July 13, 2023
Top 5 Wrestlers of the SRTU Era | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #700 – 7/13/23
On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show, Jeff & Dr. Trey Franklin:
- -- Celebrate the 700th episode of the podcast by bringing you their "Top 5 Wrestlers of the SRTU Era!"
On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show, Jeff & Dr. Trey Franklin:
- -- Celebrate the 700th episode of the podcast by bringing you their "Top 5 Wrestlers of the SRTU Era!"
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It's still leave beliving in talking talking
about to believe me. Welcome everybody,
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Welcome to this week's edition in a
Stone Real Joe Show, Episode number seven
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hundred for July thirteen, twenty twenty
three. Welcome to the seven hundredth edition
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of The ass Arete You. I
am one after the show. I am
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Jeff Pack joined every single week my
cohost only doctor Trey Franklin, Doctor Trey.
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We've done this for seven hundred straight
weeks, my friend. Yeah,
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this is one of those numbers that
you hit and you start doing the bath
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on it and you're like, well, let's see fifty two weeks in a
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year, fifty two to seven hundred
once again, you know, twelve,
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that's twelve years straight. Like,
if you had told me that we would
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do a show for twelve years,
every single week, not missing a date,
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I would have said that the odds
would be against us making it that
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far. So it's just a tribute
to our fans. It's a tribute to
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our willingness to kind of work together
and work through stuff. And then also
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just the fact that we really don't
have a life outside of this. That
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is very true. And I'm the
older we get the more of a life
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we don't have. So by my
math, so we've done seven hundred episodes
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of SRTU, roughly averaging probably around
an hour an episode. I know,
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over the last like six months or
so, we're doing probably like forty five
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minutes, fifty minutes, whatever,
but the average, and there's been years
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in the past where we've done episodes
for like two and a half hours.
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Let's say if every episode was an
hour long on average of SRTU seven hundred
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episodes, there are enough episodes that
if we released the entire library of SRTU
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and there was somebody out there,
some listener, some fan that was like,
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I'm going to listen to every episode
of srt I'm not going to sleep
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until I get to the very end, the most updated episode, that person
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it would take them twenty nine straight
days to listen to every single episode of
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SRTU. So we've done enough episodes, Doctor Trey. If my math is
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right that we have done twenty nine
days worth of episodes an hour, every
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hour of the day for twenty nine
days, that's pretty impressive, my friend.
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That's that's almost a month out of
our lives. That's almost as long
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as an aw pay per view.
True, it's it's close, but no
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cigar. Yeah, but I mean
that's that alone. Like people wou's talk
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about content content content, It's like, yeah, we've got enough content that
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I really amazed for those people who
have been with us for you know,
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anything more than a year, Like
if you can stand listening to mine and
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Jeff's voice every single week, for
an hour a day for a year,
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I was amazed at that. Uh, you know, we used to get
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the messages from you know, huntrees
overseas. I was always like, I
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think I got messages from somebody in
Saudi Arabia one time, somebody in Egypt.
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I was just blown away that,
like we had reached out across you
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know, several oceans and things like
that. So I don't think we have
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If anybody does decide to do the
binging of twenty nine days twenty four three,
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we are not responsible for what happens
to you at that point as well,
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because yeah, that's just insanity.
Yeah, that that is insanity.
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And to piggyback off of doctor Trey's
point there, it is it has always
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been mind blowing to me. We've
done this show for nearly fourteen years now.
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It'll be fourteen years in February of
next year, and the reach of
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this has been amazing. We've met
some really awesome people in our lives from
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this podcast. The listenership is always
insane. I know, people don't tweet
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in Facebook like they used to when
we first started doing this podcast, so
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listen interaction is kind of dwindled as
asp realize how much of a cesspool those
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social media platforms can be. But
from time to time still I'll get dms,
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I'll get messages mentions that just aren't
mind blowing, Like whenever anybody reaches
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out to us and they take a
time, literally take a time out of
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their day for forty five minutes to
an hour to listen, and Doctor Trey
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and I just two wrestling fans that
are friends, talk about wrestling each and
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every week and what things like are
important to us for seven hundred straight weeks,
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seven hundred episodes is mind blowing at
times. So you know, we
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started in those days where podcasting was
not as big back in twenty ten,
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and now everybody and their mother,
like literally there are probably podcasts out there
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that's like my mom and I talk
wrestling podcasts out there, So if we
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fall into your podcast that you listen
to each and every week, and there's
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plenty of other content that you can
listen to. Thank you so much for
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us always taking time out of your
day to include us in that catalog of
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podcasting, because there's a lot more
podcasts now than there was when we first
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started back in two thousand and ten. So here we are seven hundred seven
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hundredth episode of SRTU. The objective
today is to cover each of our lists
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of the top five wrestlers during the
SRTU era, So for twenty ten to
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present, we will share each of
our lists on this week's edition of the
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podcast. We've done this once before, and we did a top ten combined
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top ten wrestlers of the SRTU era
list for our two hundredth episode. That
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was back on December twelve, twenty
twelve, so two years in almost three
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years in will I will reveal that
lists momentarily. But I forgot to mention
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a story that's very important to this
podcast. On last week's edition of the
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pod, as we all know,
we talked about my wedding food poisoning being
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down in Disney, and I completely
forgot about telling the story that has to
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do with actual wrestling. Several years
ago, I mentioned on this podcast that
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while in Disney World, saw Kevin
Owens with his family. It was it
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was right after WrestleMania thirty three in
Orlando, and that was like mind blowing
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to me that he was there.
It was. It was badass this go
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around, which I'll start with the
first story, because I forgot to mention
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this like months ago now, doctor
Trade, It's almost probably been a year.
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It was back in November. Flew
into the Orlando International Airport. I'm
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waiting outside for my dad to pick
up my now wife and I from our
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flight. And who do I see
catching a car but aw superstar Michael Nakazawa.
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He was out there hopping in the
car and hopped in somebody's car and
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then left. And then this most
recent trip, I'm walking in Epcot for
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those that are Disney World fans.
I walked into the new Connections cafe that
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they just recently built, where there's
a Starbucks. I'm walking by the Starbucks
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line and I see a gentleman who
is probably the same height as me but
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with a much wider build, next
to a female that has purple hair that
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is holding it or pushing a stroller
and I ran into or saw Johnny Gargano,
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Candas Larrey and Baby wrestling himself in
line at Starbucks in Walt Disney World.
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So some wrestling stories for my most
recent trip, Doctor Tree, and
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even one that I failed to mention
several months ago when I saw Michael Nakazawa
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back in November. Yeah, the
Johnny Gargano Kanda's Lafe still waiting. Sammy
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actually at Walmart a few weeks ago
picked out the Cannas Lay figure that he
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wanted because of the purple hair.
So that's my attire that I look.
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The fact that you recognized Michael Nakazawa
is absurd, right, That just kind
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of shows you, like what kind
of wrestling fan Jeff Peck is. Of
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all the people, he goes,
hey, you know who I think that
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is? And then that name pops
up. It's just like, okay,
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maybe we need to cut back on
the wrestling a little bit because you should
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not be able to recognize Michael Becazowa
out of a crowd. So just putting
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that out there for you. But
I know, I know, But yeah,
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Johnny Gargano, Kandas Larey Baby wrestling
Quill Gargano and Michael Nakazawa, all
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who I've seen down in Florida here
in the last twelve months, did not
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bother the Gargano family. I don't
agree with that. Uh, they're enjoying
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Disney World with their son. It
was the Friday before Money the Bank,
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which was the next day. Then
saw Candice working Raw that Monday night,
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she was working the Fatal the Gauntlet
match for the Women's Tag Team Championship that
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the Complaint Committee ended up winning Sonya
Deville and Chelsea Green. So pretty cool.
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I'm a huge fan of Johnny Gargano
and had a little fanboy momentum switching
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gears here. So top ten wrestlers
of the SRTU era from two thousand and
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ten to present. For our two
hundredth episode back on December twelfth, twenty
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twelve, twelve, twelve twelve,
we did this episode. I think there's
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gonna be some laughs, gonna be
some groans, and then you're also gonna
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be like man that was wrestling back
then, but two hundred episodes under the
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under our Belt Doctor Trey. We
did a combined list at the time.
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Number ten was Davy Richards from Ring
of Honor wrestling at the time, So
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that just goes to show you.
I mean, we were very high on
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David Richards at the time. He
has had some accusations that are, if
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deemed true, reprehensible, and I
think it's retired from wrestling, but it's
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still training people. But we had
some high hopes for David Richards back in
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two thousand twelve that have never really
panned out. Yeah, and I think
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even that one, like I have
issues with Davy Richards personally, So it's
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like it's a weird thing. If
Eddie added me on Facebook like like a
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year or two ago, so I
was just like, okay, like I've
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done nothing but bad mouth at you
since like twenty fourteen, but okay,
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yeah, if we want to be
friends on Facebook, that's fine. So
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just just forgot how odd of a
choice that was, even though you know,
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back then, like we were really
high on not just him, but
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even just the American Wholves in general
and everything else and what they're what their
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trajectory was. So it's a it
is amazing how things can i'd say quickly
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change. But that was like eleven
years ago. Number nine, who at
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the time I believe he was working
for tena Arsse and Jeff Hardy. H
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yeah, wow, Like I mean
Jeff's I mean, this is a very
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long, very good career, just
once again had his own demons and stuff
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pop up. I would say that
if we did a Top twenty, Jeff
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Hardy still might make our top twenty. I just don't know if he would
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actually be even in our top ten. No, I don't think he's hit
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the top ten right now. Maybe
maybe top twenty. Number eight Daniel Bryan,
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who was working to at the time. Yeah, still active, still
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one of the best professional wrestlers in
the world, and definitely would probably be
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in our top ten if we did
a top ten. By the way,
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I'm not yeah, don't give away. Don't give away your list. I'm
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not gonna give mine away either.
So Number seven Bully Ray from Impact Wrestling
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TNA at the time. He was
so hot at that time, and then
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it wasn't it was maybe what two
years later he kind of retired and started
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doing the Busted Open stuff and now
he's kind of back a little bit.
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But uh, at that time,
that Bully Ray character was just fantastic.
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Yeah, he ended up going back
to we did that little run with the
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Dudley Boys. That has often forgotten
about Number six was Randy Orton from w
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w A. Uh, if not
for recent injuries, would probably like,
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I mean, I'd still put him
in the top ten of the SRTU era.
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But you know, if he had
not been injured the last year and
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a half, borderline top five,
uh, number five Shamus from de Wa.
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You know, I I don't know
how you feel that he may have
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had the most underrated WW career just
about anybody. I've said that about Kane
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as well. Yeah, like just
the longevity, holding almost every title except
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for one, and then now there's
some of the brawling bruis. Just you
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know, you gotta remember, like
if you go back, like the first
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time when he beat John Cena,
it was because Jesse the Body of Insure
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introduced him that night too. That
was one of those like just shows you
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how long he's been around, because
it's been a very long time. As
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Jesse the Body of Venture was mentioned
on w w ETV number four. I
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think this is going to cause a
lot of groans from w w E At
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the time, Alberto del Rio wait
I signed off on that, Yes,
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I love that your son streamed da
by the way. Yeah, he loved
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some del rio, but like arguably
maybe my most like most disliked wrestler I've
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ever covered on this show. Yeah, yeah, no, I I know.
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I think it was all afterwards that
there was a lot of dislike based
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on some choices and reports out there
by him. Number three from at the
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time Ring of Honor Wrestling. We
know him today is a different person,
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different name, but back then he
went by his real name of Kevin Steen.
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Yeah. Still arguably in our top
ten and maybe the I mean,
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I don't know where's gonna fall on
your rankings. I don't know where you're
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gonna fall on mine. But one
of the most influential wrestlers of the last
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twelve years for US. Number two
from w w E, John Cena once
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again, wasn't that long after that
he would fully part time. I mean,
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he's probably in the top ten just
for what he's done, but really
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the last year, four or five
years, it's just very very part time
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for US. So but Seena's like
at that time, was still the workhorse
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of WWE. Doctor Trey. You
want to take a guess at who was
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number one. Honestly have no clue
from at the time WWE one c M
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Punk. Yeah, I mean that
was shortly after the pipe bomb everything else,
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so it makes a lot of sins
and he's still like, Look,
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the top two people are both guys
that we had to make rules about on
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this show. We could not we
couldn't talk about a heel turn We couldn't
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talk about a CM Punk return on
this show. Those are rules that we
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had written off air just because we
would do. I think one of those
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shows you mentioned that we did hours
on was most of it was about a
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John Cena heel turn out of WrestleMania. So those two guys right there are
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are like still to this day,
are very very influential on this show over
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the over all seven other episodes.
So that was the top ten wrestlers of
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the SRTU era back on our two
hundredth episode on December twelve, twenty twelve,
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once again ten David Richards nine,
Jeff Hardy eight, Daniel Bryan seven,
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Vullie Ray six, Randy Orton five, Shamus four, Alberto del Rio
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three, Kevin Steen to John Cena
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get to uh here we are five
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combo list, we're gonna do our
and doing ten of them. We're gonna
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narrow it down to our top five
wrestlers of the SRTU era, each of
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us doing our list. Here we
are for the seven or eight episode,
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so everything from two thousand and ten
to present, during the history the era
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of the still realta show. Um, doctor, try, would you like
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me to kick it off? Would
you like to kick it off? How
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would you like to do things?
My friend? Well, I guess I'll
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go and kick it off since I'm
fighting with Sammy right now because he's trying
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to stab a fan with a giant
stick at the same time. Okay,
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you need to take a pause to
make sure your son doesn't cut his fingers.
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He's fine, it's it's it's it's
he can't get his little fingers in
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there. But that's why he got
so excited, because you get the stick
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to actually stick in the outer frame
of the fans. So yeah, it's
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if he's not hitting me, he's
hitting something else. That's what he always
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does. Long, very true,
very true. But so I'll start off
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with my number five was our number
one five hundred episodes ago. I'm going
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with see him Punk at number five, although he had a seven year hiatus
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in the middle of it. Just
from the wrestling standpoint, the fan interaction,
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the amount of content he has created
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know, with that seven year gap, it's hard to argue his influence on
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the show. And he's also one
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favorite wrestlers just to watch in general. So by number five is Phil Brooks
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aka see him Punk? Wow?
I mean that just tells you the the
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impact he's hand because like you said, Doctor Trey, I mean it would
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be two years later from our two
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would not return until twenty twenty one, so seven years out of nearly fourteen
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half of our existence. He wasn't
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But again, I think when it
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that we've ever covered, someone that
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Cmpunk. I mean, there's there's
not many people that when Doctor Trey and
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I talk about them that we get
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story, whether it was what will
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fourteen, or will see Himpunk ever
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Himpunk perform in the UFC? Is
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returning to w There was a period
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joined w backstage where it was like, man, is he coming back?
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then the brawl out, the injuries, the controversy, the dirt cheats,
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whether they were true or not,
the stories. There's nobody that has moved
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the needle more on this show than
Sampunk. I think the only other person
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I could really think of doctor Trey, that has moved the needle as much
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as him, and it's it's very
much like kind of touching the gravity that
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Sampunk has had is maybe John Cena
over the years. I don't think there's
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anybody else that is we've talked about
more than Sampunk that has moved the needle
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like he has. I mean,
seen has moved the needle, but kind
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of in different reasons, like it's
his charity work, it's the character,
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it's the nature of the band's nut, all the other things that have covered
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with Cmpunk whether it's the lawsuits or
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or UFC, it's it's you know, seen it. They get our attention
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for different reasons. I guess,
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creative than anything. Um, I
just from I guess from an overall standpoint,
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it's always been cmpunk who's moved the
needle to most here in the history
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podcast. So number five for Doctor
Trey is cmpunk from AW. For me
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keeping with AW, my number five
was the very first AW World Champion,
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Chris Jericho. I think when you
look through the entire history of this show,
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I mean when we first started,
he was I believe he was.
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I believe he was World heavyweight Champion, had defeated the Undertaker and Elimination Chamber
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in twenty and ten, thanks to
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up the Wrestle Many twenty sixth match. Here he is nearly fourteen years later,
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and he's still a prominent figure in
professional wrestling, always changing his persona,
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changing his character, keeping himself fresh, keeping himself new and at all
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times, and still performing in the
ring at the highest equality. So for
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me, doctor Trey, I gave
my number five to les Champion Chris Jericho
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the o Choke coming in at Sinco. I like it. It's he was
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on my list of people. I
was considering it, and even up until
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the show started, it was kind
of like back and forth, like trying
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to find a spot for him because
you know, not only is he one
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of the greatest rustlers of all time, one of the greatest entertainers, the
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king of reinvention, all those things. I mean, he moves the needle
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like people pay attention to what he
does. You know, he's just and
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we've talked about the show like for
a long time in WB and even in
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AUW now he's the ultimate soldier.
If he's at the top of the cards,
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he's viable and people believe in him, and if he's helping elevate younger
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talent, people buy into that.
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some of the matches he's had in
AW with, you know, the Orange
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Cassidy's, the Darby Allen, the
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that he's worked with to help elevate
them as well. For the good of
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the companies these shows. He still
has that mindset of, Hey, whatever
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you guys need me to do,
I'm going to do. Whether it's be
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the world champion or be at the
middle or the bottom of the card,
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He's gonna do whatever it takes to
help out his employers. So great overall
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worker and one of the most entertaining
people in the history of wrestling. All
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right, Doc Trey, let's get
to number four on your list. Who
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came in a number four Top five
wrestlers of the SRTU era. So this
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is where the Jericho spot was in
my head. And I went back and
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forth between Jericho and the person I
picked at number four for one reason,
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I felt like we need an AW
person on my top five. Went back
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and forth. But one of the
things was in the history of the show,
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and we had this discussion of this
group way back when, god this
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is probably twenty fourteen, when I
was like a guest host. So my
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number four is from AW John Moxley
looking at the you know, he may
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not have been the most polarizing person, but consistency and going back to that
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conversation about we had like a four
way podcast talking about you know, the
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shield and how they would fit in
into the wrestling world, and we had
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high hopes for all three of them, and you know, Max has delivered
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for the most part. You know, he was the workhorse in WWE,
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was on he felt like he was
on every episode of Raw and SmackDown all
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the way through his time and then
coming to ADW outside of the little bit
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of time he had takeaway to go
to rehab, He's maybe one of the
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art of the most consistent wrestlers in
the world over the last ten years.
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So not to mention multiple time WWE
champion, multiple time a w champion,
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his stuff in New Japan has been
great. So my number four is John
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Moxley. Yeah, great call there
by mox Um. I mean he's had
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a very impactful career in general,
which is basically from a mainstream standpoint,
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started and continued on during the entire
history of this podcast, debuting in twenty
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twelve with the Shield and then started
hitting his stride. Once they broke up.
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He became world Champion, Interconinal Champion, veered off to AW where he's
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arguably been the best AW World champion
during the promotion short history. He carries
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the banner of AW, the flag
of aw very proudly great call there,
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Doctor Trey by picking John Moxley number
four. So another aw wrestler making the
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list here on the top five Wrestlers
of the SRTU era from Doctor Trey.
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Now for my number four, which
I think to most is going to be
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a surprise that they're this far back
on the top five list. But for
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me, when you look at the
I've really thought about it and it was
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like overall grand scheme of things,
like where does this person fall in there?
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They're definitely top five. You can
make a case for them. For
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number one. When we did the
ten year anniversary special, Doctor Trey named
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this person the SRTU Wrestler of the
decade the first ten years of of SRTU,
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and they had never won the Wrestler
of the Year award in the history
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of the podcast, which was badass
and justifiable because they like, we're a
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consistent top three wrestler during you know, most of our time in doing this
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podcast. So my number four wrestler
of all time here Top five Wrestlers of
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the SRTU ara Doctor Trey from the
we he started in RoHS Kevin Steen and
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he's now known today as Kevin Owens. I gave Kevin Owens a nod at
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number four. No, that's that's
a it's a great choice. And excuse
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me. We talked about it last
like all fair last week that you know,
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where do we slot a guy in
that's never won our Wrestler of the
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Year war but obviously has been a
huge part of this show, whether it's
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Jeff running into him in Disney World
or Jeff talking to his dad, Like,
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this guy's been all like all around
us the entire history of this show.
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You know, I think I've told
you before, like when I was
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planning on going to wrestling school back
in my twenties, the character in my
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head that I kind of came up
with is who the Kevin Owens character is,
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you know, like I'm not the
best shape of the world. Like
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I'm a little bit round. It's
a little bit the Dusty Rose. My
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belly's just a little bit too big, my butts a little bit too big.
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fits that dusty stone cold kind of
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character that, you know, the
blue collar guy that fans always kind of
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get behind him. And we've seen
it over the years, like he's just
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as good at being a villain as
he is being a good guy. So
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one of the most well rounded workers
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there, All right, doctor Crail, Let's get to number three. Who
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came at number three on your list? So number three for me is somebody
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who has won Wrestler of the Year
twice in the history of this show.
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Once again, kind of going back
in that conversation I just had about John
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Moxley, somebody that we discussed,
I guess kind of in their infancy in
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WWE. So my number three coming
in is Seth freaking Rawlins. And I
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hate saying freaking that sounds weird to
me, but anyway, Seth Freakin Rollins
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number three. Guys we talked about
with Chris Jericho, one of those guys
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that always seems to reinvent himself,
whether it's the architect in the Shield,
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whether it's you know, with um, you know, with dripple Age and
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Stephanie and and Jamie Noble and those
guys backing them up, you know,
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all the way up through you know, the the Monday Night Messiah into the
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Drip King, into this evolution that
he's in now one of the most consistent
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performers despite missing a year with the
torn acl just one of those guys like
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where it once again, wherever they
need him, whether it's top of the
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car, mail the car, in
a tag team with Kevin Owens, like,
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doesn't seem to matter what they need
him to do, he does it
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and the crowd always responds to him. So number three for me is Seth
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Frickin Rollins. Yeah, Doctor Treman, that's a great point. You know,
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he is one of the most impactful
wrestlers in the history of the show.
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And I think, just for the
sake of other conversations here, I'm
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gonna skip further dialogue here because maybe, maybe, just maybe he pops up
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again on my list as well.
Here for the top five. So number
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three, Doctor Trey, Seth Rollins
from the we my number three, that
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is. I think this is gonna
be funny because when we went through the
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top ten wrestlers of the SRTU era, doctor Trey said that this wrestler maybe
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makes the top ten and due to
recent injuries, had had probably not made
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the lists. And I kind of
laughed a little bit because he came in
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number three on my list, and
it's mister consistency up until the last year
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and a half of the back injury. But from w it's Randy Orton from
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two thousand and ten to twenty twenty
one, there was no more consistent wrestler
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in the history of this podcast in
my opinion than Randy Orton. I think
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you can make a case for Jericho, who came in number five for me,
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but there were periods of time that
Jericho was not wrestling and was,
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you know, doing the band thing
or doing the family thing, staying up
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to you know, resting the body
in the mind, and Randy Orton was
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always there, whether there was creative
that we liked, like his most recent
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run with r K bro or creative
that we didn't like his run with Legacy
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in the early stages of the podcast
or later on with the Authority with Triple
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H and Stephany McMahon. Randy Orton
has always been to me, Doctor Trey
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mister consistent. So this may be
a shock to you, becau is of
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what you said earlier on in the
podcast, but I went number three.
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I went with Randy Orton due to
his consistency in the in the history of
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the podcast. Yeah, I think
for me, just the you know,
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there's a couple of guys on my
list that have been you know, missed
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some time with some injuries and things
like that, but there there really isn't
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a more consistent wrestler during the course
of the show than Randy Orton. I
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mean, how the guys have what
Fourteen time world champion, thirteen time world
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champion. I mean, it's kind
of hard to to knock a guy,
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a little bit of the injuries that kind
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of pushed him out of my top
five. But he's actually my favorite wrestler
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to watch in the wrestling ring because
he's kind of a blend of the old
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school and the new school, and
he could have a good, like a
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really good solid match with anybody without
doing a whole lot. You know,
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they always people used to make fun
of him a little bit for like dropping
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that yeah that chin lock in the
middle of a match kind of slow everything
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down. But then you know,
we talked about a couple of weeks ago
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with uh the Brian Danielson uh uh
oh, I'm sorry, blanking um from
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preventing or okadah. Yeah, because
it was a very Randy Orton style of
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match and his influence among the younger
generation as they come to the w system
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has really felt because it was a
lot of those super indie guys that are
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super fast and in go one hundred
miles an hour. You know, they
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kind of watched the Randy Orton stuff
and they learned to slow it down.
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So, um, Randy's just the
consummate professional. Like jb Elsa said,
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like, if if you're going to
build up a pro wrestler, you usually
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end up with a guy that was
just like Randy Ortons. So it's a
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it's a very very solid picking.
Like I said, for me, it
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was just a little bit of the
injuries over the over those years, I
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kind of pushed him down just a
hair. No, totally understand which,
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by the way, so far during
all these lists, like nothing I can
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argue about from from your side of
things either. I mean, it's these
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are these are folks I felt like
we've named so far that would fall into
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a collective top ten lists. So
it'll be interesting now as we reached the
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final two if there's a lot of
similarities here with what doctor Trey and I
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come up with. So now it's
times you get to number two Doctor Trey,
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who was number two on your list
for top five wrestlers of the SRTU
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era. Well, number two for
me is somebody we kind of already discussed,
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maybe a little high on my list
because you thought he was a little
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low on yours. But my number
two is the former Kevin Stein now known
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as Kevin Owens from WWE. Like, for me, when we talk about
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consistency over the course of this show, like there are very few people that
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are as consistent as Kevin Owens,
whether it was his time and Ring of
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Honor, whether it's Hyman WWE,
like, he's always been in our top
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five. It seemed like every single
year that this show has been on the
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air. And then you look at
you know, like what he's done in
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ww with multiple world title reigns or
Kandel title United States out now with the
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tag team titles. He's one of
those guys as always right there near the
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top of the card. And not
to mention, he's the guy that w
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W hands selected to have him match
with Stone Cold Steve Austin. So when
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you look at all those things going
in factoring in one of the best talkers
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in wrestling, one of the best
heels when he's a heel, really really
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good baby face, I would say
his heel works a little bit better than
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baby Face, but outside of that, like it's this hard and knocker guy
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that's just as consistent as Kevin Owens
has been over the last you know,
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fourteen years. So my number two
is Kevin Owens. Yeah, kay,
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00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:39.839
hit on on that at all.
We all know mine feelings about Kevin Owens.
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Spoke about him this moment ago when
I had him at number four,
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But I feel like I could have
had him number three. I could have
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had him number two. I could
have had him number one on mind list
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as well. And we just spoke
about consistency with Randy Orton and doct Trey.
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You hit it on the head.
Kevin Owens has had the same consistency
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as well since two thousand and ten, since we started this podcast, when
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he was on the rise in ROH
became our OH World Champion, got signed
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by We, became NXT Champion,
went over to the main rosters, feuding
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with John Cena, becomes United States
Champion, Intercontinental Champions, wins the Universal
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00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:20.559
Championship. He's had some injury bugs, there's been times where creative has not
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been that great, but overall,
the creative, I don't know thirteen out
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of fourteen years I'm doing this podcast, probably Kevin Owens is is a top
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five wrestler each one of those years, so can't hit on that. Number
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two on Doctor Trey's list is Kevin
Owens from We and Now. My number
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two, which could be number one
on Doctor Trey's list, could be on
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number one on most people's list,
but for me, my number two is
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the current Head of the Table,
the Tribal Chief one Roman Reigns. It
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was tough of where I could put
him in on this list because the last
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three years have in some of the
best three years of professional wrestling I've seen
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in sometime some of the best runs
I've ever seen to this day in twenty
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twenty three. He's been on top
since twenty twenty. There's never been a
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time where I've been like tired of
him at all. His stuff is captivating,
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it's amazing to watch on television.
It's some of the best again and
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creative I've ever seen. Over a
thousand days as a world champion in today's
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modern era is nothing to sneeze at. I think the only drawback from him
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is up until this Tribal Chief,
Head of the Table bloodline run Roman Reigns
466
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was kind of mediocre, Like he
was great as an inn ring performer,
467
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but his character was lacking. It
was like, you know, the way
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that John Cena was for most of
his career until the end when we saw
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00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:53.480
John Cena like really let it fly
as an in ring performer. He wasn't
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jammed down our throats as the top
guy, and we were able to start
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to enjoy Roman Reign John Cena back
then. And that's how I feel like
472
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lately with Roman Reigns. They finally
leaned into him being a heel and it's
473
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been amazing. It's like Hollywood Hogan
esque when in w CW when it was
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like ninety six to ninety nine and
it was just time to turn the baby
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face heel and let's see what they
can do. And this character, this
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iteration of Roman Reigins, is one
of the best characters of all time.
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00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:27.599
This Roman Reigns, this inner iteration, this character of Roman Reigins is the
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one that we're going to remember the
most. We will not remember the big
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Dog as much or the shield as
much. It's going to be the tribal
480
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chief, it's going to be the
head of the table, the land the
481
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island of relevancy, the head of
that all that being Roman reigns. So
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for me, Doctor Trey, I
have him number two on my list,
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so I'll kind of skip my overview
because when it comes to my number one,
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it's the same guy. It's the
tribal chief head a table. Roman
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reigns. And for the things that
you said, I don't knock him as
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00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:06.440
much for the John Cena version of
him that you were alluding to, Like,
487
00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:10.559
I don't really knock him as badly, and I'm not saying badly is
488
00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:15.800
in you know, you you over
or you underrated him, But it's the
489
00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:22.239
last three years has almost made up
for the first seven. Um Like this
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00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:28.920
is the best performance from a professional
wrestler that I've seen, Like the Hogan
491
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:31.920
of Reference is fantastic, but just
I mean, this is Rick Flair four
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00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:37.360
horsemanesque. This is the kind of
stuff that when you are trying to be
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00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:42.400
a heel and model yourself, like
he gets the reaction that's positive and then
494
00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:45.320
gets booted out of the building within
the thirty seconds of each other, Like
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00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:51.719
it's it's it's he constantly now has
the crowd in the palm of his hand
496
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and the fact that he's helped elevate
you know, other people around him.
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00:37:57.760 --> 00:38:01.360
Uh, not to mention you know, the USO and solo. Everything else
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00:38:01.400 --> 00:38:07.079
he's brought to the table over the
last three years is something we haven't seen
499
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:09.880
in decades. I mean, this
is a once in a generation performance he's
500
00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:15.199
pulling off right now. So and
then even before that, yeah, the
501
00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:19.679
character wasn't great, but the consistency
of being in the ring always be the
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00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:22.639
top of the card a guy at
least give them credit for that as well.
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00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:24.679
So for me, my number one
is Roman Rains, So you go,
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Number one on doctor Trace list is
the one and only Roman Rains coming
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00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:36.239
in number two on mine. My
number one wrestler of the SRTU era is
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00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:40.039
the same guy that I named as
the SRTU Wrestler of the Decade back at
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00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:45.320
our ten Years special in twenty twenty, a year that we obviously loved and
508
00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:51.000
adored in twenty twenty, and that
is one Seth Rollins. I won't call
509
00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:53.119
him Seth freakin Rollins. I've always
known him as Seth Rollins. Earned all
510
00:38:53.159 --> 00:39:00.280
this so debuting in twenty twelve from
a w E standpoint, but even going
511
00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:05.880
back further to the beginning of the
show, he had just come off of
512
00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:08.800
his run as ROH World Champion.
I think he left in the fall of
513
00:39:08.920 --> 00:39:13.320
two thousand and nine, maybe fall
of two thousand and ten. I can't
514
00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:16.760
seem to remember right now, but
I think it was fall of two thousand
515
00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:20.760
and ten. He had become World
Champion in two thousand and ten, so
516
00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:23.000
even when we first started, he
was ROH World Champion, went over wa
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00:39:23.559 --> 00:39:29.639
The run with the Shield is obviously
electric in historic when they branched off and
518
00:39:29.719 --> 00:39:34.840
he became kind of the guy coming
out of that group, initially getting the
519
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:38.000
run with the authority, getting the
run as a world champion. He was
520
00:39:38.039 --> 00:39:42.719
a double champion at one point in
United States and World Champion. He's feuding
521
00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:46.800
with John Cena. He had one
of the greatest moments in the history of
522
00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:52.800
the podcast when he cashed in a
WrestleMania. It was one of the best
523
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:55.639
WrestleManias we've ever covered in the podcast
as well. I mean, and that
524
00:39:55.719 --> 00:40:00.199
was a lot because of seth rownds
a match at the year can in it
525
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:05.000
for each year grant him when they
turned him baby face towards the later part
526
00:40:05.039 --> 00:40:09.280
of twenty eighteen nineteen he started to
get stale, and then they did the
527
00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:14.320
right move by changing him to a
heel, and the heel run that he
528
00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:20.039
had was really really good as the
Messiah, that was a great run.
529
00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:23.360
And then you kind of saw him
become a baby face again organically because the
530
00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:29.280
fans really enjoyed watching him. And
I feel like it's kind of been like
531
00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:34.960
the cherry on top of everything lately. Is this current run he's had as
532
00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:37.639
a baby face the last two years, last two three years, and now
533
00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:43.400
as a world the first of this
iteration of the World havyweight Championship. Running
534
00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:46.840
with with that title presently has been
a joy to watch. He wants to
535
00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:52.519
be the workhorse champion. I went
back and forth basically if I would go
536
00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:57.039
with Roman Reigns or seth Rons.
I think if you ask me the way
537
00:40:57.079 --> 00:41:00.079
that they're going right now, what
will be a year from now. It's
538
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:04.880
very well possible that it flip flops
where Roman Rains is one, Rawlins is
539
00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:08.599
two, or it could remain the
same. I just feel like for me,
540
00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:14.840
in the history of this podcast,
Rawlins and Rains have been some of
541
00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:20.239
the upper echelon in the history of
this pod. We've watched their careers blossom
542
00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:23.400
and grow into who they've become and
who they are nowadays. So for me,
543
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:27.639
Doctor Trey, I went with Seth
Rons number one on my list top
544
00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:32.079
five wrestler of the SRTU era.
Yeah, see, my top three almost
545
00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:37.559
were interchangeable, Like it was that
close between Rains Rawlins and like those three
546
00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:44.840
guys to be are the most influential
people on us as far as the history
547
00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:50.199
of this show, I can't argue
Seth rollinsby number one because literally I said,
548
00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:54.159
it was like splitting hairs between those
guys. For me, it's funny
549
00:41:54.159 --> 00:42:00.320
because, like I know we did
the we played like was a lad two
550
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:02.480
years ago or like at the pandemic
time. We put out all the old
551
00:42:02.559 --> 00:42:06.960
episodes and one of my favorite ones, like I mentioned earlier, was that
552
00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:08.760
podcast the four of us did.
It was like it was you be Bret
553
00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:14.119
somebody else I think Benny Lopez,
Benny Lopez and we were talking about the
554
00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:17.280
shield and where we thought they were
gonna go. And it was funny because
555
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:21.840
I was the one guy that was
kind of on Seth Rollins bandwagon and everybody
556
00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:25.559
else was on the Dean Ambrose and
Roman Range bandwagon. And to see where
557
00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:30.519
we're at now and see that all
three of those guys have had amazing Hall
558
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:34.280
of Fame worthy careers. Ull I
mean, god, I mean, I
559
00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:37.719
can't mean, I couldn't even tell
you how many World championships between all three
560
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of those guys. Just like for
a group to come in together and then
561
00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:47.079
break out on their own and set
such a high bar where none of them
562
00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:52.320
are the Marty Janetti, you know, none of them are the ten EVIASI
563
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:58.000
Junior, They're all you know worthy
of praise is incredible. So and then
564
00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:02.000
like like I mentioned, was like
the evolution of the character, always staying
565
00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:07.840
fresh, always save the head of
the curve, not to mention landing one
566
00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:12.360
of those beautiful women in the world
to you know, and Becky Lynch to
567
00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:16.039
be his wife. The guys had
a great run, so kudos to him.
568
00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:21.079
And like I said, it's it's
impossible to argue with Seth being your
569
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number one. And I think when
you look at both of our lists from
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a thousand and foot view, like
I could make a case of putting Kevin
571
00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:32.400
Owens in my top three, and
then you could literally have or you and
572
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:38.320
I both while different spots had Rollins, Owens reigns in our top threes each.
573
00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:43.559
I mean I had him at number
four, you had him at number
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00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:47.840
two. It's it's I just feel
like, while there were some differences in
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our lists, I think when you
look at this overall, it's very well
576
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:57.519
possible that every person that we named, even the guys that weren't named the
577
00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:00.880
same that we both didn't have in
our top five lists, you can make
578
00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:05.960
a case would fall into that top
ten wrestlers of the srt RA overall.
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00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:08.360
Yeah, by the way, we
ever do that again. I'm pretty sure
580
00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:12.679
Davy Richards will not be in our
top twenty. No, neither while Alberto
581
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:16.199
del Rio. But yeah, when
you look at like anybody listening to show,
582
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:20.400
like I mean, like right now
we're sitting here and Samy's names,
583
00:44:20.440 --> 00:44:22.960
one of the most influential guys on
both of us not in our top five.
584
00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:28.440
He probably would kind of about nine
or ten for both of us in
585
00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:31.800
the history of this show. But
you know, there are just certain guys
586
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:37.880
that we've always been fans of and
keeps a ton of praise on, and
587
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:42.480
it just kind of shows that you
can kind of move these guys around.
588
00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:46.199
And I would say probably both your
top five my top five would be in
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00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:52.679
our top tens, respectively on each
side, and then you know, a
590
00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:57.639
few more guys ad in there.
But like it's basically been kind of these
591
00:44:57.800 --> 00:45:01.760
three guys above everybody else outside of
aj aj Styles. You know, I
592
00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:07.039
think he won the Rust of the
Year twice for US didn't make our top
593
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:10.480
five. Yeah, so's it's a
very interesting list that we have. When
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00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:14.559
you look at like Rust, you
know, we could have put you know,
595
00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:17.559
Becky in there, Charlotte in there
as well. I went back and
596
00:45:17.679 --> 00:45:22.480
forth like adding new usos into my
list just because of their tag team work
597
00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:25.760
over the history of this show,
which is probably greater than anybody else's.
598
00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:30.679
So like there's a lot of people
that you could kind of push. I
599
00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:34.280
mean, even if we did a
top ten, Jeff at eleven, twelve,
600
00:45:34.320 --> 00:45:36.559
and thirteen could be argued to be
in the top ten as well.
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00:45:36.920 --> 00:45:40.880
Yeah, so, great lists,
great discussion here once again, Doctor Trey's
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list number five, Cmpunk number four, John Moxley number three, Seth Rollins
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number two, Kevin Owens number one, Roman Reigns My list number five,
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Chris Jericho number four, Kevin Owens
number three, Randy Or number two,
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Roman reigns and number one seth rollins. So our top five rushes are the
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sr TU error. For the seven
hundredth episode of this podcast, out Trey
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is officially in the books. My
friend, Yeah, are we gonna get
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it like episode fourteen hundred. Yeah, maybe I'll I'm definitely gonna keep this
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list so we can always revert back
to. I had to go through like
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my old notes to find that top
ten wrestlers of srt ER from the two
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hundreth episode, and I've kept my
notes from like important episodes over the years,
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so I was lucky to find that. So that was cool to look
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back and see how and where we
came from nearly eleven years ago. For
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the two hundredth episode of SRTU,
so five hundred episodes ago. Um,
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with that set, let's close up
shop on episode number seven hundred, let's
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get a couple of plugs and sponsored
out of the way. You can download
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show every Thursday or Friday at Real
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show iTunes feed don't forget to rate, review and subscribe to help us clumb
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Jeff and for Doctor Trey Franklin at
the Doctor Trey and of course don't forget
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to follow show on Twitter at SRTU
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is going on the wonderful world of
door s Dre Franklin this week. Well,
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like Jeff said, you can find
me on Twitter at the Doctor Trey.
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You will not find me on threads
yet because I have not made that
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move, but you can find me
on Facebook and Instagram Doctor Dre Franklin.
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And when you're on Facebook, check
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great things that support the Still Real
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thanks to all of you who have
been downloading this podcast each and every week.
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Thank you for making us reach this
seven hundredth milestone. Cheers and salute
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to everybody who's been here for seven
hundred episodes. Congratulations to Doctor Trey,
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and a sincere thanks Dam as well
for doing this each and every week seven
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hundred straight weeks. Nothing to sneeze
out here, folks. We love doing
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this podcast every single week for nearly
fourteen years. So thank you for making
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this part of your week. Thank
you for making us part of anything that
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you uh and everything you could potentially
listen to. Thank you sincerely for all
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your support, and until next week
for dry Franklin. I'm Jeff back for
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the seven hundredth time. This is
the shopping I suppose that throughout pulls it
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out like get the shoes yard,
it'll beware looking then listen jomp, welcome
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to the less time. I'm fair, got a line on you too,
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don't fag well, it's always be
fair. At who's checking? He even
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knows where the hipp has, knows
that he really wanted he wants there sitting
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over there, supports that be underwear, who start is banding the hand,
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all your pretenders where you check the
snake surprisingly had a snake, all the
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water had paint on his face,
has Jim dugging and a true by four.
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But with style like this man,
you don't need no more. Got
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a lot of friends, I got
a lot of falls. Quicker than the
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booth read, I'll be bouncing nothing
bot lots of people talking. You gotta
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tell you you want to me that? Whoa? Who was that sitting over
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there sporting nothing underwear? Who is
beding the hand? Are your pretenders?
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Will shine the flame crack Shilba be
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car it dies to find the dynam
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which country. Masson says, by
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out all getting bud It's limousine listening
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nothing, just dealings a medically only
one who's that day spoke in that thing
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on the wind holds the hair while
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a whoa whoa? Come I say
a hole. Wh
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It's still leave beliving in talking talking
about to believe me. Welcome everybody,
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Welcome to this week's edition in a
Stone Real Joe Show, Episode number seven
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hundred for July thirteen, twenty twenty
three. Welcome to the seven hundredth edition
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of The ass Arete You. I
am one after the show. I am
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Jeff Pack joined every single week my
cohost only doctor Trey Franklin, Doctor Trey.
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We've done this for seven hundred straight
weeks, my friend. Yeah,
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this is one of those numbers that
you hit and you start doing the bath
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on it and you're like, well, let's see fifty two weeks in a
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year, fifty two to seven hundred
once again, you know, twelve,
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that's twelve years straight. Like,
if you had told me that we would
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do a show for twelve years,
every single week, not missing a date,
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I would have said that the odds
would be against us making it that
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far. So it's just a tribute
to our fans. It's a tribute to
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our willingness to kind of work together
and work through stuff. And then also
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just the fact that we really don't
have a life outside of this. That
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is very true. And I'm the
older we get the more of a life
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we don't have. So by my
math, so we've done seven hundred episodes
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of SRTU, roughly averaging probably around
an hour an episode. I know,
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over the last like six months or
so, we're doing probably like forty five
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minutes, fifty minutes, whatever,
but the average, and there's been years
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in the past where we've done episodes
for like two and a half hours.
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Let's say if every episode was an
hour long on average of SRTU seven hundred
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episodes, there are enough episodes that
if we released the entire library of SRTU
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and there was somebody out there,
some listener, some fan that was like,
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I'm going to listen to every episode
of srt I'm not going to sleep
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until I get to the very end, the most updated episode, that person
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it would take them twenty nine straight
days to listen to every single episode of
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SRTU. So we've done enough episodes, Doctor Trey. If my math is
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right that we have done twenty nine
days worth of episodes an hour, every
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hour of the day for twenty nine
days, that's pretty impressive, my friend.
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That's that's almost a month out of
our lives. That's almost as long
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as an aw pay per view.
True, it's it's close, but no
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cigar. Yeah, but I mean
that's that alone. Like people wou's talk
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about content content content, It's like, yeah, we've got enough content that
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I really amazed for those people who
have been with us for you know,
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anything more than a year, Like
if you can stand listening to mine and
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Jeff's voice every single week, for
an hour a day for a year,
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I was amazed at that. Uh, you know, we used to get
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the messages from you know, huntrees
overseas. I was always like, I
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think I got messages from somebody in
Saudi Arabia one time, somebody in Egypt.
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I was just blown away that,
like we had reached out across you
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know, several oceans and things like
that. So I don't think we have
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If anybody does decide to do the
binging of twenty nine days twenty four three,
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we are not responsible for what happens
to you at that point as well,
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because yeah, that's just insanity.
Yeah, that that is insanity.
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And to piggyback off of doctor Trey's
point there, it is it has always
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been mind blowing to me. We've
done this show for nearly fourteen years now.
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It'll be fourteen years in February of
next year, and the reach of
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this has been amazing. We've met
some really awesome people in our lives from
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this podcast. The listenership is always
insane. I know, people don't tweet
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in Facebook like they used to when
we first started doing this podcast, so
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listen interaction is kind of dwindled as
asp realize how much of a cesspool those
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social media platforms can be. But
from time to time still I'll get dms,
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I'll get messages mentions that just aren't
mind blowing, Like whenever anybody reaches
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out to us and they take a
time, literally take a time out of
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their day for forty five minutes to
an hour to listen, and Doctor Trey
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and I just two wrestling fans that
are friends, talk about wrestling each and
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every week and what things like are
important to us for seven hundred straight weeks,
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seven hundred episodes is mind blowing at
times. So you know, we
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started in those days where podcasting was
not as big back in twenty ten,
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and now everybody and their mother,
like literally there are probably podcasts out there
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that's like my mom and I talk
wrestling podcasts out there, So if we
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fall into your podcast that you listen
to each and every week, and there's
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plenty of other content that you can
listen to. Thank you so much for
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us always taking time out of your
day to include us in that catalog of
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podcasting, because there's a lot more
podcasts now than there was when we first
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started back in two thousand and ten. So here we are seven hundred seven
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hundredth episode of SRTU. The objective
today is to cover each of our lists
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of the top five wrestlers during the
SRTU era, So for twenty ten to
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present, we will share each of
our lists on this week's edition of the
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podcast. We've done this once before, and we did a top ten combined
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top ten wrestlers of the SRTU era
list for our two hundredth episode. That
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was back on December twelve, twenty
twelve, so two years in almost three
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years in will I will reveal that
lists momentarily. But I forgot to mention
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a story that's very important to this
podcast. On last week's edition of the
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pod, as we all know,
we talked about my wedding food poisoning being
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down in Disney, and I completely
forgot about telling the story that has to
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do with actual wrestling. Several years
ago, I mentioned on this podcast that
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while in Disney World, saw Kevin
Owens with his family. It was it
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was right after WrestleMania thirty three in
Orlando, and that was like mind blowing
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to me that he was there.
It was. It was badass this go
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around, which I'll start with the
first story, because I forgot to mention
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this like months ago now, doctor
Trade, It's almost probably been a year.
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It was back in November. Flew
into the Orlando International Airport. I'm
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waiting outside for my dad to pick
up my now wife and I from our
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flight. And who do I see
catching a car but aw superstar Michael Nakazawa.
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He was out there hopping in the
car and hopped in somebody's car and
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then left. And then this most
recent trip, I'm walking in Epcot for
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those that are Disney World fans.
I walked into the new Connections cafe that
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they just recently built, where there's
a Starbucks. I'm walking by the Starbucks
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line and I see a gentleman who
is probably the same height as me but
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with a much wider build, next
to a female that has purple hair that
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is holding it or pushing a stroller
and I ran into or saw Johnny Gargano,
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Candas Larrey and Baby wrestling himself in
line at Starbucks in Walt Disney World.
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So some wrestling stories for my most
recent trip, Doctor Tree, and
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even one that I failed to mention
several months ago when I saw Michael Nakazawa
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back in November. Yeah, the
Johnny Gargano Kanda's Lafe still waiting. Sammy
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actually at Walmart a few weeks ago
picked out the Cannas Lay figure that he
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wanted because of the purple hair.
So that's my attire that I look.
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The fact that you recognized Michael Nakazawa
is absurd, right, That just kind
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of shows you, like what kind
of wrestling fan Jeff Peck is. Of
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all the people, he goes,
hey, you know who I think that
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is? And then that name pops
up. It's just like, okay,
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maybe we need to cut back on
the wrestling a little bit because you should
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not be able to recognize Michael Becazowa
out of a crowd. So just putting
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that out there for you. But
I know, I know, But yeah,
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Johnny Gargano, Kandas Larey Baby wrestling
Quill Gargano and Michael Nakazawa, all
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who I've seen down in Florida here
in the last twelve months, did not
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bother the Gargano family. I don't
agree with that. Uh, they're enjoying
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Disney World with their son. It
was the Friday before Money the Bank,
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which was the next day. Then
saw Candice working Raw that Monday night,
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she was working the Fatal the Gauntlet
match for the Women's Tag Team Championship that
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the Complaint Committee ended up winning Sonya
Deville and Chelsea Green. So pretty cool.
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I'm a huge fan of Johnny Gargano
and had a little fanboy momentum switching
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gears here. So top ten wrestlers
of the SRTU era from two thousand and
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ten to present. For our two
hundredth episode back on December twelfth, twenty
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twelve, twelve, twelve twelve,
we did this episode. I think there's
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gonna be some laughs, gonna be
some groans, and then you're also gonna
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be like man that was wrestling back
then, but two hundred episodes under the
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under our Belt Doctor Trey. We
did a combined list at the time.
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Number ten was Davy Richards from Ring
of Honor wrestling at the time, So
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that just goes to show you.
I mean, we were very high on
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David Richards at the time. He
has had some accusations that are, if
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deemed true, reprehensible, and I
think it's retired from wrestling, but it's
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still training people. But we had
some high hopes for David Richards back in
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two thousand twelve that have never really
panned out. Yeah, and I think
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even that one, like I have
issues with Davy Richards personally, So it's
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like it's a weird thing. If
Eddie added me on Facebook like like a
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year or two ago, so I
was just like, okay, like I've
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done nothing but bad mouth at you
since like twenty fourteen, but okay,
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yeah, if we want to be
friends on Facebook, that's fine. So
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just just forgot how odd of a
choice that was, even though you know,
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back then, like we were really
high on not just him, but
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even just the American Wholves in general
and everything else and what they're what their
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trajectory was. So it's a it
is amazing how things can i'd say quickly
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change. But that was like eleven
years ago. Number nine, who at
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the time I believe he was working
for tena Arsse and Jeff Hardy. H
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yeah, wow, Like I mean
Jeff's I mean, this is a very
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long, very good career, just
once again had his own demons and stuff
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pop up. I would say that
if we did a Top twenty, Jeff
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Hardy still might make our top twenty. I just don't know if he would
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actually be even in our top ten. No, I don't think he's hit
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the top ten right now. Maybe
maybe top twenty. Number eight Daniel Bryan,
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who was working to at the time. Yeah, still active, still
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one of the best professional wrestlers in
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in our top ten if we did
a top ten. By the way,
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I'm not yeah, don't give away. Don't give away your list. I'm
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not gonna give mine away either.
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it wasn't it was maybe what two
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doing the Busted Open stuff and now
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Dudley Boys. That has often forgotten
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a half, borderline top five,
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had the most underrated WW career just
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as well. Yeah, like just
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for one, and then now there's
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know, you gotta remember, like
if you go back, like the first
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time when he beat John Cena,
it was because Jesse the Body of Insure
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introduced him that night too. That
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how long he's been around, because
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Jesse the Body of Venture was mentioned
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think this is going to cause a
lot of groans from w w E At
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the time, Alberto del Rio wait
I signed off on that, Yes,
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I love that your son streamed da
by the way. Yeah, he loved
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some del rio, but like arguably
maybe my most like most disliked wrestler I've
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ever covered on this show. Yeah, yeah, no, I I know.
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I think it was all afterwards that
there was a lot of dislike based
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on some choices and reports out there
by him. Number three from at the
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time Ring of Honor Wrestling. We
know him today is a different person,
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different name, but back then he
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I don't know where's gonna fall on
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gonna fall on mine. But one
of the most influential wrestlers of the last
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twelve years for US. Number two
from w w E, John Cena once
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again, wasn't that long after that
he would fully part time. I mean,
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he's probably in the top ten just
for what he's done, but really
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the last year, four or five
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for US. So but Seena's like
at that time, was still the workhorse
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of WWE. Doctor Trey. You
want to take a guess at who was
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number one. Honestly have no clue
from at the time WWE one c M
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Punk. Yeah, I mean that
was shortly after the pipe bomb everything else,
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so it makes a lot of sins
and he's still like, Look,
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the top two people are both guys
that we had to make rules about on
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this show. We could not we
couldn't talk about a heel turn We couldn't
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talk about a CM Punk return on
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had written off air just because we
would do. I think one of those
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shows you mentioned that we did hours
on was most of it was about a
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John Cena heel turn out of WrestleMania. So those two guys right there are
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are like still to this day,
are very very influential on this show over
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the over all seven other episodes.
So that was the top ten wrestlers of
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the SRTU era back on our two
hundredth episode on December twelve, twenty twelve,
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once again ten David Richards nine,
Jeff Hardy eight, Daniel Bryan seven,
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Vullie Ray six, Randy Orton five, Shamus four, Alberto del Rio
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three, Kevin Steen to John Cena
and one c M Punk. Now let's
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get to uh here we are five
hundred episodes later. Instead of doing a
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combo list, we're gonna do our
and doing ten of them. We're gonna
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narrow it down to our top five
wrestlers of the SRTU era, each of
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us doing our list. Here we
are for the seven or eight episode,
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so everything from two thousand and ten
to present, during the history the era
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of the still realta show. Um, doctor, try, would you like
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me to kick it off? Would
you like to kick it off? How
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would you like to do things?
My friend? Well, I guess I'll
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go and kick it off since I'm
fighting with Sammy right now because he's trying
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to stab a fan with a giant
stick at the same time. Okay,
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you need to take a pause to
make sure your son doesn't cut his fingers.
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He's fine, it's it's it's it's
he can't get his little fingers in
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there. But that's why he got
so excited, because you get the stick
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to actually stick in the outer frame
of the fans. So yeah, it's
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if he's not hitting me, he's
hitting something else. That's what he always
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does. Long, very true,
very true. But so I'll start off
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with my number five was our number
one five hundred episodes ago. I'm going
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with see him Punk at number five, although he had a seven year hiatus
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in the middle of it. Just
from the wrestling standpoint, the fan interaction,
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the amount of content he has created
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know, with that seven year gap, it's hard to argue his influence on
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the show. And he's also one
of you know, he's one of our
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favorite wrestlers just to watch in general. So by number five is Phil Brooks
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aka see him Punk? Wow?
I mean that just tells you the the
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impact he's hand because like you said, Doctor Trey, I mean it would
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be two years later from our two
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would not return until twenty twenty one, so seven years out of nearly fourteen
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half of our existence. He wasn't
performing in professional wrestling at the time.
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But again, I think when it
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that we've ever covered, someone that
moves the needle the most that is definitely
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Cmpunk. I mean, there's there's
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I talk about them that we get
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story, whether it was what will
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fourteen, or will see Himpunk ever
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Himpunk perform in the UFC? Is
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returning to w There was a period
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joined w backstage where it was like, man, is he coming back?
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And then the eventual return, his
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then the brawl out, the injuries, the controversy, the dirt cheats,
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whether they were true or not,
the stories. There's nobody that has moved
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the needle more on this show than
Sampunk. I think the only other person
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I could really think of doctor Trey, that has moved the needle as much
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as him, and it's it's very
much like kind of touching the gravity that
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Sampunk has had is maybe John Cena
over the years. I don't think there's
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anybody else that is we've talked about
more than Sampunk that has moved the needle
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like he has. I mean,
seen has moved the needle, but kind
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of in different reasons, like it's
his charity work, it's the character,
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it's the nature of the band's nut, all the other things that have covered
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with Cmpunk whether it's the lawsuits or
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or UFC, it's it's you know, seen it. They get our attention
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for different reasons. I guess,
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been, like I said, more
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creative than anything. Um, I
just from I guess from an overall standpoint,
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it's always been cmpunk who's moved the
needle to most here in the history
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podcast. So number five for Doctor
Trey is cmpunk from AW. For me
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keeping with AW, my number five
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Chris Jericho. I think when you
look through the entire history of this show,
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I mean when we first started,
he was I believe he was.
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I believe he was World heavyweight Champion, had defeated the Undertaker and Elimination Chamber
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in twenty and ten, thanks to
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up the Wrestle Many twenty sixth match. Here he is nearly fourteen years later,
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and he's still a prominent figure in
professional wrestling, always changing his persona,
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changing his character, keeping himself fresh, keeping himself new and at all
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times, and still performing in the
ring at the highest equality. So for
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me, doctor Trey, I gave
my number five to les Champion Chris Jericho
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the o Choke coming in at Sinco. I like it. It's he was
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on my list of people. I
was considering it, and even up until
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the show started, it was kind
of like back and forth, like trying
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to find a spot for him because
you know, not only is he one
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of the greatest rustlers of all time, one of the greatest entertainers, the
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king of reinvention, all those things. I mean, he moves the needle
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like people pay attention to what he
does. You know, he's just and
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we've talked about the show like for
a long time in WB and even in
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AUW now he's the ultimate soldier.
If he's at the top of the cards,
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he's viable and people believe in him, and if he's helping elevate younger
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talent, people buy into that.
So, I mean, you look at
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some of the matches he's had in
AW with, you know, the Orange
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Cassidy's, the Darby Allen, the
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that he's worked with to help elevate
them as well. For the good of
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the companies these shows. He still
has that mindset of, Hey, whatever
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you guys need me to do,
I'm going to do. Whether it's be
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the world champion or be at the
middle or the bottom of the card,
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He's gonna do whatever it takes to
help out his employers. So great overall
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worker and one of the most entertaining
people in the history of wrestling. All
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right, Doc Trey, let's get
to number four on your list. Who
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came in a number four Top five
wrestlers of the SRTU era. So this
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is where the Jericho spot was in
my head. And I went back and
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forth between Jericho and the person I
picked at number four for one reason,
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I felt like we need an AW
person on my top five. Went back
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and forth. But one of the
things was in the history of the show,
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and we had this discussion of this
group way back when, god this
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is probably twenty fourteen, when I
was like a guest host. So my
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number four is from AW John Moxley
looking at the you know, he may
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not have been the most polarizing person, but consistency and going back to that
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conversation about we had like a four
way podcast talking about you know, the
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shield and how they would fit in
into the wrestling world, and we had
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high hopes for all three of them, and you know, Max has delivered
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for the most part. You know, he was the workhorse in WWE,
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was on he felt like he was
on every episode of Raw and SmackDown all
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the way through his time and then
coming to ADW outside of the little bit
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of time he had takeaway to go
to rehab, He's maybe one of the
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art of the most consistent wrestlers in
the world over the last ten years.
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So not to mention multiple time WWE
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his stuff in New Japan has been
great. So my number four is John
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Moxley. Yeah, great call there
by mox Um. I mean he's had
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a very impactful career in general,
which is basically from a mainstream standpoint,
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started and continued on during the entire
history of this podcast, debuting in twenty
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twelve with the Shield and then started
hitting his stride. Once they broke up.
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He became world Champion, Interconinal Champion, veered off to AW where he's
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arguably been the best AW World champion
during the promotion short history. He carries
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the banner of AW, the flag
of aw very proudly great call there,
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Doctor Trey by picking John Moxley number
four. So another aw wrestler making the
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list here on the top five Wrestlers
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Now for my number four, which
I think to most is going to be
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a surprise that they're this far back
on the top five list. But for
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me, when you look at the
I've really thought about it and it was
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like overall grand scheme of things,
like where does this person fall in there?
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They're definitely top five. You can
make a case for them. For
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number one. When we did the
ten year anniversary special, Doctor Trey named
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this person the SRTU Wrestler of the
decade the first ten years of of SRTU,
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and they had never won the Wrestler
of the Year award in the history
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of the podcast, which was badass
and justifiable because they like, we're a
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consistent top three wrestler during you know, most of our time in doing this
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podcast. So my number four wrestler
of all time here Top five Wrestlers of
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the SRTU ara Doctor Trey from the
we he started in RoHS Kevin Steen and
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he's now known today as Kevin Owens. I gave Kevin Owens a nod at
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number four. No, that's that's
a it's a great choice. And excuse
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me. We talked about it last
like all fair last week that you know,
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where do we slot a guy in
that's never won our Wrestler of the
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Year war but obviously has been a
huge part of this show, whether it's
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Jeff running into him in Disney World
or Jeff talking to his dad, Like,
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this guy's been all like all around
us the entire history of this show.
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You know, I think I've told
you before, like when I was
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planning on going to wrestling school back
in my twenties, the character in my
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head that I kind of came up
with is who the Kevin Owens character is,
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you know, like I'm not the
best shape of the world. Like
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I'm a little bit round. It's
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belly's just a little bit too big, my butts a little bit too big.
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character that, you know, the
blue collar guy that fans always kind of
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get behind him. And we've seen
it over the years, like he's just
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as good at being a villain as
he is being a good guy. So
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one of the most well rounded workers
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there, All right, doctor Crail, Let's get to number three. Who
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came at number three on your list? So number three for me is somebody
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who has won Wrestler of the Year
twice in the history of this show.
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Once again, kind of going back
in that conversation I just had about John
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Moxley, somebody that we discussed,
I guess kind of in their infancy in
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WWE. So my number three coming
in is Seth freaking Rawlins. And I
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hate saying freaking that sounds weird to
me, but anyway, Seth Freakin Rollins
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number three. Guys we talked about
with Chris Jericho, one of those guys
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that always seems to reinvent himself,
whether it's the architect in the Shield,
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whether it's you know, with um, you know, with dripple Age and
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Stephanie and and Jamie Noble and those
guys backing them up, you know,
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all the way up through you know, the the Monday Night Messiah into the
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Drip King, into this evolution that
he's in now one of the most consistent
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performers despite missing a year with the
torn acl just one of those guys like
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where it once again, wherever they
need him, whether it's top of the
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car, mail the car, in
a tag team with Kevin Owens, like,
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doesn't seem to matter what they need
him to do, he does it
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and the crowd always responds to him. So number three for me is Seth
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Frickin Rollins. Yeah, Doctor Treman, that's a great point. You know,
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he is one of the most impactful
wrestlers in the history of the show.
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And I think, just for the
sake of other conversations here, I'm
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gonna skip further dialogue here because maybe, maybe, just maybe he pops up
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again on my list as well.
Here for the top five. So number
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three, Doctor Trey, Seth Rollins
from the we my number three, that
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is. I think this is gonna
be funny because when we went through the
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top ten wrestlers of the SRTU era, doctor Trey said that this wrestler maybe
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makes the top ten and due to
recent injuries, had had probably not made
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the lists. And I kind of
laughed a little bit because he came in
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number three on my list, and
it's mister consistency up until the last year
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and a half of the back injury. But from w it's Randy Orton from
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two thousand and ten to twenty twenty
one, there was no more consistent wrestler
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in the history of this podcast in
my opinion than Randy Orton. I think
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you can make a case for Jericho, who came in number five for me,
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but there were periods of time that
Jericho was not wrestling and was,
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you know, doing the band thing
or doing the family thing, staying up
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to you know, resting the body
in the mind, and Randy Orton was
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always there, whether there was creative
that we liked, like his most recent
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run with r K bro or creative
that we didn't like his run with Legacy
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in the early stages of the podcast
or later on with the Authority with Triple
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H and Stephany McMahon. Randy Orton
has always been to me, Doctor Trey
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mister consistent. So this may be
a shock to you, becau is of
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what you said earlier on in the
podcast, but I went number three.
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I went with Randy Orton due to
his consistency in the in the history of
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the podcast. Yeah, I think
for me, just the you know,
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there's a couple of guys on my
list that have been you know, missed
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some time with some injuries and things
like that, but there there really isn't
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a more consistent wrestler during the course
of the show than Randy Orton. I
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mean, how the guys have what
Fourteen time world champion, thirteen time world
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champion. I mean, it's kind
of hard to to knock a guy,
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But for me, it was just
a little bit of the injuries that kind
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of pushed him out of my top
five. But he's actually my favorite wrestler
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to watch in the wrestling ring because
he's kind of a blend of the old
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school and the new school, and
he could have a good, like a
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really good solid match with anybody without
doing a whole lot. You know,
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they always people used to make fun
of him a little bit for like dropping
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that yeah that chin lock in the
middle of a match kind of slow everything
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down. But then you know,
we talked about a couple of weeks ago
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with uh the Brian Danielson uh uh
oh, I'm sorry, blanking um from
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preventing or okadah. Yeah, because
it was a very Randy Orton style of
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match and his influence among the younger
generation as they come to the w system
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has really felt because it was a
lot of those super indie guys that are
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super fast and in go one hundred
miles an hour. You know, they
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kind of watched the Randy Orton stuff
and they learned to slow it down.
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So, um, Randy's just the
consummate professional. Like jb Elsa said,
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like, if if you're going to
build up a pro wrestler, you usually
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end up with a guy that was
just like Randy Ortons. So it's a
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it's a very very solid picking.
Like I said, for me, it
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was just a little bit of the
injuries over the over those years, I
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kind of pushed him down just a
hair. No, totally understand which,
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by the way, so far during
all these lists, like nothing I can
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argue about from from your side of
things either. I mean, it's these
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are these are folks I felt like
we've named so far that would fall into
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a collective top ten lists. So
it'll be interesting now as we reached the
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final two if there's a lot of
similarities here with what doctor Trey and I
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come up with. So now it's
times you get to number two Doctor Trey,
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who was number two on your list
for top five wrestlers of the SRTU
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era. Well, number two for
me is somebody we kind of already discussed,
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maybe a little high on my list
because you thought he was a little
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low on yours. But my number
two is the former Kevin Stein now known
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as Kevin Owens from WWE. Like, for me, when we talk about
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consistency over the course of this show, like there are very few people that
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are as consistent as Kevin Owens,
whether it was his time and Ring of
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Honor, whether it's Hyman WWE,
like, he's always been in our top
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five. It seemed like every single
year that this show has been on the
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air. And then you look at
you know, like what he's done in
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ww with multiple world title reigns or
Kandel title United States out now with the
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tag team titles. He's one of
those guys as always right there near the
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top of the card. And not
to mention, he's the guy that w
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W hands selected to have him match
with Stone Cold Steve Austin. So when
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you look at all those things going
in factoring in one of the best talkers
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in wrestling, one of the best
heels when he's a heel, really really
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good baby face, I would say
his heel works a little bit better than
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baby Face, but outside of that, like it's this hard and knocker guy
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that's just as consistent as Kevin Owens
has been over the last you know,
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fourteen years. So my number two
is Kevin Owens. Yeah, kay,
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hit on on that at all.
We all know mine feelings about Kevin Owens.
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Spoke about him this moment ago when
I had him at number four,
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But I feel like I could have
had him number three. I could have
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had him number two. I could
have had him number one on mind list
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as well. And we just spoke
about consistency with Randy Orton and doct Trey.
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You hit it on the head.
Kevin Owens has had the same consistency
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as well since two thousand and ten, since we started this podcast, when
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he was on the rise in ROH
became our OH World Champion, got signed
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by We, became NXT Champion,
went over to the main rosters, feuding
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with John Cena, becomes United States
Champion, Intercontinental Champions, wins the Universal
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Championship. He's had some injury bugs, there's been times where creative has not
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been that great, but overall,
the creative, I don't know thirteen out
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of fourteen years I'm doing this podcast, probably Kevin Owens is is a top
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five wrestler each one of those years, so can't hit on that. Number
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two on Doctor Trey's list is Kevin
Owens from We and Now. My number
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two, which could be number one
on Doctor Trey's list, could be on
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number one on most people's list,
but for me, my number two is
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the current Head of the Table,
the Tribal Chief one Roman Reigns. It
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was tough of where I could put
him in on this list because the last
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three years have in some of the
best three years of professional wrestling I've seen
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in sometime some of the best runs
I've ever seen to this day in twenty
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twenty three. He's been on top
since twenty twenty. There's never been a
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time where I've been like tired of
him at all. His stuff is captivating,
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it's amazing to watch on television.
It's some of the best again and
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creative I've ever seen. Over a
thousand days as a world champion in today's
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modern era is nothing to sneeze at. I think the only drawback from him
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is up until this Tribal Chief,
Head of the Table bloodline run Roman Reigns
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was kind of mediocre, Like he
was great as an inn ring performer,
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but his character was lacking. It
was like, you know, the way
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that John Cena was for most of
his career until the end when we saw
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John Cena like really let it fly
as an in ring performer. He wasn't
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jammed down our throats as the top
guy, and we were able to start
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to enjoy Roman Reign John Cena back
then. And that's how I feel like
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lately with Roman Reigns. They finally
leaned into him being a heel and it's
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been amazing. It's like Hollywood Hogan
esque when in w CW when it was
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like ninety six to ninety nine and
it was just time to turn the baby
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face heel and let's see what they
can do. And this character, this
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iteration of Roman Reigins, is one
of the best characters of all time.
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This Roman Reigns, this inner iteration, this character of Roman Reigins is the
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one that we're going to remember the
most. We will not remember the big
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Dog as much or the shield as
much. It's going to be the tribal
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chief, it's going to be the
head of the table, the land the
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island of relevancy, the head of
that all that being Roman reigns. So
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for me, Doctor Trey, I
have him number two on my list,
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so I'll kind of skip my overview
because when it comes to my number one,
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it's the same guy. It's the
tribal chief head a table. Roman
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reigns. And for the things that
you said, I don't knock him as
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much for the John Cena version of
him that you were alluding to, Like,
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I don't really knock him as badly, and I'm not saying badly is
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in you know, you you over
or you underrated him, But it's the
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last three years has almost made up
for the first seven. Um Like this
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is the best performance from a professional
wrestler that I've seen, Like the Hogan
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of Reference is fantastic, but just
I mean, this is Rick Flair four
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horsemanesque. This is the kind of
stuff that when you are trying to be
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a heel and model yourself, like
he gets the reaction that's positive and then
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gets booted out of the building within
the thirty seconds of each other, Like
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it's it's it's he constantly now has
the crowd in the palm of his hand
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and the fact that he's helped elevate
you know, other people around him.
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Uh, not to mention you know, the USO and solo. Everything else
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he's brought to the table over the
last three years is something we haven't seen
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in decades. I mean, this
is a once in a generation performance he's
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pulling off right now. So and
then even before that, yeah, the
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character wasn't great, but the consistency
of being in the ring always be the
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top of the card a guy at
least give them credit for that as well.
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So for me, my number one
is Roman Rains, So you go,
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Number one on doctor Trace list is
the one and only Roman Rains coming
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in number two on mine. My
number one wrestler of the SRTU era is
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the same guy that I named as
the SRTU Wrestler of the Decade back at
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our ten Years special in twenty twenty, a year that we obviously loved and
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adored in twenty twenty, and that
is one Seth Rollins. I won't call
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him Seth freakin Rollins. I've always
known him as Seth Rollins. Earned all
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this so debuting in twenty twelve from
a w E standpoint, but even going
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back further to the beginning of the
show, he had just come off of
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his run as ROH World Champion.
I think he left in the fall of
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two thousand and nine, maybe fall
of two thousand and ten. I can't
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seem to remember right now, but
I think it was fall of two thousand
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and ten. He had become World
Champion in two thousand and ten, so
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even when we first started, he
was ROH World Champion, went over wa
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The run with the Shield is obviously
electric in historic when they branched off and
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he became kind of the guy coming
out of that group, initially getting the
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run with the authority, getting the
run as a world champion. He was
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a double champion at one point in
United States and World Champion. He's feuding
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with John Cena. He had one
of the greatest moments in the history of
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the podcast when he cashed in a
WrestleMania. It was one of the best
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WrestleManias we've ever covered in the podcast
as well. I mean, and that
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was a lot because of seth rownds
a match at the year can in it
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for each year grant him when they
turned him baby face towards the later part
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of twenty eighteen nineteen he started to
get stale, and then they did the
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right move by changing him to a
heel, and the heel run that he
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had was really really good as the
Messiah, that was a great run.
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And then you kind of saw him
become a baby face again organically because the
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fans really enjoyed watching him. And
I feel like it's kind of been like
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the cherry on top of everything lately. Is this current run he's had as
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a baby face the last two years, last two three years, and now
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as a world the first of this
iteration of the World havyweight Championship. Running
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with with that title presently has been
a joy to watch. He wants to
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be the workhorse champion. I went
back and forth basically if I would go
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with Roman Reigns or seth Rons.
I think if you ask me the way
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that they're going right now, what
will be a year from now. It's
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very well possible that it flip flops
where Roman Rains is one, Rawlins is
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two, or it could remain the
same. I just feel like for me,
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in the history of this podcast,
Rawlins and Rains have been some of
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the upper echelon in the history of
this pod. We've watched their careers blossom
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and grow into who they've become and
who they are nowadays. So for me,
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Doctor Trey, I went with Seth
Rons number one on my list top
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five wrestler of the SRTU era.
Yeah, see, my top three almost
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were interchangeable, Like it was that
close between Rains Rawlins and like those three
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guys to be are the most influential
people on us as far as the history
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of this show, I can't argue
Seth rollinsby number one because literally I said,
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it was like splitting hairs between those
guys. For me, it's funny
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because, like I know we did
the we played like was a lad two
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years ago or like at the pandemic
time. We put out all the old
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episodes and one of my favorite ones, like I mentioned earlier, was that
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podcast the four of us did.
It was like it was you be Bret
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somebody else I think Benny Lopez,
Benny Lopez and we were talking about the
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shield and where we thought they were
gonna go. And it was funny because
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I was the one guy that was
kind of on Seth Rollins bandwagon and everybody
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else was on the Dean Ambrose and
Roman Range bandwagon. And to see where
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we're at now and see that all
three of those guys have had amazing Hall
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of Fame worthy careers. Ull I
mean, god, I mean, I
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can't mean, I couldn't even tell
you how many World championships between all three
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of those guys. Just like for
a group to come in together and then
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break out on their own and set
such a high bar where none of them
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are the Marty Janetti, you know, none of them are the ten EVIASI
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Junior, They're all you know worthy
of praise is incredible. So and then
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like like I mentioned, was like
the evolution of the character, always staying
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fresh, always save the head of
the curve, not to mention landing one
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of those beautiful women in the world
to you know, and Becky Lynch to
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be his wife. The guys had
a great run, so kudos to him.
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And like I said, it's it's
impossible to argue with Seth being your
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number one. And I think when
you look at both of our lists from
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a thousand and foot view, like
I could make a case of putting Kevin
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Owens in my top three, and
then you could literally have or you and
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I both while different spots had Rollins, Owens reigns in our top threes each.
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I mean I had him at number
four, you had him at number
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two. It's it's I just feel
like, while there were some differences in
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our lists, I think when you
look at this overall, it's very well
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possible that every person that we named, even the guys that weren't named the
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same that we both didn't have in
our top five lists, you can make
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a case would fall into that top
ten wrestlers of the srt RA overall.
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Yeah, by the way, we
ever do that again. I'm pretty sure
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Davy Richards will not be in our
top twenty. No, neither while Alberto
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del Rio. But yeah, when
you look at like anybody listening to show,
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like I mean, like right now
we're sitting here and Samy's names,
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one of the most influential guys on
both of us not in our top five.
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He probably would kind of about nine
or ten for both of us in
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the history of this show. But
you know, there are just certain guys
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that we've always been fans of and
keeps a ton of praise on, and
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it just kind of shows that you
can kind of move these guys around.
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And I would say probably both your
top five my top five would be in
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our top tens, respectively on each
side, and then you know, a
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few more guys ad in there.
But like it's basically been kind of these
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three guys above everybody else outside of
aj aj Styles. You know, I
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think he won the Rust of the
Year twice for US didn't make our top
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five. Yeah, so's it's a
very interesting list that we have. When
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you look at like Rust, you
know, we could have put you know,
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Becky in there, Charlotte in there
as well. I went back and
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forth like adding new usos into my
list just because of their tag team work
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over the history of this show,
which is probably greater than anybody else's.
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So like there's a lot of people
that you could kind of push. I
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mean, even if we did a
top ten, Jeff at eleven, twelve,
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and thirteen could be argued to be
in the top ten as well.
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Yeah, so, great lists,
great discussion here once again, Doctor Trey's
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list number five, Cmpunk number four, John Moxley number three, Seth Rollins
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number two, Kevin Owens number one, Roman Reigns My list number five,
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Chris Jericho number four, Kevin Owens
number three, Randy Or number two,
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Roman reigns and number one seth rollins. So our top five rushes are the
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sr TU error. For the seven
hundredth episode of this podcast, out Trey
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is officially in the books. My
friend, Yeah, are we gonna get
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it like episode fourteen hundred. Yeah, maybe I'll I'm definitely gonna keep this
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list so we can always revert back
to. I had to go through like
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my old notes to find that top
ten wrestlers of srt ER from the two
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hundreth episode, and I've kept my
notes from like important episodes over the years,
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so I was lucky to find that. So that was cool to look
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back and see how and where we
came from nearly eleven years ago. For
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the two hundredth episode of SRTU,
so five hundred episodes ago. Um,
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with that set, let's close up
shop on episode number seven hundred, let's
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get a couple of plugs and sponsored
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is going on the wonderful world of
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like Jeff said, you can find
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You will not find me on threads
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Thank you for making us reach this
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to everybody who's been here for seven
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and a sincere thanks Dam as well
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hundred straight weeks. Nothing to sneeze
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this podcast every single week for nearly
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this part of your week. Thank
you for making us part of anything that
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you uh and everything you could potentially
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your support, and until next week
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the seven hundredth time. This is
the shopping I suppose that throughout pulls it
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out like get the shoes yard,
it'll beware looking then listen jomp, welcome
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to the less time. I'm fair, got a line on you too,
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don't fag well, it's always be
fair. At who's checking? He even
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knows where the hipp has, knows
that he really wanted he wants there sitting
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over there, supports that be underwear, who start is banding the hand,
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all your pretenders where you check the
snake surprisingly had a snake, all the
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water had paint on his face,
has Jim dugging and a true by four.
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But with style like this man,
you don't need no more. Got
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a lot of friends, I got
a lot of falls. Quicker than the
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booth read, I'll be bouncing nothing
bot lots of people talking. You gotta
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tell you you want to me that? Whoa? Who was that sitting over
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there sporting nothing underwear? Who is
beding the hand? Are your pretenders?
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Will shine the flame crack Shilba be
struck by lighting on the drive the finus
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car it dies to find the dynam
didn't try to say that. Don't matter
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which country. Masson says, by
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out all getting bud It's limousine listening
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nothing, just dealings a medically only
one who's that day spoke in that thing
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on the wind holds the hair while
you have to say where you better be
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a whoa whoa? Come I say
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