Oct. 26, 2023
Who Should Be Sting's Last Opponent? | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #715 – 10/26/23
On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:
- -- Who should be Sting's last opponent at AEW Revolution 2024?
- -- How much should we be appreciating this time with John Cena on WWE TV?
- -- Could Will Ospreay end up being WWE bound?
- -- And TNA...
On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:
- -- Who should be Sting's last opponent at AEW Revolution 2024?
- -- How much should we be appreciating this time with John Cena on WWE TV?
- -- Could Will Ospreay end up being WWE bound?
- -- And TNA Wrestling is returning!
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It's still welcome. Everybody welcome.
So this week's edition is no Real,
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no Show. Epis number seven hundred
and fifteen for October twenty six, twenty
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twenty three. Welcomes. In this
week's edition of s R, she you,
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I am one after the show,
I am Jeff pack joined every single
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week, likes one one doctor Trey
Franklin, Doctor Trey. If you were
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retiring, who would be your last
opponent? My friend? Ooh, who
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would have my last opponent be?
Woopy Goldberg? I thought you were gonna
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go with Tom Arnold. No,
I always liked Tom Arnold, but Whoopy's
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up there? I mean, I
like, I like her, but then
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I could say, hey I beat
Goldberg. Hmmm, streak ended. Yeah.
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So I don't do you have any
people, like, any celebrities that
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you just absolutely dislike. That's a
tough one, Jackson Mahomes that you use
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in terms celebrity very very loosely,
dude. Anybody with like a phone and
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a YouTube channel nowadays is being considered
celebrities like I don't even know who half
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of these these people are. So
funny, funny side story, So I
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uh with with my job. I've
been constantly hiring people and doing interviews and
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things like that. And I'm actually
having an interview tomorrow with a guy for
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a part time job with this,
and I asked him, Hey, so,
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uh, you know, are you
currently working anywhere? What's your availability?
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Like He's like, oh, no, I'm pretty wide open. I
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do TikTok. I did not know
that was actually I mean, I get
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that some people make money off of
it, but I did not know that
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you guys, you put that on
your resume to impress an employer. Yeah.
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I guess if the employer was that
like YouTube or X or Facebook,
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maybe they would be impressed. I
don't know if content creator for your line
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of work would be something I'd be
like, damn, you are highly qualified,
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my friend. I mean, I
don't even put this on my resume.
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We've been doing this for you know, twelve years. Yeah. Oh,
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by the way, I would say, if I'm going off really high
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end celebrities, I would say probably
maybe it's weird. I used to love
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Jimmy Kimmel and now I can't stand
him, So kim would be on my
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list. See that's surprising because I
think Jimmy Kimmel's a very likable guy.
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He's a very likable guy. But
I think it's because every time I watch
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him, like the jokes are always
political, and I'm like, all right,
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can we joke about anybody else,
like I don't know or anything else
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to anything else. So but outside
of that, I don't really know.
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There's anybody else that I just really
can't stand. So yeah, I mean
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any Yeah, but you're rather anybody
in the YouTube TikTok twitch where like that's
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their main source of income. Four
years ago, logan Paul would be towards
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the top of my list, and
now not so much. He does other
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stuff and he takes risks about getting
punched in the face repeatedly, so I
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gotta give him credit for that.
Yeah, total hat tip, Tam.
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I mean, he's a freak athlete. I think he is certainly one over
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wrestling fans based on his performance and
care of being a in rank performer in
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Worldwisy Entertainment as we've seen as of
late. We'll be getting ready for him
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and his next match as we will
preview and predict w Crown Jewel on next
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week's edition of SRTU kicked off the
show asking who would be Doctor Trey's last
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opponent if he were to be retiring. It was announced on last week's AW
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Dynamite that Sting will be retiring at
AW Revolution twenty twenty four. It'll be
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three years since his initial debut for
All Lee Wrestling. He debuted in twenty
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twenty December twenty twenty at Winters Coming, then had his first entering match at
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AW Revolution in twenty twenty four,
actually be in twenty twenty one, so
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he's retiring three years later. The
run in AW has been really good,
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a good way to end his career
in my opinion, coming off of the
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initial retirement from his twenty fifteen WWE
Hall of Fame speech or twenty sixteen,
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but it was big news. We
are recording this during AW Dynamite from last
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night, depending on when you're listening
to this, if you're listening to it
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on Thursday. So we have no
idea what the gift that Tony Kahan has.
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First thing is, if I had
a guess, it's it's a huge
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plush toy of a penguin, because
Sting loves penguins. But you know,
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obviously the big discussion now Doctor Trey
and AW has about four months to really
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think about this three and a half
four months. Who should be Sting's last
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opponent as we approach AW Revolution February
twenty twenty four. Who gets the nod
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to help end the career of the
man called Sting. By the way,
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does Tony Kahn have a life size
Sting slam like slam Buddy or whatever they're
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called. I would assume so,
Yeah, Okay, I mean I just
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saw them on clearance their day at
Walmart. I almost bought Samy Franklin one.
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But for me, I mean you've
got to look on like, hey,
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can we build on the Sting legacy? Can we help somebody get over
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even more? And right now I
go at Darby. I mean it's the
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mentor mentee, teachers student type story. AW doesn't always do the traditional bad
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guy good guy storylines. I just
don't really know if there's anybody else in
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the company that could really benefit from
beating Sting in his farewell match. Do
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they have to beat Sting? No? But I think if getting that NOD
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in that match could be just as
equal to getting the win. Yeah.
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But if I'm not mistaken, I
think Sting's undefeated since he came to AW.
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I don't think they've lost any of
these tag matches. So I mean,
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if you're gonna I would say,
if you're going to give the nod
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to somebody, I would give it
to Derby. But once again, Darby
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was also seeing Punk's first opponent in
aw if I'm not mistaken, So I
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mean, it is a little bit
of a nod. But do you do
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an MJF. Do you give you
know, you give Stick a chance to
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win a championship in his last match
before he goes off into the sunset.
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You know, me personally, I
would just do Derby just because the fact
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that Darby's gonna be kind of continuing
the Sting legacy and it's, you know,
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kind of a passing of the torch, if you will. As Sting
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rides off into the sunset at age
sixty five, holy cow, he looks
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great. He looks right for his
age. Darby Allen is obviously the odds
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on favorite right now. To receive
that nod, it would almost be criminal
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at this point unless they do the
match in the next three and a half
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four months that after all this time
of pairing Darby instinct together that he does
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not get that nod for the torch
passing moment. Of taking Nonstin in his
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final match. I know some other
names that are being thrown out there.
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I saw someone trying to make a
case for Rick Flair Lord love him,
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but Nope, don't want to see
that. I love you and h but
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don't want to see that again.
I think from a dream standpoint, Adam
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Copeland Edge would be pretty cool.
I can't really think of many more.
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Omega, maybe Jericho. I can't. It's a very small list. To
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me. It's like Darby Allen,
then underneath Darby Allen is the one that
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makes sense. It's like top of
the list and then everything else underneath.
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It would be like the dream match
of Adam Copeland, Kenny Omega, what
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have you to be like taking on
Sting in that final match? Stan Jericho
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cross paths once so far at a
wan A tag match, right or he
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did? Yeah? Yeah, So
I mean that's up there. I mean
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just because yeah, I just don't
know if like you also got ever like
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some of these guys, you also
have to kind of go, hey,
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who can work a match to still
help Sting look good? I mean they've
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been very careful about who they've had
Sting in the ring with, you know,
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and the and the guys that weren't
great workers. They did kind of
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like the cinematic matches to kind of
edit a little bit. So my only
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word about Darby's Darby goes so fast
in the ring, like will that make
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a deep because he wants stings match
to be good, a good quality match
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you don't want to be you know, you don't look and go God that
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that last match the sting was horrible. But I mean he's got, you
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know, forty year career, but
to your god, the last matches back.
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So he wanted to be somebody that's
a good worker, can change the
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I mean, Orge Cassie would be
good just because we've seen him work so
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many different guys in different styles,
and he can change his style to fit
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his opponent as well. You know, we've seen Orge Cassy have good matches
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with the younger guys, the older
guys ever, you know, I mean
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he's wrestled with everybody from Jericho at
Moxley all the way down to like the
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govar Is and the Garcias. So
you want somebody that can kind of cross
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those lines. I mean, Edge
an sting would be a great Sorry,
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Adam Copeland, a sting would be
a great sendoff match, but it doesn't.
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It does more for a younger guy's
career than it does for somebody like
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Adam Copeland. M. Yeah,
now I'm with you. To me,
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I think it's like a ninety percent
chance right now that it's Darby. I
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mean, I just can't see it
being anybody else. It would it makes
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so much sense, it makes too
much sense that if AW didn't do it,
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I think it would be criminal.
Again, like the only way they
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get away with is if they've run
some sort of angle that Darby says,
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you know, before you retire,
I want to face shoot one on one,
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like I need to know if I
can go toe to toe with Sting
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rather than being the final match,
it would be like can I, you
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know, hang with you in the
ring one on one. So it's I
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don't know, it's a bit sad, but it's also something that you expect.
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You expect that the clock was winding
down on Sting at any point during
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his run in AW, and it's
it's been a very I mean, it's
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not his run in Impact Wrestling TNA
towards the end. The run in w
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WI obviously did not get enough ground. He only had what two three matches
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in w W you for getting hurt
and having to retire. This has been
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protected by tag team matches, and
it seems like they always have to do
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one major spot where he's jumping off
of something very high up in the air.
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But overall, as a character,
the way he's been used, the
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way he has been lies on the
mic in segments and storylines in matches has
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been pretty perfect. And it's very
easy to uh to bust the chops of
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aw creative, especially as of late, but I think they've done a really
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good job of protecting his character and
ending it the right way. So I'm
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happy from going out on his terms
the way that it should have been six
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seven years ago with w WIE and
unfortunately did not work out. And again
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it just seems like it's a slam
dunk that's gonna be Darby Allen Doctor Trey.
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Yeah. I mean, I'm still
trying to think of alterna. I
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mean there's nobody he has, you
know, I mean Jeff Jarrett he has
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history with from TNA and WCW.
But I mean could Jarrett be the Stings
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last match and Rick Flair's last match, I mean, that's that'd be pretty
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awesome, Mike. I was thinking
about this as you were talking, though,
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is like, with Sting retiring,
does he stay a Philly with AW
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or does he go, Hey,
you know that Legends deal that those guys
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have other pretty sweet as well.
I can still makes some money going for
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I just don't think Stings they,
you know, make some more money kind
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of guy. No, I don't
think he is either, And I think
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that run in w WE kind of
was a little bit of a bitter taste
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in his mouth. Yeah. My
understanding is that he did have a good
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relationship with them still they he did
let his Legends contract run out, and
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that's why he was going back to
AW. I think he's going to be
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loyal AW ultimately, though, Doctor
Truck. I mean, he doesn't owe
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w wee anything and he doesn't owe
the fans anything because he did he did
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the w W thing for a very
very short period of time. He had
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a match at WRESTLEMANI which we were
all dying to see. He got rightfully
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placed in the Hall of Fame and
then got hurt, unfortunately, and they
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didn't really do much with him after
that, and he was still quasi under
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contract. He was just doing stuff
for like network specials or documentaries, which
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is kind of lame when you have
freaking Sting available at your fings as AW
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really really utilize extremely well. So
I think he'll remain loyal to AW,
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and I think ultimately we just need
to obviously take these next couple of months
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and appreciate everything that's going on with
Sting. If you weren't appreciating this run
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all writing AW, shame on you. And now these next couple months totally
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open arms. Be appreciative of what's
going on. And if you have the
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opportunity to go see Sting live one
last time, whether it be Dynamite Collision
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tapings, live events, or if
he is wrestling somehow over the next four
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months prior to AW Revolution, I
think that's something that most fans, if
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they have the opportunity to go see, should go out there and absolutely do
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it. So Sting wrapping up his
career as announced this last Wednesday night at
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AW Revolution in February March time,
so someone we'll keep an eye on who
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will be that last opponent for Sting. Speaking of appreciation, Doctor Trey,
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I was watching SmackDown this past week. John Seen is in the ring and
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I just thought to myself, man, we have got to be appreciating this
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time. Like Sena has been on
WE television for probably maybe a month longer
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than I expected. When he initially
returned, I thought that the strike was
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going to end and then he would
be back doing the Hollywood thing and we
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would see him come and go maybe
around wrestlming in a summer stam season again
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or here and there, keep a
streak alive of having a match every year
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in WE. And I mean,
he's been working as a regular performer lately
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and it's been fun to see.
It's there's been times where he's been a
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little bit too cartoony. But I
just thought to myself this past Friday,
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as I was watching this back down, I'm like, man, we really
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need to appreciate what the hell's going
on with John Cena right now. So,
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I mean, I simply ask you, doctor Dray, how much do
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you appreciate this time of John Cena
being back? And how much should wrestling
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fans be appreciating this time of John
Cena being back? You know, the
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funny thing to me is when you
look over all the legends that we've had
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come through w over the years,
and think about when their careers are winding
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down, where they really helping get
the next wave of guys over. And
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you can look at Scene seem's been
good doing this going back to when he
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had the US title of the US
Open US Open Challenge that he understands the
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business. He understands that it's always
a continuance. There is no you know,
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there's no re you know, no
rebuild, you know, like like
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you know, like your packers are
going with with changing quarterbacks like that.
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It's kind of you know, it
just continues on and you want to make
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sure the next guy is in place
to take your spot. And that's the
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proper way to do it. And
Scene is in a great job of that.
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We just saw it, you know, with him helping get l a
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Night Over even more. And now
we're seeing him, you know, working
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with Solo Socoa. Like the fact
that he's still able to go out there.
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We saw at Wrestle Media getting like
letting Austin Theory beat him a Wrestle
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Media like you know, Santa has
creative control. He could have at any
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point said no, no, no, I'm not letting get beat me and
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beat me pretty clean. He did
it because of the right thing to do.
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So the guy's just a tremendous like
he's a tremendous asset to the world
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of professional wrestling. By the way, for you and I longtime wrestling fans,
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how cool is it to see I
don't if he's on Facebook, but
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the the uh Sena Umaga to Sina
Solos to CoA stuff. No, it
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was, it was just kind of
it was just somebody was like they did
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kind of a slow motion like fade
in and fade out of Sina being face
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to face with Umaga. Then you
see Omaga fade out and then Solo's face
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kind of fades into him like man
like just you know, like Solo's character
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was based a lot on what Umaga
does, Like that's what Triple Ah's idea
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for the Solo character was. And
now you see a guy like John Cena,
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who had battles with Umaga, squaring
off against you know, his nephew
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Solo, and it's it's just those
comparisons are really really cool. So just
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the fact that he's out there working
with everybody, trying to help the company
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as best as he can, still
doing all the main wish stuff, you
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know, still you know popping up
on movies that he did, like,
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you know, a year ago,
Like there's a trailer for something I saw
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today he popped out, And I'm
like, guys on the hardest workers in
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all of entertainment, and so you
gotta give him a ton of credit,
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Like he could have just taken this
time off and set at home and Scrooge
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McDuck didn't count his money, and
no, he's like, I'm gonna go
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back to wrestling. It's my first
love. I'm we go back and I'm
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gonna help some guys out and then
when the actor strikes over, I'll get
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back to acting like the guy's just
a hard worker and a credit to professional
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wrestling, whether you like the scene
of character or not, Like he's just
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a good dude when it comes to
the professional wrestling business. So he's been
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back for like eight weeks now,
maybe at best six seven eight weeks,
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and I think he's helped push along
La Night, Jimmy Usso and Solasakoa and
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maybe I'm missing anybody else here,
but I feel like that has been his
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focus since returning, and you can
tell that him just being involved with those
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guys has helped elevate the game.
So it's really cool to see him giving
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back and helping elevate some of these
stars that they are trying to break out
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and push up the main event ladder
like he has because he does not need
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to do that. Let me,
like we seen has made his money.
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He does not need to be back
in professional wrestling right now. We've seen
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that with plenty of people that have
gone to Hollywood, and you know,
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he's not as successful as maybe Dwayne
Johnson right now, but he's been successful
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and he he doesn't need to come
back. And if you look at the
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entire scope of the year, including
Austin theory, same thing. He's really
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helping elevate people. And it's cool
to see and I'm just appreciative it because
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I don't think we ever get this
weekly, multiple months stretch of John Cena
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on WE Television ever again. Yeah, I mean, unless there's another Reard
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random strike. So Seena as a
movie actor, would you say he's B
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list, Like, I don't mean
I'm a but he's not an A list.
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He's not a IT B. Yeah, maybe I'm not a big movie
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guy. I know he was involved
in the Barbie movie, which obviously was
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big over the summer. But I
think that was at like a small role
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he actually asked to be in that
supposedly. Yeah, I think there was
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like a weird thing like he just
randomly was on set or so there's a
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weird story about that. I think
you're right, But uh yeah, I
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guess B list. But his name
is so recognizable. Like if I tell
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family members or friends of mine,
like, name one professional wrestler from like
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the last twenty years, they may
go Rock or stone Hold, but seen
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us on that list. If I
tell anybody like do you know who Johnson
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is? They they immediately know.
And that's like most Americans in this country.
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Yeah, I mean you think about
like he's been the he's been the
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last two Fast in the Furious movies. He's in a Transformer movie. He's
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did that was it? Uh?
Oh? Was it Friends Vacation or like
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like like super Core. But the
Peacemakers Show is great. So but I
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I you know, he's not you
know, getting twenty five million dollars a
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picture like The Rock or you know
some of those A list guys. But
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yeah, I would definitely think he's
probably like a B list actor. Like
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if we can't get The Rock,
you called John Cena. What do you
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think of that statistic that they're obviously
running with from SmackDown this past week that
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he has not won a singles match
in five years? That's mind blowing,
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right, I yeah, because I
did not realize that it had been that
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long. But how long was he? He had almost a year where he
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didn't compete? You lost that like
you won that on or we lost it
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by like one day on your bold
prediction one year, like he wrestled on
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New Year's Eve. I think it
was that you said, He's yeah,
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yeah, yeah, yeah, that
was uh, I think it was last
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year, didn't That was the tag
match with Owens and him taking on?
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Was it Sammy and Roman? Yeah? Yeah, So yeah, that is
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crazy that he hasn't won a singles
match in five years or so. Obviously,
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it's it's it's believable because he's been
away for most of that time.
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But I mean, there was even
that stat that we talked about during WrestleMania
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season that his match with Austin Theory
was like his first real singles match in
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like seven or eight WrestleManias, because
that match with Bray Wyatt was more of
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a cinematic match and then did the
Undertake was the Undertaking? The Undertaker match
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was like unannounced because that's the one
I was at. It was thirty four.
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Yeah, yeah, so that was
right around the end of his last
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main singles run. So it is
a crazy statistic, uh so, But
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I mean, hell, you gotta
figure get one here. If he's gonna
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be around for I mean, the
Writer's strike, we don't know as hand.
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He's got to get one. Well. I mean, that's the thing
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is, they're billing him as the
greatest of all time right now, and
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I think in the history of this
podcast, especially in the early you know,
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first half of SRTU, I mean
we were still in John Cena being
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shoved down our throats in professional and
the fact that he hasn't been involved in
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like a world title match in WrestleMania
in a really long time. Christ I
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think that was twenty nine Wrestlemating twenty
nine was like his last championship match at
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WrestleMania, which is mind blowing.
And granted, yeah, we get it.
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He hasn't really been around all that
much in the last five years,
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but his last singles win was in
twenty eighteen. I mean, I don't
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think I would ever say those words
when we first started doing this podcast many
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moons ago. Yeah, but you
and I when we started this spot where
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when you and Eric and then me
like started the podcast, we were also
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in like, I don't think we
hate John Cena mode, but we were
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tired of John Cena. And then
when he went away for a limit and
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came back and that US title run
was actually kind of like got us back
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on the John Cena bandwagon. It
was like an after wrestlming in thirty one
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when he started feuding with Russev.
Yeah, run on SmackDown Live in twenty
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sixteen with A. J. Salles
was really good. Yeah. I mean
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I still every down then say way, we're gonna do they meet up John
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Ceno. So I still use that
line from you know, from Carl Anderston
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and Luke Gallows. Yeah. Like
the last world title match I remember was
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what him and Roman at SummerSlam two
years ago. Yeah, so that's probably
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the last. Well, No,
he had world title matches against AJ and
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obviously had a run as a champion
as well. Yeah. The WrestleMania stats
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like blows my mind because it was
what was like a stretch of like nine
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out of nine WrestleManias he was involved
in a world title match. I mean,
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robots streak is pretty close to that
too, because I mean, really
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yeah, Roman's been the world topics
for since thirty, since pretty much since
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thirty for the most part. Also
the Undertaker match. Well they've learned a
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lot from from Sina though, because
Roman is a heel now and obviously Roman
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is out of the championship for you
know, over three plus years, and
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I mean this could be a topic
for another day, but I'm not.
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I'm not tired of his title reign
like I was turning John Cena title rain.
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Yeah, well it's the Superman versus
the Joker type cinder, like,
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who do I do you like?
You know, bad people that have redeeming
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qualities or good guys that don't show
weakness. It's kind of hard, you
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know, or even Superman and Batman's
to that degree. But you know,
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it goes back to one of the
things that we are not allowed to talk
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about in this show, which was
why didn't they turn John Cena hill at
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some point to extend his run like
you've seen with Roman or even with Hogan
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days could have got a lot of
mileage out of that too, so but
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yeah, it's just I mean I'm
intrigued to see how how gracious he is
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through this and helping guys get over
because once again, if you're the goat,
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you got to I mean we talked, We just talking about Sting.
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Sting hasn't lost in aw in three
years, although you know limited run,
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John Cena really hasn't won a singles
match in five years, so kind of
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got get a couple. You know, reminds me these younger kids that you
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know, scene it can still go
and are you show if they have to?
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Yeah, yeah no, And it's
crazy going back on seeing the hill
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turn stuff. I mean he confirmed
that heading in WrestleMania twenty nine. They
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nearly executed that, Like a theme
music was made and like merchandise was made
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to prepare a heel turn for John
Cena and they never executed it. So
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I think ultimately we just appreciate what's
going with John Cena and is if he's
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on SmackDown or Raw this week,
you just appreciate if he's on Crown Jewel,
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Fast Laying Survivor series, what have
you just NXT television, just appreciate
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what's going on because in a moment's
notice scene. It could be gone again
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and be gone for a period of
time where he just pops up heading into
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WrestleMania or Summer Slam season. So
really cool to have John Cena back,
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and it's been it's been a lot
of fun having him back on television regularly
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in world wrestling entertainment. One name
that I did not think would ever end
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up one television that could end up
being WWE bound in twenty twenty four is
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UK based wrestler Will Osprey. On
the latest episode of The Rustling Observer Radio
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from Dave Meltzer, he spoke about
the current IWGP United States Faway and Champions
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saying the following quote, I know
some stuff. I mean, I know
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WWE's absolutely after him, and he's
absolutely going to listen to WA I think
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at the end of the day,
there's a lot of different things that could
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happen, but I think he's going
now for the best offer possible. He's
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got a family, he wants his
son to go to a good college.
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He wants to make money now,
and not that he hasn't made money.
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He's made money with New Japan and
on his indie shows, but obviously AWW
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are a step above money wise.
Earlier this past month, Meltzer suggested that
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Ospbrey would not sign a full time
deal with WE due to his reluctance to
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move away from the United Kingdom.
However, it now appears that Osprey would
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be willing to discuss a possible permanent
gig with the Stanford, Connecticut based promotion
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doctor Trey. Kind of surprising.
Do you think Will Osprey could be w
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bound? Yeah? I really do. I mean, he's got his in
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the water with you know, a
w He was just that balanced for glory,
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for impact, which I don't know
if you saw that match with him
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and Mike Bailey, but that was
a hell of a match. But I
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mean for a guy that was reluctant
to leave the UK, all you gotta
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do is look over at Gunther and
and see how well W's taking care of
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him. And that was a guy
that did not want to leave the United
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Kingdom. He wants to it is
in his area. And you know,
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hey, if we if we make
you a great deal and we promote the
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hell you we feature on our shows, you can make a lot more money.
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And if I mean seriously, there's
not a better place to work if
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you want to get a kid in
college, than WWE because the places have
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a lot of connections. I mean, hell Seae mcmhon's sons on a football
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script called scholarship to Indiana University right
now. I mean there's a lot of
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doors that can be opened by being
affiliated with the McMahons in a lot of
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ways when it comes to that stuff. So I mean, I let your
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kids is a genius and wants to
go to Oxford University. I mean,
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there's no reason to stay in the
UK if you come over here and make
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you know, generational money, and
a talent like Will Osprey could make generational
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money in WWE because the guys,
you know, we talked. I talked
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about this, I think about four
or five years. A guy I say,
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if he had to like thirty pounds
muscle, the guy'd be a main
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event star. And now you see
where he's at now and you're like,
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yeah, this guy could be a
main event guy. Great talker, great
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worker, has a good look,
cauldn't do everything he wants he done in
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a ring. That's the kind of
guys that maybe he wants to jump on
404
00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:29.519
and maximize the talent stuff. And
I'm sure they'll make an offer that he's
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going to have a hard time saying
notes it. So Osprey is contracted to
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New Japan par Wrestler portally until February
twenty twenty four, and then he is
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the latest name that will add himself
into a list of some powerful potential free
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agents for twenty twenty four. Rumored
reported names are MJF, the current AW
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World champion, obviously, Will Osprey, Seamus Becky Lynch, Drew McIntyre to
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name a few, could all be
coming up with their contracts all next year.
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I just named five names, Doctor
Trey. If you are running arrest
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in promotion tomorrow and these names are
presented to you as somebody that you could
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sign, is the first big name
some of those free agents who would be
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number one on your list right now? MJF because still wow, he can
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talk people and at least the best
talker of the group. And for as
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much as people hate the promos and
they hate Gaga and they hate the bad
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hat Lady Gaga, well I mean
sometimes, I mean she was a meat
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dress in your vegetarian you're gonna hate
her so but you know, it comes
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down to it, like the best
storyline we've seen the last three years of
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the Bloodline. A lot of that
stuff was the story and the promos,
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you know. I mean some of
the matches were great, but a lot
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of times I can't remember the matches. I just remember the story leading into
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it. So MJFF and we've seen
you know, the guy can wrestle.
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So if you can talk and you
can wrestle and put the call, you
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know, could put on some you
know, get some butts in the seats,
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you know they're gonna sign you up. So and plus he's the youngest
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of the group, so I could
have him for a lot longer in his
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prime than I could have Drew a
Shamus of Becky or will Ospbury. Well,
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Osprey's like thirty four now thirty five, so he's not the youngest guy
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the group. Maybe Drew and Seamus
are right around forty. And Becky's probably
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not gonna go anywhere because of you
know, her relationship with her husband.
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So I'd still bank on MGF because
that you know, when he comes up
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fhrazy, he's only gonna be like
twenty five, twenty six years old.
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You could him for a decade and
he's still being a sprime I'm a big
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Will Osprey fan. I think he
may be the best in the world right
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now, and I thought that he
was aw bound no matter what next year
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hearing, especially the reports earlier this
month that Osprey did not want to go
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to w W full time. I
love the comparison that you made there with
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gun through Doctor Tree, because that
was the big rumor as well, that
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00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:56.720
Gunthor did not want to go to
w W WII because he did not want
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to leave Germany, he didn't want
to leave Europe, was fine working in
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00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:03.839
nxc UK and then look at his
career. Now, maybe that's a blueprint
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for somebody like Will Osprey, but
it's very intriguing that it seemed like again
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a four gun conclusion that Osprey would
be aw bound one maybe Impact Wrestling too,
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and then a far stretch would be
WA. I think it speaks volumes
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at how W is doing right now
and their reach as of late creatively and
447
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:32.759
with their events. They just announced
earlier today Bash in Berlin for August of
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next year, premium live event in
Germany. He's just gonna be a premium
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live event in France. It appears
obviously that Osprey is entertaining WA and that
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is appealing to him, and I
can't blame him, because again, the
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roller coaster ride of AW is in
a unappealing level right now. As a
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wrestling fan, I still watch it. They still have their bright spots,
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but it just seems like it's in
a lull while w is putting out really
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good programming each and every week.
So should w WE get will Ospra,
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I mean that to me would be
the biggest, shocking, surprising signing that
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they've had since AJ Styles signed in
twenty sixteen. Yeah. Uh, And
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not to mention, don't forget there's
still NXT Europe is still supposed to be
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either coming back at the end of
twenty twenty four or early twenty twenty five.
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00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:24.799
So if you could see the process
and go, hey, we can
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00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:29.000
build this whole thing around will Osprey
so that way he doesn't have to leave
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Europe starting out until he gets used
to us kind of like you mentioned,
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like they do with Gunther, Why
wouldn't you take that risk as well?
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Like you have a bona fide international
star you could build a company around,
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and you could do that as well. So there's that, you know,
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little apple seed as well. Speaking
of Impact Wrestling, will Osper performed there
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this past weekend a Bound for Glory
twenty twenty three taking on Speedball Mike Bailey.
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I have not seen the match back
at all yet, is Doctor Trey
468
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:02.400
pointing out? A lot of people
are raving on it at the end of
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Bound for Glory, which, Doctor
Trey, You're always that Impact wrestling guy.
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I mean Bound for Glory is like
their Wrestlmania, right, Yeah,
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yeah, pretty much. So.
It was announced at the end of the
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pay per view that starting on January
thirteenth, twenty twenty four, would be
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Hard to Kill pay per view,
Impact Wrestling will be going back to its
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original total NonStop action TNA name.
I love this move, Doctor Trey,
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But what say you? You are
a bigger TNA Impact Wrestling fan than I
476
00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:37.039
am. I've not watched them in
the last two three years. I was
477
00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:44.240
big on them pre and then Enduring
and a little bit post Pandemic, so
478
00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:46.480
like twenty nineteen through twenty twenty one, I was watching them pretty regularly and
479
00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:52.720
enjoyed their programming each and every week. But you've been a longstanding fan of
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00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:57.000
that product. What are your thoughts
here as Impact shifts back to be in
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00:33:57.079 --> 00:34:00.839
TNA Oh, I think it's a
great move. I never liked the name
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00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:04.880
Impact Wrestling, Like if you go
back to when we first got show,
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00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:07.119
I used to poke fun at TNA
for having all their pay per views named
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00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:12.320
after Steven sigall movies Hard to Kill, mountfor Glory, Like they just all
485
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:15.960
saided like bad action movies. And
I even thought I thought Impact Wrestling just
486
00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:21.360
kind of sounded like a bad name
for a show, like Weird Condition as
487
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:27.280
wrestling fans to go with like three
letter names for wrestling companies. Uh So
488
00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:30.679
when TNA changed the Impact, I'm
like, that's gonna throw people off.
489
00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:35.119
Plus, at that point, you
already kind of built a brand. You
490
00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:37.880
didn't have to rename the company.
I mean, I mean, ww did
491
00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:42.519
it. They changed a letter and
people lost their freaking minds for like two
492
00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:45.760
years over it. So this is
a great move. It kind of harkens
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00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:50.920
back to those those early years.
You get a little bit of the warm
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00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:52.880
fuzzies. Plus it's just a fun
thing to say. I mean, I
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00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:58.320
hear TNA, I think of Eric
Bischoff in three minute Warnings. So but
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00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:01.480
TNA is just a fun name,
is so I applaud the move. It
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00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:07.840
makes it easier for fans to recognize
and you know, like it kind of
498
00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:10.960
brings the company back full circle and
from an install just standpoint right, like
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00:35:12.039 --> 00:35:15.679
people are down with that. Yeah, I want to, Like I said,
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like you think of all the great
wrestling companies, like the Ring of
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00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:22.679
Honor is probably the exception because most
people don't call it ROH. They always
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00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:27.679
kind of went with the Ring of
Honor. But you got AWWWWCWECW, TNA,
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00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:30.760
NWA. It's always been for the
most part, the successful companies have
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00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:35.000
always been three letter monikers. I
mean they're really outside that. There's some
505
00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:40.159
great regional territories from the you know, was it a AWA, you know,
506
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:44.199
but you know, the Mid South, the World Class Championship Wrestling,
507
00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:46.760
those ones that are kind of more
regionalized. But the big ones we're just
508
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:50.679
kind of I mean, even your
independent shows, like you know, most
509
00:35:50.679 --> 00:35:54.079
of them are still using GCW,
Like you know, CZW, they still
510
00:35:54.159 --> 00:36:00.360
use that three letter moniker because it's
just recognizable the wrestling things. Do you
511
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:02.679
think TNA could be and for a
big twenty twenty four I mean you are
512
00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:07.559
you regularly watching their programming? Obviously
you checked out the match between Osprey and
513
00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:10.119
Bailey. I mean, yeah,
not regularly. I mean I still have
514
00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:14.639
you know, Trey Miguel Zach Wentzer
friends of mine. I still check out
515
00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:19.719
their stuff, Chris Bay and uh
uh Aast Austin, Like I know those
516
00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:21.960
guys, So I still check out
their stuff. Everybody does. I'm a
517
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:27.079
huge Josh Alexander fan as well,
Like I still check out their stuff their
518
00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:30.679
Their biggest issue is something that we've
been saying for a long time. They
519
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:36.480
don't have that. They've never been
able to manufacture that breakout star that people
520
00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:37.079
go, hey, man, do
you check out what so and so is
521
00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:40.440
doing or what they're saying or how
they're you know, they just have never
522
00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:45.519
had that guy to really make them
stand out. I mean if it wasn't
523
00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:49.599
for the you know, for a
guy like Hulk Cogan WWFFA would have never
524
00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:53.440
launched the you need that breakout guy, whether you know Hogan Flair, you
525
00:36:53.480 --> 00:36:59.880
know, even in aw A with
Nick Backwinkles and verne Ganiaz and Kurt Hennings,
526
00:36:59.880 --> 00:37:01.519
like, you always had that guy
that could break out and stand out
527
00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:06.880
in it from a crowd. Just
they've never had that guy. And whenever
528
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:08.920
that guy got close, somebody would
steal him. I mean, you look
529
00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:13.679
at just even recently, the hottest
guy in wrestling right now is La Night
530
00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:17.360
and he was a world champion in
Impact Wrestling. Is he liked Drake?
531
00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:23.280
You look at your NWA champions EC
three Impact guy like these are kind of
532
00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:29.039
people that you could have built the
company around and got noticed, but because
533
00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:34.280
of lack of resources, they lose
out to other companies. There's a lot
534
00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:37.360
of rumors right now that seempunk.
I guess there's reports out there that he
535
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:42.639
was backstage willing to talk to people
about for LORI taping Weekend. A Steel
536
00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:46.119
is reportedly working as a producer.
There now any smoke, any fire,
537
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:51.679
any belief that Sampunk could end up
in TNA and help them have a big
538
00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:59.239
year in twenty twenty four. Uh, I don't believe it. I think
539
00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:00.800
it's leveraging. Yeah, like,
hey, you know, if you guys
540
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:04.239
don't want me in WB, I
can always go to Impact. And you
541
00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:06.559
know, all of a sudden m
plus, there'd be a big finger to
542
00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:08.519
Tony Kahan because you remember, like
how you know how much you and I
543
00:38:08.639 --> 00:38:15.360
love the aw invasion angle of TNA
or Impact, So it could be a
544
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:19.440
middle finger if you went that route. But you're like we're talking about Coco.
545
00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:22.000
I don't see why if you're a
company, you don't just sign the
546
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:27.239
guy to a one year contract and
just put in a crapload of stipulations to
547
00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:30.000
you know, like you know,
like like I have an in you know,
548
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:32.360
football contracts like a code of conduct. If you break these rules,
549
00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:37.039
we can release you. There's no
recourse to recoup your money. I don't
550
00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:38.920
why would you not take that risk
if you feel like you have a good
551
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:44.000
infrastructure. So I mean, if
they don't want to sign him, then
552
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:45.320
if I'm Impact, I make him
like a bit, I make him a
553
00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:47.960
really good one year offer. I
pull my resources and see if we can
554
00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:51.440
pull it off. I mean,
the guy's a draw. I mean,
555
00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:55.159
hell, he's such a draw that
aj Lee is helping women? Was it?
556
00:38:55.280 --> 00:39:00.840
The Women of Wrestling show draw better
ratings than Impact? She was,
557
00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:05.119
she was helping them. She's no
longer there, but you know she was
558
00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:07.480
a name. It is you know, by associate with the mpunk. I
559
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:09.920
mean, I don't know if if
you asked the average person on the street
560
00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:12.559
that, like, hey, do
you know who A J Lee is?
561
00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:14.800
The age person gonna say no.
But the other person might have heard of
562
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:17.880
seem Punk and the Guy. The
guy can still draw numbers, and we
563
00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:22.719
saw that in a the guy can
draw numbers better than anybody else in wrestling
564
00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:25.280
that's not named Roman Reigns. You
know, for the most part, I
565
00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:29.920
think I think those are the top
two names that are active in pro wrestling
566
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:36.679
among casual fans, at least.
If somebody downloaded this podcast today and they
567
00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:40.239
had been in a coma for ten
years and the last time they remember anything
568
00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:45.360
in wrestling was in twenty thirteen,
and they were a regular listener of srt
569
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:50.079
and they thankfully came out of that
acoma and they downloaded this episode for the
570
00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:53.079
very first time they've listened to SRTU, and in ten years from being in
571
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a coma, they would think nothing
had changed. As we opened up with
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00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:04.000
Sting, talked about John c and
wrapped up with TNA Wrestling, what's old
573
00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:08.320
is new, What's new is old. It's time is a flat circle,
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as they say, And here we
are in twenty twenty three talking about Sting,
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John Cena, and TNA Wrestling as
regular major news items in professional wrestling.
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So sr TU, you never change, You never change, srt You
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talking about all those years later.
So but then again, I would be
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seventy five in doing this show.
Yeah, seventy five years old doing the
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podcast with Jeff talking about Roman Rains
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like that. Yep. Yeah,
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and we will be preview and predicting
we Crown Jewel as we are heading into
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another premium live event pay per view
bus saw that will be going on here
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with Crown Jewel with full gear.
And then before I note Survivor Series,
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and then before I note, we
will be wrapping up the year, so
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we're just a couple of weeks away
from our annual Thanksgiving show. Well,
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then we announced the holiday programming schedule, which is wild to say out loud
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for those that are celebrating Halloween,
taking their young ones out there, enjoy
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the Halloween holiday, enjoy your weekend. Spread the word about SRTU and until
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next week for doc Tray Franklin.
I'm Jeff Pack. This is the still
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WRO with a show
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It's still welcome. Everybody welcome.
So this week's edition is no Real,
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no Show. Epis number seven hundred
and fifteen for October twenty six, twenty
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twenty three. Welcomes. In this
week's edition of s R, she you,
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I am one after the show,
I am Jeff pack joined every single
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week, likes one one doctor Trey
Franklin, Doctor Trey. If you were
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retiring, who would be your last
opponent? My friend? Ooh, who
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would have my last opponent be?
Woopy Goldberg? I thought you were gonna
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go with Tom Arnold. No,
I always liked Tom Arnold, but Whoopy's
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up there? I mean, I
like, I like her, but then
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I could say, hey I beat
Goldberg. Hmmm, streak ended. Yeah.
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So I don't do you have any
people, like, any celebrities that
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you just absolutely dislike. That's a
tough one, Jackson Mahomes that you use
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in terms celebrity very very loosely,
dude. Anybody with like a phone and
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a YouTube channel nowadays is being considered
celebrities like I don't even know who half
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of these these people are. So
funny, funny side story, So I
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uh with with my job. I've
been constantly hiring people and doing interviews and
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things like that. And I'm actually
having an interview tomorrow with a guy for
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a part time job with this,
and I asked him, Hey, so,
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uh, you know, are you
currently working anywhere? What's your availability?
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Like He's like, oh, no, I'm pretty wide open. I
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do TikTok. I did not know
that was actually I mean, I get
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that some people make money off of
it, but I did not know that
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you guys, you put that on
your resume to impress an employer. Yeah.
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I guess if the employer was that
like YouTube or X or Facebook,
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maybe they would be impressed. I
don't know if content creator for your line
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of work would be something I'd be
like, damn, you are highly qualified,
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my friend. I mean, I
don't even put this on my resume.
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We've been doing this for you know, twelve years. Yeah. Oh,
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by the way, I would say, if I'm going off really high
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end celebrities, I would say probably
maybe it's weird. I used to love
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Jimmy Kimmel and now I can't stand
him, So kim would be on my
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list. See that's surprising because I
think Jimmy Kimmel's a very likable guy.
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He's a very likable guy. But
I think it's because every time I watch
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him, like the jokes are always
political, and I'm like, all right,
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can we joke about anybody else,
like I don't know or anything else
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to anything else. So but outside
of that, I don't really know.
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There's anybody else that I just really
can't stand. So yeah, I mean
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any Yeah, but you're rather anybody
in the YouTube TikTok twitch where like that's
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their main source of income. Four
years ago, logan Paul would be towards
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the top of my list, and
now not so much. He does other
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stuff and he takes risks about getting
punched in the face repeatedly, so I
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gotta give him credit for that.
Yeah, total hat tip, Tam.
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I mean, he's a freak athlete. I think he is certainly one over
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wrestling fans based on his performance and
care of being a in rank performer in
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Worldwisy Entertainment as we've seen as of
late. We'll be getting ready for him
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and his next match as we will
preview and predict w Crown Jewel on next
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week's edition of SRTU kicked off the
show asking who would be Doctor Trey's last
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opponent if he were to be retiring. It was announced on last week's AW
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Dynamite that Sting will be retiring at
AW Revolution twenty twenty four. It'll be
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three years since his initial debut for
All Lee Wrestling. He debuted in twenty
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twenty December twenty twenty at Winters Coming, then had his first entering match at
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AW Revolution in twenty twenty four,
actually be in twenty twenty one, so
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he's retiring three years later. The
run in AW has been really good,
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a good way to end his career
in my opinion, coming off of the
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initial retirement from his twenty fifteen WWE
Hall of Fame speech or twenty sixteen,
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but it was big news. We
are recording this during AW Dynamite from last
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night, depending on when you're listening
to this, if you're listening to it
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on Thursday. So we have no
idea what the gift that Tony Kahan has.
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First thing is, if I had
a guess, it's it's a huge
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plush toy of a penguin, because
Sting loves penguins. But you know,
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obviously the big discussion now Doctor Trey
and AW has about four months to really
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think about this three and a half
four months. Who should be Sting's last
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opponent as we approach AW Revolution February
twenty twenty four. Who gets the nod
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to help end the career of the
man called Sting. By the way,
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does Tony Kahn have a life size
Sting slam like slam Buddy or whatever they're
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called. I would assume so,
Yeah, Okay, I mean I just
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saw them on clearance their day at
Walmart. I almost bought Samy Franklin one.
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But for me, I mean you've
got to look on like, hey,
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can we build on the Sting legacy? Can we help somebody get over
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even more? And right now I
go at Darby. I mean it's the
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mentor mentee, teachers student type story. AW doesn't always do the traditional bad
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guy good guy storylines. I just
don't really know if there's anybody else in
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the company that could really benefit from
beating Sting in his farewell match. Do
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they have to beat Sting? No? But I think if getting that NOD
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in that match could be just as
equal to getting the win. Yeah.
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But if I'm not mistaken, I
think Sting's undefeated since he came to AW.
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I don't think they've lost any of
these tag matches. So I mean,
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if you're gonna I would say,
if you're going to give the nod
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to somebody, I would give it
to Derby. But once again, Darby
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was also seeing Punk's first opponent in
aw if I'm not mistaken, So I
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mean, it is a little bit
of a nod. But do you do
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an MJF. Do you give you
know, you give Stick a chance to
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win a championship in his last match
before he goes off into the sunset.
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You know, me personally, I
would just do Derby just because the fact
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that Darby's gonna be kind of continuing
the Sting legacy and it's, you know,
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kind of a passing of the torch, if you will. As Sting
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rides off into the sunset at age
sixty five, holy cow, he looks
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great. He looks right for his
age. Darby Allen is obviously the odds
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on favorite right now. To receive
that nod, it would almost be criminal
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at this point unless they do the
match in the next three and a half
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four months that after all this time
of pairing Darby instinct together that he does
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not get that nod for the torch
passing moment. Of taking Nonstin in his
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final match. I know some other
names that are being thrown out there.
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I saw someone trying to make a
case for Rick Flair Lord love him,
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but Nope, don't want to see
that. I love you and h but
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don't want to see that again.
I think from a dream standpoint, Adam
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Copeland Edge would be pretty cool.
I can't really think of many more.
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Omega, maybe Jericho. I can't. It's a very small list. To
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me. It's like Darby Allen,
then underneath Darby Allen is the one that
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makes sense. It's like top of
the list and then everything else underneath.
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It would be like the dream match
of Adam Copeland, Kenny Omega, what
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have you to be like taking on
Sting in that final match? Stan Jericho
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cross paths once so far at a
wan A tag match, right or he
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did? Yeah? Yeah, So
I mean that's up there. I mean
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just because yeah, I just don't
know if like you also got ever like
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some of these guys, you also
have to kind of go, hey,
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who can work a match to still
help Sting look good? I mean they've
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been very careful about who they've had
Sting in the ring with, you know,
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and the and the guys that weren't
great workers. They did kind of
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like the cinematic matches to kind of
edit a little bit. So my only
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word about Darby's Darby goes so fast
in the ring, like will that make
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a deep because he wants stings match
to be good, a good quality match
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you don't want to be you know, you don't look and go God that
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that last match the sting was horrible. But I mean he's got, you
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know, forty year career, but
to your god, the last matches back.
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So he wanted to be somebody that's
a good worker, can change the
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I mean, Orge Cassie would be
good just because we've seen him work so
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many different guys in different styles,
and he can change his style to fit
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his opponent as well. You know, we've seen Orge Cassy have good matches
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with the younger guys, the older
guys ever, you know, I mean
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he's wrestled with everybody from Jericho at
Moxley all the way down to like the
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govar Is and the Garcias. So
you want somebody that can kind of cross
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those lines. I mean, Edge
an sting would be a great Sorry,
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Adam Copeland, a sting would be
a great sendoff match, but it doesn't.
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It does more for a younger guy's
career than it does for somebody like
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Adam Copeland. M. Yeah,
now I'm with you. To me,
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I think it's like a ninety percent
chance right now that it's Darby. I
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mean, I just can't see it
being anybody else. It would it makes
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so much sense, it makes too
much sense that if AW didn't do it,
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I think it would be criminal.
Again, like the only way they
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get away with is if they've run
some sort of angle that Darby says,
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you know, before you retire,
I want to face shoot one on one,
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like I need to know if I
can go toe to toe with Sting
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rather than being the final match,
it would be like can I, you
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know, hang with you in the
ring one on one. So it's I
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don't know, it's a bit sad, but it's also something that you expect.
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You expect that the clock was winding
down on Sting at any point during
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his run in AW, and it's
it's been a very I mean, it's
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not his run in Impact Wrestling TNA
towards the end. The run in w
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WI obviously did not get enough ground. He only had what two three matches
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in w W you for getting hurt
and having to retire. This has been
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protected by tag team matches, and
it seems like they always have to do
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one major spot where he's jumping off
of something very high up in the air.
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But overall, as a character,
the way he's been used, the
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way he has been lies on the
mic in segments and storylines in matches has
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been pretty perfect. And it's very
easy to uh to bust the chops of
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aw creative, especially as of late, but I think they've done a really
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good job of protecting his character and
ending it the right way. So I'm
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happy from going out on his terms
the way that it should have been six
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seven years ago with w WIE and
unfortunately did not work out. And again
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it just seems like it's a slam
dunk that's gonna be Darby Allen Doctor Trey.
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Yeah. I mean, I'm still
trying to think of alterna. I
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mean there's nobody he has, you
know, I mean Jeff Jarrett he has
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history with from TNA and WCW.
But I mean could Jarrett be the Stings
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last match and Rick Flair's last match, I mean, that's that'd be pretty
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awesome, Mike. I was thinking
about this as you were talking, though,
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is like, with Sting retiring,
does he stay a Philly with AW
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or does he go, Hey,
you know that Legends deal that those guys
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have other pretty sweet as well.
I can still makes some money going for
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I just don't think Stings they,
you know, make some more money kind
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of guy. No, I don't
think he is either, And I think
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that run in w WE kind of
was a little bit of a bitter taste
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in his mouth. Yeah. My
understanding is that he did have a good
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relationship with them still they he did
let his Legends contract run out, and
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that's why he was going back to
AW. I think he's going to be
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loyal AW ultimately, though, Doctor
Truck. I mean, he doesn't owe
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w wee anything and he doesn't owe
the fans anything because he did he did
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the w W thing for a very
very short period of time. He had
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a match at WRESTLEMANI which we were
all dying to see. He got rightfully
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placed in the Hall of Fame and
then got hurt, unfortunately, and they
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didn't really do much with him after
that, and he was still quasi under
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contract. He was just doing stuff
for like network specials or documentaries, which
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is kind of lame when you have
freaking Sting available at your fings as AW
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really really utilize extremely well. So
I think he'll remain loyal to AW,
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and I think ultimately we just need
to obviously take these next couple of months
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and appreciate everything that's going on with
Sting. If you weren't appreciating this run
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all writing AW, shame on you. And now these next couple months totally
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open arms. Be appreciative of what's
going on. And if you have the
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opportunity to go see Sting live one
last time, whether it be Dynamite Collision
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tapings, live events, or if
he is wrestling somehow over the next four
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months prior to AW Revolution, I
think that's something that most fans, if
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they have the opportunity to go see, should go out there and absolutely do
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it. So Sting wrapping up his
career as announced this last Wednesday night at
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AW Revolution in February March time,
so someone we'll keep an eye on who
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will be that last opponent for Sting. Speaking of appreciation, Doctor Trey,
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I was watching SmackDown this past week. John Seen is in the ring and
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I just thought to myself, man, we have got to be appreciating this
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time. Like Sena has been on
WE television for probably maybe a month longer
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than I expected. When he initially
returned, I thought that the strike was
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going to end and then he would
be back doing the Hollywood thing and we
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would see him come and go maybe
around wrestlming in a summer stam season again
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or here and there, keep a
streak alive of having a match every year
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in WE. And I mean,
he's been working as a regular performer lately
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and it's been fun to see.
It's there's been times where he's been a
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little bit too cartoony. But I
just thought to myself this past Friday,
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as I was watching this back down, I'm like, man, we really
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need to appreciate what the hell's going
on with John Cena right now. So,
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I mean, I simply ask you, doctor Dray, how much do
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you appreciate this time of John Cena
being back? And how much should wrestling
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fans be appreciating this time of John
Cena being back? You know, the
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funny thing to me is when you
look over all the legends that we've had
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come through w over the years,
and think about when their careers are winding
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down, where they really helping get
the next wave of guys over. And
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you can look at Scene seem's been
good doing this going back to when he
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had the US title of the US
Open US Open Challenge that he understands the
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business. He understands that it's always
a continuance. There is no you know,
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there's no re you know, no
rebuild, you know, like like
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you know, like your packers are
going with with changing quarterbacks like that.
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It's kind of you know, it
just continues on and you want to make
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sure the next guy is in place
to take your spot. And that's the
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proper way to do it. And
Scene is in a great job of that.
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We just saw it, you know, with him helping get l a
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Night Over even more. And now
we're seeing him, you know, working
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with Solo Socoa. Like the fact
that he's still able to go out there.
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We saw at Wrestle Media getting like
letting Austin Theory beat him a Wrestle
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Media like you know, Santa has
creative control. He could have at any
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point said no, no, no, I'm not letting get beat me and
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beat me pretty clean. He did
it because of the right thing to do.
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So the guy's just a tremendous like
he's a tremendous asset to the world
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of professional wrestling. By the way, for you and I longtime wrestling fans,
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how cool is it to see I
don't if he's on Facebook, but
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the the uh Sena Umaga to Sina
Solos to CoA stuff. No, it
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was, it was just kind of
it was just somebody was like they did
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kind of a slow motion like fade
in and fade out of Sina being face
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to face with Umaga. Then you
see Omaga fade out and then Solo's face
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kind of fades into him like man
like just you know, like Solo's character
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was based a lot on what Umaga
does, Like that's what Triple Ah's idea
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for the Solo character was. And
now you see a guy like John Cena,
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who had battles with Umaga, squaring
off against you know, his nephew
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Solo, and it's it's just those
comparisons are really really cool. So just
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the fact that he's out there working
with everybody, trying to help the company
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as best as he can, still
doing all the main wish stuff, you
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know, still you know popping up
on movies that he did, like,
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you know, a year ago,
Like there's a trailer for something I saw
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today he popped out, And I'm
like, guys on the hardest workers in
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all of entertainment, and so you
gotta give him a ton of credit,
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Like he could have just taken this
time off and set at home and Scrooge
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McDuck didn't count his money, and
no, he's like, I'm gonna go
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back to wrestling. It's my first
love. I'm we go back and I'm
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gonna help some guys out and then
when the actor strikes over, I'll get
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back to acting like the guy's just
a hard worker and a credit to professional
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wrestling, whether you like the scene
of character or not, Like he's just
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a good dude when it comes to
the professional wrestling business. So he's been
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back for like eight weeks now,
maybe at best six seven eight weeks,
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and I think he's helped push along
La Night, Jimmy Usso and Solasakoa and
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maybe I'm missing anybody else here,
but I feel like that has been his
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focus since returning, and you can
tell that him just being involved with those
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guys has helped elevate the game.
So it's really cool to see him giving
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back and helping elevate some of these
stars that they are trying to break out
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and push up the main event ladder
like he has because he does not need
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to do that. Let me,
like we seen has made his money.
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He does not need to be back
in professional wrestling right now. We've seen
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that with plenty of people that have
gone to Hollywood, and you know,
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he's not as successful as maybe Dwayne
Johnson right now, but he's been successful
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and he he doesn't need to come
back. And if you look at the
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entire scope of the year, including
Austin theory, same thing. He's really
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helping elevate people. And it's cool
to see and I'm just appreciative it because
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I don't think we ever get this
weekly, multiple months stretch of John Cena
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on WE Television ever again. Yeah, I mean, unless there's another Reard
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random strike. So Seena as a
movie actor, would you say he's B
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list, Like, I don't mean
I'm a but he's not an A list.
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He's not a IT B. Yeah, maybe I'm not a big movie
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guy. I know he was involved
in the Barbie movie, which obviously was
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big over the summer. But I
think that was at like a small role
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he actually asked to be in that
supposedly. Yeah, I think there was
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like a weird thing like he just
randomly was on set or so there's a
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weird story about that. I think
you're right, But uh yeah, I
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guess B list. But his name
is so recognizable. Like if I tell
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family members or friends of mine,
like, name one professional wrestler from like
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the last twenty years, they may
go Rock or stone Hold, but seen
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us on that list. If I
tell anybody like do you know who Johnson
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is? They they immediately know.
And that's like most Americans in this country.
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Yeah, I mean you think about
like he's been the he's been the
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last two Fast in the Furious movies. He's in a Transformer movie. He's
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did that was it? Uh?
Oh? Was it Friends Vacation or like
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like like super Core. But the
Peacemakers Show is great. So but I
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I you know, he's not you
know, getting twenty five million dollars a
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picture like The Rock or you know
some of those A list guys. But
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yeah, I would definitely think he's
probably like a B list actor. Like
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if we can't get The Rock,
you called John Cena. What do you
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think of that statistic that they're obviously
running with from SmackDown this past week that
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he has not won a singles match
in five years? That's mind blowing,
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right, I yeah, because I
did not realize that it had been that
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long. But how long was he? He had almost a year where he
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didn't compete? You lost that like
you won that on or we lost it
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by like one day on your bold
prediction one year, like he wrestled on
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New Year's Eve. I think it
was that you said, He's yeah,
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yeah, yeah, yeah, that
was uh, I think it was last
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year, didn't That was the tag
match with Owens and him taking on?
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Was it Sammy and Roman? Yeah? Yeah, So yeah, that is
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crazy that he hasn't won a singles
match in five years or so. Obviously,
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it's it's it's believable because he's been
away for most of that time.
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But I mean, there was even
that stat that we talked about during WrestleMania
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season that his match with Austin Theory
was like his first real singles match in
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like seven or eight WrestleManias, because
that match with Bray Wyatt was more of
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a cinematic match and then did the
Undertake was the Undertaking? The Undertaker match
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was like unannounced because that's the one
I was at. It was thirty four.
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Yeah, yeah, so that was
right around the end of his last
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main singles run. So it is
a crazy statistic, uh so, But
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I mean, hell, you gotta
figure get one here. If he's gonna
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be around for I mean, the
Writer's strike, we don't know as hand.
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He's got to get one. Well. I mean, that's the thing
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is, they're billing him as the
greatest of all time right now, and
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I think in the history of this
podcast, especially in the early you know,
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first half of SRTU, I mean
we were still in John Cena being
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shoved down our throats in professional and
the fact that he hasn't been involved in
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like a world title match in WrestleMania
in a really long time. Christ I
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think that was twenty nine Wrestlemating twenty
nine was like his last championship match at
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WrestleMania, which is mind blowing.
And granted, yeah, we get it.
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He hasn't really been around all that
much in the last five years,
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but his last singles win was in
twenty eighteen. I mean, I don't
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think I would ever say those words
when we first started doing this podcast many
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moons ago. Yeah, but you
and I when we started this spot where
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when you and Eric and then me
like started the podcast, we were also
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in like, I don't think we
hate John Cena mode, but we were
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tired of John Cena. And then
when he went away for a limit and
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came back and that US title run
was actually kind of like got us back
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on the John Cena bandwagon. It
was like an after wrestlming in thirty one
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when he started feuding with Russev.
Yeah, run on SmackDown Live in twenty
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sixteen with A. J. Salles
was really good. Yeah. I mean
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I still every down then say way, we're gonna do they meet up John
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Ceno. So I still use that
line from you know, from Carl Anderston
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and Luke Gallows. Yeah. Like
the last world title match I remember was
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what him and Roman at SummerSlam two
years ago. Yeah, so that's probably
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the last. Well, No,
he had world title matches against AJ and
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obviously had a run as a champion
as well. Yeah. The WrestleMania stats
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like blows my mind because it was
what was like a stretch of like nine
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out of nine WrestleManias he was involved
in a world title match. I mean,
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robots streak is pretty close to that
too, because I mean, really
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yeah, Roman's been the world topics
for since thirty, since pretty much since
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thirty for the most part. Also
the Undertaker match. Well they've learned a
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lot from from Sina though, because
Roman is a heel now and obviously Roman
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is out of the championship for you
know, over three plus years, and
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I mean this could be a topic
for another day, but I'm not.
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I'm not tired of his title reign
like I was turning John Cena title rain.
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Yeah, well it's the Superman versus
the Joker type cinder, like,
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who do I do you like?
You know, bad people that have redeeming
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qualities or good guys that don't show
weakness. It's kind of hard, you
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know, or even Superman and Batman's
to that degree. But you know,
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it goes back to one of the
things that we are not allowed to talk
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about in this show, which was
why didn't they turn John Cena hill at
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some point to extend his run like
you've seen with Roman or even with Hogan
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days could have got a lot of
mileage out of that too, so but
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yeah, it's just I mean I'm
intrigued to see how how gracious he is
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through this and helping guys get over
because once again, if you're the goat,
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you got to I mean we talked, We just talking about Sting.
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Sting hasn't lost in aw in three
years, although you know limited run,
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John Cena really hasn't won a singles
match in five years, so kind of
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got get a couple. You know, reminds me these younger kids that you
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know, scene it can still go
and are you show if they have to?
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Yeah, yeah no, And it's
crazy going back on seeing the hill
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turn stuff. I mean he confirmed
that heading in WrestleMania twenty nine. They
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nearly executed that, Like a theme
music was made and like merchandise was made
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to prepare a heel turn for John
Cena and they never executed it. So
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I think ultimately we just appreciate what's
going with John Cena and is if he's
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on SmackDown or Raw this week,
you just appreciate if he's on Crown Jewel,
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Fast Laying Survivor series, what have
you just NXT television, just appreciate
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what's going on because in a moment's
notice scene. It could be gone again
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and be gone for a period of
time where he just pops up heading into
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WrestleMania or Summer Slam season. So
really cool to have John Cena back,
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and it's been it's been a lot
of fun having him back on television regularly
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in world wrestling entertainment. One name
that I did not think would ever end
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up one television that could end up
being WWE bound in twenty twenty four is
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UK based wrestler Will Osprey. On
the latest episode of The Rustling Observer Radio
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from Dave Meltzer, he spoke about
the current IWGP United States Faway and Champions
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saying the following quote, I know
some stuff. I mean, I know
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WWE's absolutely after him, and he's
absolutely going to listen to WA I think
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at the end of the day,
there's a lot of different things that could
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happen, but I think he's going
now for the best offer possible. He's
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got a family, he wants his
son to go to a good college.
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He wants to make money now,
and not that he hasn't made money.
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He's made money with New Japan and
on his indie shows, but obviously AWW
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are a step above money wise.
Earlier this past month, Meltzer suggested that
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Ospbrey would not sign a full time
deal with WE due to his reluctance to
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move away from the United Kingdom.
However, it now appears that Osprey would
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be willing to discuss a possible permanent
gig with the Stanford, Connecticut based promotion
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doctor Trey. Kind of surprising.
Do you think Will Osprey could be w
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bound? Yeah? I really do. I mean, he's got his in
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the water with you know, a
w He was just that balanced for glory,
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for impact, which I don't know
if you saw that match with him
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and Mike Bailey, but that was
a hell of a match. But I
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mean for a guy that was reluctant
to leave the UK, all you gotta
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do is look over at Gunther and
and see how well W's taking care of
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him. And that was a guy
that did not want to leave the United
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Kingdom. He wants to it is
in his area. And you know,
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hey, if we if we make
you a great deal and we promote the
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hell you we feature on our shows, you can make a lot more money.
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And if I mean seriously, there's
not a better place to work if
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you want to get a kid in
college, than WWE because the places have
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a lot of connections. I mean, hell Seae mcmhon's sons on a football
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script called scholarship to Indiana University right
now. I mean there's a lot of
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doors that can be opened by being
affiliated with the McMahons in a lot of
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ways when it comes to that stuff. So I mean, I let your
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kids is a genius and wants to
go to Oxford University. I mean,
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there's no reason to stay in the
UK if you come over here and make
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you know, generational money, and
a talent like Will Osprey could make generational
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money in WWE because the guys,
you know, we talked. I talked
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about this, I think about four
or five years. A guy I say,
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if he had to like thirty pounds
muscle, the guy'd be a main
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event star. And now you see
where he's at now and you're like,
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yeah, this guy could be a
main event guy. Great talker, great
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worker, has a good look,
cauldn't do everything he wants he done in
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a ring. That's the kind of
guys that maybe he wants to jump on
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and maximize the talent stuff. And
I'm sure they'll make an offer that he's
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going to have a hard time saying
notes it. So Osprey is contracted to
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New Japan par Wrestler portally until February
twenty twenty four, and then he is
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the latest name that will add himself
into a list of some powerful potential free
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agents for twenty twenty four. Rumored
reported names are MJF, the current AW
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World champion, obviously, Will Osprey, Seamus Becky Lynch, Drew McIntyre to
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name a few, could all be
coming up with their contracts all next year.
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I just named five names, Doctor
Trey. If you are running arrest
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in promotion tomorrow and these names are
presented to you as somebody that you could
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sign, is the first big name
some of those free agents who would be
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number one on your list right now? MJF because still wow, he can
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talk people and at least the best
talker of the group. And for as
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much as people hate the promos and
they hate Gaga and they hate the bad
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hat Lady Gaga, well I mean
sometimes, I mean she was a meat
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dress in your vegetarian you're gonna hate
her so but you know, it comes
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down to it, like the best
storyline we've seen the last three years of
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the Bloodline. A lot of that
stuff was the story and the promos,
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you know. I mean some of
the matches were great, but a lot
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of times I can't remember the matches. I just remember the story leading into
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it. So MJFF and we've seen
you know, the guy can wrestle.
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So if you can talk and you
can wrestle and put the call, you
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know, could put on some you
know, get some butts in the seats,
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you know they're gonna sign you up. So and plus he's the youngest
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of the group, so I could
have him for a lot longer in his
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prime than I could have Drew a
Shamus of Becky or will Ospbury. Well,
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Osprey's like thirty four now thirty five, so he's not the youngest guy
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the group. Maybe Drew and Seamus
are right around forty. And Becky's probably
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not gonna go anywhere because of you
know, her relationship with her husband.
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So I'd still bank on MGF because
that you know, when he comes up
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fhrazy, he's only gonna be like
twenty five, twenty six years old.
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You could him for a decade and
he's still being a sprime I'm a big
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Will Osprey fan. I think he
may be the best in the world right
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now, and I thought that he
was aw bound no matter what next year
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hearing, especially the reports earlier this
month that Osprey did not want to go
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to w W full time. I
love the comparison that you made there with
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gun through Doctor Tree, because that
was the big rumor as well, that
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Gunthor did not want to go to
w W WII because he did not want
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to leave Germany, he didn't want
to leave Europe, was fine working in
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nxc UK and then look at his
career. Now, maybe that's a blueprint
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for somebody like Will Osprey, but
it's very intriguing that it seemed like again
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a four gun conclusion that Osprey would
be aw bound one maybe Impact Wrestling too,
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and then a far stretch would be
WA. I think it speaks volumes
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at how W is doing right now
and their reach as of late creatively and
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with their events. They just announced
earlier today Bash in Berlin for August of
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next year, premium live event in
Germany. He's just gonna be a premium
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live event in France. It appears
obviously that Osprey is entertaining WA and that
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is appealing to him, and I
can't blame him, because again, the
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roller coaster ride of AW is in
a unappealing level right now. As a
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wrestling fan, I still watch it. They still have their bright spots,
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but it just seems like it's in
a lull while w is putting out really
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good programming each and every week.
So should w WE get will Ospra,
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I mean that to me would be
the biggest, shocking, surprising signing that
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they've had since AJ Styles signed in
twenty sixteen. Yeah. Uh, And
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not to mention, don't forget there's
still NXT Europe is still supposed to be
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either coming back at the end of
twenty twenty four or early twenty twenty five.
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So if you could see the process
and go, hey, we can
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00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:29.000
build this whole thing around will Osprey
so that way he doesn't have to leave
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00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:31.920
Europe starting out until he gets used
to us kind of like you mentioned,
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like they do with Gunther, Why
wouldn't you take that risk as well?
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Like you have a bona fide international
star you could build a company around,
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and you could do that as well. So there's that, you know,
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little apple seed as well. Speaking
of Impact Wrestling, will Osper performed there
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this past weekend a Bound for Glory
twenty twenty three taking on Speedball Mike Bailey.
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I have not seen the match back
at all yet, is Doctor Trey
468
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:02.400
pointing out? A lot of people
are raving on it at the end of
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Bound for Glory, which, Doctor
Trey, You're always that Impact wrestling guy.
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I mean Bound for Glory is like
their Wrestlmania, right, Yeah,
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yeah, pretty much. So.
It was announced at the end of the
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pay per view that starting on January
thirteenth, twenty twenty four, would be
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Hard to Kill pay per view,
Impact Wrestling will be going back to its
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original total NonStop action TNA name.
I love this move, Doctor Trey,
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But what say you? You are
a bigger TNA Impact Wrestling fan than I
476
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am. I've not watched them in
the last two three years. I was
477
00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:44.240
big on them pre and then Enduring
and a little bit post Pandemic, so
478
00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:46.480
like twenty nineteen through twenty twenty one, I was watching them pretty regularly and
479
00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:52.720
enjoyed their programming each and every week. But you've been a longstanding fan of
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00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:57.000
that product. What are your thoughts
here as Impact shifts back to be in
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00:33:57.079 --> 00:34:00.839
TNA Oh, I think it's a
great move. I never liked the name
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00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:04.880
Impact Wrestling, Like if you go
back to when we first got show,
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00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:07.119
I used to poke fun at TNA
for having all their pay per views named
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after Steven sigall movies Hard to Kill, mountfor Glory, Like they just all
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00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:15.960
saided like bad action movies. And
I even thought I thought Impact Wrestling just
486
00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:21.360
kind of sounded like a bad name
for a show, like Weird Condition as
487
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:27.280
wrestling fans to go with like three
letter names for wrestling companies. Uh So
488
00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:30.679
when TNA changed the Impact, I'm
like, that's gonna throw people off.
489
00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:35.119
Plus, at that point, you
already kind of built a brand. You
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00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:37.880
didn't have to rename the company.
I mean, I mean, ww did
491
00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:42.519
it. They changed a letter and
people lost their freaking minds for like two
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00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:45.760
years over it. So this is
a great move. It kind of harkens
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back to those those early years.
You get a little bit of the warm
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00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:52.880
fuzzies. Plus it's just a fun
thing to say. I mean, I
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00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:58.320
hear TNA, I think of Eric
Bischoff in three minute Warnings. So but
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00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:01.480
TNA is just a fun name,
is so I applaud the move. It
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00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:07.840
makes it easier for fans to recognize
and you know, like it kind of
498
00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:10.960
brings the company back full circle and
from an install just standpoint right, like
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00:35:12.039 --> 00:35:15.679
people are down with that. Yeah, I want to, Like I said,
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like you think of all the great
wrestling companies, like the Ring of
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00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:22.679
Honor is probably the exception because most
people don't call it ROH. They always
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00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:27.679
kind of went with the Ring of
Honor. But you got AWWWWCWECW, TNA,
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00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:30.760
NWA. It's always been for the
most part, the successful companies have
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00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:35.000
always been three letter monikers. I
mean they're really outside that. There's some
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00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:40.159
great regional territories from the you know, was it a AWA, you know,
506
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:44.199
but you know, the Mid South, the World Class Championship Wrestling,
507
00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:46.760
those ones that are kind of more
regionalized. But the big ones we're just
508
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:50.679
kind of I mean, even your
independent shows, like you know, most
509
00:35:50.679 --> 00:35:54.079
of them are still using GCW,
Like you know, CZW, they still
510
00:35:54.159 --> 00:36:00.360
use that three letter moniker because it's
just recognizable the wrestling things. Do you
511
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:02.679
think TNA could be and for a
big twenty twenty four I mean you are
512
00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:07.559
you regularly watching their programming? Obviously
you checked out the match between Osprey and
513
00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:10.119
Bailey. I mean, yeah,
not regularly. I mean I still have
514
00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:14.639
you know, Trey Miguel Zach Wentzer
friends of mine. I still check out
515
00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:19.719
their stuff, Chris Bay and uh
uh Aast Austin, Like I know those
516
00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:21.960
guys, So I still check out
their stuff. Everybody does. I'm a
517
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:27.079
huge Josh Alexander fan as well,
Like I still check out their stuff their
518
00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:30.679
Their biggest issue is something that we've
been saying for a long time. They
519
00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:36.480
don't have that. They've never been
able to manufacture that breakout star that people
520
00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:37.079
go, hey, man, do
you check out what so and so is
521
00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:40.440
doing or what they're saying or how
they're you know, they just have never
522
00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:45.519
had that guy to really make them
stand out. I mean if it wasn't
523
00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:49.599
for the you know, for a
guy like Hulk Cogan WWFFA would have never
524
00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:53.440
launched the you need that breakout guy, whether you know Hogan Flair, you
525
00:36:53.480 --> 00:36:59.880
know, even in aw A with
Nick Backwinkles and verne Ganiaz and Kurt Hennings,
526
00:36:59.880 --> 00:37:01.519
like, you always had that guy
that could break out and stand out
527
00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:06.880
in it from a crowd. Just
they've never had that guy. And whenever
528
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:08.920
that guy got close, somebody would
steal him. I mean, you look
529
00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:13.679
at just even recently, the hottest
guy in wrestling right now is La Night
530
00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:17.360
and he was a world champion in
Impact Wrestling. Is he liked Drake?
531
00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:23.280
You look at your NWA champions EC
three Impact guy like these are kind of
532
00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:29.039
people that you could have built the
company around and got noticed, but because
533
00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:34.280
of lack of resources, they lose
out to other companies. There's a lot
534
00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:37.360
of rumors right now that seempunk.
I guess there's reports out there that he
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00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:42.639
was backstage willing to talk to people
about for LORI taping Weekend. A Steel
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00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:46.119
is reportedly working as a producer.
There now any smoke, any fire,
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00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:51.679
any belief that Sampunk could end up
in TNA and help them have a big
538
00:37:51.800 --> 00:37:59.239
year in twenty twenty four. Uh, I don't believe it. I think
539
00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:00.800
it's leveraging. Yeah, like,
hey, you know, if you guys
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00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:04.239
don't want me in WB, I
can always go to Impact. And you
541
00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:06.559
know, all of a sudden m
plus, there'd be a big finger to
542
00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:08.519
Tony Kahan because you remember, like
how you know how much you and I
543
00:38:08.639 --> 00:38:15.360
love the aw invasion angle of TNA
or Impact, So it could be a
544
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:19.440
middle finger if you went that route. But you're like we're talking about Coco.
545
00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:22.000
I don't see why if you're a
company, you don't just sign the
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00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:27.239
guy to a one year contract and
just put in a crapload of stipulations to
547
00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:30.000
you know, like you know,
like like I have an in you know,
548
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:32.360
football contracts like a code of conduct. If you break these rules,
549
00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:37.039
we can release you. There's no
recourse to recoup your money. I don't
550
00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:38.920
why would you not take that risk
if you feel like you have a good
551
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:44.000
infrastructure. So I mean, if
they don't want to sign him, then
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00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:45.320
if I'm Impact, I make him
like a bit, I make him a
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00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:47.960
really good one year offer. I
pull my resources and see if we can
554
00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:51.440
pull it off. I mean,
the guy's a draw. I mean,
555
00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:55.159
hell, he's such a draw that
aj Lee is helping women? Was it?
556
00:38:55.280 --> 00:39:00.840
The Women of Wrestling show draw better
ratings than Impact? She was,
557
00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:05.119
she was helping them. She's no
longer there, but you know she was
558
00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:07.480
a name. It is you know, by associate with the mpunk. I
559
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:09.920
mean, I don't know if if
you asked the average person on the street
560
00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:12.559
that, like, hey, do
you know who A J Lee is?
561
00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:14.800
The age person gonna say no.
But the other person might have heard of
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00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:17.880
seem Punk and the Guy. The
guy can still draw numbers, and we
563
00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:22.719
saw that in a the guy can
draw numbers better than anybody else in wrestling
564
00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:25.280
that's not named Roman Reigns. You
know, for the most part, I
565
00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:29.920
think I think those are the top
two names that are active in pro wrestling
566
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:36.679
among casual fans, at least.
If somebody downloaded this podcast today and they
567
00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:40.239
had been in a coma for ten
years and the last time they remember anything
568
00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:45.360
in wrestling was in twenty thirteen,
and they were a regular listener of srt
569
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:50.079
and they thankfully came out of that
acoma and they downloaded this episode for the
570
00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:53.079
very first time they've listened to SRTU, and in ten years from being in
571
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a coma, they would think nothing
had changed. As we opened up with
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00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:04.000
Sting, talked about John c and
wrapped up with TNA Wrestling, what's old
573
00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:08.320
is new, What's new is old. It's time is a flat circle,
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00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:12.920
as they say, And here we
are in twenty twenty three talking about Sting,
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00:40:13.519 --> 00:40:20.320
John Cena, and TNA Wrestling as
regular major news items in professional wrestling.
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So sr TU, you never change, You never change, srt You
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seventy five in doing this show.
Yeah, seventy five years old doing the
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podcast with Jeff talking about Roman Rains
and John Cena still wrestling probably or something
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like that. Yep. Yeah,
time is nothing but a flat circle.
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So thank you for downloading this week's
edition of SRTU. We will be back
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next week on Thursday, November two, Wow, November already, folks,
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and we will be preview and predicting
we Crown Jewel as we are heading into
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another premium live event pay per view
bus saw that will be going on here
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with Crown Jewel with full gear.
And then before I note Survivor Series,
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and then before I note, we
will be wrapping up the year, so
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we're just a couple of weeks away
from our annual Thanksgiving show. Well,
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then we announced the holiday programming schedule, which is wild to say out loud
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for those that are celebrating Halloween,
taking their young ones out there, enjoy
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the Halloween holiday, enjoy your weekend. Spread the word about SRTU and until
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next week for doc Tray Franklin.
I'm Jeff Pack. This is the still
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WRO with a show