Is Sami Zayn turning heel? + NXT Halloween Havoc preview | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #872 – 10/29/26

0:00 It's still really a big hit! What now? Welcome everybody! Welcome to this week's This and This Still Road at Show. It was over 872 for October 29th, 2026. Welcome to this week's edition of AskRoutine. You. I am one half of the show. I am Jeff Fett, joined every single week in my close to one of the Dr. Fred Franklin, Dr. Trey. What are you going to be for Halloween this year, my friend?

0:41 Working! I'll be at work all day, so I don't really have any plans for dressing up, which is weird because usually that Halloween is my favorite holiday. We've covered that many, many times on this show. I do have a Jason Voorhees mask. It's just a cheap hockey mask. I might throw that one on, but Jeff, you would have been so proud yesterday. Why? Why would you do? So yesterday, young Sammy Franklin, they had a local hero day at school. So you had to dress up as your favorite local hero. And Sammy was like, "I want to be a fireman."

1:23 Wow. So we went on Amazon, disandsearching, found a really, really cute fireman outfit. He wore that all day at school. And then while he was at school, I found out that they were having a big, trunk-or-treat type event at one of the towns nearby. So when he got out of school, I'm like, "Hey, you already have a costume on. Do you want to go to this?" He's like, "Yeah." So he goes out there and there's all these kids running around, spider-man and Hulk, and you know, Paw Patrol and everything else. And Sammy's there rocking his fireman outfit. And one of the little boys that's about his age dressed up as spider-man looked at him and goes, "Hey, I love your costume.

2:06 Your fireman costume looks amazing." And you saw like the little beam of pride come across Sammy's face. And I was like, "You know, I know a real fireman." I said, "Remember when I do my wrestling show?" And he's like, "Yeah, I'm like Jeff's a real fireman." And he's like, "That's what I want to be when I grow up as a fireman." Wow. Let's see. It's like every little kid's job. They want to do it. But yeah, I get to still do it. Yeah. We never grow up. You got to tell him. He told me, "So he has a career plan." So here's my seven-year-old ghost. You're seven-year-old as a career plan. He has a vanilla folder. He takes it out, shows you PowerPoint. Not quite that much, but yeah, he goes.

2:47 Because so every Tuesday is pizza day. Because mom's got to work open to close. So we go down to our dominoes. And dominoes has that thing where you can, like for little kids, they can stand on some steps and see the guys making pizzas. And he's like, "All right, dad, first, I want to work at dominoes. Then I want to be a fireman. And then I want to be in a restaurant. And I was like, "That's actually pretty smart because, you know, first high school job, dominoes, get out of high school, go be a volunteer fireman. And then while you're getting your degree, hey, then you can start transitioning over into workings where it's being in astronauts.

3:29 So I'm like, at least he's got a little bit of a logical career path. I was very, very proud of my son. Hey, you know what? You got to start somewhere. He's like, "You know, I got to start working at a young age, make that money so I could try to buy a house." Yeah. Because it's probably got to be astronomically expensive by the time I turn 20. Yeah, no, I'm proud of him. That's amazing that he's got this career path already in his mind. And of course, you know, they're moving the headquarters of Space Force to Alabama. So. This is all lining up. This is all lining up for you on San Luis Franklin. I am very, very proud of him. So, given my best and, yeah, we'll have to talk fire fighting sometime him and I may, we'll do a podcast. Sammy Franklin, I'm talking fire fighting.

4:11 Dr. Trey, speaking of Sammy's, let's talk about the WWE Undisputed Champion, Sammy Zane, as he is starting to sound like the villain. And is he the champion that's been turning heel this entire time? Is he that heel while he thinks he's the bad guy? The last good guy in WWE. So, Sammy's championship brain is becoming less about finally reaching the top and more about how he is handling being there. On SmackDown, he denied Trick Williams a title opportunity and then caught him with a cheap shot. On Raw, Sammy lash out at the WWE Universe because he feels the fans still do not respect him as Undisputed WWE Champion. Javan Evans challenged him on the spot in Sammy escape with the title after Braun Breaker stopped Pente's attempted money to been cashed and created the distraction that led to a Huluva kick.

4:58 WWE is no longer presenting Sammy as this purely sympathetic underdog champion now. He is defensive, increasingly arrogant and convinced the audience does not appreciate what he has accomplished. This is fast and in contrast with Roman Reigns heading into their champion versus champion match at Crown Jewel. Because Roman has spent his title right and trying to prove he can win without the bloodline while Sammy is starting to use questionable tactics and blame everyone around him. The more Sammy changes, the less Crown Jewel feels like another chapter of their old bloodline story. So bottom line in this entire thing, Dr. Trey, Sammy Zane finally became the champion he spent years chasing and WWE may be showing us what happens when finally getting everything he wanted changes you. So I often wonder, especially nowadays, we've talked about the Roman Reigns booking over the last three to four months as he a heal as he a good guy.

5:45 So now I ask you this, is WWE actually turning Sammy Zane heal or are they just giving him an edge that his championship reign needed? See, I think the Sammy Healturn came like months ago. Like the Sammy enriched me like when he turned on Cody, that was the original Healturn and then the way he angled it, I thought was brilliant in the sense of he was making people feel, you know, sympathetic torches quest. Like there's for every great heal, there's an element of truth in their delusion. And that was Sammy's delusion, that he was actually the good guy in this story.

6:27 And even now the way he's being presented, even though he's leaning more and more into the heal character in his promos, there's always those nuggets of truth in there. It's very much like what Jericho did back in the late 90s, early 2000s. You know, you have to believe the lie, you're telling people to get other people to buy the lie as well. And I think they've done a fantastic job of it. It's a little bit more of a fluid state because you and I talked about the show months ago where like, Romans acting like a heal, but everybody's cheering him. And Sammy was acting like a baby face and people were booing him. I think both sides of that coin have kind of gone back to their base where Romans got, you know, a little bit more baby faces.

7:12 And Sammy's gotten a little more healish and they're kind of leaning into those qualities as they head into crown jewel. So would be Dean Roman Reigns validate Sammy or would it make this version of him even worse from an audience damn point? Okay, from an audience, okay, I was trying to make this worse. If you beat Roman Reigns, that's kind of a feather in everybody's cat in your chest. Get that. Yeah, I mean, to me, beating Roman at crown jewel legitimizes Sammy as a top guy. I think there's still, when you see Sammy Zane holding the title and we've seen the promos where like, look, you might not even make it to crown jewel to championship. Like nobody believes this is a long term run for Sammy.

7:59 So beating Roman gives him an extra layer of credibility as no, this is a main event guy. This is no longer an upper upper mid card lower main event guy. Like this is a main event got. And and that's where I think if he beat her, I don't know if the crowd would look at it. Like it makes it worse. I mean, he might cheat to win, but from a character and long term booking standpoint, this makes Sammy a main event guy if he were to get the win over Roman at crown jewel. Yeah, I'm really dig in the Sammy Zane character, Dr. Try. I think he may be my favorite character. I don't know if it's like him or so from a WWE standpoint.

8:40 Then I've really enjoyed from a character creation depth at different layers this year in 2026. Like I feel like it's down the Sammy and and Solo for me. No, Lo is, I don't know the, Sammy's, or Solo's more fun to watch. Solo's like the wild car. Like you don't know what he's going to say. You don't know how he's in the act. He's always, he's in a lot of, and I think if you go back to that promo with him and the bloodline where he's, where the three members of the bloodline are standing back listening to Solo talk, Solo's got a little bit of rocket, right? Like he's, he's getting, he's pretty charismatic and you don't know what he's going to say. You don't know how it's going to flow, but it's always entertaining. Sammy's just like in that Jericho heel prime world where you're just like, man, like everything he says, you're like, I don't like how he's saying it, but he's not wrong.

9:32 You know, and that makes it so entertaining. It's like watching, you know, your favorite Marvel villain, whether they're doing it solo, literally, and you're just like, damn, like I get, like I get why Thanos wants to take out half with the multi-verse. I get why, you know, Darth Vader joined the dark side, like I get what? I don't like it, but I understand it. And that's where Sammy's living right now. Yeah, no, I totally agree. It's, it's definitely his prime right now. I think that was the best way to put it is, like Sammy's definitely in his prime. Moving on here, keeping it from like the wrong Smackdown blend to what took place on Smackdown this week. We've got CM Punk versus Kevin Owens. It finally has a date. And now how far should WWE end up leaning into their real life history?

10:14 So Punk and Owens sat down together on Smackdown barely made it to the conversation without exploding. All this made Punk versus Owens official for the November 6th Smackdown from Brooklyn. Both Mike continued blaming the other for why Sammy Zane is holding on to speed away WWE Championship. And WWE is also leaning to the genuine, genuine issues and history between Punk and Owens dating back to their independent days. The strongest part of this rivalry is that the hostility feels believable without WWE having to manufacture much, which is no surprise with guys like Punk and Owens in this. Punk and Owens are both elite talkers who can make personal history feel uncomfortable without completely losing the wrestling story. Their first match in August had the WWE Championship attached to it. This time the grudge itself is just enough. The danger is going too far into insider history, then only longtime fans could understand. That is a danger in this entire thing.

11:00 So bottom line, Punk versus Owens works because fans believe they genuinely do not like each other. WWE just has to know where reality should stop and the wrestling stories should begin. So Dr. Trey, ask you this, is Punk versus Owens better now that there is no championship involved? Yeah, in a way. I'll say, I mean, anybody listening to this show for 827 episodes knows your and my love for Kevin Owens is Sammy Zane. Both of us really want to see KO get a title, especially coming back from that career threatening neck injury. But the fact that this rivalry is stretching out, you get more layers in the story. So the story is better. I got honestly like, yeah, what I love to see KO get another World Tata run absolutely.

11:49 But the fact that you're leaning into this, there's real life tension. And I don't know if there's anybody in the business who is better or we've that we've ever seen better than CM Punk at getting into these storylines where you're like, damn, is this real? Like, is this going to devolve into a shoot fight at some point? Like, it blurs that line. And Punk may be the best ever at doing this. So we saw it with Drew McIntyre a couple of years ago. We're seeing it now with Kevin Owens. We've seen it during his time in AEW, even in his first run in WWE, he would blur those lines sometimes. So, yeah, I think it's better because we get more of the story getting fleshed out. We feel it's uncomfortable at times.

12:35 And as a viewer watching pro wrestling, when you're watching something going on TV and you get that level of uncomfortableness, you're like, it makes you want to keep watching more. So I do think it's actually a little bit better now without the title on the line. Yeah, I agree with you. I like that there's no title and it's just the famous few of like, they don't need one. They don't need a championship to make me feel interested in this. How much of the real life history should WWE use before this story starts feeling too inside base, Bolly? I think they're about the line right now. I don't want to go much past this because I mean, especially if you like, you don't have really any of the footage you can lean into because, you know, ring of honor stuff's owned by AEW.

13:19 So you can't, if you had footage from those indie days that you could parse in to kind of give a little more backstory to newer fans or younger fans, great. But without that, you can't keep telling these stories about a locker room in Paduca, Kentucky in 2002 without fans going, what are they talking about? You're at that line right now. So this is about where I cut it. I mean, it's crazy that we have two of these feuds going on between Randy and Cody and KO and Sammy where we're like, there's no title in line and it's all just personal history. And one does feel slightly fresher than the other, but the other one's been going on for nine months. That's probably why.

14:04 Yeah, no, it totally great. So yeah, I mean, the inside baseball stuff sometimes it goes over to fans heads that aren't. As in tuned with the program that led to this, then others are and sometimes I do think that that does take away where people just like, okay, wait, I really have to watch this very vigorously. It's like, um, it's like how I feel watching Star Wars stuff or Harry Potter stuff. Like I'm like, I have to know these little little little intricacies of what goes on or the Marvel stuff. And sometimes that does lose fans and the impact fans may have towards a feud and a story such as this. I'm switching over to a W Dr. Trey. We've got blood and guts. It is official and to do a W finally build a war big enough for a cage like blood and guts because we've got the Don Calis family.

14:52 They dominated the wrestling dream, followed up a sort of Don and Mike Mark Davis and Jack Doyle demolished AW Roltec team champions, the young bucks in under three minutes and earned a future title shot. Kyle Fletcher and Kevin Ite and defeated AW World Champion Will Ospreay and Adam Copeland with Fletcher pinning Copeland after the callus, Calis family overwhelmed Ospreay and Copeland Darby on return with Steven Borden who issued the blood and guts challenge Don, Don Calis accepted. And now on November 4th, we've got Will Ospreay, Adam Copeland, Steven Borden, the young bucks in Darby on versus Kisicco, Kata, Kyle Fletcher, Wardle, Kevin Knight, Mark Davis and Jack Doyle. Blood and guts works best when the match feels like the unavoidable endpoint of an actual war. The Calis family now has direct issues with Ospreay, Copeland Darby and the bucks rather than feeling like six wrestlers assemble just to fill the cage.

15:37 Copeland entering one of AW's most violent matches during the final stretch of his career gives the match extra weight. The result can also establish whether the Calis family is genuinely AW's dominant faction or simply another obstacle for baby faces. So what else matters in this entire thing? You've got Iliad Dragon off defeating Speedball Mike Bailey in his first AW match and immediately looked like he belonged to the Mate of Antico system. Dragon off does not need a long introduction period. AW has enough elite opponents to start giving him major matches immediately. So we're talking about two different things here because bottom line in this entire thing for the first time in a while, AW has a blood and guts match where the violence feels like the natural destination rather than the gimmick creating the rivalry. So Dr. Trey, do you feel like this is one of the strongest blood and guts lineups AW has put together in years based on the star potential or the star power of it I should say?

16:26 I mean, yeah, and then plus you look at like the baby face team, you have the veteran and cop. You have the face of the franchise in Ospreay. You have the bucks who are veterans. And then you have Darby who you know, do something crazy and then you have young Steve Borden jumping into the mix as well. It's like, wow, that's a really quite quite a contrast in career lineage for this team. And then you have the cows family who is is reviled in a lot of ways, but I think it's more the hatred of Donk House. It's kind of also a little bit like back in the day when the old survivors are supposed to be like the baby face team against the Hening family.

17:10 And it wasn't like any member of the Hening family was more hated than anybody else other than Bobby Hening. And that's kind of where we're at with this where like I don't know anybody who just hates Kyle Fletcher or Kevin Knight or you know Jack Doyle or Mark Davis or O'Cotta, but everybody hates Donk House. And it's kind of a weird way of doing this very old school and how they put this together. You know, the crazy thing is right now you have this rivalry going on and then bubbling under the surface. You have the death rider, you know, conglomeration, the cut, I believe they're going by now. Like that could be a blood and guts match if they went that way, but this that's just too new for it.

17:52 So this one here like I'm excited for it. Like seeing Cope in this match knowing his history and like Helena cell is really, really cool to me. So it's going to be an interesting, interesting matchup is going to be playing this out. So like I'm pretty stoked for it because you know everybody wants to get Donk House in the cage. And I think that's at one point we're going to get C Donk House get pulled into the cage and blood and guts. And I think that'll make the fans happy. Dr. Tray, when we look at a card like this and you compare it to the stuff with the blood line and 946 and we expect this to be going to war games at the end of next month. Does that dampen anything with your feelings towards blood and guts when WWE is running a very similar storyline right now where it ends in a cage?

18:34 No, because I think in reality like that's kind of where we're headed with wrestling. I mean we've talked about with AEW for five or six years. This is the sheer volume of staples and groups they've had. They almost do almost it's almost like gang warfare in AEW a lot of times where WWE has started and stopped. These group rivalries and you and I have talked about like we love groups like we love staples. We love good guy staples. We love bad guy staples. So I don't think it dampens in anything. I think one feels more a bunch of good guys hate this one heel manager and he's got a stable. So that's how it ends up that way. Whereas in WWE it still feels I don't know if it feels it feels personal in the attacks like the other one feels more like gang attacks.

19:22 In WWE there may be AEW but you give me staples and stuff like that and it's have a cage that just feels fun to me. Yeah no I'm excited for both these matches and blood and guts is going to be exciting next week when that airs on Dynamite. Going to the Ely Dragon off stuff. So how quickly do you think WWE or AEW excuse me should push Ely Dragon off towards an Osprey or Kata or another top level program based off of what you see? I mean well we're one match into his run in AEW. I mean it's good but you know I don't know if he's ready to challenge O'Kata because you know it's one thing we talk about. If I'm putting somebody in that main event picture it's either A) to see if they can handle the pressure A'la, Kenny Omega and Kevin Knight.

20:09 A'la was Kyle Fletcher and was the hangman they put him in there with when hangman was on top? Yes. Like you want to see if that young guy can hold his own on like a B+ pay per view before you put him into that mix. And as much as we all love Ely's in ring stuff I got to see if they can handle a promo. I got to see if they can be the face of the franchise. You know if I'm putting him in there in a world title match I would have him go for O'Kata that makes sense to me. You know because it's kind of like the B or it's the A-title. So you can put him in that in a rivalry with O'Kata I think everybody would jump all over that.

20:51 If that is if Ely is a baby face because his first match is against another baby face. So I don't even know what Ely's character is yet. So I think you need to flesh that out a little bit before you put him into a program. I mean typically we see these guys go for the TNT title in this setup but O'Kata is not kind of feuding with somebody right now but after blood and guts. He's going to need somebody to challenge in who better than Ilya. I'd love to see Ely get the ball. I think that was a very big missed opportunity by WWE. I don't know if he would have been World Champion material this young in his career but I looked at him as somebody that was like a top level character.

21:32 I know we're not that far away from looking back at our predictions from earlier this year the first show of the year. And there's going to be predictions for me about Ely Dragon off that we're going to like cringe about because here he is in a different company. And if you ask me back in November and December of last year when he was I think it was like right around this time like he wins the United States Championship. And he's he's ascending really well and having some really strong matches on SmackDown that are highly entertaining. I would have guessed it like this is a guy that could be going after the Monday the Bank briefcase. Instead he got like shelled before WrestleMania and then just sat on the sidelines waiting for his contract to run out so that he pops up in any WWE. I mean to me just a totally missed opportunity. I put him in that same realm as Gunther.

22:12 I think he's obviously much younger and farther down the ladder version of where Gunther is right now but he has that type of potential. So I was disappointed to see WWE let him walk but WWE's loss is certainly AW's gain where he's a guy that can barely really be featured prominently in all the wrestling moving forward. Let's talk about NXT Halloween Havoc. It comes to us this Saturday from the WWE Performance Center in Orlando, Florida. It'll be airing at 7 p.m. Eastern 4 p.m. Pacific over on the CW. Dan Housen will host the show six matches are now officially announced after Tuesday nights go home edition of NXT. Tavy on Heights vs. Miles Bourne, Miles Bourne was added as a weapons wild match after Dan Housen ordered the Halloween Havoc wheel to be spun.

22:57 The main event story also got its final escalation when Grayson Waller showed up at Tony D'Angelo's home and the two brawl before Saturday's NXT Championship match. So here's the full announced card following Tuesday nights NXT. N'Rockoo vs. Shiloh Hill, Zarya vs. Izzy Damon, an on title match, Tavy on Heights vs. Miles Bourne and a weapons wild match. Zillif A2 vs. Charlie Dempsey and a spin the wheel make the deal match. Kalani Jordan, Defancy NXT Women's Championship against Rentson Claire, and Grayson Waller, Defancy NXT Championship against Tony D'Angelo. So what am I watching for? We've got Tavy on Heights vs. Miles Bourne now as the clear stipulation on the card. Their former friendship has already turned violent and weapons wild gives NXT permission to feel like an actual grudge match rather than another singles match.

23:39 Zillif A2 vs. Charlie Dempsey still has the most unpredictability because spin the wheel make the deal can completely change the kind of match they have on Saturday. And Rentson Claire earned her title shot by disguising herself as A.W. Excuse me, A Triple A's Lady Shawnee and Winnie the number one contender's battle royale while suspended one of the strangest roads to a ton of match NXT has ever produced. Izzy Damon specifically rejected a championship opportunity from Zarya which is why their match remains non-title. Grayson Waller showing up at Tony D'Angelo's home giving the NXT Championship few the personal go-home angle it needed. And the main event question remains whether NXT gives Tony D the championship back or commits to Waller as the centerpiece of the brand. So bottom line here, Halloween Havoc now has more of the chaos than the promises, weapons wild spin the wheel and a genuinely, genuinely personal Waller Tony D feud give the six match card a much stronger identity.

24:28 So some big questions that I have for you Dr. Trey, does Grayson Waller need to retain to establish to this NXT Championship reign or is T.N. Tony D'Angelo the better centerpiece? Man, that's a great question because I have been, I watched the closing same event, I'm like I don't know if I've ever seen two guys fighting in the back of a pickup truck. Like maybe since like, not like the 80s, like the black top bowling and dust in the roads. I mean, that's about as far back as I can remember on that. It's a question for me because I mean, to me, I can watch Grayson Waller and listen to him talk all day long and to me, he's a guy that should be on your main roster somewhere. I mean, he could be smackdowns Ethan Page at the very least.

25:12 And then, but then Tony D, I'm like, do you believe Tony D, I mean, I believe Tony D could be on the main roster, but could he be a star on the main roster in that? I don't know. I'm going to go to Grayson Waller leaning towards him, retaining the title just because like I think if you're trying to rebuild his credibility, he needs that title longer and it just kind of depends on how the company views Tony D's leading. He views Tony D's long term prospects like I don't know if I guess I don't know Tony D's a main event main roster guy yet. You know, he used to be that blue collar tough guy. He could be the Italian hacksaw Jim Duggan in a way on the main roster.

25:52 And I think that would be an okay thing, but I just don't know if I see long term potential in Tony D. Yeah, it's interesting what happens with his career, right? I've always been wondering what's next for Tony D'Angelo, like I just don't, like I look at him as a guy that would fit in the vision. Like I look at this card, I think Kalani and Tony D, this could be the RNXT swan song and say goodbye. But I don't know, like Kalani has a pretty decent path to the main roster because I think she'll be very, very successful. I don't know, like this character that he's gotten now is just kind of a little bland compared to his previous character.

26:33 I mean, this character is basically when Triple H came back from his quad injury. You know, it's like, all right, just good guy, babyface, that weird leather jacket sleeve, but denim jacket. I mean, it's like there's nothing about it other than just trying to be portrayed as a badass. You know, just a tough, badass babyface guy. Like I don't know, like I think the dawn character was more entertaining than this one, but this one seems tougher. So I don't know, but I don't know what other layers you can add onto this to make it more compelling. Like he's not a bad, he's like a, like he is the epitome of when Stephanie used to call people B+ players. He's a B+ guy.

27:15 But in this world, we live in now, what do you do with a B+ guy? Exactly. It's so, I mean, difficult to be successful now in professional wrestling. I mean, look again, we just talked about Ealy Dragon off, who I think is an extremely successful wrestler. He was barely utilized in WWE for the most part of 2026 contract expires ends up in A&W and he could be like a world beater in A&W now. Is Tony D-Ashes O'No? Could be. I mean, he's one of the longest 10-year NXT wrestlers of all time, right? I mean, he's been there since the 2.0 days and that was what, 2021? That's five years. I mean, now, champ was last, you know, his champ was last match before he went to the main roster. I mean, that's how long ago it was, but you know, he's one of those guy like Cashes on it.

27:57 Like the WWE team just never thought of him as a main roster, main event guy, but he was great in NXT and I think that's kind of where they have with Tony D right now. Yeah, it's very, very interesting, like his career path and what happens to him this Saturday and then what happens to him after this, as well. It's amazing if he's NXT Champion, very clear if he's not like, okay, what do we do with Tony D next? Dr. Trey, last question here, which stipulation match has the better chance to steal the show? Weapons Wild or Zilla Fatus? Spend the Wheel match. Man, that's a good one. Because I don't know, is the Weapons Wild just means any Weapons legal? Is that where we're going? Yeah, idea of that. Okay, I'm going to lean into the Zilla, Charlie Dempsey one, because any stipulation, Zilla is so over the top and so entertaining in the, by contrast, Charlie Dempsey is the exact opposite.

28:50 So getting some kind of stipulation involved there, I'm going to lean on that one just because the unknown factor. Like I expect born in heights to be hard hitting and crazy because weapons are everywhere. I'm just going to be interested in this, right now I'm just more curious about what stipulation you could put on that Fatus Dempsey match where both guys can shine. So I'm going to lean on that one because I think those two are the better professional wrestlers where born in heights are the better in ring technicians. I think Zilla in Dempsey are the better overall performers in wrestling. Yeah, I think that's going to be a fun one. I love the Charlie Dempsey's getting this opportunity. I've enjoyed his works since I've seen him back in the NXT UK day. So I'm happy for him to get a shot here with Zilla Fattone.

29:36 I've enjoyed the way that the birthright group has been booked as of late. It's nice to see them not as like this joke and more of a stable that can really kind of hold their own in NXT. All right, Dr. Trey, would that be in said let's close up shop on this week's edition of SRT and get some plugs and sponsors. Either way you can download show at patreon.com/srtupodcast and this to roll those show feed on apples Spotify wherever you download this podcast don't forget to rate review and subscribe. You can follow us individually on X for myself at SRT you Jeff and for Dr. Trey Franklin at the Dr. Trey and of course don't forget to follow show on X at SRT podcast. Would that be in said what is going on in the wonderful world of Dr. Trey Franklin this week? Well like Jeff said you can follow me on X at the Dr. Trey.

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31:08 Back in the day when a former friend of ours Mike Bauer when I used to do the show radio show in Hartford, Connecticut and did a podcast with him for a long time. He used to give me all of his kids candy because the ones that they didn't want their kid to have it would go to the great pumpkin well the great pumpkin was yours truly so which I made out great on all the candy which is always a good thing. So enjoy Halloween if you have young ones use this opportunity to enjoy their time your time with them and just kind of soak it all in because it's going to be a lot of fun. Until next week for Dr. Trifranclin I'm Jeff Pack thank you for making this part of your week this has been the stirrola show.