Oba vs. Bron ends in chaos + Punk challenges Sami in Mexico City | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #865 – 9/10/26

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It's still really a big damage to me!

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What now?

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Welcome everybody!

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Welcome to this week's Inistorello Show.

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Episode 865 for September 10th, 2026.

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Welcome to your Sunday night to main event.

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Recap and review edition of Has.

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R2, we're...

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I am one half the show.

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I am Jeff Beck, joined every single week for those of the only Dutch trait Franklin.

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Dr. Trey, there was a lot of times where I had to pick lump in my throat.

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This Wednesday watching AW Dynamite, my friend.

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Oh, okay.

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I was waiting.

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I had to wait for the line to finish there.

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I'm like a big lump in your throat.

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Like where are you going with this?

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I didn't know if...

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I know Aaron Judge just came back this week.

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I don't know where maybe Nerman's that he might get re-injured.

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The Packers are kicking off Sunday.

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I went to every other thing other than AW.

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I was trying to think of every other...

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Were you really worried about how Cody Rhodes felt after getting low blowed?

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A Pharaoh passing away?

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I didn't know where you were going, but at least you said AW Dynamite.

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So then I kind of got your frame of reference.

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No, yes, certainly.

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It was an emotional week for a professional wrestling in more ways than one.

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Yeah, there were some beautiful moments.

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There was some incredibly sad moments.

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I just was reminded about Pharaoh there.

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I mean, anybody Dr. Trey and I, Dr. Trey, just went through this himself.

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We got to find a way to keep dogs around a lot, lot longer.

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That is just my...

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And keep good people around a lot longer.

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That is something that I've learned this week, especially in the World of Professional Wrestling,

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which we will get into here in just a little bit.

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No easier way to segue Dr. Trey, but to get into the start of the show here Sunday nights

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main event, recap and review this past Sunday from the State Farm Arena in Atlanta GA on the

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countdown show you a Dominic Busterated Feeding Joe Hendry in an on title match, Little Yachty

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defeated Barrett Corbin in a survive in advance match, Little Yachty lasted five minutes, earned

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Trick Williams United States Championship match, Trick Williams defeated Barrett Corbin,

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Trick Williams wins the United States Championship, Oba Femi defeated Bronn, Reykjavid disqualification

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after Bronson Marine return and attacked Oba Femi, Jade Cardgill, Meachin and B-Fab defeated

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Charles Flare, Alexa Blissett, Tate of Paxley, and a six-woman tag team match, and Randy Orton

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defeated Cody Rhodes.

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Before we dig really deep into the show, Dr. Trey, some quick thoughts here on the results.

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For me, I thought the Trick Williams Barrett Corbin match.

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I feel like I say this every time now with Trick Williams.

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This was one of the best matches I've seen for him.

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I really enjoyed that match.

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Overall, I enjoyed the show.

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I thought it was a very solid show on a Sunday night for Labor Day weekend, but for me

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that Trick Williams Barrett Corbin match really stood out to me.

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What were some of your thoughts and takeaways before we start breaking this down a little

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bit more?

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Yeah, that match was really good.

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I still think that sometimes people forget how good Baron Corbin is, how good Baron

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Corbin can make his opponents look.

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I think Trick's progressed a lot, but then being in the ring with a guy like Corbin is

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one of the best big man workers I've seen in my 40 years of wrestling fandom.

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It is really good.

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The guy can actually make anybody look like a star.

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I thought overall the show was really, really well done and really, really good.

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There was some things where I'm like, I don't really understand why they went this way

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with the result of said match, but overall, I was really entertained the entire show.

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I'll give them that, but there's a couple things in there that I'm like, I don't really get

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why you went this route with the victor on a couple matches.

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Well, this is going to be interesting now because I think that maybe some of this will

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come up right now.

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So we spent the last few weeks asking whether WWE was rushing Oba Family versus Bronfraker.

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WWE gave us the match, but that didn't really give us an answer.

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Oba won by disqualification after Bronson Reed made his return, attacked Oba and helped

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division leaving him lane.

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I understand why WWE protected both guys, but if you're selling this is a battle for WWE's

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future.

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A DQ in their first match is always going to feel like a T's rather than a conclusion.

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So about the finish, the good news is WWE clearly sees more mileage in this rivalry.

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Neither guy had to take a pin.

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Bronson Reed immediately felt in port again and the vision came out of the weekend looking

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dangerous and I carried over into Monday's RAW.

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The downside is that we waited to finally see Oba and Bronf collide and the first match ended

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with the exact type of non-finish we were worried about.

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So my question for you, Dr. Trey, was the disqualification the right way to protect Oba

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family and Bronfraker or did WWE waste the first meeting by refusing to give us a real finish?

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>> Yeah, I think they played it safe with the DQ finish and you and I talked to, like

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you said, we talked about this.

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If you're going to do the Bronson Reed beat down, then at least give Bronfraker the win.

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You can still do some kind of crappy thing, break or get a win and then they still do the

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beat down spot.

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And then it gets Oba over as being sympathetic.

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Like okay, he can't do everything on his own.

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One guy against five is wipe the obstacle to overcome and then you can still go through

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this now with Oba and Bronf.

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You can have Oba run through the vision to get back to Bronfraker.

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Doing the DQ finish is there's a safe way of protecting everybody involved.

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But I don't think it did any favors for Bronfraker because you have Bronson Reed doing most

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of the squashing of Oba Femi, not Bronfraker.

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So I don't think it made Bronson look great, but I don't think it did any favors for Bronfraker

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in having a DQ victory here, like our DQ loss.

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I think you give Braker the win and then let Oba come back later on.

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>> WWE does this thing nowadays where they're just super protective of a lot of wrestlers

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where I feel like they become, and this is just wrestling as whole, it becomes very,

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very, very predictable.

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And I think it's a more WWE than it is in AW because I don't think AW has anyone that they've

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built like a Roman reigns at Oba Femi, a Bronfraker.

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They don't have that dominant monster like WWE does.

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And that is not necessarily a good thing for professional wrestling and this is what I was

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concerned about.

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I wouldn't call it a throwaway show for Sunday nights main event, but it wasn't certainly

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a show that I think would have the magnitude to have this first.

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The future is now type match between these two guys because I do feel like they are part

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of the future of WWE and can play a very big part of the future of WWE.

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The opposite side of it though, Dr. Trey, is despite this match, this first time match,

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future on the line being sacrificed.

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I do feel like Bronson Reed coming back, he just got elevated.

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The vision has been, let's just say what it is, it's, they've been awful for a while now

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because of the amount of injuries.

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I mean, there was a period of time where it was just basically Austin Theory and that is

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scary.

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That is not a good thing when it's just him.

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I mean Logan Paul is still here.

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Bronson was out.

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Bronfraker was out.

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I mean, I remember reading stuff that there was rumblings at the vision was going to be

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disbanded because of all of it, which we've seen WWE do plenty of times with staples that

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should have stuck around with one another, but they stuck it through and they reestablished

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themselves and reignited themselves as a powerful force on Monday night Raw, at least in the short

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term.

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That angle that carried over on Monday night where they laid out Oba brought, so when Bronson

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Reed puts his foot on Oba Femi and Oba like swat it away, I'm like, I wonder if that was

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scripted or not or if that's, you know, they did that purposely.

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And then to come to find out on Twitter today, I believe Russell votes had reported that

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that was not scripted and people were upset about it.

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I think there were more upset with Oba than they were Bronson Reed.

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But nonetheless, I mean, the vision returned and I think if there's one shining light that

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comes out of this, I think an Oba versus vision feud has me excited, but I don't want it to

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be like a John Cena versus Nexus feud.

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Yeah, I mean, but this is, I mean, this is the, I mean, we've talked about triple H learn

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from Dusty and Vince, right?

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And Dusty, you know, being around the horseman and then, you know, his time in WC with the

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NWO, that's how you build super over baby faces.

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You have a strong heel faction.

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One baby face tries to run up against the entire faction and that's how that guy gets over

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whether it was Dusty and the horseman, Rugg and Ronnie Garvin and the horseman, you know,

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Nikita Kohloff in his time against the horse, like that, that's how WCW build baby faces

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or NWA did.

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And then with the NWO, whether it was Goldberg, Sting, Diamond Dallas page, when they split

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the NWO in Nashwood up against NW O Hollywood, that's how you get your baby faces over is have

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that big giant obstacle in their way.

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But you have to make it look realistic.

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It's not like you mentioned Cena and the Nexus were seen in what basically run through the

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entire Nexus and one, Vince would be like, hey, Russell, four guys in the Nexus to get

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to, you know, bear it tonight and then Cena would crush everybody.

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Like you have to do it in stages to kind of build that up to build to that climactic finish

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and then cycle up the next guy.

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My only worry with this is right now is Oba in the vision for me has me excited like you

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said because I'm like, oh, Oba and Braun again, Oba and Bronson, I mean, Oba and Logan

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Paul will be fun if all comes back healthy at some point in time for this rivalry as well.

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But right now when you look at it, there's like a pecking order of stables on Monday night

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raw where you have the bloodline and 946, is that the correct name?

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Yes.

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We'll certainly talk about 946 here.

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Yeah, but you have this, like there's other heel factions and the vision kind of slots

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in a little bit lower on the on the card right now.

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And then now you have Oba working against the third strongest faction and that's not

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and I guess judgment day is fourth right now because there's only two guys.

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But it's just like, wow, okay, like you would kind of want Oba up there with the Roman blood

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line thing maybe at some point.

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But you know, it's interesting because it is like the younger generation against the younger

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generation in that feud.

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So like I'm excited for, but once again, to me, if you look at that match, you go, okay,

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so there's Oba and Braun, yeah, Oba and Braun in the first match, Cody and Randy in the

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main event match, but Cody takes a pinfall, but Oba can't, like that doesn't, to me, I'm

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like that doesn't make a lot of sense.

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Like you could have had Oba take the pinfall, still be protected because he lost to basically

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four people.

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And then it gives Braun Breaker a little bit of credibility being, you know, really only

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the second person to pin Oba since he came to the main roster and then, you know, he's

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reestablished.

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Do you think Lesnar was the guy that made Oba Femi and then this feud and storyline is

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what elevates Oba Femi heading into WrestleMania season?

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Here's my thing.

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I look at it like right now, like, and that's, we talked about last week, Braun Breaker and

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not so much in a slump, but he wasn't at the same level he was in January, right?

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I don't know how Oba beating up, you know, a, a finally recovered vision elevates him

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because they've, they've been devalued so much over the last four months that I just don't

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see where, like in my head, I'm like, if Oba beats Austin Therid, is that do anything

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for him?

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If Oba beats Logan Paul, all right, that's cool.

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If Oba beats Bronson Reed who's just been out for six months, does that, I don't think

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anything one on one does any for the interesting dynamic is who was Paul Hamin talking to?

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And if that's somebody who's bigger on the ladder than anybody in the vision currently,

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then that could help elevate Oba heading into Royal Rumble season.

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But if it's not, I don't see how this feud elevates him prior to the rumble.

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Yeah, that's, that's what I've been wondering is like, because the way you look at it where

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it's four on one right now, yeah, four on one, that this would, I mean, so it's, Oba just

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got to either obliterate them or is Paul Hamin going to reach out to somebody to help aid

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Oba Femme?

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And then who the hell is that?

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I mean, there's nobody on the current roster.

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Lesnar is retired with a bring Lesnar out of retirement to like work side by side with

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the Oba for a period of time. That doesn't make sense. I think it's, I think it's just, I

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don't know, I don't know if the phone call leads to anything quite honestly. It could have

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just been something that he just goes off camera to not answer the question. I just feel

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like this is going to be Oba versus vision on his own, honestly. I don't think that anybody

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comes sides with him.

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You still have Seth in the profits you have been seen on TV since Seth lost a room in

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the profits haven't been around in like six weeks.

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I think if they went right back to Seth and the vision, that would be weird because they,

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I thought they ended that feud basically.

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Well, they ended maybe Seth and Braun Breaker, but once again, there still Seth has some beef

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with Braun's and Reed too. So it is like, I don't know, like it's just, you're right. Like

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there, it's, it's, who's a big enough star to bring into this to help elevate Oba? And

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Brock has retired and apparently shaved his head. I don't know if he saw the picture of that.

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Yeah, there's a picture of him at a, as some, something around in Canada and him and

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Sable took a picture with a fan of Lesnar and shaved his head completely bald. I just don't

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know who you plug in there that hasn't been seen on TV. No, wow, that helps elevate this

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because we are once again, we are headed in survivor series. And if Logan Paul, who

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get cleared by survivor series, you could have four on four with Oba Seth and the profits

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against the vision. And then you have the other groups like in six man or singles or whatever.

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So there, that was, you know, something else I thought I was like, oh, there is four people

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in the vision. If everybody gets medically cleared in time, but if not, you know, it's,

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it's just, I just don't know who that storyline with Paul Hameon goes into that helps Oba.

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And even Oba one on one, I guess the other three guys that aren't injured right now, I don't

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think Oba beating those guys one on one really helps elevate Oba into that main event level

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because I right now it's, he has the wins over Brock. He now has a win over Braun Breaker.

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But, you know, how do you get him into the mix when you have an LA night in Roman Reigns

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kind of running the top of the card right now?

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If it's the photo that I found out straight, that is very clearly AI. Is this daughter of

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him? The one, I don't know if that was his daughter because his daughter is engaged now to a former,

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I don't know. I don't know. I also felt one of him just in a ball then with a mustache with

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his son. Oh my God. Yeah, I'm in. Anyway, yeah, rabbit hole. And we can't do a rabbit hole

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in the podcast. It's very bad for listening. So yeah, lots of discussion here. Oba family

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Braun Breaker, the vision. We'll keep an eye on that few days we move forward. Feel free

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to share your thoughts over at patreon.com/srtupodcast. The other big news from Sunday nights main event

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on trade is Randy Orton got Cody Rhodes. Randy didn't beat Cody because he was a better

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wrestler. He beat him because Cody hesitated. Cody had a chance upon Randy. Randy begged

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him to do it. Cody pause and Orton immediately went low and hit the RKO. That is such a Randy

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Orton finish. Cody tried to play the Viper's game and learned that Randy will always go

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one step further. So my question for you did Randy Orton's win make the Cody rivalry

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more interesting than a clean Cody victory would have? Well, yeah, because now they're kind

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of one on one and one. You know, Cody had had the win in WrestleMania. Now Randy gets

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a win back and it's a now they got to have the and then you're you know, there's always

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the is Cody going to turn heel T's which this may end up in the will there ever be a

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Johnson and a heel turn realm for us like they're going to keep teasing it and then just

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like never pull the trigger on it. To me, it does make it more interesting because at some

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point Cody's going to have to go to a darker place than his character currently has gone

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to finally put away Randy Orton. So it's just a question of like how what lines will

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they have Cody cross to get the way we've seen Cody cheat to win in previous matches

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where you and I have said they went like, whoa, that's that's not like a you know, clean

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cut baby face type move, but they circle back to him being super clean cut baby face and

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then we get these weird teases and then it goes back is like, all right, if Cody's going

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to defeat Randy Orton, he's going to have to go to a place that he doesn't want to go to.

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Will they actually pull the trigger on that? So it does to me make it a little more interesting

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how this all fleshes out in the end. Yeah, it's it's exciting to see. I think it's a good

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feud. I like that Cody is out of the title picture. I don't like Randy being out of the title

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picture because I would like to see him get a run with it, but makes sense here and you

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just can't have Cody dominating like they got it. They need to take this time right now,

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keep him out of the title picture, which we've discussed and just basically almost reestablish

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him in a way so that he may get another run. Let's say WrestleMania next year post-Russell

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WrestleMania, Summer of 2027 because sometimes this is a good thing for a big time baby faces

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to not be in the title picture. And I think that will help serve Cody because it was getting

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dangerously close. I feel like to John Cena levels. Speaking of that WWE championship

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doctor, Trey that Cody Rhodes so desperately wants to regain, CM Punk is the holder of that

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belt and he has given Sami Zayn the match he wanted, Sami Zayn in Mexico City. So should

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Sami actually win in Mexico City on Friday nights back down last week, we asked what WWE

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was actually building toward with CM Punk, Sami Zayn and Kevin Owens. Now we know the

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next step. Punk survived the returning Johnny Gargano on SmackDown despite Sami once again

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interviewing, interfering in the WWE Championship picture. Sami takes out Kevin Owens, Gunther

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and Finn Balor, last CM Punk with the title and still couldn't stop Punk from retaining.

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So Punk finally did the simplest thing possible. He challenged Sami to a WWE Championship match

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tomorrow night in Mexico City. So why does this work? Sami has spent weeks acting like

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Punk stole something that belonged to him. Now Punk is basically telling him, if you think

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the title is yours, come and take it. And Mexico City gives WWE a crowd where Sami should

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feel like a legitimate threat rather than just another challenger. So my question for you

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Dr. Trey is should Sami Zayn actually beat CM Punk for the WWE Championship in Mexico City

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on SmackDown?

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So selfishly, I'll say no because why? I want a championship scramble match.

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Brian Kendrick, each are hard out.

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>> Yes, because I want everybody to have a chance to hold the belt at least for two minutes.

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I mean, we talked about this. You know, there's, you have, you know, Kevin Owens, Gunther,

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Finn Balor, Sami Zayn. Maybe those guys individually don't match up to the level of the CM Punk

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character in the eyes of the fans, but you throw all four of those guys. And maybe even Johnny

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Gargano back into the mix. You got five guys. CM Punk makes six. Like to me, if you do want

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to make a title change and take the belt off of Punk and have him chase again, this is a

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great opportunity to do it because once again, Punk wouldn't have to take the loss. You know,

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whatever it is.

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>> I, Sami is beloved in every country except the United States. So actually, to me, I think

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it almost feels like a hometown match tomorrow night. In Mexico City, I think the cry

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will actually be behind Sammy more than Punk. But, you know, to me, I'm a Kevin Owens guy

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first and then Sammy is second. So you didn't put the belt on Owens. So don't put the belt

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back on Sammy.

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>> So if Punk retains to Sammy's story, stay centered on Punk or does Kevin Owens become

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the real destination?

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>> I still think it centers on Punk. We talked about it last one. To me, the dream match is Punk

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Owens and Sammy. Like I want to see the triple threat. I want to see all of it. And so I

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think Owens gets involved Friday night and cost Sammy the match, just like Sammy cost

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him the match, you know, a couple weeks ago. So I think that's where the road is leading

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to. And then meanwhile, you saw a little bit of the baller, Gunther's stuff last week.

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So I think you could have baller and Gunther go at it and then leave Sammy, Kevin and Punk

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to their own devices there.

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>> Yeah, it's an interesting issue that's going on in SmackDown. Do you feel like, and we're

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going to get into some of the 946 Uso stuff here. So maybe I should hold off on this. You

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know what? I'm going to pause the question because I do have a question here about WWE

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creative because I'm enjoying what I'm seeing. And it's on par with the stuff that I've seen

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in AEW this year. So but we'll pause on that. So let's go over to the red brand, Dr.

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Terbi, because you've got the 946 6 setting the Uso's car on fire. Weird way to end raw. I

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got to be honest with you, but this looks like this is the new bloodline war for for 2026.

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A few weeks ago, I was wondering whether WWE was adding too many people around the bloodline

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story. This week the 946 made sure that they didn't feel like just another group standing

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around in the storyline. The Uso's and Jacob Fattu called them out on raw. Key's Nima and

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Lucian Price answered by setting the Uso's car on fire, which by the way, Wade Barrick says

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like Lucian Price. It's very odd. Lucian Price. That's a pretty clear escalation. So why

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am I interested as a fan? The bloodline saga has been running for years, so any new opponent

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has to feel different. The 946 attacking people in parking lots and out torching a car at least

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gives them an identity being beyond being another faction that wants to fight. And then you've

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got Jacob Fattu. He's involved. This can move the story forward without it immediately

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going back to Roman Reigns controlling every piece of it. You could let Jacob Fattu be almost

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like the center while Reigns is in and out off of television. So Dr. Trey, I ask you this.

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Has the 946 made the bloodline story feel fresh again? Or are we still adding too many moving

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parts to a saga that already has a huge cast?

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One of my favorite things I read this week was from Bully Ray. That was a very Vince

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big man type thing to do to have to be down for these. Why does anybody care about the Usos

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car? He's got a point there. You just smashed up. It's basically you just smashed up the

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rich guy's car. It's almost a baby face thing to do it in a way. But it's interesting. I can't

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think of a good comparison on my head, but it's interesting. It's kind of like, hey, here's

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the established faction. Here's this new faction. So anything new and different is fun.

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And I'm interesting. And the Royce keys smile to snarl thing he's doing. I haven't figured

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if I dig better not yet. But it does feel very, very gang warfare like mentality, which goes

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back to when you and I were really a WWE when you had DOA and Loose Burr week was and all

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those factions back then. It's like that was really, really cool time because it felt not real,

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but it felt maybe the most realistic version of what would happen in pro wrestling in reality.

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Like, oh, these guys are all friends. Hey, this is my collect. This is your collect. Let's

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go at it. My only issue with this is you had maybe one of the hottest organic baby face

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things going with Solosiko and because of this involvement of 946, it feels like that's

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being tamped down. And I was really enjoying the solo stuff and kind of wanted to see more

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of it. So what do you do with solo when it looks like you're going LA night Roman Reigns?

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Where does solos slot into all of this? So it's an interesting dynamic because there's

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still more questions than there are answers, which is fun. But it does kind of make me feel

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like, okay, don't I know you're you're almost sacrificing the solo organic push to really

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get 946 over as a heel faction? Is it surprising that 946 is being presented as heels?

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No, because I still think even though like I know OTM like in NST, they were kind of baby

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faceors in those guys do look like, I hate to say this sounds bad, but they do kind of

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like they can be street thugs like in a gang. You know, they do look like they look the

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part of being heels. I know they have a really outgoing personality side and really fun. And

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at some point, hey, all these guys can be a super baby face group. But it's interesting

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that you had the Usos playing heels what three weeks ago with the solo thing. And now this

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other fact is like they're trying to they're being like, hey, we're more heel than you're

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heel. You know, it's a weird dynamic that like we wanted to hear for Jacob, but it was

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Jimmy and Jay that were basically bullying solo. But then Roy shows up with these two other

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guys and now we're supposed to feel bad for the Usos like this is where like I brought

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up this is where shades of gray can really make fans lose interest in storyline because

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like right now like who do you cheer for then this like are you just here for Jacob? Like

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if a new fan turns us on like they're going to go okay, we like the Usos, but then somebody

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goes yeah, but they treated their little brother like crap like three weeks ago. You know,

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it's like it's it's weird in a sense of like you're you're trying to show depth of character,

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but maybe you're showing too much depth of character at times. So you know me right we get

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to this time of year, I always mention it. I'm thinking war games and I think this is the

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direction of war games. Do you disagree with that at all? So are we doing three on three

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war games? No, no, no, this is how we got to build it out. So do you think? Because what

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storyline do you think right now has the best chance for the men's war games match?

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Yeah, it's it's bloodline and nine four six. Yeah. So during all this you've got three on

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three right that you're pointing out right now. And in my mind, I would have figured with

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nine four six debut that they would have been baby faces and solo and LA night because

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they just tagged at summer slam would be the other two on their side. You had five. You

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had Roman on that side. Now you've got four. There's been some rumbling that they're going

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to call up. Zillafatu a little bit quicker. Let's say Zillafatu comes up and now it's

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Zillafatu, Jacob Fattu, both usos Roman Reigns versus nine four six, Lucian Price, Bronco

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Nima, Royce Keys, Solosikoa and LA night. Is that a likely destination for the war games

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match or not? Because I don't think it is right now. I don't know how we get there.

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No, yeah, because you still have. So like, how do you make L.E. you would have to come up

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with something to kite because you got to remember nine four six beat down solo and LA

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night when they debuted. So how does LA like the enemy of my enemy is my friend? Like I try

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to figure out how they get to that is and we've seen them do that before. It's like, oh,

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it's just like a knee jerk book of thing. Like, okay, we're cool for this week, but after

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this war games thing, we're going to fight it out. To me, I would almost look at go, hey,

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could you possibly do where Jacob turns against a bloodline and sides with Royce and

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nine four six and then you get those four against LA night solosiko and the Usos. Like, could

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you go that route? Say that one more time. I'm trying to follow you on that. So, so Jacob,

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like let's say we do they have a six man tag coming up as Jacob and the Usos against nine

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four six. Yeah. Jacob turns on the Usos to become the front guy, like really the leader

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of nine four six. Yep. And then in defense, so the Usos have to get solo at LA night on their

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side for war games and you do the Usos LA night and solo against nine four six and Jacob.

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Interesting. Because I, all right. So we're not going to put Roman in this match at all. No,

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because I really don't think we've been trying to do four on four and Romans usually only

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if they need ticket sales. But look at the death. Look at the destination right now. I'm

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on the bank. I think we're getting an LA night versus Roman. Once Penta is gone, I think this

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is LA night versus Roman. So how does LA night all of a sudden start tagging with the bloodline?

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Um, you know, six weeks later. It's, it's a, it's a 10 with lab right now. Yeah. And that's

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where I was like, well, how do you get LA night to LA night and solo to sit there and put

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outside that beat down that nine four six gave them to then go against the entire bloodline?

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You know, there's still like any direction you go, you're going to have to have that whole like,

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hey, by the way, forget that happened a few weeks ago. Maybe we live in out of three on three

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versus three versus three versus three war games match. Yeah. And that's, and that's what

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I thought was like, Hey, let's just, we've never done a triple threat war games match.

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If you want to do something new and that's been the conversation that I've heard from online

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is like, there are people are starting to get sick of war games, which I don't know how

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you can ever take that. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but if you want to freshen it up,

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you do three on three on three, you know, and you get nine guys involved and you do Roman

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in the Usos versus maybe Jacob, solo and LA night and nine four six. I think, I think you

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sold me on a doctor. Try I think you sold me on. I think you do three on three versus three

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versus three versus three. I don't know who you add into solo and LA night team yet. But what

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does that matter? Like Jacob gets mad. Jacob gets upset because Roman says he wants to do it

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with his. Oh, I feel you now. Okay, I got you. I get you. And then Jacob just has to do it.

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I want to do is Jacob solo and LA night versus the Usos and Roman versus nine four six.

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Because I think the Jacob turn is coming a lot sooner. I don't think we're getting Roman

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versus Jacob that WrestleMania. And that's what you would typically think. I mean, this

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is to me, everything's being set up for Roman versus Oba right now. WrestleMania. Yeah.

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Another torch passing match. All right. Some good stuff there. I always think about war games.

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Once summer slam passes, I'm like, where are we going with the war games? Because you

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could start seeing the writing on the wall. And I think you're seeing it right now at least

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on the raw brand, the women's side, minor league indications are whatever the Charlotte Alexa

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Jade Cargill stuff is is what leads in that direction. And you may even throw like Chelsea

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Green Tiffany Stratton in there as well. But that's for another discussion for another day.

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We got plenty of time before war games. Lastly, Dr. Trace switching gears to AEW this past

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Wednesday night. So first thing here, terrible news over the weekend, where the butcher Andy

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Williams passed away at 47 years old or 48 years old, excuse me. During a match, he collapsed.

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CPR was administered. Transport of the hospital show ended. And he unfortunately passed away.

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I always enjoyed the butcher. And they were, you know, he was like a like a job or towards

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the end of the AEW side because a blade was out with a really, really bad back injury.

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But I really enjoyed that tag team and a brought back really good memories of when AEW first

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started. I loved his look. He was such a throwback character to me. Loved how he was a musician,

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like a legit musician on the side and decided he wanted to take up wrestling from what you

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read. Just like always, it's terrible. Excalibur on AEW dynamite this past Wednesday had some

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beautiful words. If you've not heard his words on Andy Williams, the butcher I would highly

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recommend it. But I would be remiss Dr. Trace. We don't at least share our thoughts around

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the just unfortunately and terribly sad untimely passing of Andy Williams, the butcher.

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Yeah, just absolutely sucked, especially, you know, on the heels of, you know, the AEW's

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great show for Rebel. To hear that news was just completely just, you know, catches you off

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guard and, you know, like legit musicians, like if you're a rock music fan, go listen to

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every time I die. It's one of the better modern rock bands of this timeline. You know,

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and then you get just from every indication he is one of these, I talked to Adam Priest

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this weekend, Adam for those, you know, those Rock a City guy. I'm actually a senior watching

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LA or watching George Kittle. I remember promoting the George Kittle brand when they came

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to Rock a City and they did a commercial for George Kittle's clothing line and he wrestled

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one of the guys he wrestled was Adam Priest in that match. Priest is one of those guys always

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tells the cuts of Stray and he was like, Andy was one of the nicest guys when he got

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to first start really being around the AEW locker room and the AEW guys that, you know, Andy

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was actually going to cut him and just literally tell him like, you know, like advice, questions,

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anything like that. That was kind of one of those guys you would go to. So just Harbor,

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he did, he had one of those really great looks like that mustache. Like I always kind of

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way, like you could put him in a suit with a monocle and he could look like, you know, just

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like an evil butler. But then, you know, the butcher gimmick was so good and the butcher

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in play was one of my favorite early tag teams that I didn't really know anything about

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when AEW launched and, you know, it's just, it just sucks across all of, I mean, the guy is

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actually a year and a half younger than me. And so it also puts it in perspective, like,

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you know, don't take anything for granted because you just don't know how long stuff runs.

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But just absolutely crushing news to hear of a guy like that, you know, loses life and

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just get his, get everything extinguished far, far too young.

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They will be paying tribute to him on this Saturday's edition of Collision, which will

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be certainly a must watch. Obviously, the other news there as you brought up Dr. Trey was,

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the show was dedicated to Rebel, Tane and Brooks, or also known as Reba, the show title, Rebel

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Heart. And, you know, she's battling ALS right now. She's in her early 40s, I believe. She's

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been in professional wrestling at the last 10 years. Remember her in impact wrestling with

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the Monastery with crazy Steve was in there. Yeah. And I think not, there was one of the guys

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from the British group as well. And Mike Knox from WWE days was in there. And it was the

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weighting room moment was really cool and a nice throwback to those good old days of AW.

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And then when she comes out with the glove, I mean, but break or cannot hold it in. I mean,

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you just can tell how emotional she is and check and like holding it in. And then when they

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ride out together, I mean, what an amazing emotional moment. There's not many beautiful

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moments in professional wrestling by any means. But I figured I thought that that was one

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of the more beautiful moments that I've seen in such a warrior and somebody who is, if

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you watched her video, wants to carry the torch for ALS research. I mean, God bless her

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man. I mean, just awful diagnosis, awful cards that are dealt, but she's making the most

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out of a really bad situation. And just some beautiful moments as pass ones end out of

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my. Have you seen some of her videos from the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge coming back up?

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Yeah. The killer cross Scarlet, Scarlet Boudreau one was great. My friend Jeremiah Plunkett

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did one for, you know, NWA him and Rebel. They have been friends for 15 years. His Rebel

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first got into wrestling. I got to meet her. I only got to meet her once. And that was

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at a show in Tennessee. And she's just a sweetheart of a person. But yeah, just a really,

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really emotional show. And then my question was, was it always called the waiting room?

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It was, yeah. Because I swear, like I thought was called something else because when Dr.

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Tray Franklin had his own talk show, he called it the waiting room. So, but I had a different

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version. I actually made people come to the ring and then my wife and my wife would actually

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make them would hand them magazines and make them sit there and wait for me to actually

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come out to interview them. So I actually legitimately made it a waiting room. So yeah, it

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was just really, really beautiful thing. AEW, say what you and I have sat here and loved

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on AEW and we have trashed AEW. There may be no better company when it comes to like special

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shows or tribute shows than what AEW does. I totally agree. I mean, those guys, it's literally

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like you feel the love. And once again, like you talk about like Rebecca getting choked

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up, like they embrace that with AEW when they come to those kind of shows, like those

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guys just go above and beyond for folks. So I can't say enough good things about that show

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and about what AEW's been doing for helping out with Rebel and everything else they're doing.

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Like just really, really good work that they're doing right now to help her out.

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Yeah, God bless her all the best and amazing that she wants to be the face of ALS Kyrs and

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just all the strength and power to her during this time. Switching to what took place on

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Dynamite this past Wednesday, Dr. Trey to move the AW world championship storyline forward.

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Will Osprey comes out and says that he chose Will John Moxley. It's been quite the reign

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for Will Osprey's world championship run so far and it's going in a way that I really like.

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Osprey isn't waiting for someone to challenge him. He revealed that he personally asked for

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John Moxley at all out because Moxley is the only person to pin him this year. Osprey's

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in framing this as a revenge thing. He's framing it as the first test of whether he is really

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the new ace of AEW. So why does this matter right now? If AEW wants this to be Will Osprey's

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heir of beating Kenny Omega Wembley can't be the peak of the story. He needs a championship

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reign that feels important immediately. And Moxley is probably the safest possible opponent

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if you want Osprey's first major defense to feel dangerous from the moment it's announced.

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So Dr. Trash, you this is John Moxley the right first major challenger for Osprey's AW world

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championship reign.

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Yeah, I absolutely think so. I mean, for the better part of five years has been John Moxley's

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company. He's been the safety net. Anytime something goes bad, we can pull the John Moxley

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card and put them on top of the roster and it legitimizes everything that they're doing.

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So it is the safest pick to really establish that we're walking into the Will Osprey.

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He's the best air of AEW. So it makes it to the sense. It is interesting though that they

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also have deviated from the Andrade angle of this as well and maybe saving it for down

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the road or whatever. But you know, for Osprey to come out and say like he wants Moxley

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plus it maybe wraps up that whole death writer storyline with them as well and gives that

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a little bit of finality because that's one thing AEW does maybe doesn't do as good as

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AEW is like they still leave strings of a story lingering at times and maybe this is how

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we get the finality of what you know, the Osprey death writer's angle really, you know, kind

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of comes to a head. So that's why I was going to ask you here kind of quasi next Dr. Trey

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does Osprey need to beat Moxley decisively at all out to establish that AW really has entered

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his era. Yeah, I mean, and like in a much more to say, like I mean, as long as he gets

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a pinfall victory because I don't think you know, Osprey's not the kind of cheat, you know,

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this version of Osprey's not going to cheat to win. So he needs a pinfall victory or job

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mostly because once again, Moxley I think has only been pinned once this year himself or

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twice maybe at most. So it is two of the top guys going head to head. So Osprey really

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needs kind of that clean victory over here to really establish his era of AEW. Yeah,

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that's going to be a really fun match at all out. And I loved how they catapulted that ankle

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on Wednesday night. Dr. Trey, I forgot my own question. I was going to ask you. We were

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talking about the blue and the red band brands. What do you feel? How do you feel right now

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about WWE creative right now? Because I do like the direction things are going. And I've

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been given them props over the last several weeks. But how do you feel about how things

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are going for the creative team? I would say majority pretty good. The majority of the stuff

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on both brands I think is really good. Like I mean, like I said earlier, I don't like when

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things like, okay, so the bloodline just bullied solo three weeks ago. But then 946 shows

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up so we should feel bad for the Usos now. Like I don't stuff like that. I leave questions

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on. But when you look at Smackdown, you got Cody and Randy. But then you have the heavyweight

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title picture. Like that's really good. You still have the stuff with, you know, trick

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and Corbin and Yachty and Carmelo and anybody else you want to throw the US title picture.

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That seems good. The Women's Division with the tag teams and the six women things and,

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you know, trying to get to Charlotte and Jade at some point. I feel good about that. The

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live Stephanie Becky Lynch dynamic on RAW is good. You know, the Chad Gable stuff is good.

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And to like I feel good about probably 85% of the storylines running in WWE. There is just

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the little bit of stuff that annoys me. But overall, it's like I can't outside of that 946

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Usos, LA and I solo Roman area. I'd and that might be cleared up when you get to get

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to survivor series. But that's the only area to show where I'm like, I don't know what they're

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doing there. But everything else I kind of have directions on at least.

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00:42:24,460 --> 00:42:28,580
Yeah, it's been fun as of late and I really like the direction that both the companies are

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going in right now as we head into the fall and then sort of ramp things up before you know

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in the winter time and to rest of any season. I think it's been really, really good stuff lately

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from both WWE and AEW and that makes things exciting for us wrestling fans. I feel like we're

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talking more about storylines and the way things are going with both companies more often

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than just like new stories to kind of pass the time by. It's been more about the stories

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that are being built in both WWE and AEW right now.

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With that said, let's close up shop on this week's edition of SRTU. So Dr. Shrek, you go

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watch the San Francisco 49ers. I got a notification that Christian McCaffrey was in the red zone who's

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on my fantasy team. So let's get a couple plugs out of the way. You can download the show

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at patreon.com/srtupodcast and the store will show feed on apples, pot if I wherever you

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download this podcast. Don't forget to rate, review and subscribe. You can follow us individually

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don't forget the fall show on X at SRTU Podcast. With that being said, what is going on

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on the wonderful world of Dr. Franklin this week?

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Well like Jeff said, you can follow me on X at the Dr. Trey. You can find me on Instagram

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and Facebook. Just look up Dr. Trey Franklin. When you're on Facebook, you can check out

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Rocketsy Championship Wrestling. We just had a big show this past Saturday breaking

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news that we announced at our show last Saturday. Rocketsy is going to go to one show a month

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for the next few months as football season in Alabama kind of hurts everybody's crowds

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on Saturday's nights. So we're going to do one show a month. So our next show is October

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5th. Yeah, October 5th will be our next Rocketsy show. But if you're feeling lonely and want

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to check out the past episodes of Rocketsy, you can go to youtube.com/rocketsychabit.

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Wrestling. Go check out all the past episodes. But also get out there and check out your

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out or find that star that you've always wanted to follow that hasn't been on big TV in

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a little while. Hey, get out there and check out your local independent wrestling shows.

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So there you go. Support all the great things that support the Still Real Thos show. And

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And that being said, until next week for Dr. Tre Franklin, I am Jeff Pack. Have a great

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