CM Punk's (potential) AEW return and AEW Saturday Collision is finally announced | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #692 – 5/18/23

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It's stud Welcome everybody. Welcome to
this week's edition this s Realto Show,

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episode number six hundred ninety two May
oldteen, two twenty three. Welcome so

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this week's edition of s Bong.
I am one half of the show.

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I am Jeck joined every single week
on the lach By and my co host,

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the one and only doctor Trey Franklin. It's a little bit late while

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we're recording this, but doctor Trey, you were not in a press release

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and then removed from it? Were
you? My friend? Um? Let

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me think here. So, I
mean I have been banned from locations I

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have been. I don't know about
this. Do you get revit invited to

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all of your class reunions? Because
I don't. So I think I've been

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scrubbed from the yearbooks. So but
I have not been edited out of a

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press release yet. Okay, okay, fair enough. I have only had

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my ten year reunion. I didn't
go to it because I saw most of

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my friends at that point. But
twenty year reunions coming up next year,

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and I don't see a lot of
my friends anymore because we've all gotten old

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to have families, all that good
stuff. But yeah, no press releases,

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Doctor Trey being announced and then being
secretly scrubbed and removed. That has

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not happened. However, it has
happened to one one wrestling superstar. Were

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you about to say something, Doctor
Try, I actually, now that I

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think about it, I was announced
for a show recently and then unbooked without

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my knowledge. So I was taken
off of the flyers. Did you know

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you were booked? I guess yes, I can confirm the booking. The

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promoter his girlfriends said I said some
things about her and it made him mad,

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and so instead of calling me and
asking me about it, he just

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told everybody Elsium booked me, but
they never told me he unbooked me.

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So you went to the show?
No, I was like, I had

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heard about it coping by friends that
were on the show told me about it,

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and I was like, yeah,
we're just not gonna deal with that

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guy anymore. So it's kind of
fucked up, But yeah, I guess

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it did kind of happen that I
was scrubbed from the existence of a press

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release related relatable Doctor Try Franklin,
Folks, Doctor Try. Speaking of press

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releases, it was announced on Wednesday
during Warner Brother Discoveries, upfronts. This

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is all taking place, like every
major television company is doing these upfronts right

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now because it's ad season. They're
getting ready for the fall of twenty twenty

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three, which is scared because we
haven't even entered summer yet, which is

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awesome. I love summer. So
now it's a little bit scary that we're

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talking about fall. And of course
everybody had been talking about for the last

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for six weeks that AW was going
to be announcing a Saturday show. The

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Saturday show would be called Collision.
The Saturday show would see the return of

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cmpunk for the first time since the
brawl out in September twenty twenty two.

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Two of those three things happened.
AW Collision was announced to take place on

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Saturday, starting June seventeenth, for
two hours APM to ten PM, because

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that's what we need. We need
another night of professional wrestling, another two

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hours of professional wrestling, all jokes
aside. AW definitely can certainly utilize it.

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Can my wrestling fandom continue utilize it? As another debate for another day,

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but you know here we are,
Doctor Trey. Saturday Collision has been

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announced. Throwback logo very reminiscent of
WW Monday Nitro, which was badass.

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I dug it. The graphics which
is not getting a lot of love for

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some reason. I don't know if
people aren't noticing it or if I seven

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ready yet, but behind the throwback
logo is like this little digital stuff that

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is very reminiscent to WW Saturday Night, when the beginning of that entrance was

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like these little robots like move it
around and I think they like scanned a

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human body. It was very high
tech for nineteen ninety four. But people

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aren't mentioning that. I thought that
may have been a nod to know you

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Saturday Night as well, But I
digress. So Saturday Collision has been announced.

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There was also removers of a potential
brand split that is kind of wishy

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washy. Right now, it may
or may not be happening. I guess

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the only people that it won't affect
are the AW champions. Nonetheless, let's

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start with the first part of this
Doctor Trey Aw's new show, and it's

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on Saturdays, and it's called Collision. Your thoughts, you know, this

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is something we've talked about. They
kind of needed another two hours of TV

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time because their roster was really flushed
with a a lot of talent. Would

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you compare it to what ww head
going on with three hours of raw,

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two hours of NXC, two hours
of SmackDown. You know, they're filling

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seven hours with their roster, aw
is trying to fill it with three.

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This at least gets them back up
to five hours. So you know,

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well as rampage, rampage is one
hour, right, rampage is one hour

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yea, yeah, so this gets
them up to five hours of television time

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a week. So it's going to
give some people more, some more exposures,

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maybe help build some storylines, maybe
help build some backstories, flushed out

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some character to the character, some
things that we've been asking for for a

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while. So I'm happy in that
regard. Maybe not thrilled with the time

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slot. Maybe, like if you're
trying to capture casual fans doing a Saturday

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night show when people are usually going
out on date nights on at eighteen to

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you know, forty five demographic,
you might be missing some folks. I

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was kind of hoping they would land
at six o'clock on TVs because that'll be

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fantastic from six oh five so far
on about the cheap of you wheel maybe,

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um, but yeah, I was
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bit earlier because now it's like,
I mean, Jeff, you and I

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both have significant others. Can you
imagine looking at your wife or girlfriend or

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fiance and going, maybe I'd love
to take you out the movies, but

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collisions on, I have to watch
it for the podcast. This is how

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guys like us end up single again
and in our parents' basement is because of

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you know, timing of things like
this. So time slot wishes a little

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bit earlier, but I get it. It's a prime time slot, you

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know, TV or Warner Bowers came
outs that are doubling down on wrestling,

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and this is why they're doing it. Hey, it's it's great for the

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brand. It's great for the product, not great for wrestling fans. Guys

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like us who do podcasts who have
to somehow consume all of this wrestling now

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to you know, verbal diarrhea.
All of our fans who listen to us

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that we can talk about all this
stuff. So I would say nineteen percent

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positive for a so far. Yeah, I mean, they definitely need it.

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There are so many more wrestlers than
when they first launched. A lot

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of wrestlers have been shelved for a
long time. Miro thunder Rosa, I

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mean, well, she's been injured, but even like Action and Ready,

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like since he had that victory over
Chris Jericho, it's like, what the

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hell is this guy done? Not
much? There's been so many stars that

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don't frequent on television each week and
they lose a ton of momentum and fans

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tend to forget about him. I'm
sure there's a laundry list of wrestlers that

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you enjoy watching that are being shelved
because there's just not enough TV time.

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I like Best Friends a lot.
They get a decent amount of play,

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especially late with Bandido, but there's
period of times where they're just kind of

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background players to Orange Casside, Like
Orange Casside gets a ton of airtime,

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and rightfully so, he's like one
of my favorite wrestlers right now and one

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of the best champions in all professional
wrestling. Like him and Gunther I think

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are some of the unsung heroes when
it comes to champions and professional wrestling presently,

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so they definitely need it. Saturday
Night is not ideal. This is

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one hundred percent going to be a
DVR. I should say ninety percent because

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the winners here in the Northeast suck. It's not like where Doctor Trey is,

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where it's just like fifteen you have
to put on a sweatshirt. It'll

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be a DVR show for sure the
next several months when it's really nice,

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and then like when football season comes, like I don't know, like how

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the hell do I squeeze it in
on a Sunday. Maybe a lot of

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YouTube watching. I don't know,
But I mean Dynamite is musty television.

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Rampage, which is shifting towards a
like up and comer show which I dig,

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has become kind of non like a
show that I wouldn't typically watch if

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I didn't have a podcast, Like
Rampage is fine, but they're not progress

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in anything. And it's nowhere where
guys or girls are getting some more airtime

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that I think kind of need it. So we'll see where that goes with

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that. Collision is a nice addition, but I don't know. I mean,

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brand splits all this stuff. You
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see Miro, you see Andre Andre
al Elo, you see Powerhouse Hobbs,

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you see FTR. It's like hmm. These are all like seeing punk people.

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There's a little bit more to that, which we'll get into him and

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just a little bit. The brand
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not happening. It's going to be
loose, it's not happening at all,

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Like it's this complete volley which maybe
AW doesn't know what the hell they're going

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to do. But I think I'm
to the point where I would totally be

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down where Collision is a brand for
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as we discussed on last week's show, it's like, wh not just make

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dynamite AW and you make Roh the
Saturday Show? Like then you legitimately have

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two resting brands and organizations and you
could run it. I'm for the brand

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split, especially if it gives more
people some time, but it seems like

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I guess that's a little bit cloudy, not as cloudy as the next thing

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that will discuss about someone that was
missing from that poster. But where do

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you sit on the brand split that
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I mean, at this point,
I don't I just I think it's going

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to happen, because then you can
have like, hey, so finite people

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on this brand, finite number of
people on this brand, and then you

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can actually it's kind of like budgeting
time for these people to get their exposure

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and get there and get there,
get their stuff in. All I can

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think about was a couple weeks ago
we talked about the draft, the WW

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Draft, and how one of our
favorite drafts was when they had Flair and

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Vince do the draft and all like
a picture was like Katy Obega and Cumpunk

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out front for their respective shows drafting
folks, Like how much fun would that

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actually be? I think until the
Punk stuff's ironed out, I think that

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they're just to have like a case
of their roster just being in flux,

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and if he is going to come
back, then hey, we can actually

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dedicate some of his guys to that
show, and you know, Kenny's folks

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and you know Matt and Nick's folks
to the other show. My only worry

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about that is that if that's the
route they take where they split, they

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split the company based on who wants
to work with one guy and who doesn't

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want to work with a guy like
doesn't have give credibility and more power to

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each individual guy on that show,
Like, oh, I don't want to

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work for kennymore, I want to
go work for Phil. I don't want

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work playing where I want to go
work for Kenny. Oh I wanted to

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commnegotime my contract and if I leave, you know, half his rosters and

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the quid too. Like it just
once again kind of feels like the guy

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in charge of everything is just kind
of trying to play peacekeeper and not being

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an actual leader in this situation.
So or he comes off like a mark,

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right yeah, yeah, Like,
oh well, hey, if you

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come back, I'll give you your
own show and you can have your own

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guys on it. If that's the
case, just call it a w Ring

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of Honor. You didn't have to
make a new brand. You could just

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literally like use the name and all
those guys have their love for Ring of

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Honor and it would have been fine. It just like you said, it

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feels like a guy who's not being
a leader and just being a fan of

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the guys he's hired, which is
never a good recipe for success. Could

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you I mentione like you know,
like any NFL coach, Like I mean,

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you're got your team traded away their
Hall of Famer franchise quarterback this year

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just because they got tired of putting
up with this childish pettiness, you know,

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and moved on. That's actually what
leaders actually do in that situation where

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this is this is like the Packers
that we're gonna start our second team in

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Milwaukee. He's just giving Aaron Rodgers'
own team. Yeah, the Brewers are

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coming to football and Aaron Rodgers will
be there. I mean, that's a

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great analogy. I mean, I
think you hit right on the head.

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So let's get to the cmpunk part
of this chapter is there were reports out

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I think on either Monday or Tuesday, saw Andrew Zarinian from Russian Observer had

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tweeted out, expect the return of
cmpunk to be announced this week to a

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w expected that would take place with
the collision. So collision is announced and

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in the graphic collision is no cmpunk
at all. Jimmy Train a former former

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longtime friend of mine, actually we
did our podcast back in two thousand and

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nine, back in the day before
he blew up for Sports Illustrated. He

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sent out a screenshot of I guess
it was like the header for an email

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that said like AW Saturday Collisions coming
check out CM, Punk, Powerhouse,

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obs FTR, thunder Rose Amro Right, So there was something, but it

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was completely scrubbed out. So there's
a lot of confusion. Wait, I

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thought Punk was coming back earlier in
the day. It's feeling like, well,

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maybe they're holding off on this so
that it's a surprise to night for

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Dynamite. And then you hear the
reports Warner Brothers Discovery is saying that Sampunk

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is not affiliated with AW Collision.
It's like, wait, what, Okay,

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that's weird, and then you hear
a couple hours later that I guess

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and this is all being reported,
right, we have no inside intel,

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so this is just us reacting,
which I know wrestlers, especially Sampunk.

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Hey, but according to reports that
there were some sort of story out there

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that Sampunk was under the belief that
A Steel, one of his good friends

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who was fired from brawl Out a
produced for a w was going to return

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to the company and was going to
working Collision. Somewhere before the announcement for

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Collision, it was revealed to Punk
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working remote and that did not sit
well with Cmpunk. So you saw I

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think it was Thursday morning Warner Brothers
Discovery. There was a story out there

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that they were hoping to workout issues
with Cmpunk. Punk again was caught off

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guard. And then you hear a
report later today actually that aw rehired a

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Steel quote months ago and that A
Steel has been working in creative with Tony

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Kahn remotely. The thought was that
once Punk came back, that A Steel

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would be back on the road working
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So that was surprising because we hadn't
heard that. Props to AWE for

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keeping that tight lipped. So a
Steel is back and there's all this,

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you know, roughly the feathers still
or what have you or Punk was still

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removed from the press release. Wasn't
happy with a Steel not being behind the

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scenes. But there was another adelaide
to the story. In the story about

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aw being rehiring a Steel is from
came from Haus of Wrestling. It was

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mentioned that Cmpunk was motivated still to
help AW. So it's like this is

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bizarre brawl out happens twenty twenty two. We all know what happens. Punk

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Elite a Steel, They get into
a fight. Punk is out on injury

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with triceps. They were trying to
build the bridges back together. Punk and

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the elites Sale haven't talked. Punk
talks to Jericho somewhere, a Steel gets

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back involved. So clearly AW wants
to bring Cmpunk back. Cmpunk clearly wants

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to be back in AW. What
happened at brawl Out and why nobody's talking

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about it, why things aren't resolved
is a whole other story. But now

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we reach collision Collision, and again
there's this added story later today where it's

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like Punk is motivated to help,
so and I'm a huge Sampunk fan,

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so this is just calling it like
I see it. If cm Punk is

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motivated to help, why didn't he
still go forward with being announced for AW

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Collision. There's two streets on this
right. One is obviously he's upset that

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a Steal isn't going to be back
on the road, did not like the

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disagreement, put a little bit of
a pause, playing hardball with Tony Conn

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and a w and he's like,
whoa wa, whoa, We're not doing

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this yet until we figure it out. Or there's also this story circulating that

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Punk didn't want his return to be
announced he should it should be a surprise,

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and like it should be closer to
the return, which I will give

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some narrative. There could be some
legitimatelycy behind that, because I think if

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you announced it now a month before
a collision happens, there may be some

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serious anti see him Punk chants that
are taken place if you announced it maybe

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two three weeks from now, and
somehow it gets brought up creatively a little

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bit better than just a random mentioned. Maybe it's better accepted. But let's

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go back to the story where he's
removed from the press release. Upset about

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a steel. There's a disagreement with
AW. As a fan of AW,

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and even as a fan of c
Himpunk, this story does not make Sehimpunk

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look great. And then you come
out on Instagram last night or on Wednesday

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night and told the fans to stop
with tribalism and to touch grass. So

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it's all bizarre here Doctor Trey recapped
it all there. That brings us to

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now punk is official return to AW
has not been announced yet, was not

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in the collision press release. Could
be upset about a steel not being back

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on the road. A steal is
back with the company, but see him

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Punk is mo devated to help your
thoughts. Oh and you left out the

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part where he went and visited WWE
and Impact Wrestling. But he's motivated to

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help aw which hey by I mean
he could be doing some u some some

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scouting, some recruiting. Could it
could be something like that as well?

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Um, yes and no, so
like I want to say, like I

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want you going makes Punk wo bad. But then again, if these are

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all things a still being part of
collision, all these things were promised to

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him and then renegged upon, it
looks once again bad on Tony Kahn,

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like he's trying to play both sides. And that's that's that's the part of

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this whole story that just drives me
absolutely insane, is that there are no

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adults in this room. You know, like every time we think there's an

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adult, like something stupid and childish
comes out and then you kind of lose

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the like luster to it. It's
like somebody needs to stand up and just

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take charge and if you like me, great, and if you don't like

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me, straw off. Like somebody
needs to take control of the situation because

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it just feels like it's very just
which every way the wind blows, like,

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Oh, I'm on Dynamite, I
gotta be nice to Kenning the Bucks.

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Oh, we're going to the Collision
stuff. Let me see if I

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can be nice to Ace and Phil
And you know, it's just it just

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feels like which every way the wind
blows is kind of where this story goes

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because you know, honestly, you
can see both sides of the story.

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You can see both sides, and
you know they always say he says,

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she said, the truth is always
in the middle. You know, my

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only concern right now, Jeff,
with this whole situation is is Larry the

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Dog. Okay. That's That's where
I'm at with this whole team right now,

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until them Punk shows up on Collision, That's where I'm at, Like

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until like, oh you see Kenny
Omega come out and say like I've I've

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made peace with everybody and everything is
like cool, Are y'all gonna work a

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match together? Because I think that's
what fans want to see, Like people

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just want to see, you know, the elements of realism in a fictitious

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fight. If we know you guys
have real life, you know issues,

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we want to see you guys in
the wrestling ring. Because either we want

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to see a great match or we
want to see a train wreck. But

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right now it just feels like it
just makes everybody look bad. And Warner

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Brothers just like, hey, we'll
keep giving you guys money, Like,

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just just show up. We'll keep
giving you guys money. We'll keep you

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Like they're moving the T and T
show that we both said we like the

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All Access shows moving to the new
Max streaming service. You know, it's

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like there's just Warner Brothers like going, guys, if you can just figure

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this out, we will throw buckets
of money at you guys. And they're

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like, yeah, but I'm mad
at him. Well I'm mad at him,

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but I'm mad at him. It's
like this is not like there's personal

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and there's business. There's a lot
of money to be made here. People

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just act like the adults in the
room. That's trade is see him punk

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the worst thing to ever happen a
wum. I still go enjoy Janella,

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but it's just a personal thing.
Oh no way, I take that fact.

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They signed Leo Rush also at one
point, so we all know my

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love for Leo Rush. If they
had signed Sasha Banks at the same time,

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I would have been like just this
coupy just hates me in particular.

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But I don't know, Like I'm
still trying to figure out if see him

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Punks the worst thing to happen aw
or the best thing, because like,

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as a guy who's been in leadership
roles in multiple companies, like I can

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kind of see his point at times, So I don't know if he's a

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bad thing for it or maybe a
good thing because look, one of the

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founders of this company left to go
wrestle somewhere else where he had no power,

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Like is that a rat jumping the
ship? You know what I'm saying,

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Like, maybe Punk coming in is
actually a good thing because maybe he

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is the adult in the room and
everybody else is still teenagers, or maybe

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he's a substitute teacher that nobody likes
it. It just kind of depends on

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how you view see him Punk at
all this because like I said, everything

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he said for the most part at
the brawl out I didn't disagree with.

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So is it really a bad thing
if he's actually speaking his truth so to

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speak? So here then here's the
second part of it, right, If

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he's not the worst thing is the
bucks Kenny Hangman, some of the founders

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of this company, are they some
of the worst things because that happened to

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this company because maybe they weren't used
to being in a professional wrestling organization where

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it was like their actual day job, right, they would go to ROH

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for a little bit, they'd go
to New Japan for a little bit,

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they go to PWG for a little
bit, Like they didn't work in the

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WWE atmosphere, Like what do you
think about that? Like is that because

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you got to look at two sides
to every story here, Like there's a

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ton of negative point and seeing Punk
because I do think it's ludicrous and bullshit

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that if he's legitimately trying to help
out the startup wrestling company, which it

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still is four years in, like
be on the fucking press release for the

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brand new show, dude, unless
creatively, creatively they're waiting a couple more

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weeks, which that story wasn't out
there. The story was out that Wednesday

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that Punk is potentially pissed off and
has a disagreement because of Ace Steel not

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being back on the road, Like
what's the problem here? Like how have

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we not figured this out yet?
Punk talks to Jericho they reportedly work things

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out. Will they be best friends
while they change Christmas cards? Maybe?

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Maybe not? Who gives a shit? But like the stuff with the Elite

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still reportedly has not been resolved,
Like why has that not happened? Why

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has that not happened? Punk is
out there on Instagram and he's calling out

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Jericho and Moxley. Moxley gets on
his wife's podcast and I think did a

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pretty damn good job of not really
wanting to get in the bullshit, but

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he addresses it like Punk is fifty
percent of this. He's bringing a lot

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of bullshits at the table. Kenny, the Bucks, Hangman, they brought

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bullshits at the table, Like,
I just I don't get it, Like,

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could we be looking at the side
that Kenny and the Bucks and Hangman

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are just as much to blame as
well? Are they potentially the worst thing

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that's ever happened in the company is
even though they're founders. So I'm trying

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to figure out a way to kind
of for this to make sense to me.

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It feels like I was watching The
Top Gun, the New Maverick movie

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before the show started, and I
kind of feel like it's it's kind of

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a good comparison where you know,
the indie darling guys, the the elites,

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the guys that have just traveled and
you know, had a lot of

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Mark promoters kind of catered to their
whims because they have a good following.

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They don't they play by their own
set of rules, and you know Tom

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Cruise Maverick plays by the side of
the rules. The Navy or in this

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case, WW or other professional wrestling
companies like WCW and things like that have

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their own set of rules, and
sometimes you try to meld those two worlds

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together. It's either really really beautiful
or it's a nightmare. And you see

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that in the workplace as well,
like you bring in a hot shot sales

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guy who's kind of just been a
freelance sales guy, but you bring him

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into a corporate setting all of a
sudden he can't adapt. And I feel

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like at times you have this old
guard of the fulkerk W guys that are

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used to structured, uh you know, hierarchy protocols, things like that,

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and then you have the guys who
you know have done all the all the

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small like all the smaller promotions or
the big indie shows where they didn't really

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have those roles and you're trying to
meld that and together into this, you

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know, amalgamy type wrestling promotion.
And I think that's one of things that

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Cody struggled with. I think it's
the thing that alt guys, like the

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Mirrors, the andras, things like
that those guys have struggled with is they're

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kind of used to structure, and
it feels like a lot of times AW

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doesn't have structure to it. It
doesn't have a hierarchy of pecking order,

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a protocol to follow, like those
other places that they kind of grew up

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in and thrived in had those things
in place, and I think that's where

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you get this kind of pushback.
It's almost like you know, taking two

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sides of a magnet and trying to
push them together and they just repel each

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other like on paper. Like in
Jericho's mentioned it, Jericho, it was

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just adaptable. Jericho mentioned we first
got the company, he didn't understand the

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Orange Cassidy gimmick, he didn't understand
the Darby Allan gimmicks. He didn't understand

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a lot of these gimmicks that were
super over from the indies and how it

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would work in professional wrestling. Now, Jericho's smart enough of a guy to

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kind of go, hey, if
the crowd likes it, I'm into it,

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you know where instead of like the
old guards, just like others stupid

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bullshit, we're just gonna I'm just
gonna keep ignoring it. I think that's

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where we're at with this, is
that you have a guy like see him

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Punk that is actually a really old
school wrestling guy at heart, where you

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have the elite maybe being the new
generation of what professional wrestling is, and

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there's gonna be an odds, and
then you have a guy in the middle

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like a Tony Khan who just who
loves all these guys and wants them all

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to get along, but he doesn't
know how I actually make them work together.

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He just tries to appease both sides
until somebody calls somebody else on a

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lie or a misleading information. In
that where we get to these kids of

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situations, and that takes me my
last point here is Tony Conne the worst

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thing happened to aw He's the money
man. But yes, he said yeah,

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yes right away, So that just
takes all the wind out of the

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sales. But let's add it.
Write the money Okay, that's great,

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but creatively, did you watch Sonamite
last night? Parts of it? And

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they're right about the rest not a
good episode from my opinion in reaction,

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was was good normally, but just
like it felt like I was like Speedball

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and it was just insane how quick
everything was going, and it was It

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was not a great episode. And
I have felt like for the last couple

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of years, maybe in nearly two
years that creatively aw lost that buzz that

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it had from like nineteen to early
twenty one that was really good, like

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really good creative. I would say
from its launch to after all out September

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twenty twenty one was a really good
error for the company and then afterwards like

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it completely lost its way. They
just like signed everybody, had them debut

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and then did nothing with them.
And creatively, like there were some hits,

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there was a lot of misses,
but it was like head scratching um

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all the time. Like I'm a
huge J White fan and I know he

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was in the main event slot on
Wednesday Night, but J White to be

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contending for a championship, you gotta
ride the buzz. The Guy is a

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former IWGP heavyweight World Heavyweight champion and
he's fewing with where he's arks, which

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is great. The feud has been
has been good, it's been decent,

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00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:37.160
but it's like, man, we
gotta puts our pushing this guy, like

403
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:41.279
what are we doing? The action
and Dretti stuff. He defeats Chris Jericho

404
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:47.240
earlier this year, it's the biggest, like shocking when we've seen since one

405
00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:51.319
two three and Razor ramone two three
Kid and Razormon which just happened thirty years

406
00:30:51.319 --> 00:30:53.960
ago this week, which let's all
feel old again. That's like, what

407
00:30:55.119 --> 00:30:57.079
I mean, what are we doing? And then the second show it's like,

408
00:30:57.400 --> 00:31:00.839
okay, maybe this will help out
a little little bit, but is

409
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:06.319
he the right guy for creative running
the company? I don't think so.

410
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:11.680
I think better executives and better leaders
that's been the theme of the show.

411
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:18.960
Would have resolved this elite see him
Punk situation for the betterment of the company,

412
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:22.119
and he hasn't. At the end
of the day, Punk walking off

413
00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:29.599
the press release being upset having a
disagreement with a Steel about a Steel's role

414
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:34.279
with the company. The elite allowing
Hangman Page to call out Punk in a

415
00:31:34.359 --> 00:31:41.000
promo before that led to all this
stuff that falls at his feet and he's

416
00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:45.000
not leading from the front. It's
clearly noticeable from the outside to the fans

417
00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:52.440
and for all intents his purposes,
he's been spoken about very highly by a

418
00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:55.960
lot of wrestlers. Is a really
nice guy, great boss. People love

419
00:31:56.039 --> 00:32:00.319
him. But maybe that's where it
stops running rust of an organization. Maybe

420
00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:04.240
you let Moxley, maybe you let
Jericho, maybe let Danielson do it.

421
00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:08.039
At this point, like I don't
know, it just doesn't doesn't seem right.

422
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:10.480
And then I just think about like
the stuff a couple maybe like a

423
00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:15.039
year ago bringing up Joey Jannello,
they did not have a talent relations department,

424
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:17.559
Like people would just fade away and
their contracts would expire and they wouldn't

425
00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:22.599
tell them happen new Uh, Joey
Janella, Marco Stunt, And that left

426
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:24.920
a bad taste in those guys mouths, and that's not how things should be

427
00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:30.160
treated. So then AW turned it
around and they had Tony Shivanni involved in

428
00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:35.559
Christopher Daniels or whatever. It's just
I don't know. People keep going there,

429
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:38.839
Doctor Trey, people keep going there, people keep signing with AW.

430
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:44.119
So it's weird. The money is
good I mean if the money is good.

431
00:32:44.279 --> 00:32:47.119
Look, there have been jobs,
yeah, but they're starting to work.

432
00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:52.519
They're starting to work a lot like
Dwe's calendar right house shows, Wednesday

433
00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:57.640
show, Saturday show r H.
They figured out they have to get money

434
00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:00.720
out of these investments. Yeah,
yeah, like, hey, we got

435
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:05.720
to actually make money off these shows. I mean we just like put Karen

436
00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:08.400
Jarrett's on a show. Damn it. We gotta pay her two hundred thousand

437
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:13.759
dollars a year because we have equal
checks for everybody across the board. We

438
00:33:13.880 --> 00:33:15.599
have to make some money out of
this. What it feels like. So

439
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:21.240
Tony Kahn, like so everything people
say about Tony Khan. He's a wonderful

440
00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:23.480
guy. He's really easy to talk
to you. This is the same thing

441
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:28.599
that every beautiful woman says about their
best guy friend. Not the guy that

442
00:33:28.599 --> 00:33:31.640
they actually date, but like that
guy that's always in the friend zone.

443
00:33:31.640 --> 00:33:35.720
He's always there for you. He's
a super nice guy. He's really smart,

444
00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:38.000
he's really creative. He's not a
leader. He's not the guy who's

445
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:43.319
gonna stand up and kick somebody in
the pulse. Like you look at the

446
00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:45.920
history of w W, Like since
you and I've been watching it. People

447
00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:51.599
have gotten mad and walked out on
Vince so many times. Vince never gave

448
00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:53.880
any of those guys their own show. This said, all right, cool,

449
00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:58.480
I'll see you. I'll just make
it another you until you come back

450
00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:01.240
and apologize whole Covid wocked off,
you know, walked away from it,

451
00:34:01.319 --> 00:34:05.519
came back Vince game and title shot. Hogan pissed him up again. Cool

452
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:08.719
see a palad to head to turner
Land. Sean Michael's left, lost his

453
00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:13.400
smile, went home, Bret Hart
left. You know, all the stone

454
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:15.199
Colts got mad about the brock Lesser
match and took us a ball and went

455
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:20.039
home. Fence never begged any of
these guys to come back. It's this,

456
00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:23.199
I'll make another you the show.
And this is one thing I've learned

457
00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:29.039
with rockets An the show is not
about the guys on the show. It's

458
00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:34.559
about the show itself and making the
show better to be the everlasting thing.

459
00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:37.639
Guys get old. Mother Nature's undefeated. Guys get old, they have to

460
00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:42.199
retire, they get hurt. It's
just the nature of the beasts. WB's

461
00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:45.719
been around for what like since the
actual Fence took it over and what eighty

462
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:52.039
one, So we got almost forty
years of WWE or over forty years.

463
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:57.960
WWWF was around before that. It's
because the show is actually bigger than the

464
00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:01.400
performers, and people forget sometimes,
like I don't know anyway, wouldn't you

465
00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:05.360
know? I didn't think I'd keep
watching wrestling after Austin and Roca left,

466
00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:07.880
and then I did. I didn't
think i'd watch, you know, WCW

467
00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:13.039
and all stuff after the nWo left
or retire when you shutdown still watching stuff.

468
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:15.559
I still go back and watch stuff
because the show is bigger than the

469
00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:21.039
performers, and people lose track of
that. You know, you've been alive

470
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:23.000
through Brett Farr, Aaron Rodgers.
Now you're on the Jordan loved. You're

471
00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:27.800
a Packers fan. You're not a
player fan. You like your players,

472
00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:31.679
but you're a fan of the team
the organization because those things are everlasting.

473
00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:37.480
So people lose sight of that,
and when leaders lose sight of that,

474
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:44.440
that's when your company starts to struggle. Speaking of contracts negotiations, Tony Kahn

475
00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:47.559
the leader. According to the Rustling
Observer and Newsletter, there has been no

476
00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:54.920
recent movement regarding contract negotiations between the
Elite and aw SO. The Elite signed

477
00:35:54.960 --> 00:36:00.760
multi year contracts with the company back
in January twenty nineteen. They agreed to

478
00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:04.280
new deals in twenty twenty one that
would take them until twenty twenty four.

479
00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:07.440
Kenny Omega's deal, which was due
to expire in February, was extended due

480
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:14.920
to time miss because of his injury. No recent movement with contract negotiations,

481
00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:21.480
that's bizarre. I don't think there's
an AW without the Elite, and ultimately

482
00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:24.440
to wrap up everything with the Punk
situation as well. I want AW to

483
00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:29.280
be successful. I want see him
Punk to wrestle in AW. I want

484
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:31.519
the Elite to wrestle in AW.
I want everybody to work this out and

485
00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:37.360
make some damn money and make them
good creative on television because drama and controversy

486
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:43.440
pushes things forward. But this is
a concern. Is this showing a little

487
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:45.280
bit that maybe be a leader upset
with the way that things are being ran,

488
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:50.760
Doctor Tree? If they have not
had any recent movement regarding contract negotiations,

489
00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:52.960
No, No, I didn't worry
be. It's just it's all leveraging.

490
00:36:53.559 --> 00:36:57.360
I mean they I mean they know
how much Cody got paid go to

491
00:36:57.480 --> 00:37:01.559
WWE. You know, they see
all the Hubbub about the MJF. You

492
00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:05.639
know, a bidding war coming up. They know there's money out there and

493
00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:08.320
if somebody's gonna pay them a look, if WV comes in and says,

494
00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:10.840
hey, we'll pay you twice way
w's been paying you, why would you

495
00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:15.800
take a contract early? You know, they have agents, they have representatives,

496
00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:17.719
they have feelers out there. They
kind of know what the market's gonna

497
00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:22.599
be like when it comes time.
You know, it's not like the NFL.

498
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:25.559
When your contracts almost up, either
try to get your home team to

499
00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:30.039
resign you for market value, or
you go become a free agent, you

500
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:32.559
know, or you do like so
these players do. And now, just

501
00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:37.320
now, wouldn't Kenny and the Bucks
scrub all their social media of AW references?

502
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:42.039
All right, cool, we'll start. That's like the NFL trick now

503
00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:45.679
apparently, but you know, for
me, like not moving on yet.

504
00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:49.679
No, Like Hew Boxley's contract was
up, he was wrestling for three months

505
00:37:49.679 --> 00:37:52.840
on a handshake deal. That's just
kind of how the wrestling business is.

506
00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:57.719
They don't really do something until they
absolutely have to. And you know,

507
00:37:57.760 --> 00:38:01.199
if it comes out that Triple H
has you know, had serious feelers out

508
00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:05.559
to Kenny and the Bucket. Maybe
it makes Tony working a little harder,

509
00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:08.840
but when you start a company with
a guy, he's always going to feel

510
00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:13.039
like you're going to come back to
him, you know. And I just

511
00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:16.440
don't think that Tony kaf feels like
he's in a rush to do this because

512
00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:21.800
he's negotiating new TV rights deals,
getting a new show launched, trying to

513
00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:24.960
make shim Punk happy. The contract
thing for him is on the back burner

514
00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:30.079
because in his mind, as the
owner of the company, he has more

515
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:32.599
pressing issue to deal with, because
you know, he just kind of thinks

516
00:38:32.639 --> 00:38:35.760
Kenny and the Bucks are gonna be
loyal to him and they'll cut him the

517
00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:40.000
hometown discount. So until that leverage
comes into play, they don't need to

518
00:38:40.039 --> 00:38:44.960
use that card right now. Interesting
situation all on, all the drama around

519
00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:51.119
aw was Gangbusters for a couple of
months, cooled down, and then this

520
00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:53.840
past week kind of ramping back up
again. How do you think this all

521
00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:57.960
works out? Doctor Treys? What's
the prediction on May eighteenth? How do

522
00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:00.840
you think this all shakes out?
I think them Punk shows up at Collision

523
00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:07.800
on June seventeenth in Chicago, because
how monster was that Poppy got in Chicago

524
00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:13.880
last time. Like, I just
feel like it's there's too much money on

525
00:39:13.920 --> 00:39:20.679
the table for them to not work
something out for everybody involved. Otherwise this

526
00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:24.440
is the biggest bunkled incident, you
know, maybe of all time. Like

527
00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:30.360
you have two stars who have a
leg this is Sean and Brent, Like,

528
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:32.920
this is what we always wanted to
have the rematch for after the Montreal

529
00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:37.639
screw job that we never got because
it's legitimate beef. It's legitimate you know,

530
00:39:38.239 --> 00:39:44.719
anger played out in a fictitious sport
where at any point things could go

531
00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:49.840
awry. And if you don't somehow
make this work, if you want to

532
00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:55.840
have a match that could rival a
WrestleMania type thing, that's your match and

533
00:39:57.199 --> 00:40:00.559
that's gonna get you all your fans
to buy into watch. And if you

534
00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:06.039
mess this up, I don't think
you have anything else on this roster that

535
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:10.679
could rival eight potential Kenny Omega CM
Punk match at you know, a major

536
00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:14.760
event. You just don't have anything
else in the you know, in your

537
00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:20.239
playbook they could rival that Switching Gears, Doctor Trey to World Russia Entertainment.

538
00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:23.800
We're talking dream matches, Kenny Omega
CM Punk Well, at Nightive Champions to

539
00:40:23.920 --> 00:40:28.840
crown the new w W World Heavyweight
Champion. I don't want to say first

540
00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:34.440
because the title was around. I
guess the first of this new incarnation of

541
00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:38.519
the championship will be Seth Rollins versus
AJ Styles to decide a winner. Seth

542
00:40:38.639 --> 00:40:44.719
Rollins representing Raw, AJ Styles representing
SmackDown. I laugh because it's like they

543
00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:49.320
told us the title would be um
Brand specific to Raw, but we have

544
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:53.039
a SmackDown wrestler competing for it.
This is a dream matchup Doctor Trey and

545
00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:57.679
and I love it. I think
this is this is the match that that

546
00:40:57.800 --> 00:41:00.519
I wanted to see once I realized
Cody Rhodes will going to be in the

547
00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:04.719
running for it. Your thoughts here
next week will be prepunter predicting the show

548
00:41:04.880 --> 00:41:07.920
Seth Rons AJ Styles. Was this
the right choice to crown a new worldwide

549
00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:15.760
champion in this era of wrestling?
Yes, it is arguably the two best

550
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:20.079
in ring performers w TW has to
offer. In fact, if you look

551
00:41:20.119 --> 00:41:24.880
at the history of this show,
this is two of our last three male

552
00:41:24.960 --> 00:41:29.400
superstars of the year going at it. I think AJ had it for two

553
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:30.480
years, Seth had it for two
years. That Romans had it for two

554
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:37.760
years, so on paper, literally
the best in ring matchup you can come

555
00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:42.800
up with. I do wish there
was a little bit storyline built into it

556
00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:46.440
other than just you know, hey, it's for the title and then the

557
00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:51.960
whole it's a SmackDown guy competing for
a Raw championship, even though we have

558
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:54.760
BEYONC and Oscar for the Raw Women's
championship, and they're all both ons back

559
00:41:54.800 --> 00:42:01.440
down, you know, right right
now, until they've finally fixed where these

560
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:05.800
title belts are going. I don't
because I can look at it. Go.

561
00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:07.440
If AJ wins, they just gonna
tak the AJ and the OC moving

562
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:13.039
over the Raw, so you know, and then then everything's okay because I

563
00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:16.840
believe the whole OC was drafted as
a group. So move the whole OC

564
00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:22.639
to Raw and then everything's fixed.
Two weeks on SmackDown back to Raw.

565
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:25.679
Look AJ and like the Good Brothers
don't look good and Blue they look better

566
00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:30.480
in red. So that's why.
Um. But yeah, but on paper,

567
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:32.559
if you said, hey, give
me two guys in this company you

568
00:42:32.599 --> 00:42:38.440
want to see go for thirty minutes
in a match for a championship, I

569
00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:44.320
mean eighty five percent the people will
probably picked this matchup. So and then

570
00:42:44.360 --> 00:42:50.320
also, I don't think I think
they've wrestled singles one match before this.

571
00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:55.639
I was actually there live. It
was Money the Bank two thousand eighteen,

572
00:42:55.960 --> 00:43:00.559
the year that Kofi won the w
Championship. Yeah, and then I thought

573
00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:07.119
they might have had a raw match
nineteen. Yeah. So but yeah,

574
00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:09.280
for two guys that have been the
company now for quite a while to have

575
00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:15.920
only had one previous encounter, yeah, this is fantastic. So um.

576
00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:21.760
And this is also what modern wrestling
fans want to see, athletic acrobatic performers

577
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:23.800
that can go They don't you know, not everybody likes the big man,

578
00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:30.880
you know, the you know,
big beefy men swapping meats. You know.

579
00:43:31.039 --> 00:43:35.920
I love a good hoss fight.
But this is like the John Woo

580
00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:39.280
equivalent of a wrestling match. To
have Seth and AJ going b I got

581
00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:43.119
it. I just in my head, I'm hyping this up to be a

582
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:45.440
Match of the Year candidate, and
I just really don't want to be let

583
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:51.159
down by it because it is happening
in Saudi Arabia. I'm just happy that

584
00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:54.559
Agstells is back in the World Championship
picture. He has not been in that

585
00:43:54.599 --> 00:44:00.559
picture since I want to say Survivor
Series two thousand, is it? No,

586
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:04.599
it was twenty eighteen ish I want
to say. I want to say

587
00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:08.159
Daniel Bryan ended up defeating him and
then went on to take on brock Lesner.

588
00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:12.559
That's when he started doing the Planet
Champion heading into twenty nineteen, and

589
00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:16.840
then Wrestling thirty five was him and
Kofy. But AJ has not been in

590
00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:22.519
the world title picture for nearly five
years. He's been He's had some high

591
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:24.320
profile matches, right The stuff with
the Undertaker was huge, and he was

592
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:30.840
doing that with the OC, Then
he was tagging with Omas Denny was injured

593
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:34.599
for a little bit, then he
was here and there for a little bit.

594
00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:39.000
It's like he hasn't been doing single
wrestling matches in a while. So

595
00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:43.039
this is great that he's back in
the World Championship picture. I think that's

596
00:44:43.079 --> 00:44:45.599
where he should be. Hopefully this
bodes well for him heading to the summer

597
00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:50.039
because he should be, you know, challenging Roman or if he's the World

598
00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:53.960
Champion, representing that title with Pride. So I'm still seth rollins AJ styles.

599
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:59.880
We will preview and predict that match
on next week's podcast. It's gonna

600
00:44:59.920 --> 00:45:02.559
be fully loaded show heading into a
moral day weekend, just like the wrestling

601
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:07.360
gods wanted it, with Night Off, Champions, Double or Nothing, and

602
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:14.559
XT Battleground all taking place next weekend, So that'll be the entire show unless

603
00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:17.840
something crazy happens and like see Him, Punk is released from his contract,

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So more on that all on next
week's edition of SRTU. With that said,

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Championship Wrestling is. We are just
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coming up this Saturday in Lovely Hazel
Green, Alabama. On that show,

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We're gonna have action. Mike Jackson
defending the Rocket City World Heavyweight Championship against

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Lord James Cicero. Barry Koloff defends
the rockets City Television Championship against Sin Body,

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Chase Owens versus Lutha X Scrap,
Iron Lewis, Tiger Kid, and

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Ryan Bishop versus Dalton Castle and the
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Bottle Royal like, I am so
excited for this. Um. Do you

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listen to the Conrad Thompson podcasting Network. Are you familiar with Cassio Kid?

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I am a little bit. He
does the rhodoc show right. Yes,

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Cassio Kid's wife if you've ever heard
her mention her name is Big Boody Judy

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on the radio. She is actually
making her Dave ju at Rocket City this

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weekend as well, so Cassio Kay
will be in the crowd. A certain

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announcer from Georgia, the Hales and
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in building. A certain podcast.
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this week, so a lot of
stars making their way down to Hazley Green

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for Wrestling Tons six this weekend.
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Um, congratulations to everybody because we
were going to reset the clock.

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Doctor Trey Franklin was not abused by
Sammy Franklin this week. We still have

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a couple of seconds to go,
so congratulations to doctor Trey for that.

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That was that That's that's pretty big. Yeah, but now he's threatening me.

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So he's sitting here playing Mario.
See he's playing Super Smouth Brothers.

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So at any moment, I could
be here with the Nintendo's WI. So

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let's wrap this up so that we
can restart the clock. So until next

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week, we were proving predict Ninive
Champions NXC Battleground and of course aw doula

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or nothing. Thank you for tuning
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for Sammy Franklin, I'm Jeff.
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