.

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You know, I don't like you. I don't trust you.

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Not just and then walk out like you could just been like.

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I think you're a bitch and I don't like you so.

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But I love Lexi more and I got Lexi's back like you could have done something like that and been fine.

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But to walk out and then run back in three days later to make a save doesn't make a ton of sense.

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Yeah, it it really makes no sense quite honestly.

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Dr. Trey it it was confusing and those are the things for anybody who thinks that we don't bash WWE booking.

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I think that is a very strong case of being like what the hell we're trying to do here.

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Yeah, can we agree though that Charlotte's booking since Mania has been a little weird like they don't know exactly.

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The pairing with Lexi has helped her a ton.

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I was going to say I like that and I actually think that was a really nice layer.

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It's saved Charlotte Flair this year.

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It is. It is.

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The strat the strat and stuff they thought they could make her baby face the crowd hates her.

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Okay crap, we'll split this. She's the heels. Tiffany's the baby face. Tiffany wins.

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Fuck now what do we do a Charlotte for the rest of the year.

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The Lexi thing kind of saved it and by the way the TikTok videos I don't know if you're seeing these.

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The little TikTok videos that Lexi and Charlotte do are hilarious.

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But then to then now look at the other baby face and go I don't like you.

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I think you're a snake when you were always the one who was the snake.

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Does it make a ton of sense because Ria doesn't really flip back and forth like other wrestlers like she's baby face for a long time.

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She's healed for a long time.

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There's not those quick switches like just that little bit right there when this makes zero sense unless you're going to unless Charlotte was hurt and they're going to slide somebody else into her spot.

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But then the Monday night stuff happened you're like okay she's not hurt.

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I guess she's in the match and okay like it just it didn't like it made the stuff to have it on Smackdown like in in consequential or weird unless Charlotte is going to turn on Ria again at some point.

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Like I don't really get it and this is just weird foreshadowing for nothing.

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Well I mean you bring up that point and it's a very solid point to try where like it doesn't make sense why are they not getting long.

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And then I think about the men's war games team like I know Reigns and Cody have tagged with one another but they did it out of like necessity rather than like friendship and a bond.

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There's no bond there and then Reigns and punk.

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And then just like I said earlier this year tagged a year ago and now they're tagging again it's like that doesn't get addressed on the men's side but Charlotte just got a random we walk out on Ria and team on Friday nights back down and randomly appear again on Monday.

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It's odd booking it's I would have just kept on the team at that point and just I don't know I don't know if there was an injury concern or they like wrote her off.

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What that was all about but I assume she's back on the team and then the team will be rounded out by AJ Lee on one side Becky Lynch on the other.

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The only other thing out of this entire match doctor that's sticking out to me is how about lash legend getting this spot after being called up for Manics team.

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I mean she was like doing nothing in an exedal last couple months and here she is in a war games match at one of the biggest shows of the year.

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It shows they have faith that her I mean I don't know if this is as bad as you know was it the camera year was when Mike Knox was in the survivor series and shot Michael super kicked him.

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Yeah it's like who was that guy I think that was who that is a classic moment.

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It is this one is like I don't I don't want to say she's on that level but it is kind of things where like she's only been on the main roster and really around Naya for what like a month now.

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And we really haven't established why she has a friendship and a tag team with Nia Jackson yet.

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And it's like all right well maybe they just buy into the hey she is going to be the next.

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J the next Bianca she's that next you know strong African American female performer that you know people are going to let our gravitate towards.

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Honestly if you would ask me a year and a half ago to years ago I would have said this would be Nikita Lion spot.

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But that's how far off she's following because of injuries and lashes just stay super consistent and they're rewarding her with the spot.

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Plus I do think this Naya lash tag team could be that like super dominant physical women's tag team that we just really haven't had.

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Like they're just bigger and better than everybody else and it's going to be really really hard for anybody to take them down.

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You also forgot to mention that it meant Mike Knox HBK spot from the Serrarsers. I think he said who is that guy is he on the other team.

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And then when he super kicked him, pin them on to three and he's like oh that's good.

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So he has to be a blank right.

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Yeah he had to ask triple H who was that.

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I don't know was he on the other team. Yeah was that good then.

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Yes. I think he did something with like his hand like was the bell rang. So classic moment there.

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But yeah, Wargames matches taking shape both matches.

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We were like two weeks ago and no idea where this is going. I had some idea but here we are now a very clear picture less than nine to nine days out now from Serrarsers War game at Pecklepark in San Diego, California.

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Switching gears here now to AW with full gear this Saturday after try before we preview full gear.

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I feel like we are approaching one of the most wonderful times of the year in all lead wrestling.

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I feel like nobody does the holiday season like AW my opinion and this sometimes feels like a downtime for wrestling but not an AW and it won't be in WWE as well with stuff going on with Sina.

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We've got the continental classic coming up here the participants will be announced early next week they begin on the Thanksgiving Eve edition of dynamite the dynamite diamond battle royal be taking place you have the NYC shows at the Hammerstein around the holidays those really funny year ago I expect the same to wrap up the year here in AW.

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And then from full gear to AW worlds and maybe one of the best month long stretches in wrestling in general I'm excited about it I think it's the most wonderful time of the year in AW do you feel that way though?

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Yeah AW packs the holidays and they do some of their best shows around this time of year I actually watched collision or actually watch dynamite Wednesday night live when it happened because I was actually in my hotel room and in the mayor of the city Glen Jacobs actually allows AW to be broadcast on television and noxual Tennessee so there you go thank you Mr. Jacobs.

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But I'm watching the show and I did have a question and it wasn't clarified this is part of my problem with dipping out of AW for a little bit I'm excited about the continental classic I know how much we both enjoy it but there is no continental title anymore correct.

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No it's in that unified championship which is that's the gray area of confusion.

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Okay so I'm not the only one who's kind of like is is Okada in the tournament and if he is I thought he was down to just the one belt like the unified international continental title I thought it was just one belt are we cutting the belt in half or does the winner of the continental classic.

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Get a shot at the international title or the national title I know I'm this is where like because otherwise I'm like why are we having the content of the classic if there's no reward for winning the continental classic.

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Now I'm I'm with you they have not addressed a add funny because I was like turn a match with Okada was Okada's match with masquerade Dorada I think which actually then ended up airing on the collision portion of that three hour block.

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But they didn't say like the unified championship would be on the line so that is something they definitely need to clear up I'm with you on that as well.

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And then the international and the national are separate titles I do like by the way I love that ricochet said he wants to win that because he wants to be the national champion and immediately I'm like I just are thinking like college football college basketball.

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I'm like the national championship does sound like you're winning the CFP you know or you're winning March Madness or something so but it's it's like that's one of those things we're like guys for people like us bring up what the end game is so that way we have that clarity when you get more excited for it instead of just having those weird like moments like this where we're like what's the purpose of the classic now if there is no continental title.

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And if it's in the international titles in play shouldn't be the international classic then at this point I got that's I don't think it is they're both they got put into one championship now the continental title in the international championship or the unified championship.

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We can do an entire podcast on titles in a w right now the fact that they're introducing another championship this upcoming pay per view like has my mind completely blown like what are we doing here it's like we remove title bring back a title rename a title but this is a type like the international championship the whole purpose of that which was originally the all the Atlantic championship I love that championship I love when orange Cassie had it and pocket it like they were defending all the time on television was really fun period of time for a w.

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And then it goes away and the purpose of that was to be defended like all across the globe it was defended I want to say over in the UK at a couple shows and now it's basically the same premise for the national championship but I did see Tony con announced that this title will be defended at R.O.H. Final Battle because no AW title has been defended on an R.O.H. show which is odd because the R.O.H. titles are defended all the time on the all the wrestling shows.

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Yeah I just think that they do the holiday season really really well we do need some clarity here on the continental classic and AW and titles it's like really we we need another F and title to be added to the roster it's like give me a break here so fun times ahead for all the wrestling what I would call one of the most wonderful times of the year in professional wrestling the next month from full year to world end and speaking of full year here Dr. Trey will wrap up this week's this show covering all all the elite right now.

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All the elite wrestling's full gear P.P.E. or PPV they're not PLE's PPV's this Saturday for the Prudential Center in Newark New Jersey got hangman on a page defending the AW World Championship and still cage match against Simone Joe.

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Chris that Leonard defending the AW Women's World Championship against Mercedes Monet Brodito defends the AW World Tag Team Championship against FTR Kenny Omega Interastic Express take on Josh Alexander the Young Bucks and a $1 million or Trio match.

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The casino got a match to crown the inaugural AW National Championship as Bobby Lashley will be number one Shelton Benjamin will be number two to start the match Kyle Fletcher defends the AW TNT Championship in a notice qualification match against Mark Briscoe

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Briscoe loses he will be forced to join the Don Calis family Darby Oliver's is Pock Babes over at versus Sisters and San versus Timeless Love bombs versus Jaffir and Bane in a four way tag team match where the winning team chooses the

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stipulation for their summer final match in the AW Women's World Tag Team Championship tournament and John Moxley takes on Kyle Riley in a holdspawn match.

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Dr. Tray what matches are you looking forward to this Saturday AW full here.

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Really looking forward to Kyle O'Reilly John Moxley you and I alluded talked about this month Kyle O'Reilly stuff a few weeks ago.

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Just the fact that he's kind of had Moxley's number and we're getting like super aggressive talking of Kyle which is what we kind of got at the end of his NXT run.

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I'm glad to see them kind of giving him the ball to run with here.

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Excited about that one.

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The women's tagged the four way I'm excited about just because I like all four of these teams like just from watching AW the last couple weeks and kind of seeing what they're doing.

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The stipulation part of it doesn't really intrigue me at all but I don't know about you. I love the babes of wrath.

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Like it is like they're so entertaining.

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The the the timeless love bombs are great to sisters of sin I like all four of these these tag teams in this.

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And the casino gauntlet battle was got me really interested because they have a lashedly going into one is Shelton going into.

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Very MVP should have this match go no longer than 30 seconds just enough time for one of the guys to lay down get a pin fall.

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And the match like there's no real reason for these guys to fight any longer unless you're looking at breaking up the heart syndicate which have.

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Arguably the best theme song in AW I mean the crowd sings along with we are people more than any other song in AW right now.

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And then just what are you doing with with hangman in in in Joe like where do we go after this match because I don't think anybody thinks Joe's winning this.

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Where is who's the next guy up after hangman so just kind of interesting where the direction for they go for where they go and what happens to the ops with Hobbs out right now and you know your ring of honor trios tag or they are they are they are I don't know which trios tag team titles they hold.

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They have the ad on the track okay they need to like what do you do with that in the meantime and hey maybe just hook get involved in this at some point as well I don't know what you're doing here so I'm intrigued by the million dollar match I'm also intrigued by because just the tension they're teasing between the bucks and cows the bucks not wanting to really join down cows with done paying for so much stuff.

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And do you have them turn on Josh to think give Omega in the and Jurassic Express the win orders hey does Jack Perry and lucha source turn on Kenny Omega and those guys end up joining the donk call his family and you get Omega in the bucks against the cow's family that would be pretty cool like a little cool switch but I think people they're they're over weight now with the crowd but I think that be really cool switch.

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Lucha sources over I was just so was over the crowd I don't know if jungle jungle Jack Perry is over with the crowd I think lucha kind of lucha source kind of carries Jack Perry over I don't know if the crowd really loves Jack Perry you know Jack Perry is like an ishemic man territory for me.

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I would just I think you with a nail in the head with the card overall that trade I think this is a really strong card with a great build from only wrestling I think this is a really fun show to look forward to this weekend and it may be their best well built card of the entire year in a W right now mean top to bottom this is show that has a match that makes sense and that they've got.

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Some really good time on television to really focus on the storyline and then it has carried over to the paper view it is wrestling one on one I'm happy to see this from the creative and all the wrestling and yeah I think probably the match I'm most looking forward to is the $1 million tree of match because I'm interested to see how this I think the box on the verge of turning maybe face I want to see how that plays out.

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Do they take the L and the don Cal's family beats the crap out of them only for Kenny Omega and Jurassic Express to make the safe could they do it that way I'm also really intrigued by the call Fletcher Mark brisco match I think this is the storyline entertainment wise would tell me like I think if brisco was forced to join the don Cal's family I would be really intriguing but the mind of the heart tells me that would be the most interesting thing I mean entertainment side.

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The but the mind is telling me that it's it's time for brisco to get his opportunity to run with this championship he's taken L after L from Kyle Fletcher over the last couple months I would say and now it's time to put the TNT championship on him but yeah this is really good I want to see how the moxley Kyle a Riley stuff have takes place after Kyle has own John moxley over the last four or five weeks and then page and Joe and the still cage match I mean this is like often forgotten about but this is like a club.

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This is like a classic build and classic match for world championship and then finally does Mercedes Monet win a 14th championship.

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You know a couple weeks ago, Dr. Trey you and I talked about like women's wrestler of the year and we did not mention her she is 13 titles and I have to be honest there's about 12 championships I don't give a shit about like the TDS championship is probably the only one no disrespect to the others but it's just facts.

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Despite like being rate ranked number one the P. W. I. women's top 500.

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It's kind of been a year where I'm looking at other female wrestlers rather than Mercedes Monet so nonetheless this is a really strong card with a great build and I am looking forward to AW full year which we will recap Dr. Trey next Thursday we will have a show the Thanksgiving special will recap AW.

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We will recap AW full year will preview survivor series war game and give you guys like 40 minutes to an hour to step away from the family for a little bit an annual tradition here on SRT you Dr. Trey the Thanksgiving special coming next week on the program and we will also be releasing the holiday schedule for everybody as well.

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Yeah the Thanksgiving show like we've done best not best but we've done like pre-taped ones with like our favorite tag teams and survivor series matches I believe like we've done some lot of stuff over the over the years of this the fact that we're able to come to you and kind of recap a pay per view talk about what's happening right now not really missing a beat now are we going to be recording it on Thanksgiving day no because Jeff loves turkey and he loves past.

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He loves passing out after watching the Detroit Lions playing so we're not going to play in green Bay this year they're playing green Bay.

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Yeah but you know damn well that's true Detroit's actually good now so that's look there's only been like a handful of years in our 15 years where the Lions actually had an important Thanksgiving day.

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So yeah we're going to spend a little bit time with our family on Thursday but hey the show is going to be recorded right before Thanksgiving so giving away a little bit of behind the scenes secrets here but it's going to be law I mean it's going to be up to date it's not a best it's not a pre-taped three weeks ago type recording for us this is going to be us time I wrestling by the way the AW show Jeff the fact that there's only like seven announced matches right now has me super excited because I'm like oh that's like a three hour show.

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It's not five it's not seven it's not all day long that allow for better storyline because I'm a super excited we didn't mention Darby and in in in Neville because I'm going to call him Neville.

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Yeah Darby and Paul I just watched some old WWE from the Cruiserweight era.

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We didn't mention like Pock through the man through a flaming table in this match because of that is like down the list of the ones who were most intrigued by I'm just wanting to see they said literally on Wednesday night Darby has second degree burns.

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Yeah so I want to see how they make Darby look with second degree burns like four days later announced it on the show like if he doesn't come out looking like a burn victim like all taped up I'll be disappointed.

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Yeah no it's it's going to be a fun show this Saturday to be full gear once again we'll recap it for you guys all on next week's edition the show.

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And we'll preview WWE Survivor Series War games before we get a couple plugs and sponsor the way I just want to make mention here Dr. Shrenner talking about an off air earlier today we got the unfortunate news that a member of the SRTU community since way back when Jeff Perini unexpectedly passed away Jeff who may not be known by people on this show was a blogger on camel clutch blogger.

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He did a fantasy football football content on there each week for Eric Argil from her.

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A coach of the show and and where I wrote for a while back in the days when blocking with something in the early 2010s when the show was started.

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And both Dr. Shrenner I played with Jeff on in fantasy football in our SRTU fantasy football league for the last 15 years he's he's been in the league all 15 years.

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He made the playoffs last year he's a two time champion in a league he made the playoffs like 11 out of 15 times I did not know Jeff personally outside of our league but obviously interacted with him a lot over the years in fantasy football and something we were doing camel clutch blog and I think he was a wrestling fan a little bit too.

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And when a dabbling to listen to the show here so just want to take a moment and send our condolences to Jeff Perini's family and friends just unexpectedly passing away too soon very tragic gentleman in his mid 40s his life coming to an end is is is very very sad so we just want to send our condolences to Jeff Perini's family and friends.

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We'd be remiss if we did not mention Jeff's passing here on this week's edition of the show with that said we'll get a couple plugs in sponsor the way you could sports over at patreon.com slash SRTU podcast like I said December 1 we'll be lifting the paywall everybody can sign up join go there now sign up you could join as a free user you could join there as a paid user and help support the show the show becomes available immediately for download add free with so many more exclusives you can download show every Thursday or Friday over at real guy media.com

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russet on X and the store with a show feed on Apple spotify where we don't lose podcast to get to rate video subscribe is the outgrown this king first to keep playing the charts on those podcast platforms you could fall individually on extra myself at SRTU Jeff for Dr.

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Franklin D Dr. Trey and of course stuff we can fall show on X at SRT you podcast with that being said what is going on the one full world of Dr. Trey Franklin this week.

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Well like Jeff said you can follow me on X at the Dr. Trey you can find me on Facebook and Instagram Dr. Trey Franklin when you're on Facebook be sure to check out Rockets City J. W. J.

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Wrestling they just had a big show last Saturday saw a our survivor series show crazy turn of events as one of the long time good guy

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star words of Rockets City turned his back on the fans and win heel so be sure to go on there check out the YouTube page you can actually watch the whole show our next big show is coming up December first we're getting closer and closer to our

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I want to say nine year anniversary show it might be ten I think it's nine but that's coming up here in the next few weeks as we also get closer and closer to the

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city rumble coming up in early January but get out there also check out your local independent wrestling shows those guys are the lifeblood of what you watch on TV those are the guys that you're

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going to be seeing popping up on your AEWs your NXTs a lot of the guys you see nowadays like they start off on the lower and shows but like guys like Adam Priest Lexus King those guys have all passed through Rockets City

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championship wrestling so we're super proud of those guys but that's why we say get out and support your local shows but most importantly with the holidays coming up give your family some love you know with stuff like what happened with Jeff's

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passing just a reminder that life is precious life is short make sure you're getting out look you may not want to spend eight hours locked in a house with your

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family but dear God just tell me love them and you appreciate them and how important they are to you this holiday season.

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Great words to wrap up the show there doctor try very poignant with that said we will be back next week on Thanksgiving on on around Thanksgiving so stay tuned for that maybe

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out earlier it'll definitely be out earlier on the page around page may sign it a little bit earlier over the bow or so we can pose that up at real

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here dot com as well enjoy the weekend enjoy AW full gear and until next week for Dr. Stray Franklin I am Jeff Pack this has been the