Nov. 7, 2024

Who won the "one night only Wednesday Night War?" | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #769 – 11/07/24

Who won the "one night only Wednesday Night War?" | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #769 – 11/07/24

On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:

- -- We recap & review "WWE Crown Jewel!"
- -- We discuss who won the "one night only Wednesday night war" battle!
- -- WWE launches a really cool development program that could be a game changer!-
-...

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On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:

  • -- We recap & review "WWE Crown Jewel!"
  • -- We discuss who won the "one night only Wednesday night war" battle!
  • -- WWE launches a really cool development program that could be a game changer!-
  • - An injury that has bummed out!
  • -- And we discuss Goldberg's retirement match announcement!

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It's welcome everybody.

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Welcome to this week's edition is Still Real Does Show

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Episode number seven and sixty nine for November.

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Seventh, two thousand thirty four. Welcome to your we Crown

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Jewels Greecap n Review Edition. Huff ash R Team the Year.

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I am one half the show. I Am under the

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Weather of Jackie Beckett. Joined every single week when I, oh,

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it's the early Doctor Trey Franklin, Doctor Trey, my voice

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is pushing through my friend.

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Yeah, I knows that. On the intro there, like it

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kind of sounded like your voice cracked, like you're hitting puberty.

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But at least I knew what was going on because

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I was, you know, for an untrained listener. They're like, wait,

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I thought he had a kid. How was he hitting puberty? Now?

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Yeah, yeah it happened, folks did. Sometimes it takes a

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long time, but here we are. Yeah, I'm I'm battling

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allergy season, my friend, Yeah.

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I so this is I usually get sick twice a year.

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I usually get sick basically when winter turns the spring

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and when summer turns the fall. But I didn't get

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it in September this year, Like I know, ma it

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I got it yesterday, so I was fever of one

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hundred and one point four in the bathroom the entire day.

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But today I feel fine. I feel refreshed. Maybe it's

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because I actually slept, but I know you, every time

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the season has changed, you have your allergy battles. So

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when I heard you call me this morning, I was like, Oh, yeah,

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that's that's that time of year for Jeff.

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Yeah, it's it's been a wild run.

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There may be times where I have to like step

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off here, I have a drink of water, but it

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it's it's been like last week, it was in the

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forties and fifties. The last couple of days, I feel

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like I'm in Alabama, doctor try it's been in the seventies.

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So it's doing an absolute number on me. The leaves

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are being blown around, so there's mold and pollen and

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all that other crap all over the place. I literally

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did not have a voice two days, the last two days.

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So the fact that I'm even at this point is

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pretty phenomenal. And if we were still in regular radio,

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the program directors would tell us to like go home,

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or at least tell me to go home and just

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call it a show. Because it's like very annoying to

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listen to. I'm hopeful that this is a little bit

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more like ASMR for some people.

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Well, still, I think you sound better than most of

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the radio guys I listened to, even when you're sick,

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as I've told you, for damn, you're fifteen years that

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when people that, like when friends of mine and family

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of mine have listened to the show, they always go, well, Trey,

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you sound great, but that other guy, he sounds like

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a professional radio guy. So I always say, like Jeff,

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even at fifty percent, still sounds better than half the

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people you hear on the radio.

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Anyway, I appreciate that at one time I was, I

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am no more. Now it's just simply a podcaster, which is.

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Basically taken over radio nowadays. So that's pretty cool to see.

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But nonetheless, let's get into it.

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Thank you everybody for downloading, Thank you for joining us

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on this week's tition of SR T You We are

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gutting it through here for all of you. Let's recap

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and review w WE Crown Jewel Doctor Trey took place

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this past Saturday for the Muhammad Aba Arena and Riod

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Saudi Arabia.

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The first match on the card here was.

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The Bloodline defeating Roman Rains, Jimmy Uso and jay Uso

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in a six man tag team match that is very

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weird to say out loud, like, the Bloodline defeats Roman Rains,

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Jimmy Uso and jay Uso. I had the Bloodline, Doctor

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Trey at Rains us and the Usos. Rain's taking the

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clean pin is a pretty big deal as it appears

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they are humbling Roman and storyline.

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The album changes.

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Ways and it's correlating well in the early going. This

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was a well booked match that made a lot of

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sense for the story moving forward. Sammy's ain't coming out

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to make the same get involved and inadvertently take out

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Roman Reigns when they were going for Solo was a

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really nice touch to get that storyline going into War Games.

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Awesome work all around, Doctor Trey. I really enjoyed this one.

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Your thoughts as Solo's Bloodline defeated Roman Reigns his blood Line, Yeah.

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I thought it was a really well done six man

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tag because you know, you and I have talked about

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for years, sometimes once you get six men in up

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in a match, or women for that matter, things can

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get a little out of swords, a little chaotic, one

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person forgets what they're doing, and the whole match is

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blown up. This was really well done, really well put

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together storyline wise, made sense. So a really solid match

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for a Crown jewel.

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Yeah, and what's really cool about this is that we've

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put this storyline during the microscope the last several weeks

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on the podcast. To me, doctor Trey and this will

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be interested in your thoughts. I think it's starting to

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make sense right now. I like where it's going. It's

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making sense by humbling Roman a little bit.

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Yeah. I until this match, I hadn't really thought about

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that angle. But it's one thing that we've talked on

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the show that if you're gonna be a babyface, you

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got to have obstacles and things you have to overcome

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for the fans to get you sympathy. Having Roman take

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the pin is humbling. Now, it's another obstacle for to overcome.

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At one point, we felt like they were kind of

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shotgunning the storyline a little bit because you're getting Jay

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to come back in and he's just like, you know,

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at first, it seemed like he was just, you know,

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everything was all well and taken care of and then

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now you see why he's doing it. This stuff with Sammy,

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it makes sense that they're they're starting the angle, and

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instead of just not explaining why these guys are doing

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what they're doing, you're actually having some layers of depth

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in the storytelling as to, yeah, I'm helping you, but look,

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I don't trust you, I don't buy into you. You

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saw that a little bit of Crown Jewel, a little

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bit the back and forth with Jay and Roman a

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little bit, so there's still that element of I don't

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trust who you are now because I saw who you

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were the last four years. So really good storytelling, a

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little bit of the humbling thing. I think they're they've

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got the direction going now, they're just adding the depth

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to make make the story make more sense.

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The addition of Sammy's ain, doctor Trey.

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Your thoughts on how that has gone through with Crown Jewel,

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the follow up they did on Raw. It's all setting

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up for a big segment on Friday SmackDown where Sammy's

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am will be talking with the OTC himself.

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Roman reigns, Yeah, no, it made sense when we first

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saw the initial Sammy, Jay and Jimmy interactions. You're like

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how can Sammy. Sammy's the one that you know, kind

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of was the turning point in the disillusion of you know,

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og bloodline if you want to call it that, and

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to have them come back into it. The way they're

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setting it up makes a lot of sense. I was

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actually hoping for like a what they call before the

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tribal the tribal roundtable, the tribal.

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The court thing.

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Yes, tribal court.

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Yeah, that thing went on for like fifty minutes. What

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was an amazing segment.

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Yeah, I was kind of hoping for, uh SmackDown, to

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have tribal court with Roman on trial this time and

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him trying to basically, you know, explain you know, his actions,

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his thoughts and everything else. The segment on Raw was

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great with Jimmy, Jay and Sammy, So I'm hoping we

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get another great segment when you throw Roman into the

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mix and maybe we give one big giant hugging it

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out or something. I don't know, but the way they're

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putting there, the way they're putting it together, makes more

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sense than the old school ways of oh no we're fine, No, no,

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you guys were just trying to kill each other, like

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not too long ago, no, no, We're good now. Yeah, yeah,

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at least now we're seeing some realistic mindsets when these

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storylines are going on.

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Or just like randomly changing a team name from.

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A Stable to Blackpool Combat Club to Death Writers without

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any explanation.

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I don't know how this will correlate on.

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The podcast, but Sammy posts it on his Instagram, the

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photo of the USOS and Roman as young kids and

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then him thrown in there as a young kid that

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was out there their own like white T shirts. It's

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a very classic photo, and he wrote as the caption,

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and it just makes me laugh every single time. He wrote,

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I remember the day we took this photo. Well, it

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was a Friday. We went out that night, and I

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remember it clearly because we were listening to DMX on

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the way to the club and it was the first

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time I edited I'd ever heard someone say that a

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song was quote tight. Great times, but sadly those days

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are gone. Stamy having a little bit of fun with it,

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but that was that just cracked me up. Loved the

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opening to the show. I've loved the follow up here

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and once again captivated by everything that the Bloodline does

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and their storyline overall. Next Match here is Jade card Gill,

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Bianca bell Air defeating Damage Control, Metaphor and Chelsea Green

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and Piper Niven in a fatal four way match, retaining

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the WA Women's Tag Team Championship.

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Both Doctor and I had Jade and Bianca.

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I feel like we are starting here and see some

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foreshadowing on eventual split with bell Air and Cargill as

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Corey Graves mentioned their separate entrances heading into this match.

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As for the match itself, I thought it was really

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good as specifically the Metaphor girls held their own coming

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up from NXT. There was some fall to follow up

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to that on Mundane regards to bel airin Cargill starting

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to see some foreshadowing going on as Live Morgan said

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that it's only a matter of time before they turn

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on one another. So it seems like we're starting to

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get ramped up here, Doctor Trey, little pieces bread clumbs

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are being put all over the place that a Bianco

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Jade split is probably incoming, which I'm digging your thoughts

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on this match from Crown Jewel.

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Pleasantly surprised, how's that one? Because I really didn't have

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high expert like look Damage controlling the match They're fantastic.

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I can watch Damage Control pretty much wrestle anytime, especially

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Eo Skuy metaphor stepping up into that role and doing

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a really good job. I was surprised because I'm not

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the biggest you know, Lash legend fan. You know, the

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whole thing wasn't huge, but they did really well. And

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then you know beyonc and they can have a great match,

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and then they can have an awful match. It just

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kind of goes back and forth. You never know what

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you're gonna get. This match was actually pretty well done.

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I love the tension building between Beyonce and Jade. I

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love how they followed it up, not only Corey commenting

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on it, you know at Crown Jewel, but then Live

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you know, bring it up again on Raw. This to

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me is just like, yeah, I fully expect them to

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break up at Rumble to lead to a WrestleMania match.

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So the tensions there, we just got to build up

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a couple of these are tag teams, so that way

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we feel like they're actually on par with Beyonce and Jay.

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So when that split happens, the women's tag division doesn't

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fall apart.

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Next match, here is Seth freaking Ronalds defeeding Bronson reed.

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We both had Seth rawals to win this one. Something

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I noticed at the beginning of this match was I

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wonder if they are quietly trying to slowly drop Freaking

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from Seth Roald's name.

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Was it on? It was not on the Titan tron

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Is Graphics at Seth Rons.

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I'm like, are they trying to do that? I could

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see freaky is more of a Vince Picman thing than

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a Triple H thing. On all honesty as well well

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as I only heard the ring announcer mention it, and

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the announceers graphics just referred to him as Seth Rollins,

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and I lost. I thought Bronson Reid looked really good,

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which is what we needed in this match, and they

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should follow that up with an eventual win against Ronalds

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help elevate Reid as Bronson's anger got the best of

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him in Rewalds capitalized in this one. Ronald saying you

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should have finished me when you had the chance was

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a really good touch. Plus Reid standing up post match

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was a cool moment. I thought this was Reid's best

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WWE match. They followed up on Raw where he got

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involved in the fatal four way number one contenders match

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for the World Away Championship. He takes out Seth Rollins.

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He looks like a monster, he looks like a beast.

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He takes out Damien, he takes out Seamus, you know,

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the Alps, dirty Dom and get the victory.

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I'm a fan of Bronson Reid. If it wasn't Seth

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Rowinds in this match, and this is what we said

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going into this one. If it wasn't Seth Ronalds going

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in this match, I'm like, you got to put Bronson

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Reid over. But because of the year that Seth Rollins

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has had.

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Where he's been in and out injured on TV for

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a little bit, off TV for a little bit, it's

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like Seth needs a win. And the way they booked

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this match to me, with all those different variables in place,

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was perfect because everybody came out of this one looking

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pretty good.

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Yeah, and that's your ultimate goal when you have a

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babyface beat your monster, you want your monsters still looks

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strong and not just completely discounted and toss aside. So

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I thought this made this made a lot of sense.

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Seth gets to win and he it wasn't like, you know,

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It was kind of like a flukey win in a sense,

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like because Bronton had control of it, so Seth gust

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to win. Bronton is like a monster my hope coming

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out of Monday Night. I after seen that, I was like, man,

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would it be great to see Bronton Reid end up

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in the Judgment Day because they need a muscle guy

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to kind of back up all the little guys in

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Judgment Day. If you end up trading out Carlito for

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Bronton Reid, I'm on board with as well, and then

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that can do. You can basically kind of run the

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same angle you ran with Damien where at some point

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he gets super over and the little guys kicking out

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of the group. So I just I really enjoyed it

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because it led to some you know things that you go, hey,

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they could go this route and that'd be cool. And

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if not, hey, Bronton Restill looks like a badass, which

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is what you want to have.

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Next match on this one was Live Morgan, the Women's

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World Champion, defeating Naia Jacks at w Women's Champion to

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win the WI Women's Crowndule Championship.

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I had lived out trade Naya Jacks I.

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Am most injured about the follow up to this all

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post matches, I'm not sure where Live Morgan goes from

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here with Ri on the Shelf.

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We'll talk about that later on the show.

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The way this match went led me to believe that

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Nai and Live or not done, but I can't see

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direction yet where that would continue being on opposite brands.

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They did not follow up on Raw on Monday Night.

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I like the Tiffany's trying to starting to rebel a

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little bit against Naijacks by threatening to tempting to cash

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in on her. Your thoughts on this one, Doctor Treys

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Live Morgan is the ww Women's Crown Duel Champion.

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It was a solid match. I sometimes when you have

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monsters versus cruiserweights, which is basically kind of this, it

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can either go really really bad or really really good.

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Sometimes contrasts and styles make great matches. Sometimes they're just bad.

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This one I really enjoyed. I thought they did a

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well job, like a really good job of selling you know,

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lives deviousness versus Nia's power. I'm still this match that

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was kind of I'm like, I don't really understand this

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whole Crown Jewel Championship thing. Because they don't really get

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the belt. They end up with the ring and the

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belt stays. That is still a little confusing.

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It just kind of reminds me of basically, this is

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Crown Jewl's not gonna be like in the Super Bowl

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where you get a trophy, uh and not a belt.

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So it is what it is. But it also be

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thinking like, man Live really is the dominant controlling female

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in WWE right now, it's not. I mean, the horse

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women outside of Bailey are basically all gone or on

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the shelf. Rhea's in and out, Like putting Live over

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here kind of shows how much faith they have in

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her as being the focal point of the whole women's roster,

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not just a fill in champion right now.

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That's true.

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We're about like six eight weeks away from our end

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of the year award show, and without giving away who

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you would choose right now, did this victory the way

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that things are going, Rhea going on the shelf shelf

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time with Tony Storm not really being around since all

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in all out timeframe, did Live Morgan pull ahead potentially

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as the female rest of the year.

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Yeah, It's very possible because I mean it kind of

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depends on I mean, if you had gone just through June,

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I probably would have had Lived like fourth or fifth.

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But with Rhea's injury, Tony Storm taking time off, some

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of the other women not really stepping their game up

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to I just feel like Live's gone to a different

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level since her return. So if you had a call

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right now, I would give the edge to Live over

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everybody else in women's wrestling.

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Next match here is Randy or versus Kevin Owens being

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ruled a no contest as the match never took place,

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So we had Kevin Owens in this one, but the

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match never happened. I thought this was a good way

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to keep the violence of the feud going. I'm not

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a fan of a no contest no contest slash DQ,

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but this was executed pretty well and made a lot

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of sense. I wonder if Orrin and Owen's direction as

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an eventual three way match with Cody as soon as

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relatively soon, because there's been a couple of vignettes or

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backstage segments where Randy's been eyeing the w un Disputed

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Championship lately. I was fine with this, Doctor Trey. I

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don't like seeing promoted matches never take place, especially for

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the crowd.

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But I thought the way that they did this.

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Made sense, and I thought fans were sent home happy

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because it was a well thought out.

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Plan for the way that this match went to a

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no contest.

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Your thoughts, Yeah, I didn't hate it, but I felt

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I don't know, like in my head when I saw this,

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I was like, you could have booked it this way

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and you could have booked it as a different way.

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That's only because I think it was right before that

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they did the Crown Jewel press conference and Kevin Owens

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was like sealing ray Ordy. He's like, I would have

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never done to you what you did to me. I

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loved you, Da da da. It felt like this route

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was an amplification of violence when they didn't really have

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that much leading into a couple weeks before. It just

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felt like they jumped a level. Like I'm fine with it.

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It makes sense. I get why they did it, but

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I could have easily seen just Kevin Ellen was going,

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you know, I'm not doing this match and just rolled

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out of the ring and walked away. So there's a

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couple different ways that could have gone with it. But

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you know, I'm fine with the route. They did. I

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just felt like they just kind of jumped it. They

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jumped over a level and putting this together.

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Interesting. Interesting.

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Yeah, I mean most of the time you want to

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see the match take place, but I guess for the

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few it it made sense to me. I mean, I

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don't like no contest, but I thought that the way

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that it was so violent and laid each other out

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and injuries and all that stuff, that I just felt like,

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all right, that makes sense. Let's see where it goes

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from here, because I think the direction is these two

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guys will be in a three way match with Cody

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at some point.

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Yeah. No, I don't. It wasn't I that I disliked it.

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I understood why they did it. It just felt like,

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other than what a couple of small physical interactions leading

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into it, it's basically just been a lot of talk

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if I'm wrong, No, no.

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You're right, But I mean Owens has been on TV.

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Did they like sending him home?

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But it just felt like to have it go to

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this all out kind of brawl between these guys when

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they really haven't is because it, like the vignettes I'm

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watching is kind of Ko telling Randy he's wrong and

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do you.

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Think like Ko's gone a little bit crazy.

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Yeah to it, agree, But once again, Randy's Randy's the

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new cerebral assassin. I don't know if he to me,

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he's he's more mental in his aspects than he is violent,

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you know, which was always like the Triple H character,

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which I think Randy's kind of taken over that role.

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I don't know if his character would have It's kind

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of like just a dichotomy of the character. I don't

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know if Randy's character right now is to go to

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straight violence without thinking it out. And I felt like

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it's just I don't know, Like I said, I could

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have I don't have a problem with the way they

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did it. I would have also been, like, you know,

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if Kao had got in the ring the bell got

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ready to ring, he just dipped out and walked down

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and goes, no, I'm not fighting you, Randy, I love you.

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You're wrong on this one. I'm not going to be

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the one that jur your career like this. You're wrong,

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We're not doing this and walked away. So I'm fine

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with the way they did it. I just still would

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have liked to see a little more build up to

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physicality before they got to that level. If I don't

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know that makes sense to you, But that's kind of

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like I want to see one more step before we

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get to a match that you can't even control it

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all because they have that much hatred now all of

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a sudden.

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No, it makes sense. But King you also take into

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account that like Ko started this, I mean physically he started.

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This, Yeah, but it wasn't the shot like in his

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mind accidental the initial shots and Randy hit him.

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Randy had the back elbow, right, accidental elbow, so that

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would have been an accident in his mind Randy's mind, right, Yeah.

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And more, Kevin Owens is upset that he's like siding

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with Cody Roads, that's the side that he picked.

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Yeah, and I get, like I said, I don't have

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a problem with it. I think it's fine the way

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they did it. I just wanted to see because Ko's

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a hot head, he's hot tempered, he's gonna fire off. Randy, though,

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was more meticulous in what he does. So the Randy

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character I thought should have been a little bit more

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strategic in the approach and not just go to straight

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brawling all out, you know. But then I don't know,

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I guys said I I don't have a problem with it.

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I just there are other ways of getting into it

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to increase the anticipation for an all out brawl instead

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of just jumping right to the all out brawl.

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Yeah, the no contest DQ stuff is strange. I think

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think a lot of wrestling fans can't. We can't get

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our heads around it because it's not it's not the

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result that we like when you're watching, Like a PLA,

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you want to do it during TV, fine, but a PLA,

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it's like, uh really, like come on, guys, people pay

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actually watch this shit.

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It's also a way to keep both guys from having

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a loss when you're trying to build them up to

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then include Cody into it, which is one thing that

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we have kind of knocked WWE on is we haven't

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had that great, strong challenger for Cody yet. This is

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a way of keeping both guys strong, no losses on

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their resume, so that way, when we go to a

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triple threat or we go to something with these guys,

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it makes no more sense and both guys have their

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credibility re established.

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Next match here is La Night defeating Andrade and Carmelo

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Hayes in a triple threat match retain the w United

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States Championship with both at La Night and this one

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that was one of the most innovative finishers finishes I've

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ever seen in a triple threat match, with Carmelo going

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for the Hurricane roun a facebuster on Androde only be

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caught with a BFT for La Knight for the one

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two three.

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This is an old school feel for feel for me

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or the upper mid car title.

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Some strong competitors in it that can steal the show

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at any given night if given the opportunity, and I

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hope that the US title division continues to draw on SmackDown.

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I enjoyed this one outch Trey your thoughts as La

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00:22:17.279 --> 00:22:17.880
Night retained.

472
00:22:18.599 --> 00:22:20.920
Yeah, it's a really fun mattery. It's weird. I don't

473
00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:23.880
know if I've always bought in as Andrade as a

474
00:22:23.960 --> 00:22:26.240
baby face because I love him as a heel so much,

475
00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:29.400
but in this situation, I thought it made sense because

476
00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:32.160
Carmelo's over as a heel and Drade's kind of in,

477
00:22:32.319 --> 00:22:34.039
you know, people want to cheer for him, but he's

478
00:22:34.079 --> 00:22:35.759
kind of in the middle, and La Knight's been love

479
00:22:35.839 --> 00:22:38.160
so it made sense that you have a heel a

480
00:22:38.279 --> 00:22:39.680
guy that's kind of in the middle and then the

481
00:22:39.720 --> 00:22:42.759
baby face, but the babyface kind of acts like an asshole,

482
00:22:43.279 --> 00:22:46.720
so it works out well. So really fun match, creative finish.

483
00:22:48.160 --> 00:22:51.400
But yeah, I don't know how if you think about

484
00:22:51.400 --> 00:22:54.160
this is what I do. I almost like La Knight's

485
00:22:54.240 --> 00:22:56.920
too over to be in the mid card title hunt,

486
00:22:57.039 --> 00:22:59.920
Like he should be higher up the food chain because

487
00:23:00.039 --> 00:23:03.279
it's like all the mid car guys on SmackDown haven't

488
00:23:03.279 --> 00:23:07.039
been established enough to be on his level. So like

489
00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:10.480
when he's fighting Santos Escobar or Carmelo or even Andrade,

490
00:23:11.279 --> 00:23:13.680
it always feels like it's a little overmatched that La

491
00:23:13.759 --> 00:23:16.680
Knight's really heavily favored in every one of these. I

492
00:23:16.720 --> 00:23:18.720
think we got still got to build some guys up

493
00:23:18.799 --> 00:23:21.000
and have a couple guys get some victories over or

494
00:23:21.079 --> 00:23:24.440
beat l A. Knight down, so that way you go, yeah,

495
00:23:24.480 --> 00:23:27.079
I see that he could be in trouble here. The

496
00:23:27.440 --> 00:23:29.599
triple threats are just a way to kind of do

497
00:23:29.680 --> 00:23:31.960
the whole well, he's only got a thirty three percent

498
00:23:32.119 --> 00:23:34.359
chance to win if it's a triple threat. It's that

499
00:23:34.559 --> 00:23:36.799
kind of selling. I always hate, I hear you.

500
00:23:36.960 --> 00:23:40.039
I really feel like WWE should look back at like

501
00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:43.440
nineteen ninety nine Rock when he was over as a babyface,

502
00:23:43.519 --> 00:23:46.039
but he was still acting as a heel, very arrogant,

503
00:23:46.039 --> 00:23:48.319
and very similar to the La Night character, which sometimes

504
00:23:48.440 --> 00:23:50.559
is a detriment to La Knight and often pointing out

505
00:23:50.599 --> 00:23:53.440
by some people. I would look at that, at the

506
00:23:53.480 --> 00:23:55.680
way that they booked Rock back then, you got to

507
00:23:55.720 --> 00:23:58.680
make him still look like a sympathetic babyface and not

508
00:23:58.839 --> 00:24:01.519
to be looking like this guy who's an upper mid

509
00:24:01.599 --> 00:24:03.960
carter that should be in the main event picture, but

510
00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:07.200
utilizing him well in the upper mid cart right now

511
00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:10.799
while you still can and are because the main event

512
00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:13.079
is a little bit more congested than anything else.

513
00:24:13.759 --> 00:24:16.680
So that's what I would say. I do see those similarities.

514
00:24:16.720 --> 00:24:18.440
It's funny that you point this out, because as I

515
00:24:18.559 --> 00:24:20.920
was watching Crown Jewel, I was like, I think it

516
00:24:21.000 --> 00:24:23.319
was a year ago where he was in the match

517
00:24:23.359 --> 00:24:25.400
with Roman Reigns and that was on the part of

518
00:24:25.480 --> 00:24:28.160
his comeuppance in w And I'm like, is he a

519
00:24:28.240 --> 00:24:32.160
bigger star now than he was back then? And I

520
00:24:32.240 --> 00:24:34.400
think it's just kind of like even playing field, He's

521
00:24:34.480 --> 00:24:36.720
not less of a star as he was a year ago.

522
00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:38.680
He's not more of a star as he was a

523
00:24:38.759 --> 00:24:41.319
year ago. He's just kind of stayed that way, which

524
00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:43.799
is a good thing because sometimes when people are on

525
00:24:43.920 --> 00:24:47.440
a rocket ship ascending upwards, they can crash back to

526
00:24:47.559 --> 00:24:51.279
Earth pretty easily and effectively if the fans don't get

527
00:24:51.279 --> 00:24:55.240
behind them anymore. He's maintained that, and I think that's

528
00:24:55.279 --> 00:24:56.880
a good thing for the long term of La Night.

529
00:24:56.960 --> 00:24:58.640
But going back to your point, doctor, I would look

530
00:24:58.680 --> 00:25:00.799
back at like ninety nine Rock and be like, Okay,

531
00:25:00.839 --> 00:25:03.200
how did we how did we get the heels over

532
00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:04.440
on him a little bit more?

533
00:25:05.519 --> 00:25:08.440
Yeah, it's just for a company that has as many

534
00:25:08.680 --> 00:25:11.720
groups and factions as they do, Uh, you would think

535
00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:15.279
it'd be maybe a carrying cross faction, although they're on

536
00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:18.960
raw now, but something like that where you have other guys,

537
00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:22.880
even Santos with you know, the Garzas, you know, have

538
00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:25.279
all of them be down La Knight. You guess you

539
00:25:25.319 --> 00:25:28.079
just gotta get some sympathy because right now, like when

540
00:25:28.119 --> 00:25:29.799
I watch the shows, I'm like, I don't feel like

541
00:25:29.920 --> 00:25:34.079
La Knights in Jeopardy of losing matches to a lot

542
00:25:34.079 --> 00:25:35.960
of these guys because there just doesn't seem any there's

543
00:25:36.039 --> 00:25:39.079
not enough obstacles in his way. It just feels like

544
00:25:39.160 --> 00:25:41.960
he's just kind of running through guys, and it does also,

545
00:25:42.039 --> 00:25:44.119
I don't know about you, does it Does it feel

546
00:25:44.160 --> 00:25:47.240
like he's elevating anybody in the mid card division right

547
00:25:47.279 --> 00:25:50.319
now in this run? And I the Rock compareson is

548
00:25:50.359 --> 00:25:52.759
great because I feel like Rock elevated Ken Shamrocks and

549
00:25:52.799 --> 00:25:54.799
the Owen Harts and some of those guys in that

550
00:25:55.039 --> 00:25:57.559
in that mid card division back in ninety nine. I

551
00:25:57.640 --> 00:25:59.920
don't know if I feel like La Knight's elevating anybody

552
00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:02.599
else to get closer to his level because we just

553
00:26:02.640 --> 00:26:04.319
don't see what. I just don't feel like he's in

554
00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:05.480
jeopardy at all right now.

555
00:26:06.440 --> 00:26:07.680
I think you and I look at this type of

556
00:26:07.720 --> 00:26:11.319
stuff differently because we watch all forms of wrestling. I

557
00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:14.039
think if I took a step back, I would say

558
00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:18.079
Andrade and Carmelo have been elevated being involved with La Knight,

559
00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:20.279
all right.

560
00:26:20.359 --> 00:26:23.079
I mean I can say that they elevate themselves based

561
00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:24.559
on those six matches they had.

562
00:26:24.559 --> 00:26:28.319
But but what's the next step from those matches that series?

563
00:26:28.400 --> 00:26:29.559
And that would this would be it?

564
00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:33.720
Yeah? No, you're right, I feel like, yeah, but do

565
00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:36.359
you feel like Santos got elevated in his little rivalry

566
00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:37.240
he had with l Knight.

567
00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:39.640
No, No, they need to do more with Santos Escumor.

568
00:26:39.720 --> 00:26:40.880
He's very, very talented.

569
00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:43.599
Yeah, I just feel like sometimes you when you have

570
00:26:43.720 --> 00:26:47.079
a strong mid card champion, you just gotta have some

571
00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:48.920
you gotta feel like you're bringing other guys up to

572
00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:50.720
that level. And it's weird to say that about Andrada.

573
00:26:50.759 --> 00:26:53.319
This guy's been a multiple time champion. It's just that

574
00:26:53.440 --> 00:26:56.960
I feel like since he came back, he's plateaued at

575
00:26:57.160 --> 00:26:59.240
like a mid card level, where lle Knight's at an

576
00:26:59.319 --> 00:27:01.720
upper mid car our lower main event level. I don't

577
00:27:01.759 --> 00:27:04.519
feel like andrades up to his level. But that's why

578
00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:07.559
you put him in a triple threat, because that increases

579
00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:10.240
the odds of them losing, and it'd be okay. I

580
00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:11.920
just feel like if you said, hey, La Night's going

581
00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:14.559
one on one with Andrade, or La Night's going one

582
00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:16.880
on one with Carmelo, I just figure most fans are

583
00:27:16.920 --> 00:27:18.880
gonna go, Yeah, it's an easy win. That's a win

584
00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:21.000
for La Night. You put him in a triple threat

585
00:27:21.079 --> 00:27:24.559
match because it does increase the obstacle to it. But

586
00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:28.799
I just don't feel like those guys are on his level.

587
00:27:28.880 --> 00:27:31.880
Yet comparatively speaking.

588
00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:35.200
Well to your original point, baby Face Andrade against l

589
00:27:35.240 --> 00:27:38.599
A Night not doing it for me, lack of elevation.

590
00:27:39.319 --> 00:27:41.599
Andrade when he's turned heel is one of the best.

591
00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:44.240
I think, Yes, you gotta turn him heel in a

592
00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:46.880
feud here with LA nine and that and him winning

593
00:27:46.920 --> 00:27:48.720
the US Championship would make a ton of sense, and

594
00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:52.480
it elevates Andrade. I mean they're if I'm if there's

595
00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:55.640
a bagging of the drum of like, oh right, which

596
00:27:55.680 --> 00:27:56.720
baby face should we turn heel?

597
00:27:56.759 --> 00:27:59.759
Right now? In w A without question? Andredes one of

598
00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:02.000
those names that I mentioned, Oh.

599
00:28:01.960 --> 00:28:04.119
Yeah, absolutely, I can't. I could agree with more right

600
00:28:04.119 --> 00:28:04.559
down there.

601
00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:07.559
And then finally the main event, Cody Roads, the endisp

602
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:10.079
at W champion, defeats gun thro World of Weight Champion

603
00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:12.680
to win the Men's W Crowndewel Championship. We both had,

604
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:16.000
Cody and this one enjoyable finish that protects the losing champion.

605
00:28:16.119 --> 00:28:19.079
This one Gunther as it came off as Cody Rhodes

606
00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:21.480
catching gun for the pin rather than outright beating him.

607
00:28:21.839 --> 00:28:23.039
Solid performance from two.

608
00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:26.039
Guys on top of their game in we handshake postmatch

609
00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:31.039
following night or two nights later on Raw, Gunther said

610
00:28:31.319 --> 00:28:34.880
that that Cody was a better man and had his respect.

611
00:28:35.920 --> 00:28:37.400
I thought it was good all around. It was just

612
00:28:37.480 --> 00:28:41.119
a very solid wrestling match, and I don't think anybody

613
00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:43.759
looked bad. Your thoughts here, doctor Trey, as Cody is

614
00:28:43.799 --> 00:28:45.599
the men's w WE Crown Jewel Champion.

615
00:28:46.680 --> 00:28:51.759
Yeah, I thought the match itself was really good, really enjoyable,

616
00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:55.119
some really good ring psychology to it. It made sense.

617
00:28:55.880 --> 00:28:59.440
I'm just not a huge fan of the post match handshakes.

618
00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:03.799
I'm really not unless it's two baby faces. I don't

619
00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:06.680
get it. I really don't like this is this. I

620
00:29:06.759 --> 00:29:10.920
could never see Superman Alex Luthor shaking hands after a match,

621
00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:14.160
and gun There's supposed to be a villainous champion. I

622
00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:17.400
get it, the ring is sacred. He respects what Cody

623
00:29:17.480 --> 00:29:20.759
did in that match, but I just I could do

624
00:29:20.839 --> 00:29:23.720
without the handshakes. I just this is not my thing

625
00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:26.640
and is probably the old curmudgeon in me that just

626
00:29:26.799 --> 00:29:30.279
likes I like my strong, dividing lions against good guys

627
00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:33.279
and bad guys. I don't like bad guys looking and

628
00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:37.799
endearing or looking respectful at times. I just want Gunther

629
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:40.279
to go roll the ring and come back on wrong goo.

630
00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:43.039
You know, we had a great match. Cody earned my

631
00:29:43.160 --> 00:29:45.279
respect in his performance, but he got lucky. He should

632
00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:47.200
never you know, that would never happen.

633
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:51.160
Again, to be fair, To be fair, You've always been

634
00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:53.759
a fan of double kisses on the cheek right.

635
00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:57.000
Kind of handshakes usually, but.

636
00:29:57.039 --> 00:30:00.599
That's usually backstage when there's no cameras, and then you

637
00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:01.680
know things can escalate.

638
00:30:01.880 --> 00:30:02.680
Okay, fair enough.

639
00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:05.559
I thought you were an in ring one kiss left cheek,

640
00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:08.880
one kiss right cheek, and everybody's happy, like Nunzio did

641
00:30:09.599 --> 00:30:12.720
on Wednesday's edition of nxt.

642
00:30:13.519 --> 00:30:15.119
UH pay per view.

643
00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:17.680
Prediction record for this one, I'm six and oh doct

644
00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:19.519
trail one four and two on the year, I'm one,

645
00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:21.640
thirty three and thirty six doctor Trail one twenty and

646
00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:22.400
forty nine.

647
00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:25.960
Match of the night. In event rating, I gave the

648
00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:27.960
event a three point seven. I thought it was a

649
00:30:28.039 --> 00:30:30.799
fine show and my favorite match was the blood Line

650
00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:33.480
and Roman Reigns. In the USOS, let's say you.

651
00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:36.079
Doctor Troit, I was a little ower. I was three

652
00:30:36.119 --> 00:30:38.920
point five. My mentionine I was blood line in you know,

653
00:30:39.039 --> 00:30:42.960
blood line and old blood line or repurpose blood line

654
00:30:43.039 --> 00:30:43.799
or two blood.

655
00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:45.079
Line, pretty purposed blood line.

656
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:47.880
I don't know, but yeah, that was my match then.

657
00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:50.799
And then I guess at three point five on the show,

658
00:30:50.960 --> 00:30:52.880
I thought it was I thought it was a solid show.

659
00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:57.240
But once again, I don't think there's anything to other

660
00:30:57.359 --> 00:30:59.680
than Sammy kicking Roman. There's really nothing going to be

661
00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:02.200
super memorable three years from now about it.

662
00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:05.559
No, I would agree with you, all right, So I

663
00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:10.400
just mentioned Nunzo, I mentioned NXT. Last night was the

664
00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:15.759
one night only WWE versus AW W NXC versus AW

665
00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:19.640
Wednesday Night War as NXT slid over to Wednesday nights

666
00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:22.000
due to the election coverage here in the United States.

667
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:27.119
NXC was emanating from ECW Arena twenty three hundred Arena

668
00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:32.160
in Philadelphia and AW was emanating Dynamite from College in

669
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:37.920
New Hampshire. I went into this one Doctor Trey being like,

670
00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:40.000
I want to watch NXT, and that was a show

671
00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:40.559
that I watched.

672
00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:40.880
First.

673
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:47.240
I watched NXT live. I watched AW on DVR. What

674
00:31:47.559 --> 00:31:50.359
was your viewing of this? Did you watch either show live?

675
00:31:50.440 --> 00:31:53.480
Did you watch them on DVR later on? What were

676
00:31:53.519 --> 00:31:55.759
your thoughts on that? And then what we'll do is

677
00:31:55.799 --> 00:31:58.480
we'll discuss who we thought walked out of the One

678
00:31:58.599 --> 00:32:01.359
Night Only Wednesday Night or the Victor.

679
00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:03.920
So, how did you go about watching ones? And I

680
00:32:04.039 --> 00:32:05.119
wore on last night?

681
00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:11.039
So I had NXT on live. Now, mind you running

682
00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:14.079
a fever several trips of the bathroom during the show,

683
00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:17.920
so there may be a couple of things that I missed.

684
00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:19.880
I had to go back and read to see what

685
00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:23.079
I might have missed while I was trying to compensate.

686
00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:29.960
I actually watched Dynamite this morning, so that was my viewings,

687
00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:32.359
and that's my and that's my typical antime. These shows

688
00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:35.240
overlap or things like that happened. That's typically I'll watch

689
00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:39.759
the ww stuff live and then catch aw on. Well

690
00:32:39.799 --> 00:32:42.799
you say DVR, I have an app that streams all

691
00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:46.079
the wrestling shows to me. So that's kind of my

692
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:47.359
viewing habits anyway.

693
00:32:48.039 --> 00:32:50.759
So looking back at the show, my recap, I'll be

694
00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:53.000
interested with doctor Trey said, I'll just come out in

695
00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:57.000
the open here. Neither show blew me away as a

696
00:32:57.039 --> 00:33:00.799
wrestling fan. If I had to pick one over the other,

697
00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:02.240
I thought the.

698
00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:05.920
Better show was just slightly aw Dynamite. Last night.

699
00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:10.519
I thought WWE, NXT and the ECW Arena kind of

700
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:15.599
felt like a mixed match, rushed show, got off the

701
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:18.799
beaten path the success that they've had as of late

702
00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:22.720
as a show, and was so uber focused on ECW

703
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:24.319
and all that stuff, and I was like, Okay, that

704
00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:26.799
makes a ton of sense. There were some great cameos,

705
00:33:26.880 --> 00:33:30.359
some returns Rhino RVD that was a lot of fun.

706
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:31.079
In nostalgia.

707
00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:35.200
I thought from a viewing standpoint, it looked like relatively small,

708
00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:38.640
like there was maybe five hundred fans in attendance. I

709
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:40.519
always thought the ECW arena could fit.

710
00:33:40.519 --> 00:33:40.960
More than that.

711
00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:44.440
I would have gone a little bit more on the

712
00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:47.680
nostalgia front, and I wouldn't have done your typical NXT

713
00:33:48.839 --> 00:33:52.319
ringing that entrance. I would have done the old ECW

714
00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:55.839
like NXC style entrance with the brick and the barboire.

715
00:33:56.039 --> 00:33:58.359
Let them come out that way. I would have tried

716
00:33:58.400 --> 00:33:59.400
to get Joey Styles.

717
00:33:59.440 --> 00:33:59.920
Maybe they did.

718
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:02.759
I don't know where Joey Styles is at anymore to

719
00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:05.559
be involved in this one. The ring announcer from ECW

720
00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:07.640
I would have brought back for this one. Let Mike

721
00:34:07.720 --> 00:34:09.480
Rome sit it out. He was over in Saudi Arabia

722
00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:12.639
a couple days ago. Make it all ECW in that sense,

723
00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:14.719
and I thought that they missed a little bit out

724
00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:17.639
on it. So I thought from the viewing standpoint, it didn't.

725
00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:20.880
It just felt like an arena that Impact Wrestling TNA

726
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:25.719
would have their shows taped in, rather than something that

727
00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:27.239
looked like the ECW.

728
00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:27.719
Arena at one time.

729
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:34.639
AW Dynamite was just it was fine. It wasn't anything

730
00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:36.400
that blew it out of the water. I liked last

731
00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:39.880
week's episode versus this week's episode. But when you're comparing

732
00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:44.320
the two, I watched NXT live AW Dynamite on DVR

733
00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:49.079
on demand. It was the better show to me was

734
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:52.239
AW Dynamite, and it just was like a tick more.

735
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:55.760
It was like neither one was amazing great blew the

736
00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:59.000
other one out of the water. I just thought AW

737
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:02.239
was slightly better. Doctor Trey, what were your thoughts as

738
00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:04.880
you compared the two and and and give us who

739
00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:07.960
you thought was the better show on on Wednesday Night

740
00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:08.679
this past week.

741
00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:14.840
So it's weird, like like, as far as an actual show,

742
00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:19.239
I thought AW had a better show as far as

743
00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:23.559
continuing storylines, adding depth, you know, creating intrigue stuff like that.

744
00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:27.760
WW might a one because of the nostalgia aspect of it,

745
00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:30.159
because I mean, look, it was great that Trick couldn't

746
00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:33.360
find a table, so we got Devon to come out

747
00:35:33.360 --> 00:35:37.280
and get the tables. Seeing they were actually between RVD

748
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:39.840
and wes Lee. I thought that was really cool in

749
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:42.239
the sense of, like, man, these are basically the two

750
00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:46.239
best high flyers, one of their generations, one with our generation.

751
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:48.719
And then throwing Javon Evans into mixer that was great.

752
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:51.400
You get Don Marie out there and there's Francin and

753
00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:53.159
a ringsi on. I was waiting for a cat fight

754
00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:55.639
to break out, you know, in the front row. But

755
00:35:56.280 --> 00:35:59.679
it felt like a w W E c W show.

756
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:03.760
It felt like that those shows from that era of

757
00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:06.719
the ECW that w was using that we all didn't

758
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:11.199
like that much because it wasn't ECW, it was their version.

759
00:36:11.639 --> 00:36:14.920
It felt kind of like that. And although the matches

760
00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:20.679
had continuance of their storylines, the nostalgia aspect kind of

761
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:23.840
took away from the build to those storty lines. Like

762
00:36:23.880 --> 00:36:26.480
the only match that really had any kind of continuance

763
00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:28.840
of their storylines was the Ladies made the Ladies five

764
00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:32.440
on five match. Everything else kind of felt like, yeah,

765
00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:34.000
there's there are in a few, but we got we

766
00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:36.679
had to shove these guys into it. So as far

767
00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:41.480
as a workable show storyline wise, depth, you know, all

768
00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:43.840
that stuff, I thought AW was a little bit better

769
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:48.079
than WWE. But seeing Rhino Gore, Robert Stone was fantastic,

770
00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:50.280
you know, seeing some of that stuff that was great,

771
00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:53.960
But the depth of that show was less than what

772
00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:56.880
AW was putting on. So I gave AW the edge

773
00:36:56.960 --> 00:37:01.159
on having a better show for their product in their future.

774
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:04.519
The other thing, and I hate doing this, but clearly,

775
00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:09.360
uh time catches up to all of us. Rvd's not wrestling.

776
00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:11.920
When I've watched RVD wrestle in the past, it's like,

777
00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:14.519
oh he's you know, he's a guy in his fifties

778
00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:15.840
at this point. It's what it looks like.

779
00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:18.800
H NUNZIOH God Bless him. Was the first time he

780
00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:23.400
wrestled the match in sixteen years. I read he did

781
00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:25.559
the best he could. I got a good laugh when

782
00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:28.039
he did the Sign of the Cross before the finishing move.

783
00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:31.079
It was nice to see Tony Mama Luke, who is

784
00:37:31.159 --> 00:37:33.559
kind of like one of those like rare hidden gems

785
00:37:33.679 --> 00:37:36.960
in ECW wasn't there that long. I actually had like

786
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:39.119
a better run in ROH than he did an ECW

787
00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:42.840
longer run in ROH than he did an ECW. Don Marie,

788
00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:45.400
I think counted three several times in the match before

789
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:46.119
the actual three.

790
00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:47.960
Did you notice that, doctor try?

791
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:51.679
I think sometimes that gravity against the best of us.

792
00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:53.519
It is hard to do that two and three quarter

793
00:37:53.679 --> 00:37:55.920
count if you're not prepared.

794
00:37:55.679 --> 00:37:59.159
For Yeah, and then I saw people shitting on and

795
00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:00.960
maybe it was sarr casm. It's hard to read and

796
00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:03.320
when it comes to online but shitting that they used

797
00:38:03.320 --> 00:38:05.840
a fake brick. It's like, did you want me to

798
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:06.559
use a real one?

799
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:06.840
Like?

800
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:08.639
What do we what are we doing here?

801
00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:12.119
I mean, we've learned from what some of the shots

802
00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:16.880
that the people in ECW took, how that went. I

803
00:38:17.440 --> 00:38:20.119
know Devon can't get cleared in a w ring, but

804
00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:22.079
you haven't come out you bring a table like I

805
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:25.159
expect three D like not a double choke slam from

806
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:30.320
Bubba Ray and Trick Williams. Trick once again looks like

807
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:37.199
a giraffe without ice skates on ice rink at times

808
00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:39.800
in the match. So, I mean, it was just like

809
00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:41.920
it was what it was, And I really liked how

810
00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:45.719
you said it felt like a WWEE E CW promotion

811
00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:50.559
or produced event rather than a e CW produced event.

812
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:54.559
So overall it was nice, it was cool. I hope

813
00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:56.760
they go back and do the ecwring again. I like

814
00:38:57.000 --> 00:39:01.239
we bring the NXC brand around these nostalgia shows. I

815
00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:03.760
would bring them to the Hammer's time in New York

816
00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:06.639
or Manhattan Center where Raw used to be, like those

817
00:39:06.679 --> 00:39:10.199
three areas that w W is considering for the future shows.

818
00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:12.920
I think that would be a lot of fun. But overall,

819
00:39:13.079 --> 00:39:15.840
just slightly for me, it was it was AW dot Tree.

820
00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:16.559
You went with w W.

821
00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:19.719
Correct, No, I was AW is a better show.

822
00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:21.679
Okay, you went with a W overall, but what do

823
00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:23.920
you feel the same way just slightly better or did

824
00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:25.280
you think it was it wasn't.

825
00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:27.719
It wasn't It wasn't much better. But just like I said,

826
00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:32.400
like just on depth of continuing their storylines, a W

827
00:39:32.559 --> 00:39:34.840
had the edge, like you had the stuff with you know,

828
00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:38.239
Ricochet and Hobbs and the callis Family and then you

829
00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:41.840
know the Learning Tree and the congomeration and then stat

830
00:39:41.960 --> 00:39:45.599
Landers stuff with merce City has been like the depth

831
00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:48.639
of continuing their storylines was better on AW than what

832
00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:52.639
uh NXT did. By the way, should if they do

833
00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:56.480
want in Atlanta can we get a w c W

834
00:39:56.880 --> 00:39:59.199
throw back night or something. Or if they go to

835
00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:03.039
the UH, oh the Universal Studios in Orlando, can we

836
00:40:03.119 --> 00:40:05.519
get it like a TNA throwback one? Is this gonna

837
00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:07.239
be like the trend? If we go to an old

838
00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:11.079
building that's known for another promotion, we get throwback nights.

839
00:40:11.360 --> 00:40:14.599
Well, they did the remember NXC did the building in Atlanta.

840
00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:16.880
What what was that the sound stage?

841
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:18.760
Oh what the.

842
00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:22.840
Center stage? They did a couple of shows there back.

843
00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:24.800
In the day, but they didn't bring back any of

844
00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:26.960
the w c W n W A guide, I mean

845
00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:27.679
you could have had.

846
00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:32.400
That was under Vince's reign. Vince never capitalized on anything

847
00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:34.880
w CNW. They should have done like a throwback Nitro

848
00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:37.679
once on a raw that'd be great, like.

849
00:40:38.159 --> 00:40:40.599
From the from the do one from you know Atlanta,

850
00:40:40.760 --> 00:40:43.199
like you know, especially if Goldberg comes back, you can

851
00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:45.400
do one in the Georgia Dome or like in Atlanta

852
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:49.199
the new UH Arena. The Hawks play at UH and

853
00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:51.920
then do you know throwback like you know goldbergs in

854
00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:53.559
the ring and then all of a sudden, Nwong music

855
00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:56.079
hits that would blow people, like blow the minds of

856
00:40:56.119 --> 00:40:56.800
guys like you and me.

857
00:40:57.519 --> 00:40:59.559
One of the last WA video games I bought. I

858
00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:01.320
think it was two UK fourteen Doctor Trade. This is

859
00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:06.239
more up up your area here of expertise. They're like

860
00:41:06.320 --> 00:41:10.159
one of the main storylines was WW like returned in Takeover.

861
00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:11.639
Do you remember that one?

862
00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:12.960
Yeah? Yeah, I do.

863
00:41:13.239 --> 00:41:13.880
It was like Kevin.

864
00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:16.119
It was like Kevin Nash. I think like Rna Anderson

865
00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:18.519
was involved in it as well, and I loved it.

866
00:41:19.159 --> 00:41:21.480
That was a really cool storyline and I'd be down

867
00:41:21.559 --> 00:41:24.679
with that. But yeah, give us some more Nostaal Jacks

868
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:27.559
to a WW tribute show now that Vince has gone,

869
00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:33.159
all right, so switching gears here. WWE has launched a

870
00:41:33.239 --> 00:41:36.920
revolutionary program called the Indie Wrestling Development Program, also known

871
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:40.719
as ID program. The program is designed to provide up

872
00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:43.679
and coming independent wrestlers with a pathway to a potential

873
00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:47.079
career in WE. Under the program, w will provide prominent

874
00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:51.119
independent wrestling schools with the WID official designation, with the

875
00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:53.719
goal providing new trainees and existing talent at these select

876
00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:58.880
institutions with enhanced developmental opportunities. WID will also I definity

877
00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:03.320
a top independent wrestling prospects with official WID Prospect designation

878
00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:07.519
and support their development journey. But providing financial opportunity, assisting

879
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:11.480
with training, mentorship and development, including access to facilities, ring training,

880
00:42:11.559 --> 00:42:12.920
athletic trainers, and more.

881
00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:15.679
A couple of these promotions include.

882
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:18.760
Doctor Trey Bookert's Reality of Wrestling in Houston, Codey Roads,

883
00:42:18.800 --> 00:42:21.880
Diamar Factory in Atlanta, Seth Ronds, Black and Brave Academy

884
00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:24.920
in Davenport, Iowa, Elite Pro Wrestling Training Center in Concord

885
00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:27.960
in New Hampshire, and Knox Pro Wrestling in Los Angeles.

886
00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:31.519
Gabe Suppole Scully part of those overseeing the WID program.

887
00:42:32.599 --> 00:42:34.559
This is a pretty cool program, Doctor Trade. This is

888
00:42:34.599 --> 00:42:37.440
something that I never thought WWE would do. Your thoughts

889
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:39.400
on this big change that is going on within World

890
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:40.280
Wrestling Entertainment.

891
00:42:41.760 --> 00:42:44.360
I think it's great for a lot of the reasons.

892
00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:47.400
One is, you know, for a while w B had

893
00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:49.840
had put out needing. This is under Vince that you know,

894
00:42:49.960 --> 00:42:52.840
they weren't looking for independent talent. They wanted just athletes

895
00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:56.719
and you know, fitness models and things like that that

896
00:42:56.800 --> 00:43:00.159
they could train. You know, They're like they had that

897
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:02.440
indie wrestlers had bad habits and it was hard to

898
00:43:02.559 --> 00:43:06.119
break those bad habits to fit in WB. This is

899
00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:08.920
great because now they're going, Hey, we do recognize that

900
00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:11.559
there is a lot of talent on the independent wrestling scene,

901
00:43:12.039 --> 00:43:15.239
and if we can help find those guys that have

902
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:20.079
a passion for this business and help them bring them along,

903
00:43:20.519 --> 00:43:22.519
that's great. I think one of the things they're realizing

904
00:43:22.639 --> 00:43:26.000
is a lot of these former college athletes don't have

905
00:43:26.159 --> 00:43:29.960
a passion for wrestling, so they don't really try. I

906
00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:31.960
almost I'm not knocking a lot of all of them,

907
00:43:32.039 --> 00:43:34.199
but there are some like they just don't have that

908
00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:37.840
passion for the business. And you're investing a lot of

909
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:40.320
time and energy and money into people that maybe don't

910
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:42.960
even like wrestling all that much. They're just doing it

911
00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:45.519
for a job. If you're finding guys who are coming

912
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:49.119
up through these schools, obviously they have a passion for

913
00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:52.920
this and if we can help help move them along

914
00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:55.920
by financially backing them or something like that, you know,

915
00:43:56.000 --> 00:43:59.159
something like that, it's good for everybody involved. It's also

916
00:43:59.199 --> 00:44:01.840
good for independent rests because it throws it out there, like, hey,

917
00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:05.760
that there actually is kind of a path to get

918
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:07.400
to where you want to go. There's so many guys

919
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:10.920
that get into wrestling and they never get seen or

920
00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:13.800
they don't know what to do, or they take they

921
00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:17.960
start following the wrong guys and guys who are super

922
00:44:18.079 --> 00:44:21.599
talented and should be on a bigger platform and just

923
00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:25.480
never get there. So I'm really happy about it. I

924
00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:28.480
am a little surprised that there's a couple of schools

925
00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:31.840
that didn't get picked, but this isn't unheard of. Like

926
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:35.320
we have Rocket City has an affiliation with Ohio Value

927
00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:38.960
Wrestling and al snow like our school is certified as

928
00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:43.840
an Ohio Valley Wrestling School, Certified Training Institution. I was

929
00:44:43.960 --> 00:44:47.079
surprised that Ohio Valley Wrestling wasn't one that got picked.

930
00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:50.519
I was surprised that the Monster Factory in New Jersey,

931
00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:53.559
where so many guys have come out of, including Damian Priest,

932
00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:59.920
wasn't selected. Jacob's Pritchard Academy in Tennessee where doctor Tom

933
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:02.239
and Glenn Jacobs run that school. So there's a few

934
00:45:02.280 --> 00:45:04.480
schools that weren't picked. It was kind of like, oh,

935
00:45:05.639 --> 00:45:08.400
Seth's got a Seth's got a school, We're gonna certify

936
00:45:08.440 --> 00:45:10.199
that one. Booker T's got a school. We're gonna certify

937
00:45:10.239 --> 00:45:13.920
that one. Knox Pro's run by Rakishi, Well his boys

938
00:45:13.960 --> 00:45:16.320
are here, get certified. It was kind of a little

939
00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:20.480
bit of nepotism in a way as to who got selected,

940
00:45:21.480 --> 00:45:24.360
so to speak. But there's a lot of great schools

941
00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:26.199
out there and I'm sure at some point they will

942
00:45:26.760 --> 00:45:30.199
be added into the mix of you know, certified w

943
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:31.360
w i D schools.

944
00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:34.920
According to WWE, they will be announcing and revealing the

945
00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:38.440
first wrestler in this ID program this weekend during Booker

946
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:42.679
T's Reality of Wrestling event. So more on that as

947
00:45:43.519 --> 00:45:45.920
we get some more information and get the first wrestler

948
00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:50.000
under the in the books as a member of the

949
00:45:50.440 --> 00:45:53.840
w i D Wrestling program now as they are now

950
00:45:53.960 --> 00:45:57.800
branching out to independent wrestling, switching gears a bit here,

951
00:45:57.920 --> 00:46:03.000
Doctor Trey some unfortunate new Last year was a massive

952
00:46:03.039 --> 00:46:06.480
year for Ria Ripley. This year has been nothing but

953
00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:11.519
injury written a year for Rio Ripley, as they ran

954
00:46:11.559 --> 00:46:14.639
an angle on NXC television last week where she was

955
00:46:14.679 --> 00:46:16.760
taken out on the parking lot of course by Live

956
00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:20.440
Morgan and Roquel Rodriguez has a broken orbital bone.

957
00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:24.800
That injury is legit. It wasn't legit from the parking

958
00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:25.239
lot problem.

959
00:46:25.239 --> 00:46:27.880
It was a way to cover it up, according to reports,

960
00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:30.199
to believe is that Rio Ripley's injury likely happened in

961
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:32.519
a headbutt spot in when she front of Live Morgan

962
00:46:33.079 --> 00:46:36.199
and Raquel Rodriguez on the October twenty first edition w RAW.

963
00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:40.039
She is out for an indefinite amount of time, Doctor Trey,

964
00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:42.599
This has just been kind of an unfortunate year for

965
00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:43.320
Ria Ripley.

966
00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:45.639
Your thoughts is one of the best is now on

967
00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:46.760
the shelf for a little bit of time.

968
00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:50.840
Yeah, it sucks for her. I mean, she's arguably the

969
00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:53.280
best female wrestler on the planet as far as like

970
00:46:53.440 --> 00:47:00.280
overall entertainer type person. It just it's reminiscent of you've

971
00:47:00.320 --> 00:47:02.639
gone through this, like being a Yankees fan, being a

972
00:47:02.679 --> 00:47:05.639
Packers fan. You get that player that has an awesome year,

973
00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:08.199
wins the MVP, and the next year they just have

974
00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:12.199
the worst luck. I dealt with that this year being

975
00:47:12.199 --> 00:47:16.039
a Cubs fan. Cody Bellinger, great season last year, this

976
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:20.000
season hurt almost the entire season. It just sucks because

977
00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:22.159
you know what their potential is. You know they're capable

978
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:25.639
of doing, but they just have fluke injuries the entire year.

979
00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:29.480
So it also has because you know, when you're hot,

980
00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:32.840
you basically burn the candle at both ends and you're

981
00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:35.079
just going one hundred miles an hour and you don't

982
00:47:35.159 --> 00:47:38.199
take as good of care as of your body getting

983
00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:41.960
rest that it needs. But you know, orbital bone, fluke injury.

984
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:45.280
The shoulder injury was a fluke injury. It's all flucus injuries.

985
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:50.000
I will say the NXT Beatdown spot looked gruesome. They

986
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:53.039
they did a good job of selling that. She got

987
00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:54.840
what I mean, the blood like that, a little bit

988
00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:57.119
of blood that just they did a great job of

989
00:47:57.199 --> 00:47:59.239
selling that angle because it had me buying into it

990
00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:02.079
for a moment. But just sucks for Ria. It sucks

991
00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:05.639
for you know, WWE, because this is your money star

992
00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:07.960
and she's gonna be out for a little while. So

993
00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:10.440
I think that's also why you saw the to me,

994
00:48:10.559 --> 00:48:14.239
the elevation of Live Morgan into that feature spot at

995
00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:15.920
Crown Jewel. Yeah.

996
00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:17.599
I immediately when you were going through there, I thought

997
00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:20.400
you were gonna say, Christian McCaffrey that too.

998
00:48:20.639 --> 00:48:20.840
Yeah.

999
00:48:20.880 --> 00:48:23.559
So I mean there's always that that's a great comparison.

1000
00:48:23.880 --> 00:48:26.039
Seeing her on the shelf is never good because she's

1001
00:48:26.079 --> 00:48:28.880
one of the best. So it is just one of

1002
00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:31.440
those years for the career of one of the best

1003
00:48:31.480 --> 00:48:34.719
in the business Ria Ripley, and hopefully she is back

1004
00:48:34.840 --> 00:48:37.639
sooner rather than later. But from what I'm gathering it

1005
00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:41.239
would I would assume that she's probably done from an

1006
00:48:41.239 --> 00:48:44.079
anwering standpoint for the rest of twenty twenty four, and

1007
00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:46.639
hopefully she'll be back for at least.

1008
00:48:46.519 --> 00:48:48.159
A Rumble in twenty twenty five.

1009
00:48:48.199 --> 00:48:50.480
Because I guess the good thing in this Doctor Trey

1010
00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:53.840
is this lived Morgan Rea Ripley feud went from something

1011
00:48:53.880 --> 00:48:56.519
that could be ending it let's say war Games or

1012
00:48:56.559 --> 00:48:59.280
maybe you know, ending at Saturday Night's main event.

1013
00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:00.880
Or early in the year.

1014
00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:04.760
I think with this injury, Live Morgan versus Ria Ripley

1015
00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:09.719
could definitely be a match that we see at WrestleMania now, especially.

1016
00:49:09.320 --> 00:49:11.960
If you have a returning Ria Ripley at the Rumble

1017
00:49:12.119 --> 00:49:14.199
and she wins the Rumble to cash in and live

1018
00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:17.880
at Wrestlemanian. So timeline wise, it works for WWE, it

1019
00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:20.719
just sucks for her and the company as a whole,

1020
00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:23.599
because I mean, she's one of the top merchandise sellers.

1021
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:26.360
She's one of the nicest people too, Like everybody I

1022
00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:28.320
know that's had an interaction with her, like at a

1023
00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:31.840
autograph signing or something that She's just so likable and

1024
00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:34.320
so much fun to be around. It just sucks on

1025
00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:37.039
that end, but yeah, you can run this angle all

1026
00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:39.119
the way to WrestleMania now if she comes back at

1027
00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:39.559
the Rumble.

1028
00:49:40.119 --> 00:49:43.000
Trying to find some silver linings here for Ria Ripley.

1029
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:45.159
And then the last thing I want to talk about

1030
00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:47.800
in this week's show, Doctor Trey Goldberg announced during his

1031
00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:51.679
appearance on the SEC Networks pregame show for college football

1032
00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:54.639
last weekend that he will be having this retirement match

1033
00:49:54.639 --> 00:49:57.000
in twenty twenty five in World Wrestling Entertainment.

1034
00:49:57.039 --> 00:50:00.360
In WE, he will be back for one match.

1035
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:02.559
It'll be the first time he'll be wrestling since twenty

1036
00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:05.159
twenty two, which was in Crown Jewel.

1037
00:50:05.519 --> 00:50:06.920
There have been a lot of rumblings. He had some

1038
00:50:06.960 --> 00:50:09.119
discussions with AW. He was mad with WWE.

1039
00:50:09.280 --> 00:50:11.000
There was a retirement tour that was supposed to be

1040
00:50:11.000 --> 00:50:15.280
going I think over in I most like Israel. At

1041
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:17.119
some point I felt like it was overseas that he

1042
00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:19.800
was going to be doing a tour. All that has

1043
00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:23.119
not come to fruition. He is ending it in w

1044
00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:26.599
WE in twenty twenty five. Everything is pointing towards a

1045
00:50:26.719 --> 00:50:28.639
match with gun Third. There are folks that are thinking

1046
00:50:28.679 --> 00:50:30.840
that this is going to be taking a place at WrestleMania.

1047
00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:34.280
I would love to see them do it in Atlanta, Georgia,

1048
00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:37.440
maybe the Georgia Dome for old time sake. He is

1049
00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:40.320
an enigma, doctor Trey. He is somebody that is often

1050
00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:43.599
debated in his time in professional wrestling. There have been

1051
00:50:43.639 --> 00:50:45.840
times that you and I have absolutely loved when he

1052
00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:47.480
is back in wrestling. There have been times that you

1053
00:50:47.519 --> 00:50:50.400
and I have been deathly afraid that he's becoming a

1054
00:50:50.440 --> 00:50:54.559
world champion during his return to professional wrestling. Your thoughts

1055
00:50:54.599 --> 00:50:56.760
here is Goldberg will be announce his retirement match for

1056
00:50:56.800 --> 00:50:57.760
twenty twenty five.

1057
00:50:58.519 --> 00:51:01.159
Yeah, I mean good for him. I mean to be

1058
00:51:01.239 --> 00:51:03.519
a wrestler and to be able to have a retirement

1059
00:51:03.599 --> 00:51:05.119
match and to be able to kind of go off

1060
00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:07.960
on your own terms. You know, it's great. And it's

1061
00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:10.519
funny because you know, I remember when he came back

1062
00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:12.480
the last time, and you saw and he came back

1063
00:51:12.559 --> 00:51:14.039
for the sake, you know, because his son had never

1064
00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:16.320
really seen him wrestle, and you got that little bit

1065
00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:20.079
a gauge Goldberg run. And now Gage is playing football

1066
00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:23.559
at Colorado for Dion Sanders. Just shows you like, like

1067
00:51:23.800 --> 00:51:26.840
how this whole thing plays out. So like, I'm happy

1068
00:51:26.840 --> 00:51:28.760
he's gonn get a shot. I would love to see him.

1069
00:51:28.840 --> 00:51:30.679
This is crazy, Jeff, You're You're not gonna even want

1070
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:32.920
to say this. I want Goldberg to win the w

1071
00:51:33.119 --> 00:51:37.719
W Championship. I want him to beat Gunther. Because he wins,

1072
00:51:38.239 --> 00:51:42.320
he retires, they vacate the title, and we get a

1073
00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:43.639
tournament to crown.

1074
00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:46.599
A new w W champion with a tournament.

1075
00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:51.440
Yes, I want to see a wrestle We have not

1076
00:51:51.639 --> 00:51:56.559
had a WrestleMania world title tournaments. Is WrestleMania three so

1077
00:51:57.360 --> 00:51:58.480
it was a three or four I think it.

1078
00:51:58.480 --> 00:52:01.239
Was three Survivor Series ninety eight.

1079
00:52:02.159 --> 00:52:05.519
Yeah, okay, so but WrestleMania season, if he has the

1080
00:52:05.639 --> 00:52:09.320
Magic Royal Rumble, wins, the title, vacates it. You have

1081
00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:13.119
this tournament WrestleMania, you have Night one, be the entire tournament.

1082
00:52:14.159 --> 00:52:17.440
There you go, and I know how much you love tournament.

1083
00:52:17.559 --> 00:52:21.079
So this that was an incomplete enticing of you getting

1084
00:52:21.079 --> 00:52:22.599
on board with Goldberg win the world title.

1085
00:52:23.039 --> 00:52:27.079
I can't see that happening.

1086
00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:29.320
I don't even know if he should defeat I mean,

1087
00:52:29.320 --> 00:52:31.840
everybody knows it's gonna be Gunther Part in any changes.

1088
00:52:32.360 --> 00:52:34.519
I don't even know if he should defeat Guntherro Doctor.

1089
00:52:34.360 --> 00:52:37.599
Trey Well, what if it comes out to real American?

1090
00:52:39.480 --> 00:52:41.840
If Goldberg comes out to Hulkogan's theme song.

1091
00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:44.480
Yes, I mean it's a real American against a guy

1092
00:52:44.519 --> 00:52:45.079
from Austria.

1093
00:52:45.199 --> 00:52:47.159
I mean, now you're getting be crazy, my friend, Now

1094
00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:50.719
you're getting crazy. I don't know. I'm happy for him.

1095
00:52:51.199 --> 00:52:53.199
I mean we're gonna be entering twenty twenty five with

1096
00:52:53.320 --> 00:52:56.079
retirement tour, not only for John Cena, but a retirement

1097
00:52:56.159 --> 00:52:56.960
match for Goldberg.

1098
00:52:57.000 --> 00:53:00.280
I mean, this is closing the book on our parts

1099
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:00.960
of our childhood.

1100
00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:03.920
Doctor Trey Well, I mean Goldberg would be the end

1101
00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:05.519
of the Attitude era for us.

1102
00:53:05.800 --> 00:53:10.159
The w CW folks just cringed when you said that.

1103
00:53:11.079 --> 00:53:13.000
I know, I know, but that it's it's what it is.

1104
00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:15.199
It's the close. I mean that he's the He would

1105
00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:18.199
be the last real I don't only say active because

1106
00:53:18.239 --> 00:53:21.239
he hasn't wrestled in three years, but he's the last

1107
00:53:21.360 --> 00:53:24.920
link to that timeline really that still can compete in

1108
00:53:24.960 --> 00:53:29.760
the ring. Everybody else is gone. So and then Seena

1109
00:53:29.840 --> 00:53:31.880
is the like Sina is kind of like one of

1110
00:53:31.880 --> 00:53:33.880
the last people from the ruthless aggression area. You got

1111
00:53:34.400 --> 00:53:37.480
Orton and Mysterio and you know Edge if you guys

1112
00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:40.159
linger around but Sina, that'd be kind of closing the

1113
00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:43.280
chapter on the the focal point of the ruthless aggression era.

1114
00:53:43.400 --> 00:53:45.599
So we're I don't know what the next what era

1115
00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:49.840
we're in to attitude, ruthless aggression. I don't know what

1116
00:53:49.920 --> 00:53:51.079
the next era was after that.

1117
00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:54.000
PG era.

1118
00:53:55.519 --> 00:53:55.800
Run with.

1119
00:53:55.880 --> 00:53:57.480
I mean, there were so many start stops. This is

1120
00:53:57.519 --> 00:53:59.199
the new era of w WI. They tried doing that

1121
00:53:59.280 --> 00:54:02.880
multiple multiple times. Yeah, No, I mean, I'm happy for him.

1122
00:54:02.880 --> 00:54:04.800
I'm happy it's going to be under the WI and brother.

1123
00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:06.320
I think that's the right way to go about and

1124
00:54:06.400 --> 00:54:08.679
I think and I'm happy that WWE is giving him

1125
00:54:08.719 --> 00:54:09.360
this opportunity.

1126
00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:12.079
So he's a bit of an enigma. I'm a fan

1127
00:54:12.119 --> 00:54:12.960
of Bill Goldberg.

1128
00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:14.840
I'm happy that he's going out the way that he

1129
00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:17.800
wants because he certainly deserves that. So more on that

1130
00:54:17.920 --> 00:54:21.320
as we get more details for twenty twenty five. With

1131
00:54:21.440 --> 00:54:23.800
that said, let's get a couple plugs and spots of

1132
00:54:23.880 --> 00:54:25.840
the way we close up shop on this week's edition

1133
00:54:25.880 --> 00:54:28.400
of SRTU. You get down on the show every Thursday,

1134
00:54:28.440 --> 00:54:31.039
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1135
00:54:31.079 --> 00:54:33.000
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1136
00:54:33.000 --> 00:54:35.559
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1138
00:54:37.800 --> 00:54:39.800
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1139
00:54:39.800 --> 00:54:42.280
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1140
00:54:42.320 --> 00:54:45.400
to follow show on X at SRTU podcast. With that

1141
00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:46.800
being said, what is going on in the one for

1142
00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:48.679
world of dot Trey Franklin this week?

1143
00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:51.599
Well, like Jeff said, you can follow me on X

1144
00:54:51.679 --> 00:54:54.000
at the Doctor Trey. You can find me on Facebook

1145
00:54:54.039 --> 00:54:57.119
and Instagram Doctor Trey Franklin. When you're on Facebook, check

1146
00:54:57.119 --> 00:55:01.039
out Rockets Championship Wrestling and and Championship Resident, the two

1147
00:55:01.079 --> 00:55:02.920
shows I work with very closely here in the state

1148
00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:06.119
of Alabama. On top of that, hey, go check out

1149
00:55:06.159 --> 00:55:08.679
your local independent wrestling show because they might become part

1150
00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:12.159
of the WWE I D family at some point. That

1151
00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:16.079
kid you see bouncing around the ring might become the

1152
00:55:16.199 --> 00:55:20.199
next prospect for WWE. And also, Jeff, I just realized

1153
00:55:20.239 --> 00:55:21.880
now I have to go home and play NCA twenty

1154
00:55:21.920 --> 00:55:24.199
four because I have to see if Gage Goldberg is

1155
00:55:24.239 --> 00:55:25.760
in the game. I forgot to look for that.

1156
00:55:27.360 --> 00:55:27.599
In there.

1157
00:55:27.679 --> 00:55:29.000
You got to go check out the depth chart, and

1158
00:55:29.000 --> 00:55:31.400
all of a sudden, Engage Goldberg becomes some sort of

1159
00:55:31.480 --> 00:55:36.159
monster on Doctor Trey's NCAA College Football twenty four would say?

1160
00:55:36.360 --> 00:55:38.480
Would that being said, thank you for downloading, thank you

1161
00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:41.079
for hanging in there with us this week. It was

1162
00:55:41.239 --> 00:55:42.559
a little bit of struggle for my voice.

1163
00:55:42.599 --> 00:55:44.440
I appreciate that. Hopefully it's not too.

1164
00:55:45.199 --> 00:55:48.800
Crappy for everybody's ear holes, but I appreciate everybody downloading

1165
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1166
00:55:53.159 --> 00:55:55.400
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1167
00:55:55.480 --> 00:55:58.480
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1168
00:55:58.519 --> 00:56:01.320
Troy Franklin, I am Jeff Pack. This has been the

1169
00:56:01.400 --> 00:56:02.119
sort of I shall