One More Run for Orton? Backlash Reactions & Sabu Tribute | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #796 – 05/15/25

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It's still real to me, damn it!

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What up, you!

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Welcome, everybody!

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Welcome to this week's "A Distanis to a Real-Best Show."

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Episode of our 7 or 96 for May 15, 2025,

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this is WWE Backlash Recap and Review Edition of SRTU.

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I am one after the show. I am Jeff Packen joined every single week for my close little

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doctorate, Franklin, Dr. Trey. Happy birthday, my friend.

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Aw, you remember. Thank you. I feel awful because I had a miss last week's show

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because of family stuff, and then I was kind of down on myself.

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Jeff, I kid you not. Over 300 people wish me a happy birthday on Facebook.

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And I was like, "Wow, you like me. You really like me."

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Now that was 300 out of like 4,500 friends, so it wasn't a huge number, but to have people

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reach out, wish me a happy birthday. I just went back because I've been so busy.

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I haven't got chance to go through and personally respond to everybody yet, because I think

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that might take at least an hour or an hour and a half.

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Yeah, I haven't had that much time yet, but I really appreciate it. I really appreciate

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everybody reaching out. You guys make an old man feel pretty warm and fuzzy on the inside.

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What's funny is before the show, I was going to lead in with Happy Birthday and another year

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again, old. And literally, as we were getting ready to record, Dr. Trey is telling me how

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old everybody feels around me. I'm like, "Okay, so he's taking the wind out of my

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sales where it's like, "Did you wake up and did your back give out my friend?"

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It was another birthday. And he's like, "Tell me about a friend of his who woke up with

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arthritis, percidus." Because it's so true. I mean, once you hit a certain age, I hate

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to sound old, but I think for me, when I would play sports, I would still think I was like

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in my teens or my 20s on the way that I could move.

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I played softball. I've even played softball since we've had a son in the adult leagues and

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slow pitch, beer leagues, love doing all that stuff. And I feel good after the game, it was

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the next day, Dr. Trey, where I'd be like, "I can't. My quadriceps are burning. My back is

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killing. My shoulder feels like it needs surgery. And I'm pretty sure I need to go to orthopedic

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to get Tommy John." That happened to me probably starting 35 years old, no kidding at all.

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Yeah, like it's, I mean, I've been, I've been now in the wrestling business close to 11

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years. In 11 years, 11 years ago, I was taking bumps on concrete off the apron, off

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raps. Like I very seldom ever bumped in an actual wrestling ring. It was always somewhere

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else. And I had to wake up the next day and I'd be fine. And now it's like, "Oh, we just

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had wrestling con, wrestling con eight about two weeks ago." And literally like the next day

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I'm like, "Damn, my back hurts, my knees hurt, my voice is blown out like just nothing

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felt good the next day." And it took me almost like an extra six, eight hours to recover

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after sleeping it off to get going. But yeah, it's, it's, I think part of it is also the

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fact that like, and you and I have talked about this several times as you've gotten older

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because you're kind of trying to play catch up with me a little bit here on age. And it's

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just that the older you get, the faster the day goes by. And it just never feels like your

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body is actually given enough time to rest and recover, which is probably why the older we

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get until you get to like retirement age. You just feel just worn down, beat up, and

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tired every day. Also, I've been getting this feeling since I became a parent, Dr. Troy,

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I just feel like I'm playing constant catch up to anything. Yes, you're never ahead. No,

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like I mean, you have one. I have three. Now, great, a two of them are basically self-sufficient.

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But yeah, when you're costly, changing diapers, doing all the stuff of the baby that eats

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up a large part of your day, then you also have work and then you also have married life,

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which never set, like never combined married life and parenthood. Those are two separate

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things I had to learn the hard way. But like you just, there's just never enough time in the

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day to accomplish everything. So the next day, you're already starting off your list like

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three hours behind. And then next thing you know is like you're, you're going to think of

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vacation and you realize that one of your vacation days has turned into a work day to catch

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up on the 20 hours you're behind on, on other stuff because of parenthood and and pet hood.

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Don't discount pet hood as well. No, that is definitely something that plays a major role

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as well with the pets. So yeah, it's just when we first started doing the show, now 15 years

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ago. So I would have been 23, 24. We'll read you with that one.

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That was 15. 33? Yeah, so here we are, my friend. I'm entering 39 this year and I'm

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dreading to do 40. My daughter was slightly older than Luke when we started the show and she's

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graduating high school in two weeks. Yeah, so there we go folks. My son is almost 11 months

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old. So yeah, just this became two young guys talking about professional wrestling and now

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it's just two old guys yelling at clouds and professional wrestling. So welcome. What are

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the names of the muppets that sat in the balcony and just yelled at the cast? God, yeah,

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man, I know those names too. I do too. And I blanked on it because I started picturing Paul

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Hamon for a second. Stattler and Walter. Yes, we start off being the young guys now returning

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to Stattler and Walter. Like really quickly. Ah, here we are back in my day. That's how

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I always feel like when we like reference the attitude error as like the glory days and it

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was. I mean, that's legitimate. I mean, that was the glory days for me a professional

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wrestling. Like if Bruce Bingstein's glory days is playing, I'm like thinking of and I'm

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thinking about wrestling. Like that's the era is that generation I lived on and I've always

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talked I mean, you mentioned it just now where like time just goes by faster and we've

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talked about something show for me when I became a wrestling fan like I was so born in

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2006. Vagely was in a wrestling here and there and like 89, 90, 91, 92, like new of Hogan

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Savage would periodically tune in, watch it with my dad, that type of stuff really wasn't

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full blown into wrestling until the summer of 93 when I went to a friend's house and WWE

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left superstars was on at noon time on Saturday morning following Saturday morning cartoons.

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Man, I miss those days and they were doing the Lex Express, all American tour getting ready

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for summer slam 93 against Yokozuna and that's when I started to really get involved in

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professional wrestling from 93 till about 2001 like we're talking invasion angle all that

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stuff. That took me into my high school years that to me, Dr. Tri felt like 20 years of

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professional wrestling like that to me is like a huge gap of like that was a really, really

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long time when essentially it was just eight years and eight years ago here we are in

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2005. So eight years ago would have been 2017 and that was like Kenny Omega and Kuzuchko

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caught a tearing up in New Japan, a bullet club on the rise. I think at that point who

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else was kind of tearing it up there was it like was that the Lesnar, WrestleMania 34, was

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that the one that you were at, WrestleMania 33 like Cena, Miz, Futing, that type of stuff.

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So yeah, 34 was Lesnar reigns because that's when Sammy was made in East of six, right?

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So yeah, like that's, well AJ had already come in to WWE at that point. So that was like

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it would, to me it was when AJ joined the bullet club is when kind of all of this stuff kind

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of kicked off because it was like, oh my God, that's the TNA guy, he's in Japan and now he

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made Japanese wrestling kind of cool and because we didn't know who Finn Balor was really unless

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you were a diehard fan, but all of us knew who AJ was and so that made us start watching

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New Japan and we're like, oh my God, this stuff is really cool and then when they kicked AJ

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out and Kenny kind of took over, we're like, this is, that's when you and I really started

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championing the new Golden Age of Wrestling. Yeah, it was around that time.

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And that to me just felt like yesterday, which if you asked me in 2001, like what was the

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1993 wrestling like for you in 94 wrestling and be like, oh, that was like 20 years ago,

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which is not, it's, it's just insane. And it's funny because there's, and part of it's

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also because there's a gap in there from, oh nine through about 2012 that we, like, oh

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seven, oh eight through about 20, 12 that we kind of try to block out wrestling because it just

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wasn't really good. I could not agree with you more. I remember Smackdown being like unwatchable.

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This is when they have like, like Tyler Rex on there, like, there'd be always these names that

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just like, do you remember they wrestled there and then they would disappear? The Nathan Jones of the

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world, I didn't write, yeah, road warrior Hawk drunk on the Titan Drawn era. Yeah, you're, you're

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like all over that some attitude error, that's some early 2000 stuff. Well, when did Heiden

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Reich take, oh, no, that's right. Hi, it was, I'm sorry, I'm confusing draws. You think

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it draws Heiden Reich came to LOD after Hawk passed away. Yeah, it was all of that, it was that

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era of Heiden Reich, Nathan Jones, Tyler Rex. See, see, this is what happened when you get old. Like,

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Nathan Jones was like WrestleMania 19 because remember he was supposed to tag with Undertaker against

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Albert and Big Show. Yeah, okay, but I, but you maybe thinking like Vladimir Cosloff those times.

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Yeah, the Cosloff, the core. Yes. Yeah, Ezekiel Jackson, my guy. Yeah. So it's funny that you mentioned

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that time frame because like, because we were talking last week talking about the, so I was talking

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on the show, the importance of the John Cena Randy Orton stuff. And CNN Orton in that time frame

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of '08 to 2012, Russell, each other had a ton. And that is a time period of professional wrestling

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that I think I legitimately, like you said, I chose to block out because it just wasn't a time period

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that was very good. It was like CM Punk and Kofi Kinks and tagging legacy was kind of involved in

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there. Orton was very skinny. It was just not a good time period for WWE wrestling, WWE wrestling

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at that point. Yeah, like it was funny because I actually, I've been trying to catch up on some

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podcasts and like, I don't know if you'll feel like Chris Van Vee, but I like his interviews. And

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I'm just got done watching the Kevin Owens interview. And he had mentioned like that era of

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wrestling, like made him, that was one of a few times in his life that he kind of tuned out on wrestling

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because a lot of it was, Brinsey Pete, didn't we just do this like two, three weeks ago? And then he

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referenced like 2017, 2018 as kind of being the same way. And I was like, oh yeah, like some of those,

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there like early years of the show, when everybody was hurt in the, in the shows weren't good,

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where you and I were like, man, should we even continue 20, I think it was around 2016. You and I had

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a really hard to hard talk about should we continue the podcast because wrestling was so bad.

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And then now we're at another point where like, damn, we may want to retire, but the product is so good,

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it's hard to put it down. And if we don't have this thing to talk about, it would just be me calling

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Jeff for like an hour on a Thursday going, all right, man, I know we're not recording, but dear God,

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did you see this? Did you see this? What do you think of this? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it's,

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there's definitely been time periods where you just like kind of forget and time periods where there's

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like this massive boom period. And it's, oh, it's the older you get as a wrestling fan. It's funny how

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you could like look at these errors that are really good. Like I think we just, I feel like we came out

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of a really good error that we'll look look back at. I think presently what we're in right now is kind

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of like a retooling because there's some creativity issues I think going on with WWE specifically where

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they're not as smooth and together like they've been over the last three to five years, certain points.

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But I feel like you could see like if they start just tightening things up a little bit that they've

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got the talent on the roster where they can easily get back right back into it. And I kind of look at it

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from like 97 to 01. It was such a good year for professional wrestling. Some people may even throw 96

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in there for WWE perspective. WWE, WWE too at that period of time even though they started go downhill

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in towards 2001. And then you look at like 2002, 2003 WWE. And it wasn't that good. It was still

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watchable but it wasn't that good. And then they went into a pretty decent error from like 0 4 to 0 7

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before dropping off again for a period of time and then things picked up 10 plus years later.

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So I don't know if that's the path that we're going on here but I guess the best way to look at

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this doctorate is by looking at backlash and recapping review in it and seeing if WWE is still far

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in all cylinders or maybe what I'm saying right now of. Hey I think I think that they're not as smooth as

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they've been. They've got the great in-wing workers. They've got the characters and we could see

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them getting back there and it could be there sooner rather than later or I may be completely wrong

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that's going no this this train is still going on and it's a really good time for professional wrestling.

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So let's get into it WWE backlash, recapping review this past Saturday from the Enterprise Center

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in St. Louis Missouri. The first match here was Jacob Batu defeating LA Night Damien Priests in

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Drew McAhtar in a fatal four-way match to retain the WWE United States Championship. We both had

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Jacob Batu in this one. This was a really well-booked fatal four-way match. It was fun as hell and Jacob

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Batu's start is really really rising. Jeff Cobb's debut was a nice surprise it was starting to feel

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like this was the direction they would go with him as the news reports of his eminent debut were coming

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and then Solo saying he needed more soldiers the night before on SmackDown, the dynamic between Solo,

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the group in Jacob will make for a fun slow burning storyline that should catapult Batu and super

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start him heading into 2026. Dr. Tre, I love this match. This is a great fatal four-way your thoughts on

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this one. Yeah I really love the dynamic in this match because you see guys team up for a little

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bit and then it meet like you see Damien Priests and LA Night work together then of course, you know,

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sucker punch thrown and then something else like that happened. I thought it was really well put

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together. It also continues the Drew Damien feud as we get closer. We're going to have a hell of a

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sell match at some point. I kind of figured these guys because you don't do the south of heaven through

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a table unless you're leading to something even bigger than what they've done. The LA Night stuff

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it would Jacob and then Solo and Jeff Cobb. I mean, Solo's not wrong. He needs more sort of, I mean,

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what Tom and Tonga, Tonga Lo, they're both out injured. They're really as nobody else. I mean, we got

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Hickaleo on the roster somewhere, Lance Annoi, he's on the roster somewhere but bringing it a heavy

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like Jeff Cobb is fantastic. Bronson Reed should be back before too long as well and I was literally

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talking about my friend on their day. It's like, man, if they paired Jeff Cobb and Bronson Reed together,

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like that's going to be fun as well but yeah, great storytelling, great finish, Jacob's facials or

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some of the best in wrestling as well. Solo's still sorely underrated but yeah, just a really,

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really fun way to kick off the pay-per-view. It really feels like that the fans are ready to

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explode to embrace him as a full-fledged baby face when it comes to Jacob thought too, Dr. Try.

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He's an anomaly and we've always talked about this. When you have an anomaly come on the scene,

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it's really, really hard for the fans to dislike somebody who's not like anything else they've

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ever seen. Yeah, it's something there. I mean, it's very cool looking at his popularity and where he

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could be headed in 2026. The next match here is Lyra Valcurator feeding Becky Lynch to retain the WWE

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Women's Intercontinental Championship. We both had Becky Lynch in this one. This was a great match

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and a breakout performance for Lyra Valcurator on the main roster. Good back and forth throughout.

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These are the type of matches I want to see for the Women's Intercontinental Championship division

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moving forward. I love this match too, Dr. Try. At this point, WWE is two for two. This was a great

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showcase for Lyra Valcurator and I'm glad that Becky got it out of her showing that she belongs

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your thoughts on this Women's Intercontinental Championship match. Yeah, I love the match. This was

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really the first time that to me, Lyra really got over with the crowd. They were really invested in

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this and we saw, I mean, she kicked out of three manhandled slams in that match, which is unheard of

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and got out of this armor. I will say, the only thing I disliked about this was showing her fiance

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on camera. For one, I didn't know she was engaged to Weirdel Yankovic, but also, we've seen that

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so many times now, we don't need that. But other than that, the match was fantastic and I was like,

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this is one of the better women's matches. I mean, the WrestleMania triple threat with EO,

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Grilla, and Bianca was really good, but for a single one on one match, this is one of the better

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one on one match, so we've had quite a while in WWE. I would agree. I felt the same way. I

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thought this was one of the best women's matches I've seen in WWE in 2025.

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Yeah, no, absolutely. But once again, I still, I can't get that guy's face out of my head. It's

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been stuck in my head since backlash, like the fiancee. I'm like, man.

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I would just DM him. DM him, don't you try?

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I'm just saying that just for all those guys out there that the women's wrestlers complain about

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about being at the airport and getting pictures autographs. If you look at that guy, any one of us

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has a shot at a WWE female wrestler. Hey, words to live by, get a tattooed on the collarbone,

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my friends. Next match here is Dominic Washera, defeated Pantsett to retain the WWE

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Intercontinental Championship. You know, I both had Dominic this one. The match felt really quick,

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which was disappointing, disappointing from that sense. They played all the things they needed to do,

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like the botched judgment day interference, which plays up if Finn wanted them to get caught in

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the first place. Only helped distract the ref for the interference from Elbron de Mexicano.

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I understand the tension in the judgment day from Finn to Dominic, but I really don't want to see

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another backstabbing angle within the judgment day take place again, at least for a little while.

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So hopefully, don't WWE holds off on it, but I highly doubt that is the case based on things

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like this match, the backstage fitting, yet that have been taken place, and then Finn's seen in

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the background talking with Roxanne Perez the last two weeks. It just felt rushed on this one,

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Dr. Tray, as Dominic Washera retains over Penta. Yeah, it felt a little bit like they were playing

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the greatest hits. You know, like, okay, we got to get this moving, we got to get this in, we got to

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get this in, we got to get this in. My other frustration was now by the end, it's like, all right,

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we've had, we already had to kind of a screw job finish in the first match with Jeff Cobb getting

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involved. We're getting another screw job finished now with Elbron de Americano getting involved.

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That's why to me, this was kind of like the filler match, like I really, like, it felt like a really

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good Monday night Raw match is how I got to felt about this one. Yeah, yeah, and I think that's a

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really good way to put it, it felt like a TV match on a PLA. So yeah, sometimes you wish that they

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took some of those TV matches and put them on PLAs, like, I don't know, that TLC match we saw from

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a couple weeks ago in Smackdown. Gunther defeats Pat McAfee, you and I both had Gunther in this one.

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It was an entertaining match. You could tell Gunther was letting up a lot more than we were used to

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seeing against McAfee in this one. They did have the crowd in the palm of their hands throughout,

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so the fans were mostly invested. McAfee is athletic, but this is not one of those, not one of his

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better in-ring performances like we've seen in the past from him. The other thing that I'll add

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here, Dr. Trey is, and I'm a fan of Pat McAfee, but it felt like WWE really tried to conjure up

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the feels and the fan reaction of like giving him that respectful standing ovation. It felt very

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forced, post-match. It felt very forced on Raw the next night, even though I guess you can make a case

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that was like an organic standing ovation from the crowd. I just didn't feel like that performance

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from Pat necessarily warranted that type of reaction because his other performances have been so much

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better. So I was surprised with that, and then it's like, what was the point of this entire thing?

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Was it just to give Pat that moment so that he has like respect from the fans? I was thinking

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on last week's podcast that maybe this leads to the Bill Goldberg return one that's being rumored.

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I think that's definitely more aligned with the June 6 or 7 match against the World of the Way.

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Champagne that Guthrur has in Phoenix, Arizona, which also happens to be where

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Bill Goldberg lives. So I don't know, I don't know, Dr. Trey. I just was very surprised

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that the fans were like really, really behind him on this one. What were your thoughts on

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and take away, so you're as Gunther defeats Pat McAfee? So watching it as a wrestling fan, you get one

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view and then watching it as something who likes and appreciates Pat McAfee, you almost have a separate

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view. Like to me, the match was put together the way it needed to be because Gunther's bigger,

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stronger, faster, younger, more athletic in a lot of ways than what Pat is now. I think he's probably

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at the early 40s. It's just one of the things where it's like, yeah, it shouldn't have been a competitive

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match. And the reason we've loved some of Pat's matches earlier was he was wrestling guys more

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his size. This is a bigger, stronger guy. I did get caught up in it though a little bit like when the

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Michael Colg gets involved with it. I was like, all right, look at, look at little Michael Colg getting

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involved in the signal for his boy. So I liked it on that end. It did get me caught up in that end.

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But overall, the match itself was fine. It was booked the way it was supposed to be. I just didn't like

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the rest. You know, he I hate the mutual respect angles at the end. I hate those. If you're the bad guy,

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be a bad guy. If you're a good guy, be a good guy. And like I get it, they're trying to show that,

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you know, he earned the respect of Gunther, but at the same time, like that guy should be a killer.

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He should be like the whole purpose of Gunther's ring general, the ring is sacred. It's so guys like Pat

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don't jump into it. That's I just I didn't like the mutual admiration thing at the end. I get why

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the fans love Pat McAfee. He's a fun guy, dude. I love I like watching his shows. I like watching him on

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the other stuff. I thought this is going to be Pat's write off to get ready for college football season

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because he'll be on game day again. So and then it didn't happen. So it's going to be interesting

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how they play this out going forward because to me, Gunther should be your evil monster villain

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that people are terrified of being the ring with. And there were parts in that match. Like I can think

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of it specifically like when he towards in the match when he started doing the the the elbows strikes

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to McAfee's neck and shoulder, those were super light. And it was like, yeah, like that was just

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noticeably. I'm like, stuff like that. Like it's fun. And the crowd gets into it. But for like guys,

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like us, it's like Mac, I could have gone to the bathroom and I could have gone and grabbed, you

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know, a bite to eat and kind of skipped over. It was entertaining, but it didn't need to be on a PLE.

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Yeah, no, I totally agree with you. It's it yeah, it just was kind of missing. And yeah, I would

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prefer that he went all in on the chops rather than not go all in on the chops against Pat.

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And then finally, Dr. Trey, the main event here was John Cena defeating Randy Orton or

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retaining the anticipated WWE championship in 2025. We both had John Cena in this one. What a fun

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just live in the moment because we will probably never see these two rivals wrestle again moment.

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And it's 2025, which is just insane that this is happening. It's John Cena versus Reign,

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or in the main event with the WWE Championship on the line. And they had the crowd in the palm of

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their hands. This is a very entertaining match in these legends delivered. This is just one of

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those rare moments. Dr. Trey, where I just kind of like sat back, relaxed, and I was like, I'm just

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going to take this all in because we will probably never see this again. I'm good. I love this match.

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And a lot of it is because I have it's old school Cena in the sense of the way he was wrestling

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in old school, Orton. Like we saw the side headlock take down. You know, you can see them going,

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you know, we're going to take this back a little bit to what we used to do. Then you got a table,

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spot, you got the table, by the way, can we just get rid of the new announced table? That thing is

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horrible. And it has done nothing but hurt people and not do as supposed to do. Can we go back to the

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old announced tables or something like this? Just it takes away from stuff. And they had a

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noticeable audible in the middle of the match because the broadcast table malfunctions.

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But outside of that, like it was just fun. It was entertaining. It was, I mean, we got two ref bombs,

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you know, title belt shot. It's a lot of old school wrestling. And I always go back to John Cena saying

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early in the run that he is going to ruin pro wrestling for people. And what he's doing is he's just

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taking it back to what made wrestling great for guys like us, which are those like narcissistic

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heels that will cower down when they need to slow slower matches in the beginning. That leads to

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a fun finish. And if that's ruining wrestling, I'm ear for because that's the wrestling I love.

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Yeah, you know, that was just one of those things where for me, Dr. Tre, and I was talking about it

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on last week's pod where I really didn't want to go into this match like highly scrutinizing it or

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looking at it and it picking. I just kind of wanted to live in the moment because I think you could

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make a case that this was, this is one of WWE's greatest rivalries of all time. Like when have we

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ever seen a wrestling rivalry span 20 years like this? And that's just how I felt about this entire

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match where to me it was just, you know, I do I love the in ring style of the Kenny Omega's Will Ospreys,

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AJ Styles, Seth Rollins, CM Punk's Drew McIntyre's The World absolutely, but I love shit like this as

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well. Yeah, I mean, it's what you want in wrestling. You want physicality. You want some great action

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spots. You want a store. You want, you know, good characters. By the way, I don't know if you thought

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about this 25 years that they've been feeling this is the first time Randy Orton looked bigger than

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John Cena. Like Orton looked mad. I remember some of them early matches where Cena was all jacked up and

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Orton was that slender, lanky look to them. I'm like, not only they switch roles in baby, face and heel,

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they switched body types in this match as well. But yeah, I mean, it's just it's everything you want,

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your pro wrestling to really be without the crazy high spots, but you still got a table spot in there

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which is kind of like, I feel like that's what they went into going, all right, we need one thing for

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the spot monkey fans for like a better term. Hey, it looks to a table spot. All right, great. You know,

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but everything else tied into what these characters do and go from there. Like I love the puns attempt

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by John Cena, that ruthless side that he has now. Like it was just a really what a, and all you

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know, it's in my top 10 for matches of the year. Like it was just that entertaining and that solid

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of a performance by these guys. Yeah, it was it was a fun one and I just think everybody should,

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I hope everybody had an opportunity to just kind of sit back and relax and enjoy it like we did,

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because it was great. It really was like one of those things where it's like these are veterans

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in professional wrestling. They know how to work it and they were two of the best of best

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rivalries we've ever seen before we get into kind of recapitivated fully here, pay-per-view prediction

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record match of the match of the nine event rating. Dr. Trey, I made a case for this is one of,

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if not the greatest WWE rivalry of all time, where would you stand on the John Cena Randy Orton stuff?

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So it's weird because the longevity kind of jumps in ahead of a lot of stuff. Like obviously rock

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Austin's up there. You know Sean Brett, some of the like a Hogan savage to a degree. I'd probably

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put it right behind Austin and rock that I mean it may not have happened. Austin Rock is what number one

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to you? I would have Austin Rock or maybe I did that Austin McMahon. Where how did you, did you break

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it into Austin McMahon and Austin Rock? I didn't break it up. I actually think I went rock Austin. I did

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not consider Austin McMahon in that vein because it's just like more I was more looking at the in-ring

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style of things. Yeah, so I'd have Austin Rock number one just because of that era of the attitude

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era and how hot it was. Cena Orton has spanned the test of time through good errors of wrestling and bad

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and maybe never had the great promo battles that Austin and Rock did but for longevity some of

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the great storytelling some of these matches they did. Like it's probably number two. It's ahead of

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Brett and Sean which I didn't think I'd ever say. Yeah, I agree with you. I you know I really didn't

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put foot to ground on where the rivalry was. I probably would agree with you. I would still think

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rock Austin one or in Cena two and then I think Brett Sean three but a lot of the Brett

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Sean stuff I think is a lot of the allure that went on behind the scenes of the Montreal screw job

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post when they were wrestling. Like like I was excited for Orton and seen in this past Saturday but if

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you told me hey it's summer slam rock and Austin got back in the ring like there's a report right

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now from WrestleVotes I would like absolutely lose my mind. So I think that's how you kind of look

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at it. It's like Cena Orton is you respect it and then you kind of go holy shit I think they may have

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been one of the greatest fraud of all time. I mean the only other feud I've ever thought that had

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that longevity was maybe dusty in flayer. You know because I mean that start off in the late 70s

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and last it all the way through the late 90s when or actually in the into about early 2000 when WC

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even though Dusty may not have been active in ring he was still like in those like commissioner

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roles or helping out you know Dustin or whatever against the the horseman like that rivalry really

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did span you know probably 25 years but that was them in their prime entering their retirement

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era whereas Cena and Orton start off when they were green for lack of better's earned and then

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lasted their entire course because like they said on the show Orton could probably go another five

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years. Yeah yeah and in reality Cena if he wanted to could go another five years as well. Yeah

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no he could as well funny I mean Michael Cole mentioned it as they were building up towards

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match I think maybe the bell had wrong but he's like the first time he's two guys wrestlers like

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August 9th 2001 at the Bryan Pillian Pillian Memorial Show and I never I never knew that I remember

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being a kid reading online the Bryan Pillian Memorial Show because it blew my mind because it had

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WWE WCW ECW stars I think people from OVW maybe NWA as well all involved and I was like the only show

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that all the wrestling companies in the world come together and be like all right let's just do

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this for the right reasons and I looked back as as Cole said that I like pause I was I was watching

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backlash on demand and I was like let me look this up and there you see it's like a 16 match card

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and like in the middle of it it was Randy Orton defeats the prototype and I was like there were

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people there that day that had no idea that 24 years from now this would be one of the greatest

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wrestling rivalries of all time and here is in the middle of the show a very special show and like

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that was just very very cool so had tip to both men on an amazing rivalry I'm sure we'll have an

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opportunity to talk about that at greater length here as as the year goes on and we look back at the

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career of John Cena. Paperview prediction record from backlash we both went four and one I came out

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of it 28 and 9 dr. Trey 27 and 10 match of the night and event rating I gave my event rating a 4.1 out of

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five and my match the night dr. Trey at that there were three really really good matches the fatal

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four-way Lyra and Becky and then Cena and Orton at the end of the day I love that fatal four-way

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match so I went with Fat 2 LA night Damien Priest and Drew McIntyre what's a you event rating

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and match of the night and I'm gone one week and we're back on agreeing on stuff so like I literally had

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it as we were like I was doing the math in my head I was like yeah about a 4.1 and then you say 4.1

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so I was at a 4.1 also my match tonight and it's going to be because I'm all and I'm nostalgic

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and these guys have literally been the top two wrestlers of you know my adulthood it was seen

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in Orton like that was just a fun match and then also nobody wins a world title in their hometown

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or home country for that's her nobody does it so you make Orton lose in St. Louis yeah that's

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some heel stuff right there by WWE so Orton and Cena where was my match tonight but the other two matches

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were right there with it I just leaned a little more to my nostalgia let's get to some quick hits

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here looking at the John Cena Rainy Orton's up now coming out of this match the first is our

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Truths that are fair to the match and laid out truth later in the night at the post show put

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truth through a table which by the way folks if you go back and you watch that clip our truth actually

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makes John Cena break character did you notice did you watch that clip at all doctor I watched it

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a couple times because I was like is this you know it's always like waiting for that moment and that

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what the thing that caught me is when he called them Ron and I think he did that because truth made him

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break yeah I when he said you never gave up and you see Cena laugh yeah it was always like it was

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and at least he did the right thing and kind of turned his head and shook his head a little bit

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and then before he went it but it was kind of like the you could play it off as the you dumb son of

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a gun I literally you know don't say you know but yeah it was you can't have our truth around and

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not break character like he's he's a national treasure for professional wrestling let me see if

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this comes off well here on the podcast hold on let's see

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like right there he got me break character because you can hear you can audibly hear it in the

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microphone that really little laugh sniffle thing when you're trying not to laugh and you almost snort

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yes like he almost made he almost made Cena snort into a live microphone that's one of my favorite

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things in wrestling is like when stuff like that goes hey why it's like the the J.U. So with a blood

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line with Sammy Zayn making a break character and like all hell breaking loose and it just makes for

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a really fun segment so everybody's buddy still plays along and they still remain in the universe

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of what they're seeing there but I do love when that stuff plays place so there's rumblings and I

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I don't believe this is official but John there's rumblings at john Cena will to be taken on

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rent our truth at Saturday night's main event a couple weeks in Tampa I suspect this show will

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probably be available for download on Friday I suspect that'll be announced on Friday Smackdown

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are my thoughts um what that said if that's the direction they go doctor try do you think who do

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you think should be next to face john Cena after our truth uh that's a good question because what we're

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in June we'll be coming into June we're in May right now so we're heading into June can I add a little

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over to this layer go ahead give me give me a little bit because I'm trying to think I'll talk about it

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the rumblings right now are our truth Cena Saturday night's main event two weeks one more day weekend

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there are rumblings money the bank LA that Cena is going to be tagging with your boy Travis Scott in

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the tag team match that to me screams that's Cody road's is on his way back so we could be looking

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here at a tag team match we could talk about the tag team match or we could talk about the next singles

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match I think the next singles match for Cena should be CM Punk but I don't know how we get there

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right now based on how punk's trajectory is when did when did punk walk out what what payperview

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was that when he took the bell money in the bank that's what everybody's that's what everybody was

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hoping money the banks are caught yeah yeah and then that's kind of what I'm like I think if you're

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if you're going to a tag match with Cena unless you're planning on seeing a dropping the belt at

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summer slam uh you do the tag match you know as summer slam because it is a bigger event in two nights

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and dear god who's Cody gonna get jelly roll the beast partner everybody wants bad bunny naturally um

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that doesn't have natural chemistry Cody and bad but that's that doesn't have there's no tie-in

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to that like jelly roll was just there you know like he was at wrestle main if you're crying out loud

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you could and they're both southern like you could understand their promos if they were like

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Cody talking to bad bunny is just kind of like I don't it's just it's just a weird conversation it's

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just like it's like watching Alexa talk to Siri like it's two different worlds um I want Cody and

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jelly roll against Johnson and Travis now these are those moments that I wish we had like a time

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machine like in 2013 and we're like hey we're allowed to like jump to 2025 and listen to the podcast

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and we do that and we just get to that clip where you're like I want Cody Rhodes to tag against

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John Cena and Travis Scott like I want his tag team to partner to be either jelly roller bad bunny

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I just want us to then then we come back to reality in 2013 and we're like holy shit Vince is still

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book in the show like what rest of his name is jelly roll and bad bunny that is true but but then again

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we'd often like Cody Rhodes is wearing knee pads or wearing long tides like Cody Rhodes is actually a

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main event person like that's a thing like that would be a little bit mind blown as well true it's

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funny I mean what what's the next one-on-one match I mean Cena's on the Smackdown brand I mean definitely

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consider some raw guys I would love to see again I don't know how this fits in the storylines

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with the way things are going give me Seth Rollins versus Cena one more time give me Roman Reigns

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versus Cena one more time but I think for me the next one that's that's unlike the wish list would be

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would be CM Punk I mean for me if it was me it would be Punk but you figure punks tied up this whole

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thing with Paul Heyman's satellite LA night if you're doing if you're doing a show in LA why not do

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LA night any something to do if we're moving more towards Jacob Fah 2 and solo you got Drew and

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Damien over here LA night needs something to do LA night and Johnson because I mean for everybody

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else that everybody else goes LA night is basically just kind of playing the stone cold rock

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John Cena hits hey put him in the ring of John Cena let him let him try get over that way

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and then talking about Randy Orton here Dr. Trey you know you and mention it they were saying on

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the show that they feel like or Orton would say in two that he has another five to 10 years left in

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them and all I could think of was like there was a period time I never thought John Cena would have

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another World title reign and up until the match with Cena on Saturday I didn't I don't feel like

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given the way that the state of WWE is right now that Randy Orton may ever have another World title

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run do you think Randy Orton has another World title run under under under his belt like could he

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get to 15 could he get to 16 could he get to 17 like what are the chances here in the next five to

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10 years Randy Orton gets another run with a World Championship and how many times do you think he

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gets a run at it I think Elyse gets one more at least I could easily see Triple H giving him one more

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just so he breaks the tie with Triple H like that's kind of the person that Hunter is that hey I love

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this kid so much I'm gonna let him get ahead of me I can see them giving him two just a tie flare

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and be one behind Cena because I think when you're looking at the the packing order of wrestling of

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the L of the 2000s it's seen at one Orton's probably number two so like I can see them going that

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route me Roman depending on much longer he goes could easily jump into that conversation but

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the last 25 years to me it's seen a one Orton two so I can see them at least can he him to

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break the tie with Triple H and potentially tie Rick flare with this with 16 who would you more

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likely want to see break the 17 time World Championship record because there's only really two

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people that are close to it one being Randy Orton the second one being Charlotte Flair who would

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you prefer to see break the record if those are my two options like that's a pretty easy I think

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we all love Randy Orton and look I respect Charlotte Flair I remember Jeff Peg telling me how gorgeous

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Charlotte Flair was when she first debuted at NXT and what a massive little man or let massive

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little crushy add on her but I don't know like at least with the Randy character we know Randy

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or both sides of the fence like he's one of the most well-rounded wrestlers we've ever seen

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I don't think we can say that about Charlotte Charlotte is a lot like her dad she only works

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really well when she's the despise heal so I'm gonna take Randy you know all day every day and twice

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on Sunday those are my two options and then Dr. Trey keeping up here with WWE stuff the brawn,

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Seth Paul Heyman trio the dangerous alliance I want them to be called the vision because I think he

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was like relying on those that line over and over again I thought the vision would be a good name

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for these three they're obviously foodie feuding right now it's punk it's Sammy it's J.U. So

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there are some folks that are thinking that there could be a turn at some point I think Tommy

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Dreamer said it on busted open radio then he could see Sammy Zayn turning and the lining with these

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guys I don't see it that way is there someone out there on raw on smackdown that you think would

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be a great third person to add to this group I mean it's hard because you you want them to be on

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the level of Sammy J and obviously CM Punk I did like Tommy Dreamer's idea because then that brings

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Roman into the mix you know but I mean on paper like excuse me like I'd love to see them bring

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A town like I to me if you're gonna have a heel faction you have to outnumber the baby faces so I'd

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love to see them bring in like an A town down under which if I'm not mistaken one of those guys is

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wrestling grace oh no shameless shameless wrestling grace and wall or Monday nights on a roll I can't

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remember because they're sorry money in the bank qualifying Monday night as well I just think you need

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a chance facing on Monday it might be grace and wall or yeah I think you're right it is grace and

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so theories the most logical choice because he has the history with Seth and you also if you're bringing

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up brawn you also want to elevate one of your younger talents trying to think to me like it's

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he's gonna be you're the somebody a turn which would be a sami zane to bring Roman reigns into the mix

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makes a bunch of sense or you know like I said before like a brawnson read like brawnson and Seth have

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a little bit of history so you need somebody big massive or you need somebody to turn their backs

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on the fans inside with them you know what yeah go ahead no no go ahead doctor I'll just say I

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also try to figure is there somebody that has history with either somebody already on the like

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amen ed does he have history of somebody or history with the family on something that's why I was

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trying to figure out like is there I am and right now my brain is not connecting enough dots I would

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love I don't think it fits his character but I would love to see carrying cross out into the

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group see I think carrying is like I think one that's when the riots come back you'll see carrying

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with the riots but isn't the riots on smackdown yeah but isn't no carrying is on both shows to me

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no he's on raw like yeah carrying needs to either get his own group or be alone because he doesn't fit

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in the model of following someone else you know um trying to think who else would be a good

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fit I mean if you're breaking up the judgment day why don't you throw a dom in there or a thin in

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there interesting dom would be interesting so I just I just think with a carrying thing like I

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could you imagine like Heyman and carrying crosscutting promos together yeah but they're then

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they're on the same side and it's really hard you want to see and go at it yeah and so that's why

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you would need them on opposite sides they have great promo battles otherwise it's kind of like when

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pumpkin Heyman were together as eels Heyman didn't talk much you know punk still did most the talking

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and then they just use Heyman to kind of be the intermediary when you know they're just trying to

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create some heat without punking physically involved and that would be the same kind of dynamic with

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carrying cross and Paul Heyman is carrying with you all like a lot of talking and Paul's not there

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so it's it's kind of like as much as I love to see them paired up it you almost either want them on

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opposite sides or you want them you know on opposing brands like or opposing angles like they kind of

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have them now um trying to think is there anybody in NXT that you could think of that would actually be

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like an oboe femy yeah with Seth and Braun would be great but that's it's too early for that yeah

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it's really difficult I mean that was the thing I was like everybody's keep saying like there's

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got to be someone that's coming and I don't think like it's a Mac and Tire benefits from that because

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he's established I want to see someone more in line with the Braun maker you need somebody younger than

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Seth that you can go it's it's the old horseman thing you need that young guy that up and coming guy

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that doesn't mind following falling in line behind the more experienced veteran much like

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evolution you know things like that where it's the experienced guy and then the younger guy's following

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as much of a badass is Braun and you can see a little bit that at some point you know Braun and

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Seth are gonna split apart because Hayden is gonna pick a side but you know right now it's like you

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need a younger guy a talented guy a Carmelo Hayes if you could steal it from SmackDown like

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somebody younger that doesn't really have direction right now that you could fit into that category

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and mold them kind of in Aussie kind of like what they try to do with Aime and back with the

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Ryback Curtis Axel time oh god yeah talk about periods of time that we try to forget

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if Ludwig Cus Kaiser wasn't tied with Gunther I would consider him if Chad Gabel wasn't doing

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the El Grande Americana and I had American made I'd love to see him involve it's it's a tough call

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and if they have someone earmarked I have no idea who it is actually you know what Dr. Trey we

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mentioned his name earlier what about Branson Reed yeah that's what I say in early like Branson has a tie

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in with Seth so that would make a lot of sense so you oh you mentioned him before as I was like

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racking my brain yeah I did yeah okay so you know you sound like my wife now I was like man I'm

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really trying to think about this as you were like saying the stuff and I completely missed that I

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mean a great thing would be if they broke up American made and put the creeds with them both

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three brothers with them that'd be pretty good because you need either a tagged like you you're

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gonna follow the model like every model has been superstar and forcer tag team like that's the

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the great setup for all these great virtues that I know they try to get right I think you're right I

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think you're right I think it's Branson so and he's up he should be back within the next month no

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he's reportedly he's clear okay so if there was a time to do it it would be like this tag team

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that's that they're promoting it Saturday night's main event but then the flip side I'm really trying

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to like rack my brain like look at every roster like so damn quick here and it's like it's it to me

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it's only Branson Reed then the flip side though is what Tommy dreamer said like then if if you bring

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Branson Reed and what were you gonna do with Roman like that's that's the big question do you do

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Roman and that's your big feud no no got there you said got there yeah no no I think it's I think

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it's Roman Seth at like summer slam but then you're kicking one of those other three guys out of

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the little three man group of the baby faces have are you kicking Sammy out kicking Jay out who

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are you moving out to add a Roman to the mix that's why the Tommy dreamers have made sense because

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of Sammy turned that's what we could find with him with Jay and yeah oh it's tough it's a tough one I

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it's a tough it's a tough one easy no no no people people act like it is but it's like yeah this

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sounds great on paper but then what do you do with this guy this guy and this guy because you're

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paying him a lot of money and you have nothing for them to do but are we thinking that way because

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there is holes in the WWE stories right now going back to like my initial thing at the top of the

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show because I think that could be something that you could say I think this is we you I would say

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most years we run into this early post-resolmania reset where okay we don't want to rehash anything

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we've done the last year or two years so what can we do to kind of move things around shake things up

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create different storylines so like you and I have sat here many a year not last year maybe

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a year before because those stories were pretty much set but you go back two years we had the

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Brock Lesnar turn right after WrestleMania and we were like what the hell was this where this come

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from like there's always that little early and I say year but it's post-resolmania year

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because you know wrestle WWE's year runs made April so early year WWE they always have these

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kind of weird shakeups where it feels like the storylines a little off track or it doesn't make a

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whole lot of sense yet but then by right after my in the bank they have their groove going again so

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I just think right now it's kind of like we have all these pieces how do we create the picture from

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the puzzle and move things around where everybody has something to do or and we're maximizing

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what we're paying all these guys. It's a tough one it's I think they probably have an idea I would

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hope they do but it's a tough one. Lastly here we wrap up this week's edition of the show Dr.

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Tre with some unfortunate and sad news wrestling legend Sabu passed away over the weekend

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and he most recently wrestled in his final match in GCW barbed wire match against Joey Genelle

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about three weeks prior to his passing during WrestleMania weekend as time goes on and people

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may not be accustomed to one's work and if you're older guys like Dr. Tre and I then you understand the

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impact that Sabu had in like 94 95 96 him and ECW people were not doing the stuff that he's doing was

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doing back then and it was innovative it was creative he was had an aura about him that was super

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cool and a lot of fun and when he came over to WWE in the mid to late 2000s for that awful ECW

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relaunch they did it was like insane to see him wrestling John Cena I believe it's summer slam

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Sabu was a one of a kind innovative wrestler and tragically passing away at six years old I mean

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that is young that is incredibly young was a true legend of the wrestling game and one of the best

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Dr. Tre I was really really saddened here that Sabu passed away this past week yeah this is one of

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those rare times for the show where I've actually had a personal interaction with somebody that

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had passed away like this like he was at wrestling con two for us we did the ECW style show and like

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I remember like I I'm not intimidating I just I don't like bothering people I think are way more

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famous than me so I kind of not always kept my distance in the locker room but you know give guys

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their space I mean these are guys who are have been on the WWE stage or the you know the WCWAW stage

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whatever it is and now they're in like a small middle school gymnasium locker room is where they're

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dressing out so I give guys their space but I remember like he had his his wife with him uh Jeanie super

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Jeanie super Jeanie was with him at the time and I'm out back and I'm taking a break from the show

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because at this point I hadn't gone into I was still angry heel manager Dr. Tre Franklin and so I'm

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out back taking a smoke break and I see him and Jeanie kind of like you know probably about good you know

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7500 yards away from me so I'm just giving them their space he actually walks up to me and

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bums a cigarette off me and we end up talking for just a little bit me just telling him how I

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appreciate if I was of what everything he's done for wrestling and him actually giving me a

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little props for how good my promo stuff was but when when Jeanie passed to when super Jeanie passed

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away a couple years ago I kind of felt like it might trend this way because she was the one who was

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always kind of keeping an eye on him not letting him do stupid stuff but it is completely heartbreaking

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to hear about this because I mean he was so far ahead of his time I mean a lot of ways for

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old school wrestling fans that maybe don't really know his work it was kind of like if Sean

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Michaels and Mick Foley had a bait like he could do all this crazy aerial stuff but he had no problem

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getting blown up trapped in barbed wire like just one of the toughest son of a gun you'd ever meet but

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like an athletic freaking a lot of ways and was so far ahead of his time like all the stuff you see

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guys doing now is all credit to him and rock van Dam in a lot of ways so just truly truly tragic news

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Jeff I'm gonna have to take a picture of the wrestling con poster for wrestling conto because in a

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lot of ways I mean that was just six years ago and I think there's at least four or five people that

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were on our show that have now passed away so it's kind of ominous but in a lot of ways like just

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really respectful of everything that you know we've done for guys and would guys have contributed

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to rock acidity but just horrible horrible news here of him passing because you know I had just

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listened to a podcast with him on it saw the GCW stuff because I have friends of mine that

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work GCW and to hear the passing was just just shockingly and heartbreaking in a lot of ways yeah it

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really was and task paid an amazing tribute to him online and also on a w this past week

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their rivalry was one of a kind go out of your way if you do not know about the rivalry to check it

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out and understand the importance of that rival because they were doing some really really cool

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stuff in the mid 90s there with those two guys so rest in peace of sabbu thoughts of prayers out

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to his family and friends all of his fans after his untimely passing one of the greatest he will be

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miss a true innovator in the world of fresh and wrestling with that said let's get a couple plugs

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at srtu jeff and dr. trape franken at the dr. trait and of course the first show on x at srtu

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podcast with that being said what is going on the wonderful world of dr. trape franklin this week

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well like jeff said you can follow me on x at the dr. trai you can find me on facebook or instagram

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or even threads i still dabble on that one as well just search out dr. trape franklin you'll find me

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but when you're on facebook be sure to check out rock and see jabish or wrestling we are

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coming off of restling con eight which was so much fun just an outstanding chef on top the bottom

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we have a next show coming up this saturday but be sure to check that out you can actually find

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the full restling con video on the facebook page and if jeff's willing i'll post up on our page as well

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so you guys can go check it out and see all the fun crazy stuff we did for restling con this year

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so there you go support all the great things that support srtu and enjoy the weekend thank you

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for making this part of your week thank you for downloading the show again don't forget to

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rate review and subscribe leave us a comment on the podcast tell us your thoughts on the show

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and uh join in on the conversation so until next week for dr. trape franklin i am jeff peck

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thank you for joining us this has been the story of the show