Is WWE RAW heading to TNT & TBS? | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #722 – 12/14/23

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It's still welcome. Everybody. Welcome
to this week's edition a s Real to

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Show, episode number seven and twenty
two four December fourteenth, twenty twenty three.

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This is your w NXC deadline recap
and review edition of ass R Team.

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You. I am one after the
show. I am Jeff Peck,

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who joined every single week with my
cost the one only doctor trat Franklin,

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Doctor trait, Did you take out
Trick Williams my friend? Uh No,

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I did not whoop that trick.
I swear to God it was not me.

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But uh, I will say this. You guys just realize in seven

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hundred and twenty two episodes, I
have never done the opening for the show

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never No, I have never done
the whole Welko, welcome. I have

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never done that. I think we
have to do that at some point then

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we have to do that might be
there, that might be our surprise for

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beginning of the year. I don't
know. Well, I just told Doctor

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Trey off air that like there's a
strong potential that I'm going to need jaw

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surgery in twenty twenty four, which
is great, great news for me.

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I'm very excited about that, which
would like shut down my voice for two

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weeks, and of course typical me
like afterwards, I'm like, how the

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hell are we gonna do the podcast? What am I going to do?

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I was like, I guess we're
gonna have to like record, which I

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could pre record and we would call
it like Jeff Getz Jaw Surgery episodes,

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because that would be like I always
loved, like we were talking off air,

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like getting the holiday programming schedule ready, and I really look forward to

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the next three shows that we do
because they're just conversation and there's obviously structure,

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but it's not the structure that you'll
see in today's podcast. So I

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was like, maybe we'll go back
to our roots and do like our far

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five favorite wrestlers of today, and
when we used to do five favorite team

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stables, favorite wrestlmining matches. Always
loved doing the top five stuff, which

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was like our special shows as I
used to call them. But yeah,

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I mean, that's coming up on
the dock at A spoiler alert for anybody

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looking for twenty twenty four. Unless
my insurance is real pain in the ass,

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I fully expect that at some point
sometime soon, I think I will

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have to go under the knife which
is not gonna be a lot of fun.

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I was kind of hoping to hear, like Jeff try to do the

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podcast with his jaw wired shut and
just kind of mumble wrap his way through

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the whole podcast. But you know
what, we never did our top five

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managers. We never did our top
five valets, So there's a lot We

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never really did our top five commentary
teams or people. So there's a lot

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of things we've never actually cover.
We've done tag teams, we've done wrestlers,

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we've done I think we did like
events one time, or our top

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five most memorable events that we've ever
remember watching things like that, but we

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never did it, like the any
of the ancillary characters are professional wrestling.

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So if we had to if your
if your mouth gets wired shuts, you

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know, there's a couple of things
and we always put the listeners. Hey,

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you know, give us you know, we could do the high fidelity

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version, like you give me your
top five favorite blah blah blah, throw

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it out to the fans see what
they want to hear. Yeah, yeah,

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we could do that. I mean
it would be like the Jeff had

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Jeff Jeff's Surgery episodes of SRT where
it would be like I don't know.

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I spoke to the doctor. Obviously
I don't have full details yet, but

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I was like, so when can
I talk? And it seems like right

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away, but it wouldn't be anything
like strenuous. I mean, how is

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it. How excited is the life
about you having joff surgery? No?

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No, it'll talk for two weeks, probably very you know, this has

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been something I've been dealing with for
some time, and it was like we

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weren't getting answers. Then I finally
did, like I'll explain it once I

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have a full grasp of what the
hell's going on to get people like,

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oh, this is Jeff's personal life, personal medical life. So she was

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relieved to finally realize like, Okay, this is what it is, and

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this is what we're gonna do,
and this is the likelihood of what we're

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gonna do, and I have to
go through all this other testing and whatnot.

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But yeah, it was probably relief, and then once she realizes everything's

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gonna be okay, probably like more
relief and excitement that I'll be at least

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quiet for a period of time,
like at least a week and a half

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to two weeks, so I'm sure
she's probably The downside is it's gonna be

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after Packer football season and right before
Yankees season kicks off, so that time

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you can't talk. It's not like
she's not listening to you drone on and

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on about you know, Jordan love
Jersey or how much you have you're happy

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that Juan Sodas with the Yankees,
Like there's that middle ground. In February,

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there's like no sports going on,
and that's when you won't be able

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to talk. And so she's just
gonna be like he wasn't gonna talk to

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during this time of the year anyway, there's nothing to talk about. True,

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true, So I guess say tuned
for more of that. But yeah,

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this is the last quote regular show
of SRTU as we we send into

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the next three weeks of the still
Realta Show or I guess we'll you know

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again just mention our holiday programming schedule. Next Thursday is the first one we

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look back at our twenty twenty three
Bold Predictions and recap professional wrestling in twenty

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twenty three. That's going to be
an interesting one. I'm I'm intrigued on

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how the discussion goes for like all
Elite Wrestling when we look back at their

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twenty twenty three In two weeks on
the twenty eighth of December, we wrap

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up the year, which is wild
to say, with the twenty twenty three

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SRTU Award Show Special, and then
in three weeks on Thursday, January fourth,

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twenty twenty four, it's the first
show of the year. It'll be

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the twenty twenty four Wrestling preview show. We'll give our five bold predictions and

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our wrestle many forty card predictions,
which is our which is traditional here on

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SRTU and Doctor Train and I did
also discuss offline that during this time,

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while it won't be on the regular
shows or the holiday programming schedule that you

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guys have, Doctor Tran and I
are going to record these in advance.

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Gives us like three weeks to unwine, decompress, and you know, enjoy

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some time with family and friends during
the holidays. However, we will get

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on here for at least like ten
to fifteen minutes, throw out a bonus

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show where were people aw World,
and then we will also do a recap

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of aw World's n that'll probably happen
after the twenty twenty four Wrestling Previews show.

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So lots of cool stuff going on
here on SRTU on Pump Filolity program

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scheduled Dot to Try. Yeah,
you know, you and I are are

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kind of, I don't want to
say wrestling savants, but we're we're we

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have we have a pretty good knowledge
of wrestling, and the awards or the

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bold prediction shows and recap shows are
usually as ones that remind us that we

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are not good at this job at
times. But I do love this time

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of year because with the fantasy booker
side of us comes out more. We

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get to kind of, you know, like how cool would this be?

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Or how coould this be? The
plus, we get to kind of clue

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people in into what we're watching because
I mean obviously sometimes you can hear so

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we're like, yeah, we really
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this year, so let's wing it
and see how it goes. And we

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kind of go off there. So
uh, It's it's really one of my

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favorite times, other than you know, having to listen to my voice back.

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It's I still cringe at those day
at those shows. The what do

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you call yourself about? Like the
red neck Cermit the Frog. Yeah,

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I'm like the redneck Cermit the Frog, which I right now with is congested

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as my sinuses are. I don't
really know. I will say I think

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the accent has gotten better over the
years, and my voice has gotten a

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little bit deeper. Yeah, yeah, I've noticed that. It's isn't that

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wild when you like listen back to
our old shows and like, wow,

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my voice has changed. Yeah,
and then you don't notice it because like

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nobody brings it up because otherwise they
think that, like, why would you

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say that to me? It's weird. Hey man, your voice has gotten

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deeper. It's like, dude,
I'm thirty seven. What are you talking

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about? Yeah, it's like life
happens. Like like I've honestly Jeff knows

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this. I'm one of the uncol
people that still smokes occasionally. It's like,

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yeah, I've been smoking since I
was eighteen. Like there's thirty years

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of smokers coughin me. So it'll
that's what happens. I have noticed as

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times goes on, you're not as
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to. I kind of quit,
So I do. I have the vape

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every now and then and it's helped
me. I went from two packs a

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day down to like maybe five cigarettes
a day. Oh so wow, good

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for you man, chip Away,
Chip Away. That that'll be the resolution.

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We'll talk about it more on a
couple of weeks here on SRTU.

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So yeah, this is the last
normal regular show. We're gonna get into

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a lot of fun here over the
coming weeks on SRTU. So really looking

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forward to it. Let's begin.
NXC Deadline recap review came to us this

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past Saturday from the Total Mortgage Arena
in Bridgeport, Connecticut, right down the

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road from the headquarters of W and
Stanford, Connecticut. The pre show match

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was Axiom defeating Nathan Fraser. I'd
Axiom dot trade Nathan Fraser. It was

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a strong pre show match Axiom and
Nathan and Fraser are very talent, right

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who I hope you a push up
the car here in twenty twenty four Dutch

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training thoughts on the pre show match. Yeah, I thought it was a

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good high flying match. I was
a little disappointed he's in the Nathan Fraser

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turn, and I guess maybe it's
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You know, Axiom is one of
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there's a really good pass compared maybe
mister j L in the WCW days as

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far as he's a luchador, that's
not a luchador because he's not Hispanic in

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any kind of way, but it's
a I mean, he's gotten some of

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those matches on SMACKS, so he's
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can do something with him. And
then Nathan Fraser have been coming from the

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seth rollins Black and Brave or Black
and Bold Wrestling School. I mean,

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he's got you know, he's got
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kind of go far w INWWE.
So it was a really good match.

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I just I know there was a
storyline. I just when I watched him,

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like, I kind of felt it
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then when they got to the finish, it was then they tried to tell

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the story a little bit. I
just I kept waiting for that Nathan Frazier

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heel turned there at the end.
I didn't get it. Yeah, you

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could definitely tell those two guys had
before going out there, like let's go

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steal the show tonight, because that's
certainly what they tried to do sidebar.

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Mister Jail. You know who that
was? Right? Yeah, I've actually

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met the guy who has actually been
to RockA City. It was Jerry Lynn.

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Yeah, he's been to RockA City. Oh damn, I didn't know

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he was there. We had Jerry
Lynn in like write when he got signed

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to AW as a producer. One
of the last wrestling cause he did is

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we did the ECW Wrestling Call and
we had Saboo and Raven, but Jerry

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Lynn was there so great. There
was actually there's an interview with him that

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was put out. I think it
was, uh, oh, what's the

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guys the right rj City On his
little Hey e W show, Jerry Lynn

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actually talks about how he got that
thing, how he was supposed to be

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there, supposed to book him as
a power ranger, is mister Jail.

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Yeah, mister Jail was gonna be
their their attempt to make him into it

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basically a power ranger, and then
it fell off flat on his face.

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Mister Jail versus Robbie V in WNW
Saturday Night or Worldwide. I used to

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love those shows and it'd be like
at two o'clock here on the East Coast

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on a Sunday Worldwide would be popping
on. Next match, here is the

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main car. Dragon Lee defeats Dirty
Dominic Masterio to win the NX North American

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Championship. We both had Dirty Dom. The finish felt like it came out

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of nowhere and lack day build up
or acknowledge it from the commentators that Dragon

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Lee hit his finisher on Dirty Dom
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Dirty Dom was a warrior to help
elevate the NX brand over the last six

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months or so, so he should
as it should signal the end of his

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time with the brand. I'm excited
to see what dragon Ly accomplishes as a

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champion in we now, as they
are really hyping him up lately. Doctor

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Tree, your thoughts on the new
NX North American Champion, Dragon Lee defeating

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Dirty Domastereo. Yeah, I was, honestly, I was surprised at the

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finish. I was surprised at the
result anyway, Like, I don't know

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if this is one of the things
where they kind of had Wes Lee booked

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to do it, and then since
he got hurt, they shove Dragon Lee

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in the spot and just say,
hey, we'll just keep the result the

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same and take the belt off Dom. It is crazy that at this point,

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I mean a year and a half
ago, would we have ever said,

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like kudos to Dom for elevating a
division like it's just a It shows

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you how much he's progressed over the
last eighteen months as well. And I

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think part of it was, I
don't know if they knew what dragon Ly's

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finisher was, so I kind of
got on the commentary about that because a

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lot of his wins are by roll
ups or you know, surprise, you

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know, surprise pins out of nowhere. So the fact that he kind of

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got a clean win over Dom is
really impressive that they're going to that route.

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So yeah, I'm happy for dragon
Lee. It shows that they still

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have faith in him to be the
next Luca Star in WWE and not be

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the next thing car. Next match
here is Blair Davenport defeating Tiffany Stratton,

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Lash Legend, Kalonie Jordan, and
Fallon Henley to win the Women's Irons of

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Our Challenge and become the number one
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Year's Evil I and Tiffany Stratton,
Doctor Trey Blair Davenport the Iron Survivor Challenge

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match concept is awesome. This match
had some ebbs and flows where it was

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really good and then sometimes where you
could tell that some of the participants are

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still a little bit on the greener
side as their wrestling careers continue to blossom.

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I was surprised to see Blair Davenport
win, as it looked like she

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was being molded for a few but
the Key to Lions very soon. It

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still looks that way, especially if
you watch Tuesday's NXC. It was also

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great to see core Jade back in
the NXC post match as she attacked Lyra

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Valkyria Doctor Trey. Your thoughts as
Blair Davenport wins the Women's Iron Survivor Challenge

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Match, Yeah, like, I
agree there that you said there, Like

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the had some spots in there.
I'm like, damn, that's really impressive,

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you know. Metaphor coming out blocking
the door was kind of a cool

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little thing as well, you know, But then there's spots in the where

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you're like, Okay, yes,
some of these girls weren't ready for prime

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time. I'm also now a big
Falon Henry fan. She just reminds me

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a lot of like a young Mickey
James, and it's not just the dress.

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Is the way she read, so
is everything else. But you know,

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Colonie Jordan, she's not ready for
the spot yet. I like how

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they protected lash Legend and only gave
her a couple of big spots to hit,

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but really it was I give a
lot of credit to Blair and Tiffany

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for kind of carrying this match in
a lot of ways. But the transition

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now with Blair and Nikita and Kora
Jade and Larry Valkyrise all tied into the

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World title or the NXT women's title
division while you got Fallon and Tiffany on

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the side, it shows that they're
they're building some depth back in that women's

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division. You still got you know, rox Amperez that we'll see you later

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on the show. So you got
you know, eight to ten solid female

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wrestlers in NXT that you aren't ready
for prime time, but you can see

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where the future that division is going
to be. Next match here is Carmelo

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Hayes defeating Lexus King. Doctor Tryon
I both at Lexus King matches. Okay,

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I'm not sure that the Lexus King
character is really hit with me yet,

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King does not look great next to
one of nix He's best in Carmelo

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Hayes. In this match, I
thought a win would have been really helpful

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for Lexis and another Carmelo loss would
be intriguing, but I guess they did

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not want to go in that direction. The post match segment where Lexis King

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revealed that he didn't take out Trick
Williams came off a bit awkward as well.

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Brian Pillman looked like a future star
when he was in AW. I

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know Doctor Trey used to talk to
about him a lot on the NDE scene

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before he went to AW. I
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King character. Now he's in the
Breakout Tournament as well, coming up,

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but he's performed at a PLA.
This whole thing with Carmelo in this match

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and his character, it was all
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gotta be honest, Yeah, the
I didn't hate the match because there's just

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they're two different styles, and sometimes
styles make matches and sometimes styles don't mesh

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well in a match. And this
is also pretty much like the first time

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they've really had a match against each
other and they're still younger guys. So

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I don't hate the match. My
issue with it was the storyline ParvE.

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It did get kind of weird and
clunky, because like when you get to

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the end and the Carmelo's music is
playing and Lexus is like, hey,

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thanks for the rub at a ple
that's kind of a little inside for casual

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viewers, and then to play his
music in a loss is kind of weird.

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I will say, like watching him
work in the way they they're presenting

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him, it does feel like they're
trying to go the loose cannon Brian Pillman

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route with it, but he's still
learning the WWE system, you know.

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Guy, Remember like back when Ko
and Sammy and Baller came and there was

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ninety they had a rule it was
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they were ever even allowed to step
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sometimes they kind of have faith that

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these guys are probably a little bit
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this is one of those examples where
like, yeah, just because everything lines

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up pedigree wise and everything else that
you know, you got to have the

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right storytelling and everything else involved as
well. Otherwise it just seems weird and

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just you know, off putting.
Next match is Trick Williams defeating Diejack,

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Josh Briggs, Brodn Breaker and Tyler
Bait to win the Men's Eyes a Challenge

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and become the number one contender for
the NFC Championship At NXC New Year's Evil,

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we both had bron Breaker. This
was a great match, entertaining,

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fast paced and fun. Bron Breaker's
three pinfalls was an awesome spot. But

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then when Trick Williams going from zero
falls to four falls and the final ninety

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seconds was a ton of fun to
watch as you could feel the momentum build

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and the crowd was really into it. Fantastic work by all five men.

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Dout Trey. I love this match
a year ago. I love it a

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year later with the women's and the
men the men, this men's match was

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really really good. Trick Williams said
on Tuesday's NXT that he thought it was

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the match of the year for NXC. I have to agree with him.

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Great match, great concept. I
would love to see this continue a little

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bit more, but I also know
that when there is a really good thing

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that we're watching play out on television
that if it's overdone then it loses its

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luster. But really enjoy this match. Trick Williams wins the Men's Arms of

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Arron Challenge. Yeah, I love
this match. And there's a couple of

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things that that kind of said.
I mean, like, not only did

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Trick pull off, you know,
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he also took some pinfalls, So
like when he came out, I

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was like, I did not realize. First of all, I have not

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washed a ton of Trick Williams.
I watched him early on with Carmelo,

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but I haven't really watched them since
they kind of broke out as much.

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And I'm watching him, like I
did not realize how over he was with

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the crowd. Crowd is totally on
board with Trick Williams, and I'm watching

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him and I'm like, he reminds
me so much of Booker T when Booker

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T really first started getting his singles, push size, build, all the

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energy everything else. So I'm like, yeah, they got to start there

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in the making. And then to
see him basically, you know, keep

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getting pinned and taking a lot of
the pinfalls for a lot of that match,

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to have that great comeback at the
end, and really, I mean

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you could feel every time he got
paid, you can kind of feel the

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air of the crowd gets sad,
you can kind of go, oh,

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damn, they're not gonna let Trick
do it. But to pull it off

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at the end was great booking and
great storytelling as well. So I give

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a ton of kudos to not just
the guys in the match, because I

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thought all five guys killed it in
the ring, but the storytelling and the

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production in that match as well was
fantastic. So those guys did an amazing

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job and honestly kind of saved this
pl from being average at best. It

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did. It felt like a Seawn
Michaels produced match, just by the roller

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coaster of emotions and grabbing the crowd
and just phenomenal work. If you have

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not seen this match, go out
of your way and check it out.

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Next match is Kanu James defeating Roxdane
Perez in a steel cage match. I

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had Keana James Doctor Trey at Roxanne
Perez. Good physical match. Had a

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tough act to follow with that Man's
Honor Survivord Challenge match Paranzzy Dame with Kana

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James makes sense if you've been watching
XCV the last couple of weeks. In

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regards to Roxanne Perez, they need
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She has become very stagnant as a
character. It's either turn her heel

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or elevator to raw or smack down
and get her out of NXT. I

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personally would go with the heel turn
in NXT, but she's just feeling very

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flat and stagnant lately. Keanu James
gets the big victory Doctor Trey. Yeah,

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I mean this match to me was
wasn't like I don't know if you

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can say it was an average cage
match, Like nothing really stood out to

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me. Even the finish with Izzy
Dame getting involved and trying to slam the

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cage into Roxanne's head was missed,
Like it wasn't clean, So that made

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it feel weird too. Just I
just really did not get into this match

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at all. And I like Roxanne
Perez and I like Yanna James, so

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I just just didn't do anything for
me. I don't know if you can

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turn her heel, because you kind
of like if you go back and look

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at the Kora Jade stuff like Corey
j was a very similar character plucky young

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babyface that they turned heel. Could
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I think you can still develop more
of the character I come up. But

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ever since she had that weird injury
is she had to relinquish the NXC Women's

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Championship, Like, it just feels
like they don't know how to pull more

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out of her. And I think
that's something that she's gonna have to figure

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out, you know what, depth
to her character. I mean, it's

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a little bit Bailey. When Bailey
first started being the hugger, Like it

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was a great little gimmick, but
it took Bailey. They had to fight

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an edge and they had to find
depth of that character to really make it

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work. And I think that's where
they're kind of stuck with Roxanda right now.

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And then finally the main event,
Elia Dragonoff defeats Baron Corban to retain

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the NXC champion with that Elie again
in the victory. It was a little

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slow paced for my liking. Dragon
Off is a star and the right person

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to leave the NXC brand right now
in my opinion. Parahem with Baron Corbin

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definitely tested his future star power gets
an established talent in we I'm looking forward

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to seeing how Dragonof's match with Chuck
Williams a New Year's Evil plays out,

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Doctor Trey your thoughts. Elia defeats
Baron, I mean I thought it was

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a solid match. I mean,
it's when you have one of these I

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don't want to say Maine roster star. Baron's been down an XT back in

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at for a little while. With
Ilia, it's it's a little bit like

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the bron Breaker golfs where stuff we
saw, you know, a couple of

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years ago. It's it's a great
solid win for Ilia, but at the

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end of the day, it was
kind of a slightly above average match.

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And then it leads to more questions
for me, like, okay, the

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Ilia you know trick comes out and
then Carmelo's out there kind of behind him

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but not beside him. How does
that play into it? And then also

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just because we're we're you have both
are big Baron Corbyn guys, like where

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does he go from here? Did
they find something else from the do on

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NXT or do you do you bring
him back up to the main roster since

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you've kind of refreshed the character kind
of a little bit brought back a little

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bit of the lone Wolf gimmick.
So it's gonna be kind of interesting where

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those two guys go from here.
Sammy is is he did not enjoy the

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match. No, he did not. He he didn't like he did like

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Baron Korper's motorcycle. Though he didn't, I don't blame him. Pay review

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prediction record. Not a good night
for either one of us. I went

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three and four, Doctor Trey went
two and five. The NXC shows are

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really hard to predict, so hat
tip to them for that. I watch

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NXC every single week and it is
a hard show to predict each and every

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time. We have to do it. Twenty twenty three pay per view predictions

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record. We got one left aw
worlds En. I'm at one one hundred

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and twenty three and forty five Doctor
Trey one fourteen and fifty four pay per

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view event ratings. Match of the
night I gave NX Deadline a three point

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three. My match of the night
was the Men's Iron Survivor Challenge match.

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Doctor Trey. Dear Lord, I
mean, I'll just to be different.

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I'll go three point two. Like
I said, I thought it was a

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slightly I literally think at three point
three that you said, like, we

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can't agree on this one, I'll
go slightly loer. I'll go three point

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two because I thought it was a
slightly above average show, which literally is

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the point two being slightly above average, but the men's Iron Man match.

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Say that because I mean, this
could have been if that match had been

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average, just could have been a
two point seven two point I agree with

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you. I think it would have
been the worst WWEPL this year if it

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was not for that Men's Aren't Surviver
Challenge match, it might have been the

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worst NFC pay per viewear I've ever
covered if not for that Men's I Am

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Survivor. I don't think we've ever
had one below of three the two point

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zero era. Out of the Black
and Gold, it's been. It's not

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like I remember back in the day
when we would do takeovers. It was

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like every single time it was like
show the year, Show the year,

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match of the year they were coming
from it. It was such a great

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time period for NXT. I like
what they're doing the brand. I would

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say this was a very solid wrestling
show on a Saturday night, but it

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was better than Collision or Rampage.
I guess to take a shot at aw

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but I've not been a fan of
those two shows lately. But yeah,

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it was not not a great pl
for w I think it was probably from

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a w standpoint maybe in general,
and it wasn't awful god awful, but

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maybe my least liked pl this year
general payer view or PLA in wrestling.

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Yeah, I would agree, Like
once again, we always like to have

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things that stand out that make us
remember the show. And outside of tricks

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ninety seconds and maybe breakers three Spears
of the Row, I don't think there's

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anything else we can remember from the
show within a year. No, literally,

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go out of your way and watch
that Men's aren't throughout a challenge match.

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If you've not seen it, I
highly recommend it. Switching gears here

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a bit. I want to go
to Monday Night Raw. Actually, the

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guy who opened up NXT Deadline,
we'd even talk about the segment between cmpunk

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and Shawn Michaels, which was like
awkward as hell. It was, It

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ended really awkward and music his music
came on. I was like, okay,

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I guess they wrapped it and they
both were confused. Cempunk saved himself

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two nights later on Monday Night Raw, as he officially entered the Royal Rumble

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and planted seeds potentially for a WrestleMania
forty matchup with Seth Freaking Rolls as they

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went toe to toe on the microphone. I found the segment to be very

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entertaining and enjoyable and fun. His
promo on Friday's SmackDown Cempunk where he was

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taking aim and everybody and wants the
main event wrestlemanting, then following it up

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00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:12.720
on Monday's Raw, both are very
strong, and it was the Cmpunk that

403
00:26:12.759 --> 00:26:18.440
we know and love, like you
tend to forget sometimes, like how good

404
00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:21.680
he is on the microphone, and
then he does that stuff, really enjoyable

405
00:26:21.680 --> 00:26:25.039
stuff, the stuff with Seth Freaking
Rollins. It's like, give me this

406
00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:29.759
match, give me this match for
WrestleMania. We'll be predicting wrestleminging forty card

407
00:26:29.759 --> 00:26:32.720
in a couple of weeks. Here
on SRTU January the fourth, but I

408
00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:36.240
was like, man, this is
the beginning and I'm stoked for it.

409
00:26:36.319 --> 00:26:38.720
Your thoughts here, Punk enters the
Rumble and he goes face to face with

410
00:26:38.759 --> 00:26:41.880
Seth Freaking Rollins. Ought to try. Yeah, it was a much better

411
00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:47.200
a performance than the one on the
Deadline because that was literally two grown man

412
00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:51.559
that forgot everything they were going to
say. Yeah, it is also I

413
00:26:51.640 --> 00:26:53.680
love the whole like great nice hoodie, Oh sorry, I forgot my Sean

414
00:26:53.720 --> 00:26:56.680
Merch. I'm like all right,
there you go. And then everything else

415
00:26:56.720 --> 00:26:59.839
over that was just like yeah,
we don't know what we're saying right now.

416
00:26:59.839 --> 00:27:03.039
But the one out all you could
Tell was actually produced and they gave

417
00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:06.880
bullet points to hit and he nailed
it, Like, I mean, it

418
00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:10.759
was great. It was There are
very few people in this world that can

419
00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:14.880
grab a microphone for four or five
minutes and keep you entertained the entire time,

420
00:27:14.920 --> 00:27:18.000
and Punk is one of them.
And what he's on his game on

421
00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:21.359
the mic, there's hardly anybody better. So that was a great promo given

422
00:27:21.400 --> 00:27:23.880
the history of Cleveland, even bringing
up the Mickey James stuff, which is

423
00:27:23.920 --> 00:27:30.359
something I love that WW allows people
to do now is reference people who are

424
00:27:30.359 --> 00:27:33.960
not in the company. Although Mickey's
husband is, so I guess that's why

425
00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:36.759
it's okay, But you know the
stuff, I mean, even the fact

426
00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:40.720
that Adam Pierce reference he had a
twenty somebody year plus history with Cmpunk and

427
00:27:40.759 --> 00:27:45.799
then you know, the Rollin stuff
even made it even better. Just a

428
00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:48.720
fantastic job, and it's got me
psyched for WrestleMania. I mean, if

429
00:27:48.759 --> 00:27:52.799
I get if we end up getting
Roman Cody two and Punk Rawlins, I

430
00:27:52.839 --> 00:27:55.720
don't know what else you could throw
in there that would be bigger unless somehow

431
00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:59.319
the Rock showed up and we had
rocked in Roman. But outside of that,

432
00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:02.000
I don't know what else you can
get that'd be two bigger main events

433
00:28:02.039 --> 00:28:04.319
than those two guys going or those
four guys going at it. So looking

434
00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:07.759
forward to here towards the rest of
mainety forty. My theory on this all

435
00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:11.680
Doctor Trey is this was a really
good back and forth face to face promo

436
00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:18.880
battle between the two. Don't have
them interact with one another now until after

437
00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:22.960
the Royal Rumble, depending if CM
Punk wins that match. Like, keep

438
00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:26.319
these guys away from one another,
don't overdo it now, spread them apart

439
00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:30.680
until late January early February, is
my call on this. Yeah, it's

440
00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:33.400
kind of like the same thing we
talked about with Cody enrollment at times last

441
00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:36.799
year, Like you want to keep
them apart until you want to increase the

442
00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:41.359
intensity. The crazy thing about about
this is, you know, up until

443
00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:45.880
CM punk came back to w to
B seth Rawl's most popular guy in the

444
00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:49.559
company, people singing the songs,
everything. People were changing CM Punk with

445
00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:52.400
seth rawlins and the ring facing them, and we were not in Chicago.

446
00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:59.680
So makes it interesting to see how
if if this is the route they go,

447
00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:04.640
which one plays kind of the heel
at WrestleMania, because that's typically what

448
00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:08.519
they do is one guy plays up
the heel, maybe just a little bit

449
00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:11.559
more than usual to kind of get
the crowd to go to one side or

450
00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:15.559
the other. So that would be
interesting to see how they work that if

451
00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:19.079
this is the route they head for
WrestleMania. I did read a post punk

452
00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:22.319
joining Dodoi that I guess one of
the things is the plan is for Rons

453
00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:26.319
and him to feud, and the
creative working plan was that they were going

454
00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:30.359
to like let the fans acide who
they wanted to cheer, which I think

455
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:33.319
that's the right thing to do,
And what got Dodoe in trouble ten years

456
00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:37.799
ago when Ciampunk walked out on the
company was that they were trying to dictate

457
00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:41.680
who the fans liked and didn't let
the fans dictate who they like. And

458
00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:45.200
I think it's also fine if people
want to cheer for both guys. In

459
00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:48.680
all honesty, you know, face
versus face battle is not a bad thing

460
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:55.319
either, So it's not a bad
thing. I mean, but really,

461
00:29:55.359 --> 00:29:57.759
I mean, in the history of
WrestleMania's I mean, I think they've only

462
00:29:57.799 --> 00:30:02.319
pulled it off really once with Shawn
and Brent. You don't think Warrior Hogan,

463
00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:06.440
No, I think at that point
people were kind of out on Hogan

464
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:08.880
and wanted to see something new.
But then again in Toronto, I mean,

465
00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:11.279
it wasn't gonna have it for that
matches in Toronto and cans a weird

466
00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:15.000
crowd. What about Rock Sina.
I thought that was like a clashing of

467
00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:21.200
different fan bases and different eras of
wrestling. Yeah, but and I guess

468
00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:26.400
in a sense, seth and Punk
is kind of like a modern day I

469
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:29.240
don't say modern day because dear God, that makes me sound really really old,

470
00:30:29.319 --> 00:30:33.519
but it is kind of an updated
version of Rock and Hogan because there's

471
00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:41.519
similar characters but different generations. God, let's get old. But yeah,

472
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:45.759
it's just it's just I think they
even planning SE's looking like Seth was,

473
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:51.640
wasn't as flamboyant and not as arrogant
as he's been. The playful Seth like,

474
00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:56.559
I liked he was. I liked
him doctor try yep I did too,

475
00:30:56.599 --> 00:30:57.880
I thought because that way it also
tells the fans that, hey,

476
00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:02.119
if we want Seth to go back
to being the heel in this rivalry,

477
00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:03.279
we could do it. Plus,
he was wearing purple. That's also the

478
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:08.039
colors of the Judgment Day. Maybe
he and Our Truth have both joined,

479
00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:15.039
which sidebar Our Truth and the Judgment
Day stuff has been very fun. Speaking

480
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:18.079
of seth Ron's real quick story here
before we get into what's going on with

481
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:23.200
Ross TV deals. According this comes
to us from Fightful Select via Wrestling Ink.

482
00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:27.400
Fightfull Select is reporting that seth Ron's
contract with w is set to expire

483
00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:32.279
in June of next year. As
it stands, there reportably be no conversations

484
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:34.759
about extending his contract. Still,
Rollins as well liked and respected by management,

485
00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:38.160
and the report notes that an offer
will obviously be made some time between

486
00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:42.079
now and June, as the company
seeds Rollins as a priority. Fightful says

487
00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:45.319
Rollins has not responded to a request
for comment. Doctor Trey. I can't

488
00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:48.400
see him leaving WA. I gotta
be honest. I know we've said that

489
00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:52.799
before, Like I can't see Cody
leaving AW. I really would be shocked

490
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:56.920
if Seth Rollins left WA. No. And I think that promo he cut

491
00:31:56.960 --> 00:32:00.440
money and that I also illustrate that
point, like he's loyal. I mean

492
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:02.599
in Seth is Seth's one of those
guys. He's loyal to the He's loyal

493
00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:05.880
to those people who helped him out. And he's even said interviews in the

494
00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:07.720
past, you know, Punk's one
of the guys who helped him out on

495
00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:13.759
the indies when he didn't have to. And Seth takes a lot of pride

496
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:17.839
in being the face of WWE,
and and he's mentioned that several some times.

497
00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:22.200
Plus the other thing is W's known
for kind of waiting till like the

498
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:25.160
last month to kind of do these
deals. And if I'm not mistaken,

499
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:30.480
I believe Seth's wife's contract comes up
before his, and she's kind of a

500
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:37.119
big deal also, So they got
to get through one half of the Rawins

501
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:38.799
clam before they get to the other
half, I believe. So I just

502
00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:43.240
I just can't see Seth leaving I
mean, you know, Ambrose was a

503
00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:46.119
different character and John Moxy's a different
kind of breedy guy, and you know,

504
00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:50.519
what he wanted to do as a
wrestler did not fit what WW wanted.

505
00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:53.599
Seth is a WW guy. His
style fits you literally, like we

506
00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:58.960
have see him punk in the company. Sean Michaels kind of laid the groundwork

507
00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:02.519
for what see him and Seth Rollins
were. I just can't see Seth leaving

508
00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:07.960
the company just you know, on
principle alone, let alone. They have

509
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:09.799
quite a bit of money to pay
him. Yeah, No, they certainly

510
00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:15.400
do. Yeah, Rollins is a
w WEE guy. Next story here,

511
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:21.920
Doctor Trey and CM punk is influencing
this, but reportedly WW is met with

512
00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:29.559
Warner Brothers Discovery officials about Raw's TV
rights. This comes from Dave Meltzer on

513
00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:35.119
the Wrestling Observer Radio. I believe
it was on Wednesday, excuse me,

514
00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:39.440
Thursday of this week. Dave Meltzer
was quoted as saying, they're WWE's shopping

515
00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:45.119
it Raw TV rights around and WBD
Warder Brothers Discovery obviously being one of them,

516
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:49.960
and WBD seems to be dead and
it's not dead, seemed to be

517
00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:53.000
dead and it's not dead. That's
the basic thing with cmpunk there and everything

518
00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:57.039
like that. It's not dead.
It's not like people should go on like,

519
00:33:57.079 --> 00:33:59.599
oh my god, this and that. With AW there's no way of

520
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:01.960
knowing any think more other than they
did have a meeting and it's not dead.

521
00:34:02.119 --> 00:34:06.480
That's all w As far as the
raw deal, the talk is that

522
00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:10.079
they're finalizing, and belief is that
they're finalizing pretty soon. More quotes from

523
00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:15.519
Dave seeing Punk open up may have
been a shut door with WBD. How

524
00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:19.119
open that door is or what is
going to transpire. I don't know Punk.

525
00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:21.519
He's a significant player, and that's
one of the reasons he's going to

526
00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:23.880
be at the House show in Los
Angeles this week where he'll be wrestling Dirty

527
00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:28.639
Domesterio at the key of Forum,
because I'm sure that the people who they

528
00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:32.559
are courting Everyone's headquarters is in the
is in LA. And then the final

529
00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:37.599
quote here this past Monday morning,
TKO is Mark Shapiro as well as w's

530
00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:40.119
Nick Cohn and Paul Levec aka Triple
H. We're in New York City at

531
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:45.360
the Warner Brothers Discovery headquarters, meeting
with wb D executive Bruce Campbell about potentially

532
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:51.079
moving Raw to WBD. The w
contingent meent with Campbell for several hours Monday

533
00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:54.480
morning. According to w sources,
there are still other suitors, paul Aavek

534
00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:59.159
and Nick Connmer and Los Angeles several
weeks ago meeting with potential partners. They

535
00:34:59.159 --> 00:35:02.840
are seeking a major increase in Raw
media rights. Dot You, Trent,

536
00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:08.119
this is a mind blowing story here
that Punk may have given w W a

537
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:13.800
chance to potentially kick aw off of
tn T and TBS, assuming that will

538
00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:19.039
be the case. Thoughts you on
the story about Raw having conversations with Warner

539
00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:22.840
Brothers Discovery Now, it's it's it's
funny to me in a lot of ways.

540
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:25.039
This is kind of like the Big
the Big Fu from Punk to Tony

541
00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:30.159
Kanna always because if you go back
to when Collision was launched, a lot

542
00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:35.840
of that was contingent upon Punk being
on Collision and he was the water Burgs.

543
00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:37.280
Discovery guys were big Punk fans and
they wanted to make sure that they

544
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:39.119
did the second show. Punk was
going to be a part of it,

545
00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:43.239
and that's how he kind of,
you know, got in with those guys

546
00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:46.400
so to speak. And to have
him being one of the people to help,

547
00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:51.400
you know, facilitate this meeting is
kind of one of those like big

548
00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:54.480
shots across the face of Tony Kann, like you don't think I'm a big

549
00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:57.559
enough star that you can just fire
me, but look, let me get

550
00:35:57.559 --> 00:36:00.280
you. Let me help w B
get a deal that could potentially either kick

551
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:05.079
you off the network or even better, let us stay on the network.

552
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:09.000
And ww's deal is like three times
bigger, Like that would be another thing

553
00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:13.039
where it's like, you think you're
on equal footing with us, but our

554
00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:15.880
TV wrightter three times is what yours
are from the same company. So it's

555
00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:20.920
it's a really really crazy story.
If this, I think actually plays out

556
00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:22.920
the way it does. Is kind
of like if your favorite player goes you

557
00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:27.320
know, like you know, Tom
Brady goes to the Buccaneers and takes Rob

558
00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:30.360
Garkowski and has the team with him. Like that's kind of what this is

559
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:35.760
is opening that door to to make
that move, you know, and you

560
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:37.880
know, it's just it's a crazy
situation, but it is kind of a

561
00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:44.119
big fu to the owner of another
profession, like, hey, talent can

562
00:36:44.159 --> 00:36:47.519
help facilitate stuff if you can't get
the deal done yourself. So Obviously there's

563
00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:52.400
a lot of discussion that maybe there's
like these little subtle shots. Obviously Punk

564
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:55.519
is mentioned like in a SmackDown promo
like who would punch somebody? Backstage?

565
00:36:57.039 --> 00:37:01.719
AW ran the Devil Ankle on Wednesday
Night with Hangman Page, and people believe

566
00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:07.599
that the Devil is potentially Jack Perry. They did a glass spot with Hangman

567
00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:13.719
Page. This to me, like
shots or subtle shots in promos or in

568
00:37:13.800 --> 00:37:19.400
angles, does not speak the same
volumes. If somehow Cmpunk was like a

569
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:23.559
huge fu to AW and got them
in front of Warner Brothers Discovery executives to

570
00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:28.920
shop Monday night raw like that,
Like that's absurd to think about three months

571
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:34.159
ago. Oh, it's absolutely not
to do you do you have the Max

572
00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:37.719
app or any like that? You
I do not know. See I have

573
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:43.079
Max, and I actually like the
interface better than Peacock, And so for

574
00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:45.639
become like, hey, if they
moved to if they go to the disc

575
00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:49.440
you know, if they started putting
some of the other stuff on Discovery,

576
00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:53.039
the Discovery app or the Warner Brothers
app, like, the interface is better,

577
00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:58.639
So I'd be okay with that.
But literally to sit there and see,

578
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:00.920
you know how AW is always hurd
about how they're relevant and they're on

579
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:06.119
the same level, and they have
this happen to where warbuters could potentially kick

580
00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:10.320
them off the network for WWE,
which I don't think they can do given

581
00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:15.960
the contract, but they could easily
put w in better prime time slots for

582
00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:21.039
their programming and pay them more money
than they're paying Tony kN would be the

583
00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:24.320
ultimate like middle finger to Tony Khan
if this, if this comes to fruition,

584
00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:29.519
I do also think it's a little
I think it's more leveraging to get

585
00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:32.280
better deals from either USA or some
other network, because at the end of

586
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:36.920
the day, I don't think it's
realistic, but it is kind of one

587
00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:38.719
of those like eye opening things.
And for the report to get leaked out

588
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:45.639
as well during this time with Pugs, you know, reemergence in ww is

589
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:50.320
also another big shot across the bow. I have been so wrong in recent

590
00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:53.280
years about like where things are going, which is beautiful in this era of

591
00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:58.639
like always wanting to be right and
it being very predictable. It's a k

592
00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:02.119
to be wrong and and be to
be unpredictable. Never thought Cody Roach would

593
00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:07.400
be back in wa he came back. Never thought cmpunk would leave AWB fired

594
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:13.519
from AW and then go back to
WA. He did. I don't think

595
00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:16.760
Adam. Did you ever think Adam
Copeland would be an AW No, No,

596
00:39:17.079 --> 00:39:22.000
I didn't, And I don't think
Raw is airing on d and T

597
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:24.559
and DBS, but it's very well
possible in like a week or two weeks.

598
00:39:24.639 --> 00:39:29.320
I'm they're airing on TBS and T
or have a deal with them.

599
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:36.639
Do you remember when WW was on
TNN the oh yeah, yeah, the

600
00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:39.000
Nashville Network and then it became Spike
to me, yeah, and it was

601
00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:43.880
awful, Like I hated it.
That's that's my fear is that, like

602
00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:49.079
USA is, USA is so comfortable, like in my mind with Monday Night

603
00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:52.760
Raw that if I do worry that
if you switch Raw to a new network,

604
00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:57.920
how would that impact the show?
Because I think people just kind of

605
00:39:58.119 --> 00:40:02.039
intuitively know when Monday Night raws on, in what channel it's on where.

606
00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:07.440
I think if you start jumping it
around like you do, risk you do

607
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:12.159
risk losing some viewers just off that
comfortable level. I agree with you,

608
00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:15.559
I don't agree with the fact that
maybe Raw gets move off to Mondays as

609
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:20.800
well, which has been a rumor
that w W is open to I'm not

610
00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:24.039
a SmackDown has been moved around so
much, from like Thursdays to Wednesdays,

611
00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:29.599
to Tuesdays to Fridays. Actually like
Thursdays to Fridays, then to Tuesdays,

612
00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:31.559
then back to Thursdays then to Fridays. That it's like, yeah, whatever,

613
00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:36.280
whatever you want to do with SmackDown. I don't think Monday Night Raw

614
00:40:36.639 --> 00:40:40.239
needs to be off of Monday nights, like Monday Night Football didn't get changed

615
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:45.239
to like Tuesday Night Football. Wednesday
Night say Raw just sounds Wednesday Night Raw

616
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:49.320
sounds weird. No, don't want
that to happen. Don't want that to

617
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:52.800
happen at all. So, yeah, it's it's crazy times. I remember

618
00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:57.039
Raw leaving USA Network. I mean, SmackDown is going to the USA networked

619
00:40:57.039 --> 00:41:01.159
out to Trey, So there is
that. But I hear what you're saying.

620
00:41:01.960 --> 00:41:07.320
Do you know even what channel CW
is on to watch NXT on when

621
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:12.039
they move When they made the announcement, I have DirecTV stream and I had

622
00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:14.320
to take a look to make sure
that I had CW, so I do.

623
00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:17.519
So I didn't even know. All
I knew about CW was that that's

624
00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:21.960
the channel. That Arrow and The
Flash were on at one point because that's

625
00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:24.840
what remember Cody Rose was on Arrow
because him was Stephen Emmel and I was

626
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:29.679
like, wait, is that still
a network like I had? I had

627
00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:30.400
to say the thing. I had
to go look it up because I'm like,

628
00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:34.079
I guess this is gonna be one
thing where I just have to stream

629
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:37.840
it because I don't even like me
now, everything I have runs off my

630
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:43.280
Roku, so I don't even have
the capabilities to kind of find it unless

631
00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:45.760
it's on one of these other apps. I may have to download the CW

632
00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:49.800
app just to watch n XT.
And I remember like CW would always air

633
00:41:49.840 --> 00:41:52.559
like reruns of Family Feud, so
I guess, yes, it'll air after

634
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:59.679
Family Feud or before real last thing
here. Do you think Aw's in trouble.

635
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:05.119
I don't think they're in trouble in
the sense of are they going like

636
00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:07.679
it's funny off air where you had
the conversation about like like for years we

637
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:12.119
always had the is TNA Impact Wrestling
going out of business? I don't think

638
00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:15.639
they're in trouble in the sense of
they're going out of business. I do

639
00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:21.000
think that this is kind of a
reminder to them that you know, hey,

640
00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:25.559
sometimes the big dog will you know, bite you just to remind you

641
00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:29.800
that it's their yard. I think
this is one of those situations where it's

642
00:42:29.880 --> 00:42:32.320
kind of like, WWE's your money
them, Like you and I talked I

643
00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:35.559
think it was last week a week
before about like, I don't know how

644
00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:37.360
they're making money, and then I'm
going to report the aw's prodicted to lose

645
00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:42.719
thirty two million dollars this year.
So it's like, well, obviously then

646
00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:47.400
they're not making money and the TV
deals not helping them make the profit like

647
00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:51.840
it does for WWE. The Merchelles
isn't doing it. So I think this

648
00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:53.280
is one of those this might be
one of those moments where they kind of

649
00:42:53.320 --> 00:43:00.920
have to reevaluate their business plan for
long term because if the company that they've

650
00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:06.159
literally been working with since day one
is looking at other, you know,

651
00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:09.039
another company, it's just reminded that, hey, you're not on their level

652
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:14.599
yet. Yeah, no, that's
very true. I'm it's unfortunate. I

653
00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:17.840
mean, we need a solid competitor
w W because we're getting great wrestling.

654
00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:22.679
I want AW thrive. I ultimately
think RAW doesn't go to T and T

655
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:25.880
and TBS. I think AW stays
with Warner Brothers Discovery. I think that

656
00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:30.679
relationship is good. We will learn
in the coming weeks how good it is.

657
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:36.159
Ultimately, if WWE is coming to
TN T and TBS or TBS,

658
00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:38.800
then maybe it's not as good.
Maybe AW stays. I'm Warner Brothers Discovery.

659
00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:45.320
I can't see them wanting to pay
for RAW a boatload of money and

660
00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:47.880
also keep AW prother say, by
the way, do you know you know

661
00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:52.159
why I think they said they have
been opened that they've opened up the fact

662
00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:54.079
that hey, we may well we
might be open to not having Raw on

663
00:43:54.159 --> 00:44:00.440
Mondays is because that allows ESPN Disney
to come into the mix because ESPN is

664
00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:05.000
not moving Monday night football. Yeah, you're right, absolutely right. And

665
00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:09.440
then the relationship with Endeavor TKO with
ESPN has been pretty solid, so hey,

666
00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:13.760
that might open up that door that
Hey, if Warbur's looking at us,

667
00:44:14.119 --> 00:44:16.400
you guys might want to up the
ante and also like give us a

668
00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:20.840
bit more money to change our branding
to move to a Tuesday night instead.

669
00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:24.159
Twenty twenty four wrestling is going to
be really really interesting. I mean,

670
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:30.199
outside of TV deals and free agency, Like it's going to be a wild,

671
00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:36.199
wild year. All right, we'll
I'm more about to talk about that

672
00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:38.760
here in the coming weeks on srt
We'll have to make some notes to bring

673
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:43.360
that stuff up. Sammy. Yes, yeah, you know he's here.

674
00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:46.079
He's literally like trying to shoot me
with an NERF gun right now. Hey,

675
00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:49.199
not as well, you know,
duck and run, I guess.

676
00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:53.599
Update to a story that we cover
on last week's episode of SRTU, According

677
00:44:53.639 --> 00:45:00.599
to reports, there is some belief
that the WWE is reportedly favorites to sign

678
00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:05.079
one Kaziska Okada should he leave New
Japan Pro Wrestling. This comes to us

679
00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:09.159
via Wrestling Inc. The reporting as
followed. Kazisko Okadas reportedly open leaving New

680
00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:13.840
Japan Pro Wrestling was the current deal
expires early next year, and the prevailing

681
00:45:13.880 --> 00:45:16.599
belief is that w could be the
leading position to acquire his talents. This

682
00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:21.639
week's Wrestling Observer newsletter, WWE is
long expressed and interest in Okada, but

683
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:24.679
those feelings may not be mutual,
as the Rainmaker considers coming stateside. Okada

684
00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:29.320
had been feeling out the idea of
w with AW full time across his various

685
00:45:29.360 --> 00:45:34.199
appearance this year, but may not
be but there may be financial motivation to

686
00:45:34.239 --> 00:45:37.920
his willingness to consider leaving New Japan
at this point in time. Not only

687
00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:42.199
are his US suitors capable of offering
significant pay raise, but the Japanese yen

688
00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:45.159
is also depreciated against the US dollar, meaning that he'd be leaving a lot

689
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:47.920
of money on the table should he
opt to stay where he is. Many

690
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:51.800
in WW we believe Okadas accomplished all
he can in New Japan, and the

691
00:45:51.800 --> 00:45:54.760
prospect of meetings of fresh challenges can
be appealing. Additionally, o'cata's wife,

692
00:45:54.880 --> 00:46:00.920
Suzuko Mamori, an accomplished actress and
singer, I guess, could play a

693
00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:04.920
major factor in the decision making process, as a move to the United States

694
00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:09.480
would allow her to pursue further opportunities
in those areas. Okada is penciled in

695
00:46:09.559 --> 00:46:14.639
to return to the US that's January, making his return to TNA at these

696
00:46:14.679 --> 00:46:22.840
Snake Eyes taping Doctor Trey interesting update
there. We could be the favorites to

697
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:27.880
land one. Kazitsko o Kata.
Yeah, we talked about this a couple

698
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:32.360
ago. To me, his style
fits in better with WW than maybe AW.

699
00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:36.719
He's a little bit more of I
mean, he's a fantastic wrestler.

700
00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:39.199
I'm not trying to diminish that,
but he's also he understands the value of

701
00:46:39.320 --> 00:46:43.960
entertainment. That's why, you know, over the years his interests have gotten

702
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:50.320
bigger and flashier and more wwes and
maybe a little bit less New Japan style.

703
00:46:51.039 --> 00:46:54.760
Those things factor in. And if
you can wrestle maybe a little bit

704
00:46:55.000 --> 00:47:00.599
lighter in ring style like ww is
and then still be able to to build

705
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:07.559
a brand and help your accomplished actress, singer, wife person, thing that

706
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:12.119
I've never heard of. That Jeff
Peck dismissed quickly as that was read,

707
00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:16.280
Hey, kudos to you. I
do think that you know, he has

708
00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:22.599
accomplished. He's arguably top three greatest
wrestlers in the history of New Japan.

709
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:25.400
So what else is there unless you
take that risk, And it's a little

710
00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:28.599
bit of like what shins k did. Shins Kate accomplished a lot in New

711
00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:31.559
Japan, and he wanted to test
himself out against the you know, the

712
00:47:31.719 --> 00:47:37.760
the rest of the world. And
although sin's Ke's run maybe not what we

713
00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:40.840
all thought it would be or as
great as it's still been a very very

714
00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:47.719
solid run in WWE. So if
I was a kata and I was wanting

715
00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:52.360
to leave, I would pick WWOAWS
because I think it fits my style better

716
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:55.119
than the AW style. Really interesting
stuff right now with Ocana. I never

717
00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:59.280
thought he would leave it at New
Japan. There's a lot of smoke to

718
00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:02.079
this story and a lot of fire
building that it appears he could be coming

719
00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:07.159
stateside in twenty twenty four, which
is again once again going to make this

720
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:12.079
upcoming year really really potentially special for
professional wrestling fans. So we'll keep an

721
00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:15.320
eye on that. Is w a
likelihood for Ocada, We will wait and

722
00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:21.039
see. With that said, let's
close up this week's edition of sr TU

723
00:48:21.119 --> 00:48:23.079
and get a couple of plugs and
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724
00:48:23.079 --> 00:48:28.119
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one for world of dot Trey Franklin
this week? Well, like Jeff said,

731
00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:52.599
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732
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733
00:48:57.920 --> 00:49:00.880
other weird name. But you can
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734
00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:04.840
You can find me on Facebook and
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736
00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:13.360
coming up this Saturday as we get
ready the last show before the return of

737
00:49:13.360 --> 00:49:15.719
the Rocket City Rumble, which is
one of our biggest shows of the year.

738
00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:19.000
Last year, I think we had
four hundred and twenty five people in

739
00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:22.880
attendance, which is incredible for just
a small little show. But be sure

740
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:25.360
to go check them out. And
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741
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:29.719
Those are the two shows I work
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742
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support your look at wrestling because otherwise
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743
00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:36.280
will watch wrestling and try to drop
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744
00:49:36.320 --> 00:49:37.639
with the four an objects. So
there you go. Support all the great

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things that support SRTU and spread the
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746
00:49:43.280 --> 00:49:45.559
Once again, this is the last
regular show for the next three weeks.

747
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:51.719
Sammy is very excited for that the
upcoming holiday programming schedule. Thursday December

748
00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:54.400
twenty first, we look back at
our twenty twenty three both predictions and recap

749
00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:59.199
professional wrestling in twenty twenty three.
In two weeks on the twenty eighth is

750
00:49:59.239 --> 00:50:04.440
our twenty three srt Award Show special. Then in three weeks on Thursday January

751
00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:07.119
fourth, twenty twenty four, the
twenty twenty four wrestling previous show, we'll

752
00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:10.800
give our five bolt predictions and our
wrestling many forty car predictions as well.

753
00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:15.440
And then in between there we'll be
previewing, predicting, recap, reviewing aw

754
00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:20.119
world's end with some bonus shows for
y'all. So keep it locked in here

755
00:50:20.199 --> 00:50:23.679
on the Stone Rail Show each and
every week during the upcoming holiday programming schedule.

756
00:50:23.840 --> 00:50:29.679
So with that said, for doctor
Trey Franklin, for Sammy Franklin,

757
00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:32.679
I'm Jeff Pack. Thank you for
downloading. Until next week. This is

758
00:50:34.039 --> 00:50:34.960
the Star Rowthos Show.