Oct. 11, 2024

Tony Khan, We Have A Problem! | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #765 – 10/10/24

Tony Khan, We Have A Problem! | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #765 – 10/10/24

On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:

- -- We recap & review "WWE Bad Blood!"
- -- Discuss if the WWE's business model for PLE weekends is the right thing to do for fans!
- -- Why AEW has another major problem on their hands!
- -- And we...

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On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:

  • -- We recap & review "WWE Bad Blood!"
  • -- Discuss if the WWE's business model for PLE weekends is the right thing to do for fans!
  • -- Why AEW has another major problem on their hands!
  • -- And we preview & predict "AEW WrestleDream!"

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It's still Welcome everybody.

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Welcome to this week's edition It's Still Real does Show

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episode number seven and sixty five for October tenth, twenty

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twenty four. This year, w W Bad Blood Recap in a W.

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Russell Green Preview and predictions edition of ass R Team You,

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I am one half of the show. I am Jeff Peck,

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joined every single week my host one only, doctor Trey Franklin.

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Doctor Trey. Did we see a Match of the Year

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candidate this past weekend? My friend?

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Oh, I mean that niat Jack's Bailey match was pretty smoking,

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So I mean it's it's gotta be up.

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There, jeffs I was talking about Rhea and Live, but

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I guess I will digress from that. Welcome one and

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all to this week's edition of SRTU. I am Jeff Peck,

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Doctor Trey. Over there, Bad Blood Recap and review. We'll

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talk a little bit about some of the business model

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that WWE has been doing as of late during pl weekends.

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AW has a major problem on its hand, and it

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comes all from a former rival of theirs. Now and

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of course, we will preview and predict a W. Russell

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Dream taking place this Saturday from Tacoma, Washington, Doctor Trey.

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Let's start with Bad Blood. It was this past Saturday

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from the State Farm Marine and Atlanta, Georgia. Before we

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begin with each match here, this felt like a bigger

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than normal pay per view.

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Yeah, I mean, this is I guess because there a

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b pay per view, but I mean you look at

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the I'm gonna say the co main events. That's some

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SummerSlam quality matches right there. So yeah, it felt bigger.

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They hyped it up bigger. I mean a lot of

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the stuff about the history of Blood coming into play,

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like they did a really good job of making this

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feel like much, you know, way more than a Great

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Balls of Fire Part two.

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Yeah, this they had legends there, They had segments with

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the legends as well. Is that something WWE needs to

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do more often during these pls. I don't think we

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have a main roster PLD now until Survivor series, But

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is this something that we need to see in between

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the Big four or five that we does.

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We do have Crown Jewel November Sex.

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You're right, absolutely forgot about that.

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One, so we do have that one.

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But you know, I read some stuff from DDP, who

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was featured at Bad Blood and he said that he's

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excited because the current regime is kind of playing into

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legend stuff. They're they like he said, they were backstage

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people were giving them respect and you know, treating them

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with dignity in class, which wasn't always the case in

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years past. You know, I'm a big proponent of it

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because as I get older and as you get older,

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like these are some of the people that we grew

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up watching, but they're also the ones who paved the

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way for this current generation. Like we have a fondness

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for Attitude Era. I have a fondness for like mid eighties,

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late eighties wrestling, and that's kind of who you see featured.

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And you know, a lot of our heroes have passed on.

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So when I get to see it Arn Anderson and

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a totally Blanchard, and I hear Corey Graves gush about

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the Brainbusters, you know, it makes my heart feel good

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when you see a DDP, when you see XPOT, when

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you see those guys out there, you're like, man, like,

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some of that stuff is just fantastic.

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And you look at a guy like DDP, who was not.

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Treated very well during his time in WWE, but was

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fantastic in WCW. See him get that respect from you know,

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the Triple H regime, it just it it's really good

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for you know, the diehard wrestling fan in me.

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Yeah, you know, I read the same comments from DDP.

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It was I think he put it out there on

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a tweet. I've never known WWE, even in the previous

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regime led by Vince to being like jerks to the legends.

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Maybe it was specific legends, maybe guys that came from

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WW that was a little bit different, which DDP alludes

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to in his comment. So I was surprised to see

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those comments overall. But it does feel like in a

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lot of different levels that Triple H and the current

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regime are doing everything they can to write every single

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wrong that the previous administration had, to make it more

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of a welcoming company both inside and outside, internally and externally.

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And it's another element as to why it feels like

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which we'll talk about later on the show. We is

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really stretching the gap between them and AW and the

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United States right now.

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Yeah, I mean.

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In ring and this is the year and I have

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talked about many, many times over the last five years,

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and ringwise, AW probably beats WWE a lot of the time,

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but it's all the ancillary or you know, ancillary stuff

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around it that is what is causing this this chasm

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between WWE and AW I mean, you go back three years,

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it was getting close. You know, the gap was pretty narrow,

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and it just feels like, you know, ever since Triple

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Ah took over, like thet it's been all gas, no

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break for WWE, and they're just stretching this stuff out,

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and you know it's like AEW sometimes can't get out

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of their own way. So it's just you know, I mean,

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aaw' has always been has been good to their legends.

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You know, when Stein comes in and Flair came in,

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a lot of those guys came in too.

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I mean, the hell they've had Brett Hart.

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I mean, they've had DDP, Like they've had like a

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lot of these guys. And for some reason though, it's

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just everybody kind of matriculates back to WWE and now

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they're being treated on a different level, I guess, or

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just made to feel more welcome and more home.

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And a lot of that probably is because of Triple Agent.

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The fact that you know, he grew up a fan

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of wrestling, got into wrestling looked up to a lot

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of these guys, or worked with a lot of these guys.

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Why wouldn't you treat your peers and your heroes with respect,

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where maybe the previous administration just looked at them as

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kind of employees. You know, there's a different context, you

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know to it now as opposed to years past.

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Yeah, I've never understood some of that stuff, where like

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the previous regime would would kind of ghost legends or

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be upset if a legend appeared in TNA or AW

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depending on the year of activity. It just seemed very

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strange to me. So that was a huge point coming

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out of Bad Blood. Like the overall vibe of the

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show top to bottom was like this, this is a

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big deal, ple and I did not get any of

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that vibe going into it. I was like, this is

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feeling like in the same equivalency as a SummerSlam or

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Royal Rumble survivor series of WrestleMania. Probably not to the

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degree of a WrestleMania or a SummerSlam per se, but

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it was a lot of hype around it, and I'm like,

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this could be something that they do all the time.

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It does not need to be just you know one

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show once in a while, because maybe they're trying to

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impress the city of Atlanta to run another WrestleMania there,

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which Cody alluded to towards the end of the night

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once in I think the dark segment as the show closed. So,

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I mean, Atlanta does have a lot of great wrestling history.

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Maybe that has a lot to do with it. WCW

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that was their home for the longest time. I don't know.

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I thought it was just very very interesting. I'm like, man,

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they are really putting a lot of care and time

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into a show that well, there were some great builds.

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I just never looked at it as like this is

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a big deal ple for we, So let's get into

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it here, doctor Trey. They kicked off the show with

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c I'm Punk defeating Drew McIntyre and Hell in a

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cell match. You and I both had see them punk

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in this one heck of a finale for a really

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great feud. This match out at all. It had violent

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storytelling and emotion. Amazing job by both men over the

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last ten months, and with the three matches that took

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place during this feud, each match got better and I

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am sad to see this feud conclude because it was

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so damn good. I felt like Punkin McIntyre should have

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taken about the end of this one for the feud.

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But they put together this past year. Keep in mind

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ten months feuding, like seven of them were spent with

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one or both of them on the shelf, and then

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three matches since SummerSlam. Tremendous, tremendous job by both men here,

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doctor for the last ten months of entertainment and a

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great feud. Your thoughts on the Hell in a Cell match?

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I mean, I'll first of all, go with the feud.

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The feud itself was fantastic. I mean it's you know,

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to me, there's two feuds of the year as we

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get towards the end of the year, and this one's

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right there with you know, hang Man and Swerve, and

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in this one probably maybe has slightly ahead of it,

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you know, just kind of in the tail end of

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twenty twenty four. But like this match, to me, this

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is like the old school Helena Cel kind of matchups

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like we've gotten I don't know, I don't know if

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Helena Cell has gotten soft over the years, but you know,

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you go back to this stuff with like Seth and

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the fiend and maybe Randy Orton and Jeff Hardy and

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I mean they've been okay, but I mean this was

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like violence on the level of like you know, Undertaker

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mankind Undertaker and Edge, like the Shawn Michaels Triple h ones,

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like this is up there with those. It's like, man,

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I I this was just an incredible match, some good storytelling,

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but the violence, the brutality, I mean, stuff like that.

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That's that's the stuff that we that we've missed in

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pro wrestling, especially when it makes sense. This isn't you know,

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Cody running into a wall at aw for no reason.

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It's put his head opened like this. The violence in

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this made sense, and that that's what always made you know, guys,

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I guess love the azwd Errs goes Hey, it's super

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violent and it makes sense.

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And these two guys.

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Blurred that line of you know, work and shoot into

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like do they really hate each other as much?

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Because you got to really trust.

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The other guy you're working with to go to that

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level of violence, and if you hate some but it's

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kind of hard to trust them. So just a phenomenal

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job by these two guys showing them why they're two

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of the best performers in wrestling today.

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I feel like we talked about it one time on

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the podcast that like did Hell and Hassel jump the

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Shark because it felt like they you know, they do

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it once a year basically at this point, and you know,

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you've seen it all. And I felt like, similar to

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you that with this match. While there obviously obviously are

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spots that we've seen before, it just had a different

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feel and vibe around it. And I don't know if

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that was the build I certainly played a major part

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in it. The match itself, like it just had a

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different feel to all in a cell match that we

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as fans have not connected with in some time.

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Yeah, I mean with this whole thing was you know created.

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It was supposed to be like the ultimate way to

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end a rivalry, like there was no escape, Like this

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is just brutality for brutality, and you know, you go

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back to you know, even Shawn Michaels undertaking some these

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other ones that through the years, like they were like

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big blowoffs to feuds and then over the last few years.

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I mean to me, it was right around the time

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that they actually made the Payer review about it.

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But the Red, the Red Helena Cell.

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That was bad.

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Cemented me for it.

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I mean they were chanting aed up at the end

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of that one.

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Yeah, you know, it was just like, dear God, it

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was just so bad. But and it did kind of

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jump the shark, so to speak, especially because they weren't

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really using it any other so I think they only

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used it one other time. I think they use it

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at a WrestleMania was that Shane and Undertaker WrestleMania was

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that Helena Cell that.

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Was And they have used it in the past WrestleMania

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as well for often forgotten match.

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it's like, you know, for years, it was you know,

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in the early days of it, it was we have

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to settle this feud. It is a blood feud. We

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need to settle this and move on. And that was

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the way you did it. And you know, over the

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years it's like, oh, we'll just do it at you know.

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We'll just have a pay per view and it's two

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or three Helena Seale matches and you know, but then

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we hardly ever see it anymore. It's like, man, it's

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better like this where it's kind of sprinkled in to

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kind of settle a rivalry as opposed to just having

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it as you know, a pay per view gimmick, much

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like the way TLC was done over the years.

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Two questions free. I think the first one's really easy.

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Not too sure where you're going to land on this one,

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because it also may be tipping your hand. I'm certainly

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tipping my hand. First question, is Doctor Trey end a year.

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It's about eight weeks away here we'll have our award

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show spectacularly closed out twenty twenty four, which is mind

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blowing to say out loud. When we discuss feud of

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the Year? Is this punk drumactar feud? And I laugh

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when I say this because I think it's an easy question.

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Is it a major candidate in that category?

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of the year. This is one of them, and then

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Swerve and Hangman is the other one. So it's one

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of the top two.

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And then I don't know about this one. You're ready

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Match of the Year candidate? Does this match fall into

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a match that we discussed at the end of the

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year when it comes to Match of the year.

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I think it will just because like there's I don't

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I don't know if you can say that there is

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some memorable moments in this match as far as like

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I can't believe I just saw that. Maybe the Toolbox headshots,

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you know, is one of them. But like as I

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sit here five days posted, I can't remember other than

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the finish and the Toolbox shots, Like I'm like, oh

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my god, I can't believe I saw that. But I

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remember the feeling I get, and I remember the brutality of.

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It, so that puts it.

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I don't know if it is the match of the

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year yet, but it's in the conversation at least.

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And then bonus questionaire because it's the one that just

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came into my hat. Compare this second chapter of cmpunk

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the return professional wrestling that started in aw How does

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this feud in match with Drew McIntyre. Matches with Drew

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McIntyre compare to the stuff that he did in All

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wrestling previously coming back to.

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WWA, this feud is the best thing he's done since

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he's returned to wrestling. This match is probably up there

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with the MJF Dog color match, but the run itself.

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I mean, this is.

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If you want CM Punk and you want the good Cmpunk,

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this is the rivalry to kind of showcase it because

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it had you know, some I mean.

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He's not the wrestler he was ten years ago. I

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think we can all agree with that.

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He's still pretty good, but a lot of that match

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that we saw was kind of like, oh, it's the

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you know, it's the best hits of CM Punk in

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this match. Hits the knee in the corner of the

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running bulldog, it's the little neck breaker he does. It's

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kind of those things. He's not the technical. We saw

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the Anacon device. There you go, there's another one. I remember,

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he's not the technical wrestler he was ten years ago

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when he left WW eleven years ago.

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Ever long it's been.

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Uh, he's still pretty good, but this is if you're

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signing CM Punk. This is what you would show to

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people and say, hey, we're signing this guy. And I

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don't think AW ever really capitalized on it.

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And in part of it was Punk's fault.

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Maybe Punk was trying to do too much and that's

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why he kept getting hurt in AW which would then

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short change some of those rivalries. But you know, really,

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this is the best rivalry we've had in wrestling that

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this in Swerving and Hayman in quite some time, because

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it's gone on so long and it feels so personal.

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But this is the best we've seen of Seam Punkin

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in a decade.

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I would say, ever since Brawl Out with Punk there

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has been some doubt in regards to his innring ability,

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his longevity. Does he still have it? And he found

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it again during these last three matches with Drew McIntyre.

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I thought this was like, Okay, there is that old

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sampunk still in there. What's really cool about the entire

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thing is when he came back to we eleven months

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ago now, the immediate thought from everyone was, all right,

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we're going to get the punk Rollin stuff. It was

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everything that you thought. It was everything that you read,

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It was everything that you thought what we were going

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to see once you were watching television, and certainly feels

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that way from what we saw on RAW this past

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Monday night, that that is the direction now coming out

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of this as well. Even though there were some rumblings

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of punkin Gunther coming up here as well. To me,

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this was never on my radar a feud with Dream McIntyre.

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I was like, this is never on my radar and

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became so organic, and it became so much fun, and

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it became so much entertaining, and you really felt like

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these two guys legitimately hate each other and it's possibly

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true who knows with professional wrestling. Then I was like, man,

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this is tough that we just don't get to see

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and feel and experience anymore. So organic, so much fun,

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so much entertainment. Major major props to both guys, and

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I hope this leads to bigger and brighter things for them.

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Here to close up twenty twenty four and WWII and

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also head into the restu Mainting forty one season in

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the early part of twenty twenty five. Let's get to

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the next match here. Doctor Trey Nijacks defeats Bailey to

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retain the WA Women's Championship. We both at Nia Jackson

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this one. I thought this Ni Bailey match was much

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better than their SmackDown match excuse me, SummerSlam match again.

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My only concern is where does Bailey go from here?

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I feel like she maybe do for a breakof of

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TV for a bit to refresh your character or maybe

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give her one of those refresh runts and antics. Now

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that they are on the CW network and you've got

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some really good talent in the women's division down there,

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the slow build and character development of Tiffany Stratton as

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of laid has been really good. However, I think I

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like the NXT version of Tiffany over this current SmackDown

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version of Tiffy time. I like the leader uh slash,

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don't give a crap about other people Tiffany on NXT

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and not the SmackDown version where she's she's afraid of

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Nia Jackson takes a back seat. It's obviously leading to

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something big as wc's something in Trapp which makes a

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lot of sense, Doctor Trey your thoughts and this one

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is Nijack's retains.

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Yeah, much better than their summer slam match. Uh Naya

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did a hur knrona jeff Or tried like like, I'm

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kind of blown away by that.

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Like that it was one of the craziest things. I like.

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I give her credit for trying, because how didn't know

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that she I thought she was kind of I thought

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she had live with a Domino.

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Where she was kind of afraid of heights.

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But the hell she pulled that, she tried to pull

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it off, so I give her credit for it. Yeah,

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Like this match was fine, Like, but you're right, Like,

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what do you do with Bailey?

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Now?

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Who's the next person to challenge Naya? Because SmackDown kind

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of has a gap in talent. It's similar to the

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stuff with Cody Rose that we've talked about in the past,

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Like who's the next person to step up here? Because

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you've kind of ran through the two top baby faces

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you had in Naomi and Bailey here maybe as as

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an Osca return, but she's might she's on raw, Like

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I just I'm unsure unless you turn Tiffany baby face

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and I'm with you, like, I like, excuse me, I

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like the arrogant cocky I run the show to Tiffany

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better than this one.

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But once again, Nya jacks is huge.

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Who wouldn't be afraid of getting, you know, cornered by

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Nia Jackson getting splashed? Like I'd be a little leery

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of that as well, So I get the character.

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I do just like the NXT version a little bit

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better as well.

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Yeah, it's you bring up a great point, like where

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does ni go from here? Because I feel like, if

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you're going to execute the Tiffany strat and stuff, you're

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doing it now. Obviously there's a little bit of a

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buffer here for Nia Jacks because she is going into

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a match with Live Morgan at Crown Jewel for the

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Crown Jewel Champ Chip, which we'll talk about here in

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just a few moments as well, So there is a

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little bit of a gap that can kind of continue

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to space out, maybe the slow burn of Tiffany Stratton

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becoming a babyface. But if you're not gonna put Naomi

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in that role, Bailey has been that role way too much.

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Bianca and Jade are with the tag team division right now.

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It's it felt like to me with the whole Queen

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of the Ring stuff with Nia Jax, that this is

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gonna be leading to the return of Charlotte Flair. But

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it seems like she that is more of a twenty

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twenty five thing than late twenty twenty four because of

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her injury. It was so extensive and it's gonna take

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a lot of time for her still, but it's it's

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definitely a problem on the SmackDown brand. It's I guess

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the good thing here is They've given themselves some creative

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to build and buffer a little bit, but I don't

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know how that's gonna work out fully yet because liv

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is still really really feuding with Ryad Ripley, while Nia

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Jacks is to be determined as SmackDown airs tomorrow night

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on the Say Network. Next match here is Damien Priest

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defeating Finn Baller. I had Damien, Doctor Trey and Finn.

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I was really happy to see singles wrestler Finn Baller

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on a pl in a big match. I feel like

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he has been a little underutilized from an in ring

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standpoint over the last several months. My biggest takeaway in

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this one is Finn hit his coup de gras finisher

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multiple times, could not put Damian Priest away during any

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of it, and then Damien hits one South of Heaven

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finisher for the victory on Finn, which seemed strange. I

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wonder where there's a feud goes from here heading into

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war Games, Doctor Trey. Your thoughts on this one is

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Damien Priest defeats Finn Balor No.

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I really I enjoyed this match.

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I mean it was a solid It's not really a

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filler match because they had storyline wise, but you know,

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when you look at you know, you got the shark

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cage match, you got the hell in the Cell match,

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you got the big tag match.

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This was just a straight up singles match.

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So it was really good, really kept me on into

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my sche because I didn't where it's going that that finished,

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though within you brought three to Couti graz I will

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say it's one coupdi gras and then two double stumps

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to the back, so maybe technically not three coudi gras.

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I guess that's where they're going with it. But then

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one south of Heaven. I mean typically, I mean, unless

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you're one of the top heels in the company, whether

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you know your Roman or when he was a heel,

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or your Gunther, you know, it takes to multiple finishers

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to put you away when you're kind of the upper

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mid card heel like finn Is. I guess one big

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giant choke slam from a guy who's almost a foot

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taller than you, you know, might make sense. But I

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didn't hate the finish. I just, you know, kind of

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wanted a little bit more out of it. I just

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hate when the one good guy takes out four villain

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or three villains to get the win. Uh, that kind

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of bothers me, just because like typically three on one

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you're gonna get your ass kicked, but overall not a

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bad match. Just I'm just curious to see where this goes,

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because I think they kind of said afterwards that this right,

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like the tear twins are breaking up there in their

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separate ways. So then what do you do with Finn?

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What do you do with Damien? And where do they go?

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So interestly, how this how they play these characters out,

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because I thought this would be multiple matches between these

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guys and looks like it might just be one and done.

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There is ever an opportunity to like move someone to

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another brand, I think, you know, if they were going

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to do a trade, I feel like Damien Priest is

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00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:24.400
a candidate to be moved to SmackDown and be moved

470
00:23:24.480 --> 00:23:26.599
up the chain a little bit more. But maybe that's

471
00:23:26.599 --> 00:23:29.039
a discussion for another day, because yeah, it's like, what

472
00:23:29.079 --> 00:23:30.480
do you do with Damien? What do you do from

473
00:23:30.559 --> 00:23:33.319
Finn going forward? If this is the end of the

474
00:23:33.359 --> 00:23:35.720
few that we've seen build out slowly over like the

475
00:23:35.759 --> 00:23:39.559
last five months. In between here and we'll talk about

476
00:23:39.599 --> 00:23:42.039
it triple h and now it's World Champion versus World

477
00:23:42.119 --> 00:23:44.480
Champion matches for both the men and women at Crown Jewel.

478
00:23:44.839 --> 00:23:47.240
The winner will be crowned the w W Crown Jewel Champion.

479
00:23:47.880 --> 00:23:50.599
And then also Bill Goldberg, who has been in the

480
00:23:50.640 --> 00:23:53.799
news for some time like pooh poohing w because they

481
00:23:53.880 --> 00:23:57.279
never gave him the retirement match that they allegedly promise him,

482
00:23:57.279 --> 00:23:59.359
which I can understand why he felt that way, and

483
00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:02.559
he was in discussions with AW At some point there

484
00:24:02.599 --> 00:24:04.279
was a rumor that he would be going on a

485
00:24:04.359 --> 00:24:06.400
tour like a farewell tour on his own at some

486
00:24:06.480 --> 00:24:09.440
point that didn't come to fruition. He appears to be

487
00:24:09.480 --> 00:24:11.680
back in the w fole talking about legends who were

488
00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:15.160
treated great or better than the last regime, and he

489
00:24:15.200 --> 00:24:18.079
has an interaction with the World have aweight champion. That's sure.

490
00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:20.440
Your thoughts on the announcement for the Crown Jeworld Champion

491
00:24:20.519 --> 00:24:22.359
and then Goldberg and Gunther's interaction.

492
00:24:23.640 --> 00:24:25.759
First of all, did you like the title the way

493
00:24:25.799 --> 00:24:26.200
it looked.

494
00:24:27.000 --> 00:24:29.599
It's a little too much for me, but it makes

495
00:24:29.640 --> 00:24:32.240
sense for them trying to impress Saudi Arabia, if that

496
00:24:32.279 --> 00:24:32.799
makes sense.

497
00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:36.279
It reminds me of the old AWA title, which is

498
00:24:36.359 --> 00:24:38.720
kind of a more squared look like this one is,

499
00:24:38.759 --> 00:24:42.839
but just it's just bigger. It's a little gaudy, I guess,

500
00:24:42.880 --> 00:24:47.640
but we know the Saudi Arabian officials like gaudiness at times,

501
00:24:47.720 --> 00:24:51.759
so it's okay. I just don't know. I don't understand

502
00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:53.920
this whole thing. It's like, we're gonna champion for the champion.

503
00:24:53.960 --> 00:24:57.240
The winner gets this title, do they carry that title

504
00:24:57.279 --> 00:24:59.640
around because by the time this show comes around next year,

505
00:24:59.640 --> 00:25:03.319
for ground Joel Odds are nobody in this match is

506
00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:06.000
going to be the world champion, So do they just

507
00:25:06.119 --> 00:25:08.000
quietly take it away? I mean, is this like when

508
00:25:08.039 --> 00:25:11.440
Braun Strowman won the Greatest Battle or the Greatest Role

509
00:25:11.519 --> 00:25:13.440
Rumble ever and he got a trophy and then we

510
00:25:13.559 --> 00:25:14.640
never saw the trophy again.

511
00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:15.799
I don't know how this works.

512
00:25:16.440 --> 00:25:19.759
So once again, wrestling fan, I need some logic to

513
00:25:19.880 --> 00:25:24.519
come to play here. But I mean, it's I'm glad

514
00:25:24.559 --> 00:25:27.200
to see that we're getting champion versus champion and we're

515
00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:30.359
not getting unified champions out of this at least, so

516
00:25:30.400 --> 00:25:31.119
I'm okay with that.

517
00:25:31.440 --> 00:25:32.240
And then seeing.

518
00:25:31.960 --> 00:25:34.839
Goldberback like I'm cool with it. I like the interaction.

519
00:25:35.319 --> 00:25:37.279
I don't know about you know, but you know, since

520
00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:41.119
Gage plays for Colorado's football team, I kind of want

521
00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:42.240
to see Dion Sanders.

522
00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:43.480
Showup at WWE. Now, I don't know.

523
00:25:43.519 --> 00:25:45.440
I just want to see Primetime out there with Art

524
00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:47.000
Truth doing some stuff.

525
00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:50.960
I think that would be kind of fun. But I

526
00:25:51.039 --> 00:25:51.519
just don't know.

527
00:25:51.559 --> 00:25:54.400
Like the retirement match, like, who, there's nobody left on

528
00:25:54.440 --> 00:25:56.839
this roster that I can go that's the guy he

529
00:25:56.880 --> 00:25:59.920
needs to wrestle, maybe other than John Cena during je

530
00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:01.200
seen as retirement tour.

531
00:26:03.160 --> 00:26:07.000
Yeah, I don't know. I think Gun through Goldberg could

532
00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:09.319
be a match that maybe takes place at Survivor Series.

533
00:26:10.200 --> 00:26:12.160
I could see that. I don't think they're doing that

534
00:26:13.079 --> 00:26:15.160
for no reason at all. I think WWE wants to

535
00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:17.920
make it up to Goldberg and that is a title

536
00:26:18.200 --> 00:26:22.079
or the history of that title that Goldberg helped make famous.

537
00:26:22.680 --> 00:26:24.839
I think the problem with that would be, like, oh God,

538
00:26:24.839 --> 00:26:28.200
if Goldberg becomes the world Champion, we are in deep,

539
00:26:28.200 --> 00:26:32.640
deep trouble. The other thing here too, Doctor Trey is

540
00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:35.079
the crown jewel stuff. This has everything to do with

541
00:26:35.119 --> 00:26:37.839
in pressing Saudi Arabia again to me that the title

542
00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:41.319
the world Champion versus World Champion match. It seems like

543
00:26:41.359 --> 00:26:43.519
this is something that they want to give special to

544
00:26:43.799 --> 00:26:46.880
Saudi Arabian Showcase, Like, hey, you know, this is a

545
00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:49.799
big deal, big partnership to us, and this matches everything

546
00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:52.799
that we believe in when it comes to the glitz

547
00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:56.160
and glamor that comes with Saudi Arabia. So that appears

548
00:26:56.160 --> 00:27:00.799
to me to be very Saudi Arabian based. It's it's

549
00:27:01.000 --> 00:27:03.759
it's an exciting thing to see. We'll see it play out.

550
00:27:04.400 --> 00:27:07.240
World Champion versus World Champion matches are pretty cool. I

551
00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:10.480
liked it to doing it for both both brands, and

552
00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:12.599
we've seen this in the past, like fifteen years ago

553
00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:15.440
when they did like the brand matches. Remember the ECW

554
00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:18.680
versus World Ofweight Champion wee Champion match. I think with

555
00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:20.720
big show Booker t and John Cena, I like that

556
00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:23.400
back then. We'll see how the build goes from here.

557
00:27:23.480 --> 00:27:26.079
So Cody T's that at the end of Raw. We'll

558
00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:28.519
have to see how the women handle that going forward,

559
00:27:28.519 --> 00:27:32.119
because again Live Morgan is fully involved with everything that

560
00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:35.279
is going on between her and Rhea Ripley. Speaking of

561
00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:39.559
Live Morgan, doctor Trey Reed Ripley defeats Live Morgan via disqualification.

562
00:27:39.799 --> 00:27:42.599
Live Morgan remains the WE Women's World Champion due to

563
00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:45.319
the DQ. You and I both had rie in this one.

564
00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:49.119
Some takeaways on this match. Roquel Rodriguez making this say

565
00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:51.880
for Dominic Masterian and Live Morgan was a nice call creatively,

566
00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:54.680
and I like the assumed edition of rock Kel Rodriguez

567
00:27:54.680 --> 00:27:57.640
to the a judgment day. Maybe Roquel helping Live tips

568
00:27:57.640 --> 00:28:01.079
off who is getting the women's Wargames match at Survivors Series. Hmm,

569
00:28:01.240 --> 00:28:03.640
something to think about. I wish this match God a

570
00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:05.200
little bit more time, as it felt like it was

571
00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:08.440
just building up to something good. A dom stunt falling

572
00:28:08.519 --> 00:28:10.319
headfirst out of the shark cage only to be caught

573
00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:13.839
by the chain Legit got me nervous, like almost like

574
00:28:13.880 --> 00:28:16.519
profusely sweat there for a second because I have a

575
00:28:16.599 --> 00:28:20.119
semi fear of heights. It looks like people trash this match,

576
00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:22.160
but Rhea and Live continue to have a really good,

577
00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:24.680
strong feud. I didn't think it was as bad as

578
00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:26.920
the online said. Now, Trey, your thoughts on this one.

579
00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:30.039
I thought the match was really good until the end,

580
00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:33.079
Like I thought from opening all.

581
00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:36.079
The way through it was really good. Once Dom came

582
00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:37.119
out of.

583
00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:39.039
The cage and I'm with you, Like when he fell out,

584
00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:41.279
he's hanging upside down to the chain. I'm like, first

585
00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:44.240
of all, like props to him for being upside I

586
00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:47.000
can't even hang upside down off my bed before I

587
00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:47.799
start getting.

588
00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:48.440
Lightheaded and dizzy.

589
00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:51.640
And here's Dom like up there for a good five

590
00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:55.680
eight minutes upside down. I know he was pulling himself

591
00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:57.680
up to kind of alleviate the pressure at times, but

592
00:28:57.720 --> 00:29:01.680
that is not an easy thing to do. As soon

593
00:29:01.799 --> 00:29:06.359
as they did, the ref spot with Rhea telling him, uh,

594
00:29:06.759 --> 00:29:09.079
I got some unfinished business to do. I didn't like

595
00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:13.119
that because the ref stopped the refting count and I'm like, no, like,

596
00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:14.400
you still do the count.

597
00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:15.720
Did you hear what the ref said?

598
00:29:16.359 --> 00:29:17.359
Yeah? He said go ahead.

599
00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:19.240
Yeah, he was like you've earned that one.

600
00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:22.039
Yeah, Oh come on.

601
00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:25.640
Not with the camera on though, Like, come on, at

602
00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:28.960
least give me a reason why you're not counting. I mean,

603
00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:31.680
like that's you're no longer unbiased at that point, So

604
00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:33.599
that kind of threw me.

605
00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:35.839
Raquel kind of messed up the finish.

606
00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:38.559
I think she was actually because when she came out,

607
00:29:38.599 --> 00:29:40.039
the ref was looking right at it because you saw

608
00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:41.759
the ref as so she came out go oh crap,

609
00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:44.559
and he tried to look away like I didn't see

610
00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:45.480
her do this, but.

611
00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:47.359
He legitimately mouthed, oh crap.

612
00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:50.359
You could see, like because I've seen it in actual

613
00:29:50.400 --> 00:29:53.960
rep like in like over stuff, when you accidentally catch

614
00:29:54.079 --> 00:29:57.960
the bad guy doing something cheating, like you see him

615
00:29:58.000 --> 00:30:00.400
walking back towards the ring and then as soon as

616
00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:04.519
she jumps out, he turns back towards the crowd for

617
00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:08.079
no apparent reason. So I think the finish was actually

618
00:30:08.119 --> 00:30:09.400
supposed to be Live getting the pin.

619
00:30:09.720 --> 00:30:12.319
That's what they're saying. Yes, that was supposed to be

620
00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:13.240
the finish.

621
00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:15.440
Yeah, that's what I was seeing from you know, my

622
00:30:16.599 --> 00:30:19.279
semi expertise eye. But you can see the ref go

623
00:30:19.400 --> 00:30:22.200
oh crap. I wasn't supposed to see her, and because

624
00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:24.920
she literally like bounced into him, you know, and then

625
00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:27.240
he just had to throw the DQ in there. But

626
00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:29.880
the finish kind of messed it all up because you

627
00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:32.720
can see like she did the big the big Tejanobaum

628
00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:35.119
put Live on top, and then you see her just

629
00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:37.359
go crap, the ref's not here, Like you can see

630
00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:39.799
it in her face that she kind of messed it

631
00:30:39.880 --> 00:30:42.279
up as well. But I'm excited to see where it

632
00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:46.880
goes because I like Raquel as a villain, and I

633
00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:48.480
liked it back when she had to code Kai with

634
00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:51.200
her kind of was the mouthpiece. If you put her

635
00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:53.799
with Live Lives the mouthpiece you put it with Judgment Day,

636
00:30:53.880 --> 00:30:56.640
that seems like a better angle than the eck. It

637
00:30:56.680 --> 00:30:59.240
could be another love interest for Dom at some point,

638
00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:01.400
if you want to make a baby face out of this.

639
00:31:02.039 --> 00:31:03.440
So it does add.

640
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:05.240
A little bit more to it, plus to give somebody

641
00:31:05.279 --> 00:31:09.880
for Rhea to fight that measures up physically, because I mean,

642
00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:12.599
I don't know about you, Jeff, Watching Rhian live fight is great,

643
00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:16.799
but when you're watching somebody who's just that much bigger

644
00:31:16.839 --> 00:31:20.240
than the other person, you kind of really really have

645
00:31:20.359 --> 00:31:23.559
to suspend your disbelief at times. But Live plays a

646
00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:26.039
heel really well. But like I said, I like this

647
00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:29.640
match all the way up until that whole referee stuff.

648
00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:32.839
Once the referee stuff happened, it kind of turned into

649
00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:33.799
a little bit of a train wreck.

650
00:31:34.359 --> 00:31:37.519
Yeah. I actually thought watching from home that at no

651
00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:39.640
point I was like, oh God, they screwed up the finish. Obviously,

652
00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:42.039
the reports afterwards you read like that wasn't supposed to

653
00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:44.039
be to finish, I thought wwe did a good job

654
00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:46.799
of covering that up. And one of the things I've

655
00:31:46.839 --> 00:31:50.240
been saying throughout this entire Rehea Live More coanfued is

656
00:31:50.279 --> 00:31:51.839
to your point where it's like you get us suspend

657
00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:53.839
this belief a little bit between the height and all

658
00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:57.000
that stuff in the size, I think they have done

659
00:31:57.000 --> 00:31:59.079
a very good job, as has Rihea Ripley and her

660
00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:02.279
role to that Live Morgan is just as much as

661
00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:04.920
a badass as she is on the same level. While

662
00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:09.359
visually it looks different, and I appreciate that the attention

663
00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:13.640
to the detail that's going on there. Again, I didn't

664
00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:16.680
dislike this match. I think, knowing what I know now,

665
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:20.799
if we recorded the show on Saturday night early Sunday morning,

666
00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:23.599
it's like, let's recap this match, I would have said.

667
00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:25.599
I felt like they cut time out of this one

668
00:32:26.119 --> 00:32:29.519
because of the match that would take place next. I

669
00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:31.160
was like, this is the match that got the acts.

670
00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:33.480
Maybe Helen USL ran a little bit too long, but

671
00:32:33.559 --> 00:32:35.960
coming out where Raquel and the finish was kind of,

672
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:38.319
you know, screwed up in a little bit of a way.

673
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:42.400
It makes sense now why they did what they did,

674
00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:45.640
so I like the pairing of Raquel and Live. I

675
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:48.720
like your thoughts there that you know, later on, maybe

676
00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:51.279
the love interest goes from Live to Raquel. For Dom,

677
00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:53.680
that would be a really good thing for his character.

678
00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:57.519
That would be really fun and interesting. And overall, I

679
00:32:57.519 --> 00:32:59.759
think Raquel in this role is really good, and I

680
00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:02.480
think Live's character should have a character should have someone

681
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:04.640
like that in her background. And I think, and we

682
00:33:04.680 --> 00:33:07.039
always do this from time to time when there's a

683
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:09.799
female bodyguard and a male wrestler, But I could see

684
00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:13.319
Roquel being the China to Dom's Triple H two. So

685
00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:16.720
it's it was good. I didn't dislike it as much

686
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:18.720
as the people online did. I saw it got like

687
00:33:18.759 --> 00:33:21.480
a really bad rating from Cage Match, and it's like, God,

688
00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:24.359
I've seen worse matches in the last year, and I

689
00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:26.839
didn't feel like that was as bad as other ones

690
00:33:26.880 --> 00:33:29.839
I've seen. And then finally the main event here, Doctor Trey,

691
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:34.079
Cody Roads and Roman Reigns defeat Solusico and Jacob fat two.

692
00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:37.119
We both had. I had Cody Roads and Roman Reign

693
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:40.200
Doctor Trey and Solosico and Jacob fot two. This match

694
00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:42.079
struck all the courts. For me, it was good in

695
00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:45.559
reperformance with solid storytelling. The Jimmy User return and the

696
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:49.119
pop he got was awesome. Jimmy convincing Roman help Cody

697
00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:51.559
during this postmatch beat down from the new bloodline was

698
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:54.240
a solid moment, and then the Rock returning was off

699
00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:57.440
the charts. I also liked the post event social media stuff,

700
00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:01.160
including Soloicicoa telling the crowd that Therox return is quote

701
00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:03.839
part of the plan, and Kevin Owens taking out Cody

702
00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:06.799
Rose as he entered his tour bus. Post show was very,

703
00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:10.000
very well done. Everything in WW is really well done

704
00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:14.880
lately and hitting on all cylinders. Doctor Trey, your thoughts

705
00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:15.800
on this one.

706
00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:18.880
Yeah, I mean you hit my thoughts exactly. There wasn't

707
00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:22.599
anything about this match. I disliked the storytelling. The trepidation

708
00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:27.079
at times between Cody and Roman was great. Those moments

709
00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:30.159
of where you see like Solo like ordering Jacob to

710
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:32.880
do something, and I love Corey Grays on commentary basically

711
00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:35.440
you know, just alluding to that, like Jacob's gonna do whatever.

712
00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:39.880
Solo says like there's no you know, there's no tension

713
00:34:39.960 --> 00:34:44.840
in that bloodline. All the Cody dive from the top

714
00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:47.159
rope to splash and giving Roman the.

715
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:49.400
Salute like all right, dude, you got this.

716
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:52.639
I'm out and just diving to take Jacob I thought

717
00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:55.679
was really well done too. Then you know, Jimmy getting

718
00:34:55.719 --> 00:34:57.679
that big pop. I don't know about you, but like

719
00:34:58.119 --> 00:35:00.199
I almost feel bad at times for Jimmy. Hu's so

720
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:04.199
because you know, like Jay's gotten super over, He's the

721
00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:08.039
inner con Neil champion. Jimmy's been kind of I don't

722
00:35:08.039 --> 00:35:10.159
want to say injury prone, but he's had his issues.

723
00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:13.920
He get, you know, dinged up. I mean, Solo passed

724
00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:17.320
him in a sense as well. But that crowd response

725
00:35:17.320 --> 00:35:19.800
when he got that big pop. I felt so happy

726
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:21.920
for him, and then just showing how important he is

727
00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:23.679
the Roman, like he's gonna gonna be kind of the

728
00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:28.000
conscience for Roman as Roman goes down this babyface path again,

729
00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:29.960
you know, getting him to go back in and help

730
00:35:30.039 --> 00:35:35.360
Cody and all that stuff. That was great the Rocks return, Like,

731
00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:38.800
I'm interested to see how this goes because you couldn't

732
00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:41.159
tell who he was sighting with. I mean, you got

733
00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:43.199
the the stuff you know post show with you know,

734
00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:46.119
so the crowd hearing Solo say is all part of

735
00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:48.519
the plan. But if you go back to the beginning

736
00:35:48.559 --> 00:35:52.079
of this, after WrestleMania, Solo kept saying that he was

737
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:55.519
doing stuff for the Tribal Chief, and we know we

738
00:35:55.679 --> 00:35:58.599
always kind of questioned who was he actually referring to,

739
00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:01.079
Was it Roman or was it the Raw. Now that

740
00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:05.239
kind of plays back into it again, so it's a

741
00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:08.840
great dynamic. Maybe we're getting the Ce's planet for the

742
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:11.400
og Blood line against the New bloodline.

743
00:36:11.840 --> 00:36:15.079
So just a really fun way to end the show.

744
00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:17.400
And then the Cody stuff after the show with the

745
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:19.840
beatdown from Kevin Owens. I'm gonna be interesting with how

746
00:36:19.840 --> 00:36:22.679
they played down on SmackDown because they've basically played it

747
00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:26.639
off like it was a legitimate thing. You know, we're

748
00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:30.360
handling this internally, we're not allowed to talk about it.

749
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:35.239
Brandy Rose posting a picture of her, Cody, their daughter,

750
00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:38.119
and Ko at Disneyland. I don't know if you saw that.

751
00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:41.440
That was great because her daughter's just eyeballing Ko like

752
00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:45.360
he's the devil. That was all really fun. So just

753
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:47.800
a really really good way to end Bad Blood.

754
00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:50.000
Yeah, we talked about on last week's show. I mean

755
00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:52.679
Pat McAfee had said after the Cody interview that was

756
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:54.920
picked up on their social media. I heard the Big

757
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:56.880
Guys coming back, and we discussed on the show. It's

758
00:36:56.960 --> 00:37:00.719
like he's either talking about Hayman or The Rock. And

759
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:04.320
as things got closer, it came out to The Rock

760
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:06.480
was going to be going to the high school that

761
00:37:06.519 --> 00:37:09.079
was involved with the school shooting earlier this year to

762
00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:12.599
go watch their football team play, which was like less

763
00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:14.840
than one hundred miles away from in Atlanta, Georgia. It's like,

764
00:37:14.880 --> 00:37:18.079
oh God, so Rock is in town, he's in state,

765
00:37:18.159 --> 00:37:22.119
he's nearby. And as it got closer and closer, it

766
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:25.960
just felt like, Okay, this is The Rock's return, and

767
00:37:26.199 --> 00:37:29.000
this was It was really nice. It was a good

768
00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:33.599
way to end the show. And according to Wressell votes,

769
00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:37.639
this is the potential beginning to the build the Wrestle

770
00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:39.559
eighty forty one Doctor Trey that we saw And maybe

771
00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:40.960
that's part of the reason why this was such a

772
00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:44.960
big deal show is you know Rock countdown like three, two,

773
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:49.880
one and then left and it appears tentative plans right

774
00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:53.159
now always can change, as we know from last year.

775
00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:56.480
Earlier this year, Cody Rhoads versus Roman Reigns versus The

776
00:37:56.559 --> 00:38:00.239
Rock at Wrestlem eighty forty one is potentially on the

777
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:03.840
table right now for a match at RUSS many forty

778
00:38:03.880 --> 00:38:08.199
one in Las Vegas. So overall, great stuff. I mean,

779
00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:13.079
very very very very enjoyable finish of the show, which

780
00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:15.719
is everything with the Bloodline. It's we've got a path

781
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:18.079
now for Cody Rhodes coming out of this one, and

782
00:38:18.119 --> 00:38:21.039
where there's intrigue heading in the SmackDown. I love the

783
00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:27.079
Gorilla creative video. You know that took place. They did

784
00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:30.079
not put out we cameras purposely outside when that angle

785
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:33.039
took place with Ko and Roads. They knew the fans

786
00:38:33.039 --> 00:38:35.159
were gonna take care of it. I'm sure there were

787
00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:37.000
some plants out there just in case they got some

788
00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:41.880
really bad videos. But overall, I mean just completely, very

789
00:38:41.960 --> 00:38:45.679
very well done. So lots of different layers here, Doctor Trey,

790
00:38:46.159 --> 00:38:49.199
You've got the layer of is there wargame implications Jimmy

791
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:52.079
Usso's back. Does Cody get away now from Roman for

792
00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:53.920
a little bit? Does he get away from the Bloodline

793
00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:55.960
for a little bit. Does this lead to a feud

794
00:38:55.960 --> 00:38:58.199
with Ko that carries us the next couple months? Where

795
00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:01.079
does the rock play into this entire thing? A lot

796
00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:04.719
of questions coming out of this one. Good questions, intriguing questions,

797
00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:08.719
entertaining questions, and overall a very good way to finish

798
00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:11.800
the show. So pay p review prediction record I gave it.

799
00:39:11.920 --> 00:39:13.960
I got five and oh Doctor Trey went three and two.

800
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:16.760
I'm one hundred and seventeen thirty on the year one

801
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:19.519
oh six and forty one for Doctor Trey pay per

802
00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:23.800
view event ratings and Match of the night. I gave

803
00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:25.920
Bad Blood a four point one out of five. My

804
00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:27.920
match of the night was CM Punk and Drew McIntyre

805
00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:30.360
Doctor Trey, What say you?

806
00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:33.719
I had it at a four point two, so slightly higher,

807
00:39:33.719 --> 00:39:36.320
and I had CEM Puck and Drew McIntyre as well,

808
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:38.679
like this is you.

809
00:39:38.920 --> 00:39:40.800
You can't really put a show together where you have.

810
00:39:41.320 --> 00:39:46.599
Like a great beginning and a great end, very memorable stuff. Yeah,

811
00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:50.159
maybe the Naya Bailey match wasn't as up to pars,

812
00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:52.079
maybe we hoped, but it was still better than most

813
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:56.159
Naya matches, and Finn and Dami was good. I like

814
00:39:56.280 --> 00:39:59.519
living rheas. So we got five matches and I thought

815
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:03.760
they were all solid. Two fantastic coming out of this one.

816
00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:06.440
There was a lot of discussion throughout the week about

817
00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:08.559
w I think Fightful had a report out there that

818
00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:12.199
ww likes doing the five matches events, that they're taking

819
00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:14.719
the page out of NXC take Over, something that we

820
00:40:14.760 --> 00:40:17.000
have pointed out and noticed here on the show over

821
00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:19.400
the last year or so under the triple A terrain.

822
00:40:20.679 --> 00:40:23.760
It then took another step there where WWE's business model

823
00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:26.840
now for PLA weekends is where they have a big

824
00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:29.840
match on SmackDown and a big match on Raw, or

825
00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:33.440
matches on Raw and SmackDown, which is what we saw

826
00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:37.400
this past week. We're heading into Bad Blood. You had

827
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:40.079
a triple threat ladder match for the tag team titles

828
00:40:40.079 --> 00:40:42.239
with the Bloodline, DIY and Street Profits. That was a

829
00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:46.039
very good match. And on Raw you had Gunther and Sammy,

830
00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:50.480
you had Jay Usso and Xavier Woods. I like this idea,

831
00:40:50.559 --> 00:40:54.599
Doctor Troy. I like that they're lending credence to the

832
00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:57.480
importance of the shows leading into and out of the

833
00:40:57.480 --> 00:41:00.519
pay per view, and I like that pl pay per

834
00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:03.719
view quality matches are taking place on both before the

835
00:41:03.760 --> 00:41:06.599
pl E and after the p l E. It seems

836
00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:08.440
that there are some fans that are up in arms

837
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:11.000
a little bit about this, like this is something new

838
00:41:11.000 --> 00:41:13.559
that WWE has done. Worded. There have been five matches max,

839
00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:15.880
and they've been doing stuff on Friday or SmackDown on

840
00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:19.239
SmackDown and then Monday and Raw. I guess it's a

841
00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:21.079
little bit more concrete. I guess it's the plan that

842
00:41:21.079 --> 00:41:23.840
they're going to be doing moving moving forward. Your thoughts

843
00:41:23.880 --> 00:41:26.280
on the pl E weekend business model now for w A.

844
00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:31.800
Uh Like, I wish there's maybe one more match, like

845
00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:35.000
maybe one or two at times, but you know, the

846
00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:37.639
business models changed and in the old days, you got

847
00:41:38.320 --> 00:41:41.280
the workers got bonuses for working pl E slash pay

848
00:41:41.320 --> 00:41:44.360
per views, and they don't really get that as much anymore.

849
00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:47.960
Uh So, if if you can kind of pack the

850
00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:51.400
whole weekend with having a great match on Friday, come back,

851
00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:54.119
have the ple and then have another big match on Monday,

852
00:41:54.880 --> 00:41:57.400
you're you're kind of getting it all and you're spreading

853
00:41:57.400 --> 00:41:57.719
it out.

854
00:41:57.760 --> 00:42:00.400
And one thing you and I.

855
00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:02.559
Love is when they spread it out and we're not

856
00:42:02.679 --> 00:42:05.199
stuck watching something for five hours. Like if you can

857
00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:08.320
give me some big matches over three days, I'm fine

858
00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:09.920
with that because I can kind of pick and choose

859
00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:13.880
my spots then and I'm not tied to the couch

860
00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:17.960
for an entire afternoon. I mean, we're in college football season, Jeff.

861
00:42:17.960 --> 00:42:19.920
I can't watch college football a day and then go

862
00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:23.639
into a poe right after it. My family will actually

863
00:42:23.719 --> 00:42:24.880
up and leave me at some point.

864
00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:27.199
So I like how it spread out.

865
00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:30.119
I don't hate it as much as maybe I did

866
00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:32.119
early on when they were only doing five matches and

867
00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:35.519
we were getting kind of just solid stuff on Raw

868
00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:37.800
and sotallid stuff on SmackDown. But like now, but that

869
00:42:37.880 --> 00:42:42.320
triple threat match on SmackDown was really good Gunther and like,

870
00:42:42.400 --> 00:42:44.480
not only did you have gun through Sammy and Jane Xavier,

871
00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:47.360
you also had that Donnie Brook with Seamus and Pete Dunne.

872
00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:51.320
I mean that was a fully loaded Raw also with

873
00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:53.400
you know, the CM punk stuff, the seth rawl and

874
00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:57.119
stuff like that was a fully loaded show. So I'm

875
00:42:57.199 --> 00:42:59.519
fine with kind of spreading the wealth around. Plus what

876
00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:03.039
that should is actually also helped increase ratings or increase

877
00:43:03.159 --> 00:43:06.239
viewership to Netflix if you're going to have I mean,

878
00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:09.920
we don't get the world title defended on Raw very

879
00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:14.199
very often over the last ten years. I mean, if

880
00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:17.400
that's a model they're going with, which if you look

881
00:43:17.400 --> 00:43:18.760
at it, we talked about this a couple weeks ago.

882
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:21.559
The Gunther on the pecking order is kind of down

883
00:43:21.639 --> 00:43:25.519
below quite a few guys. It's probably gonna happen a

884
00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:27.440
little bit more often going forward until you get him

885
00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:29.480
up in to where he's the main Evan guy on RAW.

886
00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:32.960
So I like the trajectory there on with this.

887
00:43:33.480 --> 00:43:35.639
It's gonna be interesting in the type of influence this

888
00:43:35.719 --> 00:43:39.360
business model has now on the rest of the industry,

889
00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:42.599
because I think AWS has had a very large influence

890
00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:44.880
and changing the way that we's business model has taken

891
00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:50.039
place with creative in ring stuff. The house shows the schedule,

892
00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:52.920
taking care of the wrestlers, paying them more money whatever,

893
00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:55.880
locking them up long term. There's been a big influence

894
00:43:55.920 --> 00:43:58.280
on AAW. This is going to bleed into a little

895
00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:01.119
bit about what we'll discuss your head in a Wrestle Dream.

896
00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:05.440
But spoiler alert, this may be the least I have

897
00:44:05.559 --> 00:44:08.519
been excited or interested in an AW pay per view

898
00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:12.280
potentially ever in the entire five year existence of the company.

899
00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:16.440
Heading into this Saturday for Wrestle Dream and I find

900
00:44:16.679 --> 00:44:18.599
the AW pay per views, and I know this is

901
00:44:18.599 --> 00:44:22.199
not a popular opinion amongst the hardcorese I find four

902
00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:25.159
hours on a Saturday night or Sunday night of just

903
00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:30.000
NonStop wrestling, great entering stuff, but kind of lacking a

904
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:32.360
little bit of entertainment. Out of the entertainment I'm seeing

905
00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:34.800
from the inn ring to be a bit boring than

906
00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:37.559
what I'm seeing in WE right now. And I think

907
00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:41.320
W has influenced that where I like these shows where

908
00:44:41.599 --> 00:44:44.119
they get in and get out, they get done what

909
00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:45.920
they need to get done from an n ring standpoint,

910
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:47.360
they get done what they need to get done from

911
00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:51.039
an entertaining standpoint, and even though it's five matches, I

912
00:44:51.039 --> 00:44:53.199
feel like I'm getting most banged from my buck and

913
00:44:53.239 --> 00:44:56.400
then heading into those pl weekends, I know that SmackDown

914
00:44:56.400 --> 00:44:58.119
may have one or two great matches on the car

915
00:44:58.199 --> 00:45:00.920
that are very intriguing and interesting for free television, and

916
00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:03.480
I know Raw will have one or two great matches

917
00:45:03.800 --> 00:45:06.519
that will be intriguing coming out of PLS on television

918
00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:12.159
for free aw heading into Dynamite in Collision or in Rampage,

919
00:45:12.239 --> 00:45:15.239
it's heading into those pay per view weekends. It's like

920
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:19.079
almost throwaway shows. Dynamite this past Wednesday was not good,

921
00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:21.559
and we'll break down those viewerships here in a little bit,

922
00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:24.159
and you're heading into the pay per view. I did

923
00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:27.280
not personally enjoy that. So I wonder if there's any

924
00:45:27.320 --> 00:45:31.000
influence here, Doctor Trey where the WWE pay per view

925
00:45:31.039 --> 00:45:34.480
pl model will be reflective in AAW. At some point,

926
00:45:34.519 --> 00:45:36.280
I think AW is gonna be too stubborn. I don't

927
00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:37.880
think they're going to make any changes. I think they're

928
00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:40.599
gonna stick with that four hour mark and ten matches

929
00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:42.760
a card, and whether there is a lot of build

930
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:45.960
or very little build. I don't see AW changing it.

931
00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:47.679
But I like that I'm getting most banged from my

932
00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:51.079
buck from WWE and they're doing less matches than AW

933
00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:51.960
is doing right now.

934
00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:55.840
Yeah, I mean, the one thing we can say about

935
00:45:55.840 --> 00:45:59.559
AAW is they are stubborn as hell at times. Like

936
00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:03.480
they have their model, they run with it, they'll tweak it,

937
00:46:03.559 --> 00:46:06.639
but for the most part, you never see wholesale changes.

938
00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:08.159
I mean, if it gets to a point where we're.

939
00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:11.079
Looking at an AW card it's got five or six

940
00:46:11.159 --> 00:46:13.079
matches and that's all they have for the night, then

941
00:46:13.199 --> 00:46:15.639
you know, then I'll take a little more notice. But

942
00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:19.639
right now, like I just can't see Tony Kahan and

943
00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:22.400
the upper management going, you know what they're doing. We

944
00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:25.079
like that because that's why we get five hour pay

945
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:27.400
per views because they give those guys twenty to thirty

946
00:46:27.440 --> 00:46:29.199
minutes every single match to go work it.

947
00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:31.440
W You didn't do that in the past.

948
00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:33.760
If they had eight matches on the card, you know

949
00:46:33.760 --> 00:46:35.480
they're gonna be there's gonna be a five minute match

950
00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:37.760
in there. There's gonna be something that's kind of a

951
00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:41.840
throwaway now with that NXT model that they did so

952
00:46:41.920 --> 00:46:43.960
successfully in the past, or and the Black and Gold era,

953
00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:48.159
like you're getting fifteen twenty minutes for everybody on the

954
00:46:48.199 --> 00:46:51.119
on the pl I mean, the women aren't getting cut short.

955
00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:52.760
The tag matches, if it's on the pl is not

956
00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:55.920
getting cut short. It gives guys a chance to really

957
00:46:55.920 --> 00:46:57.280
do what they love the best. And I love that

958
00:46:57.320 --> 00:47:00.719
fans are upset about this because the knock WWU has

959
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:04.159
always been oh, they talked too much, there's not enough wrestling.

960
00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:07.480
Now you're getting more wrestling on the plees and people

961
00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:10.599
are still not happy about it. So I guess you

962
00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:12.360
can't please everybody.

963
00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:15.199
So let's get into a doctor trey. This past Tuesday,

964
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:18.960
NXC versus AW head to head. NX did not load

965
00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:20.519
up the box like they did a year ago, where

966
00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:23.519
they had Cody and Cina an undertaker, et cetera, et cetera.

967
00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:25.840
They just had Randy Orton and Saint Louis and that

968
00:47:25.880 --> 00:47:28.920
was to move ticket sales, and that quasi didn't work folks,

969
00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:31.760
because they moved from the arena that RAW was in

970
00:47:31.800 --> 00:47:34.280
the night before into a much smaller arena at the

971
00:47:34.320 --> 00:47:39.119
Factory in Saint Louis. This past Tuesday, AW has their

972
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:42.239
title Tuesday because of the MLB playoffs. Their headlined with

973
00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:45.119
Wheeler You and Brian Danielson the world champion against Claudie

974
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:48.760
Ow and Pac. And this is a headhead matchup and

975
00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:50.360
it's a head to head from the nine to ten

976
00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:52.360
PM hour, I must say as well, So it actually

977
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:55.519
went from eight to ten. AW went from nine to eleven.

978
00:47:55.559 --> 00:47:57.880
And I don't know why they did that. I don't

979
00:47:57.880 --> 00:48:00.039
know if it was because the Baseball playoffs, I'm not

980
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:05.880
necessarily sure. Nonetheless, the viewership came out, So NXT did

981
00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:09.719
eight hundred and seventy four thousand viewers a point two

982
00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:13.920
four rating. AW did three hundred and twenty nine thousand viewers,

983
00:48:13.960 --> 00:48:17.159
a point one zero rating for both eighteen to forty

984
00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:20.719
nine for both NXT and AW. Dave Melt who is

985
00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:26.559
often criticized as a staunch supporter of AW, wrote tweeted quote,

986
00:48:26.639 --> 00:48:29.159
it's very clear at this point aw's audience, unlike two

987
00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:31.239
years ago, is choosing WE, and they have less of

988
00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:36.440
an exclusive audience than before. Doctor Trey. This is this

989
00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:40.000
is very telling. Your thoughts here on the Head to

990
00:48:40.039 --> 00:48:44.599
head were NXT like bitch slapped AW this past Tuesday night.

991
00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:50.199
Yeah, it's it's concerning in a lot of ways, not

992
00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:52.639
only the viewership, but I mean you can see from

993
00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:58.719
from the arena in Spokane, like it just it was

994
00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:01.960
mostly empty and you're looking going you got Darby Allen

995
00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:04.480
and Brian Danson on the show, and those are Washington

996
00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:09.000
State guys, and you couldn't draw a bigger crowd. Like

997
00:49:09.039 --> 00:49:14.360
it's it is noticeably concerning, and like you said, like

998
00:49:14.519 --> 00:49:16.960
WW didn't go out and sell out, Like there's no

999
00:49:17.119 --> 00:49:19.800
undertaker coming out to beat up braun breaker.

1000
00:49:19.880 --> 00:49:21.039
John Sena is not on the building.

1001
00:49:21.280 --> 00:49:24.360
It's literally Randy Orton and Javon Evans, who outside of

1002
00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:30.000
NXT fans, nobody knows who John Evans is. So it's

1003
00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:31.320
it's kind of one of those things where like I

1004
00:49:31.320 --> 00:49:33.719
think even WW kind of went yeah.

1005
00:49:33.559 --> 00:49:35.119
We don't have to sell out for this one.

1006
00:49:35.639 --> 00:49:37.079
We can just go out there and be solid and

1007
00:49:37.119 --> 00:49:38.960
I think we can take them, and they kind of

1008
00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:42.599
prove their points. So it does make you nervous because

1009
00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:44.239
it was like I was. I had a friend of

1010
00:49:44.239 --> 00:49:45.760
the other day asking me about AW. I'm like, the

1011
00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:49.280
thing about it is like, it's a very solid operation.

1012
00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:52.880
It's a very solid show. It's a you know most

1013
00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:56.320
of the time. But there's nothing that's must see right now.

1014
00:49:56.360 --> 00:49:58.000
And I think with WW, you can say, man, I

1015
00:49:58.000 --> 00:49:59.880
got to see what's happening with the Roman and the Bloodline.

1016
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:03.320
I gotta see what's happening with with Drew and cm Punk,

1017
00:50:03.760 --> 00:50:06.159
I gotta see what's happening with Rhea and Live. Like

1018
00:50:06.199 --> 00:50:09.000
there's enough stuff going on that you have to tune

1019
00:50:09.039 --> 00:50:11.920
in to watch. Where with AW right now is like

1020
00:50:12.559 --> 00:50:16.239
maybe the stuff with Moxley and Danielson, But outside of that,

1021
00:50:17.039 --> 00:50:19.880
is there really anything that is, you know, driving people

1022
00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:22.760
back to the TVs or into the arenas that's making

1023
00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:23.679
it a musty show.

1024
00:50:23.840 --> 00:50:25.239
I don't really think there is.

1025
00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:28.719
Yeah, they're having tough tough time selling tickets. It's very

1026
00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:30.519
noticeable on their website. If you out there and take

1027
00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:32.119
a look. There was a couple of markets I looked

1028
00:50:32.119 --> 00:50:34.760
at prior to the show and it's still very readily

1029
00:50:34.800 --> 00:50:36.880
available and it's next month, and these are markets where

1030
00:50:36.880 --> 00:50:39.880
they were selling out. The viewership is very concerning the

1031
00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:42.800
head to head with NXT. Who's very concerning this past

1032
00:50:42.840 --> 00:50:47.039
Wednesday's edition or Tuesday's edition of Dynamite heading into Russell

1033
00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:49.880
Dream again. I mentioned earlier on the show, this is

1034
00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:52.440
the first time for me, Doctor Trey, I could care

1035
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:55.760
less about an AW pay per view this on this Saturday.

1036
00:50:55.840 --> 00:50:58.039
I walked out of that show and I was like,

1037
00:50:58.679 --> 00:51:01.960
what am I excited for? Intrigued to see where Moxley

1038
00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:05.360
and Danielson go because I want to know if this

1039
00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:09.360
leads to Sea McMahon potentially join an AAW. Outside of that,

1040
00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:15.400
Osprey Ta Takeashka, Ricochet, the return of Swerve. I mean,

1041
00:51:17.000 --> 00:51:19.719
it's a lot of stuff that I'm not looking forward to,

1042
00:51:19.760 --> 00:51:23.679
and it's like AW has a problem right now, and

1043
00:51:24.559 --> 00:51:26.679
all things considered, this isn't like me being a w

1044
00:51:26.679 --> 00:51:29.480
W homer, which I'll be criticized for on X or

1045
00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:33.559
on Facebook post show here. I legitimately think NXT is

1046
00:51:33.559 --> 00:51:37.519
better than AW right now. I am finding nxta more

1047
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:40.880
entertaining than watching AW right now. And that's why on

1048
00:51:40.920 --> 00:51:44.800
Tuesday night for me personally, I watched NXT first, AW

1049
00:51:44.920 --> 00:51:47.639
second two three years ago, four years ago when it

1050
00:51:47.679 --> 00:51:50.519
was the Wednesday Night Wars, I was watching AAW first

1051
00:51:50.639 --> 00:51:53.960
NXT second And that's because I could watch NXT also

1052
00:51:54.079 --> 00:51:58.280
on demand on Peacock, but AW was better back then.

1053
00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:02.239
So they've got a problem on their hands. Doctor Treya,

1054
00:52:02.360 --> 00:52:04.280
do you do you feel the same way? Do you

1055
00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:06.639
feel like there's a major problem here? Could you care

1056
00:52:06.760 --> 00:52:08.880
less for wrestle during this Saturday? Where do you stand

1057
00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:09.679
on this entire thing?

1058
00:52:10.360 --> 00:52:12.800
Like I think I'm about where you're at, Like there's

1059
00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:17.519
nothing that to me is must sye like the like

1060
00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:20.519
the closest thing would be Danielson Moxley. And that's just

1061
00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:21.920
because I'm intrigued to see.

1062
00:52:21.760 --> 00:52:22.639
Where it goes.

1063
00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:26.440
I mean because supposedly they you know, Danielon loses his

1064
00:52:26.559 --> 00:52:29.239
last match, or they can put the title back on Boxley.

1065
00:52:29.320 --> 00:52:33.400
Does the shame thing happen? Does Wheeler turn on Danielson?

1066
00:52:33.880 --> 00:52:36.480
Like I am intrigued about that, and then Darby and

1067
00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:39.760
Brody King I'm intrigued by just because I really like

1068
00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:42.400
Brodie King. I think he's very, very underrated, So I'm

1069
00:52:42.719 --> 00:52:45.039
I want to see that match, but really everything else,

1070
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:48.719
like we have the Young Bucks in Private Party kind

1071
00:52:48.719 --> 00:52:50.920
of like it, and when you look at the picture

1072
00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:53.559
of the of the card, it's featured pretty prominently.

1073
00:52:53.559 --> 00:52:55.280
And I'm like, Private.

1074
00:52:54.920 --> 00:52:57.400
Party has been getting their ass kicked for like the

1075
00:52:57.440 --> 00:53:00.559
better part of you know, three years, and all of

1076
00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:03.039
a sudden, now they're in line for a title shot

1077
00:53:03.159 --> 00:53:04.840
just because they kind of asked for one.

1078
00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:07.360
Like some of the stuff just doesn't make sense to me.

1079
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:12.679
So their issue is once again, like there's nothing compelling

1080
00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:16.159
about their show that makes me want to watch other

1081
00:53:16.239 --> 00:53:20.400
than just wrestling action. Like I mean the stuff with

1082
00:53:20.440 --> 00:53:25.079
Osprey and Kyle Fletcher and Takeshka and Don Kallas. That's

1083
00:53:25.119 --> 00:53:27.440
a little interesting, but that's kind of where I kind

1084
00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:29.199
of thought that was going to go at some point.

1085
00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:32.519
But I mean, Jeff, is there anybody on.

1086
00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:34.760
This show that you just go, Man, I have to

1087
00:53:34.840 --> 00:53:38.519
see the entire show for this one guy or this

1088
00:53:38.599 --> 00:53:41.639
one segment. And I just I mean, I know you

1089
00:53:41.679 --> 00:53:44.760
love Aspray. I'm coming around. I'm becoming a bigger, bigger

1090
00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:48.360
will Ospray fan. Every single week but I mean, you

1091
00:53:48.440 --> 00:53:55.239
got no MJF. Jericho's kind of like there's Danielson's still

1092
00:53:55.400 --> 00:53:57.039
not a great by the way.

1093
00:53:57.039 --> 00:53:58.679
I hate his hair. I hate when he does the braids.

1094
00:53:58.679 --> 00:53:59.559
It looks ridiculous.

1095
00:54:01.000 --> 00:54:05.679
But there's just nothing exciting about the show right now

1096
00:54:05.719 --> 00:54:08.079
that makes me go, man, I gotta see what they're

1097
00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:10.400
gonna do. And those guys go out there and damn

1098
00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:14.599
near kill themselves in the ring. It's just the storytelling

1099
00:54:14.760 --> 00:54:17.360
and the stuff that goes on around it is just

1100
00:54:17.679 --> 00:54:20.199
not good right now, and it makes me just go,

1101
00:54:20.639 --> 00:54:23.360
like you where I'm just like, I'll probably check out

1102
00:54:23.400 --> 00:54:25.599
the highlights. I might check out a couple of matches.

1103
00:54:25.639 --> 00:54:28.079
I'm definitely not putting any money down for this show,

1104
00:54:28.760 --> 00:54:32.159
but I mean you don't have I mean, you spend

1105
00:54:32.159 --> 00:54:36.000
all this money on Oca Ocada's not even on the show, seriously, Like,

1106
00:54:36.440 --> 00:54:37.519
come on, guys.

1107
00:54:38.360 --> 00:54:41.599
I will say here so creatively, there's a couple of things,

1108
00:54:41.719 --> 00:54:45.039
and you brought up the Young Bucks private party stuff,

1109
00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:49.519
and I've actually enjoyed the character build a private party

1110
00:54:49.920 --> 00:54:52.760
for the last couple of weeks where the hand gets

1111
00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:57.760
smashed from John Moxley on Isaiah Cassidy and they start

1112
00:54:57.840 --> 00:54:59.599
lining themselves up to try to get back at the

1113
00:54:59.639 --> 00:55:02.400
Young and get back into a match, and they asked

1114
00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:04.559
for the match, they didn't get one. Then they were

1115
00:55:04.559 --> 00:55:07.159
getting victories. They got to win over the Young Bucks

1116
00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:11.320
and Jack Perry when they teamed with Katti or Shabada

1117
00:55:11.320 --> 00:55:14.079
on the previous edition of Dynamite. Then they win the

1118
00:55:14.079 --> 00:55:16.599
triple Threat match on Collision to become the number one contenders.

1119
00:55:16.960 --> 00:55:20.239
Here's the missing point though. Okay, Young Bucks were not

1120
00:55:20.280 --> 00:55:23.039
there on Wednesday, so they did not further that storyline

1121
00:55:23.079 --> 00:55:27.480
outside of a backstage segment with Private Party where they

1122
00:55:27.519 --> 00:55:30.880
cut a promo that pissed me off. Hangman Adam Paige

1123
00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:34.119
versus Jay White any other given time, and I expect

1124
00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:36.679
this on Saturday to be a great match, but that

1125
00:55:36.880 --> 00:55:39.960
deserves a great bill. Jay White comes back, he takes

1126
00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:44.119
out Hangman Paige who's attacking Juice Robinson. You figure Hangman

1127
00:55:44.239 --> 00:55:47.719
Page and Jay White will further this thing on Wednesday's Dynamite. Nope,

1128
00:55:48.079 --> 00:55:51.599
Jay White just cuts a Babyface promo for quasi Babyface

1129
00:55:51.639 --> 00:55:56.280
promo and that's that. It's like, what are we doing here?

1130
00:55:56.320 --> 00:55:58.199
And you mentioned Okada. I didn't even think about it.

1131
00:55:58.239 --> 00:56:02.239
Okata is not on the card for Wressel Dream. The

1132
00:56:02.320 --> 00:56:05.639
show is called Wressel Dream, right well, who is a

1133
00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:10.159
dream wrestler right now? Kazushka Okada, He's off the card.

1134
00:56:10.599 --> 00:56:14.039
I would have preferred that it was Ricochet versus Osprey

1135
00:56:14.000 --> 00:56:15.800
at this match, and they didn't do it at the

1136
00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:19.679
five Year Dynamite show. I would have preferred one on

1137
00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:23.599
one there. Then Kenoski Takeshka being randomly thrown into this one,

1138
00:56:23.599 --> 00:56:25.800
and there's been some good character arc with that. But

1139
00:56:25.920 --> 00:56:28.320
the build has just been met, and this is what

1140
00:56:28.360 --> 00:56:30.519
we've been saying. People are saying it as well. Again,

1141
00:56:30.599 --> 00:56:33.639
I will say that AW had a really rough time

1142
00:56:33.719 --> 00:56:37.760
until AW Revolution back in March. From AW Revolution to

1143
00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:41.519
about all Out, I felt like creatively entering wise and

1144
00:56:41.519 --> 00:56:45.440
as a company, they were starting to climb upwards again.

1145
00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:48.280
They were sending the ladder where I wanted to see

1146
00:56:48.280 --> 00:56:51.039
them as a fan of the business. Ever since all Out,

1147
00:56:51.119 --> 00:56:53.480
it's like, I don't know if a lot of different

1148
00:56:53.519 --> 00:56:57.519
stars align where Mjoff is off television because he's filming

1149
00:56:57.599 --> 00:57:01.199
right now. He's involved with the Happy Gilmore sequel and

1150
00:57:01.239 --> 00:57:03.760
he has a major role in that movie. Swerve Strickling

1151
00:57:03.840 --> 00:57:05.800
was rumored to be doing something in television. That's why

1152
00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:07.800
he's been off television in the last couple of weeks.

1153
00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:10.599
It's like, you know, Adam Copeland is still out with injury,

1154
00:57:11.000 --> 00:57:14.559
FTR is dealing with stuff at home from Helene, but

1155
00:57:14.599 --> 00:57:17.119
they haven't really been featured as much as they used

1156
00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:19.679
to be prior to all this. The Outrunners are really

1157
00:57:19.679 --> 00:57:22.920
climbing upwards and ascending, similar to the Acclaim did several

1158
00:57:23.000 --> 00:57:25.039
years ago, and they're not on the paper view card

1159
00:57:25.079 --> 00:57:27.679
to capitalize on that. It's like a bunch of things

1160
00:57:28.159 --> 00:57:31.039
that is just mind boggling. And as I watched Dynamite

1161
00:57:31.079 --> 00:57:35.440
Doctor Trey, all I could think of was again, and

1162
00:57:35.480 --> 00:57:38.480
I hate saying this, but I will if we didn't

1163
00:57:38.519 --> 00:57:41.639
do a podcast, I think I would stop watching AW

1164
00:57:42.000 --> 00:57:44.119
I legitimately thought that there would be the topic on

1165
00:57:44.159 --> 00:57:45.840
this show, and maybe there isn't a couple of weeks.

1166
00:57:45.880 --> 00:57:48.920
If this continues onwards, where how is this any different

1167
00:57:48.920 --> 00:57:50.880
from TNA in two thousand and nine, twenty ten when

1168
00:57:50.880 --> 00:57:53.199
we started this podcast and we decided this is just

1169
00:57:53.239 --> 00:57:55.840
so bad I can't watch it anymore. I mean, imagine

1170
00:57:55.880 --> 00:57:59.760
if you remove Dynamite Rampagent Collision from your viewing, you know,

1171
00:58:00.360 --> 00:58:02.840
that you do for professional wrestling. That's five hours each week,

1172
00:58:02.840 --> 00:58:05.000
and I just watch clips on YouTube like everybody else,

1173
00:58:05.440 --> 00:58:07.320
and it's like I can get five hours back of

1174
00:58:07.360 --> 00:58:08.800
my life and we don't cover it as much on

1175
00:58:08.840 --> 00:58:12.360
the show. Do we become a strictly WWE type podcast.

1176
00:58:12.719 --> 00:58:15.159
These are things that I've legitimately thought about in my

1177
00:58:15.239 --> 00:58:18.280
head because I was so damn disappointed with Tuesday's edition

1178
00:58:18.320 --> 00:58:20.920
in Dynamite. I thought it was missed opportunities. I think

1179
00:58:20.960 --> 00:58:24.719
it's been a very poor build overall with there are

1180
00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:27.239
some hits, a lot of misses. Heading in a wrestl

1181
00:58:27.280 --> 00:58:30.360
tream on Saturday. If I was someone that staunchly reported

1182
00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:33.840
AW and I bought every pay per view and I

1183
00:58:33.880 --> 00:58:35.639
tune in all the time, It's like, why the hell

1184
00:58:35.679 --> 00:58:37.920
would I spend fifty plus bus bucks on the show

1185
00:58:37.960 --> 00:58:40.920
other than the sport AW. I mean, there's very little

1186
00:58:40.960 --> 00:58:43.000
on this card that we will run through here momentarily

1187
00:58:43.000 --> 00:58:46.000
where I'm like, oh, I've been really happy with this build.

1188
00:58:46.000 --> 00:58:48.559
I can't wait to see the match on Saturday. Very

1189
00:58:48.599 --> 00:58:51.440
little and it's like AW continues to shoot themselves in

1190
00:58:51.440 --> 00:58:54.119
the foot. I see the viewership come out NXT versus

1191
00:58:54.199 --> 00:58:56.920
AW on Tuesday, and it was a complete bitch slap.

1192
00:58:57.039 --> 00:58:59.400
It was not seven hundred and fifty thousand with AW

1193
00:58:59.639 --> 00:59:01.880
six and fifty thousands of the NXT. It was a

1194
00:59:01.880 --> 00:59:06.280
five hundred thousand plus difference in both. I mean, mind Boline,

1195
00:59:06.280 --> 00:59:08.440
I know they did not both start at the same time,

1196
00:59:08.880 --> 00:59:10.920
but I thought that was very, very shocking and should

1197
00:59:10.960 --> 00:59:12.639
we talked about a lot more than it is right now?

1198
00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:16.400
Yeah, I mean, to me, the one thing AW has

1199
00:59:16.440 --> 00:59:18.440
had a hard time with through the five years is

1200
00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:24.679
when somebody organically gets over or somebody gets hot, they

1201
00:59:24.719 --> 00:59:26.400
stop it way too short.

1202
00:59:26.480 --> 00:59:27.320
And that's one thing.

1203
00:59:28.119 --> 00:59:30.639
And I know what the documentary and everything else, everybody

1204
00:59:30.639 --> 00:59:32.639
goes on this anti vinceling, But the one thing Vince

1205
00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:36.280
Is always did and Triple H has been successful with

1206
00:59:36.320 --> 00:59:39.880
as well, is when somebody gets hot or gets over organically,

1207
00:59:39.960 --> 00:59:43.039
we feature the hell out of them because there's something

1208
00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:46.199
there we have to capitalize on. And when you have

1209
00:59:46.280 --> 00:59:48.920
somebody like the outrunners or whether it was the acclaimed

1210
00:59:49.360 --> 00:59:51.639
last year or somebody else just gets hot and the

1211
00:59:51.719 --> 00:59:54.840
crowd really gets into them, why the hell are they

1212
00:59:54.840 --> 00:59:58.679
not on the show, like, you have to capitalize on that.

1213
00:59:58.840 --> 01:00:01.880
I mean, you you go back two months ago to

1214
01:00:01.880 --> 01:00:04.440
the like Darby and Jack Perry with the coffin match

1215
01:00:04.480 --> 01:00:06.480
and Darby's one of the hottest guys in your company

1216
01:00:06.920 --> 01:00:11.800
and he loses in his specialty match basically clean, Like,

1217
01:00:11.880 --> 01:00:14.079
I just don't get it. It's like they kind of

1218
01:00:14.599 --> 01:00:18.559
it's very clickish and how they book their show where

1219
01:00:18.599 --> 01:00:20.760
it's like, yeah, certain guys that are kind of the

1220
01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:23.239
favorites are always going to get and you know, Crowby,

1221
01:00:23.280 --> 01:00:26.719
dam it's a little bit that Vince stubbornness that you

1222
01:00:26.760 --> 01:00:29.280
and I have talked about for damn near a decade

1223
01:00:29.840 --> 01:00:32.519
kind of coming out in aw and Tony Con where

1224
01:00:32.519 --> 01:00:35.039
it's like, yeah, if you're not part of the inner

1225
01:00:35.079 --> 01:00:38.719
circle quote unquote, yeah, you may not be seen, you

1226
01:00:38.760 --> 01:00:40.639
may not be featured, you may not get over it.

1227
01:00:40.679 --> 01:00:43.960
If you don't get over because of us, if you

1228
01:00:43.960 --> 01:00:46.280
get over on your own and not with us, then yeah,

1229
01:00:46.360 --> 01:00:49.000
you might not be seen anyway. So it's just it's

1230
01:00:49.480 --> 01:00:51.760
doesn't make sense to me. And then it is a

1231
01:00:51.800 --> 01:00:53.760
little bit bad timing. Somebody gets hot, somebody has a

1232
01:00:53.800 --> 01:00:56.599
great match, and then they have another commitment that they

1233
01:00:56.599 --> 01:01:00.519
have to take, which boggles my mind as well, Like,

1234
01:01:00.519 --> 01:01:03.039
like I know MJFS wanted to dip his toes into

1235
01:01:03.079 --> 01:01:05.760
the Hollywood stuff, but you got to swerve coming out

1236
01:01:05.800 --> 01:01:09.239
this great angle with Hangman Page and you know he's

1237
01:01:09.239 --> 01:01:10.199
gonna go off and do something.

1238
01:01:10.199 --> 01:01:11.840
It's like, where are your priorities?

1239
01:01:11.880 --> 01:01:15.920
I mean, Ww's always like, hey, your priorities to the company.

1240
01:01:16.079 --> 01:01:18.320
If there's something else going on, we can work around it. Great,

1241
01:01:18.360 --> 01:01:22.599
will work around it. But your priority is us. And

1242
01:01:22.679 --> 01:01:25.039
I think that aw is almost too nice in that

1243
01:01:25.079 --> 01:01:27.760
where it's like somebody's hot, he gets it offered to

1244
01:01:27.840 --> 01:01:30.119
do TV. Oh yeah, well yeah, you're hot right now.

1245
01:01:30.159 --> 01:01:32.000
Everybody wants to see you. Yeah, I go take six

1246
01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:34.119
weeks off, out of sight, out of mind.

1247
01:01:34.480 --> 01:01:35.159
People forget.

1248
01:01:35.320 --> 01:01:38.800
So it just that they've had a knack of doing

1249
01:01:38.840 --> 01:01:42.159
that for their entire history in this show or of

1250
01:01:42.199 --> 01:01:45.519
their show. Is some again is hot, They get featured,

1251
01:01:45.599 --> 01:01:47.119
and then all of a sudden they're just gone, and

1252
01:01:47.159 --> 01:01:48.280
people kind of forget about it.

1253
01:01:48.760 --> 01:01:50.440
I know they've got the big deal one hundred and

1254
01:01:50.480 --> 01:01:52.519
eighty five million each year for the next three to

1255
01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:56.800
four years and a Warner Brothers Discovery. That's great, very

1256
01:01:56.880 --> 01:02:00.480
very talented roster. I enjoy the work that they do.

1257
01:02:00.719 --> 01:02:03.519
I've really liked that they've pushed the envelope in the

1258
01:02:03.559 --> 01:02:06.119
world of professional wrestling, but the gap is getting wider

1259
01:02:06.159 --> 01:02:08.599
between them and w WAE right now, and they need

1260
01:02:08.639 --> 01:02:12.719
to do stuff now to close that gap again. Because

1261
01:02:12.760 --> 01:02:16.599
they were knocking on the doorstep of just strictly me

1262
01:02:16.760 --> 01:02:19.760
wanting to watch AW over we several years ago, and

1263
01:02:19.800 --> 01:02:23.400
it's like ever since then, all out twenty twenty one,

1264
01:02:23.440 --> 01:02:28.480
it's it's been very much a slow downturn for AW.

1265
01:02:28.679 --> 01:02:30.719
It really reminds me a lot of TENA Doctor Trey.

1266
01:02:31.119 --> 01:02:34.320
I watched them in and out from like two thousand

1267
01:02:34.320 --> 01:02:36.760
and two when they launched till about the Monday Night

1268
01:02:36.760 --> 01:02:39.039
Wars when we started doing this podcast, and then I

1269
01:02:39.159 --> 01:02:42.400
never really returned outside the pandemic. I would tune in

1270
01:02:42.440 --> 01:02:44.400
and I would watch them on a regular basis when

1271
01:02:44.400 --> 01:02:47.960
they were back as Impact Wrestling, I'll watch them from

1272
01:02:48.039 --> 01:02:50.400
far and check out some stuff on YouTube. But I

1273
01:02:50.440 --> 01:02:52.639
feel like that could be the direction it's going for

1274
01:02:52.679 --> 01:02:55.960
me as a fan, where I mean, it's just reminiscent

1275
01:02:56.079 --> 01:02:57.800
to me in my mind of like two and nine

1276
01:02:57.800 --> 01:03:01.239
twenty ten TNA, where it's like this is the beginning

1277
01:03:01.280 --> 01:03:03.400
of the end of their popularity, and I don't want

1278
01:03:03.400 --> 01:03:05.280
that to be true, but I'm just like sick and

1279
01:03:05.320 --> 01:03:08.039
tired of the last three years of this stop start.

1280
01:03:08.239 --> 01:03:11.719
You know, good stretches are creative. Really bad stretches are creative,

1281
01:03:12.119 --> 01:03:16.199
no character build, no character development, great entering stuff, but

1282
01:03:16.519 --> 01:03:19.599
like potentially boring at the end of the night. And

1283
01:03:20.079 --> 01:03:21.519
that's kind of where I'm at right now. Not true.

1284
01:03:21.559 --> 01:03:25.199
I think AW is a major problem, and I think

1285
01:03:25.360 --> 01:03:27.519
doing this podcast kind of saves them for me. I

1286
01:03:27.519 --> 01:03:29.679
don't know if you're there yet, but that's that's how

1287
01:03:29.719 --> 01:03:30.159
I feel.

1288
01:03:30.800 --> 01:03:32.760
I mean, if you look at the five year run,

1289
01:03:32.920 --> 01:03:36.599
it's reminiscent of TNA from two thousand and six to

1290
01:03:36.599 --> 01:03:40.719
twenty eleven, where it was really cool at first, people

1291
01:03:40.719 --> 01:03:43.519
were checking it out, people were tuning in. They try

1292
01:03:43.559 --> 01:03:45.239
to go bigger, they try to do something else, and

1293
01:03:45.239 --> 01:03:49.400
then stuff goes sideways. It's reminiscent of WCW from about

1294
01:03:49.519 --> 01:03:51.800
ninety six to about two.

1295
01:03:51.719 --> 01:03:52.400
Thousand and one.

1296
01:03:53.079 --> 01:03:55.519
You know, the launch of the nWo, all the excitement,

1297
01:03:55.599 --> 01:03:57.800
all the craziness, all these new stars coming up, and

1298
01:03:57.800 --> 01:04:01.000
then by the end the inmates are the inmates are

1299
01:04:01.039 --> 01:04:03.480
running the asylum, and stuff's gone off the rails and

1300
01:04:03.480 --> 01:04:06.880
we're getting the Magnificent Seven and all the other presents.

1301
01:04:06.360 --> 01:04:07.519
That went on New Blood.

1302
01:04:07.559 --> 01:04:11.159
It's just yeah, I mean, it's just sometimes like you know,

1303
01:04:11.239 --> 01:04:13.199
it's it's the common thing that we have said for

1304
01:04:13.280 --> 01:04:16.880
five years is that Tony Kahn's a really nice guy

1305
01:04:17.880 --> 01:04:20.039
and he wants to be friends with everybody.

1306
01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:22.239
But sometimes you have to be an.

1307
01:04:22.119 --> 01:04:24.800
A hole when you're in charge and go, look there,

1308
01:04:25.079 --> 01:04:27.199
there's a system, there's a way that things work.

1309
01:04:27.239 --> 01:04:29.400
There's and there's enough guys that.

1310
01:04:29.320 --> 01:04:33.280
Have crossed over from WWE into AW that knows the

1311
01:04:33.320 --> 01:04:36.679
formula and knows the system and knows how stuff should

1312
01:04:36.679 --> 01:04:40.800
be structured to where this stuff should make more sense

1313
01:04:40.880 --> 01:04:43.880
and put on better television. I think they forget that

1314
01:04:43.920 --> 01:04:47.840
they're a television show. There's I mean, my common complaint

1315
01:04:47.840 --> 01:04:49.800
for five years has been like, leave me with a

1316
01:04:49.840 --> 01:04:52.480
cliffhanger at the end of the show where I have

1317
01:04:52.559 --> 01:04:54.880
to tune in the next week to see what happens.

1318
01:04:55.400 --> 01:04:58.760
And they have very seldom done that.

1319
01:04:59.639 --> 01:05:01.960
And when and they have done it, they've blown the

1320
01:05:02.039 --> 01:05:04.440
angle up like within a couple of weeks. I'm talking

1321
01:05:04.480 --> 01:05:06.920
like the firm, you know, we talked about it last

1322
01:05:06.920 --> 01:05:09.639
week's show, just in passing. I'm like they come up

1323
01:05:09.639 --> 01:05:11.440
with a cool angle and you're like, oh, this is great,

1324
01:05:11.559 --> 01:05:13.880
and then either they blow the angle up or somebody

1325
01:05:13.880 --> 01:05:15.760
gets hurt because they do too much in the ring,

1326
01:05:16.360 --> 01:05:18.599
and then they're out for a year and the whole

1327
01:05:18.639 --> 01:05:19.679
angle just goes away.

1328
01:05:20.079 --> 01:05:22.639
It's really frustrating at times when.

1329
01:05:22.519 --> 01:05:25.239
You try to go, look, I'm giving you guys every

1330
01:05:25.280 --> 01:05:27.880
opportunity to win me over and make me a die

1331
01:05:27.960 --> 01:05:32.159
hard fan, and right now I'm just on the peripheral

1332
01:05:32.239 --> 01:05:33.599
checking out YouTube clips.

1333
01:05:33.840 --> 01:05:37.920
Yeah, I'm right there. It's it's an interesting time, so

1334
01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:42.000
let's get into it. AW Russell Dream Prever predictions this

1335
01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:44.719
Saturday for the Tacoma Dome and Tacoma Washington. Hopefully it

1336
01:05:44.760 --> 01:05:46.880
turns itself around as being a solid card. I hope

1337
01:05:46.920 --> 01:05:49.880
when we get back here next Thursday. People that are like,

1338
01:05:49.920 --> 01:05:51.920
you guys are being too harsh on AW. Doc Train

1339
01:05:51.920 --> 01:05:53.519
and I sit here and we're like, yeah, we didn't

1340
01:05:53.559 --> 01:05:55.360
enjoy the build, but that was a four point zero

1341
01:05:55.360 --> 01:05:58.199
plus show and that's very well possible because they have

1342
01:05:58.239 --> 01:06:00.920
the n ring talent to do it. Heading into this one,

1343
01:06:00.920 --> 01:06:03.679
it's like, man, this is a very out of character

1344
01:06:03.719 --> 01:06:06.159
build for AW, which is concerning because they should be

1345
01:06:06.280 --> 01:06:09.760
capitalizing right now, not falling backwards when w w W

1346
01:06:09.920 --> 01:06:12.679
is hitting stuff out of the park. First match here,

1347
01:06:12.800 --> 01:06:16.159
case of point, Doctor Trey Atlantis Junior defends the ROH

1348
01:06:16.239 --> 01:06:19.760
World Television Championship against Brian Cage. I have no idea

1349
01:06:19.960 --> 01:06:22.119
how they got to this point. I don't watch r OH.

1350
01:06:22.360 --> 01:06:24.760
It's on the card. I'm gonna take it. Atlantis Junior.

1351
01:06:26.519 --> 01:06:30.239
Yeah, I just learned this week that Brian Cage portrayed

1352
01:06:30.320 --> 01:06:33.159
Mortis in WWE briefly in some dark matches.

1353
01:06:33.239 --> 01:06:34.880
I did not know that, really.

1354
01:06:34.920 --> 01:06:37.639
I thought that was I thought that was Chris Kanyon.

1355
01:06:38.280 --> 01:06:38.440
No.

1356
01:06:38.599 --> 01:06:41.239
I actually saw him posts on his Facebook page. He

1357
01:06:41.239 --> 01:06:46.840
actually posted that Canyon Lent gave him the Mortis outfit, uh,

1358
01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:49.840
to kind of carry on the Mortis Mortis legacy when

1359
01:06:49.840 --> 01:06:53.199
he was doing the MVP stuff. So, uh, yeah, I

1360
01:06:53.480 --> 01:06:56.159
did not know. I'll send you. I'll screenshot and send

1361
01:06:56.159 --> 01:06:59.599
it to you this week. But yeah, I didn't know

1362
01:07:00.079 --> 01:07:01.639
Lantis Junior was the Ring of Honors.

1363
01:07:01.639 --> 01:07:02.320
I wasn't champion.

1364
01:07:02.440 --> 01:07:06.119
I thought Atlantis Junior was a small casino in Erna, Nevada.

1365
01:07:07.320 --> 01:07:09.760
But I'll take him to win because Brian Cage doesn't

1366
01:07:09.800 --> 01:07:11.960
win titles in AAW, so I'll take it.

1367
01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:12.719
Atlantis Junior.

1368
01:07:14.000 --> 01:07:17.000
Next match here is Hologram taking on the Beast Mortos

1369
01:07:17.039 --> 01:07:19.480
in a two out of three falls match. They're really

1370
01:07:19.480 --> 01:07:22.119
pushing Hologram doctor Trem. I'm going to take Hologram.

1371
01:07:22.559 --> 01:07:24.719
Yeah, And they were really pushing Mortos a month ago,

1372
01:07:24.920 --> 01:07:29.239
and then he's now in L I J L I G.

1373
01:07:29.519 --> 01:07:30.480
I don't know who it is now.

1374
01:07:31.599 --> 01:07:33.639
I'm taking Hologram because I think this way, he actually

1375
01:07:33.679 --> 01:07:37.639
gets a loss, so that way, he's technically not undefeated

1376
01:07:37.639 --> 01:07:39.840
because he gets pinned at one point, but I think

1377
01:07:39.880 --> 01:07:41.559
he wins the match two out of three, So I'll

1378
01:07:41.559 --> 01:07:42.559
take Hologram as well.

1379
01:07:42.960 --> 01:07:45.239
Yeah. And by the way, talking about on last week's

1380
01:07:45.239 --> 01:07:48.920
show with Don Kallis and l I J, they did

1381
01:07:48.920 --> 01:07:54.639
a trade with Lance Archer going to Don Kallis's family

1382
01:07:54.719 --> 01:07:56.840
and of course the guy that you would think of,

1383
01:07:57.719 --> 01:08:01.039
Jake Roberts now being the man for L I J.

1384
01:08:01.400 --> 01:08:03.280
Going forward. Jake Roberts, who I have not seen on

1385
01:08:03.320 --> 01:08:08.400
AW television maybe a year, is back as manager MXM Collection,

1386
01:08:08.440 --> 01:08:10.360
who I do enjoy, and they are taking on the

1387
01:08:10.360 --> 01:08:13.760
Acclaim and a tag team match. I really want to

1388
01:08:13.800 --> 01:08:16.119
pick MXM Collection, but I'm going to take the Acclaimed

1389
01:08:16.119 --> 01:08:16.680
in this one.

1390
01:08:17.239 --> 01:08:18.520
Yeah, I totally agree with you.

1391
01:08:18.520 --> 01:08:20.399
I really want to pick MXM, but I'm taking the

1392
01:08:20.399 --> 01:08:21.199
Acclaimed as well.

1393
01:08:21.680 --> 01:08:24.039
Hangman Out Page takes on Jay White. I'm going to

1394
01:08:24.119 --> 01:08:25.399
take hang Man Out in Paige.

1395
01:08:26.199 --> 01:08:26.920
Yeah, I'm with you.

1396
01:08:26.960 --> 01:08:29.000
I'm taking a hanging Man as well as and that

1397
01:08:29.119 --> 01:08:31.640
was a Jay's promo on Dynamo is actually really good,

1398
01:08:31.640 --> 01:08:33.039
but I'm taking a Hangman as well.

1399
01:08:33.600 --> 01:08:37.319
Maria May defends the AW Women's World champions against Willow Nightingale.

1400
01:08:37.439 --> 01:08:38.520
I will take Mariah May.

1401
01:08:39.920 --> 01:08:41.560
I don't know how many of these were gonna disagree

1402
01:08:41.560 --> 01:08:42.600
on because I'm with you on this one as well.

1403
01:08:42.640 --> 01:08:43.920
I'm taking Mariah May getting the win.

1404
01:08:44.199 --> 01:08:45.840
That's part of the reason when I was like building

1405
01:08:45.840 --> 01:08:47.319
this card out for the show, I was like, man,

1406
01:08:47.359 --> 01:08:50.319
I don't see many title changes here. The Young Bucks

1407
01:08:50.359 --> 01:08:52.920
defend the AW World Tag Team Champion against a Private Party.

1408
01:08:52.920 --> 01:08:54.680
I would love to pick Private Party, but I'm going

1409
01:08:54.720 --> 01:08:55.920
to go with the Young Bucks.

1410
01:08:56.640 --> 01:08:57.960
I'm taking the Young Bucks as well.

1411
01:08:59.039 --> 01:09:03.000
Will Osprey to the AW International Championship against Rikoshet. Knoski

1412
01:09:03.079 --> 01:09:05.199
Takeshka in a three way match. Who do you like

1413
01:09:05.279 --> 01:09:05.840
this one? Doctor?

1414
01:09:05.880 --> 01:09:09.000
Try this This is the one where I was like,

1415
01:09:09.119 --> 01:09:11.399
I don't know where I'm going with those one because

1416
01:09:11.439 --> 01:09:16.960
I could make a case for Takeshka, but uh man,

1417
01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:18.960
I think I'm gonna take Ospray retaining. I just think

1418
01:09:18.960 --> 01:09:20.399
he's on a hot streak, so I think you gotta

1419
01:09:20.479 --> 01:09:22.199
run with it for now. So I'm taking Ospray's on

1420
01:09:22.359 --> 01:09:22.840
this one.

1421
01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:26.039
I'm gonna take Osprey as well. Jack Perry defends the

1422
01:09:26.079 --> 01:09:28.920
AWT and T Championship against Katti or Shabata, Doctor Tree,

1423
01:09:28.920 --> 01:09:29.880
who do you liking this one?

1424
01:09:30.600 --> 01:09:32.800
I'm going with a scapegoat because when you have a

1425
01:09:32.840 --> 01:09:35.119
goat that headbutts against the Japanese minute head.

1426
01:09:35.119 --> 01:09:36.039
But you picked the animal.

1427
01:09:36.399 --> 01:09:39.039
I'm going to take Jack Perry as well. Darby Allen

1428
01:09:39.159 --> 01:09:41.960
take it on, brody Kin. I'm gonna go with Darby Allen.

1429
01:09:42.760 --> 01:09:44.239
As much as I want to pick Brody King.

1430
01:09:44.239 --> 01:09:47.079
I'm picking Darby because Darby needs a win because he

1431
01:09:47.159 --> 01:09:49.039
got beat by Jack Perry and then got beat by

1432
01:09:49.079 --> 01:09:50.560
John Moxley, so Darby needs a win.

1433
01:09:51.199 --> 01:09:53.479
This is the next two matches, the one I'm having

1434
01:09:53.479 --> 01:09:55.680
trouble with. You got Mark Briskett defend the ROH World

1435
01:09:55.760 --> 01:09:58.319
Championship against Chris Jericho. Who do you like this one? Doctor? Try?

1436
01:10:00.800 --> 01:10:04.800
This one's tough because I think Joe Samo. Joe might

1437
01:10:04.840 --> 01:10:09.000
have gotten done filming Twisted Metal, so I can see

1438
01:10:09.079 --> 01:10:12.000
Joe coming out to help Briscoe win. I think I'm

1439
01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:14.960
gonna take Jericho regaining the ROH title of making him

1440
01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:16.479
the what comes after?

1441
01:10:16.640 --> 01:10:19.079
Ohow he said the Nueva. He actually said that in

1442
01:10:19.119 --> 01:10:19.560
a promo.

1443
01:10:20.199 --> 01:10:22.600
I missed the promo because God knows, I don't watch

1444
01:10:22.600 --> 01:10:25.560
all his promos, so I can see Jericho becoming the Nueva.

1445
01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:27.199
So I'll take Jericho.

1446
01:10:27.520 --> 01:10:29.279
I'm gonna go with Jericho as well, because I think

1447
01:10:29.319 --> 01:10:31.439
they want to have another ROA show towards the end

1448
01:10:31.439 --> 01:10:32.880
of the year, and they gotta put some butts in

1449
01:10:32.880 --> 01:10:35.520
the seat. And then finally, this is a tough one,

1450
01:10:35.520 --> 01:10:39.159
Doctor Trey. Brian Danielson defends the AW World Championship against

1451
01:10:39.239 --> 01:10:43.000
John Moxley. I'm gonna pick John Moxley this one. I

1452
01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:46.640
think wheelder you to turns and Danielson goes away now

1453
01:10:46.680 --> 01:10:49.600
for a little bit. I don't think you've done. You

1454
01:10:49.720 --> 01:10:52.359
do this six to eight week build with John Moxley

1455
01:10:52.880 --> 01:10:56.239
being a major focal point for your AW television, only

1456
01:10:56.239 --> 01:10:57.640
for him to lose the first time he gets a

1457
01:10:57.640 --> 01:11:00.000
World Championship match. So I think this leads to an

1458
01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:02.680
another era in chapter where they take over the company,

1459
01:11:02.720 --> 01:11:04.920
because if he lost, it's be like, what was the

1460
01:11:04.920 --> 01:11:07.640
point of that. Now I'm gonna take Moxley in this one.

1461
01:11:09.039 --> 01:11:11.840
Yeah, I'm with you, Like it's funny because it was

1462
01:11:11.880 --> 01:11:13.640
just a short time ago you and I sat here

1463
01:11:13.640 --> 01:11:15.720
and said who's gonna be the guy to have thrown

1464
01:11:15.800 --> 01:11:17.600
Danielson at I don't know if we had Moxley on

1465
01:11:17.640 --> 01:11:21.880
the list, but yeah, I'm taking Moxley as well, And

1466
01:11:21.960 --> 01:11:23.800
it's all for the same reasons, like I just see

1467
01:11:23.800 --> 01:11:27.399
you to turning the BCC kind of taking over. I

1468
01:11:27.399 --> 01:11:29.159
don't know if Shane comes in or not, but you

1469
01:11:29.199 --> 01:11:32.640
know they've declared war on aw for being and this

1470
01:11:32.720 --> 01:11:36.159
is I'm actually for me. That makes him a baby

1471
01:11:36.159 --> 01:11:38.279
face because I agree with everything Moxley's saying. So I'm

1472
01:11:38.279 --> 01:11:39.600
taking Moxley get the win as well.

1473
01:11:39.840 --> 01:11:42.199
Yeah, I think they kind of alluded to a Wheeler

1474
01:11:42.239 --> 01:11:44.359
turn there a little bit of foreshadowing that tag team

1475
01:11:44.359 --> 01:11:46.640
match where Danielson was off the apron for a decent

1476
01:11:46.680 --> 01:11:48.840
amount of time and Wheeler went for that tag several

1477
01:11:48.880 --> 01:11:51.800
times and he was not there, so that could certainly

1478
01:11:51.840 --> 01:11:54.640
be a storyline reason as to why he turns on Danielson. Yes,

1479
01:11:54.720 --> 01:11:56.119
after try to.

1480
01:11:56.039 --> 01:11:58.119
Mention he's still part of the six man tag team

1481
01:11:58.159 --> 01:12:01.319
or the six man Tag Team Champions, that is true.

1482
01:12:01.359 --> 01:12:02.960
I mean, how often do you see that where the

1483
01:12:02.960 --> 01:12:04.840
trios champions are a feud with one another?

1484
01:12:05.359 --> 01:12:08.880
I forgot that was the phrasing my bat No problem.

1485
01:12:08.560 --> 01:12:10.439
So let's get a couple plugs and spots out of

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01:12:10.439 --> 01:12:12.479
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01:12:12.520 --> 01:12:15.520
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1491
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1492
01:12:25.159 --> 01:12:27.319
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1494
01:12:30.680 --> 01:12:33.039
the one for World of Doctor Trey Franklin this week?

1495
01:12:33.560 --> 01:12:35.520
Well, Jeff said, You can follow me on X at

1496
01:12:35.560 --> 01:12:38.319
the Doctor Tray. You can find me on Instagram and Facebook.

1497
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Doctor Trey Franklin. When you're on Facebook, be sure check

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out the shows I work with Rocket City Championship Wrestling

1499
01:12:44.079 --> 01:12:45.319
that I was there last Saturday.

1500
01:12:45.319 --> 01:12:47.880
I had a big show there. We got Spartan.

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01:12:47.600 --> 01:12:50.680
Championship Wrestling coming up on the twenty sixth. We have

1502
01:12:51.119 --> 01:12:54.319
Game Time Championship Wrestling every Friday here in Warrior, Alabama.

1503
01:12:54.439 --> 01:12:57.399
And then I'll actually be working with a local show

1504
01:12:57.600 --> 01:13:02.119
in Ardmore, Alabama on the twenty six for a fundraiser

1505
01:13:02.119 --> 01:13:06.199
for the ard Moore, Alabama slash Tennessee Police Department. Because Jeff,

1506
01:13:06.239 --> 01:13:09.079
this is a city that is actually on the state

1507
01:13:09.199 --> 01:13:12.079
line between Tennessee and Alabama, so there's one city in

1508
01:13:12.119 --> 01:13:12.840
two different states.

1509
01:13:12.840 --> 01:13:14.039
It's really cool. I love that town.

1510
01:13:14.479 --> 01:13:16.840
But I'll be up there helping support their local police

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departments on the twenty six But most importantly, go out

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there support.

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Your local wrestling shows.

1514
01:13:21.920 --> 01:13:24.079
So maybe that way, at some point, if Goldberg doesn't

1515
01:13:24.079 --> 01:13:25.880
get a retirement match, he might do a tour of

1516
01:13:25.920 --> 01:13:29.159
the US and just fight your local independent guys. So

1517
01:13:29.279 --> 01:13:32.600
Goldberg versus Gary the Treshcane Gibbs coming to a show

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01:13:32.640 --> 01:13:33.439
near you soon.

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There you go support all the great things that support SRTU.

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Wressel Dream, and of course everything that goes on the

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