The CM Punk Rollercoaster and 2023 WWE Draft Preview | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #689 – 4/27/23

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It's stupid up. Well, welcome
everybody. Welcome to this week's edition.

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It's the Real Flow Show. Episode
numbers six hundred eighty nine for Hope point

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shout two thousand point three. Welcome
to his Steek's edition of half a year.

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I am one after show. I
am Jeff Peck joined it every single

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week in my coach one only doctor
Trey Franklin and doctor Trey. What is

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up, my friend? All right? Just my road Warrior week. I

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just got I was in Charlotte for
a couple of days, got home last

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night. Now I'm setting up for
a Honda Indie Grand Prix raise, and

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I got another like three fifteen hour
days in the row. I feel like

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it's WrestleMania week, but in the
real world, like I just have life

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happening a lot for the next few
days. Do you know what day of

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the week it is? I mean, I guess you should, right because

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it's sr to you. But did
you know actually what day of the week

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it was? Today? Yeah?
I did, because I was literally in

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Charlotte. I was counting down the
days to get home. Fair. I

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was like, I'm gonna get home
late Wednesday night, and then Thursday,

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I have this and Friday I have
this, so I'm aware of it that

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I literally when you texted me,
I was like, oh crap, I

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forgot. We weren't on vacation any
mode. I gotta get back into recording

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the show mode. So what are
your thoughts? Where do you stand on

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Charlotte as a city. Um,
it's not bad. I mean, for

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it's it's a weird city in the
sense of, you know, it had

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its boom in the nineties, went
through a little bit of money trouble early

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two thousands. The part I was
in downtown Charlotte was really nice. Um,

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it's not a bad city. And
then there's a lot of stuff to

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do. Actually, there's amusement parks
and all the little fun our Hall of

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Fame. Yeah, so's it's a
pretty good city for entertainment and things to

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do. Maybe not the best bar
scene or things like that, but like

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if you're a family person, there's
a bunch of stuff for families to get

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into down there, So it says
it's a really good family town. Yeah.

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I actually really enjoy Charlotte is a
city. I used to travel back

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and forth there maybe like five six, seven years ago now and always enjoyed

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the food, a lot of decent
nightlife going on down there. Very not

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hustle and bustle like what we typically
see from a New York city. It

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was it was my kind of my
kind of city. I enjoyed it.

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I enjoyed going to going to Charlotte
and visiting it. And then I always

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remember, like there's just like two
streets that basically run through it all the

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time. Was it Tyron? Tyron
and Sardists, I think are the two

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main ones. Like I lose right
because I haven't. I hadn't been there,

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like you know, all the use
I spend North Caroline, I hadn't

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been there in like five or six
years. So I was like, oh,

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yeah, there's Tyron, there's Sardness
is another one. But they put

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a toll road out on eighty five. Now that threw me off. So

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I'll be getting tolls in the mail
that I have to pay here at some

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point in the next few months.
The reason about Charlotte is really Charlotte and

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Nashville you'd be kind of boomed at
the same time, and they're about the

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same size, but they're completely kind
of opposite cities, Like like Nashville's known

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now for its music scene. It's
far life, it's nightlife, but when

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you take the kids up there,
there's not a whole lot really to do

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for a family, Whereas Charlotte may
not have the music scene, but it

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does have the family friendly stuff to
keep your kids or tape. But Nashville

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is known as more of a destination
vacation town than Charlotte is. Yeah,

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it's it's nice. It's a nice
city. And that is your Travel Report

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with Doctor Trey Franklin and Jeff Peck
on this week's edition of SRTU, which

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we did not do back in the
days when I was actually traveling. No,

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No, it's crazy, well because
rarely did you go to a city

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like I'm not as much of a
worldly traveler as you are, Like you

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went to a city Charlotte that which
has a lot of wrestling history. To

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tie it all back to the reason
for this podcast. You would be everywhere

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around the world, and there were
very few times that you and I could

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like relate unless you like visited in
the Northeast, where I've stamped my traveling

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the most would be in the northeast
of the United States. So this is

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rare. Yeah, now I will
say in Charlotte, I met the guys

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who run the Northeastern part of my
company up there, so it was kind

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of nice as they thought of guys
from like the New England area, the

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Jersey guys, the Philly guys,
and I'm like, yeah, it's been

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a long time since I've been to
the Northeast. But there was this old

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joke of my company that they booked
me anywhere between Baltimore in Boston. I

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was gonna be pissed, Like I
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I'm like, north side of Boston
going up the Main fantastic, like

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you know, DC back down to
Florida. I'm good there, but that

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Philly, Jersey, New York,
Connecticut part of ninety five, I just

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the traffic was atrocious. So that's
I was like, I just tried to

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avoid it. Those guys are like, yeah, we do too, so

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yeah, yeah, Charlotte. That
is that more in Doctor Trey's travel block

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as well, Traveling with Doctor Trey
dot WordPress dot com. There you go,

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Doctor Trey. Let's get into the
world the professional wrestling. Obviously,

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Charlotte is such a big town for
professional wrestling, but there is a lot

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going on since since we last talked. We've been having a different type of

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shows these last several weeks, coming
out of WrestleMania Weekend, everything that went

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on there, and since then,
Doctor Trey, there is a huge amount

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of new swirling around in regards to
one c M Punk. Let's start with

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the awnd of things. So,
Cmpunk reportedly is returning to Alili Wrestling on

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the debut episode of aw's new Saturday
show on June the seventeenth at the United

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Center in Chicago. It's believed the
new show show will be called AW Collision.

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Warner Brothers Discovery was reportedly told that
Punk was returning as well, and

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a potential roster split may happen between
the Saturday show and Dynamite. Lots to

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unpacked here first, Doctor Trey,
Let's start with the CM punk stuff.

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It looks like he's on his way
back to Alili Wrestling. I don't know

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if I'm totally surprised about that.
I think we talked about this, you

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know, back when we had the
brawl, and my thing was always kind

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of like, if there's a way
for guys to make money off something like

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this, the smart guys will try
to figure out a way to make money.

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And Punk is definitely one of the
smarter guys when it comes to doing

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business the old wrestling's term, you
know, and even you know Tony Kahn,

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for as much crap as we give
him at times, you know,

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he's also a businessman at heart.
And the fact that they can look at

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something like this and go, hey, we could split the roster, which

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makes a ton of sense and have
one show dedicated to Dynamite, one for

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Collision, and then RAMPAHB like the
middle show, like a combined show or

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something. If that's the route they
take, it makes a ton of sense.

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And they can do that. Guys
get more TV time, guys get

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a chance to actually get their characters
out there. It makes sense. So

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I'm not and you need to have
an anchor and have a draw, and

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Punk is that polarizing draw kind of
guy. So people who hate him are

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going to watch that show, and
the folks who still love them are going

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to watch that show. So I
expect it to be a pretty successful launch

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if that is indeed the route they
end up taking. So Doctor Trey,

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let's we'll start with the cmpunk end
of things. Yes, not surprised that

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he's returning to all ELI wrestling.
Will unpack that a little bit more as

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the conversation goes on, but being
that, we won't discuss this spot in

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the story again in regards to unpacking
everything with cmpunk. So the Saturday show

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now, so now you're gonna have
a two hour show on Saturday. Reportedly

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there will be a two hour show
on Wednesdays a one hour show on Friday,

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so five hours a week of ALI
wrestling on Warner Brothers Discovery Television.

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I believe Dark Elevation is winding down, and I think Dark and the Roh

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stuff will continue before some of the
Dynamites. I think Roh is doing another

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taping down in Universal soon as well. But I like this is it's kind

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of scary to me because as a
wrestling fan who watches everything WWE and everything

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I'll Eat wrestling, I know that
there's we hate to talk about tribalism in

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professional wrestling, but I feel like
with some of the moves that AW is

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doing now like you're kind of testing
the waters to see can we keep this

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fan base that watches both shows going. Because Monday Raw, Tuesday, NXT

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Wednesday, Dynamite Thursday. Nothing unless
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Japan, Friday SmackDown and Rampage Saturday, Collision Sunday nothing. I mean,

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that's that's a lot of wrestling,
and you and I are diehard wrestling fans.

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I'm a little bit scared about this
because it could be too much and

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too much over satirization. And I
know that there's issues with the roster that

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will address you a little bit as
well with this potential ter split, But

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I don't know if I totally am
down with this move, because it's like,

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why are we adding another aw show
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If you are doing a roster split
with Ring of Honor Wrestling, no

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that I agree with, Like you
bought the library now, it could be

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a situation. It's confusing to me
because you're still celebrating the Ring of Honor,

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because you still have a Ring of
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Ring of Honor Television Champion, Women's
Champion, tag team Champions, six man

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Tag Champions, but yet this new
show is not the Ring of Honor show.

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In my head, I was trying
to figure out if they were trying

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to do something similar to like what
ws WE did when they bought out WCW,

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which is test the waters to see
if it's a brand worth trying to

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save or just incorporate the talent in
it. It is a little confusing for

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me on how they want to do
this. I think the biggest thing for

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me as I think they looked at
their rosters say look we got you know,

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actually probably more people on our roster
than WWE, and they have five

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hours of prime time television. We
only have three. They have two hours

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of developmental TV, and we have
the YouTube shows. I think for them

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it was kind of like, hey, if we can get money and make

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money from Turner to put up another
show and get more of our guys on

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TV, increases their value as well. I just I honestly like since they

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bought a Ring of Honor, have
not figured out what they're doing for You

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of Honter. I don't know if
anybody actually like, we're running pay per

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views off a YouTube brand is what
it we're basically doing right now? Well

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in a paid service, yeah,
you know. It's like, I mean,

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they're following the MLW plan for a
Ring of Honor. I don't really

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know what they're trying to accomplish with
Ring of Honor. I think that's for

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those guys like us who have been
fans for years, Like it's like,

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no, it's it's a it's a
good, solid brand. You could run

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with this because it was never oversaturated, like you know, it's always kind

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of like the Underground Underground Show.
So you could do something with this and

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brand the Saturday show as aw Ring
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brand and then still have you know, dynamite and then rampage B like the

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Filler brand. I mean, you
could have done it that way. But

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one thing, I'm not a billionaire, I guess, and I don't get

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to make those decisions. So the
roster split. The roster split portion of

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this story is because some parts of
the locker room don't get along with the

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other parts of the locker room.
Let's just say the cmpunk FTR side and

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the Elite and Chris Jericho side are
are probably the two separate factions of of

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what we're seeing, and for what
it's worth, we obviously are not there

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and from everything that we're reading.
And there's another addition to this, another

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chapter to this story that well we'll
talk about here as well. It seems

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like most of these parties are trying
to work towards the betterment of the promotion

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first and foremost. So with that
said, I feel like that the way

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that they currently utilize the roster is
not great. Like there are folks that

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are favorites of Tony Khan, Like
I love the Orange Cassidy title defenses,

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but I also watched Dynamite and I
love Orange Cassidy matches. But I'm wondering

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where the hell hero is. I'm
wondering why more wrestlers are not getting TV

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time, Why did it take this
long for Bandino to come on AW television?

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Where is Ruche? And I know
that ROH is featuring a lot of

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these folks, but I don't watch
ROH. I'm not going to pay nine

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ninety nine a month to watch four
episodes of Roah television plus all the old

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you know shows that they used to
do, Like that's just not I don't

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have the time for that. So
I am skeptical about this roster split time

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to Trey. I don't think that
they're utilizing the roster all that well presently,

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and I'm concerned because I know that
you need to take people off television

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from time to time to refresh them. But I feel like what goes on

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in AW is the wrong type of
refresh quite honestly. Yeah. And then

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if you're if you're doing two separate
brands, what then are you going to

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do with the Ring of Honor titles? Like are you going to make actually

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make a third brand out of it? And that's filler somewhere else. I

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mean, if you have a Dynamite
brand and you have a Collision brand,

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and oh dear god, Jeff,
what if they do multiple like they add

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even more titles? Um, that
would My brain just exploded on that thought,

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Like if we have a Dynamite champion
and a Collision champion. See,

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I don't think it. I don't
think it reaches that level. I don't

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think they're going to do rons back
down stuff. I think that this is

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still a e W. But it's
like, okay, but if there's gonna

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be this weird soft roster split,
why not just make AW Dynamite and ROH

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Collision on Saturday and two separate brands, or at least ends up calling a

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collision, just call it AW Ring
of Honor. Yeah whatever, Yeah,

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you know this because for me is
this. I look at it and like,

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if you're going to do a brand, if you're going to do a

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soft brand split, are you going
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or you have dedicated titles? Now, you could do a TNT title on

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one show obviously, and then the
I'm sorry, what are they what?

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They rebrand the mid and Lander the
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International on one show, the t
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do stuff like that and then have
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the two shows. But once again, it just feels like they're over complicating

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what should be a simple solution.
Obviously, if you did a Ring of

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Honor style show, you could put
a punk on Ring of Honor, he's

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got history. You could put FTR
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compete on that show. It would
make a ton of sense. You could

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split the roster that way, it
would it would make a lot of sense

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for folks. But I just to
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like they're trying. They're not They
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in reality there it's way too complicated
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of it at times. All right, So the next chapter here CM,

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Punk and Chris Jericho supposedly have met
with Tony Con and FTR, who were

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also in attendance. Meeting was reported
to be quote unremarkable and quote having gone

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well, Punk and Jericho maybe open
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There was a ton of heat between
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two, and Punk refern of Jericho
is a stooge. In a now deleted

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Instagram post, reportedly Chris Jericho shortly
after the brawl Out two thousand what to

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do like pops his head into punks
locker room. Were confronted, punkin said

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that he was a I believe it
cancer to the locker room. So a

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ton of heat there. Jericho is
someone that does not mince words. You

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have a ton of respect for that. It's also unknown if a similar meeting

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between Punk and the Elite have taken
place, but Punk was reportedly told not

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to reach out to them in the
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It seems to be positive, Doctor
Trey, It's I don't know,

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it's the right thing to do for
the brand. Ultimately right and in reality,

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if they could ever get passes,
it's the right thing for the pocket

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books, you know, for the
sake of the brand. Yes, the

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absolute thing. Because the brawl divided
this roster even more and it created fissures

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not just in between the punk side
and the elite side, but then we

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started hearing about the young guys versus
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or the entire roster. So if
they can start mending this back together,

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you know, it'll never be a
one hundred percent. There's gonna be scars.

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And you know, if if you
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easy to open back up. You
know, they have to hit just the

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right spot. But you know,
you mentioned in Chris Jericho we talk about

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cmpunks. What do we know about
these guys? They do business. They

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understand that, like sometimes you make
hate somebody, but it's still good box

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office and good business to work together. I mean, like we talked about

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like Seth Rollins and UH and Locan
Paul, there's a little bit of legitimate

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beef. Seth Rollins and Cody Rose
a little bit of legitimate beef. Guess

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what those matches were fantastic and people
are talking about them. So it is

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a way to create interest because that
real life blending into the wrestling life creates

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intrigue among fans, and people are
don't talk about it. And you know,

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if when Collision finally gets announced and
it's gonna be in Chicago, guess

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what's gonna happen. People are going
to it in because if Punk's on TV,

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there's going to be a portion that
thinks the elite's gonna show up,

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whether it's true or not, just
to confront of him and where are we

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dialed in? Because the one thing
aw has more than anybody else is legitimate,

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like non scripting of promos, and
that's kind of where some of this

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stuff came from. So it's going
to be really interesting to see what happens

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when that show finally is announced and
finally debuts. So the last couple of

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chapters here of this story are not
shocking, pretty much expected, but this

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part is something that is completely unexpected
because the report that came out Monday night

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reportedly saving that Sampunk reportedly visited this
past Mondays of Raw in Chicago, where

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he was in the Common area for
about twenty minutes. Reportedly, Punk had

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had conversations with Triple H and the
Miss. The convo with the Miss was

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supposedly them clear in the air after
having heat with one another. The overall

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impression was that people we're happy to
see Punk, and many greeted him positively.

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The reports that are kind of conflicting
here that w security did ask Punk

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to leave, which he did respectfully, and it's believed that this came from

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Vince mcmahn. PW Inside reported that
this visit was to clear the air with

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people in Dave Melton reported that the
folks in aw feel Punk could be angling

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for a WWE return. This is
the bizarre angle, Doctor Trey, Because

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I don't know what this is about. I guess Sampunk was on a flight

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back to Chicago with a bunch of
WWE stars. Let's presumably assume that this

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is the from Tampa, Florida,
where he was in to talk to Chris

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Jericho along with reportedly FTR and Tony
Kahan to smooth things over. He's on

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a flight to Chicago with a lot
of WWE talents. What happens on this

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flight, or what happens in Sampunk's
mind that thinks that visiting ww ron Chicago

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and that nobody will know about it, and he's just gonna go and men

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some fences and clear the air is
like beyond me. He has every right

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to be there. And I know
that Bully Ray and Mark Henry on their

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Bustet Open show on Serious like,
Sam, We're not trying to make a

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big deal about it. Mark Henry
said that when w was in Texas,

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and I love this story that I
guess Vince called Mark Henry to come to

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the arena just so he could give
him a hug. Which you know,

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that's what normal men do, right, we all just call each other up,

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be like hey, are you in
town? Yeah? Can you swing

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by and hug me? And we're
all, yeah, absolutely, dude,

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long time no see. But this
is the part that is strange. It's

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like he has so much of these
presumed drama going on right now and he

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decides to add another layer of drama
to it and go to the show and

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say hi to everybody. Well,
he did not leave UI ceremoniously. He

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did not go to court with WWE
or WWS doctors because they just wanted to

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give each other money and feel better
about their relationship and make their friendship stronger.

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He did not say terrible things in
interviews and podcasts and promos about his

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former employer because he loves them.
This is the weird part, Doctor Trey.

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I can't make sense of this.
I guess as a guessing person here,

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I would assume that, yeah,
he's potentially angling for a return.

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I don't think he went there to
clear the air. They could do that

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privately. He could call up Triple
H. He could go to a mediary,

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Like what the fuck is he doing? You guys forget that sometimes you

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forget that this guy is like,
you know, we've been CM punk fans,

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but Punk is one of the best
workers slash politicians. Like he's like

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people don't put him in the jericho
class, but he's up there, like

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he knows how to play the system
and play these games. And whether it's

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you know, leaving WWE, going
to do the UFC stuff, he was

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staying in the limelight and you know, just like the Goldbergs are like bash

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wrestling but still love wrestling, and
you know it's he understands leveraging. It

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is like, look, they're they're
talking about bringing me back in, but

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if Craft goes sideways, what's my
backup plan? Would there be interest in

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me jumping to our company. And
if AW knows that WW might have interest

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with me, and I'm clearing the
air with the people I had the most

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heat with, would it make sense
for right? Do you say, hey,

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we'd rather have him here than WW
using him in a Wrestling Mania spot.

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Like he understands the maneuverings maybe better
than just about anybody else when it

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comes to wrestling and how to play
both sides and hate one side when you

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know you're good here, but then
when the other side's like, oh,

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maybe not so good, let me
back penal play the other way. I

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mean Jericho has done it too.
I mean Jericho is the one who would

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say w And he kept tellingbout how
much of Vince gave him the blessing to

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go do the new Japan stuff,
and when he cited his contrary to aw

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Oh, Vince called me to try
to see if if I get back out

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of the deal. Like these guys
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I mean, this is what they
do is know how to put stuff out

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there. I mean the elite do
it. All these guys do it,

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and it just kind of depends on
who we feel it's in the right who

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we feel into the wrong way.
It comes to that stuff, But that's

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what it is. It's all movements, and it's playing chess and moving the

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board around to where you make sure
you're the most envial position when it's time

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to play your surry. And I
think that's what Punk was doing this,

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you know, past weekend, more
than anything else was I'm gonna deal with

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AW, I'll talk to WWE,
and we'll just kind of go from there

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and see who actually really wants me
and wants you back. And that I

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think he did a great job of
it. Yeah, it makes you wonder

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if maybe on his end of everything
right now is not smooth with AW,

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and maybe he is potentially on his
way out of all ELI wrestling. Maybe

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there's a layer to this story that
we don't know about where it just seems

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like the working relationship is not going
to be beneficial to all parties and he

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needs to go elsewhere, you know, pure speculation on our part. I

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just thought for him to be out
in the open in at w E raw

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visiting was a shock. I mean, there's that video of him talking to

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men to Snooka in the parking lot
and fancy or yelling for him like he

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did not hide. And this is
a guy who's been had a very checker

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in controversial pass with we. It's
been a very rocky relationship between both.

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So with all that said, doctor
Try, I simply ask you this question,

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does a EW need CM Punk?
Um M, I'll say I'll lean

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yes because I still don't feel like
they have the star power to draw.

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I mean, even though it's a
it's a three year old company, they

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are still wrestling fans who maybe haven't
watched it yet, haven't really got invested

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in yet. And you gotta say
when when Punk's there, it feels like

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the rings are up, the pay
per view buys are up. People do

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seem to be the casual he will
seem to be more interested in it,

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and they just don't have that guy
that transcends wrestling over into and not in

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this a pop culture but more like
the from the diehards to the casuals.

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They don't have that guy. I
mean air Coo to a degree, but

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I mean Punk's fan base is so
rabid they will follow him anywhere, and

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you need that guy that fans are
like, yeah, I don't care where

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he goes, I don't have loyalty
the brand. I have loyalty to this

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guy, and they just don't have
that guy on their roster right now.

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I believe AW does need Sampunk.
There are tons of talented wrestlers male and

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female, great acts, highly entertaining
stuff that I enjoy on a week,

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week to week basis, but they
are missing that, you know, guy

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that's recognized as a recognizable name that
is part controversial, part relatable, part

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legendary performer like Sampunk. I mean, he is someone in the last decade

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that people have been clamoring for the
return. And I think more importantly with

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them doing all In and Wembley Stadium
and whether they fill it up to forty

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fifty thousand and sixty thousand and seventy
thousand, eighty thousand or full capacity in

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ninety thousand, they need Sampunk on
that marquee, and they need Sampunk versus

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the elite on that marquee, or
they need Sampunk versus Chris Jericho. Drama

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sells, controversy creates cash and this
is a big controversial topic, a very

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controversial person, and they need him
back in AW. But does cmpunk need

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AW? Doctor Trey does he need
AW to continue his wrestling career, because

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from all that we're hearing is he
wants to return and wrestling, but does

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he need to do it in AW? I think that's what he was trying

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to figure out. Yeah, I'm
going to say right now yes, because

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I mean, if the Curious asking
you to leave the building because Vince said

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told him to do it in order
you to pay to A, yeah,

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you probably need AW right now.
So yeah, I think right now you

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do. But just like we've see
in WW in years past, whether it's

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Brett Hart, Ultimate Warrior, Bruno, they can get past some stuff if

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the money's right and they can capitalize
on it. So yeah, right now,

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Punk needs AW. But nine months
a year from now, well nine

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months heading into WrestleMania season, that
might change. So then the last question,

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do we want see him Punk back
in AW? Yes? Because we

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love the drama. I know we
talk about like seriously, guys like telling

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the drama down, but oh my
gosh, Jeff, like if he comes

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back and like, oh you know
what we might get. We might get

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punk Obega, we might get Punking
Jericho, we might get punking FDR against

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the elites. I'm gonna watch that. I'm gonna see if somebody decides,

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yeah, screw this works stuff,
I'm going I'm going to shoot style in

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this match. There's part of me
that wants although I know it won't happen

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because these guys at the end of
the day are professionals and they would ruin

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their reputation if they went into business
for themselves. There's that part of me

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that's like once in rest of these
there's part of me the ones that Jerry

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Springer aspect to AW because it's gonna
you know, tingle, tingle, the

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fancies events, and I gotta see
what happened. Yeah, I want to

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see c him punk back in AW
because I want to see a feud between

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seampunk Chris Jericho and see him punk
in the elite. There's a lot of

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money there, there's a lot of
intrigue, there's real heat, there's real

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drama, and this brawl Out twenty
twenty two still is this legendary folklore tale.

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We know something happened, but we
don't necessarily know what, and maybe

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AW has been playing this from a
creative standpoint that since our time. I

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tend to think this is a little
bit more legal standpoy and I think it's

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time. I think it's time we
see cm Punk back in AW you and

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I'm excited for it. I think
the brand needs him. I think c

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00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:07.920
Himpunk needs AW and I want to
see him back in AW. So it's

404
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:11.160
been a wild ride, Doctor Trey
recapping everything that's happening here over the last

405
00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:15.440
couple of weeks with cmpunk, It's
it's insane. I mean, the w

406
00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:18.160
layer to this entire thing is just
like what, like, dude, what

407
00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:22.880
are you doing? Because you know
that did not make people happy in AW,

408
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:25.920
Like, what what are you trying
to If you're trying to get back

409
00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:29.640
in the good races of all lead
wrestling, then why are you trying to

410
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:33.200
get back in the good graces of
Tide? Did like something happened? Did

411
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:38.039
a switch happen? We had like
this coming of Jesus conversation with himself and

412
00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:42.119
maybe he has maybe he's realizing,
like it's not worth it to have all

413
00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:47.920
these issues between certain individuals. I
mean that could be. We've all experienced

414
00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:49.960
that in our lives where it's like, man, this that bullshit is just

415
00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:53.759
not worth it. Maybe that's it. I don't know, but just a

416
00:31:53.799 --> 00:32:00.279
Wild Wild couple of weeks here for
one cmpunk, which you know it's not

417
00:32:00.319 --> 00:32:02.559
over yet, Dutch rights. It's
April twenty seventh. We have a lot

418
00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:09.920
of time before June seventeenth, that
first Saturday show reportedly, so there's plenty

419
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:15.279
of time, plenty of time here
for things to either firm up or go

420
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:20.119
haywire. So we don't really know
what Aw's reaction is. Fully Tim going

421
00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:23.759
to Tirah to say hi and bury
the hatchet with people, So who knows?

422
00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:30.039
Who knows right now? Because this
is insane. It really is insane.

423
00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:35.359
It's the most insane thing that we've
experienced since Montreal Right Survivor Series ninety

424
00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:38.559
seven. Yeah, Plane Run,
That's why I was just from Hell.

425
00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:42.119
Yeah, because in my head,
I'm like, you know, plane right

426
00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:44.440
from Hell. We had a dark
side of the ring about it, but

427
00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:47.559
then still like there's still like,
yeah, that wasn't the entire truth and

428
00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:51.960
there's still you know, there's elements
in there whatever. I kind of feel

429
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:58.119
like brawl like the brawl out thing
is this generation's Plane right from Hell,

430
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:02.079
and the whole thing with punk in
AW and WW kind of feels like the

431
00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:06.640
woman who left her husband but then
she's like, maybe we should get back

432
00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:08.839
together. But on the other side, there's this other guy that I used

433
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:12.720
to date before you, and that's
like my high school crush, and I

434
00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:16.039
kind of want to work things out. It's just so weird, like this

435
00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:21.400
whole like dance and maybe at the
other day punk Punk just wants to feel

436
00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:24.960
wanted by somebody, and he's like
the dog that couslely bites you. But

437
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:30.759
then we'll like be really sweet and
like rub you himself against your leg to

438
00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:34.359
remind you how cute he can be
at times as well. You gotta love

439
00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:36.960
the analogy there, and with that, that's how we'll close this out with

440
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:40.000
Sampunk. Let's switch gears to w
W E. The same night that Sampunk

441
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:45.440
visited w RAW in Chicago, Triple
Hed did not announce the return of Sampunk.

442
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:50.440
However, he did announce the return
of the w W World Everyweight Championship.

443
00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:53.240
A new champion will be crowned at
Night of champions in Saudi Arabia.

444
00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:59.079
King and Queen of the Rings is
on hold for now. I was very

445
00:33:59.079 --> 00:34:02.319
excited to see a pay review focusing
on the King and Queen of the Ring

446
00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:07.400
when this got changed the night of
champions. The report was it'll make sense

447
00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:10.239
soon, so you'll you'll understand,
and this is why it's happening, doctor

448
00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:15.840
Trey, as we will have a
new world away champion. Maybe it's a

449
00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:20.840
one night tournament, maybe it's just
a match, but I don't know.

450
00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:24.679
I know people are talking online saying
that this feels like the consolidation prize for

451
00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:30.079
the undisputed w Universal Championship that is
being owned by Roman Reigns right now.

452
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:35.599
It does not look like he will
be giving that up anytime soon. What

453
00:34:35.679 --> 00:34:37.920
do you think, Doctor Trey?
The WORLDWAD Championship is back. Is this

454
00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:43.840
the right move to have two world
champions on the raw and then on the

455
00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:46.639
SmackDown brand? Yeah? I mean, if you're going back to absolute brand

456
00:34:46.679 --> 00:34:50.639
split, is the right thing to
do? You know, For the better

457
00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:52.800
part of the last six months,
it's kind of been as soft brand split

458
00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:57.960
with guys kind of floating back and
forth. And we saw them try to

459
00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:04.119
elevate the U S and IC titles
into filling that void for missing a world

460
00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:08.079
championship, and yeah, I think
they did a decent job of elevating those

461
00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:12.559
belts, but I just don't think
it like, you know, those US

462
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:15.559
title matches were never really main event
matches. Icy Tom matches, for as

463
00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:19.239
great as they were with Gunther,
weren't made event matches because Roman reins casts

464
00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:23.800
a large shadow over both brands,
and until you can start to elevate somebody

465
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:29.920
up to that level, He's going
to be that shadow that kind of you

466
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:34.239
know, causes the flowers not to
bloom because right now nobody viewsed that anybody

467
00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:38.360
on his level. So maybe if
I bringing that title back and making it

468
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:44.280
look different than the one that Roman's
been carrying, it's kind of a you

469
00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:50.800
know, rebirth for you know whatever
brand romans not on to start to elevate

470
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:53.119
somebody else because here and I've been
talking about the better part of a year,

471
00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:58.400
Roman's not going to be around forever. You've got to start getting ready

472
00:35:58.480 --> 00:36:02.199
for the next guy, and getting
into their world title gives you that opportunity.

473
00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:06.800
I liked the move. I think
it's the right move for W I

474
00:36:06.920 --> 00:36:10.400
did not like when they merged both
championships. However, Doctor Trey, the

475
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:16.119
old school fan in me, is
sad that we're not seeing the WWWE championship

476
00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:22.800
return. So I'm assuming that eventually
the undisputed title will be merged off of

477
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:28.119
the Universal Championship, so we'll have
the w Universal Champion, which is a

478
00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:32.079
terrible name for world title um and
the w W World Wweight Championship. So

479
00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:35.480
the old school fan and he's like, oh man, but we're not gonna

480
00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:37.960
have the w E Champion anymore,
Like what the frig are we doing?

481
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:42.960
UM? I love the design of
the belt, it's it's obviously an o

482
00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:46.119
to the big gold belt that was
in w W and NWA for a long

483
00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:51.280
time, to which Triple H also
held when it was on the on the

484
00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:55.719
w E brand as the World waweight
Championship UM following the retirement of the w

485
00:36:55.880 --> 00:37:01.760
c W Championship UM. When it
comes to who I think should be the

486
00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:07.519
first champion, A lot of people
are pointing towards Cody Rhodes, but I

487
00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:10.639
kind of disagree with that, Doctor
Trey. I think it's like a three

488
00:37:10.719 --> 00:37:15.880
headed race. I think it's Cody. I think it's Seth. I think

489
00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:20.840
it's Bobby. I hope that Brock
Lessner does not fall into this as well.

490
00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:22.840
But being that they're in Saudi Arabia, you've got to figure that Brock

491
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:25.400
is gonna have a match on the
card and God, I hope he doesn't

492
00:37:25.400 --> 00:37:29.719
walk out with the World aweight championship
because then people are really going to lose

493
00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:34.639
their mind and think that Vince's back. But I would almost pick I think

494
00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:37.679
i'd picked Bobby Lastly to be the
first champion Doctor Trey, Yeah, I

495
00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:43.880
agree with that if Bobby's a heel, if Bobby's still in baby face,

496
00:37:43.960 --> 00:37:46.079
but like the Almighty, when he
was a heel of MVP was fantastic,

497
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:51.119
one of the better runs we've had
in a while for a world heavyweight champion,

498
00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:54.960
especially in WWE. Bobby is a
baby face, it is not bad,

499
00:37:55.280 --> 00:37:59.480
but the mystique when he was a
heel was just so much better.

500
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:04.280
UM. I would go with Bobby
as well, because as physically imposing as

501
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:07.119
he is, one of the things
we talked about with Cody was Cody needs

502
00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:13.760
obstacles to overcome, and there are
not very many obstacles bigger than Roman Rains,

503
00:38:13.800 --> 00:38:17.039
Brock Lesser and then Bobby Lastly for
a baby face to overcome. So

504
00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:22.519
I think that would be good positioning
if you're building Cody to be that next

505
00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:25.440
guy. UM. By the way, do we still will put the word

506
00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:31.400
heavyweight in for a world champion because
we've had several champions who have been basically

507
00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:36.719
cruiserweight level in weight. Um,
So I really don't like just call the

508
00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:38.679
w W world champion. I mean, you're seeing that ran out in aw

509
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:42.880
right, Like, I'm pretty sure
I weigh more than at least three out

510
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:46.960
of the four guys potentially in that
double or nothing match. I think Jade

511
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:52.079
has you beat though, Jade Cargill, Yeah, oh yeah, but absolutely

512
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:55.679
because it's just muscle. Um,
I mean I would, Yeah, we're

513
00:38:55.719 --> 00:39:00.599
gonna go down a rabbit hole there, um. And nonetheless, World Championship

514
00:39:01.679 --> 00:39:06.760
is back. I like the move, I like the design. The eventual

515
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:10.639
first champion is going to be very
interesting on the direction of where they go

516
00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:15.239
and where they go from here.
It's the right call with the w brands

517
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:20.880
because just Roman as the undisputed universal
champion, it just it was not It

518
00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:22.960
wasn't working like they shouldn't have done
in the first place. I get why

519
00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:27.480
they did it to add more intrigue
to that match, but at some point

520
00:39:27.480 --> 00:39:30.119
they should have figured out a way
to split this back up, and I

521
00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:32.079
guess this is the right way to
do it. I think creatively, you're

522
00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:36.920
kind of like what do you do, Like, hey, Roman, you're

523
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:39.199
going to keep the universal title,
give me that one back the championship,

524
00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:43.000
and we're going to crown a new
champion. I guess you could have done

525
00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:47.320
that, But the w W World
aweight Championship is back and we'll have a

526
00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:52.559
new champion by the end of next
month with the new world title real quick.

527
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:54.840
Ironically enough, the last time I
believe this happened, it actually did

528
00:39:54.920 --> 00:40:01.280
involve you ple age with Brock being
the undisputed champion and then trip or Bischoff

529
00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:06.800
recreating a belt he just gave it
to him. Yeah, it was the

530
00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:09.760
worst thing possible. Well, why
don't just come out and just hand the

531
00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:13.800
belt to somebody and then we just
go full circle. So the storyline on

532
00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:15.800
that was a triple h won some
sort of match to become the new number

533
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:21.280
one contender to Brock's undisputed championship.
And then at that same episode, I

534
00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:25.880
believe Brock went to a lima with
Stephanie and Stephanie, who was feuding with

535
00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:30.480
Eric Bischoff because they were both the
general manager. Stephanie SmackDown Eric Bischoff with

536
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:35.800
raw was like, we have now
signed m Brock lesser exclusively to our brand,

537
00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:38.440
so you are without a world champion. And then like the next week

538
00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:44.000
on Raw, Eric Bischof just opened
up either a briefcase, a Deuffel bag,

539
00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:47.199
whatever and handed Triple H to the
Big Gold Belt, which I thought

540
00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:52.480
was the lamest way possible to do
it. I think Vince comes out and

541
00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:55.480
just hands the belt to Austin Theory. Hey, we know he's been doing

542
00:40:55.519 --> 00:41:00.760
some rewrites, so it's always possible. Actually, he just does some sort

543
00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:07.960
of like AI generation and the United
States Championship becomes the w Whorleyweight Championship.

544
00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:10.480
We come to find out that his
match with Sina at Rustamenty thirty nine was

545
00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:14.400
actually for that title, and nobody
knew it, not even the competitors.

546
00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:19.840
So congratulations Austin Theory. And then
finally Doctor Trey. The big news here

547
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:23.039
started on Friday night on SmackDown.
Monday on Raw is the twenty twenty three

548
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:27.760
W draft. Who should be moved, which tag teams need to be split

549
00:41:27.840 --> 00:41:30.679
up, Which NX call ups could
we expect? It's all things that we're

550
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:36.840
thinking about going into Friday and Monday. Some moves that I'm thinking about here,

551
00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:39.480
Doctor Trey has moved gun through an
Imperium to Raw, move Austin Theory

552
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:44.599
to SmackDown, have rear Ripley and
Bianca bel Air switch brands. I don't

553
00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:46.639
know if you need to do that
lame title switch again. I would keep

554
00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:52.119
Judgment Day in LWO on Raw or
move LWO to Raw, just so that

555
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:55.159
they get some more time. I
would split up the Street Profits amlicably so

556
00:41:55.320 --> 00:42:00.280
that there's not some weird little tension
and split up Chad Gable the smack Down

557
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:04.639
otis to Raw. Start pushing Chad
Gable and montes Ford now on SmackDown's mid

558
00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:07.440
card Guys Vine for the US title
and then for NXC. I would call

559
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:12.000
it pretty deadly to Raw, which
they were written off of NXC this past

560
00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:16.679
Tuesday, so it seems like a
foregn conclusion. Finally make Cameron Guyme Grimes

561
00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:21.639
appear on television for the first time
in months. I would move Zoe Start

562
00:42:21.719 --> 00:42:25.679
to Raw, and I would move
Grayson Waller to Raw from NXT. There's

563
00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:30.840
reports out there that Broun Breaker and
core Jade are going to be backstage on

564
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:36.159
SmackDown on Friday. Not known if
that will be for main event tapings or

565
00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:39.679
if they're going to be drafted who
core Jade's name has been reportedly been thrown

566
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:45.039
around as a potential call up from
NXT doctor. I'm excited for the draft

567
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:47.960
on Friday and Monday. Those are
some things that I'm thinking about. What

568
00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:52.639
are you thinking about heading into Raw
and Smackdowns versions of the draft? I

569
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:55.960
really like there are some things I
want to see, but like in reality,

570
00:42:57.039 --> 00:43:00.920
I don't expect all those things that
happen. I just want to see

571
00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:05.119
some switching up of things. I
want to see some freshness to it.

572
00:43:05.679 --> 00:43:08.159
You know, you mentioned Braun and
Cora. They're actually dating in real life,

573
00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:12.440
so the fact that you know,
maybe they get paired up, maybe

574
00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:15.280
they hit him in the same brand. You know, they like to keep

575
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:19.079
them married couples together. So wherever
Becky goes, Seth goes, wherever Montes

576
00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:22.320
goes, Bianca goes. I think
you do have to do if they switch

577
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:24.719
brands, that they do have to
do the town switch because you can't have

578
00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:30.719
Ria on Raw as a SmackDown Women's
champion and Bianca on SmackDown as the Raw

579
00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:34.519
Women's champion. That's just weird.
So like, I think they do have

580
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:42.360
to do the awkward title exchange type
thing. Like we all know Montes need

581
00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:45.400
to be a breakout single star.
But you know, I just don't want

582
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:49.400
Dawkins to be tuckered, if that
makes sense. Like I mean, Ohis

583
00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:52.440
and Tucker broke up and then Tucker
turned heel for like what like a month

584
00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:55.920
and was gone. Yeah, j
I think Dawkins is very very talented,

585
00:43:57.000 --> 00:43:59.960
by the way, Yeah, but
I also thought Tucker was pretty good.

586
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:02.599
He was very talented as well,
good talker. Yeah, and it was

587
00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:07.360
kind of weird that it was just
Okay, we like Otis and Tucker's gone.

588
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:10.400
So I just don't want Dakas to
get tuckered or janettied because I do

589
00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:16.000
think Dawkins is a fantastic talent and
can talk and can wrestle. He's kind

590
00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:19.599
of like, to me, he's
like a bigger de lo If, Like

591
00:44:19.679 --> 00:44:22.599
I don't know if that's a good
comparison not, but he's agile, big,

592
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:25.480
strong and can talk and is Um, I just don't I think he's

593
00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:29.519
the kind of guy that you don't
want to make him a heal, but

594
00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:34.800
he could be a good mid level
baby face. Um. I do I

595
00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:37.719
really want to see Otis with maximum
mail bottles and yeah, that means you

596
00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:42.400
man to move Chad away. But
Chad's a fantastic wrestler and you can put

597
00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:45.920
him in anything and he's gonna be
good. Um. So I'm just really

598
00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:49.800
looking forward to seeing how this all
plays out. Like I don't know if

599
00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:54.920
I'm a fan of the LWO being
baby faces, but I think flipping Judgment

600
00:44:55.039 --> 00:44:59.840
Day and Imperium makes sense. So
that way the LW can fee with Imperium

601
00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:05.280
and Judgment Day. Can you know, battle Bloodline or somebody else on SmackDown

602
00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:07.400
and move stuff around. So those
those makes some sense to me. But

603
00:45:08.039 --> 00:45:12.639
I'm just excited seas and freshness and
changes. I'm really looking forward to seeing

604
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pretty Deadly on either Raw or SmackDown
because we've talked about the lots of it.

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They're they're They're arguably my favorite act
in WWS not named Kevin owns the

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Samy's name, so whatever they do, I'm always intrigued by. So looking

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forward to seeing them on the main
roster. So what I've come to learn

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is that I think SmackDown as a
two hour show should be utilized as a

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show where there's folks that are established
wrestlers, um, while Raw has established

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wrestlers on their brand. Um.
I also like when people are able to

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develop their character a little bit more
on Raw than they would be on SmackDown,

612
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like when when we when we saw
them not being written out by Vince

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Damage Controls of the World, Candice
La Rays meech in like those the female

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stars are getting a little bit more
time than they would on a RAW.

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I think talents that could use a
little bit more shine, like gun Throne

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Imperium could be great on Raw.
Lwo on Raw. I think the Judgment

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Day has very much benefited from elevating
their game over the last year by being

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on Raw and having a little bit
more time than if they were on SmackDown.

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Like you see folks that go to
SmackDown, they kind of get lost

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in the shuffle and aren't utilized as
much. So that's how I think about

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things. It's like, Okay,
Raw is a brand that has established stars,

622
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but also stars that are you know, getting a little bit more time.

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SmackDown is the established stars. So
maybe Austin theory to SmackDown works,

624
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Maybe Cody to SmackDown works. It's
going to be interesting how these two rosters

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look in a week's time. Doctor
Trey and I'm excited for it. I

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think this is really cool and fun
time time because things that you don't expect

627
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typically happened during the draft, So
I'm excited to see where things shake up

628
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on Friday SmackDown and then Monday's Raw. No. Absolutely, I mean like

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we talked about, like I've been
literally here watching the NFL Draft talking about

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the w w E Draft, and
I'm like, yeah, like I've been

631
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playing Madden the last two months just
because of NFL drafting, and I've been

632
00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:30.840
playing SmackDown or I've been playing two
K twenty three for WB because of the

633
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GM mode and the drafting and things
like that and trying different things out.

634
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And so it's always that that element
of the unknown and a little bit of

635
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like we used to do with your
kids, of dream matchups, weird tag

636
00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:49.480
teams that you could put together out
of nowhere. And the draft in ww

637
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has always been kind of fun.
I mean the original draft back in the

638
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day with like Vince and Flair and
all those stuff, those were really fun.

639
00:47:55.639 --> 00:47:59.400
The last few years has kind of
been like, yeah, these guys

640
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are gonna well, we kind of
knew what was going to happen, but

641
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since we haven't had it done in
eighteen months, almost two years. It

642
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kind of feels fresh and different.
It's like it's a good way to kind

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of once again use raw and build
the new stars because you can flash out

644
00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:16.400
the characters, like Jeff was talking
about, you SmackDown to build you know,

645
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main event, top level money drawing
guys. Because they're on Fox.

646
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:24.480
There's supposing more people. If you
go into the draft with that mindset,

647
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you might come out thinking that,
hey, Raw got the worse of the

648
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deal, but nine months from now, because you've been able to flesh out

649
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:35.760
characters, that Raw roster gets really
fun, really quick. And we saw

650
00:48:35.880 --> 00:48:39.039
that with you know, Kevin and
Sammy and everybody in you know, Judgment

651
00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:45.239
Day and Dominic and everybody else because
they had more time to present themselves on

652
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Raw than they typically do on SmackDown. So there go Draft Preview. Will

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recap and review it on next week's
edition. The podcast had into the lovely,

654
00:48:53.360 --> 00:48:59.679
lovely month of May. Doctor Trey, it's been fun recapping CM Punk

655
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the World hay Way Championship in Draft
on this week edition of the pod.

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Before we close up shop, let's
get a couple of plugs and sponsors out

657
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659
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forget to rate, review and subscribe
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us individual on Twitter for myself at
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The Doctor Trey. And of course
don't forget to follow show on Twitter at

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SRTU podcast. With that being said, what's going on in the wonderful world

663
00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:29.599
of Ductor Trey Franklin this week?
Well, like Jeff said, you can

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follow me on Twitter at the Doctor
Trey, find me on Instagram, Facebook,

665
00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:36.199
Doctor Trey Franklin when you're on Facebook, the Church. I got Rocket

666
00:49:36.199 --> 00:49:43.280
City Championship Wrestling and we are just
two shows from wrestling con May twentieth from

667
00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:46.679
Beautiful Hazel Green, Alabama, headline
by Dalton Castle and the Boys being in

668
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:51.480
the building. We've had some matchups
announced in Body Taken on Verry coll Off

669
00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:58.079
of the rocket City TV Championship,
Travis Locke against Chase Owens. I'm not

670
00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:01.320
sure who Dalton Castle's performing against,
but looking forward to that one as well.

671
00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:06.400
Uh. And then I have a
football question, in a football wrestling

672
00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:10.440
question to Jeff Back. Okay,
uh Luke van Metz any relation to Hot

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Mess Laurel van Ness No, I
don't believe so, but I will have

674
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to check that out on wikip all
right. I just I didn't know if

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like we're gonna see Luke Luke,
the Lucas Vondez and like hanging out with

676
00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:23.840
Matt cardonus nowhere. Hey, you
never know, maybe GCW, maybe Disney.

677
00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:28.280
He's a he's a handsome man.
Jeff, You've got a very good

678
00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:31.400
looking defensive and I will say that
dude's got a great haircut and like he

679
00:50:31.840 --> 00:50:36.239
he looks like one of those next
in line prospects we see popping up down

680
00:50:36.280 --> 00:50:38.880
the PC. Hey, that's the
criteria. If if you look like you're

681
00:50:39.079 --> 00:50:42.840
handsome and could potentially be a w
W star, that's what we want you

682
00:50:42.960 --> 00:50:45.199
in Green Bay. So um,
lots of good stuff going on the world

683
00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:49.280
profession around saying month of May is
gonna be very very busy with double or

684
00:50:49.440 --> 00:50:52.760
nothing, um backlash, which will
recap we'll previ and predict on next week's

685
00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:59.719
addition to the podcast, along with
the Draft, UM the Night of Champions

686
00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:04.880
NXT Battleground. Lots of things changing
here in the world of professional wrestling that

687
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will basically shape and mold everything that
goes on the next eight weeks will shape

688
00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:12.039
and mold the rest of professional wrestling, in my opinion, for the next

689
00:51:12.119 --> 00:51:15.559
year, and we'll have it all
here for you each and every week on

690
00:51:15.639 --> 00:51:19.079
the Still Real Though Show. So
until next week, thank you for downloading.

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For Dr Franklin, I'm Jeff Pack. This is the show. It

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