Was WWE Backlash better than WrestleMania 39? | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #691 – 5/11/23

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It's still welcome, everybody. Welcome
to this week's NESI in the So Real

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Dust Show, episode number six hundred
ninety one, eleven twenty three. This

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your w backlashing week cap and review
edition of ass Us two weeks. I

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am one after Shelfer. I am
going to every single week to I oh

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so oly, Doctor Trey Franklin,
Doctor Trey. Everybody wants to know from

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last week, how are you doing
after Sammy threw a bullet your head?

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My friend? So? Uh,
concussion number four crap? I don't,

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I don't. I don't really know
if it was an actual concussion, but

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you know, the uh, you
know, the old school football symptoms are

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there, like the bell was wrong. I saw tweedy birds flapping around.

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Vince McMahon's mustache haunted my dreams that
night, So I don't really know if

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there's a concussion or a wrestling concussion
or just uh, just all the stress

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from being a toddler parents and doing
a podcast for almost gosh started almost a

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decade and a half. Now,
it feels like just kind of rolled into

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one thing. But luckily I was
already bald, so I didn't lose any

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hair from it. So no shaving
going into it and uh. Sammy later

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put out a written apology on his
Twitter feed say sorry he was How old

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is Sammy again? Pour? Okay, okay um, And just so everybody's

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aware, out of all the six
hundred ninety one episodes we've recorded SRTU,

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you've been on probably, geez,
maybe five hundred ninety six hundred episodes at

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this point, somewhere around those.
And in the history of the show,

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you've been and hit, beat up, slapped, bull thrown at you twice

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by Sammy. A slap it was
a couple of months ago, a bull

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throw last week. I was going
through the records because you know me,

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I'd like to keep track of all
of our records. I don't recall anyone

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else hitting you during a recording.
Can you Can you confirm or deny not

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during a recording. I have been
hit pre and post okay recordings, but

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that's also why I have an X
wife. Fair never been allegedly allegedly.

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Uh. We had the one police
altercation yes or moments, one of my

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favorite sound bites of all time,
and I recorded in unsavory locations where I

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feared for my life at times as
well that's that's been a while, right,

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thank god? Yes, Okay,
I mean it's been I mean it

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says I mean basic since I'd stopped
traveling for the most part, like the

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last few years, you know,
being more of a regional podcaster, some

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not on the road as much.
But yeah, there were some times that

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we I recorded. We recorded like
the middle of the night, and I'd

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be like in the middle of a
shopping center at a really bad area of

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town, with like the back door
to the business open and just going,

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yeah, if there's any weird noise, I don't think. I think we

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did a show once and then I
was inside of the store. I ended,

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We ended the podcast in thirty five
minutes later, I nearly peed myself

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because two police officers came walking in
the back door of the store because they

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were just curious as to why the
lights were on, and I didn't see

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them walk in, and Auxteria was
turned around and saw dark clothes and hinting

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guns and nearly peed myself over.
Yeah. I don't think you've ever told

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that story. That's the first time
hearing on it. Um. Yeah,

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that was that was quite and it
was, like I said, it was

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just one of those weird thing so
there's like life happens and like, oh

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yeah, it kind of goes into
the background, Like I hadn't thought about

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that in ten years probably, And
we've recorded this podcast nearly at every hour,

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like midnight, one am. There
was a period of time we were

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doing it like at four and five
am, like legitimately, like I was

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coming off of work and you were
getting up four work and we were doing

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that run there from like four to
five am. Like we've I think we've

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probably recorded this podcast nearly every hour
in a twenty four hour time period.

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Yeah, I don't think we've ever
done like nine am, like like first

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thing in the morning, but from
about noon until about four am, like

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we've hit almost every I think pretty
much every time slot in there at some

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point. Yeah, there's been times
where it's been like one am, two

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am, and I have no idea
what we're talking about and what we're even

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saying. And I think you probably
would feel the same way, Like it's

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the closest thing to do in a
podcast drunk, would be like doing it

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at the two am, which we've
done in the past. Yeah, So

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the leaderboard still Sammy has the lead
two oh in beating up Doctor Trey durn

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the recording of the podcast. So
I guess congratulations to him, small big.

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I think when he gets old enough, when he gets ready for his

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first job and it says like special
skills, it will say elder abuse.

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Okay, and there's recordings now,
Yeah, caregiver is out of the mix

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for his first job. But I'm
pretty sure you know McDonald's still in the

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mix. Okay, good, good, good, Yeah, more on that.

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We'll keep an eye on it here
in the coming years of Sammy's LinkedIn

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profile. Let's get into a Doctor
Trey. Doctor Trey W Backlash this past

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Saturday from Colosso del Puerto Rico and
San Juan, Puerto Rico. Two nights

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SmackDown and Backlash on Saturday night.
Let's get to the first match on the

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card here, Bianco bell Air defeats
Eo Sky to retain the dew Raw Women's

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Championship. You and I both had
Bianco bell Air as the victor. What

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a match, breakout main roster performance
for Eo Sky back and forth was so

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good. I loved, loved,
loved this match, barely costing Eo the

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match when the field interference could be
leading towards the Damn Control split soon and

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I think that this is a match
that should be in contention and in discussion

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for a Match of the Year candidate. The crowd, the match itself,

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loved this match. Doctor try Bianca
Belair defeating EO Sky. Yeah, and

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so a couple of my notes on
this one. This was you know,

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we read those reports about this was
the first true triple H pay per view

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since taking over coming Wrenst. For
me, there were already some plans in

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place. This was kind of the
first true pay per view, and then

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this match kind of showcase it because
EO is one of his projects in NXT.

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She gets the bump kind of out
of nowhere to become the number one

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contender and has a tremendous match in
showcase what makes EO great. I don't

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know about you, but like listening
to the crowd, it wasn't ECW One

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Night Stand and Sena van Dam but
it kind of it was in that vein.

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It was almost like the old Bret
Hart in Canada type matches when he

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was a heel, because I mean
that was almost John Cena getting booed out

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of the building for Bianco Bellair type
moment and she handled it very well.

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But yeah, it was a fantastic
match. I just will you matchical that

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year? Kid? Do you put
this above Riha and Charlotte at WrestleMania though,

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So, I'm having a tough time
with that. It's funny that you

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say that, and maybe this will
lead it to more discussion later on regards

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to backlash. But people are comparing
this to like a wrestle Mania type card

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up and down show, up and
down matches up and down. I don't

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know, to be honest with you
as it stands right now, Like Riah,

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Ripley, Charlotte, gun Through,
Shamis, Drew McIntyre, Bianco,

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Bellair, EO Sky are some of
my favorite matches this year? Those the

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ones that I've earmarked, And I
don't know out of those three right now,

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which one I would say is my
match to the year right now?

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And I know this is like a
total radio like teaser for the last show

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of the year, But like legitimately
Doctor Trey, I don't know of those

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three matches because right I mean all
three of those matches were phenomenal. I

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mean they were so much fun to
watch, great storytelling, great crowd,

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great back and forth. Loved every
second of those matches. I don't think

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you could go wrong with picking either
one. But right now I'm having a

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tough time with at least those three
matches. Yeah, I think all three

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of those matches are great matches.
I think I might. It's weird.

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I don't know about you, but
I have Charlotte and Bianca in my mind

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like position in the same role,
where like they have great matches with whoever

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they're working with. I just don't
know if I truly love them where I

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think with in both those cases,
it was like star making performances, you

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know, one for Rhea, one
for EO. And maybe that's why I

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just think the physicality of rein Charlotte
might give it the nods. Same with

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you know, Gunther, Shamus and
Drew. But yeah, to kick off

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this show and that crowd and once
again, the crowd really helped because I

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mean from the start of that I
mean from the start of that match,

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that crowd was on fire and they
kept their energy all the way through the

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show. So having a great crowd
also helps, you know, bump up

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some really great matches as well.
You said a lot of things there,

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the first being like Bianca Belair and
Charlotte being the match you know, the

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people that helped make people. Um, I would argue that heading into WrestleMania

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this year, I mean Riha was
already a made talent, right, Like

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she was already a women's champion,
had already won a championship at WrestleMania,

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defended a championship at WrestleMania like she
was there, and the Charlotte match like

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put her in that upper tier echelon
with with very few women wrestlers in all

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professional wrestling. The Bianca Eo match, like anybody who watched NXC during the

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Black and Gold era when Eo Sky
was there knew what she was capable of

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doing and where she should be.
But for the most part, for since

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she came up on the main roster
and at Summer Slam twenty twenty two,

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she's been regulated to behind the scenes
type character with a supporting character with Bailey

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and a tag team, and you've
forgot how good she was as a main

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roster star, and that was like, okay, so he she's we don't

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understand why she's in this match,
right, I mean, she she's breaking

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out a little bits leading to a
storyline, it's it's it's interesting. Then

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you watched the match and you're like, oh, okay, she's for anybody

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who did not know EO Sky and
nxc oh, she's got something and this

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is someone that can be a women's
champion in three to six months, which

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if you asked me that three months
ago, three days ago, three weeks

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ago, I wouldn't think she would
be a women's champion in twenty twenty three

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by the way that she was being
booked and handled on the main roster.

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So I think it's different there the
crowds. I think this is going to

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be a theme throughout, but I
mean, let's get out of the way

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now, doctor Trey. This crowd
on Friday night on Saturday Night was amazing.

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One of the best crowds I have
seen during a wrestling show in sometime.

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These places that don't get w w
WEE live shows all that much are

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knocking it out of the park.
This shows you how like spoiled wrestling fans

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are. Because yeah, there's the
normal territories in the US that do really

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well. New York, Boston,
LA does well at times as Chicago,

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but we all know. But I
mean, look at Friday and Saturday,

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amazing crowd. Monday's Raw one of
the worst crowds I've ever seen that.

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And coming off of Friday and Saturday
and watching what I watched on Raw,

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it was like, are these people
awake? Jacksonville, Like you're supposed to

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be the home of aw Like,
I get it, it's a show,

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but man, they stunk. They
were terrible. It was bad. But

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San Juan, Puerto Rico, I
read a report that WWE talents want backlash

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in San Juan every year. I
could not agree more. I mean,

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wow, this is like we saw
it with San Juan over the weekend.

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We saw it back at Clash at
the Castle in the UK back in September.

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I fully expect we'll see the same
thing at all in in August for

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a WUS debut in the UK.
Like these places that normally don't get WWE

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shows are just completely like beating w
US fans right now. Wow, what

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a great crowd that was. Yeah, And I love what people ask when

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people talk about like, well,
I don't know why w t B is

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trying to go into other markets,
It's like because the crowds are rabid.

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I mean, I mean, I
don't even I'm waiting to see what the

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reports are on the actual merch sales
from backlash, because he was like,

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I mean the crush, I mean, seventeen to eighteen thousand people, not

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a huge crowd by WW typical pay
per view standards, because you know Summer

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Slams with fifty sixty eighty thousand people, you know, the big events.

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But for seventeen thousand people's that,
rabbid And I don't know why you like.

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For me, one of the little
idiosyncrasy things I enjoyed the most was

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the crowd counting in Spanish. Yeah, yeah, like the near falls,

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oh you know, or the corner
punches, like little stuff like that.

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I'm like, this is fantastic,
and they even I don't. And even

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the entry ramp. The way the
interest was set up, it had a

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very old school kind of ECW vibe, like it didn't have the big like

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the way it was positioned, the
smoke and the lighting, it just looked

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a little bit throwback. And then
you still had kind of the long interest

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way like you have at the bigger
shows. Like it was just a really

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cool setup vibe. And yeah,
if they go back to Puerto Rico,

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every I like like, I loved
it that. It was just it was

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just great And I just hope they
don't like oversat treate A Market and go,

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hey, so like once a year, we'll do it. I mean,

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anytime you do it, anytime you
wait eighteen years or fifteen years or

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twelve years to get to a blaze, the crowd's gonna be hot. Uh,

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just don't blow up a barket,
I guess yeah, no, hey,

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I think I think San Juan earned
the right to be like a regular

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like show. I mean, that
was one of the best SmackDown vibes I've

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had a long time watching the show. I mean, I mean, it

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just felt like it was a two
night premium live event type show SmackDown and

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obviously backlash. I loved it.
Great job, Thank you, San Juan.

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Um Talking about star making matches,
Seth Freaking Rollins defeats Omas, we

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both had Seth Freakin Rollins win this
match. Omas in this match really showcase

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that he's becoming a good quote big
man wrestler. It's the best match I've

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seen out him in his wrestling career. The top Rope Stop was a really

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cool, finish, solid match for
little to no build up and meaning that

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led to led to it happening in
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that the W officials felt the same
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I mean, his gear looked very
Kevin Nash esque. I don't know

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if he's been watching Kevin Nash esque
matches. There were some Kevin Nash type

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spots in there. I think he
did a snake eyes. Um. Great

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match, Great match by Omas,
doctor try. I really enjoyed it.

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Seth freak and Rollins getting the victory. He actually did the undertaker spot with

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the snake eyes into the boot and
that's that's true. Yeah. Wow,

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that's a great point. So um
and I got that vibe as well.

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And you know, a triple agent
charge. Oh dear lord, never mind,

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my assault is back in the room
now. UM. So if you

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hear me crying, you know why
UM tapped the mike. If you need

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assistance or anybody, call the cops. Don't forgret me like that kid anyway.

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So, you know, a triple
being charged, I mean, maybe

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he is watching Kevin Nash because maybe
he's getting one on one you know,

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advice from a guy like Kevin Nash
taker. You know, it would be

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there to help him out. But
he worked that match like there's been times

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in the past when he's thrown like
the shoulder tackles or the clotheslines, and

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he seems very timid, like he's
afraid of hurting the person he's wrestling.

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He didn't have that in saying it
was very very much deliberate, meticulous and

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looked impactful. Um. And then
the way he sold like that top row

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stop, he sold it on his
head like he really front bumped for it

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and and it looked killer And I
love the way and the fact that he

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kicked out of a couple of curb
stomps to lead to that stop was fantastic

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as well because it just showed how
much it takes him. Now, there's

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a much better performance for for this
match than it was at wrestle Mania.

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Yeah, I mean this is a
much better Did did you just get kidnapped?

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We lost you there for a second. No, He's just like literally

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like he wanted to say hi to
you. Oh hey, Sammy, what's

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up? Man? You say hi? Yeah? Say hi? Sr tu

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Okay, all right, let's go
find like I'm gonna put you on mute

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so you talk about the show Jeff, I'm gonna take him back to his

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ball. Okay, Yeah, I
didn't know what was going on there.

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We had lost Doctor Trey for a
second. He was he was like rolling

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with Omas and then I didn't know
if he got kidnapped again. You know

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what just happened, folks. So
um, but yeah, great breakout performance

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for Omas. Really enjoyed seeing him
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And I was kind of on the
fence about him because we've seen this

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happen for whether it be great Collie, Um. You know, these big

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men don't really pan out and and
Omas looks like he he will and can,

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and that's pretty exciting because he had
a really good match with Seth freaking

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Rollins and nobody will. We'll have
credit to Seth, but Omas was just

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an equal dance parts partner as well
and did his job in the ring.

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Would love to see those two go
out again. It was a great match.

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Next match here is Austin Theory defeating
Bobby Lashly and Bronze Reading a trouble

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threat match to retain the debitu United
States Championship. I had Bobby Lashly,

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Doctor Trede, Austin Theory. The
match was a little too short for my

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liking, but still good. The
finish is really good for a quote chicken

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shit heel finish for Austin Theories character, though doctor Trey Austin Theory retains.

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Yeah, you know, it was
a solid match. I'm with you.

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I wish it had a little bit
more, a little bit of meat on

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the bone, so I speaking,
especially when you got a guy like Bronson

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read that you're still trying to build
up. I mean, Lash is already

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kind of established against Theory at this
point is also well established. I Kin

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always bronze and had a little bit
more dominance during the match. But there

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was some really cool like transition moments. I know, there was the excud,

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the spot where Brown three hit the
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like some of these was really cool. But you know, after you're going

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from bianc AEO and how good Seth
and O Moss was. I was kind

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of hoping this would have a little
bit more, but the finish worked really

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well for the Theory character moving forward, and uh, you know, to

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see what they do on SmackDown is
Friday with two of these guys being in

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the title tournament to kind of see
who's going to come out and challenge,

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you know, for the world championship. Here at a couple or nine a

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champion. That's true. I tweeted
this out on Wednesday, but let me

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say this again, speaking of that
title tournament. On Friday nights, SmackDown,

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Edge Versus AJ Styles Versus Ray Mysterio
in a triple threat match is taking

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place on SmackDown. Like I threw
it out there, I was like,

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this is one of the most promoted, like the biggest, one of the

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biggest promoted matches of all time.
So I don't know when we'll talk about

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it again, but I mean again, Edge Versus AJ Styles Versus Ray Mysterio

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is taking place on SmackDown for free
television. Yeah, I mean it's what

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two Hall of aimers and a guy
that should be I mean, if we're

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if we're inducting Curb performers in the
Hall of Fames, AJ's on that list

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as well. So and we've seen
AJ and Edge before, we've seen Edge

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and Ray. We really have never
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really looking forward to seeing how that
one goes, because on paper, it

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should it should be fantastic. It's
just that it's also on free TV SID

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I hope they don't like do like
a ten minute match and then they'll finish

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hey and make a commercial free for
the first three minutes. So that's my

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thoughts. Getting back to Backlash,
re Ripley defeats Selena Vega to retain the

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debt we SmackDown One's Championship. We
both had regain the victory. I was

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so genuinely happy for the highly emotional
Selena Vega getting the opportunity to perform in

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Puerto Rico. I did like the
offense line was able to get in before

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Rea took over and finish her off
that pop that like just overall love that

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she was getting was so wild.
I mean, I've never felt so good

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for a wrestler like that, and
so like you could just feel it through

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the television stream Like that was so
cool for Zelina Vega, even in a

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loss, came out as a bigger
superstar than she was going into it.

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Re Ripley gets the victory and retains
Doctor Trey. Yeah. I thought it

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was a really good performance for Zelina
because on paper, this should have been,

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you know, a five minute squash
match. Because we've seen these two

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square from the past and that's what's
been and for Zelina to get that reaction

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and the genuine emotion, I mean, it was really goosebump type moment just

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watching it through TV. And you
know, we talked about this show a

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lot that emotion is transferable, not
just through a crowd, but through a

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television. We know when somebody's happy, we can tell when somebody's really feeling

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it. We can tell when somebody's
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We saw that at back, like
with Zelina, I saw some people

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say that Zelina should have won the
match, and I'm like, yep,

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those are why not everybody can be
a booker, because like you said,

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she came out of the match like
a bigger star than what she was going

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into it. And you're also not
going to short change a rereally title run

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one month in, so I thought
the way that was put together was the

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best for both ladies to be out
of that match. Next matches, Bad

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Bunny defeated Damien Precine San Juan Street
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the victory. Enjoyable and a very
entertaining match, the spots and chances Bad

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Bunny will take his a major musical
act is pretty insane. He almost forget

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it times that he's an actual not
an actual wrestler. Loved the cameo spots

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with Savio Vega and Carlito. Those
were really well done and fun. With

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the match goo like twenty thirty minutes
and it was just a fun and entertaining

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match. Props a Bad Bunny.
I had no idea who he was when

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he got into involved with wrestling.
I think he sang the Booker t song

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at Survivor Series twenty twenty, and
then that led to him doing some suffer

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wrestling Aney thirty seven. I know
the name, no clue about his music.

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Still, I went and sit there
and say that, yeah, I've

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been downloading his music afterwards, but
ton of respect for the guy. What

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a fun, entertaining match as Bad
Bunny defeats Damien Priest, I think the

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crowd was singing his song more than
they sang Seth Rollins true like. And

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I had never heard that song,
and I had read that he was going

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to debut a new song for Backlash, and I'm like, all right,

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I like the beat it's got some
sing along parts. All right, even

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though I don't understand I don't speak
Spanish, the the is it was catchy

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and I'm good with it. Um. By the way, I did call

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the Carlito spot last week, did
you I forgot about that? That's awesome.

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Yeah, um so I just figured, hey, if their important,

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I said, subway for the Cologne
family, whether it's primo epico, you

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did say that. I do remember
that now, yep, props, props.

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Yeah, but um no, it
was. It was a great match

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and really really fun and and I'm
like with you, I didn't know who

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Bad Bunny was. All I had
seen him was like, who's this guy

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doing these Corona commercials with snoogog And
all of a sudden, now he's on

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WTV and I'm like, all right, this this can't be a great But

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I mean, just like Logan Paul, I'm not shocked at anything thing he

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does now, like he's shown that
he can be in the spotlight and perform

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up to the level it needs to
be performed at. So I saw some

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people on Twitter telling me like,
oh, I hate how Damian Priest takes

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kendo shots because he was like wincing
before it got there and I'm like,

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yeah, you've never been hit the
kendo stick. Like, if you have,

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you know how bad it hurts.
So yeah, you're especially if somebody

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who quote unquote is maybe not fully
trained. Uh it's swinging the kendo stick.

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Yeah, it's gonna hurts and you're
gonna feel them for days. But

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yeah, like the whole match was
great, the ending was great. Like

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I really that was one of those
like those matches where like it's up there

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with for gimmick matches of recent memory
for some celebrities, it's up there with

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the Johnny Knox will Sami. He's
a match from WrestleMania thirty eight. Yeah,

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that's a good comparison there. So
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Yeah, very entertaining, very entertaining
STUFFI bad Bunny defeated Damien Priest cinemost

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instances. I don't like to see
a guy who's a world championship content ender

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take an owl to an outsider,
which I don't love that fact, but

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it makes sense even given the dynamic
of the match in the street fight.

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But again, similar to Omas's performance
with Seth Rollins, reports came out the

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next day that is now looking at
Damian Priest as a main eleven, main

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event level talent and I could not
disagree more. I mean, what a

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performance from from Damian Priest to make
him look good. Next match, here's

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the Bloodline defeeding Matt Riddle, Kevin
Owens, the Sammy Zane and a six

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man tag team match. I had
Riddle, Owens and Zane dot Trey the

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Bloodline. Great six man tag match, lots of great in ring action for

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the storyline development, The Jay Uso
solo Skoo stuff was great and I can't

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wait to see where the story goes
with The Romans return on Friday Night SmackDown

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tomorrow night, so that should be
a lot of fun. Bloodline gets the

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victory Doctor Trey. This was another
solid match. Yeah, it was really

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solid. The solo Jay sounds pretty
good. I like that Riddles the fall

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guys, so it doesn't hurt Sammy
and Kevin. Although I always feel bad

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for Riddle of times because like,
all right, could he win a match

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against anybody in the Bloodline at any
point on a big stage, because we

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see him lose the Roman. Now
this one is like all right, I

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get it, but you know,
the fans love Matt Riddle I'm still pretty

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positive about him, but you know, it is what it is. But

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for a six man tag, it
was a really really good match, and

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this also gave us some really good
ebbs and flows because you needed that dip.

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You couldn't go from Bad Buddy Damian
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so you needed that drop down moment
to kind of get the crowd reamped back

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up for the actual main event,
although they kept saying Bad Bunny and Damian

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Priests is the main event, even
though it was next to next to last.

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Yeah, it was a double main
event, which you know, these

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matches in the middle, right,
they usually have a tough act to follow,

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especially after a really fun match with
Bad Bunny and Damian Priests. But

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I mean, great point by you. I think this is one of those

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very few instances where it did not
feel like the show missed a step,

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Like there was like that dead time, which is pretty cool. Rarely do

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you see that, I mean,
And honestly, anytime you put Samy's Sammy's

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I kind of thought, as much
as I love seeing him and Kevin together,

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I kind of thought Sammy zane popularity
might dip a little bit. But

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once again, since that music again, that crowd was super behind him,

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and then also the fact that he
came out last on his team shows you

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where wid still views him in their
becking order. Yeah. No, great,

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great overall. I mean it's it's
weird because now the storyline is perpetually

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over with Kevin and Sammy and Matt
Riddle because they're all on different brands.

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But maybe we saw the next chapter
of it during this match with Solo and

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jay Usso, which as the match
went on, Doctrey, I don't know

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if you feel this way, but
I'm like, man, jay Usso could

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be this year's Sammy Zane, like
a guy that fans want to see turn

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on the bloodline and could be I
can't you know, three or four years

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ago you would never think this,
but could be a main event level star

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as a singles wrestler. I mean
main event jay Usso, right, he

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had that wild run in the late
part of twenty twenty, feuding with Roman

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and being in the main event match
after being nowhere to be found for like

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four or five months after Jimmy got
hurt at I think it was at Wresselmany

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thirty six in the performance center of
the pandemic one. I mean, like

403
00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:19.079
maybe that's the next layer here.
I was watching the match and I'm like,

404
00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:22.119
man, Jay Usso could be a
really huge baby face, which is

405
00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:26.759
just wild to think for a guy
who was or is a tag team star.

406
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:30.640
Yeah, I think when you get
wet. We talked about a little

407
00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:37.319
bit a couple weeks ago where for
twin brothers, Jay seems to have I

408
00:28:37.319 --> 00:28:41.119
don't want to say the it factor
out of the two, but like Jimmy's

409
00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:44.759
good on the mic, but Jay
can tell a story on the mike.

410
00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:48.599
There's more layers to Jay right now. Yeah. And then the fact that

411
00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:51.599
you saw it in the match where
like, you know, he's calling out

412
00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:55.000
so like I'm your big brother.
You know, whose side are you on?

413
00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:56.799
Who are you with? Yeah?
I'm him? Yeah? Yeah,

414
00:28:56.839 --> 00:29:00.720
this could be really good story side
because literally could do a whole thing where

415
00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:03.960
Jay loses everything, has to pick
up the baby face to regain himself,

416
00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:07.079
Like he could lose his family,
his brothers, you know, the whole

417
00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:11.880
nine yards. And then they're Sammy
there to boost him back up, you

418
00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:17.240
know, reinstore his you know,
Juana ve So to speak, and then

419
00:29:17.640 --> 00:29:19.480
Jay then goes after Roman and Solo
and everybody else, and it could be

420
00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:25.079
except for Solo. Eventually he's taking
the crown from Roman as the leader of

421
00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:27.759
the Bloodline, and you know Jay
not wanting to fall in line behind his

422
00:29:27.799 --> 00:29:30.119
little brother, where Jimmy's fine with
it. So, I mean, there's

423
00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:33.440
a lot of different layers you can
go with this for storytelling, it that's

424
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:37.319
the route they choose to take.
Yeah, And if that's the route they

425
00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:41.000
take, the stuff that we saw
during the match and the Sammy Kevin Riddle

426
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:45.200
chapters over, if you thought that
the storyline was going to be biting a

427
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:49.960
lull could not be maybe as entertaining
as the Sammy's Ain stuff. I think

428
00:29:49.960 --> 00:29:55.640
what we saw during Backlash as me
really optimistic and excited to see where things

429
00:29:55.680 --> 00:30:00.319
go from here and even more excited
for Friday SmackDown with Roman rains where earning

430
00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:06.640
and continuing from whatever we saw at
Backlash furthering on Friday night. So it

431
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:11.400
does not seem like the Bloodline storyline, we'll take a step back at all,

432
00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:14.960
which is great for us rossing fans. And then finally the main event

433
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:18.400
here, Cody Rhodes defeats brock Lesner. I had Cody doctor trade Brock Lesner

434
00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:22.440
good match, standard Brock Lesner match. The bustet open spot for Brock was

435
00:30:22.799 --> 00:30:26.519
a pretty sick gash, but of
course it want to be a big Cody

436
00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:30.480
Rhodes match without some blood, and
according to reports, Brock out the okay,

437
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:34.000
which he's like one of the only
talents that we could get away with

438
00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:37.319
that because we don't see blood in
w matches for like the last five plus

439
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:41.799
years. I did like the pin
as it helped get Cody the big win

440
00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:45.759
over there after the ressumating defeat defeat
at the hands of Roman Rains, and

441
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:51.759
it also protected Brock as well with
a Kumara pin by Cody. Cody needed

442
00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:56.880
this win and continuous establishing himself as
a top level WE talent. And now

443
00:30:56.920 --> 00:30:59.440
it looks like we'll be getting the
rematch of nine A Champions in a couple

444
00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:03.680
of weeks and Arabia good matched out
to Trey Cody defeats Brock. Yeah,

445
00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:07.519
really good match. Actually probably would
have Brock's better matches in a great a

446
00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:10.759
while. So, I mean,
I don't know about you, but I

447
00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:12.480
kept checking my watch. I was
like, wait, we're ten minutes in

448
00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:17.359
and the match is still going.
I was kind of amazing. Then you

449
00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:19.119
know the blood spot. Instantly I
thought about the fact that we talked about

450
00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:23.960
like in Puerto Rico, like the
WWC back then, like the Carlos Cologne

451
00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:27.880
era, Like those are some bloody
battles, and it's like maybe the kind

452
00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:30.359
of figure like, hey, we're
not I mean, we're on American soil,

453
00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:34.400
but it's not really American soil.
And you know, the poort riding

454
00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:37.599
crowd is very bloodthirsty, so I
mean, this is the home I mean,

455
00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:41.160
Puerto Ricos, the home of abdul
To, Butcher, Bruiser, Brody,

456
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:44.160
Carlos Cologne. So if you don't
have blood, I mean, that

457
00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:48.119
crowd may riot at some point.
But it was it was an interesting finish

458
00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:53.000
because it wasn't that long ago that
we were kind of complaining about the Lashly

459
00:31:53.240 --> 00:32:00.759
Lesner finish where Lashly had the hurt
lock locked in on Brock and bra rolled

460
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:04.200
them up with that, and we
didn't like that finish. But Cody rolling

461
00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:07.640
up Rock while he's in the Camura
is cool. So like, but I

462
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:13.559
guess it's a physical it's a physical
standpoint, like Cody's so much smaller than

463
00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:15.920
Brock. It makes sense where with
Brock, and lastly it was kind of

464
00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:21.920
a weaker finish. So it's just
an interesting dynamic that Brock wins by rolling

465
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:24.160
up somebody while in a submission,
but then loses while he has a submission

466
00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:28.279
on somebody else and they roll him
up. So just an interesting choice of

467
00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:32.200
finishes for brock Leser. Concerning the
last ego last five months of the brock

468
00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:37.880
Leser run this time around in WWE, so there's actually been some explanation about

469
00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:42.359
that. What was that elimination chamber
match with Bobby Lashly, So the reports

470
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:45.680
aren't there that he they had that
weird finish with Bobby Lashly and Brock because

471
00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:49.720
that was supposed to be the beginning
of the Seeds being planted that Brock was

472
00:32:49.799 --> 00:32:52.920
actually a heel and it was similar
to Win Brock when it get in the

473
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:55.799
ring with Omas and like retreated,
which was strange on an episode of Monday

474
00:32:55.839 --> 00:33:00.200
Night Rawn mid March. I still
think that's bad because at that point Brock

475
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:06.880
was a huge baby face and I
didn't see any seeds beforehand where I'm like,

476
00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:07.960
hm, I wonder if he's a
heel. I just thought it was

477
00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:13.559
like a weird thing to do with
the baby Face, So yeah, being

478
00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:15.759
at that, I just recently heard
some explanation about that, which is like

479
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:20.200
the official word why we did what
they did over the last couple of months

480
00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:22.200
with Brock. But Cody gets the
victory. We're gonna get the rematch in

481
00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:27.119
a couple of weeks at Night of
Champions and we'll see where there's feud goes

482
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:30.920
from here. But a much need
to win for Cody Rhodes. At WWE

483
00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:35.519
Backlash paper view prediction record, I
went five and two, Doctor Trey went

484
00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:37.359
six and one. I'm thirty six
and fifteen on the year. Duct Tray

485
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:43.200
is thirty three and eighteen event ratings
Match of the night. I gave Backlash

486
00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:46.119
a four point two out of five
and Bianco bell Air and Eo Sky is

487
00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:51.559
my match of the night Doctor Trey, what say you? I also and

488
00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:53.440
this is we don't talk about this
before the show. I literally was like,

489
00:33:53.440 --> 00:33:58.240
oh, four point two, so
I have a four point two as

490
00:33:58.240 --> 00:34:02.680
well. Just be contrarian. I'll
go with a Bad Bunny and Damien Preece

491
00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:07.239
because it was probably the most fun
match to watch on this show. Like

492
00:34:07.679 --> 00:34:10.639
Bianca and Eo is probably a match
of the year Canadian, but just like

493
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:15.320
that WrestleMania one. Like that that
Bad Bunny Damian Priest match I remember for

494
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:19.639
a while isn't because low expectations for
Bad Bunny, but guy killed it and

495
00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:22.039
they had a great match. I'm
very surprised by that, mine, Gio,

496
00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:27.360
I really am. I mean,
that's a very enjoyable match. I'm

497
00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:30.920
surprised you chose it those match of
the Night I gotta be honest, but

498
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:34.360
yeah, I mean, that's that's
a fun one. You can't go wrong

499
00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:37.079
with this card. I feel like
a couple of these matches were Match of

500
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:42.280
the Year candidates. I definitely felt
like Bianca eo Is isn't that match of

501
00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:45.280
the year candidacy, But Bad Bunny
and Damian Priest was very highly entertaining as

502
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:47.760
well. Something we'll talk about by
the end of the year. Yeah,

503
00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:51.280
I think the Bailey, I think
Bailey ruined the match, not ruined it,

504
00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:53.360
but I think Bailey would finish as
the Bailey getting, which I think

505
00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:58.400
is great for storytelling. But I
agree, I think just for me,

506
00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:01.239
just like, look, we we
come back in December, we're talking about

507
00:35:01.239 --> 00:35:05.840
match with your kids. The Bad
Bundy Damien Preeson one won't be in my

508
00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:09.280
top five or tend to choose from, but just from I like comedy and

509
00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:13.320
I like nostalgia. In that moment, I got Savio Vega, Carlito,

510
00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:20.039
Bad Bunny, Raymondsteria and Judgment Day
like that was just really fun and in

511
00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:22.440
the moment I got that as a
match of the night. But then when

512
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:27.280
you look at the totality, yeah, Bianca and Io will be up there

513
00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:30.920
for Match of the year. That's
trude. Something that's being debated post Backlash

514
00:35:31.559 --> 00:35:37.079
was whether or not Backlash was a
better show than WrestleMania. So by our

515
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:40.639
rating standards, I gave WrestleMania Saturday
four point eight out of five, Sunday

516
00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:45.840
at four point four. You gave
Saturday four point seven. You gave WrestleMania

517
00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:49.880
Sunday at four point two. We
both gave Backlash at four point two.

518
00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:55.119
So Sunday was higher ranked for me, but it was even with your Sunday.

519
00:35:55.159 --> 00:36:04.400
Backlash was your rating ratings aside?
Do you feel like Backlash should be

520
00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:10.320
in the same discussion as as as
entertaining as Rustlemania was a couple of weeks

521
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:17.719
ago. Overall, I would say
a notch below. But if you segment

522
00:36:17.960 --> 00:36:25.119
WrestleMania and you do WrestleMania Saturday WrestleMania
Sunday as separate entities. I think Backlash

523
00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:31.280
might beat WrestleMania Sunday. Like if
cars is entertainment, crowd, everything else

524
00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:36.760
involved. There's really no booking finishes
that were just like, oh my god,

525
00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:42.199
that was awful. You know,
there's arguments to be said that that

526
00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:46.599
happened at WrestleMania Sunday, so I
could say that Backlash if I was ranking

527
00:36:46.639 --> 00:36:52.280
them, you know, I would
go WrestleMania Saturday, Backlash, WrestleMania Sunday.

528
00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:55.000
Yeah, I don't know. I
still think I would go Saturday,

529
00:36:55.199 --> 00:37:00.840
WrestleMania Sunday Backlash. Right now,
Backlash will definitely be one of my favorite

530
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:06.000
shows. It's actually pretty funny because
I even look at the ratings here and

531
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:07.599
this is just you know how it
is. Right after the show, I

532
00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:13.760
have Royal Rumble a point higher than
Backlash was, and I feel like Backlash

533
00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:15.480
at the end of the year will
be a more memorable show for me than

534
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:22.440
Royal Rumble was. I think there
are more moments that will stand out from

535
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:28.360
Backlash, and even then, like
it depends on what they do with EO

536
00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:31.039
Sky coming out of this do they
do something with Selena coming out of this?

537
00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:37.840
Are these are these literal breakout moments
or were they just feel good moments?

538
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:39.039
You know? And I think that's
how it looks. I mean,

539
00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:43.880
if I mean Selena's entrance is a
feel good moment, you know, the

540
00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:46.199
match was solid. But if Selena
goes back to just being a manager and

541
00:37:46.360 --> 00:37:52.960
is not in the SmackDown Women's title
picture doesn't mean anything. If EO and

542
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:57.239
Damage Control don't break up and EO
doesn't become a standalone star, does this

543
00:37:57.320 --> 00:38:01.599
mean anything? And you know the
Rock, you know Cody Bloody War match

544
00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:06.880
will still be a fun match,
and you know we'll still remember bad Bunny

545
00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:09.719
Damien pre Street five was remember that. But well, any of the other

546
00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:13.880
things stand out more than what happened
at Rumble. So that's I think that's

547
00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:15.719
where it just kind has to see
how it plays out over the next few

548
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:20.760
months. Just looking here at the
year so far twenty twenty three w events,

549
00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:22.840
not counting an NXT Royal rumbell I
gave it a four point three Doctors

550
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:27.079
Tray at four point two Elimination Chamber. We both gave a four point two

551
00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:30.480
rustle Mania Saturday for me four point
eight, Doctor Trey four point seven,

552
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:34.559
Rustlemania Sunday four point four for me, four point two for Doctor Trey,

553
00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:38.079
and likely we've said w backlash four
point two through on both from both of

554
00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:43.440
us. There has not We've not
rated a show below four point two for

555
00:38:43.519 --> 00:38:46.159
the w QUOTE main roster, and
so far this year Doctor Trey for PLS,

556
00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:51.039
apparently all I do is pick four
point two about to four point two.

557
00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:54.000
So yeah, he loves four point
two, which is weird because three

558
00:38:54.039 --> 00:38:57.519
is actually my favorite number. I
haven't think the four point three yet.

559
00:38:57.559 --> 00:39:00.880
So stay tuned Night of Champions and
stay tuned. Once again, though,

560
00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:06.679
this is the consistency that we used
to give from NXC Black and Gold when

561
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:12.440
putting shows together. We're not getting
outside of wrestlemaning, we're not getting thirteen

562
00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:17.599
matches shoved together. We're getting six
seven matches tops. And that was kind

563
00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:22.480
of the NX tam mold were less
matches but more time. And I feel

564
00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:27.360
like that's kind of translating better to
the audience where it's like, hey,

565
00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:30.840
we're not doing crazy finishes, we're
not doing short squash matches, we're not

566
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:35.400
doing it's we're giving these guys time
to build a story during the match,

567
00:39:35.679 --> 00:39:38.920
so then the finish actually does kind
of make sense. Yeah, it's a

568
00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:44.800
great, great run for Triple H
and w Right now so far in two

569
00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:47.880
thou twenty three. Lots of pressure
now for Night of Champions in Saudi Arabia,

570
00:39:49.480 --> 00:39:52.360
switching gears but keeping with WWE.
Dout tree. There's reports out there

571
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:59.440
that w former w champion Drew mcadar's
contract will be expiring sometime this year.

572
00:39:59.480 --> 00:40:02.920
I've also heard some things that maybe
early next year. According to Dave melts

573
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:07.920
or The Wrestling Observer, McIntyre believes
there's a good chance he won't be resigning

574
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:14.440
with w wins contract expires, he
could be on his way out of the

575
00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:17.800
company, which to me would be
a massive mistake. He has been off

576
00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:23.400
w programming since WrestleMania. He was
pulled from a SmackDown show due to a

577
00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:28.679
health issue. He is expected back
to return in a few weeks. He

578
00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:30.880
was just recently drafted. I think
in like the third round for Night two

579
00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:36.880
for Monday Night Raw. I don't
think there's any way that w W should

580
00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:40.000
let Drew McIntyre leave, and I
don't think that there's a company that can

581
00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:46.119
really capitalize on how good Drew McIntyre
is. Like WWE thoughts on this Doctor

582
00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:52.840
Trey. Could we be seeing a
former WWE World Champion and pandemic MVP leaving

583
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:58.679
World Wrestling Entertainment soon? Yeah?
I kid, I mean unless Endeavor just

584
00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:01.119
says no. I mean that's literally
the only way. I mean, if

585
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:06.880
you're looking at actual from what he
brings the company, what he's done for

586
00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:09.519
the company. I mean, hell, it was Triple H that brought him

587
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:14.519
back to NXT. Like, I
just don't see them going, Hey,

588
00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:20.360
here's a six foot six, good
looking Scottish guy that can either be a

589
00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:25.719
baby faced warrior or a heel psychopath
and be believable in either role, and

590
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:29.920
we're just gonna let him wah Like. It just doesn't make sense to me.

591
00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:32.920
And even for Drew, like he's
been an Impact, he's seen what

592
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:39.239
goes on an could he make more
money to AW and maybe would he be

593
00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:43.360
happier there? No, I think
you get bored at some point. He's

594
00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:46.039
not gonna make more money an Impact. He's not gonna make more money traveling.

595
00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:52.159
It just doesn't make sense on either
side for them to break up unless

596
00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:58.599
it's a mandate from the Dark Overlord
that is in Denver. Yeah, and

597
00:41:58.639 --> 00:42:00.639
that's one of the big things about
this story is folks don't know how Endeavor

598
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:05.559
is gonna be handling contracts, and
it's possible that Drew mcutar is one of

599
00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:08.039
the big names. I saw Becky
Lynch out there as well, as her

600
00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:12.840
contract may be expiring in twenty twenty
four as well. There were a lot

601
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:16.280
of five year deals that were signed
in twenty nineteen when AW was launching.

602
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:20.679
Drew and Becky may be one of
them, maybe a few more. But

603
00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:23.760
it's shaping like twenty twenty four's free
agent class for professional wrestling is gonna be

604
00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:28.440
pretty massive, and you got to
expect that one big name from AW at

605
00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:30.840
least come to WWE, and one
big name from w will at least go

606
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:35.679
to AW. So could it be
Drew mckutar. I don't know, but

607
00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:38.280
I don't think w should let this
guy leave. You have a new championship

608
00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:42.400
now, the World Everyweight Championship,
and he's a guy that went discussing this

609
00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:45.719
championship. We immediately said, as
someone who is a top title contender,

610
00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:51.599
give me gunther Drew mcutar feuding for
that title on Raw, and you've got

611
00:42:51.679 --> 00:42:57.800
mussy television going forward. So interresting
times here for one of the pandemic MVPs

612
00:42:57.800 --> 00:43:01.159
and professional wrestling Drew Mcutar as he
may be on his way out of the

613
00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:07.360
company, we'll see, we'll see
what the current contract here. Switching over

614
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:10.559
to AW to wrap up this week's
edition the show Doctor Trey, the AW

615
00:43:10.679 --> 00:43:15.679
Double or Nothing main event is set. It'll be a four pillars four way

616
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:21.039
match for the AW World Championship.
MJF will defend against Sammy Gavara, Jungle

617
00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:24.039
Boy, and Darby Allen. We've
talked about this when the feud started being

618
00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:29.400
built. I think in early March
that it was really well done and still

619
00:43:29.440 --> 00:43:32.239
maintains that way. From a storyline
perspective, I would still say that this

620
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:37.559
storyline has been really good and enjoyable
to watch on television. The big drawback

621
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:43.679
still is, and I hate to
say this, but it's the size of

622
00:43:43.679 --> 00:43:49.519
these guys right Like MJF. It
looks like a world champion. I'm fans

623
00:43:49.559 --> 00:43:53.480
of all four of these guys,
but Darby, Sammy Jungle Boy don't come

624
00:43:53.480 --> 00:44:00.599
off as guys that you would think
could be your world champion. That doesn't

625
00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:04.480
mean they're not creating wrestlers. It's
just the image and things that we've talked

626
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:07.920
about as well, which I think
is more important than me. The looks

627
00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:12.880
is the way that they've been booked
heading into this match and feud has been

628
00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:19.119
not the greatest from a creative standpoint, which it just makes you wonder,

629
00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:25.800
like is AW sacrificing the best possible
main event for double or nothing? Or

630
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:30.920
are they just looking for a match
to make a statement with with having the

631
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:35.159
four pillars right? These are the
four pillars on the mail side of AW

632
00:44:35.639 --> 00:44:39.039
that Tony Kahn has said are the
foundation of the company. They are the

633
00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:44.400
four pillars, Like, is he
just doing this to be like a Stubbard

634
00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:46.639
vincerc Man move, which I'm sure
he would eight to hear and say,

635
00:44:46.679 --> 00:44:51.639
I'm gonna give I'm gonna have this
match happened. And whether the fans want

636
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:52.840
to see it or not, I
mean, do the fans want to even

637
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:58.320
see this? Like to me,
I gotta be honest, I don't.

638
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:04.000
Sammy and Derby have been booked as
guys that could contend for the World Championship.

639
00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:09.239
Jungle Boy is not just gonna be
honest here I don't want to see

640
00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:13.519
this match as a fan. That
doesn't mean Creative has been good for it.

641
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:15.679
That doesn't mean that I don't think
the match will be good at double

642
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:19.920
or nothing. But I just feel
like AW is trying to make a statement

643
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:23.840
in sacrificing their main event rather than
giving the fans what is the best possible

644
00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:30.079
main of an outcome. Yeah,
so let's compare the most To me,

645
00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:36.480
I guess maybe the most famous four
way match in my history, which was

646
00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:40.480
was a stone called Rock Big Show
and who is the full resuming two thousand?

647
00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:45.960
Those are pillars of that era,
right, I mean those are all

648
00:45:46.079 --> 00:45:52.599
bankable stars. This match feels like
a mid If you took the world title

649
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:57.119
off MJF and just said where would
you slot this on an AW card,

650
00:45:57.719 --> 00:46:02.639
I'd have it like upper middle card. Like it just doesn't feel like a

651
00:46:02.639 --> 00:46:06.800
world title match to me. And
a lot of it is like who is

652
00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:12.559
Darby Allen really beat? Like,
I mean he's never beaten Moxley, He's

653
00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:15.519
never beaten Jericho. They're beating Hangman
as they're being Kenny right, Like,

654
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:20.760
none of those guys have really beaten
any of those guys, as you know,

655
00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:28.480
Sammy's got I think Sammy's got to
win over j that it just never

656
00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:34.159
felt like none of these guys have
been established outside of MJF as a main

657
00:46:34.360 --> 00:46:38.480
event star, and yet this is
gonna be the main event's arguably the biggest

658
00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:44.400
show that you've done. So it's
it just seems like to me, I

659
00:46:44.440 --> 00:46:47.079
guess if he took the world title
out of the picture, this would be

660
00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:52.920
a damn good upper mid card match. But it just they haven't built these

661
00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:57.679
guys up enough in my eyes,
to be, you know, a reason

662
00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:00.320
to buy the pay per view,
Like are you going to spend would you

663
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:05.679
spend fifty bucks sixty bucks to see
this match if it was this match on

664
00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:07.960
its own, because that's how you
have to build paperviews, have to build

665
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:15.440
paberview's like UFC stuff, so that
it just doesn't seem to fit for me.

666
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:20.840
So you know, the big story
from last week two was that aw

667
00:47:21.079 --> 00:47:24.079
had sold like sixty thousand tickets for
aw all in and Wemley Stadium in the

668
00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:28.239
UK, which is great, like
that we should be all championing that,

669
00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:32.320
Like that's what we want to see
where we want to see AWB successful.

670
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:37.599
We want to see another company really
content with w WE. We want to

671
00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:40.400
see them going to a new market
and break attendance records. We want to

672
00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:45.159
see that happen. And then there's
like this. It was a really small

673
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:49.480
story, but it's concerning in regards
to AW double or nothing in Las Vegas

674
00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:52.639
in a couple of weeks. As
of right now, sixty one percent of

675
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:55.079
tickets have been sold, and that
number may have gone up at this point,

676
00:47:55.280 --> 00:48:00.119
but it's it's been sold, and
it they only sold it was something

677
00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:05.480
like strange where it was maybe like
two hundred tickets in like the last month.

678
00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:07.440
Like I'm not even kidding when I
say that, it was like between

679
00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:10.239
two hundred and five hundred tickets that
were sold in the last month. Like

680
00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:15.079
that's not great. If I wanted
to spend my money to go to Las

681
00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:17.320
Vegas for the show, I wouldn't
be happy with the main event. If

682
00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:22.920
I'm someone that wants to sit on
Memorial Day weekend and watch this show,

683
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:27.559
this main event isn't doing it for
me. It's just like so strange from

684
00:48:27.639 --> 00:48:32.679
contrast here, like AW should be
selling out the United States in seconds if

685
00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:36.480
they're doing what they're doing in the
UK right now. In my opinion,

686
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:40.320
but double or nothing sixty one,
Like that's not great. And I just

687
00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:45.000
feel like AW made a very selfish
decision by giving us this match and now

688
00:48:45.360 --> 00:48:50.719
as a statement match rather than the
best possible outcome. And you said it

689
00:48:50.840 --> 00:48:55.639
best, right, like Sammy Darby, they've been booked well, but they

690
00:48:55.679 --> 00:49:00.840
haven't been booked where it's like these
are guys that could be world champion material,

691
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:05.880
like they should have gotten some victories
over Moxley or Jericho Samoa, Joe

692
00:49:06.119 --> 00:49:10.000
Wardlow whoever at this point to help
get them over. Jungle Boy has been

693
00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:14.719
in a feud for what's felt like
the last year with Christian Cage, who

694
00:49:14.840 --> 00:49:20.000
is a part time retired wrestler who
didn't wrestle for like eight years and Lucasaurus,

695
00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:23.719
who infrequently is on my television,
and that feud was not great at

696
00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:29.239
all. Yeah, I just I
don't like the decision making it from AW.

697
00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:31.480
I know this is like something you
commonly see on social media right now,

698
00:49:31.559 --> 00:49:36.679
people piling on. I saw stuff
about obviously their size and what have

699
00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:39.800
you. But I mean some of
the fans, without the stupid language that

700
00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:44.920
they're using, are not wrong in
the sense that like this is not a

701
00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:46.960
main event level match for one of
their biggest shows the year, Double or

702
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:50.719
Nothing. We've always argued that,
Doctor Trey. We've always debated it,

703
00:49:51.079 --> 00:49:53.840
like what is their WrestleMania. I've
always felt like double or Nothing because that

704
00:49:53.920 --> 00:49:59.199
was a show that launched AW in
a way. You could also make a

705
00:49:59.239 --> 00:50:04.039
case for all out Out as well. But yeah, I mean, I

706
00:50:04.119 --> 00:50:07.079
don't know. It just it seems
like I don't want to see it,

707
00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:09.880
and I just feel like Tony conn
is just trying to make a statement that

708
00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:14.639
doesn't need to be made now,
like maybe do it, maybe set yourself

709
00:50:14.719 --> 00:50:19.199
up from a year from now to
make this statement and give everyone the booking

710
00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:22.679
now to do that. Maybe Tony's
doing that because he feel likes m jaff

711
00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:25.519
won't be coming back. I don't
know, but yeah, strange moved by

712
00:50:25.559 --> 00:50:29.360
AW creative that this is the decision
they made for double or Nothing to me

713
00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:35.519
an event, Doctor Try. Yeah, it's it's odd, and yeah it's

714
00:50:35.559 --> 00:50:39.000
funny because I remember when we were
saying these exact things six months ago,

715
00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:45.800
nine months ago, we were getting
roasted online for saying these things, and

716
00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:49.639
now maybe we were just ahead of
the curve. Yeah, But like there

717
00:50:49.679 --> 00:50:52.880
are times I've said that AW feels
like a super indie show, Like if

718
00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:55.480
you go to your super indie shows, you see a lot of these guys

719
00:50:55.559 --> 00:51:04.800
that are Sammy Gavara, Darby Allen
jungle Boy size, And you can if

720
00:51:04.840 --> 00:51:07.760
you listen to this show and you
go back four years ago, five years

721
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:10.679
ago, when I was talking about
well Osprey, he was under sized and

722
00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:14.400
for and I said for him to
be taken seriously, he'd have to get

723
00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:19.199
put on some more size. And
what has happened. Ospreys put on more

724
00:51:19.280 --> 00:51:22.280
size and now he's the guy that
you can see being, you know,

725
00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:28.000
IWGB champion and does there is an
image to it, even going back to

726
00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:30.480
when see him punk, remember the
whole physic Man's story where you know he

727
00:51:30.519 --> 00:51:35.039
didn't want to see see him punkin
street clothes because he looked like the guy

728
00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:37.840
that everybody could beat up in a
bar. There is some truth to that

729
00:51:38.079 --> 00:51:42.599
that your world champion needs to be
a little bit larger than life. If

730
00:51:42.599 --> 00:51:46.599
they don't have to be huge,
but either charisma standpoints or size wise,

731
00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:52.760
they have to stand out. And
MJF obviously charisma wise stands out, But

732
00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:55.800
does any one of these other three
guys stand out? If you take away

733
00:51:55.840 --> 00:51:59.519
Darby's face paint, they just look
like every other guy you would see walking

734
00:51:59.559 --> 00:52:01.800
through a ball that was actually open
and not closed down because I don't know

735
00:52:01.800 --> 00:52:06.320
if they even have those things anymore. Yeah, it's it's a trainer move

736
00:52:06.519 --> 00:52:08.239
MJF. And also we should point
that MGF has put out in size and

737
00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:13.519
he wasn't someone that it was under
size. Um, I really I like

738
00:52:13.760 --> 00:52:16.119
all four of these guys. I
don't know if you're watching A Wall Access

739
00:52:16.159 --> 00:52:21.159
Doctor Trey, but for like the
last year, Sammy Cavara from behind the

740
00:52:21.199 --> 00:52:23.920
scenes and even before that too,
was not getting a lot of great stories

741
00:52:23.960 --> 00:52:28.639
about him. Um I've watched a
Wall Access and it's like a complete one

742
00:52:28.719 --> 00:52:30.239
eighty, Like I think he I
know this show is being built around like

743
00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:34.360
Adam Cole's return in a way,
but I feel like Samy Cavara has been

744
00:52:34.360 --> 00:52:37.320
a breakout start. Like really respect
that guy and everything that he's gone through

745
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:40.719
to become a wrestler at this point. Darby Allen, I'm a fan of,

746
00:52:42.119 --> 00:52:45.199
like enjoy his work and stuff like
that, but again, the booking's

747
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:47.639
not there. He looks like somebody
that could be working at like could check

748
00:52:47.719 --> 00:52:52.159
me out at Target for all I
know, but I don't know. It's

749
00:52:52.159 --> 00:52:54.719
just I think you said it best. It's like, this is an indie

750
00:52:54.760 --> 00:52:59.880
show. It's it's it's an indie
main event, and I just think that

751
00:53:00.039 --> 00:53:04.119
timing is really off for AW to
be making this type of statement. They

752
00:53:04.199 --> 00:53:08.639
may never be the visual size that
we may want to see in our champion,

753
00:53:08.719 --> 00:53:13.320
and some folks would argue that they
don't care about the size overall,

754
00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:16.559
but even okay, we can debate
that, But I think the biggest thing

755
00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:21.840
that I think all wrestling fans can
agree upon is the creative for at least

756
00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:25.079
these three contenders, Sammy, Darby
and Jungle Boy, does not make sense

757
00:53:25.239 --> 00:53:30.960
to being a world Championship match at
double or nothing. Like. They don't

758
00:53:30.039 --> 00:53:36.000
have those big match resume wins,
they don't have those big match resume feuds.

759
00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:40.079
I just think it's really poor creative
by w and it's just more of

760
00:53:40.119 --> 00:53:45.000
a statement than it is a fact
of why these four folks should be in

761
00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:47.599
the main event. At least the
three challengers should be in the main event

762
00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:52.960
challenging MJF for the AW World Championship. So kind of a controversial thing,

763
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:54.480
I'm sure we'll be talking about it
here for the next couple of weeks heading

764
00:53:54.519 --> 00:53:58.360
into double or nothing. If you
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765
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766
00:54:02.360 --> 00:54:05.960
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