The Rock takes Cody Rhodes' spot at WrestleMania 40 | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #730 – 2/8/24

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It's still welcome, everybody. Welcome
to this week's edition is Surreal That show

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episode number seven hundred and thirty for
February eighth, twenty twenty four. This

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year, NFC vengis a recap and
review editions of as R Gee You.

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I am one half of the show. I am Jeff Peck, joined every

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single week on looking at by my
co host One Way, Doctor Tray Franklin,

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Doctor Trey. They're telling us to
play the long game here, my

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friend, trust the process, play
the long game, believe in the higher

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you know, all those all those
great analogies that we used to hear from,

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like you know, you're rebuilding sports
Ranisis, we're hearing from bro Wrestling.

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So yeah, Jeff, I'm gonna
trust the process and keep getting high

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draft picks and maybe one of the
whole fan out That's what I'm going with.

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So let's get right into it here. I don't really have to recap

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everything that's been going on for the
most part because it's been nearly a week

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later. This episode is dropping Thursday
morning, well ahead of the press conference

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that is set to air Thursday night
on Peacock, which is tuning into Like

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Mussy television now, so props at
we for a press event turning into mussy

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television. But we are in a
very strange time period in professional wrestling right

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now, where on Friday Night,
it's funny because go back a month ago,

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Day one of twenty twenty four,
extremely excited Rock and Roman reigns.

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Months prior, Rock is on College
Game Day or he's on ESPN and Pat

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McAfee show. He's talking about how
he was supposed to face Roman Rains the

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restume of thirty nine, and then
he makes a surprise appearance with Pat McAfee

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on SmackDown that night. Everybody it's
like, oh, this is exciting.

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Rock and Roman reigns. Rock and
Roman reigns well, it appears we finally

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get it, and fans are pissed. Why because the Royal rumble happened.

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Cody Rhodes won. Cody Rhodes pointed
at Roman reigns. The whole thing we've

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been behind is to finish your story, Cody, and the story is to

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go through Roman reigns. Well.
On Friday Night SmackDown, we perceive that

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he stepped out of the way,
paused his story, said the plan was

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still to go after Roman reigns.
At some point the plan was still to

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go after the WA Championship, but
stepped aside to give that shot at WrestleMania

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to the Rock, and then the
Internet blew up, Doctor Trey. Leave

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it to a guy from AW to
say something that blows up the internet now,

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just kidding. Yeah, uh,
I still have not completely wrapped my

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head around Friday Night because it makes
the way they set it up makes zero

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sense, which is so why I
totally understood the internet being upset. But

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yeah, at the same time,
you and I sat here a couple of

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weeks ago and said, what is
the bigger money making match, the biggest

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draw, what would get people to
buy into Peacock? And the answer is

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Rock versus Roman ratings. So I
totally get why the hardcore fan base is

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upset because you work your ass off
to win the royld Rumble, to get

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a match to Maine event WrestleMania,
and you just let it go and don't

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really explain why. So I,
for the first time, probably in the

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Triple h tenure, we have something
booked that does it make sense that doesn't

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have tie ins, like if Cody
Roads had come out and said I'm giving

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my shot to Randy Orton, I
would have been like, okay, cool,

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they're friends legacy like Randy helped bring
Cody up. There's really not a

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Rock Cody Rock Dusty tight connection really, So it's it's confusing. But on

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paper, if you just said,
hey, at WrestleMania, what match would

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draw more people to to Peacock Rock
versus Roman would win? That would win

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that hands down. Yeah. And
and what's funny about this entire thing is

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I am a huge fan of the
Rock. The Rock is probably my favorite

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wrestler of all time. Okay,
hold on, hold on, hold on.

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How many of the Rocks product lines
have you bought into because of the

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Rock, like the under armour and
all that stuff, the under armour,

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the VODK or the tequila like nony
Funny enough, I have not. I've

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not ever bought into any of that
stuff. I don't need more under armor

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clothes, and I've got more tequila
up above my eyebrows that I still have

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to get to. Not as big
of a drinker as I used to be.

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Plenty of patrons sitting here in my
casa. As one may say,

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but I do really want to try
chamana, I must say. But I'm

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a huge fan of the Rock.
Things that I have invested in is a

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ton of merchandise WWE related merchandise of
the Rock. I own the T shirt

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stuff like that. The real last
time I went to wrestling shows that I

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really wanted to, like go to
was Survivor Series two thousand and eleven,

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two thousand and twelve. I think
it was the one in MSG where Cmpunk

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won the title and started as Ran. I think those twenty eleven and we're

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retaged with scene against the Awesome Truth, which is now since reunited, So

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maybe Rock is actually teaming with Sina
for another rematch there against Awesome Truth,

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who's reunited at wrestmting. That's what
this is all leading to. And then

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Wrestlemaning twenty nine, which I've talked
about at great length, Like my goal

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was to always go to a Wrestleman
in my life bucket list item I did

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it, loved it. Rock was
in the main event of that match against

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John Cena, lost and was basically
his last full time wrestling match, unless

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you're counting the match that he had
with Eric Rowan at Wrestleman thirty one that

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was impromptu, but nonetheless like a
huge fan of the rock, like my

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favorite of all time promos in ring
stuff, loved the Rock. So when

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I knew he was coming back,
I was like super excited, super stoked.

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Going back to September October the Day
one episodes, like if you go

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back and listen to those podcasts,
there is legit ex signment for me and

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Doctor Trey when it comes to Cody
Rhodes. I'm not the biggest Cody Rhodes

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fanom all time. His character to
me is the next you know, path

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of Sina rains to Cody, like
it appears Cody is going to become the

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face of w w W, and
I like Cody a lot. He's really

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won me over. You go back
to those episodes when aw was launching,

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I did not have nice things to
say about Cody Rhodes because the amount of

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times that he was like poking at
w w W when awhid not launched,

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had a single show yet I think
I use the words of like he came

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off like a used car salesman,
which I've heard people say in the past

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about him. But he has really
won me over as time has gone on,

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So you would think when this moment
happened on SmackDown, I would be

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all for the Rock coming out challenging
Roman Reigns, and when he came out,

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I was, and then the realization
hit me, like holy crap,

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Like this does not make any sense
at all. And a week ago when

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we did the podcast, we even
discussed if they went down to the Rock

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Roman Reigns, you know, going
to Cody and Seth Rollins, like how

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they got to get there, because
it's not going to make sense, and

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so far in less than a week's
time pre media event on Thursday night in

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Las Vegas, it doesn't make sense. And I think that's the biggest problem

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in this all, where if Cody
didn't lose to Rome in the way he

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did last year, if Cody didn't
win the Rumble like he did this year

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and point to Roman Reigns, then
Rock interjecting himself into this storyline would make

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sense. But they went the way
that they went, even with planting seeds

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throughout this last month and people being
excited and completely have I don't want to

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say they've fucked it up because we
don't know how this fully plays out yet

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and WWE seems to think like telling
their fan base, I mean Cody Road

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is literally twitting it out. Trust
me, I don't know how this is

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going to play out, but from
what I know in less than a week's

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time, the way that it has
played out is not good booking. Fans

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want to see Cody cash in.
They want to see him finish his story.

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I'm a fan who's invested. I
want to see him finish his story.

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It makes a ton of sense.
The Rock and Roman Reigns doesn't need

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a title. The Rock and Roman
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You've already gotten us this far to
believe that we were going to get Cody

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Roman too, and the likelihood of
him finally overcoming that and winning the WE

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Championship seems very very possible. And
then they did what they did on Friday,

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Doctor Trey And for the biggest rock
fan that there is, for someone

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who wants to see him wrestle and
be a regular participant in w when he's

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available and can do it, boy, oh boy, I don't want to

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see him play out like this like
it has so far. Yeah, Like

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part of it is the storyline,
and art of it is the real life

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stuff for me, Like the storyline. You know you you watch these two

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rumbles, and you watch and for
us like you and I watching, you

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know, and you know, watching
Bailey win and what a moment it was

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for her. And even though she's
a heel quote unquote heel character at the

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time, you're like, oh,
this would be really good. Plus it's

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great for her career because it's like
the one thing on her list she hadn't

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done yet, and all these other
things like that we talked about and we've

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spent the last fifteen twenty years,
twenty five years, we see going back

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to Sean Michaels, you know,
really when they started doing the whole like

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the winner of the Rumble, you
know, gets the shot at WrestleMania.

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Like we've been trained that winning the
Rumble is so very important, how life

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changing it is, and what an
opportunity is. And you and I,

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like, you know, for some
of us, you know, one of

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the best memories we have is the
night that you know, Eddie Guerrero and

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Chris bin Wall won their championships,
but that was tied into what happened at

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the Rumble, Like all these things
we have watched happen to have somebody step

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aside and give that opportunity to somebody
else is mind blowing, and you can

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look at it one of two ways. It's almost like Cody would did it,

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you know, character wise, Cody
did it because you know The Rock

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asked him? Or is Cody scared
or is Cody so cocky that he just

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knows he's gonna get another shot at
it, So none of those things really

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tie in to make that character look
good. And then you get all this

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stuff from you know, The Rock
joining TKO's board of directors and getting the

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rights to use the name The Rock. You know that he's had to pay

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for license for years from WWE,
and you know the the thirty million dollars

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stock options he got, and then
all of a sudden, now he's thrust

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into the main event of wrestling.
Me Like, all those things come together

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for those diehard wrestling fans, and
it's understandable why everybody's so upset. You

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know, if I was here a
fancy booking in my head and like,

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okay, you know what they you
know they could have done. Has had

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Cody win the Rumble, but have
Randy win the title, and you could

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have done Cody and Randy and we
would all be like, oh, that

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would be really good. You still
could have done Rock and Rollman and Seth

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and Gunther and had a really good
WrestleMania car of that, or Seth and

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Drew back or whatever you want to
do and still have a really great WrestleMania

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car to not have everybody beat this
upset. So it's confusing. I I

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think Triple H and creative WB I
have earned my uh faith so to speak,

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that it will all play out and
work well between now and WrestleMania.

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But yeah, the initial reaction is
just like WTF, Like what the what?

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What they have? Guys, like
this makes zero sense at all based

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on what the Cody character has had. You and I. When Cody lost

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to WrestleMania, we all said it's
good for his aracter because now he has

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to overcome obstacles to get back to
the rematch. He overcame all these obstacles

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and they gave the rematch up or
right now. It just doesn't make sense

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for the Cody character right now.
Yeah, that's the biggest thing. It

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doesn't make sense. What would have
made sense if you wanted Rock Roman for

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the title would have been Rock making
an appearance at the Rumble, winning the

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Rumble and going from there for their
match, and would people have been up

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in arms still, probably not as
bad. I think they would have saved

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face, and I think fans would
have been excited. I'm kind of jaded

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right now based on all the reactions
that fans are having, But let us

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not forget that the live crowd in
Birmingham, Alabama on Friday night was like

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super excited. I think that's because
they were caught off guard, probably didn't

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think that they would see the Rock
live. The fans day one, that

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reaction was phenomenal and what they were
looking for. The execut cusian here of

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all of this just does not make
sense. And doctor Trey made mention of

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like how we got there, And
there is a lot of conflicting reports right

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now. There are reports out there
that once Punk went down with injury,

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once Lesner went out because of all
the allegations that are taking place with John

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Lennon and I sits like man and
and Brock Lesler's name allegedly you know,

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being alluded to in the lawsuit,
that Rock came in and felt that he

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needed to save WrestleMania. There was
also reports out there that Rock threw his

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political power TKO Board of directors or
figureheads basically super ceded what creative wanted to

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do and supplemented Rock into the storyline
and moved Cody out of it and Cody

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was replaced. There are reports out
there that people are starting to think that

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this is all one big storyline and
this is what w wanted to have happened

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there. You know, you've got
Brian Gerertz, who is a former w

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WE creat writer, a right hand
man for the Rock, who is now

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going to be involved with the creative
process now that Rock is involved until WrestleMania,

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that is saying like basically playing the
long game. Rock came out with

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a video on Instagram on Wednesday night, landing in Las Vegas, mentioning the

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long game. Like I said before, Cody Road saying trust me, it's

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Monday Night's Raw. They did not
come out and say Cody did not come

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out and say he is picking Seth
Rollins. He made you believe it he

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would be picking Seth Rollins on Monday's
Raw. But maybe something changing creative.

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The whole thing is completely cloudy right
now, and if the execution of this

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solves itself soon, maybe they can
save face. But I would say that

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while they've created a buzz. I
don't think it's the buzz that you tend

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to want. I don't think Rock
came back to wrestling to wrestle Roman Reigns

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to get booed, to be called
a hypocrite for his for him to be

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like using alleged political power, for
his daughter who works in NXT, to

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have to shut down her ex account
because people are giving her death threats,

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which is just absurd for a wrestling
storyline where Rocky sucks Chance are being said

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on WE television for the first time
in like twenty five years, and according

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to Wrussell votes on X that threw
off people behind the scenes that they did

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not expect Rocky sucks chance. I
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back to WW to cash in on
some alleged stock bonus that's maybe like thirty

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million dollars if he performs for WW
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And I know that there's a figure
speech out there to doctor Trey that

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you know, any publicity is good
publicity. And I believe it's Eric Bishop

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who always has said controversy creates cash. But I don't know sitting here today

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February eighth, twenty twenty four,
that this is all the right controversy and

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publicity that you want for the company
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We've made up so much ground in
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was lost for a very long time
in your wrestling product, regained it and

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have had some of the best business
in years potentially. Ever recently, I

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don't think that they wanted to all
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like, you know, I was
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you know, maybe they should have
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didn't that be I was like that
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Rumble, But the fans wanted Daniel
Bryant and it changed wrestle media plans and

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everything else. And you know,
I've heard the different things like, hey,

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this is a setup to actually you
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Bryant level, a fan fervor just
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eventual rematch even more. You know, all these different things, and You're

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right, like, to me,
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you know, if let's say Cody
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Jimmy just come out annihilate him,
and the Rock makes the same and then

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you're like, ooh, Rock,
Roman, there you go. And then

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Cody has to kind of rehab for
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because you don't know if they don't
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and Cody ends up in something else, like we could have we could

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have worked with that, you know, or something. You know, there

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are ways of doing it that would
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those chants. And the crazy thing
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I'm in Memphis, and I'm hearing
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friends of my taking pictures with the
Rock outside the area, and I'm like,

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oh my god, this is gonna
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And it's been one of the craziest
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wise, everything else, in quite
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to Philadelphia, where Rock and Roman
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Rumble a few years back, and
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unless they changed, unless they fix
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their side, that match might get
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Philadelphia, because we know what a
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with the storyline for those matches.
I mean, I saw people saying that

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this could be like like John Cena
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like, I don't think it'll be
that level, but I mean it could

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be one of those things where people
just like, you know, like Rock

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at the Wrestleman of New Orleans I
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the main events. So it's really
really imperative on them for this press conference

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in this episode of Frederick's SmackDown to
go really well for them to hopefully alter

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this this avalanche of negative emotion coming
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positive press for the last two years. As far as the in ring product,

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in the storyline, product goes,
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is everybody else aside? So Doctor
Trey. One of the things that we've

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we've talked about here, right like, obviously we're trying to think of long

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game, trust, the process,
blah blah blah, right, and we

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want to think about solutions. One
of the things that we've heard in reports

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and one of the things that we've
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the show is that Roman would defend
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Rock in both nights at WrestleMania.
I think that that's a very possible destination

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in this all is that say,
night one it's Rock and Roman, and

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Night two Cody Roads face is the
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a very real possibility right now?
Was the plan all along? I just

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have this feeling that maybe by next
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is. And I think the plan
of which we've discussed. I don't remember

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if it was like for last year's
wrestuming or this upcoming one, but we've

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talked about in the show we could
see a scenario where Roman is facing Cody

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one night, Roman's facing Rock the
next night. Yeah, it was last

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year, and I talked about last
year leading the last year's because that Rock

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with Roman match had been rumored for
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now is, here's a scenario.
Let's say Rock and Roman go at it

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on Night one and Roman wins,
but it's a twenty minute match, twenty

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five minute match, and then Cody
wins Night two. Now there's a cloud

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over it. If you're a wrestling
fan, say, well, the only

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reason Cody won is because Roman head
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So are you really getting that clan
when of Cody fishing story or is

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there always gonna be like an asterisk
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on Cody beating Roman, you want
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be no doubt, because that shit, that's almost like the passing of the

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torch, so to speak, from
the face of the current generation to the

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face of the next generation. So
I don't know if I'm not born with

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it like to me right now,
they've almost put themselves into a weird position

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where you can't really pull the trigger
on Cody and Roman until SummerSlam, and

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even then, is it really finishing
the story if it's at Summer Slam I'm

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not at a WrestleMania, so I
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appease everybody right now, because every
scenario right now is still a yeah but

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types of situation, because the whole
point of the Rubble is to face the

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champion that you want to face at
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the the new two K twenty four
games coming out here right in a couple

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of weeks actually, I think it
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wrestlemedia. The whole point of that
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So I don't really know how they
properly finish the story to make everybody

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happy right now, considering what they've
done since Royal Roambo. Yeah, it's

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all very strange, very all convoluted. We'll obviously, I would imagine this

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picture is a little bit more clear
a week from around when we sit down

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and do the podcast than it is
presently. Maybe it's a little bit more

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clearer tonight d during the media event, depending on when folks who are listening

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to this Thursday night. Maybe at
this point you know what's happened at the

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media event, and knowing what happened
on SmackDown by the time you listen to

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this podcast and you listen to us
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pre all of those situations taking place. But it's a very interesting situation.

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I know there's been scenarios out there
that it would be Rock and Roman,

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Seth and Cody. Cody wins he
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and when I heard that, I
was, I like threw up in

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my mouth, like, we don't
need we don't need another unification match.

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Been there, done it. I
hate it as it is. I hate

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that the WE Championship is not the
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Sometimes it's referred to the Universal Championship. Sometimes it's the undisputed W Universal Championship.

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It's just like, I'm just tired
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doing titled unification matches unless you're permanently
retiring a championship. Other than that doesn't

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make sense. So I just I
have no idea where things are going right

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now. So I think just to
tie this all up, Doctor Trey,

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because I know a lot of people
wanted to hear our thoughts on this.

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I saw emails I got I got
stuff on Twitter that I saw that people

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wanted to hear what we had to
say about it. So what is the

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best outcome in this all? Is
the best outcome Rock Roman? Just excuse

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me? Cody versus Roman takes place. Rock doesn't wrestle at wrestlming he forty,

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Maybe he serves as the guest host. Maybe he serves as the special

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guest referee for that match. What
is what is the solution that you want

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to see play out that you think
makes fans happy? Because I can't believe

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it here we are five weeks later, because five weeks ago you and I

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were and we are saying this in
our responses, like Rock and Roman is

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a dream match, but the way
that they have executed so far is extremely

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poor, and we would rather see
a Cody Roman match. So what what

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makes the fans happy? Because that's
what WW has to do, is they

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have to serve their fan base,
especially for the biggest show of the year.

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So as a Restlue fan, what
I would do is I would have,

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you know, do the press conference
and how's the match? Then either

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on SmackDown this like either this Friar
the one of the one of the SmackDown's

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coming up, and now it's which
match I'm getting? Okay, Okay,

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I got you. I'm sorry.
And as Roman and Rock is the match

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for WrestleMania, and Cody hasn't made
a choice, you do SmackDown or you

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do a SmackDown either this Friday or
next Friday where the Bloodline jumps Rock beats

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him down. John Cena makes the
safe right Cody, They say Rock can't

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wrestle or Rocks you know what Rock
and Sina wants Solo and Jimmy says they're

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the ones attack. Then Cody gets
the shot at Roman, and so you

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get Rock Sena against Solo and Jimmy
Cody versus Roman, and then you can

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do Seth versus Drew versus Sammy on
the Rock side. So but you don't

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do Jimmy versus Jay and Mania.
Now, unfortunately, I think you have

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to You have to pass on,
are you? Or you do Rock and

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Solo? I don't like to me, the path has got to be you

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got to get back to Cody and
Roman if you want to make the fans

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happy, unless you do something so
out of left field that you and I

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who have been watching wrestling for forty
is almost seventy years combined. If you're

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on watching wrestling, that something so
left fielding you and I don't see it

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coming because right now you and I
have literally probably fancy booked every angle we

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could think of in the last twenty
minutes trying to figure out the way to

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get to this. But unless you
do something so dramatically that makes the fans

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want this match so bad, and
maybe it's we go back to the old

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Jeff Peck idea of you know,
a couple of years ago where Roman starts

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insulting Rock's mom, you know,
there was something like that, like I

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don't I don't really know. I
always thought that that would hit I thought

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that would be a really good segment
if they did that, or Roman spears

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Ava, you know, or something
so like heinous that we want Rock to

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get revenge on the Roman for because
right now it's just this is just a

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sorry for my language, it's a
dick measuring contest between Rock and Roman.

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Yeah, that's what's boiling down to
who's the head of the table. Mine's

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bigger than yours. Like there,
you go back and forth, like it's

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all ego. You have to somehow
make this personal for us to really care,

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because right now we have no events
been in this story other than just

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dreammatch on paper. You go back
to see it Rock, they've made it

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personal. They may they You go
back to some of those promos and see

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it was cut on the Rock and
you go back to one about I don't

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have to wear my promo on my
wrist, and you can see Rock getting

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pissed off in the ring, and
we were like, oh, that looks

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real right now. There's no intensity, there's nothing, there's no there's no

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personal animosity until your Rock and almost
for us the care. You have to

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make something personal for us, the
care. Otherwise the fans are gonna be

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they're gonna treat this like they did
that when they announced Batista to Orton for

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wrestled Bania after Rumble, and the
fans forced Daniel Bryant into that spot and

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he had the rustall twice to make
it to make it worthwhile for everybody,

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like it took a lot for the
fans to give they wanted right now,

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like you got to make people care
that the Rock is in dispatching right now,

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nobody gives a crack. Yeah,
and that's shocking because this is something

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I think, at least me as
a wrestling man, I could speak on

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my own behalf I've been wanting to
see for two three years now would be

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this match ever since Roman went heel
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I always felt like that this was
part of the endgame for the entire thing

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was this. You're not saying I'm
the head of the table. I put

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food on my family's table. I'm
the tribal chief of my family, knowing

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that the Rock is part of the
family. So we've been waiting for this

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basically ever since he turned heel nearly
four years ago now and in the very

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very very short term of where they
started to hit into fourth gear to make

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this a reality. It has been
executed very poorly. There's just like so

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many things. It's like, why
didn't you just have Rock performing the Rumble

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as a surprise entrant if you're going
to do that, And that was my

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thing the entire time, ever since
they teased it on that day. One

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edition is how do we get there? Because you have the Rumble coming up?

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How do we get there? And
how we're getting there right now is

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very discombobulated and confusing, and I
hope that the WWE Creative Team and the

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parts involved untwine this entire ball of
yarn so that it makes sense for wrestling

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fans a week from now, because
if it doesn't, this could be bad.

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I don't want to get to a
situation right now where it's Rock Roman

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in Philadelphia Wrestlemanting forty one of the
main events and it's just a boofest,

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because that is not fun as a
fan at home, that's not fun for

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people in the stadium, and it
makes for a memorable moment in WrestleMania for

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all the bad things. If it
wasn't for the seth ROMs cash in at

404
00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:44.400
Wrestlemanta thirty one, I think a
lot of people would look back at that

405
00:30:44.440 --> 00:30:48.519
Brock Lesnar Roman reigns match as something
they did not want to have happened,

406
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and happened. Doctor Trey brings up
Roman versus Brock at Wrestlemanta thirty four because

407
00:30:53.039 --> 00:30:57.880
he was there. That is a
main event that is quickly forgotten and forgettable,

408
00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:02.279
and for all the right reasons,
because it was something fans did not

409
00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:03.720
want to see at that time and
was being pushed down our throats by w

410
00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:10.759
Creative and that's what this feels like
again, and it's just sad because five

411
00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:15.240
weeks ago, I think you had
every nearly every other wrestling fan in on

412
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:19.400
this. It's I think the easiest
thing would have been that Rocks that have

413
00:31:19.400 --> 00:31:26.039
Shed should have said yes to Restumting
thirty nine and prevented this entire thing from

414
00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:27.960
the get go. You would have
never had this story of the follow up

415
00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:33.519
story of Cody versus Roman, or
if they knew that Roman was available to

416
00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:37.680
do this show, then you should
have ran with Cody and Roman rematch at

417
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:41.960
SummerSlam or something, because this is
just not not good, not a good

418
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:45.799
scenario. But again, I'm very
intrigued to see what happens at the media

419
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:48.799
event Thursday night. So we've spent
well over a half hour on this,

420
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:52.799
but it is, without a doubt
the biggest story in professional wrestling right now.

421
00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:57.039
The direction of this Rock Roman Reigns, Cody road Stuff for Restumting forty

422
00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:01.559
because a revolt has ensued and it's
a very few times Refreshion and wrestling that

423
00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:05.480
we see this happen. Everybody's pointing
to Daniel Bryan in the S movement.

424
00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:10.000
This is eerily reminiscent to it,
and We'll see. We'll see where this

425
00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:16.960
goes from here. Switching gears but
keeping withe. The latest in regards to

426
00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:22.000
the allegations against vincick Man and John
Lennoniitis, John Larniitis has come out and

427
00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:29.759
said that he is a victim in
its entire thing, basically confirming that the

428
00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:34.759
allegations against vincik Man is true,
turning on vincick Man in the process,

429
00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:39.799
and also came out earlier to On
Wednesday, there was a report out there

430
00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:49.200
from Vice News that confirmed so.
Back in twenty sixteen, former WE superstar

431
00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:55.279
and unfortunately no longer with US,
Ashley Masso, winner of the Devissearch contest.

432
00:32:55.519 --> 00:33:00.319
In twenty sixteen, she alleged that
she was drugged and assaulted by members

433
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:06.240
of the US Armed Forces Journey W
tour Kuwait, as well as abuse at

434
00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:09.119
the hands of former W chairman vincic
Man. WW denied any knowledge of her

435
00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:16.039
claims. Fallen Masorrow's suicide in twenty
nineteen, Vice reported that it was looked

436
00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:25.160
into by a naval internal investigations group. John Laronitis, attorney, commented on

437
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:30.000
the story and said that WW executives
in most upper level management knew about Ashley

438
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:37.240
Massero's claim despite company denials of said
knowledge. So this is starting to unravel.

439
00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:42.359
Either have been reports out there late
as we go into recording this week's

440
00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:45.599
edition in the show, saying that
the internal reaction to the publication of Vice

441
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:52.519
Ashley Massaro story is armageddon. So
you've got Larenidis turning on Vince saying he's

442
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:59.400
a victim. You've got Larenidis confirming
that W Upper management knew that one of

443
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:05.240
their employee is one of their superstars, was allegedly sexually assaulted by members of

444
00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:07.440
the US Armed Forces. I think
what it was said is that she was

445
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:14.480
being treated for dehydration and a doctor
came in, injected her with a paralyzing

446
00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:20.880
drug and sexually assaulted her while someone
was at the door guarding it. I

447
00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:25.519
mean, just reprehensible and disgusting stuff
that's being discussed here until I believe a

448
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:30.280
W employee like knocked on the door, came in and like carried Ashton Massaro

449
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:32.480
out of the room, is what
I had read. I mean, this

450
00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:39.360
entire story continues to be just really
really bad, and you hope it's not

451
00:34:39.519 --> 00:34:45.400
true, and if it is true, then everybody involved needs to pay for

452
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:49.199
this entire thing, Doctor Trey.
But the latest chapter in this all is

453
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:52.840
that Laroniitis is turning his back on
Vince or however you want to say this

454
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:57.159
turning the tables on Vince. I
guess I should say, because who cares

455
00:34:57.159 --> 00:35:00.559
if there's any type of loyalty really
when it comes to these types of alleytions,

456
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:04.039
and he is claiming a victim of
this entire thing and confirming the allegations

457
00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:07.400
to be true. This is going
to rock threat the WWE world, the

458
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:13.960
professional wrestling world in twenty twenty four, Doctor Trey. Yeah, it's I

459
00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:16.800
mean, it wasn't shortly thereafter that
they kind of stopped doing the in person

460
00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:22.400
visits for the troops also, they
started doing the taped shows as well,

461
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:24.119
So that was kind of when I
heard this story, I was like,

462
00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:29.440
oh, that kind of all makes
sense now, and it's heartbreaking. On

463
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:32.000
some of that was because Ashley Massara
was one of my favorite defense from that

464
00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:37.599
timeline, and you know, her
whole world just kind of fell apart after

465
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:40.440
that because it wasn't there much longer
after that before she was released, and

466
00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:45.280
then everything else piled up, and
it is it's utterly reprehensible, Like this

467
00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:47.480
is one of those things where like, you know, when you cover up

468
00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:54.559
stuff like this, that just shows
that money and greed is more important than

469
00:35:54.880 --> 00:36:00.760
somebody's well being, in somebody's mental
health, and that's not what anybody in

470
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:05.639
any kind of corporate setting wants out
there. This is what I didn't get

471
00:36:05.639 --> 00:36:07.840
a chance to bring this up last
week. But one of the side stories

472
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:09.880
of all this stuff with Vince is
that, you know, there's a lot

473
00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:14.320
of people in w W there hoping
that this allows Stephanie to come back,

474
00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:19.119
because she was really good for the
company when Vince you know, stepped away

475
00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:22.760
and retired. That she was you
know, her and Hunter are together brought

476
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:25.800
a lot of good to w W, and it was it was ironic that

477
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:31.159
right after Vince made his power play, Stephanie left again. So it's just,

478
00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:36.119
you know, and we've always heard
these other stories, like you know,

479
00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:39.039
the the Eve Torres rumors, things
like that that were all tied into

480
00:36:39.079 --> 00:36:44.559
all stuff. On one level,
I'm hoping the damn breaks and everything comes

481
00:36:44.559 --> 00:36:49.800
out. And you know, if
if even one of these stories about Vince

482
00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:53.480
is true and his legacy is ruined, God, I hope it's true.

483
00:36:53.559 --> 00:36:58.079
I mean, for if any of
these things are true, that the man

484
00:36:58.159 --> 00:37:02.239
needs to be just completely just you
know, erased from history books, so

485
00:37:02.280 --> 00:37:07.880
to speak, because they're just just
evil, evil things. And for a

486
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:12.239
lot of wrestling fans, and it's
also true in like anything, like if

487
00:37:12.239 --> 00:37:15.000
you're a fan of the company or
you're a fan of somebody, you kind

488
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:19.800
of you almost don't want to know. But at this point, especially with

489
00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:23.400
ashabsorrow and knowing that this kind of
what led to her, you know her

490
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:29.679
her suicide is just something that you
can't come back from and nor should you

491
00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:32.559
ever come back from it. So
at this point, I just want like

492
00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:36.880
let all the dirty laundry out,
just let it all out and then you

493
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:39.360
know, try to rebuild from that. Yeah, the entire thing is just

494
00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:45.559
disgusting. And yeah, that's the
latest update on the allegations. I mean,

495
00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:50.519
it is what it is at this
point. And if they're all deemed

496
00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:54.000
to be true, hopefully every pays
for all of their sins in this entire

497
00:37:54.079 --> 00:37:57.119
thing. Yes, I have to
try. I don't know if you heard,

498
00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:01.039
did is John lordize a hymn and
nick and bring his mom still together?

499
00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:07.039
I believe so? Yes, So
they're they're working through all this stuff.

500
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:10.559
So, like the I guess the
quote unquote playing the victim card is

501
00:38:10.599 --> 00:38:15.840
working for John Laura and I,
which I just I don't get all that

502
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:20.400
stuff. Like it to me is
like, I know, we don't know

503
00:38:20.440 --> 00:38:22.960
what's going on behind the scenes with
his marriage honestly, right, yes,

504
00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:30.599
I know they released a statement the
Belotwins, you know, not condoning its

505
00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:36.559
entire situation, So I can only
imagine that behind the scenes, their personalizes

506
00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:39.920
is not in a good spot right
now. Yeah, okay, I just

507
00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:44.519
I thought of that there day when
I saw they put out a comment,

508
00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:51.360
but it was neither positive or negative
towards their stepfather. So I was kind

509
00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:53.320
of curious as to if there had
been a report coming out about that,

510
00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:57.840
because it's one of those weird situations
where like, if your mom's staying with

511
00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:00.719
him, you have to love your
mom and support him, but you also

512
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:05.039
want to distance yourself from the company
and also him. So it's it's a

513
00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:07.719
tight rope for them to walk as
well, because right now they don't really

514
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:12.320
have you know, they're they're back
to using their real names. They're no

515
00:39:12.360 --> 00:39:15.000
longer the Bellotwins. They're not they're
not able to use that branding. So

516
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:19.039
for people like that for them,
they have to kind of walk that weird

517
00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:22.000
line where they can support their mom
but then distance themselves from their step on

518
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:25.360
the Yeah. I mean, I
think it's one of those situations where you

519
00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:31.559
know, when people that you love
do discussing things, it's a very hard

520
00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:36.760
thing to wrap your head around.
So I can only imagine what they're dealing

521
00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:40.000
with in their personal lives handling this. And we don't know what's going on

522
00:39:40.039 --> 00:39:45.360
with John Larniis and his wife who
is the mother of Nicky and Bribella,

523
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:52.760
and how they're all handling that.
I can't imagine it's very happy times depending

524
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:58.119
on how it's being discussed or what
they what they say is the truth or

525
00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:01.400
what have you. So I I
don't really want to like dig into what

526
00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:07.039
may be going on behind the scenes
on stuff like that. Keeping with the

527
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:09.880
same story here, Doctor Trey,
it would appear that as of now,

528
00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:15.079
brock Lester's w W career may be
over. And I think it's safe to

529
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:19.760
say if all these allegations are true, it should be. But as it

530
00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:22.960
stands right now, do you think
we have seen brock Lessner wrestle his last

531
00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:30.599
professional wrestling match period now? I
still think this is one of these where

532
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:32.480
they're hoping. I still think with
the brock leasers, I mean, because

533
00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:37.039
the allegation is basically that you know, he had sex with somebody. Well,

534
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:43.760
they're not saying that, they're saying
that Vince had tried to Yes,

535
00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:47.119
it would be the way that it
would be presented, would be trafficked to

536
00:40:47.599 --> 00:40:52.679
Brock lessener. But for me is
that this is one of the things with

537
00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:57.519
with Brock's allegation is not as bad
as the Vince stuff or even the Lord

538
00:40:57.599 --> 00:41:00.800
Knight of stuff two degrees. So
it's like, all right, let's see

539
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:04.400
how long this can before it blows
over. Because I don't think there I

540
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:07.039
don't I don't think the backlash against
Brock is as severe as against the other

541
00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:10.480
one. So I would say,
you know, especially with with I mean,

542
00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:13.880
I don't I've seen I'm sure you've
seen the pictures of Brock's daughter,

543
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:17.800
the high school wrestler and powerlifter or
whatever like. I could see a scenario

544
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:21.960
where Brock gets back in the ring
to kind of set the stage if she

545
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:27.760
goes down the wrestling path as well. I would say by next year's wrestle

546
00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:30.039
media will start hair rumors that Brock
might be coming in for WrestleMania forty one.

547
00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:34.719
Interesting times when it comes to his
career. I guess it's all kind

548
00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:39.320
of a backseat driver when it comes
to all the allegations. But it would

549
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:43.800
appear him wrestling at Wrestling If forty
at least in the short term is not

550
00:41:43.960 --> 00:41:47.960
happening, which was supposed to be
according to reports he and Gunther, which

551
00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:52.360
is something that both Doctor tran I
predicted and definitely wanted to see in the

552
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:58.440
wy ring. But if his involvement
is is deemed true in this these allegations,

553
00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:01.960
and of course he should not return
to the World entertainment. Shocking news

554
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:06.400
on Wednesday, doctor Trey Scott de
Moore is out of TNA Wrestling. He

555
00:42:06.440 --> 00:42:09.199
has been fired as the president of
TNA Wrestling. They're gonna go with Anthony

556
00:42:09.239 --> 00:42:15.239
Sacone, who has no previous wrestling
experience. This is such a and I

557
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:19.599
guess this call was made by whoever
runs Anthem Sports Entertainment. I mean,

558
00:42:19.679 --> 00:42:22.920
TNA has had so much good fortune
in the last couple of years, and

559
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:25.519
especially in the last month, people
have been very high on TNA for the

560
00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:29.320
first time in a very long time, and that is due to the passion

561
00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:35.760
and drive and direction by Scott Demore. What an awful decision this is,

562
00:42:35.920 --> 00:42:39.480
I mean, like, what a
morale killer, terrible decision by Anthem to

563
00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:45.480
fire Scott dea Moore as the president
of TNA, guy who clearly loved those

564
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:52.280
three letters and now an aw orwe
should hopefully sign him right up, because

565
00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:55.719
Scott de Moore, from what I've
seen everything that you read, is a

566
00:42:55.760 --> 00:43:01.599
fantastic wrestling executive in this lane escape
that we cover. But what a shocking

567
00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:06.320
and dumb move today. Doctor Trey, Yeah, I saw that report and

568
00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:09.599
like literally I was like, this
is the most puzzling thing I've seen happen.

569
00:43:10.920 --> 00:43:15.000
But I guess quote unquote behind the
scenes in wrestling in quite a while,

570
00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:19.400
because I actually met Scott Tomore a
couple of years ago at a show

571
00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:22.199
that I worked, and just a
super nice guy, down to earth,

572
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:25.360
like didn't matter if you were top
of the car or on the car,

573
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:30.400
just talk to everybody. But I
mean he has reinvigorated TNA. I mean

574
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:34.519
like for most folks, I don't
think people new TENA Impact have even still

575
00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:38.239
been around a couple of years ago. It was just so I mean fourth

576
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:44.960
tier like wrestling like glorified independent type
stuff in a way, and you know,

577
00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:47.519
just you know, the word of
mouth and people get over there talking

578
00:43:47.519 --> 00:43:52.679
about it, and the signings of
Nick Nemo and you know those guys in

579
00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:57.480
Dana Brook and the Mustaphologies of the
world like those were those are not easy

580
00:43:57.480 --> 00:44:00.599
signings to pull off. And you
know it was a good you know,

581
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:05.400
he was just had kind of things
rolling a little bit so and to take

582
00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:08.039
out a guy who's reindiggering your product
and who has not just a love for

583
00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:10.920
your company, but a love for
professional wrestling and replacing it with a guy

584
00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:15.920
who was the head of some media
stuff to run a wrestling company is just

585
00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:20.800
kind of mind boggling. And you
know there are rumors like the stuff with

586
00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:23.280
Jordan Grace at the Rumble that was
a triple Ah just gott the more deal

587
00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:28.559
and TNA had to deal with Peacock
to started putting some T and A plus

588
00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:31.840
stuff on Peacock as well. So
it is kind of puzzling. Maybe this

589
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:36.920
Anthony Sacone is the one who maybe
negotiated the Peacock thing, and that's where

590
00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:39.239
Anton wants to go and get more
eyes on their product. They think he

591
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:45.360
might be a better fit for meteor
ites, But it's just always mind puzzling

592
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:49.599
or mind boggling when you take a
guy who's running your company that's a wrestling

593
00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:52.719
guy and you put somebody in charge
who's not a wrestling guy. We go

594
00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:55.880
back and listening Eric Bishaw talking about
the times that they put non wrestling guys

595
00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:59.360
in terms of w CW and see
how well that worked out for them.

596
00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:04.800
Oh yeah, it basically killed the
company. Every single time we have our

597
00:45:04.840 --> 00:45:08.880
first WRESTLEMANI forty card update. These
are weekly things that we do heading into

598
00:45:08.920 --> 00:45:12.440
Wrestleman forty. So here's the first
edition of it, Doctor Trey. We

599
00:45:12.440 --> 00:45:16.159
have one confirmed match which took place
on Friday SmackDown. Eo Sky will defend

600
00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:22.800
the WE Women's Championship against Bailey who
It nearly went the way I predicted Doctor

601
00:45:22.840 --> 00:45:28.880
Trey, that Bailey would overhear them
in the locker room saying something and then

602
00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:31.960
would call them out on it.
It nearly played the same way the Wrestlemanta

603
00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:37.679
twenty one angle happened with Batista turning
on Triple H. Yeah, and you

604
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:39.360
know you and I joked about on
air and I was like, well,

605
00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:42.639
you're gonna go to the Triple eight. You're going to Batista raute, Okay,

606
00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:45.440
gotcha. But I did love the
fact that she I was waiting for

607
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:47.800
her to say. A friend of
mine taught me Japanese and we called be

608
00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:51.559
like, oh, Sashia Banks every
time in New Japan. Taught Bailey Japanese

609
00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:53.159
so she could hear there saying but
she didn't throw that one in there.

610
00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:58.880
But yeah, the fact that Bailey
learned Japanese to find out what everybody's saying

611
00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:04.280
was great. So uh and and
I thought the spot was really well done,

612
00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:06.400
you know. And by the end
of it, you're like, oh,

613
00:46:06.440 --> 00:46:09.760
no, I'm on board with Bailey
and EO at WrestleMania, and I'm

614
00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:13.119
excited to see these goings. And
then you still have the Dakota Kai Tai

615
00:46:13.239 --> 00:46:16.360
and does she stay does she stay
with you know, damage Control or whatever

616
00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:20.599
they're going to call themselves now,
or does she side with Bailey and all

617
00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:23.039
this? So it'll be interesting see
how it plays out, because you always

618
00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:30.760
don't walk it the sides, even
out between now and WrestleMania. So uh,

619
00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:32.440
you know, Kuo said they pulled
it off. Bailey's a baby face,

620
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:36.840
which I think She's like she was
a fantastic heel, but uh,

621
00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:40.039
happy baby, you know, happy
baby, non none hugger Bailey, but

622
00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:45.599
you know, an edgier Bailey is
always good for wrestling as well. I

623
00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:50.079
will say that I think they did
a good job of making her sympathetic the

624
00:46:50.119 --> 00:46:52.079
last couple of months, dating back
to SERBS series Wargame, when they started

625
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:55.719
really planning the seeds heading into that
show and then really kind of upped it

626
00:46:55.800 --> 00:47:00.400
a little bit during that specific war
Games match. I would have to see

627
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:02.559
a little bit more growing sympathy for
Bailey because she has been such a good

628
00:47:02.599 --> 00:47:07.280
heel over the last couple of years
that I think it was a bit difficult

629
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:09.760
for fans to get behind her.
They quickly did so with the Rumble Win

630
00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:15.400
and felt that this wave was coming. And then I guess my question for

631
00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:17.880
you, doctor Trey is, which
you know you briefly mentioned there, Do

632
00:47:17.960 --> 00:47:22.079
you go the hugger route with Bailey
now as a babyface? No, I

633
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:27.400
think you homage it. I think
it restlmated the wacky waving flayble two bar

634
00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:30.119
bend come out. You know,
because when she turned heel then where she

635
00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:36.079
slashed them all the pieces so she
tapes them back up. Yeah, they

636
00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:38.639
have to say these ain duct tape
on them, you know, covering it

637
00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:43.239
up to make it look like they
got patched up and everything. So I

638
00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:45.880
think that'd be good. But you
know, I don't think you have to

639
00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:52.480
go full Hugger Bailey, but somewhere
in that ballpark, all right. And

640
00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:55.400
then some of the expected matches.
Here, we've got two B determined world

641
00:47:55.519 --> 00:48:00.480
champion versus crote Roads for a world
title, and then Ria Ripley will defend

642
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:06.599
the WA Women's World Championship against the
winner of the elimination chamer match in a

643
00:48:06.599 --> 00:48:08.920
couple of weeks in Perth, Australia. She'll also be taken on Naya Jacks

644
00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:14.679
and elimination chambers. So those are
some of the expected semi confirmed matches,

645
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:19.440
and I think that's basically how the
card looks. I guess we could add

646
00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:25.360
Roman Reigns versus rock On here.
I guess maybe we could be leaning into

647
00:48:25.719 --> 00:48:30.719
Gunther. I mean maybe like bron
Breaker, Doctor Trey. I don't I

648
00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:35.519
don't know what other expected WRESTLEMANI forty
matches we may see right now. Well,

649
00:48:35.559 --> 00:48:40.559
I mean, if you go off
the reports that Braun took Brock's spot

650
00:48:40.599 --> 00:48:46.199
in the Rumble that you know could
lean into maybe Braun taking Gunther spot at

651
00:48:46.199 --> 00:48:50.880
wrestle Mania. And if you want
to establish, you know, an up

652
00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:53.519
and coming star and kind of put
the rocket Ship on somebody, you know,

653
00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:58.519
it could be reminiscent of when the
Warrior beat Honckey tonk Man for the

654
00:48:58.519 --> 00:49:01.400
inn Island the rocket Ship Warrior went
on. You can kind of pull the

655
00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:06.880
same thing here if you put Broun
Breaker in Gunther in a match and Braun

656
00:49:06.920 --> 00:49:09.119
gets the win, and then you
get the rocket Ship strapped to him,

657
00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:13.559
much like the Warrior get back in
you know, early nineties, ear late

658
00:49:13.639 --> 00:49:16.159
eighties, earlyies. And I could
see a scenario there where actually bron Breaker

659
00:49:16.239 --> 00:49:21.000
dethrones gun Through actually to ride that
wave. You know what, I'll throw

660
00:49:21.039 --> 00:49:24.239
out one more maybe expected match right
now. I could really see Damian Priests

661
00:49:24.239 --> 00:49:28.960
and friend Valor defending the tag team
titles against the mizz and Our Truth.

662
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:34.360
Yeah, I can see that as
well. You want to see both those

663
00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:37.360
guys get a win like a big
stage way. I mean, MS has

664
00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:39.360
had his moments to wrestle me.
It got He's been great at telling us

665
00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:43.800
about it. But do you want
to get some kind of payoff to this

666
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:47.639
because it's been kind of like this
weird. I don't want to say it's

667
00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:51.480
under the radar because it's scorn the
under but it's not a main event level.

668
00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:54.480
But it's been a very very fun
mid card thing with the Truth,

669
00:49:54.639 --> 00:50:00.199
with Madonna, with Dom and Nick
Mysterio, you know, the whole it's

670
00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:04.440
high in there, like if it's
been fun, So you gotta get some

671
00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:07.920
kind of payoff. And if you
happen to go and I kind of mentioned

672
00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:12.840
this earlier, maybe you don't do
Cody and Seth. Maybe do Cody Seth,

673
00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:16.119
Drew and Sammy and then one of
the people that's not Seth gets the

674
00:50:16.119 --> 00:50:20.960
wain and Damien pashes in on that
person. So maybe that's a route you

675
00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:23.320
go as well to get the money
the bank off, because he's only got

676
00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:28.039
two bucks window between now and the
next money in the bank. Tis the

677
00:50:28.079 --> 00:50:30.840
season looking towards the rest of Maing
forty, I mean it's less than what

678
00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:35.000
I see the other day, like
sixty two days away, so like less

679
00:50:35.039 --> 00:50:37.880
than what eight eight weeks away,
seven weeks away at this point, so

680
00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:42.239
it'll be here before you know it. So it is the very first resuming

681
00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:45.800
forty card update here on SRTU,
and that's tends to be a weekly thing

682
00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:51.920
as we head into Wrestlem. A
forty last thing here. Doctor Trey NXT

683
00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:54.840
Vengeance Day Recap interviewed this past Sunday
from the F and M Bank Arena in

684
00:50:54.880 --> 00:50:59.480
Clarksville, Tennessee. Uh, kind
of change it up here a little bit.

685
00:50:59.519 --> 00:51:04.000
I'm gonna go quickly through the results
and get your thoughts on some of

686
00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:08.400
these matches rather than go match by
match just on time. Say here for

687
00:51:08.440 --> 00:51:12.719
this week's dish of the podcast.
So we had Baron Corbyn Brown Breaker defeating

688
00:51:12.760 --> 00:51:15.639
Carmela Hayes and Trick Williams in the
men's Dusty Roads Tag Team Classic finals.

689
00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:22.239
Dijeck defeats Joey Joe Gacy in a
notice qualification match. The Family defeats OTM

690
00:51:22.280 --> 00:51:27.000
and a six person mixed tag team
match. Lyra Valcarie defeats Roxanne Perez and

691
00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:31.880
Lolavice, who cashed in her Women's
Breakout Tournament contract to retain the NXC Women's

692
00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:37.760
Championship. Oprah Femi defeats Dragon Lead
to retain the NXC North American Championship.

693
00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:40.760
Eliot Dragonoff defeats Trick Williams to retain
the NXC Championship. Then, obviously,

694
00:51:40.760 --> 00:51:45.400
the big thing at the end of
that match was Carmelo Hayes turning on Trick

695
00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:49.199
Williams to close the show. Both
Doctor Trey and I went four and two

696
00:51:49.519 --> 00:51:52.519
on the night, Doctor Trey,
what'd you think of NXC Vengeance Day?

697
00:51:53.559 --> 00:51:57.760
I thought it was a really really
solid x T show. I actually had

698
00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:00.639
a higher ranked rating wise that I
did Royal Rumble. I thought it was

699
00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:06.320
a really fun show, got some
good storylines out of it. I didn't

700
00:52:06.360 --> 00:52:08.480
realize how much how much fun I
have watching bron Break and Baron Corman work

701
00:52:08.519 --> 00:52:12.599
together. By the way, if
Joe Gasey does not come back as Joey

702
00:52:12.599 --> 00:52:15.519
Gacy, like you just kind of, you know, accidentally mentioned that's a

703
00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:20.360
great name for a guy too,
Like, uh see, Joey Gacy joined

704
00:52:20.440 --> 00:52:23.960
the family, you know, Joey
g Yeah, Joey g how you doing.

705
00:52:24.880 --> 00:52:28.480
There's there's some legs with that character, by the way, Joe Gacy,

706
00:52:29.119 --> 00:52:32.119
Yeah, it's it's it's odd now
that you know, I loved the

707
00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:37.280
the diad or how with the whole
thing there with those guys and now you

708
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:40.719
have a but the GM Gaysey's on
his own, like he does feel like

709
00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:44.840
this like lost character is trying to
find his way. But it's a really

710
00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:47.440
good character to kind of play with, so it's got some legs to do

711
00:52:47.480 --> 00:52:51.639
it. Larry Valkyrie the Rock Samperez
match, I still don't want. This

712
00:52:51.679 --> 00:52:54.280
is The other weird booking thing of
the weekend was if you're gonna do a

713
00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:57.719
cash in, why do it in
the middle of the match unless you're seth

714
00:52:57.800 --> 00:53:02.559
rollins. Yeah, that was kind
of especially there. Would you make it

715
00:53:02.599 --> 00:53:07.880
to the end of the match,
you know? And but whatever? And

716
00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:10.960
Trick and Dragon Off was a fun, fun match. I did not like

717
00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:16.679
the finish with you know, Carmelo
getting accidentally involved a couple of times but

718
00:53:16.840 --> 00:53:21.480
not squarely leading to the finish.
But then I am happy to see Mellow

719
00:53:21.639 --> 00:53:23.559
turn on Trick Is. I think
Mellow as a heel is better than Mellow

720
00:53:23.599 --> 00:53:27.000
as a face. Yeah, so
it was. It was a It was

721
00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:31.880
a pretty decent show for Sunday and
Night. I did enjoy it and I

722
00:53:31.880 --> 00:53:37.119
thought they did a good job.
The NXT brand is is is solid.

723
00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:40.880
I think pay review prediction records coming
out of the first two pay reviews of

724
00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:45.480
the year. I'm seven and three
dotch Tray six and four U pay per

725
00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:49.840
view event rating and Match of the
Night. I gave it a three point

726
00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:52.960
six out of five, and I
gave Eli Dragonoff and Trick Williams my match

727
00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:55.320
of the night. I gave it
a three point nine. I enjoy it

728
00:53:55.480 --> 00:53:59.440
slightly more than the Rumble, uh, and then I gave it the Trick

729
00:53:59.440 --> 00:54:01.159
and ill up, I saw something
puzzle Twitter and I think I've been saying

730
00:54:01.159 --> 00:54:06.960
this Trick is the next Booker T. Like there's so many similarities to their

731
00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:08.960
styles and their builds and everything else
like that. I just think I think

732
00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:12.519
Trick's more athletic than Booker was at
this point, but book right a little

733
00:54:12.519 --> 00:54:16.159
more charisma. But that's not a
knock on Trick because he's obviously I mean

734
00:54:16.159 --> 00:54:21.119
WI that Trick is one of the
best chance across wrestling right now. So

735
00:54:21.920 --> 00:54:23.679
he just reminds me so much of
a really, really young Booker T right

736
00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:28.119
now. Yeah, it was a
very fun time for NXT. It was.

737
00:54:28.480 --> 00:54:30.599
I felt at points the show dragged
a little bit, but the matches

738
00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:37.760
were very solid. I NXT is
a very solid show, and I'm happy

739
00:54:37.800 --> 00:54:39.760
with the growth that they've done as
a brand over the last couple of years,

740
00:54:40.199 --> 00:54:44.199
because you do get to see some
stars really start to break out,

741
00:54:44.239 --> 00:54:47.960
like Joe Gacy, like Oba Feme, like Braun and Baron Corbin naturally getting

742
00:54:47.960 --> 00:54:52.679
together in Carmelo, and Trick being
one of the hottest feuds in all of

743
00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:54.639
w right now, Trick being one
of the most breakout stars in all of

744
00:54:54.639 --> 00:54:59.599
the right now. So there you
go. That is our NXT evenge just

745
00:54:59.599 --> 00:55:02.119
a very quick recap interview. Would
that say, let's get a couple of

746
00:55:02.119 --> 00:55:05.400
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There you go support all the great
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763
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year. I mean, we spent a

764
00:56:01.320 --> 00:56:05.639
good half hour trying to figure out
what the hell we is doing right now

765
00:56:05.679 --> 00:56:09.440
with the rock and Coded Roads.
It has people's eyeballs on the product and

766
00:56:09.480 --> 00:56:14.320
that is a good thing. Ultimately, I think Raw was one of the

767
00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:17.679
highest rated shows. I think it
tied a very popular show in the Bachelor.

768
00:56:17.719 --> 00:56:22.480
I know my wife loves The Bachelor
on Monday night, so it's kind

769
00:56:22.519 --> 00:56:25.039
of doing its thing. Now.
We'll see with the execution. So it's

770
00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:30.320
gonna be very interesting week and I'm
very excited to intrigue to see where things

771
00:56:30.400 --> 00:56:35.239
go from here this upcoming week and
what we talk about on next week's podcast

772
00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:39.199
in regard to everything that is WrestleMania
forty. So with that said, for

773
00:56:39.400 --> 00:56:44.280
doctor Trey Franklin, I'm Jeff pank
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774
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775
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