CM Punk made his long-awaited return | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #697 – 6/22/23

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It's stupid. Welcome everybody. Welcome
to this week's edition is so Real to

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show episode number six hundred ninety seven
for June one, second, twenty forty

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three. Welcome, So there,
this week's edition of ass Are Team are

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years. I am one after show, I am Jeff joined every single week

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my post one, Doctor Gray Franklin, Doctor Trey. CM punk is back.

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My friend, he is. Um, I didn't hear that with him,

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So nobody's alway, Jef, were
you at men? You're supposed to

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let me know that CM punks making
a return. Yeah, I know it

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came out of nowhere. Um,
I have no idea where he's been the

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last couple of months. It's it's
been a big cloud of mystery. Like

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the last time we saw him,
like he won the AW World Championship then

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I don't know, it just kind
of poof, was gone right afterwards,

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like no no rhyme nor reason why
he would be gone, Doctor Trey.

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So yeah, he just magically appeared. And I think he had a championship

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in a red bag on collision.
I'm not too sure. So the CM

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stands for like Chicago magician m Maybe
now you see me? Now you do

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maybe you just is wrestling in Chicago. Now, there's actually a guy in

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a NWA who's a friend of mine. His name is Magic Jake Doomas.

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So if they go with the cmpunk
of the Magician, right, I think

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Jake might get to have a little
bit of gimmick infringement to go on there.

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But yeah, it's just it's so
weird. This is this is what

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we talked about a few weeks ago
when he was finally announced that he was

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going to be making his return in
Chicago. Is how the crowd is going

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to react, how the roster was
going to react. So you know,

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I'm still gathering my own feedback from
people that were there and stuff. So

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it's pretty interesting to say the least. Yeah, well, we'll talk about

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the return of cmpunk the debut of
Collision here momentarily. But first, just

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a couple of a housecleaning items here. If this sounds like it's slightly outdated,

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it is because Doctor try and I
have recorded these in advance. I'm

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getting married this upcoming Saturday, and
you know, Doctor Trey, it would

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not be a wedding or a big
moment in somebody's life if there wasn't some

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sort of like weird, unnecessary stress. So I don't know what it's been

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like for you when you're heading into
your weddings, and it's not like stress

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between myself and my future wife.
It's more of like things that are outside

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of our control, or I guess
we could have controlled. It is kind

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of unraveled a little bit, and
throw in a little twist and turn going

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into the wedding itself. Have you
ever experienced that or was everything smooth sailing

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for you? Before I tell my
side of the story here. My first

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wedding, I had nothing to do
with it. I was just basically just

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tell me when, tell me where
I'll show up. So like with that

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one, it was like the red
contracted my father in law to kind of

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handle the videography stuff, and then
I didn't check out the venue and we

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actually the building that we did it
in they actually had like giant church pews

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that so instead of walking down the
middle, you had to walk around the

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side to come back up to the
stage, so that was awkward. Flowers

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didn't show up on time, so
there's a few hiccups. The first one,

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second one, I took over and
just basically kind of set everything up

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like I'm the one that found the
venue. I'm the one that found uh

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you know, the minister, I'm
the one that booked the reception area kind

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of coordinate. So I just kind
of took over because I just get tired

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of indecisiveness. Just pick something and
run with it. Yeah, yeah,

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I guess for me, my story
would be similar to that of Flowers not

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arriving, but a bigger deal.
So this past weekend, we're going through

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like where we had a bunch of
this stuff that we have for our wedding

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piled into this little like container that
we have, and I take out my

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wedding band. So the wedding band
that we purchased, we purchased them back

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in January, so like five months, six months before the actual wedding,

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just to kind of get it over
with and just you know, one least

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thing to check off. And we're
not having a huge wedding, very very

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small, intimate wedding, just with
our immediate families. And I go to

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put it on and it doesn't fit
all of a sudden. So I have

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lost about twenty pounds since the wedding
planning began, got down to a very

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healthy normal weight happy with all that, feel much better healthwise, and I

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guess I was carrying weight my fingers, Doctor Trey because the wedding band I

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put on no longer fits. And
it's like, I mean, if I

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put my hand down in the ground
right right, like pointing my fingers towards

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to the ground, would it fall
off. No, but it's it's not

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the right fits. So decide that
day that we're going to run over to

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where we purchased our rings, and
we called an advance, said what was

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going on. They said, we
typically don't do this, but being that

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you guys haven't gotten married yet,
it's totally fine. Come on down.

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Will hold a half size and a
full size for you. So go there.

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I show them the wedding band that
I have had at the time,

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and they were like, oh,
yeah, no, that that doesn't fit.

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I try on the next half size. There's no quarter sizes, and

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that one comes off a little bit
easy as well, so they're like,

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wow, you got to go full
size. So I put the full size

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on and I didn't know this as
a married man, maybe I guess you

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can support this. But as I'm
taking the ring off, like I'm wiggling

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it off my finger so I can
can take it off, and they're like,

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that's how it's supposed to be.
And I'm thinking myself, like,

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well, when I did this back
in January, I don't remember it,

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like wiggling off my finger like this, So I think the entire time I

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had the wrong size. And this
was with a jeweler who was like helping

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us out. So I'm like,
yeah, okay, so full size this

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is it. And they proceed to
tell us, well, we don't have

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your ring in stock, so it's
like, oh crap. So then we

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had to order the next ring up
and we're putting a bar in it.

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I learned a lot about jewelry all
of a sudden, a bar in it

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so that it fits my finger and
the bars in there in the event that,

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you know, the older I get, the more weight eye gain again,

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I guess. And if I have
to take the bar out at any

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moment getting married on this upcoming Saturday, when will the wedding band be available

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Friday? So it's like you have
got to be shitting me, so kind

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of important. There is a backup
plan if God forbid it's not ready,

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can just go with one of those
you know, silicone rings, and it

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will make a good story. But
it was again very small wedding that we're

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having. Took a lot care of
a lot of things in the beginning.

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Don't want a lot of boogie things
in general. And here we are in

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that final week and uh yeah,
presently as we record the show, I

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do not have a wedding band ready
to go for my wedding on Saturday.

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It's it's really you mentioned that because
I just had that talk with my wife

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because I had ordered I have my
original wedding ring, but I ordered a

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backup one just to where to work
and things like that, a little small,

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you know, cheaper band, but
just that way that you know if

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I lose it. It's not a
huge law, but just something. And

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I think you and I met for
the first time face to face like two

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thousand and ten, I think it
was I think it was nine. I

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was rough. I was a pretty
big guy back then. I was probably

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about around like two sixty five to
seventy. I just waited in today at

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one eighty five. The lightest,
the lightest I have ever been like since

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probably like sixth grade. So I
have always had the same ring size.

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I've always been at ten. Uh. So I ordered the ring. It

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comes in, I'm looking at it's
the same size as my other ring.

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I'm like, all right, this
looks this looks okay. And so like

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last night Father's Day, I threw
it on just to kind of see how

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it fit and everything else like that. I'm like, this thing's pretty loose.

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And I started like snapping my hand
back and forth and like like you're

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drying you like you're air drying your
hands after your wed, you know,

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and it's shifting and I'm like,
I did not know that your hands could

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really lose weight. So I was
so when you're telling me the story,

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I'm like, I know exactly what
you're talking about. Luckily for me,

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I got him. I could think
I have these rings off like some wish

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dot com type site. So there's
only five bucks out the window. But

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I'm like, crap, if I
lose anymore white, I'm have to go

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back in and resize the actual wedding
ring. And I really don't want to

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deal with it because I'm I'm at
the point now like I don't like going

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places if I can't just order it
and tell somebody what I need done.

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I really don't want to deal with
it. Like the only place I like

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going a person is to my watch
guy. So if I need to like

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take a link out or you know, get a bat or something like that,

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Like my watch guys pretty good.
But jewelers and everything's like that.

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Like I just I really hate going
in there, so I try to avoid

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it at all cause but in your
situation, you really don't have an option.

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Let's you just do a bread tie
around your finger, you know,

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or something like that for the wedding. True true. And the thing is,

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it was like late on Saturday on
the weekend and I was like,

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man, last thing I really want
to do, because it's like maybe forty

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fifty minute drive for us to go
to where we bought our rings. I

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was like, oh my god.
This is like, first off, it's

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it's not planned. I'm highly frustrated
this has happened. And you know,

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like the thought was, well,
I'll just go there and pick up the

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half size. I'm sure that'll fit. And it's like, thank god I

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went because it didn't. And if
we did that then we would be back

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at square one and have to go
make another trip. So less than twenty

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four hours away from being married this
upcoming weekend, I will have to pick

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up my ring. If there is
a god's chance at all that it's done

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earlier, that would be great.
But here we are very very small wedding

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yet final week. Obviously everything is
not perfect, so it is what it

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is. If anybody has similar stories
like that with their weddings, feel free

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to chime in at SRTU podcast on
Twitter or even Facebook dot com slash So

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Real to Us show. I figured
I would start with that this week,

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a little bit of relatable stuff for
those they listen to the pod that are

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married, have gone through the wedding
process, and as doctor Trey said,

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with his first wedding, most guys
it's like I don't care, Like,

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let's just you know, wherever you
want to do it. That's kind of

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been mymo and I wanted to get
a lot of things done early. And

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I guess that kind of bit me
in the ass because by dropping like fifteen

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to twenty pounds, now I have
to get a whole full size different ring.

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So guys learn from both Doctor tryan
I hear similar stories. You lose

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weight, that's great your health here. However, things that typically would fit

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and I'm not talking about like pants, but like wedding bands may not fit

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again. So if you don't want
to lose the weight, tell your significant

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other like, wow, you know, you know this ring won't fit and

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you have to buy me another one
if you're pushing me to lose some weight.

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But there you go, wedding talk
here on this week's edition of SRTU.

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If that didn't think, I would
leave with that, but I figured,

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oh, okay, it's a nice
story, or not a nice story,

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but relatable, you know, crazy
story heading into you know, one

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of the biggest days of our lives. So that's where we are, folks.

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Things that have gone on for a
long time. Not talking about my

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wedding planning, but was one cmpunk. As we mentioned the start of the

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show, he's been away for nine
to ten months. We have not seen

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him since the all out press conference
which then led into brawl out. He

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has disappeared off AW television, was
not mentioned on AW television up until maybe

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three weeks ago. Four weeks ago. There's been a cloud of secrecy in

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regards to his status. There's been
reports that there's been no movement, There's

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been talks, reports of potential buyouts, talks of meetings with Chris Jericho,

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talks of lawyers saying they can't talk
to one another, and that all came

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to a head and ended once cult
of personality came across the speakers of the

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United Center for the debut edition of
AW Collision, which we'll get to here

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momentarily as well. But prior to
all that, doctor Trey Cmpunk tells teld

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his side of the story somewhat to
ESPN having to sit down every when I

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say that, somewhat because I guess
legally he cannot mention the elite Kenny Omegan

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the Young Bucks by name. However, he did talk about Hangman Adam Page,

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spoke about their issues what took place, mentioned that he was very pissed

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off heading into that press conference,
which was shocking here because of one his

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injury and two nothing had been done
between he and the elite after times where

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he had said he made attempts for
it to be resolved. That to me

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was like obviously a shot at at
Tony Kahn and the leadership of AW.

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Then he gets in the ring,
cuts his promo, I would say,

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alludes to the Young Bucks because he
called them counterfeit Bucks during his promo said

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that our favorite wrestlers are soft.
It was a tweener heelish promo. Despite

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being cheered in Chicago, there were
some booze for seampunk in Chicago. I

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would say it was probably ninety ten
maybe eighty twenty at best eighty and ninety

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percent for cheers, ten to twenty
percent for booze. But the long awaited

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return for CM punkin if he would
return to AW took place this past Saturday

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night. He entered the ring,
he had his first match Doctor Trey.

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Your thoughts and everything that led up
to this, the ESPN story and then

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the debut the next night during the
redbut the next night at AW Collision see

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and this is where we kind of, you know, try to figure out

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what's going on the inner workings of
AW, because in my head, you

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would have a PR person, a
public relationship person who would kind of go,

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hey, uh, was it what
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Phil or whether whether one he said
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Like, Hey, maybe going out
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kind of yeah, let's let's talk
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everything, like you know, keep
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not what happened that where a good
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then knowing that was that really just
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maybe they really have made up and
it's it's this is all just us them

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working us or something. So it
was definitely here's start of reading those comments

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heading into collision. Um, music
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you said, there was a there's
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are unhappy with them, and we
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elite die hard that you know just
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it's just good to have him back. And then it was kind of

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a tweener ish promo, maybe a
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it's just weird, just like I
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in wrestling, the brawl out stuff. But you know, it's kind of

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like, all right, we don't
need to keep airing air in the laundry

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on TV for everybody, Like let's
leave it backstage and hey, if you

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guys got to come to blows again, you come to blows again. I

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just I'm almost talked out of this
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against the you know, against the
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it right now. Yeah. I
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preface this by saying, I'm I'm
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he's back in AW as well.
I think the part where we obviously agree

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on this is I'm I'm done talking
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interview from ESPN, and on Thursday
that reports out there from Fight Full PW

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Inside or what have you had reports
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AW Dynamite this past Wednesday. The
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comments that were made about potential quotes
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and people were like rolling their eyes
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Story drops and it's just like clarity
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The part where it was like,
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this road is where he starts taking
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mean, if it doesn't unless this
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in the ring, it like,
this is just so damning. If we

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go two years from now and these
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out how to make this work to
make some money, then this is just

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a total black eye and a missopportunity
for all Elite wrestling. And then from

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a leadership perspective, looks really really
bad to me where they legitimately cannot have

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seam Punk's camp and the Elites camp
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out there as we record this,
it's it's before this week's edition of aw

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Dynamite that there's reports out there that
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while the Elite will not be,
and the Elite have already filmed their stuff

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for this week's edition the show.
So it's like, Okay, this is

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strange. I just thought that was
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the hangman out of Page seeing Punk
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press conference, and we heard it
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there were no issues about it.
He seems to think that they were the

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ones that were leaking information to the
dirt sheets. They deny that it's the

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same song and dance we talked about
nine to ten months ago. I get

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that there's legal reasons involved, and
I don't know where the legal reasons stem

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from. I don't know if this
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know if it's is the elite putting
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from me. I don't know if
it's punks people, though if you were

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the interview, it would seemed that
it's not punks people that are legally saying

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dun't go and talk to them.
But the best course of action in here

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would be to get all these parties
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once and for all, because from
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ridiculously stupid. From a product content
perspective, is this leads to no feuds

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ever in the history of aw between
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these multiple people, then it really
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of me still thinks that this is
an angle and we're keeping being kept left

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in the dark a little bit about
obviously that they did resolve issues. I

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don't think he gets away with that
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If this wasn't potentially going to be
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the best enstance of all Elite Wrestling. If it wasn't angle soon, and

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they kind of it could be one
of their best story lines ever if it

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does lead to a feud between c
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that said, the promo was very
heelish. I'm under the belief Doctor Trey

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that CM Punk is coming back as
a tweener and we don't know if he

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will be a baby face or if
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he's not going to be taking any
more lies, He's not gonna be telling

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anymore. He's gonna he tells no
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no more nice guy Phil Brooks.
So um, I dig it. When

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Punk is pissed off, when he
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he's got an attitude, I think
he's at his best. He looked decent

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in the ring on Saturday night for
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ten months. In an actual televised
match. So I just hope this all

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works up for all EAT Wrestling in
the end, because if it doesn't,

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and if this trend continues for the
next three to six months, it's just

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gonna look so silly for me from
a fan to a leadership perspective and now

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wrestling, Yeah, I mean,
there have been many times the history of

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wrestling where two people or group of
people just absolutely despised each other and then

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came together for the good of the
show or the good of the brand,

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or oh bottom line, the good
of their wallet, you know, the

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good of their paychecks. And this
is one of those situations, like this

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is the most captivating thing aw's had
that they can kind of feed off of

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in quite some time, if ever, And you're right, if six months

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from now, we're still not there, And this is with Punk working on

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Dynamite, and that just means that
the elite will probably end up working over

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you know, on collision. To
not have these people path or cross these

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paths crossed, it is just ludicrous. So I'm kind of under the feeling

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just like you said that, like
you know, they've kind of hashed some

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stuff out because you don't get away
with that line. And then the retort

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was, yeah, this was like
twenty nineteen, we'd have a shirt up

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on BWT right away with counterfeit bucks. You know, you don't get away

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with that, you don't poke the
bear and not cause issues. But you

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know, if this is, if
the reality is it's all a work,

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I mean, it's all a shoots
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It kind of feels like Tony Kahn's
like the step mom in between a husband

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and wife who broke up and the
stepmom's got to help, you know,

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figure out how to get the kids
around and stuff like that. Like he's

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kind of playing both sides of a
little bit. So it's just interesting the

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dynamic of how all of this is
playing out right now. Yeah, again,

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like if this from a storyline standpoint, if this leads to a storyline,

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it makes ton of sense. If
if it does not lead to a

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storyline, then again you come into
question Tony Khn's leadership as the head of

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a w event. It's like,
this was just really bizarre. So we

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hope the biggest benefit is the fan
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him punk back in the fold at
aw That is obviously one big benefit.

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The second benefit would be, let's
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Let's have some really intense promos,
Let's have some great matches, Let's have

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a great feud, and let's help
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because this could really do it.
Let's, you know, tell me

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that you worked us. You worked
us for the last couple of months.

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The brawl out was weird, was
real, but you know, you worked

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us the last couple of months.
They resolved issues, the brand splits and

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you know, two different groups,
and then Punk needs to be here while

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the elite's over there. And then
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Punk needs to be on Dynamite.
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Was all just for not and just
for show and tell and to make

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us believe into this feud a little
bit more. So. That's the hope

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that for me as a wrestling fan, this is why Sean and Brett was

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so good at ninety seven. We
want to see this play out on our

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television screens for the benefit of the
wrestling fan base, rather than it just

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being this weird, awkward drama that
just takes place behind the scenes from time

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to time. So see him.
Punk is back. He redbuted re returned

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during AW Collision, which made its
debut episode this past Saturday night, Doctor

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Trey. We have a new announced
team for All Elite Wrestling, with Kevin

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Kelly and Nigel McGuinness leading the charge. A very surprising to see Kevin Kelly

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working for All Elite Wrestling after being
with New Japan's English commentary team for so

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long. Nigel's been under contract with
AW now for some time working on the

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ROH brand. I've been a big
fan of Nigel for some time. I

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thought W has misused him the last
like two three years he was under contract

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with that company. Happy to see
him back out there. Obviously. Loved

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the throwback logo to Monday Nitro.
The set was very, very visually cool.

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I mean, the best set that
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I felt like was a Collision set. Loved the theme song with Saturday

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Nights meant for fighting with Elton John
That was really cool. Other than that,

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it felt like a normal AW show. Happy to see Merrow back.

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Happened to see Andrew al eat a
low back excited to see some wrestlers get

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an opportunity to really showcase their skills
because they don't get the time on Dynamite

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each week. So excited for all
that. As I've said before, it's

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like another wrestling show, but when
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it's like, Okay, this could
be really cool for the company. Hopefully

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it doesn't feel like just a Dynamite
show moving forward. It has its own

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different look and feel, which it
does presently. I thought for episode number

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one there were some hiccups, Kevin
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them, especially Kevin Kelly working with
a new promotion that he has not worked

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with before. So overall, I
thought it was a great up debut episode

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for All Wrestling. Collision Doctor try
Yeah, you know, I can't.

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I can't dispute that at all.
Like to me, it's kind of you

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know, it was. It was
solid. You know, it has its

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moments where I was like, oh, that's really good, and had their

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moments from like and and not so
much. But you know, once again,

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this is still you know, a
three almost four year old company that

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still has hiccups on their main show. And now you're kind of maybe splitting

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the production staff and you're doubling up
on either on either on the production STAPs,

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either getting doubled up on the workload
or they hired a brand new staff

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to come in and kind of help
run the other show. So with those

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things being said, you know,
you're gonna have hiccups, You're gonna have

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missteps, things like that, but
overall, very very quality show, and

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it takes a while. Like even
it with SmackDown debut, it felt like

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a blue Monday Night Raw. It
took a little while for that show to

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finance voice, and I expect Collision
to kind of go down the same road.

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There's still some reports reports out that
are right now that there's going to

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be like some sort of roster split. I don't know if it's going to

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be an actual, like draft roster
split. There's you know, but probably

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as I'm saying this, they've already
announced it for Dynamite because we're recording before

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Dynamite. I know they have copyrighted
the phrase transferportal, So something is probably

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up here. We just don't necessarily
know what. But if it gives wrestlers

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who weren't being showcased on Dynamite and
Opportunity those that we want to see more

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of Ricky Stark's Amro Andrade, Alidlo, Powerhouse, Hobbs, Wardlow, Lucasaurus,

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whoever. I'm here for it because
there are times and I enjoy Dynamite,

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Don't get me wrong, but there
are times that we see the same

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wrestlers each and every week performing on
Dynamite. I love Orange Cassidy, He's

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like the opening match nearly every week. I love Swort Strickland, He's on

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that show a lot, Jungle Boys
on there, a lot, Hooks on

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there, a lot. I mean, I just would love an opportunity to

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see more folks get an opportunity to
perform. And I think this is exciting

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for all elite wrestling. And we'll
see where Collision goes as we move forward.

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Switching over to World Wrestling Entertainment,
Doctor Trade. This past Friday on

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SmackDown, Jay Usso has officially turned
his back on the Bloodline. He has

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sided with his brother Jimmy Uso and
that has ignited a bloodline civil war that

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will pursueably main event Money the Bank
in a couple of weeks. A tag

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team match solo in Roman taken on
the USO's You know, I've really enjoyed

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this storyline, but I just felt
like, of all the things that we've

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ever seen in this storyline, from
Sammy turning his back on the Bloodline at

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the Royal Rumble, from Jimmy Usso
turning his back on the Bloodline at Night

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of Champions, to Jay Usso turning
his back at SmackDown, I've said the

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last couple of weeks that I think
Jay Uso is the most compelling and relatable

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wrestling character in all of professional wrestling
right now. I think the fans have

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this really cool, emotional, deep
tie to him right now based on the

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way that he's been built up the
last three years. And I felt like

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that his execution of turning his back
on the Bloodline was the least surprising and

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the least impactful. Shockingly enough,
I thought it was a good build up

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towards it and a nice swerve,
but I felt like Sammy, Zane and

405
00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:04.480
jim usus was bigger and better than
Jay's the guy that I really enjoy watching

406
00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:12.039
just as much. Yeah, and
my only issue if it is I don't

407
00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:17.640
want to say they kind of I
mean, you just had Sammy turn six

408
00:29:17.720 --> 00:29:21.440
months ago, then Jimmy just turned
a couple of weeks ago, you know,

409
00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:22.359
and then this one, like I
felt like, I don't want to

410
00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:26.599
say they did it too quickly.
I would have liked to see that Jay's

411
00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:32.119
turn be a little bit bigger and
a little bit more drawn out. But

412
00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:36.039
you know, especially when he's backstage
telling you, O, hey, once

413
00:29:36.039 --> 00:29:37.160
I'm in, you know, once
I'm in charge, haim in your out,

414
00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:41.319
that kind of gave away the ending
and it would you know, I

415
00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:42.880
was like, oh, well,
Jimmy didn't think you're the right leader.

416
00:29:44.519 --> 00:29:48.200
Oh well, you know, God
forbid your brother have a differentiating opinion at

417
00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:53.640
the time. So it was so
good and and I to me, supertickting

418
00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:57.720
your own little brothers even a bigger
thing than superticking to your cousin. But

419
00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:02.759
you I just kind of wish did
Jimmy turny had played out, because in

420
00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:07.519
a way, it took Jimmy being
the first guy to state up to Roman

421
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:10.599
to being the last guy to realize
what a jerky was. It just it

422
00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:12.519
seemed a little bit like it could
have been drawn out just a little bit

423
00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:15.599
more. I guess see, that's
a great point that you made there where

424
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:19.839
it was like Jay was the last
one to realize it and he was like

425
00:30:19.960 --> 00:30:22.640
the first one that fought it,
which maybe it that's the point of the

426
00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:29.160
storyline. I think the direction I
would have liked to see is play this

427
00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:33.079
out a little bit more. I
know, wrestling wrestling promotions, hay when

428
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:34.519
fans do this, but I'm going
to do it anyway. Fantasy booking,

429
00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:41.079
I would have done Roman versus Jimmy
us for Money the Bank and have like,

430
00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:45.440
maybe Jay work as a special guest
referee, or he is the undecided

431
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:52.119
party sitting in ringside and he makes
still you know, Roman still wins.

432
00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:56.359
Roman does it by doing the guillotine
choke that we haven't seen him do in

433
00:30:56.400 --> 00:31:00.839
a while, chokes out Jimmy and
and Jay is still very torn. And

434
00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:04.920
it goes on way past the bell
and Jay treys to break it up a

435
00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:07.599
little bit and you can see that
he's torn. It's his brother, it's

436
00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:11.480
his cousin, it's the bloodline.
Play it out a little bit, and

437
00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:15.880
then dragged the tag team match itself
heading into SummerSlam. I think that the

438
00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:19.559
match for Money the Bank I felt
like would have been better for maybe SummerSlam

439
00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:26.799
and you have a little bit more
of a longer build towards this. You

440
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:29.519
know, jbing torn which way does
he go? Which way does he go?

441
00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:33.400
Because it did feel very fast.
I mean Night of Champions happened what

442
00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:37.359
three to four weeks ago, and
here we are three four weeks later and

443
00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:41.279
they've you know, both turned their
backs now on the Bloodline. And it

444
00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:45.319
took Sammy to turn his back,
it took Jimmy to turn his back for

445
00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:48.279
Jay to finally wake up. As
you perfectly put into place, I think

446
00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:51.480
I think I would have let this
play out a little bit more, Doctor

447
00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:55.720
Trey. Yeah, I mean that
was my thought process as well. And

448
00:31:56.359 --> 00:32:01.559
you know it's almost like if I
get them doing the tag match right now,

449
00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:07.000
fairly Sammy's still upset about the Bloodline
breaking up, but yeah, to

450
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:10.839
me, like, if you you
have to get like the way they played

451
00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:16.440
out either makes Jay look dumb or
it makes Jimmy's turn look not as good

452
00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:21.599
because you want of those faces.
I mean, if they came back intod

453
00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:24.799
Jay Roman and Solo against Jimmy,
Kevin and Sammy, I think the fans

454
00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:30.240
were then on board of that.
And then once again then you got Jimmy

455
00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:34.960
and Sammy pleading with Jay to see
the lights and maybe that would works as

456
00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:38.759
well. My question then becomes,
if you do the tag match? Now,

457
00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:42.680
do you do Jay and Roman at
Summer Slam? And is that really

458
00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:46.200
a Summer Slam main event? Despite
the great build of the single on how

459
00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:52.319
much we appreciate what Jay USO's doing. Does you know if you were buying

460
00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:53.839
the pay per view and that was
your main event? Was somebody buy that

461
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:59.519
pay per view that doesn't hasn't maybe
watched the entire storyline. That's true,

462
00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:01.000
You're gonna hit we for do this, and we may have to add it

463
00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:06.640
towards a list of things that may
be banned here. But I'm wondering if

464
00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:10.400
things were rushed a little bit because
they have a bigger name set to take

465
00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:15.400
on Roman Reigns for Summer Slam.
It's possible. Do you know what name

466
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:20.240
I'm going to allude to? Does
he does he use a lot of initials?

467
00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:24.880
Does he use a lot of initials? Move? No? Maybe not?

468
00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:29.440
Okay, I was going with Randy, with Randy order no, no,

469
00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:31.759
no, I'm thinking in the family, keeping in the family, that

470
00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:36.480
the Rock hasn't come in and settled
the feud yes, I have been obviously

471
00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:40.079
at nausea and pushing this for I
don't know, two years now, because

472
00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:45.319
you know, when you think about
it, like SummerSlam twenty twenty two to

473
00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:52.759
Royal Rumble, you could see the
slow build of Sammy starting to turn away

474
00:33:52.880 --> 00:34:00.000
from the bloodline. That was about
eight weeks from WrestleMania thirty nine to Night

475
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:05.319
of Champions was another like six to
eight weeks where Jimmy and Jay were really

476
00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:07.159
pushed. You know, they were
not having the tag team title match,

477
00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:14.840
they were getting you know, yelled
at by Roman and all this stuff heading

478
00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:19.360
into that turn this turn again,
and I think you said it perfectly.

479
00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:22.880
It was like a three week turnaround
for Jay and I'm like, man,

480
00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:25.199
this is not something they've been doing
this for storyline. Everything's been a slow

481
00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:29.440
burn and it just makes you wonder
and I'm going to say the Rock,

482
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:32.400
but you know, doctor Trey said, maybe Randy Oran, But I mean

483
00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:37.559
maybe they have just a bigger name
set for Roman reigns. And they're kind

484
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:42.719
of shotgun in this a little bit
because this storyline has been so perfect and

485
00:34:42.760 --> 00:34:47.039
it's been nothing but slow burns that
this just and maybe w crative would make

486
00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:50.840
the case, like, well,
the slowburn has been for three years with

487
00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:53.360
ju so since this started. But
nonetheless I just felt like, I don't

488
00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:59.360
know, just feels like it feels
like something's missing, Like I don't know,

489
00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:02.639
I just feel like it's it's really
quick. Yeah, I agree,

490
00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:07.800
So, I don't know. Maybe
the USO's turned towards their most electrifying cousin

491
00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:13.679
and we get Roman and Rock.
It's it's interesting. It's interesting. I

492
00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:16.960
think I would have done Jimmy versus
Roman for for Money in the Bank with

493
00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:21.280
the title online and continue to play
this a little bit more with Jay Uso,

494
00:35:21.559 --> 00:35:24.280
so we'll see. It was still
great pop cool moment. I love

495
00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:29.719
the usos, love the bloodline,
love the bloodline storyline. Um, it's

496
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:31.280
been great. Is there any part
of you, doctor Trede, that's like

497
00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:35.519
kind of upset that we're seeing this
stable fall apart. I mean, this

498
00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:40.199
was your altogether your SRT Wrestler of
the Year for for twenty twenty two.

499
00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:45.119
Yeah, it's it's weird in the
sense of seeing it Corona, but what

500
00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:49.440
we've seen it with other some of
the other great Stables degeneration acts, you

501
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:52.440
know, the Ministry, your Ministry, corporate ministry things like that, we've

502
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:57.760
seen him. You know, they
rise and they fall. Um. But

503
00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:00.760
it's it's just I suppose you were
like, I hope you have something on

504
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:02.800
the back end of this, you
know, kind of in place, like,

505
00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:07.119
hey, we're gonna run this storyline
coming out of Summer's Lam with you

506
00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:09.159
know, something like this would be
to keep it compelling, because it's been

507
00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:13.440
musty TV for the better part of
you know, a little over a year

508
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:17.800
now with the Bloodline and the inner
workings and everything else. It was funny

509
00:36:17.800 --> 00:36:22.320
because I like, we go back
to shoot seven years ago when the when

510
00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:27.719
the first in the Bloodline name was
first mentioned on TV, and I remember

511
00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:31.440
sitting here watching you we actually had
a group of Athens Pro Wrestling called the

512
00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:36.639
Bloodline and similar family tree to look
to it everything else, I'm like,

513
00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:40.280
yeah, but just to kind of
see this whole thing play out has been

514
00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:43.760
great television. I just hope you
have something on the back end kind of

515
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:46.360
already in place where hey, when
this kind of rolls the way and shuts

516
00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:50.920
down, we're kicking this storyline and
it should be compelling TV as well.

517
00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:53.920
So keep me keeping an eye on
this storyline heading into money in the Bank

518
00:36:54.039 --> 00:36:57.440
just a couple of weeks away.
We'll preven predict money in the Bank on

519
00:36:57.559 --> 00:37:01.559
next week's edition of SRT. You. Speaking of previewing predictions, we will

520
00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:07.920
preview predict all Elite Wrestling and New
Japan Pro Wrestling presents fourbidd Indoor two this

521
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:13.719
Sunday from the Scotia Bank Arena in
Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Full disclosure

522
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:15.960
again, there are four matches that
have been announced by the time we're recording

523
00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:20.440
this podcast. I'm sure more match
has been announced on aw Dynamite. Possibly

524
00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:22.960
they've been announced on social media by
the time that you're listening to this podcast.

525
00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:27.440
Obviously, in a couple of weeks, when we recap and review this

526
00:37:27.559 --> 00:37:30.840
show, we will go through everything
here. But we only have four matches

527
00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:35.400
that we can actually predict heading into
Four Bidden Door right now, Ray,

528
00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:37.880
So let's get to the first one. Kenny Omega defends the IWGP United States

529
00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:43.920
Championship against Will Osprey. I'll start
here. I think this is Will Osprey's

530
00:37:43.960 --> 00:37:49.119
opportunity to win the championship and get
the victory over Kenny Omega. On I

531
00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:52.840
believe last week's show, I thought
that they were they already done a trio

532
00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:57.639
of matches. This would be match
number two coming off of Wrestling Kingdom and

533
00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:01.679
the rumors that they'll have their third
match at all In in Wembley Stadium in

534
00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:05.760
the UK. So for this one, I think Will Osprey wins. It's

535
00:38:05.800 --> 00:38:08.880
tied one one and you have that
third match at all In in Wembley Stadium,

536
00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:13.960
So I think Will Osprey leaves with
the IWGP United States Championship. No,

537
00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:16.599
and I'm with you. I think
this is Osprey's Shay has to really

538
00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:22.960
shine on American TV. We've seen
glimpses of it, but big stage.

539
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:28.039
Plus you know we saw Forbidden mcdoor
one. It can be at all aw

540
00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:30.360
sweep, it can't be a New
Japan Sweeps. So we gotta go a

541
00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:32.440
little bit back and forth here,
So I'll take Osprey getting the win as

542
00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:37.920
well. Next match here is one
of the dream matches that I've been looking

543
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:42.599
forward to for some time. It's
Bryan Danielson taking on Kaza Chica Okada Doctor

544
00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:45.880
Trey. Who do you like in
this one? This one a little trickier

545
00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:52.760
for me, so I'm leaning Brian
Danielson just because once again is a even

546
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:55.760
though it's co promoted, it's still
basically an aw event, So I will

547
00:38:55.800 --> 00:39:02.320
take Danielson getting the win over Okada. I'm gonna take Okada getting the victory

548
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:07.880
over Danielson, and it's because Okada, I don't he hasn't been book great.

549
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:10.559
When he's on an all elite wrestling
programming, he typically takes the l

550
00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:15.599
which is surprising. He tries to
go for the Rainmaker about thirteen hundred times

551
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:20.199
and they reverse it every single time. So I'm gonna go with Okada getting

552
00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:25.360
the victory over Danielson and really really
really looking forward to this one on Sunday

553
00:39:25.480 --> 00:39:31.039
evenings as these two go at it. Next match here is Sonata to defending

554
00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:37.559
the IWGP World Heavyweight Championship against Jungle
Boy Jack Perry. I have been very

555
00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:42.000
critical of Jungle Boy Jack Perry for
some time. This is not the man

556
00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:45.760
that I thought should get this IWGP
World Heavyweight Championship match. I have been

557
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:49.880
a big fan of Sonata for a
long time. I'm happy that he's gotten

558
00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:52.320
an opportunity to become the world champion
over New Japan. Right now, with

559
00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:55.239
that said, I think Sonata gets
the victory. You have hook in the

560
00:39:55.280 --> 00:40:00.159
corner of Jungle Boy. I think
a Jungle Boy and Hook feud. We'll

561
00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:04.079
be taking us into the summer.
I just think a heel turn is coming

562
00:40:04.119 --> 00:40:07.159
for Jack Perry, so I'm going
to take Snata to retain if Jungle Boy.

563
00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:10.360
I thought about this watching Collision.
If Jungle Boy turns heels, is

564
00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:14.559
he in a back with pushing page
and Lucha stores. That would be weird,

565
00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:17.239
right, But I guess it's possible. I mean, he was wearing

566
00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:20.800
the black leather jacket, and I'm
like, well, I mean, Lucha's

567
00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:22.840
wearing all black and Cage wears all
black. Maybe it makes sense. But

568
00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:27.920
you know, with this match,
I really like Sonata. I've been hard

569
00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:30.880
on Jungle Boy for a while as
well. I'm gonna take Sanata getting to

570
00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:34.800
win just because it feels i mean, on paper, you're looking all these

571
00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:37.880
other great matches and these rumored matches
and everything else, and I'm like,

572
00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:40.679
this one just kind of seems out
of place, Like it's not really like

573
00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:45.519
I wouldn't put Jungle Boy on my
top eight challengers in the world, so

574
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:47.639
I don't, even though he just
had telling me had a match for its

575
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:52.280
and it just feels like, well, the crowd is really no Sanada,

576
00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:54.000
but they know Jungle Boys. Let's
put them in there together. Yeah.

577
00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:58.880
I think this is one of those
cases where Tony Khan and AW Creative love

578
00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:01.159
Jungle Boy. I mean they may
not actually be listening to the fans right

579
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:06.039
now by pushing him in this match, or it's they are listening to the

580
00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:07.880
fans and they're ready to turn him
hell coming out of this one. I

581
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:10.599
agree with you. I just I
didn't think he should be the challenger for

582
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:14.960
the IWGP worldI Wing Championship. But
we're here, we are here, we

583
00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:17.880
are folks. And then finally,
the only other match now it is MJF

584
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:23.280
defending the AW World Championship against Hiroshi
Tanahashi. As MJF has said in the

585
00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:27.360
past, he does not want to
wrestle at Forbidden Door. He said in

586
00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:30.320
his promo that he will not be
participating in this match. Nonetheless, I

587
00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:36.880
feel like the Russling fan and real
life MJFF is absolutely loving that he's going

588
00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:39.079
to be in a match with Hiroshi
Tanahashi. Should be a fun one,

589
00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:43.039
Doctor Trey, Who do you like
this one? MJF or Hiroshi Tanahashi?

590
00:41:44.039 --> 00:41:46.519
Uh? This is kind of me. I feel like Tanahashi takes a lot

591
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:51.119
of defeats like you're basually like Okata, I just kind of like Tanahashi.

592
00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:54.280
He's one of those guys that makes
the AWA guys look good and then you

593
00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:59.119
know, loses in the end.
So I'm taking MJF once again just because

594
00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:04.599
I don't think, Yeah, I
just don't see any title belts really moving,

595
00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:07.880
you know, in the single division
on the show. So I'm gonna

596
00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:12.119
take MJF retaining the aw World title. Yeah, I can't see Hiroshi Tanahashi

597
00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:15.400
being the one to dethrow an MGF
turn this title reign, So I'm gonna

598
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:17.000
take MJF getting the victory as well, and I think it's gonna be a

599
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:21.880
very fun match to watch. So
four matches that have only been announce so

600
00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:23.880
far for Forbidden Door. As Doctor
Trey and I record this week's edition the

601
00:42:23.880 --> 00:42:30.480
podcast, we will recap and review
Forbidden Door in two weeks once I get

602
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:35.079
back from all the wedding festivities.
But never fear, everything that we're gonna

603
00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:38.079
be doing over the next couple of
weeks will still be regular programming for all

604
00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:44.559
of you, maybe slightly outdated,
which we'll talk about that schedule momentarily.

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But with that said, let's get
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on in the wonderful world of Doctor
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Jeff said, you can follow me
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find me on Facebook and Instagram Doctor
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check out Rocket c U Championship Wrestling. We just had a big shows past

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Saturday as part of one of my
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with my real life wife to try
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a pretty interestinal storyline going on there
with You're truly kind of caught in the

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middle of everything, so check it
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on commentary by myself the entire show, and I was told it wasn't horrible.

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So there you go. Words of
encouragement from doctor Trey Franklin. There

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you go. Always good to hear, Hey that was that was not too

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bad. You weren't horrible. Um, not that you're good, but Nate,

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you weren't horrible because I guess it's
I guess it's so positive things.

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So support all the great things that
support SRTU and continue to spread the word

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real quick. Here again on next
week's dis in the podcast, we preview

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and predict Money in the Bank two
thousand and twenty three, and we also

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look at the two twenty three srt
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of the year. Are always fun
to do that as we're halfway through,

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nearly halfway through two thousand twenty three, and then two weeks from now on

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July the sixth, we recap review
both A W New Japan presents Forbidden into

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Our twenty twenty three and W Money
in the Bank two thousand twenty three as

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well. So thank you for making
us part of your week. Thank you

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for downloading this week's edition. The
still Realtoe Show until next week for ductor

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Streif Franklin. I'm Jeff Pack.
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