Is Rock/Roman vs. Rhodes/Rollins Overshadowing WM 40? | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #736 – 3/21/24

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It's still welcome, everybody. Welcome
to this week's edition The Story Real To

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Show, episode number seven and thirty
six from March twenty first, twenty twenty

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four. Welcome to this week's edition
of ass RT for you. I am

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one after the show, I am
Jeff Packer, joined as always to my

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host, the Only Doctor Try Franklin, Doctor Trey. It's less than two

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weeks away from now, my friend. Uh, yes, the NFL Draft

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is right. No, the NFL
drafts park are out. Oh yeah,

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we're right. We're on the road
to wrestle media. It's a yellow brick

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road full of poppy and puppies and
all those good things. So it's getting

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close. I'm just I have a
question for you. I bet to ask

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you this. I heard that if
you're not a heel, you're just an

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a hole. Is that a bad
thing nowadays? I don't. I don't

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think so at all. I mean, to get those booze, you have

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to be an a hole. Yeah, I think that's basically like like I

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tell you all the time, like
I'm I'm kind of an a hole.

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So you either love me or you
hate me. So that I just didn't

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know that was a bad thing,
So I just wanted to clarify usually being

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mister goody two shoes is a bad
thing. Yeah, speaking of the road

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to WrestleMania forty, a ton of
focus on the Cody Road, Sethron's Roman

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Reigns Rock tag team match that will
headline reportedly headline WrestleMania sat. I'd be

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shocked if it doesn't, as this
has progressed Doctor Trey and even pre and

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then once it was formally announced as
taking place and now post, all I

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can think about was the amount of
shine and time and focus this tag team

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match has been heading arrest of Matty
forty and I simply ask has this tag

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team match actually taken away from the
two world title matches? I would I

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would think, yeah, a little
bit. And you saw a little bit

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of that of then trying to compensate
for that on Monday Night with the seth

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Rawlins Drew McIntyre segment. But you
know, I asked you, you know,

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we talked about a couple weeks ago. I kind of felt like Roman

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Rains has I'd have been lost in
the shuffle of this a little bit,

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Like it kind of feels like Cody
and the Rock and Seth and Roman are

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a part of it, but the
focus seems to be on Cody and the

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Rock right now, so it does
feel like the tag match is overshadowing everything

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else, and I think that's why
ww's trying to compensate and and put some

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light on the world title matches for
Sunday Night. It's it's a really interesting

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dichotomy that they're in right now as
I watch it, because at times you

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like almost forget okay, this tag
team match is supposed to fill feed into

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the Road's Rains match for WrestleMania Sunday, but it is really taking a little

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way to a little wait, a
little amount of shine away from Drew McIntyre

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and Seth Rollins heading into WRESTLEMANI forty, And they're playing it off on the

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screen as such, and I don't
know if it's in a good storyline spot

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when it comes to Rollins and Drew
McIntyre or if it's legitimately taking away shine

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from that match right now, Doctor
True, which is which is kind of

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scary. It's reminiscent to me a
little bit of was it WrestleMania? See

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Where was It? Thirty twenty nine? Miz and Sena and the Rock twenty

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seven, twenty seven, twenty seven, You're you're the history when it comes

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to actual resumated numbers. But that
whole thing felt like it was about the

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Rock in John Cena and the Miz
was the world champion heading into that match.

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That's a great comparison, by the
way, and Men's was completely overshadowed,

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and he did one of the greatest
promos of all times when the Men's

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came out dresses the raw heye had
the sprays and the ball cap, you

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know, everything else to fit and
it. But he felt like the afterthoughts

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in that story for that match,
And that's where I'm at now, where

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it feels like Seth and Roman,
who are your two world champions heading into

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WrestleMania, are kind of the afterthoughts
of this because it does feel like Cody

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and Rock are overshadowing anybody or both
of those guys, and who would have

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thought and in a WrestleMania season,
our world champion, who's coming up in

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almost four years as world champion and
probably the most dominant champion of our lifetime,

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is overshadowed by his cousin. Right
now, I feel like ww W

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is playing the hot hand, and
I cannot blame them for this, and

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the hot Hand is right now that
the tension between Cody and the Rock is

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much more entertaining and engaging for their
audience than anything else that we're seeing involved

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in that storyline right now, which
again is scary. But I credit to

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WWE for playing the hot hand.
But it's like, wait a minute,

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this tag match is still supposed to
feed into rains and roads too, And

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oh, by the way, there's
another World Championship match that Drew McIntyre won

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the elimination Chamber match to get that
spot, and he's not even a focal

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point in this right now. I
mean, it's like insane to see at

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WrestleMania that two men's world title matches
are playing not even like one B,

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one C. They are playing number
two, number three to a tag team

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match that feeds into one of the
title matches. It's it's insane to get

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your head around this. Yeah,
I mean, hell, the stipulation in

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the tag match directly affects the world
title match the next night. And can

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I stop you right there real fast? Sorry, doctor Trey. Do you

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think that maybe they should have somehow
added some sort of stipulation for the Drew

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Rollins match into this one as well
to bring in her interest into it.

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See I I was gonna mention this, and to me, I almost feel

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like this is I think you said
will not one being once even two and

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three. I feel like three here
is because of the potential cash in of

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Damian Priest. Yeah, something more
is going on. So I think that

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I don't want to say it's it's
it's weak booking, but I think if

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that's the plan for the night,
then it's it's being taken. Like I

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guess, I don't know, it's
already got enough complications to it to add

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in their stipulation into it. But
I mean if they come out like I

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mean, Drew doesn't like the blood
lines opposed either, So I don't know

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what sipulation you could have in a
bloodline match to then that Drew would agree

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to to feed into that, because
then Drew would have to affiliate himself,

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you know, characterized with the bloodline, which you can't stand. So I'm

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okay with it not having it.
But you know, to me, I

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think it's just them going, hey, well, if we're playing on doing

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this whole Damian cash in, then
we probably will need Drew to be the

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baby face coming out of it,
and if he aligns himself with the Bloodline,

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he's more heel instead of his tweeter
character he's been working with. And

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I think that's why they've kind of
set that one up this way. So

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that leads me to the next thing
I wanted to bring up on this week's

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This to the podcast is how would
you book this tag team match? While

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thinking of the world title matches WrestleMania. I've been really again trying to get

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my hat around this since they started
teasing this, how they and then once

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it was becoming official and they built
up towards that, all I could think

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of was in my mind rang Now, I feel like Rock Costs reigns the

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tag team match so that Rhodes has
Bloodline free, and we've seen Rock turned

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babyface in that match, Rhodes Rolins
win, But then the next night do

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you do Rhodes winning the championship and
then Rollin's losing the championship to Drew McIntyre,

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Because then that makes sense for then
Rollins to somewhere down the line,

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Let's say Rollins goes away for a
little bit licks his wounds and recovers from

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some of these injuries he's been dealing
with. Does he come back as a

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heel and blame Cody for losing the
championship, And then you've got that layer

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that you just mentioned, Doctor Trey. Is the vibe right now is that

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a Damian Priest cash in is potentially
taking place at WrestleMania, and it would

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be over Drew McIntyre, would lead
into that storyline of Drew McIntyre who comes

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out as the baby face in that
is anybody's guest in all honesty, because

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it could go either way because Drew
finally gets his moment at WrestleMania that he

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didn't get from wrestle MANI thirty six
because of the pandemic four years later,

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and then that's stolen from him by
Damian Priest. There are so many different

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layers here, and I don't know
if it's a good thing. I think

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it's a good thing. I think
as I talk it out loud, I'll

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say it's a good thing because you
don't want it to be predictable. But

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there's a lot of layers to this
tag team match that feeds into the next

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night of WrestleMania that if let's say
Rhodes wins, Rollins doesn't, well,

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if I'm Rollins, I'm pissed off. Maybe I you know, unloaded the

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tank a little bit. If they
both lose, why do they wrestle on

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Saturday? But if they both win, then it makes sense. Do you

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get my thoughts on this? Yeah? I mean, and you could easily

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have Seth win and Damien still catch
in on him, and then Drew Blaine

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and Damien were taking the spotlight that
we saw there. So I mean there's

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different layers on it because I could
see you know, Cody and Seth winning

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the tag match, and like you
said, Rock blames and blames Rock for

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his loss to come back on SmackDown
or wherever they both come back on TV.

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I'm saying Rock costs him the match. I think there's a turn at

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WrestleMania. See, I think that
you could have Rock take the loss and

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then Roman's like you you know,
you you know you losing? Yo?

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Met me know, made me have
this stipulation the way it was. I

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I you know, because if if
if Cody wins intenally, Rock can't be

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a reside. Rock can't come out
because then the blood line does get it.

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Well, what if he leaves the
bloodline that night? Right there?

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Is there a membership card or something, you get a discount of David Busters.

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I believe so. But like to
me, at some point, you're

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gonna have to get back to Seth
and Cody, because right now, Cody's

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three to zero against Seth. You
know, we talked about that when you

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know Cody gave a spot to the
Rock initially and that we thought Cody's are

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going through Seth. Well, like
Cody's got three wins over set at some

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point, Seth's gonna have to try
to get one victory over Cody at some

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point. But how could you say
that? You know, if I hadn't

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taken this match, I could have
been Drew mcatire when he's the one who

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accepted the match. It was Seth
who accepted the tag match. So yeah,

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the one thing I love about this
is that there's so many layers to

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it that we don't you know,
we have our ideas on how the shows

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going to go out, but we
don't know the storyline path they're going to

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take coming out of it. Because
the other thing I thought about was,

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let's say Cody wins and Roman goes
away for a little bit, Rock goes

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away fort well, who wants SmackDown? Do you have ready to step up

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to challenge Cody to make compelling television? Is it solo? Is it Jimmy?

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If Jimmy loses the Jay, is
it solo? Then that Solo's the

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most logical number one contender because I
don't know, really have they built any

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other strong challengers up on the heel
side to challenge a potential Cody Rhodes world

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champion? So so low, Yeah, this is it's about. It's solo,

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and he's actually solo in is Roy
he might be the only one who

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the fans would go, that's incredible
threats. I would even say that maybe

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depending on the direction at Wrestlemanian Post, maybe in a heel AJ styles starts

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to build up a little bit as
well. But I think if that's the

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case, I think how the show
lays out when you have the AJ match

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and you have them come up like
you know, even I know they're doing

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the Final Testament and the Prime Match
at some point during the WrestleMania weekend at

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somewhere there, whether it's Friday,
Saturday or Sunday, you know, is

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it a Carrion Cross, is it
somebody else? I think as you're watching

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the show, the booking of the
heels might tell you who the next inline

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guy is, because don't forget we
still got Randy or that triple threat match

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at Orton Olwen's logo. Paul,
one of those guys is not going to

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win. And obviously you could do
Ko and a Ko Heel turny at some

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point if you wanted to, But
that's like the big show at this point.

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Yeah, I know, but it
does Logan Paul step up as your

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next logical World Champion challenger if he
loses the US title. I mean,

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Waller and Theory aren't ready yet,
so that basically leaves AJ. Basically your

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your options are AJ, Logan Paul
or Theory and Waller and Carrion Cross as

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the next guys step up. If
you're doing if you want to, you

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know, start building your next challenger
to a potential Cody Rose World Championship.

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Run back to the tag team match
and the way that you would book the

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world title matches. We have one, two, three, four, five

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shows left bron Smackdowns combined before WRESTMANI
forty takes place starting on Saturday, April

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sixth. At some point, do
you have some sort of segment where Drew

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McIntyre and the Bloodline interact with one
another, at least of Paul Hayman Drew

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McIntyre segment, especially if the Bloodline, if they have to make a contingency

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plan just because because this is where
Paul Hayman is really good, Because Paul

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Hayman could approach McIntire and basically look
like worst case scenario Roman and Rock lose.

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I need a plan be to keep
the belts on Roman, you know,

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could you be the plan be?
Because and I was thinking about what

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we're talking. One thing that I
used to love about the time of the

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year was usually the draft would happen
us around the NFL Draft. At one

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point when we were growing up,
this would be a great time because if

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Cody wins, you could draft Drew
to SmackDown, and then Seth can still

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win, and Damian cash in on
Seth and then you got Damien's Seth and

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you can do Drew and Cody.
But we haven't heard anything about the draft

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or anything like that. So I
would at least plug in a segment where

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Hayman's kind of slyly recruiting somebody else
just as a play and b in case

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the case Rocket are on the lose, because then you can still have the

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potential for somebody to get involved in
that match to help romanout. And for

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all intensive purposes, how great would
be if Drew wins loses the Belt of

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Damien on the cash head. Drew
comes out during Cody and Rock or excuse

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me, Cody and Roman and actually
Claymore's Roman and then Cody that allows could

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get away. So that way Drew
still gets a little bit of shine from

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the crowd for helping Cody, you're
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night. I think if Rhodes is
winning the title, and we talked about

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this a couple of weeks back with
the Rock and Cody's stuff. Initially I

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think if Rhodes wins the title,
it has to be clean. Yeah,

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I think for all intensive purposes it
does too. But you know, if

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you see that Drew Hayman interaction and
then let's say, for some reason it

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looks like something is going to come
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See I was thinking more along the
lines of that he needs to be

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intersected, intertwined into this at some
point so that people don't forget like hey,

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by the way, seth Rawlins is
defending his World of aweight championship against

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Drew Mcatarre the next night, and
Drew has been one of the best characters

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since late summer of last year,
like legitimately one of the best, very

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entertaining, great entering worker, really
good promos, great character development, and

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he deserves that shine. I think
that's always the problem people have when Rock

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comes back, especially, is that
people take a back seat because of his

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shine. And it's you know,
whether you hear the reports over the weekend

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last weekend that people were complaining internally
in w about his promos, He's allowed

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to curse and all that stuff.
Listen, guys and girls, I appreciate

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and love and adore you that you
do three sixty five twenty four to seven

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WWE, and Rock only comes in
for a couple of weeks, a couple

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months, helps build up the biggest
show, gets a lot of shine,

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gets a huge payday, board of
directors, all that stuff. At the

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end of the day, the Rock
is one of the most recognizable people in

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the world, not the United States, the world. The other night,

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I was at my family's house.
We were enjoying some corn, beef and

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cabbage for Saint Patrick's Day. I
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and Rock was the opening segment,
and my parents, who were they were

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like, what is the Rock doing
back in WWWA Does he need money?

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And I was like, no,
not at all. But they knew right

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away, like who that was and
what he's it does and what he's accomplished

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very recognizable. I mean, that's
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the day, and I think some
of that shine from the Rock For these

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next five shows, they gotta use
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divvy it up a little bit better
towards Roads and Rains, which I know

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that that is equally, you know, very easily tied to, but also

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Rollin's and Big Drew. It's you
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my friends. I love the idea
that you pitch their Doctor Trey have Big

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Drew in the back stage area talking
to Paul Hayman. Paul Hayman confronts him,

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you know, says you need Roman
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see that Drew is going through that
that inner demons, the inner feelings that

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he has of issues of aligning with
the bloodline or not. And that's,

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you know, something that is compelling
to see on television. I just feel

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like they need to do something before
we get to wrestle Anty forty. And

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maybe it's just Hayman pitching him to
get involved in the tag match. You

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know, hey, if you help
out Roman and Rock if we need it,

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I am. That's very simple and
softens up seth for you on night

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too, even though you know Drew's
saying, look, I need you there

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if I got to carry your ass
down to the ring. You know we're

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having you know, whatever it is, we're having that match. I mean

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Drew's Drew's on that tweeer kick right
now where he's like, I have to

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beat you. But if you see
that backstage segment that could once again create

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so many branchings and anything else.
One other thing, requick I saw somebody

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I came up for his melt or
of somebody else talking about l A.

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Knight And for a lot of people, like like we talked about the show

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that a lot of people say the
LA Knights had like a cross version of

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Austin and Rock. You know,
his promos are rockesque in a way.

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But then I saw all the people
like complaining that when La Knight cuts a

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promo the same night that Rock does
his stuff, he does look like a

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poor imitation. Did you feel that
way watching SmackDown? No, No,

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I don't. I've never I'm not
on the same level as a lot of

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other fans are when it comes to
the hype around La Knight because I think

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I'm an old head that saw this
same come up. It's in the late

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nineties of Austin and Rock, and
I can understand the comparisons there, and

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there's a heavy influence for both those
guys in his character. And plus I

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remember him on TNA Impact Wrestling as
well, which is no different than the

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character that we're seeing. So no, I don't feel like it gets taken

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away in all honesty, but I
just don't. I don't. I hate

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saying I just don't believe in La
Knight as a main event player. I

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think his his finisher is not the
best. It doesn't look like it hurts

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at all. It looks very hokey
in a way and hard to do.

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And yeah, I mean his characters
just remind me so much of the late

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nineties Rock Austin, what have you. Yeah, it doesn't, it doesn't

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for me. I think this is
where this is. This is where I

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might get called the hypocrite because I
get I give the AW fans crap for

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this, but you know, the
AW fans are like, oh, well,

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you don't know what osprey because you
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It's like I feel that night.
I'm like, no, the La Night

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character is the Eli Drake character.
Like it's the same character, and if

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you didn't watch TNA, you don't
know these things. But I kind of

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feel that way at times. I'm
like, nothing's changed. And to me,

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in the La Night character in twenty
twelve, if you had put him

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as a world champion, I would
have bought into it a little bit more

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because the roster was thinner and maybe
not as deep as it is now.

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He was a world champion there,
right, I mean in w W,

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oh gotcha? You know what I'm
saying. Like, if you if during

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that time when we had the seamuses
and the League of Nations and all that

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stuff, the Albertio Deel reels.
If the La Night character come on at

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that point and you put him in
the World Champion, I've been like spot

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on great choice right now with the
roster being so so heavy, like him

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on top, I would be like, Yeah, there's a lot of other

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guys. I think I would pick
over him right now to be World Champions.

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So I don't think some people call
him a knockoff of The Rock or

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poor like the Balmart version of The
Rock. To me, I'm like,

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it's just he's influenced, and I'm
like, I can see that with a

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lot of young wrestlers where they get
I mean to me, when you watch

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Brayson Waller. To me, he's
influenced heavily by the Miz, you know,

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Like, I don't like, I
see a lot of these similarities and

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a lot of the younger guys coming
up. It just sucks that when your

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influence is all the same show as
you, it's going to make you look

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a little bit weaker in comparison.
Going back to the tag team match and

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how you're going to book that while
thinking the world title matches, what is

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your as of March twenty first,
right now, Doctor Trey, what is

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your prediction for the tag team match
and then the two men's world title matches

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for Rust many forty. I have
Cody and Seth winning the tag match,

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Cody winning his match against Roman,
and Seth losing his match to Drew.

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Yeah, I'm the same one.
And that's the thing that I'm having trouble

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with is Rollins takes that match on
Saturday help Cody but loses his world title.

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Do they end up doing Seth as
a heel down the line feuding with

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Cody, like over SummerSlam or something
like that. I mean what if?

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I mean I could also see like
a member of the Bloodline helping cost Seth

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that match to where that way it's
not Seth was as clean. That's an

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interesting twist, you know, maybe
depending on you know, Solo doesn't have

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a match at wressele Media right now, which is wild to me. Yeah.

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So if Solo, because you know, the Bloodlight, can't get involved

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in Cody match to get revenge,
Solo hits the spike on Seth, Drew

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hits the claim or cashes in,
you know, exhausted, but he wins.

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I could see that happening. But
then Damien cashes in on Drew.

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I like that plan, because then
that would make sense to me. I

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don't want to get to bitter seth
Rons and we get another, you know,

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rehash of the Cody Roade Seth Ron's
feud, because I got to be

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honest, I was not the biggest
fan of how that feud went in twenty

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twenty two. No, because I'm
not a bad I'm not a fan of

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one guy winning three nothing over.
Yeah. Yeah, it's like at some

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point, but to me, also
at some point one of those two guys

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are gonna be healed at some point
in the next couple it's not you know,

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it's no. I mean, that
would be Hollywood Hogan the moment,

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you know, but you know,
if if a member of the blood Line,

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and maybe it's Jimmy and then Jay, you know that's Jay beats Jimmy,

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Jimmy still bad and cost Seth and
somebody I think somebody gets involved cost

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Seth the match. That way,
Seth doesn't come out, and Seth still

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just pissed off at that member of
the blood line. But then by the

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time he comes back from healing up
because he knows it's gonna be a I

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think it's Seth loses. Also,
where does he Seth take a couple of

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months off to kind of rest and
recuperate, so uh, and then when

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he comes back, he'll get right
back into the world title picture. Whoever

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is on top of that time.
There's another match that cat all tie in

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this as well. You've got that
real Ripley Backy Lynch in the background right

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now. Maybe that there's they reopen
the friendly nature banter between Rhea Ripley and

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Drew McIntyre, which also includes the
rest of the judgment day and feeds into

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that one being add at Seth Rond's
wife, Becky Lynch's. It's an interesting

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time frame and I'm not confused by
it that it's not like head scratching.

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I'm not looking at it as a
negative. I think it's a massive positive.

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And I really like that resting fans
can look at all different angles here

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than rather than seeing it be so
cut and dry and very predictable as it

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has been in the past. So
I think it's I think it's a pretty

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exciting booking right now, Doctor Trey. But my only concern is the tag

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team match is getting too much shine
over the two men's world title matches,

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which initially started this conversation. Yeah, and we basically at some point,

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I think you need Roman too.
We saw a little bit a few weeks

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ago with Roman told Rock that he
needed a handling dog. We Roman to

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reassert his roman Esque nature in this
because it to me, it feels like

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Roman's become the sidekick in this as
well. So Roman needs to kind of

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rest. And I know it's it's
hard to not be the secondary character to

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the Rock. But the Rock got
thirty minutes basically to start the show.

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It's back down, you know.
I think that the reason why that's happening

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is because they needed to do a
quick challenge and pivot of turning him here.

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Yeah, if he was a babyface, I think there is no you

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know, Roman playing in a background
player in this. And if it's Rock

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and Roman going in the WrestleMania,
I think there's that's pretty equal. I

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think that they needed to get Rock
heel pretty fast, and then once he

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did that, and with the nostalgia
route, I mean, the fans are

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eating it up. I mean,
how could you not. Well, I'm

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a huge Rock fan, so I'm
very biased, So I guess this is

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more of a question to you,
Doctor Trey, is how could you not

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be watching the rock stuff right now
on SmackDown and just be like highly entertained

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and smiling, Like I thought the
rock concert was great. Yeah, I

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mean it's really good. It's really
entertaining. But you know, to kind

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of we like I said, we
saw a lived on Monday night with Drew

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reasserting himself and reminding everybody, hey, we have our match on Sunday.

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I need you at as close as
HUT present as possible, you know type

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of thing. You just need Roman
to reassert himself because as much as we

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love Cody finishing his story, his
story is winning the championship, but his

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story now is also defeating Roman,
and so we do need a little bit

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of that, a little bit more
of that mixed in to kind of up

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the anting and his tag match,
because, like I said earlier, it

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does feel like it's it's very Cody
rock centric when it needs to be a

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little bit more focused also on Cody
and Roman as well. Well. Props

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wly because they're leaning into Drew McIntyre
being overshadowed as well, because they have

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that great segment where McIntyre comes out
for an entring promo segment and as he's

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making his way down the RNK,
he gets interrupted by Seth Freakin Rollins who

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just walks by them and ignores them, and then that leads into their promo

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battles, So a lot of odds
and ends, and then I'd like to

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see tied up a little bit as
we had in a WrestleMania and maybe we

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decides to do that intertwine some of
these because I do feel like the two

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Men's Bold Heavyweight Championship matches need to
get some shine equally as well Roads and

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Rains and Rollins and McIntyre, and
that could all stem off of this tag

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team match that has gotten a ton
of shine. Right now, heading into

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the build for Wrestmania forty, We're
going to quickly pivot to AW and go

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back to Mercedes mon A signing with
a company. According reports, it's a

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very historic signing because the belief is
that when she was in negotiations with w

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W and AW, the one thing
that she wanted to accomplish was to be

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the highest paid female in professional wrestling, and according to reports, the lodge

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behind that from Mercedes Monette in her
camp is because she wants to open up

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the door for women wrestlers to get
equal and or more pay than her.

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And when you really think about it, and there's not a lot of going

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back to the phrase shine again on
this signing, you think of it that

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way and how that is being reported, and this is a really historic signing

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Doctor Trey. If she is making
more money than reportedly Becky Lynch's in we

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and she's the highest paid female wrestler
in all professional wrestling right now. This

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is just like in sports, right
I mean, you and I see it

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as NFL fans. My favorite thing
is the quarterback money. Lamar Jackson will

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sign for forty six point five million
dollars of guaranteed money in the first annual

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00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:51.039
you know, aav annual average value, and it's like, well, where

404
00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:52.559
do they get the forty six point
five million, Well, it's because he

405
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:56.240
wanted to make more money than the
highest paid quarterback, which was Aaron Rodgers

406
00:29:56.440 --> 00:30:00.359
who was making forty six And you
could see that, you know, transcend

407
00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:03.839
over to the professional wrestling scene.
And when you think of it that way,

408
00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:07.519
and she's setting the standard, she's
setting the bar so that when Becky

409
00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:15.200
Bailey, Charlotte Bianca, whomever goes
back to contract negotiations, whether it be

410
00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:19.960
with WE and or AW, They're
going to use this as the jump point

411
00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:23.960
of well, I want more money
than Mercedes Monet. It makes you think,

412
00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:32.319
like, was this signing really historic
for the continued development and growth of

413
00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:38.640
women's wrestling in the world of professional
wrestling. It's a double edged sword.

414
00:30:40.359 --> 00:30:45.440
Like, on one hand, if
you are seen as a draw, then

415
00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:48.079
yeah, it's great leverage. You
know, you mentioned Charlotte Flair or the

416
00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:53.000
Becky lynchs or Rhea Ripley or beyonc
or whoever it is. If you're seen

417
00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:57.920
as a main event talent, regardless
of gender, it's great for you.

418
00:30:59.880 --> 00:31:03.279
The issue that we have to be
careful of is is she a draw?

419
00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:07.440
Is Mercedes money a draw? Is
are the Rady's gonna go up? Are

420
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:12.279
those numbers gonna go up to justify
the pay? Because otherwise it becomes the

421
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:18.119
you mentioned the quarterbacks. It becomes
the Jimmy Garoppolo of women's wrestling, where

422
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:22.599
like, you sign a great contract
because at one point, you know,

423
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:25.720
Bbying, the dieharded Iron fan,
Garoppolo is the highest paid quarterback in the

424
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:30.160
league for about a month and then
people are using his deal as a benchmark.

425
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:32.880
But then after a while you're like, man, like this guy is

426
00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:37.160
costing us twenty eight million dollars a
year and we're really not improving at all.

427
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:40.200
We're not getting any better, we're
not seeing the results. Well,

428
00:31:40.359 --> 00:31:42.400
is the next person then gonna go, well, I want to get more

429
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:45.960
by the Mercedes Modet. Well,
yeah, but that was a really bad

430
00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:48.880
contract and we don't pay people that
much. So it does kind of become

431
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:53.160
that double edged sword as to whether
or not does is she going to be

432
00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:59.000
able to outperform, like perform to
the level of or outperform the level of

433
00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:02.559
that contract to make it worthwhile to
an AW or WW two side of their

434
00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:07.200
talents to equal or more money than
issues getting mm hmm. Yeah, it's

435
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:15.200
interesting. It's a really it may
be a historical moment there that kind of

436
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:20.319
catapults I've felt like, well,
I certainly feel like I think the women's

437
00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:24.960
wrestlers absolutely deserve to be paid just
as equal value as the male wrestlers nowadays.

438
00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:31.720
Out to try, I would say
the top level talent. Oh absolutely,

439
00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:35.359
that's it. Yes, the main
that's what I mean. Like,

440
00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:39.839
if I don't think anybody is rowing
rain's money, but can you make a

441
00:32:39.880 --> 00:32:46.599
case that Ria Ripley, Bianca Belaire, Becky, Charlotte Bailey should be knocking

442
00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:52.720
on the door in the range of
where Seth Freakin, Rollins, Cody Rhodes,

443
00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:58.200
Randy Orton, Kevin Owens are yes
and okay in that little grouping,

444
00:32:58.279 --> 00:33:01.480
I would say there's a level.
There's a different level where Rawlin's and Rhodes

445
00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:06.599
and Randy because of his history,
I always say, be slightly above where

446
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:10.319
you put back in Tyre Owens like
those, Ria Ripley deserve drew back entire

447
00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:15.559
money. Yes, you know,
does you know Bria's on the level now

448
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:20.599
where she's on the buses, she's
on the billboard, she's main eventing shows

449
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:22.880
her merchandise itself. I think that's
where they are looking at it and go,

450
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:29.240
you know, are you driving the
money in to justify us paying you

451
00:33:29.279 --> 00:33:34.799
that much? As well? So
for somebody like Riha and you know Becky

452
00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:39.079
and Charlotte to a degree, I
don't think Charles ever moved the merchandise the

453
00:33:39.119 --> 00:33:43.480
other two have. But Seawn's never
been a great baby face, but as

454
00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:47.759
a heel she can help. She
builds baby faces where even in that little

455
00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:52.160
segment of women you mentioned I don't
know if Biaka and Bailey are on the

456
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:57.559
level where Ria, Becky and Charlotte
are, so I think they're even within

457
00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:02.039
those groupings. There's tears as well. So I think if Bailey came up

458
00:34:02.079 --> 00:34:05.599
as a free agent, I don't
think Bailey could go to aw'd be like,

459
00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:07.880
hey, I want to make more
money than Mercedes, because I don't.

460
00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:12.800
You don't think she could or should
I think she could ask. I

461
00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:15.800
don't know she'd get paid that because
I don't know if you put Bailey on

462
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:21.360
the level of main event, and
I'm just perception in fans eyes of what

463
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:24.440
Mercedes gets. I think to most
fans, Sawsha is a bigger star than

464
00:34:24.440 --> 00:34:30.039
Bailey. I don't think I think
AW will write that check book. Well

465
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:34.559
it does. I think it'll be
equal or more. I think the day

466
00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:38.440
when I saw that Shad Cohn was
worth twelve point two billion dollars in AWW

467
00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:45.119
combined, we're worth nine. That
helps that Dad's got a much deeper checkbook

468
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:50.679
than than WWE to a degree.
I think I think you can leverage at

469
00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:54.000
times and get there. But you
know, do you think Bianca would get

470
00:34:54.000 --> 00:35:00.320
paid more than than Mercedes? But
a by aw Yes, I do,

471
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:05.119
I do, I would say,
and that's that's that's where you got That's

472
00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:08.039
where that leverage comes in. That's
why the beauty of having two companies that

473
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:13.320
are competition, you can leverage one
against other. Because I I don't think

474
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:17.800
ww B wo if if if Bianco
or Bailey came up as free agents this

475
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:23.599
week and they went to Triple Agent
and uh nick con and like I want

476
00:35:23.639 --> 00:35:28.119
Mercedes Modet money or out walking,
I think they would let them walk.

477
00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:31.199
They'd be like, go ahead,
We're not. I don't think so,

478
00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:36.480
man. I think I think it's
a company that we all know. They're

479
00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:39.000
making billions of dollars and just got
what like a five billion dollars deal from

480
00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:43.280
Netflix. They can't say like,
all right, well we can't afford that.

481
00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:45.760
Go somewhere else. Yeah. I
just think that in their mind they

482
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:52.039
can create another star. I mean, look what they have done with Tiffany

483
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:53.639
Stratton on a very small scale.
That's what I'm saying, Like, I

484
00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:59.559
think they they could look at their
roster and go, can we afford to

485
00:35:59.639 --> 00:36:02.840
lose Yanka because we have JAKEE.
Cargill? Can we afford to lose Bailey?

486
00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:06.880
When we have a Tiffany strap.
Can we afford to lose one or

487
00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:10.079
two of these people and pay somebody
else who's maybe a notch below them or

488
00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:14.800
coming up what they're making now,
and not lose a step, because that's

489
00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:16.400
basically what they did. I mean, they offered sas money. She took

490
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:20.639
the eight w deal, but they
really didn't. I don't think. I

491
00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:23.159
don't know how hard they really fought
to bring Sasha back into the fault or

492
00:36:23.159 --> 00:36:27.679
Mercedes money back into the fault.
Uh Well, according to reports, there

493
00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:30.280
was a pretty decent college try.
At the end of the day, it

494
00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:34.760
came down to finances. Yeah,
I think that they were. They did

495
00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:38.760
not want to pay her more money
than Becky Lynch's Yeah it's mine. It's

496
00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:42.960
kind of the pay like once he
is. Use a sports analogy. The

497
00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:46.679
Patriots always had. They had values
based on position, like we could pay

498
00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:50.119
this you know, this position up
to this amount of money, or this

499
00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:52.519
position to this amount of money,
and they don't. They didn't cross those

500
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:57.920
lines. I think WW has the
same kind of idea, like, hey,

501
00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:00.880
we can pay our top female up
to this line. We don't want

502
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:06.400
to go past it or pass it
too far. Obviously, everybody's will get

503
00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:09.519
raises and get bumps and pay if
you're performing. But they have a budget

504
00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:13.320
in light of where they want to
pay people, and if somebody came through,

505
00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:16.400
they were like, hey, I
want the top pay in this history,

506
00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:21.199
in the history of women's wrestling.
And then he looks like goes,

507
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:25.280
well, you're the number seven woman
on our roster. They might let number

508
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:31.159
seven walk because ten, eleven to
twelve could easily take number seven spot.

509
00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:35.559
It's really interesting times. I think
at the end of the day, I

510
00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:39.760
still think it's a historic signing.
I think it's a huge needle mover for

511
00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:45.559
finances and money that will be paid
to female wrestlers. And yeah, I

512
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:53.199
think you're seeing the ground level of
where negotiations now will start and end for

513
00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:57.559
a lot of female stars. Because
if you're willing to pay Mercedes mone this

514
00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:01.599
money, you know there's that upper
rational of female talent. And yeah,

515
00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:06.199
I think it's a very historic moment. Doctor Trey. Do you think this

516
00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:08.880
makes it more likely that when Bailey's
deal comes up, she goes to AW

517
00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:15.199
I think she's a w wee girl. Yeah, but I mean literally like,

518
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:21.480
and I'll say why, because did
you see there was that interview that

519
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:25.719
they ended up like scrubbing the the
clip off of because as she was getting

520
00:38:25.719 --> 00:38:30.920
ready to debut in AW that Mercedes
Bone said in this interview she knew she

521
00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:35.519
was going She's going to return in
w someday. Yeah. I saw them

522
00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:37.559
scrub that part. Yeah yeah,
and then she like backtracked a little bit

523
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:40.920
or there was a little bit more
contacts and contacts and it was like,

524
00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:44.360
well, I mean, I may
just come back for one match and I'll

525
00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:46.599
be against Bailey and it's like,
oh, shut up, that's not that's

526
00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:52.239
not happening. So I thought that
was very strange. I just I just

527
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:57.039
I just saw that. I saw
that the Instagram post of Bailey and Naomi

528
00:38:57.159 --> 00:39:01.360
putting on disguises to go visit the
AW show to see Mercedes debut in Boston.

529
00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:05.760
I love that. I think that's
great to support your friends. We've

530
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:09.360
seen it when they went to New
Japan, they went to Mercedes and Bailey

531
00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:16.480
went to TNA to see I think
Trinity, Naomi's last match and one of

532
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:21.239
her first matches. They were behind
the scenes as well. I liked it.

533
00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:23.039
There's a little bit more flexibility in
that. And in case in point,

534
00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:27.639
I did not gain a lot of
traction from my eyes. But Matt

535
00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:31.039
Hardy was at RAW this past Monthay, well they were in Raw well,

536
00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:36.039
but I mean no, I mean
they could be in New York or in

537
00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:39.920
New York and and I don't know
is MJF got to show up to watch

538
00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:44.480
in Brooklyn in a couple of weeks. I mean Matt Hardy also had I

539
00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:46.440
mean there's still people in the company
that he's worked with. In those folks,

540
00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:51.000
I mean we talked about like,
well, there's reports that his contracts

541
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:52.599
coming up. Yeah, but we
also saw that when see Aim Punk was

542
00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:57.400
in Chicago and visited Money that I
visited Raw. From what we've learned,

543
00:39:57.480 --> 00:40:00.519
that was clearly Punk trying to figure
out how to get back to really well.

544
00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:04.639
He also with a TNA. He
did, he did, and that

545
00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:07.840
nearly became a reality as well,
which is I guess one of the reasons

546
00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:12.559
why Scott the Moore left the company. So interesting times for professional wrestling.

547
00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:15.559
It's cool to see as well as
as always this time of the year is

548
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:20.559
a lot of fun. And then
to bounce back to WW Doctor Trey.

549
00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:23.159
There's a report out there right now
from Wrestle Votes, which is this is.

550
00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:29.679
So this is is clear as Day
and his concrete, because they're very

551
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:34.440
rarely wrong. Four more WrestleMania matches
are expected to be announced for the event,

552
00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:38.000
with seven matches per night on the
card. Do you think so we've

553
00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:46.280
got then we've got ten matches announced? Is seven matches each night? Fourteen

554
00:40:46.320 --> 00:40:52.760
total? The right amount for WrestleMania
forty I I don't know if there's an

555
00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:57.519
actual right amount. I think there's
a time. I think there is.

556
00:40:57.559 --> 00:41:00.320
I think there's a right I get
your point, but I do you think

557
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:04.280
that there is can be a right
amount as well? I mean, if

558
00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:07.320
you have six matches and it goes
three hours, or you have seven matches

559
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:08.880
and it goes three hours, is
they're really a difference? That is a

560
00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:13.480
very good point. That is a
very good point. I mean to me,

561
00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:16.000
it doesn't if you're staying in that
three hour window. That does mean

562
00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:20.239
one of the matches. If you
do seven matches versus six matches, or

563
00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:21.840
I mean, dear god, what
we just have pay for review? They

564
00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:23.760
had four matches, yeah, well, I mean two of them were the

565
00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:30.159
elimination champe but you know two of
these on night two are world title matches.

566
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:36.360
So obviously they're gonna get twenty to
twenty to thirty minutes apiece. Well

567
00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:40.079
that's an hour between two matches.
It's five matches for the other two hours,

568
00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:45.880
and then plus your little you know, celebrity things or intermissions, not

569
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:47.480
intermission, but either the breaks between
the matches and stuff like that. So

570
00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:51.599
there is, you know, there
is there is a line at times because

571
00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:52.800
I mean, your god, we
don't want to go back to WrestleMania when

572
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:58.840
you had the eighteen second matches or
a seven minute match, because that doesn't

573
00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:00.960
feel like a good blowoff to a
few seven minute match is not a good

574
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:05.239
blowoff. You want to give matches
time, but then you also want to

575
00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:08.920
make sure you're getting value for your
time as well. And sometimes that quantity

576
00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:14.480
versus quality line is where I think
they dance on a lot, like you

577
00:42:14.519 --> 00:42:16.920
know, and plus I don't know
if it's still the case, but for

578
00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:22.800
for many many years, there was
a WrestleMania bonus that the performers got,

579
00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:27.280
and that's why we used to get
crazy number matches and all the Battle Royals

580
00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:30.199
and all the multiman badges. So
that way they felt like they were giving

581
00:42:30.239 --> 00:42:34.440
everybody, you know, their bonus
shine to use the word that you used

582
00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:37.800
several times a night. So there
is that line. I mean, dear

583
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:40.400
guy, I mean that's that would
be fourteen matches at a WrestleMania you know

584
00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:44.400
if we still had one night.
I mean, that's like an aw card.

585
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:50.119
Yeah, yeah, that aw card
is rather long. I just had

586
00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:54.000
that moment of like my heart stopping
the five hour pay per views and stuff

587
00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:57.440
like that, like I may like
WrestleMania New Organs and when I went to

588
00:42:57.559 --> 00:43:00.400
I mean we got to the show
at I think we got there like doors

589
00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:05.960
open at four thirty, and then
the pre show stuff started like five thirty

590
00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:08.480
six, and then we left.
You know, that's the infamous Rollman Brock

591
00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:14.760
match that we left right after introductions
and we left there at ten thirty and

592
00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:16.639
that match still with like another thirty
forty minutes. I mean I was only

593
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:22.079
went another two days. Yeah,
So, like I learned, my entire

594
00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:22.960
night was just I just want to
hear Paul I haven't do the intros,

595
00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:29.440
and that was very I remember restumating
thirty five. I started watching the show

596
00:43:29.480 --> 00:43:34.000
at five pm because they were doing
the pre show and aired a couple of

597
00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:37.800
matches on USA Network. I remember
like FTR and Hawkins and Ryder had a

598
00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:42.719
match, and then I remember the
main event went on close to midnight,

599
00:43:42.760 --> 00:43:46.360
which was the Triple Threat Women's match, and it like ended at twelve thirty,

600
00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:49.719
you know, twelve forty five,
and it was like I just sat

601
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:52.320
on the couch for seven and a
half hours watching restuming, and I remember

602
00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:55.199
we had the discussion like they need
to break this up, and then they

603
00:43:55.239 --> 00:44:00.239
did it the next year, well
circumstance because of COVID and then him a

604
00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:02.119
regular thing on thirty seven, thirty
eight, thirty nine and now forty and

605
00:44:02.159 --> 00:44:06.840
I love that they do that.
So I do get your point where it's

606
00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:13.360
like it's not quantity, it's more
quality, and yeah, yeah, I

607
00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:16.559
guess it's not the right amount.
It's more of the time overall. Yeah,

608
00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:20.599
that was the year we actually talked
about Wrestle king to be two nights

609
00:44:20.599 --> 00:44:22.400
and if ww should do like what
Wressell Kingdom does. We sat he would

610
00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:24.639
let me be a great idea,
and then the next year they went through

611
00:44:24.639 --> 00:44:28.760
with it because of COVID. But
that's something that you and I might want

612
00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:31.159
a research. But to go back
to Wrestle Batien and see how many matches

613
00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:36.559
on average they had at wrestle Media
prior to going at two knights. Oh

614
00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:38.960
dude, they had like fifteen or
sixteen on thirty five. Do you remember

615
00:44:39.079 --> 00:44:45.239
like some Moa Joe and Raymysterio had
like a ninety second match. Yeah,

616
00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:49.400
and that's and that's where like if
you' which was so damn disrespectful, and

617
00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:51.599
that way, if you're looking at
going, okay, well, if they

618
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:55.800
if they do sixteen matches, divide
that too, eight would be the number.

619
00:44:55.920 --> 00:45:00.159
And if they're coming in at seven
or coming in at six, And

620
00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:05.920
that makes sense because that way you're
still getting the quantity of previous wrestlemtings with

621
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:08.000
the qualities better because it's broken up
over two nights and you can digest it

622
00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:12.079
better. All right, let's take
a look here real quick, and then

623
00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:14.679
we'll go through the card round up. And I want to know what matches

624
00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:19.039
we think may be missing of the
four WrestleMania thirty four Doctor Trey, you

625
00:45:19.079 --> 00:45:22.639
were there live, how many matches
do you think took place at that card

626
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:28.360
on the main show? No,
no, do the whole show. The

627
00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:31.840
whole shows one, two, three, four, five, six. It

628
00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:38.119
was probably around twelve twelve, I
believe it was fourteen fourteen, okay,

629
00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:43.920
fourteen matches on thirty four and then
there's two matches I forgot. I think

630
00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:49.360
one of them involved Nicholas and then
thirty five. How many matches do you

631
00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:52.840
think we're on there start to finish
counting the pre show, I would say

632
00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:58.119
sixteen for that one, because that
way you are dead on sixteen matches.

633
00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:01.760
Rollins and brock lesra on that card
went two minutes and thirty seconds. Samo

634
00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:07.199
Joe and Raymisterio my apologies, it
went fifty eight seconds. Roman Reigns,

635
00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:13.199
Drew McIntyre went ten minutes. Corbyn
Kurdang and went six minutes. Finn Baler

636
00:46:13.199 --> 00:46:21.880
and Bobby Lashley Interconinal Championship match at
WrestleMania four minutes and five seconds. Don't

637
00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:24.239
forget. We've also had, like
you know JBL and Raybisterio was like,

638
00:46:24.519 --> 00:46:29.199
was what like forty five seconds?
Well they did that purposely, Yeah,

639
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:34.119
that was that was JBL's way of
paying respect to Eddie who had passed away

640
00:46:34.159 --> 00:46:37.519
at that point and wanted to retire
on the sword against Ray Asterio. So

641
00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:42.880
h but I mean, that's that's
one thing we haven't had since we've gone

642
00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:45.800
to two nights are those like what
the hell did I just see matches where

643
00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:52.599
it's like that short. We've had
longer batches the guys that had better build

644
00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:55.719
And I think I think Triple H, being a former performer, understands that,

645
00:46:55.760 --> 00:46:59.519
Like im if I'm going to be
at WrestleMania. I mean, dear

646
00:46:59.519 --> 00:47:02.039
guy, he's had some stinkers at
WRESTLEMANI he's has some brain matches Wrestleman.

647
00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:05.960
So I think he understands, Hey, we got to get these guys some

648
00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:08.239
time to tell their story. So
yeah, let's get the guys on the

649
00:47:08.280 --> 00:47:12.239
show. It might be a multi
man match, but dear God, let's

650
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:14.159
get the guys on the show.
Let me get their money, but also

651
00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:16.519
give them time to actually perform up
their standards. Triple H got jobbed out

652
00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:22.000
to Ultimate Warrior WrestleMania in like seconds, so yeah, he certainly knows what

653
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:25.320
that is like. Looking at the
Wrestlemanting forty card round up, what was

654
00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:30.079
announced since we last recorded this podcast, La Knight and AJ Styles is official

655
00:47:30.280 --> 00:47:37.199
as official Jay Uso and Jimmy Uso
is official. And there's a really cool

656
00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:43.760
stat here that every fifteen years since
WrestleMania at ten. A WrestleMania match has

657
00:47:43.800 --> 00:47:47.519
had a brother versus brother match Brent
No and at WrestleMania at ten Matt versus

658
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:51.840
Jeff at Restman. In twenty five. Michael Cole actually mentioned it mentioned in

659
00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:55.480
Unraw this past week. That is
now official Logan Paul defending the United States

660
00:47:55.519 --> 00:48:00.960
Championship against Randy Norton Kevin Owens,
which Doctor Treyna trying to figure out where

661
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:05.639
that match was going is now official. DIY, the Awesome Truth and The

662
00:48:05.679 --> 00:48:08.440
New Day have been added to the
six Pack Ladder match for the NSP to

663
00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:12.199
WA Tag Team Championship. There are
two spots remaining. Those will go to

664
00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:17.199
SmackDown which is doing a mini tournament
right now. Sidebar on that DIY versus

665
00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:22.599
the Creed Brothers go back and watch
that match. That was awesome for a

666
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:28.159
television match. So LA and I
AJ styles USA versus USO Logan or in

667
00:48:28.360 --> 00:48:31.239
Kevin Owens, DIY, Awesome Truth, New Day added to the tag match.

668
00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:36.960
Doctor Trey, your thoughts on the
recently added matches to Russell Many forty.

669
00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:42.599
I'm looking forward the tag match because
I mean everybody have been added like

670
00:48:42.719 --> 00:48:45.400
so far, like everybody added.
Some matches has has a role. Like

671
00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:51.320
we've seen Dy against Judgment Day.
We've seen the interactions of New Day and

672
00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:54.480
Judgment Day going back a few months
ago. Awesome truth. You know obviously

673
00:48:54.559 --> 00:48:59.400
have their issues with Judgment Day.
So everything storyline wise fits. I'm looking

674
00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:02.480
forward to that one. Or and
Logan Paul is going to be really really

675
00:49:02.519 --> 00:49:07.960
fun U USSO and USO is great. And then does this mean at WrestleMania

676
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:15.480
fifty five we get Logan against Jake
Paul. It is predictab intersting. They

677
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:22.440
be in their forties, so you
know, projecting it out interesting. And

678
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:27.159
then, like we mentioned earlier here
Doctor Trey, there are four matches left

679
00:49:27.880 --> 00:49:32.400
to be added on our list of
rumor slash expected. We had down the

680
00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:39.039
Final Testament versus The Pride, Grayson
Waller versus Austin Theory, Raymisterira versus Santos

681
00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:43.400
Escobar. I know it's taking place
on SmackDown on Friday. I do think

682
00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:49.880
that happens at WrestleMania somehow, or
maybe there's like Raymons Stereo and Bad Bunny

683
00:49:49.960 --> 00:49:58.199
versus Santos and someone, and then
Jade Cargill and Bianca Belaire are down as

684
00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:02.320
our rumored expected list of those four, which ones do you think do make

685
00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:07.440
it to the WrestleMania Card one and
then two? What matches are we missing

686
00:50:07.480 --> 00:50:12.079
to fill these spots for the four
voids? I guess we could always go

687
00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:15.199
back to Well, they'll have the
Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal in the

688
00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:19.559
WrestleMania Women's Battle Royal. That can
fill that as well. I think the

689
00:50:19.599 --> 00:50:23.920
Pride Final Testament things happening. I
think we get some kind of Ray and

690
00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:29.480
Santos interaction, whether it's a you
know, one on one or they do

691
00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:34.119
l W o versus Lake Gado,
Delfa Tasma, some kind of thing that

692
00:50:34.199 --> 00:50:39.639
I think that will happen. The
Jade Bianca thing is there because since the

693
00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:44.519
since the Rubble, we haven't seen
Jay Carter. I know so here and

694
00:50:44.559 --> 00:50:47.159
there, but we have not seen
her like play a significant role, and

695
00:50:47.239 --> 00:50:51.400
at this point I don't think it's
happening. I think what we might get

696
00:50:51.599 --> 00:50:57.960
is Naomi and against the Kabuki Warriors, which is something else I had thought

697
00:50:57.960 --> 00:51:00.079
about was doing. You know,
I mentioned if you did Beca and Jade

698
00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:05.719
against the Warriors, they're just somebuting
Jake Cargo out for Naomi. And then

699
00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:09.920
what was the other one we did. You mentioned Ray Santo's Pride, Fantastic

700
00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:16.119
Grayson and Austin theory that one.
I don't know. We haven't seen Austin

701
00:51:16.199 --> 00:51:19.960
turned yet, and I think if
you're going to do that, just being

702
00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:22.719
a few weeks out for WrestleMania,
you would have pulled the trigger on that

703
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:25.440
one. So I think they might
get dumped into the Battle Royal. I

704
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:30.719
just think there's one more out there. Let's see, where are we missing

705
00:51:31.400 --> 00:51:37.679
women's match for anybody? Unless they
do die and limb to do like a

706
00:51:37.719 --> 00:51:40.639
David versus Malaiath. I think I'm
starting to as we talk it out loud,

707
00:51:40.719 --> 00:51:45.119
I'm starting to think that two of
those four matches andre the Giant Memorial

708
00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:47.480
Battle Royal. I can't see that
not happening unless they do it on the

709
00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:52.480
SmackDown before and WrestleMania Women's Battle Royal, which the focus would be nigh and

710
00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:55.519
live on that match. Yeah,
I think those are two of the four.

711
00:51:57.440 --> 00:52:00.280
So then which one of the of
the two men's match? I mean,

712
00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:02.199
are so are you on the page
with the Pride and Final Testament though

713
00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:07.400
I am not on the same page
with that. I think Mysterio Santos either

714
00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:12.519
one on one or some sort of
like tag team match happens at WrestleMania,

715
00:52:13.639 --> 00:52:17.440
And I'm going to I really like
your idea of Bianca and Naomi taking on

716
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:22.440
the Kabooki Warriors. I could totally
see that. I'm gonna say, Jade,

717
00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:25.800
Bianca is still on the table.
They still have time to build towards

718
00:52:25.840 --> 00:52:30.800
it. But I mean, if
nothing happens on SmackDown on Friday, I

719
00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:34.920
mean, I think we can almost
x that from our list because we saw

720
00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:38.119
Naomi get involved with Bailey, yes, and damage Control and that, and

721
00:52:38.119 --> 00:52:42.440
then we saw the interaction of Naomi
and Bianca, yeah, the week priory.

722
00:52:43.360 --> 00:52:45.000
So that's why I was trying to
tie it all together. Yeah,

723
00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:47.480
I like that plan. And the
only thing that plays a role in that

724
00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:52.800
is how significant is Oscar's injury that
she clearly suffered at the end of SmackDown

725
00:52:52.840 --> 00:52:55.519
this past Friday. Well, I
mean, do you pull does damage Control

726
00:52:55.559 --> 00:53:00.039
pull Freebird rules and Da Kodagish subbed
in for Oscar. Yep, that's a

727
00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:02.880
great save as well. They certainly
can do that. So it's gonna be

728
00:53:04.079 --> 00:53:07.239
like, but you, I mean
the last couple of years, I mean

729
00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:08.760
that the Battle of Royals were done
on SmackDown as well. I know,

730
00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:14.559
I know, so interesting. We'll
see where SmackDown goes on Friday and if

731
00:53:14.559 --> 00:53:17.079
we get a little bit more light
shined on which matches will be added to

732
00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:22.880
WrestleMania come the next five shows of
Raw and SmackDown. So that is the

733
00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:28.519
latest WrestleMania forty card roundup. Uh
And that with that being said, let's

734
00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:30.159
close up this week's edition in the
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757
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We will preview and predict everything going
on during the Wrestlmanting forty card weekend,

758
00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:07.599
whether it be the Restumating forty card
itself stand to deliver from NXT the

759
00:55:07.639 --> 00:55:08.920
Hall of Fame. We will be
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760
00:55:08.960 --> 00:55:14.599
course in three weeks we will recap
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