May 3, 2024
Cody's Surprising WM 41 Plans Revealed and WWE Backlash Preview | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #742 – 5/2/24
On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:
- -- We recap the 2024 WWE Draft!
- -- Discuss Drew McIntyre re-signing with WWE!
- -- If WWE stars are less likely to opt for AEW now!
- -- The surprising tentative WrestleMania 41 plans for Cody Rhodes!...
On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:
- -- We recap the 2024 WWE Draft!
- -- Discuss Drew McIntyre re-signing with WWE!
- -- If WWE stars are less likely to opt for AEW now!
- -- The surprising tentative WrestleMania 41 plans for Cody Rhodes!
- -- And we preview & predict "WWE Backlash!"
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It's welcome everybody. Welcome to.
This week's edition is Storrealda Show episode number
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seven and forty two for May two, twenty twenty four. This is your
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WWE Backlash, Preview and Predictions edition
of s R Team You. I am
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one after the show, I am
Jeff Peck joined every single week from my
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host on only doctor Trey Franklin,
Doctor Trey, welcome back, my friend.
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Well, hey, you said joining
you every week, joining you ninety
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eight percent of the weeks. I
guess so. Yeah, my apologies.
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Everybody had had a personal situation that
came up that I had attend to sucks
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because I got I didn't get the
cover of the re debut of Jack Perry.
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I'm I am heartbroken by this.
I know, big big fan of
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Jack Perry. Doctor. Like some
would say scared of Jack Perry. I
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think Jack Perry's right there with Apollo
Cruise for me. You interesting, Yeah,
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it's it's it's it's his squeeze,
his main squeeze is Yeah. I
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mean, but honestly, like I
hated missing the show. It drives me
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nuts, especially coming back from my
trip from Atlanta, UH, where I
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got to go to a Brave's game, Jeff, I got to go to
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I got to add a ballpark to
my my resume of ballparks two be into
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although it was against the Florida Marlin, so I don't know if that really
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counts as in Miami, Miami,
Marland. No, they're Florida. You're
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dating, You're dating yourself. Now, big news this week for doctor Trey
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told me before the air, Doc
Tray, you have a huge announcement here
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my friend. Uh so, yeah, I was on Jeff off air that
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I've actually been like cigarette free for
five days now. I actually know what
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they actually it's been a week.
It's actually been seven last Thursday. This
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is huge. Yeah. I mean, Jeff's known me for over a decade
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and I've smoked the entire time I've
been smoking since. I didn't start smoking
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Jeff until I was of legal age, so I wasn't one of those kids
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that you know, stuck a cigarette
when they were teenager. I literally still
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remember the exact day I started smoking. I was like I was right after
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high school. I was eighteen,
got into a fight with my then girlfriend
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and looked at some friends like somebody
give me a cigarette, and they're like,
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you don't smoke. I'm like,
I do. Now give me a
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cigarette, and I have smoked.
Now it was thirty thirty, almost thirty
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years I smoked. That That is
a expensive habit, is it not.
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Uh, it really wasn't that bad
for me because I was never one of
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those like brand specific cigarette guys,
like I wouldn't go for like the cheap
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stuff that basically is like you know, road gravel wrapped in paper because fair
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whatever the cheapest name brand was at
the time. So now Obama, like
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you can still get a pack of
cigrets for like four bucks. Wow,
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okay, not like New York and
New Jersey Like that was actually I knew
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people that that was one of their
side hustles. They would buy cartons of
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cigarettes in Alabama or South Carolina and
then transported up to New Jersey or New
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York and sell it because I mean
last time I was in New Jersey,
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I think it was like twelve bucks
thirteen bucks for a pack of cigarettes,
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and it's expensive up here. Yeah, so I mean you're basically quadrupling your
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money. So you could buy a
cart and for like forty bucks and go
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to Jersey and sell it for four
hundred, So you know it was crazy,
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but uh yeah, it's some other
I still have a vaping thing a
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little bit, but had my first
ever had a cigarette on the drive home
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from Atlanta Wednesday night. I'm like, oh my god, this just tastes
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horrible and I threw it out.
Haven't had one since. So it's it's
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it's different like I had that.
I have that moment where I'm like,
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I'll look for one. I'm like, oh, yeah, I don't do
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that anymore. Now. This this
maybe regionally, but I know, like
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when when we were growing up,
like smoking was definitely a thing that kids
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did, and like you would see
ads for it in magazines, on television.
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Hell, I mean, NASCAR had
a series called the Winston Cup.
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And then basically the federal government has
done everything possible to mitigate smoking. Like
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you know, when I would go
to restaurants, it was smoking non smoking.
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Now you can't even do that at
all, which is like the most
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when you talk we talk about it, like a couple of times a year.
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I always feel like people my age
we talk about it, it's like
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that's the most insane thing of all
time that we thought, like, no,
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I'm gonna sit in non smoking and
like you would be okay, it
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was just the invisible wall. It
was just smoking. And like I remember
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going to like Burger King or McDonald's
and there would be carton you know,
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things that you could get cigarettes out
of, you know, like getting a
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soda out of a vending machine.
I mean it was insane. But I
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feel like nowadays kids don't smoke cigarettes. They definitely vape, but I think
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the image coolness factor of cigarettes has
kind of waned, and that could be
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like a North thing. I don't
know what it's like down South, actor
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trap, but I feel like even
when I go out to bars every once
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in a while now like like twice
a year, at this point in my
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life, there's not as many people
that go outside to go smoke cigarettes.
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Like, I feel like it's completely
dwindled down from when you and I were
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younger. Yeah, it had.
I mean it's still more prevalent in the
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South. I mean, god knows, when I was traveling it was,
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you know, I was. I
can't say how upset i'd be if I
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got to a hotel and they're like, yeah, the entire hotel is non
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smoking. I'm like, this is
because I gets to know, like marijuana
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smoke permeating doorways as I walk down
the hall. But god forbid, I
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had a cigarette. You know,
in the South, it's not it's still
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it's not cool anymore like East me
when I was a kid, the vape
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thing is more the cool thing for
people to do when they're younger. But
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I was telling you, like before
we started the shows, like it was
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funny because I remember when I was
younger and people would quit smoking and they'd
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smell this, and like, most
smokers can't smell the Cigarett smoke on them.
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You're just numb to that scent.
And I was like, I'll never
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be one of those guys that starts
like gagging or making sounds or something like
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that when I see somebody else smoking. And Sammy and I and the wife
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had gone to a little restaurant yesterday
and we were walking out there's a lady
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out front smoking, and that smoke
hit me and I was like, oh,
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like and I didn't get sick to
it. It was the tobacco smoke
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actually smelled good. But then there's
like a second layer of smoke that hit
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me. I'm like, oh,
yeah, that's that's not good. Okay,
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I'm fine with this Now we're good. I'm content. So I know
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you had commented to me a few
weeks back that I sounded a little bit
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better. I wasn't coughing on air
like I used to, and I'm like
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a lot of it's just because I
had slowly dwindled down. I mean it
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was six months ago, Jeff,
I was two packs a day, and
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now, like I said, I
haven't had a cigarette in seven days.
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But I have gotten this weird cough
the last two days. So if you
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do hear me cough, it's literally
because of whatever pollen allergy thing going on
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is around me. Because I have
been I have put all my extra resources
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into redoing my front yard, so
I've been planting bushes and plants and planting
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grass and redoing everything. So I've
been outside working in the yard NonStop,
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which once again, six months ago, I would have said to your nuts
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if I did that. So if
you hear me cough, it's little just
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because of allergies and not because I
have the crew or as my as my
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kids says tuberculosis. Yeah, I
mean we're definitely due for a Jeff Pack
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allergy episode soon because Paulin is starting
to come down here, So I'm happy
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for you, man, doctor Trey
always obviously putting the health first, and
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you know, hopefully hopefully it stays
this way, my friend, hopefully you
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don't get the urges to go hit
a drag here for old time sake.
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If my stress level, my stress
level has not decreased, and that was
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always my cop out. That's why
I always said I didn't quit. It's
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like, oh, it's a stress
relief. I haven't had a cigaret in
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seven days. My stress level has
actually gone up okay, and haven't had
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the urge. So I'm like,
I think I'm okay so far. Uh.
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My biggest thing is just the U
I have to do something with my
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hands, Like I like my hands
up so used always having a cigarette nearby
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that when I'm driving, I'll be
like tapping the wheel or fidgeting around,
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just trying to keep my hands occupied
more than anything else. So but yeah,
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I appreciate it, and I haven't
been like you didn't think he posted
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on Facebook. This is just a
random conversation. I don't want to be
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those people who's like, hey guys, seven day ay me. I'm not
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that guy. So just something that
was brought up off air, and Jeff
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thought we should bring it to you
guys. So two things. We were
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talking off air, and I was
like, I think either your blood pressure
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goes up or down during this time. The more I think about it,
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I believe it's your cholesterol will go
up a little bit with when you stop
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smoking cigarettes. And then the second
thing, in regards to your hands,
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I would just start grabbing like your
chest, like to start like grabbing your
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chest and just see and to see
what people's reactions are. Oh, that
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was better when I was bigger,
you know, like when you first met
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me and I was running like two
fifty two sixty. I actually had a
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B cup, So hell yeah,
I actually did that at a time.
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But now that I've lost all the
weight too, I'm like, I don't
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really have a chest anymore to play
with, So it's gonna be that I
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start picking my nose in front of
it was just a freaking out. Wait,
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tell us what you think doctor Trey
should do. Hit us up on
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Twitter at SRTU podcast and give us
some suggestions on what he should do with
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his hands. Now getting to some
wrestling discussion here, Doctor Dray. The
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twenty twenty four WE draft was held
this past Friday on SmackDown for Night one,
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Monday on Raw for Night two.
I guess the theme of this was
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and I wish the we did a
better job creatively kind of pumping this up
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to quell the everybody's like confusion.
And then theme overall was that a lot
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of people didn't move, which is
funny because when I did the solo show
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last week, I sat here and
I previewed the w draft and I said,
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I was like, I gotta be
honest, I don't want many wrestlers
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to move at all. Like I
felt like the way that the rosters were
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for Raw and SmackDown were pretty good, and you know, you move a
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little bit of here, you move
a little bit of there to try to
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make it better. But I did
not want these major drastic changes like we've
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seen in the past, where like
Biancle bel Air has gone from Raw to
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SmackDown or seth Ron's gone from SmackDown
to Raw. He always seemed to be
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one of those guys that went from
Raw to SmackDown, SmackDown to Raw instead.
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I think the theme of this draft
for me, Doctor Trey was the
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lack of movement and the wegms and
they us that a little bit on commentary
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keeping their rosters intact. I felt
like that should have been the theme.
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They should have had a segment heading
into this we draft, like a week
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or two before, where all this
and Adam Pierce are saying to one another
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that they're going to do the best
they can and keep the rosters that they
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are because they like the roster so
much, and they're going to be more
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on the defense of rather than trying
to steal wrestler A or wrestler B from
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the opposing general manager's roster. They
see it more fit to protect Drew McIntyre
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on Raw or Jay Usso on Raw, Bianca Belle Aaron SmackDown. I felt
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like that should have been the theme. That was my major takeaway, Doctor
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Trey was the lack of traction from
the w draft, and I wish that
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they kind of pumped that up a
little bit more creatively heading into it.
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Yeah, see a couple things for
me. At For one, I was
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really glad the USA Network and Fox
were not the one remember that year.
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That's like, Oh, USA Network's
drafting for Raw and Fox is drafting for
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SmackDown. I'm like that would be
literally like take a guy out crowd to
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draft, you know, for your
green Bay package. That was when they
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unfortunately got rid of the general managers. Yeah, so I do like that
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went back. One thing I wish
they would add is, you know,
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you and I are NFL fans.
We we read mock drafts, We read
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combine reports and things like that.
If you're going to bring some people up
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from NXT, which I think that
was kind of a foregone collusion, why
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not have a combine, you know, and have these guys show off their
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physical skills. So that would also
relay to people how good these guys are.
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So when they when a Keana James
gets drafted, most of your audience
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isn't going, wait, who who
is that again? Uh? You know,
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so like that that's another way to
hype up your prospects. But I
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was moderately happy that the rosters didn't
change a whole bunch, you know,
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But I like stability. But the
way they and this year also by protecting
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the champions and not letting the champions
get drafted, I like that as well.
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Agreed just a couple of things like
if you want to make it more
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like an NFL or an NBA draft, hey throw a combine in there,
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Throw a scouting report in there,
throw some things in there. If you
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are so convinced that most of your
audience doesn't watch NXT, hey throw some
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scouting in there on those NXT guys
and be like, hey, here's bron
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breaker man. He runs a four
four forty and he's bench presents this and
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you know, you see how athletic
he is, or stuff like that,
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or just some kind of thing to
kind of feed because honestly, I had
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forgotten about Keanu James. And when
you got drafted to row the first time,
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I'm like, it makes no sense, Like I I like this year.
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One thing I did like was the
whole Punk McIntyre. Why it was
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Punk drafted higher than mcintie. I
did like that because there were years that,
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you know, you'd have a guy
get drafted like in the third round,
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and you're like, he's the bottom
of the roster, why is he
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getting picked so high? Like this
year that I felt like they tried to
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put a little more emphasis on that. So so just hold hold the thoughts
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about the NX stuff and the notable
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that. So there were there were
brand changes over under Doctor Trey twenty brand
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changes that you can remember from the
WE draft. I think this year is
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under. It was over really twenty
three brand changes now was a lot about
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the non televised brand changes. There
were some of those supplemental picks that they
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ended up putting on w dot com, which I thought was silly because I
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felt like they do raw talk and
talking smack, which they've They've done that
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in the past, so I thought
that was a little bit strange. They
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should have maybe aired like a YouTube
show afterwards or something that had the supplemental
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picks rather than just the draft continues
over on our YouTube channel. Yeah,
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and they've done that before. They
they've they've done that, which is which
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was strange. So I'm going to
run Do you want me to run through
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these at all? These brand changes? Sure, because it's a good refresher
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course. So there's Carmelo Hayes from
NXC to SmackDown, bron Breaker from SmackDown
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to Raw, which I thought was
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They have written a huge debate of
signing him, Naia Jacks from Raw
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to SmackDown, Seamus from SmackDown to
Raw, Andrade from Raw to SmackDown.
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Keana James from Annixy to Raw,
Alba Fire and Eila Dawn from SmackDown to
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Raw. Baron Corbin from NXC to
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Lwo from SmackDown to Raw, Shinskate
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from nix to Raw, Chelsea Green
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Lyra Valkyria from Nixy to Raw,
Candice Lorraine Indy Hartwell from Raw to SmackDown,
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Final Testament from SmackDown to Raw,
DIY from Raw to SmackDown, Blair
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Davenport from NXC to SmackDown, Apollo
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from Annixy to Raw, Giovanni Vinci
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SmackDown Raw, and finally Tigan Knocks
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brand changes took place during the WE
draft. Doctor Trey, Yeah, and
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I think like the last the last
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those were ones that were non televised, So it's kind of all that's why
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you look at the over under You're
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lot of brand changes, but then
when you look at the numbers, you're
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like, oh, yeah, they
shuffled the mid cart deck, they shuffle
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some stuff around the bottom of the
car. You'll try to give the guys
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some opportunity, but it's just like
none of the real I mean, what
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shins k Maybe the biggest name to
change brands out of this, I think
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Damage Control from SmackDown to Raw.
Yeah, but it's nuts. I don't
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know, and I like them.
We all knew it was gonna happen.
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But I liked the Carmelo Hayes jump
from nxc's SmackDown because they made him a
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big star on night one. Being
in learning with Cody, I thought that
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was an old school w draft tactic
where you've seen in the past, like
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Shelton Benjamin gets drafted over to Raw
and then he wrestles Triple H that first
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night and defeats him and they make
a new star. Like I thought that
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they made Carmelo a star in that
moment. If you're asking the casual fans,
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there's still not a lot of like
not saying not a lot of people,
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but people have heard of Carmelo,
But I think that was a great
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way to showcase Carmelo what he can
do, because that dude's sold his ass
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off in that magic Cody. Good
for him. But yeah, like I
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mean, you know the Drew back
in Tires, the you know, the
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like the Bloodline games. Hold those
hold hold that thought, hold that thought.
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I want to get to that notable
round selections in just a second.
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NXT call ups, So there were
seven of them. We discussed them.
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Carmelo, Hayes, Keana, James, Baron, Corbyn, Ili Dragonoff,
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Lyra, Valkyrier, Blair Davenport,
die Jack. I had predicted on last
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week's show that I thought Blair Davenport
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of the way that she was booked. Did not predict any of the others.
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Which one of those NXT call ups
was like a pleasant surprise for you
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and the most that you're most happy
for die Jack like that for me.
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I love Donna or I love die
Jack. Just a good dude. He
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is gone fell. I mean,
you go back to those that feud he
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had with you know, Keith Lee
and NXT. That was some great stuff
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that got brought up in retribution had
to go to the horrible name of key
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Bone as like T bar, which
I don't know what a T bar is.
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Yeah, he says this is a
horrible name and Agammick and then he
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finally gets a chance to go back
to see reinvent himself come back. We
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like the character. He's has some
great matches in NXT, which his ind
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and ring work was never in question, but now it kind of feels like,
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look, it might take him a
little bit to get going, but
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he's a monster with do that's gonna
put great matches. So he's one of
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those guys that you can put into
a good mid card feud with a Sammy
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Zay or somebody and you're going like, damn, this guy's fantastic. Where's
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he been? So I was really
really happy for that biggest shock that was
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not called up from NXC Roxane Perez
like, and they did this whole thing
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where she announced that she was gonna
be eligible for the draft. So I
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don't know, if you know,
they need to keep her in the brand
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for a little bit, a little
bit longer. I obviously don't think it's
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like skill wise, it's more character
wise. They need her there because she
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really is turning a corner with a
seal character, and I feel like if
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she did leave NXT, it's potential
that she could get lost in the shuffle
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given the new character change with her. But it's like, then, you
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don't do that thing where the women's
champion is announcing it, and then they
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do address it because Ava tells her
that she should have known that the champions
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were protected despite both her and Ilia
and I know he's no longer the NXC
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champion announcing that they would be eligible
for the draft, which was then okay,
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well then somebody should have said,
listen, that's great that you're doing
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that, but you're not because you're
a champion. So I thought that was
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I thought that was strange. But
it appears to me again it's very hard
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to poke holes creatively in WE lately, but I did feel like there were
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some holes with this WE draft,
and it just kind of seems like they
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were trying to figure out what the
rules should be. This did come up
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on them to hold the WE draft, and they developed the rules in like
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the final week and may have creatively
like botched a couple of things, like
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the Ili h the Roxanne Perez announcements, even though Elia got drafted, and
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then, like I said before,
the the GM should have been pumping up
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like, hey, we want to
maintain our rosters, not you know,
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steal from one another type stuff.
But I thought Roxanne Perez was the biggest
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surprise for not being called up from
NXC doctor Trump, And I feel like
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the way they hedged it was they
had a plan for it, and then
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kind of last minutes that maybe because
you remember, she's still only I think
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twenty one years old, twenty two
maybe at the most, Like I mean,
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she was nineteen when she debuted in
the NXC, so you know,
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maybe things were like, hey,
maybe she needs a little bit more time
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here. Hey maybe we could work
on this, or heck, we need
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we need an anchor for this division
because we just had you know, Lyra
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and Kana and Blair go up.
We still need somebody to kind of anchor
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this division. And Bill p well, because just because she didn't get called
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in, that doesn't mean she can't
get moved up in three or four months.
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Let her let her build somebody else
house. So I think they just
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course corrected and then had to figure
out, hey, how do we make
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this change and make it make sense
and they use the whole to me.
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That's then as you know you're talking
about like make the gms try to protect
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their people. That should have been
an AVA thing. We're able when it
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was my mistake, I went to
Bat, I don't want you lead,
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so I made sure you were protected. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like
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they should definitely tie it up there. Yeah, that's they might. I
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say, it's probably those things where
like probably all the way up until Thursday,
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they had planned on moving her,
and then Thursday night they were like,
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no, let's let's leave her an
next for a little longer. Let's
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let her, let's let help her, Let's let her help build up a
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couple more people before we move her
up. I do think that coming out
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of this what I learned under this
new regime of Triple H, I do
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feel like the wa draft concept needs
to be tankered with a little bit.
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I think the first thing that I
would immediately change, and I toyed with
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the idea preparing for the show here, that it should just be strictly NXT
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based. It should be like just
NXC call ups coming to the main roster.
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Because I got to say, my
favorite thing the entire two nights of
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the draft was when someone was called
up from NXT, seeing them all at
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the performance center, seeing the fans
in the stand and seeing like the genuine
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reaction from the wrestlers themselves who had
no idea and the roster who had no
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idea. Just to see that camaraderie
and happiness from the other wrestlers breaking kfabe
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to celebrate with Keana, James,
Lyra, Valkyria, Blair Davenport, whomever
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that was getting the call up was
really genuine and cool and a really fun,
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natural, organic moment. I was
like, they got to do more
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of this, and it's like,
if the concept is is to keep the
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roster, then maybe the concept needs
to change a little bit where instead of
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two nights, it's just one night
and it's just solely focused on NXT.
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Because I thought those genuine, sincere, organic reactions made the draft. Made
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the draft. Those were the best
moments of them all. Those were my
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favorite moments, was those genuine reactions. Doctor Trey, Yeah, that goes
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back. They did that a couple
of years ago as well. I can't
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remember who it was that was getting
called up. I remember like seeing that
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emotion. It was Alexa Bless.
I remember one. Yeah, it was
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like, oh wow, that's really
really cool to me. How I would
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fix it is all of your stars
are brand exclusive. The night o the
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draft, the gms can trade players, so you can have if you want
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to switch brand, Hey we're going
to trade Shinske and d I Y to
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smack down for this person and you
know this other and other tag team or
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whatever. And then that's how the
trades happened. That's how you can make
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people move from brand to brand.
And then you have, you know,
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eight draft picks and you they're all
NXT exclusive, and hell you might be
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like, hey we trade as Shin's
Kate to SmackDown for their fourth round selection,
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you know, just like the NFL
draft. So that way to play.
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The wrestlers can still move by gms
trading them. Because this whole concept,
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I've never liked how they slot people
and hey, we're gonna because like
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you said, this year is about
protecting you, keeping your roster safe.
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Years past, it's been like we're
gonna try and snipe this guy. Uh.
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It just it felt it never felt
like an actual draft. I agree,
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So let's make it be like,
hey, you know the NBA draft
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that's when players get traded and moved
around, and then we're just going to
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draft from an XT and then that
way you can do those combined numbers.
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You can make it look like player
profiles and things like that and build up
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interest in some of the people that
you may think your audience needs to know
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about before they make that debut.
I agree because the concept of a draft,
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as we all know as sports fans, right you're like, it's not
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like with the MLBA Draft, the
Cubs can steal Aaron Judge from the Yankees
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and the Yankees can steal Show the
Umina from the Chicago Cubs. Like that's
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not happening. It's it's people who
are looking to get signed. So I
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think it should definitely be a little
bit more NXD base. It's funny that
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you keep talking about this combine idea, which I love, because they're doing
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the concept to have the female wrestlers
qualify for a tournament for the women's North
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American Championship in NXT, So it's
like, that's kind of funny that they're
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doing that concept. But I think
it should be more NXD base because those
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reactions are very genuine. Do what
you're saying make it more of the trades
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for the rosters that are currently there, and that can make it a lot
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more fun. Like I think that, and they you call it like a
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draft and like a trading deadline,
right like they have that in sports.
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Or you can do like in college
and called the transfer portal and guys jump
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and jump into the portal and you
can literally be like I like that idea.
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You can learn say hey, you
know, take twenty guys and say
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hey, shins k nakamuraz into the
transfer portal and then as those guys compete
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to keep it if you want to
make it, if you still want to
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make it a two night thing,
there's ways of doing it to tie it
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into draft fanaticism. Because what they're
doing right now, Jeff, for lack
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of a better thing, is a
fancy draft. Yeah, and it's like
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it's great, but we need,
you know, for people like you and
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I who do fancy draft, we
need statistics, We need reasons why why
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are you drafting? Drew McIntyre number
one, And dear God, we don't
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want to go into the aw wins
and losses things because that will drave people
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nuds. But if you're gonna make
it much more like the NFL Draft,
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which what I mean, going off
the ratings and the attendance is what they're
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trying to do. Make us straight
up draft, draft your prospects, trade
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some players around and do it like
that. And to that point, notable
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round selections, and we always bitch
and complain about this because it truly does
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not make any sense. Yeah,
number one. So the first one I
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have is Bianca Belair going number one
overall for some Jay Usa going number one
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overall for Raw on night one.
The Bloodline were selected in round three on
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Night one. Aj Styles, who
is set to face Cody Rhodes this Saturday
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at ww Backlash. Number one contender
was selected in the fourth round on Night
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one. Imperium Gunther and Ludwig Kaiser
went number one overall for Raw. Jade
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Cargill, who has never wrestled a
singles match, went number one for SmackDown
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on Night two. Drew McIntyre,
which they did play in the storyline,
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and Doctor Trey mentioned earlier in the
show, was selected in round three on
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night two, and then the Judgment
Day was selected in round four on night
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two. Hence, yet their their
tagline is that they run Monday Night Raw.
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I mean the notable. The round
selections have never made sense for the
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Dead Wee Draft Doctor Trey because they
just don't correlate most of the time for
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how they are booking the show.
Like again, aj Styles is your number
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one contender, but he goes round
four on Night one like that makes no
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sense to me. Judgment Day going
round Fournite two again, that makes no
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sense to me. That's why I
just really think they need to come back
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a year from now when they do
this again, transfer portal, trade deadline,
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just the WAE Draft for NXC talent. They got to revamp this process
416
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because I just think it's it's a
little too flawed. From my sports sports
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fandom, mine wasn't the first.
The first draft wasn't like Chris Jericho,
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and I think at the time he
was he was in a few with Triple
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Agent. He was either the champion
or was fighting. Was like a supplemental
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pick that wasn't shown on air.
You're talking about the two thousand and two
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draft, the very first one.
Yeah, I think it was like way
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back when he was he went like
the twenty seventh, the twenty seventh pick,
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and it might have been the night
he lost lost the title on Raw.
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That was so that draft I believe
happened after Wrestlemany eighteen, so he
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would have dropped the title at that
point. Yeah. So, but you
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may be right here. I'm going
to quickly scroll while you're talking. So
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the two thousand and two the very
stubby we draft. But there were I
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mean, there's been years that you
and I were saying here going, how
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is like a like and I don't
mean a knock Apollo cruise, I mean,
430
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but there's times Apollo has been like
a fifth round draft pick and then
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you know a guy who's in the
main event for like a Samy's saying,
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would be like a ninth round draft
pick or Kevin Owens. I think Kevin
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Owens was like ninth or tenth round, like it was towards the end of
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the draft last year. You know
what I'm like, how how are these
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guys who everybody knows are bigger stars, better merchandise movers getting drafted in rounds
436
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later than Apollo or you know,
Dominic when he was still relatively new and
437
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:41.960
things like that, Like it's the
way the rounds were set up never made
438
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sense. And you know, it's
like, okay, well, you know
439
00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:47.720
Bianca going first overall is great,
but then, like you mentioned Jade Carter
440
00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:51.920
going first, it's like she's never
been in a match. You're basically drafting
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off potential here, but you know
you could have saved somebody else that you
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know has wrestled matches and had he's
been champions. Like, It's just yeah,
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the concept is always flawed to be. Like, now, if they
444
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came out with like WW fantasy rankings
like you and I look at before we
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draft for our SRTU football leagues,
and these people are ranked higher, then
446
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that can also tie in his storylines, and then it makes sense as to
447
00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:23.119
why this person's drafted high and this
other person that we don't think is a
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00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:29.200
better wrestlers drafted lower. Really good
memory, Doctor Trey so Jericho fought Triple
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h the night of the WWE draft. He lost, and then was selected
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onto the SmackDown brand because the Undisputed
Champion could not change brands. He ended
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up going to SmackDown with Where did
I just see it? It was like
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the thirteenth pick or something. Yeah, and it was like supplemental not seen
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on TV. You had to find
out about it on SmackDown later on.
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Yeah, okay, so he went
twenty fifth overall. It was a supplemental
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pick. He went after Stephen Richards
who was selected to Raw to Jerry,
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00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:08.559
Bradshaw and Billy Kidman were all selected
after Jericho. But you know, it's
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00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:12.160
like, oh crap, Jericho's available. Would he not be your first pick
458
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of the supplemental draft? Like I
said, it was the main event the
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shows going out the air, but
the very first pick of the supple metal
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draft should be the guy who is
just twenty minutes earlier champion, and it
461
00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:27.920
was to Jerry or Bradshaw. Yeah, that could have been the old regime
462
00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:33.880
of WUE aka Vince McMahon fucking with
Chris Jericho. So yeah, yeah,
463
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:38.359
no, it upset Jericho so bad
he put it in his book. Yeah
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00:31:38.400 --> 00:31:41.599
wow, I've read all those books. I forget that now. Yeah.
465
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I mean, it's just the draft
selections don't make sense. I would highly
466
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recommend that they reconsidered the concept.
They'd make it more NXT focus, and
467
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that is when they allow it's like
the two nights a year that they allow
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trades, transfer, portal whatever,
you know, player around with a little
469
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:05.119
bit with like the sports fandom in
the world where Drew McIntyre, which we
470
00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:08.480
will talk about his new contract with
WE, but he is signed to RAW
471
00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:14.000
for two years and he cannot be
traded or he has a no trade clause
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00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:17.319
like they have an MLB or what
have you. Like, they can definitely
473
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make it better and I think what
I learned from this draft is for the
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first time you know in this new
regime that there's an opportunity to make it
475
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better, and I think they need
to do a little bit more sports fandom.
476
00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:30.319
I think with the old regime it
was always going to be this way
477
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:35.039
and there was going to be no
creativity. I think there is creativity that
478
00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:37.839
can be had with this current creative
team in WWE to make it a lot
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better. So there you go.
The twenty twenty fourt w WE draft is
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in the books. The big news
here Doctor Trey. Despite going in round
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number three on Night two to Monday
Night Raw. In real life, Drew
482
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McIntyre signed a massive deal with World
rest Entertainment re signed with them. He
483
00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:04.880
will be back, reportedly for another
three years for a significant amount of money.
484
00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:07.680
The news was broken by the Rock
of All People, who posted a
485
00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:14.599
video of Drew McIntyre receiving a sword
a gift from the Rock Board of Directors
486
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:21.079
out to dinner with Nick Cohn.
I love the move. I'm happy this
487
00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:23.880
has happened. I think Drew McIntyre, since he's been a little bit of
488
00:33:23.880 --> 00:33:30.359
a tweeter, which would be around
about September time, has been maybe the
489
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:35.880
most entertaining wrestler on Worldwist Entertainment television
during that time frame. The character has
490
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:37.920
been really good. You don't know
if he's a heel, you don't know
491
00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:39.759
if he's a baby face. He
comes down to the ring, he slaps
492
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:44.640
hands, kisses babies, but gets
on the microphone and rips the fans.
493
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:49.279
He's fantastic. I mean, we
have loved Drew McIntyre since he returned back
494
00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:53.160
to Dowe Wie and even before that
when he was working the ND scene always
495
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:58.440
had high opes from him. Despite
the three and B stuff that Drew McIntyre
496
00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:00.279
career has really been covered this entire
time. I'm a BESTRTU, but he
497
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:05.400
is. He's been phenomenal. I'm
very very happy for him. I love
498
00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:07.840
that he's saying with w W.
Your thoughts on the signing for both W
499
00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:12.360
and True. McIntyre you know,
the crazy thing is there. And I
500
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:14.159
don't know if you've gone through this, but I've gone through this. When
501
00:34:14.199 --> 00:34:17.480
you know you're coming up on either
at the end of your contractor you feel
502
00:34:17.480 --> 00:34:22.440
like, hey, maybe it's about
time for me to change roles, you
503
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:25.840
kind of go into like the zero
f's given mode. And it's usually when
504
00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:30.119
you do your best work. You
usually go screw it, I'm gonna go
505
00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:32.719
out here. I'm gonna do my
thing. If it lines up, great,
506
00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:37.519
If not, I'm out the door
anyway. Or there's other offers out
507
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:39.159
there for me anyway, and you
do your best work. And I feel
508
00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:45.119
like, since this contract's been lingering
now for about six months, six eight
509
00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:47.480
months, Drew's done his best work
in WW. I think the work he's
510
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:52.039
done since September is even better than
the work he was doing during the pandemic
511
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:59.719
time, which means it's given his
character way more depth. He seems like
512
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:05.159
he is just having a ball and
had doesn't give a crap, you know,
513
00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:08.559
And it's like that's usually when characters
are their most refreshing. Is just
514
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:14.519
like you feel like this is almost
the real Drew McIntyre we're seeing on TV
515
00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:17.039
right now. Yeah, he has
an edge and he's you know, he'll
516
00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:21.039
be mean to the crowd at times
as well. But this kind of feels
517
00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:25.960
like the first time in what the
fifteen year run of Drew McIntyre and WW
518
00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:30.320
that we're actually seeing Drew McIntyre the
person and I'm here for and I'm really
519
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:35.760
happy he resigned. He just never
felt like a guy that would I mean,
520
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:37.880
honestly, if he went to AW
he would do fine. It just
521
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:44.000
feels like that he would be just
kind of meth after a while, or
522
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:47.280
at least here, I feel like
he's really tapped into something and he's shining
523
00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:51.360
really brightly right now, which you
know, we talked about NFL, we
524
00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:53.719
talked about others right here. That
was his contract year and he was an
525
00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:58.280
all pro leading into his contract being
redone, so he got handsomely rewarded for
526
00:35:58.360 --> 00:36:00.239
it. So this blends into kind
of what you just said their Doctor Trey
527
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:06.079
about Drew McIntyre and AW what have
you him signing with WWE. Wrestling Observer
528
00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:10.639
Newsletter had posted last week before the
announcement was made that Drew McIntyre had resigned
529
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:15.199
with w W. They had said
those in w expect drum McIntyre's resigned with
530
00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:20.719
w SCENE is enough of a given
he's being advertised on shows post contract expiration.
531
00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:24.119
The feeling was that while he had
talked of taking off taking time off
532
00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:29.199
if not creatively fulfilled, that he
is very much. He very much is
533
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:31.159
now and is seen as one of
the company's top full time wrestlers with the
534
00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:36.679
Rhodes and Rollins. This is the
point I want to discuss now as we
535
00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:40.920
blend from onnceroy to another. They
wrote, there is also the belief WWE
536
00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:47.199
talent is less likely now to opt
for AW. I thought that was telling,
537
00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:57.480
but I also found it not surprising
because the way wrestlers are handled in
538
00:36:57.599 --> 00:37:02.199
AEW when they first joined and it
is pomp, its circumstance, it's fireworks,
539
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:07.519
and then maybe four to eight to
twelve weeks later, the fire,
540
00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:13.159
the heat, the excitement has completely
fizzled off. And this is coming from
541
00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:17.599
a guy who's an AAW fan,
But you cannot discredit that. Adam Copeland
542
00:37:17.679 --> 00:37:22.920
joins the company at Wrestle Dream with
a surprise all EAT wrestling people are excited,
543
00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:28.239
and within four to eight weeks completely
fizzled off. Now, granted he
544
00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:31.159
had a great match with Buddy Matthews
on Dynamite on Wednesday night. I loved
545
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:36.800
it. He's been very solid.
But Adam Copeland, and he may disagree
546
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:38.599
with me, it's his career and
he knows much more about professional wrestling than
547
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:44.000
I do, obviously, but as
a fan, I don't believe Adam Copeland
548
00:37:44.039 --> 00:37:49.199
should be toying around in the mid
card upper mid cards once he joins AAW.
549
00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:55.280
Mercedes Monette and I know she's injured, but she joins big business.
550
00:37:55.280 --> 00:38:00.719
They make a big show about it, and I feel like she's completely ice
551
00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:04.320
cold. And you mentioned earlier on
in the show about AW and the ranking
552
00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:07.159
systems, the ranking systems was back, but now I completely feel like it's
553
00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:13.000
gone because Christian Cage was just randomly
announced number one contender with Swarp Scott and
554
00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:15.119
Mercedes Monet who said she was going
to face the winner of the TBS Championship
555
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:20.400
match at Dynasty without ever wrestling a
match, So she just leapfrogged everybody else
556
00:38:20.440 --> 00:38:22.840
in the ranking system. So I
guess it's gone, And you know,
557
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:25.599
I just feel like time and time
again, j White is an example that
558
00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:30.559
has brought up of who's who's been
hit or miss or ice cold and I
559
00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:34.800
love j Whye. I don't think
he should be toying around with the trios.
560
00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:40.400
You know landscape as well. This
is a surprise, but that it's
561
00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:44.480
in writing, but not a surprise. If you're a fan that watches the
562
00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:49.760
show, your thoughts here, Doctor
Trey of W stars now less likely to
563
00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:53.360
opt for AAW and what is the
reason behind that? Is it the creative
564
00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:58.519
and all elite wrestling with Tony Kahan
or is it how well they're doing with
565
00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:04.880
the creative undert I think a big
part of it is. So you look
566
00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:09.360
at the WW roster, most of
the people that we see feature, most
567
00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:16.239
of them, not all, spent
some time in NXT and under the Triple
568
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:22.559
H regime. You already know how
Triple H is going to treat you.
569
00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:25.719
You already have faith in what he's
going to do. You already know his
570
00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:32.920
temperament. AW for a lot of
the guys is an unknown and all you
571
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:39.239
hear are stories, innuendos, things
that people have said. You know,
572
00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:44.360
there's a few people from AAW have
made their way over into WW. Not
573
00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:46.800
just the Cod's of the world or
the Jade, but the Lexus Kings of
574
00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:52.039
the world. You kind of know
what to expect if you make the move,
575
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:54.559
and AW has a track record,
like you and I have talked about
576
00:39:54.599 --> 00:40:00.159
the show, you go back to
Brian Danielson starts off red hot, some
577
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:06.360
great matches. Where's he at now? It's kind of like nobody has really
578
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:12.880
gotten better than they were when they
came in. So if I'm going to
579
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:16.480
make that jump, it's gonna come
down to do I want creative license and
580
00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:21.239
feel fulfilled or do I want ease
and comfort? And it goes back to
581
00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:23.679
you know, the will Ospray conversation
we had a few weeks ago about the
582
00:40:23.679 --> 00:40:30.159
comments with Triple H. There is
a little bit of the grind and maximizing
583
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:34.599
your potential versions where I AW,
I do kind of feel like guys get
584
00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:37.400
comfortable there and a little bit not
lack a days ago because the matches are
585
00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:43.639
still fantastic. But outside of the
guys who are hungry for the top spot,
586
00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:46.039
that's war of strict One's the MJFS. Is anybody really pushing the creative
587
00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:50.639
envelope in AW right now? Like
I don't. I don't see anything that's
588
00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:55.280
like breakthrough TV or must see TV. Do you know what I think is
589
00:40:55.320 --> 00:41:00.760
the best creative thing in AW right
now, what's that Trump Bretta and Cacasidy.
590
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:04.559
It feels real. I mean they've
done a great job with that one.
591
00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:09.239
But like the Jericho Learning Tree,
like it's like I'm starting to come
592
00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:15.280
around on that. It's it's but
it took him turning kind of heel again
593
00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:20.199
for it to kind of work.
You know. It's just that's that there's
594
00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:24.559
less in a sense, there's less
creative stability in AW where I think there's
595
00:41:24.679 --> 00:41:29.280
more. You have more faith in
the creative in WWE right now. And
596
00:41:29.320 --> 00:41:32.480
if I was a wrestler trying to, you know, do what do I
597
00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:36.719
want out of my career? It
kind of depends. If I'm a younger
598
00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:39.039
guy, I'm probably gonna go to
WE because they're gonna find something for me
599
00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:43.920
to do. Where AW, You're
probably you might get lost in the show
600
00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:45.599
for a little while. If I'm
an older wrestler and I know I'm nearing
601
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:51.199
the you're nearing the end and I
don't feel like I've accomplished or I feel
602
00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:54.199
like I've accomplished everything I could accomplish
in WWE. Yeah, AW makes a
603
00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:59.119
ton of sense. You can kind
of rest on your coast, on your
604
00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:04.199
accolades and get a good paycheck and
after wrestler is hard. Yeah, no,
605
00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:07.519
I mean it's it's very funny how
things have changed. And I think
606
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:10.360
when we go back through the history
of our show here, when like AW
607
00:42:10.519 --> 00:42:15.000
launched and we were banging the drum
of like Triple H needs to come in,
608
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:17.599
people are going to leave the company. It's a lighter schedule, more
609
00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:22.639
money, and you could be more
creatively fulfilled. And it took them some
610
00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:25.760
time, and it eventually through other
channels, got to Triple AH to running
611
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:31.360
the show, and you're seeing that
payoff extremely well. I mean, just
612
00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:37.440
create creatively. It seems like there's
more creative freedom now in w than there
613
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:42.559
wasn't AW, which is mind boggling. AW has really good, a really
614
00:42:42.559 --> 00:42:46.039
good in ring product. But I
watched Dynamite the other night and I just
615
00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:51.000
thought I was like terribly bored for
the most part. Like it you watched
616
00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:53.920
Raw for three hours, that doesn't
feel like three hours. SmackDown for two
617
00:42:53.960 --> 00:42:58.840
hours is really good. NXY as
its hits or misses still, but they're
618
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doing a good job. It's just
AW is getting boring to me. They
619
00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:07.440
need a little bit of a creative
shakeup. And I just thought it was
620
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it was interesting to see this play
out like the way that it was.
621
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We're saying that w stars are now
less likely to opt out, and there's
622
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some major names that are going to
be available. I think Finn Balor confirmed
623
00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:23.559
he resigned, Drew McIntyre is now
confirmed resigned. Rollins and Becky Lynch their
624
00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:28.639
contract's supposed to be coming up.
I can't see them leaving. I think
625
00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:32.000
Kevin Owens contract maybe up where he
may have signed an extension a couple of
626
00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:37.639
years ago. Yeah, it's just
funny how the ties have changed. And
627
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:42.760
I can't blame the wrestlers because it's
playing out to me as if you were
628
00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:45.679
at home being like, yeah,
I could understand why Star would want to
629
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:50.800
go to AW, but now I
totally understand why w Starr would not want
630
00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:55.000
to go to AAW. I just
think there's a crowded roster and every time
631
00:43:55.079 --> 00:44:00.119
you see a big name join,
there is a lot of and circumstance and
632
00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:04.320
excitement and then it kind of fizzles
out. I think some people may say
633
00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:08.079
that Will Osprey could be dealing with
that soon with the International Championship match,
634
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:13.079
and even though if he wins creatively, he may fizzle out a little bit
635
00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:15.119
and he may be one of the
hottest stars in the company. You know,
636
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:17.920
this were of strickling stuff. They
waited a little bit too long before
637
00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:22.440
they finally executed, even though I
feel like they kind of booked themselves in
638
00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:27.800
a corner, so it's not necessarily
their fault in that instance. Nonetheless,
639
00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:30.760
interesting, I don't have this down
on the rundown here, doctor Trey,
640
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:34.840
but I guess this is a good
opportunity to talk about it. You had
641
00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:37.519
the big Dynamite angle where the Elite
took out the new Elite took out Tony
642
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:43.960
Kahn on Wednesday's Dynamite. They followed
it up on Wednesdays this past Wednesdays Dynamite
643
00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:49.039
by taking out Kenny Omega, cutting
the feed, running the intro. What
644
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:52.360
was your thought on the follow up? And obviously we'd get an opportunity to
645
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:54.679
talk to you on last week's show. What are your thoughts on the long
646
00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:59.679
term of this angle, because there
are obviously people out there that think that
647
00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:04.119
this be the rejuvenation of the product, comparing it to the nWo from the
648
00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:08.280
aw standpoint, What did you think
of everything so far? I don't hate
649
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:12.960
it. I will say, you
know, if you go back to when
650
00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:16.480
they played the video from you know, all from all out hated that.
651
00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:22.199
But one thing we said was if
it can lead into something that's compelling,
652
00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:28.440
hey, that's great. The stuff
with Jack Perry and Tony Kahan, like,
653
00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:30.400
for what it was, I thought, I mean, it was obviously
654
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:35.360
to me, I think the worst
sell of Like it's almost as bad as
655
00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:39.760
when Vince took the first stunner,
but selling wise horrible. I did love
656
00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:44.039
that Tony Cohn wore the neck break
through the NFL draft. I love that
657
00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:49.079
that was great. He sold it
the entire time. The stuff with Kenny
658
00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:54.280
Omega you know this week I thought
was really good. Is it nwoesque?
659
00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:58.960
It's in the ballpark. But the
problem is is that anytime you try to
660
00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:00.599
do something similar that everyody's gonna shit
on it and go, oh, you're
661
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:06.119
just ripping off the nWo. Everything's
a rip off nowadays. So I don't
662
00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:09.960
hate it. It is kind of
reinvigorating the Bucks. I like the Bucks
663
00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:14.280
new characters. I think it's really
funny and I love that they're just kind
664
00:46:14.280 --> 00:46:17.440
of leaning into what people like me
were saying. Well, they're EVPs they're
665
00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:22.840
gonna get their way. They're leaning
into it. I like that the stuff
666
00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:24.719
with Jack Perry. I like,
I'm not a huge Jack Perry famb but
667
00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:29.159
I like that they're bleeding into it. Having Ocada in the group gives them
668
00:46:29.199 --> 00:46:32.719
some credibility because otherwise, without Okada, you'd have three guys that weigh one
669
00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:37.880
hundred and eighty pounds or less trying
to run the company like that would kind
670
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:42.239
of you know, realistically, I
would kind of hate that. But it's
671
00:46:42.519 --> 00:46:45.239
very funny you just said that Dutch
tray. Because I hate to say this
672
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:47.679
because obviously all those guys could beat
me up. And I say this all
673
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:52.119
the time about Jack Perry, but
I find nothing intimidating about Jack Perry.
674
00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:54.920
And I thought, now with what
we're seeing that video of him being like
675
00:46:55.280 --> 00:47:00.920
owned by cmpunk, the all out
backstage footage, does not make me think
676
00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:02.920
he's some sort of bad ass.
No, but it makes me think they
677
00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:07.199
they you know, the way the
character being, they're not. They're not
678
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:10.599
being portrayed as badasses like Holland Nash
was when they came in. Yeah,
679
00:47:10.760 --> 00:47:15.840
when Hallan Nash held off the entire
w CW lockerom at one point by themselves.
680
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:22.039
They were portrayed as bad asses.
They're slimy, sleazy scumboutis and I
681
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:27.599
think they're leaning into that really well. And having Okada in the group gives
682
00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:30.119
them a little bit of physical,
you know, physical presence. I think
683
00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:35.119
they need one more big guy in
the group. You throw a Keith Lee
684
00:47:35.159 --> 00:47:38.480
into that group and let him have
his like crappy mustache and beard, Like
685
00:47:38.599 --> 00:47:42.599
I'm good with that. Like have
them look like Uncle Philigin, like there's
686
00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:46.079
your physical presence in the group,
or a ward Blow or somebody like that,
687
00:47:46.320 --> 00:47:50.360
if you could, you know,
make that move somebody of that ilk
688
00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:54.639
to give that little physical presence,
because I like, they're not trying to
689
00:47:54.800 --> 00:48:00.679
overpower people one on one. It
is you know, slimy, sleazy,
690
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:05.440
dirty tactics in that part. I
dig because that fits their character and their
691
00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:10.320
size. Yeah, yeah, it's
it's interesting. It's an interesting Uh.
692
00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:14.559
They're trying and they gotta get something
to the yard. I just felt like
693
00:48:14.599 --> 00:48:17.800
I wish I saw a little bit
more on Wednesday's Dynamite that kept further this
694
00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:22.119
along. Go Okay, this is
pretty cool. We're in a real good
695
00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:24.159
direction. But I think it was
kind of a baby step instead of a
696
00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:30.159
big step coming out of the Big
Angle on Wednesday's Dynamite and then finally here
697
00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:35.239
before we get to backlash doctor Trey
uh the report from Wrestling Observer newsletter,
698
00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:38.239
there's a chance of The Rock doing
a match late this year, but the
699
00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:44.440
Cody Rhoads match was tentatively for Wrestmating
forty one. Whether Roads is champion or
700
00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:47.920
not, is this the direction you
want to see for The Rock, the
701
00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:57.280
Rock versus Cody Rhoads word for Cody
Roads at Wrestlmating forty one, it feels
702
00:48:57.320 --> 00:49:02.239
like Roman's going baby face. To
me, it depends on can somebody else
703
00:49:02.360 --> 00:49:07.679
get hot as a heel? You
know, Like that's if you're like,
704
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:10.400
hey, worst case scenario Cody and
the Rock WrestleMania forty one. Hey,
705
00:49:10.639 --> 00:49:13.920
if that's the worst case scenario for
your main event, it's not a bad
706
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:17.400
worst case scenario. But we've seen
it before with other wrestlers. They get
707
00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:23.960
hot, plans change to capitalize on
that. I think if if we talked
708
00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:28.960
about a coup weeks ago, if
you end up doing like Roman and the
709
00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:32.559
original blood Line against Rock and the
New blood Line, that's a good angle
710
00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:37.639
to run. But right now once
again with Roman being out and kind of
711
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:42.000
reshuffling the deck, and now you
have you know, Damian Priest is the
712
00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:45.880
top heel on raw Well, who's
the top heel on SmackDown? Is it
713
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:49.960
Solo? Is it aj or do
you need another heel to get hot?
714
00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:54.760
And I thought Gunther would have been
a great move to go to SmackDown because
715
00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:58.400
then Cody and Gunther on the same
brand. But they didn't make that move.
716
00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:01.840
So it's gonna be interesting see who
they positioned to be the long term
717
00:50:01.960 --> 00:50:07.360
rival for Cody, because right now, between now and next April, right
718
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:10.119
now, it's the Rock and they
haven't built up anybody else to take that
719
00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:16.280
next level. Yeah, it's I
like the direction and it will be interesting
720
00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:19.960
how this all plays out, because
I think it makes the most sense right
721
00:50:19.960 --> 00:50:22.119
now. But I was intrigued to
see that they're gonna go Cody Rock for
722
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:27.039
wrestlemaning forty one right now, no
matter if he's champion or not, which
723
00:50:27.079 --> 00:50:30.360
is kind of peculiar, or the
saying if he's champion or not. I
724
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:35.199
made a case on last Week'spot Doctor
Trey that I felt like Gunther should be
725
00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:38.400
moved to SmackDown feud with Cody,
and I could see him winning the title
726
00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:43.719
at the Bash and Berlin show when
he's a little bit more closer to home
727
00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:47.199
they're near Austria, but it seems
like that is not the case that they're
728
00:50:47.199 --> 00:50:52.000
going to be heading towards. I
feel like Cody versus Gunther would be a
729
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:54.639
great WrestleMania match, but I guess
maybe that still happens if he should win
730
00:50:55.280 --> 00:51:00.400
the Royal Rumble later this or early
next year. Yeah, I mean,
731
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:02.360
and you know, you could always
I mean, there's a guy who's not
732
00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:07.519
in the company right now who was
blacklisted for a little while that he's always
733
00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:09.639
known to pop up by the name
of Brock Lesner. You can always revisit
734
00:51:09.719 --> 00:51:15.559
Cody and Brock again at that point. So it's just right now, they're
735
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:21.119
trying to build up some new stars
to fill the boys left by some guys
736
00:51:21.119 --> 00:51:23.880
who are out with injury or taking
time off or something like that. And
737
00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:29.360
that was part of the issue with
when you have a champion like Roman dominate
738
00:51:29.559 --> 00:51:34.159
for three years, is it's kind
of hard to build death because we've seen
739
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:38.840
Roman beat everybody. Well, now
Cody's beat Roman, but everybody else around
740
00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:44.800
has been beaten by Roman. So
who has the credibility to step up other
741
00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:47.119
than a gunther right now? And
that's not the rather take. I mean,
742
00:51:47.119 --> 00:51:51.199
how many times do we see AJ
lose to Roman and now we just
743
00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:52.960
puse on paper, go oh,
well HEJKB Cody, Well, Cody beat
744
00:51:53.000 --> 00:51:57.119
Roman, Roman beat AJ. So
where do you go from there? So
745
00:51:57.599 --> 00:52:00.280
they have a little bit of depth
issue on the heel side on SmackDown right
746
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:04.159
now? All right? Then,
finally here, doctor Trey, let's preview
747
00:52:04.159 --> 00:52:07.840
and predicta wa backlash. It comes
to us this Saturday from the LDLC Arena
748
00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:13.679
in Leone, France. It will
be taking place one pm East ten am
749
00:52:13.719 --> 00:52:15.920
on the Pacific here in the United
States, so it'll be an early show
750
00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:20.280
for anybody who wants to catch it
on a May afternoon. I don't know
751
00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:23.440
whether it's been pretty damn awesome lately
where I live. Maybe I'll catch it
752
00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:27.559
at night or maybe I'll catch it
on Sunday. With that said, let's
753
00:52:27.559 --> 00:52:30.480
go through the card here, Doctor
Trey. Randy warton Kevin Owens taking on
754
00:52:30.519 --> 00:52:32.599
the Bloodline and a tag team match. I have the Bloodline winning this one.
755
00:52:32.920 --> 00:52:36.880
I have Bloodline also, and I'm
still trying to figure what MFT stands
756
00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:39.760
for. You know, people are
saying my family tree, but it's like
757
00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:45.440
that that would be lame missl my
favorite Tonguan. I like that one.
758
00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:47.960
Yeah, they gotta tell us.
I mean it's gotta be MF right,
759
00:52:50.199 --> 00:52:54.039
m F and Tauma Yeah, MF
and Tunga. This is my mother f
760
00:52:54.119 --> 00:52:59.239
and tauma. Yeah, I don't
know. Strange. The Warriors defend the
761
00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:01.960
WA wins to Team championship against Bianca
bell Aaron, Jade Cargill, Doctor Trey.
762
00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:06.280
Who do you liking this one?
I'm taking Bianca and Jay because they
763
00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:09.039
were number one overall draft picks for
their brands on respective nights, so you
764
00:53:09.079 --> 00:53:13.559
can't have number one picks losing to
you know, round three, round four
765
00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:16.239
people. Yeah, I got Bianca
and Jade winning this one as well.
766
00:53:16.679 --> 00:53:22.559
Bailey defends the WA Women's Championship in
a triple threat match against Naomi and Tiffany
767
00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:25.039
Stratton. I am tempted to pick
Tiffany Stratton here, dotch Trey. I
768
00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:29.840
think she is due to get a
potential title run, but I could see
769
00:53:29.840 --> 00:53:32.480
her taking the l and then maybe
becoming the winning the Bank winner in just
770
00:53:32.519 --> 00:53:36.960
a couple of months. So I
have Bailey retaining. Yeah, I have
771
00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:39.000
Bailey Rotaye, but I'm like with
you, I kind of picture Tiffy strad
772
00:53:39.000 --> 00:53:43.000
winning one of the bank and then
Tiffy time as anytime she wants to catch.
773
00:53:43.039 --> 00:53:45.239
It makes a lot of sense.
Damian Priest defends the World of aweight
774
00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:50.000
Championship against jay Uso dtor Tre.
Who do you liking this one? Uh?
775
00:53:50.519 --> 00:53:52.719
Once again, like when you have
brand new champions, it's hard to
776
00:53:52.760 --> 00:53:55.239
take somebody to beat the brand new
champion as much as as much fun and
777
00:53:55.360 --> 00:53:59.400
energy as Jay Juso has, I'm
still taking Dabian Priests to retain. I
778
00:53:59.440 --> 00:54:01.960
have Damienes as well for nearly the
same exact reason, which that takes me
779
00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:06.119
to my next match. Cody Roads
defending against aj Styles for the n disputed
780
00:54:06.119 --> 00:54:09.440
at W Championship. I cannot see
Cody Roads dropping the title, so I'm
781
00:54:09.480 --> 00:54:14.440
gonna take Cody to retain. I'm
taking Cody as well, with maybe maybe
782
00:54:14.480 --> 00:54:16.039
a little bit of well you,
Cody bay Pace. You can't really have
783
00:54:16.159 --> 00:54:20.119
outside interfairs, but I could still
see La Night getting into the picture as
784
00:54:20.119 --> 00:54:22.400
well. You might get a triple
threat batch here next month for the next
785
00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:28.000
paper the next pl So there you
go, wa Backlash preview and predictions.
786
00:54:28.039 --> 00:54:31.199
We will recap and interview at all
on next week's edition pod. With that
787
00:54:31.199 --> 00:54:35.199
said, let's get a couple couple
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788
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Pack. This is the Star Real
US Show.
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It's welcome everybody. Welcome to.
This week's edition is Storrealda Show episode number
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seven and forty two for May two, twenty twenty four. This is your
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WWE Backlash, Preview and Predictions edition
of s R Team You. I am
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one after the show, I am
Jeff Peck joined every single week from my
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host on only doctor Trey Franklin,
Doctor Trey, welcome back, my friend.
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Well, hey, you said joining
you every week, joining you ninety
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eight percent of the weeks. I
guess so. Yeah, my apologies.
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Everybody had had a personal situation that
came up that I had attend to sucks
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because I got I didn't get the
cover of the re debut of Jack Perry.
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I'm I am heartbroken by this.
I know, big big fan of
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Jack Perry. Doctor. Like some
would say scared of Jack Perry. I
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think Jack Perry's right there with Apollo
Cruise for me. You interesting, Yeah,
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it's it's it's it's his squeeze,
his main squeeze is Yeah. I
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mean, but honestly, like I
hated missing the show. It drives me
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nuts, especially coming back from my
trip from Atlanta, UH, where I
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got to go to a Brave's game, Jeff, I got to go to
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I got to add a ballpark to
my my resume of ballparks two be into
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although it was against the Florida Marlin, so I don't know if that really
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counts as in Miami, Miami,
Marland. No, they're Florida. You're
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dating, You're dating yourself. Now, big news this week for doctor Trey
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told me before the air, Doc
Tray, you have a huge announcement here
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my friend. Uh so, yeah, I was on Jeff off air that
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I've actually been like cigarette free for
five days now. I actually know what
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they actually it's been a week.
It's actually been seven last Thursday. This
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is huge. Yeah. I mean, Jeff's known me for over a decade
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and I've smoked the entire time I've
been smoking since. I didn't start smoking
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Jeff until I was of legal age, so I wasn't one of those kids
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that you know, stuck a cigarette
when they were teenager. I literally still
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remember the exact day I started smoking. I was like I was right after
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high school. I was eighteen,
got into a fight with my then girlfriend
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and looked at some friends like somebody
give me a cigarette, and they're like,
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you don't smoke. I'm like,
I do. Now give me a
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cigarette, and I have smoked.
Now it was thirty thirty, almost thirty
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years I smoked. That That is
a expensive habit, is it not.
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Uh, it really wasn't that bad
for me because I was never one of
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those like brand specific cigarette guys,
like I wouldn't go for like the cheap
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stuff that basically is like you know, road gravel wrapped in paper because fair
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whatever the cheapest name brand was at
the time. So now Obama, like
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you can still get a pack of
cigrets for like four bucks. Wow,
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okay, not like New York and
New Jersey Like that was actually I knew
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people that that was one of their
side hustles. They would buy cartons of
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cigarettes in Alabama or South Carolina and
then transported up to New Jersey or New
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York and sell it because I mean
last time I was in New Jersey,
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I think it was like twelve bucks
thirteen bucks for a pack of cigarettes,
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and it's expensive up here. Yeah, so I mean you're basically quadrupling your
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money. So you could buy a
cart and for like forty bucks and go
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to Jersey and sell it for four
hundred, So you know it was crazy,
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but uh yeah, it's some other
I still have a vaping thing a
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little bit, but had my first
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from Atlanta Wednesday night. I'm like, oh my god, this just tastes
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horrible and I threw it out.
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it's different like I had that.
I have that moment where I'm like,
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I'll look for one. I'm like, oh, yeah, I don't do
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that anymore. Now. This this
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when when we were growing up,
like smoking was definitely a thing that kids
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did, and like you would see
ads for it in magazines, on television.
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Hell, I mean, NASCAR had
a series called the Winston Cup.
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And then basically the federal government has
done everything possible to mitigate smoking. Like
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you know, when I would go
to restaurants, it was smoking non smoking.
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Now you can't even do that at
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when you talk we talk about it, like a couple of times a year.
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I always feel like people my age
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that's the most insane thing of all
time that we thought, like, no,
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I'm gonna sit in non smoking and
like you would be okay, it
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was just the invisible wall. It
was just smoking. And like I remember
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going to like Burger King or McDonald's
and there would be carton you know,
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things that you could get cigarettes out
of, you know, like getting a
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soda out of a vending machine.
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feel like nowadays kids don't smoke cigarettes. They definitely vape, but I think
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the image coolness factor of cigarettes has
kind of waned, and that could be
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like a North thing. I don't
know what it's like down South, actor
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trap, but I feel like even
when I go out to bars every once
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in a while now like like twice
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life, there's not as many people
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dwindled down from when you and I were
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younger. Yeah, it had.
I mean it's still more prevalent in the
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South. I mean, god knows, when I was traveling it was,
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you know, I was. I
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got to a hotel and they're like, yeah, the entire hotel is non
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smoking. I'm like, this is
because I gets to know, like marijuana
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smoke permeating doorways as I walk down
the hall. But god forbid, I
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had a cigarette. You know,
in the South, it's not it's still
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it's not cool anymore like East me
when I was a kid, the vape
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thing is more the cool thing for
people to do when they're younger. But
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I was telling you, like before
we started the shows, like it was
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funny because I remember when I was
younger and people would quit smoking and they'd
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smell this, and like, most
smokers can't smell the Cigarett smoke on them.
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You're just numb to that scent.
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be one of those guys that starts
like gagging or making sounds or something like
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that when I see somebody else smoking. And Sammy and I and the wife
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had gone to a little restaurant yesterday
and we were walking out there's a lady
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out front smoking, and that smoke
hit me and I was like, oh,
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like and I didn't get sick to
it. It was the tobacco smoke
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actually smelled good. But then there's
like a second layer of smoke that hit
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me. I'm like, oh,
yeah, that's that's not good. Okay,
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I'm fine with this Now we're good. I'm content. So I know
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you had commented to me a few
weeks back that I sounded a little bit
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better. I wasn't coughing on air
like I used to, and I'm like
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a lot of it's just because I
had slowly dwindled down. I mean it
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was six months ago, Jeff,
I was two packs a day, and
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now, like I said, I
haven't had a cigarette in seven days.
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But I have gotten this weird cough
the last two days. So if you
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do hear me cough, it's literally
because of whatever pollen allergy thing going on
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is around me. Because I have
been I have put all my extra resources
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into redoing my front yard, so
I've been planting bushes and plants and planting
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grass and redoing everything. So I've
been outside working in the yard NonStop,
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which once again, six months ago, I would have said to your nuts
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if I did that. So if
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because of allergies and not because I
have the crew or as my as my
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kids says tuberculosis. Yeah, I
mean we're definitely due for a Jeff Pack
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allergy episode soon because Paulin is starting
to come down here, So I'm happy
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for you, man, doctor Trey
always obviously putting the health first, and
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you know, hopefully hopefully it stays
this way, my friend, hopefully you
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don't get the urges to go hit
a drag here for old time sake.
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If my stress level, my stress
level has not decreased, and that was
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always my cop out. That's why
I always said I didn't quit. It's
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like, oh, it's a stress
relief. I haven't had a cigaret in
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seven days. My stress level has
actually gone up okay, and haven't had
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the urge. So I'm like,
I think I'm okay so far. Uh.
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My biggest thing is just the U
I have to do something with my
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hands, Like I like my hands
up so used always having a cigarette nearby
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that when I'm driving, I'll be
like tapping the wheel or fidgeting around,
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just trying to keep my hands occupied
more than anything else. So but yeah,
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I appreciate it, and I haven't
been like you didn't think he posted
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on Facebook. This is just a
random conversation. I don't want to be
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those people who's like, hey guys, seven day ay me. I'm not
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that guy. So just something that
was brought up off air, and Jeff
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thought we should bring it to you
guys. So two things. We were
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talking off air, and I was
like, I think either your blood pressure
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goes up or down during this time. The more I think about it,
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I believe it's your cholesterol will go
up a little bit with when you stop
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smoking cigarettes. And then the second
thing, in regards to your hands,
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I would just start grabbing like your
chest, like to start like grabbing your
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chest and just see and to see
what people's reactions are. Oh, that
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was better when I was bigger,
you know, like when you first met
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me and I was running like two
fifty two sixty. I actually had a
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B cup, So hell yeah,
I actually did that at a time.
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But now that I've lost all the
weight too, I'm like, I don't
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really have a chest anymore to play
with, So it's gonna be that I
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start picking my nose in front of
it was just a freaking out. Wait,
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tell us what you think doctor Trey
should do. Hit us up on
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Twitter at SRTU podcast and give us
some suggestions on what he should do with
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his hands. Now getting to some
wrestling discussion here, Doctor Dray. The
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twenty twenty four WE draft was held
this past Friday on SmackDown for Night one,
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Monday on Raw for Night two.
I guess the theme of this was
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and I wish the we did a
better job creatively kind of pumping this up
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to quell the everybody's like confusion.
And then theme overall was that a lot
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of people didn't move, which is
funny because when I did the solo show
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last week, I sat here and
I previewed the w draft and I said,
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I was like, I gotta be
honest, I don't want many wrestlers
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to move at all. Like I
felt like the way that the rosters were
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for Raw and SmackDown were pretty good, and you know, you move a
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little bit of here, you move
a little bit of there to try to
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make it better. But I did
not want these major drastic changes like we've
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seen in the past, where like
Biancle bel Air has gone from Raw to
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SmackDown or seth Ron's gone from SmackDown
to Raw. He always seemed to be
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one of those guys that went from
Raw to SmackDown, SmackDown to Raw instead.
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I think the theme of this draft
for me, Doctor Trey was the
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lack of movement and the wegms and
they us that a little bit on commentary
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keeping their rosters intact. I felt
like that should have been the theme.
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They should have had a segment heading
into this we draft, like a week
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or two before, where all this
and Adam Pierce are saying to one another
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that they're going to do the best
they can and keep the rosters that they
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are because they like the roster so
much, and they're going to be more
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on the defense of rather than trying
to steal wrestler A or wrestler B from
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the opposing general manager's roster. They
see it more fit to protect Drew McIntyre
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on Raw or Jay Usso on Raw, Bianca Belle Aaron SmackDown. I felt
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like that should have been the theme. That was my major takeaway, Doctor
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Trey was the lack of traction from
the w draft, and I wish that
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they kind of pumped that up a
little bit more creatively heading into it.
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Yeah, see a couple things for
me. At For one, I was
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really glad the USA Network and Fox
were not the one remember that year.
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That's like, Oh, USA Network's
drafting for Raw and Fox is drafting for
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SmackDown. I'm like that would be
literally like take a guy out crowd to
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draft, you know, for your
green Bay package. That was when they
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unfortunately got rid of the general managers. Yeah, so I do like that
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went back. One thing I wish
they would add is, you know,
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you and I are NFL fans.
We we read mock drafts, We read
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combine reports and things like that.
If you're going to bring some people up
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from NXT, which I think that
was kind of a foregone collusion, why
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not have a combine, you know, and have these guys show off their
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physical skills. So that would also
relay to people how good these guys are.
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So when they when a Keana James
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isn't going, wait, who who
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so like that that's another way to
hype up your prospects. But I
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was moderately happy that the rosters didn't
change a whole bunch, you know,
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But I like stability. But the
way they and this year also by protecting
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the champions and not letting the champions
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Agreed just a couple of things like
if you want to make it more
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like an NFL or an NBA draft, hey throw a combine in there,
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Throw a scouting report in there,
throw some things in there. If you
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are so convinced that most of your
audience doesn't watch NXT, hey throw some
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scouting in there on those NXT guys
and be like, hey, here's bron
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breaker man. He runs a four
four forty and he's bench presents this and
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you know, you see how athletic
he is, or stuff like that,
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or just some kind of thing to
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forgotten about Keanu James. And when
you got drafted to row the first time,
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I'm like, it makes no sense, Like I I like this year.
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One thing I did like was the
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Punk drafted higher than mcintie. I
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you know, you'd have a guy
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and you're like, he's the bottom
of the roster, why is he
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getting picked so high? Like this
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put a little more emphasis on that. So so just hold hold the thoughts
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about the NX stuff and the notable
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that. So there were there were
brand changes over under Doctor Trey twenty brand
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changes that you can remember from the
WE draft. I think this year is
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under. It was over really twenty
three brand changes now was a lot about
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the non televised brand changes. There
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ended up putting on w dot com, which I thought was silly because I
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felt like they do raw talk and
talking smack, which they've They've done that
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in the past, so I thought
that was a little bit strange. They
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should have maybe aired like a YouTube
show afterwards or something that had the supplemental
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picks rather than just the draft continues
over on our YouTube channel. Yeah,
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and they've done that before. They
they've they've done that, which is which
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was strange. So I'm going to
run Do you want me to run through
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these at all? These brand changes? Sure, because it's a good refresher
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course. So there's Carmelo Hayes from
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to Raw, which I thought was
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They have written a huge debate of
signing him, Naia Jacks from Raw
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to SmackDown, Seamus from SmackDown to
Raw, Andrade from Raw to SmackDown.
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Keana James from Annixy to Raw,
Alba Fire and Eila Dawn from SmackDown to
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Raw. Baron Corbin from NXC to
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Lwo from SmackDown to Raw, Shinskate
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from nix to Raw, Chelsea Green
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Lyra Valkyria from Nixy to Raw,
Candice Lorraine Indy Hartwell from Raw to SmackDown,
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Final Testament from SmackDown to Raw,
DIY from Raw to SmackDown, Blair
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Davenport from NXC to SmackDown, Apollo
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from Annixy to Raw, Giovanni Vinci
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SmackDown Raw, and finally Tigan Knocks
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brand changes took place during the WE
draft. Doctor Trey, Yeah, and
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I think like the last the last
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those were ones that were non televised, So it's kind of all that's why
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you look at the over under You're
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lot of brand changes, but then
when you look at the numbers, you're
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like, oh, yeah, they
shuffled the mid cart deck, they shuffle
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some stuff around the bottom of the
car. You'll try to give the guys
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some opportunity, but it's just like
none of the real I mean, what
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shins k Maybe the biggest name to
change brands out of this, I think
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Damage Control from SmackDown to Raw.
Yeah, but it's nuts. I don't
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know, and I like them.
We all knew it was gonna happen.
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But I liked the Carmelo Hayes jump
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big star on night one. Being
in learning with Cody, I thought that
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was an old school w draft tactic
where you've seen in the past, like
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Shelton Benjamin gets drafted over to Raw
and then he wrestles Triple H that first
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night and defeats him and they make
a new star. Like I thought that
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they made Carmelo a star in that
moment. If you're asking the casual fans,
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there's still not a lot of like
not saying not a lot of people,
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but people have heard of Carmelo,
But I think that was a great
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way to showcase Carmelo what he can
do, because that dude's sold his ass
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off in that magic Cody. Good
for him. But yeah, like I
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mean, you know the Drew back
in Tires, the you know, the
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like the Bloodline games. Hold those
hold hold that thought, hold that thought.
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I want to get to that notable
round selections in just a second.
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NXT call ups, So there were
seven of them. We discussed them.
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Carmelo, Hayes, Keana, James, Baron, Corbyn, Ili Dragonoff,
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Lyra, Valkyrier, Blair Davenport,
die Jack. I had predicted on last
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week's show that I thought Blair Davenport
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of the way that she was booked. Did not predict any of the others.
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Which one of those NXT call ups
was like a pleasant surprise for you
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and the most that you're most happy
for die Jack like that for me.
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I love Donna or I love die
Jack. Just a good dude. He
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is gone fell. I mean,
you go back to those that feud he
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had with you know, Keith Lee
and NXT. That was some great stuff
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that got brought up in retribution had
to go to the horrible name of key
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Bone as like T bar, which
I don't know what a T bar is.
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Yeah, he says this is a
horrible name and Agammick and then he
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finally gets a chance to go back
to see reinvent himself come back. We
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like the character. He's has some
great matches in NXT, which his ind
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and ring work was never in question, but now it kind of feels like,
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look, it might take him a
little bit to get going, but
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he's a monster with do that's gonna
put great matches. So he's one of
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those guys that you can put into
a good mid card feud with a Sammy
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Zay or somebody and you're going like, damn, this guy's fantastic. Where's
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he been? So I was really
really happy for that biggest shock that was
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not called up from NXC Roxane Perez
like, and they did this whole thing
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where she announced that she was gonna
be eligible for the draft. So I
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don't know, if you know,
they need to keep her in the brand
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for a little bit, a little
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like skill wise, it's more character
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really is turning a corner with a
seal character, and I feel like if
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she did leave NXT, it's potential
that she could get lost in the shuffle
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given the new character change with her. But it's like, then, you
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don't do that thing where the women's
champion is announcing it, and then they
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do address it because Ava tells her
that she should have known that the champions
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were protected despite both her and Ilia
and I know he's no longer the NXC
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champion announcing that they would be eligible
for the draft, which was then okay,
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well then somebody should have said,
listen, that's great that you're doing
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that, but you're not because you're
a champion. So I thought that was
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I thought that was strange. But
it appears to me again it's very hard
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to poke holes creatively in WE lately, but I did feel like there were
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some holes with this WE draft,
and it just kind of seems like they
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were trying to figure out what the
rules should be. This did come up
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on them to hold the WE draft, and they developed the rules in like
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the final week and may have creatively
like botched a couple of things, like
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the Ili h the Roxanne Perez announcements, even though Elia got drafted, and
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then, like I said before,
the the GM should have been pumping up
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like, hey, we want to
maintain our rosters, not you know,
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steal from one another type stuff.
But I thought Roxanne Perez was the biggest
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surprise for not being called up from
NXC doctor Trump, And I feel like
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the way they hedged it was they
had a plan for it, and then
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kind of last minutes that maybe because
you remember, she's still only I think
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twenty one years old, twenty two
maybe at the most, Like I mean,
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she was nineteen when she debuted in
the NXC, so you know,
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maybe things were like, hey,
maybe she needs a little bit more time
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here. Hey maybe we could work
on this, or heck, we need
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we need an anchor for this division
because we just had you know, Lyra
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and Kana and Blair go up.
We still need somebody to kind of anchor
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this division. And Bill p well, because just because she didn't get called
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in, that doesn't mean she can't
get moved up in three or four months.
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Let her let her build somebody else
house. So I think they just
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course corrected and then had to figure
out, hey, how do we make
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this change and make it make sense
and they use the whole to me.
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That's then as you know you're talking
about like make the gms try to protect
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their people. That should have been
an AVA thing. We're able when it
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was my mistake, I went to
Bat, I don't want you lead,
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so I made sure you were protected. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like
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they should definitely tie it up there. Yeah, that's they might. I
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say, it's probably those things where
like probably all the way up until Thursday,
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they had planned on moving her,
and then Thursday night they were like,
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no, let's let's leave her an
next for a little longer. Let's
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let her, let's let help her, Let's let her help build up a
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couple more people before we move her
up. I do think that coming out
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of this what I learned under this
new regime of Triple H, I do
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feel like the wa draft concept needs
to be tankered with a little bit.
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I think the first thing that I
would immediately change, and I toyed with
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the idea preparing for the show here, that it should just be strictly NXT
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based. It should be like just
NXC call ups coming to the main roster.
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Because I got to say, my
favorite thing the entire two nights of
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the draft was when someone was called
up from NXT, seeing them all at
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the performance center, seeing the fans
in the stand and seeing like the genuine
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reaction from the wrestlers themselves who had
no idea and the roster who had no
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idea. Just to see that camaraderie
and happiness from the other wrestlers breaking kfabe
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to celebrate with Keana, James,
Lyra, Valkyria, Blair Davenport, whomever
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that was getting the call up was
really genuine and cool and a really fun,
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natural, organic moment. I was
like, they got to do more
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of this, and it's like,
if the concept is is to keep the
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roster, then maybe the concept needs
to change a little bit where instead of
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two nights, it's just one night
and it's just solely focused on NXT.
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Because I thought those genuine, sincere, organic reactions made the draft. Made
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the draft. Those were the best
moments of them all. Those were my
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favorite moments, was those genuine reactions. Doctor Trey, Yeah, that goes
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back. They did that a couple
of years ago as well. I can't
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remember who it was that was getting
called up. I remember like seeing that
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emotion. It was Alexa Bless.
I remember one. Yeah, it was
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like, oh wow, that's really
really cool to me. How I would
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fix it is all of your stars
are brand exclusive. The night o the
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draft, the gms can trade players, so you can have if you want
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to switch brand, Hey we're going
to trade Shinske and d I Y to
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smack down for this person and you
know this other and other tag team or
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whatever. And then that's how the
trades happened. That's how you can make
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people move from brand to brand.
And then you have, you know,
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eight draft picks and you they're all
NXT exclusive, and hell you might be
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like, hey we trade as Shin's
Kate to SmackDown for their fourth round selection,
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you know, just like the NFL
draft. So that way to play.
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The wrestlers can still move by gms
trading them. Because this whole concept,
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I've never liked how they slot people
and hey, we're gonna because like
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you said, this year is about
protecting you, keeping your roster safe.
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Years past, it's been like we're
gonna try and snipe this guy. Uh.
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It just it felt it never felt
like an actual draft. I agree,
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So let's make it be like,
hey, you know the NBA draft
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that's when players get traded and moved
around, and then we're just going to
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draft from an XT and then that
way you can do those combined numbers.
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You can make it look like player
profiles and things like that and build up
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interest in some of the people that
you may think your audience needs to know
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about before they make that debut.
I agree because the concept of a draft,
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as we all know as sports fans, right you're like, it's not
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like with the MLBA Draft, the
Cubs can steal Aaron Judge from the Yankees
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and the Yankees can steal Show the
Umina from the Chicago Cubs. Like that's
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not happening. It's it's people who
are looking to get signed. So I
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think it should definitely be a little
bit more NXD base. It's funny that
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you keep talking about this combine idea, which I love, because they're doing
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the concept to have the female wrestlers
qualify for a tournament for the women's North
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American Championship in NXT, So it's
like, that's kind of funny that they're
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doing that concept. But I think
it should be more NXD base because those
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reactions are very genuine. Do what
you're saying make it more of the trades
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for the rosters that are currently there, and that can make it a lot
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more fun. Like I think that, and they you call it like a
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draft and like a trading deadline,
right like they have that in sports.
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Or you can do like in college
and called the transfer portal and guys jump
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and jump into the portal and you
can literally be like I like that idea.
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You can learn say hey, you
know, take twenty guys and say
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hey, shins k nakamuraz into the
transfer portal and then as those guys compete
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to keep it if you want to
make it, if you still want to
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make it a two night thing,
there's ways of doing it to tie it
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into draft fanaticism. Because what they're
doing right now, Jeff, for lack
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of a better thing, is a
fancy draft. Yeah, and it's like
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it's great, but we need,
you know, for people like you and
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I who do fancy draft, we
need statistics, We need reasons why why
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are you drafting? Drew McIntyre number
one, And dear God, we don't
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want to go into the aw wins
and losses things because that will drave people
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nuds. But if you're gonna make
it much more like the NFL Draft,
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which what I mean, going off
the ratings and the attendance is what they're
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trying to do. Make us straight
up draft, draft your prospects, trade
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some players around and do it like
that. And to that point, notable
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round selections, and we always bitch
and complain about this because it truly does
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not make any sense. Yeah,
number one. So the first one I
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have is Bianca Belair going number one
overall for some Jay Usa going number one
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overall for Raw on night one.
The Bloodline were selected in round three on
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Night one. Aj Styles, who
is set to face Cody Rhodes this Saturday
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at ww Backlash. Number one contender
was selected in the fourth round on Night
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one. Imperium Gunther and Ludwig Kaiser
went number one overall for Raw. Jade
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Cargill, who has never wrestled a
singles match, went number one for SmackDown
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on Night two. Drew McIntyre,
which they did play in the storyline,
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and Doctor Trey mentioned earlier in the
show, was selected in round three on
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night two, and then the Judgment
Day was selected in round four on night
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two. Hence, yet their their
tagline is that they run Monday Night Raw.
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I mean the notable. The round
selections have never made sense for the
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Dead Wee Draft Doctor Trey because they
just don't correlate most of the time for
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how they are booking the show.
Like again, aj Styles is your number
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one contender, but he goes round
four on Night one like that makes no
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sense to me. Judgment Day going
round Fournite two again, that makes no
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sense to me. That's why I
just really think they need to come back
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a year from now when they do
this again, transfer portal, trade deadline,
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just the WAE Draft for NXC talent. They got to revamp this process
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because I just think it's it's a
little too flawed. From my sports sports
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fandom, mine wasn't the first.
The first draft wasn't like Chris Jericho,
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and I think at the time he
was he was in a few with Triple
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Agent. He was either the champion
or was fighting. Was like a supplemental
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pick that wasn't shown on air.
You're talking about the two thousand and two
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draft, the very first one.
Yeah, I think it was like way
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back when he was he went like
the twenty seventh, the twenty seventh pick,
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and it might have been the night
he lost lost the title on Raw.
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That was so that draft I believe
happened after Wrestlemany eighteen, so he
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would have dropped the title at that
point. Yeah. So, but you
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may be right here. I'm going
to quickly scroll while you're talking. So
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the two thousand and two the very
stubby we draft. But there were I
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mean, there's been years that you
and I were saying here going, how
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is like a like and I don't
mean a knock Apollo cruise, I mean,
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but there's times Apollo has been like
a fifth round draft pick and then
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you know a guy who's in the
main event for like a Samy's saying,
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would be like a ninth round draft
pick or Kevin Owens. I think Kevin
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Owens was like ninth or tenth round, like it was towards the end of
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the draft last year. You know
what I'm like, how how are these
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guys who everybody knows are bigger stars, better merchandise movers getting drafted in rounds
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later than Apollo or you know,
Dominic when he was still relatively new and
437
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:41.960
things like that, Like it's the
way the rounds were set up never made
438
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sense. And you know, it's
like, okay, well, you know
439
00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:47.720
Bianca going first overall is great,
but then, like you mentioned Jade Carter
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00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:51.920
going first, it's like she's never
been in a match. You're basically drafting
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off potential here, but you know
you could have saved somebody else that you
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know has wrestled matches and had he's
been champions. Like, It's just yeah,
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the concept is always flawed to be. Like, now, if they
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came out with like WW fantasy rankings
like you and I look at before we
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draft for our SRTU football leagues,
and these people are ranked higher, then
446
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that can also tie in his storylines, and then it makes sense as to
447
00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:23.119
why this person's drafted high and this
other person that we don't think is a
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better wrestlers drafted lower. Really good
memory, Doctor Trey so Jericho fought Triple
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h the night of the WWE draft. He lost, and then was selected
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onto the SmackDown brand because the Undisputed
Champion could not change brands. He ended
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up going to SmackDown with Where did
I just see it? It was like
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the thirteenth pick or something. Yeah, and it was like supplemental not seen
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on TV. You had to find
out about it on SmackDown later on.
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Yeah, okay, so he went
twenty fifth overall. It was a supplemental
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pick. He went after Stephen Richards
who was selected to Raw to Jerry,
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00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:08.559
Bradshaw and Billy Kidman were all selected
after Jericho. But you know, it's
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like, oh crap, Jericho's available. Would he not be your first pick
458
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of the supplemental draft? Like I
said, it was the main event the
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shows going out the air, but
the very first pick of the supple metal
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draft should be the guy who is
just twenty minutes earlier champion, and it
461
00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:27.920
was to Jerry or Bradshaw. Yeah, that could have been the old regime
462
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of WUE aka Vince McMahon fucking with
Chris Jericho. So yeah, yeah,
463
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:38.359
no, it upset Jericho so bad
he put it in his book. Yeah
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00:31:38.400 --> 00:31:41.599
wow, I've read all those books. I forget that now. Yeah.
465
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I mean, it's just the draft
selections don't make sense. I would highly
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recommend that they reconsidered the concept.
They'd make it more NXT focus, and
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that is when they allow it's like
the two nights a year that they allow
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trades, transfer, portal whatever,
you know, player around with a little
469
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:05.119
bit with like the sports fandom in
the world where Drew McIntyre, which we
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will talk about his new contract with
WE, but he is signed to RAW
471
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for two years and he cannot be
traded or he has a no trade clause
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like they have an MLB or what
have you. Like, they can definitely
473
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make it better and I think what
I learned from this draft is for the
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first time you know in this new
regime that there's an opportunity to make it
475
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better, and I think they need
to do a little bit more sports fandom.
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I think with the old regime it
was always going to be this way
477
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:35.039
and there was going to be no
creativity. I think there is creativity that
478
00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:37.839
can be had with this current creative
team in WWE to make it a lot
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better. So there you go.
The twenty twenty fourt w WE draft is
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in the books. The big news
here Doctor Trey. Despite going in round
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number three on Night two to Monday
Night Raw. In real life, Drew
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McIntyre signed a massive deal with World
rest Entertainment re signed with them. He
483
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will be back, reportedly for another
three years for a significant amount of money.
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00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:07.680
The news was broken by the Rock
of All People, who posted a
485
00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:14.599
video of Drew McIntyre receiving a sword
a gift from the Rock Board of Directors
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00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:21.079
out to dinner with Nick Cohn.
I love the move. I'm happy this
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00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:23.880
has happened. I think Drew McIntyre, since he's been a little bit of
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a tweeter, which would be around
about September time, has been maybe the
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most entertaining wrestler on Worldwist Entertainment television
during that time frame. The character has
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00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:37.920
been really good. You don't know
if he's a heel, you don't know
491
00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:39.759
if he's a baby face. He
comes down to the ring, he slaps
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00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:44.640
hands, kisses babies, but gets
on the microphone and rips the fans.
493
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:49.279
He's fantastic. I mean, we
have loved Drew McIntyre since he returned back
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00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:53.160
to Dowe Wie and even before that
when he was working the ND scene always
495
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:58.440
had high opes from him. Despite
the three and B stuff that Drew McIntyre
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00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:00.279
career has really been covered this entire
time. I'm a BESTRTU, but he
497
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:05.400
is. He's been phenomenal. I'm
very very happy for him. I love
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00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:07.840
that he's saying with w W.
Your thoughts on the signing for both W
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00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:12.360
and True. McIntyre you know,
the crazy thing is there. And I
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00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:14.159
don't know if you've gone through this, but I've gone through this. When
501
00:34:14.199 --> 00:34:17.480
you know you're coming up on either
at the end of your contractor you feel
502
00:34:17.480 --> 00:34:22.440
like, hey, maybe it's about
time for me to change roles, you
503
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:25.840
kind of go into like the zero
f's given mode. And it's usually when
504
00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:30.119
you do your best work. You
usually go screw it, I'm gonna go
505
00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:32.719
out here. I'm gonna do my
thing. If it lines up, great,
506
00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:37.519
If not, I'm out the door
anyway. Or there's other offers out
507
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:39.159
there for me anyway, and you
do your best work. And I feel
508
00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:45.119
like, since this contract's been lingering
now for about six months, six eight
509
00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:47.480
months, Drew's done his best work
in WW. I think the work he's
510
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:52.039
done since September is even better than
the work he was doing during the pandemic
511
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:59.719
time, which means it's given his
character way more depth. He seems like
512
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:05.159
he is just having a ball and
had doesn't give a crap, you know,
513
00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:08.559
And it's like that's usually when characters
are their most refreshing. Is just
514
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:14.519
like you feel like this is almost
the real Drew McIntyre we're seeing on TV
515
00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:17.039
right now. Yeah, he has
an edge and he's you know, he'll
516
00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:21.039
be mean to the crowd at times
as well. But this kind of feels
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00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:25.960
like the first time in what the
fifteen year run of Drew McIntyre and WW
518
00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:30.320
that we're actually seeing Drew McIntyre the
person and I'm here for and I'm really
519
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:35.760
happy he resigned. He just never
felt like a guy that would I mean,
520
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:37.880
honestly, if he went to AW
he would do fine. It just
521
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:44.000
feels like that he would be just
kind of meth after a while, or
522
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:47.280
at least here, I feel like
he's really tapped into something and he's shining
523
00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:51.360
really brightly right now, which you
know, we talked about NFL, we
524
00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:53.719
talked about others right here. That
was his contract year and he was an
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00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:58.280
all pro leading into his contract being
redone, so he got handsomely rewarded for
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00:35:58.360 --> 00:36:00.239
it. So this blends into kind
of what you just said their Doctor Trey
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00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:06.079
about Drew McIntyre and AW what have
you him signing with WWE. Wrestling Observer
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00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:10.639
Newsletter had posted last week before the
announcement was made that Drew McIntyre had resigned
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00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:15.199
with w W. They had said
those in w expect drum McIntyre's resigned with
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00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:20.719
w SCENE is enough of a given
he's being advertised on shows post contract expiration.
531
00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:24.119
The feeling was that while he had
talked of taking off taking time off
532
00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:29.199
if not creatively fulfilled, that he
is very much. He very much is
533
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:31.159
now and is seen as one of
the company's top full time wrestlers with the
534
00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:36.679
Rhodes and Rollins. This is the
point I want to discuss now as we
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00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:40.920
blend from onnceroy to another. They
wrote, there is also the belief WWE
536
00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:47.199
talent is less likely now to opt
for AW. I thought that was telling,
537
00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:57.480
but I also found it not surprising
because the way wrestlers are handled in
538
00:36:57.599 --> 00:37:02.199
AEW when they first joined and it
is pomp, its circumstance, it's fireworks,
539
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:07.519
and then maybe four to eight to
twelve weeks later, the fire,
540
00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:13.159
the heat, the excitement has completely
fizzled off. And this is coming from
541
00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:17.599
a guy who's an AAW fan,
But you cannot discredit that. Adam Copeland
542
00:37:17.679 --> 00:37:22.920
joins the company at Wrestle Dream with
a surprise all EAT wrestling people are excited,
543
00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:28.239
and within four to eight weeks completely
fizzled off. Now, granted he
544
00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:31.159
had a great match with Buddy Matthews
on Dynamite on Wednesday night. I loved
545
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:36.800
it. He's been very solid.
But Adam Copeland, and he may disagree
546
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:38.599
with me, it's his career and
he knows much more about professional wrestling than
547
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:44.000
I do, obviously, but as
a fan, I don't believe Adam Copeland
548
00:37:44.039 --> 00:37:49.199
should be toying around in the mid
card upper mid cards once he joins AAW.
549
00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:55.280
Mercedes Monette and I know she's injured, but she joins big business.
550
00:37:55.280 --> 00:38:00.719
They make a big show about it, and I feel like she's completely ice
551
00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:04.320
cold. And you mentioned earlier on
in the show about AW and the ranking
552
00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:07.159
systems, the ranking systems was back, but now I completely feel like it's
553
00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:13.000
gone because Christian Cage was just randomly
announced number one contender with Swarp Scott and
554
00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:15.119
Mercedes Monet who said she was going
to face the winner of the TBS Championship
555
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:20.400
match at Dynasty without ever wrestling a
match, So she just leapfrogged everybody else
556
00:38:20.440 --> 00:38:22.840
in the ranking system. So I
guess it's gone, And you know,
557
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:25.599
I just feel like time and time
again, j White is an example that
558
00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:30.559
has brought up of who's who's been
hit or miss or ice cold and I
559
00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:34.800
love j Whye. I don't think
he should be toying around with the trios.
560
00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:40.400
You know landscape as well. This
is a surprise, but that it's
561
00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:44.480
in writing, but not a surprise. If you're a fan that watches the
562
00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:49.760
show, your thoughts here, Doctor
Trey of W stars now less likely to
563
00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:53.360
opt for AAW and what is the
reason behind that? Is it the creative
564
00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:58.519
and all elite wrestling with Tony Kahan
or is it how well they're doing with
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00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:04.880
the creative undert I think a big
part of it is. So you look
566
00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:09.360
at the WW roster, most of
the people that we see feature, most
567
00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:16.239
of them, not all, spent
some time in NXT and under the Triple
568
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:22.559
H regime. You already know how
Triple H is going to treat you.
569
00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:25.719
You already have faith in what he's
going to do. You already know his
570
00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:32.920
temperament. AW for a lot of
the guys is an unknown and all you
571
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:39.239
hear are stories, innuendos, things
that people have said. You know,
572
00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:44.360
there's a few people from AAW have
made their way over into WW. Not
573
00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:46.800
just the Cod's of the world or
the Jade, but the Lexus Kings of
574
00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:52.039
the world. You kind of know
what to expect if you make the move,
575
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:54.559
and AW has a track record,
like you and I have talked about
576
00:39:54.599 --> 00:40:00.159
the show, you go back to
Brian Danielson starts off red hot, some
577
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:06.360
great matches. Where's he at now? It's kind of like nobody has really
578
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:12.880
gotten better than they were when they
came in. So if I'm going to
579
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:16.480
make that jump, it's gonna come
down to do I want creative license and
580
00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:21.239
feel fulfilled or do I want ease
and comfort? And it goes back to
581
00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:23.679
you know, the will Ospray conversation
we had a few weeks ago about the
582
00:40:23.679 --> 00:40:30.159
comments with Triple H. There is
a little bit of the grind and maximizing
583
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:34.599
your potential versions where I AW,
I do kind of feel like guys get
584
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comfortable there and a little bit not
lack a days ago because the matches are
585
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still fantastic. But outside of the
guys who are hungry for the top spot,
586
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that's war of strict One's the MJFS. Is anybody really pushing the creative
587
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envelope in AW right now? Like
I don't. I don't see anything that's
588
00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:55.280
like breakthrough TV or must see TV. Do you know what I think is
589
00:40:55.320 --> 00:41:00.760
the best creative thing in AW right
now, what's that Trump Bretta and Cacasidy.
590
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:04.559
It feels real. I mean they've
done a great job with that one.
591
00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:09.239
But like the Jericho Learning Tree,
like it's like I'm starting to come
592
00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:15.280
around on that. It's it's but
it took him turning kind of heel again
593
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for it to kind of work.
You know. It's just that's that there's
594
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less in a sense, there's less
creative stability in AW where I think there's
595
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more. You have more faith in
the creative in WWE right now. And
596
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if I was a wrestler trying to, you know, do what do I
597
00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:36.719
want out of my career? It
kind of depends. If I'm a younger
598
00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:39.039
guy, I'm probably gonna go to
WE because they're gonna find something for me
599
00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:43.920
to do. Where AW, You're
probably you might get lost in the show
600
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for a little while. If I'm
an older wrestler and I know I'm nearing
601
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the you're nearing the end and I
don't feel like I've accomplished or I feel
602
00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:54.199
like I've accomplished everything I could accomplish
in WWE. Yeah, AW makes a
603
00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:59.119
ton of sense. You can kind
of rest on your coast, on your
604
00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:04.199
accolades and get a good paycheck and
after wrestler is hard. Yeah, no,
605
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I mean it's it's very funny how
things have changed. And I think
606
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when we go back through the history
of our show here, when like AW
607
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launched and we were banging the drum
of like Triple H needs to come in,
608
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people are going to leave the company. It's a lighter schedule, more
609
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money, and you could be more
creatively fulfilled. And it took them some
610
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time, and it eventually through other
channels, got to Triple AH to running
611
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the show, and you're seeing that
payoff extremely well. I mean, just
612
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create creatively. It seems like there's
more creative freedom now in w than there
613
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wasn't AW, which is mind boggling. AW has really good, a really
614
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good in ring product. But I
watched Dynamite the other night and I just
615
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thought I was like terribly bored for
the most part. Like it you watched
616
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Raw for three hours, that doesn't
feel like three hours. SmackDown for two
617
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hours is really good. NXY as
its hits or misses still, but they're
618
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doing a good job. It's just
AW is getting boring to me. They
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need a little bit of a creative
shakeup. And I just thought it was
620
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it was interesting to see this play
out like the way that it was.
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We're saying that w stars are now
less likely to opt out, and there's
622
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some major names that are going to
be available. I think Finn Balor confirmed
623
00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:23.559
he resigned, Drew McIntyre is now
confirmed resigned. Rollins and Becky Lynch their
624
00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:28.639
contract's supposed to be coming up.
I can't see them leaving. I think
625
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Kevin Owens contract maybe up where he
may have signed an extension a couple of
626
00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:37.639
years ago. Yeah, it's just
funny how the ties have changed. And
627
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I can't blame the wrestlers because it's
playing out to me as if you were
628
00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:45.679
at home being like, yeah,
I could understand why Star would want to
629
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:50.800
go to AW, but now I
totally understand why w Starr would not want
630
00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:55.000
to go to AAW. I just
think there's a crowded roster and every time
631
00:43:55.079 --> 00:44:00.119
you see a big name join,
there is a lot of and circumstance and
632
00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:04.320
excitement and then it kind of fizzles
out. I think some people may say
633
00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:08.079
that Will Osprey could be dealing with
that soon with the International Championship match,
634
00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:13.079
and even though if he wins creatively, he may fizzle out a little bit
635
00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:15.119
and he may be one of the
hottest stars in the company. You know,
636
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:17.920
this were of strickling stuff. They
waited a little bit too long before
637
00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:22.440
they finally executed, even though I
feel like they kind of booked themselves in
638
00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:27.800
a corner, so it's not necessarily
their fault in that instance. Nonetheless,
639
00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:30.760
interesting, I don't have this down
on the rundown here, doctor Trey,
640
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:34.840
but I guess this is a good
opportunity to talk about it. You had
641
00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:37.519
the big Dynamite angle where the Elite
took out the new Elite took out Tony
642
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:43.960
Kahn on Wednesday's Dynamite. They followed
it up on Wednesdays this past Wednesdays Dynamite
643
00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:49.039
by taking out Kenny Omega, cutting
the feed, running the intro. What
644
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:52.360
was your thought on the follow up? And obviously we'd get an opportunity to
645
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:54.679
talk to you on last week's show. What are your thoughts on the long
646
00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:59.679
term of this angle, because there
are obviously people out there that think that
647
00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:04.119
this be the rejuvenation of the product, comparing it to the nWo from the
648
00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:08.280
aw standpoint, What did you think
of everything so far? I don't hate
649
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:12.960
it. I will say, you
know, if you go back to when
650
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they played the video from you know, all from all out hated that.
651
00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:22.199
But one thing we said was if
it can lead into something that's compelling,
652
00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:28.440
hey, that's great. The stuff
with Jack Perry and Tony Kahan, like,
653
00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:30.400
for what it was, I thought, I mean, it was obviously
654
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:35.360
to me, I think the worst
sell of Like it's almost as bad as
655
00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:39.760
when Vince took the first stunner,
but selling wise horrible. I did love
656
00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:44.039
that Tony Cohn wore the neck break
through the NFL draft. I love that
657
00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:49.079
that was great. He sold it
the entire time. The stuff with Kenny
658
00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:54.280
Omega you know this week I thought
was really good. Is it nwoesque?
659
00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:58.960
It's in the ballpark. But the
problem is is that anytime you try to
660
00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:00.599
do something similar that everyody's gonna shit
on it and go, oh, you're
661
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:06.119
just ripping off the nWo. Everything's
a rip off nowadays. So I don't
662
00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:09.960
hate it. It is kind of
reinvigorating the Bucks. I like the Bucks
663
00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:14.280
new characters. I think it's really
funny and I love that they're just kind
664
00:46:14.280 --> 00:46:17.440
of leaning into what people like me
were saying. Well, they're EVPs they're
665
00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:22.840
gonna get their way. They're leaning
into it. I like that the stuff
666
00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:24.719
with Jack Perry. I like,
I'm not a huge Jack Perry famb but
667
00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:29.159
I like that they're bleeding into it. Having Ocada in the group gives them
668
00:46:29.199 --> 00:46:32.719
some credibility because otherwise, without Okada, you'd have three guys that weigh one
669
00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:37.880
hundred and eighty pounds or less trying
to run the company like that would kind
670
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:42.239
of you know, realistically, I
would kind of hate that. But it's
671
00:46:42.519 --> 00:46:45.239
very funny you just said that Dutch
tray. Because I hate to say this
672
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:47.679
because obviously all those guys could beat
me up. And I say this all
673
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:52.119
the time about Jack Perry, but
I find nothing intimidating about Jack Perry.
674
00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:54.920
And I thought, now with what
we're seeing that video of him being like
675
00:46:55.280 --> 00:47:00.920
owned by cmpunk, the all out
backstage footage, does not make me think
676
00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:02.920
he's some sort of bad ass.
No, but it makes me think they
677
00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:07.199
they you know, the way the
character being, they're not. They're not
678
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:10.599
being portrayed as badasses like Holland Nash
was when they came in. Yeah,
679
00:47:10.760 --> 00:47:15.840
when Hallan Nash held off the entire
w CW lockerom at one point by themselves.
680
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:22.039
They were portrayed as bad asses.
They're slimy, sleazy scumboutis and I
681
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:27.599
think they're leaning into that really well. And having Okada in the group gives
682
00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:30.119
them a little bit of physical,
you know, physical presence. I think
683
00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:35.119
they need one more big guy in
the group. You throw a Keith Lee
684
00:47:35.159 --> 00:47:38.480
into that group and let him have
his like crappy mustache and beard, Like
685
00:47:38.599 --> 00:47:42.599
I'm good with that. Like have
them look like Uncle Philigin, like there's
686
00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:46.079
your physical presence in the group,
or a ward Blow or somebody like that,
687
00:47:46.320 --> 00:47:50.360
if you could, you know,
make that move somebody of that ilk
688
00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:54.639
to give that little physical presence,
because I like, they're not trying to
689
00:47:54.800 --> 00:48:00.679
overpower people one on one. It
is you know, slimy, sleazy,
690
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:05.440
dirty tactics in that part. I
dig because that fits their character and their
691
00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:10.320
size. Yeah, yeah, it's
it's interesting. It's an interesting Uh.
692
00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:14.559
They're trying and they gotta get something
to the yard. I just felt like
693
00:48:14.599 --> 00:48:17.800
I wish I saw a little bit
more on Wednesday's Dynamite that kept further this
694
00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:22.119
along. Go Okay, this is
pretty cool. We're in a real good
695
00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:24.159
direction. But I think it was
kind of a baby step instead of a
696
00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:30.159
big step coming out of the Big
Angle on Wednesday's Dynamite and then finally here
697
00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:35.239
before we get to backlash doctor Trey
uh the report from Wrestling Observer newsletter,
698
00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:38.239
there's a chance of The Rock doing
a match late this year, but the
699
00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:44.440
Cody Rhoads match was tentatively for Wrestmating
forty one. Whether Roads is champion or
700
00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:47.920
not, is this the direction you
want to see for The Rock, the
701
00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:57.280
Rock versus Cody Rhoads word for Cody
Roads at Wrestlmating forty one, it feels
702
00:48:57.320 --> 00:49:02.239
like Roman's going baby face. To
me, it depends on can somebody else
703
00:49:02.360 --> 00:49:07.679
get hot as a heel? You
know, Like that's if you're like,
704
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:10.400
hey, worst case scenario Cody and
the Rock WrestleMania forty one. Hey,
705
00:49:10.639 --> 00:49:13.920
if that's the worst case scenario for
your main event, it's not a bad
706
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:17.400
worst case scenario. But we've seen
it before with other wrestlers. They get
707
00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:23.960
hot, plans change to capitalize on
that. I think if if we talked
708
00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:28.960
about a coup weeks ago, if
you end up doing like Roman and the
709
00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:32.559
original blood Line against Rock and the
New blood Line, that's a good angle
710
00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:37.639
to run. But right now once
again with Roman being out and kind of
711
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:42.000
reshuffling the deck, and now you
have you know, Damian Priest is the
712
00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:45.880
top heel on raw Well, who's
the top heel on SmackDown? Is it
713
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:49.960
Solo? Is it aj or do
you need another heel to get hot?
714
00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:54.760
And I thought Gunther would have been
a great move to go to SmackDown because
715
00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:58.400
then Cody and Gunther on the same
brand. But they didn't make that move.
716
00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:01.840
So it's gonna be interesting see who
they positioned to be the long term
717
00:50:01.960 --> 00:50:07.360
rival for Cody, because right now, between now and next April, right
718
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:10.119
now, it's the Rock and they
haven't built up anybody else to take that
719
00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:16.280
next level. Yeah, it's I
like the direction and it will be interesting
720
00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:19.960
how this all plays out, because
I think it makes the most sense right
721
00:50:19.960 --> 00:50:22.119
now. But I was intrigued to
see that they're gonna go Cody Rock for
722
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:27.039
wrestlemaning forty one right now, no
matter if he's champion or not, which
723
00:50:27.079 --> 00:50:30.360
is kind of peculiar, or the
saying if he's champion or not. I
724
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:35.199
made a case on last Week'spot Doctor
Trey that I felt like Gunther should be
725
00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:38.400
moved to SmackDown feud with Cody,
and I could see him winning the title
726
00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:43.719
at the Bash and Berlin show when
he's a little bit more closer to home
727
00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:47.199
they're near Austria, but it seems
like that is not the case that they're
728
00:50:47.199 --> 00:50:52.000
going to be heading towards. I
feel like Cody versus Gunther would be a
729
00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:54.639
great WrestleMania match, but I guess
maybe that still happens if he should win
730
00:50:55.280 --> 00:51:00.400
the Royal Rumble later this or early
next year. Yeah, I mean,
731
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:02.360
and you know, you could always
I mean, there's a guy who's not
732
00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:07.519
in the company right now who was
blacklisted for a little while that he's always
733
00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:09.639
known to pop up by the name
of Brock Lesner. You can always revisit
734
00:51:09.719 --> 00:51:15.559
Cody and Brock again at that point. So it's just right now, they're
735
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:21.119
trying to build up some new stars
to fill the boys left by some guys
736
00:51:21.119 --> 00:51:23.880
who are out with injury or taking
time off or something like that. And
737
00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:29.360
that was part of the issue with
when you have a champion like Roman dominate
738
00:51:29.559 --> 00:51:34.159
for three years, is it's kind
of hard to build death because we've seen
739
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:38.840
Roman beat everybody. Well, now
Cody's beat Roman, but everybody else around
740
00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:44.800
has been beaten by Roman. So
who has the credibility to step up other
741
00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:47.119
than a gunther right now? And
that's not the rather take. I mean,
742
00:51:47.119 --> 00:51:51.199
how many times do we see AJ
lose to Roman and now we just
743
00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:52.960
puse on paper, go oh,
well HEJKB Cody, Well, Cody beat
744
00:51:53.000 --> 00:51:57.119
Roman, Roman beat AJ. So
where do you go from there? So
745
00:51:57.599 --> 00:52:00.280
they have a little bit of depth
issue on the heel side on SmackDown right
746
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:04.159
now? All right? Then,
finally here, doctor Trey, let's preview
747
00:52:04.159 --> 00:52:07.840
and predicta wa backlash. It comes
to us this Saturday from the LDLC Arena
748
00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:13.679
in Leone, France. It will
be taking place one pm East ten am
749
00:52:13.719 --> 00:52:15.920
on the Pacific here in the United
States, so it'll be an early show
750
00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:20.280
for anybody who wants to catch it
on a May afternoon. I don't know
751
00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:23.440
whether it's been pretty damn awesome lately
where I live. Maybe I'll catch it
752
00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:27.559
at night or maybe I'll catch it
on Sunday. With that said, let's
753
00:52:27.559 --> 00:52:30.480
go through the card here, Doctor
Trey. Randy warton Kevin Owens taking on
754
00:52:30.519 --> 00:52:32.599
the Bloodline and a tag team match. I have the Bloodline winning this one.
755
00:52:32.920 --> 00:52:36.880
I have Bloodline also, and I'm
still trying to figure what MFT stands
756
00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:39.760
for. You know, people are
saying my family tree, but it's like
757
00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:45.440
that that would be lame missl my
favorite Tonguan. I like that one.
758
00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:47.960
Yeah, they gotta tell us.
I mean it's gotta be MF right,
759
00:52:50.199 --> 00:52:54.039
m F and Tauma Yeah, MF
and Tunga. This is my mother f
760
00:52:54.119 --> 00:52:59.239
and tauma. Yeah, I don't
know. Strange. The Warriors defend the
761
00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:01.960
WA wins to Team championship against Bianca
bell Aaron, Jade Cargill, Doctor Trey.
762
00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:06.280
Who do you liking this one?
I'm taking Bianca and Jay because they
763
00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:09.039
were number one overall draft picks for
their brands on respective nights, so you
764
00:53:09.079 --> 00:53:13.559
can't have number one picks losing to
you know, round three, round four
765
00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:16.239
people. Yeah, I got Bianca
and Jade winning this one as well.
766
00:53:16.679 --> 00:53:22.559
Bailey defends the WA Women's Championship in
a triple threat match against Naomi and Tiffany
767
00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:25.039
Stratton. I am tempted to pick
Tiffany Stratton here, dotch Trey. I
768
00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:29.840
think she is due to get a
potential title run, but I could see
769
00:53:29.840 --> 00:53:32.480
her taking the l and then maybe
becoming the winning the Bank winner in just
770
00:53:32.519 --> 00:53:36.960
a couple of months. So I
have Bailey retaining. Yeah, I have
771
00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:39.000
Bailey Rotaye, but I'm like with
you, I kind of picture Tiffy strad
772
00:53:39.000 --> 00:53:43.000
winning one of the bank and then
Tiffy time as anytime she wants to catch.
773
00:53:43.039 --> 00:53:45.239
It makes a lot of sense.
Damian Priest defends the World of aweight
774
00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:50.000
Championship against jay Uso dtor Tre.
Who do you liking this one? Uh?
775
00:53:50.519 --> 00:53:52.719
Once again, like when you have
brand new champions, it's hard to
776
00:53:52.760 --> 00:53:55.239
take somebody to beat the brand new
champion as much as as much fun and
777
00:53:55.360 --> 00:53:59.400
energy as Jay Juso has, I'm
still taking Dabian Priests to retain. I
778
00:53:59.440 --> 00:54:01.960
have Damienes as well for nearly the
same exact reason, which that takes me
779
00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:06.119
to my next match. Cody Roads
defending against aj Styles for the n disputed
780
00:54:06.119 --> 00:54:09.440
at W Championship. I cannot see
Cody Roads dropping the title, so I'm
781
00:54:09.480 --> 00:54:14.440
gonna take Cody to retain. I'm
taking Cody as well, with maybe maybe
782
00:54:14.480 --> 00:54:16.039
a little bit of well you,
Cody bay Pace. You can't really have
783
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outside interfairs, but I could still
see La Night getting into the picture as
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well. You might get a triple
threat batch here next month for the next
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paper the next pl So there you
go, wa Backlash preview and predictions.
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We will recap and interview at all
on next week's edition pod. With that
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said, let's get a couple couple
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from Lovely Hazel Green, Alabama.
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as well, So if you're in
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If not, you'll find it up
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hopefully I can make an appearance,
but I am having my foot fusion
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surgery on May fourteenth, so I
don't know if I will be there,
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which makes me sad. But other
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Go check out your local favorite independent
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look at now might be a first, second, third, or hey,
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in Chris Jericho's case, a thirteenth
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