Oct. 25, 2024

Is The Blackpool Combat Club storyline getting you invested in AEW? | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #767 – 10/24/24

Is The Blackpool Combat Club storyline getting you invested in AEW? | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #767 – 10/24/24

On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:

- -- Is The Blackpool Combat Club storyline getting you invested in AEW?
- -- Is AEW acknowledging the pressure they have been feeling as of late?
- -- Does the latest chapters in the "Bloodline...

On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:

  • -- Is The Blackpool Combat Club storyline getting you invested in AEW?
  • -- Is AEW acknowledging the pressure they have been feeling as of late?
  • -- Does the latest chapters in the "Bloodline storyline" make sense?
  • -- And we preview & predict "NXT Halloween Havoc!"

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It's still.

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Welcome, everybody. Welcome to this week's edition The Star Relta Show,

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episode number seven and sixty seven for October twenty fourth,

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twenty twenty four. Welcome to your NXC Halloween Havoc Preview

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and Predictions edition of s R. T.

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Hugh.

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I am One After Show. I Am Jeff Pack, joined

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every single week by co host the one Only Doctor

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Trey Franklin. Doctor Trey has John Moxley brought you back,

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my friend.

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Ooh uh, brought me back. Let me see, having like

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a refund. So I brought back, like am I getting exchanged?

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Brought you back from life to life.

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I don't know my evan essence now, like that's an

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old reference, but I like John Moxley.

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He's uh.

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I think somebody once called him recently the modern day

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Terry Funk. So yeah, I'm intrigued. I'm playing along. I mean,

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I'm I'm in the game, but I don't know if

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I'm all in.

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So let's talk about it. Blackpool Combat Club storyline is

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really taking over aw It is transcending multiple shows, whether

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it be Dynamite Collision Rampage. From time to time, they

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are really pushing their foot on the gas on this.

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There was a report out earlier or late last week.

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I should say that the original plans for Brian Danielson's

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world title run, which we had heard, was he's got

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to win the title all in and then drop it

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to Darby Allen at Wrussell Dream Tacoma Hometown Boy, give

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it to Darby Allen a run with We had heard

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rumblings about that, I think leading into all In, that

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that was what AW was potentially thinking about. Maybe it

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was post all In. After Danielson won, they obviously changed

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it around. Darby lost the title shot at Grand Slam

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to Moxley. Moxley wants the title at Russell Dreaman. Now

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we're foot on the accelerator with this Blackpool Combat Club storyline,

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and the reason why the change happened is because AW

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reportedly wants to gain some more interest into the product,

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and they're pushing this Blackpool Combat Club storyline to the

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forefront to re engage some fans that may be on

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the fringe or those that are on I guess life

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supporting a way which I think I can almost put

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myself in that basket at times. So the question asked

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doctor Trey Aw is really trying hard. We cannot deny

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that at all. Are they doing a good job sucking

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you back into their product? Though?

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I mean it's got my interest and I think we've

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talked about it. I think I talked about with you

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like one last CO show, like you and I being

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lifelong wrestling fans, love invasion takeover angles because you see

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some alliances you thought you never see. You see some

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intriguing matchups you thought you'd never see. Plus there's always

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mystery involved, whether it's you know, nWo, who's bankrolling the nWo,

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the WCWECW invasion angle, whether it's even like the Ministry

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of Darkness stuff, who's the higher power?

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Like, we love this type of stuff.

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It's what makes wrestling fans cross over that storyline, suspension

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of disbelief with the athleticism professional wrestling.

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We love this stuff.

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So when something's being done and it is being pushed

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to the forefront, yeah, it's gonna get my attention. It's

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going to kind of grab me and go, Okay, where

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are we going with this? Who's involved? Who are the players?

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Where the chess pieces going? So I'm engaged in it,

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But like we've said, we've seen them do so many

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start and stop storyline pushes that it makes you nervous

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that this one might fall flat on his face. I mean,

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we're probably what six weeks into this. They've done a

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good job for the most part, but I'm still waiting

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to see some bigger pieces fall into place, because you know,

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as much as we love the orange cassidyes in the

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Darby Allens of the world, Like when I see a

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bunch of good guys outside waiting to fight them, and

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I see John Silver all five foot five of them

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right there at the forefront, I'm like, is that well

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the top three or four baby faces we have, Like

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that just kind of seems kind of weak if he's

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the guy fighting the good fight. That's like when I've

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referenced nWo last week, I was like, you know, that's

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the l Dandy, the Silver King, you know, those kind

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of guys when the nWo was kind of taking over

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WCW that you really didn't care about if they got

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beat up and destroyed.

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Yeah, you know, it's funny that you mentioned that, And

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that was one of the arguments that we had, was like,

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these are the baby faces that they chose, And I

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was just looking up some numbers that I wanted to

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discuss in regards to viewership when it comes to aw Dynamite,

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and I came across a tweet from Daniel Garcia. He

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had subtweeted Russell Pure on Twitter, which is an account

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I always follow for a lot of news notes coverage

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of professional wrestling. Highly recommend them to everybody. And it's

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just the video of everybody at the beginning of Dynamite

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waiting for the Blackpool Blackpool Combat Club and Daniel Garcia,

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which is something we talked about in the show, and

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Doctor Trey just mentioned subtweeted that and said, quote, say

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what you want about this group, but we're the ones fighting,

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And then he could put in quotes, but what about

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dot dot dot question mark another quote, whereas dot dot

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dot question mark, that's a question for them. They should

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care more. I like that Garcia is addressing that on Twitter,

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but that's what they should address. Storyline wise, it well

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like have Daniel Garcia walk in the hallways, he passes

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by sort of Strickland swerve of why aren't you joining us?

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Like what do you? I thought you were mister Elite wrestling.

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You know they're doing that right now with the elite,

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and you're kind of seeing the young bucks teasing, going

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back and forth like they want to help. I think

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Nicholas Jackson had another line. He's been like these this

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guy for subtle lines during this entire thing. He's like,

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should we go help? Like you hear or maybe it

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was Matt, I don't remember which one. I'm pretty sure

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it was Nick, but anyway, you hear them say should

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we go help? And I think the camera cut out

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and Jack Perry's the one that's being like, no, no, no, no,

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does let it go? But that is something that dismissing

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the storyline, like I like the top Flight, I like

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the Dark Orders doing this, but up until this point,

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why should I give a damn? And then you've got

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Private Party threatening to split up if they lose their

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tag team title shot. And they're the ones that are

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kind of in the forefront of all this with Dani

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Garcia along with Orange Cassie, like those are some of

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the recognizable names. It's basically not a who's who, It's

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a bunch of people that typically get some time on rampage.

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Lord love them, longtime people in aaw like the butcher

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I saw the other night, But you know Captain Sean

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Dean Lord love him, but I'm not thinking he's going

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to be defending aw's hon or over the BCC. And

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to me, Doctor Trey, and we do this a lot

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with the Invasion Angles. We mentioned it in the description

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of it. Yes, we love Invasion angles and professional wrestling,

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but sometimes I feel like it gets to be so

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repetitive that it loses a little bit of luster, because

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I think you can make a case back in April

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that the Elite storyline was a takeover of AW, and

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then they're redoing it again but with a different group

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this time, so that's a concern. I'm gonna sound like

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an old head here, but this, to me, Doctor Trey

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reminds me so much of the way WW handled the

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nWo angle. It's a bunch of mid tier, not your

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top talent stars defending the honor of the promotion while

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the top talent stars are nowhere to be found and

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hopefully get integrated into it soon. This is one of

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the closest early stage nWo storylines I could remember in

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some time. I mean, it really really mirrors it, and

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we really don't have justification as to why the BCC

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is doing it. Other than the fact that they're like

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second tired of all elite wrestling the way that it's gone.

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But there are some holes in this right now. It's intriguing,

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but there are some holes in this. And because of

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past practices, whether it was who is behind the Devil

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Mask or are the elite taking over? Aw, there is

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some optimism and pessimism when it comes to as E

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as a fan, Should I get really invested into what

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they're doing right now? Yeah?

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You actually mentioned a great thing there when you're talking

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about the nWo and all thats of in the elite

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and this whole thing with the BCC and the elite.

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If you remember when the nWo took over, the Horsemen

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were still there and they were kind of the heel

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faction and you.

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Didn't it was them in like the Dungeon of Doom.

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Yeah, and you didn't know where their allegiance was going

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to fall, like were they going to side with the

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NW or are they going to stick out for WCW.

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That's kind of where we're at with this storyline as well,

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where where does the elif fall in? But you know

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it is questionable because I mean, at least when the

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nWo first kind of came in, there was stinging Luger around,

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and then you had the Harlem He's so there were

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still some of the big, the top guys. But this

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is literally, I mean, I guess you can call Darby

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Allen a top guy in the company. Think Orange Cassidy's

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upper mid card, you know, top of the mid card,

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you know, food chain.

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Daniel Garcia is up.

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There a little bit too, But everybody else, I mean,

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it's like the BCC against aew Dark for the most

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part here, Yeah, I mean, there's no there's no Rickochet,

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Like Ricochet has nothing going on.

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Why is he not involved in this?

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Well he's going off for Takashka.

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Okay, But still, like if if darb I mean, if

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if Daniel Garcia can fight MJF on one side, you know,

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half heartedly, that fuse kind of a little bit over

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because we moved MJFF and Cole, but you got Garcia

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over here. Private party is challenging for tag Belts and

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they can still be involved in this.

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Why can't ricks sh they do both sides?

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You know.

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Why can't FTR, who's doing nothing, you know, be involved.

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Why can't the outrunners be involved? Why can't we see

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some more of these top you know, upper upper mid

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card moorderline Maine event talents get involved. Now once again,

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the BCC's only got four people. If you camorn a five,

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it's five people against the entire roster. That's why it

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does give you very much early nWo vibes because so

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far those five people are beating the crap out of everybody.

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So it does make you a little nervous, but it

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does have those shades of NW And especially if we

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get you know, Seae McMahon or Ted Debiossi to show up,

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then we'll we'll be really right there.

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I think that's like the thing that to the sea

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mcman point, Like, that's the thing that I'm really like

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banking on right now because outside of anything that's going

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to shock me surprise me, like making a holy crap,

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I can't believe this happened. This to me is just

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a solid storyline to help build the next wave of

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top stars in AW. Obviously, right now the focal point

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is Orange Cassidy. That is the focal point. It would

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but I would be under the impression right now that

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Orange Cassidy is going to be the title contender to

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John Moxley at full gear in late November. Like, that's

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the direction things are going. They're working on building Orange,

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They're working on building Darby Allen, maybe Daniel Garcia. Like

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that is the point of this storyline. And that's great,

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and it's it's engaging, but you gotta you gotta do

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these little things that make me go, man, this is

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this is intriguing. I think there are some intriguing things

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about the storyline. The Orange Cassidy. Everybody wants him to

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be a leader, but he doesn't see himself as a leader.

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Every time he gets in with the best in the ring,

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with the BCC, he becomes a changed person. He doesn't

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really want to do this, but they keep like taking

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shots at his armor, taking out Chuck Taylor. And you

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saw his reaction at the end of dynam I thought

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was really good. I'm a big Orange Cassidy fan and

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believer in him. The other thing is, and I only

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noticed this on X the next day, and I did

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not notice this during the actual viewing of Dynamite when

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as I was more focused on Claudio Wheeler. DA puts

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the steel chair on Chuck Taylor's ankle, which we all

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know his careers would presume to be over. He's now

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working backstage and his ankle is the reason why puts

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it on the ankle for them to smash it. Claudio

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takes it out, puts the chair on Chuck Taylor's neck,

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and Wheeler Youda is going back to this conflicted person.

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He's like like freaking out a little bit, putting his

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hands on over his head. They obviously smashed the chair

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over or close the chair shut. With the stomp on

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Chuck Taylor injures his neck, and Wheeler da is very,

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very conflicted, And I wish commentary picked that up a

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little bit more. I don't know if that is supposedly

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supposed to or supposed to be an easter egg for

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us to notice and then discuss and be like, hey,

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Wheelers not fully on board with all this right now,

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but they're not. Like I wouldn't notice if it wasn't

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for X or the next day. I was too focused on, uh,

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you know, Claudio doing this thing. I did not notice Wheeler.

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And that is the point where like commentary should potentially

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say something like, hey, does Wheeler look conflicted right now?

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Those are some subtleties that that I'm digging right now,

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Doctor Trey. Outside of that, I like the vignettes. I

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like the stuff that's starting on Dynamite and Rampage and Collision.

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I like the weird, crazy music. I like where they're

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putting them out in the desert and riding in the

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pickup truck. The riddles of John Moxley. Sometimes they go

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a little bit too far off the range for my liking.

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But those are some things that I'm like, Okay, this

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is good. Can I can I get behind it? I'm

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still like kind of dangling on my foot above the

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pool a little bit.

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Yeah, when you mentioned some of John Moxy's is going

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off the rails, all I can member is that he'll

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run when he had the gas mask. Yeah, Like, Okay,

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there was some meandering ramblings there, and that was again

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like who else would be a really intriguing higher power

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for this group? And I'm like, wouldn't be really awesome

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if they revealed that Renee Puckhead is the person behind

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this whole takeover?

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Yeah? It was me, Tony was me all along.

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It was me all along, Marina, Like Roderick Strong's like

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right there with his wife now too, you know, but yeah,

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like I'm enjoying it. I like the way they're shooting

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some of this stuff. I like some of their placements,

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Like it's not always right at the beginning, it's not

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always right at the end, but there's always some kind

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of impact, which then makes you want to watch the

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entire show to see when it's going to happen, which

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is smart on their part. That's one of the things

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I've knocked them about for the betterment of four and

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a half years is placement of stuff on the show,

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because it is a television show at the end of

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the day. But yeah, the Wheeler stuff, I caught that

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cause I was like, oh, yeah, I remember Wheeler was

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in Best Friends, and that's why I think he would

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be conflicted. But you know, right now you got this

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is Trent hurt or just not being used right now.

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We really haven't gotten full yeah.

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Because we saw this on a Trent and Don Kallis

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and then Trent disappeared, and I think the question mark

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meant where is he?

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We don't know where he went, but to.

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Me, it's still you're you're needing that next person on

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the baby face side to get involved. And Swurst tied

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up with Hurt Syndicate, Slash Business, slash LLC. I don't

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really know what their name is right now, you know.

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So you got Osprey and Fletcher tied up. Adam Cole

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now has this whole United Kingdom uh a disputed Kingdom.

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The thing, you know, whatever it is with m JF

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So like.

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You Yeah, one minute he says I've got to cover

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the next minute, undisputed Kingdoms.

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Out the next week, you know.

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And and Adam Copeland still her the Blackpool Combat Club

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are not gonna be the house of Blacker if you

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thought for baby faces buddies calling out Adam Colet so like,

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I don't really, I mean, it's just you have a heel.

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Faction and and the purpose of this and you can.

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Go back to the old, the old uh wwf uh

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oh what was that show they had where they had

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the Legends of the Ring.

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Thing uh at the round Table?

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Yeah?

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And National Wrestling Yeah.

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And but you know, Kevin Nash said the purpose of

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the nWo was to build baby faces.

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And that's the.

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Purpose of any heel group is to build baby faces.

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And now you have a heel faction that is borderline

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the cool kids, much like the NBO was but this

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is your chance to build up baby faces, and they're

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starting it with you know, their pillars, so to speak.

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But we also need some meat, we need some of

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the With the top guys get involved in this, I

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think that's when you'll see it come to full fruition.

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But right now, I mean argue, your top five baby

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faces in the company are off doing other stuff. You know,

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maybe Darby's exception, but really, I mean when you look

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at the other the Swerves and the Ospreys and the

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Ricochets and the O'shay's and the you know whatever, they're

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all off doing other things and kind of ignoring this

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whole BCC thing. And then with Jack Perry keeps stopping them,

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does that somehow put Jack Perry.

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Into the BCC at some point too?

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If if he's the one that keeps the elite from

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getting involved and we find out that maybe it's Jack

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Perry behind.

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All of this, oh god, yeah, that would be like

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my mind would be blown if it was Jack Perry

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and Shane McMann. It was basically be everything that I

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don't like. So should it have been? Like I dig

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that they're trying to establish some new top level talent,

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and I think the ones that they're identifying here is Orange, Cassidy,

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Darby Allen, and Daniel Garcia. They want these guys to

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be elevated from the storyline, and I'm totally down and

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dig it with that. But I think the one thing

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that we're having our trouble with, because we keep going

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going back to it, Doctor Trey, is should they have

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started this all out with a very well established babyface.

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You can make a case that that was Brian Danielson.

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He was put on the shelf, but should have someone

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else who was more established, whether it be Swert of Strickland, MJF.

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Jay White, whoever. Should they have been the ones that

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carried the flag to begin with, and then maybe they

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passed it down the line to Darby, Orange, Daniel Garcia.

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See, I think I'm okay with this with the way

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they've done this so far, because with the start, because

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of the fact that you know it's Moxley, it's Danielson,

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you have the Wheeler turn involved there. I'm fine with it.

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What I didn't like was they didn't really have I mean,

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you had a little bit of the Darby stuff, a

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Darby losing the title shot, but like there wasn't anybody

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really in place to kind of jump it up to

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the next level. I mean, you literally ended the career

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of Brian Danielson. That's a pretty big thing, and your

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follow up is Garcia and then and taking out Chuck

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Taylor like that feels like a drop off to me.

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So I felt like they should have built upon it,

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and instead they kind of it kind of went down

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a little bit on who they're going after, because going

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after Danilson is kind of like you know, being uh,

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you know, your eating your own. It wasn't really like

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they were taking out an aw guy. They were kind

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of taking out one of their own guys. So I

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wish they'd had somebody else in line to take up

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the flag that was maybe a little higher on the

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food chain than what we're getting right now. Like to me,

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this is kind of like, I guess the appetizer before

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we get to the main course. I just don't want

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my stuffed kept mushrooms to be too slimy that I

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don't really I lose my appetite.

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So speaking of programming, speaking of wanting to keep us

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locked in on dynamite rampage collision. This is the main

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storyline of all the wrestling right now? Is it getting

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us invested, is it keeping us around? And how are

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they building the rest of the show out? And I

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think that's kind of a little bit of the concern here.

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So I look at viewership for AW Dynamite on Wednesday

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night and it was six hundred and thirty seven thousand

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viewers tuned into AW Dynamite last night. Eighteen to forty

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nine age group was at zero point one nine rating

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NXT the night before seven or and two thousand, so

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more viewers obviously tuned in overall for NXT the eighteen

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to forty nine point one six, so a little bit

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lower than AW Dynamite, but more viewers tuned into NXT,

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and usually a year ago at this time those numbers

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and prior to all this were reversed in AW Ninamite

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was typically like in the eight hundreds. So they've seen

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a considerable drop off, and they're doing the storyline, they're

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changing their stuff up, they're giving it a shot. I'm

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noticing that they're acknowledging that the current climate of all

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lee wrestling is not good. There are plenty of photos

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in social media that notice at any point where it's

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the building is half full. I saw, I saw a

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picture from and video of last night's AW Dynamite, and

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I mean it wasn't it wasn't even like three quarters full.

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I mean it was really really bad. They were very,

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very scattered all over the place. People are pointing out

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the Adam Cole, mjf rogerck Strong segment where there was

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like a lack of reaction at the end of it,

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and they are absolutely right. You could have heard a

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pin drop in that that is concerning AW is pushing

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tickets for upcoming events during their show a lot more

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or at least a lot more noticeable than I could

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ever remember prior to that. It would just be like,

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you know, we have some upcoming events on AW tick

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ticks dot com. Go down below and you could scan

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the QR code and join us. In a couple of

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weeks now they're running like thirty second spots on Dynamite

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Collision Rampage to tune in, and you're also noticing that

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they're promoting upcoming match and for future matches for future

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Dynamites Rampages Collision. The amount of times I heard about

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Shelton Benjamin Versus of strigling a week from tonight on

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Friday Night Dynamite. I think they added another match as well,

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Private Party in Young Bucks, which I like. That's well good.

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That goes back to like the old days of AW.

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They're promoting matches two weeks out. I think first Atlanta

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Morra and Mercedes Monett or No Camill is going to

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take place in a couple weeks, Mariah May and Anna Ja.

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It's got to take place in a couple of weeks.

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So they're really doing this. They're acknowledging this from a

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storyline standpoint, they're acknowledging this from a promotion standpoint. Is

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it desperate, Doctor Trey or do we applaud them for

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doing this?

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See?

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I applauded for this because that's something else that we

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had brought up like a month ago, was the promotion,

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Like you don't see the AAW guys out on any

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of the mainstream media stuff. You don't really see other

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than the occasional Facebook posts about upcoming shows, like you have.

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To go to the website.

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Most wrestling fans, I hate to say this is going

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to sound crass, but are kind of lazy. Just let

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me know when you're gonna be in my town at

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some point where I don't have to go to I

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don't have to go on your website and search when

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you're gonna be in my area.

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Let me know when the upcoming shows are.

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That was always a staple of w CW, Nitro and

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even WW back in the day, was Hey, next week,

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we're gonna be here. In two weeks, we're gonna be here,

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in three weeks, we're gonna be here. Tickets are still

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on sale, and you'd be like, oh crap, this show's

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been pretty good.

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I'd like to go check it out in person.

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You know, you kind of got to hit a lot

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of wrestling fans over the head with information, like, you know,

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the diehards, Yeah, the ones who watch being the elite

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and we're watching Dark and you know everything else, and

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the ones that's stuck around have stuck around for rampage,

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Like those people are always going to be in the note.

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But your casual fans just kind of want it laid

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out in front of them, simple and easy when you're

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gonna be out there. I think it's a good move

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on their part, because, hey, if you're telling me Swerve

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and Shelton's and you know, next week, do we get

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the debut of Bobby Lashley also liked, might have to

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tune in to see that. If you're a Chris Statlander

472
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fan or a Camille fan, and you know that they're

473
00:24:05.519 --> 00:24:06.079
gonna be going in.

474
00:24:06.119 --> 00:24:09.039
Those are two big, strong women fighting it out. Hey,

475
00:24:09.079 --> 00:24:09.960
i'mot to check that out.

476
00:24:09.960 --> 00:24:13.240
So I think it's smart on their part to announce

477
00:24:13.279 --> 00:24:15.799
stuff like that, you know, Anna Jay and Mariah May. Hey,

478
00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:17.519
I think I may I might even sit by the

479
00:24:17.519 --> 00:24:18.440
bay and.

480
00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:19.119
Watch this play.

481
00:24:20.079 --> 00:24:22.960
These are all good things for them on the marketing

482
00:24:23.079 --> 00:24:26.319
end to kind of put it out there instead of

483
00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:29.440
just you know, waiting around. I mean, we still see

484
00:24:29.519 --> 00:24:31.680
raw do that Like, Hey, next week, we're gonna you know,

485
00:24:31.799 --> 00:24:33.960
during the show next week, you and I head to

486
00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:37.279
head toe to toe. You know, stuff like that that's intrigued.

487
00:24:37.400 --> 00:24:40.359
It's creating that hook to keep the viewership around and

488
00:24:40.400 --> 00:24:41.440
have them coming back for more.

489
00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:44.640
So I like what they're doing. I like that they're trying.

490
00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:49.079
The one thing that I noticed on this past week

491
00:24:49.400 --> 00:24:52.799
loop of when we last spoke about aw programming, Doctor Trey,

492
00:24:53.200 --> 00:24:56.000
is if you want me to tune into your show,

493
00:24:56.200 --> 00:24:58.079
and you want me to be invested, if you want

494
00:24:58.160 --> 00:25:01.000
me to pay my hard earned money to sit down

495
00:25:01.000 --> 00:25:03.200
in your show. When you come into my town and

496
00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:09.359
support aaw you cannot run multiple matches with jobbers like

497
00:25:09.519 --> 00:25:12.599
you just can't. I'm pretty sure. And everything kind of

498
00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:14.599
blends together when it comes to a W programming, which

499
00:25:14.599 --> 00:25:21.799
sometimes is not a good thing. Brian Cage and Lance

500
00:25:21.920 --> 00:25:25.759
Archer had a tag team match against two jobbers. The

501
00:25:25.759 --> 00:25:29.160
House of Black had a trios match against three jobbers.

502
00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:33.480
There is nothing outside of the Action Andretti Christ Jericho

503
00:25:33.559 --> 00:25:35.960
match that makes me ever think that I want to

504
00:25:35.960 --> 00:25:37.599
sit down and tune in and watch the House of

505
00:25:37.640 --> 00:25:42.319
Black destroy three job jobbers or Brian Cage and Lance

506
00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:45.319
Archer beat up two jobbers like that to me does

507
00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:49.720
not do anything for me. There's other talent on the roster,

508
00:25:49.799 --> 00:25:51.759
and maybe they're doing this doctor Tree because of the

509
00:25:51.759 --> 00:25:56.920
babyfacenario with the BCC angle that can be better utilized

510
00:25:57.319 --> 00:25:59.440
in the spot like make it worth my time, make

511
00:25:59.480 --> 00:26:01.839
it worth my my interest. Do you want to do

512
00:26:01.880 --> 00:26:04.319
a jobber match here and there? Fine, but to do

513
00:26:04.359 --> 00:26:08.799
it on Rampage, Collision and Dynamite This past week multiple times,

514
00:26:09.240 --> 00:26:11.799
I'm like you, what are they doing? I mean, they

515
00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:14.680
have a roster of one hundred and fifty people. Why

516
00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:17.720
am I getting this jobber match? And especially with a

517
00:26:17.799 --> 00:26:21.000
tendance down and viewership down, that to me in twenty

518
00:26:21.079 --> 00:26:23.680
twenty four doesn't make sense. And you and I grew

519
00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:26.319
up on nothing but jobber matches on television, and we

520
00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:29.000
may disagree on this, but I'm like, at this point

521
00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:33.000
when I watch Raw, NXT and SmackDown, there is value

522
00:26:33.559 --> 00:26:36.720
to nearly every single match that takes place on one

523
00:26:36.759 --> 00:26:40.599
of those three shows in WWA, and that is amazing

524
00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:43.920
and hard to come by. And why is an AW

525
00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:47.039
doing the same thing? So that is a problem that

526
00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:49.240
I've had with AW programming as of land. I'm like,

527
00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:51.759
why are they doing all these jobber matches knowing viewership

528
00:26:51.839 --> 00:26:53.200
and ticket sales are down?

529
00:26:54.720 --> 00:26:57.400
Sorry, my wife's laughing. I think we just invented the

530
00:26:58.079 --> 00:26:59.799
first drinking game. One answer to you, I think you

531
00:26:59.799 --> 00:27:02.359
say jobber like twelve times perfect.

532
00:27:02.640 --> 00:27:03.079
Perfect.

533
00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:05.519
So now we have a jobb or drinking game. So

534
00:27:05.559 --> 00:27:07.160
anytime we throw out the word jobber, take a.

535
00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:11.000
Drink, ye chop squad, does that count.

536
00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:11.119
A little bit?

537
00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:15.039
Uh So when it came to those squash matches, see

538
00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:18.720
I went in there when squashed out jobber, I didn't

539
00:27:18.759 --> 00:27:21.880
mind the archer Cage one because that was one of

540
00:27:21.960 --> 00:27:23.599
the I mean, they're they're gonna try to build them

541
00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:25.519
up as a tag team, so you got to try

542
00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:28.799
to show them just doing like crazy ridiculous power moves

543
00:27:28.839 --> 00:27:31.480
to get fans going, oh crap, that these guys should

544
00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:35.680
be pretty cool. House of Black though, Like we don't

545
00:27:35.720 --> 00:27:39.039
need a trio It was a trios match against three

546
00:27:39.079 --> 00:27:41.519
no names to lead to a Buddy Murphy singles match.

547
00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:44.680
Makes no sense there if that worst case there, put

548
00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:46.880
Buddy Murphy and getting in Leo Russian there and let

549
00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:50.000
Buddy Murphy beat Leo Russia then challenge Adam Cole to

550
00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:54.480
have them do a jobber match like that, like doesn't

551
00:27:54.519 --> 00:27:55.960
make sense to me. It's just kind of a waste

552
00:27:55.960 --> 00:27:57.599
of time. We're just have Buddy Murphy come out and

553
00:27:57.640 --> 00:28:00.839
call out Adam Cole backstage somewhere. It's kind of a

554
00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:03.920
waste of time. Like I get it if you're trying

555
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:06.160
to establish something new for a kind of a new

556
00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:08.599
character or a new team or something like that, But

557
00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:12.960
what's this established team and they've been around your show

558
00:28:13.079 --> 00:28:15.400
for two three years.

559
00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:16.319
It's it's it's just.

560
00:28:16.359 --> 00:28:19.400
Complete waste and those that's when you get frustrated. Like

561
00:28:19.920 --> 00:28:22.359
Raw will have them occasionally, but if they do it,

562
00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:25.480
it's because they're trying to build up a new character,

563
00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:28.640
new team something like that. You know, think when bron

564
00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:31.559
Breaker debut or when you know, Goother or came to

565
00:28:31.559 --> 00:28:33.799
the main roster, some of those guys, you know, it's like, oh,

566
00:28:34.279 --> 00:28:36.200
we're having them beat up some note name guys and

567
00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:39.319
some Kira tizauas of the world, So going to kind

568
00:28:39.319 --> 00:28:41.839
of get them over, Like that's that's what the bottom

569
00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:44.359
of your roster is for, is to be the filler

570
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:47.240
to sell their ass off for the big monsters, to

571
00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:50.599
make them look even more impressive. So it's to me,

572
00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:52.599
it's just like it's almost like when they do some

573
00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:54.960
that like that. The House of Black one really pissed

574
00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:57.559
me off because I'm like, did somebody like not make

575
00:28:57.599 --> 00:28:59.279
it to the venue in time and we just had

576
00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:01.400
three guys and catering. We're like, hey, you guys got

577
00:29:01.400 --> 00:29:02.839
there and fight House of Black real quick.

578
00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:03.680
Uh.

579
00:29:04.119 --> 00:29:05.759
It just it just doesn't make sense to me for

580
00:29:05.799 --> 00:29:09.359
those guys Archer and Cage or as I saw Shane

581
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:14.359
Helms call them on Twitter, Cage against the Machine, which

582
00:29:14.359 --> 00:29:17.480
I actually dug that name. I didn't mind that one,

583
00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:19.599
but House that House of Black one was just just

584
00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:21.400
ridiculous and there's no need for it.

585
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:24.960
You know what's wild is that AW was the ones

586
00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:27.720
that put so much thought and effort from one show

587
00:29:27.799 --> 00:29:29.880
to another back when it was just dynamite, And maybe

588
00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:32.240
that's the case here. Do you think AW is just

589
00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:34.559
overall creatively exhausted, Doctor Trey?

590
00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:39.839
I think they have kind of spread themselves too thin

591
00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:41.680
where there's not.

592
00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:45.559
Kind of a direct building program.

593
00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:47.799
You know, you see in w W you have NXC,

594
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:49.720
the guys get built at NXT, they come to the

595
00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:52.920
main roster, they get a chance to establish themselves, see

596
00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:54.960
if they're if they can get over. If they can, great,

597
00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:57.359
we're gonna keep pushing you. If they can't get over, okay,

598
00:29:57.400 --> 00:29:58.880
down to the you know, kind of the middle to

599
00:29:58.880 --> 00:30:02.119
the bottom of the roster. There's not really like a

600
00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:07.039
set roadmap for AW establishing talent. And then plus, when

601
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:11.319
you're putting guys on two and three different shows a week,

602
00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:14.200
you're going to run out of stuff for them to

603
00:30:14.359 --> 00:30:17.519
do a times that you know makes sense and keeps

604
00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:20.400
the creative fresh. Otherwise it's just you get kind of

605
00:30:20.440 --> 00:30:23.000
burned out, Like Okay, well, House of Black has been

606
00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:26.119
all over the map, you know, in their time on

607
00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:28.759
the roster, they've been healed, they've been babyfaces. You had

608
00:30:28.799 --> 00:30:33.440
the great stuff with you know, Anna Jay and oh

609
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:34.160
what's her name?

610
00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:36.279
Sky sky Blue?

611
00:30:36.559 --> 00:30:38.799
That was that was some fun stuff, you know, not

612
00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:41.599
Hannah Ja, it was sky Blue and Julia Hart.

613
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:42.640
Julia Hart.

614
00:30:42.680 --> 00:30:45.200
Yeah, they have some great stuff there and then they

615
00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:46.799
kind of it's kind of falling off the map. And

616
00:30:46.839 --> 00:30:48.799
then you see one week you see Brody King fighting

617
00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:51.519
with Darby Allen and and shaking hands with him. But

618
00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:54.319
then you know, Buddy Matthews and they comes down and

619
00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:57.920
calls it Adam Cole, who's another baby face? Like, I

620
00:30:58.039 --> 00:31:00.519
don't think they have a set game plan all the time.

621
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:03.240
Where I think that's where WWE is always ahead of them,

622
00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:06.359
is that there's always a plan in place for stuff.

623
00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:08.799
I think AAW's lacking in that foresight.

624
00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:11.400
If you told us a month ago that Chris Stallion

625
00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:14.279
or Adam Cole would be babyfaces on the AW roster,

626
00:31:14.359 --> 00:31:17.079
I think we would have like been like, you're crazy.

627
00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:18.920
But that's the world that we live in right now.

628
00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:23.200
The amount of back and forth on babyface to heal,

629
00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:27.359
Heal the babyface and no rhyme nor reason anymore. It's

630
00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:31.799
like this really hokey, herky jerky type of creative. It's

631
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:36.519
been bad for aw really, it really has been bad.

632
00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:40.880
And I like that they're acknowledging some things, but that's

633
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:43.279
like one thing you need to tighten up. There is

634
00:31:43.799 --> 00:31:48.440
pleased and do not have any more squash matches on

635
00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:54.000
your programming, Tony Kahn, sincerely, Jeff and Doctor Trey speaking

636
00:31:54.039 --> 00:31:58.039
of storylines that are progressing rather well. Doctor Trey is

637
00:31:58.319 --> 00:32:01.200
on SmackDown right now. Also carried It's over to Raw

638
00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:05.319
on Monday. I wrote down this note after watching SmackDown

639
00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:07.680
where I was like, Okay, I want to talk about

640
00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:10.480
this on the show because as of right now it's

641
00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:13.960
not making sense. And then Monday happen, I'm like, oh,

642
00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:17.480
it's starting to make sense. I was going to sit

643
00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:20.680
here and ask you does the Roman reigns Jimmy Uso

644
00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:23.680
storyline with jay Uso make sense so far? And I

645
00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:28.519
thought coming out of SmackDown really didn't because why would

646
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:32.440
jay Uso listen to his brother after they had a

647
00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:36.079
few rustle Mania match Why would he give him the

648
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:39.599
time of day? And they have that backstage vignette with

649
00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:43.680
Jimmy and Roman arriving to the arena where Jay smiles

650
00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:46.799
at his brother, turns to Roman and straight face and

651
00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:48.720
then Roman says, you know, we're all proud of you,

652
00:32:48.799 --> 00:32:52.359
and you know, Jay says, no yeat and then walks away.

653
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:54.680
And he had a great segment with Solosaka to start

654
00:32:54.759 --> 00:32:57.839
on the show, but it was like, why is Jay

655
00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:01.319
involved at any point right now? Then you fast forward

656
00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:03.599
to Monday and the New blood Line costs Jay Usa

657
00:33:03.640 --> 00:33:07.519
the Intercontinental Championship, with bron Breaker now retaining that championship

658
00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:10.160
for a second reign, and I'm like, oh, We're We're

659
00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:14.440
getting somewhere right now. So I have answered my own

660
00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:17.039
question here based on what we're seeing, but I want

661
00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:18.960
to get your thoughts on this. From what we've seen

662
00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:22.000
right now with Roman reigns, Jay Uso and Jimmy Usso,

663
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:24.920
is the storyline that is building towards some sort of

664
00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:29.759
rekindling reunion of the original blood line to take on

665
00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:32.440
the new blood line? Is it making sense so far

666
00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:34.880
based on everything that got Jay Uso away from the

667
00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:36.319
old blood line.

668
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:41.240
For me, not really, because I got the stuff on

669
00:33:41.279 --> 00:33:43.079
SmackDown made sense to me, Like he.

670
00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:45.480
Didn't really want to interact with his brother, you know

671
00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:47.440
that much. He didn't want to be a part of it.

672
00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:49.400
I didn't even understand why he was on the show

673
00:33:49.559 --> 00:33:52.160
because he's the Interconinal champion on Raw, so why is

674
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:52.880
he on SmackDown?

675
00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:53.920
So that bothered me.

676
00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:58.200
The Solo stuff, I was like, Okay, I mean everybody

677
00:33:58.240 --> 00:34:00.960
points out Jimmy and Jay are twin, but Solo is

678
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:04.119
his little brother. So I mean I could get why

679
00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:07.119
he'd be torn, but then to come back on Raw

680
00:34:07.319 --> 00:34:10.280
and have the new bloodline costs in the arcndent title

681
00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:13.039
and that be the reason why he decides to join

682
00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:16.639
back up with Rome and Jimmy doesn't make any sense

683
00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:19.360
to me because then that means to me, the Intercontinental

684
00:34:19.400 --> 00:34:22.440
title is more important to him than anybody in his family.

685
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:28.239
So I'm a little just off centered here with this,

686
00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:31.320
Like it just doesn't make a ton of sense to me.

687
00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:34.719
For Jaden, Now go, yeah, you know what they caused

688
00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:37.440
me an oc intercondinalent title, so I'm back with you guys,

689
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:41.760
Like that just doesn't seem like a thing somebody would

690
00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:45.159
do for family. You know, if he could say, if

691
00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:47.760
he comes out and says, look, I'll help you guys,

692
00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:50.800
because I owe them, but don't forget I owe you guys. Also,

693
00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:53.480
if he does it like that, that'll hook.

694
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:53.960
Me a little bit better.

695
00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:56.320
But if he just, you know, pretends like all is forgiven,

696
00:34:56.920 --> 00:34:58.159
then I'm gonna have an issue with it.

697
00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:01.239
So I get your points. And I think that this

698
00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:04.199
is like the first storyline in WI in sometime where

699
00:35:04.719 --> 00:35:07.800
there's a little bit of criticism that can go its

700
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:11.320
way because of the things that you're saying, because there

701
00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:13.039
is part of me that's like, okay, I could see

702
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:15.480
it making sense, but there's part of me that's going,

703
00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:19.119
why does Jay Uson want to integrate himself in this

704
00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:23.239
entire thing? Like what's it matter to him? I would

705
00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:24.360
have liked to see in a little bit of a

706
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:27.159
deeper build going to it. And I think I'm coming

707
00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:30.599
from the position Doctor Tray. Today is October twenty fourth.

708
00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:34.199
I'm thinking that this is leading towards wargames in about

709
00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:35.880
a month's time. We've talked about this for some time,

710
00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:37.239
and maybe I would have liked to seen a bit

711
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:40.519
of a little bit of a longer stretch here. Friday

712
00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:43.400
SmackDown will be intriguing. If Roman Jimmy and Jay and

713
00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:45.440
the new Bloodline are all there to see if this

714
00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:48.960
carries forward again. If there is no pickup on SmackDown,

715
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:51.960
that'll be disappointing because okay, what was the point of Monday.

716
00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:56.480
I tend to believe that there will be. I don't

717
00:35:56.960 --> 00:35:59.880
know if they have enough time to try to convince

718
00:35:59.920 --> 00:36:03.599
it one right now dot true, because I can't theoretically

719
00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:07.800
think of a situation where I'm like, Okay, they got

720
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:10.199
me on this one, they got me on the Union.

721
00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:14.559
I'm pumped, I'm psyched. This makes sense other than like,

722
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:17.639
and this is gonna sound so extremely lame, but I

723
00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:22.800
guess Jimmy and Roman need to almost apologize to Jay

724
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:25.960
or maybe this brings back Paul Hayman. There has to

725
00:36:26.039 --> 00:36:31.119
be some sort of acknowledgment that what took place previously

726
00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:33.639
was a mistake. They made a mistake, and at the

727
00:36:33.719 --> 00:36:35.599
end of the day, they're bonded by blood and they're

728
00:36:35.679 --> 00:36:39.119
the original bloodline and they need to defend their families honor. Like,

729
00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:41.840
I don't know if what I'm positioning you can get

730
00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:44.000
us there. But this is some a little bit of

731
00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:47.079
uncharted waters for WWE right now, because they've got a

732
00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:50.639
storyline that fans can really you know, like you and

733
00:36:50.679 --> 00:36:54.280
I criticize basically, so.

734
00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:57.519
I got a little bit a fancy booking idea that might.

735
00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:00.679
Let me ask you you have a jobber involved?

736
00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:03.840
Uh kind of.

737
00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:09.119
He did lose recently, so SmackDown comes out new blood

738
00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:15.559
lines in the ring. Jay comes out by himself basically, hey,

739
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:17.440
you guys, coustmond your cons I don't I want some

740
00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:21.039
revenge you know, I want to fight youah blah blah blah.

741
00:37:21.159 --> 00:37:23.960
They'll basically say, hey, you know me and you know Solo,

742
00:37:24.119 --> 00:37:26.719
me and Jacob or you me and Jacob Fato against

743
00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:29.039
you and whoever you want to bring whoever you want

744
00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:31.079
to be your partner, thinking that's gonna be Jimmy, think

745
00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:35.639
it's gonna be Roman. Whatever goes backstage, Jimmy approaches him,

746
00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:37.719
Jay's like, no, I don't need your help.

747
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:38.280
I got this.

748
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:42.199
I don't trust you guys that his mystery partner, Sammy's ain't.

749
00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:46.239
So he gets Sammy and Jay against Solo and Jacob,

750
00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:49.840
and then Sammy becomes the voice of reason and tells Jay, look,

751
00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:52.199
at the end of the day, those two guys are

752
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:52.800
your family.

753
00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:55.000
We need to patch this up.

754
00:37:55.079 --> 00:37:57.719
And then that you kind of go from there where

755
00:37:57.719 --> 00:38:00.679
it's Sammy and Jimmy or see me Sammy and Jay

756
00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:04.920
kind of aligning with them early on, like kind of

757
00:38:05.159 --> 00:38:08.320
rekilling the alignment with them, because Sammy's the voice of reason.

758
00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:10.440
Sammy's the one who I mean, seriously, how many times

759
00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:12.239
has Ko turned against him over the years and Sammy

760
00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:14.800
Dewai always ends up forgiving him. So Sammy would be

761
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:17.719
the one to kind of pull all this back together

762
00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:21.960
as the voice of reason because you know, he's still

763
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:23.880
the honorary OOZ true.

764
00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:27.400
That is true. So I like it. I like that

765
00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:32.639
there's some fantasy booking involved there. It's strange because this

766
00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:36.840
is the Bloodline storyline has been so good, right Doctor Trey,

767
00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:40.400
that the split that took place, whether it be Sammy,

768
00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:43.079
whether it be Jay, Jay and Roman and Jimmy and

769
00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:45.119
all this stuff, it made always made a ton of

770
00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:48.320
sense getting them all back together, even when take back

771
00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:51.039
one like Jimmy was the one that convinced Jay to

772
00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:53.519
turn on the Bloodline and then Jimmy turned on Jay

773
00:38:53.559 --> 00:38:56.280
and reunited with the blood Line. That was a part

774
00:38:56.320 --> 00:38:59.480
of the Bloodline storyline that never really made a lot

775
00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:02.440
of sense. And I think every time that there is

776
00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:05.719
a rekindling or reunion. The fans will want to see it.

777
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:08.679
They will pop, they will go absolutely crazy. But from

778
00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:12.280
a storyline perspective, I think we sometimes creatively puts themselves

779
00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:14.960
in a corner where it's a little bit tough coming out.

780
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:18.639
Of Yeah, I mean, but at the end of the day,

781
00:39:18.639 --> 00:39:23.800
like for us, nostalgic kind of wins out in the

782
00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:25.760
sense of we want those We want see those four

783
00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:29.480
guys back together at some points, so we'll suspend our

784
00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:32.719
disbelief on the story just for the sake of the

785
00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:33.639
good that comes out.

786
00:39:33.719 --> 00:39:34.880
I mean, you know that.

787
00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:36.639
What you just said reminds me of I hate to

788
00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:38.880
cut you off. Go ahead, because I just saw this

789
00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:40.599
recently online. I don't know if it was like an

790
00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:43.519
anniversary of the moment or something like that, but from

791
00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:46.280
like two thousand and two to two thousand and five,

792
00:39:46.960 --> 00:39:51.880
Triple H and HBK had feuds back and forth over time.

793
00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:54.920
On Monday Night Raw in two thousand and six, they

794
00:39:55.519 --> 00:39:58.480
reunited as Degeneration X, and everybody didn't give a shit.

795
00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:01.320
They didn't blink an eye because they wanted se DX reunited.

796
00:40:01.639 --> 00:40:03.599
That's what this reminds me of. For what the example

797
00:40:03.639 --> 00:40:05.360
you're trying to say were where it's like, yeah, we

798
00:40:05.400 --> 00:40:07.360
forget all that. I love the nostalgic act.

799
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:10.199
Yeah, I mean, but they I think they kind of

800
00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:14.519
reunited over their common enemy. Yeah, common enemy. And you

801
00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:15.880
could kind of do the same thing here where the

802
00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:19.880
enemy of my enemy is my friend, where Jay is

803
00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:22.639
now an enemy of Solo, Roman and Jimmy are an

804
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:25.239
enemy of Solo. So you know, you kind of put

805
00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:26.480
that in the riverw I mean, we saw that with

806
00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:29.320
the nWo. We were front NW a lot with the BCC,

807
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:32.440
But how many times do we see you know, the

808
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:34.800
giants get kicked out and then rejoined.

809
00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:36.360
I mean Randy.

810
00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:38.960
Savage got turned on a bash at the beach and

811
00:40:39.199 --> 00:40:43.039
never once came after really came after the nWo afterwards,

812
00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:44.880
and just all of a sudden, he's like, huh, yeah,

813
00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:46.280
I'm I'm team Hollywood.

814
00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:47.119
That's fine.

815
00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:51.880
You know the finger Poke of Doom reunited wolf Pack

816
00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:54.519
in Hollywood. Yeah, I mean, we've but it was for

817
00:40:54.519 --> 00:40:56.280
the sake of like, oh yeah, let's put the band

818
00:40:56.280 --> 00:41:00.280
back together, so to speak. So we will suspend commons

819
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:02.920
and storytelling at times if it makes us feel.

820
00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:04.280
Better about what we're seeing on TV.

821
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:08.800
So if you end up with Sammy and Jay against

822
00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:12.239
say Toma, Tonga and Togolo for the SmackDown titles, and

823
00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:15.840
you got Jimmy and Roman and Solo and Jacob going

824
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:17.519
at it. Well, then the four of those guys and

825
00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:19.239
the four of those other guys they should all hate

826
00:41:19.239 --> 00:41:21.800
each other and it kind of blends together, so there

827
00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:24.960
are ways of kind of patchworking it. And then once

828
00:41:25.000 --> 00:41:27.960
you get to war games, I mean, once again, the

829
00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:33.159
ultimate trump card that nobody's referenced, Solo takes out Rakishi,

830
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:36.440
which then puts Jimmy and Jay back together to go

831
00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:37.960
after the little brother for taking out their dad.

832
00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:40.840
That would be interesting, That would be interesting.

833
00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:45.639
Yeah, yeah, yeah, tries me to peace maker between three boys.

834
00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:48.400
And he did it for the Rock, Yeah, exactly.

835
00:41:48.519 --> 00:41:51.800
Solo did it for the Rock, the Rock's final boss yep,

836
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:53.960
when he asked, why did you take out dad? I

837
00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:56.239
did it for the Rock. That would be actually.

838
00:41:56.280 --> 00:41:59.800
Money really for us, for us old guys, we would

839
00:41:59.800 --> 00:42:03.480
all get it. The younger fans will be like, what, huh.

840
00:42:03.199 --> 00:42:06.559
Did it for the Rock? You don't the entire thing

841
00:42:06.599 --> 00:42:09.800
that as we're talking about this, something that just came

842
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:12.960
to my mind here is, you know, adding Jay adding

843
00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:17.639
Sammy into the storyline. The thing that we're tending to

844
00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:20.920
forget here is they don't they don't need this, Like

845
00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:23.880
this is kind of beneath them. They're they're big stars

846
00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:26.960
right now. Like is it a step back for Jay

847
00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:29.800
and Sammy. Let's just talk about Jay because we don't

848
00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:32.000
know about Samy, But is it a step back for

849
00:42:32.159 --> 00:42:34.559
Jay to be involved in a storyline like this?

850
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:38.519
Character wise?

851
00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:43.079
Probably a little bit, because I don't know if the

852
00:42:43.159 --> 00:42:46.280
New I can't I haven't really been able to gauge,

853
00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:49.519
like we knew when the og bloodline was over with

854
00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:52.559
the fans, like we knew, like they're like the fans.

855
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:55.199
Everybody hated them, but they're still throw up the ones

856
00:42:55.440 --> 00:42:59.559
you know you're over. Then, I don't know if people

857
00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:02.119
look at the New bloodline and you can say they're

858
00:43:02.239 --> 00:43:06.559
over with the audience like I think people I don't

859
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:09.280
know if people are if Solo's actually over with the

860
00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:13.079
crowd has the top villain on the show. I think

861
00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:16.840
people are fascinated by Jacob Fatu, which then makes it

862
00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:20.599
hard to boo him because the dudes of freak athletes

863
00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:25.079
and then Toma Tonga and Togoloa like for diehard fans. Yeah,

864
00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:26.800
we know who the Girls and Destiny are. We know

865
00:43:26.800 --> 00:43:30.119
what a great tag team they are. Does the WWE

866
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:34.599
audience understand what they have? I don't know if that

867
00:43:34.800 --> 00:43:39.000
group is perceived on the same level as equal opposition

868
00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:41.920
to it a reunited og bloodline would be, or even

869
00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:45.079
Jay Uso on that level, because Jay, we know is

870
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:47.800
super of the fans because I mean, hell yea shirts

871
00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:50.159
are like the number one or number two sellers on

872
00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:51.159
WWE right now.

873
00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:51.760
It's crazy.

874
00:43:51.800 --> 00:43:56.079
So it probably is a step backwards, but for the

875
00:43:56.119 --> 00:43:59.800
sake of elevating family, I think it's the right move

876
00:43:59.840 --> 00:44:00.239
for him.

877
00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:04.599
Interesting. Interesting what storyline are you digging right now? The

878
00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:06.440
most of professional wrestling.

879
00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:12.800
Probably BCC just because the mystery involved as to who

880
00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:14.000
the person is behind it.

881
00:44:14.440 --> 00:44:16.800
Well, that's what we're assuming, right Yeah.

882
00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:19.360
And then well, I mean he's still his his that's

883
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:20.440
our hope.

884
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:22.199
That's our hope. Uh.

885
00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:25.920
And then he does have vague allusions to something somebody

886
00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:27.320
else being involved.

887
00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:33.320
Does he I can't tell? Sometimes with mox like, what

888
00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:34.960
what the hell did he say? I mean, he's making

889
00:44:35.039 --> 00:44:37.400
Lord love him and God rest his soul, is making

890
00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:39.960
some of the Brave White Stuff look sound like something

891
00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:40.559
I could follow.

892
00:44:41.480 --> 00:44:44.079
I am intrigued now by by the way, you mentioned that,

893
00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:46.559
I am intrigued by saying Final Testament why six.

894
00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:48.519
Yeah, I'm happy they're back on TV.

895
00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:53.239
Miss and Miss being a darker version of Miss, Like

896
00:44:53.760 --> 00:44:56.239
it's kind of a weird thing. But I'm like, we've

897
00:44:56.280 --> 00:44:59.199
never seen Mis go like but horror Hollywood.

898
00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:02.440
But that and Xavier Wood stuff is really good.

899
00:45:03.199 --> 00:45:04.360
Yeah, I mean it.

900
00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:06.719
Plus i mean how cool, like like when our Truth

901
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:08.639
by the way, I know we're kind of ex side step,

902
00:45:08.719 --> 00:45:10.760
is our Truth coming out to help out the New Day.

903
00:45:10.760 --> 00:45:13.360
I'm like, why have we ever seen our Truth with

904
00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:16.079
the New Day? Like that just seems like a match

905
00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:19.800
made in Heaven to put those guys together, because the

906
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:21.960
comedy from those guys will be great. But this new

907
00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:28.639
dark Exavier Woods is still a cool twist. But yeah,

908
00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:31.000
I'm really I just want Carrying Cross. I'm a big

909
00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:33.440
Carrying Cross fan. I'm just wanting to see something good

910
00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:36.800
for Carrying Cross. You know, like he really has anything,

911
00:45:36.920 --> 00:45:39.119
had anything really good. He had the Strap few, the

912
00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:42.360
Strap match with Drew McIntyre when he first came back.

913
00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:45.679
Outside of that, the NXT run and really nothing else

914
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:50.880
has been really aviodated. But I love cultish type characters,

915
00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:52.920
so I'm on board with this.

916
00:45:53.119 --> 00:45:55.000
I thought you you were all on board with the

917
00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:57.559
Gladiator costume carrying cross at one.

918
00:45:57.400 --> 00:46:01.320
Time, only because I was hoping for a wardrobe malfunction

919
00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:02.440
from him or Scarlett.

920
00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:05.199
Interesting, fair enough, fair enough for me. It's it's the

921
00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:07.760
Kevin Owen stuff. But that's I mean, that's easy. I'm

922
00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:10.679
I'm like, Okay, where is this going. The Kevin Owens,

923
00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:13.480
Cody Roads, Randy Orton stuff right now, I think is

924
00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:15.679
really good. And that's an offshoot of the stuff that

925
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:18.119
took place with the Bloodline. I'm like, this is a

926
00:46:18.159 --> 00:46:20.800
little bit more modern day. We're really well thought out,

927
00:46:20.800 --> 00:46:22.760
and I like how it's playing on television right now.

928
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:25.239
So that's that's mine. But that's probably because I'm a

929
00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:26.320
huge Kevin Owens fan.

930
00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:28.480
Wait, I was, as I was gonna ask you a

931
00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:30.599
question by this, who does Randy who do we see

932
00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:32.760
Randy Orton talk to on SmackDown this week to get

933
00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:33.440
the Magic.

934
00:46:33.159 --> 00:46:35.880
Crown jewel against Kevin Owens.

935
00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:38.960
Yeah, because Nick All just said it's above me.

936
00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:41.840
That's what he's talking about, right.

937
00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:44.199
Yeah, that's what everybody thinks.

938
00:46:44.360 --> 00:46:46.679
But who do you think you talk to, Sean Michaels.

939
00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:48.079
I don't know.

940
00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:50.159
That's the thing is like, do we see Triple H

941
00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:53.360
on SmackDown and a Triple Ah Randy orton segments?

942
00:46:54.199 --> 00:46:57.280
Yeah, I think yeah, that would be that would make sense.

943
00:46:58.199 --> 00:46:59.719
I think that's who they were alluding to. It would

944
00:46:59.719 --> 00:47:01.880
be really funny if it like, hey, can I have

945
00:47:01.960 --> 00:47:04.199
this match and they like the camera pans and it's

946
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:08.639
it's it's I don't know, the returning Reggie or something.

947
00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:13.679
They it's it's ak he goes to Stephanie instead.

948
00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:16.119
M Yeah, they have they have a history. But I

949
00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:18.760
thought that was I thought that basically was alluding to

950
00:47:18.840 --> 00:47:19.360
Triple H.

951
00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:21.320
Yeah, I know, but I just I was just like,

952
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:24.159
but I mean, I know, we call him like, we

953
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:27.480
call him by his title on TV, but we haven't

954
00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:31.000
seen him actually come out and make a match happen.

955
00:47:31.159 --> 00:47:33.559
So that would be a different take on it.

956
00:47:33.599 --> 00:47:35.119
That's so that's why I was wondering if they were

957
00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:37.159
gonna go bra because I'll forget.

958
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:38.920
Well, they're playing it up as if it's a real

959
00:47:39.079 --> 00:47:41.920
thing that they're banning, like Kevin Owens from being in

960
00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:45.039
the arena and and doing these these videos even though

961
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:46.639
they did air the video on SmackDown.

962
00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:49.440
Yeah, but and Ko is a Triple H guy, so

963
00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:52.000
you know it's it's and everybod kind of knows that

964
00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:55.280
because that was the first uh you know Triple H

965
00:47:55.360 --> 00:47:58.000
really with the Triple H helping Ko win the title

966
00:47:58.039 --> 00:47:59.800
overset that one time in the in the Fatal four

967
00:47:59.840 --> 00:48:01.519
Way talking.

968
00:48:01.360 --> 00:48:04.000
About Triple H sidebar here before we get into Halloween Havic.

969
00:48:04.039 --> 00:48:06.159
Anybody ever think it's weird that they referred to him

970
00:48:06.159 --> 00:48:08.039
on television now as Paul Triple H Levec.

971
00:48:09.039 --> 00:48:10.239
It freaks me out with it when every time I

972
00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:11.519
hear so you say, I gotta go talk to.

973
00:48:11.480 --> 00:48:15.239
Paul, Yes, that that freaks me out because Triple H

974
00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:17.840
means hunter Hurst Helmsley. So if it's the full name,

975
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:20.639
is he Paul hunter Hurst Helmsley Levec.

976
00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:25.280
Which sounds so fancy, But then I gotta go talk

977
00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:29.679
to Paul, I think and Hayman and Hangman, So it

978
00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:31.119
throws me off every time.

979
00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:33.239
It's the old school fan me. They're not like, here's

980
00:48:33.320 --> 00:48:38.039
Mark the Undertaker Callaway, which, by the way, Undertaker interviewed

981
00:48:38.360 --> 00:48:39.400
a former president.

982
00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:41.280
Yeah, it's crazy.

983
00:48:41.800 --> 00:48:42.320
What a world.

984
00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:44.079
And by the way, nobody ever says, I gotta go

985
00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:45.440
talk to Higginbotham.

986
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:47.960
True, Yeah, I gotta, I gotta go talk to Mike

987
00:48:48.440 --> 00:48:55.519
who Michael hbk Hickebottom here he is? Uh? Or yeah? What?

988
00:48:55.559 --> 00:48:57.599
I don't even know what Booker T's real name is,

989
00:48:57.719 --> 00:49:02.000
so Booker you're right, yeah, Booker T. Huffman.

990
00:49:02.199 --> 00:49:04.360
I guess, yeah, I think I think it's a Booker T. Huffman.

991
00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:07.320
You know, it's just little things are driving nuts, like

992
00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:11.639
Lexus King can't be known as Brian Pillman, Charlie Dempsey

993
00:49:11.679 --> 00:49:15.480
can't be known as Charlie Regal, but we're gonna call

994
00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:16.719
Paul triple h Levec.

995
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:19.679
It's like, yeah, but Saban and Shelley get to keep

996
00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:20.079
their names.

997
00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:22.480
Yeah, they do everything. They get to keep everything. Which

998
00:49:23.440 --> 00:49:26.599
any thoughts there? Do you like the the tagline on

999
00:49:26.760 --> 00:49:31.840
their on their Titan Tron of rat a tat tat sure?

1000
00:49:32.519 --> 00:49:35.719
I mean what what, I don't know. I'm happy for them.

1001
00:49:36.199 --> 00:49:37.920
This is this is great. I mean, these this is

1002
00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:41.239
long overdue that they got the opportunity in this position,

1003
00:49:41.840 --> 00:49:44.559
and it's it's it's got me excited for the Tag

1004
00:49:44.599 --> 00:49:48.800
team division at least on SmackDown. But yeah, I mean

1005
00:49:48.800 --> 00:49:51.440
they're they're getting a lot of pub on on a

1006
00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:54.039
return and on coming to w w A and rightfully

1007
00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:55.639
so I'm digging at Doctor Trey.

1008
00:49:55.800 --> 00:49:59.239
I thought the crowd reaction though, was really light.

1009
00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:04.440
I mean, they're not like extremely well known.

1010
00:50:04.320 --> 00:50:07.239
Right, yeah, did they have I can't remember.

1011
00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:10.280
I know they should have done vignettes like explaining who

1012
00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:13.360
they were beforehand, I think, but and not just the

1013
00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:16.159
weird video did that didn't show them at all?

1014
00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:18.440
Like show some you can get TNA to give you

1015
00:50:18.480 --> 00:50:19.079
some highlights.

1016
00:50:19.159 --> 00:50:22.039
Oh, absolutely you can, especially with the relationship right now.

1017
00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:26.760
So but I know we had the American Wolves in

1018
00:50:26.920 --> 00:50:32.239
NXT did like one time? Did we get I thought

1019
00:50:32.280 --> 00:50:34.639
there was another tag team that they fought like the

1020
00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:36.719
week but like because who was who was the champion

1021
00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:37.000
of the time?

1022
00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:41.039
Was that time splitters out of match or two because

1023
00:50:41.079 --> 00:50:42.199
Shelley did?

1024
00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:45.679
Who did? Who did? Who was it that the Wolves wrestled?

1025
00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:49.599
There was uh Connor and Victor the Ascension?

1026
00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:50.639
The Ascension.

1027
00:50:51.039 --> 00:50:53.280
I thought there was another tag team at the time

1028
00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:55.360
that they had the week before.

1029
00:50:56.880 --> 00:50:59.519
I know the Brisco has got a couple of dark matches.

1030
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:02.280
Sworn it was the it was MotorCity. I thought Motorsman

1031
00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:04.599
Machina has had one match in NXC beforehand.

1032
00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:08.159
No Shelley wrestled with Kashida. I don't believe Saban ever

1033
00:51:08.159 --> 00:51:10.840
wrestled in w A.

1034
00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:12.320
All right, but either way, like, I'm happy for them.

1035
00:51:12.159 --> 00:51:14.400
I'm glad they're getting the chance. I'm looking forward to

1036
00:51:14.440 --> 00:51:15.960
seeing them in d I Y because that should be

1037
00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:18.400
a hell of a tag match. That's a borderline dream

1038
00:51:18.440 --> 00:51:21.280
tag match, so that'll be really, really, really fun.

1039
00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:25.199
But uh, you've got a lot of talented tag teams

1040
00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:30.800
starting utilizing them, like Anderson and Gallows are on there, Dall.

1041
00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:34.159
Mysterio and Dragon lead team up in the number one

1042
00:51:34.199 --> 00:51:36.800
Contenders tournament because they've never seen before, but they should

1043
00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:37.760
be number one contenders.

1044
00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:40.360
I hope that that's leaning towards war Raiders Doctor Try.

1045
00:51:41.079 --> 00:51:42.800
I am too, so I'm not gonna lie.

1046
00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:45.159
Lots of good stuff, And I'll just add one more

1047
00:51:45.199 --> 00:51:47.199
thing on the MotorCity machine guns, because we talked about

1048
00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:48.920
AW at the top of the show. I do think

1049
00:51:48.920 --> 00:51:52.559
it does speak some volumes here, that MotorCity machine guns.

1050
00:51:53.440 --> 00:51:55.199
I mean, it just seemed like a foregone conclusion. We

1051
00:51:55.320 --> 00:51:59.920
go to a w Stephanie Vakor went to we those

1052
00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:02.559
some things that, like people are noticing that maybe my

1053
00:52:02.679 --> 00:52:04.760
career isn't going to be as postful in AW as

1054
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:05.800
it would be in WWA.

1055
00:52:06.840 --> 00:52:11.400
Well, I still think for a lot of wrestlers, especially

1056
00:52:11.519 --> 00:52:15.719
longer term like longer tenured wrestlers and wrestlers from overseas,

1057
00:52:16.159 --> 00:52:18.920
WW is still the place to go. Like, it's still

1058
00:52:18.960 --> 00:52:22.400
the dream to have a wrestle media match. So somebody

1059
00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:24.840
like Stephanie Vaccor who grew up watching ww and what

1060
00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:27.920
grew up watching WRESTLEMDIA has it and hurt like lursy

1061
00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:30.599
machine guns. I mean, those kids grew up on WWE,

1062
00:52:31.039 --> 00:52:33.000
so it makes a lot of sense the younger kids,

1063
00:52:33.239 --> 00:52:34.440
maybe AW.

1064
00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:35.480
Is the place for them to go. But to me,

1065
00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:36.719
it's like if.

1066
00:52:36.559 --> 00:52:39.039
You're a tenured veteran and you're like, man, I got

1067
00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:41.719
one less good run in me, I gotta take my

1068
00:52:41.719 --> 00:52:42.760
shot at WWE.

1069
00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:45.440
Yeah. These are two guys in their forties and they've

1070
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:48.039
been wrestling for over twenty years and here they are

1071
00:52:48.079 --> 00:52:51.159
finally making their shot in w WA. Modersoton machine guns.

1072
00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:55.239
Let's preven predicted NXC Halloween Havoc taking place to Sunday

1073
00:52:55.239 --> 00:52:57.639
from the Giants Center in Hershey, Pennsylvania. First match on

1074
00:52:57.679 --> 00:53:00.599
the car here, Doctor Trey's an ambulance match against Ridge

1075
00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:03.159
Holland and Andre Chase. This is a hard one to pick,

1076
00:53:03.239 --> 00:53:05.119
but I'm gonna go with Andre Chase because Chase h

1077
00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:07.000
has just been destroyed by Ridge Hall in the last

1078
00:53:07.000 --> 00:53:07.880
two to three months.

1079
00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:09.840
Yeah, I'm taking Andre Chase as well.

1080
00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:12.039
I just feel like you'll see, you know, something like

1081
00:53:12.199 --> 00:53:15.280
Duke will be driving the ambulance and you'll see, uh

1082
00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:19.400
thea Hale in a nurse's outfit. I just the ambulance

1083
00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:22.360
match means like anything goes kind of thing, So I

1084
00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:25.320
can see Chase Young getting involved to all get their revenge.

1085
00:53:24.960 --> 00:53:28.159
On Ridge Holland. Chase Young from the New Orleans Saints Young,

1086
00:53:28.199 --> 00:53:29.159
I mean Andre Chase.

1087
00:53:29.360 --> 00:53:31.599
Sorry, yeah, Chase Young. I've I've been playing a lot

1088
00:53:31.599 --> 00:53:34.079
of football on my on my PS five, so yeah.

1089
00:53:33.920 --> 00:53:37.360
Yeah, he could definitely spear like bron Breaker does Calonne

1090
00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:40.760
Jordan defense against either Fallon Henley, Jacy Jane or Jasmine

1091
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:44.000
Nicks in a Spinner's Choice match for the NXC Women's

1092
00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:46.199
North American Championship, Doctor Trey, who do you like in

1093
00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:46.679
this one?

1094
00:53:47.119 --> 00:53:50.559
I got momentarily confused when I saw Spinner's Choice because

1095
00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:52.360
I was like, wait, are we putting the spinner on

1096
00:53:52.360 --> 00:53:53.679
the North American title for the women?

1097
00:53:53.760 --> 00:53:55.519
Like that would be horrible.

1098
00:53:56.280 --> 00:53:58.519
They just and it's just that I a jeweler. They

1099
00:53:58.599 --> 00:54:01.280
just pick which spinner they select. That's the match.

1100
00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:05.679
I'm taking Kilani because I think I don't know what

1101
00:54:05.719 --> 00:54:07.360
her new name is, but her old name was Delta.

1102
00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:09.360
I think she gets involved to help her out in

1103
00:54:09.400 --> 00:54:10.079
this match.

1104
00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:12.639
I'm going to go with Fallon Henley. I think you

1105
00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:15.159
gotta do some with this. Is it Fatal Attraction that's

1106
00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:18.719
their tag name now, yeah, trio name. I'm going to

1107
00:54:18.760 --> 00:54:20.480
go with Fallon Henley in this one because I think

1108
00:54:20.480 --> 00:54:24.280
they could use a little bit of some firepower for

1109
00:54:24.320 --> 00:54:26.639
their group moving forward. So Doc Tray is Kolanie. I'm

1110
00:54:26.639 --> 00:54:28.400
gonna go with Fallon Henley to be the winner in

1111
00:54:28.440 --> 00:54:31.760
this one. Next match is Roxane Perez and Cora Jay

1112
00:54:31.840 --> 00:54:34.519
taking on Julia and Stephanie vakor Doctor Trey. Who do

1113
00:54:34.519 --> 00:54:35.280
you like in this one?

1114
00:54:35.800 --> 00:54:38.360
I guess Julia and Stephanie vack Or just because of

1115
00:54:38.440 --> 00:54:40.280
the tag match, the titles and not on the line, so

1116
00:54:40.320 --> 00:54:41.760
I think they can afford to get a win to

1117
00:54:41.840 --> 00:54:43.920
kind of boost them up. This is gonna be fun though,

1118
00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:46.480
because I'm really interesting how this Korra Roxan thing works out,

1119
00:54:46.519 --> 00:54:51.679
because if I remember correctly, they were partners and then

1120
00:54:51.800 --> 00:54:54.719
feuded and then kind of made up and then got hurt.

1121
00:54:54.920 --> 00:54:58.639
So I'm gonna say Julia and Stephanie Bucker though, because.

1122
00:54:58.400 --> 00:54:59.920
They kind of need the win to kind of pump

1123
00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:00.440
them up.

1124
00:55:01.360 --> 00:55:03.960
I like you, I'm gonna take Julian stephaniebau Chorus as well.

1125
00:55:04.039 --> 00:55:08.000
Tony D'Angelo defends the NX North American Championship against Obafemi

1126
00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:11.400
and a tables, ladders and scares match. Uh, this is

1127
00:55:11.400 --> 00:55:13.800
a tough one to call. I'm gonna go with Obafemi

1128
00:55:13.840 --> 00:55:14.760
in this one, Doctor Trey.

1129
00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:16.880
Uh.

1130
00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:20.679
I think I'm taking Tony d to retain, and I

1131
00:55:20.679 --> 00:55:22.960
think you see Obafemi move up to the heavyweight title

1132
00:55:23.039 --> 00:55:24.039
in the next month or two.

1133
00:55:24.679 --> 00:55:27.840
And then finally the Devil's Playground match for the NXC Championship,

1134
00:55:27.840 --> 00:55:30.079
Trick Williams defense against Ethan Page. I'm gonna go with

1135
00:55:30.119 --> 00:55:30.880
Trick Williams.

1136
00:55:31.320 --> 00:55:33.039
Yeah, I'm going with Trick Altar because I think Trick

1137
00:55:33.079 --> 00:55:35.320
and Oba is the next big feud for Trick, So

1138
00:55:35.320 --> 00:55:36.559
I'm gonna take Trick retaining.

1139
00:55:36.920 --> 00:55:39.440
So there you go. We will recap and review NXC

1140
00:55:39.519 --> 00:55:43.199
Halloween Havoc on next week's edition of this show, and

1141
00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:46.360
we'll get you ready for Halloween and also w W

1142
00:55:46.599 --> 00:55:49.000
Crown Jewel, right, Doctor Trey. That's next weekend.

1143
00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:52.559
Yeah, see, next weekend, I'll be in Tennessee with the

1144
00:55:52.559 --> 00:55:55.239
family for Halloween and then Crown Jewel'll be the Saturday

1145
00:55:55.239 --> 00:55:55.920
I'm driving back.

1146
00:55:56.000 --> 00:55:58.519
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, So we'll be preview and predicting

1147
00:55:58.920 --> 00:56:02.880
Crown Jewel, recap, being in reviewing NXD Halloween Havoc, and

1148
00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:06.880
also getting everybody ready for the Halloween holiday. With that said,

1149
00:56:06.920 --> 00:56:09.079
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1150
00:56:09.119 --> 00:56:11.280
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1159
00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:35.679
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1160
00:56:36.079 --> 00:56:37.719
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00:56:50.360 --> 00:56:52.760
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1170
00:57:04.599 --> 00:57:06.519
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1178
00:57:24.719 --> 00:57:27.239
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00:57:27.519 --> 00:57:29.960
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