Aug. 9, 2024

SummerSlam Recap & Review | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #756 – 8/8/24

SummerSlam Recap & Review | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #756 – 8/8/24

On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:

- -- We recap & review "WWE SummerSlam!"
- -- How do we want to see the Roman Reigns/Bloodline storyline play out?
- -- How do we want to see the The Judgement Day implosion storyline play out?
- --...

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On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:

  • -- We recap & review "WWE SummerSlam!"
  • -- How do we want to see the Roman Reigns/Bloodline storyline play out?
  • -- How do we want to see the The Judgement Day implosion storyline play out?
  • -- And what are our early expectations for Gunther's World Heavyweight Championship reign?

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It's still.

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Welcome everybody. Welcome to this week's edition It's Surreal to

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Show episode number seven and fifty six for August eighth,

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twenty twenty four. This year w SummerSlam Recap and Review

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edition of ass R t Q. I am one aff

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the show. I Am Jeff Peking joined every single week

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from My coast on Only Not Trey Franklin, Doctor Trey

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Say Franklin is tearing up kindergarten. My friend.

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Yeah, it's it's it's a joyous and sad occasion for

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me because, uh, I'm really.

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Proud of my dude, Like, uh, no problem, No, Fear

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went right to school yesterday, first day of kindergarten. Backpack

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fully loaded down, Guess to school. Other kids are crying.

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He's fine.

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Tears on dad's face. So this is this is day

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two as we record this, and everybody's gone. It's just

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me and the dog and the cats, and I'm bored.

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I miss my best friend.

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I'm like I was telling somebody yesterday, if you've ever

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seen Forrest Gump at the end of the movie, when

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when Forrest puts his son on the bus and the

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bus drives away and Forrest just stands there and waits

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for his kid to come home. That's kind of how

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I feel right now, Like my entire days, it's like,

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all right, when when when when a Samy get out

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of school? When do I gotta go pick him up?

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Because I got nothing else going on, recovering from surgery

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and stuff until he gets home.

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Yeah, this is uh, this is definitely probably a weird

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time for a parent, right, I mean, this is uh.

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I'm not there yet. I saw four years and eleven

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months maybe ten months until that happens. But yeah, I

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mean I saw the photos you posted online yesterday and

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I'm like, man, I can't imagine what he's going through today.

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Yeah, it's it's it's weird for me because although I

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have you know, I have my oldest Carmen, I have

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my steps on.

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This is my first time doing this at forty seven

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years old.

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So when my daughter started, when she started school, she

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was going through homeschooling, and my ex wife and I

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have separated. When I when I'm in my current wife,

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my stepson was already in second and third grade.

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So this is my first foray into this universe. And

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I thought I'd be like, that'd be cool cooler about

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it but uh no, Like we got to school and

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you can walk them to class. You can walk them

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to the classroom.

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We sit there, there's some poor little boys sitting in

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front of the door crying because his mom and dad

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had just left.

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And Sammy's just like look at him, like, what's up

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with you? Man? Like why are you crying? And Mom

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and I are there and Mom kneels down. I'mm a

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hugget a kiss, and the teacher goes, hey, do you

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guys want to get a picture? Before you know? He

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goes in the classroom and we look over and Sammy like, hey, man,

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you want to get picture. He's like, nope, I'm good.

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Wow walked into class and I was like all right.

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And so Mom and I both as we were walking

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out through tears coming to her eyes, and uh yeah.

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It's very emotional because for both of us, this is

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the last kid we're going to have that goes to kindergarten.

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And we got in the car to leave, and I

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looked at I said, well, this is the last one

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for us, but guess what's gonna happen. She goes what

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I said, when the grandkids come, I'm doing this again

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with the grandkids.

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So I don't I don't know where they're going to

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be at, but I'm gonna be there for first day

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of kindergarten for the grand kid.

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So to tie it all line of professional wrestling in

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summer Stam weekend, was your reaction of sadness one that

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was more Rhea Ripley or more Damian Priest.

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Oh that's ooh, well, see Dami was more betrayal. They're

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both betrayal. So I don't know if they really tie

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into it. It's more like.

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Did your Mascar run like like Rhea a little bit?

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To me, it would be more like, you know, when

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Ray and Dominic had their first tag match at WrestleMania,

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feeling like Ray like, look at where my kids at.

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How proud you would be like that kind of moment,

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just choked up, just super happy and proud of seeing

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Then when you get a note from the teacher every

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day one they're like, Sammy Franklin is such a sweetheart,

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can't wait to see how much he grows this year.

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And I took that more mental growth in our physical growth,

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because Lord knows, I don't need to get other kids

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older than me. Like just makes you really proud to

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be thinking like, Okay, I've created a really good.

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Person so far.

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Interesting you you tied it back to a very good

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professional arrest lane analogy there. I like the team match

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from WrestleMania. It's you and Sammy and your jackets, paying

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homage to Eddie Guerrero and his former tag team partner

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and doing the damn thing for the first day of kindergarten.

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So I'm sure at some point we will have a

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custody of Sammy Franklin ladder match at some point in

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my wrestling career. So and that's Summer flam.

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Esque as well.

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There you go, There you go, all tied in there,

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doctor Trey dropping his son off, young Sammy Franklin, our

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Royal Rumble analysts. He's like our Melchiper junior to the

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NFL Draft, he would be our Royal Rumble analyst, and

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now he is. He's in kindergarten. I'm hopeful Doctor Trey

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that come Royal Rumble like that. He doesn't Hollywood US now,

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like he's still okay with doing the Royal Rumble predictions

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like he's done every year with his toys.

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Well, he did get really excited on Monday, or was Tuesday.

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Tuesday we went to the store and he had kind

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of not been picking WW wrestlers for his new toys

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for a little bit. Uh, but he came across a

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million Dollar Man action figure and picked it out.

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So because he had the it was the green suited

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one with the money symbols on it. He got really

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excited about it. Uh And I did too, because Debiosis

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one of the first guys I ever saw wrestle in

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person when I was about Sammy's age. So, uh, you know,

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I think he's adding to his collection and preparation for

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the Royal Rumbles so he could do more prognostication.

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Tuned that That is not something I've read right now

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where the million Dollar Man ted TOBIASI could potentially win

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the Royal Rumble.

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Yeah, I mean money talks.

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I mean everybody's got a price, and so apparently, you know,

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I mean obviously Vince had a price because he we

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sold WW to TKO. So I mean, if if the

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million Dollar Man showed up and the money was right,

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I'm sure Adam Pierceky dropped him in at number thirty

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and just see the chips fall.

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It's so funny that, like thirty years later that the

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term million dollar man is like, I guess what would

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have been like the thousand dollars man back in the

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eighties at this point because people are just we're not

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talking millions anymore. We're in the billions with a bee.

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So there you go. Lots going on in the world

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outside of SRTU here on this week's edition. My son

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not in kindergarten. He's he's sleeping somewhere right now, hopefully

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and not screaming. I'm looking for the day where he

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makes in an appearance on the show verbally by just

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yelling whether it's a typer change or he's hungry. So

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stay tuned for that. But let's get into SummerSlam. Doctor Trey.

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He actually watched it with me for a little bit,

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sat down, watched it for a little bit. Then he

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got fussy. He got really upset when the whole Ria

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Live Morgan dominic stuff went down, and then he went

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to bed pretty quickly after that. He just couldn't take

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it anymore. So let's getting the SummerSlam recap review this

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past Saturday from Cleveland Brown Stadium in Cleveland, Ohio. The

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first match here Live Morgan defeats Rheo Ripley to retain

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the Women's World Championship. We both had Live Morgan in

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this one. Dom has finally turned on Rihada Ripley and

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a line was Live Morgan after an incredible build over

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the last several months. This was a really good match,

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and I enjoyed how liv Morgan was booked in this

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match prior to Dom's interference. I liked that the interference

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that led to the pin wasn't completely known at the

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time if it was accidental or purposely done until they

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had Dom pick up Live for the kiss. Great stuff

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here in the build and the actual match itself. I

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really enjoy this one is Live Morgan defeat Reader Ripley,

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Doctor Trey. Yeah.

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I really liked it on two parts. A.

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You know, it kind of solidified Rhea as a babyface

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because you don't you don't do the lethal weapon relocate

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the shoulder for a heel, you do that for a

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badass baby face, and we kind of saw that twice

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in the match. I also liked it because the show

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once again lives a main eventor like lives super good

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in the ring. She can tell a story, her facials

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are phenomenal, so just really really kill her. Opening match

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between two. I mean this is you know, you have

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a big powerhouse and a one hundred and ten pound

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woman going at it, and you have a compelling matchup.

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So it was a good storytelling, good end, and we.

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Had a heel turn even more heel, which is something

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you really don't see a professional wrestling, So it was

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great for everybody involved there.

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I really enjoyed this one. It was a great way

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to kick off the show. And this is what we discussed,

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right Doctor Trey. We felt that one of the two

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Judgment Day matches was more than likely going to kick

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off the show, and we felt that if Cody, which

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we'll get to you later on, and Solo we're closing

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the show, that there would be a bigger domino piece

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to fall. Once I saw this take place and like, okay,

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we're going to see that Judgment Day implosion taking shape

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here at SummerSlam.

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Yeah, and even the payoff on Monday was really well

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don which I'm sure we'll get to a little bit later,

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but yeah, it kind of laid out almost exactly like

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we kind of thought it was, with you have the

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first Judgment Day turn leading into the implosion later on.

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So yeah, it although we predicted it.

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It was still good storytelling and to see it come

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to fruition on TV was really satisfying.

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And what I really liked about this is they didn't

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ignore the behind the scenes stuff with a Judgment Day.

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So you have in between I think this match and

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the next one on which was Brown Breaker and Sammy Zain,

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you have Damien Priest going into the Judgment Day locker

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room being like what the hell was that about? I

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think it was right after this match. It may have

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been after the Intercomital title match, but it was definitely

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early on the show. Did Finn know about this? JD

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and Carlito We're gonna go look for domb Nobody could

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get a hold of dumb. So you still had this

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like quasi, you know, how is Damien taking this news?

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How is the Judgment Day taking this news? And I

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really really appreciated w creative doing that. Doubt true because

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I think that helped further along the storyline taking place

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within the show.

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Yeah, and not to mention, it also helped set up

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Damien's match with Gunther where like Finn's like, look, I'll

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handle this. You need to focus on your match. I

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know you said you don't need me, but if you do,

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I'll be there for you that it does. So it's

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still kind of foreshadowed there, but like you said, it's

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one of those little small things in wrestling, and you

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know this is one of things to be knock aw about.

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Is something just happened in the ring. When you go

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back stage, don't ignore it. Tie it all together and

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create your storyline. So like, even though, like I said earlier,

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like we kind of knew, like you and I had

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an idea of how the show is going to play out,

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it's still great storytelling to see it actually play out

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on TV the way it should.

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The next match, who was bron Breaker defeating Sammy's Ain

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to win the WI Interccount Little Championship. We both had

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bron Breaker and this one putting the town on Braun

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was the right calls. Braun needs this title to elevate

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his career in a time for Sammy to enter the

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main event picture, as he is someone I could see

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winning the world. They have a wait championship over the

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next six to twelve months, I would say right now

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an early favorite for me to potentially win the Royal

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Rumbull in twenty twenty five. Going back to Young Sammy

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Franklin discussion earlier on the show, The biggest surprise here

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was how short this match was. To me, I would

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love to see an Intercontinental title picture led by bron

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Breaker and Ely dragging off for the rest of the

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year moving forward. There have been kind of inklings that

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that may be the case onto the time part. It

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later was revealed, I think maybe from Frightful Select a

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couple of days later, that this match had ten minutes

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a LOTT and it went shorter than the ten minutes,

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which is rare in wrestling. So I don't know what

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was going on there from the timing sense of things,

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but bron Breaker, as you knew Intercontinental Champion Doctor Try.

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Yeah, a little surprising on the time because the previous

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pla their match was much longer and a little more

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you know, build for both guys, and this one kind

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of I don't It wasn't squashous, but it was just

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very very quick. I kind of want to see a

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little bit more, especially if you're going to move Sammy

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on to something else, whether it's the Judgment day stuff

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or into the main event title picture. I honestly was

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surprised that he wasn't Dump's challenger for Germany coming up,

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But yeah, I.

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Just felt like it was a little short, a little rushed.

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Great because he says a really good Frankensteiner though on

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that match, So just it was good, but it could

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have been much better.

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It's definitely not one of the better matchups they've had.

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Agreed, No, the Money in the Bank match was much

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better than what we saw at SummerSlam over the weekend.

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I really enjoyed that one, and I like the back

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and forth. This was just Braun basically dominating Samy's Ain,

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which was really surprising. But again, I think it's one

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of those things where it's like, this is we're taking

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Sammy out of the upper mid card, mid card however

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you want to look at it, and we need to

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elevate him now to the main event title picture. Plus,

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I think Sammy plays a role in what we see

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at the end of the show with the Cody Rhodes

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solo Soakoa match, because I think what you're seeing on

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Raw take place with the interactions with Jay Usso and

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Sammy Zain is part of a longer term play as well,

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and their potential roles heading here into the rest of

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twenty twenty four. Next match, Doctor Trey is La Knight

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defeating Logan Paul to win the w United States Championship.

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Logan Pol you at La Night. It was time for

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La Night to be crowning Singles Champion WI and it

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was time for Logan Pol to drop the United States

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Championship as well. Fun back and forth match that had

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some really good chemistry between these two guys. I would

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love to see at La Night Logan Paul rematch, but

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I wonder if this means we will see Logan off

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at WE Television for a bit. The I hate to

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use the word botched because they ended up saving it

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as a top rope brainbuster, which is absurd to say

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out loud. But the superplex that wasn't a superplex that

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was a brainbuster, I guess actually shook up Logan Paul

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a bit that I watched it in a livetime scare

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the crap out of me as it was happening, Like

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it was one of those like you couldn't watch it,

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but you had to watch it to see what happened.

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This was a good one. Doctor Trey La Night finally

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gets to each Singles Championship in wa Man.

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We got an MJ MGK sighting, which I don't think

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we've seen him since he got power bombed off the stage.

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Am I wrong?

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On that?

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Was that the first?

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I think this was the first time since the whole

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Kevin Owen stuff. Yeah, I was. I was thrilled the

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MGK was back, and so was the crowd. They would

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nut not really.

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I was just like, wow, okay, so we're just gonna

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pull out every random person? Okay, yeah, great? But uh

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yeah it was.

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It was a fine match and there, like, the chemistry

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was pretty solid. They had their good moments. The top

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rope super flex slash, Brainbuster slash, I don't know, one

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of the few times we've seen maybe a misstep by

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Logan Paul in his young career. Then the Raymisterio spot

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from a was a rest snow of a Survivor series

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time somewhere there. But yeah, I mean he's gonna have

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a couple of missteps here and there, but overall, like

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solid US title run and and potentially depending on how

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this whole Bloodline thing shakes out, I mean, he could

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be one of the people in line that challenged Cody

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once solo and the Bloodline transition off to somebody else.

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Cody needs challengers, and they already had one good match,

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and it would make sense to put him back into

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that pictures. So good for in great for Alla Night,

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because this was a make or break for me.

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I think you heard Corey Graves.

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Mentioned it on the on the team that you know

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he's had all this momentum for the better part of

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a year and a half. If they didn't strike now,

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I didn't think they were going to do it. So

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it was gonna see them playing pull the trigger and

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put a title on LA nine.

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Next match here is Nia Jacks defeeding Bailey to win

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the W Women's Championship. We both had Bailey in this one.

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This puts an end to an unfortunately underwhelming title run

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for Bailey, as Nia Jacks, who has had some really

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good creative and billed as of late, is the new

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w Women's Champion. Ni holding the title could potentially save

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Bailey's twenty twenty fourth They decide to still have her

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be the babyface and I a seal character moving forward.

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The underwhelming run for Bailey is totally not her fault.

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The creative just hasn't been there, and I wonder if

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fans had a tough time connecting with this version of

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Bailey turning babyface after her really really good heel run.

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I still think that hugger Bailey should return once she

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turned baby face, but that's just me. Nia is the

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new WA Women's Champion. They tease a cash in to

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distract Bailey, which was really good match creative stuff as well.

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Your thoughts here, doctor Trey's nay Jack's is your new

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women's champ.

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So we've been doing this show for a very long time,

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and Naya has been one of my most heavily criticized

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performers during this run, but the last this second run

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of hers, has been so good. And I'm going to

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point out where I actually enjoy watching Naya in the ring.

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There are still moments where it feels like, Okay, that

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might be a little dangerous, but the stuff when she's

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talking trash in the ring is so good. You know,

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like there's a spot in there where she was just

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hammering on Bailey and yelling out, you know, calling me reckless,

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calling me dangerous, like all those things like that.

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I really enjoy that.

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And so to me, this is the right move for

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them because you have the Tiffany characters kind of the underling.

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This is in a way kind of setting have like

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the Tony Storm Mariah May stuff that we saw in

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aw where you have a champion with an underling. At

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some point, the underling has a reason to turn on

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you know, her, her leege, her person that she's following.

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So I'm really anxious to see how well this plays out.

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And you know, Hugger Bailey, uh would be great. And

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we saw tassels on Bailey's outfit and I don't know

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if you've known that when she's coming downs like she's

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got the little streamer tassels going on. We haven't really

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seen that since the Hugger days. So maybe this is

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a little foreshadowing that eventually we will.

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Get more of the full blowed old school Bailey babyface character.

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Yeah, it's it's been. It's been a disappointing run. It's

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it's unfortunate. She's very, very likable, a great in ring worker,

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one of our favorite wrestlers we've covered here in the

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history of the podcast. I just think it was a

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really hard transition Doctor Trevor people to accept that heel

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character of Bailey as a babyface. It's it just felt

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like it never really transitioned well from turning her heel

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back to babyface. I would have liked to see in

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a little bit more here, And I think that Hugger

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Bailey era is ones that the fans are kind of

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clamoring for because it's been like five years at this point.

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Yeah, I mean, it's really hard to take somebody who

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was so despised and turned them babyface even though they

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did the beat down angle, but the character of Bailey

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didn't really change. It was still basically the same music,

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her still calling herself a role model. It didn't really

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change it all. So it's really hard for fans to go, oh,

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I really like her now she's changed when she didn't

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really change it all.

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So it's kind of hard to really get that audience

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behind you in that role.

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Yeah, I totally agree. It was the character never really

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did anything that was like, I I'm sorry for everything

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that I did. I mean, she was such a good

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heel character during that five year run almost that it

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was like, I think she needed to mend a couple

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of fences because she was so damn good with the

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fan base. And it really occurred because the fans want

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her to be Babyface. It's just the character was such

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a really good heel. Next match here is Drew McIntire

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defeating cmpunk with Seth Freakin Rollins a special guest referee.

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We both had Drew McIntyre the fact that a friendship

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bracelet with his wife and the dog's name on it

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truly costs cmpunk. This match was interesting booking. I can

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partially get behind that due to symbolism, and I can

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partially get behind it being totally ridiculous as well. I

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really like how the an announcers pumped up that Seampunk's

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anger basically got in the wave and winning the match.

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I had high expectations for this match, and I feel

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like the execution may have felt a little flat. This

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has been my favorite w FU this year so far,

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and I was hoping for a little more on Saturday night.

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This did not mean it was a bad match by

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any means. I was just hoping for a holy shit,

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that was a great, that was great moment and they

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and instead focused a lot on a friendship bracelet. And

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I know Triple H called this match a masterpiece. Again,

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there's symbolism, but there I just have a tough time

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as a thirty eight year old male to get behind

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the symbolism, meaning thoughts of this friendship bracelet being the

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cause of so much angst and anger between the two

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of them, Doctor Trey. It is borderline silly, but it's

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also borderline makes sense. It's a very weird spot for

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me as a fan of be In. So that's where

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I'm standing on a theentire thing. Your thoughts on this one, Yeah,

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it's real.

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Like so the match itself, everything leading up to the finish.

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I enjoyed the match.

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I mean, this is probably the best Punk has looked

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in quite some time. I mean this is his first

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match back, and you know what, nine months, ten months,

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I can't remember how long it's been since.

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He's actually been in WW since he left the aw

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but he looked really good in this match.

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The symbolism behind the friendship bracelet, as you as you

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call it, I love it because Larry may be the

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most divisive dog in the history of modern sports. I

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mean he literally cause this owner to basically kind of

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get fired for one job, and now he causes owner

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a match at SummerSlam because of how much his owner

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loves him. So Larry maybe not be the best dog

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in the world or at at the very least the

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worst good luck charm or maybe the worst man's best

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friend in quite some time. I get it on the

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sense of the way it played out, because I thought

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it was very clever how they did it, how the

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bracelet came off. Seth being the ref just does what

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the ref does and picks it up and instead of

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just tossing it to.

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The corner, put it on.

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And because of everything that had let into it before,

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with Seth saying I hate you, I hate you, calling

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you down the middle, and a couple other things going

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on the match, when he sees it on the wrist,

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he's like, oh crap, you're actually with Drew or you're

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siding with Drew against him. So I kind of understood

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the simpleness, but you're absolutely right as a grown ass

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man to kind of like, go, this whole match ended

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over this bracelet.

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You know, it is what it is.

472
00:23:01.640 --> 00:23:03.319
You can also blame Triple H because if your no

473
00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:06.440
is Triple H and I do the same thing, where's

474
00:23:06.440 --> 00:23:09.079
a lot of bracelets. So maybe that was his kind

475
00:23:09.079 --> 00:23:10.720
of thing, like I love my bracelet. So it makes

476
00:23:10.720 --> 00:23:12.920
a lot of sense that this could cost somebody a

477
00:23:13.000 --> 00:23:15.839
match of SummerSlam. It is a weird way to kind

478
00:23:15.880 --> 00:23:21.559
of end this match, but I'm excited for what happened

479
00:23:21.559 --> 00:23:25.039
on Raw with the interactions leading into so it's like, Okay,

480
00:23:25.079 --> 00:23:27.240
we might get a rerun of this and then sets

481
00:23:27.319 --> 00:23:30.319
off on something else now to to kind of take

482
00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:32.519
him out of the picture. So maybe the next match

483
00:23:32.599 --> 00:23:35.400
they'll just do the bracelet on a pole match that

484
00:23:35.480 --> 00:23:36.359
we're all clamoring for.

485
00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:41.279
Yeah, it's it's a really it's a really tough thing

486
00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:43.920
for a guy my age to be like, oh my god,

487
00:23:44.039 --> 00:23:47.119
put that bracelet down, you son of a bitch. Like

488
00:23:47.640 --> 00:23:49.880
I can find I could be relatable to.

489
00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:52.559
This if it was a wedding ring, you know, which

490
00:23:52.839 --> 00:23:55.319
I think we've seen that done before. But if it

491
00:23:55.400 --> 00:23:57.839
was the wedding ring, like that would have a little

492
00:23:57.880 --> 00:23:59.839
more impact on you, though, could I mean, because you're

493
00:23:59.880 --> 00:24:01.839
a married man, I'm a married man. You and I

494
00:24:01.960 --> 00:24:04.160
both have dogs that we absolutely love. We just don't

495
00:24:04.200 --> 00:24:07.359
have bracelets with our wife and dog's name on it.

496
00:24:08.039 --> 00:24:10.640
But you know, if somebody stole your wedding ring, was

497
00:24:10.720 --> 00:24:12.920
taunting you at the wedding ring, that would be a

498
00:24:12.920 --> 00:24:14.000
little more impactful, right.

499
00:24:14.559 --> 00:24:16.680
Well, you know what I thought, I agree with what

500
00:24:16.759 --> 00:24:19.200
you're saying, I'll answer that part. Yes, I think that

501
00:24:19.279 --> 00:24:22.599
would be more relatable to most people than the friendship bracelet,

502
00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:27.039
I will say. And this kind of maybe leads us

503
00:24:27.200 --> 00:24:33.160
onto where aj Lee's current thoughts on a reigniting her

504
00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:36.200
wrestling career is. I think some sort of segment leading

505
00:24:36.279 --> 00:24:38.160
into this where you know, Punk's in the ring, the

506
00:24:38.160 --> 00:24:40.759
classic w segment, punks in the ring kind of promo,

507
00:24:41.319 --> 00:24:44.599
and they cut via satellite or you know, Drew McIntyre's

508
00:24:44.640 --> 00:24:47.319
on his cell phone facetiming into w WEE or whatever,

509
00:24:47.880 --> 00:24:51.480
and he's entering the home apartment wherever seem Punk and

510
00:24:51.559 --> 00:24:55.440
aj Lee live in Chicago, Illinois. And that right there,

511
00:24:55.519 --> 00:24:57.759
you've got Larry in the in the in the mix,

512
00:24:57.880 --> 00:24:59.519
You've got aj Lee in the mix, and you've got

513
00:24:59.559 --> 00:25:02.799
like this really cool, subtle way of welcoming her back

514
00:25:02.839 --> 00:25:04.960
to WE Television for the first time in nearly ten

515
00:25:05.039 --> 00:25:07.920
years to help promote this storyline. And I thought that

516
00:25:08.279 --> 00:25:10.079
would have been a little bit more impactful. And maybe

517
00:25:10.119 --> 00:25:12.200
that's where I get behind it, because the fact that

518
00:25:12.279 --> 00:25:15.400
you don't see aj Lee and you don't see Larry

519
00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:19.680
involved in storyline is it's a little bit strange. I mean,

520
00:25:19.720 --> 00:25:23.559
they don't even run vignettes. It's just the friendship bracelet's

521
00:25:23.599 --> 00:25:26.200
the only thing. And it's like crazy to me that

522
00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:29.279
that's like what's driving so much to anger for seeing

523
00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:30.160
Punk of all people.

524
00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:33.000
It's a little bit of one thing we used to

525
00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:36.079
knock aw for, which was they would run promos on

526
00:25:36.200 --> 00:25:38.079
being or they would run stuff on being the Elite

527
00:25:39.000 --> 00:25:42.960
and put it on and then go to the angle

528
00:25:43.039 --> 00:25:45.440
on television and people like us that didn't watch that show, like,

529
00:25:45.720 --> 00:25:47.920
I don't really get this. In a lot of ways,

530
00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:51.119
they're kind of banking on the hardcore wrestling fans to

531
00:25:51.279 --> 00:25:55.119
hey know who aj Lee is be understand the relationship

532
00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:58.240
of seeing Punk and his dog to really get this

533
00:25:58.440 --> 00:26:00.720
over because you know, for a lot of that maybe

534
00:26:00.759 --> 00:26:02.920
don't know all the history. They're just like it's a

535
00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:05.319
bracelet at about a guy's wife and his dog, and

536
00:26:05.440 --> 00:26:08.200
it's this much animosity, Like it is crazy. But I

537
00:26:08.440 --> 00:26:10.839
don't know if they can go the well with you know,

538
00:26:11.039 --> 00:26:13.079
Drew breaking into the house, because we've seen that with

539
00:26:13.720 --> 00:26:15.640
you know, Seth and Edge. We saw that with Dexter

540
00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:19.359
Loomis in the Mint and this just Oronton.

541
00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:22.279
We saw with Samoa with Joe and AJ you know,

542
00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:23.559
so like we see him like the only.

543
00:26:23.480 --> 00:26:25.440
Thing I could think of AJ styles in La Night.

544
00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:28.519
Yeah, if you want to go deep down the rabbit hole,

545
00:26:29.079 --> 00:26:31.519
maybe uh drew back and tire feeds Larry to see

546
00:26:31.559 --> 00:26:31.960
him Punk.

547
00:26:32.400 --> 00:26:36.400
Oh God, big boss man, I'll snow all the greatest

548
00:26:36.440 --> 00:26:37.920
feuds in the world of professional wrestling.

549
00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:38.160
Yeah.

550
00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:41.319
I don't know. Match was good again, I just thought

551
00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:45.000
so much being pertained to this friendship brace that was

552
00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:48.160
like obsurred to me. However, after SummerSlam, I found it

553
00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:51.400
very funny. I think the actual person who so an

554
00:26:51.400 --> 00:26:54.920
actual fan, gave this friendship bracelet to see him Punk,

555
00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:58.559
and I think either like a meet and greet during

556
00:26:58.599 --> 00:27:01.519
WrestleMania weekend or something along those lines. There's there's the

557
00:27:01.599 --> 00:27:04.160
picture out there, and I think she tweeted for some

558
00:27:04.319 --> 00:27:08.480
reason Slim Jim because that's my go to is. I'm

559
00:27:08.519 --> 00:27:11.359
almost positive she tweeted Slim Jim. I hope, well, I actually,

560
00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:14.160
I also hope I'm wrong in this looking for like

561
00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:17.079
some sort of compensation to be involved, Like the reason

562
00:27:17.119 --> 00:27:20.359
why this is this feud taking place is because of

563
00:27:20.400 --> 00:27:23.680
her friendship bracelet. And I found that funny. I mean,

564
00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:25.519
if I were her, I would be capitalizing on this

565
00:27:25.640 --> 00:27:29.079
and selling them on Etsy like like money makers right now.

566
00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:32.160
But I had no idea that an actual fan made

567
00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:34.640
this friendship bracelet for her for cmpunk, So I found

568
00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:35.960
that incredibly funny as well.

569
00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:39.519
Yeah, I didn't know that either, but it reminds me of.

570
00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:44.759
Kyle Yuex wife that made a couple of jackets and

571
00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:46.319
then all of a sudden it took off her in

572
00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:48.759
the NFL playoffs last year, and now she has a

573
00:27:49.519 --> 00:27:51.920
whole business out of it, which then allowed the Niners

574
00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:52.680
to cut his pay.

575
00:27:53.240 --> 00:27:56.400
Oh perfect, I mean that's that's typical for businesses. So yeah,

576
00:27:56.440 --> 00:27:58.519
there you go, Dream mcintar cmpunk. I think we've kind

577
00:27:58.559 --> 00:28:02.759
of run that one in the ground. Two guys in

578
00:28:02.880 --> 00:28:05.160
their older ages of life having a tough time wrapping

579
00:28:05.160 --> 00:28:07.880
their heads around the friendship bracelet being the reason why

580
00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:10.200
there was so much animosity and angs during this match.

581
00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:13.000
Next match, Year has gun through defeating Damien Priest to

582
00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:14.799
win the World of Weight Championship. We both had gone

583
00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:17.319
through in this one. The Junk to Day implosion has

584
00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:20.319
finally happened as Finn Baler turns on Damian Priest. The

585
00:28:20.359 --> 00:28:23.200
WrestleMania fifteen scenario I discussed on last week's podcast, took

586
00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:26.039
place on Saturday Night All Bit with some questions still

587
00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:27.839
love to be asked coming out of the show. The

588
00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:29.960
final ten minutes of this match was fun and compelling.

589
00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:33.480
The slap test was insane or slapfesticscas who was insane

590
00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:36.079
Between Gunthor and Priest. Go Through becoming a World champion

591
00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:37.920
WWE has been long overdue, and I expect this to

592
00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:39.359
be a pretty decent run at the top of the

593
00:28:39.400 --> 00:28:42.079
World of Weight Championship. We'll get into that a little

594
00:28:42.079 --> 00:28:44.039
bit more later on the show, but Gone Through defeats

595
00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:46.759
Damien Priest. Finn Balor turns on Damien Doctor Try.

596
00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:47.599
Yeah.

597
00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:50.359
I actually really enjoyed this match, and part of it

598
00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:54.160
was the growth of Damien Priest and did the character

599
00:28:54.240 --> 00:28:57.920
development is facials Also just size wise, I'm looking at

600
00:28:57.920 --> 00:28:59.519
this guy in the ring, I'm like, man, I sometimes

601
00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:02.799
you forget how big he is at times because he

602
00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:05.519
was bigger than Gunther and you go back to those

603
00:29:05.640 --> 00:29:07.960
NXTQUK days and Guther looked like it. Guncher looked like

604
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:10.640
a monster, and you're like, damn, Damian Priest is a legit,

605
00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:15.880
like six ' eighth orderline three hundred pounders. So this

606
00:29:16.039 --> 00:29:18.319
match is overall was it was really good. The ending

607
00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:18.799
was good.

608
00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:22.400
They just this to match the media Like It's not

609
00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:25.640
Match of the Year candidate, but just if.

610
00:29:25.559 --> 00:29:28.960
You're looking for like what a good solid screw job

611
00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:32.920
finish match should be, this is like the prototype. It

612
00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:35.720
was legitimizing a guy as a baby face getting another

613
00:29:35.759 --> 00:29:40.200
guy over as a heel. The betrayal, the animosity, I mean,

614
00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:42.759
that moment when he dove through the ropes and grabbed

615
00:29:43.160 --> 00:29:47.519
fin By the throat was really good. The only thing,

616
00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:49.279
my only knock on it was like fin still with

617
00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:53.000
his back to Damien for almost too long selling the turn.

618
00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:55.400
I think he thought the fish was coming a little

619
00:29:55.400 --> 00:29:57.160
bit quicker than that. But outside of that, man, this

620
00:29:57.400 --> 00:30:01.640
was just a really really solid world title match with

621
00:30:01.759 --> 00:30:02.799
a screw job finish.

622
00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:05.279
Yeah. Great facials by Finn Balen this one as well.

623
00:30:05.359 --> 00:30:06.720
That told the hell of a lot of story, which

624
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:09.240
he's always been very very good with that. So more

625
00:30:09.319 --> 00:30:12.359
on the Judgment Day implosion later on here in the podcast.

626
00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:14.599
Let's get to the next match here. Doctor Trying was

627
00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:17.079
the main event. Cody Rhodes defeats Sosikoa to retain the

628
00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:20.720
m speed a w Championship in a blood Line rules

629
00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:24.000
match that was announced on Friday's addition to Smackdann conductor

630
00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:26.599
Trayner recorded Cody Rhodes was the pick that we both

631
00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:29.880
had in this match. The best worst thing WWE did

632
00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:32.839
was make this a Bloodline rules match. The reason why

633
00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:34.960
I say this is because I love the Wrestlemanting forty

634
00:30:35.000 --> 00:30:38.359
Bloodline rules match in the Summer Slam. Bloodline rules match

635
00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:42.000
immediately had some massive shoes to fill, which they obviously

636
00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:45.079
did not do due to the lack of substantial cameos

637
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:49.319
like the Wrestlemanting forty match had. However, once the Bloodline

638
00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:52.160
rules stipulation was announced on SmackDown, I knew that Roman

639
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:54.160
Rangs was coming back, and what a return it was.

640
00:30:54.680 --> 00:30:56.799
The Roman Reigns return was a lot of fun, and

641
00:30:56.920 --> 00:31:00.200
him helping Cody was a great win. Was a great moment. Also,

642
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:02.720
shout out to w foreving Jacob Fatu sell an ankle

643
00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:05.519
leg injury because that made sense as to why he

644
00:31:05.519 --> 00:31:09.160
couldn't defend Solo from Roman Reins. I know there's been

645
00:31:09.240 --> 00:31:12.160
reports out there that it was legitimate and not legitimate,

646
00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:14.240
and that was the plan all along. And they did

647
00:31:14.279 --> 00:31:16.240
that because they don't want Jacob Fattou and Roman Rains

648
00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:18.680
to touch right now, and they want to save that

649
00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:23.079
for down the line. Where Cody goes from here is

650
00:31:23.160 --> 00:31:26.079
going to be very interesting. I feel like they've been

651
00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:28.279
teasing a match feud with Randy Orton for some time.

652
00:31:28.359 --> 00:31:31.480
But where the bloodline solo so Coo of Roman Rains

653
00:31:31.519 --> 00:31:32.920
goes from here, it will be a lot of fun

654
00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:35.519
and has me excited for a new chapter. If I

655
00:31:35.640 --> 00:31:39.720
had anything about this that I felt like was a

656
00:31:39.799 --> 00:31:42.799
bit off, Doctor Trey Is and I had tweeted this

657
00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:45.720
out earlier this week as well. If they were going

658
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:48.799
to change Roman Reigns's music, they should have saved it

659
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:51.279
for Friday's edition and SmackDown and had them come out

660
00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:55.440
to his old now old music at SummerSlam, because I think,

661
00:31:55.680 --> 00:31:57.200
because this is how I felt, I think there was

662
00:31:57.200 --> 00:31:59.359
a little bit of confusion as if this was was

663
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:01.680
this going to be Roman Reigns, And if it wasn't

664
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:03.640
for the head of the table graphic all over the

665
00:32:03.640 --> 00:32:06.599
place the Roman Reigns out of the table graphic, I

666
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:09.039
would have never known if he was coming back. So

667
00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:12.359
I felt like they kind of missed it. Was a

668
00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:15.519
very very very good pop. I felt like it could

669
00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:19.279
have been a massive, so much bigger pop if it

670
00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:23.599
was the now old Roman Reigns music. Nonetheless, Cody Roads

671
00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:27.839
defeat Sela Soakoa and the original Tribal Chief is back.

672
00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:33.359
Yeah. So I like this match for most of it.

673
00:32:33.480 --> 00:32:35.039
The only thing I didn't like is once we got

674
00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:38.119
into I mean, because they went probably with fifteen minutes

675
00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:40.880
before anybody got involved, fifteen almost twenty minutes for anybody

676
00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:43.079
got involved in this match. It is that once people

677
00:32:43.119 --> 00:32:48.880
got involved, Solo really didn't do much and basically kind

678
00:32:48.920 --> 00:32:51.599
of stayed down for most that finished with their way

679
00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:53.160
kind of getting coming in getting.

680
00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:55.559
Involved, which I thought made him look a little week.

681
00:32:55.559 --> 00:32:58.480
At least, Roman was still kind of getting up during

682
00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:00.720
his match. But then once again, that's who's been doing

683
00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:04.079
this for fifteen years versus a guy that's really in

684
00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:06.920
his first May Solo main event.

685
00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:11.880
No pun intended. You're right on the Roman thing.

686
00:33:11.960 --> 00:33:14.559
The other thing I didn't like about it was maybe

687
00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:18.920
don't have Solo talk trash about Roman leading into the match,

688
00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:23.000
and then when Roman comes out, then he has that

689
00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:25.839
moment in the ring where Solo's standing there and Cody's

690
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:28.920
standing there, and then he makes the move on Solo.

691
00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:32.200
When he rushed in and Solo fed right to him,

692
00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:35.000
You're like, oh, okay, this is where we're going that

693
00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:39.599
having that momentary pause where Roman, you know, you're kind

694
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:41.119
of questioning who's he going after?

695
00:33:41.279 --> 00:33:42.440
Is it going to be Cody or Solo?

696
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:44.640
I think could have made it even more impactful and

697
00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:47.799
made that pop on the first ram punch even bigger.

698
00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:51.440
But all in all, I am excited for where this

699
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:54.240
goes with Roman and maybe the og blood line, the

700
00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:59.400
new blood line. We love you and I are old school,

701
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:02.720
we love faction warfare like this. I mean, this is

702
00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:05.000
the right up our alley. And it does kind of

703
00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:07.119
leave a question, and once again with Cody is like, Okay,

704
00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:11.000
we understand he's the face of the company, but he's

705
00:34:11.079 --> 00:34:14.679
continuously being overshadowed by whatever Roman's doing.

706
00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:18.880
How do you correct? How do you course correct?

707
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:21.039
If you want Cody to be the face of the

708
00:34:21.079 --> 00:34:23.800
company and he's being overshadowed by Romans, especially if they'll

709
00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:26.639
still end up on SmackDown, Cody's continually going to be

710
00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:29.239
overshadowed by whatever Roman the bloodline do.

711
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:32.400
So that does make me a little nervous for the

712
00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:33.480
direction of Cody Road.

713
00:34:33.880 --> 00:34:38.639
Cody needs some good creative right now. I agree with you,

714
00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:42.440
he needs some really good, impactful creative because there's so

715
00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:45.360
many different, really good feuds that are going on in

716
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:50.199
Wa right now that he It's like it's exposing the

717
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:52.719
creative there. And maybe this is a SmackDown thing because

718
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:55.079
I thought the Bailey and Iya Jack's build was not

719
00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:56.920
that great and it did not get a lot of

720
00:34:57.000 --> 00:34:59.000
attention going into the pay per view. I felt less

721
00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:02.360
comparable to the others. The raw feuds were getting a

722
00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:05.280
lot more attention and a lot more care for me

723
00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:08.159
as a fan. I mean, Real Live is a better

724
00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:12.360
feud right now than anything Cody's been involved with. The

725
00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:15.679
gun thir Damian Priest obviously drew and see him Punk

726
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:18.760
was much better, you know, gun Thor and Randy Orton.

727
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:21.840
I mean, he needs something right now that gets him

728
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:24.760
into it. And I had felt like, and I said

729
00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:26.519
in my response to this was I wrote this pre

730
00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:29.960
Randy Orton challenging gun there to bash of Berlin, which,

731
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:32.440
by the way, I think was really smart on W's

732
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:33.599
part to do that, based on the way that that

733
00:35:33.719 --> 00:35:39.719
King of the Ring match took place. It just comes

734
00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:45.360
off as as strange that he doesn't have anything like

735
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:48.320
emotionally encapsulating right now, and I thought that's where they

736
00:35:48.320 --> 00:35:50.119
could go with Randy Orton, and I just felt like

737
00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:53.559
they would been teasing that a little bit here and there.

738
00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:56.280
There's been a couple of seeds planted, but he needs

739
00:35:56.639 --> 00:35:59.199
he needs substantial heal, not sue you positioned. You know,

740
00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:04.559
you were saying, maybe it's it's logan, Paul, possibly we've

741
00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:08.599
we've been there, done that, but but maybe a betrayal

742
00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:11.360
of the sense of Randy Orton is one that is

743
00:36:11.480 --> 00:36:15.119
necessary as well. The Cody Rhades effect right now is

744
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:17.639
it's interesting. I mean, he's a guy that is in,

745
00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:23.320
you know, Wrestler of the Year conversation, but I don't know,

746
00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:27.280
it's it's he's kind of suffering from we want this

747
00:36:27.400 --> 00:36:29.559
guy to be the world champion. Then when he's world champion,

748
00:36:29.679 --> 00:36:32.159
it's either bad creative or the fans don't care as much,

749
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:33.719
or a mixture of both. And I think he's deal

750
00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:35.440
with both right now. I think there's a mixture of both.

751
00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:38.280
He is definitely the face of the company. I disagree

752
00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:40.440
with you there. I think Cody is the face of

753
00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:42.280
the company. He is the baby face, he is the

754
00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:44.920
John Cena. I just think that he's kind of slipping

755
00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:46.320
a little bit with the adult fans.

756
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:50.039
Yeah well, I mean, I'm not disagree with him being

757
00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:53.719
the face of the company because he's everywhere, But in

758
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:58.840
this situation with Roman returning it, Roman's the top guy.

759
00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:03.280
Roman's the the goat of all things right now, and

760
00:37:03.360 --> 00:37:07.000
he's only been away for five months. So it wasn't

761
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:09.679
like this is not the John Cena coming in part

762
00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:12.559
time role. Where's he's here for three months, gone for

763
00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:14.599
nine or ten or twelve and then back. You know,

764
00:37:14.639 --> 00:37:18.119
he's not that part time yet. It just makes you

765
00:37:18.199 --> 00:37:20.639
nerus because they've spent so much time building up the

766
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:24.079
New blood Line and building up, you know, all that

767
00:37:24.519 --> 00:37:27.719
they really haven't built up anybody else on that brand

768
00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:32.119
as a top heel, like somebody getting hot to potentially

769
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:34.360
challenge Cody, because all their energy has been focused on

770
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:36.119
building up the New blood Line.

771
00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:39.679
That's you. I was hoping for a Randy thing.

772
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:43.599
My only my issue with Randy challenging Gunther was the

773
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:45.320
last time we saw Randy he was taken out by

774
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:49.079
the New blood Line. So wouldn't that Randy Orton wants

775
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:52.960
some revenge on that new blood line or blamed Cody

776
00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:55.480
for being taken out. Instead, they transition him over to

777
00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:59.480
challenging Gunther, which you could have slit Sammy into that

778
00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:03.480
spot based on him winning at WrestleMania and had Randy

779
00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:08.000
turn on Cody, or have Randy challenge Cody just straight.

780
00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:09.280
Up you know for that title.

781
00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:12.239
I mean that there's there's just not This is one

782
00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:14.239
thing that you and I talk about with NXT a lot,

783
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:17.239
is they kind of go in cycles where one side,

784
00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:19.519
like the men's division be really hot, but the women's

785
00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:21.840
divisions down tag teams in the middle. It feels like

786
00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:25.800
with with On SmackDown, they just haven't built up anybody

787
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:30.480
else underneath the bloodline to be a viable challenger for

788
00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:35.519
Cody heading into you know, Survivor series season.

789
00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:38.000
Basically, That's what I was gonna ask you in regards

790
00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:40.719
to the Randy thing, is if they do the Randy direction,

791
00:38:41.280 --> 00:38:43.840
would you be down with just like a straight up

792
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:46.920
respect I want to get back in the world title picture,

793
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:51.159
No real animosity, just a respectful clash between two men.

794
00:38:51.559 --> 00:38:54.559
I don't know, well, I mean it's hard, it's hard

795
00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:59.079
to dislike Randy. Now he's almost in that where it's like,

796
00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:01.079
no matter what he does, people going to cheer.

797
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:01.679
For me because he's rady.

798
00:39:02.159 --> 00:39:03.639
He could do no wrong. I agree with you.

799
00:39:04.519 --> 00:39:05.719
So it's it's tricky.

800
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:07.679
And that's where I said, they just you know, you

801
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:09.920
have the younger guys like the Carmelo, Hayes and some

802
00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:12.800
of those other guys they've you know, put on SmackDown

803
00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:15.679
and you know, the Santos Escobar and guys like that,

804
00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:18.480
but they just haven't built them up, like Carmelo and

805
00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:21.159
Cody had a really great match when Carmelo came on

806
00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:21.840
the main roster.

807
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:24.119
But there's nothing.

808
00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:26.360
I mean, it feels like a huge drop off from

809
00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:28.519
where let's let's say Solo and Logan or your top

810
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:32.519
two heels on SmackDown. It's a huge drop to where

811
00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:35.159
you get to like number three or four. So we're

812
00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:38.079
on Raw, it's a little more consistent throughout the entire show.

813
00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:41.119
I mean, hell, they just made Bronton Reed a borderline

814
00:39:41.519 --> 00:39:44.480
made event guy on Raw Monday Night because of one

815
00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:45.480
interaction with Seth wrong.

816
00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:48.320
And we need somebody to kind of do the same

817
00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:51.760
thing for Cody but also build some credibility up to

818
00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:54.599
make him feel like a viable threat to the world title.

819
00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:56.679
Let me pause that right there, because I think this

820
00:39:56.760 --> 00:39:58.960
could bleed into the next all pun in ten and

821
00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:00.719
bleed into the next top I want to talk about

822
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:02.440
in regards to the bloodline as well, because I do

823
00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:04.679
think Cody potentially plays a role here. Let's get our

824
00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:06.800
paperview prediction out of the way. I went five and two,

825
00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:09.760
Doctrey went six and one. I'm ninety two and twenty

826
00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:11.760
three in the year doct tray eighty four and thirty

827
00:40:11.880 --> 00:40:16.679
one Event night and excuse me, event night, event rating

828
00:40:16.760 --> 00:40:18.800
and Match of the Night. I gave SummerSlam a four

829
00:40:18.880 --> 00:40:20.920
point three out of five, and I gave my Match

830
00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:22.960
the Night to live Morgan Rea Ripley, what say you,

831
00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:23.559
doctor Trey?

832
00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:25.639
I was right there with you as a four point

833
00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:27.199
three and I had Reha live at my Match in

834
00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:27.800
the night as well.

835
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:29.920
Wow, you have it as Match the Night, even though

836
00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:32.440
you said Guntherr and Damian Priest was matched the Year candidate,

837
00:40:33.199 --> 00:40:33.400
it was.

838
00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:36.639
It was the betrayal, the betrayal to kick off the

839
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:38.719
show leading the word like You're like, okay, this is

840
00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:41.280
gonna be a fun night. This is gonna be like

841
00:40:41.400 --> 00:40:44.239
that match was just great storytelling as well, Like it

842
00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:46.920
was really for me, it was one A and one B.

843
00:40:48.159 --> 00:40:49.599
I just like give them the girl some credit every

844
00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:50.920
now and then there you go, there you go.

845
00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:54.199
So let's get into here. How do you want to

846
00:40:54.239 --> 00:40:57.639
see the Roman Range bloodline storyline play out? Now? I

847
00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:01.920
think where the Cody aspect plays into this. I would

848
00:41:01.960 --> 00:41:05.239
not be surprised right now if at Bash in Berlin,

849
00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:08.559
Doctor Trey, we get a tag team match of Cody

850
00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:13.519
Roads and Roman Reigns together taking on Solo Sokoa and

851
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:19.559
let's say Tomatunka. I don't think Jacoba two. I think

852
00:41:19.559 --> 00:41:21.760
they're gonna leave him off of this entire thing. And

853
00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:24.960
you get that match at Bash of Berlin, and maybe

854
00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:28.679
that is where the next member of the New bloodline

855
00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:30.920
comes in, whether it be Hiccoleo who's been rumored to

856
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:34.320
signed with w w W. I think I think maybe

857
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:37.559
like Jacob Fattou's brother that is wrestles in GCW. I

858
00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:39.320
don't know him well. Forgive me if I if I

859
00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:43.159
have the lineage here or name here incorrect, but I

860
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:46.239
could see the bill for the next couple of months,

861
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:50.000
which I think adds to your concern of Cody as well.

862
00:41:50.159 --> 00:41:54.119
I could see Cody Rhoads and Roman Reigns working together here,

863
00:41:54.719 --> 00:41:57.679
which would be intriguing depending on the execution going forward.

864
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:01.360
Yeah, I think that is a routher to go.

865
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:04.159
One of the things that you years ago, I said this,

866
00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:06.400
one of the things I used to miss, uh, that

867
00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:09.760
events kind of got away from the last eight to

868
00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:11.719
ten years of w W was back when as a kid,

869
00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:16.480
you'd have these weird tag matches main event pay per views,

870
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:17.920
and we saw it.

871
00:42:17.960 --> 00:42:21.239
A little bit of where we had WrestleMania.

872
00:42:21.719 --> 00:42:21.960
Yeah.

873
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:25.320
And then we also had you know, Roman and Solo

874
00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:29.440
against Kevin Sammy and won the pay per views last

875
00:42:29.480 --> 00:42:29.960
year as well.

876
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:32.440
I think that was Crown Jewel Crown Jewel, and so.

877
00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:34.039
They have kind of gotten back to that where you

878
00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:38.039
could have Cody and Roman team up. So like Mon

879
00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:42.760
like Friday, I'd love to see you know, Roman come

880
00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:44.519
out confront Solo.

881
00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:47.400
There's a beatdown Cody makes to say, but there's still

882
00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:51.039
that tension there leading to you know, a tag match

883
00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:54.079
at you know Class or Bash of Berlin.

884
00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:56.880
Well the enemy of my enemy, right, Yeah.

885
00:42:57.000 --> 00:43:00.360
And but there's those uncomfortable betfellows too, and you know,

886
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:02.960
like you don't know if Roman's coming for the title.

887
00:43:03.079 --> 00:43:05.159
That was that that one of the things great things

888
00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:06.599
about that match at the end, there was the way

889
00:43:06.679 --> 00:43:09.760
Cody was looking at Roman. You could tell Roman still

890
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:12.639
wants his title. Cody doesn't trust him even though what

891
00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:14.440
he's you know, he just kind of helped him out.

892
00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:19.400
So there's still that tension there going forth. I had

893
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:23.440
loved also if SmackDown kicked off with actually solo ring

894
00:43:23.519 --> 00:43:25.400
and that Paul Hayman comes out. But I don't think

895
00:43:25.400 --> 00:43:26.719
we're gonna see Paul for a little bit.

896
00:43:26.880 --> 00:43:28.840
I think I think he's back. I think I think

897
00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:31.679
he's back. I disagree with you. I think Paul makes

898
00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:32.679
an appearance here.

899
00:43:33.760 --> 00:43:35.519
I mean, I'm sure he will be back, but I

900
00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:36.639
mean to me, no.

901
00:43:36.719 --> 00:43:38.960
On this Friday's edition, I think, oh.

902
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:40.679
Okay, that's the case.

903
00:43:40.679 --> 00:43:42.159
Thing great because one of the things Romans said at

904
00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:44.320
the Hall of Fame speech for Paul Hayman was you

905
00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:48.320
would not see Roman reigns without Paul Hayman. But then

906
00:43:48.360 --> 00:43:50.519
maybe also bash Berlin, we get the return of Jimmy

907
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:54.119
Usso to help save Cody and Roman from a beat

908
00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:57.119
down post match, regardless of the outcome. But you know,

909
00:43:57.239 --> 00:43:59.480
then you can get the Jimmy factor involved into.

910
00:43:59.280 --> 00:43:59.679
It as well.

911
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:03.159
I think that maybe if Cody is involved in this,

912
00:44:03.519 --> 00:44:07.760
he is the lynchpin that helps get Sammy, Zaye and

913
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:12.320
Jay usso on board with the OG bloodline. I'm under

914
00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:15.960
the belief Doctor Trey that at a Survivor Series wargame

915
00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:18.280
that was just announced in Vancouver or late November, I

916
00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:21.000
think November thirty, if that, that main event will be

917
00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:25.920
the current or the bloodline two point zero Solo Soka's

918
00:44:26.239 --> 00:44:29.280
bloodline and the OG version of the bloodline. And I

919
00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:32.519
think Jimmy comes back soon, and maybe Cody's the one

920
00:44:32.599 --> 00:44:35.519
that says like, hey, you know, it goes to you know,

921
00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:38.000
Jay and Sammy, like you got to talk to Jimmy,

922
00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:41.360
you got to talk to Roman. Like this is where

923
00:44:41.360 --> 00:44:43.920
maybe Paul Haman gets evolved. I think that where this

924
00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:47.199
current chapter is right now, and maybe that's where Cody

925
00:44:47.239 --> 00:44:48.840
plays a role into it, which is strange because he's

926
00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:51.039
still the world champion, But maybe this is how like

927
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:54.480
Roman is on this forgiveness tour in a way. But

928
00:44:54.519 --> 00:44:58.360
everybody what's funny is that they despite it being a negative,

929
00:44:58.400 --> 00:44:59.960
now everybody is like referring to him as the try

930
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:02.000
chief and the head of the table all that stuff.

931
00:45:03.400 --> 00:45:05.960
I think that's where we get to I think Meltzer

932
00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:08.840
said this week as well in the Wrestling Reserver newsletter

933
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:12.000
that he is under belief one of the working plans

934
00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:14.519
is reportedly that Solo So co versus Roman Reigns takes

935
00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:18.320
place at WrestleMania. Right now, I would be surprised by

936
00:45:18.400 --> 00:45:22.199
that because I think they get to that earlier than WrestleMania.

937
00:45:23.719 --> 00:45:25.480
But maybe the Rock plays some sort of role in

938
00:45:25.519 --> 00:45:27.679
this as well. But I think in the short term,

939
00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:29.400
in the next three months, if we're looking at this

940
00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:32.880
quarterly Doctor Trey, I feel like the Roman Reigns Bloodline

941
00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:36.440
storyline plays out where Jimmy returns to be sided with

942
00:45:36.719 --> 00:45:39.519
Roman Reigns, Jay and Sammy get on board to be

943
00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:42.320
sided with Roman Reigns, and we get to that Survivor

944
00:45:42.400 --> 00:45:45.559
Series wargame match in late November Bloodline versus Bloodline.

945
00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:48.880
So are you still thinking as being four on four?

946
00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:52.400
We have the last one's been The last one was

947
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:53.440
just five on five.

948
00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:57.039
Right, I thought there was We've We've done one that

949
00:45:57.159 --> 00:45:59.039
was four and four, We've done one that's five on five.

950
00:45:59.679 --> 00:46:03.960
What was Damian Finn Dominic, JD. Drew McIntyre was five

951
00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:05.360
on five and I think the one prior to that

952
00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:08.440
was four on four. So if we do five on five,

953
00:46:08.599 --> 00:46:12.840
so I think Hickeleo is coming soon to w W,

954
00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:16.480
so that would be five. If you did solo Jacob

955
00:46:17.800 --> 00:46:22.920
Tomatunga tungaloa Hiccalo, that's five. I think you do og

956
00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:28.960
bloodline with those four, Jay, Sammy, Roman and Jimmy, and

957
00:46:29.079 --> 00:46:31.840
I think the big build up is Cody Rhodes to

958
00:46:31.960 --> 00:46:34.840
be that fifth and maybe at that same pay per

959
00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:38.760
view there is some sort of Rock return and that

960
00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:42.199
is what starts carrying us into the next phase of

961
00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:45.400
w W, which leads us into Royal Rubble WrestleMania season,

962
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:47.920
which I think Cody versus Rock is taking place at

963
00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:51.639
WrestleMania next year, So maybe Cody is that fifth member

964
00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:52.239
Doctor Trey.

965
00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:54.639
Yeah, that's kind of my thought process.

966
00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:57.039
But then you know, with the Roman or the Rock

967
00:46:57.119 --> 00:46:59.159
factor comes in, It's like, maybe we do Solo and

968
00:46:59.320 --> 00:47:04.039
Roman at Royal Rumble and then you get either Rock

969
00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:06.199
and Cody and Wrestleming, or you get Rock and Roman

970
00:47:06.360 --> 00:47:09.880
at Wrestling, Because maybe you get Rock and Cody at

971
00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:14.079
Rumble like, we don't know how more mania is because

972
00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:17.480
if you have to do Rock and Roman at some point,

973
00:47:18.800 --> 00:47:22.440
and Rock's getting older, Roman's getting older, you have to

974
00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:25.639
pay it off sooner rather than later, I would think,

975
00:47:26.239 --> 00:47:27.840
because I don't know how much. I mean, as much

976
00:47:27.880 --> 00:47:29.559
as you and I love the Bloodline story and the

977
00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:33.400
saga and the family dynamics, this whole thing two year drawout,

978
00:47:33.519 --> 00:47:35.079
I don't know if they can go two years.

979
00:47:35.159 --> 00:47:37.559
I mean, that's that seems really really long.

980
00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:41.199
Adding you to the three years that's already gone, that'd

981
00:47:41.239 --> 00:47:44.880
be a five six year storyline for the Bloodline. That

982
00:47:44.920 --> 00:47:46.719
would be really impressive that they can actually pull it

983
00:47:46.760 --> 00:47:48.280
out and keep our interest that entire time.

984
00:47:48.599 --> 00:47:51.199
Yeah. No, I agree, and I'm interested. I mean, I

985
00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:54.639
feel like they are really getting me interested in everything

986
00:47:54.679 --> 00:47:58.199
that's going on with with w WI in the Bloodline

987
00:47:58.239 --> 00:47:59.719
right now, So I think it can go a lot

988
00:47:59.760 --> 00:48:03.320
of their diferent ways. It's really intriguing. I'm excited to

989
00:48:03.400 --> 00:48:06.480
see the promo on Friday's edition of SmackDown. I think

990
00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:08.480
Roman opens the show. I think that's the right way

991
00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:11.199
to go. If he doesn't open, obviously he's closing, But

992
00:48:11.280 --> 00:48:15.119
I'd rather have Roman have the open because he is

993
00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:18.639
free reign at that point and he is not bar

994
00:48:18.760 --> 00:48:23.079
to any potential time constraints in executing that ankle. So yeah,

995
00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:26.599
I think short term, we're getting to Survivor series war games,

996
00:48:26.719 --> 00:48:31.079
and I agree with you. I don't think that it's

997
00:48:31.119 --> 00:48:33.960
out of the possibility that Roman solos at Royal Rumble,

998
00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:37.599
Rock Cody's at Royal Rumble and then you have those guys.

999
00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:40.239
You know, now would be the time to do Roman

1000
00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:43.119
and Rock at WrestleMania. I think people would care about it.

1001
00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:46.400
But yeah, I mean it's really well executed stuff. The

1002
00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:52.280
Bloodline Dog Trey. The Bloodline may go down overall as

1003
00:48:53.199 --> 00:48:56.800
the greatest storyline in professional wrestling history. I think in

1004
00:48:57.239 --> 00:49:02.599
my time as a Rustling fan, Austin McMahon is definitely

1005
00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:05.960
like a top one for me. I would say nWo

1006
00:49:06.440 --> 00:49:08.360
is up there, but as time has gone on, you've

1007
00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:10.679
kind of seen a lot of holes in the nWo stuff.

1008
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:15.199
But this bloodline, I think is some of the most captivating,

1009
00:49:16.480 --> 00:49:20.039
cinematic professional wrestling storylines I've ever seen in my life.

1010
00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:22.880
So I think I think there's a lot of potential

1011
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:24.599
there and I'm excited for it as we move forward.

1012
00:49:25.079 --> 00:49:26.760
Yeah, for me, I'm a little bit older. I gotta

1013
00:49:26.800 --> 00:49:28.880
throw in. So for me, it was always von.

1014
00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:31.199
Erics, freebirds, ah, true true, true.

1015
00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:35.119
Horseman versus Dusty and whoever Dusty ed with, and whether

1016
00:49:35.159 --> 00:49:39.599
it was Staying Luger, Magnetia, whoever was around, like you know,

1017
00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:42.840
breaking a man's leg, I mean them breaking Dusty's leg

1018
00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:44.559
and damn Riot breaking out plan.

1019
00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:47.320
It was still pretty awesome as it did. But then

1020
00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:49.559
you know, modern I guess maybe more of the modern

1021
00:49:49.599 --> 00:49:55.559
era Austin McMahon nWo is always up there, even though

1022
00:49:55.559 --> 00:49:58.159
there are holes. But still, I mean that was a

1023
00:49:58.360 --> 00:50:02.199
three four year long program, so that's pretty impressive. And

1024
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:07.079
then in recent times this has been absolutely the best.

1025
00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:10.039
I mean it's there's so much interacies.

1026
00:50:10.079 --> 00:50:12.440
I mean, how many You've already built two main event

1027
00:50:12.559 --> 00:50:16.079
level stars out of this outside of Roman with Sammy

1028
00:50:16.119 --> 00:50:18.719
and jay Uso either one gets slide to the main

1029
00:50:18.760 --> 00:50:21.199
event picture and if Jimmy ever just.

1030
00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:23.280
Kind of took off a solo, so you actually have

1031
00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:25.800
built three main event guys out of this angle in

1032
00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:30.280
addition to Romans. So just some really good storytelling overall.

1033
00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:34.719
But yeah, I mean, top five storylines of my lifetime

1034
00:50:34.760 --> 00:50:35.679
of forty seven years.

1035
00:50:36.320 --> 00:50:39.079
Yeah, no, it's it's it's definitely up there. And another

1036
00:50:39.119 --> 00:50:41.760
good storyline right now, Doc Trey is the Judgment Day

1037
00:50:41.880 --> 00:50:44.519
and I'm referring to it as the Judgment Day Implosion.

1038
00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:48.960
Similar question, a same exact question, not even similar, same

1039
00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:51.400
exact How do we want to see the Judgment Day

1040
00:50:51.440 --> 00:50:55.920
implosion storyline play out? I've been into the Bloodline storyline,

1041
00:50:55.920 --> 00:50:59.360
I've been into the Judgment Day storyline, and I'll share

1042
00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:01.519
a little story with you, and this is I think

1043
00:51:01.559 --> 00:51:03.639
this is cool for me because this is like how

1044
00:51:03.679 --> 00:51:06.239
I felt as a young kid watching wrestling in the nineties.

1045
00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:11.800
I wasn't like emotionally attached to the Summer Slam stuff

1046
00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:14.960
like an old school wrestling fan was, or when I

1047
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:17.760
was a kid whatever with the Rhea Ripley, you know,

1048
00:51:17.920 --> 00:51:20.880
with Dom and Live turning on Rhea and then Finn

1049
00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:25.519
turning on on Damian Priest. However, when they had that

1050
00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:28.000
promo where Damian Priest's in the ringe calling out Finn

1051
00:51:28.039 --> 00:51:29.960
balad or Finn's on the screen and hits it right

1052
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:32.400
up against his face and they pan out and it's

1053
00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:35.440
this brand new Judgment Day, I had a moment and

1054
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:36.960
I still have this moment as I talk about it,

1055
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:39.519
and silly to say, but I'll say it anyway. I

1056
00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:43.400
was like, those sons of bitches. I cannot wait to

1057
00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:47.599
see Damien Priest and Rita Ripley kick your ass. And

1058
00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:50.199
I love that because that has been lost for me

1059
00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:51.960
as a wrestling fan as the years have gone on,

1060
00:51:52.079 --> 00:51:54.519
and I do the podcast, read the dirt sheet stuff

1061
00:51:54.559 --> 00:51:56.199
like that, I'm like, wow, wait a minute, I am,

1062
00:51:56.800 --> 00:51:59.440
I am into this and I think that's rare for

1063
00:52:00.239 --> 00:52:03.719
today's adult wrestling fan. So I love that. And then

1064
00:52:04.360 --> 00:52:06.239
later on in the night, when Reham made the save,

1065
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:11.039
Reve got a stone cold pop Doctor Trey. When that

1066
00:52:11.320 --> 00:52:16.880
music dropped, that place went nuts and I have not

1067
00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:21.360
seen something like that at the start of a theme

1068
00:52:21.519 --> 00:52:26.400
song for a save since Stone Cold Steve Austin. I mean,

1069
00:52:26.559 --> 00:52:30.239
they lost their shit. They were so excited to see

1070
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:34.480
her beat down Dom and Live Morgan, who were attacking

1071
00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:38.719
Damien Priest at the time. Props at wa. I loved it,

1072
00:52:39.400 --> 00:52:42.119
and I can't wait to see how this storyline continues

1073
00:52:42.159 --> 00:52:44.000
to play out. I don't think it will be as

1074
00:52:44.159 --> 00:52:46.960
long as the bloodline stuff that we will potentially see

1075
00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:48.679
over the next six to twelve months. Or maybe three

1076
00:52:48.719 --> 00:52:50.880
to six months, but I think it has some good

1077
00:52:50.920 --> 00:52:53.440
longevity here for the rest of twenty twenty four at least.

1078
00:52:54.599 --> 00:52:58.519
Yeah, so longtime listeners know of this show, know that

1079
00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:02.079
Sean Michael's my favorite reservot. And when Sean lost in

1080
00:53:02.119 --> 00:53:05.400
WrestleMania at thirteen, it made me sad because I knew

1081
00:53:05.400 --> 00:53:08.239
Sean was going away. But what we saw on Monday

1082
00:53:08.280 --> 00:53:10.639
Night when they panned out and you got that shot

1083
00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:13.960
of I'm saying the new Judgment Day, you know, but

1084
00:53:14.079 --> 00:53:18.000
it's basically just the newest members of the Judgment Day Finn,

1085
00:53:18.639 --> 00:53:21.960
you know, Carlito, j D and Dom and Lived. It

1086
00:53:22.119 --> 00:53:25.840
reminded me of when they when they when they put

1087
00:53:26.159 --> 00:53:29.239
Triple h An X, Pog, Billy Gunn and a road

1088
00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:32.599
Dog together to kick off the Monday Night after WrestleMania

1089
00:53:32.599 --> 00:53:35.920
at thirteen and the beat down of Chainsaw Charlie and

1090
00:53:36.280 --> 00:53:39.039
Cactus Jack, and you're just like kind of that same thing,

1091
00:53:39.159 --> 00:53:42.079
like you son of bitches, like their back, like they

1092
00:53:42.239 --> 00:53:44.840
just read they cut the head off of the snake,

1093
00:53:44.920 --> 00:53:47.280
and the snake just said, no, We're just gonna keep,

1094
00:53:47.559 --> 00:53:50.440
you know, biting at you. So it reminded me a

1095
00:53:50.440 --> 00:53:53.199
little bit of that and like, Okay, Damien's out, Rhea

1096
00:53:53.280 --> 00:53:53.519
is out.

1097
00:53:53.719 --> 00:53:56.519
We're still strong, and we're gonna call it. And and

1098
00:53:56.599 --> 00:54:00.480
that line of Benn saying that in every time you know,

1099
00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:02.719
it may not be right away, it may not be now,

1100
00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:05.199
but every time you turn your back, I'm gonna be

1101
00:54:05.239 --> 00:54:07.199
there to stab it again and again again. I have

1102
00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:11.679
never heard anybody use backstabbing that way. And I was like,

1103
00:54:11.800 --> 00:54:13.719
that's a really damn good promo.

1104
00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:16.519
And I think this is a way of maybe re

1105
00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:21.400
energizing Finn Balor his character in WWE, because I mean,

1106
00:54:21.480 --> 00:54:23.400
this is the first ever Universal Champion.

1107
00:54:23.639 --> 00:54:24.639
You know, he was an NXT.

1108
00:54:24.800 --> 00:54:26.840
You know, he's a triple AH guy in NXT, but

1109
00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:29.760
he's kind of been since he joined the Judgment Day.

1110
00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:31.960
At first we thought it was gonna be his group,

1111
00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:33.840
and he always kind of fell to the side for

1112
00:54:34.039 --> 00:54:36.760
Rha and and Damien. So maybe it's the way of

1113
00:54:36.840 --> 00:54:41.159
re energizing his career as well now that he's in

1114
00:54:41.280 --> 00:54:43.320
his mid thirties as well. So it's a way to

1115
00:54:43.400 --> 00:54:45.280
kind of reinvigorate Finn Balor.

1116
00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:47.960
Yeah, it's it's really exciting stuff and I think again

1117
00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:51.039
it's been executed really well. I've loved the stuff that

1118
00:54:51.159 --> 00:54:53.679
led into it. There was those like red herrings that

1119
00:54:53.719 --> 00:54:56.199
they had were I think there was a couple of

1120
00:54:56.199 --> 00:54:58.320
shots where like people were coming into Raw a couple

1121
00:54:58.360 --> 00:55:00.760
of months ago, and there was a on the background

1122
00:55:01.239 --> 00:55:03.519
and in one shot Finn Baler walks out of the car,

1123
00:55:04.199 --> 00:55:06.719
and then in the next shot later on Live Morgan

1124
00:55:06.800 --> 00:55:08.320
comes out of the same car. And then there was

1125
00:55:08.320 --> 00:55:11.840
stuff where uh Dominic and Live were coming out of

1126
00:55:11.880 --> 00:55:15.519
the same dressing room during like backstage vignettes, and they

1127
00:55:15.559 --> 00:55:17.440
had gotten away from that for a little bit, but

1128
00:55:17.599 --> 00:55:20.480
obviously with fans and us as guys doing the podcaster,

1129
00:55:20.559 --> 00:55:21.880
we always felt like this was the way that was

1130
00:55:21.920 --> 00:55:25.159
going to go. And I just really loved again the

1131
00:55:25.239 --> 00:55:27.920
attention to detail. I mean, you have some really really

1132
00:55:28.039 --> 00:55:32.079
strong storylines carrying w right now, whether it is this

1133
00:55:32.519 --> 00:55:35.519
beginning stages of this new chapter of the Bloodline on SmackDown,

1134
00:55:35.880 --> 00:55:39.199
if it's a true McIntyre and cmpunk on Monday Night Raw,

1135
00:55:39.599 --> 00:55:42.079
if it's the Judgment Day implosion on Monday Night Raw

1136
00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:45.000
as well. So I don't think that this has the

1137
00:55:45.079 --> 00:55:49.079
same longevity, but I think if it's if it's really good,

1138
00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:53.599
it could And you know, Damien has been made into

1139
00:55:53.599 --> 00:55:56.159
a babyface. Damien's been a star, Rhea has been a

1140
00:55:56.199 --> 00:55:59.000
star for years. I think Damien obviously kind of trailed

1141
00:55:59.000 --> 00:56:01.119
a little bit behind. I think fans are really behind

1142
00:56:01.199 --> 00:56:04.840
him right now. Agreed, we're finded a little bit of rejuvenation.

1143
00:56:05.039 --> 00:56:07.840
I like that Carlito and JD McDonough are getting some

1144
00:56:07.960 --> 00:56:11.159
love in this as well. Live. I would say the

1145
00:56:11.360 --> 00:56:14.599
only thing that maybe I don't like Doctor Trey is

1146
00:56:14.679 --> 00:56:18.119
that the Women's Champion is kind of arm candy in

1147
00:56:18.159 --> 00:56:20.639
the short term. I think Live is such a stronger

1148
00:56:20.719 --> 00:56:23.960
character that she doesn't need to be that like main

1149
00:56:24.079 --> 00:56:28.440
squeeze arm candy around Dominic Mysterio who has been rejuvenated

1150
00:56:28.480 --> 00:56:30.760
as audastardly heeled that everybody should hate as well.

1151
00:56:31.800 --> 00:56:32.679
Yeah, I think the.

1152
00:56:32.679 --> 00:56:34.840
Thing with Live and this is gonna be something that

1153
00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:38.760
she always runs into is just she's just so small

1154
00:56:39.519 --> 00:56:43.480
that she's going to need somebody as a heel to

1155
00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:46.519
kind of help buffer her a little bit. So I

1156
00:56:46.599 --> 00:56:49.400
don't hate it as much. I understand where you're coming

1157
00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:52.360
from with it, because she is the Women's Champion. She's

1158
00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:56.280
strong enough and her character's good enough. But I think

1159
00:56:56.320 --> 00:56:59.119
with this the way her her character's kind of gone.

1160
00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:01.239
It makes sense to put her as part of the group,

1161
00:57:01.760 --> 00:57:04.239
have Dom be around because there now you can have

1162
00:57:05.239 --> 00:57:06.360
Dom help her win.

1163
00:57:06.679 --> 00:57:09.119
And because she's so small, it makes sense where you know,

1164
00:57:09.280 --> 00:57:13.039
God helping Riha where Hellria was like the third biggest

1165
00:57:13.079 --> 00:57:14.119
member in the judgment day.

1166
00:57:15.239 --> 00:57:18.000
You know, as far as size wise, didn't always make

1167
00:57:18.039 --> 00:57:20.920
a ton of sense when she was wrestling much smaller opponents.

1168
00:57:20.960 --> 00:57:23.559
With with Live having Don by her side, it makes

1169
00:57:23.639 --> 00:57:26.880
a lot of sense because everybody outside of Alexa Bliss

1170
00:57:27.639 --> 00:57:29.719
on the raw women's side is bigger than Live. So

1171
00:57:30.559 --> 00:57:33.039
I don't hate it as much because I think I

1172
00:57:33.199 --> 00:57:34.119
know where they're going with that.

1173
00:57:34.599 --> 00:57:37.559
On August eighth, if we were doing the award show today,

1174
00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:39.920
is Live Moregan You're Women's Wrestler of the Year.

1175
00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:47.960
Probably yeah, I would say probably.

1176
00:57:48.440 --> 00:57:51.719
She's She's had the most character development and her end

1177
00:57:51.800 --> 00:57:55.599
ring work has just gotten so much better just even

1178
00:57:55.639 --> 00:57:56.239
in the last year.

1179
00:57:56.360 --> 00:58:01.039
So it might be between her and Baylee and Nya,

1180
00:58:01.199 --> 00:58:01.840
like the three of them.

1181
00:58:02.239 --> 00:58:04.320
Ria's three or four month absence does kind of hurt

1182
00:58:04.320 --> 00:58:06.880
her a little bit, so it makes it a little bit.

1183
00:58:07.559 --> 00:58:10.559
You know, typically Ria one airbels from chasing her, but

1184
00:58:11.239 --> 00:58:13.559
lives had the most development, you know, since her return

1185
00:58:13.559 --> 00:58:15.599
at the Rumble, and it's hard to argue against them.

1186
00:58:16.280 --> 00:58:18.679
Damien is Damian Priese if it was all ended today,

1187
00:58:18.760 --> 00:58:20.159
is Damien Price a breakout star of the.

1188
00:58:20.159 --> 00:58:26.800
Year, breakout star of the year. Hmmm uh for me,

1189
00:58:26.920 --> 00:58:27.840
it's him and Osprey.

1190
00:58:31.360 --> 00:58:33.760
Okay, I think that's fair. I think that's very fair

1191
00:58:34.320 --> 00:58:37.599
given some thought, I think that's very fair. I think

1192
00:58:38.639 --> 00:58:44.239
the really interesting case in this entire thing is how

1193
00:58:44.840 --> 00:58:47.599
when it comes to this implosion is how do they

1194
00:58:48.079 --> 00:58:51.440
end it with Rhea and Damien going off on their own.

1195
00:58:51.679 --> 00:58:55.960
That to me, the final execution of this all I

1196
00:58:56.039 --> 00:58:59.800
think will be the most telling thing moving forward. Doctor Try.

1197
00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:03.039
Yeah, it's gonna be hard. On one hand, it's kind

1198
00:59:03.039 --> 00:59:03.440
of hard.

1199
00:59:03.280 --> 00:59:06.159
To separate them because you know, you're it's two people

1200
00:59:06.280 --> 00:59:10.239
fighting five It's really hard to be, really hard to

1201
00:59:10.320 --> 00:59:12.639
separate them for a while. I think what they go

1202
00:59:12.840 --> 00:59:17.119
is is once this kind of dies down, you see

1203
00:59:17.159 --> 00:59:21.000
Damien go back after Gunther and Rea reclaims all of

1204
00:59:21.039 --> 00:59:23.199
the championship, they go on their back. They can kind

1205
00:59:23.239 --> 00:59:24.440
of do the same thing we saw with the Shield

1206
00:59:24.480 --> 00:59:27.880
for years, where whenever needed, you can bring them back

1207
00:59:27.960 --> 00:59:32.280
together because they have this uh history and chemistry built

1208
00:59:32.320 --> 00:59:35.480
between them now, but yeah, it's gonna be kind of

1209
00:59:35.480 --> 00:59:35.880
hard to see.

1210
00:59:36.000 --> 00:59:38.360
Like, of course, the good guys win in the end,

1211
00:59:40.239 --> 00:59:40.719
But the.

1212
00:59:40.719 --> 00:59:43.599
Other thing is do they add in and to do

1213
00:59:43.679 --> 00:59:46.920
they draw people in to help them battle the Judgment Day?

1214
00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:49.320
And to me, the Judgment Day needs one more big guy.

1215
00:59:49.920 --> 00:59:51.880
Nobody on that Nobody on that team is over two

1216
00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:54.400
hundred and thirty pounds. They need one more big guy

1217
00:59:54.480 --> 00:59:57.280
in their arsenal. So I would expect somebody from some

1218
00:59:57.480 --> 01:00:00.159
big guy from NXT to eventually come up, or they

1219
01:00:00.239 --> 01:00:02.320
recruit somebody else to kind of fill out the blood.

1220
01:00:02.320 --> 01:00:03.239
Or the Judgment Day.

1221
01:00:04.719 --> 01:00:06.360
Then finally, the last thing I want to talk about

1222
01:00:06.360 --> 01:00:09.239
here is now our early expectations for Gunther's World of

1223
01:00:09.320 --> 01:00:11.719
aweight Championship. Rain he has held and this is something

1224
01:00:11.719 --> 01:00:13.840
they're promoting in WE television right now. He held the

1225
01:00:13.920 --> 01:00:18.000
NXCUK Championship for about I think eight hundred days, the

1226
01:00:18.079 --> 01:00:21.519
Intercontinent Old Championship for a record six hundred plus days.

1227
01:00:22.039 --> 01:00:24.159
The expectation here is the World of a Weight Championship

1228
01:00:24.199 --> 01:00:28.000
will be held for probably nearly the same or close

1229
01:00:28.039 --> 01:00:30.239
to or they're going to pump it up as potentially

1230
01:00:30.320 --> 01:00:33.679
being that long, and that's kind of Gunther's game. So

1231
01:00:33.760 --> 01:00:36.079
maybe we're seeing something where a world title reign is

1232
01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:39.039
taking place for the next six to twelve months. What

1233
01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:42.360
are the early expectations here, dot Trey Mine. I think

1234
01:00:42.400 --> 01:00:45.239
Gunther at this point is entering WrestleMania as a World

1235
01:00:45.239 --> 01:00:49.159
of Awaight champion. I think a match with Sammy Zain

1236
01:00:49.199 --> 01:00:51.480
who wins to the Royal Rumble, is one that would

1237
01:00:51.480 --> 01:00:53.599
take place at WrestleMania one year later from the New

1238
01:00:53.719 --> 01:00:55.679
contin Old Championship match because that was a very compellit

1239
01:00:55.840 --> 01:00:59.119
storyline in feud, and I think Sammy eventually goes over

1240
01:00:59.239 --> 01:01:02.320
him in the next Yeah, six to twelve months as

1241
01:01:02.360 --> 01:01:04.559
the new World Away champion, but I think this is

1242
01:01:04.599 --> 01:01:07.320
a dominating reign. I think it's matches that we're sitting

1243
01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:09.519
here going this is what we expect from Gunther Match

1244
01:01:09.559 --> 01:01:13.360
of the Night potentially. I'm excited for Gunther as the

1245
01:01:13.360 --> 01:01:15.320
World of Weight Champion on the Raw brand. But what

1246
01:01:15.480 --> 01:01:18.039
are your early expectations for this run moving forward?

1247
01:01:18.480 --> 01:01:20.480
No, I'm excited because I'm a huge fan of Gunther, like,

1248
01:01:20.679 --> 01:01:22.960
I love watching him wrestling. He's one of my favorite

1249
01:01:23.679 --> 01:01:25.320
performers in wrestling to day.

1250
01:01:25.440 --> 01:01:25.800
It does.

1251
01:01:26.719 --> 01:01:29.679
The nervousness about it for me is when you look

1252
01:01:29.719 --> 01:01:34.320
at that roster, you could say that he's maybe the

1253
01:01:34.639 --> 01:01:39.360
fourth most popular person, Like you look at the pecking order,

1254
01:01:39.400 --> 01:01:41.280
He's going to fall behind rawlins Back and Tire and

1255
01:01:41.360 --> 01:01:44.760
Punk for the immediate future. And so unless they shake

1256
01:01:44.840 --> 01:01:47.280
up the roster when the show goes to Netflix or something,

1257
01:01:48.880 --> 01:01:49.519
how long can you.

1258
01:01:49.559 --> 01:01:53.039
Have your world champion be the fourth or fifth guy

1259
01:01:53.639 --> 01:01:54.400
on your roster?

1260
01:01:55.000 --> 01:01:58.639
At some point, you know, I kind of expect, you know,

1261
01:01:59.159 --> 01:02:01.039
Drew to get a shot gun the Punk to get

1262
01:02:01.079 --> 01:02:03.599
a shot at Gunther. Wrong, some one of those bigger

1263
01:02:03.679 --> 01:02:05.760
names is going to have to get into this world

1264
01:02:05.840 --> 01:02:10.599
title picture. Otherwise it's just weird. It's gonna be like AWESQ,

1265
01:02:10.679 --> 01:02:14.119
where sometimes the world title is not the most important

1266
01:02:14.119 --> 01:02:17.199
thing on the show for months at a time. And

1267
01:02:17.320 --> 01:02:20.880
that's that's my only nervousness about this. And it may

1268
01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:23.519
take them shaking up the roster, moving some guys around

1269
01:02:24.039 --> 01:02:25.159
to kind of bounce it all out.

1270
01:02:25.880 --> 01:02:31.199
Yeah, no, it's it'll be interesting. I think the one

1271
01:02:31.320 --> 01:02:33.559
thing with guntherro doctor tref I had one knock on

1272
01:02:33.679 --> 01:02:37.400
him and he doesn't need it at all, But I

1273
01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:39.639
would like to see it is I always have felt

1274
01:02:39.679 --> 01:02:42.639
like that there's like a lack of compellities storyline with Gunther,

1275
01:02:42.840 --> 01:02:45.039
and I think if there's gonna be one thing that

1276
01:02:45.079 --> 01:02:49.760
needs potentially exposed of him going forward is as a character,

1277
01:02:50.239 --> 01:02:54.159
he's a little one dimensional as a wrestler. It could

1278
01:02:54.159 --> 01:02:59.119
be formulaic and similar at times. I think that those

1279
01:02:59.159 --> 01:03:01.239
could be a little bit of a I would love

1280
01:03:01.360 --> 01:03:06.119
to see the character catch up to the wrestler as well,

1281
01:03:06.519 --> 01:03:08.239
and I would like to see him in an equal

1282
01:03:08.719 --> 01:03:13.519
compelling feud storyline, one that is comparable to Drew mcatarcy

1283
01:03:13.599 --> 01:03:16.960
and punk bloodline, Judgment day stuff, because I would love

1284
01:03:17.079 --> 01:03:20.880
to see that area that aspect of Gunther's character.

1285
01:03:22.039 --> 01:03:24.599
I think what you're seeing right now is he misses

1286
01:03:24.719 --> 01:03:29.679
having Ludvig Kaiser with him, not that he needs a mouthpiece.

1287
01:03:29.719 --> 01:03:33.599
I think you saw them start that path with the

1288
01:03:33.760 --> 01:03:37.000
promos heading in a SummerSlam, you know, the empty arena

1289
01:03:37.119 --> 01:03:39.239
promos and things like that. He is a little bit

1290
01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:42.760
one dimensional. The Ring of Sacred, the rest of the

1291
01:03:42.880 --> 01:03:45.360
ring general, that type of thing. He needs a little

1292
01:03:45.360 --> 01:03:45.920
bit more depth.

1293
01:03:46.119 --> 01:03:50.239
You also saw him kiss his wife after we We'll

1294
01:03:50.280 --> 01:03:52.400
tell you saw Jenny out there and I was like, oh,

1295
01:03:52.559 --> 01:03:56.840
that's something new from Gunther we haven't seen. I think

1296
01:03:57.639 --> 01:04:02.400
he does need either somebody he needs, Lackey's he needs.

1297
01:04:02.440 --> 01:04:04.800
If you're a general, you have an army. He doesn't

1298
01:04:04.800 --> 01:04:07.159
have an army right now, so I think, you know

1299
01:04:07.320 --> 01:04:09.400
he'll need that at some point to give him a

1300
01:04:09.400 --> 01:04:12.239
little more death. But plus it also creates compelling storylines

1301
01:04:12.280 --> 01:04:14.760
if he beraates somebody at the point where they turn

1302
01:04:14.800 --> 01:04:17.280
against him and then make a healer or another baby

1303
01:04:17.320 --> 01:04:22.880
face out of it. But it's hard to build him

1304
01:04:23.679 --> 01:04:27.079
when right now he's the third or fourth most compelling

1305
01:04:27.159 --> 01:04:29.760
thing on the show. You got the Judgment Day implosion,

1306
01:04:29.800 --> 01:04:34.000
you got Real, you got Damian Finn, Rhea, Live, Punk McIntyre, Rollins,

1307
01:04:34.079 --> 01:04:37.719
Bronson Reid, and then Gumper's over here.

1308
01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:39.440
It's gonna be kind of it's kind of hard.

1309
01:04:39.360 --> 01:04:42.440
To build that character up when he's not the focal

1310
01:04:42.480 --> 01:04:45.800
point of the show going forward for the next couple months.

1311
01:04:45.840 --> 01:04:48.239
Probably we're seeing that with both World Champions, isn't it

1312
01:04:48.639 --> 01:04:48.920
right now?

1313
01:04:49.039 --> 01:04:49.239
Yeah?

1314
01:04:49.400 --> 01:04:51.480
I think obviously Cody has a better chance of getting

1315
01:04:51.559 --> 01:04:52.960
back in the focal point, But you're seeing that with

1316
01:04:53.039 --> 01:04:54.519
both World Champions, which is bizarre.

1317
01:04:55.199 --> 01:04:57.079
Yeah, it's a little bit of it, like we said.

1318
01:04:57.079 --> 01:04:58.360
Like I said, it's a little bit of the issue

1319
01:04:58.400 --> 01:05:01.639
that AEW's had in the past, where where you're wanting

1320
01:05:01.679 --> 01:05:03.719
to try and build new stars up by putting the

1321
01:05:03.840 --> 01:05:09.039
title on them, but until they really get over with

1322
01:05:09.159 --> 01:05:12.599
the crowd, it's kind of hard when you have bigger

1323
01:05:12.719 --> 01:05:15.719
stars off doing other stuff not related to what the

1324
01:05:15.760 --> 01:05:16.639
World Champions doing.

1325
01:05:17.840 --> 01:05:19.400
Something to think about for next week's edition of the

1326
01:05:19.440 --> 01:05:21.840
podcast as we organically sit here, because we just talked

1327
01:05:21.880 --> 01:05:24.079
about with Cody, We've talked about with guntherro We mentioned

1328
01:05:24.119 --> 01:05:25.519
it with Bailey as well, and I think you can

1329
01:05:25.559 --> 01:05:27.840
make a case with it about Damian Priest. Just something

1330
01:05:27.880 --> 01:05:30.400
to think about here. Maybe if I remember, I'll write

1331
01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:32.199
it down here. We'll bring it up on next week's show.

1332
01:05:33.079 --> 01:05:36.480
Is WWE Creative having a tough time booking the World

1333
01:05:36.559 --> 01:05:41.599
Champions because some of the most compelling feuds now don't

1334
01:05:41.599 --> 01:05:44.280
involve a world title. And this is also coming off

1335
01:05:44.320 --> 01:05:46.840
of a period of time where the Bloodline had a

1336
01:05:46.880 --> 01:05:50.920
world title in there and it was very compelling, but

1337
01:05:51.000 --> 01:05:53.880
it was it because the world title. But love Cody,

1338
01:05:54.039 --> 01:05:57.880
love Gunther, They're not a compelling storylines right now, everything

1339
01:05:57.920 --> 01:06:01.400
else that is compelling does not have a world title involved.

1340
01:06:01.400 --> 01:06:03.599
So I'm gonna think about Doctor Tren. I mean we'll

1341
01:06:03.599 --> 01:06:05.159
talk about here in next week's edition to pod.

1342
01:06:06.239 --> 01:06:08.039
Yeah, no, absolutely right, thanks a lot of sense.

1343
01:06:08.719 --> 01:06:10.440
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1344
01:06:10.519 --> 01:06:12.960
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