Cody's Controversial Victory, Oba's First Main Roster Loss & The El Grande Americano Craze | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #851 – 6/4/

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It's still really a big damage to me!

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[Music]

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What now me?

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[Music]

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Welcome everybody!

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Welcome to this week's a dissimistorola show,

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Episode number 851 for June 4th, 2026.

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This year, definitely a reflection of the recap and review edition of "AS"

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R.T.U.

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I am one after the show, I am Jeff Pacton,

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joined every single week, like always, the one away Dr. Frank Lynn,

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Dr. Trey, have you ever lost a mask versus mask match, my friend?

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Ah, let's see, this, yeah.

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I wrestled a midget, I wrestled in a handicap match,

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I wrestled a giant, I wrestled a woman,

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so no, I have never lost a mask versus mask match,

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but I did briefly wear a mask, though, in my wrestling career,

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so it's not foreign to me, I just never lost it in an actual match,

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so no, never lost it.

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I'm undefeated then.

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And you never, and you did wrestle someone that was dressed as Sting?

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Now, that was just my, I didn't wrestle him,

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he was just there dressed as Sting.

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No wait, I take that back, I did have him in a match,

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but he wasn't dressed as Sting, that was our survivor series match,

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which my team lost, I did, I did lose the survivor series match

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to the guy who dressed as Sting, but just not that match.

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Okay, yeah, that is still one of my favorite stories you ever told

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when you were starting a wrestling career,

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is that you were doing like, dueling, ring announcing, and hosting,

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and the other guy dressed up as Sting.

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Do you ever keep in touch with that guy?

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Yeah, yeah, we're still friends this day,

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like he does wrestling commentary type stuff up in Tennessee now,

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but yeah, I still run into him from time to time,

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but yeah, like that's, he's just a super nice guy,

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but he got in because he was a super fan,

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and he just never lost his super fandom of professional wrestling,

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so, but yeah, that was also the show that D-Von Dudley,

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basically got super mad that we did live commentary during the matches,

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and he refused to let his sons wrestle in a match

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if we were doing live commentary.

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I remember they were, they were working some of the shows you're on.

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How long have you been in wrestling for now?

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It's well over, it's got to be well over 10 years, right?

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It's, see, started in 2014, so August will be my 12 year mark, yeah.

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And it all just started basically like hanging out at a bar, wasn't it?

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It basically started because A of this podcast,

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because I dated a girl who worked at a bar that hosted wrestling shows,

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and I had blown off a date to record the podcast,

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and she came back later on, she's like,

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"Well, I should introduce you to the owners of this show,

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because you do a wrestling podcast,

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and they run a wrestling show, you guys should meet."

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Wow.

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After about 30 minutes of talking, they're like,

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"Hey, would you like to do commentary on our shows?"

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And then the rest is history from there.

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There we go.

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Wow. Well, over 10 years in professional wrestling.

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Amazing. Amazing.

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It's, it's very funny what this show has led to,

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where it led to, for me, like broadcasting career,

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working in radio, sports radio,

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and you, a career in professional wrestling.

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Like, I don't think that's something you and I ever envision

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when we first started playing EA Gameshow,

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which birthed multiple podcasts, birthed this podcast,

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birthed our friendship, and here we are still 851 episodes later.

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- Wow. - And don't lie.

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Let's say don't lie.

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That's all, this podcast is what caused you to get married,

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because your wife was a super fan of this show.

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- Go on, you're so-- - You're so illicit.

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I'm kidding.

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Yeah, so 100% she loves that I watch professional wrestling.

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No doubt ever complains about it whatsoever.

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Let's get into it.

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Let's recap WWE clash in Italy for this past Sunday,

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from the Inape Arena in Toronto, Italy.

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The first match here, which aired on ESPN,

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was Cody Rhodes, defeating Gunther to retain

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the Undisputed WWE Championship.

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Both Dr. Trey and I had Cody Rhodes in this one.

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Dr. Trey, did the controversial finish take away

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from the match in a bad way?

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Because Cody now feels Roman level 2 protected.

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Did it take away from the match itself in your opinion?

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- I don't like weird finishes.

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I don't mind the interference finishes.

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I don't mind chicaneery.

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I don't mind the low blow.

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I don't mind so like that.

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But isn't this the same finish almost that Gunther had

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with Randy Orton a few years ago?

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Just like it's weird, the foot's under the robe,

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and it's like the referee does.

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Like those ones I hate.

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I don't know if it, I guess yeah, it took away from the match

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'cause it was a fantastic match.

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And then the finish felt just a little bit off.

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I don't, I saw people burying the match though

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because I always say the match was just trash

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because of the finish, but yeah, it's like, come on.

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Like you're protecting Cody,

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you're trying to protect Gunther,

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and it's just like yeah,

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like there could have been a better way to get to that

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other than just that awkward clunkiness to it.

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- Yeah, it was clunky and I mean,

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we talked about it on last week's show.

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My concern was how this will,

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how did they, how did they gotta go forward with this match

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with two well protected stars in Gunther and Cody Rhodes?

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And I think you look at it and you're like, okay,

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well this the finish basically is leading to a second match.

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But I don't know if I want to see a second match

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between these two guys.

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It is felt like based on some things that we're seeing,

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reading how it's all worked out.

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This was not the original creative we're led to believe

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is that this is just basically a period of time,

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two top stars where you're just kind of putting them

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both in a holding pattern.

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So I mean Cody wins, but Gunther's foot was under the rope,

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so he really didn't lose because Gunther doesn't lose

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one-on-one matches.

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He only loses when he has a championship.

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It's very, very rare and I wish that statistic

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was kind of showcase a little bit more to the importance of it.

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The finish was very confusing.

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I mean I watched it and it just felt like it was something was off,

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like almost the referee miscounted to a degree

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and then they sold it where the camera angle was kind of out of place

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and you see his foot's under the rope and then they pulls the leg back.

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And even though he's the top baby face, Cody does these things

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that are very healish where I think in maybe a different world

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wrestling fans wouldn't love and respect him as the QB1 of the company,

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which is very odd right now because actually there are two top men's world champions

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which are arguably their two top baby faces have some healish tendencies,

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but this is that gray area you talk about, Dr. Trey.

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It was a disappointing match overall for me.

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I just, the controversial finish I did not love it all.

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Yes, I actually really enjoyed the match up until the finish.

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Agreed.

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And maybe I'm into my orbit like I was like, "This is really good."

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And you know that contrasting styles,

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but then when you do it ending like that,

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especially I don't know if you watched the triple A show,

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but they're hyping up like how good the referees are doing,

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you know, in certain matches like,

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"Oh, he paused his count to make sure the shoulder was fully down

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before he counted three." Like they're hyping out the performance

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and they always want to play up like how good the referees are,

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but then it's like you get a finish like this and it's just like,

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"Oh, he just did a scene." It's like, "Well no, that's literally his job."

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Like the referee's job is to be down in a position,

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especially when a wrestler's limb can reach the ropes

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where he can see that and see the shoulders like that's,

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you're almost bearing the referee in stuff like that.

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And I can't remember who the referee was,

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but it's like you're making the ref look stupid.

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And then that means that leads to like the credibility of the referee

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and that can affect matches down the road.

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Like we're seeing that later on in the show with the Jessica Karshto.

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Like I don't want my refs looking stupid.

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I want my refs to be basically invisible the entire match,

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you know, because the attention should be on the match

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and what the guys in the ring are doing and not the actual referee.

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So it took away from the match.

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I would like, if it was a, you know, if you were saying that it was going to be a four

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and a half star match, but the finish took it down to maybe like a 3.75 or a four.

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Next match here is Rhea Ripley defeating Jade Cargill to retain the WWE Women's Championship.

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We both had Rhea Ripley in this one.

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I thought this was one of if not the best Jade Cargill in-ring performance ever.

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Dr. Tre is her in-ring performance criticism behind her.

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I feel like this is something we've talked about or at least I brought up here now.

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Several matches of hers is the in-ring performance criticism behind her.

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I'm going to say so.

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I was going to ask you.

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I didn't know where you were going to go when you were kind of recap the match.

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I thought this was Jade's best match also.

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And Rhea is not known for being a great in-ring performer like she's solid.

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But like if you're someone like who can carry somebody through a match,

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Rhea is not at the top of our list.

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So Jade had to do her part in this match and she did really well.

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I will say she's now been in the business five years, six years, somewhere there.

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Yeah, 2020.

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At this point you should be pretty solid in the ring at least.

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At least be able to carry your own.

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I think she's at that level now and she's all with the look, the promo ability.

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And now she's getting the in-ring ability like she's a bankable star that they can lean on for the next five to ten years.

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Whatever they want to get you know credit.

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And look, we still have not gotten our dream match of Bianca and Jade.

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And it's still probably a year or two away from happening.

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So like that's still we got to get to.

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So yeah, my van she's going to be even better because she's really putting in the war.

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You can see that she's putting in the work to get better.

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I hate using this comparison but she's kind of Nikki Bella, you know, in this sense of like

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was not growing the ring had everything else you wanted and then got better and better.

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She's just looks more like a pro wrestler than Nikki Bella ever did but yeah, I can't, I can't,

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I can't knock Jade for being a bad wrestler anymore.

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So crap, that sucks.

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I like that was my go-to for a long time but now she's actually pretty decent.

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Yeah, and it looks like they're shifting her now towards an eventual feud here with Charlotte Flair

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which I think is a dream match.

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I mean, even during her time in A.W., while she was kind of learning as she went in professional wrestling.

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A lot of people felt that a Charlotte Flair match with her at some point was at least from a visual

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standpoint on the table and now that the in-ring stuff is there, I think it's going to be very

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exciting to see this and I think it's based.

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It looks like it's lining up for Summerslam but it could be sooner rather

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than later depending on how they fill out that night of Champions card and also Saturday nights

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in the main event in New York City in mid-July.

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Next match here is Brock Lesnar defeating Oba Femme.

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We both had Brock Lesnar in this one.

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Loved the entrance of Brock Lesnar, the Italian fans singing his theme song.

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It's a shame that it feels like his career is coming to an end here because that is something

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that I think could have lasted now the rest of his career or fans getting behind that.

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He clearly ate it up and was having a fun time so that was pretty cool to see him get hyped up for that.

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Is this a good thing though, Dr. Trey, to get Oba's first loss on the main roster out of the way?

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I believe his only other WWE TV loss came against Tony DiAngelo in NXT when he dropped the

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North American Championship. Is this a good thing that we finally got the first main roster loss

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out of the way rather than having them run rough shot as undefeated?

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Yeah, and I mentioned that it's probably a couple weeks ago but you have to get that law.

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You have to make Oba look like he is defeatable.

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Now yeah, it took what 37 F5s and like 5 tables and a low blow to, I mean it's crazy how many things

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that Brock had to do put him down but you have to put a chink in the armor of every performer.

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Otherwise you get what we did with Undertaker WrestleMania for so many years where it's like,

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oh yeah, it's Haker's winning. It just becomes almost like a pre-determined outcome

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than what professional wrestling usually is. So getting a little small chink in the armor

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for Oba Femi is not a bad thing because it does kind of humanize them a little bit.

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But overall, I think it's good for everybody involved here. By the way, Brock doing the Oba dance when

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the Oba was coming out also was really cool. This will be the path of Oba Femi now in the next

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three to four weeks is going to be very intriguing to watch because he's in the king of the ring

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tournament which we will preview and give our thoughts. He already won his first round match

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in just a little bit and I think when you look at the tournament bracket on paper you're

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merely going, oh this is Oba's to win. I mean this has got to send him up for Summer Slam.

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But there's part of me as I've been saying I was like I feel like this is a trifecta and then Brock

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is going to get that one last Saudi and Arabian mega payday and they'll wrestle a night of champions

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but if Oba's in that finals for the king of the ring, I think that's off the table which then

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leads me to believe would they be doing Oba and Brock at Saturday and it's been a

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event in match that's where Garden Midglai. Like I think Brock has one or two more matches left

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and then you look at how close that is to Summer Slam in Minneapolis, Minnesota

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and it makes you wonder is Oba. There's a lot of things in play here like that if you do midglai,

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I think it's like July 18th with Brock and Oba at Saturday and it's been a event. Well then that

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doesn't give them a long window to build towards maybe in a match or retirement match with Gunther

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which I think is the play here and then it also makes you wonder from the Roman Reigns aspect of it

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which we'll talk about him here in a little bit that maybe Roman is going to be around for a

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little bit longer holding this championship and he is not around for just a four-month time frame

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basically to pass the Torx Oba family at Summer Slam. So lots to play here right now and we'll kind

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of kind of we'll kind of piece this all together here towards a later part of the show when we look

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at the king of the ring stuff. Next match here is Sol Ruka defeating Becky Lynch to win the WWE

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Women's Intercontinental Championship. Both Dr. Trey and I had Becky Lynch in this one. Dr. Trey,

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what is the bigger story? Becky continues to put over a younger talent during this icy title run

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like Lyra, Maxine and Soul or this is the beginning of the rise of Sol Ruka.

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Um man, I'm going to go with the Sol Ruka angle because I've seen people kind of go yeah, Becky

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puts people over but then immediately takes it away from them. So I'm going to go with the trust

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into the rise of Sol Ruka is the bigger story because you and I last week the reason we picked Becky Lynch

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was because Sol stumbled quite a few times this coming to the main roster and you and I didn't

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think she was maybe ready for this spot. The fact they're trusting her in this role leads me to

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believe that they're going to keep pushing her as much as possible. So to me that just shows they

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got faith in her that she's going to turn some of these negatives into positives that she's a

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bankable star that you know she's probably the future of the women's division in five years.

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So I'm going to go like this is kind of that launching pad for Sol Ruka becoming a main event star

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here in the next years for WWE. And the thing it's funny because we were talking about the her not

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being ready and if you go back in that match um there was a point where Becky is on the turnbuckle

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wants to do the leg drop and she's telling Sol where to go like it was obviously piece to part a

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lot in social media and it was noticeable during the match. And this stuff where like Sol is struggling

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in some of these matches I'm I never witnessed this during her NXT run. It's like the nerves are

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getting the best of her and maybe she's forgotten about herself a little bit and just how damn good

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she is in the ring and how well she connects with the audience. The minute she finds that confidence

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and this is just me watching as if you were at home from what I think I may be seen who knows what's

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actually going on in her head behind the scenes. Once she figures that all out Dr. Trey I think she is

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going to be a mecha star and yeah I mean she's missed up in a little bit now she's got the icy title

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I think she's going to connect very very well with the audience her in-ring stuff is always phenomenal

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and exciting and hopefully she just kind of gets through this little blip and just realizes like

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her talent will always shine through it's it's noticeable so far and we were I was surprised that

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they gave her the intercutter on championship because of that coming out of the show but might as well

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push her in the water push her in the ocean they may say and then the next and final match here

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Dr. Trey was Roman Reigns defeating Jacob Fattu in tribal combat to retain the world

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every way championship you and I both had Roman Reigns on Mondays Raw Jacob Fattu acknowledges

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Roman Reigns as his tribal chief is now aligned with the Usos and Roman Reigns in this bloodline

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2.0 they walk out together the role of Jacob Fattu and the persona and the character that he will

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play moving forward will be very intriguing and interesting to watch I compared it to I think it

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was like Helen Sell 2020 when Roman defeated Jey Uso in that match and then Jey started to follow

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in line that it's it's it's mirroring it's mirroring a lot of things which leads me to this question

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Dr. Trey does the bloodline rebirth storyline that's what I'm going to be trademarking and calling it

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feel recycled or are you interested in it a little above and I know I'm kind of walking I'm kind

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of straddling the fence here a little bit but the dynamics of this are very interesting to me like

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yeah there is a little bit like the recycled storyline to it but we've seen it's weird we have

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more depth to these four people's characters than we did five years ago then five years ago I

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damn you I could barely tell Jay and Jimmy apart you know like now it's like you have the history of

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Jey Uso the last three years you have Jimmy's run you saw Jacob you know coming on to WWB yelling

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out I love you solo then turning on solo and then going on his run and now following line so the

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depth of the characters has gotten me intrigued because who's going to be the first one to break

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away is it going to be Jake as we've seen Jay be a little more unhinged as well you know is it

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going to be Jacob he just can't take falling in line as part of this family you know so like I'm

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intrigued by the characters in this storyline but it does at time feel a little rehash it's also a

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little bit of you know solo being the enforcer and the original bloodline with Jacob in this role so

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it's it's a little bit of recycling this but there's more depth to these characters than we had when

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the bloodline storyline kicked off five six years ago yeah there's there's layers to this we'll talk

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about the MFT stuff the Jacob Fatt two stuff that's being in there it's it feels to me you know coming

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out of WrestleMania the vibe that I got as I just talked about not too long ago here because of the

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interview that Roman did after WrestleMania during the post show was that Romans like I'm gonna be

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rounder in the summer and Roman's been pointing out like hey this is this is this is kind of like almost

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my last ride like I don't have many WrestleMania's left and I felt like okay he'll be around for four

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months lead to Oba Femi getting the push getting the torch and then carrying it from there and it looks

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more like you know it's this slow slow burn of the return of the bloodline where the Usos are

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aligned with him Roman is doing things in the ring that are similar to his time as the tribal chief

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in the OTC while he's still getting cheered and then they're they're building with Jacob Fatt two

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who knows what the MFTs fall into this like it just feels like that this is becoming like a big thing

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you know they were trying to to to stop and prevent the bloodline from ever being reborn everybody

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was off and doing their own thing and while everybody's not paying attention they're they're reforming

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like the mob like the mafia they are they are getting stronger and and ready to take over WWE at a

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moments notice and that makes me wonder what is this long-term play with Jacob Fatt two now in the

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bloodline doctor tray is he got to be filling that like Jay Usos role where he's the right hand man

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he's the guy that eventually you know breaks out like what are we thinking is is is going to be

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Jacob Fatt two's role here in the bloodline yeah I'm it's a little bit of to me like when Sean

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Michaels and JBL had their storyline and Sean got entered into servitude for JBL and eventually he

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just can't take any more and breaks away this could also lead to the J-whoso he'll turn

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it's curious to me about this because as much as we love Jacob Fatt two if you look at the guys

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who are usually on top of WWE I mean World Champion WWE Champion they're the guys you put on TV

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to do the late night talk shows to do like all the commercials I don't know if Jacob falls into that

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category because we've never really had somebody like Jacob organically get over to where it starts

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becoming where like oh crap we're gonna have to make him a champion like the last 10 years I

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mean I'm trying to think of like somebody who's like I can't think of anybody whose character kind

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of resembles him not just character but also look appearance the whole nine yards maybe a

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break wide but Brady didn't have the belt very long just you know typically it's good looking guy

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very charismatic very handsome easy on the eyes you know people jump on board and see what he's

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doing I don't know if Jacob falls into that category so it's gonna be interesting to see how they

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book this because typically when you have a big group like this and somebody breaks out they do

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ascend to that top spot and I just don't know if Jacob will be that guy in the eyes of WWE and TKO

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I will say Fatu's early interactions with J.U. So I think they have the ability to become very entertaining

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like with J.U. So like basically telling um telling Jacob Fatu to fall in line and all that stuff and

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him getting his face would be like J.I. Don't answer to you I think that there's some potential there

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for being some some very very entertaining stuff uh the layer to this all and I like that the

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bloodline rebirth storyline is is starting to slow burn up it's it's I don't think it's recycled I think

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it's it fits well with how the bloodline has been in WWE these last six years so I I'm very

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interested in and the direction of where it's going the layer to this doctor tray that has me

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incredibly fatigued interested in tree I should say is the MFTs and where they fit into the storyline

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so they're standing outside the barrier following the match of clash in Italy Roman Reigns as he has

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something for them he matches that again on raw we don't know what that actually means uh solo did

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perform on raw lost but it didn't lead to anything maybe we'll see it carry over to Smackdown

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what do you think if any the MFTs roles could be in this entire thing

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well if you remember you go back through your bloodline story Roman and Nointin Solo

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has like the guy to take his spot at some point you know it wasn't Jimmy it wasn't J it was it was solo

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and maybe we get like maybe Roman's looking at this is like hey let's bring everybody in house

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we get a super bloodline you know or something along those lines um but it is we see the

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issue the dynamic because this way Roman could almost oversee two kingdoms the kingdom on raw

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the bloodline and the kingdom on Smackdown with the MFT so it's it's interesting because you know

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Roman's like you mentioned earlier in the map you know going back to the the match with Cody or

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Lear like Roman is a baby face but he has these heel tendencies and by forming some kind of super

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group super family type thing like it is Roman kind of walking that line between heel and baby

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face if that comes through fruition so I don't know if like I don't think of bloodline versus MFT

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storyline what exciting because there's nobody in the MFTs that's on the Romans level um so to me

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it has to be almost like a super Samoan group yeah it's it seems like that's what things are going

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like it wouldn't surprise me if there's everybody falls in line and Romans bloodline is stronger than ever

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it you know this the bloodline has always been compared to star wars right if your star wars fan

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you kind of get it this is the return of of the empire and not only is the empire

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getting stronger they're getting larger and they could become indestructible and then all the

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sun and you've got like the Avengers of the WWE that needs to stop it there's a lot of foreshadowing

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going on with a stuffed post clash and Italy with Roman and Cody being face to face in the backstage

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area this to me all I the Roman train is is not stopping until next year's WrestleMania um I feel like

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we could be headed towards Roman and Cody 3 which was some rumblings for this past year's

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WrestleMania that did not take place and Roman and Cody has to take down Roman and the empire one more

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time uh and for good potentially so it's uh it's exciting Dr. Traum I'm I'm excited to see this it

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it feels like as of late WWE is kind of getting their groove back storyline storyline wise

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yeah I would I would say but when you mentioned the like a kind of reminding your star wars I'm like

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a kind of reminding me like those like the bloodline world order yeah you have the bloodline Hollywood

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and bloodline wolf pack you know it's like that um but yeah it does kind of feel that way like

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I saw rumors that you know that sets on the horizon for Roman I mean you could literally almost

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like bring a super group together to battle them and you know you still have these outlier guys

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we're like LA nights you know talking about you know he's seeing it coming and yep so there's a lot

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of baby faces that you could kind of pull in together to battles but then again if the bloodline

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becomes a heel faction then where does like the Braun Breaker, Braun's and Reed Logan Paul vision Paul

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Paul the player dude we in have seen those all of those guys turn baby face to battle the

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bloodline world order like where does it all kind of fit in so it does feel like WWE is going to get

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their groove back like we're getting some layers on these storylines we're seeing the Easter eggs

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we saw a little bit the Maxine Dupree Easter egg play out a little bit you know so like that just

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shows that they're being cognizant of hey we have this storyline but then we can start you know

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getting the embers stoked for some of these underlying storylines to cycle them up when we need

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something to kind of kick off and take place to kind of you know to kind of fill in the gaps when

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Roma's not around or Cody's not around or you know whatever it is.

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People for your prediction record you and I both win 4-1 for Clash and Italy we both sit at 21

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and 10 event rating and match of the night for me I gave Clash and Italy a 4.0 and my match of

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the night was rear-lipply and Jade Cargo what's a you Dr. Trey. I had Clash nearly at a 4.1

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thought I was a really solid show I gave mine to Roman and Jacob I mean I liked I liked

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to read and Jay but I really did enjoy some tribal combat so I went with Roman and Jacob and

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their match. So there you go feel free to chime in give us your ratings and review match of the

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night as well over at patreon.com/srtupodcast. Dr. Trey there is a match that is

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taking professional wrestling by storm and it sits in WWE not in a w it was from Triple A's Noche

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Dale's Los Grande's match or show this past Saturday night in Monterey Mexico I believe it was

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and it was the mask versus mass match between El Grande and Americano versus the OG original El Grande

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Americano. So much so that the match re-air at the close of RAW on Netflix this past Monday I was

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going to go out of my way to check it out after everybody was raving it about it but then thankfully

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they aired it after RAW this past week and that's how I watched the match I actually watched the match

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but about an hour or so before we record the podcast today and it's it's it's interesting because I

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know everybody's like Meltzer's even hyping it up like loved it and everybody who is in tune to

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what's going on Triple A right now is talking about how this storyline is and when you look at it

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from a WWE perspective you've got Ludwig Keiser a spoiler alert under the El Grande Americano mask

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and now the reveal Chad Gable in the OG mask so you have Chad Gable and Ludwig Keiser

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guys that were working the mid cards like lower or mid tier mid cards and I have an upper mid cards

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in WWE and they are putting Mexico on their back Triple A on their back and there's no title

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involved and people are just eating it up and I'm watching the match the match is about over like

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35 minutes long and I wish I could appreciate the storyline more dr. Tre because the fans were

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in it from start to finish and you know on the outside looking in I think we could criticize

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WWE because in Triple A they have six non-Hispanic wrestlers working under masks right now

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dominating the top storyline with Ryo and Bravo they kind of remind me of Tyler Bate and Pete Dunn

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and the Los Hermanos Americano's kind of reminding me of the Creed Brothers so I watch the match

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love the match so much so I think that El Grande Americano Ludwig Keiser will never leave Triple A

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because I don't think that character can can carry over to the main roster of Ron Smackdown I think

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he could be a mega star in Mexico for them and it's kind of pretty cool and exciting and I wish I had

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more time in the day watch Triple A now under the WWE banner but that's I think you could very much

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criticize and poke holes through win WWE acquired Triple A but from what I saw this past

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Saturday night and just watching that match loan dr. Tre does seem like WWE has been successful

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in transitioning themselves themselves over as the owners of Triple A and giving the Mexican fans

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something they could be proud of I don't know if you watched the match I did I do think it's a match

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of the year candidate and it was very exciting and everything and emotion, blood, you know violence

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and it connected with the audience so it was it was pretty cool your thoughts on the match dr. Tre

420
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if you had a chance to watch it so I watched the entire show last night like and I mean when I say

421
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last night I mean I finished up at like one o'clock in the morning I watched it from start to finish

422
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,640
because I had heard every time I just the show in general and I was like I mean obviously I had

423
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,880
heard about the match I was like man I'm I'm just gonna watch the entire show and I'll tune in to

424
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:52,680
Triple A every so often you know drives long drives like you know I was telling you off air like I'm

425
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:57,240
driving North Carolina tomorrow so like if they typically that's when I'll bust out a show that

426
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:03,480
typically wouldn't watch and kind of just check out what's going on the show was great the crowd

427
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:11,160
was great but I I have not seen a crowd that hyped up for a match in a very very long time

428
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:17,720
maybe since Clash at the castle with Drew McIntyre and Roman Reigns

429
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:27,160
the match itself was really well done and you're right it had everything it had dramas you know it had

430
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:34,840
violence had crowd interaction it had you know people I I thought that was Boy George that

431
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:42,360
pippy person yeah I was like Boy George is making a comeback like who is this person like they did

432
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,120
like I will say the couple the knocks on it like couple the camera angles you like they win

433
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:56,760
the first person hit OG Grande Americana with the with the guitar shot like you kind of missed it

434
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:04,280
you know but dude it also had love there's a love story involved in this thing I mean we talk about

435
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:10,200
wrestling being so popper for men I mean this was literally like you know like you mentioned

436
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:17,160
Star Wars this is almost like a feature film in like 35 minutes and I learned Chad Gables' middle name

437
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:24,200
in this match I mean just some I learned his birthday I we saw his wife and kids I mean

438
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:31,640
it literally was a telenovela in the ring so it was a fantastic match that the card itself from top

439
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:38,920
the bottom was really good my only knock on triple A right now is the the the war Raiders are your

440
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:47,800
tag team champions you know you got Dominic being your triple A mega champion El Helio Devoquingo

441
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:54,440
is your Latin American champion he's probably the most WWE guy of the triple A guys other than maybe

442
00:34:54,440 --> 00:35:00,520
Mr. Aguana it does feel like they're very kind of right Phoenix is a cruiser champion right

443
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:05,720
right Phoenix true is a champion yeah so like it is kind of like the the undercar the lower

444
00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:12,920
card in the mid card of WWE is gathering up championships in triple A and we're not kind of focusing

445
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:20,280
on the triple A stars that would be my only knock on everything in triple A but yeah that match

446
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:26,360
though yeah it's right I mean the tearing of the masks like you see that that tough of ludwig's

447
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:32,440
hair coming up the mask like the last 20 minutes of the match like that that's some old school

448
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:39,880
lucha Libre style stuff that I watched back in the 80s and 90s um so overall yeah it's it's

449
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:44,680
up there it's probably like top three for me is like match of the year candidates right now is

450
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:50,120
we get towards the half we're almost the halfway point of the year so it's right up there probably

451
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:57,720
top three right now a German impersonating an American who is embracing Mexican heritage is the

452
00:35:57,720 --> 00:36:05,240
most oversuperstar in triple A right now wild great stuff great great stuff and I think at some point

453
00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:11,320
you're you're going to see the triple A you know originals kind of not be phased out I mean it's

454
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:18,440
it's going to be a place where um maybe talent on rons macdown that aren't being well utilized

455
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:25,400
can contaminate like an ohmoss um it could even be a place for stars and NXT or the LFG's are

456
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:31,960
evolves to go and and cut their teeth first as well which we've seen with with some talent so it's uh

457
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:39,720
I just like that it's it's being embraced it's not like another NXT it's its own thing still

458
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and uh they kind of walked into this like this wasn't WWE forcing upon this this is being

459
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:51,000
embraced by the mexican fans the fans of triple A so that was pretty exciting and if you've not seen

460
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:55,240
the match highly recommended and as dr trey pointed out it it is definitely something that will be

461
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discussed for match of the year and we'll be looking at like the halfway point here in in just

462
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about a month's time we usually do it right around the fourth of july after the six month mark passes

463
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:11,320
which is also wild to think about for this year um final thing here dr trey is the king and king

464
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queen of the ring preview and predictions thus far so both winners of the king and queen of the ring

465
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will uh get a world title match at summer slam uh on raw this past money we had oboe feme advancing

466
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to the semi finals as he defeated pentas holosiko and carmelohaze on the female side eosky advanced

467
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:35,080
to the semi finals defeating roxie and prez julia and lash legend on raw uh the other matches I

468
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:39,560
actually thought it was a sixteen man and sixteen woman tournament and i was like wow they're

469
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:44,680
really excited i did an old school uh instead it was just fatal foraways which i know triple h loves

470
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:49,480
to do uh you've got domisterio brown breaker trick Williams and carmelohaze the winter faces oboe

471
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:55,400
feme in the semi's in one match sathoran javana evans tala tunga ricky saints in another jayuso

472
00:37:55,400 --> 00:38:00,520
la night rois kies and fin baller in the final one for the men's side and on the female side baili

473
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:06,280
versus rakell jc james and kiana james that winner will take on eoskyne the semi's live morgan who

474
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:11,240
is a world champion is in the tournament taking on becky lentil exobliss and chelsea green and you

475
00:38:11,240 --> 00:38:16,840
got soul ruka lira valkary charlotte flaren jade cargill in the other match um starting with the

476
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:22,440
king of the ring size uh side first year dr trey you know you you we kind of have been like

477
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:29,640
talking about this uh in and out and it feels to me from what we're seeing on doubter we television

478
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:34,440
if you asked me a week ago i would have said oboe feme is lining up to be the king of the ring

479
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:40,680
and he'll take on roman reigns for the world championship um who knows maybe he can be facing kody

480
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:46,040
but i think this is actually lining up now for uh sath ralens to win and face roman reigns for the

481
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:50,440
world heavyweight championship at summer slam uh what's your vibe right now in the king of the

482
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:57,000
ring tournament yeah i'm kind of with you on that one i mean i i there's a few guys in here i'd

483
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like to see when like you know brawn breaker winning the whole thing would be great oboe winning

484
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:07,400
be great sath wouldn't be great um so there's a few options on the table because like we're like if

485
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:12,680
you're roman reigns and j ausos in the tournament like what are you telling j you know like there's

486
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:17,400
there's some good story lines out of this whole thing too i'm kind of with you on the sath ralens

487
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:24,600
thing because i do to me it's over our sath um it's one of those two because i'm still trying to

488
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:30,680
figure out we we kind of alluded this to earlier in the show is like how does the timeline play out

489
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:39,720
for roman between now and summer slam and roman and wrestle made uh can you say roman and oboe

490
00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:48,120
all the way to wrestle made and if you can then you can put sath in that spot at summer slam

491
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:54,280
and then come back and do roman and oboe at wrestle made because we talked about maybe

492
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:58,600
brock and oboe at summer slam but they're still the gunther factor like where does gunther fit into

493
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:04,680
all this he's not in this tournament uh are we sticking with gunther and kody does rand yordan come

494
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:10,120
back does gunther slide back and challenge brock at summer slam because he is the career killer so

495
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:17,560
it to me it's going to come down to oboe and sath but uh in the semi finals though if we get oboe and

496
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:23,480
dom in the semi finals how awesome with that yeah that would be awesome but the one i'm looking at

497
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:31,800
is oboe and brawn breaker yeah that's the one i want to see yeah i i from from a shirt like a sheer

498
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:38,920
power just two legit bad asses absolutely but dom is so good at playing the chicken shit coward

499
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:44,760
yes just him being in the ring with oboe struts out of him try to figure out some way to run away or

500
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:50,680
you know just some kind of you know shenanigans or whatever like just trying to watch dom swarb

501
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:55,240
his way out because we love like it's a weird world we live in now where we absolutely love dom

502
00:40:55,240 --> 00:41:01,400
nick mysterious character um but like yeah just watching dom like literally his character like literally

503
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:06,440
like crapping his pants as oboe walks out something i kind of want to see yeah i just have this five it's

504
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:13,080
oboe brawn in the next round the visions involved brock comes out costs over the match oboe versus uh

505
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:19,480
brock three at night of champions maybe you've got seven you've got i think sath and maybe

506
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:27,880
j a uso in the semis sath wins then we get sath brawn three and that'll decide like the end of that

507
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:32,920
that feud uh and then sath wins which i think most people you know would be groaning over thing the

508
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:39,320
king the ring tournament should be used to catapult uh up and coming stars to win the the matches rather

509
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,800
than the established guys but now that there's so many different ways you can earn a championship match

510
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:48,680
it's either this there's money in the bank there's the royal rumble that it's kind of like lost that

511
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:54,440
luster uh oboe and brawn would be my top two choices to win that in a normal world but i do feel like

512
00:41:54,440 --> 00:42:00,680
it's sath the queen of the ring size side doctor trailer like when i look at this i i think we're getting

513
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:06,600
we're getting eo sky versus live morgan in the finals like why else is the world champion in this

514
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:11,480
like imagine she gets upset in that first round match which could be a way to get her out of there

515
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,640
like i could see becky lynch maybe getting a run back up there but i feel like the queen of the

516
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:22,360
ring tournament is meant for eo sky to finally or to win and challenge maybe live morgan for the

517
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:30,120
world championship at summer slam yeah because i was when you're looking at it it's like who is in there

518
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:36,760
from smackdown that you go ooh i really like to see that match against rea dilly when i could think of

519
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:43,640
i mean we talk about charlotte jade i mean olexa in rea would be a good match up you know as summer

520
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:50,760
slam also with buddy math you sang another ring there you go the winner gets winner gets buddy math

521
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:57,240
use there you go um but yeah like i mean but you could actually play into that a little bit you can't

522
00:42:57,240 --> 00:43:00,920
i mean obviously you don't want to mention buddy math use because he's still under contract a w but

523
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:08,040
you could mention it like hey we've got some history some shared history here uh and the the smart

524
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:14,840
fans like us would eat that up um as much as i'd like to see eo like in that's the thing like who else

525
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:19,960
it does we saw a little bit of the tension playing out maybe a little bit with live in roxan maybe

526
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:26,360
roxan costs live the match in the first round to get to eo and live and then eventually we get to live in

527
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:31,480
roxan i'm just trying to like storyline play it out my head because it feels like both these

528
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:38,360
termizers like four people that theoretically you can see winning it out of the 16 but then which

529
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:47,000
ones are the most compelling storylines yeah no i know it's um it it's i like it i like the field i

530
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:53,880
like who they put in there um i think eo's been on the sidelines for too long where she should be

531
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:58,520
back up in there and then there's also part of me when you look at the field where it's like

532
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,040
it's funny because i was complaining that the king of the reign should be used to catapult someone

533
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:07,080
and we're talking about established former world champions um but there's like there's like

534
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:13,240
there's like jcj and kiana james were probably those two names that i would look at soles already

535
00:44:13,240 --> 00:44:19,080
got the intercontinental title i don't think livers get in that shot um there's also part of me that

536
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:24,920
thinks that a back-eat-lensary surgeons is due i i don't i think she's done her time in the ic title

537
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:31,240
lane dr. trai i i wouldn't be i wouldn't be shocked if she got back in that world championship

538
00:44:31,240 --> 00:44:38,840
picture as well but then this becky challenge ria yeah you can see that yeah question because

539
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:44,360
because it like if becky wins like yeah becky and live would be a great match but they're heels

540
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:51,720
you know like ria's not no no i was saying but if becky wins and she's on raw because she's the intercontinental

541
00:44:51,720 --> 00:44:58,520
champion hurts she would challenge live in theory now is the rule that if you win this term you can

542
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:03,000
challenge any champion or does that get champion on your brain i i i mean that's the famous

543
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:07,640
w_e_s creative right it's it's like the royal rumble thing you could challenge any chance that's how

544
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,560
i interpret it's just like the rumble if you win the rumble even though i'm on raw i could challenge

545
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:17,480
the title on smacked down like what revertly did so um we're not ready to riply she did it for

546
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:24,120
elimination chamber but i mean we've seen that in the past with the rumble so yeah um i don't think

547
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:31,720
it's side of the brands ria and becky is kind of i mean i i know they've wrestled a couple years ago

548
00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:41,640
yeah they wrestled mania 42 or 40 yeah because that was uh at the philadelphia one

549
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:47,720
yeah because what was it one of them like really sick yeah i think like was that the story like becky

550
00:45:47,720 --> 00:45:52,040
was sick or ria was sick before the match that's why the match wasn't that great one of them was yeah

551
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:58,040
it was russ mania 40 back in 24 yeah and so i mean i know they wrestled mania but i mean at this point

552
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:02,760
it's a different becky lunch it's a different ria ria ripply they're on different levels than they

553
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:07,720
were even back then so i mean you could cycle back to that match for summer slam and it would

554
00:46:07,720 --> 00:46:13,960
generate views i'd bring back the man character have a challenge for live but i think this is eos i

555
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:19,480
really do um and part of me would love to see the creative were eo instead challenges ria ripply

556
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:24,680
and we get a ria versus eo match because ria's never really defeated she's never defeated eo

557
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:29,160
sky in a singles match but that wouldn't make no storyline sense unless they check they decided

558
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:36,680
turn eo heal um so but you just did that emotional thing with oska so it was kind of like that's what i'm

559
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:41,880
saying that's yeah yeah i think it's i think it's eo and live i want to be surprised if we saw an

560
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:46,840
eo live finals because then would be like well what do they got to do with live and maybe lives like

561
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:52,040
all challenge for the other belt and win two championships um i also want to be surprised if we see

562
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:57,720
eo versus becky in the finals again i mean part of me if i was like i want to see the up in

563
00:46:57,720 --> 00:47:03,960
commerce it'd be jc james kiana jc jena james uh Chelsea drain i'd thrown there as well to

564
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:10,200
to have a break out match do you know that match is what it's becky uh there's that match in becky

565
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:18,280
lich niki live alexa Chelsea yeah i mean look at that match i mean like that is an incredible match

566
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:25,640
that there's what one two three four five there's like nine women's or no like alexa's been a five

567
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:30,600
time women's champ becky's a five time women's champ lives a two time three time three time

568
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:37,240
thirteen women's world title and then Chelsea green like and like i mean how great would be for

569
00:47:37,240 --> 00:47:43,960
Chelsea to steal the victory out of just Chelsea winning that match elevates Chelsea if you pull

570
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:49,480
the trigger and go that direction just in that match alone i agree and i think the other thing too

571
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:54,280
is i the fatal four ways it gets you quick into the semi finals i don't know why they don't pull what

572
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:59,720
AW does with the continental classic and just have um singles matches you know you got 16 stars

573
00:47:59,720 --> 00:48:04,120
it's a set it and forget it month creatively i mean and i i think fans would be fine with that

574
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:08,040
because it's moving storyline along and it's making the importance of the king queen of the ring

575
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:14,040
tournaments um that much bigger so i don't know not a big fan of the fatal four way first round matches

576
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:18,360
heading into then the singles matches for semi's but uh that's what somebody we like to do

577
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:22,280
you know heading to night of champions so there you go king and queen of the ring will be what

578
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:27,080
keeping on that as we go through uh the next several weeks leading into the finals taking place at

579
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night of champions at the end of june uh with that said dr. trail let's get a couple plugs and

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hey you might get out to a show and see two fifty year old fat guys in masks wrestle their own

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version of a mask versus mask match um by the way if psycho clown isn't a mask versus mask match and

592
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they rip the front off does he lose i don't know yeah i mean cuz you just got the dual mask right

593
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yeah i guess he does but yeah so there you go why do you love i do love that mask that mask is

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fantastic yeah that mask is badass so great stuff i wish there was more time in the day for me to

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check out triple a and i'll try to dabble into it a little bit more here because i think they've got

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week four doctorate franklin iam jeff pack this has been the still real this show.