Who Is Leading Our Award Categories At The 1st Half? | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #753 – 7/18/24

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It's still welcome everybody. Welcome to
this week's edition The s Real Does Show,

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episode number seven hundred and fifty three
for July eighteen, two bout twenty

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four. Welcome to this week's edition
of s RT You because I am one

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after the show, I am Jeff
Attack. Joined every single week on the

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Colors Stormly Doctor Trey Franklin, Doctor
Trey. For the first time in a

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long time, we don't have a
pl or pay per view to worry about

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my friend. I know. Now. The fun part this week is you

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and I were talking off air.
We both have crazy schedules this week.

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We both have a million things to
do. So I am recording the podcast

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old School Style in my car in
a parking lot. But Sammy Franklin hostage

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in the vehicle, so you may
hear him chime in as he's reading a

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blue book behind me. Oh good. I mean, at any point we

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could pause and and take a passage
from the blue Book. I'm down with

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that. The the the Good Book, the Holy Book, the Big Book

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of Bluey, you know as the
kids call it. But uh yeah,

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like he's literally like sitting here reading
his book, playing with his pillows,

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and uh trying not to get out
of his car seat. All right,

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good man. So at any point
he does try to get out of the

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car seat, just give us a
little uh hoad tailt and we'll well,

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we'll make deal. We'll make deal. So hopefully he's not trapped in there

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or anything like that. Pretty pretty
tight. You didn't use like bungee cords

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or anything, did you. I
mean, just because as the vice president,

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not elect, but the the guy
who's running front, Like, just

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because I'm from Appalachia does not mean
I'm gonna bungee cord my kid into a

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vehicle to keep him safe. So
uh you know, uh, I like,

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we're good. We have we have
real car seats that actually have expiration

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dates on them. Fair enough,
fair enough, I've been there. I

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know what. I Hey, if
you need a guy to know about car

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seats lately, I am your man, because I'm like reading a bunch trying

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to make sure everything's level. Anybody
who is a parent can relate. I'm

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like trying to make things a level
on the car seat and then having the

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tunnel vision at times where I'm on
a hill and I'm putting my son in

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the car and I'm like oh crap, it's not level. What did I

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do wrong? And then, hey, knucklehead, because you don't have enough

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sleep, you're kind of on a
hill trying to put him in the car

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seat. So uh oh, wait
till the day comes when he's a little

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bit older, like Sammy's in a
booster seat. And the other day it

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was me, Sammy and my seventeen
year old running around town doing a whole

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bunch of stuff. We had to
get he's my seventeen year old's going to

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do homeschool this year, so we
had to get a transcript, and Sammy

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had speech therapy, and we had
all these different things going on. We

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literally put him in the booster seat. He tipped over because we were on

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a hill and you can't re level
boozer seats as well as car seats.

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And we also realized that we drove
about twenty five miles and nobody had buckled

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him in, So hey, been
there already. I realized, I hope

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she doesn't listen to the show that
I'm throwing runner the bus. But my

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my sister in law had strapped in
my son over the weekend on the in

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the car seat, and you know, she puts him in and all that

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stuff. We get home and I
take him out and I look, and

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the way that his legs are supposed
to be buckled in incorrect. I was

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like, okay, well, this
is good to know because you don't want

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to run in that like weird thing
where then all of a sudden you're telling

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a family member, Hey, just
so you're aware, you put this in

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incorrectly, because the likelihood that they
take that feedback constructively is got to be

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very slim to none in all honesty. Yeah, especially especially now. This

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is not sexist. This is just
no you could say just say it.

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You could say it, especially when
you try to correct a woman on a

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car seat. Yeah, when it
comes to babies, Yeah, hundred percent.

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Yes. Oh, like she'll be
like you should know, that's how

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you're supposed to do. Like,
No, there's literally a picture with directions

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on it. This kid is not
supposed to be pretzeled in the way you

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prenzeled them. No, No,
that's how it's supposed to be. Yep,

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no way. Hey listen, man, almost four weeks of being a

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dad, and I've been there.
I have been there in the type of

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stuff that you are saying right now. So I have I know what you

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mean and I can relate to it. So a little bit of parenting here

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to open up the show on this
week's edition of SRT, and I said

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at the jump, no pl no
pay per view, to preview, predict

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anything along those lines, which I'm
kind of excited for. It goes back

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to the old days of SRT.
We do this next week as well,

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and then we headed in the Summer
Slam, and then you've got All In

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and All Out and Bash of Berlin
and it becomes very hectic again. I

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missed the days of the podcast where
we just had like free flowing conversations about

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things that are going on professional wrestling, and we're not held or mandated to

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preview and predict a pay per view
or a PLA or recap and review it,

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because those take up a lot of
times. And I always feel like

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this has been the parts where the
show has always flourished, and it's always

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makes me wonder about to try at
times, if you know, having a

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production meeting on air, if we
should go back to that a little bit

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more and almost have like the pre
and post shows for these pay per views

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be differently, but at the same
time like you and I were saying off

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air and kind of bled a little
bit onto the podcast itself. You and

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I are just trying to find windows
of time right now to actually sit down

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and do this sting thing. Oh
yeah, it's it's fun trying to adventure

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course through this whole thing where it's
like, Okay, you got this window.

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I got this window. The upside
for me is I'm injured. Like,

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my schedule is usually pretty free right
now. It just so happened that

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today it was like, your schedule
is crazy. I'm dealing with the carby

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and vandalize, trying to coordinate between
the companies and the rental car companies.

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Having Sammy with me is speech therapy
class got moved to today I got.

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I'm like, okay, yeah,
we got a window of time, so

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let's let's focus, let's dive into
it. And uh, this is a

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little bit old school in a way
because that's what we used to do it.

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Like when we do you know,
these these shows at three in the

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morning, we weren't going to play
around. We were trying to get it

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done so we can either get back
to sleep or get back to work.

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Yeah, it's uh, it's refreshing. It certainly is. It's refreshing to

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do this. And I remember two
weeks ago when we were we usually do

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like fourth of July weekend, we
would do the first half award candidates right

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now, like we don't give out
first half awards, but kind of semi

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is we give our like candidates right
now for the awards that we did give

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out in the last show of the
year and had to delay that for two

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weeks because of the pay per views
and the pl is going on at that

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point, which just kind of begs
the question sometimes like is there too many

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pls and pay per views? But
I also feel like the model has changed

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where it makes sense for both w
W and a W to do the pls

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and pay per views to the amount
that they typically are doing them now.

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It does, I mean, if
you're not spending sixty bucks like we used

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to do, and thank God for
better part of a you know, better

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part of a decade. Now we've
had you know, subscription based pl s

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for WWE. You know, AW
is kind of changing up their format.

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So back in the good old days, when you had to drop sixty bucks

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in a pay per view, they
were spaced out a little bit more so

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you could build into it. Well, right now, if I'm only if

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everything's on my ten dollars a month
subscription, it's fine. You want to

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run three pls in a month on
my network, I'm fine with it because

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I only pay ten bucks for it. So the model has changed. But

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you know, maybe you could say
the overall quality of pls has declined as

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well because they're doing so many you're
not getting the long term story build up

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to a lot of these B and
C level shows. Yeah, like you

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used to. That's a really good
point. So let's get into it here.

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So so first half halfway point of
the year. Here we are.

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We're past it now in twenty twenty
four, which is insane to think about.

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We will have our award show on
December twenty sixth, which will be

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here before you know it at this
point because the rest of the year is

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flying by, and we'll go through
each of our award categories and write down

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some of the candidates right now and
who we feel like maybe leaders in the

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clubhouse, people that are vying for
the position for some of our awards that

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we give out on the final show
of the year. On that first one

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is New Story of the Year which
used to be our n Ring and Out

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of the Rings Story of the Year, Doctor Trey. A couple of candidates

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I have right now vincik Mann's sexual
assault and trafficking allegations, Hiroshi Tanahashi becoming

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the new Japan Pro Wrestling President,
Scott Deamore out as TNA president, and

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I also have Stings retirement right now
some of my leading candidates. I would

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also throw in Raw announced moving to
Netflix. Great point. Yeah, that's

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a pretty big one. And then
also the WWET and a crossover like something

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that you know would have never happened
in years past, like seeing ww actually

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work with other promotions instead of ignoring
them. Yeah. No, it is

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really cool, and you're seeing it
play out on NXC television in a really

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unique and fun way and I love
that. So Raw and outing to move

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to Netflix, NXCT and a crossover
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as well. Breakouts are the Year. I have Trick Williams and NXT,

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liv Morgan on Raw, Damian Priest
on Raw, Solis CooA SmackDown, Tiffany

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Stratton SmackDown jay Uso Raw. I
think this is going to be a category

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that is going to have a lot
of candidates this year. Yeah, it

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seems like the depth is more.
I really can't think of anybody else to

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add to that right now. I
think that's pretty spot on for what my

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list look like as well. So
I was thinking about this actually last night

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was I was watching aw Dynamite during
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get to here later on, I
was like, in my mind, thinking

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like, would I put will Osprey
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He's he is definitely going to show
up as a candidate in other categories spoiler

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alert, But I was like,
man, could a guy who could theoretically

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be the Wrestler of the Year be
someone as a breakout Star of the Year

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as well? Because he's this is
his first time in the US. I

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mean, I don't have a problem
with it because in theory to mainstream fans

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he was kind of unknown. I
mean to to diehard to I was a

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diehard wrestling fan, but to most
wrestling fans, he's a known commodity.

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But he was never the IWGP heavyweight
champion. He was he was then when

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they when they did the new title
that combined with the Intercontinental Championship. Yes,

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okay, so, but once again
the big point is to most mainstream

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fans, he is relatively unknown.
It was kind of like, if you

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remember when we when Sammy Zain first
got to NXT, he was a nominee

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for Breakthrough Star of the Year because
he kind of broke through from the independence

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onto a bigger stage. So I
think I think Osbury will kind of fall

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into that category. Yeah, it's
just really weird to say because I don't

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think we've ever had a time and
maybe you and I differ on this and

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we'll get to that a little bit
where I would have somebody that I consider

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as an early candidate for Wrestler of
the Year in the Breakouts are of the

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Year category as well. Yeah,
I'm I'm trying to think. I don't

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think we've had anybody make that big
of a jump, but it's probably I

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think we have people kind of on
the edge of it, but there was

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just somebody else who was a bigger
Wrestler of the Year that kind of pushed

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them into the breakthrough category. I
feel like this is going to be this

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is gonna be a tough one.
I like the comparisons of Sammy's Zay.

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I think this is going to be
a tough category this year of like,

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okay, who's the breakouts are of
the year, because I feel like there

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is so many and that's exciting for
professional wrestling. I mean, I think,

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really there's like two people in this
category that you could put up for

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Wrestler of the Year as well.
So it's at least it adds some depth

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to Wrestler the Year, which has
kind of been dominant to buy you know,

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Roman Rains the last couple of years. Let's get to Moment of the

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year, Uh, Doctor Trey.
Any candidates on your list so far for

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a moment of the year. Uh, Sting's final match? Nice? Nice?

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Cody Rose winning at WrestleMania. I
don't know if I want to put

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the match from Dynamite this past week
up there, but MJF will Aspray sixty

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you know, sixty some minutes with
MJF winning the international title. That's pretty

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big. So those are a couple
of mine off top of my head,

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those are some good ones. I
have Stings retirement on there. I have

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Cody finishing the story. I have
Rock returning on the Day one episode of

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Raw and Calling out Roman reigns.
I have Rock slapping Cody Road at the

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WrestleMania forty kickoff event, and I
have Jordan Grace making a shocking appearance on

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NXC to challenge Roxane Perez. I
really like that one. I mean that

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goes back to the TNA NXT cross
over stuff, So I really do like

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that one as well. Can you
can you do rock this many times?

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I know, but I mean that's
me being the rock fan, right I

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guess, so, yeah, that
makes sense. I'm trying to think of

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there's anything else that really jumps out
as from like a like I said,

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the mjf ospray match. I know
it's knee jerk because it's literally twenty as

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we record this twenty four hours ago. It's pretty damn impressive. Hey,

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doctor Trube, what about the Hayman
power Bomb in MSG ham in power Bomb,

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Yeah, MSG, that's that's that. I can't ever forgot that,

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but that'd be high on my list
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one off on there, and I'm
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where I was like, holy crap, I can't believe this took place.

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know there is something recently in aw
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did that because oh Mariah May turning
on Tony Storm. Oh gad point,

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that's a good one. Yeah.
I got to add that one as well.

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I like that call. Yeah,
I was trying to think of something.

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You know, I'm trying to be
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the Fox News of this podcast apparently, just trying to be fair and balanced.

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There you go, there you go. All right, event of the

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Year. What are some of your
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Trey and I could go through some
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if that helps you out, I
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would have to kind of look at
my list, and I don't have my

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listen from you, but I know
WrestleMania Night two definitely is up there.

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That was pretty high on our list. What was the like, I'd have

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to look at the list. I
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has always been hard to beat the
last three years. Yeah. I have

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Wrestlemating forty on there, I have
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E Backlash in France, as some
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those. Yeah, it would be
probably my top three as well. I'm

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looking at your ranking, So you
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AW Dynasty. You gave a four
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Double or Nothing recently as well.
I don't know if we would consider any

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of those no event of the years. I think the three you listed off

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are probably because the France show is
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know if like from I mean,
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this year, which I never thought
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And then you said Double or Nothing
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those are probably my top Yeah,
that'll land on those. Yeah, And

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I would just throw in if there
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year, I would have put NXC
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a breakout event of the year,
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months, if not twelve months.
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maybe out of this whole, like
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and back into it, I would
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nxtpl's have been down quite a bit, and that was the most like fun

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surprising, like, oh my gosh, this show's been really really entertaining from

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top to bottom. So like that
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are expectations were so high, like
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it's like, oh, that was
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it. Yeah. No, this
that was a show that really really caught

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us off guards, like a really
fun show. Few to the Year.

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Some of my candidates, I've got
Cody Rhodes, seth Ron's Roman Reigns in

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the Rock as One, Drew McIntyre, Cmpunk Live, Morgan Rhea Ripley,

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and I'm only going to throw this
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over the last three or four weeks. I think Hangman, Adam Page,

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and Swart of Strictly, which was
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maybe bubbling back up as a candid
right now, but I'm gonna leave

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it off the list for the time
being. Yeah, and once again,

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like you like the MJF. Garcia
thing was really well done, but we

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don't know how that's gonna play out. We're only two weeks into the Mariah

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May Tony Storm things, so maybe
by you know, in three months,

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that'll be in the list. The
ones you have listened kind of where I'm

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at, Like the Punk Mac entire
thing is gonna drag out for a while

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and be good. The Live Rhea
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it was more of the injury and
Ria being off TV and live taking advantage

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of it that made it so good. And I I can you put in

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the Elite versus ae W cam because
it's kind of like them against everybody.

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It's a little bit of like nWo
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but from a fun factory. You
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kind a few with everybody, So
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of be up there. I was
trying to think of one from TNA,

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but it really hasn't been one that's
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Like I literally did go down to
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AJ Francis feud, just because of
the Joe Henry parody songs that he was

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doing to make fun of AJ Francis. Yeah. No, I'm not up

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on impact or TNA wrestling, I
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be now, But yeah, it's
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So I think, so we just
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right, is that what we got
to Yeah? And then just the bad

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thing is we're all expecting a solo
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it hasn't started yet, and that
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get to December and just be well
above everything else. Yeah, I think

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Hangman Swerve, depending on how far
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in here. Like I said before, I could see MJF willas Pray if

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that is a long time feud,
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could come in here. And I
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be certainly in there. I think
this is the most rocky candidacy so far

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out of all the first half awards
for SRTU. Yeah, yeah, because

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because feuds like you and I,
like we've we've been in the show for

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so long. You and I grew
up on old school feuds that would take

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nine months, you know, to
a year, and we've had a couple

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of those in years past. Right
now, everything's either on a slow burn

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or it was fast tracked, and
they're just kind of waiting for a payoff.

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So it's got some some legs to
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some of their feuds, why some
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because the injuries like Punk Drew McIntyre
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honesty, if like if this had started

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the Rumble, it would have been
done by now, and we've removed on

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to Punk and Rollins or mcintie,
you know, somebody else. So it

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is good that's giving us some death
because we're seeing depth of you know,

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the cm hunk stuff is really funny. The stuff with the bracelet's been really

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good. But that's all because of
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that like, hey, he might
not be able to be in the ring,

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but we can do other stuff to
keep this feud going until we get

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that entering showdown. What do you
think of that approach where like with the

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injured stars and see them Punk and
Rhea Ripley, they're still involved with feuds

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and storylines despite being off a television
and not wrestling for you know, in

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Punk's case seven months, eight months
and in Rhea's case three months. I

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think it's smart because it keeps the
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about it. And then here's the
thing, like, if you want the

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person to come back as a heel, you keep them around and the crowd

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never really misses them. You know, We've seen that years past where a

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heel goes away for injury for six
months and they come back back of the

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crowds so happy to see him,
they start cheering the guy right away.

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This is a way to, hey, keep the character fresh in your mind

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and beat You're also maximizing on your
investment, because if you're paying these people

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a lot of money to draw eyes
to your product and they get hurt and

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they're away for six months, well
you're not really making any money off of

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them during the time. I mean, think of all the merchandise that Punk

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and Rhea have sold while they've been
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or in the storyline. That's just
a good way of keeping you know,

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keeping your investment, you know,
moving forward and making some money off of

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it as well. Let's get to
Match of the Year candidates. Who are

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some of the candidates that are sticking
out to you, Doctor Trey, And

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once again, I'm happy to go
through like Match of the Night if that

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helps you out for some of yours. I was gonna say, you go

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first. Okay, throws them out
there out and if there's anything that pops

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in my mind that we may have
forgotten, I get there. I mean,

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because right now we don't have the
mjf Osprey match in there. That's

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gonna be an early candidate for me
as well. Okay, let's add that

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one to the list. MGF versus
Will Ospray. I have Cody Rhodes versus

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Roman Reigns from WrestleMania forty. I
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Revolution. I love that match,
and swer Strickland versus Will Ospray from AW

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Forbidden Door as my candidates right now
for Match of the Year. Yeah,

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it's hard to argue against those.
Has AW pretty much like like dominated this

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category for his the last few years, because it feels like that's what we

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always say, like WW has better
storylines, AW has better in ring stuff.

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Yeah, I mean Swerv and Osprey
was really good too. Last year

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I went with Rhea and Charlotte from
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and Hangman from AW Full Gear.
The year before that, you and I

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both went with Austin versus Owens from
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twenty twenty one, I had Bianca
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You had Page versus Danielson from AW
Winners Coming. I would say in twenty

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twenty four, AW has dominated the
category, and that's the thing that we

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always say about them as a pay
per view, Like the television leading up

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to some of the pay per views
earlier this year was not good, but

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the pay per views themselves delivered,
and I still think that that tracks well.

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I mean, I am really enjoying
and fine entertaining. We but if

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there is one part of that.
I'm like, this is lacking. I

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never walk away and go like that's
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I think only Cody and Roman is
in there because it was such a fun

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match and it was like the Avengers
for professional wrestling. I don't think if

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that happened and Cody Rhodes wins the
title, that we're sitting here and going

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like that's a match of the Year
candidate. I think that's in there because

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of the entertainment and excitement that came
from that match, rather than like the

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match. It's you know, the
play by player, the story that they

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told from you know, a one
on one wristlock encounter. Yeah. I

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mean, really, looking back this
year so far, I mean AW kind

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of has dominated the d ring stuff
from just showed a show. I mean

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you're absolutely right, like there really
hasn't been a WW match outside of Cody

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and Roman where you're like, oh, that's it, that's match of the

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Year. I mean, we've had
some solid matches, but like, I

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don't think we've had anything on the
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of Cody and Roman. And you're
right, it was because of the nostalgia

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in getting in all the fields of
seeing all these guys come rushing into the

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match to try and close it out. So yeah, Aw's kind of dominated

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during this year. I like Cody
Rhoads. I'm not like this huge Cody

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roads Stan and I felt like his
matches in AW were more Match of the

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Year worthy than anything I've seen in
w w W. Where do you stand

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on like Cody the entering worker and
like throwing his name in there as a

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potential Match of the Year candidate.
His matches specifically, I don't think he's

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had a bad match. Agreed with
that one hundred percent. You're right,

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Like his match with AJ in France
was really really good. But once again,

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when you go, oh, it's
Cody Rose ag styles, they should

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tear the roof up this place and
you get a really good match, you're

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kind of let down a little bit. I don't think he's I wasn't.

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But again, remember, like going
back to the news, if I was

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the guy that was always criticizing Cody
for doing too much in his matches,

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like going overboard to try and get
the matches over, I just think he's

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been very, very solid. He's
been in a lot of ways, and

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people make criticize this. He's been
very Roman Reigns esque in his matches.

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Like Roman typically did not have Match
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all very very solid and entertaining.
I think Cody's doing the same thing.

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His matches have all been really solid, really entertaining. I mean, even

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the six man tag from last month
was a fun match. It's just not

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Match in the Year, but it
wasn't horrible either. It's just very very

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solid but not earth shattering. Let
me throw out this match, see and

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see if you think it's in the
discussion for Match of the Year, because

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I think it's comparable to Cody Rhodes
versus Roman Reigns from Wrestlemining forty. Where

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do you stand on Sting Darby Youngbuck's
aw Revolution. It's a little bit of

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Austin Owens in a sense where like
it's we all know what's the same For

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us, it was Austin returning.
This was Sting going away, so you

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have a little bit more of emotional
attachment to it. I thought the match

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was good, but I mean I
still think the other match that we mentioned

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for AW were better matches for entertaining
overall, It's just the sting retiring factor

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kind of pulls it up because I
mean, it's not a sixty you know,

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it's not a sting Rick Flair sixty
minute Iron Man match. This isn't

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a match that you know you're just
like going gaga over for all the inn

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ring stuff. I mean, could
I say the women's ladder match from Money

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in the Bank was more surprisingly entertaining
than Sting and Darby? Yeah, but

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the nostalgia part of staying retiring pulls
at your heartstrings more agreed? Okay,

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Yeah, I just want to throw
that out there because I thought if there

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was a match that was comparable to
Cody Roman, it would be that aw

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match. Like I said it to
me, it's more just the emotional attachment

404
00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:21.119
to it than anything else. I
just I mean good. I mean that

405
00:27:21.160 --> 00:27:23.279
women's My the Bank match was our
match of the match of the I for

406
00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:27.880
My of the Bank, and it
was surprisingly good and has some crazy spots

407
00:27:27.920 --> 00:27:32.200
in it. But I don't think
we put that one up there with Cody

408
00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:33.599
and Roman yet. No, I
agree with you. I agree with you.

409
00:27:36.279 --> 00:27:40.559
Next category here is tag Team of
the Year, and I struggled this

410
00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:44.039
with this one. Doctor Trey I
really did, because there's really no tag

411
00:27:44.039 --> 00:27:47.920
team that's pulling away. I have
Down as candidates. I have Young Bucks,

412
00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:52.599
DIY, Awesome Truth, and I
don't feel confident in any of those.

413
00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:56.359
There is no like slam Dunk Pick
in my opinion on this one.

414
00:27:56.720 --> 00:28:00.400
Do you throw Nathan Frazier an Axiom
into that mix? I think you do?

415
00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:03.480
Why not? I mean it's comparable
to Awesome Truth Dy right for me?

416
00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:07.920
On the w E side of things, Yeah, I mean there really

417
00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:12.359
hasn't been anybody to break out and
run away with it. I mean,

418
00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:18.240
do you want I mean, could
you throw Bullet Club Gold because they're trios

419
00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:23.720
into the mix, Because I mean
technically Matt Ben or Mike Bennett and Matt

420
00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:27.759
Tabaman rate that have been the longest
rainning tag team champions of all the shows

421
00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:30.759
because they're the Ring of Honor tag
team champions. But I don't think you

422
00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:33.400
want to. I don't think they're
on the level of the other teams you

423
00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:37.759
mentioned, but they've been the longest
raining tag team champions. Yeah. And

424
00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:41.519
I think the last time I saw
them wrestles like on Collision a couple of

425
00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:45.200
weeks ago. Maybe if it was
Rampage and I don't watch roah. I

426
00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:48.599
mean, this is probably the toughest
category I've had because I don't think that

427
00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:52.279
there's a slam dunk decision here.
Yeah. I think right now it's been

428
00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:57.000
a very very lackluster tag team yere
at best be nice. I guess like

429
00:28:57.079 --> 00:29:00.240
nobody's really taken the bull by the
horn. I mean, we don't have

430
00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:04.680
a breakout team like Getclaimed was last
year where they got really hot for four

431
00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:08.319
months. You know, we don't
have you know, our stalwarts. You

432
00:29:08.359 --> 00:29:11.920
know you mentioned FDR, but FDR
has been injured a lot this year,

433
00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:17.319
and the Bucks have been doing more
stuff with their storyline than they have been

434
00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:19.480
in rings. So it's kind of
a crazy toss up. It's gonna be

435
00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:22.799
interesting how long, like d I, how long does DIY keep the belts?

436
00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:29.400
How long do Finn and JD keep
their belts? Belts? Do they

437
00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:32.079
break up? Fraser and Axiom?
I think that those are the kind of

438
00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:36.079
compelling storylines because if any of those
team get gets hot and they run the

439
00:29:36.119 --> 00:29:40.000
next six months as tag champs and
they have some good matches, we're gonna

440
00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:41.359
be like, yeah, that's Tag
Team of the Year. But right now,

441
00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:45.160
I mean, for aw, don't
really only have a couple of tag

442
00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:49.799
teams listed. I mean, does
the House of Black get hot with Brodie

443
00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:53.400
King and Malachi Black? Does the
Wyatt Six start? Do we start seeing

444
00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:57.319
a tag team come out of that
group? Like it's this is the most

445
00:29:57.359 --> 00:30:02.799
wide open I think of all the
category because there just hasn't been anything that's

446
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:07.759
been really noteworthy this year in tag
team wrestling. Yeah, yeah, it's

447
00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:10.319
it's been a tough one. It's
been a tough year for tag team wrestling.

448
00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:12.720
I think that's a theme where it's
like, make the tag team shine

449
00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:15.799
w W n a W because I
don't know what why they are taking a

450
00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:19.839
back seat. Female Wrestler of the
Year. Who are some of your candidates

451
00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:30.119
had to try? I got liv
I got Tony Storm, Willow Nightingale just

452
00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:37.680
because of everything else she's done.
And then I'm trying to think Mercedes Monette.

453
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:41.359
Yeah, I was having a struggle
saying that one out loud. I

454
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:45.559
don't. I don't think she's in
that category right now. If you Bailey's

455
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:51.519
had a Rumble win, a wrestle
Mania win, but just the run hasn't

456
00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:53.240
been great. But I mean,
you get a Rumble win and a Mania

457
00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:57.039
win. It's hard to say she
she's not on the list, Like those

458
00:30:57.039 --> 00:31:00.160
are big things, So I think
you get throw a Bailey in the mix

459
00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:03.640
as well. I have Lived Bailey, Timeless, Tony Storm on my list.

460
00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:11.440
I could easily see Ria, Doctor, Britt Baker, and Mercedes make

461
00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:14.920
the list for the second half of
this year as well. What about Roxanne

462
00:31:14.920 --> 00:31:18.759
Perez, I need to see a
little bit more from her. I think

463
00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:23.599
the one criticism I have of Roxanne
Perez is she's doing the Chora Jade character

464
00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:29.799
while Kora Jaide's out injured. That
was my knock on as well. But

465
00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:33.240
I mean the Jordan Grace match is
really good. Yeah, I think you

466
00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:36.599
put her in there. Yeah,
I mean she's not in the top two

467
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:38.000
or three, but I just want
to give her some of the shout out

468
00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:41.359
because she's had a pretty solid year
so far. I could also see Tiffany

469
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:45.799
Stratton and Nijacks making a play here
in the second half of twenty twenty four

470
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:48.880
as well. Yeah, the Tiffy
thing's gonna be one of those things where

471
00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:53.119
the character is gonna lead a lot. I don't think you can say Tiffy's

472
00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:57.000
gonna have the best matches of the
Year, but I think the character and

473
00:31:57.359 --> 00:32:00.880
the matches might make it work.
This whole thing with her and I Am

474
00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:06.319
Bailey might turn out to be really, really entertaining post SummerSlam and and kind

475
00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:09.519
of carry the SmackDown division for a
while. Male rest of the Year candidates,

476
00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:13.039
I think it's a three dog race. Doctor Trey, I've got Cody,

477
00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:16.279
Swerve, will Ospray, those are
my three guys. Cody, Swerve,

478
00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:21.240
will Ospray, Yeah, those but
that probably my top three as well.

479
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:27.359
Priest, I do like Damian Priest, It's just I don't know if

480
00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:30.880
I want to put him up there. For like wrestler the year, I

481
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:37.160
think Drew McIntyre still been the most
entertaining wrestler this year. Character development and

482
00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:40.640
his matches have been good. He's
just been screwed so many times. He

483
00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:45.599
doesn't have a big win I would
actually put I would say Drew, Damien,

484
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:47.960
and Gunther are three people that I
could see entering this race in the

485
00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:51.839
second half of the year as well. Yeah, but right now, for

486
00:32:51.880 --> 00:32:54.039
the first six months, it's it's
Swerve. I mean that it was for

487
00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:57.319
me. It was Swerve, Ospray
and Cody were my top three and then

488
00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:01.279
those other three were like a notch
below Agreed wrestling promotion in the year,

489
00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:05.839
which is almost like our favorite wrestling
show at this point, not know aw

490
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:10.160
sys Standalade promotion. For me,
I think the two best promotions in professional

491
00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:15.119
wrestling right now for me are Raw
on n NXC. Yeah, I had

492
00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:20.759
Raw number one, I had excuse
I had NXT and SmackDown kind of because

493
00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:25.480
SmackDown with the new bloodline stuff has
been entertaining. It has it's the problem

494
00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:29.599
was is post WrestleMania, there was
a dip for about a month and a

495
00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:35.920
half and then AAW for the first
three months was not good. But in

496
00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:38.680
the last three months they've really picked
it up and they're going, so this

497
00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:43.960
thing might this thing might end up. Raw has just been really really consistent,

498
00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:46.880
and then adding the Wyatt six to
it gives it even more compelling storylines.

499
00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:52.319
I think it's gound be hard for
any of those other shows to catch

500
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:59.000
Raw. But the number two could
be any show out there that we mentioned.

501
00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:01.440
Yeah, no, I'm with you. I am with you on that

502
00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:05.359
as well. So I mean,
I think this is gonna be one that'll

503
00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:07.360
be very telling for the rest of
the year as well. And then that

504
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:10.000
takes us to Wrestler of the Year, and that's basically all the candidates that

505
00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:14.440
we mentioned early on Live Bailey,
Thomas Stoney, Storm, Willow Nightingale,

506
00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:17.480
Rox Sanperez, Cody Swerve, will
Osprey, Drew McIntyre. I guess I'll

507
00:34:17.559 --> 00:34:21.159
kind of spoil it on this one, DoD Try. I think that this

508
00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:25.159
category three dog race again, Cody
Swerve or Will Ospray, I think those

509
00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:30.039
are the leaders in the clubhouse for
me. I think right now, I

510
00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:34.440
think the real injury slower down because
she would still be up in the upper

511
00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:37.880
echeline if she has she not got
hurt, if she has a really good

512
00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:43.800
six months with wrestling, and then
this whole dominant Judgment Day storyline, I

513
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:47.639
think she could catch up to the
three we mentioned. And then once you

514
00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:52.079
Live has been on fire this year, So it kind of depends on this

515
00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:54.880
whole storyline tight end as well.
I mean, if you split Judgment Day

516
00:34:55.000 --> 00:35:00.480
and she goes with you know,
like say that the whole Big Swerve as

517
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:04.320
finn Balor that was the one behind
all this and Live Live in finn Balor

518
00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:07.159
put all this together because if you
remember when the Judgment Day was first formed.

519
00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:12.239
One of the first groups they went
after was it was aj Finn and

520
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:15.719
Live that fought the judgment day.
So this could be like a long term

521
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:19.840
storyline if they tied it back in
that way. But yeah, like it's

522
00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:23.960
it's Cody Will and Swerve and then
Rhea and Live and then whoever comes out

523
00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:30.480
of this Damien Gunther see him Punk
Drew a quartet the last six months might

524
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:34.440
be able to catch up a little
bit if if we'll go free slow down.

525
00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:37.039
I feel like it's a wide open
race, doctor Trey, I really

526
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:42.119
do. I mean, would you, like two months ago, would you

527
00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:44.840
would you have said, hey,
I think Will Osprey will have two losses

528
00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:49.760
before we get to uh, you
know, we get to the end of

529
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:52.719
the summer. No. I had
him going and all in either as the

530
00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:55.559
challenger for the AW World Champion or
the AW World Champion. Quite frankly,

531
00:35:57.239 --> 00:36:02.239
yeah, So it's been a crazy
couple of weeks from will Ospray Mjf's back

532
00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:07.000
and God knows that dude can catch
fire at any time. So to me,

533
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:12.880
it's kind of swerving Cody because of
storylines and consistency Aspray's right there with

534
00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:15.360
them, and then kind of depending
on what they do with MJF and then

535
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:19.000
what happens with the four guys I
mentioned, you know, you know,

536
00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:21.920
in addition to that, it's it's
kind of like you got one A,

537
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:25.719
one B, one C and then
level two, but level two depending on

538
00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:29.079
six months. If something gets hot, they could jump up and over take

539
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:30.639
the rest of them. Yeah,
yeah, it's it's been fun right now.

540
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:34.119
I think this has been a fun
first half and I'm looking forward to

541
00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:37.320
see what the second half of twenty
twenty four does in professional wrestling once again,

542
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:40.760
we'll have that award show on December
twenty six, so it'll be here

543
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:45.320
before you know it. A couple
of news and notes before we close up

544
00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:49.519
shop on this week's edition of SRTU. There have been some reports out there

545
00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:52.199
about some new titles coming to we. This comes to us from Wrestling,

546
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:55.239
Inc. It has been rumored that
the WWE's women's division is set to receive

547
00:36:55.280 --> 00:37:00.719
its own w United States and Intercontinental
Championships in the near future. Speaking on

548
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:02.639
The Rest and Observer Radio, Dave
Meltzer confirmed this to be true, saying,

549
00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:06.760
quote, someone texted me and just
goes it's being reported out there that

550
00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:10.239
they're going to create w wui's women's
US and Air Continental titles. Meltzer said,

551
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:15.599
I was basically told that this that
is in fact what is being talked

552
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:19.000
about. So there you go,
two more championships coming, one on each

553
00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:22.119
brand. I love this art to
try. We talked about this when the

554
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:27.840
NX North American Championship was revealed for
the women's division, that this could open

555
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:30.639
the door to these two titles.
Haven't heard much more about this since then,

556
00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:35.119
but I love the idea of having
a women's United States in Air Cottinenttle

557
00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:38.760
Championship. I do, and I
don't like on You know, one of

558
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:42.880
my chrises of aw is you know, not every match has to be a

559
00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:45.639
title match, and it feels that
way sometimes, and if you add two

560
00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:51.119
more singles titles into the mix,
it does feel a little bit at this

561
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:53.840
point. You remember, years and
years ago when the network was first launched,

562
00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:58.320
there was rumors of them just doing
an all women's, an all female

563
00:37:58.320 --> 00:38:02.079
wrestling show on the network. I
feel like at some point that might be

564
00:38:02.159 --> 00:38:05.519
the way to go, is hey, maybe we just take the women.

565
00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:08.920
They'll still be on Raw and SmackDown, but just have a show dedicated to

566
00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:15.000
just women's wrestling as well. It's
just I'm still not sold on the women's

567
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:19.599
North American title because as we've seen, the women are still a little raw,

568
00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:22.280
they're still a little green. It's
a nice stepping stone. I just

569
00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:25.840
don't know if you need to have
a US and Intercontinental championship, you could

570
00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:30.239
have one or the other, maybe
not both. Yeah, I don't know.

571
00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:32.760
I mean I think the AW stuff
definitely dilutes things, but I think

572
00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:37.760
there's way too many men men's championships. I mean, that's where I think

573
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:43.079
the women they're a little bit better
structured, where it's a top title,

574
00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:46.960
a secondary title, and WWE has
tag titles. AW doesn't. It's the

575
00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:52.239
men's divisions in AW that I think
screw things up for like too many titles.

576
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:55.920
Honestly, Yeah, no, that
I don't disagree with. I mean

577
00:38:57.159 --> 00:39:00.760
honestly, because they're saying, like
which AW women's title is more import the

578
00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:05.719
TBS or the women's It's just because
of you got Britt Baker and Mercedes Monett

579
00:39:05.760 --> 00:39:09.199
feuding for the TBS championship, and
those are your two biggest stars in your

580
00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:14.519
division. So it's kind of like
it like, is that really the secondary

581
00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:21.480
title? But in WWE, there's
a good women's roster, and I think

582
00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:24.400
if you're gonna bring up some women
from NXT, whether it's a Roxamperez or

583
00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:29.280
Lolo Vice or you know whoever.
You know, j C. James been

584
00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:31.639
down there forever, Gigi Dolan's been
down there forever. You can always bring

585
00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:35.599
back Mandy Rose. At this point, if you bring some of one of

586
00:39:35.679 --> 00:39:37.960
my main rosters, then you have
the depth. But then does that take

587
00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:42.840
away from do you have to start
featuring more people? And does that lose

588
00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:45.880
some really good storylines in some other
areas. So it's it's one of those

589
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:51.000
things where like maybe just have one
secondary title to help build somebody up,

590
00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:53.760
Like I don't know if you need
both. Interesting. I'll be interesting if

591
00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:58.039
they if they move forward with that, because right now everything's kind of rumored

592
00:39:58.079 --> 00:40:00.920
or up in the air. The
other story I wanted to bring up here

593
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:07.280
is that recently Paul Triple A c
levec Tea's upcoming changes in WWE, and

594
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:10.559
this comes to us from Wrestling In
as well. Triple H was speaking at

595
00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:14.920
the Money in the Bank twenty twenty
four post press conference, and the game

596
00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:17.400
went into detail about w planning and
head towards making more changes to NXC in

597
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:21.800
the fall. He also explained that
over time, the audience will see various

598
00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:24.719
differences to Raw and SmackDown as we
inch closer to December, saying, quote,

599
00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:29.559
we're just getting started. I really
feel like that we got a whole

600
00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:31.159
fall thing coming up with CW for
NXT, which, by the way,

601
00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:35.480
Sean is just killing it right now, whether that's talent development, recruitment,

602
00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:37.079
NXC in general. I can't say
enough good stuff about him. I'm in

603
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:40.000
awe of what they're doing down there, when they move to CW, when

604
00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:44.119
SmackDown makes the move to the USA, when Raw makes the move to Netflix.

605
00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:46.119
We're just getting rolling. We're lining
up all this stuff that's going to

606
00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:51.119
happen. A lot of changes you
see now, we're slow rolling things out

607
00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:52.119
when we get to the Fall,
when we get to the Winner, there's

608
00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:57.440
going to be a lot so interesting. Like he's saying, there's changes,

609
00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:00.480
like how do you interpret that doctor
trade? Do you think he's saying this?

610
00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:05.159
Like the production and the elements of
it are going to make it look

611
00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:08.039
like it's own separate show and promotion, which we've kind of been clamoring for

612
00:41:08.079 --> 00:41:12.800
where it all didn't look the same. What do you think the changes are

613
00:41:12.920 --> 00:41:17.840
for Ross SmackDown in NXC that Triple
H was very vague about we're bringing back

614
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:21.719
all the purple ropes from two to
five live. They've got a warehouse full

615
00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:27.320
of purple tape. Yeah, let's
go there, you go. So to

616
00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:30.159
me, it is going to be
like giving each show its own feel.

617
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:34.280
I think it's going to be like
the production, the lighting, you know,

618
00:41:34.320 --> 00:41:37.920
a lot of things like that.
I mean, you can't really change

619
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:40.320
the rosters that much. I know, I read a report. I'm sure

620
00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:43.599
you just see that Netflix is saying, hey, you either got to have

621
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:47.519
Roman Reigns or Cody Roads on Raw
when Netflix when we go to Netflix.

622
00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:52.440
So I there might be some tweaks
the roster, but to me, really

623
00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:55.559
it is going to come down to
how the shows feel like. That's one

624
00:41:55.639 --> 00:42:00.199
thing about AW is that Collision does
not feel like Dynah. It feels like

625
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:05.719
they are separate shows in the sense
of how it's you know, put together

626
00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:09.760
and shot in camera angles like that. We saw that a lot back when

627
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:13.320
Black eight up, when NXC,
Black and Goals going on, like Black

628
00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:17.280
and Gold felt like its own separate
entity as compared to Raw and SmackDown,

629
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:20.559
and I think that's one of the
ways that I want to go. It's

630
00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:22.480
like, hey, we want RAW
to be its own show, have its

631
00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:27.679
own vibe, its own feels smacked
Down the same way NXT there it's its

632
00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:30.440
own thing as well. And then
who knows, they might buy out TNA

633
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:36.360
and make TNA their own show as
well. Switching gears to All Lead Wrestling,

634
00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:42.840
there have been some reports lately in
regards to AW creatively has been really

635
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:45.119
really well. I would say the
last thirty four weeks it has been great

636
00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:50.880
again. Coming to us from Wrestling
Wrestling, Inc. Via the Wrestling Server

637
00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:57.199
newsletter, Dave Melterer had some notes
about both QT Marshall and oh god,

638
00:42:57.239 --> 00:43:00.920
what's her name, Peppermin Jennifer Pepperman. So recently they have been recruited to

639
00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:05.239
kind of focus a little bit more
on the creative process there, and he

640
00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:09.840
said how they have settled in their
rules for AW. Marshall has been more

641
00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:14.400
hands on, Peppermint has been more
hands on with the women's division, and

642
00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:16.119
I just want to say that,
like, it's incredible. It's very noticeable

643
00:43:16.119 --> 00:43:22.199
Doctor Trey that the creative team and
All Lead wrestling has been more organized,

644
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:25.000
more focused, and it's better execution
as of late. And it appears from

645
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:30.119
what Melts are saying here you can
say that because of what q T.

646
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:35.800
Marshall and Jennifer Pepperman are doing behind
the scenes. What are your thoughts on

647
00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:38.920
aw's creative as of late and is
it is it playing out as well as

648
00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:43.559
I have seen it as of late
from your viewpoint? So let me get

649
00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:45.960
this right. So, when the
inmates are not running the asylum, the

650
00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:51.559
asylum runs better. Like that's it's
like, hey, we actually have you

651
00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:55.400
know, some people in place to
do checks and balances to make sure things

652
00:43:55.440 --> 00:44:01.800
are coherent and make sense, and
we're not stopping in starting things Like the

653
00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:07.639
creative has been much better. It's
been our biggest knock on AW for the

654
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:12.119
last three years. Four years has
been stop and start storyline, stop and

655
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:15.440
start angles. This guy's a heeled
next to their babyface. Two heeks later

656
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:21.440
they're back to being a heel.
It feels more cohesive over the last couple

657
00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:24.400
of months. So if that,
if it's because of Pepperman and Marshall,

658
00:44:24.440 --> 00:44:30.360
like keep doing it, because it
does feel a lot better and feels more

659
00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:34.159
like an actual wrestling show other than
just you know, the super indie show

660
00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:36.880
that we used to knock it for. And then the last thing when it

661
00:44:36.880 --> 00:44:38.360
comes to AW. We've mentioned it
several times when we were talking about the

662
00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:43.199
first half of the year so far
in twenty twenty four. Last night,

663
00:44:43.320 --> 00:44:46.920
MGF defeats will Ospry to win the
AW International Championship on AW Donamite two fifty

664
00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:53.119
in a fifty nine minute, fifty
eight second match for a sixty minute time

665
00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:58.320
limit, Doctor Trey, I watched
the entire thing. You watch the entire

666
00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:04.400
thing. Your thoughts on it?
Yeah, twelve sixteen hours later. It

667
00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:07.599
was a fantastic match, and you
heard it earlier. It's up for Match

668
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:10.599
of the year. Just super well
done match. Even some of my knocks

669
00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:13.920
on it would be like stuff like, oh, let's let's throw a styles

670
00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:15.559
clash in the middle of it.
Let's say you know those things is for

671
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:19.840
what it was, It was fantastic. My only knock on it would be

672
00:45:21.800 --> 00:45:24.679
why isn't this at like double or
nothing or all in or like this should

673
00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:30.480
be like a headlining pay per view
match, not the opening of Dynamite two

674
00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:36.519
fifty, Like it's just once again. Sometimes the placement of things don't make

675
00:45:36.559 --> 00:45:39.320
sense. If I want people to
buy into a show, wouldn't I want

676
00:45:39.360 --> 00:45:45.199
my two biggest headliners facing off for
the first time ever headlining a sixty dollars

677
00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:50.000
show instead of a free show.
That's my only criticism is just save it

678
00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:52.559
like you had enough. You had
the stuff at the Garcia and I'll spreak

679
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:54.519
up in a save and da da
da da. Could have saved it for

680
00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:59.519
the next pay per view and made
people buy into it and developed some story

681
00:45:59.599 --> 00:46:02.800
leading in to it and got more
people to buy your pay per views other

682
00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:07.119
than putting on because there's the thing
after that matches over, Jeff, I

683
00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:08.760
honestly wanted to go ahead and go
okay, cool, I saw the most

684
00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:13.119
important thing. I can flip it
off now if I wanted to. But

685
00:46:13.199 --> 00:46:15.719
we do the podcast and I couldn't
do it, but easily if you're a

686
00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:20.360
casual fan. I saw MGF and
Osbray go sixty minutes over the show.

687
00:46:21.039 --> 00:46:23.639
Is there anything else in this episode
that's going to top that? Probably not,

688
00:46:24.039 --> 00:46:28.360
so need to watch. First off, I thought the match was good.

689
00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:30.280
I don't have it in there as
a match the year Cannon. I

690
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:34.719
thought it was really good. But
I think there's been other ospry matches I've

691
00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:37.719
seen in the AW this year that
I enjoyed more than the one with MJF.

692
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:40.239
And I felt like that they went
sixty minutes to say that they win

693
00:46:40.360 --> 00:46:44.679
sixty minutes. Nonetheless, it is
a match end of the year you look

694
00:46:44.719 --> 00:46:49.480
back at top top ten. In
my vantage point, I would say I

695
00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:54.159
felt putting it on AW Dynamite.
It was a complete two threefold here.

696
00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:57.440
One, it was AW died in
my two to fifty. So they wanted

697
00:46:57.440 --> 00:47:00.280
to have a big show, so
they gave us that match. They gave

698
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:02.639
us Swear versus Okada, which is
a dream match for me as a wrestling

699
00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:07.400
fan, for free. And they
also gave Mercedes Monet versus Nila Rose,

700
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:10.199
which is not a dream match,
no disrespect, not a dream match,

701
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:15.400
So they gave us all that.
That's one. More importantly, there is

702
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:21.119
media rights deals coming up with Warner
Brothers, Discovery and AAW, and I

703
00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:23.400
think they wanted to put on a
show for them and show them the quality

704
00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:28.639
that they could put out there.
Additionally, I would say that this was

705
00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:32.679
done for viewership purposes. That viewership
number is going to be very interesting,

706
00:47:34.320 --> 00:47:37.920
especially as it goes on in that
first hour. If it starts off red

707
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:43.280
hot and they drop off, problem. If it starts red hot and they

708
00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:46.599
go up, not a problem.
There was a lot of things in play,

709
00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:50.159
and I think again, one of
the reasons I'll throw this out here

710
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:53.039
and this is just the way that
I view professional wrestling. Why I don't

711
00:47:53.079 --> 00:47:58.400
consider it a Match of the Year
candidate right now is because I like watching

712
00:47:58.400 --> 00:48:01.320
the whole match front to back on
my screen without any interruptions. When a

713
00:48:01.360 --> 00:48:05.639
commercial comes on, I'm not sitting
there watching picture and picture. I'm getting

714
00:48:05.719 --> 00:48:08.119
up. I'm either scrolling through on
the DVR if I'm not watching it live,

715
00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:12.039
or if i'm watching it live,
I'm grabbing something to eat, grabbing

716
00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:15.960
a drink, something like That's that's
me. When I'm sitting down i'm watching

717
00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:19.840
pl I'm watching a pay per view
where there's no commercial interruptions. I'm appreciating

718
00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:21.960
the match a lot more. I
thought there was too much start and stop

719
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:25.639
from my ADHD mind to enjoy it
as a match of your candidate. But

720
00:48:25.679 --> 00:48:30.559
those are some of my takeaways from
that match. Doctor Try Yeah. I

721
00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:32.679
mean, I think I'm a bigger
MJF Mark than you. Where you're more

722
00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:36.440
of the Osprey marks. For me
to have Ospray and MJF is kind of

723
00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:39.199
like, I'm not an ocada guy, so swerving o'cada. I'm like,

724
00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:44.760
yeah, that seems fine, it'll
be fun. But you know MJF and

725
00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:46.960
Ospray considering their promo battles. For
me, I was like, I was

726
00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:50.920
all in on that one just begin
the show. But like I said earlier,

727
00:48:50.960 --> 00:48:53.840
like I get it, you're trying
to get meteor rights. But if

728
00:48:53.880 --> 00:49:00.599
you're trying to get the negotiations done, you're a television show. You're not

729
00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:05.039
a sports show at the end of
the day, like we saw last week

730
00:49:05.079 --> 00:49:07.840
with the Mariah made Tony storm ending. You're a TV show, So put

731
00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:15.000
on the best television show you can
and that will help keep viewership. And

732
00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:19.280
it's not all over the roller coastering. So to me, I'm like,

733
00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:22.400
you could they could have done something
and done some kind of screwed up angle

734
00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:25.320
and pissed people off, but guess
what. Pissed off people typically will tune

735
00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:30.679
back in if you if now there's
the go away pissed off like WCWTN where

736
00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:35.960
people just went away and never came
back. But there's screwjob finishes where you're

737
00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:37.360
like, oh my god, I
can't believe they did that. What's gonna

738
00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:42.679
happen next week because of MJF,
you know, doing something ridiculous to get

739
00:49:42.679 --> 00:49:45.559
out of the match or steal the
title or whatever. There are ways to

740
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:49.639
do it to make it a good
television show, to then lead up to

741
00:49:49.800 --> 00:49:52.760
another match at a pay per view, or stall it to get to the

742
00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:57.239
pay per view match down the road, because right now you don't have a

743
00:49:57.280 --> 00:50:02.360
subscription based content like WWIS, you
do depend on pay per view buys to

744
00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:06.800
supplement your income because it's still a
big part of aw And. I think

745
00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:10.039
they missed the boat having two matches
that should be headlining pay per views be

746
00:50:10.119 --> 00:50:14.079
given away for free. And I
don't mean the Nyler Rose and I don't

747
00:50:14.079 --> 00:50:16.800
mean the Nyla roseme versus moment A
match as one of those two. The

748
00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:22.280
finish, I will say, was
really well done, and the match itself

749
00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:28.320
makes sense for their storyline going forward
with will Osprayin and MGFF, which I

750
00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:30.480
would imagine carry is over as a
title match at aw all In, So

751
00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:35.199
that does make sense to me.
It was a fun match, but I

752
00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:37.440
hate where it's like, all right, picture and picture after this, And

753
00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:38.920
there was a couple of times they
actually it was not picture and picture and

754
00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:43.079
it was just straight up commercial breaks, which I feel like for the viewer

755
00:50:43.079 --> 00:50:46.159
at home does take away from it
a little bit. But I'm we're sitting

756
00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:50.960
here recording for the viewership and the
breakdown of the segments comes out. I'm

757
00:50:51.320 --> 00:50:54.960
really intrigued to see how that plays
out for that specific match. With that

758
00:50:55.039 --> 00:50:58.119
said, let's get a couple of
plugs in spots of the way as we

759
00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:00.639
close up shop on this week's edition
of SR You can download the show every

760
00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:05.559
Thursday or Friday at Realguardradio dot com, Wressell chatnett on X and the star

761
00:51:05.639 --> 00:51:07.400
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762
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763
00:51:12.159 --> 00:51:15.480
SRTU Jeff, and for Doctor Trey
Franklin at The Doctor Trey and of course

764
00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:19.119
don't freath to follow a show on
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765
00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:22.239
said, what's going on the wonderful
world of Doctor Trey Franklin this week?

766
00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:24.760
Well, like Jeff said, you
can follow me on x at the Doctor

767
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:29.320
Trey. You can find me on
Instagram and Facebook Doctor Trey Franklin. When

768
00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:31.719
you're on Facebook, be sure to
check out Rockety Championship Wrestling. We have

769
00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:37.079
a big show coming up this Saturday
with the Shawn Shocker Evans Memorial Cup Tournament

770
00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:39.400
coming up. For those of you
who don't know, Sean was one of

771
00:51:39.400 --> 00:51:42.960
the original trainers of Kurt Angle.
He was really big in the scene in

772
00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:45.639
Pittsburgh but helped bring along a lot
of the young town that came out of

773
00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:52.280
that area in the late nineties early
two thousands and headline this year Chase Owens

774
00:51:52.599 --> 00:51:55.840
from Bullet Club from New Japan for
wrestling. We'll be in the tournament this

775
00:51:55.920 --> 00:52:00.639
year as well, so we're really
excited about having Chase involved. But more

776
00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:02.239
poorly, just gohea and check out
your local independent wrestling shows as well.

777
00:52:02.440 --> 00:52:06.400
If you can't make it to Alabama
to see us, go out and see

778
00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:08.559
the you know, the people in
your own neck of the woods and heck,

779
00:52:08.599 --> 00:52:13.440
those guys might be headlining AW three
hundred or AW four hundred or you

780
00:52:13.440 --> 00:52:15.599
know, giving away stuff for free. There you are all the great stuff

781
00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:20.559
here that supports the sr T you
go out there and support all that as

782
00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:23.039
well. Thank you for downloading,
spread the word about the stile Realta show.

783
00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:27.119
Don't forget to rate, review and
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784
00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:30.880
please help spat the word once again
and until next week. For doctor Trey

785
00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:35.599
Franklin, I'm Jeff Beck. This
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