June 8, 2023
CM Punk is back, so now what? | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #695 – 6/8/23
On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show, Jeff & Dr. Trey Franklin:
- -- CM Punk is back, so now what?
- -- To brand split AEW or not to brand split AEW...that is the question!
- -- Danielson/Okada set for Forbidden Door 2
- -- What is the...
On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show, Jeff & Dr. Trey Franklin:
- -- CM Punk is back, so now what?
- -- To brand split AEW or not to brand split AEW...that is the question!
- -- Danielson/Okada set for Forbidden Door 2
- -- What is the most compelling move for Jey Uso's decision on SmackDown?
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It's stud Welcome everybody. Welcome to
this week's edition The Store Waldo Show Episodember
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six hundred ninety five for June eight, two twenty three. Welcome to this
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week's edition of The ass Are two
for you. I am one after show.
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I am jack Back. Do you
mind every single week in my coast,
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the one only doctor Trey Franklin,
Doctor Trey. Are you a dynamite
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or collision person? My friend,
I am more of an impact. Uh,
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guy, I get, I don't
know, you're not raw? Yeah,
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I mean every every every wrestling show
has to sound like a car crash
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or some kind of sodomization type thing. I would you know. I had
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a question for you. I was
gonna ask you because I was worried about
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you today. Okay, are you
walking around with your respirator on in Connecticut
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today? So yeah, for those
not in the United States, I guess
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let's peel back to the current here. So wildfires from Canada. Hope everybody
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that is a Canadian listener of SRT
is doing all right. The smoke is
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making its way down to where I
live here in the Northeast. And as
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I turn around and I look outside
my window, from the room that I'm
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recording in my office. It is
hazy. It is like dark. It's
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it's like the sky looks the way
it does just before a thunderstorm in the
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summertime. But it's been that way
for over twenty four plus hours, and
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when you go outside, it just
smells like you're walking into one big camp
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fire. So no respirator. However, it did not take the dog out
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for a long walk. Don't want
her to get all messed up, and
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have refrained from going out so much
because as I look on my phone and
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this is like, I guess nerdy
here stuff. But um a QI is
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the way that we measure like air
quality. The air quality index a qui
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UM over three hundred is considered hazardous. Presently, where I live is three
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sixty four. So that is one
of the most highly polluted air quality areas
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in the world today. I think
it's number one, is the area that
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I live in, Doctor try.
I mean, I'm watching the news,
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and you know, of course they
don't put guys in Connecticut. They put
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people in the Bronx. And in
Manhattan, it's just Manhattan's just New York
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and they're showing it and everything and
we like our our weatherman down here in
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Alabama locally is kind of like a
legend. Like the dudes are fans.
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Maybe the best weatherman I've ever seen
in my life when it comes to reports
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and and uh actually seemed like he
cares about the people. And he was
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like, we are actually going to
get some of that stuff in Huntsville over
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the weekend. And I'm like,
I don't even know if Huntsville knows.
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Were like Canada is like it's crazy, it's a whole other world. But
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that you're just seeing the reports and
the Yankees game getting canceled and everything else
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because we are quality. I'm like, well, uh, we beat India
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at something, I guess, So
there you go, we did it.
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High fives all around. Doctor.
They actually canceled a sports game that was
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taking place indoors though w NBA at
w NBA game, it's like in Barclays
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in Brooklyn. Now granted the people
have to travel to get there canceled,
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so it's it's crazy. And like
inside my place, inside my fiance's workplace
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as well, like even though we're
inside, you can faintly smell smoke.
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It's it's bananas, it's um you
know what, but at this point,
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fuck it, right, I mean, if we went through a global pandemic,
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I mean, what's this to me
at this point? Right? I
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mean, I mean everybody's got masked
later around, although they're not quality of
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Oh that's just probably the question.
What draws better in the Northeast a w
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NBA game or a GCW show.
Probably GCW show. Yeah, so they're
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they're protecting the eighty five people that
were going to go out to the Liberty
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Game to night. Yeah. Probably. I mean w W NBA is going
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doing well. I mean, I
guess I probably shouldn't have said that,
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But GCW I think would be more
popular. I don't know. We actually
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we'll find out they're actually coming back
to Alabama here next But we just had
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a AW Life show. I was
just gonna say, AW was in town.
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Weren't they. Yeah. I did
not go because I have a job
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on. Like a lot of the
people in Alabama, I couldn't make it.
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But I do know h Conrad's Thompson's
part time. I know Conrad was
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there. I know that his UH
co host on all of his shows,
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Cassie Okay, was there. So
I know quite a few people that went
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to the show. Tony Kahn was
there from reports I got, but I
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was not there, so once again, not a special invite. I can't
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even get on AW presents Ring of
Honor, So I'm a little disappoint what's
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the What are you hearing from people? Like? Do they enjoy the show?
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Yeah? They said the show is
good, A lot of it.
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I mean they, I mean Darby
was there. I don't remember. Jeff
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Jarrett was there like some other people. It was not the top top guys,
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but and I don't mean FTR,
I mean like legitimately like the main
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event guys, but you know,
the upper mid card guys show is pretty
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good. They also had some of
their younger talents on the show, so
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some matches were not so good but
didn't draw fantastic, but didn't drop bad.
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Like it was about nine hundred thirteen
hundred people from from what I read,
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so better than us at Rockets City, but not quite to what WW
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typically draws when they come to Huntsville. Yeah, weird times for AW right
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now. Obviously, a couple of
weeks ago we talked about the attendance from
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AW double or nothing. There's reports
that some of the shows for the upcoming
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Canada Swing the debut in Canada like
that, they've only sold seven hundred tickets,
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which is mind boggling. Like I
know, AW creatively hasn't been hitting
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on all cylinders lately, but I
wouldn't have figured that seven hundred people would
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just be buying tickets right now for
one of the Canada shows. So hopefully
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that improves. Which kind of go
ahead, doctor try as I'll say,
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I mean, once the game Canada
is on fire? True, so true,
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maybe they end up canceling that for
all we know? Yeah, a
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little bit. Yeah, so getting
right into AW with that said, somebody
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that could help those ticket sales,
but I guess he hasn't because those are
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collision shows. Is one cmpunk We
talked about it towards the end of the
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show last week. It kind of
gets stuffed to weigh with everything that was
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going on with or nothing, NXC
Battleground and Night of Champions. But okay,
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here we are now, Dot Trey, We've got a full slate of
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hat. We've had some time to
really think about this, and we got
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to ask ourselves what is next for
cmpunk in AW? Is it heal?
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Is it Babyface? What does his
first feud. Looks like there's reports out
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there right now that the plan tentatively
could be that his first match, which
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by the time everybody listens to this
will have bell already been announced. We're
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recording it before Dynamite this week,
is or excusing the main event for Collision,
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which I assume has cmpunk in it. But there's reports out the right
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now that it would be Cumpunk and
FTR feeding with Bullet Club Gold for a
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little bit, Jay White, Juice
Robinson, and there's supposed to be wrestlers
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that will be added to Bullet Club
Gold soon. I want to be shocked
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that maybe we get a turn of
a Ricky Starks, maybe he sides with
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Juice and Jay White in this feud
with FTR. What are your thoughts,
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Doctor Trey? What what's next?
We've we've got the word out Sumpunk is
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coming back. What does he come
back as a heel? A baby face?
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Who does he feud with? What's
the direction of punk over these next
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several weeks as he makes his return
back in a professional wrest and after brawl
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out. So I mean to me, I think since it's gonna be Collision
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and it's gonna be in Chicago.
He asked to kind of come back as
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a baby face. I think though, as collision progresses and he sees they
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see what the crowd responses in other
areas, that that may change. But
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you know, there there is quite
a lot of fans that still love Cumpunk,
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And you know, we talked to
going back to the brawl out everything
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else. Like I found logic,
and I didn't hate what he said.
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I hated how he said it and
presented it, but there's a lot of
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truth in that. I think the
older generation probably you know, goes along
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with that. So I'm to me, you know, you bring back in
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his baby faces, see what the
crowd does. I mean, the two
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money matches to me are going to
be to get him and Omega and him
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and Jericho. So and I know
reportedly him and Jericho have patched things up
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or at least come to a mutual
understanding, but hey, get him back
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in the ring, get him back
out there with FTR, let him do
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like, let him help elevate j
White, because I think Jay White's been
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struggling in aw UM and then you
know, move on to Jericho and then
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build up to get to Omega at
some point, but it is ironic that
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if they do. From Punk and
FTR, I mean that's that was the
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six man match where he fracture his
ankle in so kind of weird that they're
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going right back into the sixth man
thing. But those are his guys,
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those are those are the guys that
buy in and you want us surround yourself
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with people that you trust. So
it makes a lot of sense in that
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way. So kind of jumping forward
here in regards to Cehimfunk return to AW
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to me this these next three months
from the moment he returned Earns too,
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once we get a clear picture of
his direction for all in at Wembley Stadium
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in London and all out in Chicago
is going to be the most telling of
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where things take themselves going forward.
I would think that if I'm Tony Con,
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if I'm aw, if I want
to get the most bang for my
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buck for CM Punk's return in the
next three months, Doctor Trey, the
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seeds have to be planted, the
build needs to start happening, then the
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matches need to be announced. That
it is either he, as you pointed
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out, takes on Kenny Omega in
a feud and in a match, or
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it's he an FTR taking on the
Bucks and Omega. That is the money.
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But if that doesn't happen, this
to me just screams like, Okay,
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if this isn't happening now, it
will never happen, And what the
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hell is the environment of aw right
now? This to me is a very
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crucial time, Like if we don't
get that elite Punk feud nearly immediately upon
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his return, then we're never going
to have it, Doctor Troy. Yeah,
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and you said all outs in Chicago. I believe it is. I
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would imagine, So I'll double check
that just to make sure. Because for
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me, like I look at like, Okay, if I'm trying to fill
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Wembley Stadium up and I need I
need a marketing matchup, you can do
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Punk and Jericho Wembley Stadium and those
diehard fans are income and then that also
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draws the casual fans in because hell, that's a WrestleMania rematch in Wembley Stadium.
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There you get all out. It's
like, yeah, Omega and Punk
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would be great. But here's the
thing. This is where the egos get
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involved. Punk is not going to
get booed in Chicago against Kenny Omega and
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Omega and the Bucks are baby faces
right now? Could they switch? Because
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if we just did a whole don
callis they we just did like we just
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reunited the elite? Do you flip
them because going into Chicago, you know
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Punk's not going to get food?
Or do you treat it like Bret Hart
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in Canada when he's a heel?
But then do you then make Punk a
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heel heading into all Out? And
if you don't pull the trigger now,
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by the time you do get ready
to pull the trigger, is there still
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going to be enough fervor and interest
in that match to really capitalize on it.
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So it's really they've kind of I
don't they booked themselves in the corner,
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But you know, you're right,
it's really interesting to see what they
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do with Punk to have his return
in Chicago and All Out in Chicago,
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because you really he's not going to
be a heel in those two places.
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So do you just do the Bret
Heart approach or do you just run with
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it let him be a baby face? It's basically what they do with MGF
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right in Long Island and everywhere else
is the Bret Heart approach. And in
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ninety seven for Canada. Yeah,
it's it's really telling right now, because
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I think once he returns, you're
going to see what the atmosphere, what
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the playing field is for AW,
at least in the short term, which
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has potential effects for the long term, because if Punk is creatively kept away
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from the elite, then that to
me again screams well one or both parties
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never want to work with one another
ever again, or ever in general,
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because I don't work all them ever
working with one another, and the good
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for the company of controversy creates cash
is not happening. I guess there's always
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a case that maybe six months,
nine months, twelve months from now,
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that maybe they feud, but at
that point I feel like the ship would
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have been sailed, right. I
Mean, the reason why Bret and Shawn
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worked is because despite all the backstage
crap in ninety seven and ninety six,
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they were still working with one other
in feuds and in the ring, and
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they were taking shots that were very, very telling in the ring on the
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microphone like this. To me,
this is a game saving moment for AW.
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Doctor Tree. I mean, this
is what wrestling fans want to see.
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People love drama. There's a reason
why a lot of reality shows are
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very popular nowadays is because of the
drama. There is some real life drama
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behind all this, and the best
way to capitalize is to make money off
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of it and feud Like I remember
when Steve Austin came back in two thousand
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and two after he left the company, took his ball and went home,
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maybe it was oh three, and
he started feuding with Eric Bischoff, and
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because prior to all that, it
was like, well, we heard the
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stories. He was given the FedEx
package or FedEx envelope and was fired,
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and then WWE capitalized on it.
Eric Bischoff himself just tummy to we is
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it's his line, right, Controversy
creates cash. He came WWE, and
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that's something we never thought would happen, and there was some really good business
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made because of it. And there
was a lot of drama, real life
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trauma that brought itself into the into
the creative of WWE, and everybody worked
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themselves into what was best for business
for lack of better terms, So I
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don't know, man, I just
feel like if if they don't capitalize on
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this in the next three months,
I just don't see it ever happening,
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and if it does happen, it's
not going to be the same buzz that
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it once was. So this is
very telling talented for awn C and Punk
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Doctor. Try. Yeah, I
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I'm like, you know, if
I was given the opportunity to present this
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and they say, hey, we
can't do it right now, but let's
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build towards all in or you know, double or nothing, We're going to
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build towards that, and I have
a nine month build, I'm like,
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all right, cool. That gives
me the ability to kind of figure out
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who Tony who wants to be the
baby face, who he wants to be
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a heel And you can start planning
seeds earlier, you know, and do
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a little bit of that long term
story telling that you know we love WW
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with to get to that point,
because then you can circle back to all
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this stuff and people like God,
this is you can build the anticipation to
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get to it. You know,
if you do it early, it's still
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going to do gangbusters. But you
know, there is a way to do
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it long term where it works.
But right now, like I said,
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if you have both these, you
know, with the elite being baby phases
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and Punk and FDRB and baby phases
to then try to shotgun it. You
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know it's gonna lose part of its
luster. So there are ways of doing
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it long term where it still works, but you actually helps set start planning
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the seed right now. And I
would really love them for them to do
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a draft and literally have Punk and
Omega drafting sides, because that could really
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leap to it as well. If
you did a long term version, well,
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that takes us into our next story
here, which I don't think that
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they've done a draft that's played out
on television. I think there's a draft
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that is played out behind the scenes
based on clicks, friendliness, who likes
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who. So there's a lot of
discussion right now whether or not AW is
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going to conduct a brand split with
the addition of Saturday Night Collision coming to
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our airwaves in ten days less than
ten days now on June the seventeenth.
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I'm in favor of the brand splint, Doctor Trey. I feel like there's
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been a lot of wrestlers that have
fallen to the wayside that I would love
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to see on television. Each week
we keep seeing the same wrestlers. Whether
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I really enjoy watch him on television
like a Orange Cassidy and a sort of
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Stricklin or sometimes I just don't get
it with like a guy such as Jungle
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Boy, and other stars aren't being
pushed along that where they should be.
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You know, there's been a lot
of storylines that have just kind of fallen
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off, a lot of momentum that
has been derailed. You mentioned Jay White.
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I could not agree more. To
me, he's one of the hottest
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free agents to hit the market and
sometime comes to aw and he's been floundering
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a little bit. I mean,
I like him being paired with Ricky Starks,
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but a j White to me,
and I don't I get that.
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This isn't with every Rustling fan because
they don't watch New Japan is a upper
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mid card slash main event talent.
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dynamite collision, whatever you want to
call it. But should they do
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it, Doctor Trey? Ultimately,
should they do it is backstage politics.
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The reason why they should do it
is having way too many wrestlers on your
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roster and not showcasing them why they
should do it, or should they not
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do it at all? And just
get it all together create you know,
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backstage PC wise, create a peaceful
atmosphere and also creatively better utilize their talent
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each and every week. See like
so in twelve years here in the show,
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like, I've always been a proponent
of the brand splits when it comes
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like WW because when you have eighty
guy is on your main roster, you're
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always going to focus on the people
that you know draw and you're less likely
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to take risks to build up talent. So but on that side, there
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was always the buckstops with one guy. And I know that's been said on
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eight of you, but in reality
right now it feels like the roster's naturally
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torn in half. So isn't the
right thing to do, I think for
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the good of the company to actually
get more TV time for some guys that
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maybe are underutilized, like we talked
about. Yeah, it's great. The
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reasoning though if it is legitimately like
I can't work with them, I can't
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work with him. I want to
be on this show, I want to
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be on that show, is not
because once again it creates that whole the
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wrestlers are running the asylums, you
know, mentality, and then what if
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you're a guy that is neutral and
you get drafted to Collision and all of
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a sudden, Kenny's calling you be
like, Hey, did you tell Tony
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you wanted to be there because you
don't like me? Like? It kind
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of creates a a ground for egos
to be hurt. If somebody's like,
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nah, man, Don'ty just put
me there? Oh? I don't know.
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I kind of heard that you said
something to TK about you know,
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you want to be on that show
and not my show. It does create
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that as well. So I think, like I said, for the prosperity
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of the company and the prosperity some
under ULI's talent Brandsplo's great, But for
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the reasoning to do it, maybe
not so much. That's a trade.
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This is like a weird look for
aw right, Like that, there's so
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much hinging on perceived backstage politics right
now. I mean, for all we
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know, we could be sitting here
right now and see him. Punk and
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the elite have spoken, they are
inclined to work together. All the stuff
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that we're seeing heading into it is
just to kind of feed the fire fan
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the flames of an eventual feud and
we're all being worked which is great if
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that is the case. But if
it's not and that this is legitimate,
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is this really a poor reflection of
an organization arresting promotion like this, Yeah,
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because you know what it reminds me
of, And you may have to
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go back into your football history books, but like the old Eagles Dream team
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when they had Jonathan Wenab and Vince
Young and they had all this collection of
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talent and they just couldn't do anything
right, Like they were constantly floundering,
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and they happened to blow the team
up at the end of the year.
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That's kind of how it feels right
now, where like, you know,
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you're kind of catering to the workers
and that's not always the best thing to
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do in business. Now you're abotually
right, like could this be a work?
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The whole thing be a work and
everything be copasetic on the inside.
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I don't know if everything's peg keen, but they might have figured a way
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to work together and they're just working
the audience, because I mean, this
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is a company that can keep a
secret. When they don't want something to
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get out, it doesn't get out. And that's always boggled me. Boggle
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my mind with all of this,
is that like, there's all these leagues
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and I'm like, wait, we
didn't know about Brody Lee. We didn't
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know about you know, a lot
of stuff that they don't want getting out
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unless it comes unless Tony Kahn puts
it out there. So I'm always kind
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of puzzled that when stuff comes out
from AW is it like legitimate or is
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it a work today that I guess
I don't know if I want to say
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they're better at it than the other
company, but I think it's legitimate.
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Yeah, I do, I think, to me, God, I hate
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saying this because I love watching a
w each and every week, and I'm
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happy with what they've done for the
wrestling world by being a promotion that is
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a legit number two and opening doors
for all different talents to keep the job
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going. And it makes it better
for the for the wrestling world, it
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makes it better for the wrestling fans. But I think this is a reflection
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of a company that has a lot
of people on the roster that lacked maybe
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maturity and professionalism that we see in
a WWE Iron cloud environment. And granted
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there's always stuff that squeaks out of
w E, but maybe the NXC WWPC
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system teaches folks on how to be
professional and how to carry yourself behind the
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scenes and what to do and what
to say when it comes to the dirt
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cheats, because I mean that run
after brawl Out was nuts with the Sammy
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Cavara Entrede stuff, Eddie Kingston,
like NonStop. It was like, is
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am I being worked here? Or
is this company just an environment wise like
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just a complete shit show, because
you know, all encompassing and going full
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circle here. Like you and I
still watch the company. We will will
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tune in each and every week and
be fans of the company. But we
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mentioned the attendance issues and I know
that it gets heat because it's like,
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okay, yeah, they're having troubles
in parts of Canada, but they just
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opened up more tickets and have sold
sixty five thou in Wembley Stadium. But
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I don't know that could be all
just a way to send a message to
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be there first for the first UK
show. Maybe it's secondary market or if
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it's legit, sixty five thousand awesome, but it doesn't make sense for fans
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not to show up for double or
nothing and their debut Canada Swing the Canada
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tour doing a debut tour all through
Canada and to have reportedly sold just seven
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hundred tickets for one of the Dynamites
does not make sense. Maybe this is
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the domino effect of all that bullshit
that happened in the Fall and the Winner
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of last Year and really poor creative
doctor Trey. It's it's a head scratcher,
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no that like when you look at
it, it's it's reality television.
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And you know, look, you
get that reality show that kind of catches
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fire and everybody watches it, and
then after a while you're like, I'm
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just kind of sick of all the
drama and the vs. The people start
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to tune it out because you know, you watch the shows and you're like,
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you know, like you mentioned earlier, like why is Jungle Boy always
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being feat You know, it's like
certain guys they like, why are they
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being pushed? But then other people
aren't being pushed, and you just you
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get frustrated, and you know,
ww's gone through. I mean there's times
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that you and I have watched the
show six, seven, eight years ago
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and we're like, dear God,
this is god awful. So there is
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those elements of frustration and then the
drama and then he was like, look,
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I'll come back to you when you're
crafted together. That's why if you
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have a favorite restaurant and all of
a sudden the service gets terrible, in
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the foods bad, you're just like, Okay, I can't quit you completely,
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but yeah, I'm gonna take a
break into I see some Google reviews
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or some Yelp reviews that you guys
have got your stuff together. So I
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kind of feel like that's where a
lot of the middle ground fans that you
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got your die hards that are going
to tune in h every week. But
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those middle ground fans that don't really
have that overwhelming affection for it are probably
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just kind of like, look,
you guys, figure it out and I'll
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come back. Until then, I'll
just I mean, other wrestling right now
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is so good you don't need an
alternative to appease your appetite. So we're
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both on board with the brand split
ultimately, right, I think for the
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good of the company, you have
to do it. Yeah. I think
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if you just look from the wrestling
perspective, let's try to shelve the drama
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the best we can. I think
to push new stars and get them involved
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is the best thing that could happen
is a brand split for Collision and Dynamite
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because there's guys and girls that I
want to see Wressell more and they're just
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not getting it. And I was
not tuning into Dark and Dark Elevation because
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I felt like it was a waste
of time. And I also feel like
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parts of Rampage are becoming a waste
of time. So if you have two
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solid legit shows and Dynamiting Collision,
hopefully it's the best thing to push newer
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stars or stars that have not been
pushed in some time. For AW.
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So, man, this is a
This is an interesting three months for AW
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Doctor Trey because with the CM punk
stuff, the new show, going into
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all in, going in all out, like this is a potential turning point
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for the company when you really take
step back and look at everything going on.
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Yeah, I don't know if it's
Fork in the Road esque, like
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if this goes sideways, you know, and ratings tank you know? Is
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this is it a turning point towards
pulling the plug? Like I don't know,
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I mean like yeah, I mean
TBS and T and T obviously and
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Warner Brothers in general are very invested
in this product. Succeeding. Otherwise they
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wouldn't give them another two hour time
slot. They wouldn't talk about, you
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know, with the new relaunch of
the HBO Max you know, streaming platform.
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You know, they wouldn't be kind
of investing so much in this brand
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if they weren't themselves invested in success
of it. But at there are times
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that you almost feel like it's too
toxic to touch as well. So it's
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it's it is kind of that turning
point, like, hey, like,
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how does this work, how does
it take off? And can we make
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it succeed on the next level,
because I feel like this company is kind
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of plateau the last year they've they've
kind of hit a ceiling and they haven't
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forgot to push the past that ceiling
yet. So this is an opportunity to
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kind of breakthrough and uh, you
know grab the brass ring. Like just
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to be alluded to by Vince back
in the day switching gears. This past
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Tuesday, two matches were announced for
Forbidden Door two New Japan and All Wrestling
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on I believe it's June the twenty
fifth in Chicago, Illinois, one being
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will Ospray and Kenny Omega and their
third match. There was a match at
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Wrestle Kingdom earlier this year for the
United State Championship from New Japan, and
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I believe there was another one.
I can't remember now. I know this
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is the third one. That's very
terrible of me, but I'm drawing a
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blank on that. Nonetheless, the
second match, this is the one I
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want to talk about, is Brian
Danielson taking on cousin Chica Okada that has
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been announced forbiddenote Door two. Danielson
made the challenge during Dominion for New Japan
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recently, or the Dominion Tour,
and I felt like we talked about this
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a year ago, and to me, this is one of those ultimate wrestling
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dream matches, and I feel like
that it may not have been the same
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00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:21.119
for you, Doctor Trey, But
nonetheless, Danielson Okada has been announced for
401
00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:25.599
me ultimate wrestling dream match. We
don't get many of them nowadays. Is
402
00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:30.480
it for you? Heading into Forbidden
Door? Is Danielson versus Occada a dream
403
00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:37.160
match? I mean from a pure
wrestling standpoint, Yeah, Sometimes these the
404
00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:41.200
super indie show approach where it's like, Hey, I wanna take my best
405
00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:44.880
indie guy and your best indie guy, or from the rain together. I
406
00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:48.319
still like a story now, I
will say I'm more intrigued by it this
407
00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:53.000
year because we have a heel Brian
Danielson as opposed to maybe in the past
408
00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:56.720
and we had the baby faced Brian
Danilsons. Because heel Brian Danilson can do
409
00:29:56.799 --> 00:30:00.519
some you know, sneaky stuff during
the match and get the crowd and riled
410
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:03.720
up against them. Was like that. So I'm a little bit more on
411
00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:07.240
board with it this year. But
yeah, from a pure wrestling standpoint,
412
00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:11.079
this is for me what Aj and
Seth could have been if, you know,
413
00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:12.960
given the time, and we didn't
already kind of have a foregone conclusion
414
00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:18.519
too, who was going over recently
at the pay per view? So for
415
00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:22.400
me ultimate wrestle in Juray match which
end begs the question which ones remained now
416
00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:25.559
from active stars, I don't want
you to be like, well, no,
417
00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:27.279
I would love to see Steve Auston
versus Rick Flair in his prime,
418
00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:30.240
Like no, no, we can't
do that. It's it's impossible. But
419
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:36.519
right now, right what are those
dream matches for me? Seth rons Will
420
00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:40.319
Osprey. They went back and forth
on Twitter over the weekend teasing money in
421
00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:42.680
the bank, like, that's not
happening. There's no way unless Triple H
422
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:48.200
is completely on board with this that
will Osprey is coming to we to wrestle
423
00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:52.680
the week after Forbidden Door to take
on Kenny and Megan. It's then going
424
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:55.279
to take on Seth Rons for the
Role Hiveway Championship. It would be very
425
00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:57.559
cool. They've gone back and forth
on social media for some time. That
426
00:30:57.559 --> 00:31:02.640
would be badass. That is certainly
one that's out there. Kenny Omega,
427
00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:07.839
Seth Rollins, Kenny Omega, Roman
Reigns is out there. You know what
428
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:12.319
other ones remain in your mind right
now? USO's FTR. I think giving
429
00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:18.400
them an actual program, one that
doesn't involve like shaving the other wrestlers back,
430
00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:22.960
would be phenomenal. What are some
of those ultate wrestling dream matches that
431
00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:27.240
remain? Because I felt like Okada
Danielson, I think when you really look
432
00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:30.720
at things, it's like, man, I think this is I think this
433
00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:34.799
is it? Maybe Rollins and Okada
right Like, there's not many left and
434
00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:38.440
it's hard to pick these, but
what are some of your remaining Ultimate Wrestling
435
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:45.720
dream matches? Doctor Trey AJ and
the OC versus the Elite that's up there
436
00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:51.480
for me. Yeah, AJ versus
H. I just had one. Oh.
437
00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:55.000
I love see Brian Danielson and seth
Rawlins. At this point they're growd.
438
00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:56.680
I think they've wrestled in the past, but at this point their careers
439
00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:02.240
I think would be outstanding. Um, I'm trying to think of a couple.
440
00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:05.839
I had a couple other ones.
Um, oh, the New Day
441
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:09.400
and the Elite, like they had
their little exchange a few years ago,
442
00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:15.000
they had their little head to head
gaming thing before aw started. But you
443
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:17.640
know, arguably two of the greatest
tag teams of our generation. You know,
444
00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:23.759
going going at it would be great
as well. Um, I kind
445
00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:28.640
of want to see Wardlow at Roman
as well. Okay, that's an interesting
446
00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:32.640
one. Just like I don't know
if anybody else has the physical attributes that
447
00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:38.960
Roman does as close to what Wardlow
has. UM trying to think of anything
448
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:44.160
else here. Should we throw out
Roman in the Rock? Like, I
449
00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:46.039
mean, it's once again that's one
of those like ones, Like it's kind
450
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:49.839
of what Stone Cold him. Kevin
Owens was like, is it a realistic
451
00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:55.319
match? It's possible, but you
know it's it's just the activeness of the
452
00:32:55.400 --> 00:32:59.880
Rock. Mean, the Rock hasn't
wrestled in what six years, seven years,
453
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:02.759
en plush years, ten years.
Okay, so it's it's a look
454
00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:07.079
as like I'm saying, I want
to see Mickfoley and John Moxley go out.
455
00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:09.799
See this is what I was a
friend. See this is what I
456
00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:13.079
meant. It was like, you
know, Brett Hart versus cum Punk.
457
00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:15.079
It's like, no, that's that's
not happening. But I do think Roman
458
00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:21.880
versus Rock has the potential. Doctor
try no, it's it's I mean,
459
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:24.079
trying to think of some other ones, but yeah, I mean it's it's
460
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:28.559
on the table because Rocks not that
point. Like Rocks maybe the most physically
461
00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:35.319
uh gifted people out of the semi
retired folks. You know what I'm saying,
462
00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:37.200
Like, you know, he can
he still looks the part, he
463
00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:42.400
can still do the job. Um, there's just not a lot of guys
464
00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:45.880
out there that are retired that I
mean. That's like saying, like,
465
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:50.440
oh, Sean Michael, we still
never gotten Shawn Michael's Brian Danielson, Yeah,
466
00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:52.079
you know, yeah, that would
be great. But like you know,
467
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:57.960
in anything with Kenny and aj Or
Seth or Brian Danielson involved, it's
468
00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:00.559
gonna be a Dream Match just because
of how great they are in the ring,
469
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:05.319
uh saying with the USO's FTR,
the Elite New Day, I would
470
00:34:05.319 --> 00:34:08.599
say, Okada Osprey, I'm huge
fans of those guys. Yeah, you
471
00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:13.599
know. Osprey for me is like
when those guys is like when you saw
472
00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:15.039
him go to the next level when
he got bigger, you know, you
473
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:21.079
saw him actually take that step into
like the heavyweight range of professional wrestling.
474
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:24.639
So that's that's great as well.
I mean trying to think if there's anybody
475
00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:31.880
from UH Impact that I want to
see the factor she's really Paul now well,
476
00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:37.639
I mean you know, uh sah. Thanks. Britt Baker, Yeah,
477
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:40.079
that would be cool. And there's
some reports out there today that there
478
00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:46.519
were some serious conversations with Mercedes Money
coming to Forbidden Door prior to her ankle
479
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:51.880
injury suffered new And during the match
with Willow Nightingale to kry the first New
480
00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:54.239
Japan Strong Women's Champion. That would
be cool. I would agree with you
481
00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:59.559
on that one. I think at
Breaker versus any of the top WI stars
482
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:04.440
to me is in there as well, Becky and Seth against Adam Colambritt Baker,
483
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:07.159
that'd be cool that Yeah, we're
all forgeting. We're also forgetting Adam
484
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:10.440
Cole. I'm a big Adam Cole
guy. There's plenty of Adam Cole matches
485
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:14.400
that I think would be badass.
I'm just trying to think, like,
486
00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:20.599
like, who can I put MJF
up against that? Promo wise, like,
487
00:35:20.639 --> 00:35:22.960
I'd love to see m JFF and
the Miss, but then again,
488
00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:27.280
they're both kind of heels, and
Miss isn't as elevated as maybe he should
489
00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:32.320
be. But m JAFF and Rollins
yeah too. I mean m JFF and
490
00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:37.199
Cody and www, yeah, m
JFF and Cody might be one because I
491
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:38.760
mean I know he had the one, you know, a small few with
492
00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:46.559
at that point. M JAFF really
wasn't Cody established m JF. MJF now
493
00:35:46.599 --> 00:35:52.960
has branched out on his own.
Um, try think like Black Cool Combat
494
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:57.599
Club Bloodline. Wow, well,
I mean there's some stuff going on the
495
00:35:57.599 --> 00:36:00.920
Bloodline right now that we'll get to
your momentarily that may change things. But
496
00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:05.920
I think there's plenty of Ultimate Wrestling
Dream matches out there still that remain.
497
00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:08.679
But Okada Danielson for me, was
one of the top ones, and I'm
498
00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:13.480
very excited to see this for Forbidden
Door two in just a couple of weeks,
499
00:36:13.559 --> 00:36:16.679
presented by aw and New Japan Pear
Wrestling Real quick, Hey, real
500
00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:21.039
quick. By the way, So
now that's forbidden Door two. Does that
501
00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:25.559
fall in line with rock Sina too? Like, if it's forbidden but you're
502
00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:29.599
doing it again, is it just
become the door? Well they didn't say
503
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:32.119
that this is once in a lifetime. Yeah, but it is. But
504
00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:36.119
the word forbidden means you shouldn't do
it, but now we're doing it again,
505
00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:39.000
So is it like is it like
the lumbada? Like what'd you started
506
00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:42.880
the forbidden dance? But then everybody
did it for a while? Like I
507
00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:45.480
just I guess, I mean,
I just look at it now. Is
508
00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:51.039
when wrestlers come over to other companies
that are not WWA. Yeah, it's
509
00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:53.000
kind of been the phrase for it
now, right, I know they use
510
00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:57.199
it everywhere now. It's like forbidden
door and the word epic. So those
511
00:36:57.199 --> 00:37:00.559
two things are in line together for
me, I guess in awesome always awesome,
512
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:02.639
it's used. Finally. The last
thing I want to talk about here
513
00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:08.079
in regards the bloodline is on Friday
Night's edition of SmackDown, they are teasing
514
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:13.760
that Jay USSO will be making his
decision on what is next for him.
515
00:37:13.800 --> 00:37:16.159
Will he side with Jimmy Usso,
who was formerly kicked out of the Bloodline
516
00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:22.800
this past week's edition of SmackDown,
or will he align himself with Solo,
517
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:27.639
Skoa and Roman Reigns who ultimately turned
their back on Jimmy as well in that
518
00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:30.280
final segment on SmackDown that was executed
very very well and a great segment,
519
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:36.119
very compelling stuff. So the decision
lingers, Doctor Trey. But I ask,
520
00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:38.800
as a wrestling fan, what is
the most compelling move? What is
521
00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:43.519
going to put you closer to the
edge of your seat than you were previously?
522
00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:45.840
I mean, it's gonna be Jay's
signing with his brother for me,
523
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:51.800
Like, I just don't see it
upside Like I like Jimmy USO. I
524
00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:55.079
think Jimmy us is a fantastic wrestler. But as you and I discussed last
525
00:37:55.079 --> 00:38:00.519
week and we've discussed as long as
it's been going on, Jay's on a
526
00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:05.280
different level right now than what Jimmy
is. Like his facials, the emotion,
527
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:09.639
the storytelling he's doing without wrestling is
a different level than what Jimmy does.
528
00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:14.800
And I think you know, with
you know, I guess kind of
529
00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:19.039
the decision part two since he just
had a decision a few months back,
530
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:22.360
with Sammy now having a decision with
his brother, is you know, compelling
531
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:27.800
story tide because of how good Jay
USO is, So I think that's the
532
00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:30.480
more compelling story line. And to
see the Usos against Solo in Roman,
533
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:35.159
Yeah, I think that is it
for me as well, because if he
534
00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:37.760
sides, If Jay sides with Solo
in Roman, it's like, Okay,
535
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:43.000
where do things go from here?
Right? Like it just doesn't make any
536
00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:45.559
It doesn't make any sense. I
mean, I guess it could be prolonged
537
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:50.760
out a little bit more that three
six months down the line we're talking about
538
00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:52.840
Jay eventually turning on the Bloodline.
But I feel like if there's a time
539
00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:57.920
for the decision to be made,
like this is it, And I expect
540
00:38:58.280 --> 00:39:00.480
this week's edition to SmackDown and have
some pretty decent viewership because of it.
541
00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:07.119
Doctor Try. Yeah, I mean
it's kind of like the SmackDown after elimination
542
00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:14.960
chamber, like what's gonna be the
fallout umber the one with Sammy and turning
543
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:19.440
on Roman Royal Rumble, And to
me, it's kind of in that Vein
544
00:39:19.480 --> 00:39:21.840
where I mean that rating was pretty
good because you want to see what was
545
00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:25.199
going to happen with Roman and Sammy
and everything else. So, I mean,
546
00:39:25.239 --> 00:39:28.519
the fans are bought in on this. Everybody loves its angle. I
547
00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:30.840
thought that's you know, everything happened
last week on SmackDown. That whole closing
548
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:35.760
segment was fantastic and it kind of
went along what we talked about, like
549
00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:40.000
the fact that like Solo is Jimmy
and Jay's brother, but Roman is kind
550
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:45.039
of the big brother. Like it's
it was really good storytelling, and you
551
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:47.719
know, I think I think the
Paul Hayman segment on Monday Night Raw saying
552
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:51.800
he'll fall in line or else,
I thought was good as well. So
553
00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:54.920
it's just been damn good storytelling from
this aspect, And you know, it's
554
00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:58.480
it's fun to watch a show where
you're like, man, I have to
555
00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:01.840
tune in each every week to see
what the drama going on storyline wise is
556
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:06.800
and not just you know, the
really good wrestling. Now. I know
557
00:40:06.840 --> 00:40:13.320
they parodied Good Fellas right during the
stuff leading into WrestleMania they were doing.
558
00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:17.800
The movie parody was for Good Fellas, Like this bloodline is a Mafioso esque
559
00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:22.880
storyline that's taking place, that we're
seeing the family like people being whacked and
560
00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:27.840
turning, and the leader of the
group like losing his mind a little bit.
561
00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:30.519
It's it's some of the most compelling
and riveting stuff I've seen from W
562
00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:37.079
and very complex, different dimensions,
different twists and turns, and I think
563
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:39.519
we all kind of know what the
end result will be, like Roman will
564
00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:44.840
kind of cave in and cause his
empire to collapse around him, and maybe
565
00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:47.920
that's the way he ushers out of
W is a full timer or this state
566
00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:52.400
of a full timer? But I
mean it's some really great stuff, Doctor
567
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:54.400
Trey, And I'm looking forward to
Friday Night's edition of SmackDown, and I
568
00:40:54.440 --> 00:40:59.239
agree with the most compelling move is
for j two side with Jimmy, because,
569
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:01.199
like I said before, if he
doesn't, then what what do we
570
00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:05.000
see next? Who could side with
Jimmy. I can't see Kevin and Sammy
571
00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:10.239
coming over to SmackDown, I guess
no, I mean maybe returning Drew McIntire
572
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:15.480
or somebody. I think Drew's he's
on raw, He's he's raw like for
573
00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:19.840
me. The other question then is
you know, if Jimmy's side or Jay
574
00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:22.760
side to Jimmy and you go basically
two on two. The heels have to
575
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:28.360
get an advantage. And so either
this is the ending of the bloodline and
576
00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:31.679
Roman ends up alone, or they
have to bring in reinforcements. And if
577
00:41:31.679 --> 00:41:36.599
that's the case, like it probably
won't be something from the I mean,
578
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:39.800
there's Jacob faugh two out there on
the independence, but usually at this point
579
00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:45.079
they where he got somebody in developmental
in line to do something. They don't
580
00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:50.480
really have that. So then is
there somebody they bring in, almost as
581
00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:54.639
you know, a Burke for Higher
type approach, to help Roman hang on
582
00:41:54.679 --> 00:41:58.119
to his title as long as possible. If they do to go the route
583
00:41:58.119 --> 00:42:00.920
of splitting the bloodline down the middle, you're gonna hate me for this,
584
00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:05.800
but you've been brought up about like
bringing somebody in, and you're looking at
585
00:42:05.800 --> 00:42:09.079
it from the Roman perspective, well
from the USO's perspective. If like this
586
00:42:09.159 --> 00:42:15.639
becomes a family war between the Annawani
family, what is the likelihood that the
587
00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:19.920
stuff that we're seeing right now actually
does usher or at least open the door
588
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:23.800
for the Rock to return and have
this feud with Roman fighting, having this
589
00:42:23.880 --> 00:42:29.679
civil war amongst his family. It's
possible. But then once again, if
590
00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:32.840
the Rock. The way that works
for me is if Jay turns on Jimmy,
591
00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:38.239
Jay stays with Roman, and then
the Rock comes into basically you know,
592
00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:42.679
say that in reality, he's the
head of the table and what Romans
593
00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:46.239
doing the family is destroying the family. Like, I don't see Rock coming
594
00:42:46.280 --> 00:42:51.400
in to side with Jay and Jimmy
against Roman. It would have to be
595
00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:54.760
where at the end of the day
they're still outnumbered for it to be a
596
00:42:54.800 --> 00:43:00.719
baby faced angle that kind of works. I still have this vision that like
597
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:05.960
Roman, like Rock's mom is ringside
and Roman like rips are apart, and
598
00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:08.480
that's what leads into verbally rips or
apart, not physically. Guys will come
599
00:43:08.519 --> 00:43:15.239
down, and that's what leads to
the Rock from returning to WW Like.
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I just feel like that would be
another compelling layer to It's it's intriguing.
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It's really intriguing stuff. You don't
know where things go. I said it
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before and I'll say it again.
I find Jay was to be the most
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compelling wrestling character in all of the
profession right now, and that's extremely crazy
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because he's just a tag team star
who is slowly but surely starting to break
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out and went from a guy that's
like, man, I can't believe he's
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feuding with Roman, He's in a
w championship match, Like, what is
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this all about too legitimately being someone
I could see as a main eventor going
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forward. So props to everybody involved
with the bloodline because that storyline has been
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awesome and I cannot wait for Friday
SmackDown to check out what is that decision
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this upcoming Friday. With that said, let's get a couple of plugs and
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going on in the wonderful world of
Doctor tre Franklin this week? Well,
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like Jeff said, you follow me
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can find me on Instagram and Facebook, Doctor Trey Franklin when you're on Facebook
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and trips, I got Rocket Sea
Championship Wrestling. We had a really big
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show that the past Saturday as we
are on the fallout from Wrestling Con six.
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Also, you can check out Spartan
Championship Wrestling out of Gas in Alabama,
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one of the shows that myself and
Verry Coof also worked with. So
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two really great shows running here in
the Alabama area. But more important,
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just go check out your locally independent
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Boy who we will for some reason
you start making fun of for no apparent
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reason here on the show. That's
what we do. That's what we do
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Jeff Pack. This is the Still
Real Too Show. Better didn't better, Better
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It's stud Welcome everybody. Welcome to
this week's edition The Store Waldo Show Episodember
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six hundred ninety five for June eight, two twenty three. Welcome to this
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week's edition of The ass Are two
for you. I am one after show.
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I am jack Back. Do you
mind every single week in my coast,
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the one only doctor Trey Franklin,
Doctor Trey. Are you a dynamite
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or collision person? My friend,
I am more of an impact. Uh,
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guy, I get, I don't
know, you're not raw? Yeah,
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I mean every every every wrestling show
has to sound like a car crash
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or some kind of sodomization type thing. I would you know. I had
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a question for you. I was
gonna ask you because I was worried about
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you today. Okay, are you
walking around with your respirator on in Connecticut
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today? So yeah, for those
not in the United States, I guess
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let's peel back to the current here. So wildfires from Canada. Hope everybody
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that is a Canadian listener of SRT
is doing all right. The smoke is
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making its way down to where I
live here in the Northeast. And as
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I turn around and I look outside
my window, from the room that I'm
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recording in my office. It is
hazy. It is like dark. It's
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it's like the sky looks the way
it does just before a thunderstorm in the
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summertime. But it's been that way
for over twenty four plus hours, and
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when you go outside, it just
smells like you're walking into one big camp
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fire. So no respirator. However, it did not take the dog out
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for a long walk. Don't want
her to get all messed up, and
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have refrained from going out so much
because as I look on my phone and
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this is like, I guess nerdy
here stuff. But um a QI is
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the way that we measure like air
quality. The air quality index a qui
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UM over three hundred is considered hazardous. Presently, where I live is three
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sixty four. So that is one
of the most highly polluted air quality areas
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in the world today. I think
it's number one, is the area that
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I live in, Doctor try.
I mean, I'm watching the news,
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and you know, of course they
don't put guys in Connecticut. They put
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people in the Bronx. And in
Manhattan, it's just Manhattan's just New York
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and they're showing it and everything and
we like our our weatherman down here in
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Alabama locally is kind of like a
legend. Like the dudes are fans.
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Maybe the best weatherman I've ever seen
in my life when it comes to reports
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and and uh actually seemed like he
cares about the people. And he was
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like, we are actually going to
get some of that stuff in Huntsville over
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the weekend. And I'm like,
I don't even know if Huntsville knows.
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Were like Canada is like it's crazy, it's a whole other world. But
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that you're just seeing the reports and
the Yankees game getting canceled and everything else
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because we are quality. I'm like, well, uh, we beat India
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at something, I guess, So
there you go, we did it.
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High fives all around. Doctor.
They actually canceled a sports game that was
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taking place indoors though w NBA at
w NBA game, it's like in Barclays
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in Brooklyn. Now granted the people
have to travel to get there canceled,
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so it's it's crazy. And like
inside my place, inside my fiance's workplace
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as well, like even though we're
inside, you can faintly smell smoke.
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It's it's bananas, it's um you
know what, but at this point,
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fuck it, right, I mean, if we went through a global pandemic,
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I mean, what's this to me
at this point? Right? I
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mean, I mean everybody's got masked
later around, although they're not quality of
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Oh that's just probably the question.
What draws better in the Northeast a w
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NBA game or a GCW show.
Probably GCW show. Yeah, so they're
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they're protecting the eighty five people that
were going to go out to the Liberty
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Game to night. Yeah. Probably. I mean w W NBA is going
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doing well. I mean, I
guess I probably shouldn't have said that,
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But GCW I think would be more
popular. I don't know. We actually
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we'll find out they're actually coming back
to Alabama here next But we just had
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a AW Life show. I was
just gonna say, AW was in town.
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Weren't they. Yeah. I did
not go because I have a job
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on. Like a lot of the
people in Alabama, I couldn't make it.
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But I do know h Conrad's Thompson's
part time. I know Conrad was
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there. I know that his UH
co host on all of his shows,
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Cassie Okay, was there. So
I know quite a few people that went
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to the show. Tony Kahn was
there from reports I got, but I
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was not there, so once again, not a special invite. I can't
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even get on AW presents Ring of
Honor, So I'm a little disappoint what's
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the What are you hearing from people? Like? Do they enjoy the show?
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Yeah? They said the show is
good, A lot of it.
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I mean they, I mean Darby
was there. I don't remember. Jeff
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Jarrett was there like some other people. It was not the top top guys,
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but and I don't mean FTR,
I mean like legitimately like the main
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event guys, but you know,
the upper mid card guys show is pretty
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good. They also had some of
their younger talents on the show, so
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some matches were not so good but
didn't draw fantastic, but didn't drop bad.
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Like it was about nine hundred thirteen
hundred people from from what I read,
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so better than us at Rockets City, but not quite to what WW
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typically draws when they come to Huntsville. Yeah, weird times for AW right
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now. Obviously, a couple of
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AW double or nothing. There's reports
that some of the shows for the upcoming
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Canada Swing the debut in Canada like
that, they've only sold seven hundred tickets,
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which is mind boggling. Like I
know, AW creatively hasn't been hitting
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on all cylinders lately, but I
wouldn't have figured that seven hundred people would
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just be buying tickets right now for
one of the Canada shows. So hopefully
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that improves. Which kind of go
ahead, doctor try as I'll say,
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I mean, once the game Canada
is on fire? True, so true,
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maybe they end up canceling that for
all we know? Yeah, a
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little bit. Yeah, so getting
right into AW with that said, somebody
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that could help those ticket sales,
but I guess he hasn't because those are
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collision shows. Is one cmpunk We
talked about it towards the end of the
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show last week. It kind of
gets stuffed to weigh with everything that was
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going on with or nothing, NXC
Battleground and Night of Champions. But okay,
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here we are now, Dot Trey, We've got a full slate of
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hat. We've had some time to
really think about this, and we got
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to ask ourselves what is next for
cmpunk in AW? Is it heal?
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Is it Babyface? What does his
first feud. Looks like there's reports out
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there right now that the plan tentatively
could be that his first match, which
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by the time everybody listens to this
will have bell already been announced. We're
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recording it before Dynamite this week,
is or excusing the main event for Collision,
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which I assume has cmpunk in it. But there's reports out the right
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now that it would be Cumpunk and
FTR feeding with Bullet Club Gold for a
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little bit, Jay White, Juice
Robinson, and there's supposed to be wrestlers
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that will be added to Bullet Club
Gold soon. I want to be shocked
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that maybe we get a turn of
a Ricky Starks, maybe he sides with
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Juice and Jay White in this feud
with FTR. What are your thoughts,
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Doctor Trey? What what's next?
We've we've got the word out Sumpunk is
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coming back. What does he come
back as a heel? A baby face?
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Who does he feud with? What's
the direction of punk over these next
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several weeks as he makes his return
back in a professional wrest and after brawl
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out. So I mean to me, I think since it's gonna be Collision
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and it's gonna be in Chicago.
He asked to kind of come back as
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a baby face. I think though, as collision progresses and he sees they
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see what the crowd responses in other
areas, that that may change. But
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you know, there there is quite
a lot of fans that still love Cumpunk,
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And you know, we talked to
going back to the brawl out everything
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else. Like I found logic,
and I didn't hate what he said.
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I hated how he said it and
presented it, but there's a lot of
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truth in that. I think the
older generation probably you know, goes along
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with that. So I'm to me, you know, you bring back in
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his baby faces, see what the
crowd does. I mean, the two
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money matches to me are going to
be to get him and Omega and him
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and Jericho. So and I know
reportedly him and Jericho have patched things up
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or at least come to a mutual
understanding, but hey, get him back
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in the ring, get him back
out there with FTR, let him do
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like, let him help elevate j
White, because I think Jay White's been
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struggling in aw UM and then you
know, move on to Jericho and then
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build up to get to Omega at
some point, but it is ironic that
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if they do. From Punk and
FTR, I mean that's that was the
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six man match where he fracture his
ankle in so kind of weird that they're
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going right back into the sixth man
thing. But those are his guys,
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those are those are the guys that
buy in and you want us surround yourself
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with people that you trust. So
it makes a lot of sense in that
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way. So kind of jumping forward
here in regards to Cehimfunk return to AW
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to me this these next three months
from the moment he returned Earns too,
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once we get a clear picture of
his direction for all in at Wembley Stadium
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in London and all out in Chicago
is going to be the most telling of
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where things take themselves going forward.
I would think that if I'm Tony Con,
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if I'm aw, if I want
to get the most bang for my
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buck for CM Punk's return in the
next three months, Doctor Trey, the
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seeds have to be planted, the
build needs to start happening, then the
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matches need to be announced. That
it is either he, as you pointed
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out, takes on Kenny Omega in
a feud and in a match, or
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it's he an FTR taking on the
Bucks and Omega. That is the money.
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But if that doesn't happen, this
to me just screams like, Okay,
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if this isn't happening now, it
will never happen, And what the
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hell is the environment of aw right
now? This to me is a very
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crucial time, Like if we don't
get that elite Punk feud nearly immediately upon
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his return, then we're never going
to have it, Doctor Troy. Yeah,
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and you said all outs in Chicago. I believe it is. I
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would imagine, So I'll double check
that just to make sure. Because for
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me, like I look at like, Okay, if I'm trying to fill
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Wembley Stadium up and I need I
need a marketing matchup, you can do
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Punk and Jericho Wembley Stadium and those
diehard fans are income and then that also
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draws the casual fans in because hell, that's a WrestleMania rematch in Wembley Stadium.
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There you get all out. It's
like, yeah, Omega and Punk
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would be great. But here's the
thing. This is where the egos get
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involved. Punk is not going to
get booed in Chicago against Kenny Omega and
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Omega and the Bucks are baby faces
right now? Could they switch? Because
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if we just did a whole don
callis they we just did like we just
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reunited the elite? Do you flip
them because going into Chicago, you know
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Punk's not going to get food?
Or do you treat it like Bret Hart
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in Canada when he's a heel?
But then do you then make Punk a
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heel heading into all Out? And
if you don't pull the trigger now,
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by the time you do get ready
to pull the trigger, is there still
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going to be enough fervor and interest
in that match to really capitalize on it.
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So it's really they've kind of I
don't they booked themselves in the corner,
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But you know, you're right,
it's really interesting to see what they
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do with Punk to have his return
in Chicago and All Out in Chicago,
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because you really he's not going to
be a heel in those two places.
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So do you just do the Bret
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it let him be a baby face? It's basically what they do with MGF
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right in Long Island and everywhere else
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ninety seven for Canada. Yeah,
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I think once he returns, you're
going to see what the atmosphere, what
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the playing field is for AW,
at least in the short term, which
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has potential effects for the long term, because if Punk is creatively kept away
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from the elite, then that to
me again screams well one or both parties
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never want to work with one another
ever again, or ever in general,
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because I don't work all them ever
working with one another, and the good
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for the company of controversy creates cash
is not happening. I guess there's always
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a case that maybe six months,
nine months, twelve months from now,
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that maybe they feud, but at
that point I feel like the ship would
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have been sailed, right. I
Mean, the reason why Bret and Shawn
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worked is because despite all the backstage
crap in ninety seven and ninety six,
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they were still working with one other
in feuds and in the ring, and
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they were taking shots that were very, very telling in the ring on the
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microphone like this. To me,
this is a game saving moment for AW.
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Doctor Tree. I mean, this
is what wrestling fans want to see.
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People love drama. There's a reason
why a lot of reality shows are
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very popular nowadays is because of the
drama. There is some real life drama
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behind all this, and the best
way to capitalize is to make money off
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of it and feud Like I remember
when Steve Austin came back in two thousand
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and two after he left the company, took his ball and went home,
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maybe it was oh three, and
he started feuding with Eric Bischoff, and
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because prior to all that, it
was like, well, we heard the
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stories. He was given the FedEx
package or FedEx envelope and was fired,
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and then WWE capitalized on it.
Eric Bischoff himself just tummy to we is
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it's his line, right, Controversy
creates cash. He came WWE, and
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that's something we never thought would happen, and there was some really good business
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made because of it. And there
was a lot of drama, real life
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trauma that brought itself into the into
the creative of WWE, and everybody worked
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themselves into what was best for business
for lack of better terms, So I
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don't know, man, I just
feel like if if they don't capitalize on
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this in the next three months,
I just don't see it ever happening,
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and if it does happen, it's
not going to be the same buzz that
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it once was. So this is
very telling talented for awn C and Punk
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Doctor. Try. Yeah, I
mean the way of my mind works.
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I'm like, you know, if
I was given the opportunity to present this
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and they say, hey, we
can't do it right now, but let's
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build towards all in or you know, double or nothing, We're going to
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build towards that, and I have
a nine month build, I'm like,
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all right, cool. That gives
me the ability to kind of figure out
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who Tony who wants to be the
baby face, who he wants to be
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a heel And you can start planning
seeds earlier, you know, and do
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a little bit of that long term
story telling that you know we love WW
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with to get to that point,
because then you can circle back to all
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this stuff and people like God,
this is you can build the anticipation to
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get to it. You know,
if you do it early, it's still
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going to do gangbusters. But you
know, there is a way to do
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it long term where it works.
But right now, like I said,
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if you have both these, you
know, with the elite being baby phases
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and Punk and FDRB and baby phases
to then try to shotgun it. You
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know it's gonna lose part of its
luster. So there are ways of doing
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it long term where it still works, but you actually helps set start planning
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the seed right now. And I
would really love them for them to do
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a draft and literally have Punk and
Omega drafting sides, because that could really
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leap to it as well. If
you did a long term version, well,
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that takes us into our next story
here, which I don't think that
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they've done a draft that's played out
on television. I think there's a draft
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that is played out behind the scenes
based on clicks, friendliness, who likes
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who. So there's a lot of
discussion right now whether or not AW is
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going to conduct a brand split with
the addition of Saturday Night Collision coming to
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our airwaves in ten days less than
ten days now on June the seventeenth.
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I'm in favor of the brand splint, Doctor Trey. I feel like there's
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been a lot of wrestlers that have
fallen to the wayside that I would love
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to see on television. Each week
we keep seeing the same wrestlers. Whether
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I really enjoy watch him on television
like a Orange Cassidy and a sort of
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Stricklin or sometimes I just don't get
it with like a guy such as Jungle
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Boy, and other stars aren't being
pushed along that where they should be.
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You know, there's been a lot
of storylines that have just kind of fallen
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off, a lot of momentum that
has been derailed. You mentioned Jay White.
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I could not agree more. To
me, he's one of the hottest
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free agents to hit the market and
sometime comes to aw and he's been floundering
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a little bit. I mean,
I like him being paired with Ricky Starks,
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but a j White to me,
and I don't I get that.
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This isn't with every Rustling fan because
they don't watch New Japan is a upper
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mid card slash main event talent.
So I'm in favor of the brand split,
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dynamite collision, whatever you want to
call it. But should they do
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it, Doctor Trey? Ultimately,
should they do it is backstage politics.
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The reason why they should do it
is having way too many wrestlers on your
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roster and not showcasing them why they
should do it, or should they not
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do it at all? And just
get it all together create you know,
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backstage PC wise, create a peaceful
atmosphere and also creatively better utilize their talent
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each and every week. See like
so in twelve years here in the show,
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like, I've always been a proponent
of the brand splits when it comes
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like WW because when you have eighty
guy is on your main roster, you're
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always going to focus on the people
that you know draw and you're less likely
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to take risks to build up talent. So but on that side, there
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was always the buckstops with one guy. And I know that's been said on
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eight of you, but in reality
right now it feels like the roster's naturally
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torn in half. So isn't the
right thing to do, I think for
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the good of the company to actually
get more TV time for some guys that
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maybe are underutilized, like we talked
about. Yeah, it's great. The
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reasoning though if it is legitimately like
I can't work with them, I can't
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work with him. I want to
be on this show, I want to
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be on that show, is not
because once again it creates that whole the
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wrestlers are running the asylums, you
know, mentality, and then what if
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you're a guy that is neutral and
you get drafted to Collision and all of
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a sudden, Kenny's calling you be
like, Hey, did you tell Tony
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you wanted to be there because you
don't like me? Like? It kind
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of creates a a ground for egos
to be hurt. If somebody's like,
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nah, man, Don'ty just put
me there? Oh? I don't know.
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I kind of heard that you said
something to TK about you know,
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you want to be on that show
and not my show. It does create
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that as well. So I think, like I said, for the prosperity
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of the company and the prosperity some
under ULI's talent Brandsplo's great, But for
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the reasoning to do it, maybe
not so much. That's a trade.
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This is like a weird look for
aw right, Like that, there's so
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much hinging on perceived backstage politics right
now. I mean, for all we
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know, we could be sitting here
right now and see him. Punk and
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the elite have spoken, they are
inclined to work together. All the stuff
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that we're seeing heading into it is
just to kind of feed the fire fan
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the flames of an eventual feud and
we're all being worked which is great if
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that is the case. But if
it's not and that this is legitimate,
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is this really a poor reflection of
an organization arresting promotion like this, Yeah,
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because you know what it reminds me
of, And you may have to
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go back into your football history books, but like the old Eagles Dream team
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when they had Jonathan Wenab and Vince
Young and they had all this collection of
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talent and they just couldn't do anything
right, Like they were constantly floundering,
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and they happened to blow the team
up at the end of the year.
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That's kind of how it feels right
now, where like, you know,
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you're kind of catering to the workers
and that's not always the best thing to
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do in business. Now you're abotually
right, like could this be a work?
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The whole thing be a work and
everything be copasetic on the inside.
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I don't know if everything's peg keen, but they might have figured a way
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to work together and they're just working
the audience, because I mean, this
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is a company that can keep a
secret. When they don't want something to
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get out, it doesn't get out. And that's always boggled me. Boggle
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my mind with all of this,
is that like, there's all these leagues
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and I'm like, wait, we
didn't know about Brody Lee. We didn't
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know about you know, a lot
of stuff that they don't want getting out
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unless it comes unless Tony Kahn puts
it out there. So I'm always kind
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of puzzled that when stuff comes out
from AW is it like legitimate or is
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it a work today that I guess
I don't know if I want to say
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they're better at it than the other
company, but I think it's legitimate.
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Yeah, I do, I think, to me, God, I hate
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saying this because I love watching a
w each and every week, and I'm
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happy with what they've done for the
wrestling world by being a promotion that is
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a legit number two and opening doors
for all different talents to keep the job
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going. And it makes it better
for the for the wrestling world, it
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makes it better for the wrestling fans. But I think this is a reflection
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of a company that has a lot
of people on the roster that lacked maybe
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maturity and professionalism that we see in
a WWE Iron cloud environment. And granted
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there's always stuff that squeaks out of
w E, but maybe the NXC WWPC
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system teaches folks on how to be
professional and how to carry yourself behind the
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scenes and what to do and what
to say when it comes to the dirt
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cheats, because I mean that run
after brawl Out was nuts with the Sammy
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Cavara Entrede stuff, Eddie Kingston,
like NonStop. It was like, is
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am I being worked here? Or
is this company just an environment wise like
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just a complete shit show, because
you know, all encompassing and going full
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circle here. Like you and I
still watch the company. We will will
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tune in each and every week and
be fans of the company. But we
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mentioned the attendance issues and I know
that it gets heat because it's like,
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okay, yeah, they're having troubles
in parts of Canada, but they just
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opened up more tickets and have sold
sixty five thou in Wembley Stadium. But
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I don't know that could be all
just a way to send a message to
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be there first for the first UK
show. Maybe it's secondary market or if
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it's legit, sixty five thousand awesome, but it doesn't make sense for fans
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not to show up for double or
nothing and their debut Canada Swing the Canada
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tour doing a debut tour all through
Canada and to have reportedly sold just seven
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hundred tickets for one of the Dynamites
does not make sense. Maybe this is
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the domino effect of all that bullshit
that happened in the Fall and the Winner
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of last Year and really poor creative
doctor Trey. It's it's a head scratcher,
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no that like when you look at
it, it's it's reality television.
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And you know, look, you
get that reality show that kind of catches
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fire and everybody watches it, and
then after a while you're like, I'm
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just kind of sick of all the
drama and the vs. The people start
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to tune it out because you know, you watch the shows and you're like,
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you know, like you mentioned earlier, like why is Jungle Boy always
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being feat You know, it's like
certain guys they like, why are they
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being pushed? But then other people
aren't being pushed, and you just you
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get frustrated, and you know,
ww's gone through. I mean there's times
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that you and I have watched the
show six, seven, eight years ago
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and we're like, dear God,
this is god awful. So there is
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those elements of frustration and then the
drama and then he was like, look,
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I'll come back to you when you're
crafted together. That's why if you
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have a favorite restaurant and all of
a sudden the service gets terrible, in
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the foods bad, you're just like, Okay, I can't quit you completely,
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but yeah, I'm gonna take a
break into I see some Google reviews
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or some Yelp reviews that you guys
have got your stuff together. So I
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kind of feel like that's where a
lot of the middle ground fans that you
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got your die hards that are going
to tune in h every week. But
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those middle ground fans that don't really
have that overwhelming affection for it are probably
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just kind of like, look,
you guys, figure it out and I'll
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come back. Until then, I'll
just I mean, other wrestling right now
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is so good you don't need an
alternative to appease your appetite. So we're
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both on board with the brand split
ultimately, right, I think for the
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good of the company, you have
to do it. Yeah. I think
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if you just look from the wrestling
perspective, let's try to shelve the drama
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the best we can. I think
to push new stars and get them involved
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is the best thing that could happen
is a brand split for Collision and Dynamite
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because there's guys and girls that I
want to see Wressell more and they're just
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not getting it. And I was
not tuning into Dark and Dark Elevation because
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I felt like it was a waste
of time. And I also feel like
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parts of Rampage are becoming a waste
of time. So if you have two
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solid legit shows and Dynamiting Collision,
hopefully it's the best thing to push newer
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stars or stars that have not been
pushed in some time. For AW.
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So, man, this is a
This is an interesting three months for AW
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Doctor Trey because with the CM punk
stuff, the new show, going into
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all in, going in all out, like this is a potential turning point
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for the company when you really take
step back and look at everything going on.
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Yeah, I don't know if it's
Fork in the Road esque, like
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if this goes sideways, you know, and ratings tank you know? Is
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this is it a turning point towards
pulling the plug? Like I don't know,
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I mean like yeah, I mean
TBS and T and T obviously and
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Warner Brothers in general are very invested
in this product. Succeeding. Otherwise they
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wouldn't give them another two hour time
slot. They wouldn't talk about, you
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know, with the new relaunch of
the HBO Max you know, streaming platform.
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You know, they wouldn't be kind
of investing so much in this brand
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if they weren't themselves invested in success
of it. But at there are times
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that you almost feel like it's too
toxic to touch as well. So it's
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it's it is kind of that turning
point, like, hey, like,
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how does this work, how does
it take off? And can we make
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it succeed on the next level,
because I feel like this company is kind
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of plateau the last year they've they've
kind of hit a ceiling and they haven't
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forgot to push the past that ceiling
yet. So this is an opportunity to
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kind of breakthrough and uh, you
know grab the brass ring. Like just
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to be alluded to by Vince back
in the day switching gears. This past
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Tuesday, two matches were announced for
Forbidden Door two New Japan and All Wrestling
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on I believe it's June the twenty
fifth in Chicago, Illinois, one being
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will Ospray and Kenny Omega and their
third match. There was a match at
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Wrestle Kingdom earlier this year for the
United State Championship from New Japan, and
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I believe there was another one.
I can't remember now. I know this
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is the third one. That's very
terrible of me, but I'm drawing a
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blank on that. Nonetheless, the
second match, this is the one I
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want to talk about, is Brian
Danielson taking on cousin Chica Okada that has
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been announced forbiddenote Door two. Danielson
made the challenge during Dominion for New Japan
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recently, or the Dominion Tour,
and I felt like we talked about this
398
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a year ago, and to me, this is one of those ultimate wrestling
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dream matches, and I feel like
that it may not have been the same
400
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for you, Doctor Trey, But
nonetheless, Danielson Okada has been announced for
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me ultimate wrestling dream match. We
don't get many of them nowadays. Is
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it for you? Heading into Forbidden
Door? Is Danielson versus Occada a dream
403
00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:37.160
match? I mean from a pure
wrestling standpoint, Yeah, Sometimes these the
404
00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:41.200
super indie show approach where it's like, Hey, I wanna take my best
405
00:29:41.240 --> 00:29:44.880
indie guy and your best indie guy, or from the rain together. I
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still like a story now, I
will say I'm more intrigued by it this
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year because we have a heel Brian
Danielson as opposed to maybe in the past
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and we had the baby faced Brian
Danilsons. Because heel Brian Danilson can do
409
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some you know, sneaky stuff during
the match and get the crowd and riled
410
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:03.720
up against them. Was like that. So I'm a little bit more on
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board with it this year. But
yeah, from a pure wrestling standpoint,
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this is for me what Aj and
Seth could have been if, you know,
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given the time, and we didn't
already kind of have a foregone conclusion
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too, who was going over recently
at the pay per view? So for
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me ultimate wrestle in Juray match which
end begs the question which ones remained now
416
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from active stars, I don't want
you to be like, well, no,
417
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I would love to see Steve Auston
versus Rick Flair in his prime,
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Like no, no, we can't
do that. It's it's impossible. But
419
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:36.519
right now, right what are those
dream matches for me? Seth rons Will
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Osprey. They went back and forth
on Twitter over the weekend teasing money in
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the bank, like, that's not
happening. There's no way unless Triple H
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is completely on board with this that
will Osprey is coming to we to wrestle
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the week after Forbidden Door to take
on Kenny and Megan. It's then going
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to take on Seth Rons for the
Role Hiveway Championship. It would be very
425
00:30:55.319 --> 00:30:57.559
cool. They've gone back and forth
on social media for some time. That
426
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would be badass. That is certainly
one that's out there. Kenny Omega,
427
00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:07.839
Seth Rollins, Kenny Omega, Roman
Reigns is out there. You know what
428
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:12.319
other ones remain in your mind right
now? USO's FTR. I think giving
429
00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:18.400
them an actual program, one that
doesn't involve like shaving the other wrestlers back,
430
00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:22.960
would be phenomenal. What are some
of those ultate wrestling dream matches that
431
00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:27.240
remain? Because I felt like Okada
Danielson, I think when you really look
432
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at things, it's like, man, I think this is I think this
433
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is it? Maybe Rollins and Okada
right Like, there's not many left and
434
00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:38.440
it's hard to pick these, but
what are some of your remaining Ultimate Wrestling
435
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:45.720
dream matches? Doctor Trey AJ and
the OC versus the Elite that's up there
436
00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:51.480
for me. Yeah, AJ versus
H. I just had one. Oh.
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00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:55.000
I love see Brian Danielson and seth
Rawlins. At this point they're growd.
438
00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:56.680
I think they've wrestled in the past, but at this point their careers
439
00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:02.240
I think would be outstanding. Um, I'm trying to think of a couple.
440
00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:05.839
I had a couple other ones.
Um, oh, the New Day
441
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and the Elite, like they had
their little exchange a few years ago,
442
00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:15.000
they had their little head to head
gaming thing before aw started. But you
443
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:17.640
know, arguably two of the greatest
tag teams of our generation. You know,
444
00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:23.759
going going at it would be great
as well. Um, I kind
445
00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:28.640
of want to see Wardlow at Roman
as well. Okay, that's an interesting
446
00:32:28.680 --> 00:32:32.640
one. Just like I don't know
if anybody else has the physical attributes that
447
00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:38.960
Roman does as close to what Wardlow
has. UM trying to think of anything
448
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:44.160
else here. Should we throw out
Roman in the Rock? Like, I
449
00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:46.039
mean, it's once again that's one
of those like ones, Like it's kind
450
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:49.839
of what Stone Cold him. Kevin
Owens was like, is it a realistic
451
00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:55.319
match? It's possible, but you
know it's it's just the activeness of the
452
00:32:55.400 --> 00:32:59.880
Rock. Mean, the Rock hasn't
wrestled in what six years, seven years,
453
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:02.759
en plush years, ten years.
Okay, so it's it's a look
454
00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:07.079
as like I'm saying, I want
to see Mickfoley and John Moxley go out.
455
00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:09.799
See this is what I was a
friend. See this is what I
456
00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:13.079
meant. It was like, you
know, Brett Hart versus cum Punk.
457
00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:15.079
It's like, no, that's that's
not happening. But I do think Roman
458
00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:21.880
versus Rock has the potential. Doctor
try no, it's it's I mean,
459
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:24.079
trying to think of some other ones, but yeah, I mean it's it's
460
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:28.559
on the table because Rocks not that
point. Like Rocks maybe the most physically
461
00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:35.319
uh gifted people out of the semi
retired folks. You know what I'm saying,
462
00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:37.200
Like, you know, he can
he still looks the part, he
463
00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:42.400
can still do the job. Um, there's just not a lot of guys
464
00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:45.880
out there that are retired that I
mean. That's like saying, like,
465
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:50.440
oh, Sean Michael, we still
never gotten Shawn Michael's Brian Danielson, Yeah,
466
00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:52.079
you know, yeah, that would
be great. But like you know,
467
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:57.960
in anything with Kenny and aj Or
Seth or Brian Danielson involved, it's
468
00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:00.559
gonna be a Dream Match just because
of how great they are in the ring,
469
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:05.319
uh saying with the USO's FTR,
the Elite New Day, I would
470
00:34:05.319 --> 00:34:08.599
say, Okada Osprey, I'm huge
fans of those guys. Yeah, you
471
00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:13.599
know. Osprey for me is like
when those guys is like when you saw
472
00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:15.039
him go to the next level when
he got bigger, you know, you
473
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:21.079
saw him actually take that step into
like the heavyweight range of professional wrestling.
474
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:24.639
So that's that's great as well.
I mean trying to think if there's anybody
475
00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:31.880
from UH Impact that I want to
see the factor she's really Paul now well,
476
00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:37.639
I mean you know, uh sah. Thanks. Britt Baker, Yeah,
477
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:40.079
that would be cool. And there's
some reports out there today that there
478
00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:46.519
were some serious conversations with Mercedes Money
coming to Forbidden Door prior to her ankle
479
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:51.880
injury suffered new And during the match
with Willow Nightingale to kry the first New
480
00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:54.239
Japan Strong Women's Champion. That would
be cool. I would agree with you
481
00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:59.559
on that one. I think at
Breaker versus any of the top WI stars
482
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:04.440
to me is in there as well, Becky and Seth against Adam Colambritt Baker,
483
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:07.159
that'd be cool that Yeah, we're
all forgeting. We're also forgetting Adam
484
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:10.440
Cole. I'm a big Adam Cole
guy. There's plenty of Adam Cole matches
485
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:14.400
that I think would be badass.
I'm just trying to think, like,
486
00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:20.599
like, who can I put MJF
up against that? Promo wise, like,
487
00:35:20.639 --> 00:35:22.960
I'd love to see m JFF and
the Miss, but then again,
488
00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:27.280
they're both kind of heels, and
Miss isn't as elevated as maybe he should
489
00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:32.320
be. But m JAFF and Rollins
yeah too. I mean m JFF and
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00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:37.199
Cody and www, yeah, m
JFF and Cody might be one because I
491
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:38.760
mean I know he had the one, you know, a small few with
492
00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:46.559
at that point. M JAFF really
wasn't Cody established m JF. MJF now
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00:35:46.599 --> 00:35:52.960
has branched out on his own.
Um, try think like Black Cool Combat
494
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:57.599
Club Bloodline. Wow, well,
I mean there's some stuff going on the
495
00:35:57.599 --> 00:36:00.920
Bloodline right now that we'll get to
your momentarily that may change things. But
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00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:05.920
I think there's plenty of Ultimate Wrestling
Dream matches out there still that remain.
497
00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:08.679
But Okada Danielson for me, was
one of the top ones, and I'm
498
00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:13.480
very excited to see this for Forbidden
Door two in just a couple of weeks,
499
00:36:13.559 --> 00:36:16.679
presented by aw and New Japan Pear
Wrestling Real quick, Hey, real
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00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:21.039
quick. By the way, So
now that's forbidden Door two. Does that
501
00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:25.559
fall in line with rock Sina too? Like, if it's forbidden but you're
502
00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:29.599
doing it again, is it just
become the door? Well they didn't say
503
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:32.119
that this is once in a lifetime. Yeah, but it is. But
504
00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:36.119
the word forbidden means you shouldn't do
it, but now we're doing it again,
505
00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:39.000
So is it like is it like
the lumbada? Like what'd you started
506
00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:42.880
the forbidden dance? But then everybody
did it for a while? Like I
507
00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:45.480
just I guess, I mean,
I just look at it now. Is
508
00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:51.039
when wrestlers come over to other companies
that are not WWA. Yeah, it's
509
00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:53.000
kind of been the phrase for it
now, right, I know they use
510
00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:57.199
it everywhere now. It's like forbidden
door and the word epic. So those
511
00:36:57.199 --> 00:37:00.559
two things are in line together for
me, I guess in awesome always awesome,
512
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:02.639
it's used. Finally. The last
thing I want to talk about here
513
00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:08.079
in regards the bloodline is on Friday
Night's edition of SmackDown, they are teasing
514
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:13.760
that Jay USSO will be making his
decision on what is next for him.
515
00:37:13.800 --> 00:37:16.159
Will he side with Jimmy Usso,
who was formerly kicked out of the Bloodline
516
00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:22.800
this past week's edition of SmackDown,
or will he align himself with Solo,
517
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:27.639
Skoa and Roman Reigns who ultimately turned
their back on Jimmy as well in that
518
00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:30.280
final segment on SmackDown that was executed
very very well and a great segment,
519
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:36.119
very compelling stuff. So the decision
lingers, Doctor Trey. But I ask,
520
00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:38.800
as a wrestling fan, what is
the most compelling move? What is
521
00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:43.519
going to put you closer to the
edge of your seat than you were previously?
522
00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:45.840
I mean, it's gonna be Jay's
signing with his brother for me,
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Like, I just don't see it
upside Like I like Jimmy USO. I
524
00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:55.079
think Jimmy us is a fantastic wrestler. But as you and I discussed last
525
00:37:55.079 --> 00:38:00.519
week and we've discussed as long as
it's been going on, Jay's on a
526
00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:05.280
different level right now than what Jimmy
is. Like his facials, the emotion,
527
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:09.639
the storytelling he's doing without wrestling is
a different level than what Jimmy does.
528
00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:14.800
And I think you know, with
you know, I guess kind of
529
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the decision part two since he just
had a decision a few months back,
530
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:22.360
with Sammy now having a decision with
his brother, is you know, compelling
531
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:27.800
story tide because of how good Jay
USO is, So I think that's the
532
00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:30.480
more compelling story line. And to
see the Usos against Solo in Roman,
533
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:35.159
Yeah, I think that is it
for me as well, because if he
534
00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:37.760
sides, If Jay sides with Solo
in Roman, it's like, Okay,
535
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:43.000
where do things go from here?
Right? Like it just doesn't make any
536
00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:45.559
It doesn't make any sense. I
mean, I guess it could be prolonged
537
00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:50.760
out a little bit more that three
six months down the line we're talking about
538
00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:52.840
Jay eventually turning on the Bloodline.
But I feel like if there's a time
539
00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:57.920
for the decision to be made,
like this is it, And I expect
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00:38:58.280 --> 00:39:00.480
this week's edition to SmackDown and have
some pretty decent viewership because of it.
541
00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:07.119
Doctor Try. Yeah, I mean
it's kind of like the SmackDown after elimination
542
00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:14.960
chamber, like what's gonna be the
fallout umber the one with Sammy and turning
543
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:19.440
on Roman Royal Rumble, And to
me, it's kind of in that Vein
544
00:39:19.480 --> 00:39:21.840
where I mean that rating was pretty
good because you want to see what was
545
00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:25.199
going to happen with Roman and Sammy
and everything else. So, I mean,
546
00:39:25.239 --> 00:39:28.519
the fans are bought in on this. Everybody loves its angle. I
547
00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:30.840
thought that's you know, everything happened
last week on SmackDown. That whole closing
548
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:35.760
segment was fantastic and it kind of
went along what we talked about, like
549
00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:40.000
the fact that like Solo is Jimmy
and Jay's brother, but Roman is kind
550
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:45.039
of the big brother. Like it's
it was really good storytelling, and you
551
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:47.719
know, I think I think the
Paul Hayman segment on Monday Night Raw saying
552
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:51.800
he'll fall in line or else,
I thought was good as well. So
553
00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:54.920
it's just been damn good storytelling from
this aspect, And you know, it's
554
00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:58.480
it's fun to watch a show where
you're like, man, I have to
555
00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:01.840
tune in each every week to see
what the drama going on storyline wise is
556
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:06.800
and not just you know, the
really good wrestling. Now. I know
557
00:40:06.840 --> 00:40:13.320
they parodied Good Fellas right during the
stuff leading into WrestleMania they were doing.
558
00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:17.800
The movie parody was for Good Fellas, Like this bloodline is a Mafioso esque
559
00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:22.880
storyline that's taking place, that we're
seeing the family like people being whacked and
560
00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:27.840
turning, and the leader of the
group like losing his mind a little bit.
561
00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:30.519
It's it's some of the most compelling
and riveting stuff I've seen from W
562
00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:37.079
and very complex, different dimensions,
different twists and turns, and I think
563
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:39.519
we all kind of know what the
end result will be, like Roman will
564
00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:44.840
kind of cave in and cause his
empire to collapse around him, and maybe
565
00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:47.920
that's the way he ushers out of
W is a full timer or this state
566
00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:52.400
of a full timer? But I
mean it's some really great stuff, Doctor
567
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:54.400
Trey, And I'm looking forward to
Friday Night's edition of SmackDown, and I
568
00:40:54.440 --> 00:40:59.239
agree with the most compelling move is
for j two side with Jimmy, because,
569
00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:01.199
like I said before, if he
doesn't, then what what do we
570
00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:05.000
see next? Who could side with
Jimmy. I can't see Kevin and Sammy
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coming over to SmackDown, I guess
no, I mean maybe returning Drew McIntire
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or somebody. I think Drew's he's
on raw, He's he's raw like for
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me. The other question then is
you know, if Jimmy's side or Jay
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side to Jimmy and you go basically
two on two. The heels have to
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get an advantage. And so either
this is the ending of the bloodline and
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Roman ends up alone, or they
have to bring in reinforcements. And if
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that's the case, like it probably
won't be something from the I mean,
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there's Jacob faugh two out there on
the independence, but usually at this point
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they where he got somebody in developmental
in line to do something. They don't
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really have that. So then is
there somebody they bring in, almost as
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you know, a Burke for Higher
type approach, to help Roman hang on
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to his title as long as possible. If they do to go the route
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of splitting the bloodline down the middle, you're gonna hate me for this,
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but you've been brought up about like
bringing somebody in, and you're looking at
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it from the Roman perspective, well
from the USO's perspective. If like this
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becomes a family war between the Annawani
family, what is the likelihood that the
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stuff that we're seeing right now actually
does usher or at least open the door
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for the Rock to return and have
this feud with Roman fighting, having this
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civil war amongst his family. It's
possible. But then once again, if
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the Rock. The way that works
for me is if Jay turns on Jimmy,
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Jay stays with Roman, and then
the Rock comes into basically you know,
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say that in reality, he's the
head of the table and what Romans
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doing the family is destroying the family. Like, I don't see Rock coming
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in to side with Jay and Jimmy
against Roman. It would have to be
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where at the end of the day
they're still outnumbered for it to be a
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baby faced angle that kind of works. I still have this vision that like
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Roman, like Rock's mom is ringside
and Roman like rips are apart, and
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that's what leads into verbally rips or
apart, not physically. Guys will come
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down, and that's what leads to
the Rock from returning to WW Like.
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I just feel like that would be
another compelling layer to It's it's intriguing.
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It's really intriguing stuff. You don't
know where things go. I said it
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before and I'll say it again.
I find Jay was to be the most
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compelling wrestling character in all of the
profession right now, and that's extremely crazy
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because he's just a tag team star
who is slowly but surely starting to break
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out and went from a guy that's
like, man, I can't believe he's
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feuding with Roman, He's in a
w championship match, Like, what is
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this all about too legitimately being someone
I could see as a main eventor going
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forward. So props to everybody involved
with the bloodline because that storyline has been
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awesome and I cannot wait for Friday
SmackDown to check out what is that decision
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this upcoming Friday. With that said, let's get a couple of plugs and
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