The Ultimate WrestleMania Card Challenge! | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #794 – 05/01/25

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It's still real to me, damn it!

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What up, you!

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Welcome, everybody!

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Welcome to this week's "It's a Nostal Realtime Show"

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Episode number 794 for May 1st, 2025.

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Welcome to this week's edition of "SRTU."

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I am on "F" the show.

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I am Jeff Peck.

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Join every single week on my course,

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lower Dr. Trent Franklin.

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Dr. Trey, are you ready to fill our ultimate rest

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of any cards, my friend?

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So you hear me chuckling,

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and it's literally because as we were coming on air,

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you know this, like I was literally adjusting my card

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to come on there, because I realized,

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I, Jeff, and this is no joking,

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I left off two of the biggest stars

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in the history of professional wrestling,

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because I was so focused on remembering my childhood,

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I forgot my adulthood.

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So I've been tweaking this card

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as we were coming on air,

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just to make sure somebody didn't like point out

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that I left so and so and so off the card.

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It's tough.

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So we are in vacation mode,

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as we discussed the last week's show,

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as we recap or viewed,

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the rest of any 41 weekend with you all,

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we decided to take a little break this week

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from the rest of any grind that we've been doing.

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So we're gonna be doing something fun here,

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as we kind of just take a little break

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from everything going on the world of professional wrestling,

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and just enjoy having like one of our favorite things

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that we do here for time and time,

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which is these, these specials so.

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So we're gonna build our ultimate rest of any card,

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and the rules about this Dr. Trey is that it's

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any wrestler that performed in WWE, right?

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Is that the rules here?

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- And that we actually saw, yes.

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- Okay, so you can't be like Bruno San Martino.

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- Yeah, I never saw Bruno Russell as an adult.

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I've never saw Bruno Russell, I never saw Pat Pat,

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well technically I did see Pat Pat as a derestal,

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just not in his prime.

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But yeah, like it's anybody who has been in WWE

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at any point in their career.

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So like I have a tag team that they were not a tag team

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in WWE, but they both wrestled in WWE and tagged

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in other places, but because of how much love

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I have for these two guys, I put them together

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on this show.

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- Okay, so those are the rules, and I feel like at some point

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I gotta ask like Chat GppT, what they would do, right?

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So I'm gonna actually do that as we speak.

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We're gonna do this on the air as we speak.

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So build a ultimate WrestleMania card

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with, and by the way, we're doing 10 matches.

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I don't know if we explain that yet, right?

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So we're doing with 10 matches that includes wrestlers

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who only preformed in the WWE.

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- And then I think.

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- Or maybe take out the word only, just who performed

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in WWE because otherwise you might technically speak

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and then you would exclude like Rick Flair's,

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who performed in WWE.

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All right, so let's see what Chat GppT says.

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All right.

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You and I talked about this, I love some Chat GppT,

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they made a hilarious action figure of me.

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So I love some Chat GppT.

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- All right, so some of these are actually matches

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that I've selected.

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- Here's what we'll do.

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We will save this towards the end of the show.

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- Okay.

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- All right, so we'll get through our cards

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and then we'll reveal what Chat GppT put together here

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because it's pretty funny.

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So I guess Dr. Shrey, how do you wanna do this?

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You want me to start first with my WrestleMania card,

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like my first match, we'll just gotta go back and forth?

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- Yeah, I don't know about you, but I feel like my tag team matches

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and my women's match is kind of lower

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on my ranking of priority, I guess, in a sense.

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So I'm, whatever match you want throughout first,

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I'll counter it out.

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And I'm just gonna go through my tag team,

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women's and up to the men's division.

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- Okay, okay.

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So I actually, did you do a host for your WrestleMania?

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Because I did a host.

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- I did not do a host, but I can, let me think,

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give me just, give me three seconds to see if we're

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a new ultimate host of WrestleMania.

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Okay, I got, I know who I want.

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Okay.

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Okay, so I will reveal my WrestleMania host,

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Roughty, Roughty, Piper.

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- Oh, that's really, really good.

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I went with somebody who's near and dear to my heart

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who just passed away recently, so my host of WrestleMania

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is Bob Eukert.

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Ooh, I like that one.

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That's good. - Yeah.

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- I love me some Bob Eukert.

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I mean, anybody who watched Major League,

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you gotta be a fan of Bob Eukert and just--

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- Yeah, that's the better.

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- Outside. - Yep.

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And I use that all the, like you and I were joking,

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are talking earlier about WGN and Bose of the clown

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and the grand prize game and throwing pink bonkballs

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and buckets, like that was always my go too.

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As he even as a kid, like when somebody would miss the bucket,

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I would just go, "Oh, just a bit outside."

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- So, Roughty, Roughty, Piper's my host,

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Bob Eukert's Dr. Trays, and then we'll get

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to our openers now.

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So I'm gonna do my opening match.

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So my opening match is a money in the bank ladder match

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that has Eddie Guerrero, Kurt Angle, Mr. Perfect,

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Owen Hart, AJ Styles, Randy Orin, Rick Flair,

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and Ricky Steamboat in it.

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- Wow, that's a, how many guys in that match?

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- Eight, so I got Eddie Guerrero, Kurt Angle,

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Mr. Perfect, Owen Hart, AJ Styles, Randy Orin,

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and Rick Flair, Ricky Steamboat.

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Is that eight, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight?

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- Yep, eight, so I'm going like old school

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money in the bank ladder match here.

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So that is my opener.

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- All right, I have to ask you a legitimate question.

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Did you get through the card and realize,

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oh crap, I don't have these guys on the show anywhere.

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Let me put them together in a ladder match.

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- Yes and no, so I wanted to get,

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I wanted, so I had a money in the bank ladder match in there

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and I had Eddie Guerrero, Kurt Angle, Mr. Perfect,

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Owen Hart, and AJ Styles and Randy Orin in there.

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I felt obligated to put Orin in there

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and then I realized Rick Flair wasn't in there

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and I wanted to get an even number for money in the bank.

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So I went eight and I was like, Ricky Steamboat,

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WrestleMania three.

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So I felt like, to me,

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these are some of the best pure wrestlers that I've ever seen

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and I think that this would be a banger

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of a money in the bank ladder match opener.

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So there was a little bit of that

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and then there was, I had a tough time,

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10 matches with anybody at our fingertips.

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So I had a tough time in this one.

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So that's why there were some people that I wanted this match

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as an opener like Eddie Guerrero, Kurt Angle,

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I wanted in the opener,

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but then there are some in there that was,

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I didn't wanna forget and deserve to be in the card.

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So that's how I got there.

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- No, I love that pick.

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The other thing I thought was like,

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I don't know if I've ever seen Rick Flair in a ladder match.

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- Didn't he perform in the money in the bank ladder match

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at WrestleMania?

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- I honestly can't remember.

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- I wanna say he did.

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It was like, WrestleMania 23 or something, hold on.

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I will look down on it.

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- I'm just, I'm just be sure I'm trying to climb the ladder

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and then Arn runs in to give him the boost up the ladder.

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Like that's how I'm picturing that old thing.

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But no, I love everyone those guys

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and I literally went in.

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- WrestleMania 22.

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- Oh, it was 22.

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Okay, because I'm literally saying you're going,

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crap, I don't have Kurt Angle on my card.

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I was like, oh, damn, I don't have this guy in them.

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So I'm like looking at my card going, okay,

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maybe I need to adjust this a little bit,

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but yeah, no, that would be a fantastic fun.

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The personalities in that match also would line up really well.

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Plus you got the rivalry of perfect and Flair in there.

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Eddie and Orden, Eddie and Angle,

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that's a lot of talent in the ring fighting

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for a money-the-bank briefcase ladder.

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So I do love that as your kickoff match

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for your WrestleMania card.

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- All right, so what is your open-air kickoff match

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for WrestleMania?

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- So mine is basically the toughest tag team match

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I could think of.

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I wanted to pick for the toughest, most dangerous tag teams

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I'd ever seen whether it was just 'cause they're legit bad asses

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or because they're just fantastic in the ring.

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So my opening match is a fatal four-way tag team match

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with the Legion of Doom, AKA the road warriors,

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the Miracle Violence Connection,

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which is my favorite tag team ball of all time,

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Ducodestine Williams and Terry BamBam Gordy,

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versus FTR versus the war raiders.

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I just wanna see these eight men get in the ring

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and literally just beat the hell of each other

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until there's one tag team standing.

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So those are for my favorite tag teams.

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I just wanna see them go at it

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and just see who the toughest tag team in the world is

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when all is said and done.

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- They would be chanting like meat during this match, won't they?

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- Basically, just a lot.

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Like FTR is funny, FTR by wrestling standards

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today are basically heavyweights

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'cause they're all about 252.60.

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They are completely undersized

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compared to the other three tag teams in this match,

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but their teamwork is probably better

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than the other three tag teams.

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And they're legit tough guys.

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So that's why I put them in this match,

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but like I just, dock and Gordy,

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I remember their match with the Steiner Brothers.

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I saw them wrestle staying hands in and BamBam big alone

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in Japan and then they've had matches with the roadwaters,

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but throwing the war raiders,

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which are the modern day version of those guys.

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Like that just seems to me like just a fun,

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physical hard hitting fight to kick off my WrestleMania show.

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- Now we would have to like take a look at this

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and actually see if this is true,

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but I think at one time Dr. Death

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and Terry BamBam Gordy were on the WWE roster

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at the same time.

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That would have been the May to late 90s, right?

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- So, I don't know if they were actually the same time

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or they just, they missed their back a couple months,

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but they brought BamBam in as the executioner,

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basically as a favor to his family

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'cause he had fallen on some hard times health wise

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and is waiting in my paycheck.

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And then they brought Doc in around the same time

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with Jim Ross as his heel manager

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and then the brawl for all happened

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and Doc's push got completely vanquished.

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- Yeah, the rumor's always been that

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he's gonna be feuding with Stonkle T. Boston, right?

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- Yep, yep, that was always the rumor.

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but he tore his quad, I think in his fight with Bart Gunn

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and Bart Gunn, come with a punch and knocked him out.

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- Yeah, that was a dark side of the ring episode,

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the brawl for all where it was like nobody thought

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this was a good idea.

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So, Dr. Trey went with a tag team match for his opener.

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My next match is a tag team match, Dr. Trey.

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It is a six way tables, ladders and chairs match

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for the WWE World Tag Team Championship.

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As Edge and Christian defend against the Hardy boys,

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the Dudley boys, the Usos, the new day,

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and Kevin Owens and Sammy Zane,

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I wanted to capture every great tag team

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that is performed at WrestleMania

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like the best tag team performances in the history

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of WrestleMania, and I think these six tag teams have done that.

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So I'm gonna do a six way TLC match, E&C,

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the Hardee, the Dudley,

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it's the Usos, the new day,

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and Kevin Owens and Sammy Zane

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for the WWE World Tag Team Championship.

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So I have a very similar match up.

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for the World Tag Team Championships.

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and versus the Usos, versus the new day,

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versus the Midnight Express who made a short appearance in WWE

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when they did the NWA Smokey Mountain Crossover stuff.

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And Tully Blanchard and Arnandison is the brain buster.

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So those are my six favorite tag teams.

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I was like, and maybe the six best pure tag teams

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I've ever seen in my life.

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I want to see them go at it and see who comes out on top

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for the WWE Tag Team Championships.

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>> My next match is my only women's match on here,

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which I'm disappointed in myself, but here we are.

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I did an Ares tag team match,

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which we'll see Tristratus and Lita

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taking on the tag team of Charlotte Flair and Becky Lynch,

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taking on the tag team of Rhea Ripley and Bianca Belair.

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Past, present, future Ares tag team match for all you swiftees out there.

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>> So here's the funny thing, once again,

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so my third match women's tag team match as well,

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slightly variance, I went with the tag team of Rhea Ripley and China,

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versus the tag team of Lita and Becky Lynch.

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I was like the two biggest badasses,

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versus the two women that maybe have the most hard and sole

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of anybody we've seen in the women's division and let them go at it.

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But yeah, it's literally like the Afe and Nife,

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it was a Nife wonder and Temp wonder of the world,

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versus like the fiery red heads that just don't quit.

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So I like yours, though, it's like I love the past,

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present and future.

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You're younger than me, so that makes sense as to why you didn't put

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Wendy Richter in fact, a spool in this match.

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>> So I thought about putting a Lunge ablaze

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and Wendy Richter in this match.

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>> I almost win. >> That would win.

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>> Fatal four way.

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>> Or bone lecano in a Lunderblaze.

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>> I thought about that tag team as well.

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>> There you go.

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>> Yeah, I was literally like, I'm like, I can't have,

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I mean, I didn't want to cheat and put too many like gigantic match,

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I mean, I could have, we could have done an Andre battle royal and put

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Andre in the battle royal.

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>> True. >> And had 20 different people in it.

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But I was like, yeah, do I want to see like nine triple threads and four?

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So I kind of shortened my down.

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I had to make some cuts that I didn't like, but I just went like,

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hey, these are my four, my favorite female wrestlers of all time.

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And two of them match up pretty well with tag team.

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There are two matchups of good tag team.

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We'll go with that.

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>> So I actually teased two other women's matches that I was like going through.

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So I was thinking about doing rear-lipply versus China as one.

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And then I thought about doing Charlotte versus Becky versus Sasha versus Bailey in a fatal

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for a way for horse woman's match.

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>> Yeah, see, I had Charlotte in a London on my short list.

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They're similar characters, but different areas as well.

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And then I actually had Bailey and Wendy Richter on my card as well.

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>> Wow. >> So, I thought just because of the areas and just,

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it's one of these units I talked about briefly like months ago.

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Like, you know, could you take a, who would be a past comparison to a modern star?

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And that's kind of how I was looking at this.

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Like, oh, a London Charlotte, very similar.

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Wendy Richter and Bailey, you actually went, Bailey was doing the hugger stuff.

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Very similar characters, rear and China, very kind of similar.

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So that was kind of my thought process, but yeah, I had some tough choices to make.

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I was I'm sure you did as well when it came to putting this card together.

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So you can't have a WrestleMania without the Undertaker, Dr. Trey. He is one of the greatest performers

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in WrestleMania history went, what do you go, 21 and 0 before losing to Brock at WrestleMania 30.

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And this match, the potential, this match actually happening.

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I mean, I'm looking at it on my street and I'm like, man, they missed this by like,

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three, four, maybe five years because Undertaker was moving really well for a good period of time

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there, especially in those like 20s of WrestleMania. Once we got to the 30s of WrestleMania,

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kind of was losing the Undertaker aura for a little bit and had some hit or miss performances

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admittedly. And I'm like, man, if this happened like the WrestleMania 20s time frame,

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this would have been absolute money. And I have the Undertaker taking on Goomther.

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I see this match on like, man, could you imagine if these two guys went on it?

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So I have Undertaker risk Goomther in my next match here.

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>> I love that match because I mean, that was one that I mean, Taker is arguably one of the biggest

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fans of Gunther. I don't know how many people I hear Undertaker speak glowingly about in the modern era.

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But Gunther is one of them, but just Undertaker was always called like the best pure striker in WWE.

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You have Goomther with those chops. Undertaker, I don't remember this,

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some of those matches he had with Rishon, Triple H, Flair, his chess would get really,

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really red at times from some of those shots. So just imagine the welts on Undertaker showing the

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humanity, the vulnerability in him, but then the punches to Gunther, rocking Gunther,

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like that would be an amazing match. So I have Taker in a match as well. And this is a match

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that I think to this day, you and I have talked a lot about how WWE missed the bow with Ronda and

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Becky, you just won on one. They missed the bow on this one as well. This is one that everybody thought

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was going to happen and never did. So I have the Undertaker going and staying all the crow.

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That's a match I think. If they did a bone yard version of this match with those two guys,

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like the cinematic storytelling with those two characters, I think would be phenomenal television.

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So that's one I think they missed the bow on and that I still to this day would have loved

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a scene happened. So that was a match that I had on my short list as well. I had Undertaker

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and staying. I remember talking about that at length, heading into WrestleMania 27 many,

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many years ago on SRTU. That was on my short list. And then from the Gunther side of things,

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Dr. Trey, I had Rake Flair versus Gunther on the short list. Just a chop.

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>> Just a chop match. Just the last man standing, just throw chops, last man standing wins.

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That's all you can do. You can't do no punches, no kicks, no suplexes, no fl- you literally just have

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to stand there. It'd be like the slappling, but for chops. >> Yeah, it would just-

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>> Dana White would love it. >> I told you off air, like I had Gunther on my card and I had to

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take him off because I just could not find a spot to put him in that I really wanted to see him in.

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Like I had, one of them was the WrestleMania match this year. I wanted to see which was John

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Seen in Gunther. That was on my card and I had to change it because I literally forgot

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two of the biggest stars of all time. >> Well, you know what, I thought would have been a Gunther

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dream match as well, but we thought was gonna happen but didn't because of outside stuff and

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rightfully so was Gunther versus Brock Lesnar. >> And that was actually on my card. I actually did have-

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that was my initial pick on the card was Gunther and Lesnar and then I dropped Lesnar off my card

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because I couldn't- then I had Lesnar and Vader on my card originally as well.

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>> Wow. >> You had Vader on there? Yeah, I love some big v-

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>> Did you just watch the Dark Side of the Ring from him? >> Well, it's my thing.

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I never liked Vader in WWF, but I loved- >> I loved- >> I loved Vader and WCW and I love Vader with

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the big mask in Japan. So that was gonna be my caveat. It's not Vader time Vader. It's Vader from

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Japan with the mask against Brock Lesnar because Vader in his prime was one of the greatest athletes

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I had ever seen for his side and how he can move and then matching up with Lesnar because I think

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Vader be one of the guys that wouldn't back down to Lesnar bullying him in a match.

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>> Yeah, the Macedon era of Vader was not good. So if you did not see that Dark Side of the Ring,

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go out of your way and check it out because that was a good one. All right, fifth match on the

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card here. I went back and forth on making this a 1v1 and then a triple threat match and I'm

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sticking with triple threat because I feel like I need to put this wrestler on there no matter what

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and it's a triple threat match for the WWE Intercontinental Championship as the macho man

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Randy Savage defends against Seth Freakin Rollins and Cody Rhodes. >> Very, very nice. I like that one.

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The contrast and styles and everything else and that would be phenomenal. I would love to see that

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match. I'll tell you what I'll do. I'll go with my triple threat match because my triple threat

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match also involves the macho man. But I went with who are some of the craziest most

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psychologically, you know, just out there people that I've seen. Two of these guys actually did

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wrestle, wrestling, other at WrestleMania, but by throwing the macho man in, I thought that would

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make this match even more entertaining. So I have Randy Orton versus Bre Wyatt versus the macho man

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Randy Savage. >> Wow, what a contrast it styles. >> The promos of macho man being crazy and over

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the top with the Randy Orton being kind of level and then the weirdness of Bre Wyatt. I just

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I love that contrast of those three guys, but very similar in the fact that they can be some of

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the most evil people in professional wrestling when you turn it up. You know, Randy Orton running

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around punting people, Bre Wyatt in Porterline trying to set people on fire and macho man just,

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I mean, he was so sadistic at times in WCW. So that was my pick for my triple threat match was those

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three guys going at it. >> Yeah, that would be some promo battles. >> Yeah.

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>> Could you imagine like Bre Wyatt cutting a promo and like macho man just when he would take

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his sunglasses off and even have that bug eyed look? >> Like, could you imagine Bre Wyatt as

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the kids show host leading in the match cutting a promo on macho man in the in the fun house.

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>> Yeah, they're in the play. >> Like, macho man just taking his glasses off looking at puppets like,

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what in the world am I doing here? Like something like that and then Randy Orton runs in and like

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RKOs, Mercy the Buzzard, you know, something like that. >> Yeah, I'm just laughing because I've just

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seen this vision. >> What am I doing here? >> I've never do a slim gym. >> They would do like some wacky crazy

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stuff. So I like it. I think that's pretty cool. That's fun. My six match here is a Hellen

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Cell match where the loser leaves WWE and Vince McMahon is the special guest referee. I'll

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wrestle with me in the 28th and of an air match. It is triple H versus CM Punk.

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That is fantastic. And then once again, this is the spot where I realize I don't have punk or triple H on my show.

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Yeah, I'm literally going through this. I'm like, but then again, it was part of it was like, I'm older.

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So I have a little bit longer or a little any interest to go through because I tied in a lot of my

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favorites from NWA that, you know, beta pairs is in WWE, but that that would be fantastic. But

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I kind of feel like Vince was screw punk just because, you know, triple H is a son-in-law.

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You know, but then again, if you factor, maybe Vince thinks that triple H screwed him out of WWE and he

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decides to decide with CM Punk, I mean, who knows. But like that's, have they ever, they wrestled

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the one time and that was it? >> Did triple H and punk wrestle each other?

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>> Well, we had old Kevin Nash thing came, remember when Nash showed up? >> I said they did and then

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they swapped him, right? >> Yeah, because punk was the champ and then they had to have triple H take the

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belt off of them or something. And that was part of Punk's frustration. >> It was night at

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champion, it was supposed to be Kevin Nash, but they said Nash had a hard issue and then years later,

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like they were like, it was never supposed to happen anyway, the match. >> Yeah.

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So, but yeah, like that, that, I mean, just, it's funny, I actually read an interview and I know we're

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kind of getting off track of it with this stuff. I read an interview with triple H who basically said,

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like, wasn't too long ago that somebody came to him and said, Punk doesn't like the creative on this.

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>> I saw this interview. >> And triple H said, haven't come in here and they sat down and

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hash it out. And now he said that now, Punk's one of his favorite people to collaborate with because

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they picture the business very similarly now. So it's just kind of ironic that like, you know,

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10 years ago, these guys hated each other and would have punched each other in airport security if

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they had the chance. And now they actually do love working together. So, but sometimes, you know,

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those similar personalities don't get along until they find common ground to break bread over. So.

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>> Yeah, no, I think it's great and it's best for business right now. I mean, this match was supposed

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to be the rumor match for WrestleMania 30 when CM Punk walked out. >> Yeah.

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>> So, building towards that. What is your six match, Dr. Try?

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>> So, since I don't have triple H or Punk on my show, I can't piggyback off you, but I can do

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something kind of similarly because both men are semi affiliated with this. I have a six man tag team

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of the NWO Hogan Hall and Nash versus Seth Rollins and Roman Reigns and Dean Ambrose the shield.

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>> Seth, Roman again? >> I have the NWO Hogan Hall and Nash versus the shield of Rollins,

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Reigns and Ambrose. >> Yeah, I was thinking of similar idea. Go for it, but keep explaining.

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>> But yeah, like it's arguably the two greatest factions in the history of wrestling,

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base off not just their contributions to the business, but also of individual,

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single success. I mean, Kogan, multiple time world champion, Nash, multiple time world champion,

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Hall, never world champion, but multiple time, you know, Intercontinental United States,

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television champion as well, which he threw that away. And then you have the success that Rollins,

457
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Reigns and Ambrose have had individually, plus their success as the shield, which basically ushered

458
00:26:56,980 --> 00:27:04,580
in a new era into WWE of these three man groups, which led to the Wyatt family, which then led also

459
00:27:04,580 --> 00:27:10,180
into Judgment Day and everything else we've seen from that. It's three MB, three MB of course.

460
00:27:10,180 --> 00:27:15,380
I mean, nobody can knock Slater, Mahal and McIntyre. >> Two world champions.

461
00:27:15,380 --> 00:27:25,140
>> I mean, the core, then we got those guys as well. But I mean, it did change modern day WWE,

462
00:27:25,140 --> 00:27:31,140
because Vince was never a big fan of stables, Hunter always was. Now we see more stables in WWE,

463
00:27:31,140 --> 00:27:36,740
because of the success of the shield hell. They're imitating it right now at NXT,

464
00:27:36,740 --> 00:27:42,900
like we talked about a couple weeks ago with Dark State. So yeah, just these two factions going at it,

465
00:27:42,900 --> 00:27:46,340
plus it was a way for me to get six of my favorite wrestlers on the card at one time as well.

466
00:27:46,340 --> 00:27:50,340
>> So it's funny with that direction, because I tried to figure out a way to do DX versus

467
00:27:50,340 --> 00:27:55,860
NW versus the shield. >> But I couldn't do it because I put those guys in other matches.

468
00:27:55,860 --> 00:28:01,220
>> Yeah, and then when you mentioned Triple H and Punk, I was like, well, Punk was there,

469
00:28:01,220 --> 00:28:06,740
and originally the shield would be his backup. That came to fruition for one pay-per-view,

470
00:28:06,740 --> 00:28:11,700
and then they were off on their own. Hunter, the tie-in, I mean at one point Sean Michaels was

471
00:28:11,700 --> 00:28:18,100
technically in the NWO when it was in WWE, and then plus his whole affiliation with the click. So

472
00:28:18,100 --> 00:28:21,780
there is a loose tie-in to your match of Triple H and CM Punk as well.

473
00:28:21,780 --> 00:28:26,180
>> Just because you mentioned the core to go a little sidetrack here. I don't know if this was back

474
00:28:26,180 --> 00:28:31,460
in the early days of SRTU, but I don't remember if I talked about it back then, but I was very high on

475
00:28:31,460 --> 00:28:38,180
Ezekiel Jackson, former Intercom of Champion Ezekiel. If the last ECW champion Ezekiel Jackson,

476
00:28:38,180 --> 00:28:43,380
and that never, ever played out to where I thought it was. >> You were also super high on

477
00:28:43,380 --> 00:28:48,500
Lars Sullivan. >> I was, that well, there's other things that I did not know about that got in the way there.

478
00:28:48,500 --> 00:28:57,460
That like 2008 to like 2010 11 era of WWE, man that was some bad shit.

479
00:28:57,460 --> 00:29:03,460
>> I mean, you guys remember like the whole version of the Nexus with Punk in Charge with Michael

480
00:29:03,460 --> 00:29:10,740
McGillicuddy and Husky Harris and Mason Ryan. Yeah, there was, and then the Ezekiel, the core broke

481
00:29:10,740 --> 00:29:16,340
off and you gave real slater in Barrett. And I was never super high on Ezekiel Jackson. I felt like he

482
00:29:16,340 --> 00:29:24,580
was vent his way of trying to bring back in Hamad Johnson type guy. And I just never felt like he had

483
00:29:24,580 --> 00:29:31,940
the look. I just never felt like he had the it factor to really take off and be a single star.

484
00:29:32,660 --> 00:29:37,460
It's kind of Vladimir Kauslov, like that whole era right in there of like those guys that you're like,

485
00:29:37,460 --> 00:29:44,580
well, he's got to look, he looks like a pro wrestler, but there's just not a lot to him to make it long term.

486
00:29:44,580 --> 00:29:50,340
>> Stay tuned. In the month of July, we are doing Ezekiel Jackson month where we do a four-part

487
00:29:50,340 --> 00:29:56,420
series on the career of Ezekiel Jackson here. >> Only if I can combine the Mason Ryan

488
00:29:56,420 --> 00:30:01,380
era into it as well because I was high on Mason Ryan. I thought he was the next Batista.

489
00:30:01,380 --> 00:30:06,020
>> Well, a lot of people did. And he was like, he's like extremely successful by the way in like

490
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Circus LA and like Las Vegas. So, props to Mason Ryan. We've got three matches to go here, four

491
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matches to go. My seventh match is a submission match for the WWE United States Championship as

492
00:30:17,060 --> 00:30:24,100
Bret Hart defends against Daniel Bryan. >> Ooh, that, once again, I don't have Daniel Bryan on my show.

493
00:30:24,100 --> 00:30:28,580
Damn it. >> I feel like you're listening to my car and you're like, damn it because I forgot that one.

494
00:30:28,580 --> 00:30:34,020
>> There literally is. And a lot of it is because like I added in some older guys into it and I didn't

495
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do as many multi-man matches as I probably could have. But yeah, a submission match between those two

496
00:30:40,100 --> 00:30:45,540
guys would be absolutely fantastic not to mention not just the submission holds themselves, but the

497
00:30:45,540 --> 00:30:51,140
counters like two of the best technical wrestlers. If not the two best technical wrestlers,

498
00:30:51,140 --> 00:30:55,860
I have ever seen in my life. You may have throw Zach Sabre Jr into that mix as well as far as

499
00:30:55,860 --> 00:31:03,380
a technical skill standpoint. But yeah, just those two guys going at it. I don't know how great the

500
00:31:03,380 --> 00:31:09,460
promos would be leading into it. It may just have to be nothing but creed playing in the background,

501
00:31:09,460 --> 00:31:14,420
hyping this match up. But- >> That would be desire.

502
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>> Yeah, I mean, that's all it is, you know, and then for Undertaker match, you throw in my way

503
00:31:20,180 --> 00:31:25,940
by Lynn Biscay. But yeah, like just on paper watching this, like this would be the- like if you put this

504
00:31:25,940 --> 00:31:31,300
on a wrestling match, this would be like the internet marks like wet dream wrestling match, like they

505
00:31:31,300 --> 00:31:35,540
would just be like, oh my god, I can watch them. I can watch them just do this for an hour and they'd

506
00:31:35,540 --> 00:31:41,060
be fine with it. So yeah, that's a fantastic technical match up. I love that match.

507
00:31:41,060 --> 00:31:48,980
So I'll do a bread match. How about that? So for my seventh match, I have a bread and a tag team

508
00:31:48,980 --> 00:31:54,260
match. And arguably it's because I had to condense my show down a little bit. But I have bread heart

509
00:31:54,260 --> 00:32:02,100
teaming up with Kevin Owens to take on Dusty Rhodes and Cody Rhodes. >> Nice, okay.

510
00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:08,260
>> I just, I thought like I originally had Cody and Brett one on one and Dusty and Kevin one on one.

511
00:32:08,260 --> 00:32:13,540
And I was like, you know what? Kevin Owens comes out a couple weeks ago wearing the bread hard jacket.

512
00:32:14,420 --> 00:32:20,500
Obviously we know how much, you know, Dusty and Cody together, like this makes sense on a lot of

513
00:32:20,500 --> 00:32:25,860
levels. If I have to kind of combine one, you're two singles matches into a good tag match, this would

514
00:32:25,860 --> 00:32:31,540
make a lot of sense because it's literally Father and Son against, you know, it's not Father and Son,

515
00:32:31,540 --> 00:32:38,020
but Brett in a lot of ways is a huge influence on Kevin Owens. And then you get a little bit of the

516
00:32:38,020 --> 00:32:44,180
America versus Canada stuff factored into it. The promos would be really, really great with Dusty

517
00:32:44,180 --> 00:32:49,700
and K.O. going back and forth. We saw how good the stuff with K.O. and Cody was earlier this year.

518
00:32:49,700 --> 00:32:54,260
Like I just think that those four guys would have a, you know, one held a tag match.

519
00:32:54,260 --> 00:33:00,420
>> My eighth match here is I feel like the match that got away. This has been rumored that they were

520
00:33:00,420 --> 00:33:06,020
trying to do these match, this match several times, but because of injuries, it never took place.

521
00:33:06,020 --> 00:33:11,060
The Rock versus HBK, Mr. WrestleMania, Sean Michaels.

522
00:33:12,420 --> 00:33:17,540
>> Yeah, I love that match. That was actually on my card as well. Like that was, so the Rock originally was

523
00:33:17,540 --> 00:33:22,500
one of the people I forgot about. >> You say that about a lot of people.

524
00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:28,660
>> Yeah, like I did not do as well with this as I had hoped I was going to do. Like I was trying

525
00:33:28,660 --> 00:33:34,260
to be a little smart, a little cheeky, you know, I got Dusty on the card, you know, trying to fit

526
00:33:34,260 --> 00:33:38,020
the, the Miracle Bons connection on the car, some of these other people I put on here. Like

527
00:33:38,740 --> 00:33:44,420
for some reason, the Rock completely slipped my mind and I went, oh, him and Sean Michaels would be a

528
00:33:44,420 --> 00:33:49,060
great matchup. And then I was like, oh, wait, I can do Sean and something else and it'd be a lot

529
00:33:49,060 --> 00:33:56,180
more fun. But yeah, that is a match they've had interactions, but I don't believe they actually

530
00:33:56,180 --> 00:34:03,380
ever stepped into a ring together as opponents. Because I don't know, yeah, I don't know if they

531
00:34:03,380 --> 00:34:08,020
ever had crossover once Sean came back from his back injury because I think that's when the

532
00:34:08,020 --> 00:34:12,660
about the time the Rock went away. So I don't think they ever had any physicality, but they did have

533
00:34:12,660 --> 00:34:19,140
at least one or two promo segments against each other at some point. Maybe, maybe, well, see,

534
00:34:19,140 --> 00:34:23,300
I'm trying to think if they ever did it when they did the battleground pay-per-views.

535
00:34:23,300 --> 00:34:27,140
I don't think that they were ever on opposing teams.

536
00:34:27,140 --> 00:34:33,620
>> Yeah, I don't think they've ever been in the ring together outside the time that I think HBK

537
00:34:36,260 --> 00:34:39,540
was just a special guest for for me for that first episode of SmackDown, right?

538
00:34:39,540 --> 00:34:44,340
>> Yeah, I think they've had some backstage interactions, you know, kind of crossing passes like that,

539
00:34:44,340 --> 00:34:49,940
but I don't think they have actually- >> Well, the word was that Michaels like buried the Rock,

540
00:34:49,940 --> 00:34:53,940
and then when the Rock got big, Rock didn't want anything to do with them.

541
00:34:53,940 --> 00:35:00,500
>> Yeah, and that was actually part of the issue that Rock had with Triple H for a while,

542
00:35:00,500 --> 00:35:04,420
was that because Sean buried them, the Rock thought Triple H would do the same thing.

543
00:35:05,460 --> 00:35:10,100
>> And just take your play, and get your- >> Yeah, Triple H had to prove to the Rock that like, hey, I'm not

544
00:35:10,100 --> 00:35:16,820
as- I hate to say, has political issue on was because literally he was in a lot of ways, but

545
00:35:16,820 --> 00:35:22,980
the latter match between Rock and Triple H is kind of what proved to Rock that Triple H was,

546
00:35:22,980 --> 00:35:24,980
you know, one of the good guys in wrestling.

547
00:35:24,980 --> 00:35:29,700
>> Yeah, okay, so I don't see- they just did microphone stuff back and forth, never done a match,

548
00:35:29,700 --> 00:35:33,300
but that was 98 to 2000, which I remember. I think they were in the- >> Yeah, I love that match.

549
00:35:33,300 --> 00:35:37,540
>> So there's corporation together. >> Yeah, when Sean was the commissioner,

550
00:35:37,540 --> 00:35:41,220
type corporation? >> Yes, remember he was commissioner for a while?

551
00:35:41,220 --> 00:35:44,980
>> Yeah, yeah, and he had the student tie in the cowboy hat. He looked like a

552
00:35:44,980 --> 00:35:48,980
thinner, well-dressed version of JR at that point. >> Yes, yes.

553
00:35:48,980 --> 00:35:54,020
>> Ninth match, you ready for the Ninth match? >> Well, I got to do my-

554
00:35:54,020 --> 00:35:57,860
I got to do my eighth match, so we did your eighth match. My eighth match, I'll do my Sean

555
00:35:57,860 --> 00:36:03,220
Michaels match, like I just said earlier, or a couple weeks ago, Sean Michaels, my favorite wrestler

556
00:36:03,220 --> 00:36:08,660
of all time. I had to put him in a spot where I thought this match would really shine and steal the show.

557
00:36:08,660 --> 00:36:15,380
So I have- for the Intercontinental Championship, it's a ladder match, four-way ladder match,

558
00:36:15,380 --> 00:36:22,020
Sean Michaels versus Eddie Guerrero, which was a rumored match before Eddie passed away, versus AJ

559
00:36:22,020 --> 00:36:28,820
Styles versus Sammy Zane. >> Wow. >> Like I took four of my favorite performers of all time,

560
00:36:28,820 --> 00:36:32,340
and I'm like, you guys, here's a ladder, you guys, go out there steal the show.

561
00:36:32,340 --> 00:36:38,740
To me, that is- out of all the matches I came up with, that's my favorite match. I want to-

562
00:36:38,740 --> 00:36:45,220
like that's a match. I may bust out WWE 2K25 and put that match on my TV at some point later tonight,

563
00:36:45,220 --> 00:36:51,700
just to see how it play out. But for those guys, great athletes, great entertainers,

564
00:36:51,700 --> 00:36:57,780
for the best sellers as well in the history of professional wrestling. So that is my favorite match

565
00:36:57,780 --> 00:37:02,420
I've put together on this card so far. That four-way ISE title ladder match.

566
00:37:02,420 --> 00:37:08,660
>> Yeah, that would have been a lot of fun. And like you said, the Eddie Guerrero, Sean Michaels match

567
00:37:08,660 --> 00:37:12,820
reportedly was supposed to happen, heading into that WrestleMania season,

568
00:37:12,820 --> 00:37:20,580
after before Eddie passed, or after Eddie passed away, obviously. So that was always- I don't know if

569
00:37:20,580 --> 00:37:25,220
WWE ever confirmed that was supposed to be the case, but that is what everybody's that we said.

570
00:37:25,220 --> 00:37:29,540
I think- so that would have been like WrestleMania 20- when did-

571
00:37:29,540 --> 00:37:33,700
>> Right, when did that all? >> 22, he won 22.

572
00:37:33,700 --> 00:37:36,900
>> So when was Sean in Kurt, was that 21?

573
00:37:36,900 --> 00:37:38,500
>> That was 21 in LA.

574
00:37:38,500 --> 00:37:43,780
>> And then Sean and Eddie was supposed to be- yeah, Sean and Eddie was supposed to be at 22.

575
00:37:43,780 --> 00:37:48,420
I think Bruce Pritchard actually confirmed that that was on Vince's list.

576
00:37:48,420 --> 00:37:50,900
>> Okay, so he did that on something in the wrestle?

577
00:37:50,900 --> 00:37:56,980
>> Yeah, I'm pretty sure I heard him say that on that. Vince always mapped out his WrestleMania list a year at a time.

578
00:37:56,980 --> 00:38:00,500
And Sean and Eddie was on his list for 22.

579
00:38:00,500 --> 00:38:04,740
>> And if I remember that correctly, that was New Year's Revolution, Triple H stores quadriceps.

580
00:38:04,740 --> 00:38:08,740
So then HBK took Triple H's spot in the main event of WrestleMania 22 again, seeing that-

581
00:38:08,740 --> 00:38:10,500
>> Yep, yep, exactly.

582
00:38:10,500 --> 00:38:13,540
>> Yeah, and then Triple H and seeing it in the year after.

583
00:38:13,540 --> 00:38:16,260
>> Mm-hm, yep, that's exactly right.

584
00:38:16,260 --> 00:38:19,540
So, that's a tough one. That would have been amazing.

585
00:38:19,540 --> 00:38:24,980
So Miss Eddie a lot, I still love that the Eddie charts go on and on and on, and both then we made it.

586
00:38:24,980 --> 00:38:30,740
>> I will say, I wish WWE would go in in AW2, limit the three amigos.

587
00:38:30,740 --> 00:38:32,420
Like you can't have everybody busting.

588
00:38:32,420 --> 00:38:36,260
Like anybody who has a loose affiliation with Eddie gets to do three amigos.

589
00:38:36,260 --> 00:38:39,540
And I'm like, sorry, you guys are making it less special.

590
00:38:39,540 --> 00:38:43,780
>> Top popular moves in professional wrestling, three amigos in Canadian Destroyer.

591
00:38:44,420 --> 00:38:47,300
>> Yeah, super kick, well, are super kicks passed, say now?

592
00:38:47,300 --> 00:38:48,820
>> Yeah, they're passed, say.

593
00:38:48,820 --> 00:38:50,020
>> Okay.

594
00:38:50,020 --> 00:38:52,420
>> All right, we've got two matches to go here, my ninth match.

595
00:38:52,420 --> 00:38:56,420
Super John Cena versus Super Hulk Hogan.

596
00:38:56,420 --> 00:38:57,460
Cena versus Hogan.

597
00:38:57,460 --> 00:39:07,220
>> So I love that because in a lot of ways, if you go back to WrestleMania 29,

598
00:39:07,220 --> 00:39:10,740
when we were doing the show like that was our, we both wanted Cena-

599
00:39:10,740 --> 00:39:14,820
I want to see the turn heel and become the new version of what Hollywood Hogan was.

600
00:39:14,820 --> 00:39:19,540
And even leading into this year's WrestleMania, when Cena first turned heel,

601
00:39:19,540 --> 00:39:25,060
I was like, man, if we get a Hollywood John Cena with Hollywood Rock,

602
00:39:25,060 --> 00:39:26,660
like that would be so much fun.

603
00:39:26,660 --> 00:39:31,940
Unfortunately, we didn't get those versions, but yes, on my initial list,

604
00:39:31,940 --> 00:39:35,780
that was one of my main matchups was Cena versus Hogan.

605
00:39:35,780 --> 00:39:39,540
I love that, it is literally the battle of the two Superman and

606
00:39:39,540 --> 00:39:40,020
the Super.

607
00:39:40,020 --> 00:39:44,340
Now, are you doing red and yellow Hogan versus Hustle loyalty respects, John Cena?

608
00:39:44,340 --> 00:39:52,100
>> Of course, you have to, like 80s Hogan versus 2005, John Cena.

609
00:39:52,100 --> 00:39:58,900
>> Yeah, okay, because yeah, like I mean, and once again, it's crazy, both those guys in WWE

610
00:39:58,900 --> 00:40:00,500
at the same time and they never cross paths.

611
00:40:00,500 --> 00:40:01,300
>> Mm-hm.

612
00:40:01,300 --> 00:40:05,380
>> Yeah, no, I love that match, like I said, that was on my card,

613
00:40:05,380 --> 00:40:08,340
two of the biggest stars in the history of our business going at it.

614
00:40:08,340 --> 00:40:09,940
So, I'll piggyback off that one.

615
00:40:09,940 --> 00:40:18,660
So, I have for my WWE World Championship, I have John Cena versus Stone Cold Steve Austin.

616
00:40:18,660 --> 00:40:19,460
>> Mm-hm.

617
00:40:19,460 --> 00:40:24,580
>> My thought process on this was literally the anti-hero versus Superman,

618
00:40:24,580 --> 00:40:29,860
the guy that nobody really wanted, like in a lot of ways, nobody really wanted to be the face of

619
00:40:29,860 --> 00:40:33,380
the company versus the guy that everybody wanted to be the face of the company.

620
00:40:33,940 --> 00:40:42,820
Two contrasting styles of baby faces going at it, Cena kicking out of like three stunners, Austin

621
00:40:42,820 --> 00:40:50,900
kicking out a couple attitude adjustments, not tapping out to the STFU,

622
00:40:50,900 --> 00:40:58,900
reaching for the ropes, blood pouring off his face, Austin Brett Hart just let those two

623
00:40:58,900 --> 00:41:01,060
the biggest stars in history of our business go at it.

624
00:41:01,060 --> 00:41:03,060
>> Yeah, that would be pretty amazing.

625
00:41:04,020 --> 00:41:09,140
I think that would be awesome and that was something that I think could have happened at times.

626
00:41:09,140 --> 00:41:14,180
You know, I think if Austin wanted to return, I mean that would have been a match right there, right?

627
00:41:14,180 --> 00:41:20,580
>> Well, go back to WrestleMania 30, I'm doing my math here, 34, in New Orleans,

628
00:41:20,580 --> 00:41:24,580
John Cena searching for an opponent, he got the undertaker.

629
00:41:24,580 --> 00:41:27,780
How awesome would it have been if they were like, yeah, you got to match, you got to match,

630
00:41:27,780 --> 00:41:31,700
come backstage, see the runs out there and then the glass breaks and it's Austin instead of

631
00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:35,460
undertaker. >> That would have been pretty awesome. By the way, John Cena undertaker stuff,

632
00:41:35,460 --> 00:41:38,900
you were there alive, one of the most awkward moments in WrestleMania history.

633
00:41:38,900 --> 00:41:46,740
>> Yeah, that is still this day. I'm always amazed that I created a child that weekend,

634
00:41:46,740 --> 00:41:53,940
by the way, for those of you curious, that was literally the conception of young Sammy Franklin

635
00:41:53,940 --> 00:41:59,380
was that weekend in New Orleans. >> That's why, that was, is because he left

636
00:41:59,380 --> 00:42:03,940
Reigns Lesnar matrily. >> Yeah, I left Reigns Lesnar early to go make Sammy

637
00:42:03,940 --> 00:42:10,420
Franklin who just jumped on the bed next to me while I talk about him. So yeah, like that was still

638
00:42:10,420 --> 00:42:17,220
to this day. I'm like, I don't understand why they did it that way. It still this day does not

639
00:42:17,220 --> 00:42:20,580
make sense. Like if you have promoted Cena versus the undertaker for like a month heading into

640
00:42:20,580 --> 00:42:25,460
WrestleMania, like how many more ticket sales and pay-per-view buys would you have had, is that?

641
00:42:25,460 --> 00:42:29,540
Like we all kind of assumed that's where it was going because he was doing that whole like trying to

642
00:42:29,540 --> 00:42:34,420
call them out. But yeah, but I held that match last like five minutes. It was like a total squash match

643
00:42:34,420 --> 00:42:39,940
for your super baby face champion against the undertaker. >> Very awkward moment, very awkward moment.

644
00:42:39,940 --> 00:42:44,580
And now to our main event, Dr. Trey, you ready to reveal the main event of our ultimate,

645
00:42:44,580 --> 00:42:49,540
ultimate WrestleMania match of all time? Match card of all time? Here we go. >> Yeah, absolutely.

646
00:42:49,540 --> 00:42:58,340
For the Undisputed WWE Championship, the 2020 to 2024 Tribal Chief Run of Roman Reigns

647
00:42:58,340 --> 00:43:06,020
takes on the 1997 to 2001 run of Stone Cold Steve Austin. So my main event, Roman Reigns

648
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offends the Undisputed WWE Championship against Stone Cold Steve Austin.

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I love it. I absolutely love it. Like that is fantastic. Especially given the fact of the

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promos between those guys as you head into your WrestleMania matchups, like Austin,

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the blue-collar champion, Roman just ascending into God mode, like that battle back and forth.

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And then Austin, theoretically having to run through the bloodline to get to Roman Reigns

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would have been great as well. Vince coming out to side with Roman, even with Paul Haman out there as

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well, like that would be great. So yeah, the Hempaper Fantastic, main event match, and better than

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mine. I'll give you your car's better than mine. I hate playing it and it was my idea,

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but that matchups is fantastic. So yeah, there you go. >> There it is. So wait, do you have a

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tenth match? >> Yes, I do. >> Okay, okay. >> So you're better than mine. You're

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better than mine. I mean, you're really practicing it. Yeah, my scene, an awesome match probably would

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have been my main event, Nagelai. I went out of order here, but I did for the undisputed WWE

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championship, the biggest star in the history of professional wrestling, the People's champ,

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the most electrifying man in the world, going up against the 16-time World Heavyweight Champion,

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the jet flying, limousine riding, wheeling, dealing, kissed, dealing, son of a gun, nature boy,

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Rick Flair. >> Wow. >> I want to see these promos go at it. I want to see how these guys dress

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heading into it. I want to see flair suits against rock suits. I think they did wrestle once in WWE,

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but I want to add a WrestleMania match cause I want to see that was Rick Flair in his 50s.

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I want to see Rick Flair in his 30s. I want to see prime Rick Flair. I'm talking

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87, 88, 89, that Survivor Series or the Royal Rumble win. I want to see that Rick Flair

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against the rock. The version we got, that was about 20 years late. And maybe it's because how much

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I love rock and hogan. We really didn't, that was rock versus flair and flair was like the second

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dairy guy to triple age. That was not prime flair. I want to see prime flair, prime rock,

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those promos, those clothes, the whole nine yards. I think that would be a fantastic main event

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of WrestleMania. >> So there you go. There are ultimate WrestleMania cards for both myself and

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Dr. Trey. Feel free to chime in on your thoughts on X at SRT podcast, or on Facebook, Facebook.com/thestorrealthosshow.

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Now, at the start of the show, I asked Chat GPT build a ultimate WrestleMania card with 10 matches

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that includes wrestlers who performed in the WWE. And this is what they responded to me with Dr. Trey.

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They wrote, "Absolutely. Here's an ultimate WrestleMania card featuring only wrestlers who have

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performed in WWE across any era. It's a 10 match dream lineup mixing classic legends, modern icons,

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and peak era stars with a balance of stipulations and title belts." >> Wow.

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The first match here is a high-flying, fast-paced spectacle that shows off agility innovation

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across eras. It's Rey Mysterio versus Ricochet. >> Wow. Okay. So that would be, yeah, your spot

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fest over the top, fantastic, like that. If you're starting to show hot, that's how you started show

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hot, like those two guys going at it. Now, also, I want Rey Mysterio circa 1999-2001 versus Ricochet.

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And I'll even take this new version of Ricochet with the weird heel character to kind of play

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up good and bad as well, but yeah, like that would be a fun, exciting matchup.

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>> Next here is a tag team legacy battle, edge of your seat chaos and tag team psychology,

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they write. It's edging Christian versus the Usos in ATLC match. >> I mean, if you're going to have

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something that is edge of your seat, you have to have edge in the match, right? Like that's,

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there's a foregone conclusion like that. Now, which version of the Usos do you want in this

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match, Jeff? Do you want, you know, tribal, like early day Usos do you want Usos potentially?

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>> No, no. You need bloodline. >> Okay. >> You need bloodline. You need bloodline.

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>> Okay. >> So many of 39. You need that bloodline one. >> So, okay. So, yeah. So I'm just trying,

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like once again, I'm going to heel baby face. I'm trying to, like, so are you having edge in

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Christian heel five second pose and then Usos are kind of quasi-baby faces? Or are you going

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edge in Christian baby face, heel Usos? >> I think you do heel edge in Christian. That was the best.

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And I think you do baby face Usos. >> Yeah, just, well, I mean, through all the ones up,

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they were semi-baby faces, but they're, you know, they're tweeter very well, yeah, but, yeah,

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that's why edge in Christian five second pose, heel edge in Christian, fantastic for the Usos.

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>> Next is two monsters in their prime, no escape, just destruction. It is a hell in a cell match

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between Brock Lesnar and Batista. >> Yeah, I don't, yeah. >> No, don't do that. >> No, no,

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not hell in a cell. Like, when they said, when they said monsters, I'm like, let's throw Brock Lesnar

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and Andre the giant in hell in a cell. >> That would be cool. Next is a six-man classic with legends,

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technicians, and charisma, pure chaos, and greatness. It's a ladder match for the inner,

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inner continental championship. It's Randy Savage versus Eddie Guerrero versus Brett Hart,

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versus Randy Orin, versus Kurt Angle, versus the Rock. >> I think they're just kind of the Rock

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a little bit. I love the other five guys in there. Rock needs to be higher on your card, but

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how awesome would it be for savers to go for the elbow and Randy intercepts them into an RKO?

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>> Or, yeah, he gets RKOed and then the Rock hits the people elbow. >> Yeah, I'm in the

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savage. >> I want to see the Rock do the people elbow off the ladder though. I want to see him somehow

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hop, climb, throw the elbow pad, and then drop the elbow from the ladder. >> Yeah, that'd be pretty cool.

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Next match here actually took place. It was at Summerslam. It's the greatest of the past versus

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the greatest of the present. A generational clash. It's the women's championship match as Tristratus

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takes on Charlotte Flair. >> Yeah, that was in Toronto, right? >> Mm-hm.

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>> Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, I mean, ChatGPT, I mean, it is an ultimate match. I mean, generational

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talents, probably two of the greatest of their generations. So it makes sense, but yeah, it's just,

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we've seen that one, so that does kind of push it down the list a little bit. >> Well, we've seen

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this one too. It actually happened at WrestleMania 33. It's Mementor versus Protégé, a brutal

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storytelling heavy match with emotional stakes. No-holds-barred match, Triple H versus Seth Rollins.

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>> Yeah, yeah. Also, Triple H versus Ric Flair in his prime wouldn't have been bad as well. But

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Seth, I mean, you got, like, Seth's arguably the workhorse of our generation, although he has been

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injured a couple of times, but he does everything. To me, Seth is the modern day Randy Savage, like he

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can flip back and forth. He's got the personal, he's got the charisma. But yeah, that storytelling,

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that was an okay match at WrestleMania 33, but I don't think it's all that memorable, really.

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>> Next is Mr. WrestleMania versus the phenomenal one in a pure wrestling clinic, Sean Michaels versus

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AJ Styles. >> I mean, I had that on my car as part of my ladder match, so yeah, like, that's,

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I know AJ has been tried to get Sean to come out of retirement for one match.

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So, I mean, it's on AJ's bucket list. And we haven't seen Sean Michaels wrestle since the DX

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Brothers of Destruction match in Saudi Arabia. So, yeah, like, Don Paeper,

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dude, that would be a classic match. I mean, the Supercake from the phenomenal form and the match,

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that, that writes itself. >> Brothers of Destruction versus DX in Saudi Arabia is one of Dr. Trace

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favorite matches, well, time. >> Did everybody, like, everybody got hurt in that match except Sean?

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>> Yes, everybody got hurt in that match. Cain's mask fell off, Triple H stores biceps.

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This was actually on your car, Dr. Trace. The dream match, we never got it WrestleMania,

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two dark, mysterious legends finally clashed the Undertaker versus Sting.

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>> Yeah, I mean, look, I mean, Chad G-P-T has good taste. I mean, what can I say about that? Yeah,

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like, now once again, when they were both in W at the same time, I don't want that match to happen.

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If you did it, I want it to be AJ, Taker, Boneyard, Matchstyle, Cinematic,

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which is what AEW did really well with Sting during his time in AEW. Those cinematic matches,

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so, you know, Sting is not going to sell, but even in their prime, a cinematic match like that would

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be so fantastic. Better than Orden Bray Wyatt, Treehouse of Horror Match.

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This match was on my card, Battle of Two Faces of the Company in their prime, respect,

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ego, and legacy on the line WWE Championship match, John Cena versus Hulk Hogan.

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>> Yeah, once again, I mean, that's, that was a fantastic choice by you, like those are literally the two

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measuring sticks for longevity and baby face runs and maybe professional wrestling history. I mean,

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you got Hogan that did it for arguably 15 years and Cena did it for 20, so yeah, on paper,

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that makes a lot of sense. >> And then this is the main event, this match was on my

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card as well, icon of the attitude air versus travel chief, power, presence, and storytelling,

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collide, world heavyweight, championship match, Stone Cold, Steve Austin versus Roman Reigns.

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>> Now, did you log in to chat GPC under your Gmail account? Maybe they're just placating you and

749
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just going, you know what? Well, throw Dr. Treyabone here and get one of his matches on here, but the

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rest of them, yeah, it's all Jeff Pay, but no, that was a fantastic pick, the Contrast of the

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Styles, and like I said earlier, like the storyline of Austin going through solo, then going through

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the Usos and then finally getting to Roman and then not to mention this is something I forgot

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about when you mentioned this, the history of Paul Heyman and Stone Cold Steve Austin, the

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Dane Andrews Alliance, ECW, where the Stone Cold character got launched, you know, that's some

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great storytelling as well, so that'd be a fantastic storyline, great promos, the whole build,

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heading into WrestleMania, so once again, who knows for you to come up with that match?

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>> So there you go, there is our Ultimate Wrestling Mini-Cards and Chat GPC, which is now the third

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