Is This The Greatest Roster In Wrestling History!? | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #735 – 3/14/24

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It's still welcome everybody. Welcome to
this week's edition A Surial Do Show Episoe

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number seven and thirty five from March
for fourteen, twenty twenty four. Welcome

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to this week's edition of ass R
to You. I am one after the

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show, I am Jeff Tack twenty
every single week my post a lot like

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Doctor Prey, Franklin, Doctor Trey. Were you excited for some big business

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my friend? Oh, you mean
the wrestling show, not what we were

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talking about off air. Maybe a
little bit of both. Maybe a little

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bit of both. I thought you
said. Welcome to as Rtuca's a conversation

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we had off air. Doctor Trey
and I are talking to people are like,

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WHOA, what the frick were they
doing before they show? Dot Tran.

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I have some Shark Tank ideas and
it involves potty training for toddlers.

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I will leave it at that.
I don't want to. I just want

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everybody prepared for us to be on
Shark Tank within what six months the latest.

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The hardest part we developing a prototype. I'll work on it. Let's

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just say it's a belt and a
potty belt potty. For those who listened

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to the podcast, a couple of
weeks ago with young Sammy Franklin joining us

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for the first ever break in potty
emergency in SRTU history. This is what

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it all has stem stem two my
friends. Is Doc Tray and I trying

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to branch out and make millions of
dollars because that's what this would do,

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but again I don't want to share
it. Yeah, we just got to

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bring back the Dad Podcast. Oh
yes, that's right, Dad's Home.

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There you go, with one and
only Mike Bauer and the Sweet Nasty Chris

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Cause for those who are longtime listeners
here of the Real Guy radio platform in

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the various different podcasts that have been
out there. Switching back to professional wrestling

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from belt Potty, which is the
working title of what Doctor Trey and I

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are working on for our Shark Tank
idea, we saw some big business take

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place last night on aw Dynamite Doctor
Trey and this person to you is is

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kind of a very controversial wrestler in
being at Mercedes Monette, the former Sasha

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Banks is now officially after months and
months and months of speculation, all elite

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and made her debut in grand fashion
fashion in her hometown of Boston, Massachusetts,

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last Night Doctor Trey, I'm really
interested to hear your thoughts on Mercedes

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Monette officially joining an elite wrestling So
is she all elite if she's still partially

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in New Japan. I think,
well, I mean she's she is a

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full time wrestler. In her contract
does state that she can do work in

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New Japan, but the priority will
be aw So it's not all Alie,

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it's mostly Alli. It is it's
all Lead. So that if you remember

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the New Japan contract she had was
like for three months and maybe like it

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was either like three months or four
matches, and then she got injured.

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With what she has come out in
interviews lately, it was a career ending,

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potentially career ending injury when her ankle
broke in her match with will Nightingale

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in the finals of the New Japan
Strong Women's Championship. She ended up having

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they ended up having to do a
little bit of a swerve there. She

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was set to win that match.
Willow Nightingale had to win that match because

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Mercedes Monet has been out since then. I think that injury occurred back in

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May, so she was I don't
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pro wrestling star at some point.
But I always felt like once she debuted

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at wrestled Kingdom, this new person
Mercedes Monet. To me, it always

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felt like she was going to be
in AW even before she appeared at All

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Out in London over the summer.
Yeah, I mean it's good for AW.

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It got their name out there.
People. They are die hard Mercedes

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Monette aka Sasha Banks fans out there. I've seen all over social media like

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whether you're on I don't want to
say the red side of the Blue syce

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that that's political, but there's this
weird division in wrestling where you're you're either

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an elite fan or you're a WWE
fan, and supposedly you can't cross over.

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But like I've seen people out there, like I leterally say, I

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saw somebody say that she's on the
Mount Rushmore of greatest women's wrestlers of all

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time. I've seen that people like
on the complete opposite end of the spectrum.

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So what it did for AW was
great. He got their name out

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there, people taking notice, checking
out the product. That's fantastic Mercedes Money.

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Though to me, for me personally, it is one of the most

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polarizing figures in professional wrestling, because
for a long time I was not a

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fan of her work. I thought
she wrestled kind of lazy at times in

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the ring. Like she wrestled,
she was never big on. She was

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never the one carrying the match.
It was always her part, like whoever

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her dance partner was, when that
was always kind of carrying the match.

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Then pandemic time hit and she stepped
her game up, went to a whole

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of her level, and I was
applauding her for it, And now it's

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kind of back to I'm I'm neutral
on her, so to speak. I

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do think she's a bit of a
drama queen at times, But at the

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end of the day, it's it's
good for aw it's good for the women's

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division. It's going to get people
to tune in and check out the product.

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But I just kind of see because
that women's division, outside of a

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couple of female wrestlers is very green
or very raw, which means she's going

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to have to carry a lot of
matches to make them beyond the perceived level

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of what Mercedes Monee should be.
And I haven't really seen that body of

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work from her consistently enough to really
say if she can do it or not.

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I think Mercedes Monette is approaching a
mount rushmore of some of the best

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women's wrestlers of all time. I
mean, obviously she is a catapult into

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the greatest era of women's wrestling ever. I mean, we went from the

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bron Panis era that we predominantly saw
on w W and ECW and WCW as

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well, and they became legitimate professional
wrestlers to the point where I get more

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excited for women's matches, women's feuds, women getting the opportunity to main event

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WrestleMania than I ever have in my
entire existence as a wrestling fan. Like,

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we just came off of a year
where Doctor Trey and I both named

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Rhea Ripley are overall male or female
wrestler the year, and rightfully so.

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Like Rihea Ripley to me still is
one of the hottest commodities in all professional

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wrestling right now, one of the
most entertaining wrestlers you will see on any

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roster, and that is because of
what Charlotte Flair, Becky Lynch Bailey,

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Sasha Banks did Page Emma. That
NXT group of women made professional women's wrestling

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cool and then they took it to
the main roster and they and they got

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the divas a chance to keep going
and really spread. And she's been part

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of what I consider to be one
of the best matches we've ever covered in

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the history of this podcast, when
her and Bailey tore down the House and

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NX takeover Brooklyn. I think it's
one of the I think it's the greatest

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women's match I've ever seen. She
has headlined pay per views with Bianca Belair

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at WrestleMania, first ever women to
headline, or excuse me, the first

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African American women to headline a Wrestlemnian
event. That was massive. She was

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in hell and a cell elimination Chamber. She helped bring in the women's tag

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team titles. She is a trailblazer. There is a lot of things that

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she has been tied to for a
lot of first or a lot of doors

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being busted down, and her name
is tied all over that the part of

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Mercedes Monet, which is gonna be
difficult for me to get used to right

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away here, but I'm sure it
will ease in, just like every other

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time where I'm like, how the
hell am I got to call Dean Ambrose,

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John Moxley, and now just flows
off the tongue is I think the

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part that gives her criticism. And
you said before how polarizing she can be.

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She has walked out of we twice. The first time she walked away,

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she came back eventually, and then
she had that run during the pandemic.

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The second time she walked away,
she walked away for good and right,

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wrong or indifferent. You can't sit
there as a rending fan whether you

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agree or disagree with her. I
think all of the people that agree and

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to disagree probably agree on is that
there's always that possibility that she could be

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a little bit of a flight risk
again, where if things don't go her

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way in aw or things that are
going on that she doesn't like or feels

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like that she needs to stand up
for, will she walk out on the

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company again and stand true to what
she believes in and again, depending on

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how you look at it, it's
like, all right, power to the

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people. We love that type of
you know, attitude and popularity. But

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for me, as a guy who
I'm not there obviously, I don't know

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what's going on. I'm a fan
of Mercedes Monett. I support the power

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to the wrestlers and all that stuff, but you got to admit that it's

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like, Okay, first time,
all right, she stuck to her guns

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and this is cool to see she
doesn't like what's going on, and then

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when she did the second time,
it's like, what exactly happened that led

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to this? And that's where it's
very polarizing. She's able to say how

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she feels and you know stand by
it. It's it's really tough, doctor

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Tray. I mean, the wrestler
I really like, but the character of

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the person there are times where it's
like, okay, could she be a

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flight risk again? For aw?
Yeah, I mean she she arguably is

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the CM punk of women's wrestling,
Like I don't know if that makes sense,

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Like, and I was thinking about
this, well, what were you

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talking? Like, if you were
to rank the four horse women, where

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do you rank her among the four
women? That's a tough one because I

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think all four of them are one
a's if that makes sense, Doctor Tray,

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it's to me, I think I
would probably go Charlotte one, Becky

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two, Bailey three, Sasha four, and I think Sasha is four because

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of the walking out and stuff.
There's been gaps in her career, whether

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it's because she has voluntarily walked out
of her job or she had that major

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injury, like she just is coming
off of with New Japan. Yeah,

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and that's when people tell me about
talking about Mount rushmorees. I'm like,

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okay, well she's if you and
I, I mean, I agree.

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I think it is kind of like
it's a very close four. It's it's

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you know, arguably one A,
one B, one C, one D.

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But if you're going to write the
four, I think she comes in

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fourth. And then you talk about
Mount Rushmore. It's like, okay,

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well do you put it? You
can't put her above Leta. You can't

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really put her above Trish. You
can't put her above you know, do

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you put her above page slash so
rya like like where did? Like it's

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tricky at times. It is a
little bit of like you have to pick

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your favorite flavor of ice cream in
a sense. But I think what you're

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saying about her being a flight risk
about like how is she going to blend

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into this locker room, because we've
seen this women's locker room at time b

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very very get along and everybody's happy
and then We've seen it be very very

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divisive at times as well, So
it's gonna be a really interesting dynamic when

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you're putting her into the mix,
especially with you know, I hate saying

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this, but the women's division in
AW is a little bit like the TNA

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era when they would bring in ww
people and all of a sudden shotgun them

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to the top of the card and
then slowly push them back down. Impact

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kind of does the same thing.
We've seen it with Surrey, We've seen

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with Ruby Soho, We've seen with
Tony Storm with her initial debut and then

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this rebroke. We see it now
with Diana Barrazza. They kind of start

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hot and then it's like they kind
of get pushed back down. It's that

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new toy philosophy that we've talked about
Tony kNN in the past, like he

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loves his shining new toys, and
then after he's played with it for a

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little while, it kind of gets
pushed back to the back of the toy

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box. I hear you, and
I love the comparisons there for what TNA

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used to do, right, Like
a major WWE name would come in and

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all of a sudden, they're immediately
in the main events spot and props to

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Tony Kahn. He doesn't always do
that. There are times he certainly has,

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but he doesn't always do that.
But I do feel like that this

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is exactly what the AW Women's Division
needed is a Mercedes Monette. They needed

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a franchise player. No disrespect to
everybody on the ADW Women's Division roster,

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there are a lot of bright bright
spots. There are people that are really

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ascending up the ladder, whether it
be Julia Hart timeless, Tony Storm,

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who's been around for a long time, Blue Sky has really come into her

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own with the Julia Perry and I'm
really enjoying the Chris stat Lander, Willem

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Nightingale stuff. Obviously loves Soireya.
Doctor Britt Baker has really become a top

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star in all professional wrestling. Jamie
Hayter we sincerely miss from being injured now.

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I think she's been out for almost
a full year at this point.

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But I have always felt like,
and this is gonna sound awful, and

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I hate to say this, but
I've always felt like there has been this

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It's like the W Women's roster completely
overshadows anything that's going on in the AW

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Women's division roster, whether it's the
types of matches, the matches that they're

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having, the storylines that they're having, the creative the focus, it's always

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been WWW and very far behind.
I've always felt like is AW And I

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think we've talked about this in the
podcast, and I think maybe we differ

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on this, but I feel like, if you took, like removing Mercedes

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mon Aide out to Trey, the
best AW women's wrestler, in your opinion

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is in the entire five years,
is who you like over like in ring

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or just overall overall? Who has
been the most overall best wrestler, Who

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has been the face of the women's
division for the you know an AAW When

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they say who is the face of
the AW Women's division, who comes to

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mind? Said Britt Baker until the
last like six months as she's been out.

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Okay, Yeah, I would go
with doctor Britt Baker too, And

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I granted I get the injury stuff, but I still think that even that

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aside, like the history of a
division, it's her right. Yeah,

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I agree. I think if you
put Britt Baker into w w W,

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like, where would she rank with
some of the best women's wrestlers right now,

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she would be towards the top of
the card because the character would kind

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of translate. The character of doctor
bur Baker might translate better in WW at

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times as well. So I still
think she'd be probably if you're doing a

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pecking order, maybe fifth or six, I would put Rhya, Bianca Bailey,

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Eo Sky Live, Morgan, Becky
Lynch ahead of her. Would I

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would probably put her above EO and
Live just because I think I think the

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pro ability, the character ability is
but I mean, she could be kind

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to stale at times, I got
it. Yeah, But she wouldn't be

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writing her own promos in WW.
She'd have writers helping her along to keep

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it a little bit fresh, Okay. I think so this is where we

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like differ on the entire thing.
I still think at the end of the

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day, I just feel like you
inject some of the AW Women's wrestlers in

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there and to w w W and
they just don't hold a candle to it

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to them right now, I think
the one issue they have with the Women's

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Vision AW is kind of the same
thing they have with the majority of their

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roster is I don't know. I
don't really feel like there's a pecking I

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hate saying this because this is our
old tag team name. I don't think

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there's a pecking order in AW.
It feels like everybody's right, like the

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majority of the stars are all right
around the same level. Like there's no

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like a WW go oh, that's
a main event guy, that's a mid

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card guy that's bottom of the car
guys. Same thing with the women's division,

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where in AW it kind of does
feel like everybody's like basically treading all

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like within a step or two of
each other, like you know, Orange

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Cassidy's you know, International Title Rod, you know down, but then he

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could be the main event like it
does. It doesn't feel like there's a

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flow chart to AW like there is
with WWE. I think some of the

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women AW AW, if they were
put into the WW structure, could actually

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be higher. I completely agree with
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entered AAW, she was above Live
Morgan in w w WA. And I

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think they have completely widened the gap
there, and that's because the creative.

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I think, at the end of
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the women's division has done them a
disservice. I don't think any of the

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women's wrestlers are poor wrestlers. I
don't think they're bad wrestlers. I think

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if most of them went into we
they would be extremely successful. It's just

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that AW doesn't know what to do
with them, which could be very scary

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for the Mercedes Mona store in general. But I do feel like there are

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glimmers of hope there. Case in
point, very sidebar end of Dynamite On

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Wednesday Night, Mercedes Bonet makes a
safe for Willow Nightingale who injured her over

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Julie Hart and sky Blue. Somebody's
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I disagree with the execution of this. They ended up putting out like

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a YouTube video where stat Lerning explains
that she was taken out by Julie Hart

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and sky Blue, which is which
is fine, and maybe that's actually leading

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to a Chris statlerner Lander heel turn
and she actually did not get beaten up

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by them. But I would have
ran something on Dynamite where like the camera

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pans and Statlander's taken out and Stokely
Hathaway is over her, like I can't

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believe they did that to you,
And then Julie Hart and sky Blue come

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out, or as they're beating her
up Willow Nightingale, you show the backstage

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of Chris Statlander taken out. I
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They did it on the YouTube channel
and on social media. I like

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that. I liked that they executed
that and they actually had enough thought and

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detail to that because add to something
that they're sincerely lacking. But you know,

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again, there's glimmers of hope,
and we can only hope for the

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best. But the reason why the
aw women's division is not as good as

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w we's women's division, to me
completely is not the athleticism, the ringability,

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any of that. It is the
creative Doctor Trey. It's why would

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I care about this? Yeah,
And that's why I was comparing it kind

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of to like those NA days,
because you know, you would see a

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guy come you see a guy or
a girl because I don't want to forget

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the knockouts division in TENA, because
the knockouts division has been one of their

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strengths for over a decade. But
you'd see somebody come in super hot,

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get pushed to the mood, and
then three months later be you know,

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in a in a backstage vignette with
a mop or something like, it's just

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like, wait, wasn't that person
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the Ruby sohos. Now like Ruby
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got paired with the outpass, still
a huge push, and now a mid

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tier angle with you know, Sorea
and Daddy Magic or cool Hey Looui camera

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which one? I forget which is
which? But it's like, no,

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like Ruby Soho is one of the
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and we forget like it's just kind
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much as we enjoy sky Blue and

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Julia Hart, does that feel like
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coming in like it it kind of
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people that she's gonna get involved with, it's the Julia Hart sky Blue storyline.

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It's not Tony Storm, it's not
Sireu's not here the dream matches we

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might be thinking of. It's sky
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is where the creative always kind of
makes me nervous. And Mercedes might have

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come in and said, Hey,
I want to work with Willow and whoever

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you got to work with, just
pair me up with And that might be

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the case. But for the casual
fan tuning in for the first time you

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see Mercedes in the ring with Willow
and Julie and sky you're like, oh,

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these must be main event people in
aw and it's not. It's like

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her walking in if you do for
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world title, it's kind of the
structure doesn't make sense of where you're placing

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here, because to me, that's
a mid card feud for your new big

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free agent signing. It's like sign
signing a three hundred hitter and sending in

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a triple A. But but you
know what you know you had said before,

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like TNA will bring in w stars
and push them to the top,

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Like do you want them to do
that with Mercedes Monette because I feel like

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making Julia Hart and Sky Blue and
Wellow Nightingale or even Chris Statlander. Let's

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say that they involve her into this. Legit Stars is a really big deal

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ultimately as well. It's it's great
for their careers, but for the company

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when you have I disagree with that. I think it's great for the company

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too well, because here's the thing. Once, this is my my my

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thought process on it is you're now
elevating the TBS title to what's either equal

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to the women's titles. Like you're
not you're not setting that structure. You're

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not setting that pecking order, so
to speak. You know, it's like

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for the first person, for the
person tuning in, you see this and

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you go, hey, this is
great for like I said earlier, it's

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great for AEW as a brand recognition, it's great for those women involved with

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her. But now the first the
person who's a diehard Sasha Banks fan who

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turned into AW for the first time
ever, you're gonna think sky Blue and

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you know, excuse me, sky
Blue and Willow Nightingale and Julia Hart are

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the focal core o the women's division
to fight out later on that actually they're

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kind of in the middle. So
like, it's just it's it's a thing

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to me, I hear you on
the first night. I think it's a

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little bit too soon to think about
the full creative on this entire thing.

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I think ultimately she gets to the
AW Women's Championship with Thomas Tony Storm.

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But I don't the way that AW
does things, especially now with the ranking

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system, for her to come in
and immediately become the number one contender,

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it makes like no sense. We
can't like bash AW creative and they're like,

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all right, welcome aboard, you're
going to have the number one contender.

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But you know, Cody didn't come
in to WWE and challenge for the

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Innercontinental title. He came in and
got into the main event picture. You

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know, Jade had her moments in
the rumble with the main event people.

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WWE has that ability? Do they
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the women's division, Like who would
who would be? Who should she feud

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with? Doctor Trey? I mean, I'm serious, I have no idea

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outside of timeless Tony Storm as the
champion. I don't know unless Britt Baker

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came back from injury. Uh and
even then you got to build her back

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up. I don't know who they
would put her with in that first feud.

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I think Willow Nightingale makes ten sense
because Willow took her out, but

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Willow's hasn't been booked. Great,
but it's like, so who do you

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put her with? I mean,
I like this is what I talk about,

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like the structure in the pecking order, Like it feels like outside of

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Tony Storm, everybody else is kind
of in the middle Age. So it's

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like, do you set it up? Like I mean, to me,

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Sorea is a bigger star than Julia
Hart, Like if you had her come

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out like they they had Soraya and
uh, what's her face? You know,

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kind of beat up Ruby Soho.
What if Mercedes Bande came to Ruby

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Soho's defense and then you get Ruby
or you get Mercedes and Soirey at some

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point. That's kind of a dream
match for WWE fans. I'm conserned Banks

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and Page Russell, Well we thought
on We're Page he actually got hurt.

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Yeah, I hear you. I'm
concerned very seldom across paths like that's I

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still think Seray and Ruby Soho are
a little bit higher, you know,

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perceived than Julia, Willow and Scott
So it's just it's just ques like it's

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a little bit of like this is
where the creative comes in, where there's

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no differentiating between the top of his
a vision and the bottom. It all

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feels very very kind of level,
and I think you need to start establishing

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that kind of hierarchy, so to
speak, so that way, when you

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do have somebody come in that can
be a focal point, you have somebody

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on equal footing with them to start
them off with. I think with Mercedes

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Monette coming into AW and them adding
I believe it's Jennifer Pepper Peppermin, the

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lady who left w W, who
was like credited for the women's division and

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is supposed to be like the Brian
Gritz of to the Rock is to her,

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to Mercedes Moonet, like Mercedes Renee's
official creative writer, and was given

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a ton of props in w and
they said it was a big loss.

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I think that everything that we know
about the AW Women's Division pre Mercedes Monet,

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we have to kind of delete from
our brains now. And it's basically

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almost in a little bit of a
restart of a creative all encompassing. You

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have a legit franchise player now on
your roster. How do you build around

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her, how do you build people
up with her? And how do you

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make the AAW Women's Division better?
I think that is ultimately what it is.

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Like I struggle to like think about
who she should feud with right away.

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I know he threw out Soaya's name
out there, but I'm concerned about

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the long term ability of say even
wrestling, because you few and far between

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you actually see her wrestle, and
if she wrestles, it's a lot of

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tag team matches, and when she
does singles, it's it's very few and

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far between. It's a lot of
four way matches, stuff like that.

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It's very difficult when AW and granted
and over the last six months they have

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not completely like turn a blind eye
to the women's division like there would be

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in the past. They're they're just
not there yet. And I think that

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this signing with Mercedes Monet is big
in the all important, encompassing growth of

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the AW women's division. Six months
from now, a year from now,

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if it's still the same doctor Trey
and we have not seen improvements with Mercedes

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Monet on the roster, then yet
the bells and whistles are going to be

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alarming off. But I just don't
think that I think there are two green

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I think they're too young, and
I think that they have just done a

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disservice to the women's division in all
honesty for too long that they're just not

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on the equivalent yet that when Mercedes
Monet signs with the company, it's like,

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who do you put her with?
And you're like, well, it

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could be one of three wrestlers,
it could be in WWE. It's like,

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well, we may put her with
this person for now and ultimately get

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her to the aw Women's Championship match. If that makes sense. I think.

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I think in a way with Mercedes
signing, it's a little bit of

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a start over as well. Yeah. To me, this is kind of

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like when you have that rebuilding franchise
and they bring in you know, you

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get the one person to buy in
and that attracts other people. Like I

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get like Mercedes can be a building
block because if you look at this women's

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division over five years, outside of
Britt Baker, it's constantly shifting who they

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feel like they're building this division around. Like at one point it was Rio,

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at one point it was Nyla Rose, and at one point it was

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the outcast, and then now you
feel like it's Tony Storm like and then

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it was Jade Cargill at one point
as well. Like they've had six or

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seven people they feel like they were
going to push in just a short amount

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of time. And at this point
now you look around and you're like,

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well, Jade's gone, Nyla's on
collision at best. You know, you

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hardly see Rio Kiashida is a two
time women's champion and three time women's champion,

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but there's no you know, Tony
Storm right now is the focal point.

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then you bring in Deanna Parrazzo and
it's like you have the pieces, it's

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just you have to give it structure
because you know, like I said,

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we watched the Rumble, we all
anticipate Jade Cargill and who's she involved with?

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She gets involved with Naya Jacksonancabelle Air
and like the she's not going after

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you know, the lower card NXT
women, Like she's hitty high spots for

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what her projection should be. And
yeah, you might want to build this

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division around Willow and Sky and Julia
going forward like four or five years out.

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But not having a structure in place
now is it's not a hindrance,

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but it just kind of bogs it
down a little bit. Yeah, this

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is an interesting conversation because this is
organically kind of shifted into what I wanted

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to bring up next with Mercedes Monett
joining ALI Wrestling. We talked about this

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about a month or two ago when
the realization was coming that Kazisiocada, will

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Ospray, Mercedes Monet was going to
be joining ALI Wrestling, and we talked

402
00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:23.519
about how could they save the company, could they help turn it around?

403
00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:29.400
The addition to the roster, And
you look at this roster and this is

404
00:30:29.400 --> 00:30:32.799
something that they were trumpeting on Dynamite
last night and rightfully so it's like this

405
00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:40.240
is one of the greatest assembly of
professional wrestlers on one roster than you've ever

406
00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:45.559
seen before. And they're not wrong. From Kenny Omega and the Young Bucks

407
00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:49.759
to Chris Jericho and Adam Copeland and
Christian to John Moxley, Claudio Casignoli,

408
00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:56.920
Brian Danielson, Jay White, Kazichio
Ocado, will Ospray, Mercedes Monet,

409
00:30:56.319 --> 00:31:03.359
Eddie Kingston, there's this FTR.
There's just so many talented wrestlers. Swerve

410
00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:07.400
Strickland, Hangman Page, Samoa,
Joe Wardlow, Adam Cole, Rogers,

411
00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:12.440
Strong, Kyle O'Reilly. There are
so many talented wrestlers on this roster.

412
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:18.240
Powerhouse, Ops Canisco, caniske to
Keshka. I was on a roll there

413
00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:22.079
and nearly stumbled on his name,
Siami Givara, the Hardy Boys. I

414
00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:27.200
mean, there's so many talented wrestlers
on this roster and they're trumpeting rightfully,

415
00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:34.119
so which begs the question, is
this the greatest roster of wrestling talent ever?

416
00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:37.440
This is a two part question.
This is certainly the first part here,

417
00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:44.119
Doctor Trey. I think on paper
right now, the AW roster is

418
00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:51.440
better than the ww roster. Is
it the greatest roster of wrestling talent ever?

419
00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:55.279
Too soon to tell? To me? I still think those w W

420
00:31:55.559 --> 00:32:00.359
rosters in nineteen ninety seven to two
thousand and three were the greatest rosters I've

421
00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:04.240
ever seen in professional wrestling history.
From Steve Austin, Shawn Michaels, Brett

422
00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:07.119
Hart, the Rock, Undertaker of
Triple Ah, Micfoley, Kurt Angle,

423
00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:09.759
Big Sho Caine, Eddie Guerrero,
Chris Jericho, and the list goes on

424
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:15.920
and on and on. To me, that was the greatest roster in wrestling

425
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:20.720
history, and that's why they were
so successful. They would say back there,

426
00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:22.039
it would be like the fourth match
on the card, and it would

427
00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:29.119
be filled with main event level talented
wrestlers that had star power and name value.

428
00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:31.920
I think, to me that period
of time best roster ever. But

429
00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:37.160
the AW roster on paper right now
is certainly knocking on that door, Doctor

430
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:39.319
Trey and creating a little bit of
buzz and creating a little bit of noise.

431
00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:45.359
Where do you think that this current
AW roster stands when we look at

432
00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:50.880
greatest roster of wrestling talent ever?
If you're going off in ring talent,

433
00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:54.240
the ability in the ring, it's
arguably the greatest of all time, like

434
00:32:54.319 --> 00:33:00.519
just in ring professional wrestling ability.
If you're going off like overall professional wrestlers,

435
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:05.599
the attitude era, like you said
that ninety seven to two thousand and

436
00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:09.440
two, two thousand and three is
arguably my favorite. I also like,

437
00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:12.920
I'm older than you, so I
go back to like W to B from

438
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:16.759
like eighty four to eighty eight,
eighty nine was really strong. When you

439
00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:20.359
have the Hogas, the Macha Man's, the Rick Rude, Opening Warrior,

440
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:23.480
Carrie Von Eric, Mister Perfect,
Brett hard Sean, all those guys in

441
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:30.079
that window right there, it's it's
right there wrestling talent wise, and I

442
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:36.599
it's almost it's almost an issue where
they are almost too deep of a roster

443
00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:42.480
right now. So that's it's an
incredibly talented roster, and they have all

444
00:33:42.519 --> 00:33:46.799
the pieces in place to make a
really strong run over the next few years.

445
00:33:46.960 --> 00:33:51.720
So I mean they've assembled. I
mean, this is you know,

446
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:55.359
the Philadelphia Eagle was the dream Team
of like two thousand and twelve. I

447
00:33:55.400 --> 00:34:00.519
think it was when they had Donovan
McNabb and Ricky Waters and had All Owens

448
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:02.079
and they had that great team that
they dubbed the Dream Team. But then

449
00:34:02.119 --> 00:34:07.319
that team went like seven to nine. So that's where you were like too

450
00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:12.840
much talent at times. But it's
I don't think I've ever seen a better

451
00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:16.360
collection of wrestling talent one time.
Those Attitude Air days and those you know,

452
00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:22.480
the Golden Arab WWF days were great
characters, but I don't know even

453
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:25.920
if those guys could match the inring
ability of what AW has on the roster

454
00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:30.639
right now. It's very funny that
you went these sports analogy route. I

455
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:34.920
think maybe some of the names on
that Eagles Dream Team roster weren't there.

456
00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:37.880
I mean that just shows our age
because I think you picked Ricky Waters,

457
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:40.039
who was like in the nineties Eagles, I meant to say, Leshan McCoy,

458
00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:43.719
Yeah, and I think it was
actually Michael Vick that was in there.

459
00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:45.440
But I hear you, okay,
because there's other sports analogies that you

460
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:49.039
could go with. I'm a Yankee
fan. Go through some of those two

461
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:51.760
thousand rosters, those lineups, and
it's like, how the hell did they

462
00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:55.239
ever lose a game? And how
do they never win a championship? I

463
00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:59.880
think of the Philadelphia Phillies start in
rotation when they had Roy Holliday, Cliff

464
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:05.199
Lee, roy Oswalt Cole Hamils and
then of course Joe Blanton, and they

465
00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:09.039
didn't win any championships. The Braves
when they had the four Aces and the

466
00:35:09.119 --> 00:35:14.440
only Round one World Series when they
had Glavin Small, Sematis and Avery.

467
00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:17.960
What about Miami Heat the first year
that they had Bosh Wade and Lebron James,

468
00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:21.679
they did not win the NBA Championship. They ended up winning some,

469
00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:23.719
but they did not win an NBA
championship. I also always think of the

470
00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:29.800
Los Angeles Lakers when they had Kobe
and Shaq, Karl Malone, Gary Payton.

471
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:32.280
They lost in the NBA Finals to
a legit team in the Detroit Pistons.

472
00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:36.519
So if you're a sports fan,
these analogies are making sense to you.

473
00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:37.840
If you're not a sports fan and
just a wrestling fan, you're like,

474
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:42.800
what the hell are they talking about? The last sixty seconds. Nonetheless,

475
00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:46.079
what we're trying to say is you
could have all the talent in the

476
00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:51.159
world on paper on the roster.
You know their abilities, But if you

477
00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:57.320
don't take full advantage of those abilities
then and it's not entertaining, then nobody

478
00:35:57.320 --> 00:36:00.280
gives a shit. That's what it
comes down to is if a tree falls

479
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:05.159
in the wood, does anybody there
to hear it? Is the famous phrase

480
00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:08.480
on this one. Right now,
the AW roster up against the w roster.

481
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:12.800
As I pointed out to me,
the current roster AW is better,

482
00:36:13.039 --> 00:36:21.280
right it potential legitimate entering workers on
paper, it's better WWE. The product

483
00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:24.880
is better than AW. Right now, AW has made some very good momentum

484
00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:28.679
forward in my opinion lately. I
know we kind of differed on that on

485
00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:31.119
last week's episode, Doctor Trey,
but I feel like AW has made some

486
00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:37.079
good strides momentum wise creatively, the
WW creative to me, each and every

487
00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:40.039
time I sit down and I watch
Ron SmackDown. No disrespect to NXT.

488
00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:45.559
I just feel like those shows have
been hitting out of the park. They've

489
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:49.360
been a ton of fun, really
good, enjoyed it, entertaining, and

490
00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:52.920
I'm pumped for WrestleMania. AW has
that potential, But what AW is missing

491
00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:58.320
is the creative, the entertainment,
and the why in it all. As

492
00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:01.199
a wrestling fan, at the end
of the day, all we want is

493
00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:07.000
a why. Why are these two
wrestlers are fighting? Why do they have

494
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:12.079
a feud? Why do I care
about this? What is bringing me to

495
00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:15.079
want to watch this? Why do
I want to watch this? And that

496
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:19.159
is what I think AW is missing
at the end of the day. And

497
00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:21.679
if they are able to find that
why, if they are able to find

498
00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:23.400
that creative, if they are able
to find that entertainment, Doctor Trey,

499
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:28.039
then we have a very good situation
on our hands because we're going to have

500
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:34.480
two extremely good wrestling promotions in the
United States. I cannot stress enough.

501
00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:38.639
Four or five years ago pre AW, if somebody told you that there's gonna

502
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:43.400
be another United States promotion that was
gonna have will Osprey J. White,

503
00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:45.840
because it's Gocott, A Kenny Omega. The list goes on and on.

504
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:50.639
From folks from New Japan in the
United States performing each and every week.

505
00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:55.039
Wrestling fans would sign up for that
tenfold. But again, if there's no

506
00:37:55.159 --> 00:37:59.440
why, there's no entertainment, if
there's no creative then we're not going to

507
00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:01.360
give a crap. We know the
athleticism and the inn ring is there.

508
00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:07.280
You got to find that other fifty
percent and make it a good solid foundation

509
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:10.400
as to why I should invest two
hours every Wednesday, one hour on Friday,

510
00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:14.760
two hours every Saturday night. And
to me, Doctor Trey, that

511
00:38:14.920 --> 00:38:15.559
is what it is. At the
end of the day. We named a

512
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:21.480
lot of amazing dream teams in sports, and every nearly every one of those

513
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:24.800
failed. And if they didn't fail
and they ended up climbing over that mountain,

514
00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:28.559
it's because they tinkered a little bit. Miami Heat, they lost,

515
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:31.039
they had the Big Three. So
what they do They improved the rest of

516
00:38:31.079 --> 00:38:36.760
their team, rounded out their bench, and they made it a better opportunity

517
00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:40.599
for them to win the championship.
You can't just win every wrestling week on

518
00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:45.960
paper by what your roster looks like. You got to deliver at the end

519
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:51.199
of the day. Yeah. The
thing that sometimes wrestling fans forget is that

520
00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:55.440
most of us became fans because of
characters. And you know, I've said

521
00:38:55.480 --> 00:38:58.719
on the show many times, to
me, wrestling when I was a kid

522
00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:02.679
was real life superhero. And I
think that sometimes I hear people go,

523
00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:07.079
oh, I'm tired of promos or
I get tired of these people talking or

524
00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:12.039
the backstage segments. But it's like
that's character development. Like you learn about

525
00:39:12.119 --> 00:39:15.800
weaknesses, you learn about strengths,
you learn about why this person hates this

526
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:19.519
person, and why these guys are
fighting, and you know, it's like,

527
00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:22.400
you know the Superman Lex Luthor stories. You know, it's like,

528
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:24.199
well, why is Lex a villain? Because if you read the comics,

529
00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:28.000
you know it was because he lost
all his hair and had all this stuff

530
00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:31.079
because of you know, Superman's asteroid
crashing into the same ara that he was

531
00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:35.480
into, the radiation, all that
stuff. You learn about why these guys

532
00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:37.760
don't get along, and a lot
of times I feel like, aaw they

533
00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:40.519
just want everybody to kind of be
in the middle. And if you look

534
00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:45.320
at the people who have really gotten
hot and broke out, you know over

535
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:49.239
the last couple of years, it
was because they had defined roles, like

536
00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:52.199
they knew I'm the bad guy I
gotta make everybody hate me, or I'm

537
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:55.239
the good guy. I gotta make
everybody love me. They would overcome obstacles

538
00:39:55.360 --> 00:39:59.280
or create obstacles wherever it is,
whether it was you know, Darby Allen

539
00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:01.880
being the greatnerdog, Orange Cassidy being
the underdog, you know, Swarre Strickland

540
00:40:01.960 --> 00:40:07.320
MGF just being slime backs, you
know, just doing heinous things. A

541
00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:10.519
lot of times they like the stuff
with will Ospring. Will Ospring is one

542
00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:14.519
of the best wrestlers in the world. Is he a good guy or a

543
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:16.760
bad guy right now? I can't
tell. You know. You got Samoa

544
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:20.599
Joe. Samoa Joe, Like one
minute you feel like he's a bad guy,

545
00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:22.599
the next minute he's fighting Warlow and
is he okays he a good guy?

546
00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:29.760
Like wrestling fans do like having their
characters defined on one side or the

547
00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:32.199
other. The majority of the time, we do get interactions like we saw

548
00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:36.400
on Raw the other night with the
end of that Gauntlet match with sammy's Ay

549
00:40:36.639 --> 00:40:39.360
and Jaed Gables, two good guys
fighting for the chance to fight Gunther and

550
00:40:39.719 --> 00:40:45.199
you're a little torn. But we
have enough character development in them to understand

551
00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:50.039
why this is important to each of
them, and I don't. I think

552
00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:53.320
AW is the one thing they lack
in is character development. And a lot

553
00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:58.480
of times it's because we see the
switching back and forth so many times.

554
00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:01.239
I mean, AW five years old, the young bucks have only already switched

555
00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:07.639
sides four times, you know,
like it's at times AW suffers from big

556
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:12.800
show syndrome. We gotta flip,
We gotta flip this person baby Face,

557
00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:16.639
we gotta flip this person heel.
It's like you do that and the audience

558
00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:21.880
can't keep up with it. And
you know, I always compare wrestling to

559
00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:23.599
selp Offus. I can tune on. I haven't watched Days of our Lives

560
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:27.679
in probably a decade, but I
can tune it on, and just because

561
00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:30.840
of what I watched fifteen years ago, I can still kind of know who

562
00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:37.599
the characters are and what their roles
are on this show. And wrestling usually

563
00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:40.559
is like that as well. And
that way, when somebody switches, it's

564
00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:45.039
a big deal and people take notice
of it. Right now, it's like

565
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:49.320
half the roster. I couldn't tell
you if they were a quote unquote babyface

566
00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:52.480
or a heel. And fifty to
fifties splits aren't entertaining to me because it's

567
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:58.280
not really obstacles to overcome at that
point. On next week's podcast or the

568
00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:00.800
bonus edition, we're gonna do is
Doctor Trey, He's got to go through

569
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:07.559
the history of Bowen Hope's relationship on
sr TU bonus cast. I'm sure you

570
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:09.519
can. I remember that as a
kid growing up. You know, it's

571
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:13.519
funny you bring up that point about
the heels and babyfaces because I was watching

572
00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:16.320
Dynamite on Wednesday night and they had
the Elite because it's Cocott or the Young

573
00:42:16.360 --> 00:42:21.400
Bucks in the trios match against Eddie
Kingston, Pentel, Sara Miedo and Pac

574
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:25.239
and the Elite all come down in
their center entrance that they have. Now

575
00:42:25.239 --> 00:42:30.480
they're clearly heals Kingston and pen to
come in through on the face side of

576
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:36.400
Dynamite. Pop comes through the heel
side, and it's like, wait what.

577
00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:39.800
And I think that's it's difficult for
old school fans in you and I

578
00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:43.760
to get my head around that.
And that's funny because I thought to myself

579
00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:46.519
while watching Dynamite and even with the
will Ospry stuff, right that is,

580
00:42:46.559 --> 00:42:50.599
he's still with the Don Calls family
because he's coming out of the babyface tunnel.

581
00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:53.440
He's getting a babyface reaction. He's
acting his babyface, but everybody else

582
00:42:53.519 --> 00:42:59.559
Canesco Ta Keshka and Will Powerhouse Hobbs
is all coming out on the other side

583
00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:02.599
with Don Callous and they're all heels
and I and I'm like, am I

584
00:43:02.920 --> 00:43:07.079
just like an old head. I'm
wrestling here because I can't get my head

585
00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:13.840
around this because from a character standpoint, it does not make sense. And

586
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:19.719
I don't know if that's new age
wrestling Doctor Trey, or if if I'm

587
00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:22.280
right in that, because I do
think that is a little bit of a

588
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:25.039
mental block that maybe old fans like
you and I do it for problem with

589
00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:29.360
maybe we are old heads on this. It's it's a little bit. So

590
00:43:29.440 --> 00:43:34.199
here's the thing on and I've seen
this on the Independence and it's one of

591
00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:38.239
the issues that I used to always
butt up against is everybody, you know,

592
00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:40.920
on the indies, you gotta sell
merchandise, and it's hard to sell

593
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:45.079
merchandise. It's hard to sell autographs
if you're the bad guy like MJF.

594
00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:49.920
Out of you know, I've been
on the Indies now almost a decade now,

595
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:52.599
Jeff. As crazy as that sounds, MJF was the best on the

596
00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:58.079
indies of being able to sell merchandise
and still be a dick, you know,

597
00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:00.599
best I've ever seen. I've seen
eyes that were just total jerks of

598
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:02.719
the ring. As soon as they
say down their birch table, they're like

599
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:07.079
shaking hands and super happy to see
you and best friends and buy this,

600
00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:14.320
and by that, da da da. Nobody really likes to be reviled anymore,

601
00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:17.280
Like everybody feels like they have to
have some kind of admiration or some

602
00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:21.000
kind of Hey, you know,
I can be a jerk, but I

603
00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:23.360
still want to be somewhat endearing to
the fans. You know. There was

604
00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:27.679
always a saying that, like if
you were a like Shawn Michael's back when

605
00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:30.320
he first turned heel, toned down
a lot of his high flying stuff because

606
00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:35.559
the high flyers typically got cheered by
the fans because they're doing these crazy moves

607
00:44:35.559 --> 00:44:38.199
I know we've ever seen before,
you know, And he would tone it

608
00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:40.679
down when he was a heel,
and then he would do more high flying

609
00:44:40.719 --> 00:44:44.800
stuff as a baby face. But
then you see, you know, guys

610
00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:47.480
who are heels now doing, you
know, four fifties and six thirties and

611
00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:51.280
all these crazy things it's like,
well, how can I hate that guy?

612
00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:53.599
He's so damn athletic. Like that's
why, like, for me,

613
00:44:53.639 --> 00:44:57.599
the most one of the most entertaining
people to watch in AW, even though

614
00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:01.320
some people say his axe growing stale
is Christian Cage because he's one of the

615
00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:07.599
last true heels in that company.
Everybody else feels like they're in Shades of

616
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:12.280
gray Land. But Shades of Gray
doesn't paint a great picture. It just

617
00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:14.800
comes off kind of bland if you
look at it that way. Yeah,

618
00:45:14.880 --> 00:45:16.519
yeah, I mean, same episode, I'm thinking sort of Strickland's coming out

619
00:45:16.559 --> 00:45:21.119
of the baby Face Tunnel now with
Prince n Nah and then later in the

620
00:45:21.199 --> 00:45:24.960
night the Gates of Agony for their
tag match with Jericho and Hook even though

621
00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:28.599
they're all aligned in the Mogal Embassy, to come out as the Heel Tunnel.

622
00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:36.000
It's it doesn't make sense sometimes.
I think that's where either I need

623
00:45:36.039 --> 00:45:38.119
to get my head around it,
or AW needs to kind of adapt to

624
00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:43.840
rest and fans like Dotch Trey and
I and being a little bit more stringent

625
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:46.519
on babyface and heel personas, because
that is something that an element that I

626
00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:52.000
do think is missing at times.
It's greatly successful in WA they still do

627
00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:59.079
old school babyface heel type characters.
I think the only wrestler that I would

628
00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:01.320
say is on the tweener side of
things right now is Drew McIntyre, and

629
00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:06.280
he leans a little bit more on
the heelside especially, but I want to

630
00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:08.079
be shocked if he's a babyface in
a couple months again or work in this

631
00:46:08.320 --> 00:46:14.199
tweener role a little bit more.
And I think that's what's kind of you

632
00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:19.679
know, keeping this AW roster again
from you know, being the greatest of

633
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:22.400
all time is the creative and entertainment
side of things. So it's very funny

634
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:25.760
in that discussion with Mercedes Bone that
that kind of blended into that naturally,

635
00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:29.800
because that is what I wanted to
bring up next as Mercedes Monet is that

636
00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:34.440
latest addition to the roster and one
that we have discussed. If it's the

637
00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:37.480
part of the greatest roster of all
time again, on paper, I think

638
00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:43.400
Doctor Trainer in agreement. On paper
it is one of the greatest rosters of

639
00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:45.679
all time. How it translates to
what we see each and every week and

640
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:50.400
the type of business AW is able
to do from this point forward is going

641
00:46:50.480 --> 00:46:54.280
to be very telling very important,
and twenty twenty four is a very very

642
00:46:54.320 --> 00:46:59.400
important year for AW because it's like, really no more excuses at this point.

643
00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:01.599
It's like, how do we bring
people to this product and make it

644
00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:05.920
better. We'll make it damn entertaining
outside of just the d ring stuff.

645
00:47:05.920 --> 00:47:09.400
Make it entertaining, make it creative, make me want to see these two

646
00:47:09.400 --> 00:47:13.239
wrestlers go at. That's why I
think Hangman Page and Swarb of Strickland has

647
00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:17.079
been one of the best feuds in
AW in recent memory. So lots of

648
00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:21.719
changes in AW with a roster,
and they'll be heading into Dynasty, which

649
00:47:21.719 --> 00:47:23.159
is their next pay per view in
the coming weeks, and we'll see how

650
00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:27.719
the creative continues to go again.
I will say for anybody that thinks we're

651
00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:30.159
haters on AW, I would say, since you know, in the last

652
00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:34.440
couple of weeks, since maybe December
time with the Continental Classic, I just

653
00:47:34.440 --> 00:47:37.719
think the creative for AW has really
improved. It's not two we level yet,

654
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:42.760
but it's been really really good.
And I enjoyed Dynamite this past weenday.

655
00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:45.800
I thought it was a very solid
episode of Dynamite. We have some

656
00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:50.719
new additions to the WA Hall of
Fame Class of twenty twenty four out Trey

657
00:47:51.159 --> 00:47:54.480
Muhammad Ali, Thunderbolt Patterson, and
the US Express, micro Tona and Bury

658
00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:59.519
Wyndham, all announced for the w
Hall of Fame. Your thoughts here on

659
00:47:59.559 --> 00:48:04.159
the latest additions to the Class of
twenty twenty four. Dot to Troy uh

660
00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:07.000
Muhamad Ali, I thought he was
already in. I did too. That's

661
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:09.880
funny you said that I did too. I was literally like, why was

662
00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:16.880
he not one of the first celebrity
inductees Sammy Hallie was at WrestleMania once.

663
00:48:16.920 --> 00:48:22.079
I'm surprised it took this long.
Thunderbolt Patterson, I love that induction.

664
00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:27.559
I don't think a lot of people
know who Thunderbolt Patterson is, but if

665
00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:30.840
you go watch anything about Dusty Rhodes, he gives so much credit to Thunderbolt

666
00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:38.320
Patterson for developing who The Dusty Rhodes
character was just severely underrated. The US

667
00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:43.159
Express. I don't know about you. I was surprised at that one so

668
00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:45.960
speak because I don't. I think
there are one time tag team champions,

669
00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:52.320
but they're better known in other tag
teams, in other stables. I mean,

670
00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:54.960
micro tun is better known for his
time as IRS with money inc That

671
00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:58.599
I think he was in the US
Express Barry Windham of course with his time

672
00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:02.519
in the Horseman. I'm not gonna
I hate saying this. I almost feel

673
00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:08.360
like this was facing because of Brace
passing to induct retired they end at this

674
00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:14.360
time, so and and to put
the US Express in before the Midnight Express,

675
00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:17.039
I think is a travesty. So
outside of that, I think the

676
00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:21.559
other inductees are are all great and
it makes a lot of sense. But

677
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:25.039
uh yeah, to me, the
fact that you know, beautiful Bobby is

678
00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:29.440
not a w Hall of Fame with
either sweet Stand or Lover Moore Dennis is

679
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:32.679
just you know, sad because Army
they're one of the great top five tag

680
00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:37.599
teams of all time. US Express
was in CHAMPIONIP Pressing from Florida. Outside

681
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:42.760
of WF, they also were in
All Japan Pro Wrestling. They did a

682
00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:45.840
couple of runs in a w A
for a little bit, so while it

683
00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:47.920
was a very short tandem, I
do agree with you, doctor Trey,

684
00:49:49.000 --> 00:49:53.320
that it's not a you. You
don't really go back and you think about

685
00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:59.960
Barry Wyndham and Mike Rotunda in that
tag team. I always think of Barry

686
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:04.719
Windom and the four Horsemen. I
always think of micro Tunda in as I

687
00:50:04.920 --> 00:50:07.800
R S. And then second to
that is actually the Varsity Club marketing in

688
00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:13.679
w CW. So uh to me, I always remember the US Express.

689
00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:17.480
Actually, to me, their claim
to fame as as a fan who did

690
00:50:17.519 --> 00:50:21.039
not really get a chance to watch
them, you know, while they were

691
00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:27.280
performing, was that they had the
original real American theme song for Hulk Cogan.

692
00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:31.480
So my my memory of them was
that short, that that little short

693
00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:36.239
few they had with your Nikolay Volkov
on the iron sheet. And outside of

694
00:50:36.280 --> 00:50:38.880
that, like I and I am
a diehard wrestling fan, I really don't

695
00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:44.679
remember their time in a W A
Georgia anything, just that short little window

696
00:50:44.679 --> 00:50:46.719
of WW, because I, like
you said, I picture window with the

697
00:50:46.760 --> 00:50:52.920
Horsemen or even the West Texas Rednecks
is Courreer Blackjacks, even yeah, I

698
00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:55.599
mean, I mean in micron,
it's it's to me, it's I R

699
00:50:55.760 --> 00:51:00.519
S. It's the Varsity Club,
It's all those things before the Express.

700
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:04.800
Though VK. Wall Street was that
his name in WW or Michael wall Street

701
00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:07.559
or something like that. It was
bald. He had bald, he would

702
00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:10.199
be a wall Street. And I
think Vince try to sue him over that

703
00:51:10.880 --> 00:51:15.800
wall street. Yes, so there
you go. The the latest inductees into

704
00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:19.880
the Dodey Hall of Fame Class twenty
twenty four. There are some rumbor names

705
00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:23.400
to be included in this one.
I believe Leamy Via the grandmother of the

706
00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:28.440
Rock who, if anybody watched Young
Rock kind of got a revival. That

707
00:51:28.519 --> 00:51:31.719
was a very enjoyable character that was
played on the Young Rock Show. She

708
00:51:31.840 --> 00:51:37.960
was a promoter down in Polynesian pro
wrestling, and it is out there that

709
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:42.800
the rumor right now, it's all
unconfirmed that Bray Wyatt would be inducted into

710
00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:46.960
this WA Hall of Fame classitudenty twenty
four, which if that is to take

711
00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:50.639
place, would make a ton of
sense. With Mike Rotunda his father and

712
00:51:50.679 --> 00:51:54.360
Barry Wyndham his I believe uncle is
Barry Wyndham. I believe they are.

713
00:51:55.199 --> 00:52:01.000
I think Mike Rotunda married Barry Wyndham's
sister. I think that's how it works

714
00:52:01.000 --> 00:52:04.280
out, so they're all family and
that would make a ton of sense.

715
00:52:05.239 --> 00:52:07.400
I actually thought that bray White,
if he was going in, would have

716
00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:12.039
been the first inductee announced. It's
quite possibly maybe the last one, which

717
00:52:12.039 --> 00:52:15.400
would make a ton of sense as
well, so I'm sure we'll get more

718
00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:20.519
inductees when we sit down and we
talk about next week's stition. The SRTU

719
00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:23.639
some updates to the WRESTLEMANI forty card
round up, so we have two new

720
00:52:23.679 --> 00:52:29.079
official matches to WrestleMania forty. It
is official Roman Reigns in the Rock will

721
00:52:29.079 --> 00:52:32.079
be taken on Cody Rhodes and Seth
Freakin Rollins at Wresselmania Night one. If

722
00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:36.119
Roads and Rollins win, then all
members of the Bloodline will be barred from

723
00:52:36.199 --> 00:52:39.159
ringside during Rhodes's match with Roman Reigns
on nine two. If Rains and Rock

724
00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:43.280
win the championship, then the championship
match on Night two will be held under

725
00:52:43.320 --> 00:52:46.599
Bloodline rules. And then we also
have Gunther versus Sammy Zain for the we

726
00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:52.119
Intercunalental Championship. That is now official
as Sammy Zain won the Gauntlet match on

727
00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:55.039
Raw. That was very fun match
to close out Raw. And then we

728
00:52:55.119 --> 00:53:00.360
have a semi official match as Damian
priest Infant Balor will defend and the undisputed

729
00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:06.039
WA Tag Team Championship in a six
pack ladder match. I believe three matches

730
00:53:06.039 --> 00:53:08.599
will be taking place on Monday's edition
of Raw to qualify for that. So

731
00:53:08.639 --> 00:53:15.079
it's very well possible that maybe at
least four out of six competitors or five

732
00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:17.280
out of six competitors will be announced
by the time we sit down for next

733
00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:21.719
week's Just in the podcast. So
about two and a half matches officially announced

734
00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:28.000
for wrestling as of this week.
Doctor Trey. Yeah, I mean the

735
00:53:28.039 --> 00:53:31.079
tag match with Roman and Rock and
Seth and Cody's gonna be pretty cool,

736
00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:37.920
just converging of you know, wrestling
timeline, so to speak, with the

737
00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:40.119
Rock being in the ring with Cody
and with Seth and Roman being in there

738
00:53:40.159 --> 00:53:46.639
as well. It's gonna be interesting
because arguably somebody is going to headline both

739
00:53:46.719 --> 00:53:51.039
Knights of WrestleMania. I mean,
it could be Cody and Roman headlining both

740
00:53:51.119 --> 00:53:55.039
Knights, which would be interesting if
that's throughout the Go Samy and Goother is

741
00:53:55.119 --> 00:54:00.320
interesting. I kind of kept thinking
that WrestleMania might be when some he takes

742
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:05.159
the belt off Goother and I don't
know if Sammy's the right guy to do

743
00:54:05.239 --> 00:54:08.320
that, so that'll be interesting.
And the six pack ladder match for the

744
00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:12.079
tag belts, I'm calling it right
now. This is how we split the

745
00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:15.719
tag belts because one team's gonna grab
the Red belt or one team's gonna grab

746
00:54:15.719 --> 00:54:17.800
the Blue Belts at the same time. And that's how we get different tag

747
00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:22.079
team champions, one for SmackDown and
one for a Wrong. We have been

748
00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:24.239
calling for that for some time,
Doctor Truck, Yeah, which I mean,

749
00:54:24.280 --> 00:54:28.039
I you know, we both love
the Judgment Day, but I mean

750
00:54:28.079 --> 00:54:32.000
when you got if you have enough
tag teams to do ten tag matches to

751
00:54:32.039 --> 00:54:37.840
get entered into this tournament, you
should put the titles. I'm in favor

752
00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:40.760
of splitting the titles. I'm an
agreement on that, so I would be

753
00:54:40.800 --> 00:54:45.280
totally fine if one team comes down
with one title the other team comes down

754
00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:47.960
with the other. I think that'd
be fun. Rumored expected matches, we

755
00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:52.800
saw a little bit of momentum forward
in the LA nine and AJ Styles potential

756
00:54:52.880 --> 00:54:58.119
match with rust Many forty as AJ
Styles had a promo on Friday SmackDown.

757
00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:06.199
The j Uso Jimmy Uso match got
a lot more momentum as jay Uso formally

758
00:55:06.960 --> 00:55:09.159
challenged Jimmy four match with Wrestminting forty. I would expect that match to be

759
00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:14.840
official on next week's edition of SRTU
and then I don't know what they're going

760
00:55:14.920 --> 00:55:16.639
to do with the United States Championship
right now. I almost feel like we

761
00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:20.599
maybe looking at a triple threat dotch
tray with Logan, Paul, rand Yorton,

762
00:55:20.639 --> 00:55:23.800
Kevin Owens. I also maybe think
that maybe it's a five pack match

763
00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:29.599
with or fatal five way with Grayson
Waller and Austin Theory involved as well.

764
00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:34.559
So those were three things that I
noticed from this past week of WWE programming

765
00:55:34.559 --> 00:55:38.760
in regards to the wrestlemaning card.
Yeah, and then also on Jimmy Kimmel,

766
00:55:38.840 --> 00:55:44.360
Johnsena was on there after his Oscar's
performance saying that East free WrestleMania weekend,

767
00:55:44.400 --> 00:55:46.079
so I wouldn't be surprised see Johnson
to get shoved in there somewhere.

768
00:55:46.920 --> 00:55:49.920
By the way. I don't know
if you saw this back then, that

769
00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:53.159
pop up r KO with Kevin Owens
and Randy Ortan, that's really really cool.

770
00:55:54.559 --> 00:55:57.320
But yeah, I'm with you,
like, I'm like, I don't

771
00:55:57.400 --> 00:56:00.519
know, maybe it is a five
way match because you want to get all

772
00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:02.079
these guys in the car. But
then we also, you know, we're

773
00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:06.000
probably gonund have the hundred the Giant
Battle Royal on some back down, which

774
00:56:06.079 --> 00:56:09.079
might pull Waller and Theory into that, and we just do Randy Kevin and

775
00:56:09.119 --> 00:56:15.280
Logan Paul. So that's it's gonna
inter see how that plays out. And

776
00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:17.000
then I'm still interesting what they're gonna
do with the whole NY at Jack's Live

777
00:56:17.079 --> 00:56:22.480
Morgan Factor with Becky Lynton Rea Ripley, because if we're getting a last woman's

778
00:56:22.519 --> 00:56:27.920
standing match on Raw this coming up
Monday, that's still gonna play into this.

779
00:56:27.960 --> 00:56:30.639
Because I don't know if you can
leave those those two let Riha,

780
00:56:30.760 --> 00:56:34.360
I mean we Live and n I
have been doing a really phenomenal job since

781
00:56:34.400 --> 00:56:37.039
the Rumble and even for NY even
before the Rumble. I don't know if

782
00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:40.400
you can leave them out of the
picture. Yeah, I know you were

783
00:56:40.400 --> 00:56:44.400
saying that early on. You were
on that and I was not in favor

784
00:56:44.400 --> 00:56:47.320
of it. I would certainly believe
the way that booking is going, creative

785
00:56:47.400 --> 00:56:52.119
is going that there is that possibility
that door is potentially open for that.

786
00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:57.079
I wouldn't. I still am not
in favor of the Ria Becky match becoming

787
00:56:57.119 --> 00:57:00.199
a fatal four way, but I
can understand it making sense. I think

788
00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:05.039
the build of Live and Naya should
be put towards maybe the Women's Battle Royal

789
00:57:05.079 --> 00:57:07.039
if they so choose that, I
think, you know, use that fire

790
00:57:07.119 --> 00:57:10.400
for there and then coming out of
wrestlem and he heading into backlash, and

791
00:57:10.440 --> 00:57:16.199
I think Early may use that momentum
for maybe a fatal four way then between

792
00:57:16.239 --> 00:57:22.119
all four ladies. Yeah, I
mean, I don't want the Ria Becky

793
00:57:22.199 --> 00:57:24.039
mash to be a four way,
but just the Yeah, I don't want

794
00:57:24.039 --> 00:57:27.320
to say the writing's on the wall, but it does kind of make me

795
00:57:27.400 --> 00:57:30.639
nervous because I just, like we
said with the last couple of weeks,

796
00:57:30.679 --> 00:57:35.880
I just don't want Ria Becky becoming
what Becky and Ronda and then adding somebody

797
00:57:35.880 --> 00:57:38.719
else into the mix. You know
what the taste it left in everybody's mouth.

798
00:57:38.800 --> 00:57:44.000
We never got Becky and Ronda one
on one, and we've only had

799
00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:47.360
Becky in Rio one on one once
and that was like six seven years ago,

800
00:57:47.519 --> 00:57:52.480
so on television. Yeah, so
I kind of want to leave Becky

801
00:57:52.519 --> 00:57:55.639
and Rio one on one, but
I wouldn't be oh how about that?

802
00:57:55.760 --> 00:58:00.679
But the cashion is that Damien comes
down to help Ria, death comes down

803
00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:05.440
to counter and then Damien cashes in
on Seth during the Women's title match that

804
00:58:05.480 --> 00:58:08.400
would be that'd be creative, it
would be different. But I think I

805
00:58:08.400 --> 00:58:12.119
I mean, I hear you on
that one. I do think that we're

806
00:58:12.119 --> 00:58:15.599
gonna see cash in here very soon. That's where I think the potential of

807
00:58:15.679 --> 00:58:22.119
Drew McIntyre turning baby face potentially happens. I agree because I think the I

808
00:58:22.159 --> 00:58:24.000
think Seth is going to need time
off. I think we all could agree

809
00:58:24.039 --> 00:58:29.960
that Seth needs the stuff for a
little bit. Poor guys, basically,

810
00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:31.679
he's been the horse now that you've
plowed the field with so many times that

811
00:58:31.719 --> 00:58:35.719
you may feel like you'd got to
put him down almost at some point though

812
00:58:36.039 --> 00:58:40.199
at least Drew playing tween or if
Damien cashes in on Drew that Drew consveror

813
00:58:40.239 --> 00:58:44.840
Damien and the fans will be behind
him, you know, basically him getting

814
00:58:44.840 --> 00:58:46.480
screwed over again, so to speak. You know, there's a lot of

815
00:58:46.480 --> 00:58:49.719
people making a lot of stuff,
and I think we talked about it even

816
00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:52.719
on the podcast that like Seth Ron's
was looking like a bit player when he

817
00:58:52.760 --> 00:58:57.360
came to the Roman Rock Cody Road
stuff. Do you feel that way now,

818
00:58:57.400 --> 00:59:00.559
because I think it makes sense as
to why he was kind of just

819
00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:04.199
sitting in the background observing what was
taking place and was perceived to be a

820
00:59:04.199 --> 00:59:06.480
bit player, but he was observed
what was going on and was like,

821
00:59:06.519 --> 00:59:08.960
this is bullshit. Well, at
first, he was the one guy that

822
00:59:09.079 --> 00:59:15.599
didn't really have, you know,
a reason to interject himself, you know,

823
00:59:15.679 --> 00:59:17.039
And I think that's why early on
he felt like a bit player,

824
00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:21.199
because I mean, for most of
us, we think back to WrestleMania,

825
00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:23.079
you know, a couple of two
years ago, and it was Seth and

826
00:59:23.119 --> 00:59:28.320
Cody hated each other and there's still
that mutual respect, but I don't like

827
00:59:28.360 --> 00:59:31.599
the guy approach to it. But
we understand Cody and Roman. We understand

828
00:59:31.639 --> 00:59:37.079
Cody and Rock and Seth was kind
of like the auxiliary piece. But storyline

829
00:59:37.119 --> 00:59:40.679
wise and what they've done with you
know, the promos and the segments,

830
00:59:40.760 --> 00:59:45.920
it makes sense as to why he's
interjected himself. I almost feel like after

831
00:59:45.960 --> 00:59:52.480
that Friday Night promo that Roman's almost
like the ancillary piece in this whole thing

832
00:59:52.519 --> 00:59:55.000
because he's the one that's not doing
a lot of talking. It's focused mostly

833
00:59:55.039 --> 01:00:01.280
on Seth, Cody and Rock lately. Yeah uh yeah, I don't know,

834
01:00:02.679 --> 01:00:07.199
you think it's just focusing on Seth, Cody Rock leaving Roman in the

835
01:00:07.239 --> 01:00:12.239
background. Now, Yeah, I
think with Roman you don't have to do

836
01:00:12.280 --> 01:00:15.079
as much to build him into mesh
because he's got three years of credibility.

837
01:00:15.119 --> 01:00:19.239
So you've got to kind of focus
on the animosity between the other three guys

838
01:00:19.280 --> 01:00:22.119
and to hype it up a little
bit more. But you know, I

839
01:00:22.159 --> 01:00:24.480
think we'll see it more on this
week's Friday, Like as we close Wrestlementia

840
01:00:24.559 --> 01:00:29.719
start seeing a little bit more of
the Roman Rock interactions, because you know,

841
01:00:29.760 --> 01:00:30.719
for all intentsive purposes, I think
we all know we're going to get

842
01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:34.880
Roman and Rock at some point,
so you gotta start laying some some more

843
01:00:34.920 --> 01:00:37.239
groundwork for that as well. Yeah, I think Roman is coming off a

844
01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:40.760
little bit insecure, hence the reason
why he wanted Rock to acknowledge him,

845
01:00:40.840 --> 01:00:45.639
and he doesn't feel like he's the
alpha male. Ultimately, I feel like

846
01:00:45.639 --> 01:00:47.719
that's playing a role into it as
well, like letting Rock talk on his

847
01:00:47.840 --> 01:00:52.679
behalf and stuff like that. So
that's why I get really excited for Creative

848
01:00:52.719 --> 01:00:55.400
because you can kind of like look
at all these different areas and you're like,

849
01:00:55.440 --> 01:00:58.400
I could see this happening. I
could see that happen. I could

850
01:00:58.400 --> 01:01:00.920
see this happening and that's what makes
it cool for wrestling fan. There is

851
01:01:00.960 --> 01:01:06.440
all these different alternate universes that are
taking place right now and making it a

852
01:01:06.559 --> 01:01:09.599
very fun product. All Right.
With that said, let's close up shop

853
01:01:09.599 --> 01:01:13.960
on this week's sition of srt Do
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854
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858
01:01:29.360 --> 01:01:31.599
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860
01:01:35.639 --> 01:01:37.920
for world of Doctor Trey Franklin this
week? Well, like Jeff say,

861
01:01:37.960 --> 01:01:40.480
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01:01:40.519 --> 01:01:45.719
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863
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out Rocket City Championship Wrestling and Spartan
Championship Wrestling, the two shows I work

864
01:01:49.679 --> 01:01:52.760
with here in Alabama. Closing All
Star Wrestling Association as well as we are

865
01:01:52.760 --> 01:02:00.039
on the road to Wrestling Con seven. The official Wrestling Con seven flyer came

866
01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:05.880
out this week, a little bit
of homage to the pandemic era flyer,

867
01:02:05.880 --> 01:02:09.239
a little with the Tampa Bay buccaneer
style they did. We'll start getting official

868
01:02:09.239 --> 01:02:13.920
announcements for who's going to be on
the card over the coming weeks. I

869
01:02:13.960 --> 01:02:16.920
do think it's a little bit of
a homage to that Georgia Championship wrestlemer you're

870
01:02:16.920 --> 01:02:20.239
talking about it. I do believe
there's'll be a couple guys from those Georgia

871
01:02:20.280 --> 01:02:23.440
Championship wrestling days that will be a
part of Wrestling Con coming up this year.

872
01:02:23.559 --> 01:02:30.480
So May fifth with it, May
thirteen, forty year, May eighteen.

873
01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:32.480
I believe it is so. And
honestly, Jeff, I don't know

874
01:02:32.480 --> 01:02:37.079
if I'm gonna be at Wrestling Con
because of my potential surgery. I'm happy

875
01:02:37.320 --> 01:02:40.679
surgery. I'm happy. So you're
looking for just that stone cold pop if

876
01:02:40.679 --> 01:02:45.519
you're there, I'm looking for the
John Cena That's what I want. And

877
01:02:45.559 --> 01:02:50.280
doctor Trece just pointing to where he's
getting surgery. Yeah, like seen it

878
01:02:50.360 --> 01:02:53.320
did with his uh pectoral I may
be the first person to do a wrestling

879
01:02:53.320 --> 01:02:55.760
con on a Nie s coooter.
But that might be that might be what

880
01:02:55.840 --> 01:03:00.360
I do. That would be a
great addition to a gimmick right there,

881
01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:06.559
just just puttering around there. I
want I need the Rascal's Grand Canyon.

882
01:03:06.599 --> 01:03:08.360
I need a Rascal. That would
be great for the gimmick. Man,

883
01:03:08.920 --> 01:03:12.719
I'm down with that, even if
you don't need it, do it anyway,

884
01:03:13.840 --> 01:03:15.400
all right, So there you go. There are all the great things

885
01:03:15.440 --> 01:03:20.880
going on in SRT. You support
everything that is supporting us and everything that

886
01:03:20.920 --> 01:03:23.920
we support along the way. We
will be back next week another week forward

887
01:03:24.360 --> 01:03:30.639
towards the march to the road to
wrestle Mania forty Uh. It was just

888
01:03:30.920 --> 01:03:35.880
a great time right now professional wrestling, everything that's going on from AW andwe

889
01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:39.840
it's a very exciting time. And
we enjoy and appreciate everybody for sticking with

890
01:03:39.960 --> 01:03:44.440
us here and downloading and listening each
and every week as we go through all

891
01:03:44.480 --> 01:03:46.960
the great things that are going on
in the world professional wrestling. So until

892
01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:51.079
next week. For doctor Troy Franklin, I'm Jeff Pack. Thank you for

893
01:03:51.119 --> 01:03:52.760
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