CM Punk has been fired, WWE Payback & AEW All Out Recap | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #708 – 9/7/23
On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show, Jeff & Dr. Trey Franklin:
- -- Recap & review "WWE Payback!"
- -- Recap & review "AEW All Out!"
- -- And CM Punk has been fired by AEW!
- -- Recap & review "WWE Payback!"
- -- Recap & review "AEW All Out!"
- -- And CM Punk has been fired by AEW!
0:00 It's still welcome, everybody. Welcome to this week's edition is a real post show Episommer seven or eight or September seven, twenty twenty three. What would your given week paid back? In eight of you All Out Weekcap and Review edition of ass Are You? I am one? After Show? I am Jeff Pack joined every single week by calls one my doctor Trey Franklin, Doctor Trey, did you feel friend at work? My friend? Did you just legitately ask me that question based on what we talked about off air? I tied in some wrestling and I tied it in real life? Yeah, Oh my gosh, I love you. By the way. That was. I thought you're gonna say, did I get into a fight with big time Benny Lopez or uk Stu or Hey, I was waiting for you ask me if I got fired with Cause and I was gonna make a Chris Cause joke.
1:10 But no, no, no, Jeff goes to my real life and asked me if I felt the Reddoe work. So not anymore because God knows. Like I told you all fair, I'm the best damn promo guy in the South, and there's nobody that can. I'll talk me when a jar gets involved. Hey, for what it's worth, guys, I can can either confirm nor deny if Doctor Trey was in the gorilla position, aw all in and felt threatened by a now former employee of All Elite Wrestling. More on that in a bit. We got a lot of ground to cover up. Let's get into w W Payback recap review coming to us live this past Saturday from the PPG Paints Arena in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvanian, also hosted by the one and only John Cena. First match, Becky Lynch defeats Tristratus in a steelcage match. We both had, Becky Lynch, Doctor Trey. What a great match. This few is track don a little too long, but this match made up for it. I think this is a top ten match in twenty twenty three right now in my opinion. Zoe turning on Trish was a surprise.
2:08 I've been happy for her being in this position since coming from NXT. I absolutely love this match, Doctor Treys. Becky Lynch defeats Trish in a steel cage. This may outside of edge, This may have been the best performance by a w W Hall of Famer in a match in ever like edge and Trish just showed like what was like to still be a Hall of Famer, is still be able to stay on par with people literally almost half their eight Like, this was an amazing match to me. This was top three women's match of the year, easy, like maybe top two, maybe not number one, but not two and top three. Fantastic match, great storytelling.
2:52 I mean the ass kicking that both ladies took in this match, the toll it took on their bodies, that that freaking egg that was growing out of Tricia's head as the match went on, Evan's still taking Zoe's finisher after the match, Like, what a tremendous performance by everybody involved, Like this, I didn't know if anything was going to top this match. I thought I thought the show is over at this point because I'm like, I don't know if anyby can top this match, isn't It was just that good? It was amazing, really really good matches. Becky Lynch defeats Tris Stratus. Next match, here is Lni defeating the miss. We'd both at l Anike and the victory and the special guest referee This one was John Cena. Fine match and a tough act to follow after that great cage match seem to be involved as a special guest referee was a great move to help continue elevate l A Night scene a giving night. The endorsement was a nice moment, and there's also been reports today that La Night has reportedly resigned with w W for a five year extension that will helped make him one of the biggest baby faces in the company going forward. Lani defeats the Miss Doctor Trey. This match showed me how good the Miss isn't the ring and that La Knights still kind of maybe isn't as good of a worker as we hoped. He was like, he's good, but I don't know. I watched a match. I'm like, missus carrying this match, and he's kind of carried this rivalry, so I thought it was an e match. I did not like it for the l and I character because it took John Cena getting into verbal diet tribes
4:25 with the Miss to help La Night get the win. I just didn't think it was a good evening for La Night with the in ring performance and how they had the match going on. The highlight for him was literally post match at the end or at the on the ramp where Scena goes it's your moment and walked off and l A n I got a whole forty five seconds by himself before he walked back to the back. Yeah, it was. It was. People are comparing it to Hogan raising the rocks hand Rock raising Seea his hand and then Sena has raised hand of both Cody and Laight. I saw that photo over the weekend. I don't know if it's at that level yet, but it's a very big deal when John Cena is raising your hand because it's somewhat of a torch passing or at least some sort of endorsement pat on the back. It's like, hey, now they'll get your stuff and do your thing in this position. Next match, here is ray Masterio defeating an Austin Theory to retain the w United States Championship. We both at ray Masterio getting victory. Solid an enjoyable match. I liked how they executed the finish. This one good stuff by Rain Theory. Your thought, Yeah, I really yeah, I really liked this match as well. I thought it was really well done. I feel bad for Theory because everything's WrestleMania is.
5:36 It feels like he's kind of dipped back down a little b again. But explain to me real quick. Jeff, as a longtime wrestling fan. Theory beats John Cena at WrestleMania, and John Cena picks of all the matches to be the special guest referee and not Austin Theories match, and it's the match right after the one he was in. So I thought that was a little bit like maybe Seena should have said something or done something to kind of get back a little bit from the WrestleMania stuff, because fans don't forget that stuff. So I just I didn't like the placement. I guess maybe that match was seen a being on screen right before that match given the history of WrestleMania. The match and stuff, like I said, was fine. I'm glad Ray got the win. I also liked the jack of Dominic's face crossed out on it. I thought that was pretty great. And then, now, what do you do with Thouston theories? Is it? Because usually when the young up and comer loses his rematch for the mid card title, he just puts the main events seat. So maybe this is where the theory gets that next step up. I understand your theory on this entire thing about why I didn't see it a special guest or free That does make sense. However, I guess you could make a case right Devil's Advocate Scena and Miss did headline and WrestleMania, and the Rock was also involved. The back and forth in the microphone between Miss and Seen. It was really nice and refreshing and very well done by two veterans of the game. But yeah, I mean, I totally get what you're saying, but I think it was probably more important we to get the rub for l a night than it was to play on
7:06 a storyline that probably leads to nowhere. If Theory and Seeing interact again. Yeah, So I just like if you if you put that match two matches later, I don't even think about it. It's just the fact that it was literally right at Yeah, And I mean I don't think you just like Seeing loses the Theory and it goes. We never saw him say anything do anything afterwards, and Theory did win clean cheated to win. So no, I know, I know. But but then again too, I don't think we knew that we're going to have John c And available right now. Yeah. So, I mean some strikes and yeah, maybe maybe bump a match back or move a couple of things around, and just because the fans over get because it wasn't that long ago yet. I hear what you're saying from this storyline perspective, but when you actually look through the grand scheme of the entire pay per view, which will look at here momentarily, I actually thought the match placement was really good with Becky Lynch and Tris starting it off, and then some like La Night and the Miss was like a slow build up, and then Raymon Stereo and Ausit Terry was the next step up and that was a pretty good match. But then middle way here Finn Baler and Damian Priest defeating Kevin Owens and Sammy Zane and a Steel City street fight to win the nisputed WW Tag Team Championship, which we both corrected predictively correctly predicted, is like the next level of the show. Like, I love this match.
8:31 This match literally had everything in it, violence, tributes, hometown pops, blood chair spots, table spots, garbage can spots, swantom bomb through a table, spear through the barricade, interference, and great in ring work. This was a phenomenal match. The juner Day continue to run w as they add the endospeed to tag team titles to their stable at Payback. I think this is one of those you go through this match and it kind of makes sense as to you know, some of the match layout for this show. Yeah, no, this is if this is the middle of your show, you want your middle should be really hot. So yeah, like, if I'm structuring a show, so far, the structure like how I would do it is correct. The storyline tie ins are a little bit where I got a little bit befuddled there. But dear god, this match was so much fun. Like these, you know, street fights and tag team matches typically don't go great because camera wise, production wise, it's kind of hard to keep everything going. They did a fantastic job of the shots, the angles, like Dominic's last second, you know, throwing a briefcase to break up a pinfall, like all this stuff was so much fun. JD McDonough getting involved to help them win, but then not being allowed to celebrate on stage, Like all this stuff was such. It was good storytelling, good creative, good in ring work, the hockey fight, throwing the gloves down like little stuff like that. I'm just like, this is fantastic. This was arguably like the most fun tag match I've seen since you know, Kevin Samy and the USOS. So it's It's been one of the better tag matches
10:03 I've seen in the last six months. Next match is Ria Ripley defeating Raquel Rodriguez to retaining w W Women's World Championship. We both had reget in the victory. Match dragged down a little bit and similar to the La Night mismatch, had a very tough act to follow and the highly entertaining tag team match that happened before it, even with the Grayson Waller affect Cody Roads Juso segment giving it some buffer. Nonetheless, it was nice to see the women get a good amount of time on the show to do their thing. Ria retains ut Trey. Yeah. I think this is one of those one of those matches when you have two women who typically are able to like severely overpower their opponents like they're in ringwork, style has to completely adjust. When it's it's hard for Riad to rip or Ria to lift Raquel, it's hard for Raquel to lift Ria. It's hard to get those same big ooze and os and bumps for the match when typically when they do it to like a Sealina Vega or a Chelsea Green, you're like, oh my god, that looks like a kill. So I think that may have led to a bit the awkwardness and making it feel like it went a little long. It's kind of like we have those hoss fights for the met This is a hoss fight for women, and sometimes those feel like they drag a little bit so, but overall a good performance from mckel. This shows that she's on the way to Riya's level, but still has a bit to go. And then finally the main event here Seth Freaking Rollins defeat Schinsky and knocking More to retain the worldly Bitwaite Champion to Peo. Both had Seth Freaking Rollins getting the victory. This was a slow, methodical match that felt like it was a table setter for a
11:33 rematch as Rons squeaked by knocking More in round one. Really nice and original counter into the stomp finish should to close out the match. Solid stuff. I know this match was you either liked it or you did it on social media. I'm in the group that did like it, Doctor Trey, because I do feel like this is table setter and more will be coming out of this Roins knocking more a feud, which appears to be the case moving forward coming out of Raw Following Payback, your thoughts on the main event, Seth freaking rons pertained. I thought this was Shinsk's best performance since he wrestled aj Styles at WrestleMania, Like this was the most fluid we saw, Like everything in Shinsk's arsenal we haven't got to see that long time. Shinsk as a heel is so good and creepy at times, like it's just awkward, weird, just like unnerving. I honestly like, I think the only reason people dislike it is either you're you've disliked how Shinsk has been booked for the last four years, or you disliked Seth be in the champ Like outside that, I thought it was a good performance. It told the story, It checked all the boxes for what a good professional wrestling matches would be. And like I said, Shinsk looked strong in this match and looked like on several occasions he could have beat Seth. So I thought it was great for Shinsk's career as well. Pitvview predictions from Payback we both went six and oh, which then puts US at eighty three and twenty nine for myself, Doctor Tray seventy seven and thirty five Match of the Night and event rating. I gave my
13:05 Match to the Night to Becky Lynch and Tris Stratus, and I gave WWE Payback eight three point eight. I thought it was a very solid show, Doctor try what say you? Yeah? I gave my Batchel to Night to Becky and Trish as well. I actually gave it a four because outside of the La Night mismatch, I really liked everything else pretty much on the show, So I just had the one massic hide right that that kind of drugged down with it. So I gave it a four point er for me. All right, then let's get into the next night. Here aw all out recap review from this past Sunday from the United Center in Chicago, Illinois. We had Hangman Adam Page winning the over budget charity Battle Royal on zero hour.
13:45 I thought it was a fun Battle Royal and a good way to kick off the show. That was really my only notes from this. I was just glad I remember who Hangman Adam Page was. That was my note from this Hey, great back and forth between he and sort of Strickland this past Wednesday and Time of Mine, her Carroshda, Willow Nightingale and Sky Blue defeating Mercedes Martinez, Diamante and Athena and a women's trios match. We did not predict this match. I thought it was a fine women's trios match and it just felt like time Feller. Yeah, I thought it was. It was a solid women's six mans tag. I just didn't like to finish because between Athena looking you know, has been looked really strong as Ring of Honor champion, I thought i'd be a good way to remind the you know, the AW fans how badass Athena is. And we see Willow Sky in What's Your Faith all the time anyway, So I thought it'd been good to get Athena of the win in this setting. But you know, it is what it is, solid tag match. Next match, here's the acclaimed to Billy Gunn defeating Jeff Jarrett, j Leatham, Satam Singh to retain the AW World Trio's Championship. We also did not predict this one. To me, this was just a Sports Center moment match with Dennis Roman using the guitar, and it's ONEIM saying. If someone told me in nineteen ninety four when I was watching WWE that Jeff Jarrett and Billy Gunn of the Smoking Guns will be resting on a pay for you nearly thirty years later, I wanted to believe them.
14:58 Great performance by those guys. I thought it was a fine match and it was just the sports at a moment that they were looking for mine notes on this one where Dens Robin doesn't look like he ages much, I still thought he looked pretty good. Which thing goes right along with Billy Gunn and Jeff Jared, So I think they all drink from the same well water. And like I said, if you like what you mentioned about Billy Gunn and Jeff Jared, if you'd thrown the fact that, hey, by the way, Dennis Rodman will be involved in wrestling in twenty twenty three, I would have been like, did you steal from his stash? And what are you smoking outside of that? Just good filler. Jane Lethal's a workhorse. I mean, Jane Lethal carries a lot of these matches for Jared and Sottenham Sing. Because Tottenham Sing to me is one step above giant Gonzalez. Uh yeah, yeah, it's it's in that same vein, right, Yeah, great colleague.
15:48 At least colleague was athletic when he was younger, like Sottenham, just seems kind of his footwork is really atrocious and awkward and I and I get it, he's a big, giant, gangly man, but you're still putting them on pay per views, like you know, there's a way you do this and not make him actually get in the ring. So yeah, sometimes the big men get it, sometimes they don't. And then you also see people like improved like I think Omas when he's been off television for a little bit, he was very Soltam saying John Gonzalez esque, looking a little clumsy of the ring. Then he got better as time went on, so maybe they're still hope there. And then finally to the main show, MJF and Adam Cole defeat Alex Reynolds and John Sell where the Dark order to retain the ROH Tag Team Championship. We both at MJF and Adam Cole get the victory solid tag match. The story and this one was MJF working is alien neck injury, having to be taking the back and getting a big baby face pop when he came back out to help get the win. The MJF baby face turn has been a really interesting storyline. Smojoe giving MJF an NXT like push that led to them brawling before the next match was really nice transition, and to do what I would presumed to be the next feud and match for MJF.
16:56 My only thing is why didn't Adam Cole immediately going gonna make the save? Was that a storyline tidbit or just bad timing from the security team to break up the pre match fight between samo Joe and MJFF. Nonetheless, MJFF and Adam Cole retain BABA. Yeah, it was a fine tag match. My big thing when I'm watching this is like, oh God, I forgot how much like a Dark Order? Because John Silver should beginning of a much bigger pushing agains because that guy always gets a reaction. And then I thought, why haven't they just reek, Like, why have they just combined the Righteous with the Dark Order? Like that would make a ton of thing. I mean, dude, Grayson's in the Righteous, it makes it would make sense to do it. The post match stuff I thought, like when Samoe Joe attacked m JFF. Adam Cole was right there. I thought AdVac was like, oh shit, if I run down here, will Keith Lee knock me into the crowd? Like it just felt like a very like NX team moment. But it's I don't know how to feel about the baby faced her because I love MJF so much as a heel, Like, I'm still I'm waiting for the other shoot to drop, and I'm like, if this is like one of those long her slow burns to get to the payoff, They're doing a really really good job of making me wait now. So I'm on board with it if it does lead to one of these two guys turning and being the hell of the other one. Yeah, I mean they have done this multiple times where you're thinking on the verge of an MJF baby face turn, and then he turned heel, So I think that's part of the reason, and I don't think it's a thing that is good necessary for the storyline.
18:26 I think that they've turned him completely baby face, and I think this is the direction. I think there will be obviously a payoff here at some point that leads to the next layer of this, But I think aw kind of screwed around a little bit too much, and that's why people like you and I may not be fully able to sink our teeth into the baby face turn and believe it to be true because they did it at least twice already in Awware, they teased it and then did not execute it. Next match her samo Joe defeeding Shane Taylor to retain the ROH World type Television Championship. We did not predict this one. I like the amount of offense Shane Taylor on in on this one. Samojoe was still protected when he quickly snapped on the cocaine and clutch to make Taylor tap out for the win. Shane Taylor has interacted with us on Twitter in the past, so very happy to see him get this opportunity of samoja retains. Yeah, I like Shane Taylor.
19:12 Shane Tylor was good at one of my friends Oshe Edwards, who's downe in MLW, but o Sha was part of Shane taylor enterprises at the close of Ring of Honor and Shane's with good people like you. I was happy to see a lot of the offense get in there. I was also happy to see Joe get the wind coming on the heels of all in to see Joe get back on the winning track. It also really solid athletic big man match and like we were talking about, like me with the Rhea and Raquel, this match didn't have those awkward slow parts. These guys know how to work together. It was a really well done match. And uh, like I said, like, I was just happy for both guys. I thought both guys come out of that match looking strong, which is what you actually really want in these situations. Lucas Source defeats Darby Allen to retain the AWT and T Championship. I had Darby Allen doct trade Lucasaurus. I like to finish where Christian distracted Darby Allen from doing the Coffin drop. I threatened to hit Nick Wayne with the concerto. They've been hyping up how banged up Darby Allen has been lately. So I wonder if at some point we see him get written off and give him a little bit of a break. But he's currently in the tournament to take on mjaff at Dona Mike rand Slam. Also, Darby had a three count on Lucasaurus, and I wonder if the big Man was actually out from the Code Red top rope spot because that was a hard fall and everybody knew it was a three count, Like it looked like Lucasource might have gone out there legitimately, reason why he kicked out late. Lucasource retains that Doctor Trey. Yeah. I enjoyed the Christian Cage Lucasaurus angle with Christian being the champion, even though Lucia does all the wrestling. I like
20:45 that stuff, and I thought it was the right call, Like you got to re establish this title being credible because it's been hot potted around for a while. I mean, this would have been Darby's third or fourth reign with it if he had won. My only knock on this match is because of what happened on Dynamite, because he saved Wayne from getting the Concerto at all out, but then stomps his freaking head in on Dynamite. So I'm like, okay, it's okay if I stomp your head in, but God forbid, Christian like knock you out of the chair. So that was my knock. It was basically like four days or three days later, maybe dislike the finish interesting point, and I feel like they're kind of teasing. Maybe Christian is trying to influence Nick Wayne a little bit and to join up there.
21:30 So yeah, it's interesting stuff. Yeah, he needs a new Jack Perry. He does, he does because Jack Perry is unavailable right now. Miro defeats Powerhouse Hobbs. We both had Miro getting the victory. Fun match with great crowd interaction. The only drawback in this match was Powerhouse Hobbs was falling out of the game over over finisher and Miro was resetting him when he tapped out, so it didn't look great visually, like he was readjusting the game over. And then you've got Powerhouse Hobbs tapping out to the game over Kiml clutch finisher or Accolade, however you want to call it. C J. Perry Slash Alana making the save was a nice surprise, but Miro not knowing if his real life wife would be a peer Slash saying she's not real was very confusing to me, very confusing. Doctor tre Miro wins this one.
22:18 Yeah, I like this match because from we really haven't seen a lot of Miro in a while. And I've always loved him. Once again, a really good athletic big man match, and these are the kuype I like to zee. I blame the ref on the finish, because that's something if you know, look, the ref's gonna know what the finish is heading into a match, and if you see a guy having to reset the whole, even if the guy's tapping, you can play it off like he was trying to get his hand under the calf or on the calf to push out and then make him tap again to make it look cleaner. So that's on the ref more than anything else. C J. Perry is so damn beautiful, Jeff, oh my god, you know. And then the stuff of the mirror, the stuff of the mirror and her is all like they've never really had.
23:03 Outside of their initial debut. Everything they've done from like russef Day Odd has been awkward and weird in the most non traditional love story and maybe professional wrestling history. Yeah, it was strange. It was very very strange. And then they go on Instagram and they're like doing TikTok's with one another or whatever, like reels. So I was like, this is just bizarre. But maybe that was the point of it, I don't know. Chris stat Lanard feeds Ruby Soo to retain the AWTBS Championship. We both had stat Lander getting victory. Solid match. Tony Storms involvement in the match didn't come off well as it looked like Ruby Soho out of stall a little bit, so the interference could be executed with that set, I have enjoined Tony Swordon's slow turn into a character who has lost her mind since dropping the women's championship.
23:55 Again, great match. Doctor Trey stat Lander and Ruby so put on a good show for the women. So we had a woman who regained her mind and is no longer an alien, I guess one like against a woman who's an outcast and a runaway who gets screwed over by her friend who's lost her mind. So I just once again love the backstories on Some of the stuff is just so it's so wrestling, you know. And Merril has no idea his wife's going to be there, so yeah, because he talks to God, that's why he's he's a redeemer, so you know, maybe he thinks TJ's the Virgin Mary. I don't know, but like this matches was fun.
24:36 I love watching Ruby stef Like Ruby doesn't have bad matches. Chris Statler has come a long way in her wrestling ability, the toughest the stuff a Tony Storm is so weird and fun, and we have not seen a anybody do an old school Hollywood starlet character that I can remember, so it's also fresh and different. So it's just really fun and entertaining and I applaud for this whole segment. Here. Next match, here is Brian Danielson defeating Ricky Starks in a strap match. We did not predict this one great match, especially on short notice. His Starks was reportedly said to face punk it all out before something that happened to him. Amazing how quickly Danielson return from injury to take this match. Super happy that Ricky Starks got this spot and opportunity, as it shows he's a big time player for a w And this is a case, especially with the way the match ended, that sometimes people look a lot stronger in a loss, and that was the case with Ricky Starks.
25:30 He did not tap out, he passed out. Danielson defeats Ricky and once again this is where I'm confused, and it's like, Okay, so match yourself really fun, really well done on short notice? Is Brian Danielson a heel because he's in the BCC. I don't know. He came out on the baby face side. I totally get what you're saying. I'm with you on so like in my head, I'm like, well, I mean, but he still had he still was repid the BCC, he's so, but they're heel stable. He's on the baby face side. Ricky Starks, who up until facing CM Punk was a baby face but then he turned heels and two heels or his strap match unannounced on a pay per view like that.
26:11 The knee jerk weird stuff is where I get frustrate. Aw the and ring stuff ninety five percent type it's fantastic and you're like, damn, that was really good. It's just the frosting, the flavor, the icing on the cake, whatever you want to call it. That is professional wrestling gets missed and people like me go, just if the flavors had lined up correctly. I don't know, have you did you ever watch Friends? Jeff? No? But I'm getting hungry. Okay, So there's an episode where somebody goes to make Shepherd's Pie and they mess it up and they actually do, like they actually put it like jellies and jams into the shepherd's pie. And they asked Joey, like you ate that. He's like, yeah, meat good, jelly good, like these are all good things. And that's kind of how I feel about aw S And I's like, well, yeah, like Ricky Starks is really good, Brian Daniels is really good. The rap match was really good. But to get the flavors to line up, you kind of need everything to be there for to be a real solid course of a meal. And yeah, you're right now, I'm freaking hundred food.
27:12 Next match, Claudio Castan Onlian Wheeler, you defeat Eddie Kingston and Katsi or Shibata in a tag team match. We did not predict this one solid match finish of Eddie taking a European upper cut for the pin was was surprising. I got. I meant, yeah, I honestly did not think I would see any Kingston go under clean to a European upper cut from Claudio because I know their history. But yeah, fun match. BCC gets a little bit of revenge based on what happened at all in because on paper the best Friends should have not beat the BCC, but you know, it is what it is, but a little bit of payback. The Rig of Water champion gets a win over the new Japan Openweight Champion, so that's kind of a cool tie in as well. But you know, pretty solid tag match, and I mean Shabbata and Eddie Cason. I don't think I've ever tagged up before this match, and they had a really solid performance as a team, So there you go. I thought it was really well done. Kenoska Takeshka defeats Kenny Omega. I had know megadoct tray Tekeshka. Huge victory for Tekeshka, Penny Omega cleaning and one on one match a week after pinning Omega and a trios match. The build for Kenoska lately has been great to watch, and I like seeing the layer of Omega not being able to win without don Callis Callus in his corner. It's a subtle layer, but a powerful one in this story that's starting to gain some momentum. Kenoska Takeshka defeats Kenny Omegadoctor try.
28:32 Even though I picked to Keshka, I didn't think he was actually going to win. I'm just like, on paper, I would have had him win, but I'm like, I don't think they haven't do it. But I'm like, watch the mention, like, man, they are really making him look like a start like somebody it might be Kenny. Somebody really loves Tekeshka because typically, like like I thought earlier, like when was the last time we saw Aussie opened win a match, Like even Okada doesn't win all the time in aw But Tekeshka looks like a freaking world beater. So they are building into the mood. I applaud them forks we love new Stars, really really solid match and just you know into for me, Like I know they kind of hinted the rivalry maybe over, but I think it needs to go longer because you can't let Kenny not ever beat t Keshka. So that's it's got to get settled at some point. We'll find out what the next target is for Takeshka on Wednesday's Dynamite as they revealed the next masterpiece. Next match here is Bullet Club Gold defeating FTR and the Young Bucks in an eight man tag team match. I had FTR on the Bucks, Doctor Trade Bullet Club Clold Fun match, the fourth corner spot where they were there was a good teamwork between FTR and the Bucks been way through the match was awesome.
29:44 Bullet Club Gold has been on fire Lane. I think Aw's gonna have a tough time not making them tweeter baby faces in the future. I said recently on this podcast that I felt like they were Degeneration X, like they've been fantastic, very entertaining and enjoy Bullet Club Gold gets the victory, Doctor Trey, Yeah, this was the right call. Like I mean, you don't need FDR and the Bucks to get a win here. You need Bullet Club Gold because the crowd is really getting into them. And you know, like I said last week, you see why the Guns are going to be huge stars down the road. They're just so fun to watch and so charismatic. J White, I'm glad they're finally giving him some attention because that's your boy, that's the guy that you thought should be a main eventor in either company.
30:29 It feels like they're giving it. And damn, I love Juce Robinson, like he's just a fun dude to watch and I and I literally I don't know about you. I actually went back and start watching old nx T stuff and Honor Bray Wyatt's and seeing young C. J. Parker on there, I was like, God, he's just always been fun, even going back to those NXT days. So I'm on board Bullet Club Gold right now. I love those guys. Yeah, what was Juce Robinson was the seed? Yeah? Yeah? And he was like a hippie. Yeah, who broke Kevin Owens's nose? Kevin Owens ext Yes, he was a great character in those early WW network days of Next Day. And then finally the main event here is John Moxley defeats Orange Cassidy to win the aw International Championship.
31:11 Doctor Trey and I both had Moxley good match and great storytelling. I've enjoyed watching Moxley get this new layer out of Orange Cassidy's character, and I hope this storyline continues, as it would make sense based on the way things have gone for Cassidy the last several weeks. It was sad to see one of the best title rains in all of wrestling end, but it comes at the expense of the Orange Cassidy character continue to grow that I am here for it. I think there's something to do. Orange Cassidy opening Dynamite this past Wednesday and getting that crowd reaction, getting the thank yous and cutting the promo and you know, coming up the rampus Moxley came out. It was sad to see the rain end because it was one of my favorite It's right up there with Gunther and the Icy title. But it was time. It was time to happen, and Moxley was the right guy as he is your new international champion. Doctor Trey. Yeah, I once to get really enjoyed this match.
32:00 Really well done Moxley. Adding the Moxley angliness adds an edge to Orange Cassidy that we didn't know if he could pull out. Great job there. It gives this title another layer of credibility on name value for having John Moxley being the champ. And like I was talking about Austin theory, sometimes when you your young up and comer loses a mid card title is because they're about to push him to the next level up. Unfortunately for me in aw sometimes I don't know what the next level up is past you know the nineteen titles they have in the mid card division. But by the way, the only knock I have on Cassie. Remember that chromo that Roman cut where he walked out to the ring. The crowd kept booing him he would win to talk, they cut him off again. If Orange had just come out like he was going to talk, the crowd kept cheering him, and then he just smiled and gave the thumbs up and walked out of the ring. I thought it would have been just as good. But I love the layers they've added to both Orange and John Moxley with this. So just a great job with the storytelling and the and you know, the layers added to these characters for this match and coming out of it. I would agree with you. I actually, and I hate to say this, but I thought that crowd was not great on Wednesday side of mine, like he deserved a bigger elevation in my opinion, Yeah, I agree, But where were they at Wednesday nights?
33:23 I forgot they were in Indiana. No offense to the Indiana folks. Listen to the pod. I mean that's why de Wide doesn't do big time events in Indianapolis. Well, they're doing fast Lane in October. Big events. I mean, like we don't see we don't see SummerSlam, we don't see we don't see the We don't see any of the tops, Like I don't think they do money in the bank. Wait a minute, breaking Restamney forty one will be at Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis. Yeah, yeah, if by the way up in the day, because I'm pretty sure it's going to go to go to Nashville. Just the building a new stadium right yard on the street, because there's only couple hours away from me. So I got some stay tuned pivoty prediction record from all out Dot Trey went to seven and out. We went undefeated the entire week in grats, Doctor Trey, I went four and three. I'm eighty seven to thirty two. Doctor Trey is now eighty four and thirty five. Do you need to take a victory lap before we get to Match of the Night and event rating? I just had to. I just had to. I had to have one weekend in the three four years we've now been doing predictions and keeping score or I actually look like I know what the hell I'm talking about. It undefeated across the whole weekend. Yeah, has anybody else gone undefeated? We've had double pay per views. Oh man, now you're acting me look back at the history here, just do research. At some points, I see some undefeated this year. I don't know about a weekend. We'll have to take a look.
34:51 For argument sake, we'll say no, no, never has happened, breaking breaking news. All right, an event rating and match the night. I gave all out of three point nine. My match of the night was Brian Danielson and Ricky Starks, Doctor tur what's at you? So shockingly enough, I'm gonna give all out of four point one. I thought it was a little bit like just like you. I thought it was a little bit better than WWE. Most of the show coherence, made sense, continued or ended storylines properly, really really well done overall. And then I had Moxley Kassi. I just the layers in that match were just really well done. As my match of the night. Yeah, so there you go. So there's our event rating. There's our match of the night for all out this past Sunday in the United Center in Chicago, Illinois. So there's some big news that has happened over the weekend. Speaking of Chicago. Speaking of Chicago.
35:45 Two years ago, we celebrated the first match back for SAMPUNK a year ago we spent posts all out talking about brawl Out, and then basically the next year after that and days later recently we are now discussing Sampunk no longer being employed by All Elite Wrestling. Shocking news still, nonetheless, especially when you think back of the last two years with Sampunk and where this was. When it started with rampage at the first dance and it just felt like, wow, this is really cool. One of the best reactions I've ever seen in professional wrestling. People were rejoiced as Sampunk made you know, is returned to wrestling for the first time in over seven years. The drama and the stories and the stuff that has happened afterwards has been frustrating, especially in the last year. Despite all that still involved with some really good matches, some storylines have enjoyed the in ring work and the stuff that we see on television regards to see him Punk, Nonetheless, Sampunk is once again a free agent.
36:57 He is no longer employed with All Elite Wrestling. There's gonna be a lot of layers that we're going to peel away from this one. Doctor Trey here to close out the show. But your thoughts on the initial news as c him. Punk is now a former employee of a W. Based on the initial reports I got on the initial story that came out, I was kind of surprised, like, like I think we talked about last week week before, like you know, at CM Punk Russell's last matchin AW. I was like seventy five percent. No, Like you literally gave him his own show. He's your top draw, he's your top money maker. Like usually talent Trump's all, like sales Trump's all, but however you want to phrase it like that, that's usually end all, be all. Now, when you started hearing some other stories about like him threatening Tony Kahan and things like that, it made sense like if that's the way it went, okay, uh, it just at that. If that's the level you go to, then why did you bring him back? Like he was arguing with you about like you guys are battling over him even coming back. You guys battle over even being at the premier for you know, collision, Like once again, to me, it just looks like poor leadership at the top. And since when did they get a disciplinary committee Jeff, Like when did this happen?
38:21 Because they've had issues the entire run of this company, so I'm like, like, you know, we talked to this one ago, like who who is this person? Is Christopher Dandels on it because you know see him Punk just kicked him off his show a week two weeks ago. Like it's a little confusing. It does look like still backstage. It does kind of give me end up wc W vibes with chaos and just there's a lack of accountability at times. I don't have an issue with him firing him because he's been a huge pain in the ass this company for the last year. It's just that way you put up the stories to why and the reasoning and the rational It's like you've had other guys do you like andrawd A literally was begging them to fire him and they're like no, you know, it's like Alica Black did a bow. I mean, he was on his way out. It appeared I'm going back to It's like guys have wanted to leave for it.
39:19 And then like, you know, a performer like Sonny Kiss, who's a solid worker to have on your show. You don't even offer Sonny a contract to come back. You know, it's like never caused a problem, but God forbid, we give her the bare we gives any the bare minimum. You know, it's like but like it's just there's no cohesion. It doesn't feel like their structure homage to us, Jeff, there's no pecking order. True. True, it just feels like it feels like there's they're supposed to be ahead of the table, but there's not. It feels like Dad's not there. It's like when dad and mom leave and they put the twelve year old son in charge of the house because he's technically the man of the house.
40:01 But god forbid if there's a fire, because that gives in the panic and run out the front door. And that's how I feel like about a m rights like that, there's supposed to be a dad in the building and there's not. No. I hear you, and to your point, I agree with you. I think this needed to happen. It just wasn't working anymore. They've tried and tried, and it just wasn't working, and something needed to give. It was either going to be Omega the Bucks hangman They're gonna leave, or Punk was gonna leave and they just resigned. So Punk left or was fired, I should say to it, just it wasn't gonna work anymore unless they sat down. And there's all these other stories from this entire thing right on punk Side. The belief is it's he said, she said stuff like crazy in this entire story. So punk Side is saying that he see him, punk, Tony Kahan, and the elite, We're going to sit down a couple. Was it the week before heading into All In?
40:57 They were in Atlanta, they were doing a collision and dynamite taping, and they were going to all be in the same arena and it just finally put this to rest and bury the hatchet or work with each other as best they can. That never happened. Punk Side is saying that the elite canceled last minute. The Elite side is saying that they never knew that was happening. Again, he said she said stuff we all know about the all In that led to all this stuff now and the firing. I will say the stuff that I don't. So there's like a fifty fifty thing here I don't like in regard I like and I don't like from Tony Khan. So let me start by saying that I liked that Tony Khan got out in front of this entire thing and spoke about it. He didn't hide it, he didn't just put out a statement and that was that and pretended it never happened.
41:50 He got out in front of the live crowd in Chicago before the Collision show on Saturday and spoke about it, got booed up the wazoo. It was very awkward, which it tends to be at times with Tony Khan speaks, and it wasn't well received. But you got to give him a hat tip and respect that. Like he was out in front of it. Same thing. They aired like a ninety second deal before Collision, him addressing firing. You see him punk and head on addressing it again. Hat tip, all that stuff. I give him props for addressing it. The part that I don't like is he comes out and says, and I get this, so we weren't there. We don't understand his perspective and all this stuff. It just to me, it sounds like a lot of just to be completely blunt, which is something we're losing nowadays, like corporate mumbo jumbo. When he was like, I've been to so many wrestling shows in my life, and I've never have I felt like my life was in danger as it was this past Saturday. I had no point ever heard and I we've heard that there was a lunging. We heard that there was something where see him Punk went to either go up to Tony Khan, potentially attack Tony Khan, whatever, there was some sort of movement towards Tony Khan. Do I ever think Sam Punk was going to beat up Tony Khan, No, not at all.
43:14 I don't think anybody would have allowed that to happen, and I don't think he would have done that quite honestly. So when he comes out and he's like, my life was threatened, I thought that sounded so weak. I thought it sounded so corporate mumbo jumbo, and I just threw the bullshit flag on it. I thought that was the part that was bullshit. I give him a hat tip for getting out in front of it and talking about it, him saying that he thought his life was being threatened and and airing that out to the fans like that. I just thought was that was bullshit. You know, say what you will, whether you're pro seampunk or your anti sampunk. That is like a hardcore cut of slander at Punk. They are putting that out in the open as a means to demean the character of him.
44:02 I felt like if that was such a serious nature where people's lives felt like they were threatened, that is something that the Dirt Sheets would have been talking about in between All In and All Out, and we would have been talking about it on last week's show, and nor at any point did ever feel like that. You know, the thing is whether people like it or not, the wrestling business was built on if you're going to run your mouth and be a tough guy and not say something to my face or behind my back, I'm going to confront you about it, and I may slap you, I may punch, it may lead to a fight. We've heard those stories. Jacques Rougau and Dynamite Kid come to mind, like Nails and Vince wick Man come to mind. The wrestling business has been always around these stories, whether it be Shamus and Yoshi Tatsu getting into it, Joey Styles punching jbl on a flight. We've heard these stories where sometimes law is how they carry it out in the professional wrestling business. So Jack Perry said something stupid that he shouldn't have see him Punk Pie faced him put him in a guillotine and now see Him Punks the one that is fired. I think that's a little bit to how society is nowadays. It's making me sound a little bit old. But if you're going to say something like that, like Jack Perry did, you got to meet the consequences. And sometimes it's verbal, sometimes it's physical. It's just kind of the way things are sometimes, and it makes you learn that he can't say shit like that. But again, I
45:35 just did not dig Tony Khan saying that his life was threatened. And that's coming from someone that's very middle on this entire thing. I'm I think they made the right move by firing and See Him Punk. It just was not working anymore. From a backstage perspective, I don't think he was happy. I don't think they were happy, and they just needed to go their separate ways. But that was the point that really irked me, Doctor Trey, was that part of the Tony kann speech, because it just felt like it was unnecessary and did not need to be aired out to the television audience or the live audience. In my opinion, Yeah, like I like I said, I didn't have an issue with See Him Punk being fired. Really like you said, it wasn't working out. It's two different philosophies of style of wrestling. It's just they don't they don't Mesh. I did commend Tony Kahn for getting out in front of it, letting the live crowd you know, about it before it came out in the dirtys or you know, and like you said, the little video thing before collision about like I commend him all that. You're absolutely right though about the way he said what he said, because when I read the statement, out of everything, I read the statement, you know it certainly those is he was fired with cause, which means we have an excuse to get rid of you a dot Paig, Because that was the hold up after brawl out was Punk wanted his money and they didn't want to pay him his entire contract, and this was a way to for them to get out from under the contract without having to pay him and them trying to save face. But this is also the same company, Jeff that you go back to their early days, and you and I sat here and
47:07 got onto that because they would poke at WWE all the time, and when WW fired back, they would get hurt, their feelings would get hurt. That's how this company's run like. This is how they've been the entire time. Is uha, keep poking, keep poking, but don't you dare come back at us. That's it's you're right like this, Wrestling is not. This is one of the things. I hear this on the Indians all side, like wrestlings for everybody, it's not. Wrestling is not per Working in the wrestling business is not for everybody. You have to have a thick skin. You have to have the ability to take criticism. You have to have the ability to go, hey, if I run my about this guy might punch me. Because that's how the wrestling business was rung. That's why it was so people inside know all the secrets and how the magic tricks are done.
48:05 And in this world where we expose everything. Look, Vince McMahon let Brett Hart punch him in the face. That's another one I forgot. Yep, that's the difference between Tony conn and busy Man. Vince knew he did something that would you know, piss off Brett Brett. He let Brett swing on him, just let him do it, basic told him to do it and didn't file charges. No, if your life is being threatened, Jeff, if somebody's threatening your life, don't you at least follow a police reporting. Yeah, I mean the famous line is Brett Hart said, don't let tell that mf or not to come in here. Yeah, you know, And that's to me like it was. It was a cop out. It was a way to make them look good. And that's what happens when you have a bunch of like hundred and fifty pound people running the wrestling business.
48:53 Yeah, it was. It was legal momo jumbo. That's probably going to lead to a court issue. And that's I mean, AWS playing it strategically rightfully so and he came out and did that, and the pawns and this entire thing are US fans. So I did not like that at all. I thought everything else has been whatever. They just needed to go their separate ways and that's what they're doing. I thought that mumbo jumbo was bullshit, and I just thought it was more for again when this goes to eventual court. There's been a lot of rumors and stories that have been floating out there that I guess Punk may have been trying to get out of his contract from AW. Back in December, there were reports that he was trying to go back to WWW. He was gonna return at the Royal Rumble and Kevin Owens is going to eliminate him, which would lead to a program and WrestleMania.
49:40 We do know that he did show up, see him Punk to WWW when they were in town Chicago. We talked about here on the podcast. That was confirmed by PW Insider. I believe that Punk did briefly speak with Triple H. I doubt they were like, Hey, I'm going to be fired in a couple of months, can I come back? And Triple H was like, sure, man, let's talk about at it. So you know, Punk is now a free agent, Doctor Trey and that's that's a whole discussion, this all, what's next. There are reports of higher ups in WE that don't want him back. There's reports out there that I guess Punk confronted William Regal when he when he came to a W and called him a Triple H stooge, refused to, you know, shake his hand. We know the Triple H and CM Punk Havin had the greatest of relationship, but the Devil's advocate. This all is that this is we and we know that controversy creates cash, and they've let a lot of people back in that door that they've had issues with, whether the Bhul Cooke and Altered Warrior, Brett Hart, they've all returned at some point. Will they open the door again to see him Punk or see him Punk the one guy that has made the McMahon family, including Triple H. He's part of that family. Go Nope, this is it. This is where I draw the line to say, and that asshole's not coming back. You know, don't forget cm Punk also visited Impact Wrestling. That's saying we in that he visited w because both shows were in town. So I mean the Impact Zone could welcome back to see Impunk and maybe even Julio di Naro, Raven Clockwork of Orange Match. Let's go there, you go? Uh, Like that would be the if you
51:15 talk about the greatest returned into a company wrestling history, it would be c im Punk going back to Impact of all places. Uh. But you know, one of the one of the things you said they're about, like, you know, it's about money. That's the biggest between AW and ww Wwe eventually will put feelings aside for the good of the company and not to mention we have the ww Endeavor merger which owns UFC, and Punk and Dana White apparently still have a good relationship, you know. So it's like it's kind of like see him Punk with Fox when he got them backstage, I had a gurlzer with Fox. They you know, pumped hibout the w EC to give him a spot on the show. So that's why he was under a Fox contracting, not a w w E contract. So money cures ailments, I mean, is really the stuff I mean there is, Okay, maybe maybe Punks on a little bit higher level than what Goldberg said about w tow for Deck for almost a decade and then made a return, you know.
52:19 I mean, I mean in Goldberg in Triple H literally wanted to fight each other. Punk and Triple I mean the things line up like eventually money cures all ailments because guess what, I may hate you, but if I'm gonna get to pick payday out of it, I'll put my feelings aside. It's the one thing you and I say here and talked about, why is not Punk in Obega at all in a Wembley Stadium biggest money match you've had and you just put aside because somebody's feelings gould have gotten hurt. It makes no sense to me, like I'm trying to run a business, not a friendship. And I think that's where eight of you misses the boat. Sometimes they don't capitalize on stuff to make their product even bigger for the sake of hurting somebody's feelings. Last thing I want to talk about here, doctor Trey, is how does this entire situation affect the legacy of cmpunk in your mind?
53:15 If he ends up back in WWW and has a decent run, I think people look at it as like, yeah, him and adw is like oil and water. It doesn't mesh and it was probably a bad decision on everybody. If he does not go back to W, then this is that, you know, that black cloud that's going to linger over him, you know, for as long as he's doing autograph signings and book signings and things like that. Like it kind of depends if there is a next chapter to the book of cmpunk and what that chapter is. If he goes back to Impact, it has a two year run and Impact and Impact World Champion, people won't remember it fifteen years from now. They'll be like, oh, yeah, I member, he got fired from ADW. But if he pops into what we're September, if he shows up at the Royal Rumble this year and gets that huge response and ends up in one of the featured matches at Wrestle Media, hey, maybe even the last match on a Wrestle Media night.
54:14 We're not gonna like, We're just gonna look at the AW. Sub was like, yeah, it's kind of like when WCW had issues with half their roster and people were bailing out because it was poorly run. That's I literally think that's where the crossroads and all this is is the next chapter of the CM punk. Keep in mind, if these reports are true, his experience in AW was so bad that he was willing to go back to way. I think that's like the way that we summ it up here, the place that almost killed him. Yeah yeah, and actually where he actually felt his life was being threatened. Yeah, and then that was like really deep bad blood there at some points. I mean, they went to court with one night, which again they fired him on honeymoon they did, yeah, I mean, and I mean really bad stuff that went on between those two.
55:07 So last week I asked, you did we just see see him Punk's last match in AW. I now ask you in general, Doctor Trey, have we watched the imp Punk's last resting match? No, because other companies look at this and they see how what was the numbers on Collision? How much did the ratings drop after they bade the announcement, Like there's like forty percent drop or something like that. There's some weird number like that when they now see him Punk was fired, like the ratings drop. Other companies look at that, go, well, obviously, that means he's a draw. If he can draw money for us, why would we not figure out some way to use him. This would be a huge slap in the face for w WE to a W two if they brought back Punk. In my opinion, Oh yeah, not on I mean, you're you're you're going So you say in the last two years, you could take Cody Rhodes and see him Punk from AW send me up arguably the two of the three biggest names that have walked in the door of that company, Because I will tell you I think Cody and seem Punk are bigger names than John Mockley. J Jericho'll be the only one I put in those three, they're a bigger name than Brian Danielson.
56:19 Agree. So, so two of the three biggest names your company has had walked out of the door. One walked out willingly despite how much money you offered him to stay, and the other one was so miserable he tried to figure out a way to get fired and had already gone to two other companies while under contract to figure out a way to get there. Well, okay, so you since you said that, I brought it up on last week's show that I felt like he was looking for ways to get fired. It just felt like that based on the stories. Do you think Seampunk was looking to get fired by aw Ah not. I don't think see him Punk was actually actively trying to get fired, because there's ways of doing that.
57:00 I think that, based on what happened at all in he had just hit his breaking point, like all this, like the meeting, the travel shit, there's twenty two year old popping off at the mouth at him and him feeling like like nobody had his back in any of this other than FTR. Yeah, at that point I think he was just like, fucking I'm done. I think he kept trying to make it work because he was. I mean, Collision was a cohesive. That was a really great show. The last couple of episodes have not been good. Yeah, and he hasn't really been around to help out on those, like the stuff that he was supposed to get therefore helping out on and you know an FDR had a hand in.
57:42 Those were fantastic shows and really good television, great announcing storyline and I enjoyed it. Yeah, and that to me shows he was trying to make it work. It's like when you work like I don't. I I've been in places where I'm like I'm busting my ass, and every time I do something good in my job, it feels like somebody's there to undermine me. And you just get to a breaking point and you're just like, strew it. If you fire me, you fire me. I don't care. And I think after what happened, I think what happened at all in he was just like, strew it. I'm done. I don't care what you do. At this point, he did say I quit. That's what they were saying as I quit, and Tony Kama was like, no, you don't quit, You're fired. The Rick Flaire, I'm so fire I don't you fire me. I'm already fired. Fire me, I'm already fired. So the chapter's over for now. I guess the AW CM punk chapter is officially over. I'm kind of mind blown because I think if there was any organization or promotion where CM punk would like do really well and it would be a w So, I mean, we'll never truly know, you know, who's at fault here, AW or CM Punk, A little of both probably you know somewhere is in the middle. Is the truth shocking that this could not work itself out at some point and do what's right. But I've been saying that for a while. It's like, how the hell could they be going to Wembley and it's so bad that the elite and Sampunk can't get together and
59:15 try to make some money. I never understood that, and maybe maybe that's where I lean a little bit more towards Sampunk, because everything that we're hearing is that Punk did want to meet with him, didn't want to work with him. That's why he had that really bad promo about hanging on page that we covered a couple of weeks ago in the show. After the Collision went off the air, I don't know. I don't know how you don't capitalize on and I guess it's that bad that they just don't want to do anything. So we'll see why this is gonna be something we're gonna be talking about for the next couple of weeks for sure, the verifications. Who knows. There's reports out there that Sampunk is supposed to be responding soon and it's going to be quote explosive. I don't know if it's as explosive as that diarrhea that ground to that delta plane orever the hell that was a couple of days ago. Maybe it's it's very explosive, but hopefully it doesn't lead to lead any legal ramifications like the last time. So I'm sure his lawyer, cempunks lawyers probably taking a look at what this statement's gonna before he comes out and says anything. But the cm punk era in all elite wrestling is over, and it feels like over before it ever started, quite honestly, because a lot of injury time. Yeah, it's it's up. It's sad. It's ultimately it's sad. I thought this was gonna really be great for AW and it's been quite the opposite. With that, let's close up shop on this week's ssition the podcast, we'll get a couple of plugs and spots out of the way. You can Downland show every Thursday or Friday at real Guy Ray dot com, uh Russell Chattanett on Twitter, or the Still Realist Show iTunes feed don't forget to rate, review and subscribe to upcoming charts on iTunes.
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