Everything We Missed During The Holidays | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #726 – 1/11/24

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It's to welcome everybody. Welcome to
this week's It's a Miss Real To show

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Episomber seven and twenty six for January
eleven, twenty twenty four. Welcome to

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your everything we missed during the holiday
programming schedule edition of s R to You,

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I am one after the show,
I am Jackie Peck joined every single

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week my host on only Doctor Tray
Franklin, Doctor Trey, How quickly did

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you realize last week's episode went to
hell? Very quickly, my friend,

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Oh, very very very quickly.
Not to mention, it doesn't even feel

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like we've been off that long,
so like true, wait, we're back

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to life programming already, Like we're
back to live, oh Braham, all

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right? And then as I tell
you off the air, like I got

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the dogs are in bed with me, Sammy's in the other room snoring away.

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I'm like, yeah, this this
is back to It is no whole

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schedule, it's back to our routine
though, so yeah, yeah. So

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let me preface this by saying,
we are recording this a little bit earlier

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than we normally do this week because
Doctor Trey's got some traveling and to do,

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and I've got some really terrible weather. So we're doing this before aw

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Dynamite, which probably means some of
the things we talk about on this show

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we'll go to hell in a handbasket, like last week's show, Like when

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I sat down and I watched the
Day one edition of RAW last week,

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which by the way, was a
great episode of Raw. I'm watching it,

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Jenner Mahaal comes out and we'll talk
about this in it in a little

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bit bit a little bit, but
just to address last week show, because

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I saw one of our longtime listeners, Nate like tweeted at us like,

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so when did you guys record this? This meaning last week's episode, and

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I saw the Rock come out and
then the Rock challenges Roman Reigns, and

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I'm like, oh fuck, Like
this goes against our RUSS many of preview

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predictions all that stuff. I blame
you. Yeah, it's my fault.

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And that was definitely one major story. The other one is like where Mercedes

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Monette ends up and if she debuts
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on Dynamite, or if she's still
not AW bound. So we're going to

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touch upon a lot of that stuff
here on this week's edition of the show.

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But understand that, yes, we
recorded a lot of our shows over

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the last three weeks, like a
couple of weeks, a couple of days

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before Christmas. I want to say, maybe a week before Christmas. That

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way, Doctor Trey and I have
all this time where you know, we're

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taking a little bit of a break. We did hop on during the middle

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of it, did the AW World's
End preview prediction. We'll actually recap in

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review that very quickly here on this
week's edition of the podcast. We both

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agreed, like, Nope, we're
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review special of AW Worlds End last
week because we didn't feel like there was

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anything really noteworthy to say. Spread
that vacation, allow out a little bit

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more, and we'll cover it here
all on this week'sition of the podcast.

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So everything that we missed the last
three weeks we covered here, and we

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begin with AW World's End Doctor Trey
recap review. This took place back on

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December thirty from Nasau Veterans Memorial Coliseum
in Uniondale, Long Island, New York.

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I'm going to try to get through
this pretty quickly, a little bit

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different than we have in the past. I'm gonna simply ask you, doctor

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Tray, if you've got anything you
want to mention about the match, and

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we'll just keep it moving. Willow
Nightingale defeats Chris Statlander. We did not

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predict that one any thoughts. No, we're good. Kill Switch wins a

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twenty man Battle Royal for a future
AWT and T championhip match. I had

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j White, Doctor Trey, and
Claudia Castid Noley. I guess my only

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point in this is I think after
we recorded the preview special, they announced

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at the Continental Classic, guys,
we're gonna be in like an all star

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match. So I was like,
well, there goes that match. Yeah,

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not to mention you and I say
here before like where is kill Switch?

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Is he injured? Like we didn't
know where he been, So it

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was kind of surprising not to not
only see him hit it, but to

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actually win it as well. But
hey, it worked out later in the

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STU which, by the way,
he was selling an injury the concerto from

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Adam Copland, which I completely forgot
about, which is more on Aw's part,

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like you got to show some you
know, highlight packages of what's been

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going on the feud and cover the
things that we may have forgotten. When

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you do that, hook defeats Wheeler
n in an FTW rules match and retain

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the FTW Championship. We both had
hook My only thing is instead of saying

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like what the FTW rules was,
just say it's like no hold Bard's no

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hold Bard or street fight, Like
what the hell is FTW rules? I

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had no idea. Do you now
know what they are? Not? Really?

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I think it's a no holds Bard
match. Yeah, I still think

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you're gonna do FDS. Yeah.
I think you just take the ropes off

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the ring and makes it more like
a UFC side. That's what you mentioned

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during the preview show, right,
Yeah, I think that would be a

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much more of an FTW like you
know, buck the wrestling. Yeah,

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well it was fuck the wrestling,
fuck the world. I think that's what

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it all meant for the win.
Maybe maybe that's what Tas was thinking back

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in ninety eight. Were you surprised
though, when you hear that Hooks wanting

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to go through Samoa Joe. I
know there is some stuff that we'll cover

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about that in regards to some tweets
that took place before we went on the

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air tonight. So I'm gonna hold
off on that thought here momentarily. Next

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one is Brian Danielson, Claudia casting
only, Daniel Garcia and Mark Bursk,

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Goodfeeding, Brody King, Jay Lethal
Rouche and j Why in a Continental Classic

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All Star eight man tag match.
I will want to cover this one.

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We did not predict it. A
very fun eight man tag match. I

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really liked the Continental Classic All Star
match concept and hope they do it for

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years to come. Follow in the
tournament, a good call with Daniel Garcia

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again the victory, and hopefully AW
takes this win for him to build off

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of it. It appears they are
doing that right now, at least in

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short term. But I really enjoyed
this concept. Doctor Try. Yeah,

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I enjoyed the concept. I enjoyed
the match. I do like it because

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it's it's Daniel Garcia maybe the epitome
of stop and start booking. When you

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look at AW, because he's had
pushes that was just stop and then pushed

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and stop and then it feels like
they're giving him another one again now,

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so good for them. But the
matches that was really really fun. I

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mean, we actually got a chancy, you know, Brian Danielson and J

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whis you get to see people from
opposite leagues that don't get the phase of

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up during the Classic finally get a
chance to do so in the Alltar Match.

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Next match is Miro defeated Andred Aliedelo. I had Miro doctor Tred Andrede.

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Obviously, the big thing here is
the rumors about Andrade. His contract

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is up with AW will cover him
and his potential or his free agency later

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on the show. But I thought
this was a solid match. CJ.

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Perry turned on androdd and to help
her husband win. That appeared to be

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the way that they were sending Andrede
out of AW. I hope Miro has

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a bigger focus in twenty twenty four, as he's a really fun wrestler to

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watch week to week. What's really
cool about like covering this pay per view?

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Nearly two weeks later, they did
nothing on programming to follow up after

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this nothing. Yeah, you at
least want to say, like, you

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know, have Mirror come out and
be like, you know, because of

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me, Andrade left the cup and
let give him something and then there's just

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no payoff at all. So and
not even a really great turn by c

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J. Perry, like it was
almost like not even actually it was just

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like so non shalant and then whoop. See Like I'm like that wasn't even

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a great turn. So no,
I was, But I'm a big Mirror

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fan. I hope they do both
that. He's one of my favorite people

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in professional wrestling. Time with Tony
Storm defeats Rio to retain the AW Women's

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World Championship. We both had time
with Tony Storm. I just felt like

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Rio really never got going in this
match. I felt like she was buying

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the eight all the entire time,
and timeless Tony Storm pretty much dominated Doctor

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Try. Yeah, but at least
she wasn't trying to conceal a weapon in

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her booty this time. True,
that is true. Sur Strickland defeats Dustin

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Rhodes. We both had sort of
Strickland. I think AW did the best

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they could with a really bad situation. Keith Lee was not cleared before the

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match. I hope twenty twenty four
is a massive year for Swerve and this

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just basically showed how fish you seek. Yeah, my only thing about this

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match was I think they gave it
way too much time. Yeah, they

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did, they did. We haven't
seen Dustin on TV. In like four

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months and you're gonna give him like
a twenty five minute match. You could

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have given you more time to somebody
else and just let Swear be dominant in

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this match, and that would still
set up him and keep Lee down the

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road where cleared. I wonder if
having a guy who's barely won on television

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take on a top star in a
wrestling company and make him to bite Tony

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Kahn in the butt. Here later
on the pod, stay tuned, Chris

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Jericho, Samy Gavar is Stinging Darby
Allen, Ricky Stark's Big Big Bill Kenoski

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Takashkin Powerouse Hobbs in an eight man
tag match. We both had Jericho Sammy

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Stinging Darby match fell off and never
really got me into it. Gavar got

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the pen on Ricky Stark's That makes
sense because they have the aw tag team

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title match. But how do you
not give Sting the penn in potentially his

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farewell match in New York State?
Because Govar is a pillar? I mean,

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it's true than so who does like? I guess it's just kind of

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way of cementing the baby face turns
by Govar getting the pen and for us

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to try to forget that. You
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many times this year is crazy.
Yeah, yeah, I guess. Julie

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Hart defeats Avadan, retaining the AWTBS
Championship in a house rules match. To

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me, this match didn't live up
to expectations that I had for two up

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and comers in the women's division.
There was some misspots Excalbert did a good

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job trying to save it on commentary, and that I don't understand the creative

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direction of all of a sudden Skyblue
aligning with Julie Hart, because prior to

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this she was it looked like she
was gonna aligned with Julie Hart, but

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then missed her back and then that
led to a trouble threat match with a

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TBS Championship with Chris Statlander, and
then only like a couple of weeks later,

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Skyblue is then aligned with Julie Hart
randomly like Okay, this is weird,

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this is aw creative in a nutshell
dot to try this match felt like

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seeing a preview for a horror movie
that you really kind of want to see,

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and then you watch you went,
oh, man, I just I

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want that hour and a half of
my life back, Like on paper,

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this should been a really fun match, and then it's kind of like if

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the Boogeyman wrestled an Undertaker, like
you kind of want to see that happen,

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but if it ever happened, you've
been like, yeah, that was

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just not good at all. Like
there's just the it didn't mesh it didn't

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styles the mesh up, and then
like you're right, like one week sky

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Blues trying to figure out if she's
crazy or not, the next week they're

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together. Then the thunder Rosa gets
involved at one point, but then we

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get this match and there's no funder
Like it was just yeah, it's just

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all over the place. It makes
sense a bed mesh. Well, Adam

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Copeland defeats Christian Cage and a no
disqualification match to win the AWD and T

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Champion ToIP go with that, Adam
Copeland getting the victory, fun and entertaining

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match. I really like how the
final ten minutes of this match and what

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happened after the match with kill Switch
attempting to cash in only for Christian Cage

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to demand kill Switch to give a
title shot to him, leading to the

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next match, was really good creative
booking, which then led us to Christian

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Cage defeed it out Copeland to win
the AWT and T Championship. This match

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played really well into the current direction. The Christian Cage character entertaining stuff again

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and I helpe the eventual turn of
kill Switch on Christian Cage gets executed really

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well. You start, you're starting
to see the fans get behind kill Switch

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Lucasaurus for that eventual turn. I
mean they were basically cheering it on on

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last week's or two weeks editions now
of aw Dynamite. Doctor Treyr thoughts on

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Copeland winning then losing, tell me
it's a WW match that telling me it's

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a w W match like it started
off kind of It was a very like

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it's very Randy Orton Adam Copeland as
type match, like it starts off kind

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of slow, then picks up a
little bit, and then the last ten

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minutes are just spot off fantastic.
So, uh yeah, it was.

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It was one of the best matches
on the show, if not the best

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match on the show. The post
matched up was great. My question is

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if kill Switch turns baby Face,
does he keep the kill Switch name or

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does he go back to Lucasaurus.
No, I think he goes back to

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Lucasaurus and didn't didn't Christian renate is
are they calling christians finisher the un prettier

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or are they still calling it the
kill switch. I think it's still going

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by the kill switch. I don't
believe it's they're calling it on prettier in

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AW, so his finisher is the
kill switch and then his protege is the

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kill switch. Okay, he just
really loves kill switch engaged that That might

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be why I took away from this
match the most. Yeah, I guess

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he does. I mean it's I
mean, I'm prettier and kill switch are

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both not good names for a finisher
in my opinion. Yeah, but though

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these are the kill switch, you
can say, hey, flipped the switch

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whatever, you can do more with
it. You can't really say, oh

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he made him unprettier. That just
sounds Next match here is Eddie Kinkston defeating

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John Moxley to win the Championship Final
for the AW Continental Classic for the inaugural

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Triple Crown Championship of the r H
World Title, New Japan Strong open Weight

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Championship and the inaugural AW Continental Crown
Championship. We both had Eddie Kinkson getting

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the victory. This is a physical, hard hitting and throw back Japanese match.

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The finish came out of nowhere nowhere, which gave it real fight feel

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that you don't see too often in
most matches, which was cool. The

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booking of Eddie Kinkson throughout the tournament
was really was nearly perfect, from starting

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down two to coming back to win
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and John Moxley and consecutive matches.
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I hope he continues for a strong
twenty twenty four form. Doctor Try Yeah,

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I Eddie Keseyes. Of those guys
that he's kind of I don't see

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he's the Kevin Owens of aw But
when you look at and you're like,

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yeah, he looks like a good
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the dude can talk, the duke
can work. He's got multiple styles you

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can go with and then once the
yeah, when you put a guy in

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the ring with one of his best
friends, they have a really damn good

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match. Usually so back to back
best friend matches and argument, two best

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matches on the show, and then
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AW World champions We both had MJF
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against them Mojo during this match,
as he's battling injury all throughout, injury

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all throughout, Somemojo is your new
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fashion, ending the year long plus
title reign of MGF. On a somewhat

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sour note, Adam Cole revealing he
was a devil working alongside Roger Strong,

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Matt Tavin, Mike Bennett, and
Wardlob to form Undisputed Kingdom, which is

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an awful name, was predictable but
made the most sense. It was Adam

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Cole who convinced MGF too accept Someojo's
offer in the first place and let him,

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losing the roh tag titles and eventually
the AW World Championship. The angle

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works out well as I should give
MGF some time off TV to recover from

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injuries and allow the MGF fatigue to
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I am optimistic that this angle injects
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in twenty twenty four, and that
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Doctor Trey. But's first off,
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Yeah, and some of those things
were like, if you had told

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me a year ago that out of
all the people on the roster to take

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the bell from MGF, it be
samo Joe, I probably said to you

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were nuts, because it wasn't that
long ago. The guy was relegated just

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being a commentator. But four years
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WrestleMania thirty seven he did from Tampa. Yeah, and then now you're

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looking at him as being the focal
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in the sense of he looks like
he's a legit badass, he's one of

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the nicest guys in wrestling, and
the dude can talk. So it makes

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a lot of sense on those levels. But when you look at the roster

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of stars, you just jump Joe
over everybody, which I'm four. I

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love Somemo Joe. I love seeing
in this position. And plus it's gonna

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give us some great matchups down the
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that ass. And then, plus, like you said, it felt like

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MJF never really had chance. I
mean, the Dudegiti is like his The

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left side of his body is barely
the left Yeah, left side of his

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body's barely working. And yet the
guys out there, you know, wrestling

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tag matches, wrestling singles matches,
trying to carry the company on his shoulders.

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So give the guy some time off
the heel and and and get better

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than when he comes back to the
The pop that NBA will get when he

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comes back, especially if they if
they time it right, is will probably

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be triple h massive, square guard
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I was thinking the same thing, like

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of a return pop was very similar
to that return. So pay perview prediction

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record I went eight and two.
Doctor Trey went seven and three. We

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End twenty twenty three. I went
one, thirty one forty seven. Doctor

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Trey went one, twenty one and
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event rating. I gave World's End
at three point five. My match the

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night was Adam Copland Christian Cage.
I was not a big fan of this

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pay per view Doctor Trey. Yeah, that's funny because we talked about off

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air about recapping and I'm like,
yeah, nothing really eventful happened. So

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I was at a three point four. I felt it was eh, it

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was average at best. My match
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Cage as well. So there you
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before we get into some other stuff
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little bit more on the Undisputed Kingdom. The reveal of the Devil for Adam

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Cole, Like I said in my
recap of the match, it was the

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most likely scenario, was the most
predictable scenario. It didn't leave us feeling

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disappointed, but it also didn't leave
me feeling good either. I don't know.

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I don't know what would have saved
this angle, quite honestly. I

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mean it's funny because after we recorded
the preview bonus podcast we did, I

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just was like starting to think,
I'm like, oh, man, I

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wish I picked Samoa Joe because the
night before we did it, right after

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that Dynamite where it was revealed he
was working with the Devil, and it

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was like, wait, it actually
makes a ton of sense because Adam Cole

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was the one saying you know,
you need to accept Samojo's offer. So

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it should not be a shock that
he was revealed to be the devil because

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he was the one encouraging MJF to
make the deal with Samoa Joe. Really

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predictable stuff, Doctor Trey. Again, I'm not disappointed. It's the safest

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bet, it makes the most sense. But I guess I had higher expectations

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hope for this angle. I didn't
hate it, like as I lab with

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you, like it made the most
sense. It wasn't sam In Callahan,

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which you know there were so many
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Callahan's not on the level of at
him Cole right, So like there really

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wasn't. I mean, what would
Dolph Zigler have made it better? Like

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would somebody else have made it better? I mean, Mustapha Ali's not gonna

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make the angle any better. You
know, of all the free agents out

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there, none of those guys would
have made this any better. Hadham call

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was the safe pick. And you
know, you get to a lot of

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intriguing storylines coming out, like you
know, you know you saw him on

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Dynamite, you know, telling you
some about Joe Hey when I'm better like

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Wardlow's coming after the aw title yet
or next and when he gets in contention,

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Joe Hope is not you because I
would have hurt a friend. But

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then Wardlow's going to forfeit the title
to me, you know something that like

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now you're setting up you know,
potentially Wardlow. When Joe and they ward

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Low and Adam Cole, then the
ward Low face turned, you know,

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so you're setting stuff up for down
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Now, if you don't follow through
that once again the angle falls flat

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on his face. But it makes
a lot of sense as far as for

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Star Power stable group. I mean, hell, I'm pretty sure this has

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more longevity than the Firm or or
the Pinnacle, you know, any of

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those groups that were around for like
a month and then gone. So final

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way. I also don't like the
name the Undisputed Kingdom because it's too much

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like the United Kingdom or and then
you can't do a cool hand signal with

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the K like you can't do like
it links with the Unisputed Air and you

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have the cool handsling, but it
just feels like a rehash of NXT what

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they did there a little bit with
the Undisputed airs like you, there's a

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lot of names out there you could
have come up with that might have been

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better. But then again we have
the Judgment Day. So there you go.

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That is true, and we actually
now love the Judgment Day and you

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kind of forget about the really bad
name from time to time. But maybe

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that'll fallow the same thing. I
just they already did Undisputed Elite right with

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the Undisputed Error when they came to
aw and then you do it again where

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you combine the Kingdom and Undisputed Error
Undisputed Elite to make Undisputed Kingdom. It's

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like like Judgment Day was not a
great name, but this is like literally

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taking two random words and putting them
together. I mean, it's it's a

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bizarre thing, but yeah, it
was the safest bet, doctor Truit.

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Maybe maybe the hieh in is because
Adam Cole lost to MJF in the United

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Kingdom and the I don't know,
well, I mean you, I mean,

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the full history on it is that
Adam Cole was in the Kingdom with

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Matt Tavin and Mike Bennett. Roger
Strong was obviously in Undisputed era. So

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let's just take two stables. One
of them being a WWE stable and use

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that name in AW and then you
know Tony Cobbell then blast w W on

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Twitter like he's presently doing this past
week. It's it's bizarre. It's not

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my favorite creative stuff that I've seen
play out. Obviously, it's a safe

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bet. It makes sense. Does
it excite me as a wrestling fan?

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Though? No? So is what
it is. I do like stables.

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So there's so many stables in AW
that sometimes you just kind of go,

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wait, aren't they still in a
group? Like I forget who has broken

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up and who hasn't broken up?
Sometimes I'm like, wait, weren't they

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like what? Like you lose track? Sometimes I just think it would have

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it would have been creative if,
let's say, just little small things like

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keep wardlow in the group, pair
Adam Cole up with the returning Kyle O'Reilly,

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bring back Bobby Fish and pick God. I don't know who else has

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let's say Max Castor or something.
Who was a guy's name the Ring of

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r TV Champion right now? Well
he's in the He's in the Colls family.

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Kyle Fletcher. Oh well, I
thought dog Colls Faily is not really

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a family it's basically like there's two
guys and then he hires a bunch of

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guys. No, no, no, they're I mean they're they're consistently a

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stable unless Sam mcvar returns from concussion. So anyway, like and then have

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where Taven, Mike Bennett, and
Roger Strong are not in the group and

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Adam Coles revealed to the devil.
The entire time they were pushing that MJF

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was a devil, and then they
kind of become faces and feud with Adam

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Cole and his three people, and
it's not so predictable. All of a

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sudden, Rogerck Strong and Tavin and
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They're getting over with the fans and
they see that MGF wasn't the devil

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that you know, they were the
ones posting the signs all throughout, and

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they're like, wow, MGF was
right, he wasn't the devil, and

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Adam Cole betrayed me. And Roger
Trunk doesn't have to get off too far

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from his current character that was screaming
Adam's name and all that stuff, and

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he'll get over with the fan base
and you have a feud to have a

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little bit of a stop gap while
MGF is back, and when mgeff returns,

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maybe he aligns with those guys.
By the way, is Maria in

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the group She's she's not. And
I just found out because I don't watch

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r OH. She's aligned with Cole
Carter, who used to be two dimes

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in NXT before he got popped for
like smoking weed or something, and Griff

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Garrison, who I guess are now
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which was mind blowing to me because
Griff Garrison took on Adam Coplan on Collision

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this past week And that's how I
only found that out. Oh okay,

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because yeah, there's a lot of
shows I don't keep track of the secondary

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and third line, and I'm like, r OH, I don't watch.

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I can't do it. But I'm
pretty sure at one point she was in

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all the vignettes with yeah and and
and Tavin. I'm like, yeah,

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yeah, yeah, did they fire
her? I mean, I don't know

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if they actually wrote her off the
storylines. I mean that's one of the

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things that's always a big issue with
AW and she used to be the theme

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song and she would say like thy
Kingdom Come and they would come out,

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you'd hear her voice and that would
be on the graphic on the screen and

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all that stuff. But they like
slowly faded her away and then had her

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pair up with two guys Griff Garrison, Cole Carter and Roh. I guess

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it does not make sense that thing, and that's just aw creative, like

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at least tie up loose ends,
and that's what's really good about WI right

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now. So have some druthers here
about the whole devil execution, but at

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the end of the day, I
totally understand why they did it. Sticking

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with MJF. So the injury update
on MJF. This comes to us from

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the January second edition of Wrestling Observer
Radio and also comes to us via Wrestling

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Inc. Dave Meltz revealed that MGF
is weighing all options when it comes to

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recovery from his torn labram. This
includes either rehabbing the shoulder, which would

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allow him MJF to return to the
ring sooner than expected, or opting for

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a surgical procedure, which is believed
to be the best option given the severity

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to tear. It's unclear this time
which direction MGF is leading in should MJFF

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opt for surgery, would likely meet
an extended absence for the former AW World

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champion's recovery time from torm Laydrum's post
surgery is said to take about for four

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to six months, provided that there
are no complications. This would keep MGF

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off TV until at least the early
summer, which would mean he would miss

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at least AW Revolution in March,
in AW Double or nothing in May,

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though it would put him in a
position to work AW all in at Wembley

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Stadium in August. I'm not one
to write off really good characters on television,

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but I actually think MGF being out
for a while doctor Trey with an

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injury, should he do the surgery
and be out for four to six months

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months is a really good thing because
MGFF even pointing out in himself during the

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Players Forbune article that he wrote that
I highly encourage everybody to check out that

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there started to feel like there was
MGF fatigue going on with the AW crowds.

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I mean he was not even popped, Like there was not a loud

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pop for him in Long Island,
which was shocked. I think him going

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away and you earlier in the show
compared it to the return of Triple H.

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I think him being away from injury
is literally the best thing that could

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be for him right now in his
character. Yeah. I mean, you

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look at WWE over the last decade, you know it's the biggest pops are

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the returns from people who've been gone
for a long time, whether it's you

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know, I was off for you
know, nine years somewhere else and just

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left wrestling or injured like we mentioned
Triple H, Madison Square one, John

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Ceas return at the Rumple, the
hardy boys at Wrestle Media, seem punks

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return. A lot of these returns
are people just absence makes the heart grow

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fonder, and then also you do
kind of get a little bit of shock

403
00:26:40.319 --> 00:26:44.200
value when they finally do returns,
like, oh my god, I forgot

404
00:26:44.200 --> 00:26:48.039
how much I love this guy.
And especially when you have such a subtle

405
00:26:48.039 --> 00:26:52.799
heel to Babyface turn like MJF did, where there are still fans that are

406
00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:56.759
not big MJF fans because of the
fact that he was such a slam ball

407
00:26:56.799 --> 00:27:00.000
for so long and it wasn't just
a blatant out of no where baby Face

408
00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:03.759
turned like we typically see or heel
turn for that matter. So hey,

409
00:27:03.759 --> 00:27:07.279
if he goes away for a little
while, I do think it comes back

410
00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:10.880
in the face. Hey, you
may need to update the music a tad

411
00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:14.319
like keep the same little part,
but you might make it a little more

412
00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:17.799
like I loose things altho sounds does
he wanted to be jazzy? You want

413
00:27:17.799 --> 00:27:21.039
to jazz it up? Yeah?
Yeah, spice it up a little bit,

414
00:27:21.079 --> 00:27:23.680
I guess, but a little saxophone, a little smooth jazz, a

415
00:27:23.720 --> 00:27:27.200
little smooth jazz, MJF. You
know. But you know, you know,

416
00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:32.279
even when Austin turned heel they tweaked
his music a little bit. There's

417
00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:34.319
always little subtle tweaks you can make
to kind of reepisode the poort, like

418
00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:37.720
hey, this is a good guy
now, Oh is a bad guy now?

419
00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:41.720
But you know, taking some time
off heel up. I just don't

420
00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:44.960
know. I don't if you know
this. Do they add time on for

421
00:27:45.079 --> 00:27:48.480
injury like they do in WW if
somebody's gone for six months? They do?

422
00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:49.559
Yeah, And I know there's a
lot of stuff here. Are you

423
00:27:49.559 --> 00:27:53.720
going? The direction of his contract
with AW right now? It would appear,

424
00:27:53.720 --> 00:27:59.079
according to reports that he was locked
up by AW almost like six months

425
00:27:59.119 --> 00:28:03.720
ago because W resources have not spoken
to him reportedly, and they all believe

426
00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:07.559
that he was signed when I think
when he like it was sometime over the

427
00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:11.640
summer, they believe. Yeah,
But then even then, like he's been

428
00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:14.680
playing it up on social media the
whole he's still been playing it up a

429
00:28:14.720 --> 00:28:18.799
little bit. He's kind of walked
back from that. I gotta be honest,

430
00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:21.960
he was really hypeing it up and
now he's very much like I want

431
00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:25.359
to be the leader of aw Well, there you go, so at least

432
00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:27.319
that way. I mean, I
still think like when he comes back,

433
00:28:27.359 --> 00:28:30.759
it's gonna be a huge megapop and
then now you have your legitimate baby face

434
00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:33.119
star that you can build a whole
copy around it out just build off a

435
00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:37.880
heel because now you can take Cole
and the Kingdom and be that be your

436
00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:41.640
major heel faction and then you know
you still got I'm still looking for it,

437
00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:45.359
like Joe and Brian, Joe and
Moxley, Joe and Claudio, like

438
00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:48.119
there's a lot of other magics that
we could have for the next six months

439
00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:52.119
to tie us over until the return
of MJF. Yeah, I don't want

440
00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:55.160
to lose sight of this. And
just because of the way that the show

441
00:28:55.279 --> 00:28:56.279
is going right now, there's a
lot of stuff we have to cover.

442
00:28:56.400 --> 00:29:00.559
I do want to mention that Samoa
Joe is a world champion. A dominant

443
00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:04.640
world champion is really fun for television. I loved his runs in NXT and

444
00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:11.920
ROH in the early two thousands,
so I'm excited for Joe. Plus getting

445
00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:15.519
Joe as a legitimate world championship run
in one of the two biggest companies there

446
00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:19.039
is is good for the legacy of
Joe. He has to become of those

447
00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:23.200
guys who's like, yeah, he
was never the top guy. Now he

448
00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:27.680
has a chance to be the top
guy for a while. To see how

449
00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:32.799
he handles the ball and runs with
him. I think hardcore wrestling fans appreciate

450
00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:37.480
him, but I hope that this
current run leads to more fans really appreciating

451
00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:41.759
how damn good Samoa Joe is.
Especially like almost twenty twenty five years,

452
00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:45.079
he's gotten the game. I mean
his runs in ROH, his time in

453
00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:48.960
NXT. I wish the WWI run
was a lot better. There were times

454
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:52.880
that was really really good and dominant. I think when he was US champion,

455
00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:56.319
obviously the run is NXC champion.
He had some injury issues. He

456
00:29:56.440 --> 00:30:00.880
was a damn good commentator, but
thank god he's no longer a commentator because

457
00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:03.960
we should be watching in the ring
stell. But Samo Joe is one of

458
00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:07.720
the most underappreciated guys I feel like
from the majority of wrestling fans, and

459
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:15.000
hopefully that changes course now as he
is AW World champion on a top tier

460
00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:22.680
United States wrestling organization. This story
kind of started to take place Tuesday night,

461
00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:26.240
and here we are covering on the
show. I don't even know if

462
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:32.079
Doctor Trey knows about this, but
Tony Khan has gotten back on the Twitter

463
00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:37.519
x machine. Do you know about
this, Doctor Trey? No? But

464
00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:41.279
is he becoming the Donald Trump of
Twitter? Ooh, it's in there.

465
00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:47.039
It's definitely in there. This story
comes to us from from Wrestling Inc.

466
00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:51.119
AW President Tony Khan has often said
that he is a wrestling fan first and

467
00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:55.599
foremost, and that he approaches wrestling
from a fan's perspective. CON's focus on

468
00:30:55.640 --> 00:30:57.920
win loss records apparently isn't limited to
all Lead wrestling, as CON has been

469
00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:03.039
keeping tabs on the window losses of
WE stars as well, including that a

470
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:06.559
former w champion Gender Mahall, who
will wrestle seth rollins for the World of

471
00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:11.960
Theweight Championship on next week's w w
raw. Con posted on Twitter quote a

472
00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:17.319
double standard hook he does hook's handle
twenty eight to one career record on winning

473
00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:23.839
street, calls out the champsamojoe a
logical challenge, sparks online online online outrage

474
00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:29.519
Gender has literally lost every single match
he's in for the past year. Immediately

475
00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:34.720
gets title shot. Where is the
rage? Hashtag aw dynamite tomorrow on TBS,

476
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:41.160
he tweets, not satisfied with just
one outburst. Con then took his

477
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:48.279
war against them hall to USA Network
directly. USA Network tweeted, replying to

478
00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:52.039
Raj Gurie, who is a wrestling
journalist, quote, what was the cage

479
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:57.240
match rating? Tony Kahan responded,
A morale victory for USA is one win

480
00:31:57.359 --> 00:32:01.839
more than their world title challenge or
Gender Mahall has in the past three hundred

481
00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:05.880
and sixty four days, because it's
been literally a full year since he won

482
00:32:05.920 --> 00:32:08.799
a match. Con wrote, quote, tweeting a post from the night before

483
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:14.119
in which the USA Network's official account
made a joke about cage match, which

484
00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:19.960
is CON's often cited source for the
quality of his programming. Quote, you

485
00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:22.599
really put Awn r place getting Gender
Mahall in a big match on your TV

486
00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:28.359
show? Do it more often?
CON's tweets to not go unnoticed. WWE

487
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:35.319
broadcaster Corey Graves was quick to tweet
support for gender Mahall. He tweeted gender

488
00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:43.599
Rules. Billy Ray reacted to Corey
Graves's tweet with a pop. Dax Harwood

489
00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:47.079
seemingly fired back to Graves' tweet with
a similar message, saying hook rules,

490
00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:54.079
hashtag aw dynamite, and then Gender
Mahall responded to Tony Kahn's tweet, who

491
00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:59.759
TF For those who don't know what
that means, the fuck is hook question

492
00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:04.880
mark and then in capital letters watch
Monday Night Raw on at USA Network Monday,

493
00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:10.440
eight pm Eastern making fun of Tony
Khan. Tony Khan has also gone

494
00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:15.079
off on Eric Bischoff, who responded
to all these tweets of Tony Khan by

495
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:22.519
putting a clown emoji. Tony Khan
was like basically calling him out on stuff

496
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:30.079
and the same old Tony Khan bs. Quite honestly, I saw this Doctor

497
00:33:30.119 --> 00:33:36.400
Trey like the tweet from USA Network
is gold because they take a shot at

498
00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:43.640
Tony Khan. Tony Khan has really
thin skin, like really thin skin,

499
00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:45.759
And I know that this is going
to come off like, well, he's

500
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:49.960
defending his product, but how about
you just don't respond at all, Like

501
00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:55.039
I don't care what his thoughts are
on gender Mahal, Like I get it

502
00:33:55.559 --> 00:34:00.400
right, the gender mahal stuff,
Like, yeah, he probably shouldn't be

503
00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:02.559
getting a role title match. Tony
Khan is not wrong in that sense,

504
00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:07.519
but Dustin Rhodes should not be taken
on one of your top stars Swarve Strickland

505
00:34:07.679 --> 00:34:12.920
to fill in for an injury replacement
for over twenty five minutes or wherever the

506
00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:15.760
hell it was. I'll actually look
it up at your pay per view,

507
00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:19.840
like it makes sense, but make
it a squash match, like they should

508
00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:23.199
have ended it with the cement block
and that was it. Like I know

509
00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:28.360
that there was a mention about well
Abadon got a title match against Julia Hart,

510
00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:30.000
and Tony Kah came back and said, well, she won a fatal

511
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:36.639
four way she was gone for a
while. It's just so damn stupid.

512
00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:39.599
Which, by the way, according
to Wikipedia, the Swart Strickland Dustin Roads

513
00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:44.519
match went for nine minutes and thirty
seconds. But I think the overall segment

514
00:34:44.559 --> 00:34:46.639
was well over fifteen to twenty minutes. Yeah, it was wayla And I

515
00:34:46.679 --> 00:34:50.280
know this is all breaking to you, doctor Trey, because it all took

516
00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:53.840
place literally hours before you and I
sat down to do a podcast tonight.

517
00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:58.239
Yeah. I'm only laughing because in
my head, I'm like, Okay,

518
00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:01.000
when Jinner won the world title a
few years ago, you and I were

519
00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:06.119
both like, what the hell like? But Jender had a decent run.

520
00:35:06.519 --> 00:35:08.960
Wasn't the best roun in the world, but it wasn't bad. But he

521
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:14.519
has also been injured for most of
the last three hundred and sixty five days,

522
00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:19.079
so that's probably not why he hasn't
really won a match in last three

523
00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:23.079
season five days because he was injured
for most of that. But the guy

524
00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:28.880
does hold wins over shins k Nakamura
and Randy Orans form a world champion.

525
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:35.519
Hook is twenty years old and beat
Wheeler Yuda, so there is a difference

526
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:39.880
in the credibility behind that. So
is Tony con gonna say the miz who

527
00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:46.719
just won his first match in over
a year two weeks ago because he hasn't

528
00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:50.119
won to match the years and deserving
of a title shot, even though the

529
00:35:50.119 --> 00:35:57.920
guy's held every title in ww twice
at least, Like wins and losses are

530
00:35:57.960 --> 00:36:00.960
great. If you're trying to build
somebody but was already built, it doesn't

531
00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:05.599
matter anymore, you know. It's
to me, like, that's the epitomy

532
00:36:05.639 --> 00:36:08.559
of like of your like you said, being thin skinned. And if if

533
00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:10.920
I had been gender Mahal, I
would have been like, who or who

534
00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:16.599
tf is Hook send Vere like I
would have played off that. But it's

535
00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:21.360
just it's mind boggling to me that
the owner of a company is going to

536
00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:24.639
get mad that somebody else that get
shot at his company because of that.

537
00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:29.719
Like, it's just it's the whole
thing to me is laughable at best,

538
00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:32.320
because I mean, as much as
we love to kind of poke at gender,

539
00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:36.760
do you look at his credibility the
guy, you know, it has

540
00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:40.719
been a credible as incredible history.
He arguably is a borderline Hall of Famer

541
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:47.400
based on his career in WWE.
So and like I said, Hook is

542
00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:52.199
twenty years old and just beat Wheeler
Yuda and his biggest win is probably over

543
00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:58.400
Jack Perry. Yeah. Yeah,
I mean here's the thing, right,

544
00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:02.320
I'm strolling through Twitter as you talking
Dustin Rhodes tweets out, guys with a

545
00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:06.000
bunch of dot dot dot dot dot, just enjoy wrestling. We love to

546
00:37:06.039 --> 00:37:08.920
do it for you. Light up
on the tribalism as I keep stepping like

547
00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:13.960
USA Network. Yeah, they had
a subtle tweet at Tony Kahan, but

548
00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:20.320
why respond right, like, why
respond the whole thing? I actually like

549
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:22.639
that genders get a title match.
I'm not the biggest gender Mahaal fan of

550
00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:27.840
all time, obviously, but I
like he was in the ring with the

551
00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:31.519
Rock a week ago. He's in
the ring with a segment for Seth Ronds.

552
00:37:31.559 --> 00:37:36.960
It makes sense the progression here,
and I like that they didn't just

553
00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:39.280
completely bury gender Mahall with the segment
with the Rock, which I think any

554
00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:43.800
wrestler would be, like, you're
not being buried when you're in the ring

555
00:37:43.960 --> 00:37:50.239
with one of the biggest recognizable faces
and entertainment in the United States and the

556
00:37:50.280 --> 00:37:53.440
world with one hundred and seventy one
plus million views on social media. Because

557
00:37:53.519 --> 00:37:58.119
Wodo likes to trumpet that like crazy, you're in the ring with that,

558
00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:01.320
that isn't necessarily a burial. He
almost gets rewarded by having a saying with

559
00:38:01.360 --> 00:38:05.440
Seth Ron's a week later and then
gets rewarded again with having a match.

560
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:09.559
I like that they're kind of,
you know, rebooting gender a little bit

561
00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:14.039
here. Unless Jenner get squashed on
this Monday's edition in RAW. I mean,

562
00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:16.480
this isn't happening at the Royal Rumble. It's happening on RAW. I

563
00:38:16.639 --> 00:38:22.119
like the progression here. I kind
of dig the creative doctor Trey. Yeah,

564
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:27.119
and once again, is anybody it's
a main event on Monday Night Raw.

565
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:30.280
It's not the main event of a
PL it's not the main event of

566
00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:34.119
Royal Rumble. It's the main event
of a Monday Night Raw. And also

567
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:40.559
their champion asked for the match,
which is st storyline driven hook somemo.

568
00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:46.000
Joe didn't ask to Wressell hook hook
what's going after the champ And that's kind

569
00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:49.719
of how you set up a storyline. And if he had just let it

570
00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:52.679
go and let it play it on
TV the way that you're supposed to do

571
00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:57.239
it, people have been like,
oh, this is kind of like Joe

572
00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:00.159
against Baby Task. I can get
all with this, and there's a lot

573
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:05.639
of similarities and that that way it
would have worked. But to start taking

574
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:10.679
shots at the other people's product because
your feelings got hurt now diminishes what you're

575
00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:14.960
trying to do. Like I don't
think w F now if Waba said,

576
00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:16.840
hey, the main event of the
Royal Rumble is gonna be Seth Rawn's against

577
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:21.199
Gender Mahal, yeah, there would
have been an uproar. But to be

578
00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:24.239
the main event of a Monday Night
Raw, I don't think the fans are

579
00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:29.920
expecting much of this, and this
is probably setting up something else for Seth

580
00:39:29.960 --> 00:39:32.000
to do at the Rumble. So
you let it go and you play off

581
00:39:32.039 --> 00:39:36.159
of it, and you're right,
like Gender's not out there. It wasn't

582
00:39:36.159 --> 00:39:39.559
like Gender's out there with you know, random NXT call up. He's out

583
00:39:39.559 --> 00:39:43.840
there in the ring with the Rock. Then he's out there in the ring

584
00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:47.400
with Seth Rollins. That's how you've
building credibility up. And then your announcers

585
00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:52.639
bringing the fact that hey, he's
a former world champion who had a who

586
00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:57.119
has victories over Randy Orton and Schinz
k Nakamora, who main event in Monday

587
00:39:57.199 --> 00:40:00.000
Night Raw that night. That's how
you build the credibility able to have to

588
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:05.519
do win win loss records. It
makes sense. The full thing is really

589
00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:07.199
silly. I mean, when I
saw Hook challenging Samoa Joe. When I

590
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:08.920
heard him say, like, I
want to go for a title, I'm

591
00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:10.760
like, man, is he gona? They're going to go like the Orange

592
00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:14.559
Cassid route. And when they said
I'm going to go for the world championship,

593
00:40:14.599 --> 00:40:17.480
I was like, ohh that's boy, that's bold. But it's the

594
00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:22.960
beginning of it. And I always
kind of dig like I'm One of my

595
00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:27.920
favorite matches of all time is July
eleventh, nineteen ninety four, the one

596
00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:31.679
two three Kid took on Brett Hart
for the w WF Championship on Monday Night

597
00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:37.039
Raw, and he was a complete
under underdog, and it's a phenomenal match,

598
00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:39.559
maybe one of the greatest matches in
raw history. And I like that

599
00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:44.400
stuff, like if Samoa Joe is
able to help put over Hook a little

600
00:40:44.440 --> 00:40:46.280
bit, then that's really good for
his character. I mean, yeah,

601
00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:52.280
I did I have massive online outrage, but no whatsoever. I mean I

602
00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:53.599
was kind of like, wow,
that's bold. I didn't see them going

603
00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:58.039
in that direction. Maybe Hook versus
Eddie Kingston that would have been pretty cool,

604
00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:00.599
but they're going for the top dog. They're going for Coude gra and

605
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:04.440
I just so creatively it works out
well. I think to me the biggest

606
00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:07.639
thing is the creative of Ginger Mahal. Yes he has it one in a

607
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:10.039
while, but on the short term
it makes sense as to why seth Ron's

608
00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:15.599
whatever a problem with him challenging for
the title. Blah blah blah. Aw

609
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:22.679
creative most of the time is intermittent, discombobulated, not smooth. It's a

610
00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:27.440
pumpy road sometimes, And I think
that's what Tony Kahan needs to be taking

611
00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:30.320
a look at a little bit,
because what WWE is doing creatively is working.

612
00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:35.840
What AW is doing creatively, quite
frankly, is not. In all

613
00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:37.920
honesty and the Twitter stuff. It's
a huge turnoff for me as a fan.

614
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:39.519
Dout Trail. At the end of
the day, like, I love

615
00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:44.800
the AW product. I will watch
Dynamite, I watch Collision Rampage, I'll

616
00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:47.559
watch the pay per views. I'll
continue to be a fan. But it's

617
00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:52.280
it's like it's like being a fan
of a sports team. This like almost

618
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:55.840
I guess you and I are both
NFL fans, Niners fan, doctor Tream

619
00:41:55.880 --> 00:42:00.599
a Packers fan. This can be
compared terrible to being like a fan of

620
00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:06.800
the Washington Commanders, the former Redskins
when Dan Snyder was in charge, right,

621
00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:09.639
Like, you love your team.
You're with them when they're good,

622
00:42:09.719 --> 00:42:13.519
you're with them when they're bad,
you're with them when they're mediocre. But

623
00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:19.239
the person running the ship is a
looney, batshit crazy asshole sometimes, Oh

624
00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:22.440
you're And that's what you guys have, that you're a Yankee fad you used

625
00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:24.320
to have. George Steinbrenner, That
is true. That is the same thing

626
00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:29.199
as well. And it's like you
love them when you're doing good and you

627
00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:31.119
dislike them when they're doing bad.
That's how I kind of feel right now.

628
00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:35.760
It's like I love aw but I
just wish he stayed off a Twitter.

629
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:39.599
I don't need him to like stoke
the flames and in all honesty,

630
00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:43.360
like and I don't know if this
is tongue in cheet, I don't know

631
00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:45.719
if they know one another, but
I don't like that he's you know,

632
00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:51.679
pushing, you know, running Ginger's
name down like that. And I don't

633
00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:54.199
like that Ginger's running Hook's name down
like that. Like we don't need that

634
00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:58.280
shit unless they're dming one another and
being like, hey man, just playing

635
00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:00.840
this up. This is just you
know, work, working the fans and

636
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:05.239
all that stuff, fine, but
there's no need to like take a shot

637
00:43:05.239 --> 00:43:08.360
in a wrestler like gender from another
company in my opinion. Yeah, and

638
00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:12.960
you know, I don't know if
they know each other. I don't.

639
00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:16.239
I don't think hook knows gender mahal. I don't think really gender is run

640
00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:20.239
in Tony Kahn circles. But at
the end of the day, all you're

641
00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:23.039
doing is there's all saying like you
don't you never bury your opponent. You

642
00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:25.400
kind of give them props. It
is that way when you beat them,

643
00:43:25.719 --> 00:43:30.199
like you actually beat somebody. And
if you bury your opponent and then you

644
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:34.199
beat them, you didn't beat anybody. You beat a nobody. And that's

645
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:37.880
one of the little takeaways from you
know, pro wrestling, pro bo one

646
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:40.639
oh one that I've always kind of
you know, taken to with the in

647
00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:44.760
everyday life, like I'd never bury
like in my line of work, like

648
00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:47.440
I'm competing against other products, I
don't bury any other products. I always

649
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:50.199
say, hey, these are good, these are good. Ours is just

650
00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:52.920
better, you know, because then
if you choose us, you chose us

651
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:57.639
because we're the best, not because
everybody else sucks. It's the same thing

652
00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:02.519
here, I will say d also
don't forget Seth Just Russell drewmackintire. He's

653
00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:07.400
now wrestling Gender Mahal. Both members
are three mb both for WOR World champions.

654
00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:09.639
This leads to return of Heaths later
at the Royal Robe to challenge Seth

655
00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:15.360
Rawlins. Yeah, no, I
hear you, I hear it's just uh

656
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:21.639
got kids kids, he does.
Yeah, wrestling Twitter is uh is going

657
00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:24.000
off right now? That's certainly what
it is, and it's just kind of

658
00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:27.599
at the end of the day,
it's dumb. It's all dumb, dumb,

659
00:44:27.679 --> 00:44:32.239
dumb um carrying on here from Gender
Mahall back at the day one edition

660
00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:37.800
of Monday Night Raw the Rock returned, he called out Roman Reigns Doctor Trey.

661
00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:40.239
Uh, I gotta be honest with
you. I watched it live,

662
00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:45.920
loved when the Rock came out.
Immediately was like, Wow, where is

663
00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:50.039
this going? I hope this is
not just a one time deal. And

664
00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:52.039
uh, I should have seen it
coming. But I don't know about you.

665
00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:54.159
I don't know if I was tired
it was New Year's Day. I

666
00:44:54.199 --> 00:44:58.199
don't know if I was coming off
of being up late to watch the ball

667
00:44:58.239 --> 00:45:05.639
drop for no fucking reason. I
Uh, when he started saying should I

668
00:45:05.679 --> 00:45:07.719
want to go out and eat?
Should I sit in a booth or sit

669
00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:10.079
at the bar? I was like, where the hell is he going?

670
00:45:10.199 --> 00:45:14.280
And then it like at that moment
it clicked in. I was like,

671
00:45:14.400 --> 00:45:16.280
or should I sit at the head
of the table, Like I popped for

672
00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:20.079
that one. It caught me off
guard, which means I was off my

673
00:45:20.119 --> 00:45:22.519
a game, I think, unless
maybe you were following it as well and

674
00:45:22.559 --> 00:45:25.000
you're like, is he going there? It caught me off guard, but

675
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:29.400
I love it. We don't know
when this match is going to be taking

676
00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:32.719
place. There's some thoughts that Perth
Australia wants to Rocket elimination chamber. That

677
00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:37.920
doesn't necessarily mean he'll wrestle Roman Reigns
an elimination chamber. We do know what

678
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:40.880
Roman Rangs's match will beat the Royal
Roombol, which we'll cover here momentarily in

679
00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:46.840
the direction there. But could we
be getting Roman versus Rocket wrestle Mainey forty.

680
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:51.199
Nonetheless, it seems like here in
the first quarter of twenty twenty four

681
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:53.880
Dot Trey, not only do we
get the Rocks in ring return, but

682
00:45:53.960 --> 00:45:58.360
it's going to be against Roman Reigns. It's just when and where do we

683
00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:00.440
think this match will happen. Yeah. So, by the way, this

684
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:04.639
goes back to when we did our
Bull like our WrestleMania preview prediction show,

685
00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:08.719
I took Rock and Roman off my
car because of you, same saying I

686
00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:12.800
took it off because of me as
well, So you're not alone. We're

687
00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:15.199
both in agreement on that one.
It was all my fault because that was

688
00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:17.760
my pick for a while and I
was like, Okay, I'm gonna go

689
00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:22.320
with Jeff on this one and take
it off the car. But like watching

690
00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:27.360
it, it was weird because the
segment with gender was kind of done and

691
00:46:27.400 --> 00:46:29.840
then they were winding it down.
I'm like, okay, this is where

692
00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:31.320
he gets some little jokes here and
gets his little stuff in there. And

693
00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:34.119
then I was like, I'm gonna
go out to eat. I'm like,

694
00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:37.480
is he about to make a Sea
World joke about being the mammal with the

695
00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:40.119
largest penis or something. I was
waiting. I didn't know where it was

696
00:46:40.199 --> 00:46:45.039
going, and then I caught I
was like, oh, I see what

697
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:50.360
he did there. I'm like,
damn, they're lining up everybody to go

698
00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:52.320
after Rome. Because Punk called about
a couple of weeks ago, you still

699
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:54.760
got Cody fishing this story. Now
I got the Rock in the bakes.

700
00:46:54.800 --> 00:47:00.480
I'm like, this is gonna be
a really really interesting Wrestle Maybius because you

701
00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:04.320
know, you go back, you
know, it wasn't that long ago we

702
00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:07.360
did Rock and Sina and it was
Rock defeating CM Punk, you know,

703
00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:12.320
right before Wrestle Media to be rub
I think it was to become the world

704
00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:15.519
champion, to lead into that match
with Sina. So it's like, wow,

705
00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:19.280
there's a lot of moving parts here. I'm just waiting for Punk to

706
00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:22.760
come out and start calling him Dwayne
all the time again. All that fun

707
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:28.840
stuff like this made Wrestle Media season
way more interesting than already was, and

708
00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:31.559
it was already beginning to be a
very very interesting Wrestle Media season. Yeah,

709
00:47:31.559 --> 00:47:35.280
because there's so many different directions right
now. There's a lot of people

710
00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:38.559
gunning for the World Championship, both
of them the world hey winning championship in

711
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:43.320
the undisputed Universal Championship, and that's
how it should be heading into the Royal

712
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:45.400
Rumble. Like the amount of intrigued
for this match. Drew McIntyre wants to

713
00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:49.599
shot, Cody Rhades wants to shot. He wants to finish his story,

714
00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:52.159
see him. Punk wants a shot, he wants to headline WrestleMania, and

715
00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:55.320
you've got the Rock looming, like, okay, so how is the Rock

716
00:47:55.440 --> 00:48:01.320
going to earn that championship match.
My feeling and my thoughts are is that

717
00:48:01.360 --> 00:48:05.960
this is not gonna be some sort
of segment where Rock is going to challenge

718
00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:08.079
Roman reigns to a match, Roman
accepts it, and then we have the

719
00:48:08.079 --> 00:48:13.480
match at WrestleMania. I think Rock
is wrestling an elimination chamber. I think

720
00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:16.119
the winner of the Royal Rumble will
be the person who challenges for the will

721
00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:21.000
Avyweight Championship, and then that Universal
title will be a shot will be on

722
00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:22.840
the line in an elimination chairer match, and I think the Rock wrestles in

723
00:48:22.840 --> 00:48:27.280
that elimination chamber match. I think
we end up getting Rock and Roman for

724
00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:30.559
Wrestling forty and I'm fine with that. I'm a fan of Cody Rhodes.

725
00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:32.760
I want to see him finish his
story, but if it means that we

726
00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:37.239
take a little bit of a different, you know, half time break from

727
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:40.960
that and do it save it for
maybe a Summer Slam or maybe Wrestle eighty

728
00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:45.639
forty one. But as long as
we eventually get there. I think Rock

729
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:49.039
and Roman is the direction of what
they need to do, and they need

730
00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:53.079
that for WRESTLINGA forty in my opinion. So you think it's Rock all,

731
00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:58.960
you think Rock's actually in the chamber
match itself or one on one with the

732
00:48:59.039 --> 00:49:02.840
Rumble winner. You mean, do
I think he wrestles the rumble winner?

733
00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:07.119
Well, no, I'm saying,
like you said, the shot at the

734
00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:09.920
oversual titles on the line at Elimination
Chamber, do you see it, because

735
00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:15.440
I I think that would be I
think what they do is whoever wins the

736
00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:21.400
Rumble is the one who challenges for
the World Heavyweight Championship, And I would

737
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:24.679
say at Elimination Chamber, you have
an elimination Chamber match and the winner of

738
00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:30.159
that is the one who gets the
title shot for the Universal title at Wresselman

739
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:34.360
forty, which they've done that type
of booking in the past. Yeah.

740
00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:37.599
My only thing with that is Rock's
fifty, and that's not the easiest match

741
00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:40.960
to be in for the first especial
for your first match back in Yeah.

742
00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:44.719
Ye. Now, I would not
condone this because I'm not a fan of

743
00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:46.480
this. This is like brock Lesner
type booking, and I think they used

744
00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:50.199
to do this with the Undertaker as
well when he would be in elimination chamber

745
00:49:50.280 --> 00:49:52.679
matches. But you do have if
you have the raw, come out last.

746
00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:54.639
Yeah, and he said there for
five to ten minutes, which is

747
00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:59.480
not my favorite thing to do,
but that could be a way they could

748
00:49:59.519 --> 00:50:04.079
protect him. So I I do
like the WrestleMania idea. My other idea

749
00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:08.679
was like, you set this up
to get the Summer Slam also, because

750
00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:13.360
there's nothing there. You can still
do Rock and Johnstone against Solo at Roman.

751
00:50:14.679 --> 00:50:16.960
I think that, but I think
that they're you're saying that for WrestleMania.

752
00:50:17.639 --> 00:50:20.679
Well, no, no, not
for media. I think you start

753
00:50:20.719 --> 00:50:24.000
settling in the groundwork for the magazine
Rock and Roman. But I think they're

754
00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:27.719
doing it soon though I don't think
you tease it. I don't think you

755
00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:30.679
tease it on January first, and
don't do it at the Rumble or WrestleMania.

756
00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:35.079
I don't think you're setting it up
for Summer Slam. I just I

757
00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:37.639
don't know. The part of me
is just like I feel bad if it's

758
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:42.320
not Cody and Roman at wrestle you
know, like I hear you, I

759
00:50:42.360 --> 00:50:44.519
hear you, but that could add
to it a little bit, right,

760
00:50:44.559 --> 00:50:47.920
that could add to the the story
being written. Yeah, but then do

761
00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:52.000
you have Roman beat the Rock at
WrestleMania? Hold on, let's let's just

762
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:55.320
throw this out there. Does Cody
need to beat Roman at WrestleMania for this

763
00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:59.599
story to and him to become world
champion to be complete? Or can he

764
00:50:59.679 --> 00:51:02.159
do it a SummerSlam? No?
I think he needs a I really think,

765
00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:06.480
especially after losing last year, I
think he needs a wrestled Badia moment.

766
00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:10.239
What's the what's the money maker?
Is it Cody Roman? Like talk

767
00:51:10.760 --> 00:51:15.800
talk, as a as a wrestling
fan and as someone that looks at it

768
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:17.800
as a business. What is the
money match? And what is the wrestling

769
00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:22.719
fan match? The wrestling fan match
is Cody and Roman agreed? And then

770
00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:25.960
the money match though is rock and
Rollman because you're gonna get all the eyes

771
00:51:27.000 --> 00:51:30.599
in the world. But then it's
like, do you slide Cody into the

772
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:32.400
seth of Rollins, seem Punks us
and make it a triple for that match,

773
00:51:34.639 --> 00:51:38.880
because if you take Cody out of
the Roman match, who who's another

774
00:51:38.920 --> 00:51:42.079
big heel? I mean, is
it drew Back and Tire? Then you

775
00:51:42.079 --> 00:51:45.360
can slot him in with and that's
still I could see that direction. I

776
00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:47.760
think Drew and Cody would be a
lot of fun actually, and I thought

777
00:51:47.800 --> 00:51:52.079
that was a direction they were going
to go once Drew started teasing being a

778
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:57.559
heel and was like, it was
because you know Cody that jay Usso was

779
00:51:57.559 --> 00:52:00.800
brought to Raw, like that would
make sense. And they didn't do that

780
00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:02.639
right away, and I thought that
was the direction. I think because he

781
00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:07.559
left. I think he like didn't
help Cody out who was getting a beat

782
00:52:07.599 --> 00:52:10.960
down or something like that. He
made the say for jay Uso and I

783
00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:13.840
was like, ooh, I think
they're gonna go. And we talked about

784
00:52:13.880 --> 00:52:15.920
the podcast. It was like,
I think they're gonna go Cody and Drew,

785
00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:19.719
and they didn't, which shocked me. And they may be saving that

786
00:52:19.800 --> 00:52:23.280
as a plan b if Rock was
coming for Rustlemania to take on Roman.

787
00:52:23.840 --> 00:52:27.239
Yeah, I think, and I
think we talked about it back then that

788
00:52:27.280 --> 00:52:32.199
this may be laying that backup plan
if they if they are able to get

789
00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:35.840
the Rock, because back then we
were talking about I think they have them,

790
00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:38.440
yeah right, and then they kind
of moved away from it. This

791
00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:42.440
is where I go back to we
talked about it a few like a couple

792
00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:47.199
of months ago. Like I always
buy into now the additional reports that come

793
00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:51.559
out, and then when they backpedal
and we go, okay, they're backpedaling,

794
00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:53.719
they're not going to do this,
and then the initial reports always comes

795
00:52:53.800 --> 00:52:59.079
true. It's like, Yeah,
they talked about Rock and Rope at wrestled

796
00:52:59.079 --> 00:53:01.119
Madia fortyfi, and we talked about
the show, like how cool would that

797
00:53:01.159 --> 00:53:07.840
be because it was the rumble in
Philadelphia when they booed you know, Roman

798
00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:09.480
out of the building, the Rocks
out there trying to save and the crowd

799
00:53:09.599 --> 00:53:13.599
was going DUTs. That was in
Philadelphia, Like how cool would that be

800
00:53:13.639 --> 00:53:15.719
to come full circle that that's your
big money batch in Philadelphia is Rock and

801
00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:20.880
Roman. And also all these reports
came out that all they can't get Rock

802
00:53:20.920 --> 00:53:22.760
to create anything. The schedule's crazy, that the writer strikes over. If

803
00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:28.639
everybody's back to acting as our stuff, I'm just gonna start taking first sure

804
00:53:29.159 --> 00:53:30.280
thoughts when they come out, and
that's where we're gonna go with them that

805
00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:37.000
one. So yeah, so I
think the right time for the match Rock

806
00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:40.760
and Romans Russell Maani forty what do
you say, Doctor Trey? Ultimately,

807
00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:45.880
yeah, I mean that's what they
teased on the Young Rock It had to

808
00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:50.760
be a WrestleMania match, So yeah, I think I mean from a business

809
00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:55.320
standboy point to really awesome. If
you really want to push some distance between

810
00:53:55.360 --> 00:54:00.119
yourself and your number two, Yeah, you bring back arguably the big his

811
00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:04.280
name in wrestling to compete at wrestle
Media against family as well. So there's

812
00:54:04.320 --> 00:54:07.519
so much intrigue. Oh my gosh, Jeff, we might be able to

813
00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:10.119
get the Rocks mob involved, like
we talked about a couple of years ago.

814
00:54:10.280 --> 00:54:14.920
I did pitch that idea and Doctor
Trey loveda So stay tuned. I

815
00:54:14.920 --> 00:54:16.960
will have a lot to talk about
Rock and Roman here in the coming weeks.

816
00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:21.440
I do want to mention again the
Rumble match right now. There's a

817
00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:23.840
lot of good booking going into that
men's Rumble match right now that I'm really

818
00:54:23.880 --> 00:54:28.280
excited about. It's like a horse
race of who wants a title shot,

819
00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:30.119
and that's how it should be really
good creative booking right now. By w

820
00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:32.840
heading into that match, one of
my favorites of the year, the Royal

821
00:54:32.920 --> 00:54:38.480
Rumble. Speaking of Roman reigns and
the Royal Rumble, we has gone with

822
00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:43.800
a fatal four way match for Roman
reigns his next big title match at the

823
00:54:43.880 --> 00:54:46.840
Rumble, He'll be taking on Randy
Or and aj Styles and La Night.

824
00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:51.599
The belief from at least me,
I know we debated this just before the

825
00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:53.480
Holidays, was that I thought it
was gonna be Roman, Rains and Randy

826
00:54:53.599 --> 00:54:58.400
Orn at the Rumble. Dave Meltzer
had the following quote in regards to that,

827
00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:00.960
saying, the original idea was Roman
and Randy Orton for the Rumble.

828
00:55:01.519 --> 00:55:05.480
Essentially, there were parties involved who
did not want to beat Randy Orton this

829
00:55:05.559 --> 00:55:07.320
early and just felt that there's money
to be made with Randy Orton Roman in

830
00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:12.719
a program at some point, but
it's too soon to do it. Doctor

831
00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:15.920
Trey. I like that thinking,
and it makes a ton of sense.

832
00:55:15.800 --> 00:55:20.559
I like that thinging too, because
what that also creates is if your long

833
00:55:20.679 --> 00:55:23.440
term booking is you know, Rock
and Rolling, Normania, Rock and Cody

834
00:55:23.480 --> 00:55:27.239
fishing the story and then you still
got the Randy Orton stuff in there,

835
00:55:27.320 --> 00:55:30.360
that means Rock's not going I mean
that means Roman's not going away anytime soon,

836
00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:32.800
which is always of our worries where
it gets to Wrestle Badia season.

837
00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:37.840
So because as long as Roman's on
TV. It's entertaining and it keeps us

838
00:55:38.239 --> 00:55:43.960
intrigued. You know they're they're right, and it says like Orton has I

839
00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:46.320
mean, his pops have been massive
since he came back, Like the crowd

840
00:55:46.440 --> 00:55:52.119
is really really loving the Brandy organ. I'm still wait to see how much

841
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:54.679
more leverage I can give with AJ. Stuck is AJ coming back? AJ

842
00:55:54.840 --> 00:55:58.920
looks phenomenal, so like all these
guys are coming back in the best shape

843
00:55:58.960 --> 00:56:01.440
of their careers. Plus La Night's
still super over with the crowd, so

844
00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:05.559
it makes a lot of sense to
get these building parts of it, because

845
00:56:05.599 --> 00:56:07.239
hey, do you set up La
Knight and AJ for media? Is La

846
00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:09.840
not? You know, what are
you doing with him? You start what

847
00:56:09.960 --> 00:56:14.000
you do with Aj. You had
the stuff with the club asking AJ why

848
00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:15.239
they didn't mention it, like,
you know, bring up to them that

849
00:56:15.320 --> 00:56:19.119
he was coming back. There's a
lot of moving parts, which I love

850
00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:21.960
this right now, the way the
book he's going. I don't know about

851
00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:25.000
you, but this it's attitude era, a top of the card esque.

852
00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:29.559
No, I'm not saying as far
as the writing and the adult stuff,

853
00:56:29.559 --> 00:56:34.480
but back in those days you could
mix and match any top any of the

854
00:56:34.519 --> 00:56:38.199
six or eight top stars of the
company to have compelling storylines breakout of it

855
00:56:38.719 --> 00:56:42.599
at any given moments. And that's
kind of where I feel like right now,

856
00:56:42.639 --> 00:56:45.360
We're like it's super top heavy,
but in a good way right now.

857
00:56:45.360 --> 00:56:49.519
In WWE, Yeah, I was
thinking that the other night when I

858
00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:52.800
was watching Raw, actually, when
they were promoting the Cody Road Chinsky Knackamor

859
00:56:52.920 --> 00:56:55.840
match. I'm like, the build
for this TV feud and match, this

860
00:56:55.920 --> 00:57:00.519
payoff match has been great. It's
been a lot of fun, and that's

861
00:57:00.559 --> 00:57:04.039
been a lot of their booking.
They were running vignettes for SmackDown and like

862
00:57:04.079 --> 00:57:07.280
this Friday SmackDown Bianca bell Air versus
Bailey, and I was like, that

863
00:57:07.320 --> 00:57:09.280
makes a ton of sense, and
I like that, and that's what aw

864
00:57:09.360 --> 00:57:12.599
was doing at one point as well, and then they kind of got away

865
00:57:12.599 --> 00:57:15.639
from it. They seem to only
do it with Dynamite for some reason,

866
00:57:15.679 --> 00:57:19.960
like have matches that make sense.
The other shows are really much like Seat

867
00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:23.559
of your Pants, But the creative
booking from w is like above and beyond

868
00:57:23.639 --> 00:57:29.199
what's going on in any other resting
promotion. Right now, moving forward here,

869
00:57:29.239 --> 00:57:30.280
we just got a couple of things
we want to quickly hit. Kevin

870
00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:36.400
Dunn retired from WE. He was
the W Executive producer in chief of Global

871
00:57:36.400 --> 00:57:39.320
television Distribution. He was with the
company for over thirty years. He started

872
00:57:39.360 --> 00:57:44.920
back in ninety three. He was
fitzick Man's right hand man on the TV

873
00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:47.880
production side and responsible for a lot
of famous shots that we've seen over the

874
00:57:49.000 --> 00:57:52.960
years. And you're starting to see
changes in W's very subtle changes in w's

875
00:57:52.960 --> 00:57:59.039
TV production. This past Monday's edition
of Raw. If anybody was watching closely,

876
00:57:59.320 --> 00:58:02.480
I love the Tomasso Champa promo where
he was walking out to the ring

877
00:58:02.519 --> 00:58:07.440
with Johnny Gargano going out for his
match with Finn Baller. I thought that

878
00:58:07.519 --> 00:58:10.880
was great. There's these little subtle
changes that we're seeing in their production and

879
00:58:10.920 --> 00:58:15.760
how they're taking the television element that
I'm really digging right now. And it's

880
00:58:15.800 --> 00:58:20.519
a little bit different stuff we haven't
seen in wrestling and is entertaining. It

881
00:58:20.599 --> 00:58:24.039
makes sense. So it's a big, big change here. Doctor Trey fitzig

882
00:58:24.079 --> 00:58:29.719
Man's former right hand man, Kevin
Dunn, responsible for television ONWE Television for

883
00:58:29.840 --> 00:58:34.639
well over thirty plus years, no
longer. The company's retired back on January

884
00:58:34.719 --> 00:58:37.280
one of this past year. Are
you surprised he made it this long since

885
00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:42.800
after Vince left? That thought is
that when Vince left, Kevin Dudd would

886
00:58:42.840 --> 00:58:46.119
leave shortly thereafter. Yeah. Yeah, and a lot of people we were

887
00:58:46.119 --> 00:58:50.039
shocked as well internally that he stayed
with the company as long as he did.

888
00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:52.480
Yeah. It we always kind of
felt like it might be like a

889
00:58:52.480 --> 00:58:54.760
transitionary here. But I mean it's
been almost a year and a half since

890
00:58:54.880 --> 00:58:59.920
Vince basically kind of left the company, So, I mean he was all

891
00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:01.880
also one of those lightning grads.
When people wanted to criticize WW, they

892
00:59:02.000 --> 00:59:06.760
blamed Kevin Dunn for stuff. So
but I mean for over thirty years,

893
00:59:06.800 --> 00:59:10.320
the guys, the television product has
never wavered. We've never said production in

894
00:59:10.440 --> 00:59:15.440
ww's lacking. It's always been creative
or something else. The TV shows have

895
00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:17.679
always looked great, The shots have
always been great. He was really really

896
00:59:17.679 --> 00:59:22.480
good in his role of those things. He was just maybe a little too

897
00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:24.679
stubborn to change with things because some
of the elements they're adding in or stuff

898
00:59:24.679 --> 00:59:29.400
that we've seen in other shows,
whether it's TNAAW, they're adding in some

899
00:59:29.519 --> 00:59:34.840
elements that you know a little bit
more behind the curtain type stuff that typically

900
00:59:34.960 --> 00:59:38.639
WW has never done unless it was
a produced shot kind of like you know,

901
00:59:38.760 --> 00:59:44.400
backstage dollars like that. We've never
really seen those pre entrance interviews like

902
00:59:44.440 --> 00:59:47.679
we've seen in other companies. So
they're taking some modern elements and adding into

903
00:59:47.719 --> 00:59:52.719
their bag of tricks, which is
something that Events Kevin Dunnshow probably would have

904
00:59:52.719 --> 00:59:54.480
never done. And the last thing
I want to come here is our first

905
00:59:54.639 --> 01:00:00.559
edition of the twenty twenty four Free
Agent Roundup. Or rumors that Andrade will

906
01:00:00.559 --> 01:00:05.639
be going to WWW that has not
taken place yet as we record this.

907
01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:09.480
Deanna Pirazzo goes from Impact Wrestling to
AW. She debuted on last week's edition

908
01:00:09.519 --> 01:00:15.079
of AW. Dynamite. Mercedes mone
is expected to land in AW. Maybe

909
01:00:15.119 --> 01:00:17.599
she debuted on Wednesdays edition of Dynamite, which has been rumored, but she

910
01:00:17.679 --> 01:00:22.880
was also rumored to debut the week
prior. Naomi is expected to return to

911
01:00:22.039 --> 01:00:28.960
w WI Trendingyfa Twu from Impact Wrestling
to WWW. Reportedly she will be in

912
01:00:29.000 --> 01:00:35.000
the Rubble Match it's looking like,
and former NWA Women's World Champion Camill is

913
01:00:35.079 --> 01:00:38.719
expected to be in WWE NXT here
soon, Doctor Trey. Those are our

914
01:00:38.719 --> 01:00:45.000
first little tidbits from the free agent
roundup of a big year ahead in twenty

915
01:00:45.039 --> 01:00:47.159
twenty four. Yeah, do you
know much about Camille Have you seen her

916
01:00:47.159 --> 01:00:53.239
before? I've not, it's been
a little bit, but I know that

917
01:00:53.320 --> 01:00:58.599
she's a great worker. I think
she did some stuff on AW television.

918
01:00:58.599 --> 01:01:00.719
I think she actually defended the Champian
Chip at a pay per view if I

919
01:01:00.719 --> 01:01:07.199
remember correctly. Yes, in the
early in the early year the Daily plays,

920
01:01:07.559 --> 01:01:12.039
Yeah, she's she's a she's a
really good worker. She looks like

921
01:01:12.079 --> 01:01:16.159
a million bucks, like she's like
I remember how how how in in love

922
01:01:16.199 --> 01:01:21.880
you were with Charlotte and NXC Camills
in that same kind of build motif of

923
01:01:21.920 --> 01:01:24.039
her, like, uh, but
that's a great signing. Leanna Barazzo is

924
01:01:24.039 --> 01:01:29.159
gonna be an underrated signing for a
W because she is a fantastic wrestler.

925
01:01:29.840 --> 01:01:35.519
Her work in TNA Impact was was, you know, phenomenal trinity. Coming

926
01:01:35.559 --> 01:01:37.960
back to W's gonna be interesting because
I want to see if they if they

927
01:01:37.960 --> 01:01:40.679
actually mixed her into the bloodline stuff, because, uh, since they broke

928
01:01:40.760 --> 01:01:45.960
up the diad that whole thing,
like Ave is now working with Sean Michaels,

929
01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:50.199
which is kind of odd, but
it's giving her some more promo times.

930
01:01:50.199 --> 01:01:52.360
So maybe they move they move Trinity
over into the stuff with Jimmy and

931
01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:55.079
Jay when we get to Wrestle Media
season, and that's a good tie in

932
01:01:55.199 --> 01:02:00.000
for that. So yeah. I
mean, also, I've been I've been

933
01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:05.599
hearing some out Alex Hammerston's one of
the guys we mentioned, you know previously,

934
01:02:05.719 --> 01:02:07.960
back in December. His MLW contract
came up, and there are some

935
01:02:08.039 --> 01:02:12.119
rebelies that w's looking inside him and
bring him into XC two. And that

936
01:02:12.199 --> 01:02:17.159
dude is one of those like just
incredibly built pro wrestlers they use. Look

937
01:02:17.159 --> 01:02:22.239
at yo. Yeah, that guy's
that guy is pro wrestling. I know

938
01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:25.840
he is due to take on Josh
Alexander TNA Hard to Kill this weekend.

939
01:02:27.119 --> 01:02:29.920
Yeah, and you know how much
I love Josh Alexanders. That's a huge

940
01:02:29.960 --> 01:02:34.320
fan. Really good So ago some
of our twenty twenty four free agent round

941
01:02:34.400 --> 01:02:37.000
up. I'm sure there's gonna be
more of this coming here. I expect

942
01:02:37.039 --> 01:02:40.679
some of those names like Andrade and
Mercedes Monet to have a home somewhere by

943
01:02:40.719 --> 01:02:43.840
the end of this month. Maybe
it will take place by the end of

944
01:02:43.880 --> 01:02:47.559
this week for all we know.
But that is everything that we missed during

945
01:02:47.599 --> 01:02:52.800
the holidays. Before we close up
shop on this week's sition of the podcast,

946
01:02:52.960 --> 01:02:54.199
let's get a couple of plugs and
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947
01:02:54.199 --> 01:02:58.960
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948
01:02:59.000 --> 01:03:01.199
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949
01:03:01.199 --> 01:03:05.559
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951
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952
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953
01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:19.039
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954
01:03:19.079 --> 01:03:22.519
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955
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956
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Championship Wrestling is. We just had
the Rocket City Rumble this past Saturday.

957
01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:35.239
Over four hundred and twenty seven fans
packed out the Rock and City Arena to

958
01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:39.599
watch action. Mike Jackson, the
seventy two year old wrestling feed on win

959
01:03:39.679 --> 01:03:45.760
the Rumble and guarantee of himself a
title shot at Wrestling Con seven coming up

960
01:03:45.880 --> 01:03:50.880
in May. I believe so just
one of my favorite shows the year.

961
01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:53.639
Great time I had to pull commentary
duties and ringing out some duties, so

962
01:03:53.880 --> 01:03:58.519
I'm amazed my voice is still working. Just a few days with the Posts

963
01:03:58.880 --> 01:04:00.719
wrestling cause it be sure, check
them out, check out Spart Championship Wrestling,

964
01:04:00.719 --> 01:04:03.880
But most importantly, go check out
your locally independent wrestling scene where you

965
01:04:03.880 --> 01:04:09.119
can find your Camilles, you'r Alex
Hammerstones, your mjfs, your Darby's,

966
01:04:09.119 --> 01:04:13.039
your Sami Gavarro with his seventy five
baby face heel turns in a year.

967
01:04:13.440 --> 01:04:16.800
Go check out those guys, because
that's what supports the lifeblood of professional wrestling.

968
01:04:17.119 --> 01:04:18.920
So there you go, so part
all the great things that support the

969
01:04:18.920 --> 01:04:23.519
story rail of the show and the
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970
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971
01:04:29.639 --> 01:04:33.360
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