July 20, 2023

How is the "2nd coming" of CM Punk going so far? | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #701 – 7/20/23

How is the "2nd coming" of CM Punk going so far? | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #701 – 7/20/23

On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show, Jeff & Dr. Trey Franklin:

- -- Discuss what they think of the "2nd coming" of CM Punk in AEW so far!
- -- If we have been enjoying "AEW Collision!"
- -- We give AEW creative some massive props!
- --...

On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show, Jeff & Dr. Trey Franklin:

  • -- Discuss what they think of the "2nd coming" of CM Punk in AEW so far!
  • -- If we have been enjoying "AEW Collision!"
  • -- We give AEW creative some massive props!
  • -- And we talk about the huge history WWE made during the recent "Tribal Court" episode of SmackDown!
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It's stupid up. Welcome everybody.
Welcome to this week's edition This is No

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Real DAW Show, Episode number seven
hundred and one, July twenty, twenty

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twenty three. Welcome to this week's
edition of at d You. I am

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one at the show. I am
Jeff Jack going every single week to my

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cost I want only doctor Trey Franklin, Doctor Trey. Are you a collider?

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My friend? I don't even know
what that is, like like the

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the super collider they have in Denmark
that I heard about Big Bang Theory where

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they make Adam's explode? Like,
what what is a collider? You didn't

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hear cm punk refer to the fans
of collision to be collider. Oh that

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means I have to watch the show. Who It's on a Saturday, Jeff

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may have kids. Is really hard
to watch a wrestling show on a Saturday.

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Whoa, whoa? Okay, we'll
stay tuned here, folks, because

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where about a month in on aw
Collision And it's something I wanted to bring

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up here on this week this show. Did not know that about doctor Trey.

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We'll have to investigate that more here
on this week's SRTU Doctor Trey.

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First thing I want to talk about
here is while we're also a month in

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of AW Collision, we are also
a month in of the second coming of

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one C. M. Punk in
All Elite Wrestling. Being that you I

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guess aren't watching Collision, but I
know you've tuned in a little bit to

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Forbidden Door. I'm sure you're up
to stuff on social media and the YouTube

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out there in regards to Punk's current
second coming here, what are your thoughts

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so far if you have any in
regards to see him Punk back in AW.

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I mean it's it's anytime see him
Punks in a wrestling ring and in

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a wrestling business is good, Like
he always is a magnet for publicity of

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any kind. My only critique is, I mean, what has he done?

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Like he's had some matches, he
got screwed over by Ricky Starks,

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but like outside of that, like
we haven't had the we haven't had a

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feud really kickoff. We really haven't
seen him. You know, everybody's everybody

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today is sitting here waiting for him
to start something with the Elite and it's

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not happening. And you know that
they had the great six man tag with

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Bullet Club Goal. But outside of
that, not a lot going on wrestling

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wise, and he's actually been kind
of under the radars. He hasn't really

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caused any waves. So maybe he's
just being a modeling boy right now,

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and I'm critiquing him for not being
or for being a model employee instead of

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being the jerk that we all know
him love. So let's let's mark this

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here, because very few occasions on
SRTU do we disagree, and it could

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just be the way that you're using
the language here, So I'll have to

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dig a deep into this, Doctor
Trey. But I think from a wrestling

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standpoint, Shimpunk has done a lot. I think he's had three He's had

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four matches since he's been back,
in AW six Man Tag on aw Collision,

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the debut, the match with Kojima
at Forbidden Door, the match with

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Samoa Joe at Collision, and then
the match with Ricky Starks on Collisions.

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So from a wrestling standpoint, pure
in ring wrestling standpoint, I think it's

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been great to see C. Himpunk
back. I think overall, he looks

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rejuvenated, he looks refreshed, and
this run of first couple of C.

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Himpunk match matches in aw during the
Second Coming are a lot better than the

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first run of the first Dance in
aw as he was really knocking off the

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rush after seven eight years away from
the company. I think maybe where we

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will agree is the creative standpoint.
There is really no true direction for Punk

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right now, but we may be
starting to come out of that cloud of

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smoke because of what happened in the
Owenhart Foundation tournament finals when Ricky Starks cheated

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the babyface. Ricky Starks cheated to
defeat Sampunk and win the tournament. So

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I think we're a wrestling standpoint,
I think we are seeing a whole lot

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with Sampunk and again, I feel
like he is rejuvenated. From the creative

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standpoint, I'm with you, it's
it's kind of been a slow burn as

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to what direction we will see Sampunk
goes. So I don't know if we're

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in agreement on my interpretation of Punk
Second Coming so far. Yeah, yeah,

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because it's kind of my thing is
like they're like, that's what I'm

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saying, Like when when he's in
wrestling, it's great, Like he's a

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fantastic wrestler, and even those first
few matches he had when he came back

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up in seventy eight year hiatus.
They weren't bad matches. They would maybe

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have been bad by his standards that
he set. But this this run that

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he's on now, the match has
been great. It's just like you know,

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like you were saying, and maybe
I poorly would, there's just no

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creative direction right now. And we
have you know, him coming back.

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We were like, oh, they
can do this, and they can do

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this, and they can do this, and we're hitting Punk and Ricky starts.

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Maybe like great for Ricky, but
is that what's going to get people

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to the TV, Like that's what
that was, is that was gonna get

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me to cancel my Saturday plans and
sit down and watch Collision and be a

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collider. Um, I don't know
if that's the thing that moved the needle

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for me, Like I'm kind of
waiting for a bigger fish to fall into

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see him punk Slap more so than
just Ricky starts. So and that was

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also my critique of the first run, like matches with Hobbs and things like

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that, whereas like like you have
a money making draw and we're putting them

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in the ring with mid card guys
at best you know, so it is

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kind of a questionable creative choices they're
making for CMPUNK right now. Well,

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I mean it could be, right. The big thing here is, from

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the behind the scene standpoint, we
aren't having a lot of drama hitting the

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dirt sheets right now, which is
a good thing. That's what we want

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to hear with AW. We don't
want the drama, even though you give

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us a lot more fodder to talk
about here on SRTU. But that's when

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we go from being SRTU to being
like srt Unza, which we don't want

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to be on a weekly basis.
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right, I mean, and well, the creative stuff, excuse me,

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is it's possible doctor Trey with this
kind of weird roster splits of Dynamite and

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collision, that there's some top names
that don't want to work with him still.

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And we are recording this before Blood
and Guts on AW Dynamite this week,

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so it's very well possible. Maybe
something happens, so forgive us.

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But if there isn't, we're to
keep chugging along because I believe Sean rash

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Sapp from Fightful had a report out
there that Punk pitched himself as the fifth

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man for the Blackpool Combat Club to
take on the Golden Elite. So there

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seems if that is to all be
true, and Sean rash Sapp is a

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phenomenal reporter, so I would believe
it to be true. There's a lot

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out there that makes me think that
Punk is willing to make some money off

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of this perceived feud between real life
heat between he and the Elite, makes

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some money while on the other side
they are not interested in that, which

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I think is bad business. So
he may be limited right now creatively doctor

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Trey and the people that want to
work with him. And and I'm not

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against somebody like Ricky Stark's getting that
shine in that rub because it's only got

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to elevate his game him when he's
in the ring with a guy like Sampunk

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Noll and that sense, That's what
I was saying, Like, good for

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Ricky Starks. But you know,
when you have arguably one of the top

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five I don't want to say pro
wrestlers, but one of the top five

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personalities in professional wrestling, you're just
kind of limiting him a little bit,

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like he should be the reason people
are tuning in every single week to collision

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because that's how you positioned it with
this perceived roster split. And you know

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it's maybe if they had just gone
in with a straight few with him and

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Jay White, I'd be more on
board or somebody else like that, that

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maybe he's a little higher on the
food chain than Ricky Starks. But you

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know, it's great for Ricky Starks, but you know, he just had

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a few with Chris Jericho not too
long ago, Like, do we really

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need this? Does he really need
another rub if he's not getting over by

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getting these rubs me and I understand
what you mean and that sense of does

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he need that rub from CM punk
to help out his career? I think

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he does because I do feel like
he fell off a little bit coming out

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of that Jericho feud. That's one
thing that I there's not many things that

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you could critique Chris Jericho on and
it isn't his fault necessarily, but like

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when guys, these young guys are
coming out of feuds with him, nothing

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is really followed up on, which
is going to be very ironic later on

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the show, and we talk about
aw creative because I have some positives to

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talk about in regard to them,
but you could say the same thing about

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Eddie Kingston, Orange Cassidy and now
Ricky Starks as well. Like, really,

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the only guy that came out of
that the feud with Jericho that was

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a young guy that came out really
well was like MJF. So I don't

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know, I think that's more AW
Creative's fault than anything. But there's a

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lot of folks on that small collision
roster right now that I think could really

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benefit from feuding with Sampunk. I
would have lost the bet that Ricky Starks

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would be the first person to begin
feuding with Sampunk potentially in AW. But

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I'm here for it. I'm interested
in seeing it. It's similar to when

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he first returned to the company and
he had that match at all out with

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Darby Allen in twenty twenty one with
his first match back. That's the guy

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that they chose for that, and
you know that worked out pretty decent and

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Darby has always benefited from that early
on in his AW career. So,

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I mean, all in all,
outside of everything that we're talking about here,

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I just want to go back to
the point that it does feel like

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to me, Doctor Trey that Punk
is happy to be back. He's happy

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to be back in aw specifically,
he's having fun and he just seems rejuvenated,

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Like it's just it's coming off the
screen that he is motivated and rejuvenated

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to kind of prove everybody wrong in
the narrative that was spun about him since

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the brawl out of September twenty twenty
two and I'm here for We've talked positively

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about Sampunk plenty times on the show. We've talked negatively about Sampunk, especially

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over the last couple of months,
several times on this show. It's better

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for professional wrestling fans when you're talking
positively about Sampunk and when he's rejuvenated,

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when he's motivated, we are the
only ones that benefit from it. And

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I think, to me, that's
the biggest takeaway of this current second coming

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of Sampunk right now, is that
you could just tell on the screen he

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wants to be there and he's having
some fun, which is great for us.

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I mean, do we think that
him just being around the elite during

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that first run made him so jaded
by the end that he just because he

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did look miserable towards the end of
that first run, like, is it

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all the faults of the elite or
was it something else? Because right now,

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you're right, he looks rejuvenate,
he looks happy. He's with people

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that he you know, trusts.
You know, he's being the model employee

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right now, Like see him.
Punk might be aw employee of the month.

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I mean, he might get he
might get up from parking space next

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to Tony Khn's car when he rolls
into Jacksonville. But it was it just

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being around Kenny and the bucks and
Hangman Page that just kind of made him

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that miserable towards the end or was
there something else that we don't know about.

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I think it has a lot to
do with the drama behind the scenes.

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I think in some of the stuff
that you've read from Punk since he's

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returned that it probably wasn't handled correctly
behind the scenes like it should have been,

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and that falls on Tony Kahn and
upper management a W two not address

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those situations. The Hangman Page promo
leading into their match at Double or Nothing

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that basically tongue and cheek talked about
workers' rights and then the perceived a notion

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that Punk had called Cabana demoted.
You know, removed whatever, So it

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just feels like that it probably probably
wasn't handled in the separation between the two

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groups, the two personalities wherever you
sit when it comes to that is what's

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best for there behind the scenes business, which doesn't correlate to what's best for

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the onscreen business. Because if you
did a punk elite feud coming out of

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blood and Guts and head an into
all in and all out, you're going

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to have like ninety thousand people in
Wembley Stadium and want to see that.

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And I think they're up to over
seventy seventy five thousand sold right now.

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You could hit ninety if you're hitting
that match, And maybe that's a plan

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all along, But it just seems
like overall this current punk run four weeks

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in has been good, and I
hope it says that way, and I

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hope at some point we get the
benefit of the feuds that we do want

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to see between CM Punk and folks
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Keeping with AW, this is gonna
be pretty predominantly AW focus here on

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this week condition of the pod,
because we really haven't had a chance to

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talk about them all that much.
Lately. I wanted to ask on the

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show, and you kind of tipped
your your hand here, doctor Trey.

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I wanted to ask, what did
we think of aw E Collision so far?

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Our listeners are asking us what we
think so far? We're a month

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in. I feel like four weeks
in was going to be a good spot.

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And we kick off this podcast and
you're saying, you're not really watching

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the show, So why is that? Have you tuned into parts of the

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show. What have you seen in
the show? Have you seen nothing at

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all? Where are you standing on
an aw Collision right now? So I

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turned, I tuned into the first
episode, watched part of the second one,

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and that I've missed three and four
and a lot of it was just

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like the hype abo about punk being
back. That was great, want to

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see that. And then it just
kind of, I don't want to say

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it felt like a better rampage,
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good wrestling show. But I mean, once again, when you have a

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wife and you have kids, like
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watch every single Saturday night six oh
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grown up, because I had other
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a bad time slot for the show. But you know, especially for folks

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like me that you know, I'm
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when shows are usually on Saturday.
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it's like, Okay, I can
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stuff with the family Monday, I
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up dynam Where do I squeeze this
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So I'm just a little bit hamstrung
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it back into my routine. You
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I said on the show, like
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Two hours again another show on especially
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catching probably the first hour while I'm
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time I get home on a Saturday
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day on Sunday, typically Sunday evenings
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But I will say what I have
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out to me is it's a different
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thing. I think one of my
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there's no real difference it feels like
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Gold, Ricky Stark's Powerhouse, Hobbs, Samoa, Joe Scorpio, sky Mero,

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the House of Black. It seems
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of stars that they are focusing on
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that, the matches like this most
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The FTR, Bullet Club, Gold
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three falls match, very very high
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to that, then eliminator match which
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before that a week earlier was another
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Like some of those matches that we've
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Bullet Club, Goal j White and
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come the end of the year by
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the Year candidates. I'm enjoying the
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and really high props to AW four
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whether it is live or for most
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delay. I've been really enjoined aw
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recommend it, Doctor Trey when you
can to DVR this show and check it

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out because it's been phenomenal. So
I amen, Look, you're the one

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that got me into NXTUK, so
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I will jump back into watching it. I know mister Liam Kelly reached out

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to me about it and I didn't
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my answer. I just haven't been
watching enough. But I will squeeze it

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back into my routine. I do
have mondays where I'm off, so maybe

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I just sit down with Sammy.
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We become colliders ourselves. Yeah,
FTR Bull Club Gold stuff amazing like

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I did not think J White Juice
Robinson would be two guys I would typically

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think of as as tag team stars. But it's like I like J White

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obviously as a single star. I
like Juice Robinson, but give me more

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of those two guys wrestling as a
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good. So highly recommend AW Collision
and dare I said, if you had

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to vote an AW show off the
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which has improved, and then probably
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at least a month in. I
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Rampage three for AW related programming.
So highly recommend again one of my biggest

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takeaways different field than Dynamite, which
which is a good thing. We don't

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get that a lot in wrestling when
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week, as we see on WWE
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here while we discuss AW doctor Trey, I have a tip of the

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cap. We are known to point
out creative when it's really bad. We

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are not praised when we Uh,
Sirie wants to talk right now. I

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guess Sirie thought I was talking to
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do acknowledge creative on social media.
We are told that we are haters of

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AW at times that we don't support
the company. All this stuff. Well,

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when it's bad, we pointed out, and when it's good, I'm

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gonna point it out too, which
I'm gonna point out here on this week's

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This Show. I have felt like
lately doctor Trey would love to know your

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thoughts, but my tip of the
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I feel like it has been really
really good lately. Yeah, I mean,

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I can't knock him, by the
way, anybody who calls us a

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hater in twenty twenty three, I
can't think their opinion seriously for using the

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word hater still and not reputing Jamie
Hayter. But like overall, like you

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look to the stuff like the Jericho
don Kalus stuff like that's been entered,

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that's that's been good. The stuff
with Hangman Page in the Dark Order in

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the Bucks like that's been good.
Um, you know, the stuff with

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Callus and Obega has been good,
like and then you over Collision FTR Bullet

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Club Goal has been good. Like
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going on. Some of the acclaimed
in House of Blacks, you know,

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been interesting, So Jungle Boy Turning
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creative has been pretty solid over the
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other than not finding something for CM

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punk. Tell the m J Adam
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know, but outside out funding for
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solid all across the board. Well, perfect segue here. So I have

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a couple of things that I want
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been great for a w creative so
far. Let's start with the one that

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you just mentioned, mjf Adam Cole
storyline. It started with them hating each

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other, having that great match on
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which I'll talk about here momentarily as
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budding friendship. One of the things
it's it's like the easiest thing in the

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world to at least do to me
as a wrestling fan. I don't know

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how you feel about this, Doctor
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make me happy as a wrestling fan, you develop a stable. That's always

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simple. And then the second one
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tag team and it makes always phenomenal
odd couple pairing entertainment. We've seen it

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obviously with teamhell Now in the past, and we're kind of seeing it right

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now. Not to the team Heell
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but this storyline has been very,
very good with mj and Adam Cole.

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I do have one drawback, but
I just want to say on the onset

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here very positively. The MJF Adam
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to watch each week on aw Television. Yeah, and it's also allowed them

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to kind of get Britt Baker away
from Adam Cole, which was fine with

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the Jericho stuff, but you know, let Britt be the focal point of

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your wizard vision. So no,
it's it's been very entertaining. And the

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weird thing is to me is like
it's not even really an odd pairing because

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when they're heels, they're very similar, Like they're both cocky air and heels,

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So it's just that one's a baby
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now, So it is kind of
a weird pairing. And you know,

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you know, outside of Adam called
being a gamer, if you had said,

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you know what, these two get
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because their personalities are actually pretty similar
overall. So but it's been really really

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fun and entertaining to watch. Like
the the episode where m JF had was

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playing video games like that, I
was cracking up. So h yeah,

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like you said, like, it's
been really really good. So here's my

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drawback. This is reminiscent of MJF
about ten months ago when he returned at

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all out from his you know,
time away after double or Nothing, and

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they started after the whole punk stuff, elite stuff happened, they had to

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go in a different direction with the
firm with m JF, and they started

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teasing m JF the baby face and
he was getting over. He was saying

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devil worshipers, he's high five in
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He's being a goofy like corny baby
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where they kept him as a heel
and the way back to that swarmy,

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chicken shit heel that people fell in
love with after he won the aw World

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championship from John Moxley at full Gear
last year. They're doing that again now

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where he's like this corny, nerdy
babyface and he wasn't. He's not that

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like cool, cocky chicken shit heel
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down that path right now. And
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and how well things have been going, the vibe that I'm having is that

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this still leads to MJF versus Adam
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they decided to do it during that
week with the two big shows going on,

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and then MJF gets back to being
that chicken shit heel, that would

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be my drawback right now. I
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that MJF and Adam Cole become best
friends and they run together and they turn

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MGF BA be facing. I could
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that there's this very similar rinse wash
repeat booking that they do with MJF that's

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kind of making him stale, and
that is one of my main concerns with

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this current storyline right now. Yeah, and that's kind of the path I

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saw them going down too, So
it's like I'm kind of taking the MJF

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Adam Cole stuff just kind of week
to week and not worrying about the long

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term right now and just kind of
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yeah, if they go to the
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yeah, it's gonna be a little
bit like like you said, the

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wash Rinse repeat. The flip side
is you could do a double turn and

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make Cole the heel at MJF the
baby face, and at least that would

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get people like us like going,
oh my god, they pulled this off,

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because don't forget, he's got Roderick
Strong and he's got Kyle O'Reilly as

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well. You could turn them heel
and then MJF goes baby face and then

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you got a brand new top star
baby face to sell merchandise and can get

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people to follow. And that's what
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see outside the box. I don't
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is going to be happening. I
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Other great aw creative. Lately,
the Jericho, Don Callis JS future

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storyline has been a lot of fun. Jack Perry and Hook storyline has been

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very good. Jungle Boy was getting
very stale. He's been great as a

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heel lately. I've really enjoyed the
Blind Eliminator tournament because it's you know,

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odd pairing's odd couples that are taken
it on and it gives a showcase of

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the tag team division. Both Owen
Heart tournaments have been really great. Very

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happy for Willow Nightingale, Very happy
for Ricky Starks even though it looks like

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it's going to be heel turn.
That was really good. But then Darby

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Allen Stort of Strickland Nick Wayne's storyline
it appears to be going in a really

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fun direction as well. So those
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now. From a creative standpoint,
I know I went through a big list.

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I don't know if there's anything that
you think it may be missing or

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some things that you want to add
to the list of creative that has been

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that I just highlighted. But you
know, we talked really bad about the

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last twelve to eighteen months of AW
creative after the creative was really good since

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the debut until after All Out two
twenty one. But right now, I

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feel like the AW creative has been
some of the best it's been in a

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long time. And of those were
some of the things that I wanted to

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give a tip of the cap two
here specifically when it comes to AW creative

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lately. Yeah, and even Blackpool
Combat and the Elite has been really good

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at it. You know, you
tie in the Dark Order stuff with that

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and Page you know, the return
of Poc, the return well the debut

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of Coda Abushe. You know,
we're recording this show, but you know,

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before Blood and Guts, we don't
even know how that play is out

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yet. But you know, that's
great. You know, like you mentioned

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earlier, FTR Bullet Color Goal,
like that's been really good. Orange Cassidys

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run of Title Defenses have been really
good, and so yeah, there's really

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not a whole lot to knock on
AW creative right now. So they've just

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been doing a fantastic job. Yeah, Lucasaurus and Christian with the TNT Championship

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has been really good. Um,
the QTV, which, out of everything

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they do creatively in AW, I
find to be the most corny. But

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there's stuff with um the acclaimed has
been very fun. Um. I loved

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the what is is it Hailey Quinn? I believe so yeah, I can't.

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I know she dates Zion Quinn in
real life. I don't know if

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that's if that's so real, I
forget now if that's the name. But

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her stuff with Anthony Bowens, like
that thing where it was like I know

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you want me and will make a
great couple and Anthony Bones being like,

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um, I'm gay was a really
really fun moment in Wrestlings and also very

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historic by the way. Um,
but there's it's tough to find anything really

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bad with AW Creative right now,
Doctor Trey. It's it's been, and

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it's been great. We've heard a
lot about the additions that they've made to

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Creative, whether it be Brian Danielson, whether it be guys like I believe

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Chris hero Is in the fold.
We're hearing that seem Punk Decks, Hardwood

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are helping out with Creative when it
comes to collision, this could be the

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renaissance that we've wanted to see from
AW for some time, Doctor Trey.

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00:29:22.119 --> 00:29:26.960
With the way the creatives going presently
funny, this was our hope all along

396
00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:30.440
that with this much talent, I
mean, you can do storylines across the

397
00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:36.680
board and hook everybody because you know, some people are just diehard Darby Allen

398
00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:38.440
fans, some people are Seeing Punk
fans, some are Kenny Obga fans.

399
00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:42.119
You know, some are Mirro fans. I mean, it's across the board,

400
00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:47.319
like everybody's got their favorite. So
if you can do you know,

401
00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:51.799
actually we've a story. You can
do it throughout the entire car where it's

402
00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:53.960
the bottom of the car with you
know, the you know, the QT

403
00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:57.160
Marshals of the world, all the
way up through the mid card into the

404
00:29:57.279 --> 00:30:00.400
main event area. You know,
like I said, my only knock was

405
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:03.720
the fact that, you know him, they didn't have a plan for what

406
00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:08.200
to do with CM Punk other than
help him get other people over by,

407
00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:11.880
you know, doing the rubber or
whatever. But outside of that, like

408
00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:15.559
it just feels like everybody's involved in
something right now, which is a really

409
00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:19.119
good thing when your entire roster feels
like they're invested in their in their programs.

410
00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:23.079
So what's the one thing that's making
you watch aw programming? What's the

411
00:30:23.160 --> 00:30:27.599
one storyline, creative thing that you're
watching that you enjoy each and every week

412
00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:33.680
right now, they f JF Adam
Cole stuff like they're they're just really really

413
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:37.599
entertaining personalities on top of being good
wrestlers. So um, it's and really

414
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:41.079
it's it's just been it's been mostly
Adam Cole since he came back, you

415
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:45.920
know, the stuff with Jericho.
The stuff now with MJF just is fun

416
00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:48.720
and refreshing. And you know,
I forgot. I mean, Adam Cole

417
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:52.119
basically was a heel his entire running
MXC. It's just okay, cool,

418
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:56.480
this is a little bit different side
of Adam Cole that we haven't seen in

419
00:30:56.640 --> 00:31:00.440
recent memory. Yeah, no,
it's it's probably my favorite as well.

420
00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:04.920
One of my favorite subtle moments still
from this entire thing was when Tony Hivanni

421
00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:10.079
announced that they were doing the Blind
Liminator tournament and they were going to be

422
00:31:10.119 --> 00:31:12.559
paired together, and MJF said,
you want me to wrestle each week?

423
00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:18.599
What are you kind of some sort
of sick pervert? Very subtle. I

424
00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:21.240
love that line and it was hilarious. But I agree with you. I

425
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:26.039
think the MJF Adam Cole stuff has
been great. I've enjoyed Elite Blackpool Combat

426
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:29.759
Club and the Jericho Don Calli stuff
has me really intrigued as well. So

427
00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:33.519
everything's been great, it really has. So I hope this is the beginning,

428
00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:37.920
Doctor Trey, and not something that
a month from now we look back

429
00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:38.880
and go, hey, remember when
you and I sat down and talked about

430
00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:44.160
how good a Tow Creative was,
And now it's not that all just crashes

431
00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:48.079
after all it and all out.
That's that's the expectation. Yes, yeah,

432
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:52.319
I mean I guess if there's room
for improvement. As always, it's

433
00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:59.200
the women's division stuff. Yeah,
I like the outcasts, but you know,

434
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:04.279
less we're going to see Willow start
to get into that women's title picture.

435
00:32:04.319 --> 00:32:07.079
I mean, what have they done
with the TBS championship lately as well

436
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:12.799
with Christa Langler And then you also
have Atheno with the Ring of Honor with

437
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:15.640
his championship, and it's like she's
almost forgotten about in Ring of Honor.

438
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:20.119
You know, It's like and she
was. I mean, she's brutal right

439
00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:23.240
now, Like I want to see
her more on AWTV than some of the

440
00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:27.839
people they've been showcasing. But you
know, beggars can't be choosers, and

441
00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:30.480
they're trying to like Wind all this
stuff up and then we're still waiting the

442
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:32.160
return of Jade Cargill here at some
point as well and see what they do

443
00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:36.720
with her. Yeah, there's been
some reports either that she's not due back

444
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:40.599
in wrestling at all for some time
and that maybe she's going after Hollywood,

445
00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:44.559
but it could also be a swerve
as well Doctor Trey as we know,

446
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:49.720
so maybe she's just taking some time
off after her first real two year run

447
00:32:49.799 --> 00:32:52.559
in professional wrestling. So a lot
of great stuff with AW creative lately,

448
00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:58.200
lots of positivity going around All EAT
Wrestling right now as they head into the

449
00:32:58.279 --> 00:33:02.440
biggest show they've ever done with ALL
in Wembley Stadium in London. You know

450
00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:07.720
that's about six weeks away. And
when you have good creative right now heading

451
00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:13.720
into the biggest show you've ever done, that's a good thing. So AW

452
00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:16.279
has been a lot of fun to
watch over the last month they've been.

453
00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:21.359
It's been building in this direction in
some time over the last couple months,

454
00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:25.359
and I'm happy to see them turning
it around and getting back to doing what

455
00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:30.079
they do best, which is good
creative, great in ring work, and

456
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:31.920
a lot of fun and entertainment on
television. Each and every week. So

457
00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:37.640
to everybody who thinks that we don't
like aw listen back to the last thirty

458
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:42.160
three minutes of this show, and
I don't know, go after yourself.

459
00:33:42.599 --> 00:33:45.880
So that is the more you know
here on this week's edition of SRTU.

460
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:53.920
Speaking of good creative as well,
Doctor Trey, the bloodline storyline that's been

461
00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:58.559
going on for the last three years
have been some of the best professional wrestling

462
00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:04.880
storylines creative that we've seen ever.
On July seventh edition of SmackDown from Madison

463
00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:09.440
Square Garden in New York City,
the first thirty five minutes of the show

464
00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:17.199
was about the tribal court that took
place, and there was obviously some controversy

465
00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:22.960
about that segment because it ran thirty
five minutes for two hours show, which

466
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:28.079
then led to a lot of things
being either cut or their segments being cut

467
00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:31.199
down, and you could tell that
vibe throughout the rest of the show for

468
00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:37.039
the most part. But all in
all, I don't know if you watched

469
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:38.639
the full segment, Doctor Trey.
I did. I watched it live.

470
00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:43.000
I really enjoyed it. I thought
it was a great segment. It also

471
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:45.280
made a little bit of history,
which we'll touch upon here in just a

472
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:50.760
second, but it is over ten
to eleven, twelve days removed from taking

473
00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:53.199
place. What was your thought on
that tribal court segment that ran pretty long

474
00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:58.800
on SmackDown back on seventh Yeah,
I didn't even realize it ran that long.

475
00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:01.280
That's because I was just I was
just in tune with it, like

476
00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:07.119
I was kind of I was watching
with bated breadth, just wait to see

477
00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:09.599
what was going to happen. So
I thought it was a fantastic segment.

478
00:35:09.679 --> 00:35:14.320
And then in retrospect I see how
long it ran. I'm like, yeah,

479
00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:16.400
they probably could have shaved a few
minutes here and there. But when

480
00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:20.639
something's good and your audience has invested, you just run with it. And

481
00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:23.000
you know, of all the storylines
that have come through ww RED in the

482
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:27.199
last few years, this has been
the most enthralling storyline they've had. So,

483
00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:31.480
you know, you don't just sacrifice
something like that for the sake of

484
00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:35.480
a women's match or you know,
a mid card match. He's to go,

485
00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:37.840
Okay, we just had to adjust
in them fly here guys, because

486
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:43.360
the main event guys just showed why
their main event guys. Yeah, yeah,

487
00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:47.079
I mean it was a great segment. Historical segment, and according to

488
00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:53.519
the Wrestling Observer newsletter, it appears
that that segment and that edition of SmackDown,

489
00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:57.960
it appears to be the first time
a pro wrestling show has ever been

490
00:35:58.039 --> 00:36:02.119
the top English language show of the
week on all television. So Wrestling Observer

491
00:36:02.239 --> 00:36:07.519
newsletter is reporting that in the key
demo of adults age eighteen to forty nine,

492
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:12.559
SmackDown average a zero point six rating
and nine hundred and eighty six thousand

493
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:15.840
viewers. Show peaked in the second
quarter hour the back half of Tribal courts

494
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:22.519
by averaging three million, seventy thousand
viewers overall and one million, two hundred

495
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:25.960
and twenty three thousand viewers in eighteen
to forty nine for a zero point nine

496
00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:31.400
for rating, described as the quote
largest number for a SmackDown quarter in several

497
00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:37.119
years. For the initiated, the
ratings are there to be the metric by

498
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:39.320
which ad rates are set, so
since younger viewers are believed to have more

499
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:44.760
buying power and less brand loyalty,
the eighteen to forty nine demographic has become

500
00:36:44.840 --> 00:36:46.559
the main one tracked by the TV
industry. We've talked about that here many

501
00:36:46.679 --> 00:36:52.480
times, especially with aw SO according
to Wrestling Observer newsletters. As we're rating

502
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:58.119
from also wrestling in dot Com.
The only other time a wrestling show could

503
00:36:58.159 --> 00:37:04.639
have conceivably ranked across all television for
a given week was during the initial pro

504
00:37:04.760 --> 00:37:08.079
wrestling TV boom in the early nineteen
fifties, where there was at least one

505
00:37:08.199 --> 00:37:14.480
season where one of the network wrestling
shows came in tenth place. Wrestling shows

506
00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:16.480
have topped the cable ratings pretty much
as long as the cable ratings have been

507
00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:20.559
a thing, and regional wrestling shows
have been the top show on their local

508
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:25.199
march markets, most Family in Memphis, Tennessee. But even the high water

509
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:30.239
marked for viewership of a wrestling show, the February nineteen eighty eight Main Event

510
00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:34.159
special airing Primetime with a Hull,
Cooke and versus Andre the Giant main Event,

511
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:39.039
averaging thirty three million viewers, place
that week thirty second for the week

512
00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:46.480
in television, So according to reports, this was the number one ranked thing

513
00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:54.119
for English speaking television across all platforms. Doctor Trey the Tribal Court edition of

514
00:37:54.239 --> 00:37:59.440
SmackDown on July seventh. That is
some history, my friend. That is

515
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:02.760
that's insane, especially when you think, yeah, you mentioned the stuff with

516
00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:07.639
Hogan and Andrea on Saturdaynight's main event. Also, like you know, the

517
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:10.920
nitro after Hogan was revealed as the
third man. You know, it was

518
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:15.440
a huge was a huge ratings thing, the stuff, and then just all

519
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:17.480
that stuff during the Monday night Wars. I mean, those ratings numbers were

520
00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:22.440
super high on both sides, and
none of those shows, you know,

521
00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:27.960
match even Tyson Austin didn't match this, So like that's that's pretty staggering.

522
00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:32.079
But it also shows the change in
how people view television nowadays as well,

523
00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:37.960
that there is no real big networks
that everybody have to watch like back in

524
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:43.239
the days of just NBCCBS, ABC
and thoughts. That's not the way it

525
00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:45.760
works now because hell, like I
have Hulu Live and I very seldom watch

526
00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:52.280
anything on Life TV. I'm usually
streaming something from somewhere because there's nothing on

527
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:54.960
TV that really appeals to me right
now. And when you go back to

528
00:38:55.079 --> 00:39:00.199
that segment, Doctor Trey, We'll
have to give it a little bit of

529
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:06.159
time. There's a lot of historical
segments that have taken place on wrestling television.

530
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:12.719
Row SmackDown, A, w Impact, Wrestling, Superstars, w f

531
00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:16.239
Mania, what have you over the
years and some that stick out to me

532
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:19.960
as always, this is your life, Rock. But I mean, you

533
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:24.639
go back to that segment of the
Tribal Court for the Tribal Chief Roman Reigns,

534
00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:30.000
that had a lot of twist and
turns, a lot of different elements,

535
00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:32.159
and even though it ran thirty to
thirty five minutes, like you said,

536
00:39:32.199 --> 00:39:42.239
Doctor Trey, it did not disappoint
at all. It was a phenomenal,

537
00:39:43.079 --> 00:39:47.079
phenomenal segment. It was, it
was great. I don't know if

538
00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:52.280
we look back at it as the
most historical or reminiscent segment of our times.

539
00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:57.559
I think Steve Austin and Mike Tyson
when Steve Auston interrupted Mike Tyson and

540
00:39:57.639 --> 00:40:02.159
they pushed and had to be separated
as a very um memorable segment. The

541
00:40:02.280 --> 00:40:07.880
beer Truck is a memorable segment.
I remember Steve Austin losing the Old Stone

542
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:15.159
cold and this is when they were
fighting with them the Alliance heading into the

543
00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:17.920
invasion pay per view, and he
came back and stunned everybody. That was

544
00:40:17.960 --> 00:40:22.840
a great segment to save WWF.
But I mean, I don't know,

545
00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:25.480
I don't know where there's ranks historically
right now. I think it's still too

546
00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:29.719
early to tell, but from some
of the modern era stuff, this is

547
00:40:30.360 --> 00:40:34.599
there's some of the best stuff we've
seen on WE television. Yeah, no,

548
00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:37.000
without a doubt. I mean,
you have three years of story I

549
00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:40.679
mean, this is reminiscent of whether
you do with like The Horseman and Dusty

550
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:45.639
or The Horsemen and Sting, where
it'd be you know, years of storytelling

551
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:51.280
and they move people in and out
of it seamlessly and transition it. But

552
00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:54.079
it was always basically the same kind
of core. And this is where right

553
00:40:54.119 --> 00:40:59.280
now with the Bloodline stuff, where
yeah, you're able you're able to run

554
00:40:59.360 --> 00:41:02.239
Samy's through their tie in, Kevin
Owens, you know, bring Solo in,

555
00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:07.400
you know, tie some other stuff. So it's just been seamless the

556
00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:10.480
way they've been able to manage this
over over the past three years. Yeah,

557
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:14.880
it's been phenomenal stuff. Some of
the best creative and I think overall,

558
00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:17.360
Doctor tre I mean, when we
look back at everything going on,

559
00:41:17.480 --> 00:41:22.000
whether it b W or AW,
the fact that creative has been so good

560
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:29.400
for the two prominent organizations wrestling promotions
in the United States is great. I

561
00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:32.760
mean it's I don't know if they're
saying there's a wrestling boom right now,

562
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:37.360
but it feels like as a long
time wrestling fan, creatively this is this

563
00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:42.480
has been a really fun time to
watch as a wrestling fan. It's been

564
00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:46.199
a very fun time to cover as
a wrestling podcaster. Oh yeah, and

565
00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:52.280
even even NXT with you know the
guys coming in with Baron Corbyn showing up,

566
00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:55.440
Dominic Mysterio is going to be on
NXT Challenge for the North American Heavyweight

567
00:41:55.519 --> 00:42:00.760
Championship. Seeing some of those guys
show up and highlight those people there like

568
00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:04.400
that. Creative been really good as
well. Yeah, everything's been great,

569
00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:07.199
It really has been, and it's
it's very nitpicky right now when you go

570
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:09.119
when you say, well, you
know, I don't know about this,

571
00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:13.760
like with the MGF a Adam Cole
storyline or what they're doing with CM punk

572
00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:16.360
right now. It's kind of nitpicky
because everything has been so good and we're

573
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:20.000
so used to it. But the
way things are going right now, I

574
00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:22.480
mean, it's just been been great. And when you look back at everything

575
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:27.960
that we've talked about here on the
show, overall, creative is popping right

576
00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:30.960
now and I hope it stays that
way. We're heading in the SummerSlam head

577
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:32.599
and all in, head in and
all out. We wanted to continue with

578
00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:37.360
some of the biggest shows of the
summer rate around the corner. So with

579
00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:40.719
that set, let's get a couple
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580
00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:45.159
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583
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then three weeks will be recap and reviewing

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SummerSlam, and then we get ready
for aw all in and all out towards

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the end of August. It'll be
here before you know it. The summer

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months for professional wrestling is staying red
hot. There is no downtime and professional

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wrestling, and thank you for making
us part of your wrestling coverage each and

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every week. So until next week. For doctor Trey Franklin, I'm Jeff

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Pack. Thank you for tuning in. This is the story shot better didn't didn't