Endeavor now owns WWE and is Jade Cargill WWE bound? | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #709 – 9/14/23

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It's stupid. Welcome everybody. Welcome
to this week's edition This Story, Real

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Fist Show, episodeber seven hundred and
nine for September fourteenth, two thousand and

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one to three. Welcome to this
week's edition of ass all ts you.

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I am one after show. I
am jet pack joined every single week point

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No soly, Doctor Gray Franklin,
Doctor Trey. We have a new owner

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of w W my friend. Yeah, and it's uh, you know,

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it's the name on the contract does
not say McMahon. So there's my throw

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back to two thousand and one since
we just had the anniversary of nine eleven.

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So there you go. Tied it
all together in a nice pretty bow.

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Uh. Meanwhile, I want,
by the way, have you checked

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out this show called Generation Gap?
No? What is that? It's a

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game TV show. Yeah, it's
a little TV game show. It's basically

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like grandparents and grandchild teaming up and
they'll throw up a picture or a clue

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about somebody from grandma's generation and the
kid has a guess and vice versa.

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I realize, I second, I'm
old because I know all the grandparent wants.

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I don't know any of these kids
wants, Like I don't know anybody

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at the VMA's. I don't know
anybody in the show. I don't know

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any's younger people anymore. So a
couple of things there, So a couple.

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So I had a friend text me
and my wife this week saying like,

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Hey, are you watching the VMA's, Like, uh, in Sync

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is on? And I my response
was, the VMA's are still a thing,

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like you know, like no,
no, and I don't care that

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in Sync is on. And then
literally a half an hour before we popped

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on the show. Here, I'm
sitting down and I follow my old high

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school on Instagram, and I'm scrolling
through Instagram and I see that they're promoting

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Spirit Week because it's homecoming week at
the end of the month, which is

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typical right for high schools. So
I'm looking and I'm seeing with the Spirit

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Week. Actually I still think I
have it up on my phone here,

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so let me sit here. Bear
with me for one second. This is

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great for radio. So Spirit Week
themes. Friday is our class color,

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which is purple, Thursday is Barbie
and Ken Day, Wednesday is Western Wednesday,

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and then Tuesday is decades and what
decade is everybody dressing up as the

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early two thousands, That is the
time frame when I graduated high school,

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Doctor Trey. Wait wait wait was
there a style in the early two thousands.

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I don't know. I know I
get made fun of by my younger

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friends by wearing car hearts. I
guess it would be baggy jeans. The

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image that they have is a flip
phone, which is just right for the

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time. Yeah, I'm I'm guessing
maybe like probably baggy jeans, maybe like

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corns, slipknot jerseys, like,
I don't know. Was that the cargo

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pants era as well? Yes,
yeah, I believe so. I mean

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because right now, like when I
was a kid, like you did not

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wear tight jeans, you did not
wear tight shorts, short shorts, and

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that is all the rate right now. I mean, I saw a kid

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the other day and he had some
of the shortest shorts on to show off

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show off his quads, and I'm
like, whoa, if this was me

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in high school, this would not
be happening. Like this was not the

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style back then. But this is
the same shit Like our parents said about

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our generation as well. I guess
I got I got one for you,

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because you're a Northeastern guy. I
was got gam this morning, I'll watch

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Good Morning America. You know,
my god year old, I know I

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want Michael Strahand. I had Rob
It Rob again. God Gerald my grandmother

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loved Michael Strand too. Yeah,
there you go. But they were showing

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there's a new Duncan Donnest commercial with
Ben Affleck, and I'm like, all

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right, you know, being a
guy that traveled the Northeast a lot,

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I can appreciate them Dunkin Donuts.
I like ben Affleck. And it's like,

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yeah, ben Affleck did commercial with
little Ice spice. Yeah, no

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idea. And I'm like, I'm
like, I don't like and they're like,

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yeah, that's a rapper. I'm
like, no, I don't.

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Like, I'm never like, never
heard of this person in my life.

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And they keep showing this woman with
like oranges colored hair, and I'm like,

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it looks like Nicki Minaje, Like
it looks like I'm like, that's

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a different person. Like I could
not figure it out for like, But

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then I'm like, Okay, the
dunk the Duncan. Don't just lose me

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because you're putting peoples in commercials that
I have no clue who they are,

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so uh yeah, yeah, No, this is it. Welcome to it,

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And that's your your old. This
is your old. Hey, you're

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old. First five minutes of SRTU. That's gonna be a new segment we

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do each week. How Doctor Trey
and I go mine, We're old?

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What are those other podcasts called just
called Yelling at the Clouds? Yeah,

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no, that's the same thing.
And I guess the last thing. And

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he doesn't listen to this podcast,
but Doctor Trey used to listen to the

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podcast I was on. But I
was on a show called The Wheelhouse and

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it was my first time into podcasting
and what helped launch the Stell Reel Does

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show. It was back in two
thousand and nine, So that was fourteen

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years ago. Now. I got
a text from Mike Bauer earlier this week,

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who was one of the costs,
asking me, and he sent me

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a link and he said, hey, can you do a video causes Chris

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Cause was also co host. His
fiance is doing like all these videos from

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his friends to celebrate his birthday.
And I'm like, oh, yeah,

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no problem. Which birthday they are
we celebrating and he said his fiftieth.

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So fourteen years ago, Chris Cause
was my age when we first started doing

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the podcast that I am now.
I'm not thirty six, but I am

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thirty seven, And here he is
now now at fifty years old, and

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I'm sending him a video. So
life comes at you fast, doctor Trey.

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I'm just glad to know that Chris
causes older than me, so at

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least I have that, at least
there's somebody still out there in the world.

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Because you think about like fourteen years
ago, like you were twenty three

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getting into podcasting, you know,
and then now we're the grizzled veterans like

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we were at the point now where
people think that we're bitter and old and

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jaded. It's like, I think
you go back and listen to the early

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episodes of the show. I think
we still sound the same. Oh yeah,

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no, I think we're definitely more
positive. I would say we're I

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think we're just as equally as positive. But we used to be back then.

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To be honest with you, yeah, I mean yeah, because at

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that time, I think when we
first I wasn't in the wrestling business at

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all, so I could be super
negative and pissed off all the time.

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And now since I have, I
have all these friends floating around the independence

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and you know, the big time
wrestling stuff. I'm like, yeah,

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I don't want me too mean because
it may, you know, backfire against

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me. But you know, at
the end of the day, I've gone

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back and like my voices a little
bit deeper. But outside of that,

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like, yeah, I think we
were probably a little angrier in the early

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days as opposed to what we are
now. Definitely had a lot more energy.

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I gotta be honest, I had
definitely had a lot more energy.

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But that's what comes with getting old. You just start to slow down.

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Actually, last thing I'll bring up
about getting old, and this is your

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old moment to kick off this week's
session of the podcast I Heard. I

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listened to a podcast Baseball Today with
Chris Rose and Trevor Plufe. It's on

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the John Boy Media platform, and
they were talking about getting old, and

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Trevor Pluffmer MLB Baseball Players, said
that his grandmother once told him the older

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you get, the age that you
are represents like how many miles per hour

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it feels like you're going through life. And that's exactly that is like the

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greatest line I've ever heard about getting
old, because when you're a kid,

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it feels like you're in it forever, like can't wait to get out of

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school, like living in a world
where you you're not in school and you

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want to be an adult and all
this stuff, and like my first eighteen

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years of life felt like it went
by really really slow and greatest time in

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my life. And then afterwards it
just feels like it has zipped right through

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because even saying out loud, almost
fifteen years of starting in my podcasting career,

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fourteen years doing this podcast, it
has flown right by. My friends.

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Yeah, by the way where we
start this show, I had a

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two year old daughter. I now
have a junior in high school. There

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you go, so perfect way to
end at folks, this is old.

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That is how we're going to kick
off the podcast. Each week we're doctor

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trying to go. So, how
did you feel old this week? Have

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you ever heard of ice? Spice? I haven't. Let's get into some

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rest and talk. One thing that
I thought I would never see in the

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fourteen years of doing this podcast.
Near fourteen years of doing this podcast was

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the mcmahn family not owning Worldwisting Entertainment, and that has now officially happened this

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week as the w w e UFC
merger closed with Endeavor, and the new

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owner of WW is TKO Group Holding. It's WUFC all fallen under that umbrella

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and again owned by Endeavor. Devor
holds fifty one percent of controlling instruments in

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TKO and existing WW shareholders own the
other forty nine percent. Dana White is

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the CEO of the UFC, nicongoes
from WCO to President of w W,

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and Vince mcmahn is the executive chairman
of TKO. We talked about it when

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this deal was initially happening, Doctor
Trey. It has now since closed five

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months later. Thoughts on the McMahon
owned era coming to a close, Yeah,

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I mean, it's it's a mixed
bag for me. Like you know,

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when we started this podcast. Yeah, I would have never thought ownership

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of w W would have left the
McMahon family. I thought this was gonna

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be a family run business for generations
to come, like it would go to

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Triple Asian Stephanie or Shane and then
down to their kids and down to their

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kids and so on and so on. And then you know, we heard

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those rumblings a few years ago where
they were kind of shopping, especially when

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they went public, they were shopping
it around. We heard about Disney,

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we heard about a bunch of other
companies that were interested, you know,

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and it kind of brought that up
a little bit more. And then when

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Vince you know, had to leave
the company that you know last year,

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I was like, Okay, this
this is real now because as much as

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we liked Triple Asian, Steph like, he still had the controlling interests and

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we started hearing those rumors and everything
else, and it wasn't as shocking maybe

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if it had come out of Blue
the Blue like four or five years ago.

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But to stand in a world now
where the one wrestling company that's owned

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by a family is AW, it
is kind of odd to me, Like,

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you know, and you know,
Tony and shot Con own AW,

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but the McMahon's don't own WWE.
It's it's just a weird thing to kind

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of deal with. I guess that
this fossil falls into getting old and not

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being able to adjust, but it's
just awkward in a way. And I'm

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sure, like twenty years from now
and you and I are still recording the

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podcast in our eighties, we'll be
like your Ember Backwen Van's own WWE.

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Yeah, there's a long time it
will be used to it by that,

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but right now it's just it's just
weird. It is. It is weird.

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A lot of discussion about potential synergies
between both companies. Dana White was

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asked about I think the endeavor CEO
came out and said, like, the

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hope is that WE fans become UFC
fans, and UFC fans become WE fans.

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And they asked Danah White, They're
like, what are your thoughts on

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this, Like is that possible of
happening? And he completely shot on on

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it. He was like, no, I mean there are people who are

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like you are. UFC fans probably
won't be WE the majority of them,

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and WWE fans a majority of them
probably won't become UFC fans. And I

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enjoyed that honesty. I thought that
was great. I thought that was the

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right thing to say as well,
because we've talked about on the show.

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I'm a little bit more the MMA
fan. I'm not a huge MMA fan

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like I used to be, Doctor
Trey not interested in MMA at all.

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And when I'm like, hey,
Daniel Cormier is gonna be there or ron

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Da Rousey assigned with we I mean
nine times out of ten, Doctor Tree,

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You're like, Okay, who gives
a shit? Like these names don't

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resonate with you because again, you're
not a fan of the UFC. This

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is not something that you follow.
So I think Dan and White hit that

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spot on. Yeah. I mean
I remember years and years ago we first

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had a show. I was a
UFC fan because I liked the fact that

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they had kind of leaned into character
driven fight, Like the guys understood,

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Hey, if I kind of promo, it's gonna get me notoriety. And

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you look at like the Tito Ortiz, the Rampags Jackson's, the Chuck Liddell's,

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the Matt Hughes, the uh Saint
Pierre wasn't Saint Pierre? George h

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Pierre, I Kevin want to say
John. But those guys, you know,

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they kind of leaned into the WWF
promo style and you're like, you're

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you started investing more in these guys
because they were out there, they were

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making noise, and you know,
you look at for me, you know,

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the Ronda Rousies of the world,
Like Ronda I had heard of Ronda,

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you know, talk a New Interviews
and so like that, and just

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you know, on all this stuff. So when she came over, I'm

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like, all right, yeah,
maybe she can do good. Like I

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just kind of looked at it like
the Kurt Angle, Like some of these

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people have great footwork and they could
make the transition. But you know,

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the Daniel Cormier's, the John Jones
of the worlds, the Anderson Silva's,

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Yeah, I respect him as great
fighters, but I couldn't tell you what

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they sounded like. I couldn't tell
you anything about them. Really. The

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only exceptions that ruled for me right
now is Connor McGregor because he's loud as

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hell, so we hear of all
the time, and those are the guy

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and the guys that get notoriety.
So people like me typically, unless there's

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somebody that runs their mouth and catches
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it's not something that appeals to us. And the guys that are diehard UFC

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fans look at wrestling and go,
that's that fake stuff. I don't care

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about that. So you only occasionally
get those weird crossovers where I watched brock

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Lessner fighting in the UFC, and
I'm sure UFC fans watched Rodda Rousing in

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WWE, So you'll have those small
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it doesn't happen very often, but
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outside of that, I think we
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completely. So we'll see. I
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gonna be some sort of synergy at
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like Economic Director showing up in WE
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And I think if a UFC fighter
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all different types of genres and fan
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in a larger scale, the likelihood
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be greater because maybe ron Da Rowsy
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a meteoritic rise in the sporting world
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and faces in all of sports at
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is in on that UFC relationship and
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Maybe we run some sort of angle
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I mean WW stars have been at
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mean going back to you this show
starting about fourteen years ago. One of

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the big first stories we covered was
the Undertaker being at brock Lester's UFC fight.

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I believe he lost that fight,
maybe lost the championship, and the

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thing was Undertaker said to him like
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years later, like that was to
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and it just didn't happen at that
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of those like dog tilting your head
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Like what the hell is that all
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Is it going to be as frequent
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under the new ownership. No,
I don't believe. So. I think

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the bigger thing here is the business
model of w overall Doctor Trey, whether

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we recognize it or not, We've
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of their big name shows, even
some other B shows and air quotes into

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stadium settings and they're getting a great
reaction. They're getting a great crowd that

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appears to be part of the new
business model. And then I think the

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other thing that really doesn't affect fans
right now would be the TV deals coming

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up. There's a lot of discussion
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and that they may be going the
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H was sitting next to Jeff Bezos, Amazon CEO former Amazon CEO earlier this

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week in New York City, so
maybe there's something to that. And then

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folks are thinking that the fort ninety
nine right now for the shows that you

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watch on Peacock isn't going to be
a thing anymore, and that these shows

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are going to be expensive like UFC
style. So I don't know, everybody

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seems to have doom and gloom that
Endeavor is now owning WWE because it's the

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costs more for the consumer. I
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the current models being very successful and
it's paying off and huge dividends for the

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company into the growth that led to
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Yeah. I mean to me,
the way I look at is when

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you watch, when you look at
UFC, you get those fighters they get

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out losing the streets and you see
that they get cut try to save money.

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You have that contract. W is
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still think it's the budgets be a
little bit tighter, Like they're still gonna

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like have to, you know,
occasionally make cuts that don't seem popular.

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We saw it a couple of years
ago that was more about getting the company

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into the blacks so it can be
sold. But you know, I do

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think it's gonna be more run like
a business. And with that, there

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are gonna be times when they're gonna
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that we may not like. And
you know, if they change the model

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on the peacock and the network and
all of that stuff, I still think

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that's going to alienate some fans because
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day, wrestling fans, if demographically, probably make less money than UFC fans

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because UFC fans are paying out fifty
sixty seventy bucks for a fight. We

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don't have to do that. So
if they start trying to change stuff around,

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you might alienate some fans. But
the one thing UFC has been really

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good at is for a company that
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They've all always got really good television
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good in that aspect at least.
One of the things with the sale is

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we have seen that there's going to
be a hiring freeze that has been lifted

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this past Monday night. This was
on the original agenda for this week's edition

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the podcast. Naya Jack's returned to
we again second time this year, but

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this time now is a full time
performer interfering in the rear Ripley Raquel Rodriguez

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Championship match from Raw on Monday,
taking out both Raquel and Ria during that

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match. However, a big story
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in regards to the former TBS champion
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and this has been since updated.
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from Fightful Select that Jade Cargill wrapped
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Wednesday night, they taped a match
for Friday's Rampage. If you don't want

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to know the result, spoiler alert
right now spoiler alert, but Chris stat

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Lander defeats Jade Cargile clean to retain
the TBS championship, and then the story

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broke that she's leaving AW wh her
contracts is expiring and that the big belief

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is that she's going to WW.
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evening Thursday evening, as we record
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Wrestling, and according to Fightful,
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morning, has now provided more details. Cargile wrapped up her time with AWF

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the most recent taping of AW Rampage, where she was reportedly given a sendoff

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after a loss to AW TBS champion
Chris stat Lander. Cargo had recently returned

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to AW television after taking time off
all on Awble or Nothing and back in

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May, and now appears she'll be
heading to WWE, with reports suggestions she

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might be able to sign with WWE
imminently. However, the report also says

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Cargo has told some people she's leaving
AW to focus on our family and play

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softball. Cargo as possible signing was
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week, per Fightful, as many
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TBS champion when joined the company soon. Fightfel also noted that some top w

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stars had heard about her arrival as
far back as last week. Cargill reportedly

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had a has a team of represent
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jump to ww is said to not
be financially motivated, Doctor Trey. This

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would be the second big name to
go from AW to WWE, following Cody

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Rhodes. Say what you will.
We have been big critics, but we

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all believe in see the stock and
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This would be a big loss for
AW in my opinion, because she has

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been a homegrown star that I think
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the women's division once her TVs championship
title rene ended. She is someone that

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can cross from the wrestling world to
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Your thoughts here on the reports of
Jade Cardile leaving a w contract expiring

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heading to w E imminently. Now, these people who are handling her negotiations,

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are they speaking with you directly about
the softball tie in? Yeah,

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I don't know. I just got
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play on my team. She's gonna
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ed team. I know we would
welcome her with open arms because she is

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a former D one athlete. So
yeah, I'm all in on her joining

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my coed softball team. I heard
that. I immediately a thought of you.

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But yeah, I mean I heard
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It was a brilliant like I just
see her going. No, man,

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I ain't going back in the Resley. I'm not gonna ask me.

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I'm gonna play softball. Yeah,
why do I need these six figure contract

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I'm playing softball on Wednesday nights down
at the down in my backyard, at

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my parks and wrecked near my house. No, I'm not going to play

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the w NBA. I'm not gonna
go. I'm gonna play softball professionally.

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But there you go. I mean, yeah, you and I have been

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very critical, and I don't think
we're I know people think we were critical

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of Jade Cargill, but it's not
that, like she has all the building

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blocks of being a future star.
I mean, she's basically what Bianca bell

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Air was four years ago. It's
just that Bianca wasn't put in a National

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Spotlight four or five years ago,
she was in developmental getting better. And

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I think if that's the way they
go with Jade Cargill, it'll be good

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for her because she can kind of
develop under the Shawn Michael's you know,

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tutelage to become the next Bianca bel
Air or the next Ria Ripley who However,

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what you want to say is so
I think it's good for her in

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the long run. It is ironic
that, you know, these two people

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that we mentioned crossing over from AWS
WW were people that were in the WW

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system. You know, Cody much
longer, but Jade was one of those

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ones that they were recruiting and trying
to get her to come on board.

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And it's right, that's right before
she signed with AW. It was like

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they were both going there right to
sign her. I forgot about that,

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yeah, and so like, and
she kind of has some negative things to

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say about w. W is why
she didn't go there, But now she's

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making that move. Uh. It
does also go to show you the difference

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in the thought process of WW and
AW or ww's looking for people that are

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either young or in their prime or
things like that, and you know,

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we're seeing AW bring over guys who
are, you know, stars but maybe

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a little bit past their prime,
you know. So to me, on

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paper, it's a great move for
Jade, it's a great move for WB

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because this is just another foundational building
block for the women's division that could be

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around for as long as she wants
to be there. And it's a huge

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hit for AW. It just goes
to show like, look, that's the

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second person that you can I mean, Cody wasn't Homegirl, but Cody was

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an executive VP. And then you
have this woman that you brought up from

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basically nothing to make her the face
in this women's division and they both bail

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out on you. That's not a
good look for AW. So I it's

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for those people that love AW is
like, yeah, they're great and their

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schedules super easy. But those people
who want to be stars and want to

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be top draws are the ones who
are jumping back to WWE. Yeah,

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I think the opportunity to become a
bigger star outside of the wrestling world would

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be the WWW dimension rather than the
AW world that she's currently living in.

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It And unfortunately, maybe in five
years folks are able to step out of

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the AW shadow and become movie stars, actors, whatever, musicians, whatever

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they want to be. But to
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the type of person that is shown, at least on television by Jade Carkile.

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I think she's a very savvy businesswoman. I think she knows that there's

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a ton of value in her brand. Right, that's a trendy thing to

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say nowadays. There certainly is a
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has a world of potential. She's
not there yet. We again have been

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very critical of her matches, but
we always see the star power. I

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think my question here is I think
it's a no doubt solution here. Like

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Doctor Trey, there's no doubt in
my mind that w WE can elevate Jade

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Cargill to be, like you know, someone that is a movie star,

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actor, whatever she wants to be
outside of professional wrestling. I think they

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know that she can transcend, and
she knows that with WWE she can transcend

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outside of wrestling. But from the
wrestling aspect, do you think that they

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can take the weaknesses that Jade Cargill
has, polish it and make her a

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finer product that is of the ilk
of Charlotte Flair, Riah Ripley, Bianca

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bel Air, that becomes a better
female wrestler in you know, once they've

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signed for the next five years during
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I think they can. I mean
we see it now with what they're doing

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and when you see them bringing in
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and sums of some success and sums
and not. But you look at that

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Bianca Belair, who literally had never
touched a wrestling matt when she was signed

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to NXTE, and look where she's
at now, and she has a lot

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of the similar traits and physical skills
that Jay Cardle has. I think in

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WB she has a better chance of
becoming a top flight wrestler. But it

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all comes down to does she want
to put in the work and is she

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taking this deal for the money and
the notoriety and the potential to expand her

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brand or is she coming in to
become a better wrestler. And you know,

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I was telling me their day,
you can lead a horse to water,

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but you can't make it drink.
But at the same time, you

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don't want to show its head of
the la because it'll drown. So you

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just kind of gotta watch and see
what she does. I would be shocked

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if they bring her straight to the
main roster. I think she's gonna go

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to NXT first. I mean,
if she ends up with the main roster

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right now, like some of those, one of the main roster would embarrass

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her in the ring, she needs
time and NXC with a shan with.

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I don't know. I don't know
who's running the women's division training. I

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think Sarah Delray may be down there
still. I know, yeah, I

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know, I know Sarah Dolry was
do anybody else's know at one point when

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they were doing the coach's releases that
she was let go for a little bit.

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I know Alison Danger has been down
there doing Steve Credo's systems, has

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been down there helping on the training. But you go down there and work

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with those ladies, you're gonna become
a better wrestler. And I don't think

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AW as much as we love the
guys in AW for for their teaching methods,

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it's different to be a female wrestler
and learn from a top female wrestler

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00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:45.359
as opposed to a female wrestler learning
from another guy. It's a little bit

404
00:28:45.400 --> 00:28:48.519
different in that translation. That's an
interesting point, Like I think if there's

405
00:28:48.559 --> 00:28:52.319
one major glaring weak point in AW
right now is they don't have that filter

406
00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:59.079
system of a performance center or a
brand that you prepare for before going up

407
00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:04.079
to the quote roster. I do
think that is a glaring missing cog in

408
00:29:04.119 --> 00:29:07.559
the wheel of AW, and hopefully
they are able to address that at some

409
00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:11.079
point, because I think that would
help them greatly. Last question are on

410
00:29:11.119 --> 00:29:17.319
the Jade Cargill stuff and then we'll
switch gears to NXC. Actually is this

411
00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:22.559
a bigger loss for AW or a
bigger gain for WWW? I think it's

412
00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:26.079
a bigger gain for ww E than
a loss for AW. Like I like,

413
00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:29.119
people are gonna look at it and
think it's a big loss AW,

414
00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:33.920
But she wasn't. I mean,
she was big positioned to become the face

415
00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:36.960
of the women's division, but she
wasn't there yet. This women's vision is

416
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:42.000
you know Britt and and you know
so Rayah and Ruby Soho and you know

417
00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:48.200
those those people. Right now.
For ww it's a much bigger gain because

418
00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:53.440
the potential is there to build another
main event female star that could possibly headline

419
00:29:53.440 --> 00:30:00.880
a WrestleMania and get that crossover exposure. So I get the CE is higher

420
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:03.680
for W bringing Jake Cargill, in
that maybe the floor one for AW losing

421
00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:08.279
Jake Cargill. All right, let's
switch gears here to NXT. This past

422
00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:14.279
Tuesday night, Becky Lynch won the
NXC Championship from Tiffany Stratton in the main

423
00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:18.440
event. Tiffany Stratton is somebody that
we've often compared to as WWE's version of

424
00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:22.480
Jade Cargio, where there's like this
world of potential, but you could just

425
00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:26.799
tell that she's not a polished wrestler
yet and as a little bit green ironic

426
00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:29.799
enough, we go from Jade carter
Hill to Tiffany Stratton. I thought Tiffany

427
00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:33.200
Stratton held her own and had a
great match with Becky Lynch, probably the

428
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:37.279
best match I've seen from Tiffany Stratton
so far. But the question here,

429
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:41.079
Doctor Trey, is now, Becky
has has won all the women's championships in

430
00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:45.720
w she is completed the Grand Slam, but half of the titles in NXC

431
00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:52.960
are now held by quote non NXT
slash main roster talents. Dominic Masterio holds

432
00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:56.160
in North American Championship. Becky Lynch
holding The NXC Women's Championship tag titles are

433
00:30:56.400 --> 00:31:02.079
held by Tony di'angelone, Channy Sex, Lorenzo, and obviously the NXC champion

434
00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:07.079
is Carmelo Hayes. Do you like
this move that right now half the title

435
00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:11.240
holders in NXT are non NXT slash
main roster talents. NXC has been a

436
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:18.079
very solid show lately, maybe the
most underrated solid show that is on wrestling

437
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:22.640
today. Do you like this move
that they're putting their titles on main main

438
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:27.880
roster talents. I don't hate it. It's once again, this goes to

439
00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:33.559
the confusion we've had about NXT since
Triple H first took it over years ago.

440
00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:38.960
Is it developmental or is it a
third brand? And we've seen it

441
00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:44.680
kind of go back and forth throughout
this whole timeline where you know, for

442
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:48.440
a while, like you go back
was it three years ago? To where

443
00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:52.599
we you know, the plane right
from Hell getting back from Saudi Arabia and

444
00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:56.799
nxts on the main roster. We
go through vibors series with NXC versus Ron

445
00:31:56.839 --> 00:31:59.400
smacked at it, We're like this
is a third brand, They're legit,

446
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:04.480
and then boom, right after that, it's everybody's gone. It's straight developmental.

447
00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:07.839
I like it in the sense that
it is giving the rub and making

448
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:10.880
folks go check it out more.
I mean, the Becky Lynch episode was

449
00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:15.279
the highest rated Eggs T show they've
done in the last couple of years,

450
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:20.240
so it obviously brought eyes to the
program. So now they can see who

451
00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:22.480
a Tiffany Stratton is or they stuck. After the whole show, they saw

452
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:25.440
the entire roster for the most part, you know, they saw Baron Corban

453
00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:30.680
and bron Breaker going at it and
setting up their match. So it does

454
00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:34.680
help the brand get elevated, and
if that's what you're trying to do,

455
00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:38.119
is get it back to being maybe
not a third equal brand, but at

456
00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:45.240
least a slight notch below. Then
having the main roster people on their helps

457
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:47.119
out. And plus you look at
what's going on with the Judgment day on

458
00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:52.599
Raw. Seeing all the people in
Judgment they have title belts makes it look

459
00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:58.720
cool and you're not sacrificing Gunther's Intercontinental
title run just to mcdomin Mysterio look like

460
00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:02.359
he fits in. It's a way
to kind of elevate everybody around by doing

461
00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:08.839
these crossovers. Yeah, it's it's
an interesting idea by WWWE, and it

462
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:14.319
seems to be really paying off because
I think having the main roster talents on

463
00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:17.640
NXT is getting more eyes on the
brand, which is then getting folks that

464
00:33:17.720 --> 00:33:22.000
aren't watching NXT, which is something
we've always talked about in this podcast,

465
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:27.519
like how weren't people watching NXT back
in their glory days is beyond me,

466
00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:31.480
but it was happening and w WE
knew it too, and this is getting

467
00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:35.400
people to check it out. And
this is also elevating the games when these

468
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:37.799
folks get into matches, because again, like Tiffany Stratton to me, had

469
00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:43.319
her best match i've seen her in
against Becky Lynch, and it takes two

470
00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:45.960
to tango. Becky Lynch is obviously
the veteran and helps lay out a great

471
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:51.200
match, very in retaining match,
hard fought match, and Tiffany Stratton held

472
00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:54.640
her own in that opportunity as well. So I like the moves and I

473
00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:59.119
think it's a good thing for NXT, which is I don't know, doctor

474
00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:02.720
Strey, It's been two years since
the two point oh launch, the relaunch

475
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:07.359
of this brand, and I'm just
starting to feel like you're starting in to

476
00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:12.840
see those I don't know, like
twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen vibes of the

477
00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:15.000
NXT black and Gold era that made
it so much fun when launched on the

478
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:21.559
WW network play out again now on
the US and USA network here in twenty

479
00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:24.760
twenty three. I feel like it's
it's coming to that point again. Yeah.

480
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:31.519
It feels like right before the Undisputed
Eric came into NXT, like you

481
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:36.800
know, you started seeing some of
the you know, WW guys that were

482
00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:39.960
kind of pushed down, whether it's
a Ticing Czarro or somebody else like that,

483
00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:44.119
you know, kind of get repacked, and we're kind of seeing that

484
00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:49.639
now. And then even even the
when the's when the top indie guys we're

485
00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:52.760
coming in, whether it was a
Kevin oh and Sammy Zane, Bobby Rude,

486
00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:55.920
whoever it was, and we saw
them in the crowd, they had

487
00:34:57.039 --> 00:35:00.119
name value and it made you want
to tune in to see, well,

488
00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:01.320
we're they gonna do with Boby Rue
where they gonna do with you know,

489
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:05.639
with Oscar you know, whoever it
was the super indie person they were bringing

490
00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:07.599
in. We have that now,
like, hey, so what if you

491
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:12.719
want Baron Corvette NXT you like Seth
Rollins is going down to wrestle Broun Breaker,

492
00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:15.880
Like what's going on with this?
Like it does create that intrigue that

493
00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:19.719
you have to tune in to watch
and then you become a fan of a

494
00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:23.960
Carbelo Hayes and til you're dragging off
you know, metaphor Tyler Bait, whoever

495
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:29.199
it is that you kind of gravitate
towards based off you tuning in to see

496
00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:34.000
Becky Legion, Tippitty Stratton go at
it. Yeah, Yeah, it's it's

497
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:36.480
a good time pairing right now for
NXC. If you're not watching NXC,

498
00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:38.920
I highly recommend anybody listening to the
podcast to go check it out because it's

499
00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:43.159
been it's been a really good run
for the brand. Ass of late,

500
00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:45.679
Like the last three to six months
have been really good. I've been to

501
00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:50.239
join a NXT lately. Last thing
I want to bring up here on this

502
00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:52.159
week's sesition the podcast. You're starting
to see them momentum play out on WWE

503
00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:57.239
television right now, specifically on the
Raw brand. They had a great match

504
00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:00.599
to close out Raw two weeks ago
for the Intercardinal champ Chip that solidified Gunther's

505
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:07.199
record breaking rain. As Interconnal champions
are passing the honky talk Man one Doctor

506
00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:10.199
Trey's guys, and now you're starting
to see it play out on television and

507
00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:14.920
I'm starting to get like the Spider
senses tingling a little bit here, Doctor

508
00:36:14.920 --> 00:36:21.519
Tram like shit. I think Chad
Gable maybe the fucking guy that knocks off

509
00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:24.760
Gunther and ends this Intercodonal Championship rain
and that the fans will eat this up.

510
00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:30.800
I have been a big fan of
Chad Gable since his NXC days when

511
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:35.760
he was tagging with Jason Jordan an
American Alpha, and he's definitely had an

512
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:39.559
up and down career in w W
Moore downs than ups. The shorty g

513
00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:47.320
run was not good tagging with Robert
Rude and being like his body double like

514
00:36:47.400 --> 00:36:52.280
Damian Sandown winning Attack Team Championship,
American Alpha's failed run on the main roster

515
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:59.840
with Jason Jordan being revealed as the
son of Kurt Anglin and basically ending American

516
00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:06.440
Alpha with no rhyme nor reason,
and then Chad Gable running with Alpha Academy

517
00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:07.960
for a little bit. It did
not start out great, but has certainly

518
00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:12.679
gotten a lot of momentum lately.
The fans are behind it, and his

519
00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:15.400
in ring work is starting to pay
off each and every week on Raw.

520
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:20.440
This reminds me of like Shelton Benjamin
two thousand and three, two thousand and

521
00:37:20.519 --> 00:37:22.280
four run, where it's like,
this guy is a world of potential,

522
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:28.480
world of talent, and he's a
natural athlete and natural gifted performer. The

523
00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:31.039
only thing is, in no disrespect
to Shelton, it appears that that Chad

524
00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:37.159
Gable has a little bit more of
the character behind him that can resonate with

525
00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:40.840
fans. They're just is that feeling, Doctor Trey. It's it's almost kind

526
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:46.559
of Daniel br Brian is like in
twenty fourteen, the underdog fans are starting

527
00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:51.360
to get behind him. Is Chad
Gable the guy that can knock off Gunther?

528
00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:54.719
Or more importantly, is w w
wee starting to build him up as

529
00:37:54.719 --> 00:38:00.400
a guy to knock off Gunther?
I think the build is there. I

530
00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:05.679
think you're building him up to position
him as that upper mid card guy.

531
00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:08.400
I don't know if he'll ever get
to main event level, because as much

532
00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:14.199
as we love Jack Gable, like
the guy is undersized and you know,

533
00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:19.719
for me, if you can survive
the short ge gimmick, you deserve all

534
00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:22.159
the accolades in the world. You
should get all your rows and you should

535
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:25.239
get all your flowers, all that
stuff, because that may have been one

536
00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:30.320
of the worst gimmicks we've seen anybody
undertake in the last decade. To take

537
00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:35.280
that and come to where he's that
now, the guy deserves all the world,

538
00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:38.280
you know. But I still think
in the eyes of most of WWE,

539
00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:44.440
he's a bit undersized to be a
main event guy unless he can transcend

540
00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:52.800
that completely like a Daniel Bryant did
there to me. I don't know who

541
00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:59.880
you have knocked off Gunther unless you
have somebody prime for another big breakout him.

542
00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:01.199
They might run it with Chad Gable. I mean, the record has

543
00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:05.960
been broken Gunther as long as ringing
Icy champion of all time. They may

544
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:08.239
do it. We saw, you
know, Samosa Chompa come into the mix,

545
00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:13.320
which is we know is a triple
H guy. It could be a

546
00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:17.599
fluke victory that allows Gable to get
the title. But I love Jack Gable,

547
00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:21.960
He's just he's just a little too
small for me to take seriously at

548
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:27.280
times. And that's sad to say
because he's arguably the best professional wrestler in

549
00:39:27.400 --> 00:39:31.599
ring technician in the world, but
he's five foot seven and like two hundred

550
00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:36.760
pounds. It makes me a little
He's not I don't I don't know how

551
00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:38.440
I feel about Jack Gable. I
guess Jeff is my way of putting it

552
00:39:38.519 --> 00:39:45.119
right now. Is his size being
but is his strength overshadowing his size?

553
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:47.360
Like the ability that he's able to
do what they now call the chaos there,

554
00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:52.800
that rolling suplex into a pin.
The fact that he's able to do

555
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:57.239
that to someone like Gunther repetitively in
the ring. Do you feel like the

556
00:39:57.320 --> 00:40:05.199
strength aspect is covering up his size? I think to a degree it does.

557
00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:08.000
I mean, we watch him and
that's an oppressive movement and he reminds

558
00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:10.480
me a lot of Kurt Angle.
And I know everybody says that because the

559
00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:15.360
whole you know, American Gammick,
the wrestler Gammick, but they they're very,

560
00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:19.119
very similar. He comes off a
little bit like a little bit smaller

561
00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:22.920
version of Kurt Angle. And we've
seen it in the personality, like Kurt

562
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:25.960
Angles one of the funniest guys to
come through WWE. But he could be

563
00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:30.039
serious, he could do all those
things. Gable can do all that too.

564
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:36.239
To me, you get Gable over
by making him an underdog and making

565
00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:38.840
people feel bad for him and have
overcup of obstacles. To me, I

566
00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:44.199
don't have him beat Gunther and then
I have you know, do you have

567
00:40:44.880 --> 00:40:47.400
Otis turn on him? Because Otis
can be a monster, and we've seen

568
00:40:47.480 --> 00:40:50.840
him be the heel, We've seen
him be the funny baby face, but

569
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:55.960
heroes, needo obstacles overcome, and
right now, this Gunther thing is really

570
00:40:57.000 --> 00:41:00.920
the first big baby face obstacle Gables
had to go against. And that's why

571
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:05.480
I'm just I'm curious as to do
you pull the trigger now and or do

572
00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:07.639
you let it build out even longer
like we see with Cody Rhodes. So

573
00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:12.239
I just I'm not sure where they
go with it from here. I think

574
00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:14.800
if they don't do it now,
it's not going to happen at all.

575
00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:19.000
Like if it's not happening at fast
Lane, if there's not a Intercolinal championship

576
00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:22.119
match between Gunther and Chad Gable at
fast Lane, then I do think there's

577
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:25.760
a possibility to carries itself over to
the next paper you which may be Survivor

578
00:41:25.800 --> 00:41:30.639
Series. But I feel like they
need to execute on this now. Maybe

579
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:35.280
they save it for a Monday Night
Rob but I think especially after Gabel's daughter

580
00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:38.800
cried at Ringside and had such a
very natural moment which pulls on the heartstrings

581
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:45.159
of fans, especially fans that are
parents, I think I think they're going

582
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:49.320
to do it. I think I
think the window is now to do it,

583
00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:52.719
Doctor Trey. If they don't do
it now, then I don't think

584
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:55.679
they ever do it. So it's
it's interesting. It's a very interesting time,

585
00:41:55.719 --> 00:42:00.719
and I think I think I've convinced
myself Gables the guy, and Gable's

586
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:04.800
going to be the one to do
it now that he's especially reached the plateau

587
00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:07.920
of the record. I think that's
what they wanted to accomplish. Yeah,

588
00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:10.960
no, in your mind, is
he big enough to be a world champion

589
00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:17.519
contender Gable? Yeah, I mean
we're everybody's going to go back to Brian

590
00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:23.480
Danielson, maybe even his stereo.
Even though Ray's won the world title twice,

591
00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:28.440
I never took Rady of the series
world title contender. Yeah, and

592
00:42:28.519 --> 00:42:32.079
that Brian run was was obviously cut
short back in fourteen because of his injury.

593
00:42:32.159 --> 00:42:38.679
His run as the was it the
Environmental Champion was was really good.

594
00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:44.320
I thought Styles as a world champion
was very believable and a very good run

595
00:42:44.360 --> 00:42:49.320
as well. If Gable keeps doing
what he's doing, I think it's possible.

596
00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:51.800
I think it's possible, Doctor Trey, because again I think the strength

597
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:58.519
is outshining the the size. I
think that is like a legitimate visual.

598
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:02.159
This guy's got a lot of heart
and he is the He is an underdog,

599
00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:06.039
and I can get behind this.
I do think he has the opportunity

600
00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:09.639
to be a world title contender someday. Yeah, And I think if they

601
00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:13.360
go that route, you have to
hear it on comments. Harry also about

602
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and we heard it with Brian with
Daniel Bryan back then, about how good

603
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in the ring he was, you
know, and they're going to really sell

604
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that the folks, Like there was
a guy back when I was a kid

605
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that was a wrestler and they called
him. His name was Checkmate and he

606
00:43:28.360 --> 00:43:30.960
was in a world class championship wrestling, and his whole gimmick was he could

607
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counter anything. And you kind of
have to build a Gable like that in

608
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order for those fans who look at
the Hogans like they want the big giant

609
00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:46.119
guys on top, they have to
buy into the hearts and the technical prowess

610
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of somebody like Chad Gable to really
get it over. And we saw it

611
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a little bit on my that we
all like we've seen Chad Gable be the

612
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cheesy I guess, the way of
putting it, like the shish and all

613
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those things. We got to see
the real check Gable also starts to come

614
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out because we know he has the
personality, we know he can talk.

615
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We just got to see that heart
and that kind of never say diet attitude

616
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that we saw with those undersized guys
kind of come out in order for him

617
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to be elevated the eyes of the
fans, I think. I mean,

618
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and who's that like, right?
I mean, you're talking about the choosh.

619
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That's comparable to the S movement with
Daniel Bryan, and Daniel Bryan was

620
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very goofy. He was the underdog, but when he got in the ring,

621
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like he was a legit badass that
people got behind. So there's a

622
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lot of Daniel Bryan comparisons. There
a lot of angle, a lot of

623
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Daniel Bryan in comparisons, maybe angle
on the wrestling side, which I know

624
00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:39.159
is weird to say because it's Daniel
Bryan for crying out loud, but it's

625
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more of the natural wrestler Olympic wrestler
background that compares to Kurt Angle obviously than

626
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:51.440
the character and underdog mentality is very
similar to that. Daniel Bryan twenty fourteen

627
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run. I mean you gave a
credit because hey, not only the like

628
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the poor guy, I mean him
and take the Jordan with the best tag

629
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teams we ever saw in NXD.
You lose Jason Jordan, you have the

630
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shorty g Gammick. They stick Otis
with you out of nowhere because they didn't

631
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know what to do with Otis.
And then they put you in a feud

632
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:12.960
with maximum male models. And then
not only are you so over that help

633
00:45:13.039 --> 00:45:17.280
get both teams over, you steal
their manager, yeah, and their gimmick.

634
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Yeah, Like it's crazy that.
I mean, that does show you

635
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:25.480
how much faith they have in those
guys, because I mean you look at

636
00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:30.119
Maxine and that's that's got a vincc
Man valet written all over it, and

637
00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:36.400
they've been able to transition and poor
must say, like we just don't see

638
00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:37.800
them anymore, Like they're just gone. Every this vaccine left, they're just

639
00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:43.880
poofed. So you gotta give credit
to Gable And then you know, seeing

640
00:45:43.880 --> 00:45:47.239
Otis come back and be the fun
loving Otis that we knew back in Heavy

641
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:52.599
Machinery and then the Mandy Rose days, Like that's the best version of Otis.

642
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:58.039
So it really does plays with both
of their strengths right now. So

643
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there you go. Is Chad Gable
the one to knockoff Gunther? Feel free

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Peck. This is the Storo Show. Didn't didn't didn't