March 8, 2024
Farewell to Sting and AEW Revolution Recap | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #734 – 3/7/24
On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:
- -- We recap & review "AEW Revolution!"
- -- Kazuchika Okada is All Elite...and shockingly aligns with "The Elite!"
- -- Paul Heyman and Bull Nakano are announced as the first inductees for the WWE...
On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:
- -- We recap & review "AEW Revolution!"
- -- Kazuchika Okada is All Elite...and shockingly aligns with "The Elite!"
- -- Paul Heyman and Bull Nakano are announced as the first inductees for the WWE Hall of Fame Class of 2024!
- -- And the latest WrestleMania 40 card round up!
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It's still welcome. Everybody. Welcome
to this week's edition is surreal to show
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as the number seven and thirty four
from Park seven, twenty twenty four.
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This is your aw Revolution, recap
and review edition of ass R Team You.
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I am one after the show,
I am Jeff Beck joined every single
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week my gost the one only Doctor
Trey Franklin. Doctor Trey. Was it
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bittersweet to say goodbye to sing my
friend? Actually yeah, I'm not gonna
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lie. Kind of was like I
was, actually, uh, you know,
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we talked about lasting's show, like
he's really like the last link to
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my initial fandom. And then I
remember we said Dustin Roads out there too,
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though, So I mean, uh
yeah, I guess Dustin and Sting
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are like my final links to my
childhood wrestling fandom. So yeah, it's
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it's it's it's a bit bittersweet,
but uh, I think all in all,
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I think the performance kind of made
up for it. Yeah, there's
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like a handful of guys left that
wrestled when I was a kid, Billy
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Gunn, Jeff Jarrett, Dustin Rhodes, and I think that's about it.
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Doctor Trey. There's really nobody else
left at this point when was when would
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you say, if you were going
to say, if you were a pinpoint
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of time, what year was your
was your birth into wrestling fandom? It
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would be like ninety three, ninety
four, ninety five era, So right
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around Hogan going to w CW,
like the last Summer Slam, Hogan Yokozuna
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and then Hogan going to w CW
time Yep, yep, that would be
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it. I wrestlemint Aten is the
one that I always think about, but
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I mean a cross the board.
Wwwwe I mean Jericho he kind of borderline.
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Well, so with Jerich went to
ECW and what nineteen ninety five,
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so He's I think probably like ninety
four to ninety six would be like the
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safe zone of like this is when
you were a kid growing up in impression
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wrestling, and Jericho's is just barely
in that era. I guess the ones
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that are definitely there Jeff Jarrett,
Billy Goahn, Dustin Rhodes. Yeah,
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I would say anybody about the age
of fifty two and up that is still
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active would be in your MILLIONU Like
so like me and John Cena are like
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the same age and like one month
apart, and I know he broke in
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around ninety seven when he started wrestling
in California and stuff for UPW. Yeah,
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so anybody that's around the age of
fifty and up that they're so active.
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So yeah, Jarrett, Jericho,
Billy Gunn, Dustin and that's yeah,
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that's out the top of my head. That's about it. Yeah,
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because there's like no real true veterans
on the w E side of that great
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length ever since Undertaker retired, I
know, Rock being back of kind of
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yeah, kind of Paul, I
mean, Paul Hayman would be in your
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list. Yeah, Hayman would be
Haymen because you know early WCW, Like
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I just saw a picture of him
with the head Shrinkers. I guess speaking,
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I guess RVD fits in there.
Yeah for you, yeah, like
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ninety six ish. For me,
it's basically Dustin because Dustin I think debuted
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in eighty nine. I remember one
of the first when I talked about it
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last week's show, like how I
found Sting. I think Bash at the
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Beach ninety four had the bunk house
fuck match, like where they were on
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a tractor trailer. Oh the black
top was that? Was that the black
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Well? There's the bunk House,
there was the bunk House, the bunk
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House Brawl where they're actually in like
a silo. Then there was the match
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with the black Top Bully, which
was in the back of the truck as
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it's going down the highway. Let
me look your bash at the beach ninety
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four real quick, Terry fucking bunk
House buck defeated Dustin Roads and Arn Anderson.
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That's the one where arn Anderson turns
on Dustin. Yeah. The next
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pay per view was Fall Brawl because
I remember that match. Was that on
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that card? That was a war
Games match? Where's a Halloween havoc one
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ninety before Halloween Havoc I'm looking at
here. Defeated to arn Anderson because I
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remember that bunk House buck match,
bunk match, I think it was.
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It was a bunk house brawl,
I think is what they called it.
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So was that what the one where
they were in the back of the No,
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that was the black top match because
it's basically the back of the truck
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going down the highway, fighting in
the back of basically like a moving pig
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pin type match, which was a
god awful match. But it's just they
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which have nobody I think. I
don't think anybody's ever done that again,
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No, I don't remember that one. Yeah, it's like Blacktop Bully here?
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Yeah, where am I I'm seeing
this right now? Just fall Brawl
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or something. Yeah, like Google's
are the Blacktop match? See why he
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comes? Yet I didn't realize that
was very Darcel. Oh is the black
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Top Bully? Yeah, that's why
I hercules Hernandez. It was the anniversary
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of his passing yesterday, I think
it was. And I forgot that he
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was in w CW as the Super
Invader. So oh, and something else
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I learned today, jeffl Oh,
it was a King of the Road match.
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I'm sorry, doctor try in the
uncensored nineteen ninety five. Okay,
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so King of the Road against the
black Top Bully. Yes, it was
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very Darcher's name. I did learned
today or two days ago that there was
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a tag team in a propession called
ICW that vinsick Man paid three thousand dollars
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for him to secure the rights to
their tag team name. The tag team
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name was the Undertakers, the Undertakers, and I never knew that. I
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never knew either. I will find
the picture of it. I'll post it
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on our Facebook page. Put this
physic man to secure the rights to the
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name the Undertaker had to pay a
tag team three thousand dollars because that was
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their name and they had the rights
to it. He paid them for supposedly
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paid them three thousand dollars and they
didn't look like early Undertaker. They didn't
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have the big hat of the oversized
giant tie, but they were dressed in
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black and had a little bit of
face paint. It hadn't earn and he
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supposed to paid them three thousand dollars
to secure the name for a character that
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he came up with, which became
the Undertaker. The Undertakers in ICW huh
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i WC iw so, so that
was a that's nothing like Puerto Rico.
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No, that's it's either the because
there's two iws. There's the Carlos one
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in Puerto Rico and there's also one
in Pennsylvania called the i GU it's like
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the International Wrestling Cartel, which is
a show that runs uh you know,
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Corey Graves worked that show a lot
in his early days. Because there's two
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shows around Pittsburgh and IWC's one and
PWX is the other one. There you
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got some wrestling history there I'm sure
I didn't think it was going to take
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us down this rabbit hole of the
King of the Road match, but here
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we are talking about it. Here
on this week's edition of sr T You
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Speaking to Classics. Doctor Trey AW
held the Revolution this past Sunday from the
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classic Greensboro Coliseum in Greensboro, North
Carolina. There are two things I know
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of this arena, Doctor Trey.
One obviously professional wrestling, and two I
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don't know if this falls into uh
into your wheelhouse as well, but every
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ACC tournament basketball tournament was held at
the Greensboro Coliseum and I remember that a
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lot as a kid in the nineties, and at one point was the home
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of the Charlotte Hornets for one season
when they were constructing the Charlotte Coliseum that
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they that they turned around and played
in. But yeah, Greensboro. It's
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funny. Actually, one of the
guys that I work with, that's one
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of the other managers, actually has
the Greensboro area and I was like,
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he was on a coffee the other
day, I'm like, oh, you're
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in Greensboro, like say you know
this and you know this, and I'm
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like, hey, man, are
you going to the AW show Saturday nine.
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He was like, man, I
ain't been wrestling and blah blah blah.
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But he grew up in that area
and he used to go to all
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the old WCWNWA shows back when he
was a kid. And he mentioned the
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a SEC tournament, So yeah,
those are kno gonna lie that. Like
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seeing sixteen thousand people in the coliseum
kind of gave me vibes back to those
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you know, late eighties, early
nineties ACC five or ACC tournament show Kate
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her show her games, and a
little bit of the old nwaw CW feuds
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from my childhood. I assume you
never saw a show there, doctor,
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try no, because I lived when
I when I was a kid in North
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Carolina, I lived roughly about two
two and a half hours away, and
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you know in the eighties, two
hours away is like a million miles.
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Yeah, three days away. Yeah, I mean I remember, like when
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I went to college with me and
my high school sweart broke up because I
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was moving eighty five miles away,
like the one Who's Gone away. Yeah,
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it's crazy to think how much it's
different now with the advent of cell
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phones and facetimes and you know,
all those things like that it's like,
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yeah, you can live like five
six seven hours away from my girlfriend is
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not a big deal. But back
in the day, man, that ninety
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miles was an eternity. So yeah, and then plus you know, we
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were we didn't have the money to
go to pay per views and stuff like
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that, so we were a house
show family. We didn't have pay per
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view money. Jeff, I hear
you, I hear you. My first
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wrestling show was a w WF event
in a local high school gym, so
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it was a long time for me
to ever make it a match to Square
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Garden as well. Let's get into
it. Pre show matches. You have
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the Bank Bank Scissor Gang defeating Private
Party, Willie Mac, Jeff, Chair
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Jay Lethal and Satam Sing in a
twelve person tag team match. We obviously
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did not predict this one. Simply
doctor try. I thought this was a
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great twelve person tag team match.
It was a fun match to kick off
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the entring porse of the show.
And these matches, as I've said many
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at times, it can typically be
cluster fs and this wasn't. This was
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a fun match. Yeah. I
mean, and two the people you mentioned
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to start the show, two people
of Jeff's you know, entry into professional
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wrestling. Jeff Jarrett and Billy gunns
Bill going strong, still looking like they
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did back in nineteen ninety six.
For the most part, they have not
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aged. Yeah, it was a
really really fun match, especially for like
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adding private Party to the mix.
And even though Bank Bank Sissor Gains been
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around for a mother too, they
really haven't worked together matches. So for
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all those moving parts to have a
pretty solid, fun opening match is great
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sokrudos those guys are pulling it off. And hey, we almost forgot about
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Jay White for a while, so
at least we got a little about Jay
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White payoff this past Wednesday as well. He does have a big match at
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the Big Business Show that will be
on AW Dynamite this upcoming Wednesday. Now.
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Chris stat Landar and Will Not Nightingale
defeated Julie Hart and sky Blue.
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We did not predict this match.
Great tag team match, fun back and
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forth between both teams, and there
was a storyline between both teams that made
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this pre show match make sense.
This is what we like about AW when
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they have matches that make sense,
which was a nearly huge portion of this
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entire card. That's Tray fun one
here on the pre show again. Yeah,
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and I'm still trying to figure out
and now once again I don't pay
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attention to the Willow Nightingale Chris stat
Landers storylines with that stuff very often.
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Still try to figure out the Stokely
Hathaway part of it myself, like T
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forgre how that fits in. I
just assume one of those, either Chris
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or Willow at some points when it's
heard to heel on the other one just
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because Stokely's there. But yeah,
like it's a storyline, it makes sense.
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The match was actually pretty solid for
four relatively new women wrestlers. They
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don't have a ton of experience,
and you know, just a good,
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solid women's tag team match that made
a lot of sense for everybody. Main
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card opener here, Christian Cage defeats
Daniel Garcia to retain the AWT and T
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Championship. Doctor Trent and both had
Christian Cage getting the victory. Fun start
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with a great match to open up
the main show. Garcia looked great in
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the match as Christian Cage built him
up. The in ring psychology from Christian
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Cage in this match was really well
executed. Christian Cage retained SoC to try
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should we start putting Christian Cage on
the Randy Orton level of just like great
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veteran wrestlers that have the ability to
make their opponents look good, make the
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match makes sense, make this psychology
make sense. Like, I mean,
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I've been kind of singing some Christian
Cah praise for a while now, but
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he's just on a different level the
last year, Like it's like everything's come
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together, Like he's just phenomenal in
this role. He may be the only
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free agent signing I would think that
has elevated his position in AEW from the
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time he signed even though he was
Impact World Champion, had the great match
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with Kenny Omega, but after that
felt down quite a bit. To where
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he's at now. I think he
might be one of those few guys I
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think has just taken his game to
the next level since going to be to
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Aw Swerve Strickland, doctor Trace,
Swerve Strickland. Okay, so Swerve and
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Christian two out of like twenty.
There's a lot of free agent signs by
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AW. I mean that's a hard
thing, but definitely Christian Cage. You
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know, it's funny. A couple
of weeks ago, I was really like
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kind of tired of the character.
I think I mentioned on the pre show
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heading into this one when we previewed
the program. This match is really good.
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You cannot take away what he is
as an in ring competitor. I
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do feel like the character is kind
of gotten a little bit stale, and
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they kind of have to op it
up here a little bit. And you're
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starting to see them pull a couple
pages out of Dowey's creative book lately,
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where they're building towards matches like two
weeks down the line on television, which
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we'll see with Adam Copland taking on
Christian Cage now in a couple of weeks
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in an equip match on Dynamite,
which is the right way to do things.
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Always have like that big Marquee matchup
or two on your on your television
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programming because it works. Look what
doa Doowey's doing? So maybe they'll turn
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it around a little bit. I
just feel like it's kind of been a
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little bit stale with the patriarchy.
Is that what it is? Well?
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Yeah, I think I think the
issue we have is we got well he
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waited for the big Outam Copland payoff, which means this view has dragged on
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a little bit long. Yeah,
that's a good point. I think with
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each time he gets into a new
rivalry, it kind of does refreshen the
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character a bit. But like this
whole builds the equip match now almost six
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months long, so it's kind of
ran its course a little bit. But
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you know, they're trying to get
They're trying to do a long burn.
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Like we complain that they do knee
jerk storylines, but this one's like the
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longest running storyline in the company right
now, and it almost feels like it's
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taking too long. Yeah. I
think probably part of it is as we've
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seen the Adam Copeland Christian Cage stuff
play out, you know, twenty years
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ago, so it's not necessarily refreshed. But I think that they're doing this
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to lead to an eventual reunion that
fans will probably eat up. But yeah,
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it's been been a weird run in
AW so far for Adam Coplan,
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I got admit, and that has
everything to do with Christian Cage. Next
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match here is Eddie Kinkson defeating Brian
Danielson to retain the AW Continental Crown Championship.
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We've both at Eddie Kinkson getting the
victory here. Awesome match felt like
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a strong style Japanese match, which
is typical of Eddie Kinkson's performances. The
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run Kingston has been on the last
three or four months with the Continental Cup
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and his feud Slash gaining respect from
the Blackpool Combat Club members has been some
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some has been some of the best
stuff in professional arrests right now. Kingson's
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on a climb man like he is
an early leader in the clubhouse for Breakout
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Star of twenty twenty four. Great
match heres he gets the victory over Brian
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Danielson. See, I thought this
was an okay match. There there are
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points in there where their throat changing
strikes and it just felt like their timing
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was really off, which made the
punches look a little bit off. But
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that's just you know, me being
I mean, the previous match was the
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previous you know three matches had been
really really good, so I thought there
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was a couple of spots where their
timing was just off. But overall,
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good song match once again, good
storytelling in this Eddie Kingston trying to get
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the respect of Brian Danielson. You're
finally getting the handshake postmatch, so the
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storytime was on point. If the
run Kings is on great. I just
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thought there was a couple of spots
in that match that just didn't look good,
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but overall still a good performance.
But the storytelling and getting the respect
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of Bran Dans I think was the
big payoff for it. Next match,
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here is Wardlow defeating Chris Jericho,
Powerhouse Hops, Lance Archer Hook, Brian
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Cage, Magnus, and Dante Martin
in an all star scramble match to receive
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a future AW World Championship match that
will take place at Big Business this coming
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Wednesday. I had Wardlow, Doctor
Trey had Powerhouse Hobbs. There's a good,
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fast paced scramble match with a ton
of action in it. There was
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never a loll and all and all
eight guys at a great job keeping me
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engaged in this match. Wardlow now
gets that AW World champions match that he's
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been looking for, and I wonder
if his time is now to become World
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Champion or if this lead is leading
to the return of MJF. I have
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a feeling that these poseddowns that Wardlow
has been doing where he's looking at like
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the Titan Tron or the big screen
just above the stage and during every show
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is going to lead towards probably some
sort of result of MJF returning here soon
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Wardlow gets a big victory Doctor Trey. Yeah, it was a fun match,
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and I didn't have high expectations for
it because when you call it an
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all star scramble match and one guy
I really had never heard of, and
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one guy I thought, what was
a tag team six man competitor. For
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the most part, my hope sport
that high. But it was a really
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fun match, and I love the
interactions with Jericho and Hook because you know
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that ties into tag which then ties
into our childhood as well. So like
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overall, that was a really fun
match. Everybody looked good in the match,
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which I think what you want to
come out of this, and keeping
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is so fast paced. Even though
it was it was a pretty clean victory,
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still allows everybody to look good,
So I think that's the point when
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you have a match like one of
these. Next match is Roger Strong defeated
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Orange Cassidy to win the aw International
CHAMPIONIP. We both had Roger Strong getting
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the victory solid match. It just
felt like Orange Cassidy and he never really
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had a chance due to the injuries
he was selling going into this one.
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I'm not sure the injury angle stuff
with the Orange Cassidy resonates too much anymore,
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as it feels like it's been a
little overdone at this point. Sidebar
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on this entire thing. It was
great to see Kyle O'Reilly's return for the
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first time in nearly two years,
as it did feel like his career over
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and a couple of reports out there
led us to believe that his career may
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be over. Roger Strong is your
new aw International Champion doctor. Try.
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Yeah. When they do the injury
angles and they oversell it and they talk
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about how much heart he's fighting with
and the announcers kind of sell it that
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way, it almost does the reverse
for me, like it's not it's not
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the ringing now, or it's not
the commentator's job to tell me how much
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paint he is in. It's Orange
Cassidy's jobs. You tell me that and
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make me feel that way. So
it does kind of lend to like,
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I don't need you to tell me
he's an underdog all the time because he's
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not very big. We get that. So I was just really happy for
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Roder Strong to actually get, you
know, a really solid win, get
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a title under his belt. I
have loved the roder Strong character since you
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know, he got involved with Tavid
and Bennett and then leading into stuff with
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the NSBC Kingdom, so I'm really
excited for him. Plus, it says
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Orange Up kind of like they do
with somebody else later in the show,
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that either hey, he can keep
fighting for this belt, or he could
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move on to something else and we
can refreshing up this whole division for the
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international title, which has no international
people really involved in in right now.
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Next match year is Blackpool Combat Club
defeating FTR with both at FDR again and
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the victory. This match felt like
a throwback eighties tag team match, which
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is fitting since it took place in
the Gransboro Call'll see Him. The result
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was pretty surprising for me because it
has felt like the Blackpool Combat Club has
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been beating up FDR pretty good lately. I don't think we've ever seen FTR
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dominated like this. It felt like, at least to me, that FDR
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was out matched throughout this bout as
well. And then Cizarrow maybe one of
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the greatest tag team wrestlers in history
based on how many successful teams. He
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has been on with so many different
tag team partners. The Blackpool Combat Club
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gets the victory over FDR Doctor Trey. Yeah. I didn't factor in the
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mock star power this match when I
was making my predictions, and I guess
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Max has more star power than FDR
in their eyes. But you guys are
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like, like Claudio has been the
glue of the Blackpool Combat Club. We've
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seen him team with Moss, we
see him tag with you know, with
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Brian Danson, and when you see
him tag with like he's tagged with everybody
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and they've all been like, we
are you that, Like they've all been
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good tag teams. So uh And
then you're right, you go back to
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his time in WWE and the time
and the Ring of Honor, like the
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dudes like just the perfect tag partner
because he can do everything. He can
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change his style to fit his partner's
style. But yeah, overall, like
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it was a really damn good tag
team match. But you're right, like,
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to me, it's surprising, you
know, with our predictions going,
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Hey, they're probably have a tag
tournament starting up. Does that make Blackpool
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Combat Club the favorites going in this? Is they beat FTR creen is that
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the route we're headed towards. I
think that was definitely the point of it
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for for real. I think that
uh definitely lends true to the tag team
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tournament they want to be doing right
now and potentially a rematch in the finals.
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Next match year is tim withs Tony
Storm defeating Deanna Parrazzo to retain the
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AW Women's World Championship with both in
time, with Tony Storm getting victory.
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This was one of the better feuds
in matches the AW Women's division in a
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while. Despite taking the loss,
Deanna Pirozzo's future in AW looks bright.
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It will be interesting to see where
Thymeless Tony Storm goes from here with some
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new additions coming to the women's division, hopefully some stars returning from injury.
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If I had a guess, it
does feel like Serhen Deem could be the
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next contender for Timeless Tony Storm.
She's definitely getting a decent push on Collision,
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but we expect a big name to
be coming via Big Business soon.
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Nonetheless, Timeless Tony Storm defeats Diana
Froze Doctor Trey. Yeah. Really good
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match. Shout out to Mariah May
for pulling off an almost flawless. Tony
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Storm impression, by the way,
that was really good. I am a
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little bit more concerned about Deanna's place
in the division because there is a lot
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of star power, and I just
hope she doesn't end up, you know,
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trying to date, you know,
somebody from the former Jahn Society or
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anything like that. Like, there's
a lot of people that come in hot
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and in that women's division and then
once they have their push, they get
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kind of pushed down to the bob
of the pile a little bit. So
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I'm hoping Dianna is not one of
them. Continue is one of my favorite
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women's wrestlers to watch. He's fantastic
in the ring. But Tony Storm may
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be the best character on television right
now in professional wrestling. So they're gonna
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ride. They're gonna ride this train
as far as they can. Hopefully they
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don't have her date somebody in JS, because I don't think Steve mclin will
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be too happy about that. Doctor
Trey Well, I mean, you know,
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Jake Hager's Mary, so you always
just do that, and you know
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it's it's all television anyway, Yeah, true true. Next match is Will
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Osprey defeeding Kenoski to Cashio. We
both had will Ospray gain the victory.
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Incredible match. I love the back
and forth throughout this one and how evenly
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matched they both were. The weak
arm kickouts from both men told a really
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great story between two warriors in the
ring. I cannot wait to watch Ostbray
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and a aw Television each week going
forward, and PROPSI Kitashka, who has
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been ascending upwards for quite some time. Osprey followed up with a great match
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on Wednesdays Downam against Kyle Fletcher as
well. This was an incredible match Doctor
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Trey will Osprey defeeding Kenoski to Keshka. Fantasticatic match, really well done.
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You know me being the manager,
you know aficionado. Even the Don Kallis
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facials in this match where like he's
even torn watching it as well, like
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you see him, you know,
half cheer for half cheer and then half
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grown at the same time for certain
moves. I thought was really well done.
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I don't like we talked about the
show last week. I am surprised
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that we didn't get like a violent
heel turn, like a violent turn against
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will Osprey. It was just kind
of like I don't know, a mutual
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love of heels. Like it was
almost like I don't know if I've ember
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seeing like two heels wrestler match and
afterwards you're like they're kind of like embracing
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each other almost. You know.
It was kind of weird, but it
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keeps him on that side of defense
at least, and that position Zima for
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bigger matches against some of the baby
faces in AW. Next match is samo
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Joe de Phoenix for Strickland and Hangman
adam As in a three way match and
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retaining the AW World Championship. We
both had Samojo again the victory here.
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The match itself I thought was all
right. It felt a little too slow
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paced for my liking. It looked
like every pin breakup was nearly botched.
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I did like Swerve not using Prince
Nana's crown to win the championship and the
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announcer's hyping up that Hangman may have
tapped out to avoid Swurf of winning the
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AW World Championship. The fans are
clearly really buying Swerb's squest to become AW
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World Champion, and it'll be interesting
to see where this goes heading into the
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new AW pay per view Dynasty.
A lot of people think, according to
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early reports, that Swerve will being
a AW World Championship match again. So
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if it's against samo Joe, that
means he's retained against Wardlow. Maybe MJF
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is back at Big Business as well. It was a it was an okay
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match, Doctor Trey samoj obtains,
Yeah, I mean I liked the match,
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but I didn't love the match.
But you know, once again,
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though, I'm I'm still not happy
that they've kind of turned Swerve face.
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You know, the crowds behind him. I kind of like the chakaner in
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the antics. It's kind of hard
to go from from doing a home invasion
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and threatening a guy's family to kind
of going straight babyface. And I know
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he's done really well in the promos
to kind of play it off and explain
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his rationale. But I certain guys
I like better as heels than I do
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his baby faces. Swerves one of
them, but overall it's still kept Swerve
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good. I like how the announcers
sold it that, you know, like,
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like you mentioned Page tapping out to
avoids were becoming champ, but at
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the same time that kind of protects
Adam Page from taking the loss, like
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his desire to want up swerve is
more than his desire to win the World
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Championship. Like that's good storytelling in
that sense and makes Adam Page still look
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like a viable contender whenever you circle
back to him. Yeah, and I
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thought hangman, Adam Paige was going
to come back as a heel because there's
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been all these reports that it's gonna
be taking time off. Based on the
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promo the Young Bucks cut on Wednesday's
Dynamite, it would appear he's coming back
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as a baby face again. Yeah, you don't get fired and come back.
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Typically you don't get fired and come
back as a heel. Well he's
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suspended, yeah, yeah, but
I mean he was excommunicated from Yeah.
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Yeah, so that's still basically being
fired by your bosses, from your from
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your group. So yeah, Typically
when those things happen, the guy,
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you know, it's either you come
back as the indentured servant a la Sean
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Michaels the JBL or something like that, or you come back just pissed off
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at your bosses. And people love
those guys. So it might be a
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way of refreshing the Page character as
well. But the storyline between him and
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Swerve is still not resolved, and
if Swerve's a baby face, it's kind
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of hard to do to have competing
babyfaces at the same time, you know,
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fighting each other, because at some
point the crowd's going to turn on
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one of them. So it's gonna
be interesting how they put all that together,
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if that's their their course of action, or does Page go off and
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do something else, And then we
can always circle back to him and Swerve
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down the line and bring up their
history. They put a big rocket ship
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on Swerve at on Wednesday's Dynamite when
he, like single hand lead defeated the
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Roah Tag team champions Matt David and
Mike Bennett along with samo Joe. He
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also had one of the best move
sequences I've ever seen, where it just
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like floats so well and he just
kept moving. I mean, Swerve's ascension
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this the past two years has been
like a thing of beauty. It's amazing
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to watch him grow. He was
a great character in an NXT towards the
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end there with hit Row. It
obviously did not take place on the main
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roster side with SmackDown because he wasn't
given a long enough leash to be successful.
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Very very happy for him. He's
always been touted as somebody on the
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independence prior to signing with w WEE
is like a talent to watch and it's
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fun seeing it really pay off right
now, and it's the momentum is shifting
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towards him probably become an AW World
champion sooner rather than later, which is
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pretty exciting. Next match here is
Stinging Darby Allen defeating the Young Bucks and
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a to NATO tag team match or
retain the AW World Tag Team Championship.
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Doctor Trey and I had Singing Darby
Allen one last time covering a Sting match.
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I just simply put as my notes, this was Sting's love letter to
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professional wrestling, and this was wrestling
fans' way of thanking sing for all the
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memories. It was a beautiful send
off for an amazing career, and thank
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you, Sting. I can't say
anything more else more about this, Doctor
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Trey. No. I thought the
introduction of having both the Sting's sons come
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out as you know, different versions
of Sting, and then even that,
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like you know, just everything in
this match was good for me because you
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know, when you have an older
gentleman in a match you kind of it's
425
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all all the mcfoley Rick Flair stuff, Like, Hey, if you can
426
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:47.920
add in some props and some stunts
and some things that take away from him
427
00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:52.480
not being maybe the best ring technician
in the world anymore, Hey, it's
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great. And also like this is
one of those few matches where Sting had
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to be involved basically the entire time, which is rare for him running aw
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00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:03.319
like, he had to be involved
in the match all the way through,
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where in the past we've seen Derby
do most of the work ste he comes
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00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:10.359
at the end, or we do
the cinematic matches or something like that.
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This was Sting going all out for
all the people that were in that coliseum
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watching live, you know, for
all the fans he's ever had. This
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00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:23.839
was his you know, swan song. And for a retirement match, this
436
00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:27.400
is right up there as one of
the best final matches for somebody that I
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00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:33.000
can ever recall. Yeah, I
think maybe Undertaker A J. Styles I
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would put one that was, but
we didn't know that at the time,
439
00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:41.039
and even that was cinematic. Would
you have would you have yeah, would
440
00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:44.079
you have put Rick Flair Shawn Michaels
in there if rick Flair didn't come back
441
00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:48.720
like two three times. Yeah,
I mean, because that was a loss,
442
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:52.200
but it was still like amazing it
was, but that was this wasn't
443
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:56.759
I mean to a degree the Bucks
in Darby carried this match, but Sting
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00:30:56.839 --> 00:31:00.640
still got there though. Man,
yeah, I just disagreed there. I
445
00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:03.799
think Sting was in there. Man. Well, I'm not saying he wasn't
446
00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:07.400
like Sean carried the Rick Flair match. Oh well, yeah, It's definitely
447
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:11.640
a different situation for sure. And
then Undertaker and AJ was the cinematic match.
448
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:14.359
You know, this one, Sting
was a Sting was in it the
449
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:18.400
entire time. But for the most
part, it was Darby the Bucks and
450
00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:21.640
taking them Like I mean, I
know Sting took a couple of big bumps,
451
00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:23.960
but he took a glass bump.
Man, I disagree with that saying
452
00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:27.160
that they like took all the bumps
with sugar Glass. I didn't say all
453
00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:30.160
of them. I said they took
most of the big bumps, you know.
454
00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:36.519
So you think that was sugar Glass
And the one that Darby did was
455
00:31:36.519 --> 00:31:38.279
was not. I No, I
think the one Derby did was legit class
456
00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:41.599
Yeah, yeah, No, I
mean, no doubt I thought it was
457
00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:45.000
both actually the same pieces of glass. It might have been. I don't
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00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:47.839
know. It's just like to me, like, all I'm saying is,
459
00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:51.240
really, when you stacked those other
matches up there, this was a great
460
00:31:51.400 --> 00:31:55.440
This is arguably the greatest per formula
because Sting was in the match and doing
461
00:31:55.559 --> 00:32:00.079
his part for the entirety of match, where Undertake and AJ was a great
462
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:04.039
match, but you could say,
well, they also had time to cut
463
00:32:04.039 --> 00:32:08.079
stuff out because it was cinematic flair
and Sean that was Sean carrying Rick through
464
00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:13.359
that match. Sting did his part
in this match, especially for a guy
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at his age. So for me, it's it's not it's Taker and Staying
466
00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:22.119
in their final matches is one A
and one B because of their performances pay
467
00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:24.279
per view prediction record, I went
eight and one. Doctor Trey win seven
468
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:28.559
and two. I'm nineteen and four
in the year Doctor Trey is seventeen and
469
00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:34.920
six. Match of the night and
event rating. I gave aw Revolution a
470
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four point two out of five and
the very short window of pay per views
471
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that we've watched so far this year. In the year twenty twenty four,
472
00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:45.480
this has been my favorite, and
my match of the night was will Osprinkinoski
473
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:51.240
Takeshka, So I was in a
four point zero. I think I had
474
00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:52.720
a couple of matches railed, but
lower than you. My match that I
475
00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:57.000
was singing in Darb against the Bucks. I think just for the nostalgia,
476
00:32:57.160 --> 00:33:00.599
the emotions, this is kind of
like you know, in a sense,
477
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:02.920
I mean stone cold and Kevin Owens
asked in a sense of like it's it's
478
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:07.039
all over the place, it's chaotic, but dere got it. That's a
479
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:08.880
great comparison. But it got me
all back, It got me all back
480
00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:14.519
up in my fields and everything else. So and then still Darby playing off
481
00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:17.599
of the staking stuff a little bit
on Wednesday night with the baseball bat to
482
00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:22.519
Jay White's throat, Like that's still
like stuff like that. That's always like
483
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:25.119
you be involved. So like it
was just like it was just great.
484
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:29.640
It was a fun match, but
they had also the nostalgia and the emotions
485
00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:31.640
coming to as well. Yeah,
I love the comparison there to Steve Austin
486
00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:37.000
Kevin Owens from Wrestlman thirty eight.
I think that spot on. And yeah,
487
00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:38.920
these guys, I mean, I
still can't get over staying at the
488
00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:44.240
age of sixty four was doing that
stuff. You know what's funny, Doctor
489
00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:51.279
Trey, is when back in the
nineties when we were growing up, remember,
490
00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:54.759
there was that period of time where
WWE was taking shots at WW and
491
00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:58.519
called it like the old Folks Home, and they were they had the Huckster
492
00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:01.920
and the Nacho Man, yeah,
and billionaire ted vignettes and they were like
493
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:07.559
talking about how old they were and
like at the time, like they were
494
00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:10.599
like forty five years old, yeah, and uh yeah, I mean they
495
00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:15.159
made it seem like they were sixty
four. So it's ironic you mentioned that
496
00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:19.639
because I was talking to Barry call
Off, the owner Rocket City, yesterday,
497
00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:24.079
and we were somehow we got on
the topic of WCW Dungeon of Doom,
498
00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:28.159
you know, which was right around
that time where they were bringing in
499
00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:31.559
John Tentton and calling him the Shark
or the Shark, and then you had
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00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:35.519
I just watched The Dark Side of
the Ring on him John, Yeah.
501
00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:37.960
And then you got Brutus Beefcake as
the Zodiac, but he was also the
502
00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:42.679
Butcher at one point or that time
when you had all the old the man
503
00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:45.719
with no name, yeah, and
then you had but you had all the
504
00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:49.639
old woman villains you know, coming
through that time, and I was always
505
00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:52.599
like, yeah, it's just it's
it's it's sad. You see all these
506
00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:55.000
old guys coming back in for one
paycheck. But that was me at twenty
507
00:34:55.079 --> 00:34:59.280
two years old, twenty four years
old, and now at forty six,
508
00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:02.920
I see these guys out I see
the Billy Guns and the Jericho's and staying.
509
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:06.400
You know, these guys up there, yeah, you know, and
510
00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:08.639
I'm like, I got to give
those guys props. I mean, like
511
00:35:08.679 --> 00:35:12.400
it. It's also a different rule. Like those guys needed the money back
512
00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:15.400
then, those those old hulk Ogan
villains coming through. These guys that we
513
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:19.480
see still out there, they've done
pretty well for themselves. They don't need
514
00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:21.599
the money. They do it because
they love it, and my god,
515
00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:23.800
they're still damn good at it too, and they look like they have not
516
00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:28.400
missed a step. Sting does not
look like he's sixty four. Billy Gunn
517
00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:31.440
and Jeff Jarrett don't look like they're
in their fifties either. I mean,
518
00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:37.480
I mean, Edge is right around
the fifty age as well, and Christian
519
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:39.400
Cage isn't far behind them, and
they're in their late forties early fifties,
520
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:44.599
if I'm not mistaken on those two
guys. And you know, Christian Cage
521
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:47.079
still looks like Christian Cage when he
first cut the mullet off back in like
522
00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:51.639
oh two. Like, I mean, it's crazy Jericho. Jericho's in his
523
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:55.280
late fifties now to Yeah, these
I think it's the Canadian guys don't age
524
00:35:55.360 --> 00:35:59.320
and Tennessee guys don't age. I
think it has a lot to do with
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00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:02.079
these guys take and a lot better
care for them of themselves obviously as well.
526
00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:08.159
I mean Billy Gunn looks like he
could walk into the three anybody and
527
00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:12.159
just who the crap out of him? And he's fifty six years old.
528
00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:15.119
He looks like nineteen ninety eight Billy
gun Yeah. But the way, I
529
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:20.320
actually just came across a little video
of homage to Billy Gunn as mister Ass
530
00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:22.400
and I was like, it's amazing
that character didn't get over because he was
531
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:25.760
basically just doing Sean Michaels. They
tried, remember he was in a feud
532
00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:29.119
with the Rock for a little bit
one King of the Ring, and it
533
00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:32.599
never panned out. Yeah, I
just I don't think they once that few
534
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:37.960
like once Rock kind of was the
poison. The poison Ivy on the Ass
535
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:40.559
was in that feud. Yes,
I forgot about that. That was like
536
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:44.920
a massuse, right, Yeah,
and I think that kind of killed the
537
00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:47.679
mister Ass gimmick. Yeah, and
I think he got injured as well shortly
538
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:51.440
after that, and then he came
back as like the one Billy Gun And
539
00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:54.559
yeah, that's all another story for
another day. Nonetheless, AW Revolution in
540
00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:59.159
the books one of the better shows
in my opinion of twenty twenty four thus
541
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:02.599
far. I just don't like that
AW does like that old WSW trick or
542
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:06.719
Tony Shavanni trick where it's like,
this is the biggest night in wrestling in
543
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:09.679
history. It's like, I think
it's Shavanni. I think when Shirvanni says
544
00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:14.480
it, it's a spoof on himself
because he gets so black for the nitro
545
00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:16.320
dew. Dude. There was so
many people saying it. I mean,
546
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:21.400
Renee Piquette and RJ City were saying
it throughout the whole entire pre show.
547
00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:23.519
I don't think that was a rib. I think that was legit. I
548
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:25.559
mean, I'm like, this is
your biggest pay per view of all time,
549
00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:30.719
not double or nothing. In twenty
nineteen, not all in twenty twenty
550
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:35.840
three in Wembley. Is your biggest
pay per view in Kenny of all time
551
00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:37.679
in Kenny? Omega's not on it. Yeah, yeah, I mean I
552
00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:40.920
would just say it's like, it's
a great night for profession professional wrestling.
553
00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:45.079
Definitely one of their better shows.
I have felt like in sometime docor Trey.
554
00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:49.519
I thought Wressell Dream Full Gear was
really good. I did not like
555
00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:52.840
World's End, but I feel like
at least three out of the last four
556
00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:55.119
pay per views have been very solid
for AW. Yeah, I mean not
557
00:37:55.199 --> 00:37:58.880
the mention is it the biggest night
when you guys did the Wimbley show.
558
00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:01.440
That's yeah, That's what I'm saying
before I mean, this is but this
559
00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:05.360
is the type of shows I like
about AAW. So, you know,
560
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:09.239
I was thinking about this where there
are times where I can do without almost
561
00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:15.400
dynamite collision. Certainly Rampage. Everybody
knows my my my budding feud with Rampage
562
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:21.480
lately. But every single match on
this card made with the exception of the
563
00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:24.440
Scramble match, which kind of made
sense because ward Low's chasing the world title
564
00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:30.719
and the result it had a creative
storyline. I mean, there's a lot
565
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:35.800
of this with like weird filler sometimes
on collision and rampage. Especially Dynamite always
566
00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:38.639
seems to be action packed. This
past Wednesday's edition of Dynamite was really well
567
00:38:38.679 --> 00:38:45.119
done. So it feels like creatively, aw's had a nice, good momentum
568
00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:47.360
right now, and I hope it
really carries itself to their next pay per
569
00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:52.119
view in April titled Dynasty, which
is the next one. So props AW
570
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:55.800
lately, as I mean, they've
been putting together a hell of a roster.
571
00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:00.840
They've got well ospray. We believe
that they have Mercedes mone coming this
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00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:07.000
upcoming Wednesday, and officially added this
past Wednesday night, Doctor Trey, and
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00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:13.199
we've talked about it here, Kazuska
Okada is all elite and then shockingly joins
574
00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:20.039
the elite Doctor Trey. I mean, AW, in five years has basically
575
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:24.480
taken every top independent new Japan pro
wrestling star. I mean, you've got
576
00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:30.360
Osprey, You've got Okada, You've
got Jay White, these were guys that
577
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:32.800
were basically running the show. You've
got Codo Bushie, who I know is
578
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:37.079
injured right now. You've got Kenny, You've got the Bucks you've got Hangman.
579
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:42.960
I mean they have drained New Japan
Pro Wrestling. We are not shocked
580
00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:46.000
by the signing of Okadago and all
elite. It was expected. We want
581
00:39:46.360 --> 00:39:50.079
We both talked about we wanted to
see him go to WWE because it was
582
00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:53.800
different. What I will say about
this debut, which was nice to see,
583
00:39:53.840 --> 00:39:58.920
is that him turning heel and siding
with the elite of the young Bucks
584
00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:01.559
was nice and different, and I
thought it was a really good introduction to
585
00:40:01.639 --> 00:40:05.679
him on the AW side as a
full time roster. Remember, I wish
586
00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:09.079
it was a little bit bigger because
I think worldwide, and all due respect,
587
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:13.800
I think will Ospray eventually becomes a
bigger star in the next two to
588
00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:17.559
three years in the United States and
beyond, but worldwide, Kausiscocata is the
589
00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:23.119
biggest signing out of Osprey Monet whoever
that they'll make in twenty twenty four.
590
00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:30.880
This is like John Cena for Japan
signing with AAW Yeah, and I'll get
591
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:32.880
so it's a huge signing for them. It's a huge get. He's still
592
00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:36.320
one of the best professional rest of
the world. He's gonna draw a lot
593
00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:39.519
of eyes internationally to AW. So
that's gonna be good for the products as
594
00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:45.400
well. I think him aligning with
the Bucks is a brilliant move because one
595
00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:50.239
of the issues he's going to have
for a little bit is his trends as
596
00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:53.480
he learns the English language is going
to be his promo skills in English.
597
00:40:53.880 --> 00:41:00.400
So aligning himself with the Bucks allows
him time to build that up kind of.
598
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:05.039
Let Nicholas and Matthew see what I
did there, do the talking for
599
00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:07.400
him as they build him up more
and more, and then he do on
600
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:12.760
the eventual turn. Then he's a
big breakout babyface. And then you know,
601
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:15.199
when he cuts his first promo,
the fans eat that stuff up.
602
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:19.480
So I think it makes a ton
of sense. I'm with you. I
603
00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:27.239
still think Osprey in four in three
years is a bigger US star than maybe
604
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:30.599
Okada is. But I think from
the jump as far as bringing eyes to
605
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:35.840
the table, Ocatta is the biggest
get they've got in quite some time.
606
00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:39.400
Yeah, I mean this is this
is a massive get for them. Okada
607
00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:44.719
and I just read before we record
it a fight full select is reporting is
608
00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:47.320
a three year deal worth four million
dollars per year, and Okada will be
609
00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:52.440
moving to the United States permanently,
so there's a feud in place from when
610
00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:58.880
Kenny hopefully returns soon from dive ticulitis. They moved forward with that storyline knowing
611
00:41:58.920 --> 00:42:04.079
that Kenny is is not due back
anytime soon unless it's something kept very very
612
00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:07.960
quiet, which Tony Kahan spoke about
on the media scrum that they don't expect
613
00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:13.599
Kenny back anytime soon. And I
think they're being very truthful in that their
614
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:19.000
talent roster and all Lead wrestling continues
to grow, it continues to be some
615
00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:22.960
of the best, if not the
best, in all professional wrestling. But
616
00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:27.719
with all due respect, they're still
chasing we right now who is as an
617
00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:35.400
all encompassing sports entertainment, professional wrestling
industry business show. Each and every week
618
00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:38.360
they're knocking it out of the park
heading into WrestleMania season. It's really nice
619
00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:43.280
to see. I mean, this
is starting to feel like nineteen ninety seven,
620
00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:46.079
ninety eight, ninety nine professional wrestling
to me, Doctor Trey. Yeah.
621
00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:51.360
And the one thing, and this
is sometimes when you have a huge
622
00:42:51.480 --> 00:42:57.039
talent raw a huge roster of talent, you're trying to be fair to everybody
623
00:42:57.079 --> 00:42:59.039
in the booking, which is when
you start getting a lot of fifty to
624
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:02.599
fifty booking and you know, or
guys get the start stop pushes. Is
625
00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:08.159
you need somebody to break out and
just grab the audience by the throat and
626
00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:13.320
hold on to them. And and
that's where I'm thinking that, Like,
627
00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:15.679
that's probably one of the thing they
talked about, was like, who's that
628
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:19.800
guy that we can kind of,
you know, build the show around that
629
00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:23.639
people have to tune in to see. And that's really what helped WWE catch
630
00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:30.000
WCW during that time was w CB
cop FI with the nWo and then WW
631
00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:31.440
got lucky. I don't say lucky, but it was I mean, it's
632
00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:36.760
talent, but DX and Stone Cold
took off and then that's when you got
633
00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:38.320
the back and forth, back and
the forth, and then one just stayed
634
00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:43.360
hotter than the other. And I
think that's what they're looking for now.
635
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:47.239
Like ww's their shows are so solid
every single week. It's kind of hard
636
00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:52.320
to chase down somebody when they're not
making mistakes and they're not knee jerk and
637
00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:58.119
reacting to what you're doing. But
as long as you keep building and building
638
00:43:58.159 --> 00:44:00.719
and you're solid and you're solid,
and you start to equal out over time,
639
00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:05.920
but you just need that one guy
to catch fire that everybody has to
640
00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:09.000
tune in and see where that the
UH to use an old school reference that
641
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:13.960
nobody uses anymore. You need that
water cooler talk. You need that Oh
642
00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:15.480
my god, do you a'ta see
what Swerve did on on Dynamite? Did
643
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:20.159
y'all see that? Like? You
need some kind of fun, crazy things
644
00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:24.480
that you know, grabs attention and
gets people that word of mouth to start
645
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:29.199
tuning into. So, you know, right now, like wrestling in a
646
00:44:29.239 --> 00:44:31.519
lot of ways feels like politics,
where you're either one side or you're the
647
00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:37.760
other. In reality, like the
best part of that rivalry of w cw
648
00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:43.719
WCWWWF back in the day was the
flipping back and forth to see the counter
649
00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:46.480
programming going on. UH. And
that's because they had two acts that were
650
00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:49.920
just on fire, and you had
to see what the nWo is going to
651
00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:52.800
do. You had to see what
Diamond Dawis Page was gonna do when he
652
00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:54.559
was, you know, getting diamond
cutters everybody. But you also had to
653
00:44:54.599 --> 00:44:57.760
see what DX was gonna do,
and you had to see what Austin was
654
00:44:57.800 --> 00:45:01.039
gonna do. So right now you
have a little bit of that in WW
655
00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:06.639
with the Cody Seth, bloodline stuff, and AW. Like I said earlier,
656
00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:09.280
maybe the best character on their roster
right now is Tony Storm and the
657
00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:15.599
hottest person they have is Swerve Strickling. Those two people aren't mainstream names right
658
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:16.960
now, so you just got to
figure out how to get those names out
659
00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:22.280
there for people to grab onto and
make sure they're turning into Dynamite and Collision
660
00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:23.840
every week. Yeah, if and
he keeps going right now, I mean
661
00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:29.360
will Ospray, I mean just I
think it's we're very lucky to be able
662
00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:34.280
to watch him each week on the
United States television here, of of all
663
00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:37.599
elite wrestling, I think we're very
very lucky to watch him because he is
664
00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:40.440
a phenomenal talent. Yeah, hold
on, just want to say the least
665
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:45.400
thing. The only issue with that
is phenomenal talent all those guys, but
666
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:50.679
you know, Swerve Osprey phenomenal wrestlers. Nobody can knock AW for their entering
667
00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:54.199
action. The only knock we have
on them is character develpment, because sometimes
668
00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:59.159
it's the characters that grab your attention
and make me tune in. And I
669
00:45:59.239 --> 00:46:04.000
don't know if we have great characters
in AW yet. I think Swerve is
670
00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:07.559
a great character. I do.
I think there's been a very natural growth
671
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:10.760
and development to his character. But
I do agree with you. If there's
672
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:15.559
one thing that AW really needs to
focus on, it's it's building that character
673
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:19.039
development. They're actually doing really good
job with that with Eddie Kingston right now
674
00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:22.559
as well. There's several others obviously, but those are ones that definitely come
675
00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:29.119
to mind. But you need something
to grab the mainstream audience attention to if
676
00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:30.880
you want, excuse me, if
you really want to start catching up to
677
00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:37.559
WWE, you need somebody to catch
fire that makes everybody not just yours.
678
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:42.880
You need something to grab everybody's attention
to turn it in. I'm with you,
679
00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:46.679
I think and I thought about this
during Revolution, and you and I
680
00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:52.639
will be fans of AW because we're
wrestling fans. I think the mainstream is
681
00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:55.559
probably going to be difficult to do
that because and fans may not like to
682
00:46:55.559 --> 00:46:59.760
hear this, but I think AW
is a very niche product. They are.
683
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:06.039
Their base is hardcore wrestling fans that
know who will lost Bray because it's
684
00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:12.440
gokata is. They're not looking for
the casuals that pop on because Dwayne the
685
00:47:12.519 --> 00:47:15.320
Rock Johnson the movie stars in there
and he's in the ring with Roman Rains,
686
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:20.159
who's you know, kind of become
a house It's basically a household name
687
00:47:20.159 --> 00:47:23.800
at this point. Roman Reigns for
professional wrestling like AW doesn't have that,
688
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:30.280
And I think in the eyes of
people outside of the wrestling fandom bubble,
689
00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:36.400
this would be similar to like the
NFL is the W and the UFL no
690
00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:42.480
disrespect, disrespect their Rock is AW. It's I think mainstream people would be
691
00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:46.960
like, what is this knockoff w
show? Y WW was so successful when
692
00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:50.519
they were going to Totoe with W
and the Mondy Night Wars is because they
693
00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:53.519
had Hogan and I just don't think
AW will ever do that direction, Doctor
694
00:47:53.599 --> 00:48:00.800
Trey. I just can't see them
creatively booking shows like W will with the
695
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:06.000
growth that you're seeing right now from
like Rock and Roman Reigns with Bloodline and
696
00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:08.519
the stuff with Cody Rhoades and seth
Rolls, which we'll get to here momentarily.
697
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:14.519
But maybe aw's trying with the recent
people that they've added, like Jennifer
698
00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:17.840
pepperd and Pepperman I think is your
last name who just came up from W.
699
00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:21.519
Won'll be helping with the women's division, so maybe they're gonna go to
700
00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:22.920
the direction. I just think at
the end of the day, I think
701
00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:28.360
AW is probably more of a niche
product. Yeah, but I mean,
702
00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:31.400
you think about when WCO caught fire. It took Holland Nash showing up on
703
00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:37.039
Nitro, It took the Luger's surprise
appearance. It took things like that to
704
00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:40.480
really get people talking like, oh
my god. Like it took crazy things
705
00:48:40.519 --> 00:48:45.280
that were outside the norm of professional
wrestling to get people to tune in.
706
00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:49.960
And then you know the nWo stuff
just in general, the Hogan turning heel,
707
00:48:50.039 --> 00:48:53.679
Like you have to have kind of
shocking moments to get people talking.
708
00:48:54.239 --> 00:48:58.440
Did the same thing with the DX
stuff and then the Tyson stuff, and
709
00:48:58.480 --> 00:49:01.360
then you know, Austin McMahon.
These were things that weren't the norm in
710
00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:05.199
wrestling, and I think it always
it's kind of like the same thing with
711
00:49:05.320 --> 00:49:07.559
movie business, where it's like,
oh, all the original ideas are taken,
712
00:49:08.119 --> 00:49:13.920
and then if you do anything that
even resembles something from WWE in nineteen
713
00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:16.880
ninety two, oh they did that
way, they did that in ww already,
714
00:49:16.920 --> 00:49:20.559
Yeah, thirty years ago, forty
years ago. You know, instead
715
00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:24.119
of let it go. But you
got to kind of shock the system a
716
00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:30.760
little bit to get people talking about
you and selling, not selling casual wrestling
717
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:36.079
fans on how great the n ring
action doesn't always work because if I want
718
00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:37.400
to and I don't think it will
work because if I want to see what,
719
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:39.679
if I want to see great fight, I can just watch UFC.
720
00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:44.639
I mean how Netflix Housemars Netflix,
and we just think got us today,
721
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:49.039
Jake Pauling and is Mike Tyson.
If you're launching a live sports division,
722
00:49:49.760 --> 00:49:53.039
that's gonna get eyeballs or your TV
because it's outside the norm. We need
723
00:49:53.079 --> 00:49:58.239
something outside the norm and aw to
get casual fans who start tuning in to
724
00:49:58.360 --> 00:50:01.360
TNT to watch the showing one thing. Yeah, and I don't think that
725
00:50:01.440 --> 00:50:07.559
happens anytime soon. Yeah. I
don't think they'll they'll be that mainstream product
726
00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:10.199
product that WE is. And it's
not because they're not doing anything good.
727
00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:15.840
I just don't think that there'll ever
be the w WE formula. I think
728
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:21.440
they want to be different and that's
fine, but casual mainstream fans don't give
729
00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:24.400
a shit about a forty five minute
match between like Will Ospring Kenoski takesha like
730
00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:28.679
we do. Yeah. Yeah,
here's the thing. Think about this match.
731
00:50:28.719 --> 00:50:34.320
You love the Osprey Takeshka match,
right, like, in six months,
732
00:50:34.360 --> 00:50:37.239
will you remember all thirty twenty eight
minutes thirty minutes of that match?
733
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:39.320
No, you remember the finish,
You'll marry a couple of spots, and
734
00:50:39.320 --> 00:50:43.000
you remember the end, and you
remember the emotion. And that's one thing
735
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:45.039
I teach you wrestlers, like is
not the in ring product, is the
736
00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:50.519
emotion you put out there that gives
people to come back. I think that
737
00:50:50.599 --> 00:50:53.199
was a highly emotional match, man. Yeah, I gotta disagree there.
738
00:50:53.239 --> 00:50:57.119
I know you're using that as like
an example, but I think I will
739
00:50:57.159 --> 00:51:02.159
remember will Osbury Kenoski Takeashka and Stinging
Darby Allen. I think sticking Darby Allen
740
00:51:02.239 --> 00:51:07.519
Young Bucks is a very we esque
match which you compared very beautifully there to
741
00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:10.960
like Steve Austin and Kevin Owens.
I think those will be memorable matches on
742
00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:14.679
that card. I don't. I
don't mean it like no, here's here's
743
00:51:14.679 --> 00:51:17.880
my comparison. So Shawn Michaels Brett
Hart wrestle Meane Iron, My match is
744
00:51:17.920 --> 00:51:22.199
my favorite match of all time.
I love that match. I could not
745
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:25.760
tell you every single move in that
match. Oh, of course I can.
746
00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:30.880
That's and that's my point. The
n ring action can be great and
747
00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:36.000
it's the emotion that you're selling,
but you don't always need you can have
748
00:51:36.119 --> 00:51:38.880
like Kevin Owens Stone Call was like
fifteen to twenty minutes. I can't remember
749
00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:42.760
all the fight sequents that match,
but I remember the emotion off that as
750
00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:45.239
well. And that's if I want
to see great action, like great physical
751
00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:49.719
fighting action, I can tune into
the UFC. Yeah, but that but
752
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:55.000
that's a aw is going to garner
emotion from great ng ring abilities like that's
753
00:51:55.159 --> 00:51:59.840
that's their product though, But you
have to take that emotion and put it
754
00:51:59.880 --> 00:52:04.360
in other areas as well, because
otherwise you're just a great wrestling product.
755
00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:07.960
Are you a great entertainment product?
I think I think they're doing a better
756
00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:10.840
job with that though. I Dynamite
was a really good show this past week,
757
00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:14.320
stemming off with a pay per view. I mean, there's a lot
758
00:52:14.360 --> 00:52:19.440
of good emotion there with Swerve and
Samoa Joe in that opening segment leading to
759
00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:22.440
the tag team match, Like I
thought, I thought, and I thought
760
00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:25.280
the match with Kyle Fletcher and Will
Osprey was really well done, I think
761
00:52:25.360 --> 00:52:29.800
if but I know their history,
I think if I was AW, I
762
00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:32.320
would have gone on with like a
video package the history between those two guys,
763
00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:37.000
because not everybody knows that they were
in United Empire together. Yeah,
764
00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:40.039
and that's and that's the thing there. There are times when I watch AW,
765
00:52:40.119 --> 00:52:44.960
that's the Storytelly has been much improved
the last few months, which I'm
766
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:49.800
really happy about. It's not a
lot of short sty is though they at
767
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:54.480
times kind of bank on you knowing
being a hardcore fan. Agreed, and
768
00:52:54.559 --> 00:53:00.599
I don't know if they ever want
to change. There's almost I don't like
769
00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:04.599
it's like when you have when those
people who own a Honda Prius, but
770
00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:07.880
they just anybody doesn't have a Prius
or doesn't have a smart car, it
771
00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:10.199
doesn't have a hybrid there, but
they're just dumb. It's almost like that
772
00:53:10.519 --> 00:53:15.079
this is this is getting political now
This is I mean, this is like
773
00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:16.639
a lot of things in general nowadays. I mean, this is the social
774
00:53:16.679 --> 00:53:22.039
media. I mean, this is
like the number one reason why wrestling fans
775
00:53:22.119 --> 00:53:25.760
bash, like the AW hardcorese Like
there's those AW Neckbeard's Twitter accounts out there,
776
00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:31.079
and they're pretty funny because it's like
like I think O'Hay Jackson, which
777
00:53:31.119 --> 00:53:35.559
is ice cube Son, Who's I
guess he's like the prominent voice now professional
778
00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:38.559
wrestling fandom for some reason, like
he and he hit it on the head.
779
00:53:38.639 --> 00:53:43.239
It's like, oh wow, who
is this guy? Like this British
780
00:53:43.239 --> 00:53:45.840
guy is really good and the AW
fans like this is Will Ospray. You
781
00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:49.559
don't know who this is? No, I don't, but I really like
782
00:53:49.599 --> 00:53:52.320
it. And their response is well, you're an idiot, like and you're
783
00:53:52.360 --> 00:53:55.119
not a wrestling fan. And it's
like wait what, Yeah, it's they
784
00:53:55.119 --> 00:54:00.159
have almost like an elitist attitude about
their right professional It's in the name.
785
00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:05.719
Yeah. So it's like it's a
niche product. I think it's a niche
786
00:54:05.760 --> 00:54:07.119
product. And I hate to say
that because I enjoy it, but it's
787
00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:12.119
niche. It's owning the hybrid car, owning the smart car in comparison everybody
788
00:54:12.159 --> 00:54:15.760
else. Yeah. I again,
I will say creatively, I think AW
789
00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:22.320
is building upwards towards of the mainstream
aspects than what we've seen in like the
790
00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:27.760
last two years. I think they're
doing a match much better job. But
791
00:54:27.840 --> 00:54:30.360
there are times where you've got to
introduce the CML El Sars that I don't
792
00:54:30.360 --> 00:54:34.559
know. I mean I don't know
every single one. Like Hennasario was like
793
00:54:34.599 --> 00:54:37.239
the first time I ever saw him, and he was phenomenal in the ring,
794
00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:40.599
really enjoyed it. What was his
name? Is it Henner Sario?
795
00:54:42.239 --> 00:54:46.679
Oh? I thought you said Hennessy. Does you know the guy who's like
796
00:54:46.760 --> 00:54:51.719
the magician? I thought he was
really good. June Akayama out of d
797
00:54:51.840 --> 00:54:57.199
DT. I mean I haven't seen
June Okayama matches many of them or wait
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a minute, no progressing? Noah, I think he is. I don't
799
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know. I had her name June
Akiyama since w CW n W O Revenge.
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00:55:05.599 --> 00:55:08.079
Is he in that game? Well? No? There? Who was
801
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the there was a guy uh from
is here a New Japan and that he
802
00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:15.719
had to run in w CW.
He's in that game. There's a few
803
00:55:15.840 --> 00:55:21.760
Japanese wrestlers. Yeah, it's Who's
Blue Justice over in New Japan. He
804
00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:29.760
just was on there taking on Brian
Danielson. Oh God, Eugene Nagata,
805
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Yes, Eugeniagatta. That's who I
was like, that's that's like when last
806
00:55:34.000 --> 00:55:37.519
time I heard June Akayama was in
the New Eugen Nagata days. Yeah,
807
00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:39.599
and that was like everybody was with
Son and that's when w W w W
808
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was was feuding with New Japan.
There was an entire star k that was
809
00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:47.719
based around WW versus New Japan,
and that was in the days when they
810
00:55:47.760 --> 00:55:54.079
were they were a niche Southern product. Did Eric Bischoff do Forbidden Door before
811
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Forbidden Door? Oh? Yeah,
do you remember that one? Stark?
812
00:55:57.840 --> 00:56:00.599
Yeah, now that I think about
it, like i'd only that out of
813
00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:02.400
my memory for a while, I
think it was like Stark ninety five.
814
00:56:04.079 --> 00:56:07.400
Yeah, like that's yeah, that's
in my wrestling history. It was the
815
00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:09.599
World Cup of Wrestling. Yeah,
it was WW taking on New Japan.
816
00:56:10.679 --> 00:56:15.199
Oh my goodness, their memories they're
making it flow back anyway. But yeah,
817
00:56:15.239 --> 00:56:17.320
like I to me, it's it's
you know, look, you're right,
818
00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:22.360
it's a niche product that is trying
to slowly make its way out.
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00:56:22.360 --> 00:56:23.840
It's a little bit it's a little
bit of E. C. Wish as
820
00:56:23.840 --> 00:56:28.679
well, in the sense of like
when people were ECW fans and they're like,
821
00:56:28.679 --> 00:56:30.599
oh, you don't know who Nujack
is, then you're stupid. It's
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00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:36.199
like you're on like fifteen televisions channels. How would I know this like it's
823
00:56:36.280 --> 00:56:38.800
it's a little bit of that attitude
as well, but just they just have
824
00:56:38.920 --> 00:56:44.440
better financing than Paul Hayman did back
in the day. Let's switch gears speaking
825
00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:49.800
of Paul Hamon to WWE here real
quick, Paul Hamon and Bowl Nakana where
826
00:56:49.800 --> 00:56:52.119
announced as the first inductees for the
w Hall of Fame class of twenty twenty
827
00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:55.519
four. I mean, we could
do an entire podcast here on Paul Hayman
828
00:56:55.599 --> 00:57:00.679
and his impact to professional wrestling.
Bull Nakano, I got to be honest,
829
00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:02.519
I did not see many of her
matches. I remember her feud in
830
00:57:02.599 --> 00:57:07.440
ninety four with a lunch of Blaze
in ninety five becoming the w F at
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00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:14.000
the time women's champion. But I
mean two great first inductees here, certainly
832
00:57:14.039 --> 00:57:19.800
Paul Hayman in the home area of
extreme in Philadelphia and bol Nakana, one
833
00:57:19.840 --> 00:57:23.679
of the most influential women's wrestlers in
history. Yeah, Bo Nakano inspired so
834
00:57:23.880 --> 00:57:29.599
many women's the best phoenixes of the
world. Awesome Kong. We'll tell you
835
00:57:29.679 --> 00:57:31.119
that she's a huge bowld nccano fan. I was amazing. That's how A
836
00:57:31.159 --> 00:57:35.440
picture of Boll Nacanna recently she looks
nothing like the boldon nccano I remember from
837
00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:37.840
that lunder Blaze view, but like
she looks phenomenal. Agreed, I saw
838
00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:42.559
it too recently. I was like, damn, but yeah, like just
839
00:57:42.760 --> 00:57:46.239
two Like it's it's that big knockout
star you need, which is the Paul
840
00:57:46.239 --> 00:57:50.559
Hayman going to Philadelphia to go in
the Hall of Fame. And then you
841
00:57:50.599 --> 00:57:53.840
get the bowmacana, which gives you
that like hardcore wrestling fan credibility for the
842
00:57:53.840 --> 00:57:58.599
Hall of Fame as well. It's
gonna be interesting else, they added to
843
00:57:58.679 --> 00:58:01.000
Max, it's gonna be interesting who
they have induct Paul Hayman. Like I'm
844
00:58:01.079 --> 00:58:05.199
waiting to see that is I saw
something I can't reverer who was? But
845
00:58:05.400 --> 00:58:08.280
on Twitter they're like, just give
Paul Hayman the microphone, Like keep all
846
00:58:08.280 --> 00:58:12.199
the other inductions be short, and
then just give Paul Hayman the mike for
847
00:58:12.199 --> 00:58:15.280
forty five minutes and people will go
home happy. So I would have best
848
00:58:15.920 --> 00:58:21.800
guest Brock Lesner before all this stuff
went down. Yeah, but even then,
849
00:58:21.800 --> 00:58:23.559
I as much as I love Brock, I don't know if Brock would
850
00:58:23.599 --> 00:58:28.199
give a great induction speech. Brock's
not known for being the best. He's
851
00:58:28.239 --> 00:58:31.360
good, but I'd thought to Dreamer
do it. I wouldn't be surprised if
852
00:58:31.360 --> 00:58:37.320
it's Steve Austin or CM Punk.
That's a good one too. I mean
853
00:58:37.360 --> 00:58:43.199
there's plenty of great people, I
mean dangerous alliance. Anybody in E CW.
854
00:58:43.280 --> 00:58:47.360
Tommy Dreamer would be fantastic. Cmpunk
would be phenomenal as well. So
855
00:58:47.880 --> 00:58:52.079
I know they only do it for
like some of the headliners now inductees,
856
00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:54.679
because remember Conyan did it for Ray. But yeah, we'll have to see
857
00:58:54.719 --> 00:58:59.800
what goes on here. So bul
Nakana Paul Hayman first inductees into the WA
858
00:58:59.840 --> 00:59:02.239
Hall Film Class to twenty twenty four, and then quick here to wrap up
859
00:59:02.239 --> 00:59:06.320
our resume and he forty card round
up. No match is confirmed this week,
860
00:59:06.639 --> 00:59:09.559
but rumored expected Doctor Trey Roman Reigns
and the Rock versus Cody Roads and
861
00:59:09.599 --> 00:59:15.559
Seth Freaking Rollins has gained some traction
momentum. I fully expect this podcast drops
862
00:59:15.559 --> 00:59:19.159
on Friday morning, that this match
will become official on Friday Night's edition of
863
00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:22.519
SmackDown. Yeah, and I'm wondering
why they're saving it for SmackDown, Like
864
00:59:22.599 --> 00:59:27.199
why didn't Cody and Seth just accept
on Raw Monday Night. But yeah,
865
00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:30.119
yeah, anyway, like why do
we gotta wait a whole week when those
866
00:59:30.119 --> 00:59:35.400
two guys technically technically still are Raw
superstars, But yeah, I fully expect
867
00:59:35.440 --> 00:59:37.119
that to happen. I also like
the you know, if we win,
868
00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:42.639
then bloodline rules. I'm like,
do we know what bloodline rules are?
869
00:59:42.639 --> 00:59:45.119
Because we're gonna make that up as
it goes. But uh well he did
870
00:59:45.119 --> 00:59:46.280
explain it. I mean he said, like anything goes At this point,
871
00:59:46.400 --> 00:59:50.159
I say, anything goes. But
I love that that is bloodline rules,
872
00:59:50.239 --> 00:59:52.840
not just hey, not just the
traditional not Q anything goes match that we've
873
00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:57.480
been doing four one hundred years.
And then you know, I think you
874
00:59:57.519 --> 01:00:00.639
want to add a little bit of
spice of that though, right yeah yeah,
875
01:00:00.880 --> 01:00:02.599
and then if Cody and Saith when
the Bloodline won't get involved at all?
876
01:00:02.760 --> 01:00:07.519
Though, but yeah, like I
love This's gonna be fun and I
877
01:00:07.800 --> 01:00:10.760
love that the Rocks still like hyping
it was the biggest tag team Magine history,
878
01:00:10.760 --> 01:00:15.079
and I'm like, I mean,
I remember the Bag of Powers in
879
01:00:15.119 --> 01:00:17.320
Andre and DEBIOSSI. That was pretty
big. I remember that one. So
880
01:00:17.360 --> 01:00:22.480
it's up there and what did you
think about Rock acknowledging Roman reigns as his
881
01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:28.719
tribal chief. There seems to be
like some growing concerns that Roman doesn't maybe
882
01:00:28.719 --> 01:00:32.119
believe him. Rock threw up the
l again and then went back to the
883
01:00:32.159 --> 01:00:36.320
one, and Paul Hayman has a
thing where he's staring at the Rock and
884
01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:40.280
has like a smug look on his
face that's been captured on Twitter. What
885
01:00:40.360 --> 01:00:43.760
do you think about all that stuff
that took place there, because it's definitely
886
01:00:43.800 --> 01:00:47.039
starting to set up the Rock and
Roman storyline. Yeah, and I think
887
01:00:47.119 --> 01:00:51.000
this is where you see that crack
of the foundation where if Roman loses,
888
01:00:51.039 --> 01:00:53.880
he blames the Rock for doing it, and then you know, then you
889
01:00:53.920 --> 01:00:58.800
get the solo and Jimmy and Roman
beat down the Rock for the Rock to
890
01:00:58.800 --> 01:01:01.719
come back as the baby face,
you know around summerslame time or if they
891
01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:06.599
stretched all way out to wrestle Media
forty one. So I think this is,
892
01:01:06.760 --> 01:01:09.199
you know, perfect storytelling because you
can't have those two. It was
893
01:01:09.280 --> 01:01:13.400
kind of It's similar when you know
what the plan for Austin and Triple H
894
01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:16.960
as a two man ego trip was
for them to run rough shot of everybody
895
01:01:17.000 --> 01:01:21.760
until they based their egos, you
know, overshoot each other. This is
896
01:01:21.800 --> 01:01:25.360
just traditional story. So I love
that. Basically like Roman made Rock acknowledge
897
01:01:25.400 --> 01:01:30.639
him, almost like prove his loyalty
in a sense. But then you know,
898
01:01:30.639 --> 01:01:32.679
you can't really trust the Rock.
It's the Rock. I mean,
899
01:01:32.679 --> 01:01:37.159
he's turned on everybody. He's not
he's not big show level, but he
900
01:01:37.880 --> 01:01:42.360
would baby face it. Heel quite
a bit during his run, so but
901
01:01:42.519 --> 01:01:44.760
just yeah, I mean he is
at the end of the day, the
902
01:01:44.840 --> 01:01:49.760
Rock is technically a high chief in
the ny family and Rome was just a
903
01:01:49.760 --> 01:01:54.760
tribal chief. So very true.
And then they didn't move make some movement
904
01:01:54.760 --> 01:01:59.599
here in the Intercomal Champion Doctor Trailer
will be a gauntlet match on Monday's Raw.
905
01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:01.679
Sammy's Ay and Ricochet, Chad Gable, Bronson, Reid chins Key,
906
01:02:01.760 --> 01:02:06.880
Knockimore or j D McDonald all be
battling for the right to take on Gunther
907
01:02:07.079 --> 01:02:10.920
at WrestleMania forty. I don't know
how this shakes out. I think there's
908
01:02:12.079 --> 01:02:16.719
two leading candidates here, Doctor Trey, Sammy Zin or Chad Gable that this
909
01:02:16.760 --> 01:02:21.599
is going to be interesting. I
think this is a mut obviously a must
910
01:02:21.639 --> 01:02:24.599
watch match on Monday because it's not
so cut and dry that like, yeah,
911
01:02:24.599 --> 01:02:27.519
I think it's gonna be Sammy z
Ayin. Yeah, I think it's
912
01:02:27.519 --> 01:02:30.360
gonna be Chad Gable. I think
those two are the lead horses in there.
913
01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:34.519
But yeah, this is I think
this is a fun way of doing
914
01:02:34.519 --> 01:02:37.039
this for the Intercal Championship at WrestleMania. Not to mention you had a really
915
01:02:37.079 --> 01:02:40.760
solid mess means Sammy and Ivar on
raw as well, So yes, Ivar
916
01:02:40.840 --> 01:02:45.679
is awesome. It's it's it's gonna
be really interesting to see where they go
917
01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:49.519
with this because honestly, here's what's
Gre's the crazy thing. I was kind
918
01:02:49.519 --> 01:02:53.400
of hoping for Goother and Dominic because
I just want to see Goother's like chopped
919
01:02:53.440 --> 01:03:00.280
Dominic for fifteen minutes, and you
know that whole Judgment Day Imperium face off
920
01:03:00.400 --> 01:03:04.119
is like, all right, well
where we go with this? So it's
921
01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:08.239
it's interesting because with that little bit
of a face off, does JD McDonagh
922
01:03:08.280 --> 01:03:12.559
jump up into the top three of
picks, So that way you get a
923
01:03:12.559 --> 01:03:15.760
little bit of Judgment Day and Imperium
and WrestleMania. So it's interesting. I
924
01:03:15.760 --> 01:03:19.760
think you and I mentioned it was
for us. I think it was both
925
01:03:19.840 --> 01:03:24.519
like either Sammy or Chad Gable.
It'll be interesting to see which which horse
926
01:03:24.599 --> 01:03:29.960
they run with here, because I
think Sammy is maybe are the more popular
927
01:03:30.039 --> 01:03:32.079
of the two, But I think
Gable gives you the best story because that
928
01:03:32.119 --> 01:03:36.239
goes back to what they were doing
over the you know, over the fall
929
01:03:36.320 --> 01:03:39.400
month with that whole Gable Gother stuff
and Gable's daughter and everything else. So
930
01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:44.480
it's gonna be interesting which which way
they pick coming out of Monday Night Wrong.
931
01:03:45.079 --> 01:03:49.199
There you go. So that's the
latest WrestleMania forty card round up,
932
01:03:49.239 --> 01:03:52.800
Doctor Trey. We'll obviously have some
clarity. I expect at least two matches
933
01:03:52.840 --> 01:03:57.360
to be confirmed by we by the
time we meet again here. Obviously the
934
01:03:57.400 --> 01:04:00.679
two matches we just discussed, and
who knows how much which more we will
935
01:04:00.719 --> 01:04:05.119
see heading into Wrestling forty. With
that said, let's close up shop on
936
01:04:05.159 --> 01:04:09.440
this week's edition of SRTU. We'll
get a couple plugs and spots out of
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01:04:09.480 --> 01:04:12.840
the way. You could download the
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01:04:12.960 --> 01:04:16.840
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01:04:16.840 --> 01:04:19.599
Don't forget to rate, review,
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01:04:23.639 --> 01:04:27.840
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The Doctor Trey and of course don't forget
942
01:04:27.840 --> 01:04:30.639
to follow show on X at SRTU
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01:04:30.679 --> 01:04:33.880
going on in the one for world
of dotch Tray Franklin this week? Well,
944
01:04:33.920 --> 01:04:36.400
like Jeff said, you can follow
me on X at the Doctor Trey.
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You can find me on Facebook and
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importantly, go check out your local
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a female wrestler that will end up
dating if we'll remember JAS Society at some
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point in aw there you go support
all the great things that support s r
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01:05:04.440 --> 01:05:09.760
TU and so much more. It's
it's amazing just ruby soho dates one person,
953
01:05:09.840 --> 01:05:12.920
Doctor Trey and you you seem a
little bit jealous. I gotta admit
954
01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:15.840
it. A little. I'm a
Ruby, soho looks because I saw her
955
01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:18.000
in IWA Mid South when she was
first breaking into the business, so that
956
01:05:18.199 --> 01:05:24.400
my statement holds true that I saw
this woman wrestling at Independence Show and now
957
01:05:24.400 --> 01:05:28.119
she's dating a member of the JAS
Society. I didn't know there was a
958
01:05:28.119 --> 01:05:32.920
few between Doctor Trey and when it's
not Daddy Magic, I always hit their
959
01:05:32.960 --> 01:05:38.559
names mixed up. It was Angelo
Parker, Yeah, cool Hand Ange,
960
01:05:39.199 --> 01:05:45.159
cool Hand Ange and Daddy Magic.
So the former two point zero Magic was
961
01:05:45.239 --> 01:05:46.719
actually one of my first gamer tags. But I was built at m a
962
01:05:46.880 --> 01:05:54.119
j uk. I missed those days. I missed those days. All right,
963
01:05:54.159 --> 01:05:57.559
that'll do it for this week's edition
of SRTU. Spread the word about
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the story world of this show.
Enjoy your weekend and enjoy your week of
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01:06:00.679 --> 01:06:04.599
professional wrestling and until next week.
For dot Tray Franklin, I'm Jeff Pack.
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This is the story of the show.
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It's still welcome. Everybody. Welcome
to this week's edition is surreal to show
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as the number seven and thirty four
from Park seven, twenty twenty four.
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This is your aw Revolution, recap
and review edition of ass R Team You.
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I am one after the show,
I am Jeff Beck joined every single
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week my gost the one only Doctor
Trey Franklin. Doctor Trey. Was it
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bittersweet to say goodbye to sing my
friend? Actually yeah, I'm not gonna
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lie. Kind of was like I
was, actually, uh, you know,
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we talked about lasting's show, like
he's really like the last link to
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my initial fandom. And then I
remember we said Dustin Roads out there too,
10
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though, So I mean, uh
yeah, I guess Dustin and Sting
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are like my final links to my
childhood wrestling fandom. So yeah, it's
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it's it's it's a bit bittersweet,
but uh, I think all in all,
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I think the performance kind of made
up for it. Yeah, there's
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like a handful of guys left that
wrestled when I was a kid, Billy
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Gunn, Jeff Jarrett, Dustin Rhodes, and I think that's about it.
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Doctor Trey. There's really nobody else
left at this point when was when would
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you say, if you were going
to say, if you were a pinpoint
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of time, what year was your
was your birth into wrestling fandom? It
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would be like ninety three, ninety
four, ninety five era, So right
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around Hogan going to w CW,
like the last Summer Slam, Hogan Yokozuna
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and then Hogan going to w CW
time Yep, yep, that would be
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it. I wrestlemint Aten is the
one that I always think about, but
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I mean a cross the board.
Wwwwe I mean Jericho he kind of borderline.
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Well, so with Jerich went to
ECW and what nineteen ninety five,
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so He's I think probably like ninety
four to ninety six would be like the
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safe zone of like this is when
you were a kid growing up in impression
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wrestling, and Jericho's is just barely
in that era. I guess the ones
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that are definitely there Jeff Jarrett,
Billy Goahn, Dustin Rhodes. Yeah,
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I would say anybody about the age
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active would be in your MILLIONU Like
so like me and John Cena are like
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the same age and like one month
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around ninety seven when he started wrestling
in California and stuff for UPW. Yeah,
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so anybody that's around the age of
fifty and up that they're so active.
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So yeah, Jarrett, Jericho,
Billy Gunn, Dustin and that's yeah,
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that's out the top of my head. That's about it. Yeah,
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because there's like no real true veterans
on the w E side of that great
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length ever since Undertaker retired, I
know, Rock being back of kind of
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yeah, kind of Paul, I
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list. Yeah, Hayman would be
Haymen because you know early WCW, Like
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I just saw a picture of him
with the head Shrinkers. I guess speaking,
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I guess RVD fits in there.
Yeah for you, yeah, like
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ninety six ish. For me,
it's basically Dustin because Dustin I think debuted
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in eighty nine. I remember one
of the first when I talked about it
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last week's show, like how I
found Sting. I think Bash at the
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Beach ninety four had the bunk house
fuck match, like where they were on
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a tractor trailer. Oh the black
top was that? Was that the black
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Well? There's the bunk House,
there was the bunk House, the bunk
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House Brawl where they're actually in like
a silo. Then there was the match
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with the black Top Bully, which
was in the back of the truck as
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it's going down the highway. Let
me look your bash at the beach ninety
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four real quick, Terry fucking bunk
House buck defeated Dustin Roads and Arn Anderson.
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That's the one where arn Anderson turns
on Dustin. Yeah. The next
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pay per view was Fall Brawl because
I remember that match. Was that on
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that card? That was a war
Games match? Where's a Halloween havoc one
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ninety before Halloween Havoc I'm looking at
here. Defeated to arn Anderson because I
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remember that bunk House buck match,
bunk match, I think it was.
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It was a bunk house brawl,
I think is what they called it.
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So was that what the one where
they were in the back of the No,
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that was the black top match because
it's basically the back of the truck
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going down the highway, fighting in
the back of basically like a moving pig
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pin type match, which was a
god awful match. But it's just they
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which have nobody I think. I
don't think anybody's ever done that again,
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No, I don't remember that one. Yeah, it's like Blacktop Bully here?
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Yeah, where am I I'm seeing
this right now? Just fall Brawl
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or something. Yeah, like Google's
are the Blacktop match? See why he
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comes? Yet I didn't realize that
was very Darcel. Oh is the black
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Top Bully? Yeah, that's why
I hercules Hernandez. It was the anniversary
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of his passing yesterday, I think
it was. And I forgot that he
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was in w CW as the Super
Invader. So oh, and something else
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I learned today, jeffl Oh,
it was a King of the Road match.
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I'm sorry, doctor try in the
uncensored nineteen ninety five. Okay,
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so King of the Road against the
black Top Bully. Yes, it was
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very Darcher's name. I did learned
today or two days ago that there was
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a tag team in a propession called
ICW that vinsick Man paid three thousand dollars
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for him to secure the rights to
their tag team name. The tag team
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name was the Undertakers, the Undertakers, and I never knew that. I
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never knew either. I will find
the picture of it. I'll post it
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on our Facebook page. Put this
physic man to secure the rights to the
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name the Undertaker had to pay a
tag team three thousand dollars because that was
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their name and they had the rights
to it. He paid them for supposedly
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paid them three thousand dollars and they
didn't look like early Undertaker. They didn't
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have the big hat of the oversized
giant tie, but they were dressed in
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black and had a little bit of
face paint. It hadn't earn and he
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supposed to paid them three thousand dollars
to secure the name for a character that
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he came up with, which became
the Undertaker. The Undertakers in ICW huh
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i WC iw so, so that
was a that's nothing like Puerto Rico.
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No, that's it's either the because
there's two iws. There's the Carlos one
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in Puerto Rico and there's also one
in Pennsylvania called the i GU it's like
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the International Wrestling Cartel, which is
a show that runs uh you know,
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Corey Graves worked that show a lot
in his early days. Because there's two
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shows around Pittsburgh and IWC's one and
PWX is the other one. There you
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got some wrestling history there I'm sure
I didn't think it was going to take
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us down this rabbit hole of the
King of the Road match, but here
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we are talking about it. Here
on this week's edition of sr T You
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Speaking to Classics. Doctor Trey AW
held the Revolution this past Sunday from the
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classic Greensboro Coliseum in Greensboro, North
Carolina. There are two things I know
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of this arena, Doctor Trey.
One obviously professional wrestling, and two I
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don't know if this falls into uh
into your wheelhouse as well, but every
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ACC tournament basketball tournament was held at
the Greensboro Coliseum and I remember that a
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lot as a kid in the nineties, and at one point was the home
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of the Charlotte Hornets for one season
when they were constructing the Charlotte Coliseum that
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they that they turned around and played
in. But yeah, Greensboro. It's
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funny. Actually, one of the
guys that I work with, that's one
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of the other managers, actually has
the Greensboro area and I was like,
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he was on a coffee the other
day, I'm like, oh, you're
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in Greensboro, like say you know
this and you know this, and I'm
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like, hey, man, are
you going to the AW show Saturday nine.
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He was like, man, I
ain't been wrestling and blah blah blah.
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But he grew up in that area
and he used to go to all
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the old WCWNWA shows back when he
was a kid. And he mentioned the
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a SEC tournament, So yeah,
those are kno gonna lie that. Like
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seeing sixteen thousand people in the coliseum
kind of gave me vibes back to those
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you know, late eighties, early
nineties ACC five or ACC tournament show Kate
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her show her games, and a
little bit of the old nwaw CW feuds
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from my childhood. I assume you
never saw a show there, doctor,
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try no, because I lived when
I when I was a kid in North
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Carolina, I lived roughly about two
two and a half hours away, and
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you know in the eighties, two
hours away is like a million miles.
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Yeah, three days away. Yeah, I mean I remember, like when
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I went to college with me and
my high school sweart broke up because I
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was moving eighty five miles away,
like the one Who's Gone away. Yeah,
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it's crazy to think how much it's
different now with the advent of cell
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phones and facetimes and you know,
all those things like that it's like,
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yeah, you can live like five
six seven hours away from my girlfriend is
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not a big deal. But back
in the day, man, that ninety
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miles was an eternity. So yeah, and then plus you know, we
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were we didn't have the money to
go to pay per views and stuff like
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that, so we were a house
show family. We didn't have pay per
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view money. Jeff, I hear
you, I hear you. My first
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wrestling show was a w WF event
in a local high school gym, so
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it was a long time for me
to ever make it a match to Square
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Garden as well. Let's get into
it. Pre show matches. You have
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the Bank Bank Scissor Gang defeating Private
Party, Willie Mac, Jeff, Chair
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Jay Lethal and Satam Sing in a
twelve person tag team match. We obviously
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did not predict this one. Simply
doctor try. I thought this was a
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great twelve person tag team match.
It was a fun match to kick off
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the entring porse of the show.
And these matches, as I've said many
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at times, it can typically be
cluster fs and this wasn't. This was
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a fun match. Yeah. I
mean, and two the people you mentioned
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to start the show, two people
of Jeff's you know, entry into professional
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wrestling. Jeff Jarrett and Billy gunns
Bill going strong, still looking like they
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did back in nineteen ninety six.
For the most part, they have not
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aged. Yeah, it was a
really really fun match, especially for like
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adding private Party to the mix.
And even though Bank Bank Sissor Gains been
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around for a mother too, they
really haven't worked together matches. So for
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all those moving parts to have a
pretty solid, fun opening match is great
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sokrudos those guys are pulling it off. And hey, we almost forgot about
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Jay White for a while, so
at least we got a little about Jay
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White payoff this past Wednesday as well. He does have a big match at
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the Big Business Show that will be
on AW Dynamite this upcoming Wednesday. Now.
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Chris stat Landar and Will Not Nightingale
defeated Julie Hart and sky Blue.
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We did not predict this match.
Great tag team match, fun back and
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forth between both teams, and there
was a storyline between both teams that made
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this pre show match make sense.
This is what we like about AW when
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they have matches that make sense,
which was a nearly huge portion of this
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entire card. That's Tray fun one
here on the pre show again. Yeah,
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and I'm still trying to figure out
and now once again I don't pay
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attention to the Willow Nightingale Chris stat
Landers storylines with that stuff very often.
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Still try to figure out the Stokely
Hathaway part of it myself, like T
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forgre how that fits in. I
just assume one of those, either Chris
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or Willow at some points when it's
heard to heel on the other one just
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because Stokely's there. But yeah,
like it's a storyline, it makes sense.
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The match was actually pretty solid for
four relatively new women wrestlers. They
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don't have a ton of experience,
and you know, just a good,
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solid women's tag team match that made
a lot of sense for everybody. Main
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card opener here, Christian Cage defeats
Daniel Garcia to retain the AWT and T
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Championship. Doctor Trent and both had
Christian Cage getting the victory. Fun start
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with a great match to open up
the main show. Garcia looked great in
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the match as Christian Cage built him
up. The in ring psychology from Christian
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Cage in this match was really well
executed. Christian Cage retained SoC to try
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should we start putting Christian Cage on
the Randy Orton level of just like great
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veteran wrestlers that have the ability to
make their opponents look good, make the
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match makes sense, make this psychology
make sense. Like, I mean,
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I've been kind of singing some Christian
Cah praise for a while now, but
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he's just on a different level the
last year, Like it's like everything's come
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together, Like he's just phenomenal in
this role. He may be the only
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free agent signing I would think that
has elevated his position in AEW from the
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time he signed even though he was
Impact World Champion, had the great match
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with Kenny Omega, but after that
felt down quite a bit. To where
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he's at now. I think he
might be one of those few guys I
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think has just taken his game to
the next level since going to be to
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Aw Swerve Strickland, doctor Trace,
Swerve Strickland. Okay, so Swerve and
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Christian two out of like twenty.
There's a lot of free agent signs by
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AW. I mean that's a hard
thing, but definitely Christian Cage. You
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know, it's funny. A couple
of weeks ago, I was really like
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kind of tired of the character.
I think I mentioned on the pre show
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heading into this one when we previewed
the program. This match is really good.
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You cannot take away what he is
as an in ring competitor. I
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do feel like the character is kind
of gotten a little bit stale, and
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they kind of have to op it
up here a little bit. And you're
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starting to see them pull a couple
pages out of Dowey's creative book lately,
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where they're building towards matches like two
weeks down the line on television, which
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we'll see with Adam Copland taking on
Christian Cage now in a couple of weeks
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in an equip match on Dynamite,
which is the right way to do things.
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Always have like that big Marquee matchup
or two on your on your television
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programming because it works. Look what
doa Doowey's doing? So maybe they'll turn
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it around a little bit. I
just feel like it's kind of been a
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little bit stale with the patriarchy.
Is that what it is? Well?
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Yeah, I think I think the
issue we have is we got well he
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waited for the big Outam Copland payoff, which means this view has dragged on
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a little bit long. Yeah,
that's a good point. I think with
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each time he gets into a new
rivalry, it kind of does refreshen the
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character a bit. But like this
whole builds the equip match now almost six
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months long, so it's kind of
ran its course a little bit. But
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you know, they're trying to get
They're trying to do a long burn.
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Like we complain that they do knee
jerk storylines, but this one's like the
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longest running storyline in the company right
now, and it almost feels like it's
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taking too long. Yeah. I
think probably part of it is as we've
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seen the Adam Copeland Christian Cage stuff
play out, you know, twenty years
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ago, so it's not necessarily refreshed. But I think that they're doing this
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to lead to an eventual reunion that
fans will probably eat up. But yeah,
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it's been been a weird run in
AW so far for Adam Coplan,
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I got admit, and that has
everything to do with Christian Cage. Next
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match here is Eddie Kinkson defeating Brian
Danielson to retain the AW Continental Crown Championship.
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We've both at Eddie Kinkson getting the
victory here. Awesome match felt like
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a strong style Japanese match, which
is typical of Eddie Kinkson's performances. The
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run Kingston has been on the last
three or four months with the Continental Cup
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and his feud Slash gaining respect from
the Blackpool Combat Club members has been some
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some has been some of the best
stuff in professional arrests right now. Kingson's
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on a climb man like he is
an early leader in the clubhouse for Breakout
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Star of twenty twenty four. Great
match heres he gets the victory over Brian
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Danielson. See, I thought this
was an okay match. There there are
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points in there where their throat changing
strikes and it just felt like their timing
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was really off, which made the
punches look a little bit off. But
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that's just you know, me being
I mean, the previous match was the
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previous you know three matches had been
really really good, so I thought there
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was a couple of spots where their
timing was just off. But overall,
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good song match once again, good
storytelling in this Eddie Kingston trying to get
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the respect of Brian Danielson. You're
finally getting the handshake postmatch, so the
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storytime was on point. If the
run Kings is on great. I just
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thought there was a couple of spots
in that match that just didn't look good,
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but overall still a good performance.
But the storytelling and getting the respect
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of Bran Dans I think was the
big payoff for it. Next match,
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here is Wardlow defeating Chris Jericho,
Powerhouse Hops, Lance Archer Hook, Brian
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Cage, Magnus, and Dante Martin
in an all star scramble match to receive
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a future AW World Championship match that
will take place at Big Business this coming
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Wednesday. I had Wardlow, Doctor
Trey had Powerhouse Hobbs. There's a good,
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fast paced scramble match with a ton
of action in it. There was
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never a loll and all and all
eight guys at a great job keeping me
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engaged in this match. Wardlow now
gets that AW World champions match that he's
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been looking for, and I wonder
if his time is now to become World
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Champion or if this lead is leading
to the return of MJF. I have
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a feeling that these poseddowns that Wardlow
has been doing where he's looking at like
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the Titan Tron or the big screen
just above the stage and during every show
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is going to lead towards probably some
sort of result of MJF returning here soon
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Wardlow gets a big victory Doctor Trey. Yeah, it was a fun match,
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and I didn't have high expectations for
it because when you call it an
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all star scramble match and one guy
I really had never heard of, and
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one guy I thought, what was
a tag team six man competitor. For
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the most part, my hope sport
that high. But it was a really
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fun match, and I love the
interactions with Jericho and Hook because you know
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that ties into tag which then ties
into our childhood as well. So like
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overall, that was a really fun
match. Everybody looked good in the match,
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which I think what you want to
come out of this, and keeping
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is so fast paced. Even though
it was it was a pretty clean victory,
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still allows everybody to look good,
So I think that's the point when
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you have a match like one of
these. Next match is Roger Strong defeated
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Orange Cassidy to win the aw International
CHAMPIONIP. We both had Roger Strong getting
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the victory solid match. It just
felt like Orange Cassidy and he never really
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had a chance due to the injuries
he was selling going into this one.
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I'm not sure the injury angle stuff
with the Orange Cassidy resonates too much anymore,
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as it feels like it's been a
little overdone at this point. Sidebar
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on this entire thing. It was
great to see Kyle O'Reilly's return for the
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first time in nearly two years,
as it did feel like his career over
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and a couple of reports out there
led us to believe that his career may
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be over. Roger Strong is your
new aw International Champion doctor. Try.
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Yeah. When they do the injury
angles and they oversell it and they talk
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about how much heart he's fighting with
and the announcers kind of sell it that
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way, it almost does the reverse
for me, like it's not it's not
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the ringing now, or it's not
the commentator's job to tell me how much
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paint he is in. It's Orange
Cassidy's jobs. You tell me that and
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make me feel that way. So
it does kind of lend to like,
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I don't need you to tell me
he's an underdog all the time because he's
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not very big. We get that. So I was just really happy for
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Roder Strong to actually get, you
know, a really solid win, get
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a title under his belt. I
have loved the roder Strong character since you
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know, he got involved with Tavid
and Bennett and then leading into stuff with
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the NSBC Kingdom, so I'm really
excited for him. Plus, it says
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Orange Up kind of like they do
with somebody else later in the show,
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that either hey, he can keep
fighting for this belt, or he could
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move on to something else and we
can refreshing up this whole division for the
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international title, which has no international
people really involved in in right now.
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Next match year is Blackpool Combat Club
defeating FTR with both at FDR again and
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the victory. This match felt like
a throwback eighties tag team match, which
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is fitting since it took place in
the Gransboro Call'll see Him. The result
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was pretty surprising for me because it
has felt like the Blackpool Combat Club has
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been beating up FDR pretty good lately. I don't think we've ever seen FTR
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dominated like this. It felt like, at least to me, that FDR
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was out matched throughout this bout as
well. And then Cizarrow maybe one of
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the greatest tag team wrestlers in history
based on how many successful teams. He
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has been on with so many different
tag team partners. The Blackpool Combat Club
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gets the victory over FDR Doctor Trey. Yeah. I didn't factor in the
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mock star power this match when I
was making my predictions, and I guess
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Max has more star power than FDR
in their eyes. But you guys are
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like, like Claudio has been the
glue of the Blackpool Combat Club. We've
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seen him team with Moss, we
see him tag with you know, with
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Brian Danson, and when you see
him tag with like he's tagged with everybody
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and they've all been like, we
are you that, Like they've all been
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good tag teams. So uh And
then you're right, you go back to
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his time in WWE and the time
and the Ring of Honor, like the
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dudes like just the perfect tag partner
because he can do everything. He can
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change his style to fit his partner's
style. But yeah, overall, like
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it was a really damn good tag
team match. But you're right, like,
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to me, it's surprising, you
know, with our predictions going,
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Hey, they're probably have a tag
tournament starting up. Does that make Blackpool
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Combat Club the favorites going in this? Is they beat FTR creen is that
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the route we're headed towards. I
think that was definitely the point of it
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for for real. I think that
uh definitely lends true to the tag team
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tournament they want to be doing right
now and potentially a rematch in the finals.
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Next match year is tim withs Tony
Storm defeating Deanna Parrazzo to retain the
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AW Women's World Championship with both in
time, with Tony Storm getting victory.
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This was one of the better feuds
in matches the AW Women's division in a
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while. Despite taking the loss,
Deanna Pirozzo's future in AW looks bright.
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It will be interesting to see where
Thymeless Tony Storm goes from here with some
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new additions coming to the women's division, hopefully some stars returning from injury.
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If I had a guess, it
does feel like Serhen Deem could be the
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next contender for Timeless Tony Storm.
She's definitely getting a decent push on Collision,
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but we expect a big name to
be coming via Big Business soon.
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Nonetheless, Timeless Tony Storm defeats Diana
Froze Doctor Trey. Yeah. Really good
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match. Shout out to Mariah May
for pulling off an almost flawless. Tony
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Storm impression, by the way,
that was really good. I am a
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little bit more concerned about Deanna's place
in the division because there is a lot
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of star power, and I just
hope she doesn't end up, you know,
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trying to date, you know,
somebody from the former Jahn Society or
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anything like that. Like, there's
a lot of people that come in hot
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and in that women's division and then
once they have their push, they get
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kind of pushed down to the bob
of the pile a little bit. So
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I'm hoping Dianna is not one of
them. Continue is one of my favorite
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women's wrestlers to watch. He's fantastic
in the ring. But Tony Storm may
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be the best character on television right
now in professional wrestling. So they're gonna
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ride. They're gonna ride this train
as far as they can. Hopefully they
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don't have her date somebody in JS, because I don't think Steve mclin will
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be too happy about that. Doctor
Trey Well, I mean, you know,
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Jake Hager's Mary, so you always
just do that, and you know
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it's it's all television anyway, Yeah, true true. Next match is Will
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Osprey defeeding Kenoski to Cashio. We
both had will Ospray gain the victory.
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Incredible match. I love the back
and forth throughout this one and how evenly
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matched they both were. The weak
arm kickouts from both men told a really
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great story between two warriors in the
ring. I cannot wait to watch Ostbray
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and a aw Television each week going
forward, and PROPSI Kitashka, who has
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been ascending upwards for quite some time. Osprey followed up with a great match
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on Wednesdays Downam against Kyle Fletcher as
well. This was an incredible match Doctor
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Trey will Osprey defeeding Kenoski to Keshka. Fantasticatic match, really well done.
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You know me being the manager,
you know aficionado. Even the Don Kallis
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facials in this match where like he's
even torn watching it as well, like
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you see him, you know,
half cheer for half cheer and then half
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grown at the same time for certain
moves. I thought was really well done.
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I don't like we talked about the
show last week. I am surprised
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that we didn't get like a violent
heel turn, like a violent turn against
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will Osprey. It was just kind
of like I don't know, a mutual
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love of heels. Like it was
almost like I don't know if I've ember
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seeing like two heels wrestler match and
afterwards you're like they're kind of like embracing
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each other almost. You know.
It was kind of weird, but it
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keeps him on that side of defense
at least, and that position Zima for
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bigger matches against some of the baby
faces in AW. Next match is samo
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Joe de Phoenix for Strickland and Hangman
adam As in a three way match and
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retaining the AW World Championship. We
both had Samojo again the victory here.
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The match itself I thought was all
right. It felt a little too slow
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paced for my liking. It looked
like every pin breakup was nearly botched.
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I did like Swerve not using Prince
Nana's crown to win the championship and the
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announcer's hyping up that Hangman may have
tapped out to avoid Swurf of winning the
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AW World Championship. The fans are
clearly really buying Swerb's squest to become AW
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World Champion, and it'll be interesting
to see where this goes heading into the
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new AW pay per view Dynasty.
A lot of people think, according to
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early reports, that Swerve will being
a AW World Championship match again. So
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if it's against samo Joe, that
means he's retained against Wardlow. Maybe MJF
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is back at Big Business as well. It was a it was an okay
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match, Doctor Trey samoj obtains,
Yeah, I mean I liked the match,
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but I didn't love the match.
But you know, once again,
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though, I'm I'm still not happy
that they've kind of turned Swerve face.
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You know, the crowds behind him. I kind of like the chakaner in
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the antics. It's kind of hard
to go from from doing a home invasion
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and threatening a guy's family to kind
of going straight babyface. And I know
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he's done really well in the promos
to kind of play it off and explain
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his rationale. But I certain guys
I like better as heels than I do
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his baby faces. Swerves one of
them, but overall it's still kept Swerve
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good. I like how the announcers
sold it that, you know, like,
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like you mentioned Page tapping out to
avoids were becoming champ, but at
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the same time that kind of protects
Adam Page from taking the loss, like
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his desire to want up swerve is
more than his desire to win the World
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Championship. Like that's good storytelling in
that sense and makes Adam Page still look
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like a viable contender whenever you circle
back to him. Yeah, and I
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thought hangman, Adam Paige was going
to come back as a heel because there's
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been all these reports that it's gonna
be taking time off. Based on the
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promo the Young Bucks cut on Wednesday's
Dynamite, it would appear he's coming back
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as a baby face again. Yeah, you don't get fired and come back.
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Typically you don't get fired and come
back as a heel. Well he's
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suspended, yeah, yeah, but
I mean he was excommunicated from Yeah.
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Yeah, so that's still basically being
fired by your bosses, from your from
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your group. So yeah, Typically
when those things happen, the guy,
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you know, it's either you come
back as the indentured servant a la Sean
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Michaels the JBL or something like that, or you come back just pissed off
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at your bosses. And people love
those guys. So it might be a
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way of refreshing the Page character as
well. But the storyline between him and
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Swerve is still not resolved, and
if Swerve's a baby face, it's kind
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of hard to do to have competing
babyfaces at the same time, you know,
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fighting each other, because at some
point the crowd's going to turn on
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one of them. So it's gonna
be interesting how they put all that together,
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if that's their their course of action, or does Page go off and
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do something else, And then we
can always circle back to him and Swerve
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down the line and bring up their
history. They put a big rocket ship
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on Swerve at on Wednesday's Dynamite when
he, like single hand lead defeated the
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Roah Tag team champions Matt David and
Mike Bennett along with samo Joe. He
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also had one of the best move
sequences I've ever seen, where it just
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like floats so well and he just
kept moving. I mean, Swerve's ascension
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this the past two years has been
like a thing of beauty. It's amazing
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to watch him grow. He was
a great character in an NXT towards the
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end there with hit Row. It
obviously did not take place on the main
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roster side with SmackDown because he wasn't
given a long enough leash to be successful.
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Very very happy for him. He's
always been touted as somebody on the
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independence prior to signing with w WEE
is like a talent to watch and it's
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fun seeing it really pay off right
now, and it's the momentum is shifting
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towards him probably become an AW World
champion sooner rather than later, which is
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pretty exciting. Next match here is
Stinging Darby Allen defeating the Young Bucks and
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a to NATO tag team match or
retain the AW World Tag Team Championship.
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Doctor Trey and I had Singing Darby
Allen one last time covering a Sting match.
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I just simply put as my notes, this was Sting's love letter to
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professional wrestling, and this was wrestling
fans' way of thanking sing for all the
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memories. It was a beautiful send
off for an amazing career, and thank
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you, Sting. I can't say
anything more else more about this, Doctor
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Trey. No. I thought the
introduction of having both the Sting's sons come
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out as you know, different versions
of Sting, and then even that,
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like you know, just everything in
this match was good for me because you
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know, when you have an older
gentleman in a match you kind of it's
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all all the mcfoley Rick Flair stuff, Like, Hey, if you can
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add in some props and some stunts
and some things that take away from him
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not being maybe the best ring technician
in the world anymore, Hey, it's
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great. And also like this is
one of those few matches where Sting had
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to be involved basically the entire time, which is rare for him running aw
430
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like, he had to be involved
in the match all the way through,
431
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where in the past we've seen Derby
do most of the work ste he comes
432
00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:10.359
at the end, or we do
the cinematic matches or something like that.
433
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This was Sting going all out for
all the people that were in that coliseum
434
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watching live, you know, for
all the fans he's ever had. This
435
00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:23.839
was his you know, swan song. And for a retirement match, this
436
00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:27.400
is right up there as one of
the best final matches for somebody that I
437
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can ever recall. Yeah, I
think maybe Undertaker A J. Styles I
438
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would put one that was, but
we didn't know that at the time,
439
00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:41.039
and even that was cinematic. Would
you have would you have yeah, would
440
00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:44.079
you have put Rick Flair Shawn Michaels
in there if rick Flair didn't come back
441
00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:48.720
like two three times. Yeah,
I mean, because that was a loss,
442
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:52.200
but it was still like amazing it
was, but that was this wasn't
443
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:56.759
I mean to a degree the Bucks
in Darby carried this match, but Sting
444
00:30:56.839 --> 00:31:00.640
still got there though. Man,
yeah, I just disagreed there. I
445
00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:03.799
think Sting was in there. Man. Well, I'm not saying he wasn't
446
00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:07.400
like Sean carried the Rick Flair match. Oh well, yeah, It's definitely
447
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:11.640
a different situation for sure. And
then Undertaker and AJ was the cinematic match.
448
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:14.359
You know, this one, Sting
was a Sting was in it the
449
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:18.400
entire time. But for the most
part, it was Darby the Bucks and
450
00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:21.640
taking them Like I mean, I
know Sting took a couple of big bumps,
451
00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:23.960
but he took a glass bump.
Man, I disagree with that saying
452
00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:27.160
that they like took all the bumps
with sugar Glass. I didn't say all
453
00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:30.160
of them. I said they took
most of the big bumps, you know.
454
00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:36.519
So you think that was sugar Glass
And the one that Darby did was
455
00:31:36.519 --> 00:31:38.279
was not. I No, I
think the one Derby did was legit class
456
00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:41.599
Yeah, yeah, No, I
mean, no doubt I thought it was
457
00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:45.000
both actually the same pieces of glass. It might have been. I don't
458
00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:47.839
know. It's just like to me, like, all I'm saying is,
459
00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:51.240
really, when you stacked those other
matches up there, this was a great
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00:31:51.400 --> 00:31:55.440
This is arguably the greatest per formula
because Sting was in the match and doing
461
00:31:55.559 --> 00:32:00.079
his part for the entirety of match, where Undertake and AJ was a great
462
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:04.039
match, but you could say,
well, they also had time to cut
463
00:32:04.039 --> 00:32:08.079
stuff out because it was cinematic flair
and Sean that was Sean carrying Rick through
464
00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:13.359
that match. Sting did his part
in this match, especially for a guy
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at his age. So for me, it's it's not it's Taker and Staying
466
00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:22.119
in their final matches is one A
and one B because of their performances pay
467
00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:24.279
per view prediction record, I went
eight and one. Doctor Trey win seven
468
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:28.559
and two. I'm nineteen and four
in the year Doctor Trey is seventeen and
469
00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:34.920
six. Match of the night and
event rating. I gave aw Revolution a
470
00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:38.400
four point two out of five and
the very short window of pay per views
471
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that we've watched so far this year. In the year twenty twenty four,
472
00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:45.480
this has been my favorite, and
my match of the night was will Osprinkinoski
473
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:51.240
Takeshka, So I was in a
four point zero. I think I had
474
00:32:51.240 --> 00:32:52.720
a couple of matches railed, but
lower than you. My match that I
475
00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:57.000
was singing in Darb against the Bucks. I think just for the nostalgia,
476
00:32:57.160 --> 00:33:00.599
the emotions, this is kind of
like you know, in a sense,
477
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:02.920
I mean stone cold and Kevin Owens
asked in a sense of like it's it's
478
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:07.039
all over the place, it's chaotic, but dere got it. That's a
479
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:08.880
great comparison. But it got me
all back, It got me all back
480
00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:14.519
up in my fields and everything else. So and then still Darby playing off
481
00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:17.599
of the staking stuff a little bit
on Wednesday night with the baseball bat to
482
00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:22.519
Jay White's throat, Like that's still
like stuff like that. That's always like
483
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:25.119
you be involved. So like it
was just like it was just great.
484
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:29.640
It was a fun match, but
they had also the nostalgia and the emotions
485
00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:31.640
coming to as well. Yeah,
I love the comparison there to Steve Austin
486
00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:37.000
Kevin Owens from Wrestlman thirty eight.
I think that spot on. And yeah,
487
00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:38.920
these guys, I mean, I
still can't get over staying at the
488
00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:44.240
age of sixty four was doing that
stuff. You know what's funny, Doctor
489
00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:51.279
Trey, is when back in the
nineties when we were growing up, remember,
490
00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:54.759
there was that period of time where
WWE was taking shots at WW and
491
00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:58.519
called it like the old Folks Home, and they were they had the Huckster
492
00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:01.920
and the Nacho Man, yeah,
and billionaire ted vignettes and they were like
493
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:07.559
talking about how old they were and
like at the time, like they were
494
00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:10.599
like forty five years old, yeah, and uh yeah, I mean they
495
00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:15.159
made it seem like they were sixty
four. So it's ironic you mentioned that
496
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because I was talking to Barry call
Off, the owner Rocket City, yesterday,
497
00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:24.079
and we were somehow we got on
the topic of WCW Dungeon of Doom,
498
00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:28.159
you know, which was right around
that time where they were bringing in
499
00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:31.559
John Tentton and calling him the Shark
or the Shark, and then you had
500
00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:35.519
I just watched The Dark Side of
the Ring on him John, Yeah.
501
00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:37.960
And then you got Brutus Beefcake as
the Zodiac, but he was also the
502
00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:42.679
Butcher at one point or that time
when you had all the old the man
503
00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:45.719
with no name, yeah, and
then you had but you had all the
504
00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:49.639
old woman villains you know, coming
through that time, and I was always
505
00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:52.599
like, yeah, it's just it's
it's it's sad. You see all these
506
00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:55.000
old guys coming back in for one
paycheck. But that was me at twenty
507
00:34:55.079 --> 00:34:59.280
two years old, twenty four years
old, and now at forty six,
508
00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:02.920
I see these guys out I see
the Billy Guns and the Jericho's and staying.
509
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:06.400
You know, these guys up there, yeah, you know, and
510
00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:08.639
I'm like, I got to give
those guys props. I mean, like
511
00:35:08.679 --> 00:35:12.400
it. It's also a different rule. Like those guys needed the money back
512
00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:15.400
then, those those old hulk Ogan
villains coming through. These guys that we
513
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:19.480
see still out there, they've done
pretty well for themselves. They don't need
514
00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:21.599
the money. They do it because
they love it, and my god,
515
00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:23.800
they're still damn good at it too, and they look like they have not
516
00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:28.400
missed a step. Sting does not
look like he's sixty four. Billy Gunn
517
00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:31.440
and Jeff Jarrett don't look like they're
in their fifties either. I mean,
518
00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:37.480
I mean, Edge is right around
the fifty age as well, and Christian
519
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:39.400
Cage isn't far behind them, and
they're in their late forties early fifties,
520
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:44.599
if I'm not mistaken on those two
guys. And you know, Christian Cage
521
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:47.079
still looks like Christian Cage when he
first cut the mullet off back in like
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00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:51.639
oh two. Like, I mean, it's crazy Jericho. Jericho's in his
523
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:55.280
late fifties now to Yeah, these
I think it's the Canadian guys don't age
524
00:35:55.360 --> 00:35:59.320
and Tennessee guys don't age. I
think it has a lot to do with
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00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:02.079
these guys take and a lot better
care for them of themselves obviously as well.
526
00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:08.159
I mean Billy Gunn looks like he
could walk into the three anybody and
527
00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:12.159
just who the crap out of him? And he's fifty six years old.
528
00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:15.119
He looks like nineteen ninety eight Billy
gun Yeah. But the way, I
529
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:20.320
actually just came across a little video
of homage to Billy Gunn as mister Ass
530
00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:22.400
and I was like, it's amazing
that character didn't get over because he was
531
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:25.760
basically just doing Sean Michaels. They
tried, remember he was in a feud
532
00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:29.119
with the Rock for a little bit
one King of the Ring, and it
533
00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:32.599
never panned out. Yeah, I
just I don't think they once that few
534
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:37.960
like once Rock kind of was the
poison. The poison Ivy on the Ass
535
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:40.559
was in that feud. Yes,
I forgot about that. That was like
536
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:44.920
a massuse, right, Yeah,
and I think that kind of killed the
537
00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:47.679
mister Ass gimmick. Yeah, and
I think he got injured as well shortly
538
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:51.440
after that, and then he came
back as like the one Billy Gun And
539
00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:54.559
yeah, that's all another story for
another day. Nonetheless, AW Revolution in
540
00:36:54.639 --> 00:36:59.159
the books one of the better shows
in my opinion of twenty twenty four thus
541
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:02.599
far. I just don't like that
AW does like that old WSW trick or
542
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:06.719
Tony Shavanni trick where it's like,
this is the biggest night in wrestling in
543
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:09.679
history. It's like, I think
it's Shavanni. I think when Shirvanni says
544
00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:14.480
it, it's a spoof on himself
because he gets so black for the nitro
545
00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:16.320
dew. Dude. There was so
many people saying it. I mean,
546
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:21.400
Renee Piquette and RJ City were saying
it throughout the whole entire pre show.
547
00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:23.519
I don't think that was a rib. I think that was legit. I
548
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:25.559
mean, I'm like, this is
your biggest pay per view of all time,
549
00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:30.719
not double or nothing. In twenty
nineteen, not all in twenty twenty
550
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:35.840
three in Wembley. Is your biggest
pay per view in Kenny of all time
551
00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:37.679
in Kenny? Omega's not on it. Yeah, yeah, I mean I
552
00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:40.920
would just say it's like, it's
a great night for profession professional wrestling.
553
00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:45.079
Definitely one of their better shows.
I have felt like in sometime docor Trey.
554
00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:49.519
I thought Wressell Dream Full Gear was
really good. I did not like
555
00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:52.840
World's End, but I feel like
at least three out of the last four
556
00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:55.119
pay per views have been very solid
for AW. Yeah, I mean not
557
00:37:55.199 --> 00:37:58.880
the mention is it the biggest night
when you guys did the Wimbley show.
558
00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:01.440
That's yeah, That's what I'm saying
before I mean, this is but this
559
00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:05.360
is the type of shows I like
about AAW. So, you know,
560
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:09.239
I was thinking about this where there
are times where I can do without almost
561
00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:15.400
dynamite collision. Certainly Rampage. Everybody
knows my my my budding feud with Rampage
562
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:21.480
lately. But every single match on
this card made with the exception of the
563
00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:24.440
Scramble match, which kind of made
sense because ward Low's chasing the world title
564
00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:30.719
and the result it had a creative
storyline. I mean, there's a lot
565
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:35.800
of this with like weird filler sometimes
on collision and rampage. Especially Dynamite always
566
00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:38.639
seems to be action packed. This
past Wednesday's edition of Dynamite was really well
567
00:38:38.679 --> 00:38:45.119
done. So it feels like creatively, aw's had a nice, good momentum
568
00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:47.360
right now, and I hope it
really carries itself to their next pay per
569
00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:52.119
view in April titled Dynasty, which
is the next one. So props AW
570
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:55.800
lately, as I mean, they've
been putting together a hell of a roster.
571
00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:00.840
They've got well ospray. We believe
that they have Mercedes mone coming this
572
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:07.000
upcoming Wednesday, and officially added this
past Wednesday night, Doctor Trey, and
573
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:13.199
we've talked about it here, Kazuska
Okada is all elite and then shockingly joins
574
00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:20.039
the elite Doctor Trey. I mean, AW, in five years has basically
575
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:24.480
taken every top independent new Japan pro
wrestling star. I mean, you've got
576
00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:30.360
Osprey, You've got Okada, You've
got Jay White, these were guys that
577
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:32.800
were basically running the show. You've
got Codo Bushie, who I know is
578
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:37.079
injured right now. You've got Kenny, You've got the Bucks you've got Hangman.
579
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:42.960
I mean they have drained New Japan
Pro Wrestling. We are not shocked
580
00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:46.000
by the signing of Okadago and all
elite. It was expected. We want
581
00:39:46.360 --> 00:39:50.079
We both talked about we wanted to
see him go to WWE because it was
582
00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:53.800
different. What I will say about
this debut, which was nice to see,
583
00:39:53.840 --> 00:39:58.920
is that him turning heel and siding
with the elite of the young Bucks
584
00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:01.559
was nice and different, and I
thought it was a really good introduction to
585
00:40:01.639 --> 00:40:05.679
him on the AW side as a
full time roster. Remember, I wish
586
00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:09.079
it was a little bit bigger because
I think worldwide, and all due respect,
587
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:13.800
I think will Ospray eventually becomes a
bigger star in the next two to
588
00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:17.559
three years in the United States and
beyond, but worldwide, Kausiscocata is the
589
00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:23.119
biggest signing out of Osprey Monet whoever
that they'll make in twenty twenty four.
590
00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:30.880
This is like John Cena for Japan
signing with AAW Yeah, and I'll get
591
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:32.880
so it's a huge signing for them. It's a huge get. He's still
592
00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:36.320
one of the best professional rest of
the world. He's gonna draw a lot
593
00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:39.519
of eyes internationally to AW. So
that's gonna be good for the products as
594
00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:45.400
well. I think him aligning with
the Bucks is a brilliant move because one
595
00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:50.239
of the issues he's going to have
for a little bit is his trends as
596
00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:53.480
he learns the English language is going
to be his promo skills in English.
597
00:40:53.880 --> 00:41:00.400
So aligning himself with the Bucks allows
him time to build that up kind of.
598
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:05.039
Let Nicholas and Matthew see what I
did there, do the talking for
599
00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:07.400
him as they build him up more
and more, and then he do on
600
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:12.760
the eventual turn. Then he's a
big breakout babyface. And then you know,
601
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:15.199
when he cuts his first promo,
the fans eat that stuff up.
602
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:19.480
So I think it makes a ton
of sense. I'm with you. I
603
00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:27.239
still think Osprey in four in three
years is a bigger US star than maybe
604
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:30.599
Okada is. But I think from
the jump as far as bringing eyes to
605
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:35.840
the table, Ocatta is the biggest
get they've got in quite some time.
606
00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:39.400
Yeah, I mean this is this
is a massive get for them. Okada
607
00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:44.719
and I just read before we record
it a fight full select is reporting is
608
00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:47.320
a three year deal worth four million
dollars per year, and Okada will be
609
00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:52.440
moving to the United States permanently,
so there's a feud in place from when
610
00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:58.880
Kenny hopefully returns soon from dive ticulitis. They moved forward with that storyline knowing
611
00:41:58.920 --> 00:42:04.079
that Kenny is is not due back
anytime soon unless it's something kept very very
612
00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:07.960
quiet, which Tony Kahan spoke about
on the media scrum that they don't expect
613
00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:13.599
Kenny back anytime soon. And I
think they're being very truthful in that their
614
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:19.000
talent roster and all Lead wrestling continues
to grow, it continues to be some
615
00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:22.960
of the best, if not the
best, in all professional wrestling. But
616
00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:27.719
with all due respect, they're still
chasing we right now who is as an
617
00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:35.400
all encompassing sports entertainment, professional wrestling
industry business show. Each and every week
618
00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:38.360
they're knocking it out of the park
heading into WrestleMania season. It's really nice
619
00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:43.280
to see. I mean, this
is starting to feel like nineteen ninety seven,
620
00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:46.079
ninety eight, ninety nine professional wrestling
to me, Doctor Trey. Yeah.
621
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And the one thing, and this
is sometimes when you have a huge
622
00:42:51.480 --> 00:42:57.039
talent raw a huge roster of talent, you're trying to be fair to everybody
623
00:42:57.079 --> 00:42:59.039
in the booking, which is when
you start getting a lot of fifty to
624
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:02.599
fifty booking and you know, or
guys get the start stop pushes. Is
625
00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:08.159
you need somebody to break out and
just grab the audience by the throat and
626
00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:13.320
hold on to them. And and
that's where I'm thinking that, Like,
627
00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:15.679
that's probably one of the thing they
talked about, was like, who's that
628
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:19.800
guy that we can kind of,
you know, build the show around that
629
00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:23.639
people have to tune in to see. And that's really what helped WWE catch
630
00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:30.000
WCW during that time was w CB
cop FI with the nWo and then WW
631
00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:31.440
got lucky. I don't say lucky, but it was I mean, it's
632
00:43:31.519 --> 00:43:36.760
talent, but DX and Stone Cold
took off and then that's when you got
633
00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:38.320
the back and forth, back and
the forth, and then one just stayed
634
00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:43.360
hotter than the other. And I
think that's what they're looking for now.
635
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:47.239
Like ww's their shows are so solid
every single week. It's kind of hard
636
00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:52.320
to chase down somebody when they're not
making mistakes and they're not knee jerk and
637
00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:58.119
reacting to what you're doing. But
as long as you keep building and building
638
00:43:58.159 --> 00:44:00.719
and you're solid and you're solid,
and you start to equal out over time,
639
00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:05.920
but you just need that one guy
to catch fire that everybody has to
640
00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:09.000
tune in and see where that the
UH to use an old school reference that
641
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:13.960
nobody uses anymore. You need that
water cooler talk. You need that Oh
642
00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:15.480
my god, do you a'ta see
what Swerve did on on Dynamite? Did
643
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:20.159
y'all see that? Like? You
need some kind of fun, crazy things
644
00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:24.480
that you know, grabs attention and
gets people that word of mouth to start
645
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:29.199
tuning into. So, you know, right now, like wrestling in a
646
00:44:29.239 --> 00:44:31.519
lot of ways feels like politics,
where you're either one side or you're the
647
00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:37.760
other. In reality, like the
best part of that rivalry of w cw
648
00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:43.719
WCWWWF back in the day was the
flipping back and forth to see the counter
649
00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:46.480
programming going on. UH. And
that's because they had two acts that were
650
00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:49.920
just on fire, and you had
to see what the nWo is going to
651
00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:52.800
do. You had to see what
Diamond Dawis Page was gonna do when he
652
00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:54.559
was, you know, getting diamond
cutters everybody. But you also had to
653
00:44:54.599 --> 00:44:57.760
see what DX was gonna do,
and you had to see what Austin was
654
00:44:57.800 --> 00:45:01.039
gonna do. So right now you
have a little bit of that in WW
655
00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:06.639
with the Cody Seth, bloodline stuff, and AW. Like I said earlier,
656
00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:09.280
maybe the best character on their roster
right now is Tony Storm and the
657
00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:15.599
hottest person they have is Swerve Strickling. Those two people aren't mainstream names right
658
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:16.960
now, so you just got to
figure out how to get those names out
659
00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:22.280
there for people to grab onto and
make sure they're turning into Dynamite and Collision
660
00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:23.840
every week. Yeah, if and
he keeps going right now, I mean
661
00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:29.360
will Ospray, I mean just I
think it's we're very lucky to be able
662
00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:34.280
to watch him each week on the
United States television here, of of all
663
00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:37.599
elite wrestling, I think we're very
very lucky to watch him because he is
664
00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:40.440
a phenomenal talent. Yeah, hold
on, just want to say the least
665
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:45.400
thing. The only issue with that
is phenomenal talent all those guys, but
666
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:50.679
you know, Swerve Osprey phenomenal wrestlers. Nobody can knock AW for their entering
667
00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:54.199
action. The only knock we have
on them is character develpment, because sometimes
668
00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:59.159
it's the characters that grab your attention
and make me tune in. And I
669
00:45:59.239 --> 00:46:04.000
don't know if we have great characters
in AW yet. I think Swerve is
670
00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:07.559
a great character. I do.
I think there's been a very natural growth
671
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:10.760
and development to his character. But
I do agree with you. If there's
672
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:15.559
one thing that AW really needs to
focus on, it's it's building that character
673
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:19.039
development. They're actually doing really good
job with that with Eddie Kingston right now
674
00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:22.559
as well. There's several others obviously, but those are ones that definitely come
675
00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:29.119
to mind. But you need something
to grab the mainstream audience attention to if
676
00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:30.880
you want, excuse me, if
you really want to start catching up to
677
00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:37.559
WWE, you need somebody to catch
fire that makes everybody not just yours.
678
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:42.880
You need something to grab everybody's attention
to turn it in. I'm with you,
679
00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:46.679
I think and I thought about this
during Revolution, and you and I
680
00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:52.639
will be fans of AW because we're
wrestling fans. I think the mainstream is
681
00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:55.559
probably going to be difficult to do
that because and fans may not like to
682
00:46:55.559 --> 00:46:59.760
hear this, but I think AW
is a very niche product. They are.
683
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:06.039
Their base is hardcore wrestling fans that
know who will lost Bray because it's
684
00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:12.440
gokata is. They're not looking for
the casuals that pop on because Dwayne the
685
00:47:12.519 --> 00:47:15.320
Rock Johnson the movie stars in there
and he's in the ring with Roman Rains,
686
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:20.159
who's you know, kind of become
a house It's basically a household name
687
00:47:20.159 --> 00:47:23.800
at this point. Roman Reigns for
professional wrestling like AW doesn't have that,
688
00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:30.280
And I think in the eyes of
people outside of the wrestling fandom bubble,
689
00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:36.400
this would be similar to like the
NFL is the W and the UFL no
690
00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:42.480
disrespect, disrespect their Rock is AW. It's I think mainstream people would be
691
00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:46.960
like, what is this knockoff w
show? Y WW was so successful when
692
00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:50.519
they were going to Totoe with W
and the Mondy Night Wars is because they
693
00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:53.519
had Hogan and I just don't think
AW will ever do that direction, Doctor
694
00:47:53.599 --> 00:48:00.800
Trey. I just can't see them
creatively booking shows like W will with the
695
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:06.000
growth that you're seeing right now from
like Rock and Roman Reigns with Bloodline and
696
00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:08.519
the stuff with Cody Rhoades and seth
Rolls, which we'll get to here momentarily.
697
00:48:08.880 --> 00:48:14.519
But maybe aw's trying with the recent
people that they've added, like Jennifer
698
00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:17.840
pepperd and Pepperman I think is your
last name who just came up from W.
699
00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:21.519
Won'll be helping with the women's division, so maybe they're gonna go to
700
00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:22.920
the direction. I just think at
the end of the day, I think
701
00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:28.360
AW is probably more of a niche
product. Yeah, but I mean,
702
00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:31.400
you think about when WCO caught fire. It took Holland Nash showing up on
703
00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:37.039
Nitro, It took the Luger's surprise
appearance. It took things like that to
704
00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:40.480
really get people talking like, oh
my god. Like it took crazy things
705
00:48:40.519 --> 00:48:45.280
that were outside the norm of professional
wrestling to get people to tune in.
706
00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:49.960
And then you know the nWo stuff
just in general, the Hogan turning heel,
707
00:48:50.039 --> 00:48:53.679
Like you have to have kind of
shocking moments to get people talking.
708
00:48:54.239 --> 00:48:58.440
Did the same thing with the DX
stuff and then the Tyson stuff, and
709
00:48:58.480 --> 00:49:01.360
then you know, Austin McMahon.
These were things that weren't the norm in
710
00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:05.199
wrestling, and I think it always
it's kind of like the same thing with
711
00:49:05.320 --> 00:49:07.559
movie business, where it's like,
oh, all the original ideas are taken,
712
00:49:08.119 --> 00:49:13.920
and then if you do anything that
even resembles something from WWE in nineteen
713
00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:16.880
ninety two, oh they did that
way, they did that in ww already,
714
00:49:16.920 --> 00:49:20.559
Yeah, thirty years ago, forty
years ago. You know, instead
715
00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:24.119
of let it go. But you
got to kind of shock the system a
716
00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:30.760
little bit to get people talking about
you and selling, not selling casual wrestling
717
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:36.079
fans on how great the n ring
action doesn't always work because if I want
718
00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:37.400
to and I don't think it will
work because if I want to see what,
719
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:39.679
if I want to see great fight, I can just watch UFC.
720
00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:44.639
I mean how Netflix Housemars Netflix,
and we just think got us today,
721
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:49.039
Jake Pauling and is Mike Tyson.
If you're launching a live sports division,
722
00:49:49.760 --> 00:49:53.039
that's gonna get eyeballs or your TV
because it's outside the norm. We need
723
00:49:53.079 --> 00:49:58.239
something outside the norm and aw to
get casual fans who start tuning in to
724
00:49:58.360 --> 00:50:01.360
TNT to watch the showing one thing. Yeah, and I don't think that
725
00:50:01.440 --> 00:50:07.559
happens anytime soon. Yeah. I
don't think they'll they'll be that mainstream product
726
00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:10.199
product that WE is. And it's
not because they're not doing anything good.
727
00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:15.840
I just don't think that there'll ever
be the w WE formula. I think
728
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:21.440
they want to be different and that's
fine, but casual mainstream fans don't give
729
00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:24.400
a shit about a forty five minute
match between like Will Ospring Kenoski takesha like
730
00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:28.679
we do. Yeah. Yeah,
here's the thing. Think about this match.
731
00:50:28.719 --> 00:50:34.320
You love the Osprey Takeshka match,
right, like, in six months,
732
00:50:34.360 --> 00:50:37.239
will you remember all thirty twenty eight
minutes thirty minutes of that match?
733
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:39.320
No, you remember the finish,
You'll marry a couple of spots, and
734
00:50:39.320 --> 00:50:43.000
you remember the end, and you
remember the emotion. And that's one thing
735
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:45.039
I teach you wrestlers, like is
not the in ring product, is the
736
00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:50.519
emotion you put out there that gives
people to come back. I think that
737
00:50:50.599 --> 00:50:53.199
was a highly emotional match, man. Yeah, I gotta disagree there.
738
00:50:53.239 --> 00:50:57.119
I know you're using that as like
an example, but I think I will
739
00:50:57.159 --> 00:51:02.159
remember will Osbury Kenoski Takeashka and Stinging
Darby Allen. I think sticking Darby Allen
740
00:51:02.239 --> 00:51:07.519
Young Bucks is a very we esque
match which you compared very beautifully there to
741
00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:10.960
like Steve Austin and Kevin Owens.
I think those will be memorable matches on
742
00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:14.679
that card. I don't. I
don't mean it like no, here's here's
743
00:51:14.679 --> 00:51:17.880
my comparison. So Shawn Michaels Brett
Hart wrestle Meane Iron, My match is
744
00:51:17.920 --> 00:51:22.199
my favorite match of all time.
I love that match. I could not
745
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:25.760
tell you every single move in that
match. Oh, of course I can.
746
00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:30.880
That's and that's my point. The
n ring action can be great and
747
00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:36.000
it's the emotion that you're selling,
but you don't always need you can have
748
00:51:36.119 --> 00:51:38.880
like Kevin Owens Stone Call was like
fifteen to twenty minutes. I can't remember
749
00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:42.760
all the fight sequents that match,
but I remember the emotion off that as
750
00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:45.239
well. And that's if I want
to see great action, like great physical
751
00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:49.719
fighting action, I can tune into
the UFC. Yeah, but that but
752
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:55.000
that's a aw is going to garner
emotion from great ng ring abilities like that's
753
00:51:55.159 --> 00:51:59.840
that's their product though, But you
have to take that emotion and put it
754
00:51:59.880 --> 00:52:04.360
in other areas as well, because
otherwise you're just a great wrestling product.
755
00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:07.960
Are you a great entertainment product?
I think I think they're doing a better
756
00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:10.840
job with that though. I Dynamite
was a really good show this past week,
757
00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:14.320
stemming off with a pay per view. I mean, there's a lot
758
00:52:14.360 --> 00:52:19.440
of good emotion there with Swerve and
Samoa Joe in that opening segment leading to
759
00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:22.440
the tag team match, Like I
thought, I thought, and I thought
760
00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:25.280
the match with Kyle Fletcher and Will
Osprey was really well done, I think
761
00:52:25.360 --> 00:52:29.800
if but I know their history,
I think if I was AW, I
762
00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:32.320
would have gone on with like a
video package the history between those two guys,
763
00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:37.000
because not everybody knows that they were
in United Empire together. Yeah,
764
00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:40.039
and that's and that's the thing there. There are times when I watch AW,
765
00:52:40.119 --> 00:52:44.960
that's the Storytelly has been much improved
the last few months, which I'm
766
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:49.800
really happy about. It's not a
lot of short sty is though they at
767
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:54.480
times kind of bank on you knowing
being a hardcore fan. Agreed, and
768
00:52:54.559 --> 00:53:00.599
I don't know if they ever want
to change. There's almost I don't like
769
00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:04.599
it's like when you have when those
people who own a Honda Prius, but
770
00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:07.880
they just anybody doesn't have a Prius
or doesn't have a smart car, it
771
00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:10.199
doesn't have a hybrid there, but
they're just dumb. It's almost like that
772
00:53:10.519 --> 00:53:15.079
this is this is getting political now
This is I mean, this is like
773
00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:16.639
a lot of things in general nowadays. I mean, this is the social
774
00:53:16.679 --> 00:53:22.039
media. I mean, this is
like the number one reason why wrestling fans
775
00:53:22.119 --> 00:53:25.760
bash, like the AW hardcorese Like
there's those AW Neckbeard's Twitter accounts out there,
776
00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:31.079
and they're pretty funny because it's like
like I think O'Hay Jackson, which
777
00:53:31.119 --> 00:53:35.559
is ice cube Son, Who's I
guess he's like the prominent voice now professional
778
00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:38.559
wrestling fandom for some reason, like
he and he hit it on the head.
779
00:53:38.639 --> 00:53:43.239
It's like, oh wow, who
is this guy? Like this British
780
00:53:43.239 --> 00:53:45.840
guy is really good and the AW
fans like this is Will Ospray. You
781
00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:49.559
don't know who this is? No, I don't, but I really like
782
00:53:49.599 --> 00:53:52.320
it. And their response is well, you're an idiot, like and you're
783
00:53:52.360 --> 00:53:55.119
not a wrestling fan. And it's
like wait what, Yeah, it's they
784
00:53:55.119 --> 00:54:00.159
have almost like an elitist attitude about
their right professional It's in the name.
785
00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:05.719
Yeah. So it's like it's a
niche product. I think it's a niche
786
00:54:05.760 --> 00:54:07.119
product. And I hate to say
that because I enjoy it, but it's
787
00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:12.119
niche. It's owning the hybrid car, owning the smart car in comparison everybody
788
00:54:12.159 --> 00:54:15.760
else. Yeah. I again,
I will say creatively, I think AW
789
00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:22.320
is building upwards towards of the mainstream
aspects than what we've seen in like the
790
00:54:22.400 --> 00:54:27.760
last two years. I think they're
doing a match much better job. But
791
00:54:27.840 --> 00:54:30.360
there are times where you've got to
introduce the CML El Sars that I don't
792
00:54:30.360 --> 00:54:34.559
know. I mean I don't know
every single one. Like Hennasario was like
793
00:54:34.599 --> 00:54:37.239
the first time I ever saw him, and he was phenomenal in the ring,
794
00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:40.599
really enjoyed it. What was his
name? Is it Henner Sario?
795
00:54:42.239 --> 00:54:46.679
Oh? I thought you said Hennessy. Does you know the guy who's like
796
00:54:46.760 --> 00:54:51.719
the magician? I thought he was
really good. June Akayama out of d
797
00:54:51.840 --> 00:54:57.199
DT. I mean I haven't seen
June Okayama matches many of them or wait
798
00:54:57.239 --> 00:55:00.639
a minute, no progressing? Noah, I think he is. I don't
799
00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:04.880
know. I had her name June
Akiyama since w CW n W O Revenge.
800
00:55:05.599 --> 00:55:08.079
Is he in that game? Well? No? There? Who was
801
00:55:08.119 --> 00:55:13.679
the there was a guy uh from
is here a New Japan and that he
802
00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:15.719
had to run in w CW.
He's in that game. There's a few
803
00:55:15.840 --> 00:55:21.760
Japanese wrestlers. Yeah, it's Who's
Blue Justice over in New Japan. He
804
00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:29.760
just was on there taking on Brian
Danielson. Oh God, Eugene Nagata,
805
00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:32.960
Yes, Eugeniagatta. That's who I
was like, that's that's like when last
806
00:55:34.000 --> 00:55:37.519
time I heard June Akayama was in
the New Eugen Nagata days. Yeah,
807
00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:39.599
and that was like everybody was with
Son and that's when w W w W
808
00:55:39.920 --> 00:55:45.000
was was feuding with New Japan.
There was an entire star k that was
809
00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:47.719
based around WW versus New Japan,
and that was in the days when they
810
00:55:47.760 --> 00:55:54.079
were they were a niche Southern product. Did Eric Bischoff do Forbidden Door before
811
00:55:54.119 --> 00:55:57.679
Forbidden Door? Oh? Yeah,
do you remember that one? Stark?
812
00:55:57.840 --> 00:56:00.599
Yeah, now that I think about
it, like i'd only that out of
813
00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:02.400
my memory for a while, I
think it was like Stark ninety five.
814
00:56:04.079 --> 00:56:07.400
Yeah, like that's yeah, that's
in my wrestling history. It was the
815
00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:09.599
World Cup of Wrestling. Yeah,
it was WW taking on New Japan.
816
00:56:10.679 --> 00:56:15.199
Oh my goodness, their memories they're
making it flow back anyway. But yeah,
817
00:56:15.239 --> 00:56:17.320
like I to me, it's it's
you know, look, you're right,
818
00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:22.360
it's a niche product that is trying
to slowly make its way out.
819
00:56:22.360 --> 00:56:23.840
It's a little bit it's a little
bit of E. C. Wish as
820
00:56:23.840 --> 00:56:28.679
well, in the sense of like
when people were ECW fans and they're like,
821
00:56:28.679 --> 00:56:30.599
oh, you don't know who Nujack
is, then you're stupid. It's
822
00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:36.199
like you're on like fifteen televisions channels. How would I know this like it's
823
00:56:36.280 --> 00:56:38.800
it's a little bit of that attitude
as well, but just they just have
824
00:56:38.920 --> 00:56:44.440
better financing than Paul Hayman did back
in the day. Let's switch gears speaking
825
00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:49.800
of Paul Hamon to WWE here real
quick, Paul Hamon and Bowl Nakana where
826
00:56:49.800 --> 00:56:52.119
announced as the first inductees for the
w Hall of Fame class of twenty twenty
827
00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:55.519
four. I mean, we could
do an entire podcast here on Paul Hayman
828
00:56:55.599 --> 00:57:00.679
and his impact to professional wrestling.
Bull Nakano, I got to be honest,
829
00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:02.519
I did not see many of her
matches. I remember her feud in
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ninety four with a lunch of Blaze
in ninety five becoming the w F at
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the time women's champion. But I
mean two great first inductees here, certainly
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Paul Hayman in the home area of
extreme in Philadelphia and bol Nakana, one
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of the most influential women's wrestlers in
history. Yeah, Bo Nakano inspired so
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many women's the best phoenixes of the
world. Awesome Kong. We'll tell you
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that she's a huge bowld nccano fan. I was amazing. That's how A
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picture of Boll Nacanna recently she looks
nothing like the boldon nccano I remember from
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that lunder Blaze view, but like
she looks phenomenal. Agreed, I saw
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it too recently. I was like, damn, but yeah, like just
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two Like it's it's that big knockout
star you need, which is the Paul
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Hayman going to Philadelphia to go in
the Hall of Fame. And then you
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get the bowmacana, which gives you
that like hardcore wrestling fan credibility for the
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Hall of Fame as well. It's
gonna be interesting else, they added to
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Max, it's gonna be interesting who
they have induct Paul Hayman. Like I'm
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waiting to see that is I saw
something I can't reverer who was? But
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on Twitter they're like, just give
Paul Hayman the microphone, Like keep all
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the other inductions be short, and
then just give Paul Hayman the mike for
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forty five minutes and people will go
home happy. So I would have best
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guest Brock Lesner before all this stuff
went down. Yeah, but even then,
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I as much as I love Brock, I don't know if Brock would
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give a great induction speech. Brock's
not known for being the best. He's
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good, but I'd thought to Dreamer
do it. I wouldn't be surprised if
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it's Steve Austin or CM Punk.
That's a good one too. I mean
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there's plenty of great people, I
mean dangerous alliance. Anybody in E CW.
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Tommy Dreamer would be fantastic. Cmpunk
would be phenomenal as well. So
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I know they only do it for
like some of the headliners now inductees,
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because remember Conyan did it for Ray. But yeah, we'll have to see
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what goes on here. So bul
Nakana Paul Hayman first inductees into the WA
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Hall Film Class to twenty twenty four, and then quick here to wrap up
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our resume and he forty card round
up. No match is confirmed this week,
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but rumored expected Doctor Trey Roman Reigns
and the Rock versus Cody Roads and
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Seth Freaking Rollins has gained some traction
momentum. I fully expect this podcast drops
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on Friday morning, that this match
will become official on Friday Night's edition of
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SmackDown. Yeah, and I'm wondering
why they're saving it for SmackDown, Like
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why didn't Cody and Seth just accept
on Raw Monday Night. But yeah,
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yeah, anyway, like why do
we gotta wait a whole week when those
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two guys technically technically still are Raw
superstars, But yeah, I fully expect
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that to happen. I also like
the you know, if we win,
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then bloodline rules. I'm like,
do we know what bloodline rules are?
869
00:59:42.639 --> 00:59:45.119
Because we're gonna make that up as
it goes. But uh well he did
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explain it. I mean he said, like anything goes At this point,
871
00:59:46.400 --> 00:59:50.159
I say, anything goes. But
I love that that is bloodline rules,
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00:59:50.239 --> 00:59:52.840
not just hey, not just the
traditional not Q anything goes match that we've
873
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been doing four one hundred years.
And then you know, I think you
874
00:59:57.519 --> 01:00:00.639
want to add a little bit of
spice of that though, right yeah yeah,
875
01:00:00.880 --> 01:00:02.599
and then if Cody and Saith when
the Bloodline won't get involved at all?
876
01:00:02.760 --> 01:00:07.519
Though, but yeah, like I
love This's gonna be fun and I
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01:00:07.800 --> 01:00:10.760
love that the Rocks still like hyping
it was the biggest tag team Magine history,
878
01:00:10.760 --> 01:00:15.079
and I'm like, I mean,
I remember the Bag of Powers in
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01:00:15.119 --> 01:00:17.320
Andre and DEBIOSSI. That was pretty
big. I remember that one. So
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01:00:17.360 --> 01:00:22.480
it's up there and what did you
think about Rock acknowledging Roman reigns as his
881
01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:28.719
tribal chief. There seems to be
like some growing concerns that Roman doesn't maybe
882
01:00:28.719 --> 01:00:32.119
believe him. Rock threw up the
l again and then went back to the
883
01:00:32.159 --> 01:00:36.320
one, and Paul Hayman has a
thing where he's staring at the Rock and
884
01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:40.280
has like a smug look on his
face that's been captured on Twitter. What
885
01:00:40.360 --> 01:00:43.760
do you think about all that stuff
that took place there, because it's definitely
886
01:00:43.800 --> 01:00:47.039
starting to set up the Rock and
Roman storyline. Yeah, and I think
887
01:00:47.119 --> 01:00:51.000
this is where you see that crack
of the foundation where if Roman loses,
888
01:00:51.039 --> 01:00:53.880
he blames the Rock for doing it, and then you know, then you
889
01:00:53.920 --> 01:00:58.800
get the solo and Jimmy and Roman
beat down the Rock for the Rock to
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01:00:58.800 --> 01:01:01.719
come back as the baby face,
you know around summerslame time or if they
891
01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:06.599
stretched all way out to wrestle Media
forty one. So I think this is,
892
01:01:06.760 --> 01:01:09.199
you know, perfect storytelling because you
can't have those two. It was
893
01:01:09.280 --> 01:01:13.400
kind of It's similar when you know
what the plan for Austin and Triple H
894
01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:16.960
as a two man ego trip was
for them to run rough shot of everybody
895
01:01:17.000 --> 01:01:21.760
until they based their egos, you
know, overshoot each other. This is
896
01:01:21.800 --> 01:01:25.360
just traditional story. So I love
that. Basically like Roman made Rock acknowledge
897
01:01:25.400 --> 01:01:30.639
him, almost like prove his loyalty
in a sense. But then you know,
898
01:01:30.639 --> 01:01:32.679
you can't really trust the Rock.
It's the Rock. I mean,
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01:01:32.679 --> 01:01:37.159
he's turned on everybody. He's not
he's not big show level, but he
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01:01:37.880 --> 01:01:42.360
would baby face it. Heel quite
a bit during his run, so but
901
01:01:42.519 --> 01:01:44.760
just yeah, I mean he is
at the end of the day, the
902
01:01:44.840 --> 01:01:49.760
Rock is technically a high chief in
the ny family and Rome was just a
903
01:01:49.760 --> 01:01:54.760
tribal chief. So very true.
And then they didn't move make some movement
904
01:01:54.760 --> 01:01:59.599
here in the Intercomal Champion Doctor Trailer
will be a gauntlet match on Monday's Raw.
905
01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:01.679
Sammy's Ay and Ricochet, Chad Gable, Bronson, Reid chins Key,
906
01:02:01.760 --> 01:02:06.880
Knockimore or j D McDonald all be
battling for the right to take on Gunther
907
01:02:07.079 --> 01:02:10.920
at WrestleMania forty. I don't know
how this shakes out. I think there's
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01:02:12.079 --> 01:02:16.719
two leading candidates here, Doctor Trey, Sammy Zin or Chad Gable that this
909
01:02:16.760 --> 01:02:21.599
is going to be interesting. I
think this is a mut obviously a must
910
01:02:21.639 --> 01:02:24.599
watch match on Monday because it's not
so cut and dry that like, yeah,
911
01:02:24.599 --> 01:02:27.519
I think it's gonna be Sammy z
Ayin. Yeah, I think it's
912
01:02:27.519 --> 01:02:30.360
gonna be Chad Gable. I think
those two are the lead horses in there.
913
01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:34.519
But yeah, this is I think
this is a fun way of doing
914
01:02:34.519 --> 01:02:37.039
this for the Intercal Championship at WrestleMania. Not to mention you had a really
915
01:02:37.079 --> 01:02:40.760
solid mess means Sammy and Ivar on
raw as well, So yes, Ivar
916
01:02:40.840 --> 01:02:45.679
is awesome. It's it's it's gonna
be really interesting to see where they go
917
01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:49.519
with this because honestly, here's what's
Gre's the crazy thing. I was kind
918
01:02:49.519 --> 01:02:53.400
of hoping for Goother and Dominic because
I just want to see Goother's like chopped
919
01:02:53.440 --> 01:03:00.280
Dominic for fifteen minutes, and you
know that whole Judgment Day Imperium face off
920
01:03:00.400 --> 01:03:04.119
is like, all right, well
where we go with this? So it's
921
01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:08.239
it's interesting because with that little bit
of a face off, does JD McDonagh
922
01:03:08.280 --> 01:03:12.559
jump up into the top three of
picks, So that way you get a
923
01:03:12.559 --> 01:03:15.760
little bit of Judgment Day and Imperium
and WrestleMania. So it's interesting. I
924
01:03:15.760 --> 01:03:19.760
think you and I mentioned it was
for us. I think it was both
925
01:03:19.840 --> 01:03:24.519
like either Sammy or Chad Gable.
It'll be interesting to see which which horse
926
01:03:24.599 --> 01:03:29.960
they run with here, because I
think Sammy is maybe are the more popular
927
01:03:30.039 --> 01:03:32.079
of the two, But I think
Gable gives you the best story because that
928
01:03:32.119 --> 01:03:36.239
goes back to what they were doing
over the you know, over the fall
929
01:03:36.320 --> 01:03:39.400
month with that whole Gable Gother stuff
and Gable's daughter and everything else. So
930
01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:44.480
it's gonna be interesting which which way
they pick coming out of Monday Night Wrong.
931
01:03:45.079 --> 01:03:49.199
There you go. So that's the
latest WrestleMania forty card round up,
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01:03:49.239 --> 01:03:52.800
Doctor Trey. We'll obviously have some
clarity. I expect at least two matches
933
01:03:52.840 --> 01:03:57.360
to be confirmed by we by the
time we meet again here. Obviously the
934
01:03:57.400 --> 01:04:00.679
two matches we just discussed, and
who knows how much which more we will
935
01:04:00.719 --> 01:04:05.119
see heading into Wrestling forty. With
that said, let's close up shop on
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01:04:05.159 --> 01:04:09.440
this week's edition of SRTU. We'll
get a couple plugs and spots out of
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The Doctor Trey and of course don't forget
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01:04:27.840 --> 01:04:30.639
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01:04:30.679 --> 01:04:33.880
going on in the one for world
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01:04:33.920 --> 01:04:36.400
like Jeff said, you can follow
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You can find me on Facebook and
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importantly, go check out your local
independent wrestling show where you two can find
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a female wrestler that will end up
dating if we'll remember JAS Society at some
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point in aw there you go support
all the great things that support s r
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01:05:04.440 --> 01:05:09.760
TU and so much more. It's
it's amazing just ruby soho dates one person,
953
01:05:09.840 --> 01:05:12.920
Doctor Trey and you you seem a
little bit jealous. I gotta admit
954
01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:15.840
it. A little. I'm a
Ruby, soho looks because I saw her
955
01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:18.000
in IWA Mid South when she was
first breaking into the business, so that
956
01:05:18.199 --> 01:05:24.400
my statement holds true that I saw
this woman wrestling at Independence Show and now
957
01:05:24.400 --> 01:05:28.119
she's dating a member of the JAS
Society. I didn't know there was a
958
01:05:28.119 --> 01:05:32.920
few between Doctor Trey and when it's
not Daddy Magic, I always hit their
959
01:05:32.960 --> 01:05:38.559
names mixed up. It was Angelo
Parker, Yeah, cool Hand Ange,
960
01:05:39.199 --> 01:05:45.159
cool Hand Ange and Daddy Magic.
So the former two point zero Magic was
961
01:05:45.239 --> 01:05:46.719
actually one of my first gamer tags. But I was built at m a
962
01:05:46.880 --> 01:05:54.119
j uk. I missed those days. I missed those days. All right,
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01:05:54.159 --> 01:05:57.559
that'll do it for this week's edition
of SRTU. Spread the word about
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the story world of this show.
Enjoy your weekend and enjoy your week of
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professional wrestling and until next week.
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