July 26, 2024

Did the NBA just hurt or help AEW? | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #754 – 7/25/24

Did the NBA just hurt or help AEW? | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #754 – 7/25/24

On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:

- -- Did the NBA just hurt or help AEW?
- -- I think we have found AEW's answer to WWE's WrestleMania!
- -- A former WWE Champion may be leaving the company soon!
- -- And a "love letter" to recent...

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On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:

  • -- Did the NBA just hurt or help AEW?
  • -- I think we have found AEW's answer to WWE's WrestleMania!
  • -- A former WWE Champion may be leaving the company soon!
  • -- And a "love letter" to recent happenings in professional wrestling!

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It's still be.

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Welcome everybody. Welcome to this week's edition It's to a

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Real Show, Episode number seven hundred and fifty four for

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July twenty fifth, twenty twenty four. Welcome to this week's

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edition of s R Team You. I am one after

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the show, I am Jeff Peck joined every single week,

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my show was the one only Doctor Troy Franklin, Doctor Trey.

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I never thought the NBA would affect professional wrestling.

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My friend, I mean, you had Karl Malone, Dennis Rodman,

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Shaquille O'Neill. I am to this day, I am still

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amazed that there was no Muggsy bogus crossover into the

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world of professional wrestling. But the NBA has had a

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slight impact on professional wrestling in the so why would

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now be any different.

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Yeah, there's definitely been a lot of impact in ring wise.

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Out of the ring wise is a whole nother ballgame,

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and that takes us to one of our first stories

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and topics that we'll cover here on this week's dition

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thepodcast Dot Trey. That being, there's been a lot of

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buzz and talk centered around aw's contract renewal negotiations with

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Warner Brothers Discovery aka TBS, TN T True TV if

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you're really into all that other stuff, and I think

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obviously Discovery Channel as well. Earlier this week, the reports

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were out there that they were nearing a deal, a

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deal would be announced soon. Stuff started popping up on

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HBO Max, I believe outside of the United States, which

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had people excited, and then a little bit of a

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bombshell Wednesday Night. Warner Brothers Discovery has always been bidding

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on TNT NBA on TNT, and they were going to

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match the that the NBA was currently offering. That being

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I think it was like a seventy six billion dollar

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deal and they had the right to match it. So

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they matched the deal, and I'm thinking, all right, great

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NBA on TNT is staying inside the NBA, Great NBA

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show for those who enjoy basketball is staying and we'll

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see how this affects all lead wrestling. It was basically

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kind of quasi potentially hanging up the announcement of a deal,

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and then the NBA announces that Warner Brothers Discovery did

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not fully match everything that Amazon was offering in their

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deal for the NBA, and hence they were going to

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award the contract for NBA to NBA on NBC's return, ESPN,

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Disney and Amazon Prime Video, leaving Warner Brothers Discovery without

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the NBA, which now puts into a little bit of

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an interesting tailspin. How does the NBA affect all lead wrestling?

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How does it affect professional wrestling? There are two schools

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a thought here. One school of thought is this is

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just going to lead into you know, TNT. Warner Brothers

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Discovery cannot lose all elite wrestling, therefore they will resign them,

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keep them on their network and have regular original programming.

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The second school of thought here is the NBA leaving

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Warner Brothers Discovery could lead to a whole new revamp

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of focus and programming on Warner Brothers Discovery. A llah

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what happened in two thousand and one when they wanted

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to get out of original programming and just focus I

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believe at that time on dramas, and that led to

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WCW being sold to w for pennies on the dollar.

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So we're kind of in this wait and see process.

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Sean ross Sapp reported from Fightful Select that Tony Kahan

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and David Zaslow Zazlov, who is the CEO of Warner

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Bu's Discovery are set to meet with one another during

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the Olympics over in Paris, France. So shout out Tony

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kanf for going to Paris, France. And that has always

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been on the calendar. Big weight in SEAE process here,

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Doctor Trey and you know, we really don't know where

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things are going right now, but this NBA deal could

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either positively or negatively affect the future potentially of all

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lead wrestling on Warner brother Discovery channels.

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Yeah, and then you saw war Bros. Come out and

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say that they feel like they did match the offer.

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So this whole thing with Amazon the NBA is not

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quite over because that typically means there's gonna be some

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kind of litigation. It's some kind of lawsuit being filed

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and everything else. So yeah, it's it's a weird situation

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for Warner Brothers Discovery because you know, it's it's been

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bought and sold in transitioned so many times over the

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last decade, not even going back to the WCW days,

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just you know, in the last ten years, it's changed

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ownership pains like three times. So they're constantly trying to

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revamp and find you know, their their little wheelhouse, their

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little market niche that they can find a loyal subscriber base,

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and they keep tweaking things.

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And so that's you know, why we're at where we're now,

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where it's like.

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You're not going to get a clear signal on which

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direction they're going to go. On one hand, you can

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look at and go, hey, this is really a sweet

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for AW, because if they don't get the agreement, Look,

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they just bid seventy six billion.

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Dollars on this, and apparently one of us, Discovery.

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Has many six billion dollars, and they can spend on

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AW or spend on other things and include AW that group.

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But if they do go the route of, look, nothing

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we have on this network right now is really generating interest.

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And if we lose the NBA, you know, should we

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just go the route of like the Roku channel and

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just play old movies and you know, stream Ghost Brothers

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non stop for people to watch, you know, which is

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the right direction to go.

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So it does kind of put everything up in the air.

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But I think, I mean, if you're Tony Conn, you

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can look at it and say, hey, you know, for

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for what we do, we have a strong audience base

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that draws you know, certain demographics, drust, certain viewership, and

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you can count on this and rely on this and

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bank on this and build around it and become your

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own little niche product.

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And you know it, could it be?

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Could they do like kind of a Spike TV did

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years and years ago and kind of make it into

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a Channel four guys, or a Channel four you know

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the combat sports market as well.

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Yeah, it's a really interesting time right now because I

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think I would typically think that there's a good chance

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that all lead wrestling would stay now, but I don't

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think it's as cut and dry. Doctor Trey brought up

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a very good point that Warner Brothers Discovery is going

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to the courts in regards to challenge all this and

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say that they did match the offer. So that may

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be drawn out for some period of time, and who knows,

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maybe the end up NBA ends up back on TNT

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after the twenty twenty five season. They do have a

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sliver of this pie that they were willing to invest

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in the NBA, and I think I think their deal,

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I want to say, was to match like the like

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eleven billion, maybe eleven billion, of that seventy six billion

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dollar pie that was being combined there with Disney and

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NBA on NBC as well, So they have this money

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to play around with, and is that money that they

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want to invest in All Elite Wrestling. The unfortunate thing

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that I'll bring up here about All Eite Wrestling and

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it has no way whatsoever reflective of their programming. I

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would say in the last four to five weeks is

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their attendance has been low in the arenas and their

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viewership has been down from the year previously, in years

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previous to that's it's a drop that is concerning because

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most of the time in professional wrestling, unless you're WWE,

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when there's a drop in viewership like that, it is

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hard for a company to recover. And in the last

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twenty five years, you can immediately point to TNA Wrestling.

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There was a period of time TENA Wrestling was, how

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not as hot as ever All EAT Wrestling was, and

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they dropped and they're kind of a niche wrestling product

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now while at one time they were mainstream, and I

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would say All EAT Wrestling is mainstream at this point. Also,

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so if you're a wrestling fan, if you are enjoying

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what is going on in WE and you don't like

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All EIT Wrestling. If you're a wrestling fan who likes

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All EAT Wrestling and doesn't like WE. If you're a

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wrestling fan that loves WE and All Lead Wrestling, no

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matter where you sit, you need to be rooting for

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this television deal for All Eat Wrestling to happen. Because

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for AW to be on a network like Warner Brothers

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Discovery Channels is a good thing for professional wrestling as

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a whole because when AW launched, they push WE to

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be better and now that WWE has been better, I

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feel like, which is something we'll get on later on

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in the show. Here they are pushing AEW to be

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better creative and that is making for a really fun

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period of time profession and wrestling for the wrestling fan.

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So no matter where you sat, like, dislike in the

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middle on AW, you need to be cheering this on

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because AW having a television deal, whether you watch or not,

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is good for the industry as a whole. And I

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can't stress that enough.

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Doctor Try Yeah, I mean, competition breeds results. If there

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was no coke, there'd be no PEPSI. They wouldn't be

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pushing each other, you know, in years past, burking push

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McDonald's to be better.

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It's always been those things, you know, if you're a

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sports fan.

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The Red Sox pushed the Geeds to be better, the

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Cardinals pushed the Cups to be better.

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You know, things like that.

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Those things really happen, and we saw, I mean, you

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and I talked a couple weeks ago off air about,

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you know, maybe one day doing a show on on

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WWE in the early two thousands, when you and I

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sat here were like, man, this show is so awful.

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I don't even know we should continue to podcast because

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it was just so bad.

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Because there's no.

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Competition, they literally could just throw anything out there, and

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because there was such a loyal fan base, they knew

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they had so many people that was gonna eat it

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up regardless, and they'd be fine. When AW came along,

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we saw WW get better and change how they were

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doing things and adapt things that AW was doing differently

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and bring it into their fold. I mean a few

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years ago, we never saw guys walking through Gorilla through

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the curtain.

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And that was something you saw on AW. We saw

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the camera angles change, we see the production things change.

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Competition brings results, and that's why if you're a wrestling fan,

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you really want you know a number two.

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We see it in politics. You know, if there was.

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Only one political branch, people would be pissed off. We

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have two and everybody's pissed off. If we had a

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third one to be even more chaos. But that chaos

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usually brings in results because somebody who wants to get

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at the top of that mountain.

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Yeah, it's a good thing for the industry as a whole.

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I mean, I lived in the world of professional wrestling

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when there was ECWWWWE and that was great for professional wrestling.

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When ECW and WW went away for twenty plus year,

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seventeen years, eighteen years, and WA was the lone survivor

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on mainstream television, you had TNA make a run at it.

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You had RoHS that was very niche. TNA, obviously, as

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I punted out, dropped off later on, and that made

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for bad programming. WWW did not have to change. WA

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did not feel challenged. They felt like whatever they did

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for their fans, the fans had no choice but to

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like it or leave it, and a lot of fans left,

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and of course a lot of fans like Doctor Trey

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and I stayed. So if you want professional wrestling to

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be successful, if you want to have fun on a

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mon Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday night, then you need

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this to happen. And I can't stress that enough. Like

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I said previously, predictions on this all Doctor Trey. I

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ultimately think this gets done. I think all ELA Wrestling

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remains on Warner Brothers Discovery Networks. I don't think the

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HBO Max move took place just randomly. I think there

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is some smoke to that at fire. However, I would

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be remiss if I didn't say that I am concerned

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about the NBA deal not going through because it could

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theoretically change strategies in an instance. Obviously HBO Max having

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it on you know, aw programming on that platform outside

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the US is not a slam dunk, but it is

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a good sign all pun intended. I would say ninety

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percent of me is sure that the deal gets done,

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and I would say ten percent of me thinks it doesn't.

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So it's not one hundred, it's not notin in a

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nine point nine. It's it's ninety percent in my mind

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gets done. But there is that inkling that has me concerned,

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and that is that that ten percent right now.

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Yeah, I'm with you, I feel like it's a ninety

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percent done deal as well. I mean that it does

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feel like AW is like this is gonna be a

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really bad analogy.

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Given this is, okay, a very non PC analogy.

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AW kind is like the fat girl that Warbus knows

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they can hook up with at any point they want to,

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but they're still looking at all these other things. Whether

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you know, you go back a few months ago there

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was the flirtations with WWE. You know, now you got

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the whole NBA thing. They just feel like AAW is

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always there because where else is AAW going to go

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and get this kind of exposure that they get from

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Warner Brother's Discovery. So it kind of feels like it's

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their fallback, it's their safe pick to go in and

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get the deal done. But they're gonna, you know, play

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the field and sow their wild oats dancing around to

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kind of figure out what works best.

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For the company as all.

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Yeah, yeah, absolutely, that's what they have to do best.

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I think the little part of this that has me

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interesting interested on the entire process is the exclusive window

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Warner Brothers Discovery has on all of the wrestling negotiations.

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If that runs out and AW is free to talk

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to other companies. Will Tony Kahan's kind to still stay

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low loyal to Warner Brothers Discovery or will they shop

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it around to other networks. I think that is the

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window to keep an eye on. And I think that

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ends like mid August, maybe early September. So I think

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it's coming soon, Doctor Trey, And that to me is

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a very intriguing part of this entire negotiation process.

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Obviously, yeah, because what if Hulu decides they want to

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jump in and counterprogram what Netflix is doing and that

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window lapses all of a sudden, Hulu jumps in with

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a really big offer that then Warner person ends up

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fighting Hulu on two different fronts.

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When it comes to the NBA and AW, I mean there's.

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There are there.

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AW will have options to go elsewhere, but we'll end

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up being like TNA, where you know, they go from

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Spike to you know, some random channel that not everybody has.

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I think with the streaming services that are out there,

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if if AW has a game plan for how to

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stream their content on certain platforms, they are an attractive

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entity to somebody else.

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I just it just kind of wonders, like, you know.

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How are these other streaming platforms going to one, a

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counter program ww going to Netflix.

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All right, keeping with all of wrestling, then television negotiations

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will be something we'll be keep an eye on here

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all summer long, and who knows, it could be something

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that ends next week based on some of the recent

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reports as well. One thing is for certain in my mind,

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Doctor Trey, And this is a longstanding debate in the

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history of SRTU when it comes to AW, and that

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being what is All the Wrestling's version of WrestleMania? And

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I feel like, as if you were what I'm noticing

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from watching at home, I think it's All in Wembley now.

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I think All In has become their WrestleMania. This is

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the most hyped, talked about, desirable show that the wrestlers

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want to be on in their promos and their matches

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and their creative thinking that we've seen. And I think,

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at least for me, Doctor Trey, unless you feel otherwise,

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I think the answer has been ratified. I think All

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in Wembley or wherever it ends up in the future,

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that is aw's WrestleMania. Do you agree or disagree with that?

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Based on the things that you've seen on programming lately.

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I will say, right now, I feel like it's their WrestleMania,

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but as we've seen in five years, it does kind

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of shift with the winds at times. I mean, you

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typically have the calendars more available than I do. How

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far back do they push all out from all In?

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Because last year is a week Like you can't do

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back to back things and have them one.

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B year featured.

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You know, your your WrestleMania and then almost counter program

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your own WrestleMania week later.

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I think this year they pushed it out two or

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three weeks.

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It's two weeks now two weeks.

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I still think like that's too close, Like it just

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doesn't give you enough time to digest what you just saw.

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But I do feel like based on the promotion and

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the match card and what we're hearing, all In is

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their WrestleMania. But in a couple of years, if it's

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not at Wembley Stadium, or it's not drawing seventy thousand people,

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do they shift it back to double or nothing or

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it just it doesn't I think they're still trying to

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figure it out out. But we know that cons have

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a long standing history with the city of London.

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We know how well all In did last year.

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I just you know, as a consumer of product, you're

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almost to stick another event so close to it, you're

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almost counter programming your own, you know.

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Meal ticket.

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So to me, I think you need to separate all

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In and all Out and then that draws that definite

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line in the sand for you.

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Well, I think there's definitely two schools of thought here.

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I think one, I think we're in agreement that all

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In is feeling like Aw's WrestleMania. The second part that

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you're bringing up that is so true is one week out,

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two weeks out after a pay per view in general

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is not very good business. And I remember w W

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we did that with SummerSlam during the pandemic era with

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I think it was like fast Lane or something like

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that happened right after SummerSlam, and that was actually that start,

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the match that started Roman Range is run as World

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Champion Universal Champion from that point forward. Is when he

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like showed up in the Triple Threat, defeated Strowman and

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Bray Wyatt won the title and then held it for

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nearly four years. That was like a week later, and

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I want to say a couple of years ago and

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this may be the pandemic era as well, but I'm

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pretty sure they ran a WrestleMania backlash like two weeks

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or three weeks after WrestleMania, and I don't like that

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at all. I always feel like Doctor Trey that a

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pay per view should happen in between a paper view

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should happen in between one another at a minimum four weeks.

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Give me four weeks of programming, not two weeks, not

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one week, not even three weeks. You gotta let it

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breathe some And no matter what the show is, I

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am not a fan of something that is airing a

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week or two later from a major pay per view.

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Yeah. And typically, also, like when you have All In

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or WrestleMania, you have guys who are gonna be taking

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time off. You have guys that are going to get

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injured because somebody's gonna do something crazy.

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It's for guys.

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I think it's all elite wrestling.

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You know somebody's gonna get so usually that's like your

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your stop start moment. So when you stop something to

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start the next angles, you want to give it some

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time to kind of get some depth to the storyline.

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And we're seeing AAEW do a much better job of

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this over the last two months, of actually fleshing out storylines,

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creating interest, creating some character depth. I just you know,

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when you see them back to back so quickly, it's

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hard to kind of stop one angle, start another, and

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then have a payoff match two weeks later because you

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don't have time to build that up. I mean, they're

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obviously you know, if you're WWE, you can kind of

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do it now because you're doing shorter you know, you're

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doing smaller cards, so you can kind of have a show,

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you know, out of pay per view here, come back

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with another one a few weeks later and have an

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entirely different show.

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But aw, typically, you know, all this is.

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Probably gonna be fifteen matches in six hours long, so

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I'm pretty sure everybody's going to be on the show

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that wants to be on the show.

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Doctor Trey, keeping up here with all leid Wrestling, What

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did you think of Blooding Guts from last night's edition

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and Dynamite?

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I thought it was a release solid show, Like is

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there a little bit stuff that may be a little

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bit over the top, like lighting a man on fire?

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How many people can get handcuffed in one match? A

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little over the top, but really really fun. I had

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friends of mine in attendance. They had a great time there.

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I just I don't know if it's one of the

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better Blood and Guts matches, because there's still some ones

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from I think year one, other than the weird Jericho

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fall off the top. You know, some of the initial

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ones might have been able to better. But I thought

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it was a really really fun, entertaining blood and Guts show.

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Yeah. I thought the entire show is really good. Minora

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Suzuki Chris Jerico was a very fun match. The MJF

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well ost Spring segment to kick off the show was

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really well done. MJF is so much better as a

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heel than he ever will be at a baby face

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by far. The Blood and Guts match itself, I would

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say I enjoyed eighty percent of it. For still in

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the percentage range that we're thrown out there on this

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week's This of the podcast, I enjoyed eighty percent of it.

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I felt like there was some repetitive things that we've

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seen in previous Blood and Guts matches, and I felt

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the was anti climatic. In all honesty, I thought that

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it could have been a tad better the steel chair

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shot to Jack Perry from Mark Briscow has got a

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lot of buzz since it took place, because whether it

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was shaved down or not, people feel that you should

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not be getting smacked in the head with anything, which

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I am in agreement with. I would also say that

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it I have been a big stickler on their replays

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that they don't do in aw So Hangman Page and

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Swerve Strickland were taken out during the Picture and Picture

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commercial break stuff. And I don't know about you, Doctor Trey,

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but I don't sit around to watch, especially on a DVR.

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I don't sit around to watch the Picture and Picture,

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even if it's live. I get up, go to the bathroom,

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grab something to drink, eat whatever. I'm not watching Picture

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and Picture. How they don't come back and say and

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Swerve Strickland and Hangman Page just took each other out

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and then air that footage was beyond me. They said,

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EXCaliber mention it. So if you even mention, if you

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miss that live and walk back in and you're wondering

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where the hell'swerb of Strickland and Hangman Page was, you

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have no idea. But the finish just felt a little

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anti climatic. To me, I got to say they wanted

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Jack Perry to come off as defiant, they wanted the

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young Bucks to squeal a little bit, and I thought

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it could have been turned up a little bit more

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on both the execution of being rebellious from Jack Perry

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and turned up on the side of please don't do

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this to Jack Perry. We quit. So that's where I

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stood on the Blood and Guts match itself.

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Yeah, Like the finish, to me, I didn't like it because, ay,

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you have a heel, you have one hundred and sixty

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pounds heel trying to look to find that's a baby

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face move. And when you see the young Bucks basically

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kind of throwing in the towel to save their friend,

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that's kind of how babyfaces lose. I quit matches. It's

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to me, like lighting a man on fire. Threading to

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light a man on fire is kind of scrap me

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if I'm wrong. It's frowned upon in our Society's this

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kind of heel thing to do. So it's like the

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roles got reversed in the finish. So I don't know

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who produced that or whose idea that was, but to me,

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you know, like you have Jack Perry quit because I

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can look defiant. But then when you light the match, Okay,

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I was kidding.

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I was kidding. Iqu wit we quit.

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We quit into it that way instead of I mean,

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go back to the I quit match with Edge and

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the judgment day with the you know the best Phoenix angle.

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That's a well written one where the baby face still

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looks strong, the heels look like.

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You know, a holes.

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This one you kind of flip the script and you

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make the baby faces look like assholes and the heels

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look defiant. So I don't I don't really know what

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you're trying to accomplish with a finish like that.

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Yeah, again, eighty percent of that match was really well done.

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Some small things on the replay of what happened to

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Swerve and Hangman page why wasn't executed in the actual

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finish itself, which plays a major role in the match,

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was a tad anti climatic and maybe a touch rushed

473
00:24:05.880 --> 00:24:08.519
because they were on the overrun at that point on

474
00:24:08.839 --> 00:24:11.440
the TBS network. That's just something that I felt like,

475
00:24:11.480 --> 00:24:14.160
as if you were at home, that it felt anti

476
00:24:14.200 --> 00:24:17.279
climatic and potentially rushed, which is because why it was

477
00:24:17.279 --> 00:24:20.160
anti climatic, So I guess we'll never know unless something

478
00:24:20.200 --> 00:24:22.799
comes out in the Dirt sheets here in the coming

479
00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:25.759
days following the Blood and Guts match, Switching gears to

480
00:24:25.920 --> 00:24:29.039
WI some big news. Doctor Treys, a former WE champion,

481
00:24:29.079 --> 00:24:31.599
may be out of the on his way out of

482
00:24:31.599 --> 00:24:35.359
the company. That being one. Two time former w champion.

483
00:24:35.359 --> 00:24:39.319
Bobby Lashley Lastly was most recently on WE Television working

484
00:24:39.359 --> 00:24:41.920
with the Street Profits in bfab Is the Pride. They

485
00:24:41.960 --> 00:24:44.839
were fumed with the Final Testament going into WrestleMania, Lastly

486
00:24:44.960 --> 00:24:47.000
was taken off of TV, reportedly for an injury. He

487
00:24:47.039 --> 00:24:49.920
has not been back since. Along with him, the thought

488
00:24:49.960 --> 00:24:53.519
is that MVP Montel Vontavius Porter his contract will be

489
00:24:53.559 --> 00:24:56.640
running out as well. If there is a kind of

490
00:24:56.640 --> 00:24:59.200
a dark cloud black eye on the Triple H regime

491
00:24:59.599 --> 00:25:01.799
since ta and overcreative, I would say the one thing

492
00:25:01.880 --> 00:25:04.319
is he has not used MVP as well as he

493
00:25:04.359 --> 00:25:07.720
should have. MVP has been basically not used at all

494
00:25:07.799 --> 00:25:10.599
unless Omas makes his one or two appearances a year,

495
00:25:10.960 --> 00:25:12.839
and that is the only time when we see MVP,

496
00:25:13.400 --> 00:25:17.160
MVP and Bobby Lashley. All pun intended were MVPs of

497
00:25:17.200 --> 00:25:21.079
the pandemic era of professional wrestling in the WEE running

498
00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:23.839
hot there with the Hurt Business running his WE champion

499
00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:25.720
running is the top heel on the brand. Feud with

500
00:25:25.799 --> 00:25:28.759
Drew McIntyre along with Drew Mack, I felt like they

501
00:25:28.799 --> 00:25:31.559
really carried WWE during a very dark period of the

502
00:25:31.559 --> 00:25:34.839
world and professional wrestling as a whole. I don't want

503
00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:37.359
to see Bobby Lashley leave w I think that is

504
00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:41.000
where he is most valued in his career, will continue

505
00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:45.160
its assend and overall peak. And I also don't want

506
00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:48.920
to see MVP leave the company as well because I

507
00:25:48.920 --> 00:25:51.720
think again he could be utilized better. But that's the

508
00:25:51.759 --> 00:25:53.759
big news out of w right now. It appears that

509
00:25:53.799 --> 00:25:56.039
Bobby Lashley and MVP are on their way out of

510
00:25:56.079 --> 00:25:58.839
the company. It's possible that they may be reforming the

511
00:25:58.920 --> 00:26:03.960
Hurt Business during the in another promotion, whether it be TNA,

512
00:26:04.039 --> 00:26:08.079
whether it be aw MLW, what have you your thoughts

513
00:26:08.119 --> 00:26:10.319
as a former w champion may be on his way

514
00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:11.000
out of the company.

515
00:26:11.200 --> 00:26:11.400
Yeah.

516
00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:13.119
The weird thing for me when it comes to Bobby

517
00:26:13.200 --> 00:26:18.000
Lashley is I really only liked Bobby Lashley once in

518
00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:22.440
his entire career, and that was when the Almighty Gimmick

519
00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:23.559
started with MVP.

520
00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:25.039
It's the only time.

521
00:26:25.559 --> 00:26:29.079
I was like, this is Bobby Lashley at peak Bobby

522
00:26:29.160 --> 00:26:34.119
Lashley everything else. He's not the best talker in the world.

523
00:26:34.759 --> 00:26:37.519
He has a little bit of the Apollo Cruse smile

524
00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:41.319
at times it kind of comes off Tony. He's a

525
00:26:41.359 --> 00:26:45.519
wonderful h been being from everything I've I've heard, but really,

526
00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:49.359
in the what twenty years he's been around wrestling, I've

527
00:26:49.359 --> 00:26:53.319
only liked him one So it's not a big loss

528
00:26:53.359 --> 00:26:55.200
to me if they decide to let him go. The

529
00:26:55.319 --> 00:27:01.119
MVP thing like WWE does not value managers, so losing

530
00:27:01.319 --> 00:27:04.279
MVP on one hand, personally I think sucks because I

531
00:27:04.279 --> 00:27:06.799
think he's a great mouthpiece. The stuff he was, the

532
00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:09.559
work he did with Lastly and the Hert business was fantastic.

533
00:27:09.640 --> 00:27:12.559
The work he did early on with Omas was fantastic.

534
00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:17.200
So but it is kind of a black cloud that

535
00:27:17.799 --> 00:27:21.680
people were clamoring for a return of the Hert business.

536
00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:24.720
And basically, now if MVP and Lashley are out of

537
00:27:24.720 --> 00:27:27.480
the company, three fourths of the Hurt business is gone.

538
00:27:27.519 --> 00:27:29.519
The only one left is said, and he's.

539
00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:33.839
Done an NXC hanging out with Ashante Viadanas, who you know,

540
00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:37.799
hasn't really done anything since AJ Francis and Swerve left,

541
00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:38.960
So there you go.

542
00:27:39.440 --> 00:27:43.000
See. I was really enjoying Bobby Lashley in this role

543
00:27:43.039 --> 00:27:45.799
with the Pride, and specifically I felt like his character

544
00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:49.160
was a little bit more heelish, and they were certainly

545
00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:52.599
trying to push the heel motive there, but the fans

546
00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:55.799
like Bobby Lashley in the Street Profit so much that

547
00:27:55.839 --> 00:27:58.079
they had to keep them baby Face like that heel

548
00:27:58.200 --> 00:28:01.240
run where they were like taking out THEO and laying

549
00:28:01.279 --> 00:28:04.400
out Ray mysterio because he's the beloved Babyface lasted like

550
00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:06.559
maybe a month at best, and the fans were still

551
00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:09.519
cheering for them. It's funny that you say that you

552
00:28:09.519 --> 00:28:12.960
think Bobby Lashley leaving WWE is not a big loss

553
00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:16.559
for them. I'm of the opposite of this. But the

554
00:28:16.599 --> 00:28:18.960
more I think about it, the usage of MVP, and

555
00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:22.960
I guess, in a way, the potential usage of Bobby Lashley.

556
00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:25.640
I go back to two years ago when Triple H

557
00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:29.079
took over the books from after Vince had his retirement

558
00:28:29.480 --> 00:28:33.200
very briefly, and there were people who were excited that

559
00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:34.960
were Triple H people, and there are people who were

560
00:28:35.039 --> 00:28:38.680
not excited that were like Vince people. Do you think

561
00:28:39.319 --> 00:28:43.480
that MVP and Bobby Lashley were more people that fit

562
00:28:43.880 --> 00:28:48.160
Vince's ideology for creative than Triple H does, which is

563
00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:52.839
I guess true, but shocking If that is the case.

564
00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:56.680
I think Lashly is totally a Vince guy. I mean

565
00:28:58.160 --> 00:29:01.799
literally headlined to WrestleMania with lash Lee, you know, in

566
00:29:01.880 --> 00:29:06.000
Omaga and Vince and Trump. I mean every time Vince,

567
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:09.440
everyone lashes in the company with Vince there, he got

568
00:29:09.599 --> 00:29:12.519
featured roles, like in a lot of ways he was

569
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:14.839
going to be. At one point you met early on,

570
00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:17.200
he was supposed to be the African American John Cena.

571
00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:19.640
Well that's how Vince had visioned him.

572
00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:21.640
Can I pause you there for just a second. Yeah,

573
00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:25.160
you're making up a really good point. And the way

574
00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:29.480
Lashley left WUE left a bad taste in people's mouth,

575
00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:31.839
like he wasn't back in the company for what like

576
00:29:32.200 --> 00:29:33.640
ten years, eleven years?

577
00:29:35.559 --> 00:29:37.519
Yeah, No, It's one of those things where like and

578
00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:39.480
then when he came back, it was like.

579
00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:42.799
Right back into that upper card.

580
00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:43.799
Made a Vince spot.

581
00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:46.240
When Vince's there, and every time, you know, there's that

582
00:29:46.400 --> 00:29:49.400
time when Vince left, Triple Ace took over, it kind

583
00:29:49.400 --> 00:29:51.319
of slid back down the card a little bit, and

584
00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:53.480
then when Vince came kind of came back to that

585
00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:54.359
brief little.

586
00:29:54.119 --> 00:29:56.559
Window, he was right back at the top.

587
00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:59.839
Of the cart. And I think there's two different visions

588
00:29:59.880 --> 00:30:02.279
for Lashly when it comes to a Vince kind of

589
00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:02.799
saw and.

590
00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:04.559
What Triple A saw and Triple Ah.

591
00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:07.119
I think for him he looks for guys who can

592
00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:09.079
you talk the full more of the full package?

593
00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:09.720
Can you talk?

594
00:30:09.799 --> 00:30:12.200
Can you cut a promo? Can you have good in

595
00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:13.880
ring work? Lash He's in ringwork.

596
00:30:13.880 --> 00:30:16.480
It is much better now than it was a decade ago,

597
00:30:16.519 --> 00:30:18.400
but he's just never caught up.

598
00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:20.880
His best promo work is when he's a heel.

599
00:30:21.400 --> 00:30:23.240
He doesn't come off as a very good good guy,

600
00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:26.000
and I think Triple As just looks at him as,

601
00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:29.920
you know, an upper mid card guy and just doesn't

602
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:31.400
value him as much as maybe Vince did.

603
00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:34.759
So the reports are saying that MVP's contract I think

604
00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:38.559
expires mid August, and I think lastly maybe end of August,

605
00:30:39.079 --> 00:30:41.799
and there is this opening, there's this window a W two.

606
00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:44.799
We made an offer to Bobby Lashley. Bobby Lashley didn't

607
00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:46.799
like the offer. He wanted to go out to market

608
00:30:46.839 --> 00:30:49.640
and see if it would there's anything comparable or it

609
00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:52.559
could obviously beat the offer from WEE. So with that said,

610
00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:55.079
and things can change in the next thirty to forty

611
00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:59.839
five days come September one, Doctor Trey, Where do you

612
00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:03.559
think think Bobby Lashley and MVP are working for in

613
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:04.839
the world of professional wrestling?

614
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:11.160
I typically think Lashly will end up back in WWE.

615
00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:14.319
MVP's more of the toss up to me because he

616
00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:16.440
has ties in New Japan. If you have ties in

617
00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:21.640
New Japan, that gives you ties to AW. But it's

618
00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:24.079
just like, I think MVP might be better fit in

619
00:31:24.119 --> 00:31:27.599
AW because I do need more producers, more people that

620
00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:29.319
can kind of help streamline storelines.

621
00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:33.400
MVP has a relationship with Chris Jericho, although.

622
00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:35.880
It's been very bumpy. They've ironed things out as well.

623
00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:39.039
Have they ironed things out? I thought it was very bumpy.

624
00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:41.000
It was very bumpy.

625
00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:44.559
I think Jericho on his podcast came out and said,

626
00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:47.079
this has been maybe a year or so ago that

627
00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:52.759
they had a talk and kind of hashed some things out.

628
00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:57.799
But to me, MVP is a better New Japan voice AD.

629
00:31:58.079 --> 00:32:00.960
I just don't think ww' values outside Paul Hayman, they

630
00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:03.799
really don't use managers very well.

631
00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:05.079
In WWE.

632
00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:09.079
I think lastly an MVP end up in TNA. I

633
00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:13.119
think that is a place that utilizes those skills, their

634
00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:16.640
skills better. I mean, MVP has been on the bench

635
00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:20.279
basically for two years. OMAS hasn't been used only except

636
00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:23.160
for like the Royal Rumble in an occasional match, which

637
00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:26.160
is that booking is like really bizarre and I'm not

638
00:32:26.279 --> 00:32:30.640
like this OMAS stand but for him to like completely disappear,

639
00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:34.119
it's like wow, like there's nothing for him there, just

640
00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:39.000
waiting out his contract. So I would like lastly an

641
00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:42.079
MVP to be in WE, but I think they ultimately

642
00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:44.000
end up in TNA because I think that is probably

643
00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:47.039
the place that utilizes their skills the best, and I

644
00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:48.519
don't think they end up in AW.

645
00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:52.519
Here's my question by the time these contracts expire is

646
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:55.279
here's I bet to ask you this earlier and maybe

647
00:32:55.319 --> 00:32:58.799
a weeks past. With all this crossover with CNA and

648
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:01.759
NXT and everything else, do you feel like there's some

649
00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:02.240
kind of.

650
00:33:03.960 --> 00:33:06.799
Remember the wwec WW.

651
00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:10.039
Is like funneling some money in to ECW to use

652
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:10.680
some of their guys.

653
00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:12.119
Do you feel like that might be kind of the

654
00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:13.839
same thing they're doing now with TNA.

655
00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:17.519
Because you know, it's the younger guys they're using, whether

656
00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:20.839
it's Joe, the Joe, Henry's, the Jordan Grace is, the rascals,

657
00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:25.160
people like that they're not using the Hardys, the Mooses,

658
00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:28.240
the nick name us those guys. I wonder if there

659
00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:31.559
is some kind of money filtering thing going back and

660
00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:34.480
forth to what this working relationship actually works out, because

661
00:33:34.480 --> 00:33:36.119
otherwise it's like if you're TNA, like, why aren't you

662
00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:36.880
using our top guys?

663
00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:39.039
Why are you using the middle guys?

664
00:33:39.119 --> 00:33:41.519
It's just if you go to TNA, if you're lastly,

665
00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:43.680
are you really going to TNA or are you going

666
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:45.759
to like now a WW subsidiary?

667
00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:50.720
I hear you. And I think in like twenty years ago,

668
00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:53.480
when it wasn't a publicly traded company, that we could

669
00:33:53.480 --> 00:33:55.480
sit there and have those conspiracy theories of like this

670
00:33:55.559 --> 00:33:58.519
is another situation in ECW, but being that they are

671
00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:01.720
publicly traded, I mean, I think those are things that

672
00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:07.160
they would have to show up on their on their sheets, right, I.

673
00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:09.039
Mean there are ways of kind of hiding things as

674
00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:10.480
like marketing expenses.

675
00:34:11.840 --> 00:34:15.039
Oh of course, there's a way to hide things in budgets. Yeah,

676
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:17.639
I just feel like that maybe it would be a

677
00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:20.320
little bit more known. I thought, which we discussed like

678
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:23.280
a month ago, I really thought w W was on

679
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:24.960
the verge of purchasing TNA Wrestling.

680
00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:28.000
Yeah, I mean, I still I'd love it to happen,

681
00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:29.920
because it still it was still one of my bull

682
00:34:29.960 --> 00:34:32.880
predictions that you kind of chuckle that line in December

683
00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:35.880
is like, oh crap, it's who we're eight months in.

684
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:38.639
It's actually really close to fruition if that's the route

685
00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:38.920
to go.

686
00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:43.480
So yeah, the the TNA NXT w WI relationship is

687
00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:46.519
really interesting because they're just using Joe Hendry. They're just

688
00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:50.800
they've used Kaz, They've used the Rascals obviously. That's very

689
00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:55.599
poignant on who NXT is utilizing and then and vice versa,

690
00:34:55.719 --> 00:34:58.440
like TNA's had no quart to catch crew. They had

691
00:34:58.480 --> 00:35:03.280
Wesley working with the Rascal at Slammiversary. I think is

692
00:35:03.320 --> 00:35:09.119
he Dame was in there? Oh god, who's the character

693
00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:11.280
that was chasing round Libra Valkyrie for a while now

694
00:35:11.360 --> 00:35:16.199
is chasing Kalanie Jordan. She's great. Oh her name escapes me.

695
00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:20.559
She's actually engaged to hoveyar Bro now. Because I'm not

696
00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:25.559
getting enough sleep. Tatum Pasley, Yes, she's phenomenal. I really

697
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:29.840
enjoy her stuff. She was working there. Obviously, Jordan Grace

698
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:34.039
Ashby Elegance also known as Daniel Brook made appearances or

699
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:40.920
work w W. That whole relationship is interesting, and I

700
00:35:41.000 --> 00:35:44.159
don't know, I don't know if w W is giving

701
00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:46.360
them money, and I just feel like w W has

702
00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:51.840
has isolated who they want to sign should their contracts

703
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:54.119
come up, and TEENA is like, yeah, no, I mean,

704
00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:56.639
if you want to sign these guys when their contracts over, great,

705
00:35:57.039 --> 00:35:59.199
but in the meantime, like, let's let's use this for

706
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:02.519
our publicity, which I think TNA's had a lot of

707
00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:05.119
great buzz because of NXC, more buzz than anything that

708
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:08.239
I ever saw when they were working with AAW. Granted

709
00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:12.119
that was the pandemic era, but I mean I watched

710
00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:15.480
highlights and clips from Stammiversary. That crowd was red hot,

711
00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:18.000
and maybe it was red hot previously Doctor Trey. I'm

712
00:36:18.039 --> 00:36:20.559
not watching TNA on a regular basis, but I look

713
00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:22.880
at that and I go, are people getting really excited

714
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:24.920
about TNA because of the stuff that they're doing with NXC,

715
00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:25.880
and we as.

716
00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:30.360
Well, Yeah, I think it's it's a really interesting dynamic

717
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:32.840
and how this is working out because it does feel

718
00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:34.599
like I don't know if I like I look at

719
00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:37.840
who each show is using, and I'm like a lot

720
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:40.639
of the WW like the people that are working from TNA,

721
00:36:40.679 --> 00:36:45.719
that are working NXC are very much sports entertainers, where

722
00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:49.320
TNA is using much more of the traditional wrestlers.

723
00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:53.320
In a sense what it is kind of genering cross ropers.

724
00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:56.760
I literally saw a video today of Dorlan's things running

725
00:36:56.800 --> 00:37:00.480
back Jamal Williams singing the Joe Henry song at the

726
00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:03.800
start A training camp. So there is buzz out there

727
00:37:03.880 --> 00:37:06.639
about today because of this carouser of the NXC, and

728
00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:09.400
it's allowing, you know, people to get an eye on

729
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:12.199
the product. So once again, if they're putting it in

730
00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:16.360
as a marketing budget, it's a marketing expense. Maybe they

731
00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:19.519
are they're a little money crossing lines here.

732
00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:23.320
Yeah, it's it's intriguing. It's intriguing stuff that's going on there.

733
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:27.239
And it's very funny how we naturally like got there

734
00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:30.880
talking about Bobby Lashley stuff. So who knows, we'll see

735
00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:32.880
what's going on with Bobby Lashley. I was very shocked

736
00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:34.280
to hear that he may be on his way out

737
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:37.320
of Dodoo we MVP not so much. I think they

738
00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:39.519
missed the boat the last two years of MVP. They

739
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:42.760
should have been utilizing him. And I think Bobby Lashley

740
00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:45.119
has been utilized well under the Triple Ah regime, but

741
00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:48.199
maybe not to the degree or extent that Bobby Lashley

742
00:37:48.280 --> 00:37:52.000
was hoping for when he was working under Vinsic Man previously.

743
00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:55.760
The last thing I want to bring up here, Doctor Trey,

744
00:37:56.400 --> 00:37:59.079
and I hate to sound like repetitive here a broken

745
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:02.119
record each week, but it's a very positive broken record.

746
00:38:03.400 --> 00:38:06.719
At the end of Blood and Guts last night, watching

747
00:38:06.840 --> 00:38:09.000
wrestling this past week, all I could think about to

748
00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:12.320
myself is, like, the last four to five weeks, wrestling

749
00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:16.840
as a whole has been completely on fire. Everything in

750
00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:21.039
we has been really entertaining. Aw has been very entertaining.

751
00:38:21.559 --> 00:38:24.920
The stuff with TNA is working out really really well.

752
00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:28.519
What are some of your favorite things in wrestling right now?

753
00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:30.960
Like you look back at this last month, what are

754
00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:33.480
some of your favorite things? And do you agree with

755
00:38:33.519 --> 00:38:36.960
me that wrestling as a whole is on fire lately?

756
00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:39.840
Yeah, wrestling's been really result.

757
00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:43.559
I I saw some comment there yesterday about the NXT show,

758
00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:46.519
like how good was NXT and it didn't have Oba

759
00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:51.480
Feme Roxane Perez and there was somebody else they had mentioned.

760
00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:53.360
I was like, damn, that's if you can put on

761
00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:55.239
a hell of a show and not.

762
00:38:55.320 --> 00:38:59.159
Have those three on it, that's a damn show to me,

763
00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:02.000
Like a ross, you know, the three shows Like right now,

764
00:39:02.039 --> 00:39:04.239
I mean I just mentioned Joe Henry is so much

765
00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:07.000
fun to watch, Like, this whole thing right now, no

766
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:10.159
matter if it's on DNA, if it's on NXC.

767
00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:15.760
Is really fun and it's really catchy, you know me.

768
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:18.360
Personally, also seeing the Rascals show up an NXC, like

769
00:39:18.400 --> 00:39:21.639
I know how much that meant to those guys, Like

770
00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:24.079
for Zach and Trade to show up on NXT to

771
00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:26.000
work there and be back with Wes.

772
00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:28.559
The stuff with.

773
00:39:28.679 --> 00:39:33.519
Sammy, Helia and Braun, I've been enjoying that. The the

774
00:39:33.559 --> 00:39:36.119
stuff with the New bloodline's been really good. This whole

775
00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:39.119
thing where they're just gonna take out anybody that Cody

776
00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:41.679
Road associates with is an.

777
00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:43.159
Interesting take leading into SummerSlam.

778
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:47.960
Becaues that mean Roman shows up to back Cody at SummerSlam,

779
00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:51.119
Like is that where we go with this? Seeing the

780
00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:56.119
stuff with you know, the Live Rhea jay Usso or

781
00:39:56.199 --> 00:39:56.880
dom stuff.

782
00:39:56.920 --> 00:39:59.280
All that stuff's been really good. AW.

783
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:01.800
This stuff like the Learning Tree and the stuff with

784
00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:03.760
I mean, we had to see Minora. We've got to

785
00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:07.880
see Shabbat or Shabbata come out and say Menora stooky

786
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:12.199
the other night. Like that's you know for New Japan

787
00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:16.199
fans and and those diehard fans, like that's dream scenario stuff.

788
00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:20.159
MJF and osprays bit is gonna be good. You know,

789
00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:22.920
MJF going to use the trash can to dump the

790
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:27.639
international title the other night and pull out the American title. Uh,

791
00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:32.079
it's a little bit trumpish in a way, I thought, Uh, Like.

792
00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:34.079
It's just been so good across all the stuff.

793
00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:37.920
I mean, Punk McIntyre Rawlins has been really really good

794
00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:40.360
and entertaining, like there's and it's just.

795
00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:43.519
Across even the stuff with you know Gable and the

796
00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:44.960
White Gable.

797
00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:46.719
And the Creeds and the Ya six, but then filtering

798
00:40:46.719 --> 00:40:49.519
into the stuff with Otis and Tazow and you know,

799
00:40:49.719 --> 00:40:52.639
Xavier Woods and New in the Final Testament. Like the

800
00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:57.400
way they're intermingling stories and connecting things has been good

801
00:40:57.440 --> 00:40:59.840
across all boards. And you know, AW has been on

802
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:02.119
like with their storytelling right now, has.

803
00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:02.880
Been top notch.

804
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:08.519
A couple of you know, questionable booking decisions during the matches,

805
00:41:08.559 --> 00:41:13.119
but I mean Mercedes Monette has back up now and

806
00:41:13.679 --> 00:41:16.559
Camille you know against Britt Baker, Like that's gonna be

807
00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:19.039
interesting to see how that plays out. Like it's just

808
00:41:19.079 --> 00:41:23.679
been really, really good. It's I think to me, like

809
00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:27.400
right now a lot of it is filtering out from

810
00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:29.559
what the rock was here and then honestly, that Joe

811
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:32.800
Henry stuff has been has been kind of catching fires,

812
00:41:32.840 --> 00:41:35.360
so it's kind of hard to discount him as well.

813
00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:38.960
Yeah, it's it's insane what's going on professional Rattler right now.

814
00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:41.719
It's been so much fun. And I feel like each promotion,

815
00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:43.920
going back to the original discussion at the top of

816
00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:47.119
the podcast with the Warner Brothers Discovery discussions and the

817
00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:49.119
TV deals and stuff like that, we need to be

818
00:41:49.239 --> 00:41:52.920
rooting as a collective, whether your TEAMMAW or if you're

819
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:55.000
an enemy of AW for some reason, like we all

820
00:41:55.039 --> 00:41:57.280
should be rooting for them to get a good deal

821
00:41:57.320 --> 00:41:59.800
because they're feeding off one another right now, and that's

822
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:02.519
what we need in professional wrestling. And it's been so

823
00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:07.000
much fun. The Bloodline saga heating up under Solosicoa's regime

824
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:12.360
on SmackDown. I'm thoroughly enjoying the La Night Logan Paul build.

825
00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:17.239
I'm thoroughly enjoying the tag team title picture while rather

826
00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:20.440
small right now on SmackDown with diy and a Town

827
00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:24.320
down Under. I'm enjoying the main event picture in the

828
00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:27.320
men's division on Raw. Maybe my favorite thing in all

829
00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:30.000
professional wrestling right now because it is going so many

830
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:33.000
different directions in so many different ways that I have

831
00:42:33.079 --> 00:42:36.159
no idea how it's going to pan out. Within a

832
00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:39.679
couple of weeks. Damian Priest is now getting baby face reactions.

833
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:42.320
The match with gun Through, where on paper it looks

834
00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:45.360
like two heels going at it, is being built really

835
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:48.519
really well. That segment to open up Raw on Monday

836
00:42:48.760 --> 00:42:51.360
was awesome. It showed that they hate each other, and

837
00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:55.119
Guntherro is making Damian Priest, who was like this hated heel,

838
00:42:56.440 --> 00:43:01.519
look very relatable to the i'm A wrestling fans calling

839
00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:04.519
him like trailer park trash for working his way up

840
00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:07.519
from the bottom to the top and you know, having

841
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:11.079
a dream of becoming we champion, which wasn't gun Thro's

842
00:43:11.119 --> 00:43:14.280
dream for some reason, is really well done. The Drew

843
00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:17.920
McIntyre Cmpunk Seth Rollins match at Summerstam. I'm really looking

844
00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:20.039
forward to because the old school wrestling fan and me

845
00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:24.000
immediately thinks of Summerstam ninety seven where it was Sean

846
00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:27.920
Undertaker and Brett Brett versus Taker, Sean working as the

847
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:30.360
special guest referee, and that was a lot of fun.

848
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:33.559
That was old school to me. That was like stuff

849
00:43:33.559 --> 00:43:37.159
that I really love seeing. NXT has been hitting a

850
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:39.760
really good solid strike right now. There was a period

851
00:43:39.840 --> 00:43:41.960
of time where that was a show that you could

852
00:43:41.960 --> 00:43:44.400
probably miss from the w side of things, and it's

853
00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:47.559
not lately like they are going back to their roots

854
00:43:47.559 --> 00:43:50.199
and that's a lot of fun. Brooks Jensen Josh Briggs

855
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:53.400
had a very fun match on NXC this past week.

856
00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:57.000
That storyline has been a lot of fun. Aw's overall

857
00:43:57.079 --> 00:44:00.320
build to All In is exactly what I've been looking

858
00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:03.880
for as a fan of professional wrestling with AW the

859
00:44:03.960 --> 00:44:06.639
last couple of years is give me a great build

860
00:44:06.760 --> 00:44:09.599
to a good show, and I'm in it. I want

861
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:11.639
to watch it. I don't care if there's eleven or

862
00:44:11.639 --> 00:44:14.360
fifteen matches whatever Tony Kahin wants to put out there.

863
00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:17.960
You've got to make me want to understand why wrestler

864
00:44:17.960 --> 00:44:20.599
A is fighting wrestler B. And they're doing that right now.

865
00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:24.920
Top to bottom everything between has been so much fun.

866
00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:31.519
And I don't know, man, I don't remember a time

867
00:44:32.079 --> 00:44:35.840
in the history of the podcast where wrestling is firing

868
00:44:36.239 --> 00:44:40.840
on this many cylinders Right now. It's really exciting. It's

869
00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:45.880
a lot of fun. And I don't want to call

870
00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:48.639
it an attitude era, esk A golden era, because we've

871
00:44:48.639 --> 00:44:51.239
been down there that passed so many times, Doctor Trey.

872
00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:54.559
But I think this time period what we're seeing here

873
00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:57.679
maybe like from two thousand and two or twenty twenty two,

874
00:44:57.679 --> 00:45:01.119
excuse me to now. It may be part of this

875
00:45:01.320 --> 00:45:03.599
error of professional wrestling that has been so good. Obviously,

876
00:45:03.639 --> 00:45:06.239
there's been some bumps in the road with AW, there's

877
00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:08.840
been bumps in the road with w WE previously as well.

878
00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:14.679
TNA is really performing well. There's some exciting stuff going on,

879
00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:16.639
at least in the short term. In the last like

880
00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:20.159
four to six weeks, every time I've watched a wrestling show,

881
00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:23.639
for the most part, minus like rampage and parts of collision,

882
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:26.280
No disrespect to AW, We're not there yet, but we're

883
00:45:26.320 --> 00:45:29.280
getting there. I'm like this is great, This is a

884
00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:31.119
ton of fun, and this is what I'm looking for

885
00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:33.760
in a professional wrestling fan. And I think it's because

886
00:45:33.840 --> 00:45:38.719
all the promotions WWE, AW TNA that're all feeding off

887
00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:40.559
of one another right now here in the United States.

888
00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:43.719
Yeah, I mean it's a little bit of it.

889
00:45:43.880 --> 00:45:45.679
To kind of relate it, it would be like, you know,

890
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:46.960
kind of like back in the day when you.

891
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:48.880
Had the Sopranos and then breaking badly.

892
00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:51.559
You know those kind of shows where it's like, yeah,

893
00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:53.440
they're their own separate empties, but they're still kind of

894
00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:54.719
pushing each other, like.

895
00:45:54.679 --> 00:45:56.679
You know, competing for ratings and things like that.

896
00:45:57.159 --> 00:45:59.079
It's also a little bit like you know in pro sports,

897
00:45:59.119 --> 00:46:01.360
like you know, Jeff the Yankees fan, when the Yankees

898
00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:04.599
and the Red Sox are both doing well and they

899
00:46:04.599 --> 00:46:06.960
push each other, and next thing you know, it's like, well,

900
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:08.960
the Yankees are in first, the rest Socks are in second,

901
00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:12.280
and there's a twenty game difference between second place and

902
00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:16.360
third place. Like it's iron sharpens iron. These guys are

903
00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:18.519
just feeding off each other. But it's making everybody show.

904
00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:20.760
I mean, it's it's making TNA be better, it's making

905
00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:22.039
MLW be better.

906
00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:23.480
I mean Jacob Faughto.

907
00:46:24.239 --> 00:46:26.840
His stuff he's doing on SmackDown is making people go

908
00:46:26.920 --> 00:46:30.599
back and watch MLW stuff, you know, the Joe Henry stuff,

909
00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:32.239
the Rascal stuff in the next seen is making people

910
00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:33.119
go watch TNA.

911
00:46:33.760 --> 00:46:35.199
You know, people go watch TNA and.

912
00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:37.199
They're like, oh, let me go check out CZW or

913
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:41.119
checkout Game Changer, you know, or or Wrestling Revolver one

914
00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:44.360
of these other shows that you know are affiliated because

915
00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:46.800
of the way that some of these other undersung you know,

916
00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:51.039
rests are being portrayed. It's it's feeding the frenzy that

917
00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:52.840
is kind of coming up, and you're seeing it now.

918
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:56.760
When you start seeing that crossover into mainstream, when you're

919
00:46:56.800 --> 00:47:00.199
seeing NFL running back singing the Joe Henry song, when

920
00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:02.400
you're seeing the T shirts pop up, when you're starting

921
00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:06.039
to see the musicians get involved, that's when we start

922
00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:08.360
getting into that Attitude era type stuff.

923
00:47:08.360 --> 00:47:09.559
Because that's what made.

924
00:47:09.480 --> 00:47:13.559
It more mainstream, is when it had that crossover appeal

925
00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:17.360
and people didn't have to hide under a bush to

926
00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:20.119
tell you how much they believe in Joe Hendry. You know,

927
00:47:20.199 --> 00:47:22.440
it's out there in the open and everybody's like, oh,

928
00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:24.199
what's that. I gotta go check that guy out, or

929
00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:26.880
I gotta check these guys out, or what seem punks

930
00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:30.079
back in wbe's you and Drew McIntyre and sets wearing

931
00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:32.239
these outrageous outfits and there's gonna be a summer sliming.

932
00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:33.320
I gotta check this stuff out.

933
00:47:33.440 --> 00:47:36.440
It's what causes that environment to kind of swell up

934
00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:38.159
and make everybody take notice.

935
00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:41.119
So doctor try and let's let's give a little bit

936
00:47:41.159 --> 00:47:43.360
of a preview here. So on next week's podcast, we

937
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:47.000
will preview and predict w SummerSlam, the former biggest party

938
00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:49.039
of the summer. I don't know if they're calling that

939
00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:54.440
that anymore. You mentioned before the bloodline saga, Roman Reigns,

940
00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:57.039
the Cody road stuff. Give us a little bit of

941
00:47:57.039 --> 00:47:59.360
a teaser right now? Are you and I talking about

942
00:47:59.480 --> 00:48:02.760
next week? Us thinking whether or not Roman Reigns makes

943
00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:04.119
his return in Cleveland, Ohio?

944
00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:10.639
Uh, I think it's yeah.

945
00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:14.360
I think I think we see Roman as SummerSlam in

946
00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:15.440
some way, shape or form.

947
00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:16.760
I agree with you right now.

948
00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:20.400
Yeah, I don't know if he does get involved in

949
00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:24.559
the match or but I guess he's solow like backstage

950
00:48:24.800 --> 00:48:28.119
and then a big truck, a big black suv rolls up,

951
00:48:28.119 --> 00:48:31.079
the window rolls down, and there's Roman, and that kind

952
00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:33.880
of shakes him for the main event, wondering if he's

953
00:48:33.880 --> 00:48:37.480
getting involved or or that goes. I don't I don't

954
00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:39.039
want to put say that he's gonna get involved in

955
00:48:39.119 --> 00:48:41.360
the match, but I do think Roman makes an appearance

956
00:48:41.880 --> 00:48:43.920
as some way, shape or form as SummerSlam.

957
00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:46.599
Yeah, I think it's something that results in a in

958
00:48:46.639 --> 00:48:50.880
a historic pop. I think when he comes back, it

959
00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:55.960
has to be in a major setting and stadium. And

960
00:48:56.039 --> 00:48:58.760
the only thing on the calendar right now from now

961
00:48:58.880 --> 00:49:02.360
until the end of the year is Cleveland, Ohio. I mean,

962
00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:07.039
that place will go absolute ape shit when his music hits,

963
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:09.360
like they are waiting for him to come back and

964
00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:11.639
they want him to come back, which is just wild

965
00:49:11.719 --> 00:49:13.480
because he was one of the biggest deals in wrestling

966
00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:17.599
four months ago. But people are ready and it's gonna

967
00:49:17.599 --> 00:49:22.000
be really telling who main events Summer Slam in a

968
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:23.880
couple of weeks or next Sunday.

969
00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:27.639
I think Cody and Solo main event. I think I

970
00:49:27.679 --> 00:49:31.639
think Roman makes the save of Cody. I think Cody wins,

971
00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:33.639
and I'm giving away by prediction. I think Cody wins

972
00:49:33.679 --> 00:49:36.800
the match. There's a Bloodline beat down, and then Roman's

973
00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:41.000
music hits and just gets that massive pop, strolls down

974
00:49:41.039 --> 00:49:43.079
to the ring and the Bloodline just kind of scatters,

975
00:49:43.079 --> 00:49:45.159
and there's Cody and Roman standing in the ring face

976
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to face to end the show.

977
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Well, that is where we will end this week's edition

978
00:49:48.960 --> 00:49:50.400
of the podcast with a little bit of a teaser

979
00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:54.119
the Summer Slam preview on next week's edition of SRTU.

980
00:49:54.840 --> 00:49:57.400
So more on Summer Slam and everything that happens in

981
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between on next week's edition of sr to you. With

982
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that said, let's get a couple plugs and sponsored out

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991
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being said, what's going on in the one for world

992
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of dot Trey Franklin this week.

993
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Well, like Jeff said, you can follow me on Twitter

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997
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They just had the Shawn Shockgrabis Memorial Tournament last week,

998
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one by Chase Owens who wrestled four matches in one

999
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night for us, and he'll be back next Saturday for

1000
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us as well. It's great having you know, former iw

1001
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GP Tag Team champion in the building with us. But

1002
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more importantly, also go check out your local wrestling shows

1003
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so you two can find your stars up tomorrow that

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might be lit on fire today in your little well venue.

1005
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So there you go. Support all the great things that

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1009
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w Summer Slam. Until next week, have a great weekend

1010
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