Dec. 6, 2024

Is This The End of AEW Coverage on SRTU? | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #773 – 12/05/24

Is This The End of AEW Coverage on SRTU? | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #773 – 12/05/24

On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:

- -- We recap & review "WWE Survivor Series: WarGames!"
- -- Did The New Day have one of the greatest wrestling betrayals, ever?
- -- The data on AEW is not good and we look at how we approach...

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On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:

  • -- We recap & review "WWE Survivor Series: WarGames!"
  • -- Did The New Day have one of the greatest wrestling betrayals, ever?
  • -- The data on AEW is not good and we look at how we approach covering AEW in 2025!
  • -- And we preview & predict "NXT Deadline!"

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It's still.

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Welcome. Everybody.

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Welcome to this week's edition in the Stow Real Does

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Show episode number seven or seventy three for December fifth,

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twenty twenty four. This year WWE Survivor Series, War Games

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Recap and NXT Deadline Review and Predictions edition of past

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Our Team You.

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I am one half the show. I am Jeff Beck

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who joined every single week up by my Coast. I

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want to lead Doctor Trey. Franklin, Doctor Trey, we have

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a very serious discussion have later on on this show.

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My friend, is it about the possibility of me teaming

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with cmpunk or being bullied by CM Punk? Because both

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of those things are not true. So I don't need

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any lawsuits or sneak attacks by Drew Mack and tire

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because of this. I have no affiliation in any way

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with Seeing Punk. If anybody does, it's you, So I

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would watch out for somebody coming and kicking your face

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in because you actually have talked to see him Punk before.

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I think three times now, and it's not because like

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the cops were like, all right, leave him alone, get

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him out of here. Career highlights for me Doctor Trey

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was the ability to not only interview but meet cempunk

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in my brief time in sports radio back in now,

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which seems very very long time ago twenty twelve, which

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we did air on the show. At one time, I

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had the opportunity to interview and meet cmpunk and it

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was a career highlight. I have never been more nervous

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in my life. I don't know if I've ever shared

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that on this podcast, but I like remember taking a

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shower heading into getting ready to go into work and like,

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I'm like, I am fucking shaking. I'm so nervous, And

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if anybody knew it was because of a wrestler, they

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would be like, what the fuck is wrong with you?

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But it was legitimate. I mean, I've been fortunate enough

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to interview a lot of really cool people, and the

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number one person I was most nervous about was him,

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And I think it had everything to do with just

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being like extremely intimidated.

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What so like you you interviewed see him Punk? And

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it was also there was one like in person as.

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Well, right, So I did two on the phone, yeah,

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and one in person, which I think somewhere on the internet,

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like if you type in the Bower Show see I'm

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Punk into YouTube, like it's still like a pretty high

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or decently like viewed video. Because he told a story.

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We were like, we asked him, like, what is his

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best vincick Man story, And he talked about a time

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they went over to Baghdad or something some war torn

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area when they were, you know, going to the locations

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overseas for the troops, and he and it must have

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been Iraq because I remember him saying it was like

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Saddam one of Saddam Hussein's mansions, and it was like him,

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vincick Man and one other person that's escaping mir right now.

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And he actually brought up that edge told this story

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during his Hall of Fame speech, but did not mention

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Punk was there, and like I remember being in the

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studio in Punk like rolled his eyes. So there was

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some definitely some heat there between those two. And he

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said he was just asleep and all of a sudden

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he heard vincick Man rip a major fart and he

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just heard then Vince just laugh, just go ha ha ha.

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And that got so much publicity that you would have

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no idea. Like the radio station I worked for, so

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there was a cluster of them. There was a sports

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radio station that I worked for there was a like

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eighties nineties type alternative music station. There was a country station,

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a pop station, and Punk would go around and make

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the rounds. And everybody was against having see him Punk

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there because it was like, what are we gonna talk

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to two wrestler about. And I remember Bauer, a friend

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of both Doctor Trey and I. He was like, Jeff,

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you got to be there for this.

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I was.

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I was interning at the time, and we did it.

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We had the interview, ran the interview. Punk tweeted it

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out when he was still on Twitter at the time

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and got us a whole bunch of people to tune

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in on the on the online version of the show

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that was streaming at the time in the infancy stages

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of streaming, and he gave us some love. And I

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sent it out to like pw insider, dot Com, Wrestling

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nanc all these wrestling news websites to be like, hey,

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Punk was on our show, this is what we talked about,

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this is what he said. Here's a link to it.

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And I send it out and the next morning I

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get an email forward to me from Bauer saying like,

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holy shit, dude, check this out. And I worked for

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iHeartRadio music or radio which has million, you know, millions

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of stations across the country coast to coast, north, south east.

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We it's all over the place. And it was the

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top like twenty five most listened to shows for the

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day across the country, and we were number three. And

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I remember like number two was let's say, like Elvis

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Duran at Z Morning Zoo, and number one was fucking

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Ryan Seacrest. We were number three. It had like over

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five hundred thousand listens. It was insane. It just took off.

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And it was because of the stuff that he said

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about Vince at the time, and everybody was like laughing

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about it, and it was a really good interview and

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it was a career highlight obviously for me to be

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like we were number three in the entire country for that,

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and then after that, everybody was like, we need to

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get more wrestlers on, Like they were actually talking about

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like could we get a wrestler on once a week

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from WWE and type stuff. They wanted to like get

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either Bauer or Eye when they were doing a house

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show at the Exile Center to like be in the

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rain and get hit with this chair. I was like

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absolutely not, but I kind of want to do it.

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But yeah, I mean I interviewed Punk three times. Punk

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was very standoffish and defensive, and then once he kind

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of he opened up as the interview went on, he

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opened up to it and I've always I think I've

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always talked about this and afterwards he was like, that

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was a lot of fun. I really enjoyed like having

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time with you guys, you know, let me know. And

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every other time after that we would have him on.

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I think we had him on to promote the Best

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in the World DVD. He remembered us, which obviously made

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my heart explode. When they were promoting w W two

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K twelve, he remembered us and that was just like

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the coolest shit in the world for me. That like

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we kind of won his trust over and he was like,

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really really cool and he was like off microphone, He's like,

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I really appreciate you guys. Always have a very fun time,

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you know, thanks so much, and he was great, and yeah,

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it was it was a career highlight. It's stuff that

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I it's it's that part of stuff that I miss

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about that job because it did not pay well at all,

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had to move out completely out of it, but I

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got an opportun interview him multiple times, Dolph Siegler, Dean Ambrose,

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John Moxley, I interviewed people from ROH back in the day,

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Terry Funk. It was. It was a blessing and I

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am a lot of people throw that word around a lot,

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Doctor Trey, but I was absolutely blessed to have that

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opportunity to interview people that I looked up to and

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people that I you know, regularly, you know, watched on

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television because punk was a god to me back then.

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So it was a really really cool moment.

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The reason why I asked about the in person is

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because I remember telling me how nervous you were, and

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so in my head and going, Okay, what were the

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times in my life where I was most nervous for

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something And how did I act before I went into

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that situation, Because it's only so much. You can't obviously,

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especially being professional, you can't show your nerves. You have

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to act like you're calm, cool and collective. But I'm like,

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I wonder if Jeff shaved extra that morning, did he

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put on cologne, like did he go all out like

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just like the first date with a with a girl,

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that you know is outside your league, Like, did you

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over do you? Looking back, do you think you overdid

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the reaction to your nerves by you know, overindulging in

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those things, or did you just go all right, I'm nervous.

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Fuck it, I'm gonna go in and be me and

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just see how it plays out.

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Oh no, one hundred percent overdid it?

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Really?

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I was told I was going to get one question

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with Punk, so I was Bauer had started in March

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twenty twelve, and he was like, you know, angling to

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get me on. It couldn't get paid. I'd have to

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do an internship. Meanwhile, I'm not in college and I'm

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in my mid twenties, so I'm basically I'm just doing

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it for free, just to like prove my worth, which

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is like an insane thing to say out loud. But

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like doctor Trenon were talking about this off air like

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that was kind of our generation. I don't necessarily know

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if people will do that nowadays, honestly. So yeah, I

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mean I, I, you know, did that where I I

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thought like crazy about the question I would ask him,

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and I remembered seeing on Twitter, and this is a

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thing that I've always wanted to do in my life

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is I've always wanted to go to the WWE warehouse

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and he had just gone to it, and I was like,

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I'm gonna ask him about that, like what was the

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coolest thing he ever saw? And he basically just regurgitated

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what he had tweeted. He was like, I saw a

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bunch of lockers that the headbangers had like spray painted on.

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I'm like, fuck, I had one question to ask him

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that day in person, and that's what the fuck I picked.

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I also did not want to be like over Fanny,

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like like like being too weird where he would like

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want to do a uh uh a restraining order against

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me type stuff. I remember I took and I think

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I texted it to you, doctor Trey. I think I

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took a picture of him and it was like all

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blurry and shit of him sitting at the microphone and

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me sitting at the mic like from a distance from him.

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And reason why it was so blurry is because not

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because the poor camera quality back then twelve years ago,

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but my fucking hand was shaking. And I also didn't

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want him to like catch me taking a picture of him,

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because I think he would have been like, you know,

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what what is with this fucking freak? So, yeah, it was.

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It was a career highlight. Man, I will never forget it.

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I definitely overdid it. I wish I had calmed myself

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afterwards after that, once it was like done. You know,

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it's funny because it was so early in that phase

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of my radio career. After that, I never you know,

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there would be times where I'd be like, I can't

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believe I'm doing this, Like I'm looking at my right

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and I'm interviewing fucking Marcus Allen or a Madrashad, which

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like I would watch NBA inside stuff like religiously as

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a kid. There were definitely times where I'm like, I

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can't believe this is happening. But once I did the Punk,

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it was like you can only go up from here

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at this point. I mean, there's coen times where you

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interview people that you've looked up to seeing your whole life,

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and yeah, it was. Uh, it was definitely a really

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cool learning experience and one that I'm like truly honored

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and blessed to have in my life because obviously at

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this point, unless you know, I wake up tomorrow and

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this is like a show that is just completely taken off.

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I can't foresee w W wanting to talk to Doctor

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Tran and I anytime soon, especially for the ship that

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we say.

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Maybe Tony Kahn.

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But yeah, but it was just the reason because I

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was thinking back to like, you know, me breaking into wrestling.

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I remember like one of the very first shows I did,

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we did a big show in whatever our colliseums. It

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was like we're like, we're gonna bring in like three

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thousand people because Devon Dudley was on the show.

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I remember that he had they had his kids with him, right.

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He was that was his thing. He was trying to

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get his kids over and get people look at them.

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So he was bringing them in and I was super

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nervous because this is the show that we did live

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commentary on the microphone during the matches, and so I

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was super nervous. But I was also like really like, hey, man,

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if I do a great job, you know, he might

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throw a rewarding for me somewhere.

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This might be that thing that takes me, you know,

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takes me somewhere.

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And it was like two matches before his the owner

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of the show comes by and he's like, hey, Devon

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doesn't want you doing live commentary during his kids match

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because he doesn't want to throw them off, and I

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was like, I got mad.

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But the best thing about.

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That was it put me on that thing of like, Okay,

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these are just regular guys that have a job. And

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from then on, I never really got nervous when a

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big name was coming into one of our shows, Like

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I mean, you know, we've had Conrad Thompson at our show,

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and for two guys that do a podcast like that

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would be a nerve wrecking moment. I'm like, no, if

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he likes as he likes, and he does and he

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doesn't like, So from then.

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On, I was always kind of cool with it.

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The most nervous I've got since that time was when

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The Rock and Roll Express came in, because like I've

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been watching those guys since I was seven years old,

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like thirty five forty years I've been watching the Rock

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ro Express and Super Cool and they like literally I

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had to open the show with the promo and so

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like the first image, They're gonna get a Rocket City

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Championshire Wrestling is what I'm saying on the microphone.

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And I went.

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Out there and cut a promo and a guy and

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I got to the back and the and.

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Barry call off.

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The owner of Rocket City came by and goes, hey,

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Robert Gibson said, you killed it out there on the microphone,

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said what a great job you did. I was like, okay,

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I'm I'm good at this, and so from the from

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then on, I was super cool. But there they were

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one of the first people that I also threw out

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that hole. You know, don't be a mark, don't take

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pictures with wrestlers if you're working the show. I was like,

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I have to get a picture of the Rock Roll Express.

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Like there's no way around it. I have to get

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this done because of like not just my fandom form,

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but my family grew up on the Rock Roll Express

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as well. So from then on, I've also I don't

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have an issue with taking pictures with somebody because of

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of doing with that. But I also remember, like that

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divon thing, Dude, I shaved, I made sure my suit

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was pressed, I made sure my tie was good, I

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made I double checked, you know, did the armpit check

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just to make sure I smell good.

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Thought a whole nine yards.

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But from then on, I'm like, no, I'm just gonna

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do I'm gonna be me and if I'm good, great,

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and if I suck, I suck. It's just kind of

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is what it is after that point.

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Yeah, I think once you get in that industry, right,

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you kind of like change a little bit and you

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look at everybody as strange as it is, and whether

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they've been more successful than you or not, as like

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we're peers. Because I did the ESPN thing, working at

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the Mothership there and working in Bristol, Connecticut, and you know,

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walking by people that I watched on television my entire life.

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You know, I had the honor and privilege to work

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with Stuart Scott for a project that he did and

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that was like I could not put into words how

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much that guy meant to me when I was growing up.

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So yeah, we're very blessed to be able to do

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a lot of these things and have these types of stories,

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because at the end of the day, you like, you

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only go one way in this life, and to be

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able to say that you interview these people and share

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the ring with these people is pretty cool.

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Yeahbsolutely.

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So yeah, speaking of wit, we should we should. After

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you have your little coughing fit there, we should be Yeah.

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No, no, I'm I'm I'm doing much better here, Doctor Trey.

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So as much as it doesn't sound like it, why

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don't we get into it? WWE Survivor Series Wargames recap

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and review this past Saturday from the Rodgers Arena in Vancouver,

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British Columbia, Canada. The first thing here read Ripley, Bianca

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bell Air, Naomi, Eo Sky and Bailey defeat Live Morgan, Rakel, Rodriguez,

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Nia Jack, Tiffany Stratton, Andy Canniel Ray and the Women's

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War Games match. I Team Ripley, Doctor Trade Team Live.

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My thoughts on this one. This match in the beginning

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looked like it was destined for a potential train wreck,

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as there were some spots with Nia Jacks that did

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not go well at all. However's the match went on,

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it felt like all ten women got into the groove

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and the match got better as it progressed. Hitting the

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top rope Riptide on Live Morgan through the table for

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the win was a nice way to continue this feud forward,

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and there's some good spots in this match, like Tiffany

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Stratton debating doing a cash in, which would have been

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absolutely eptic epic on our team, and the tension between

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Loray and Stratton as they vuy for Jack's affection. My

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only issue with this match was wish. I wish they

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played on the build up of the history between Bailey

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and Eosky that resulted in some sort of burying the

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hatchet rather than ignoring it throughout the short build up

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because of I guess Jade carr Gill's injury. The fact

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that WWA did not really touch that story heading into

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this one makes me think that car Gill got legit injured,

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which I know is a debated topic right now online

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because if it was storyline, they would have been prepared

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for it and they never touched it. Overall, a good

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but not great War Games match, Doctor Trey.

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Yeah, I'm not even the good category because for me,

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like that first eight minutes of the match I thought

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was just atrocious, just so bad. And I don't like

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blaming NYA Jacks for everything, because you could audibly hear

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Bailey calling spots during that match as well, So I

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mean it was just rough. And you know, even the

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spot with the trash can and the moon salt, you know,

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with with Tiffany and EO going, it.

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Just felt so well, I mean, so scripted.

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I mean it was like, I mean, you're watching Eo

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climb the ring climb up there with the trash can,

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You're like, all right, that's cool. And then because you

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don't get the spot, but then just watching everybody stand

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around and wait for them to jump, like it just

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I don't know, and then just the chair shots were bad.

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Like the the ending of the match is the only

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thing that kind of made me go from really bad

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to passable. Like the spot with the handcuffs was cool,

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a little bit of magic trickery because you see the

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the fire extinguisher goes off and you can't see what's

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going on. All of a sudden, you know where Keul's handcuffed,

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and then you get the rea with the rip tied

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through the table. Like the ending was pretty good, but

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I mean there there were some just really bad moments

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of like maybe we should just not let the women

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have chairs in matches, because nobody swung a chair with

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anything other than just like, I mean, the only thing

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I can think that was softer is when the boys

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come out with Dalton Castle and they had the little

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feathers flapping around around daland Castle.

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I mean they were just so bad looking.

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I mean it was aw fake punching Dustin Rhodes, you know,

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dark order type stuff bad at times in that match.

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So I enjoyed the finish, but really for about the

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first eight minutes was bad. The first fifteen was in

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and then the ending is the only thing that pulled

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it up for me.

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Going to the next matchery of Shinsky and Kockamore defeeding

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in La Night to win in w United States Championship.

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We both at LA Night and this one. I love

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the new change of direction of Shinsky and Nackimore and

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I'm happy that he is back on WE Television. It

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has been way too long putting the US title on

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Knockamore and makes so much sense as it would set

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his new correct character back had he lost in the

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title match on PLA. We do need another top heel

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on the SmackDown brand, and this version of knackamoor and

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may just be the next new heel we need on

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the Blue brand. I also liked that we saw a

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different version of La and Knight in this one, one

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that was trepidacious and I'm sure of himself all on

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the black miss from Knockamore the night before on SmackDown.

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Thought it was a good match in strong character development

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in this one for both stars. Your thoughts not to

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try it.

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Was surprising the sense of like La Knight.

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Really it felt like Shinskey just dominated the match, like

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he had very few moments of hope spots or whatever

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you want to call him the business. It just it

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felt very one sighted, very dominant for Knackamor, which is

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a refreshing change from what we've seen from Knakamura in

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his booking over the past five years, you know, going

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all the way back to WrestleMania thirty seven against with

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a thirty seven against aj for the world title, Like

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that was the last time I felt like Knackamora was

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actually built kind of strong. Since then, it's been very

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very flat and at best. So the new character's cool.

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I haven't figured out if I dig the new theme

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song then you know the new more Samurai take on

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his theme song, because it might take me a little

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bit to get used to because we all love the

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old theme song. But the character looks good. The presentation

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looks good though it is. He's adapted some new moves

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into his arsenal that look far more vicious, So I

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like the new direction. I'm glad I was wrong in

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my prediction on this one, because you're absolutely right, like

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we need some more stronger, some heels that aren't in

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the bloodline on SmackDown.

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It takes away a little bit the luster.

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Vlli I which because I felt like, I think we

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turn on the show a few weeks ago, I felt

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like it had kind of plateaued and been a little

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flat lately, so hey, this might tweak a few things

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as well, So shaking some things up with these characters

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is good.

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I think it also shows you how the creative is

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different nowadays, because I think it was Vince led. We

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don't have a title change here, so I like that

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they're They're like, all right, we were invested in this,

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and we want to see him succeed as a heel

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because we need heels just like we do babyfaces as well.

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Next match here is bron Breaker defeating Seamus and Ludwig

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Kaiser in a triple threat match, retaining the w United

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w W Intercontinental Championship. We both had Seamus in this one.

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The fans are really behind Seamus finally becoming the Intercontinental

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chair up, and I think WWE really needs to start

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revving this up to capitalize on it. If I'm fantasy

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booking this, I think I would run this match back

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for either Saturday Nights main event or the raw Netflix debut,

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and I have Seamus win the Intercutital Championship. I don't

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think they're doing Saturday Night's main event now based on

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what we saw on Monday with Kaiser and a Breaker

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behind the scenes on the backstage area. I would then

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either have Shamus drop the title Leuwig Kaiser at the

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Royal Rumble or wait until rest Mainty forty one is

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I think Kaiser is the next young start to break

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out and this for a big twenty twenty five, while

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I would start teasing brown Breaker for some bigger main

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event level type matches in fews with some are already

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established top stars as he's to do for a big

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twenty twenty five, as well as for the match itself,

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this was a really good triple threat match. Not to

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tray your thoughts on this one.

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Yeah, I really enjoyed this match, and this goes to

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show you, like we talked about a weeks ago, this

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whole idea of booking bron Breaker as a tweeterer because

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his promos and his interests kind of baby Face, but

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he still wrestles kind of heal, Like this is the

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perfect spot to fit him in where you have a

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super over baby phase Seamus and a a spies heel

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like Kaiser.

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This fits in really well.

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And you know, I love that you brought up, you know,

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potentially putting the belts on Kaiser because you kept hearing

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Corey Graves on commentary talk about how he's the next

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breakout star, like he's poised for a huge breakout and

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how underrated he is. But you know, for me, like

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I agree, like to me, like you do a match

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with Seamus and Breaker where you know, Seamus, if he loses,

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can never challenge for.

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The Inner Continental title. Again.

471
00:22:29.400 --> 00:22:32.000
WW loves those kind of stipulations that way Seamus finally

472
00:22:32.039 --> 00:22:36.559
goes over. We saw Breaker and Gunther teased a couple

473
00:22:36.519 --> 00:22:38.759
of months ago when we thought Breaker was going pure

474
00:22:38.759 --> 00:22:41.079
baby face when he shook hands with Jay Husso so

475
00:22:41.119 --> 00:22:44.000
there's that kind of back burner storytelling you can lay into.

476
00:22:44.480 --> 00:22:46.880
But I absolutely loved this match. I thought it was phenomenal.

477
00:22:46.880 --> 00:22:49.160
I thought it was hard hitting. So this right there

478
00:22:49.200 --> 00:22:51.240
that kind of made up for that first Woman's War

479
00:22:51.279 --> 00:22:51.880
Games match.

480
00:22:52.559 --> 00:22:55.000
Next match here is gun Through defeating Damien priestser retained

481
00:22:55.000 --> 00:22:56.839
the World of aweight championship. We both had gun Through

482
00:22:56.839 --> 00:22:59.599
in this one. I like the technical, old school approach

483
00:22:59.599 --> 00:23:01.480
of this match by having gun Through focus on Damian

484
00:23:01.519 --> 00:23:05.039
priests injured shoulder, which is his m as someone who

485
00:23:05.079 --> 00:23:07.319
likes to pick apart their opponents. It seemed like Gunther

486
00:23:07.400 --> 00:23:09.759
started regaining his confidence throughout this match once the world

487
00:23:09.839 --> 00:23:12.480
champ noticed Damien Priese was injured, as there was blood

488
00:23:12.480 --> 00:23:14.839
in the water at that point. Finn's interference and guth

489
00:23:14.839 --> 00:23:16.160
Through taking him out and made me think there's a

490
00:23:16.200 --> 00:23:18.920
possibility for a triple threat match here and down the line,

491
00:23:19.559 --> 00:23:21.160
or even testing some of the waters with gun Through

492
00:23:21.160 --> 00:23:23.359
being a potential baby face. So we saw that carried

493
00:23:23.359 --> 00:23:26.240
over on Monday's Raw. It'll be Gunther versus Finn at

494
00:23:26.240 --> 00:23:30.759
Saturday night's main event for the Heavyweight Championship, and Guntherro's

495
00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:34.319
interactions with Dominic were gold like the crowd was laughing

496
00:23:34.359 --> 00:23:37.200
and having a good time. I enjoyed this one, Doctor Trey,

497
00:23:37.240 --> 00:23:38.880
your thoughts as gun Through retains.

498
00:23:39.319 --> 00:23:41.079
Yeah, I thought it was a really good match.

499
00:23:41.119 --> 00:23:43.519
I mean it wasn't you know, It's not a five

500
00:23:43.559 --> 00:23:46.200
stars not match to year quality, but you know, anytime

501
00:23:46.240 --> 00:23:48.759
you get Gunther and Priests in the ring, they're gonna

502
00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:49.599
have a good quality match.

503
00:23:49.799 --> 00:23:51.480
I like how both these guys work.

504
00:23:51.640 --> 00:23:53.880
I love the old school storytelling of you know, the

505
00:23:53.920 --> 00:23:56.359
old Anderson thing of finding a body part and working

506
00:23:56.400 --> 00:23:59.480
it and it paid off because you got that fan

507
00:23:59.519 --> 00:24:01.640
sympathy of time. Damien would sell the shoulder, that spot

508
00:24:01.640 --> 00:24:04.039
where Damie fell off the top to the floor leading

509
00:24:04.079 --> 00:24:07.559
to Finn coming out. I love that. It was so

510
00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:10.759
good the crowd thought he botched it, you know, and

511
00:24:11.079 --> 00:24:13.920
you saw that chance you know, you met, you f't

512
00:24:13.960 --> 00:24:18.920
up or whatever, But yeah, good storytelling. Gunther has surprisingly

513
00:24:19.000 --> 00:24:22.480
good comedic timing for a guy who's never shown that.

514
00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:23.480
So yeah, there is that.

515
00:24:23.400 --> 00:24:26.200
Possibility that he can go babyface. But I also do

516
00:24:26.279 --> 00:24:29.599
think that at some point Dom becomes a babyface and

517
00:24:29.640 --> 00:24:32.519
the crowd will eat it up because I think he's

518
00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:34.400
just you know, any anybody who comes out there with

519
00:24:34.400 --> 00:24:36.240
a mullet talking about chicken nuggets is going to be

520
00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:37.839
a fan favorite at some point. We saw it with

521
00:24:38.160 --> 00:24:41.160
The New Day and Pancakes for a long time, so yeah,

522
00:24:41.400 --> 00:24:44.279
it's it's it's laying the foundation kind of testing the

523
00:24:44.319 --> 00:24:47.200
waters on some things. It's also potential for you know,

524
00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:49.119
Finn to get a good singles push if they run

525
00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:50.359
that route as well, so.

526
00:24:50.559 --> 00:24:51.599
It'd be interesting where they go.

527
00:24:51.720 --> 00:24:53.519
But I thought it was a really really solid world

528
00:24:53.519 --> 00:24:56.039
title match, and we're gonna get more priests involved with

529
00:24:56.200 --> 00:24:59.319
Judgment Day, which you know, could be some good storytelling too,

530
00:24:59.359 --> 00:25:01.279
because for how many times we're gonna hear the name

531
00:25:01.400 --> 00:25:06.240
Edge mentioned ever since they got the trademark, you know, reinvigorated.

532
00:25:06.319 --> 00:25:10.240
I guess, yeah, I thought too on the whole Dom stuff,

533
00:25:10.640 --> 00:25:14.799
the backstage segment where Finn confronted gone through backstage. Did

534
00:25:14.839 --> 00:25:16.119
you see that on Raw Doctor Trey?

535
00:25:16.599 --> 00:25:16.799
Yeah?

536
00:25:16.880 --> 00:25:20.079
Yeah, where Dom kept doing the two fingers, Yeah, and

537
00:25:20.759 --> 00:25:23.079
Gunthro would look at him. He would he would do

538
00:25:23.119 --> 00:25:24.400
the two on the side, and he would look at

539
00:25:24.480 --> 00:25:26.880
him and then eventually swatted the fingers and the crowd

540
00:25:26.960 --> 00:25:28.279
ate it up, and all I thought to myself, and

541
00:25:28.359 --> 00:25:30.359
then it carried over to the match. I was like,

542
00:25:30.400 --> 00:25:33.599
there's some natural chemistry between these guys that we should

543
00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:34.839
like potentially harp on.

544
00:25:35.839 --> 00:25:40.200
Then there's such polar opposites the characters. I mean, Don's

545
00:25:40.279 --> 00:25:42.839
kind of Dom's kind of a goofy, heel in a

546
00:25:42.839 --> 00:25:46.000
lot of ways and gun throughs so straight laced. I mean,

547
00:25:46.319 --> 00:25:48.559
this would be one of those weird pairings that if

548
00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:51.960
they put him together, it's you know, you could do

549
00:25:52.119 --> 00:25:54.640
you know, is Daniel Bryan and Kin in a lot

550
00:25:54.640 --> 00:25:57.079
of ways and you can see, you know, one person

551
00:25:57.119 --> 00:25:59.000
bring out a little bit more of the other person.

552
00:25:59.039 --> 00:26:01.400
So I think you even if you paired them up

553
00:26:01.400 --> 00:26:05.440
and did a weird reunification of the United or the

554
00:26:05.559 --> 00:26:09.079
League of Nations, oh god, I know it was a

555
00:26:09.119 --> 00:26:13.440
bad given, but they do like pairing weird. You know,

556
00:26:13.480 --> 00:26:15.119
it's like, oh, we're gonna have all these all these

557
00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:17.119
black guys together, We're gonna have all these foreign guys.

558
00:26:17.160 --> 00:26:24.480
No anyway, gunther Dom working together would be hilarious.

559
00:26:24.640 --> 00:26:27.359
I've heard that Gunther is a very funny guy find

560
00:26:27.400 --> 00:26:29.920
the scenes and has a very good personality, which is

561
00:26:29.960 --> 00:26:32.920
not the same thing that you see on the television obviously,

562
00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:35.480
So I would not be shocked if these two guys

563
00:26:35.480 --> 00:26:37.200
are buddies behind the scenes, because it was really good

564
00:26:37.240 --> 00:26:40.079
comedic timing by both of them. So that's suff that

565
00:26:40.079 --> 00:26:42.279
people like when it's natural and like, holy shit, there's

566
00:26:42.319 --> 00:26:45.759
something here. And then finally, the main event Roman, Range,

567
00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:50.200
ju So, Jimmy us So, Samy's and and Seampunk defeats Soloska, Jacobato, Tamatunga, Tunga,

568
00:26:50.240 --> 00:26:52.880
Low and Bronson read in the men's war Games match,

569
00:26:52.920 --> 00:26:54.279
and both Dot Trey and I had the o G

570
00:26:54.400 --> 00:26:57.920
Bloodline winning this one. The storytelling this match was a masterclass,

571
00:26:57.960 --> 00:27:00.559
with a ton of moving parts and participants. The evolution

572
00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:02.599
and growth of the chapters from the Bloodline story or

573
00:27:02.599 --> 00:27:04.400
some of the best stuff I've ever seen in wrestling.

574
00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:07.319
The end with the OG Bloodline and Cmpunk surrounding Solo

575
00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:09.720
Sako before they finish the match, and Roman stretching out

576
00:27:09.759 --> 00:27:12.319
his arms to embrace Solo, only for Solo to have

577
00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:15.920
one last defiant moment before first considering the gesture was

578
00:27:16.079 --> 00:27:18.200
really well done and reminded me of something you would

579
00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:20.839
see like during a Star Wars movie. The Roman raids

580
00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:23.799
Cempunk interactions and what the favor is now has me

581
00:27:23.920 --> 00:27:26.559
really intrigued with where things are going. You would think

582
00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:29.160
the storyline reached its climax, but Michael Cole finished off

583
00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:31.440
the pl by mentioning that Solo is still in possession

584
00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:33.920
of the Ulafalla, which makes him the tribal chief. Still,

585
00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:36.119
I'm really interested to see where all of this goes,

586
00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:38.319
especially with where Jay Us, Sammy z Ay and Bronson

587
00:27:38.359 --> 00:27:40.839
read Cempunk and all the folks on the outside of

588
00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:43.559
the storyline go from here. This is a fun match,

589
00:27:43.599 --> 00:27:46.160
Doctor Trey. Your thoughts on this one, Yeah.

590
00:27:46.680 --> 00:27:47.519
Really really fun.

591
00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:52.359
I love that they get the storyline going, just the

592
00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:55.799
intricacies of the moving parts inside the cage that they

593
00:27:55.839 --> 00:27:57.640
would show where like one guy goes a step out,

594
00:27:57.720 --> 00:27:59.759
no no no not you him, no no no not.

595
00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:04.480
I love that stuff where the favor falls in because,

596
00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:07.960
especially like Punk's promo on Monday Night, kind of he

597
00:28:08.039 --> 00:28:09.440
already kind of knows where he's going.

598
00:28:09.599 --> 00:28:10.359
So like, all that.

599
00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:13.519
Stuff was so good, just really good storytelling, a really

600
00:28:13.559 --> 00:28:14.559
fun war games match.

601
00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:15.799
I don't know about you.

602
00:28:16.440 --> 00:28:19.400
I don't know if I put this above last year's,

603
00:28:20.359 --> 00:28:23.000
but it's really really close because this bloodline story is

604
00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:24.079
still so damn good.

605
00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:27.319
Oh it's amazing. I absolutely love it, and it just

606
00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:30.359
reminds me of stuff that you see in movies. So

607
00:28:31.559 --> 00:28:36.000
really enjoyable stuff, fun, fun, fun show. I'm getting emotional

608
00:28:36.079 --> 00:28:39.400
thinking about it. Pay per View Prediction Records. I went

609
00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:41.799
three and two. Doctor Trey went two and three. I'm

610
00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:43.839
one forty two and forty one. Doctor Trey is one

611
00:28:43.880 --> 00:28:46.839
twenty eight and fifty five. Match of the night and

612
00:28:46.960 --> 00:28:50.680
event rating. I gave Wargames a solid four point zero

613
00:28:50.720 --> 00:28:53.160
and my match the night was Men's Wargames match Doctor Trey.

614
00:28:54.200 --> 00:28:56.599
I went three point eight in Men's Wargame for me

615
00:28:56.680 --> 00:28:57.000
as well.

616
00:28:57.039 --> 00:28:59.039
By the way, on the predictions, I think at this point,

617
00:28:59.200 --> 00:29:01.880
like we don't have much left in the year, and

618
00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:04.279
you're smoking me, I think I just I'll let you

619
00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:06.160
go first, and all these predictions coming out for the

620
00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:08.359
rest of the year, and I'm just gonna pick the opposite.

621
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:10.680
So either you're gonna completely smoke me by the end

622
00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:12.680
of the year or that's my That's gonna be my

623
00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:14.039
methodology for trying to catch up.

624
00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:15.359
You just don't want to have fun. You don't want

625
00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:15.839
to have fun with it.

626
00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:18.559
If you want to, I will come up.

627
00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:20.680
Look, I will fantasy book this to where you guys

628
00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:23.039
are believing that I'm gonna that I my prediction is

629
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:23.680
actually true.

630
00:29:24.319 --> 00:29:28.039
So what's roll my friend? With that said, feel free

631
00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:30.119
to chime in at Estra to You podcast on x

632
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:33.599
or Facebook dot com. Slash stile routa show keeping with

633
00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:36.200
the we Doctor Trey. There was a very what I

634
00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:39.160
think will go down as a memorable moment here on

635
00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:41.720
this past Monday's edition of Raw, we had the New

636
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:44.400
Day celebrating ten years one of the most established and

637
00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:48.359
decorated tag teams and professional wrestling history in the modern era.

638
00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:52.960
And during that segment where they've been teasing dissension between

639
00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:56.480
Biggie and excuse me, excuse Koche Kingston and Xavier Woods,

640
00:29:56.880 --> 00:29:59.880
Biggie makes a return. They kicked Biggie out and now

641
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:03.559
they are aligned together e Xavier and Kofe at kinkson

642
00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:07.119
as heels. What did you think of the segment and

643
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:10.640
is there hope that maybe Biggie's career is not over yet?

644
00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:13.559
So a couple of things for me on this one.

645
00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:15.440
The segment is self.

646
00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:18.960
The ring segment I thought was really good and it

647
00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:21.400
got emotional, it got a little touching. I mean, just

648
00:30:21.519 --> 00:30:24.160
the acting from all three of these guys was really

649
00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:27.880
well done. I don't like that they kind of shot

650
00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:30.839
gunned it into one segment though. If we had seen

651
00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:35.000
some Biggie interaction the last week or two trying to

652
00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:38.079
keep the peace to lead up to Biggie coming out saying, hey,

653
00:30:38.160 --> 00:30:40.720
I will be with you guys, side by side, and

654
00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:42.480
then that led into it. I probably would have ate

655
00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:45.000
it up little bit more, but this is the most

656
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:48.160
logical way to get Kofe over as a heel. Xavier

657
00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:50.400
Woods could be a heel, and I think the people

658
00:30:50.440 --> 00:30:53.720
would eat that up. Kofe is so well liked I

659
00:30:53.920 --> 00:30:57.039
really outside of what when A New Day first got together,

660
00:30:57.160 --> 00:30:59.319
is the only time I could think of Kofe being

661
00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:02.480
a heel on the main roster, Like, that's the only

662
00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:05.240
way you could probably get Kofe over as a heal

663
00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:07.920
is for him to side with Woods and turn their

664
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:10.799
back on an injured Biggie. And look, I love the

665
00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:13.519
fact that they referenced all the previous neck injuries. I

666
00:31:13.640 --> 00:31:15.920
love the fact that, you know, Woods brought up his

667
00:31:16.160 --> 00:31:18.519
his achilles injury and all these things, and Biggie's still

668
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:21.680
not back. I didn't realize it'd been four years since

669
00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:23.960
Biggie had been back. I mean, that was I didn't

670
00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:27.319
realize it's been that long. But yeah, I'm hopeful that

671
00:31:27.599 --> 00:31:29.799
it's not the end of Biggie's career because Biggie on

672
00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:31.720
the mic in that ring was so good, Like you

673
00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:36.720
forget how just entertaining and naturally charismatic he is at

674
00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:39.519
times because we don't get to see it that often anymore,

675
00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:43.480
it does lend hope that we might get Biggie back.

676
00:31:43.559 --> 00:31:45.480
And by the way, the stuff on social media as

677
00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:48.400
well has been really entertaining, with Woods taking shots at

678
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:53.160
Biggie's girlfriend as well in her cooking. So just really

679
00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:55.559
really good storytelling. I just wish it had been stretched

680
00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:58.640
out just a little bit to lead into that.

681
00:31:59.279 --> 00:32:00.880
So where do we go from here? In your mind?

682
00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:02.960
Is what is your thoughts? Is this just something that

683
00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:05.240
they were able to get rid of Biggie and now

684
00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:07.400
they're going to be heels, or do we think Biggie

685
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:10.519
makes an n ring return here sooner rather than later.

686
00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:12.759
Is this something we could look at for a WrestleMania match.

687
00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:16.319
Possibly, But then, like I mean, I don't know, it

688
00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:17.119
is one of these things.

689
00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:19.200
It's it's kind of like, you know, and Shawn Michaels

690
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:21.240
came back, like, if you're going to come back, you

691
00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:22.839
want to be in the ring with somebody you love

692
00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:25.880
and trust, you know, And we've seen that with other

693
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:28.039
guys when they've come back, like their first match back

694
00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:29.960
as usually with somebody that they know is going to

695
00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:33.079
take care of them in the Ring, I we really

696
00:32:33.160 --> 00:32:36.640
have never gotten any clarity recently on Biggie's injury. We

697
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:38.920
heard Biggie talk about he's been getting X rays and

698
00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:42.799
scans and tests and everything else done. Right now, I

699
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:45.319
just think that this was the only way to get

700
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:48.519
the New Day over as heels. So I think it's

701
00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:50.720
kind of a one off for now and just kind

702
00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:54.599
of pending if Biggie can come back, because, like I said,

703
00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:58.000
I don't know else you make Kofi a heel other

704
00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:01.920
than to turn his back on Biggie. He's so well

705
00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:05.160
liked and people still remember Kofe Madia and all the

706
00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:06.160
feel good stuff there.

707
00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:08.200
It's he was one of the hardest.

708
00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:10.480
Guys I could picture turning heel, and I think they

709
00:33:10.599 --> 00:33:13.319
pulled it off with this angle because of how sympathetic

710
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:14.640
big Eie situation is.

711
00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:19.839
Yeah, it's interesting. It's definitely one or both ways, right.

712
00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:22.400
I think it's something that leads to Biggie coming back,

713
00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:24.359
or this was their way of kind of putting an

714
00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:27.400
end to the New Day chapter, which is interesting because

715
00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:29.880
they in interviews would be similar to like the guys

716
00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:31.160
in the Shield that were like, we never wanted to

717
00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:33.039
break up, We didn't want to change characters. Then they

718
00:33:33.119 --> 00:33:35.519
did it. I think it's a move that they needed

719
00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:37.319
to do for their careers at this point, Doctor Dre.

720
00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:40.960
Yeah, I mean they've I mean Woods has talked about

721
00:33:41.519 --> 00:33:44.039
like wanting to be heal, like he's talked about it,

722
00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:46.160
but Koffee's always just been kind of like, hey, whatever

723
00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:48.680
they need me to do, like I'm happy doing this. Plus,

724
00:33:48.759 --> 00:33:50.000
you guys got to look at it if when you

725
00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:53.440
go heal, you're gonna lose money because your merch sales

726
00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:56.240
are going to go down. So you have to have

727
00:33:56.599 --> 00:33:58.279
if you're gonna do something like this for especially for

728
00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:00.359
a team like The New Day that basically baby faces

729
00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:03.079
the last nine and a half years or nine years

730
00:34:03.119 --> 00:34:06.160
out of this whole run, Like you're gonna take a

731
00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:07.720
little bit of a financial hit by doing this, So

732
00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:10.840
you gotta have some promises that, hey, if we do

733
00:34:11.159 --> 00:34:13.119
this and we do go heal and we do fresh

734
00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:15.440
of the characters, you know, we got to get a

735
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:16.960
push out of me. If the New Day goes heal

736
00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:20.039
and they just keep getting they start they continue losing

737
00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:22.960
what was the purpose the purpose of them turning.

738
00:34:23.079 --> 00:34:25.960
So I'm sure they have some assurances. I'm looking just

739
00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:27.360
to see how refreshed this is.

740
00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:30.199
Because Xavier's so good on the microphone, and you know

741
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:33.159
we've talked about on the show years ago with having

742
00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:34.320
multiple PhDs.

743
00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:35.800
He's so fantastic he.

744
00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:38.400
Can he can lure somebody in with such a good

745
00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:41.599
story on the microphone that he's the perfect kind of

746
00:34:41.719 --> 00:34:44.119
heal in this sense, it was just kind of getting

747
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:46.280
KOFE to go along with it and get the crowd

748
00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:48.760
to boom both of them, which is why I think

749
00:34:48.840 --> 00:34:50.719
the tension they had teased for so long was kind

750
00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:53.239
of working and putting them at a crossroads.

751
00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:57.920
Switching gears here, Doctor Trey with potentially losing money and

752
00:34:57.960 --> 00:34:59.599
feel friend of chime me on your thoughts in regards

753
00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:02.400
to the new hit us up on Twitter at SRT

754
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:08.559
podcast is AW. I feel like we need to have

755
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:13.239
a discussion here about how we approach AW coverage in

756
00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:16.400
twenty twenty five. And I have a whole bunch of

757
00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:20.559
data that I want to bring up. And I saw

758
00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:23.159
the viewership for last night's Dynamite and like this either

759
00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:27.119
even furthers it more for me. Last Night's Dynamite got

760
00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:30.800
five hundred and eighty six thousand viewers. It was a

761
00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:33.639
solid episode, was a fine episode, but that is I mean,

762
00:35:33.719 --> 00:35:37.280
they are tanking right now. I don't even know if

763
00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:39.599
there was anything on that would like steer people away

764
00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:42.159
from not watching AW. I mean, this is something that

765
00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:46.039
was generally getting eight hundred thousand views and now is

766
00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:48.440
getting five hundred eighty six thousand. This is also coming

767
00:35:48.480 --> 00:35:50.840
off and granted it was Saturday at four pm Eastern

768
00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:53.559
and also Saturday night at six o'clock, you're going up

769
00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:59.400
against NXT excuse me, WRS series Wargames, and they got

770
00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:02.920
like one hundred forty four thousand viewers for Collision and

771
00:36:03.039 --> 00:36:05.480
like one hundred and twenty four thousand viewers for Rampage.

772
00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:08.199
I'm like, this is this is bad. This is really bad.

773
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:11.719
But what it all started with was an interview that

774
00:36:11.840 --> 00:36:15.719
Bill Simmons did with Matt Beloney back in November twenty

775
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:18.159
second for the Bill Simmons Podcast, and they were talking

776
00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:22.480
about Warner Brothers, Discovery Sports, Right Values, and Brandon Thurston,

777
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:25.880
who is who's huge on X he has Russell Nomis

778
00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:30.800
shared it pointed out how they mentioned in the interview

779
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:33.480
of the arrow has been pointing down for AAW, which

780
00:36:33.599 --> 00:36:37.079
Bill Simmons referred to as the discount WWE, and they

781
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:40.440
talk about AW and their struggles and the Warner Brothers

782
00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:43.199
getting all the stuff with the sports right media rights

783
00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:45.559
that they had, you know, the lost NBA and getting

784
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:50.599
AW and what have you. And Thurston shares this data

785
00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:53.119
to back it up. And in twenty twenty four year

786
00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:56.960
to date, which was November twenty second versus twenty twenty

787
00:36:57.000 --> 00:36:59.960
three as of the same week for Dynamite, there were

788
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:04.719
been a seventeen percent drop in viewership, nineteen percent drop

789
00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:10.800
in demo. He went through cord cutting to address that argument,

790
00:37:11.239 --> 00:37:14.480
and he went through the filings for MVPDs and estimated

791
00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:18.159
others traditional PATV is down about five percent to six

792
00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:22.000
percent lar largely offset by alternatives like YouTube TV. But

793
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:24.800
even if we just go with traditional carriers negative twelve percent,

794
00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:28.559
less negative than the Delta's above. In the previous statistic

795
00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:32.239
that I shared, he showed from wrestle Tics average tickets

796
00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:35.119
outs twenty twenty four year today versus twenty twenty three,

797
00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:39.559
Dynamite was down twenty six percent thirty seven hundred from

798
00:37:39.639 --> 00:37:43.199
five thousand the year previous collision, down thirty eight percent

799
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:46.960
twenty six hundred from forty two hundred to the year previous.

800
00:37:48.039 --> 00:37:51.519
And I have been thinking about this for some time

801
00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:54.639
Doctor Trey and I don't expect an answer potentially on

802
00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:56.800
this podcast, but we're gonna have a production meeting on

803
00:37:56.880 --> 00:37:59.519
the air. I mean, this is getting close to the

804
00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:01.599
point where it's like, do we really want to cover

805
00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:08.159
AW as regularly as we want to or do presently

806
00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:10.639
versus what WWE is doing right now. And I think

807
00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:12.679
anybody's been a long time listener would say, well, you

808
00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:15.800
didn't give up one so easy, why would you do

809
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:18.400
it for AW? And that is a very very fair point.

810
00:38:18.880 --> 00:38:21.199
But WWE is still getting one point five one point

811
00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:24.639
seven million viewers people on their YouTube page. It is

812
00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:27.920
usually between like two hundred thousand viewers two a million

813
00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:30.800
viewers AW. I went on their YouTube page, it's like

814
00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:34.880
sixty seven thousand viewers here, twenty thousand viewers there, and

815
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:37.760
it's like, well, this is not good. And it reminds

816
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:41.199
me of how I would look at TNA. I think

817
00:38:41.199 --> 00:38:43.199
as a wrestling fan. I've talked about this on the show.

818
00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:47.360
If I didn't do a wrestling podcast, I don't think

819
00:38:47.400 --> 00:38:51.159
I would watch AW as regularly as I do, or

820
00:38:51.239 --> 00:38:53.320
as frequently, as I do. I would watch it on

821
00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:55.280
DVR and like when I had nothing else to do,

822
00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:59.239
or I would watch the YouTube recap videos. AW is

823
00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:02.320
is sinking right now, and I'm very saddened by this

824
00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:04.079
because there was a period of time where I remember,

825
00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:06.000
coming out of All Out twenty twenty one, I'm like,

826
00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:08.320
I don't think I can cover WE anymore. I just

827
00:39:08.360 --> 00:39:11.679
want to cover AW and it's they've completely reversed course.

828
00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:14.400
I watched WE, we watched the og bloodline, blood Line

829
00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:17.559
two point zero, and it's riveting. You watch AW and

830
00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:22.480
it's boring. That Death Writer's storyline is boring. Mercedes mone

831
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:26.920
is boring right now. There is intrigue there. I'm intrigued

832
00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:29.960
by the Hangman page J White, Orange Cassidy against the

833
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:32.880
Death Riders stuff. I like the Continental Classic. I like

834
00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:36.320
the innering work, but it's like boring. And somebody pointed

835
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:39.719
out that will Osprey came out for Collision and got

836
00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:42.679
like barely reaction, and eight months ago he was the

837
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:46.760
loudest pop in the building, and I thought I was crazy.

838
00:39:47.159 --> 00:39:50.320
People were talking about how good they were from a

839
00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:54.119
storyline perspective, from like the beginning of the year, like

840
00:39:54.199 --> 00:39:58.000
Revolution time to all in, all out and it's completely

841
00:39:58.039 --> 00:40:01.360
fallen off a cliff since And it couldn't be more true.

842
00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:05.079
It's like they lack direction, they lack build. The matches

843
00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:09.440
are good, storylines are boring. Viewership is diminishing. And this

844
00:40:09.559 --> 00:40:12.119
is from a podcast perspective here, folks, like, if people

845
00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:16.400
are not tuning into AW, is it worth Doctor Trey's time,

846
00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:18.840
my time to talk about it regularly?

847
00:40:18.920 --> 00:40:19.199
Here? Like?

848
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:22.519
Are people tuning out when we preview and predict AW

849
00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:24.880
World's n in a couple of weeks? Are they tuning

850
00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:27.440
out when we do a recap on that pay per view?

851
00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:30.480
Do we look into twenty twenty five and just cover

852
00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:34.599
WWE pay per views and the occasional AW pay per view?

853
00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:38.880
This year, counting NXT deadline, Doctor Trey and I will

854
00:40:38.920 --> 00:40:41.360
have covered twenty eight pay per views. World's end will

855
00:40:41.360 --> 00:40:44.199
make it twenty nine. That is a record that's nearly

856
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:48.639
one every episode of the year we're doing a preview,

857
00:40:48.679 --> 00:40:51.000
prediction or a recap of a pay per view. So

858
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:56.079
it's a roundabout way of saying Doctor Trey is AW

859
00:40:56.280 --> 00:40:58.599
falling off a map where our listeners don't give a

860
00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:01.360
shit anymore, falling off the map where you and I

861
00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:04.360
don't give a shit anymore, and is it a sustainable

862
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:07.559
wrestling promotion that we should be covering this regular this

863
00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:09.159
we do your thoughts.

864
00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:15.280
That's a lot to unpack in those data. So so

865
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:17.679
I you know, the comparison to.

866
00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:21.519
What we did back in the day when TNA when

867
00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:23.760
they went to the Monday Night Wars for a little

868
00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:26.039
bit or you know, and they went live head to

869
00:41:26.079 --> 00:41:28.760
head and we were covering both shows and it kind

870
00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:31.000
of fell off a cliff shortly thereafter and we kind

871
00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:33.960
of stopped watching and it kind of dissipated us, and

872
00:41:34.280 --> 00:41:35.679
we got a lot of flak. I mean, you remember,

873
00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:37.159
we got a lot of flak for a little while

874
00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:40.079
about fans coming out like why aren't you covering TNA.

875
00:41:40.159 --> 00:41:42.519
It's like, well, there's nothing to cover. The show's awful

876
00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:45.519
and nobody's watching it, so why are we covering it?

877
00:41:46.199 --> 00:41:48.039
In a lot of way, you remember, like they were

878
00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:50.079
bragging that, like people were giving them crap because they

879
00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:52.920
drew a million viewers. Oh they only got a million.

880
00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:55.639
We're talking about a show it's only drawing five hundred thousand.

881
00:41:56.440 --> 00:41:59.599
So it is kind of in that weird realm. But

882
00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:03.440
the difference is there's so much money in this product,

883
00:42:03.599 --> 00:42:05.840
is kind of hard not to cover it because they're

884
00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:08.800
always going to make news. There's always gonna be something

885
00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:11.320
coming out about them, So it's it's a little bit

886
00:42:11.519 --> 00:42:14.000
different than TA Like when I watched the show, it

887
00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:15.760
just reminds me of playing a video game. Like the

888
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:19.000
matches are fun to watch, but there's no depth, there's

889
00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:20.519
nothing behind it.

890
00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:24.639
It's all it's all just uh sizzle. It's all sizzle

891
00:42:24.679 --> 00:42:25.960
and no steak. You know.

892
00:42:26.239 --> 00:42:29.239
It's It's great to watch if I if you like watching,

893
00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:30.960
if you're one of those people that love watching people

894
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:35.159
play video games on YouTube, aw's for you. But for

895
00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:38.039
people like me and Jeff that like good television, it's

896
00:42:38.199 --> 00:42:41.800
not a great product to watch as a television show

897
00:42:41.880 --> 00:42:44.599
because I need a little more substance. I need the

898
00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:46.920
fact that, like The Death Writer, Angle should be really fun.

899
00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:49.119
But they like the people they are up against them

900
00:42:49.239 --> 00:42:51.960
is hang Man, Jay White and Orange Cassie. Well, hang

901
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:53.840
Man and Jay White just been feuding for a while

902
00:42:54.320 --> 00:42:57.360
and there's no real reason, viable reason I watching this

903
00:42:57.480 --> 00:43:01.000
to see why they can be potentially up in this

904
00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:04.159
situation other than the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

905
00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:07.639
Like, I mean, there could be more depth to you.

906
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:11.000
And once again it's also the top guys are not

907
00:43:11.199 --> 00:43:13.719
involved in the storyline to go up against the top

908
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:16.559
eel faction, So why should I care?

909
00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:19.440
And if these are your top guys, they haven't been

910
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:22.119
booked like top guys for a long time.

911
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:26.400
Like's it's this is not like you know, Sina Orton

912
00:43:26.480 --> 00:43:28.760
and Batisa teaming up to take on the Shield, Like

913
00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:31.519
it's not on that level. This is like you know,

914
00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:35.679
Zach Ryder Kofi and you know Evan Bourne taking on

915
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:37.280
the Shield in a lot of ways based on how

916
00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:42.119
the booking's been. So I am torn because no matter

917
00:43:43.199 --> 00:43:46.320
no matter what happens, because they're a billion dollar company,

918
00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:49.079
and because up until the merger they had more money

919
00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:53.199
than Vince, they're always gonna make news. There's always gonna

920
00:43:53.239 --> 00:43:55.199
be something out there about them. And we like we,

921
00:43:55.480 --> 00:43:57.119
you know, kind of comment off air about the whole

922
00:43:57.639 --> 00:43:59.880
you know, Ryan Nemeth stuff. I mean that made new

923
00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:02.679
Like they're going to make news, and if they make news,

924
00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:04.480
we kind of have to cover it. The great thing

925
00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:08.320
about TNA was once Hogan and Bischoff were gone, there

926
00:44:08.519 --> 00:44:09.679
was no news.

927
00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:12.960
About them really out there. Other than just the wrestling product.

928
00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:16.719
So I think almost just because of the noise that

929
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:19.760
they make and the noise that their diehards make, were

930
00:44:19.800 --> 00:44:22.320
almost obligated to cover it. But it's going to be

931
00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:25.199
like when your mom made liver and she told you

932
00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:28.039
you had to eat it or you wouldn't get a dessert.

933
00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:30.199
That's kind of how I feel about it right now.

934
00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:32.559
I feel like, AW is that liver that I have

935
00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:35.039
to eat in order for me to do a podcast

936
00:44:35.079 --> 00:44:36.599
talk about how great WWE is.

937
00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:40.920
Yeah, I think you know, it's like, would you want

938
00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:43.119
to cover the pay per views as extensive? At least

939
00:44:43.119 --> 00:44:47.480
we do in twenty twenty five, right, there's still always

940
00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:50.039
going to be AW news. And the other thing that

941
00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:53.559
I'm having trouble with is, you know, say AW catches

942
00:44:53.599 --> 00:44:56.239
fire again, which they've done plenty of times, and it's like,

943
00:44:56.639 --> 00:44:57.920
do we not want to be covering the pay per

944
00:44:57.960 --> 00:45:00.519
views because they've been shit the last fourth five months?

945
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:03.800
I don't know. It's I feel like it's something that

946
00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:05.119
I want to throw out there with you, and I

947
00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:07.159
want our listeners to respond as well, like do you

948
00:45:07.199 --> 00:45:10.360
want to see THEAW coverage lesson? Do you want it

949
00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:11.920
to say the same do you want it to be

950
00:45:12.039 --> 00:45:13.480
more like where are we at with this?

951
00:45:14.599 --> 00:45:18.159
I mean, for us, one issue is the gd pay

952
00:45:18.199 --> 00:45:22.159
per views are so damn long. You know, we just

953
00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:24.639
covered a pay per view for WWE that we gave that.

954
00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:25.639
You gave a four to that.

955
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:29.559
I gave it three point a two that had five matches, yeah,

956
00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:31.760
in and out, two and a half hours, three hours

957
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:36.719
tops aw, fourteen matches, five hour shows like that. I

958
00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:38.960
mean that's not even count sometimes that's not even counting

959
00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:42.199
the pre show, Like, dear God, guys, like tone it

960
00:45:42.280 --> 00:45:45.280
down a little bit, but you know, you're right. And

961
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:47.159
that's the other thing. Like we always comment though that

962
00:45:47.239 --> 00:45:50.400
typically their pay per views are really good. It's all

963
00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:53.239
the stuff getting to the pay per view that is

964
00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:55.880
kind of garbage. And it's like, if do I have

965
00:45:56.039 --> 00:45:59.880
to watch three shows that I'm going to dread watching

966
00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:05.079
each week to get to a pretty decent pay per view.

967
00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:06.840
If they just put on a little bit better television

968
00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:09.400
during the week, we wouldn't have a problem cover the

969
00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:12.320
pay per view. It's just all the garbage you have

970
00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:14.639
to sift through to get to a compelling pay per

971
00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:17.440
view is what kind of feels like a drain you

972
00:46:17.519 --> 00:46:20.199
know so, and you're right, like they could catch fire

973
00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:22.599
any moment. It just takes and I've talked about this

974
00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:26.440
for four years with this brand, it just takes one

975
00:46:26.559 --> 00:46:30.639
guy to catch fire and awlb be right back. They

976
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:35.119
just they can't figure out who's the guy. Like there's

977
00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:37.639
no Austin, there's no scene it, there's no Kode, there's

978
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:40.639
nobody that they're going that's our guy. This whole show

979
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:42.920
is built around this guy, and we're gonna make the

980
00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:46.159
fans either love this guy or hate this guy, no ambivalence,

981
00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:48.760
pick one side or the other. And we're gonna, for

982
00:46:48.920 --> 00:46:51.559
lack of a return, show him down your throat like

983
00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:54.800
the other company did with their top guys. They haven't

984
00:46:54.920 --> 00:46:56.840
done that, and that's one of the reasons they're in

985
00:46:56.880 --> 00:46:58.000
that situation they're in now.

986
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:02.039
I guess we're kind of in the same boat right now,

987
00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:04.320
doctor Trey, where I think we may be leaning towards

988
00:47:04.400 --> 00:47:07.079
potentially not covering them as extensively as we did in

989
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:08.800
twenty twenty five when it comes to like the pay

990
00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:10.599
per views and recaps and what have you.

991
00:47:11.440 --> 00:47:13.639
I mean, maybe we just cut the predictions down, like

992
00:47:13.800 --> 00:47:16.039
we just kind of decide on like what six matches

993
00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:18.239
on the show, we're going to do predictions on instead

994
00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:21.039
of doing fourteen. I mean, I don't I don't really

995
00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:23.519
know how to that's the issue. I don't really know

996
00:47:23.599 --> 00:47:25.199
how to cut it back.

997
00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:27.679
Well, I don't think you ignore the the riview happen,

998
00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:30.480
but maybe you like, hey, did you watch Full Gear?

999
00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:32.159
Like what were the things that set out to you?

1000
00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:34.639
And that's the conversation rather than match by match.

1001
00:47:35.159 --> 00:47:37.880
I haven't watched the episode Dynamite in like two months.

1002
00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:40.119
See that's what I'm saying, Like, I think it's getting

1003
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:42.840
to the point where, you know, outside of them maybe

1004
00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:45.840
being noteworthy of the Ryan nemmath stuff for this week, right,

1005
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:50.559
that's a big story, but like being extensive on the

1006
00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:52.840
same level as WW right now for pay per views

1007
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:56.519
and stuff like that. Pls. It's mean in twenty twenty five,

1008
00:47:56.599 --> 00:48:00.320
it's it's different. Maybe this this World's end is is

1009
00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:02.079
potentially the end of pay per for your coverage for

1010
00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:03.039
AW on our show.

1011
00:48:03.239 --> 00:48:05.199
I mean maybe in twenty twenty five, starting in January,

1012
00:48:05.239 --> 00:48:07.440
we just put them on a prove it scale, Like look,

1013
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:10.159
if you guys, if it turns around, we'll go back

1014
00:48:10.239 --> 00:48:12.880
to covering it as much as we do, but until

1015
00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:16.719
you guys show us something like once the end, Like

1016
00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:18.800
why am I gonna waste my time with something that's

1017
00:48:18.800 --> 00:48:19.760
always gonna disappoint me?

1018
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:20.639
You know?

1019
00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:24.159
That's the thing is, It's like we could be doing

1020
00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:27.800
so much other stuff right than watching aw product. I mean,

1021
00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:31.239
ramp Page is boring, Collision is boring. Dynamite and has

1022
00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:33.760
had is always a show that we have felt like delivers.

1023
00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:38.960
Collision has their moments. It's just look, I love I

1024
00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:39.559
love this.

1025
00:48:40.039 --> 00:48:42.719
You've been my site, You've been my partner for a

1026
00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:46.039
decade and a half. I give you all the props

1027
00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:48.159
in the world for actually watching Collision at Rampage.

1028
00:48:48.519 --> 00:48:49.159
I'll do it, man.

1029
00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:53.280
I was like, I admire you and respect you for

1030
00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:56.840
getting I tuned out of those two shows a year ago,

1031
00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:00.119
like I was literally just watching Dynamite, And then the

1032
00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:02.079
last two months I've had to give up on Dynamite

1033
00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:05.039
and I've just been watching YouTube highlights in recaps and

1034
00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:07.480
then just trying to get to the pay per views.

1035
00:49:08.119 --> 00:49:09.880
And my week would be a little bit more free

1036
00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:13.000
if we didn't cover it as extensively.

1037
00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:15.599
So and you can't blame Luke guys, guys, I know

1038
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:17.199
you guys are listening going, oh, Jeff has a kid.

1039
00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:19.480
No, it's not Luke. It literally is the product.

1040
00:49:19.679 --> 00:49:23.199
No, the product sucks, it really does it. It's not good.

1041
00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:26.239
It's really not good. And it's unlike, this is boring.

1042
00:49:26.559 --> 00:49:29.800
It's it has its moments, but overall it's boring.

1043
00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:30.519
It really is.

1044
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:32.320
Feel free to check man. We definitely want to hear

1045
00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:34.840
from you guys at Assart to You podcast on xor

1046
00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:38.119
Facebook dot com, slash a Realta show. Let's get to

1047
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:41.039
this Saturday's pay per view Doctor Trey NX Deadline preview

1048
00:49:41.119 --> 00:49:44.800
predictions from the Minneapolis Armory in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Doctor Tray

1049
00:49:44.800 --> 00:49:46.320
has asked me to go first for every single one

1050
00:49:46.360 --> 00:49:50.199
because he will do the opposite. So I will start here.

1051
00:49:50.280 --> 00:49:53.920
NXC Underground Match. I've got Lolavice, Doctor Trey. I've got

1052
00:49:53.960 --> 00:49:56.719
the other person, Jada Parker low of Ice versus Jada Parker.

1053
00:49:57.480 --> 00:50:00.760
Nathan Frazer and Axiom defending against the North No Quarter

1054
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:03.000
Ketch Crew Miles Bourne and Tavion Heights for the NXC

1055
00:50:03.079 --> 00:50:05.599
Tag Team Championship. I'm going to go with No Quarter

1056
00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:08.679
Catch Crew. However, if Nathan Fraser an Axiom win, Doctor Trey,

1057
00:50:09.360 --> 00:50:11.280
I actually think they may be one of the top

1058
00:50:11.360 --> 00:50:13.159
favorites for Tag Team of the Year for End of

1059
00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:13.719
the Year show.

1060
00:50:14.440 --> 00:50:15.360
And see this one here.

1061
00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:18.199
I love this because Party really wants to pick the

1062
00:50:19.480 --> 00:50:22.480
No Quarter Catch Crew, because you got Charlie Demse, you

1063
00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:25.079
got the William Regal factor lingering in the background. I

1064
00:50:25.199 --> 00:50:27.840
would really want to pick them, but actually Nathan Fraser.

1065
00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:30.760
Every time I have picked against them, they have won,

1066
00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:35.119
So I'm going to pick them plus Nathan Fraser Rocket

1067
00:50:35.199 --> 00:50:35.760
City Alumni.

1068
00:50:36.519 --> 00:50:39.280
Next match year is Trick Williams defending the NXC Championship

1069
00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:41.719
against Ridge Holland. I'm going with Trick Williams.

1070
00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:45.400
I'm gonna go with Ridge Holland because as much as

1071
00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:48.320
I like Trick, he's still very green and I don't

1072
00:50:48.400 --> 00:50:51.320
think this win has elevated him at all. I think

1073
00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:54.119
putting the title on Ridge would actually really help establish

1074
00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:57.440
another top heel on the brand, and then you kind

1075
00:50:57.440 --> 00:50:59.400
of even it out with between Heath and Page, Ridge

1076
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:03.400
Holland and the soon to returning Obafemi. Uh kind of

1077
00:51:03.440 --> 00:51:05.320
evens things out. So I'm gonna take rich Holland because

1078
00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:09.400
you can't take down a university and not win the title.

1079
00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:14.000
Next match here, Sol Rukas, Stephanie vak Kor, Zaria Julian

1080
00:51:14.119 --> 00:51:16.599
ren Sinclair, and the Women's aront Survivor Challenge match the

1081
00:51:16.679 --> 00:51:18.400
term of the number one contender for the NXC Women's

1082
00:51:18.480 --> 00:51:21.159
Championship at New Year's Evil. I have Julia in this one,

1083
00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:21.880
Doctor Trey.

1084
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:25.400
I'm gonna take Stephanie Vacor. Then is that she's She's

1085
00:51:25.400 --> 00:51:27.519
in the mattress, She's in the match. She is have

1086
00:51:27.639 --> 00:51:30.360
a lot of names there. I do like Julia, I

1087
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:32.840
love her energy and everything else. But I just like

1088
00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:36.159
how rugged and tough Stephanie Vakor is, and I think

1089
00:51:36.239 --> 00:51:38.599
she's kind of the forgotten person out of these new

1090
00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:41.960
recruits coming in. I think everybody's focusing on Julia. I

1091
00:51:41.960 --> 00:51:44.840
think Stephanie va Kor is a great pick to go

1092
00:51:44.920 --> 00:51:47.400
with here. And then you stay save Julia for whard

1093
00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:49.760
you get closer to Rumble or WrestleMania.

1094
00:51:50.360 --> 00:51:53.360
And then finally, the Men's I Survivor Challenge matches determined

1095
00:51:53.360 --> 00:51:55.880
the number one contender for the NXC Men's Championship at

1096
00:51:55.880 --> 00:52:00.719
New Year's Evil. It's wes Lee, Javian Evans, Nathan Fraser,

1097
00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:03.800
Ethan Page, and Eddie Thorpe. For now, I guess Eddie Thorpe.

1098
00:52:03.840 --> 00:52:06.320
For now, I am gonna take wes Lee, Doctor Trey.

1099
00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:09.119
Is this because every time you pick against wes Lee

1100
00:52:09.199 --> 00:52:09.599
he wins.

1101
00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:12.559
That is that you're reasoning every time I pick against

1102
00:52:12.599 --> 00:52:13.280
him he loses.

1103
00:52:13.840 --> 00:52:17.360
Yeah, So, well, since I picked Ridge Holland to win

1104
00:52:17.360 --> 00:52:19.280
the nixtys title, I gotta pick a baby face to

1105
00:52:19.360 --> 00:52:24.320
win this. So I'm gonna take Jabon Evans because once

1106
00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:26.599
again local guy, A lot of my friends know him,

1107
00:52:26.679 --> 00:52:29.440
and then b he would be a great first challenger

1108
00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:31.679
for Ridge Hanks. I don't think anybody thinks he's ready

1109
00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:34.760
to win the Sea Championship, but he could be very

1110
00:52:34.800 --> 00:52:37.360
similar baby face for Ridge to get his first victory over.

1111
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:39.960
So I'll take Jamie on Evans. There you go.

1112
00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:44.639
There's our preview predictions for NXC Deadline this Saturday on Peacock.

1113
00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:47.639
With that said, yes, doctor Trey, I.

1114
00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:49.440
Said, I'm going oh for the entire show.

1115
00:52:49.519 --> 00:52:51.440
But you imagine if you go five and h like

1116
00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:53.880
you are never again picking the same person as me.

1117
00:52:54.079 --> 00:52:55.960
Yeah, well that would that would require That would means

1118
00:52:55.960 --> 00:52:58.039
that you went probably like two because at least the

1119
00:52:58.079 --> 00:53:01.239
Iron Survivoran Challenge, there's the possibility that neither of us

1120
00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:04.800
get those matches correct, true, so, but everything else we

1121
00:53:04.920 --> 00:53:06.360
might go like you know, split there.

1122
00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:07.920
So I might go oh and three, you go three

1123
00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:09.280
and oh, but then we miss those.

1124
00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:11.280
But yeah, if I go five and oh, just by

1125
00:53:11.320 --> 00:53:13.800
being an a hole and picking against you, I will

1126
00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:15.719
get a T shirt made saying that I am the

1127
00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:16.719
brown eyed bastard.

1128
00:53:17.960 --> 00:53:21.119
There you go, stay tuned, folks, and then let's see

1129
00:53:21.119 --> 00:53:22.679
a couple of plugs and sponsors out of the way.

1130
00:53:22.719 --> 00:53:24.599
You can do only show every Thursday or Friday at

1131
00:53:24.639 --> 00:53:27.159
Real Guy Radio dot com, Wrestle chattinget on X and

1132
00:53:27.239 --> 00:53:29.960
a still Real to Show iTunes feed. Don't forget to rate,

1133
00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:32.159
review and subscribe to help us con charts on iTunes.

1134
00:53:32.159 --> 00:53:33.960
You can follo us individual on X for myself at

1135
00:53:34.039 --> 00:53:36.639
srt you Jeff, and for Doctor Trey Franklin The Doctor

1136
00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:38.400
Trey And of course don't for follow a show on

1137
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:41.599
X at SRTU podcast. With that being said, what is

1138
00:53:41.639 --> 00:53:43.400
going on the one for World of doct Trey Franklin

1139
00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:44.039
this week?

1140
00:53:44.639 --> 00:53:46.360
Well, like Jeff said, you can follow me on X

1141
00:53:46.440 --> 00:53:49.039
at the Doctor Trey. You can find me on Facebook

1142
00:53:49.079 --> 00:53:52.159
and Instagram. Just be look up Doctor Trey Franklin. When

1143
00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:54.639
you're on Facebook, sure check out Rockety Championship Wrestling. We

1144
00:53:54.719 --> 00:53:57.000
have a big show coming up this Saturday. It's our

1145
00:53:57.159 --> 00:54:00.320
nine year anniversary show. It also puts us about a

1146
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:02.800
month out from the Rocket City Rumble, which is usually

1147
00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:05.480
our second biggest show of the year. Uh so we're

1148
00:54:05.480 --> 00:54:08.880
gonna have a bunch of people coming in for that. Also,

1149
00:54:09.320 --> 00:54:11.119
go check out my boy Chase Owens. He's over in

1150
00:54:11.280 --> 00:54:12.960
Japan again right now, so that's one of my one

1151
00:54:13.039 --> 00:54:14.679
He's actually becoming a really good friend of mine.

1152
00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:16.679
By the way, Jeff, did you check out the other

1153
00:54:16.760 --> 00:54:19.280
show I did, the Rejects podcast I did. I did.

1154
00:54:19.360 --> 00:54:21.559
It was very good man, Thank you, thank you.

1155
00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:24.280
I got some good feedback on it, other than people going.

1156
00:54:24.199 --> 00:54:25.599
You look like I was in a cave.

1157
00:54:25.679 --> 00:54:27.840
I looked like I was doing like a an Isis

1158
00:54:28.039 --> 00:54:30.920
video because the graininess of my camera at times. But

1159
00:54:31.480 --> 00:54:34.199
that's just when you have real internet access that sometimes

1160
00:54:34.239 --> 00:54:35.119
those things don't work.

1161
00:54:34.960 --> 00:54:35.480
Out very well.

1162
00:54:35.840 --> 00:54:37.920
No, no, no, not at all. So I know you

1163
00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:40.320
had some you had some issues there and for a

1164
00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:41.000
little bit, right.

1165
00:54:41.679 --> 00:54:43.480
Yeah, it's just when you're when you're having to work

1166
00:54:43.559 --> 00:54:46.159
kind of off either like a hot spot or like

1167
00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:49.400
a you know, a five G signal with the camera

1168
00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:51.440
and you have four connections running in at one time,

1169
00:54:51.960 --> 00:54:55.199
it can get a little sketchy at best. But but

1170
00:54:55.480 --> 00:54:57.840
Chris the host of that show, great friend of mine,

1171
00:54:57.880 --> 00:54:59.800
he actually just had surgery, Like he had surgery like

1172
00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:01.679
three days after we.

1173
00:55:01.760 --> 00:55:02.480
Did that show.

1174
00:55:02.920 --> 00:55:05.840
More powerful best pushes to him like he had a

1175
00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:08.920
gastric sleeve surgery. Because I love the guy, but he

1176
00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:11.840
got to three hundred and eighty pounds, so you looking.

1177
00:55:11.559 --> 00:55:12.239
Out for himself.

1178
00:55:12.280 --> 00:55:16.119
He's got kids and a great wife and just one

1179
00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:18.599
of my good one of my really really good friends.

1180
00:55:18.639 --> 00:55:20.119
He's actually one of the first people in the wrestling

1181
00:55:20.159 --> 00:55:22.400
business that it took a liking to good old doctor

1182
00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:24.719
Trey because I could run my mouth pretty good.

1183
00:55:25.360 --> 00:55:26.840
So you go go out there, support all the great

1184
00:55:27.159 --> 00:55:29.440
stuff that supports SRTU and let us know your thoughts

1185
00:55:29.480 --> 00:55:31.079
on the aw coverage. We want to hear from you

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Slash Style Real Test Show a friendly reminder. Our holiday

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programming special starts on December nineteenth. For our twenty twenty

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four wrestling recap special on December twenty six will be

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the SRTU Award Show special to wrap up the year,

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and on January second, twenty twenty five, it is our

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wrestling preview special. With that said, thank you for downloading,

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rate review, subscribe, and until next week for Doctor Trey

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