What Should Dads Teach Their Children About Wrestling? | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #750 – 6/27/24

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It's still welcome everybody. Welcome to
this week's edition. In the story Real

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Does Show Episodumber seven and fifteen for
June twenty seventh, twenty twenty four.

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This is your aw and New Japan
Pro Wrestling for Ben and Door twenty twenty

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four preview and Predictions edition of as
Our Team You, I am one after

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the show, I am Jeff Peck. You've joined every single week my co

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host only doctor Trey Franklin, Doctor
Trey. I'm just trying to do the

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intro not that loud, my friend. Yeah, the joys of early fatherhood

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is not too wake the sleeping baby, because not only does the baby,

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the crying baby, upset you,
but then you have to worry about upset

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mom as well. Oh yeah,
So if we have to do this in

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inside voice only, I'm with you. I got you back. Yeah.

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Before we start doing like quiet casts
like Welcome to the Storial Dust Show.

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My name is Jeff Peck, joined
as always, but my ghost the only

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doctor tre Franklin. Then now it
just sounds like an ASMR podcast. Yeah,

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that or what it was like romance
novel that. So let's look at

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Monday Night Wrong a little more.
Get went down to the ring and that

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is like really creepy. I hope
we never do a show like that,

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but yeah, I was telling Doctor
Trey off Air. Obviously week one in

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the books for myself being a father. My son and my wife came home

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on Wednesday, so that was really
really exciting. Everybody is doing really well,

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really good. Everyone's in good health, good spirits, everyone's excited.

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We're surrounded by family friends. It's
uh, it's overwhelming, and to say

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the least, and the fact that
I was able to still find avenues to

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watch professional wrestling this past week is
something sort of a miracle. I was

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telling Doctor Trey off Air that I
was getting caught up on NXT early Thursday

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morning when my son was up for
feeding around like four am, and I'm

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sitting there and I was watching Roxanne
Perez's match from NXT this past week,

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and then all of a sudden,
boom power goes out. I'm like,

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you gotta be kidding me. I
just wanted to spend twenty minutes being up

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at this like really late hour that
I typically am not up at and certainly

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watching television at and all I wanted
to do was just chill out get my

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son to sleep and watch some NXC
television. I'll get caught up in a

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couple hours in the morning, meaning
breakfast, what have you. And of

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course that was all taken away from
me, doctor Trey. And that was

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really the first instance of my son
and I theoretically watching professional wrestling together.

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It was something I never thought i'd
ever see in my life. But here

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we are. I mean, we
get we got old quick. And uh,

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you know, one moment, I'm
sitting down watching a Monday Night Raw

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and a Degeneration X T shirt with
two words sucking on the back, and

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then I'm in pajamas holding a sleeping
baby watching NXC television. It life comes

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at you fast sometimes amazing what a
difference of a week can make, because

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I know it was you weeks ago. Yeah, so it's not Yeah.

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Now, did you start teaching Luke
that when the lights go out, if

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you hear a gong, run or
if the fireflies come out, run like

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you had because you remember, like
we watched that Super Bowl was about eight

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years ago, nine years ago.
Oh, the Ravens and the Niners,

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right, and in the Superdome where
I saw WrestleMania and the power went out,

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And the first thing I went was, if the Ondertake it makes appearance,

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that's gonna be so cool. And
it didn't happen. But it's just

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human nature that the power goes out. If you're a wrestling fan, you're

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either waiting for the Undertaker or Ray
White or the whyatt six. Now if

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you're making appearance like something bad's about
to happen, and then when it doesn't

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happen, you're almost like there's like
a moment of relief, but then almost

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a moment like, oh, kind
of hope that would happen. See,

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that's so funny you say that.
I mean the way that wrestling fans are

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wired. Like when lights go off
in an arena, that's what we neediately

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think of, Like if we hear
the gong, that's what we immediately think

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of. Funny enough, this time
of year is graduation season, and I

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always remember going to my brother's high
school graduation fifteen plus years ago and they

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started playing Poping Circumstance and I was
next to my dad and I was going

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ooh, yeah, doing the things
with a finger and waving the pinky up

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in the air and moving it around. People are probably like looking like,

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why the hell is he doing macho
man impressions during this song? And it's

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like, dude, this is this
is his theme song. Wrestling fans are

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wired different, Doctor Trey, And
it's funny. This is kind of naturally

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segued into this because I wanted to
pick your brain. You are a three

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time dad. You have a daughter, a step son, you have young

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Sammy Franklin, and you have,
throughout your time as a father, have

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introduced your love of professional wrestling to
each one of your children. And I

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ask you, like what, like, how did you go about that?

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Did you want your children to be
wrestling fans? Everybody who's been a long

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time listening to the show knows Sammy
does his famous Royal Rumble predictions by going

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through all of his wrestling figures,
Like does Sammy sit down with you from

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time to time and watch Ross smack
Down? Aw, how did you go

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about this as a dad where you
wanted to share your love of professional wrestling

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with each one of your children?
So all three of them have been different.

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So like my old like Carmen,
my oldest, Yeah, from day

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one, from the first time she
came home if wrestling was on, I

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had her out there watching me.
She now is sixteen and all right,

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let's get old. Yeah, I
know, right, And and she's not

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really a wrestling fanly she doesn't watch
it, but she appreciates it because of

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you know, the education on and
stuff. And you know, she'll be

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out and about and she'll come across
something that's wrestling related and she'll pop a

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picture and text it to me,
or she'll say something, or if one

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of her friends is into it,
she'll bring it up. We'll shoot you

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appreciates now. My steps on,
Peyton, who's seventeen. You know,

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we've been together now almost ten years. So he's been around since I was

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seven or since he was seven,
never became a wrestling fan, even with

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going to the shows and stuff like
that. He'll he'll come in and so

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often like he has this certain he
has certain people he likes. If he

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sees them on TV, he'll check
it out, but he just never really

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gravitated towards it. Sammy does watch
it from time to time with me,

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like from once again with him day
one watching with me now that he's five.

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If he gets sidetracked, he'll leave
the room and go do something else,

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but he'll look at it. He'll
see a wrestling figure and go dad,

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WWE and he'll point it out and
he'll look to get it. In

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fact, today we were at a
vintage toy store and they had some wrestling

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figures, and he picked out Albert, of all people, to bring home

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as his vintage wrestling figure of the
day. So it's one of those things

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like just like when you're a kid, your dad likes certain things. Excuse

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me, that doesn't always translate into
you becoming a fan of it, but

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you'll always kind of have at least
an appreciation for it and a little bit

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a nostalgic field just because of oh
yeah, like like I don't like the

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Oakridge Boys, but my dad played
them relentlessly when I was a kid,

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So if I hear an Oakridge Boy
song, I instantly kind of listened to

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it and think of my dad.
So it's one of these things where it's

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like they may not get the same
passion were it as you. Let I

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let my kids kind of go their
own way, but they always will think

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of you when they come across it. At least what what was most important

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for you? Was it to become
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a Niners fan, a Cubs fan, was any of those fandoms that you

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have, your diehard fandoms, any
one of them that you were like,

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I need to have Carmen be a
fan of X y Z. Not really

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like I I steered her. I
you know, showcased all of them,

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like when she was little, like
she actually her first steps that she ever

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took were during a Niners game.
Like her my dad was watching them.

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I thought you were gonna say she
did like the Rick Flair strutt as their

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first steps. That would have been
fantastic as well. But we were watching

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a Niners game and at my dad's
house, just me and dad and her

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and dad would stand her up and
all a sudden, she start think their

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first steps to walk towards me,
and I'm freaking out, like back and

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forth, and but none of my
kids have have really gotten into sports at

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all. And then on one hand, like it's kind of sad because I

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want to be able to share something
with them that I'm passionate about that I

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care about. But on the same
side, I'm like, no, I

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just kind of figure out what they're
into and then I dig into it to

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still have something to share with them. Which is something I think previous generations

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of dads didn't really do. Like, you know, when I was a

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kid, I got into video games
or I got into whatever it was.

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My dad wasn't. He was supportive, but he wouldn't try them. And

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so as a dad, like my
step son loves Star Wars and Jurassic Park

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stuff that was never my forte but
I started learning about it so we could

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have conversations about him. My daughter
was into anime at art, not things

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I'm into, but I learned about
those things so we can at least have

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conversations about it. And I didn't
sound like, you know, just old

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guy babbling about nothing. So as
long as you let them kind of go

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their own course and steer them in
the right and take an interest in them,

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then as they get older, they'll
start taking an interest to you.

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Because I just I took Peyton for
the first for like a minor league baseball

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game a few weeks ago, and
he after the end told me, he's

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like, I didn't think i'd have
fun, but this was awesome. I

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love this. I'd love to do
it again. Oh that's awesome, man.

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So it's one of those things just
like if you force it on them.

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They're going to rebel. It's like, yeah, just keep an open

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mind, like, support their stuff
and then they'll turn around and support you

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and your stuff. Yeah, it
makes a ton of sense not to force

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this all upon them. And if
they become a wrestling fan, awesome.

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If they don't, that's it.
I mean, well my heart be broken

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a little bit. Sure, I'm
not gonna lie, but if they are,

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you know, they make their decision
on their own. I think that's

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what's obviously most important. You want
them to like the things that they like

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and enjoyed the things that they like
to enjoy, and you know, maybe

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they'll find that bond of professional wrestling
with me as as we get older here

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and hopefully professional wrestling stays good.
Has there ever been a time as a

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wrestling fan where any one of your
children like shocked the hell out of you

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that they knew what was going on, watched what was going on, or

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sat down with you, like I
know for me watching you. One of

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my favorite things is when you post
photos of like Sammy in the ring at

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the Rocket City Championhip Wrestling shows.
I think there was one not too long

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ago where he had liked this denhim
jack or not Dunham jacket leather jacket on,

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and I felt like he was doing
like the Raven pose, like he

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had his arms extended in some of
them, and I thought I was like

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cracking up over like I loved seeing
him in the ring, like messing around

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and having a good time. Has
there been anything that you know your wrestling

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fan heart melted seeing one of your
children be like, hey, Dad,

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did you do the thing about Cody
Rhodes this past Sunday? So Peyton when

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the bloodline was really big year and
a half ago, he'd bring up stuff

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at school about it, like you
know, you're the kids at school talking

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about and he'd come home and it
did like like there's like three guys at

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school that they're big wrestling fans and
da da da, and I you know,

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hey, if they're interested, come
to the show to come check out

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Rocket City. Things like that.
My oldest every year for my birthday,

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like she does a lot of thrift
store hunting and she'll always find like she

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got me a Roman Reigns a big
Dog shirt but she found in thrift store,

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like she was going through a thift
store and like, oh, Dad

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would like this. She actually got
me a stack of old WW magazines,

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uh, like stuff from like the
the mid nineties, like Yoko's doing Shawn

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Michael stuff like that. Sammy loves
being in a wrestling ring. He loves

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being at the show. He tells
me that he doesn't call it wrestling,

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he calls a kick butt, Like, hey, you want to watch some

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guys kick butt? Yeah, but
so that's how you first it. But

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like if he's had a show,
like, he loves hanging out the guys.

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That picture you're referring to that was
actually his first. We were actually

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doing a promo Picks that night,
and so I was in my gear,

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wife was in her gear, and
say he was hanging out with us.

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So we got him to actually do
some do a couple of postes. So

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he actually had on the letter jacket
a stone called Steve Austin shirt that said

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arrive Raise hell Y doing his little
poses. And you know, stuff like

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that gets me excited, especially because
like I have other friends of mine in

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the wrestling business that who have kids
as well, and so we all kind

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of look at like we're never gonna
get the big time, but hey,

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if they are interested and they have
passion for it. We now know the

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doors to go through to help them
with that. But none of us.

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I don't think any of the dad's
I know, like forced their kids to

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like wrestling. But one of our, one of our performers, Jimmy Cicero,

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who's I think I've told you this
before. He was in when they

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did the ap a bar brawl in
Connecticut. I think it was when they

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had the big bar fight. He
was the guy that started the fight with

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Ron Simmons and Brashaw on there.
And so he's been trained by I haven't

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call I've been wrestling for thirty five
thirty five years. His son has now

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just broken in as a referee with
us, and so seeing that kind of

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father to son stuff is giving me
hope that at some point, as Samy

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gets older, then he'll kind of
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part of it even more as well. So there you go, there's something

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like dad advice, you gotta love
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you're a sixteen year veteran now,
right, Yeah. So, and the

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bad thing is, guess what,
every day you realize you don't know anything.

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It's all of us are just they
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what they're doing. As a parent. We are all just winging it day

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by day and hoping that none of
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blaming all their problems on us as
parents. I literally told my parents and

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I They're like, style's everything going. I'm like, I gotta be honest

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with you. Biggest issue I have
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chairs, bouncer seats, car seats, strollers, and reading the rules and

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regulations and sizes and weights and how
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I'm like, holy crap, Like
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you would just sit in a car
and have a seatbelt that for you

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know, you were no longer in
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be up against your neck, which
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But I'm like, this is stressful. And it's like watch these YouTube videos

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on safe sleep and how to swaddle, and it's like, what the freak

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is going on right now? Wait
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yesterday. Because so the cast,
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the foot today. Congrats, man, I'm actually back. I'm just into

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a walking boot, but the foot. If you go on the Facebook page,

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I took a picture of the foot. It looks like my foot is

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zombified. Can I just pause you? So right there? What doctor Trace?

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yes, it's are you doing only
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yeah, it's a subsection of it. But uh so, like yesterday and

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today, I'm running around trying to
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prepared for going to you know,
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news, got good news on it. But I had Sammy with me yesterday

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taking the speech therapy class, and
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weather looks like it might rain.
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climb into his booster seat on his
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I close the door, but I'm
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like, get him in the car. We start going down the road and

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I'm taking in McDonald's. Because he
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against the seat, you know,
the passenger seat. I'm like, I

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realized I didn't buckle him in in
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I had driven about five or six
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like, I don't get pulled over
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safe spot to turn around and buckle
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a word. He would just he
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to reach around and grab whatever toy
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to play with or whatever. Never
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in that moment, You're like,
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if I had stopped too quickly,
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seat or get knocked over into something
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like, I'm not a big proponent
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look, at the end of the
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they're gonna get banged up, they're
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overprotective, you smother them. If
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like trying to find that balance in
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at the end of the day,
as long as your kid tells you that

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he loves you and he doesn't end
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why he's thirty seven and unemployed,
you did a good job. Keep your

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goals kind of low. I love
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sitting there like Bo Dallas was on
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universe, then I guess I have
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Dad talk here on the start of
the Still Real to show the evolution of

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this podcast has certainly changed over its
near fifteen years of existence and seven hundred

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and fifty episode now and apropos that
everybody who's been here since day one has

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watched the growth of both Doctor Trey
and I in life and now in fatherhood,

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so feel free to chime in.
We'd love to hear all the dads

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that out there and thoughts about getting
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and everything else that we talked about
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Over at SRTU podcast on Xoorfacebook dot
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shifting gears to some actual wrestling discussion, Doctor Trey. I just wanted to

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discuss basically, like how good WWE
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what are the best storylines? Once
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Night Raw three hours long, mind
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not three hours long, and it
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Friday SmackDown, which we actually discussed
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it was recorded a little bit late
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was really really good with the Jacoba
two debut in Worldwrestling Entertainment, So I

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wanted to pick your brain, what
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Bounce around some someones that I'm I'm
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a normal promotion, and I'm gonna
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the w umbrella. I think typically
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storylines that you're engaged with or things
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excited about. And that's how I
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Like really excited about Swerve Strickland and
will Osprey on Sunday at Forbidding door like

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the Elite and the stuff with the
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the Learning Tree, stuff with Katsu
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been good, but it's like two
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would even throw in like Thomas Tony
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Women's World Championship. But going back
to WE, I think I had seven

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and I pretty sure I could pick
up a couple more and I could add

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some stuff from like I really wanted
to. So with that said, doctor

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carry what are you? What are
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is right now? And two do
you have a large list of best storylines

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in World rest Entertainment at this time? Yeah? I think WW is like

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really clicking on all cylinders right now. It's almost easier to say who doesn't

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have a storyline right now because I
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is involved in something. There are
very few people who don't have something going

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on, like you know, I
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know, the carrying cross, you
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because they kind of feel like they're
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a little bit, but they're still
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right now, I mean obviously on
Raw the Gable Alpha Academy, Creed other

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stuff is interesting. And how does
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obviously Chad Gable is one of the
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hell, some people say, look
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loud. Yeah, so it's how
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with Seth coming back the stuff,
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be interesting. The Drew McIntyre CM
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uh, Dominic Live, Finn Balor
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JD mcdona winning the tag Belts because
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all do Ria coming back? Where
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almost that entire show, from top
to bottom. Everybody's got something. Carlito's

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kind of in the new Carlito's the
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Judgment Day, but kind of not
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it's weird how that plays in.
It's just from top to bond and then

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on SmackDown side. I mean obviously
the Jacob Faughtou now the stuff getting tied

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in with is now Cody Ko Randy
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The logan Paul la Knight, stuff's
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Seamus Ludwig Kaiser is good. You
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sammy' zaane. Like every it just
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very very rare when you have five
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accomplish. It just feels like everybody
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is so rare in any promotion that
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twenty thirty years. Yeah, everybody
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development and it's leading to matches and
moments that you want to see. There's

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gonna be a lot of duplicates here
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point zero stuff. Again, like
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don't know Jacob Fatu really well but
everything that I'm seeing online and how he

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is being portrayed on television in a
very short period of time has me really

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really excited. It's like a new
update, rabid version of Umaga from the

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mid two thousands. The Judgment Day
Live Morgan dynamic has been really good.

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I mean there's been some serious stuff
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like Domasterio holding a platter of chicken
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text message that she sent and Carlito
is saying like, now that's really cool

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was great. I love the little
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Damien Priest Seth Roland stuff for now. The stipulation for money in the bank

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is if Damian wins, Seth cannot
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holding on to it. If Damien
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leave the Judgment Day. And he
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The Judgment Day needs him, which
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stuff within this week's edition of Monday
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great, great stuff, decent follow
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before with a little bit of play
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Bo Dallas is being interviewed by Uncle
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going to see this take place with
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couple of weeks. Is as they
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towards SummerSlam rather than maybe something that's
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of weeks. Drew McIntyre CM Punk. We're going to cover first half of

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the Year Awards early front runners on
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would if anybody does not think right
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is the feud of the year at
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one single match, I think you're
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since January to now has been phenomenal. Doctor Trey mentioned Chad Gable,

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Alpha Academy, now the stuff with
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really like that Gable. That segment
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for money in the bank, he
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asked for them to forgive him.
They turn it down. Maxine says,

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you know, I'm gonna work on
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there's the Creed Brothers and Ivy Nile
standing right there like asking him how he's

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okay. Was like really good cinema
from worldwrest Entertainment. The Brown Breaker rise

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to the icy title as Doctor Trey
pointing out the Seamus Ludwig Kaiser. Stuff

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has been really good according to reports, and unfortunately it appears that Ludvig Kaiser

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has been injured. Hopefully that is
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I'm seeing, he is the Bianca
Jade Cargill. They keep losing despite being

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so close. Bianca loses the money
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but gets thrown out of the ring, only for Chelsea Green to seal the

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win. That looks like that's gonna
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earlier than I had imagined. I
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and it may take place really early
in Summerstam time. I mean,

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everything is really really good, Doctor
Trey, even on the NXT side.

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I really like the Jadeveon Evans build. I watched this kid on NXC Level

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Up for a couple of weeks.
I'm like, this kid is a star.

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They put him in NXC television nineteen
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captivated the audience I enjoys in ring
work. He is a really good character,

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is uh. I know they call
Roxane Perez the prodigy. He to

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me comes off as a prodigy.
It's been really good and it's it's hard

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to find something that's bad. But
that is the opposite side of this Doctor

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Trey. Is there anything we can
nitpick about WWE right now? Is there

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any storylines in your mind that you're
like, you know, everything else is

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really good, but man, I
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Yes, agreed, and I would
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women's division on and maybe they're just
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Bailey. They got to build Naya
basically even more dominant to then once again

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make Bailey feel like the underdog.
But I mean, really, the tag

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team division across the board, I
mean, SmackDown Raw, I know,

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awesome truth into the win at wrestle
or you excuse to get the right win

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at wressel Manie was a great moment
for them, But I mean they're not

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a great tag team. I mean, I don't think anybody can sit there

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and go, you know, put
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or the Young Bucks or anybody like
that. They're an entertaining act, but

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they're not a great tag team.
Especially and then you know, you still

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have the New Day floating around,
but you also broke up a lot of

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tag teams over the last couple of
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not fantastic. It's it's better in
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But those are probably my two biggest
nitpicks. Is you know, for guys

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like us, we love tag team
wrestling and we're just not seeing it really

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in WWE. And you know,
what are you going do with Bailey?

404
00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:03.680
Like, the women's division on RALL
is pretty strong. You know, Chelsea

405
00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:07.559
Green getting a push for me is
fantastic because I think you and I both

406
00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:12.000
are huge Chelsea Green fans. It's
just that really there's nobody on SmackDown that

407
00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:15.920
you look and go. I think
they could beat Bailey outside of maybe Nia

408
00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:19.640
Jacks. Yeah, man, no, there's I think you hit it on

409
00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:22.519
the head. I think the Bailey
stuff, which you talked about in the

410
00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:26.519
podcast not too long ago, has
been not as well as I liked it.

411
00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:32.480
And the tag team division stuff.
I mean, in every wrestling promotion

412
00:29:32.559 --> 00:29:36.720
now, w and AW really needs
to be better than it currently is.

413
00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:40.640
I mean, there was a lot
of promise with the Austin Theory Grayson Waller

414
00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:44.119
storyline, and I feel like that
it kind of cools a little bit,

415
00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:47.960
gets heated up, gets cooled a
little bit, and maybe the execution eventually

416
00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:48.839
is going to be really good.
But I think you hit the nail and

417
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:52.359
hand with those two. I also
want to throw an honorable mention on the

418
00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:57.559
NXC side for really good storylines.
The Brooks Sensen stuff has been really captivating

419
00:29:57.680 --> 00:30:02.200
and good, and you saw it
to come to a head where he cost

420
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:06.680
Trick Williams the match against Sean Peers
Spears on Tuesday's NXT. They'd made no

421
00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:10.680
mention of him whatsoever. They allowed
somebody who tried to get in the ring

422
00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:12.519
get a lot of camera time,
which they typically don't do in WWE.

423
00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:18.519
That has been really well done for
a guy who was kind of a low

424
00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:22.240
mid carter on the NXC brand and
once he got done with the tag team

425
00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:26.240
with Josh Brake. So I mean, it's amazing to me, man,

426
00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:30.480
it really is. And that's like
the sad thing of it all is I

427
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:33.359
love the entering work with AW,
and I know we're going to get at

428
00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:37.799
A Forbiddendoor, but I watched Dynamite
Dynamites really good. Collision has its moments,

429
00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:41.240
but to me, it still feels
like, if I wasn't doing a

430
00:30:41.319 --> 00:30:44.920
wrestling podcast, would I really want
to sit down and watch the show on

431
00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:49.839
a Saturday night? Probably less than
fifty percent. Rampage is completely a throwaway

432
00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:55.400
show still, and it's like,
yeah, AW has these great in ring

433
00:30:55.519 --> 00:30:59.359
matches, but if they were able
to do an ounce of the storyline builds

434
00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:03.799
at WI does, they would be
so much better. And it's just increasingly

435
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:08.480
difficult to watch, just the separation. I saw aw's viewership this past week

436
00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:12.519
for Dynamite six hundred and sixty thousand. I mean, that's what NXT was

437
00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:17.400
doing when they were getting their asses
kicked from AAW not too many years ago,

438
00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:21.279
and it's like it's just really sad
to see and again, I hate

439
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:22.799
to do this, and this is
where it's like we're too harsh on AW.

440
00:31:23.400 --> 00:31:26.759
But I just feel like the WW
product, their storylines are so much

441
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:33.640
better that it is bearing AAW as
a wrestling promotion, just outside of something

442
00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:34.880
like, yeah, if you want
to watch some really good entering work,

443
00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:41.599
that's AAW and you could like flip
through the rest basically, So storylines have

444
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:45.160
been really good, really enjoyable time
for we. AW has new Japan Pro

445
00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:48.599
Wrestling for Bidden Door, which we
will get to here in just a moment,

446
00:31:49.160 --> 00:31:53.240
but looking at the card, Doctor
Trey, for me, I used

447
00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:59.279
to be really hyped and excited for
this because you would see Hiroshi Tanahashi taking

448
00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:01.880
on somebody I've ever seen before.
You'd see Will Osprey wrestling on the card,

449
00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:06.440
Zach Seuber Junior wrestling on the card, and it was really cool to

450
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:12.720
see these dream matches. Well,
heading into this Forbidden Door where there's New

451
00:32:12.839 --> 00:32:17.200
Japan Pro Wrestling involved, CMLL involved, stardom involved, I expected it to

452
00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:22.920
be a bigger dream match show and
you look at it and it's being main

453
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:27.640
evented by two AAW guys right now, and I just simply ask like,

454
00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:30.640
did you have the same excitement that
I had back in the day. I

455
00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:35.119
know you're not too much of a
huge New Japan pro wrestling fan, but

456
00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:37.519
did you have the excitement there for
this for ben in Door show? And

457
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:40.480
are you seeing the same things that
I am? Where it just feels like

458
00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:46.480
the show looks like just another AW
show sprinkled in with stars from different companies

459
00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:50.960
here and there. Yeah. For
me, the first Forbidden Door, I

460
00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:55.119
was excited abou because not being a
diehard New Japan guy, it was my

461
00:32:55.359 --> 00:33:00.000
chance to actually see these guys in
the ring, see how they present themselves,

462
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:01.640
elves to try to get a feel
for it, to kind of go

463
00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:05.720
okay, I get why that.
Like, the first time I saw Okada

464
00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:07.640
outside of you know, in the
United States, was you know, through

465
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:12.119
AW like I saw him, you
know what we would watch, you know,

466
00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:15.640
the stuff from New Japan with him
and Kenny Omega obviously, but you

467
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:19.480
know, seeing him and presented an
American audience, I was like, Okay,

468
00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:22.440
I get it, you know,
seeing Ishi and Tana Hashi and some

469
00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:25.480
of these guys, you Minora Suzuki
for the first time in AW You're like,

470
00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:29.279
Wow, Okay, yeah, this
is a dude I could watch.

471
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:34.000
I think the problem I have not
only with this show but with their tight

472
00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:37.519
with New Japan is none. None
of the New Japan guys really win big

473
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:44.559
matches, like nobody's outside of Auto
winning the PUER title once or twice.

474
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:49.400
Now, like there really hasn't been
anybody capturing a w gold out of this.

475
00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:52.920
It kind of feels like, you
know, it kind of feels like

476
00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:57.640
when AW went the TNA or when
TEENA guys would come Overdight It like the

477
00:33:57.720 --> 00:34:00.240
TEENA guys weren't getting anything. It
was always a AW guys are kind of

478
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:02.920
getting to win. And as you
get to this show, you're like,

479
00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:09.320
Okay, there's not really now Okada
is at AW Ospray's an AW. There's

480
00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:13.880
not really anybody in New Japan that
you're going we have to see this guy

481
00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:17.320
in America. We have to see
what this guy can do in front of

482
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:22.639
a big crowd. There's nobody left
for us to clamor for really, because

483
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:27.800
New Japan really hasn't built anybody up
to be that next Okada, to be

484
00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:30.679
that next Osprey, to kind of
fill that void, So we're kind of

485
00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:34.639
just like going, Okay, it's
nice to see some of these guys.

486
00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:37.039
We like them, we're fans of
them, but this is no longer the

487
00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:40.719
dream Batch show that it's been the
last couple of years. I mean,

488
00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:45.599
I'm excited for Swerve and Osprey,
but that wouldn't be on one of the

489
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:49.960
first two shows really, it'd be
you know, so we're fighting a New

490
00:34:50.039 --> 00:34:58.119
Japan guy or Osprey fighting an AW
guy. So the it's the luster is

491
00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:02.320
kind of gone from forbidden Door because
everybody's got a forbidden door now, so

492
00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:07.119
it's no longer new. It's it
needs kind of a coat of paint,

493
00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:10.360
Like it needs something that kind of
spark my interest, Like it's gonna be

494
00:35:10.480 --> 00:35:14.280
nice to see some of these guys, you know, on a on a

495
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:17.039
pay per view, But to me, is no longer a must see event

496
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:22.039
because I've seen it. It's it's
no longer a big deal to me.

497
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:24.360
You know. The biggest issue I
think for me Doctor Trey is I felt

498
00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:30.480
like AW kind of dogwalked New Japan
in a way because they just rated their

499
00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:34.800
roster the guys I wanted to see
in these dream matches because it's Cokatta will

500
00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:37.519
Lospray like. There's obviously people that
are still there that I love to see.

501
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:40.719
T Roshi Tanahashi, even though unfortunately, and I hate to say this,

502
00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:44.760
he's definitely lost a step or two. Tatsu and Ido, one of

503
00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:49.199
my favorites of all time. Saxaber
Junior, who I love watching wrestle as

504
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:52.039
well, But it's like outside of
that, I don't follow the new Japan

505
00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:55.760
product as much as I used to. Gabe Kid definitely peaks a lot of

506
00:35:55.800 --> 00:35:59.840
interest for me, David Finley peaks
a lot of interest for me, and

507
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:02.159
as it stands right now, I
don't think either one of those guys are

508
00:36:02.239 --> 00:36:05.719
on the card. I know,
Gabe Kid, I believe we'll be resting

509
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:09.239
on Collision with Roger Strong on Saturday
Night, heading and a Forbidden Door.

510
00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:15.119
But it's like, I don't know. I mean, I'm looking at the

511
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:19.639
card. I'm not really familiar with
some of the stardom folks. I always

512
00:36:19.679 --> 00:36:23.079
love seeing Los ignore, Abbie Dehapon
Eli j. I always loved seeing that

513
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:30.320
nobody really in the TND Championship match. I don't know much about Stephanie Vakor,

514
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:32.039
but I've heard a lot of great
things I'm excited to see her wrestler

515
00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:38.559
Mina Shirkawa. I've enjoyed watching an
AW television Hetch and Saro. I really

516
00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:45.039
enjoy watching and that is props to
AW because that him being on that product

517
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:51.280
helping up my eyes to how fun
he is. Shingo and Brian Danielson I

518
00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:54.880
expect to be a classic, and
I don't know if they're going to put

519
00:36:54.920 --> 00:37:00.920
a New Japan guy over Danielson.
Yeah, I mean, I'm Tanashi teaming

520
00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:07.880
with the acclaimed as is okay.
Everything else is just kind of mediocre.

521
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:12.159
I don't think New Japan has the
buzz as it used to in the United

522
00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:15.800
States. Obviously six seven years ago
when the Bullet Club was running things which

523
00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:21.599
led to the birth AW. The
unfortunate thing in this all is AW basically

524
00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:27.599
killed New Japan's growth in the United
States, and they continue to take away

525
00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:32.880
great professional wrestlers from their roster.
That makes Forbidden Door as exactly as you

526
00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:36.920
put. It's funny that you said
that, because I wrote that down tonight

527
00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:40.400
in my notes when I was thinking
of topics was losing its luster, and

528
00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:44.679
that to me is a major bummer
because I'm not as excited to watch the

529
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:46.880
show as I had the last couple
of years. Yeah, And the other

530
00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:52.519
thing for it is, I don't
know what New Japan gets out of this

531
00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:55.480
deal. I mean, it gets
exposure, but yeah, I know,

532
00:37:57.199 --> 00:38:01.639
but if your guys are constantly losing
to the guys, is it really good

533
00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:06.800
exposure because your American fans are just
gonna look at like, well, that

534
00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:08.719
guy's cool, but he can't be
Brian Andelson. That guy's cool, but

535
00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:13.400
it can't be Kenny Omega. That
guy's cool, but you know, AW

536
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:17.000
just signed him, Like there's I
don't see. This is similar to what

537
00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:22.559
you and I when when we did
the whole TNA you know AW crossover a

538
00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:23.960
couple of years ago. Like you
and I were super excited about it,

539
00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:28.679
but by the end you're like,
well, what's the upside for TNA here,

540
00:38:28.719 --> 00:38:32.199
because you know, guys are just
getting stumped so you're not winning any

541
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:37.480
of the booking matches. It's not
like a true civil war. It's not

542
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:42.320
a true invasion. It's not you
don't it's not a true battleground. It's

543
00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:45.320
not a true bragging rights. You
don't feel like it's equal. You know,

544
00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:49.079
it felt very very one sided,
and the stuff with New Japan and

545
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:52.920
AW Field is very one sided over
the course of the last you know,

546
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:57.239
this is now what year the third
Forbidden Doors, So it just feels like

547
00:38:58.039 --> 00:39:02.440
New Japan's little brother to AW and
until somebody kind of steps up and kind

548
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:06.119
of takes the bull by the horns
and like, hey, we got to

549
00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:07.320
get this guy over and we got
to get him over and dodge this in

550
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:10.360
Japan, but we got to get
him over at the States too for this

551
00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:15.280
to really work. It's going to
feel that way. And you know,

552
00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:16.960
you talk about, you know,
the guys from New Japan that we love,

553
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:21.360
the ton of Hashi's and Naidos.
Who else do they have to left

554
00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:23.360
to wrestle in AAW that we haven't
seen them wrestle? Like, is there

555
00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:30.239
a dream match left for a New
Japan guy versus an AW guy that we

556
00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:35.280
really haven't seen in some way,
shape or form that we're kind of clamoring

557
00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:38.199
for. Like, I don't know
what's left out there. I don't know

558
00:39:38.239 --> 00:39:43.159
what meat is left on the bone
to satisfy our appetite. Yeah, a

559
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:46.559
couple of years ago when Jay White
Okada Osprey, We're all sitting on the

560
00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:51.840
side of New Japan going up against
AW and Forbidden Door, I was like,

561
00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:52.719
this is gonna be a lot of
fun. It's gonna be some matchups

562
00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:57.800
we want to see. But seeing
all those guys left part of the core

563
00:39:57.840 --> 00:40:01.519
of New Japan and join AW and
the core is still strong in New Japan

564
00:40:01.639 --> 00:40:06.239
but not as strong as it used
to be, has kind of put a

565
00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:12.199
slight dark cloud over the Forbidden Door
concept. It'll be interesting when I feel

566
00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:15.079
like, even when we recap the
show next week, it'll be like a

567
00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:19.159
show that could hit the fours.
It may be an all timer, there

568
00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:21.519
may be a match in there that
we're like that is match of the year.

569
00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:25.199
But as a wrestling fan, the
original concept of All Elite Wrestling and

570
00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:30.519
New Japan Pro Wrestling coming together for
a pay per view was really really fun

571
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:34.360
and exciting, and it's just not
there anymore, clearly because it's being headlined

572
00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:39.800
by two AW guys fighting for the
AW World Championship. So let's get into

573
00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:45.559
it here, Dot Trey AW,
New Japan Pro Wrestling Present Forbidden Door twenty

574
00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:49.679
twenty four. It comes to us
this Sunday from the UBS Arena in Long

575
00:40:49.719 --> 00:40:52.639
Island, New York. We'll look
at one of the pre show matches here

576
00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:58.159
as Chris Statlander and MoMA Watt Nabi
take on Willow nightingalant Tom Nakano. I've

577
00:40:58.199 --> 00:41:02.719
got Willow and Tom Nakano. Is
Tom related to Bowl? Yes, they're

578
00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:08.480
distant relatives. Okay, and the
first and you said stat Lander and MoMA

579
00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:15.599
Watton Nobby Again, I don't follow
star stardom. I'm sad. I'm saying

580
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:21.119
somebodys gonna get mad at me for
saying that I will take Willow and bull

581
00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:23.920
Tom Nakano. Yeah, yeah,
I've heard of tom Nakano. I think

582
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:28.320
she's wrestled a couple of times on
AW Again. I'm sure there's some fan

583
00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:30.719
that's listening to this podcast, going, Man, I can't believe these guys

584
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:34.320
don't know them. Next night here
is Mariah May take it on Soraya in

585
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:37.599
the Women's Own Heart Cup Tournament first
round match, Doctor Trey, Who do

586
00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:39.320
you like this one? Man?
This one's kind of tricky because you got

587
00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:44.679
both these women are featured in the
Tony Storm you Know stuff too, So

588
00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:51.039
I think I'll take Soraya in this
one. I don't. I'm kind of

589
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:53.239
leaning to like we got to build
Soraya back up I'll take Soraya getting to

590
00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:55.639
win. See this is where we
different. I'm gonna take Mariah May.

591
00:41:57.119 --> 00:42:02.000
I have Mariah May winning the Women's
Own Heart Cup tournament title because I think

592
00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:07.639
she is going to take on the
aw Women's World Champion at Wembley for the

593
00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:10.440
title. I think that's where this
storyline is headed. So I'm taking Maria

594
00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:14.679
May. Doctor Tray take it Soreya. Next match here again in another pre

595
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:21.840
show match, as l I j
Yota to Juwey tit Titan. I always

596
00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:24.840
want to call him Titan, but
it's Titan I believe, and Heromo Takahashi

597
00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:30.000
take it on the Lucha Brothers and
Mystico in a trios match. I've got

598
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:31.920
the Lucher Bros. And Mystico Doctor
Trey. As much as I want to

599
00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:37.280
Tech take l I j Yeah,
Party wants take Ali j Jo, so

600
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:38.800
I feel like New Japan gets a
win here, but I'll take the Luca

601
00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:43.480
Bros. And Mystico here as well. Next match is the ladder match for

602
00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:46.519
the vacant AW T and T Championship. Kenoski Takeshka, Mark Brisco, Jack

603
00:42:46.559 --> 00:42:51.480
Perry Dante, Martin, Leo Rush, and Alfontsmo are in this match,

604
00:42:51.559 --> 00:42:55.679
Doctor Trey, Who do you like
in this one? It bothers me at

605
00:42:55.719 --> 00:42:59.519
Leo Rushes in it, because I
think anybody who knows this this or the

606
00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:02.760
show knows I can't stand Leo Rush, So anybody but Leo Rush I'll be

607
00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:07.079
happy with. I'm gonna take Jack
Perry. I just think that's all the

608
00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:10.280
science point that Jack Perry getting the
win here and all the stuff with the

609
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:15.719
Elite storyline playing out. So I'll
take Jungle Boy getting the win. I

610
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:19.280
like Doctor Trey. I'm gonna take
Jack Perry. I think all of them

611
00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:23.079
will be holding titles and this leads
to the return of a special hangman I

612
00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:29.039
think coming this Wednesday's Dynamite. Next
match here is Mercedes Monette taking on Stephanie

613
00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:32.000
Vakor in a wonner take all match
for both the AWTBS Championship and New Japan's

614
00:43:32.039 --> 00:43:37.280
Wrong Women's Championship. Doctor Trey,
I am gonna take Mercedes Moone in this

615
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:40.239
one. Now. This is the
title that she had when she broke her

616
00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:43.960
ankle. Right, no, no. She was in the finals to crown

617
00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:46.119
the inaugural champion and had to She
was supposed to win, but took the

618
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:50.400
l when she broke her ankle.
But it was before the strong the Women's

619
00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:52.000
strong open weight title, right,
yep, that was the tournament. It

620
00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:55.679
was for the tournament to crown that
first champion. Yeah, so I'm gonna

621
00:43:55.679 --> 00:44:00.320
take Mercedes Monet so that way New
Japan can actually use her. They had

622
00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:04.159
planned on using her a year ago. So I have Mercedes Monday getting the

623
00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:07.599
win as well. Next match there
is times Tony Storm taking on Mina Sheri

624
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:09.400
Kawa for the a W Women's World
Championship, Doctor Trey, Who do you

625
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:14.320
like in this one? This one's
hard because I really do enjoy the Mina

626
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:16.440
Shira kawak character, but I and
I also love the Tony Storm stuff,

627
00:44:16.440 --> 00:44:21.199
and I love this weird love triangle. This is one of the those weird

628
00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:23.920
storylines at AW that I really actually
like, which kind of is it weird?

629
00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:28.519
That makes me mad that we could
have a cool little storyline like this

630
00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:34.039
going, but yet we don't have
really many other ones going. This one's

631
00:44:34.039 --> 00:44:36.920
a tosser for me. I think
I'm gonna take Mira Shira Kawa getting the

632
00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:39.800
winning here, just to kind of
shock the system a little bit. I

633
00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:45.159
am gonna take timeless Tony Storm.
I feel like it is going to be

634
00:44:45.679 --> 00:44:50.920
timas Tony Storm taking on Maria May
who wins the tournament at aw All in

635
00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:54.159
Wembley Stadium. So I'm taking time
with Tony Storm to retain. Next match

636
00:44:54.199 --> 00:44:58.639
year is Zach Saber Junior taking on
Orange Cassidy. I'm excited for this one.

637
00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:00.559
It's a close hall. I don't
know where this is gonna go.

638
00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:05.079
And this is going to add to
the UH topic that Doctor Trey was talking

639
00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:07.639
about where the aw guys always seem
to beat the New Japan guys. But

640
00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:09.440
damn it, Orange Casting needs a
big win and I'm going to take an

641
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:14.280
Orange Cassid defeating Zach Sabra Jr.
In this one. Yeah, I was

642
00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:17.000
a little confused on Dynamite when you
had all this stuff with like Orange and

643
00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:22.639
then uh the Undisputed Kingdom and then
there's you know, Zach was it?

644
00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:25.639
Uh what's his crew cofferd I His
crews called with a TMDK showing up.

645
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:30.599
I'm like, all right, this
is interesting, but what in doubt?

646
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:35.000
Play the play the cards you're normally
dealt This is kind of like the whole

647
00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:37.360
UH if you get the upper hand
before a pay per view, you usually

648
00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:40.440
lose the pay per view. In
this case, it's if I don't know

649
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:44.960
the if I don't have a solid
pick, I go with the fact that

650
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:47.480
New Japan usually loses these matches.
So like you, I'm taking Orange Cassidy

651
00:45:47.480 --> 00:45:52.119
as well. Next match, here's
MJF taking on Hutch and Sarah Doctor Trey.

652
00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:55.480
Who do you like this one?
Uh? MJF for the same reasons

653
00:45:55.519 --> 00:46:00.880
of the Orange what in doubt take
the guy from Aw's I'm taking an mj

654
00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:02.239
off here to get the win.
I am taking MJFF as well, and

655
00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:07.480
I wonder if this carryes over as
Brian Danielson takes on Shingo Takagi in a

656
00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:12.239
Men's owen Hart Cup Tournament first round
match, and I think it is.

657
00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:15.800
The storyline is Brian Danielson wants to
get to Wembley in his final years a

658
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:20.440
full time active professional wrestler, and
I think he gets a Wayne over Shinko.

659
00:46:20.519 --> 00:46:23.079
So I'm going to take the American
Dragon Brian Danielson. Yeah, and

660
00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:27.480
I'm also taking because I feel like
he needs a big win even though he's

661
00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:30.719
I mean he hasn't but because of
injury stop starts. With everything going on,

662
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:34.960
he needs to get to Wembley,
so I'm taking Brian Danielson as well.

663
00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:38.079
Next match is Chris Jericho, Big
Bill and Jeff Cobb taking on Samojo,

664
00:46:38.199 --> 00:46:40.880
Hook and Cutsi or shabad in a
trios match, Doctor Trey, Who

665
00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:44.760
do you like in this one?
Uh? This one's kind of true.

666
00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:47.039
It's it weird that I kind of
like how cheesy the Learning Tree is.

667
00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:51.119
Yeah, no, I don't blame
you. It's been good. It's like

668
00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:54.639
super cheesy. I was kind of
hoping for Enzo to be the mystery partner

669
00:46:54.679 --> 00:46:59.639
as well. I was a little
bit that would be funny. Jeff Cobbs

670
00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:04.119
not bad. I think I'm gonna
take the Learning Tree. I think the

671
00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:06.960
Heels have to get a win to
kind of establish themselves a little more,

672
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:09.239
so I'll take the Learning Tree getting
to win somehow. I think Sbata takes

673
00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:13.199
the pen. I really like what
they're doing with Joe Hook and Kasi or

674
00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:15.960
Shabata, and I'm gonna take them
to get the victory here. They've had

675
00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:21.800
some really good backstage vignettes and there's
stuff that's playing out on screen, and

676
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:24.679
I really love the formation of those
three guys, and I see the trios

677
00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:29.280
getting a little bit of love as
of late. Next match here is the

678
00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:34.079
Elite taking on scissor Ace the Acclaimed
in Hiroshi ton of Hashi in a trios

679
00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:36.760
match. I'm gonna take the Elite
in this one, and I just want

680
00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:39.599
to mention if you did not watch
the segment where Hiroshi ton of Hashi announces

681
00:47:39.639 --> 00:47:43.679
that he's going to be in this
match. I am one hundred percent certain

682
00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:47.239
that Kazisko Kata broke k fabe when
he said I am the scissor Ace and

683
00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:51.760
then had the fingers up like because
he's laughing when it's over, and Billy

684
00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:55.880
Gunn was also laughing during that.
So I am taking the Elite. Yeah

685
00:47:57.920 --> 00:48:00.360
once again, like the Acclaimed already
got their victory over the Elite, so

686
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:04.960
they don't need the win in this
one. Even is that their eventual tag

687
00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:07.400
team match, So I'm taking the
Elite as well. Next match here is

688
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:13.280
for the IWGP World of aweight Championship
is John Moxley defense against Tetsi and Naido

689
00:48:13.400 --> 00:48:15.880
Doctor Trey. Now, this is
probably the hardest one for me to pick

690
00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:22.719
because I like Moxley being the new
GP heavyweight champion. I think it's good

691
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:24.559
for New Japan, but this could
be one of those cases where they put

692
00:48:24.599 --> 00:48:29.440
the New Japan guy over and actually, you know, kind of set them

693
00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:35.000
up. I think I'll take the
safe pick and pick Moxley in this one

694
00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:37.360
because I think I've we have three
picks that are different so far, so

695
00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:40.719
if I go zero to three,
I need to get a safe win here

696
00:48:40.719 --> 00:48:45.159
at least as well in those,
I'll take Moxley just be on the safe

697
00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:49.159
side. I'm gonna take Tutsi and
Nido. Naido said that if he loses

698
00:48:49.239 --> 00:48:51.960
this match, he's gonna give Moxley
a spot in the g One, which

699
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:55.360
will be kicking off relatively soon.
I can't see Moxley being there, but

700
00:48:55.440 --> 00:49:01.639
I would also love to see Moxley
be there, so I maybe Moxley will

701
00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:05.360
take three weeks away from his family
just to do the g One once in

702
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:07.800
his career, and that'd be pretty
cool. But I'm gonna take Tutsi Andido

703
00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:13.880
to retain or regain the iw GP
World of aweight Championship, and that takes

704
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:16.480
us to the main event here for
the aw World Championship. Swerve Strickland defense

705
00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:22.360
against Will Osprey. I love both
these guys. These two guys are in

706
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:27.199
my early runnings for Wrestler of the
Year. I'm gonna take Swerve Strickland to

707
00:49:27.280 --> 00:49:30.480
retain the aw World Championship because I
think Hangman Adam Paige is the one who

708
00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:36.599
wins the Men's Owen Heart Cup tournament
and wins an opportunity to take on the

709
00:49:36.599 --> 00:49:39.719
world champion aw all in in Wembley, and I think it's gonna be Swerve

710
00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:45.159
and Hangman, and I am here
for that, Hangman remaining as a heel

711
00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:49.440
and rejoining the elite after being kicked
out. So I am taking Swerve Strickland

712
00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:52.039
to win this one. Doctor try. I have a question before and this

713
00:49:52.559 --> 00:50:00.920
I already have a pick of my
Is it a clean victory though somebody gets

714
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:05.280
involved, not a clean victory?
And that's my only issue with this match

715
00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:10.360
is I just can't see either guy
getting a clean pinfall, just because I

716
00:50:10.440 --> 00:50:15.159
feel like one guy getting a clean
window or the other kind of dampens the

717
00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:20.000
other guy's momentum. And you want
both guys hitting on all cylinders as you

718
00:50:20.079 --> 00:50:23.000
head into Wembley Stadium. I'm taking
Swarm as well. I feel like he's

719
00:50:23.639 --> 00:50:30.079
he maybe this generation's version of Stone
Cold, whereas like he's playing that tweener

720
00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:34.639
character really really well, Like he
says stuff that you probably shouldn't say as

721
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:39.199
a babyface, but he also doesn't
like the smarmy bad guys either, So

722
00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:44.800
I'm taking swerve. I think somebody
gets involved to cost Osprey the match and

723
00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:49.039
starts setting up him for Wembley,
so I'll take swor of retaining the aw

724
00:50:49.159 --> 00:50:52.239
world title scenario. There is our
preview predictions for AW and New Japan Pro

725
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:57.760
Wrestling presents Forbidden Dar twenty twenty four. We will recap and review it on

726
00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:00.679
next week's edition the podcast, and
we'll also of our first half of the

727
00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:07.039
year early Award leaders as we head
into the SRTU Award Show, which will

728
00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:09.039
be less than six months from now
by the time we meet on next week,

729
00:51:09.039 --> 00:51:13.000
which will actually be on July fourth. So happy Independence Day for all

730
00:51:13.039 --> 00:51:15.360
you Americans out there, and sorry
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731
00:51:16.199 --> 00:51:19.480
With that said, let's get a
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739
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742
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Been away from the show for six
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743
00:51:57.079 --> 00:51:59.880
Just had a great talk with Barry
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744
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:04.960
Found out that they have outsourced their
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745
00:52:05.039 --> 00:52:07.440
got replaced by the guy who does
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746
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I feel like that's a win for
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747
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go in house, you had to
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promotions to replace me, but all
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