WrestleMania 41 Recap & Review | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #793 – 04/24/25

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It's still real to me, damn it!

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What up, you!

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Oh, welcome everybody!

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Welcome to this week's edition of the Sto Real Bus Show

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Ep 793 for April 24, 2025

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This is your DevanoWheel WrestleMania 41 weekend recap

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and review edition of SRTU

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I am on after show, I am Jeff Peck

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joined every single week my co-host, Louis Dr. Dre Franklin

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Dr. Dre, we survived another WrestleMania weekend, my friend

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Yeah, I am exhausted, but I will say this

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And I thought about it as I was watching WrestleMania

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You and I have been together roughly 14 years

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and never once have I decided that I had to low blow you to get my point across

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So I'm very proud of that fact Jeff, never in 15 years have I

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thrusted my forearm into your genitalia

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This was the weekend of backstabs in WWE

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I think there may have been a backstab in at least

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Two of the four, if I look at the weekend

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So for counting Friday, SmackDown, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday

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There was about two, there was three total backstabs that immediately come to mind

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Two that happened on the same day, one that happened two days later

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This was just, this was not a good weekend for friendships Dr. Dre

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No, I mean, I instantly, like, part of me always goes to, and I think that it a great job in triple ages

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All of Thanksgiving, like who he learned from

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This felt very much like a dusty road, but kind of weekend

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Like a lot of odd finishes, a lot of turns

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But I was thinking about it, like, did you ever think in your mind that at one point

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Like, John Cena, Naomi, the new day and Becky Lynch, but all the heels at the same time

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No

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Like that, those are like, I mean, new day, John Cena, I mean those are like almost damn near

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Like, Lynch pin baby faces of the time that we've been doing this show

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Naomi's always been a baby face in WWE other than when she was in team bad for a little bit

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And, you know, Becky as the man is maybe the greatest baby face run, short run

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We've seen in our S-R-T-U era, like Austin, obviously ahead of her

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But for what she did and how she kind of changed women's wrestling

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And now, after this weekend, they're all villains

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And I think, and I'm here for it, because I'm just like, this is awesome

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It's so much fun, it's so out of left field and it's just giving new wrinkles on to people that in some ways have become kind of stale

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See, this is a topic for a conversation for another time, because I always feel like when we talk about character development, professional wrestling

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We never sit here where like, man, they are really doing a great job, there's so much depth, uniqueness, creativity

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And when we're talking about a baby face, like 9.9 times out of 10, there is a new depth, uniqueness, creativity

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And you could just tell the person themselves is really sick of their teeth into their character when they turn heel

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And you could use that example for the new day, John Cena, Naomi right now

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I mean, it's like you see them turn heel and it's like, man, this is another layer, another level

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And it's so unique, so fun to watch as a fan, we felt that way when Roman Reigns finally turned heel

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It's crazy and you can make a case for it for somebody who won the main event on Saturday night in the same realm as well

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And then even someone that lost on Sunday

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A big name from wrestling any weekend was Dominic Mysterio

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I mean, he was a boring, white meat, 1980s baby face that I could not stand

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He becomes a heel and all of a sudden he is unique, cool, fun, got great depth, layers to him

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And you could see the person is sunk into his character

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And that's what, that's professional wrestling in the nutshell, the only time a heel is allowed to, or excuse me, a wrestler is allowed to really have some depth and creativity that characters when they turn heel

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Maybe, just maybe professional wrestling as a whole should consider ways of trying to do the same thing for the baby face

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Because I do think there's a way to do that

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But that's a discussion for another day, Dr. Trey

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Let's get into it because we have a lot of ground to cover

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WrestleMania 41 recap interview this past Saturday and Sunday from Allegian Stadium in Las Vegas, Nevada

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Let's get to the first match here, J. Uso defeats Gunther to win the World of the Way champion, Champion, I both had J. Uso in this one

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This was a good match, but I hated the finish

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I really wish they milked the finish and let Gunther tease not tapping out before ultimately tapping out

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My concern with J is the World Champion now is how they handle him as the "underrated baby face" champion

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Because Daniel Bryan, Rey Mysterer and Kofi Kingston just to name a few, their runs haven't been great for at least their first title run

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Ultimately, I'm extremely happy for the success that is J. Uso

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But again, going back to the finish itself, it's like, I'm all for Gunther tapping out

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I wish they kind of had a little bit of Easter eggs in there, maybe J and those last couple of promos was like, "I'm not gonna just beat you, I'm gonna make you tap out"

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And Gunther's like, "You can't make me tap out whatsoever"

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And then they get to WrestleMania, slap on the chokehold and it takes forever for Gunther to tap out

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He's reaching for the ropes, he's scratching and clawing and J's rolling back towards the center of the ring and that's when Gunther taps out

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J slapped it on, leaning backwards, Gunther tapped out immediately

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That was bizarre to me, Dr. Tray, for two guys who are a really good professional wrestlers

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Your thoughts on this one?

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Yes, I thought the match was okay and part of it is, I love J. Uso's energy, I love his personality, I love it these days

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I don't know if I like watching him wrestle

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And I'm watching this and this goes to, like, I don't know J. Uso has an original move in his moveset

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Like, this may be an old reference for some folks, he's kind of the Carlos Mencia of wrestling

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Where Carlos Mencia was known as being a joke thief

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I kind of feel like J. Uso's move thief, like, it's like, "Oh, Uso's Blash Superfly, the spear from Roman"

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Now he's like, did the power bomb and slapped on the sleeper from Gunther's?

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Like, alright, he just steals a lot of moves, but yeah, the finish was awful, like, he's never used that move in his life

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He didn't even have a hook dawn very well, like, it was a sloppy looking sleeper

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And Gunther taps out in like two seconds

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So, it was, it looked bad and then Gunther tapping out so quick

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But what happens, like, this is a guy who, like, would not tap out to Chad Gable's ankle log when they were feuding over the intercontinental title

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But he tapped out to a sleeper in two seconds

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Like, that's just, yeah, they should have milked that

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I don't know if that was just short on time, go to the finish, tap out right

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Like, it just, it felt the last 30 seconds of that match just felt completely out of place

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And it kind of taint the match for me, so to speak, but I am happy for Jay

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He's a wonderful, entertaining persona, but it just, it left a really bitter taste in my mouth to kick off WrestleMania

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Let's get to the next match here of the new day to beat the war raiders to win the World Tag Team Championship

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We both had the war raiders in this one

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Solid Tag Team match, but another finish that I was the biggest fan of

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Because it didn't feel like it built up to that moment and the finish caught me out of nowhere

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Not sure if that is crowd-related because it's so hard to feel the reactions in a football stadium show like this

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But with that said, this version of the new day has a really good chance of helping elevate the Raw Tag Team division to bigger heights

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Dr. Trey, your thoughts on this one is the new day have the World Tag Team Championship back around their waist

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Yeah, I totally blame you for this one because I was picking the new day

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And then the biggie, your biggie, Angle won me over

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So yeah, I lost this one because of you

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I thought the match was fine

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Having the war raiders in anything is different because they're so big and they're so massive

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It's kind of hard to make them feel like underdogs

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Which is what you kind of want your baby face to be at times

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It just kind of seemed like the Tag Team comp, Newtie was really good

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The finish wasn't so much that I was out of nowhere

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It felt clunky, it's really hard to get eye of our bent over your knee to hit that move

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It just didn't look great

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A bit of it looked a little cleaner and a little more impactful

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Been a much better finish

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But yeah, like I said, you don't want Eric taking that move after he just recovered from next surgery like eight months ago

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So I'm glad I love the new day's heels

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I'm really enjoying what they're doing

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I know the crowd kind of, it's been really super hot and kind of tapered off

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But I mean, these guys could easily be the modern day version of what the freebirds were

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As far as like their arrogance and cockiness and all of that stuff

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So like I'm here for it, I love it

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I'm glad to see them get a reward for doing something so out of character to switch completely

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And then take this chance on being heels

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So I think just from my own good here, I've been talking about this here and there since the whole angle back in the fall of the new day kicking Biggie out

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We had predicted a last week's show or I had predicted I thought Biggie was going to make a return here

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And a fear somehow

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I think at this point, Dr. Trey, I think we could probably come to the grips

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Unfortunately, that Biggie's in-ring career, career's professional wrestler at this point is done

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And he's just an analyst at this point

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I can't see any type of opening unless he gets cleared here in the next couple of years

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Like an edge or page or getting a Bryant situation where he returns to the ring

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Yeah, I still thought that angle could have played off if they had just at least hit the music

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It had him walk out and the new day get distracted

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And that could have been a good close but hey, they may be saving that for whoever they're planning on taking the belts off the new day

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And then we had to move that tag team up and send them up

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The war writers are kind of established so maybe they're just trying to save it for a special occasion to help launch the next great baby face tag team

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Next match here is Jade Cargo, the feeding Naomi

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We both had Jade Cargo on this one

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It was a pretty good match, one of the best singles matches I've seen from Jade Cargo since she debuted in AW several years ago

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The no-look electric tear into a power bomb was in the same move by Jade

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I love the change for Naomi's new character and I hope it continues to grow because I think she could have a big 2025 despite the rest of many of the loss

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I said on last week's podcast I feel like Naomi could have a live Morgan-esque year in 2025 just on her heel turn in the character development that she has had

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This was a great match, Dr. Trab, I really enjoyed this one from Jade and Naomi

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Yeah, it was better than I expected and maybe that's where it comes in

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Where's my expectations were a little low, it exceeded them

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Did Jane get a haircut or is that just she just went with her net?

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I don't know if she had, I don't know, the short hair threw me off when you see the long hair on the background

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But yeah, Jade still got somewhere, there's still a couple little spots in there where her footwork was off, her spacing was off

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But outside of that solid, that electric share drop into a power bomb, I thought she killed Naomi

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I thought Naomi was hurt, so I haven't seen anybody say that she is, so that's good

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And yeah, like my only worry about Naomi is where she lands on the SmackDown card because you still have Charlotte

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Does Naomi slide up as the number two heel on that brand? And then does anybody else move over from RAW coming out from WrestleMania?

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So if she's still at number two spot, she's right there and I mean she's still got Nia as well, so that's my only worry is where does she slot in?

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And can't she make the most of any opportunity she gets?

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Next match here is Jacob Fatu defeating LA Knight to win the United States Championship of Dr. Shriyan on Jacob Fatu and this one

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Jacob Fatu may be the best near fall guy in all of WWE because he seems to kick out just at the right time which makes the match build with excitement like in this one

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I really enjoyed this match Dr. Trey, I thought they had a pretty good chemistry

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Both these guys in a year, two years, even three years, I could see them in a main event spot at WrestleMania

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Vying for a World Championship, I enjoy this one as Jacob Fatu is our new United States Champion

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Yeah, I really enjoyed it and I love the ascension of Jacob Fatu and then just how organic the crowd, it felt weird watching the crowd try to choose between these two guys

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Because they all love LA Knight but Fatu is such an anomaly, you can't help but cheer and marvel at what he does

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This was LA Knight's best match in a long time as well, I mean those shins came matches weren't great, this was a quite worse and great

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But this one really kind of showcased what he could do

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I wouldn't be surprised to see LA Knight being one of the guys that pops up the challenge just seeing it at some point during this eul run as well because technically scene is now a SmackDown guy

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I believe so, I push him on the same brand

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Yeah, so he could be a guy that think it have him work seeing it as he gets a victory to head to the next big match

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I think it could fill or main event guy which I think is where LA Knight needs to kind of shine is offer mid card fill or main event guy

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Next, oh well hold on, I guess I don't know when we're going to address this because it's going to come out through this next match

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But let's get into it here so before we look at El Grande, Americana and Ray Phoenix, the news on Saturday, we had not heard about this at all

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There was no rumblings of this, the only thing I saw was during annexi standard deliver, WrestleVotes tweeted out

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WWE is going to announce a annexi world's collide with AAA Mexico for June I think in Los Angeles, he had tweeted out

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And then like an hour later, I was not watching the pre show because I was watching stand deliver live, I was a little bit behind on that

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And then took a little break then got into WrestleMania because as we all know, WrestleMania weekend is a grind and you need to tell your family especially during a holiday weekend

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Love you by which doesn't really cut it now that I'm a 10 month old

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Nonetheless, I see online WWE acquires AAA, I'm like wait, what? No way

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And I watch the clip of Michael Cole making the announcement, I see AAA to the desk, I see the AAA

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They're family, the front office all standing there and then I see all the luchadors, I see Andrade, I see the LW, I see Ray Mysterio, Ray Phoenix, Penta

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Look at how dope fantasma, Stephanie Valkor, they're all standing there and then I see in the middle, like is that Fakingo?

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Look, I'm like holy crap it is and they make the announcement that WWE now owns AAA Mexico

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I was blown away by that because well known promotion in the United States or excuse me in the world

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And they've had some pretty decent run here in the United States, most notably in AW

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It wasn't that long ago that Kenny Omega was the AAA, mega champion, their world title

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The AAA tag team titles were defended on AW television multiple times

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Actually, the double or nothing, the first double or nothing, you have AAA Mexico championships on the line, the lucha brothers against the young box, I believe in a ladder match

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I'm like this is a big deal and I was just blown away by that, I was blown away by seeing Fakingo on WWE television because I think the last time I saw him was in AW television

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Before he was injured and then I know he returned, got injured during the TNA taping

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And we've talked about him at length, I mentioned that I thought the Kenny Omega Vickingo match on AW Dynamite a couple years ago was a breakout performance of him

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Remind him of like the first time that I watched for a Mysterio, I was like this is a massive get for them

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But looking at the onset here, Dr. Trey, WWE has made as acquired a promotion, this is the first time that they, I think they've acquired a promotion in 15-20 years

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So the last ones I could think of were obviously WCW, ECW's tape library, AWA's tape library

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But the last time actually acquiring a promotion that was legitimately running, AAA Mexico

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Of all of it that point had kind of folded, there's not many other promotions that come to mind

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At that point with the ball, the tape library then kind of offset it as a promotion below NXT to elevate people to the NXT level

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Huge news, this is massive, we really don't have any idea outside of the world's collide how this is gonna pan out

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There's been some rumbly right now that they may re-grain the promotion to NXT, Mexico which I think is a mistake

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Keep it as AAA, but nonetheless your thoughts here on WWE acquiring AAA Mexico

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Yeah, I was shocked, I told you off air like I had Rockets City going on Saturday

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I tried to avoid, I was on social media up until about bell time

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And on the drive to Rockets City I see that and at first, Jeff, I'm not gonna lie

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I thought they said WWE bought AAA, I was thinking baseball team

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I was like, why are we buying, what the hell, like Depp and then I had to read into it and then I watched the press or the conference

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I'm like, oh my god, it's just like you, I'm like, okay, well here's all those stars from it

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What, by Kingo? For a second, not gonna lie, I thought they had brought in the mini giant Gonzalez

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And he was in the background, it's the cloak that cloak throws me off

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But it's, you know, it's hit, I think a lot of people have undersold what AAA means to the history of Lujo Libre in Mexico

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What it means to the lineage of what WCW and now WWE have done with the Lujo or Divisions

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Like it's huge and I also thought it was very smart because, you know, you go back, I think it's two, three years ago

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They had talked, you know, once NXT UK was up and going, they were like, oh, we're gonna do it, NXT Japan and NXT, you know, Mexico

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Like this is a way of doing it without having to put in the infrastructure, like the infrastructure is already there

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Now if you just rebranded as NXT Triple A, like it's already there and you're just putting the WWE stamp on it

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It's kind of like taking what's right there, kind of fitting it into the WWE bubble and you're up and going

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And this is a way that, you know, for 25 years they've been trying to find the next ray of mysterious

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Now you have a manufacturing plant for your Ray Mysterios, how do you increase content?

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We need to expand the population base, now you can deep dive more into Hispanic culture and steroids

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Like it's a brilliant move for WWE in the long run

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Oh, I 100% agree, I think this is great

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It just continues the growth there, so the partnerships, acquisitions, everyone look at it, WWE TNA, WWE Pro Wrestling Noah

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And now having Triple A, Mexico under their umbrella is massive

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There's obviously some things that will be playing out here like how are they absorbing all the contracts because of the current A Triple A mega champion is Alberto Del Rio

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Alberto El Patrón, who is, I don't know if he is wanted by WWE

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He says that there is no animosity anymore and everything is great. Based on the stories about him, I'm not necessarily sure I would want to watch him on my television again.

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Based on the things that have been reported about him, actually just scratch that, no I don't want to see him on my television again.

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Based on who he is, so that will be interesting to see how this plays out

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But the only Triple A star that we saw so far is Vakingo, which makes sense because that guy is amazing

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And he had a presence during the next match here which is El Grande Americano defeating Ray Phoenix

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We did not predict this match on Friday SmackDown, Ray Mysterio got injured

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And I guess according to Meltzer, he tore his groin

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And I was watching the match live on SmackDown, I actually went back on the DVR to go back and like see where did this happen

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Because at some point you don't see him on the apron and I kind of lost track at that point because of the way the match was moving

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I was like, oh Ray's not in this match, the matter of fact a doctor is down in the ring outside looking at him

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And I go back and Julius Creed, I think there was like a pinotemp, Julius Creed grabs Ray Mysterio's leg and pulls him out to the ring

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Like you see with the refs all the time and he falls on the ground and that is the last time he moves in the match

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So I'm wondering if like Julius Creed like literally ripped his groin pulling him out of the ring

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If that's the case Julius, you're strong SOB but can't be doing that to the goat man, Ray Mysterio is amazing

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It was a shame that he was not there, they also announced on the pre show he was not medically cleared, Ray Phoenix is filling in

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And I was happy with that because it was an opportunity for Ray Phoenix to get his WrestleMania debut like two, three weeks after literally debut in a WWE

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So a Grande Americano gets the victory here, I was disappointed to see Ray Phoenix take his first singles loss in WWE this early into his run

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Especially at WrestleMania but it seems that there is a longer term playing without Grande Americano and the Lucius doors of WWE and now possibly AAA as well

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If that is the case then this result makes it ten cents

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But that match itself was impressive and it's amazing, the moves that Chad Gable has, the backwards 450, 560 on Ray Phoenix, the landing back first was impressive

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And the loaded match bit kind of grown on me, so we did get to see Vikingo take aim at a Grande Americano before the match

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And also tend to Ray Phoenix post match as well so there's obviously some big plans there for Vikingo

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Your thoughts on this one Dr. Trey as a Grande Americano gets the victory

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Yeah, early on my thoughts were Ray Phoenix is getting a little bigger, he just like the bodies, like the bodies of Elvab, okay

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Chad Gable versus Ray Phoenix, those bodies look like pro wrestler versus Indie guy

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So Ray's got to get a little bit better WWE look to him so to speak

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Move set wise, that match was fun, like that was crazy, really really entertaining

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I was going through going, why are you putting Ray Phoenix's spot? I don't want to see him lose his first match in WrestleMania but

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We've already seen Gable and Dragon League with the rest of the other, they had to throw somebody new in there so it made sense

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That 540 moves that was so crazy, I have been, and being done by Chad Gable, not being done by Brickishay, not being done by Osprey

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Chad Gable, seeing out the 540 like that, crazy, really fun match

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I'm curious now, this Gable winning and them going on with this Elvgrande Americano persona

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Makes me wonder how long the negotiations have been going on between WWE and Triple A

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Because now the look, the entrance, all of that makes sense if you're sending Gable as Elvgrande into Triple A to help those guys establish and get them over

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Like that makes a ton of sense

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And the loaded mask makes a ton of sense because I grew up on Ted D.B. O.C. Blackjack Mulligan with loaded gloves

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So seeing a loaded mask, and the fact that they sold it on that kick, that was brilliant, I hadn't seen that done before so I love how that was laid out

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There was a major announcement over the weekend that WWE is going to be airing the show on Netflix called

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Is it WWE unwritten or something like that? Did you see that at the show where they take you back into the writers room? Dr. Trey?

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Yeah, because I saw them showing the Blackboard

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Yeah, so you saw that graphic that everybody is noticing right now?

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Yep

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So the big thing there is we don't know when that screenshot was taken or when they were talking about it but it says Rainy Stereo versus Chad Gables, a rumored WrestleMania match

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So it's definitely unreal, not unwritten, that's a song by Natasha Beddonfield, that we all know and love

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Nonetheless, so that's been on the board for some time and they've been building this up for a couple of months so who knows how long the discussions were there?

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How Chad Gable is not an intercontinental champion or a United States champion or a former of those titles is insane to me in a travesty at this point

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The guy needs to be recognized as a champion and either one of those divisions soon because I'm a huge Chad Gable fan

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So a lot to go about here. Again, I'm not the biggest fan of the El Grande Americano gimmick but I will say it is starting to grow on me

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So El Grande Americano defeats Ray Phoenix at WrestleMania 41

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The next match here, Dr. Trey was Tiffany Stratton defeating Charlotte Flair to retain the WWE Women's Championship

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I at Tiffany U had Charlotte. This is a physical heart hitting matchable Tiffany and Charlotte

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I liked how the announcers played up that this match helped elevate Tiffany to the next level by showing her toughness against Charlotte. We not seen that side to Tiffany in her career so it was refreshing to see it in a fun match

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This is a fun one, Dr. Trey is Tiffany Stratton defeating Charlotte Flair

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This kind of falls in with the J. Cargill now. I had low expectations for this match and it exceeded it

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It was pretty good for what I was expecting so not hating on it

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These Charlotte on big stages and I think I talked about it last week or a week before that tends to feel like she bullies her opponents during the match

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As she tried it in this one, Tiffany held her own so I'll give her a ton of credits

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I am kind of curious to see what you do with Charlotte from here on out because now that Tiffany beat her

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Does she get a quick little rematch and get the belt or is Charlotte cool being the B+ character on a brand?

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It's going to be interesting to see what they do with Charlotte. This is the ascension of Tiffany. This is the start of a new era

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It is going to be Tiffy time for a while. They are putting all their eggs in her basket right now

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But yeah, a much better match than I expected and a good ozettivity for Charlotte to show some toughness and not getting pushed around by Charlotte in the match

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And then finally the main event here at the Saturday, WrestleMania Night 1, WrestleMania Saturday

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It was Seth Freakin' Rollins defeating Roman Reigns and CM Punk

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In the main event, I had Seth Freakin' Rollins, Dr. Trey and CM Punk, awesome main event match

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Really good in-ring stuff which is what you would expect from these three

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And the turn from Paul Heyman on both CM Punk and Roman Reigns to a line with Seth Rons was a perfect WrestleMania moment that fans will remember forever

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It was a great way to cap off WrestleMania Saturday, Dr. Trey

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Love this match, Seth Freakin' Rollins defeats Roman Reigns and CM Punk

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Yeah, there are a lot of different layers of this match that I love

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One of the things I picked Punk when we did the show

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And then heading in, I noticed something that every time they would mention the top stars in WWE this weekend

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They're like, "Oh, you got this guy, this guy."

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And it was always CM Punk and Roman Reigns and they never mentioned Seth Roll

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And I was like, "Damn it, Jeff's right sets winning this match."

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I kind of felt it just because of the slight and the disrespect that, you know, it's intentional

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But yeah, it's like, damn, but I'm also as a lifelong Paul Heyman fan

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I liked the Ysman character but I really like evil diabolical Paul Heyman way more

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This is like Paul Heyman dangerous alliance type stuff

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Like he's on the McAfee show and he was on another show

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Oh was he, certainly on the McAfee show?

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Yeah, he was roasting everybody

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This is the closest we've gotten to an ECW Paul Heyman and quite some time

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Like I love it, I am arguably the biggest Paul Heyman fan in the world

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Like I'm so excited to see where this goes, how it plays out

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It's weird because a guy like Seth doesn't need a mouthpiece

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But for some of the other guys, if this group that we saw a little bit of Monday grows

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Hey, what's a great guy to be the mouthpiece for everybody else

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So I'm really excited to see where this goes

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Plus I like heal Seth Rollins better than Babyface Seth Rollins

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Like this just played in the cards

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Plus, punk's baby stays babyface, Roman stays babyface

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So you kind of match some stuff up there pretty well

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So I'm excited to see what they do with this

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Well obviously get to the stuff about the Roth WrestleMania later on in the show here

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But the execution of the turn, Stock to Try, was it executed to perfection in your standpoint?

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Yeah, and it made sense and that's the thing

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And Heyman talked about it a little bit later on about punk being a bad friend

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By putting in, making him choose between him and Roman

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And then Roman just disrespecting him and everything else

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Like it made a ton of sense

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Heyman's first low blow felt a little rushed

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I don't know if he had, it was like a little bit that second one to Roman though

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And then with the twist in trying to pull the wrist out

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Like I love that

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That was such, like it's a little small stuff he does that makes it so good

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So yeah, like I thought it was really, really well done

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So there you go, Knight one in the books here

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Let's get to Knight two

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Eosky defeats Bianca Belair and re-writly to retain the women's world

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Championship both the Dr. Trey and I at Eoskyne this one

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This is an awesome opener to kick off Knight two of WrestleMania

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Really good in-ring work in storytelling from all three women

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The finish was really cool with the over the moonsaw on the roll-up pin attempt

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Part of me wondered if Eos was going to break up the pin

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But then when I saw Bianca roll up Rhea

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I was like, there is no way they're going to go for this

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Because I've never seen someone do a moonsaw while two people are in a small package

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And they went for it

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I could see Bianca getting involved in the car again on the only stuff

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That we saw teased on Smackdown moving forward while Eoskyne Rhea could be feuding for a bit as well

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So the women's division here all three of these women where they go from here is very intriguing

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Especially after what we saw Raw after WrestleMania

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This was a great match Dr. Trey, there are a lot of people that are giving this match its flowers

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Your thoughts on the triple threat

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Yeah, I don't know about you but like so I know we'll get into ratings and all that stuff here a little bit

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But like so Knight one I liked it

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But when this show kicked off Knight two and I saw this match

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I'm like, oh, it's going to be on par

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This was a great match especially in a triple threat setting which we all know could be funky and weird at times

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But it had everything you wanted

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It had the physicality, it had the story lines, had some great moves, told a good story

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And it got eo elevated into that Bianca Rhea category

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Which is where we've been trying to get her to for a while

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Like she's there now, like she's a main event or regardless of what show or brand she's on from here on out

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So just a fantastic way to kick off WrestleMania Knight two

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Yeah, I have actually a very funny way of looking at WrestleMania right now

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So we'll talk about that in a little bit

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And how I look at the entire both nights

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So next match here is Drew McAter, I had feeding Damian Prius in a Sinciti street fight

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I had Damian Prius, Dr. Trey and Drew McAter, this is a great physical match between McAter and Prius

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Not only spots for both guys to take in this one and Big Drew gets the victory

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I wonder if this is a stepping stone for McAter, to have a big 2025

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Because I feel like he is due to be a major focal player in WWE again

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Dr. Trey, your thoughts on the Sinciti street fight

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I love this match

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Like I was like, this is why I'm like, man, it's two or two

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And I was like, I don't know how they're going to have the triple threat match

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I was right there with it, like the physicality, the violence

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Never seen a claim or done like that with the chair in the corner

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Like all of that rolled into one, I was like, this is fantastic

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I am curious now as to where you, like you said, where you go both characters

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Because in theory, John Cena is a villain, he's on SmackDown

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What do you do with Drew?

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And if that's the case, like, and then where do you go Damian Prius from here?

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This is a guy who left a year ago left WrestleMania's World Champion

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The storyline of the Judgment Day, super great

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Since he came to SmackDown, the stuff that Drew's been good

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But he just hasn't felt like a main event player, so to speak

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So I'm so interested to see where they go with both these guys

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heading into the 2025 year of the WWE calendar

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I could not agree more, I can not wait to see where things go for these guys

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On Friday's SmackDown, should they both be a focal point

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Or at least, talked about or have a mention, vignette, whatever in this one

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Next match is Dominic Mysterio, defeating Braun Breaker, Finn Balor, and Penta to win the WWE Intercontinental Championship

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We both had dirty dom in this one

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This was an incredible fade of forward match that had a good flow with little to no downtime throughout

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The crowd was red hot in this one and their babyface support for Dominic Mysterio

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One of the most hated heels in recent WWE history was really surprising and made for a nice moment

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I think the feeling has been amongst the fans that it was Dom's time to take the next step forward

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And that's what they did by putting the IC title on him

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Really, really, really fun match, Dr. Trey

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Your thoughts on the fatal for-a-way

390
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Yeah, I thought this was a great way to get everybody to shine

391
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And I think Finn Balor has ascended into that Chris Jericho round

392
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That we used to talk about, like just being the ultimate soldier

393
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I mean, for a guy that was your first universal champion to now putting over Dom and WrestleMania

394
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He's put so many guys over WrestleMania the last five years, six years

395
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He's just that great soldier to have in your tool belt

396
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And then you know you can bring him up to main event level whenever you want to

397
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Braun look good, Penta look good

398
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And it was weird, like the reaction Dom got on one hand I thought was correct, I was like

399
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It's- I don't know if people are cheering because they actually like him or if there is that like you deserve a cheer

400
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Because, you know, like we talked about it with the Miz

401
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Like you're so good as a heel we like you now

402
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And I think that's where Dom is getting into where like we love to hate you

403
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So you winning, we're happy for that but we're gonna come back and treat you like crap

404
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:09,000
You know coming out of it but like I'm just super happy

405
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I mean this like you said earlier like this is a guy five years ago you and I could stay in the C on TV

406
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And now he's one of the greatest things or now he's one of the best things to watch on TV every week so

407
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I'm really happy for the kid

408
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,000
Now I've actually seen a couple of podcast interviews with him in the last week

409
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If anybody lists it, so we're all recap the rest of any recap stuff

410
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,000
His stuff on both those pods were really good

411
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Seems like a very funny guy and likable nonetheless

412
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So I said just a couple minutes ago I was like I have a theory on WrestleMania

413
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And I was thinking this as I was watching the show

414
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So if you go back to night one I was not the biggest fan of J.U. So gone through because of the finish

415
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I was at the biggest fan of New Day and the war Raiders because of the finish

416
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But if you start with Jade Cargo Naomi then go to Jacoba 2 and LA night

417
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,000
El Grande Americano and Ray Phoenix Tiffany Stratton and Charlotte Flair

418
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:06,000
Seth Frickin Rolens, Roman Reigns, CM Punk, then go into night two, EO Sky, Bianca, Rhea, Drew and Damien

419
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And then the fatal four of the way that we just discussed

420
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I was thinking to my head I'm like this is like a really good momentum swing right now

421
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There's not a lot of criticisms, very fun, solid, entertaining, WrestleMania

422
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We talked about in the last week's podcast we've talked about that there's been a trifecta of 38, 39, 40

423
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I'm like well maybe 41 can be joining it

424
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And then we kind of got to the second half of night two Dr. Try

425
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:35,000
And I'm gonna be I'm gonna preface this by saying I did not dislike hate WrestleMania at all

426
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We'll go through the ratings review formally here in just a little bit

427
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But what I will say is these matches that are coming up did offer criticisms of WWE and the way that they did the booking

428
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I think ultimately here I defended and I am for what took place

429
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But I can understand the difference of opinion here

430
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So I think this is gonna be an interesting part of the podcast now for both of us

431
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Because we'll get to the next match here of Randy Orton feeding TNA World Champion Joe Hendry

432
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,000
In his open challenge match we did not predict this match

433
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It was a really cool surprise to see TNA World Champion Joe Hendry show up to WrestleMania to take on Randy Orton's open challenge match

434
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It's wild to think we live in a day and age where the TNA World Champion had a match at WWE WrestleMania

435
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:28,000
When we first started this podcast 15 years ago I would have never thought that day would ever happen

436
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:35,000
When we first started this show like I just said it was like unthinkable and here we are and it's in front of my eyes on the television

437
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:40,000
With that said this was a quick match that I would imagine people would say the TNA World Champion was buried

438
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Which I can understand that point

439
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,000
But take this into account again

440
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The TNA World Champion was showcased at the biggest wrestling show of the year

441
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:57,000
It was a free 10 minute infomercial putting eyes on the TNA product at the biggest stage of the mall

442
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:03,000
I am fine with how it went down despite wanting to see the match go a little bit longer than what we got

443
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,000
I think this was a success for Joe Hendry

444
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,000
I think this was a success for TNA

445
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:13,000
Randy Orton is a wrestling legend and he had a WrestleMania match against Randy Orton

446
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:17,000
I can totally understand everybody like WWE just buried TNA

447
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:21,000
I don't think Joe Hendry sees it that way because he did a lot of interviews where he was very excited

448
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:25,000
He had a great follow up two nights later on NXT on the CW Network

449
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:30,000
With Oba Family and Trick Williams on the ring and it looks like there's gonna be more of Joe Hendry on WWE Television

450
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,000
I think WWE for season being a star

451
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:40,000
And again TNA got like a free 10 minute infomercial on millions of homes on Peacock

452
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Across the globe internationally

453
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:48,000
62,000 plus people lost their mind saying his song were very excited

454
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,000
People who don't know anything about Joe Hendry or TNA are checking it out

455
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:57,000
I thought this was a success WWE for WWE and TNA Dr. Trey

456
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,000
You may think this is differently than me but I thought this was a positive all around

457
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,000
Your thoughts on the Randy Orton Joe Hendry match?

458
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,000
So this is what like you and I were talking about here

459
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,000
This is one of the matches that Ashley got spoiled for me for a little bit

460
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:15,000
Because I was like I heard that he showed a WrestleMania

461
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,000
And then everything I'm reading is like and then he got squashed and buried

462
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,000
Then I watched the actual match

463
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:27,000
And I was like okay he had a really big entrance

464
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,000
This wasn't like you know those commercial break entrances

465
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,000
He got the full WrestleMania entrance

466
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,000
He got to be in the ring with a 14 time world champion

467
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:45,000
He got in offense and a lot of others they'll he hit all of his signature moves except for his finisher

468
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,000
He got to do his pose

469
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:53,000
He got to do what like you said he also came out with the TNA World Championship

470
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,000
So TNA is getting recognized

471
00:41:55,000 --> 00:42:01,000
And then Randy caught him with an RKO while he was doing his pose in the showboding

472
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,000
I loved it

473
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:08,000
Like that's what in real life if you're making your WrestleMania debut

474
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,000
And you're in front of the largest crowd

475
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:19,000
And I'm saying six times the largest crowd you've probably ever been in front of

476
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,000
Right?

477
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:25,000
And you get caught up in the lights in the music in the arena

478
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:30,000
Like you're not you're gonna get lost in the moment and a guy hits a it's his finishing move on you

479
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:42,000
Like that's not a squash that's not a burial he got hit with the most popular finishing move in the history of pro wrestling at WrestleMania

480
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,000
How'd that guy get buried like who else would you want in that spot?

481
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:50,000
We're gonna like hey you're kind of compressed for time

482
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,000
You know and then here's the thing I saw people going well he had them with two

483
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:58,000
He also as he said there pat him on the chest hit him with the second RKO

484
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,000
And then he did Joe Hendry's pose

485
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:07,000
Like that's kind of their way of giving respect to that guy

486
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:15,000
So anybody who says that Joe Hendry got buried or squashed a WrestleMania knows absolutely nothing about the wrestling business

487
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:20,000
Not to mention I see Joe Hendry the every one and say he talked to Triple H and Triple H said

488
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:24,000
Hey you did a great job take it in this is your first of many to come

489
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:31,000
So that means WWE has high expectations from as well hey I we all love Joe Hendry we all love Randy Orton

490
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:37,000
What the hell did we want in that situation you got two of your favorite guys in a WrestleMania match and we got an RKO

491
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:46,000
Yeah, I was finally yeah I saw people burying it and I'm glad to see we're on the same page here because I was like I didn't see it that way

492
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:58,000
Yeah, what I've liked it to gone a little longer absolutely but it took two two RKOs and Randy Orton was giving them love and it was just a really good moment

493
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:02,000
I mean they said that was one of their top choices it was the top choice that two they reached out to

494
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:07,000
They didn't reach out to anyone else on the roster they reached out to freaking Joe Hendry because it was going to be a great moment

495
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:15,000
And it elevated him and elevated TNA in my opinion so I'm fine with it I mean TNA was a focal point on WrestleMania

496
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:20,000
You may never see this again folks it's insane

497
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:25,000
Next match here is Logan Paul defeating AJ Styles I had AJ Styles to trade Logan Paul

498
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:31,000
The match was fine Logan showed he could hang with AJ Styles the wrestling fan in me is disappointed seeing an outsider

499
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:38,000
Even one who is respected and puts his all into the craft like Logan Paul defeating one of the generations best in AJ Styles at WrestleMania

500
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:48,000
The story here is in what is what's most important as AJ Styles and Karing Cross will continue on post WrestleMania which has me excited for both guys while Logan's path isn't all that clear right now

501
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:52,000
Maybe a feud with World of War Champion Jey Uso is on the horizon

502
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:59,000
Again the rest of the fandom in me is not really thrilled with the result but I understand it Dr. Trey

503
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:11,000
Yeah the wrestling fan I think my expectations this is kind of counter to what we talk about with Charlotte and Jade

504
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:19,000
My expectations were actually kind of high for this match because the athleticism both guys not saying it was a bad match

505
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:25,000
I actually didn't even hate to finish storyline wise it made sense it is just one of the things that kind of sticks in you where you're like

506
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:30,000
Logan Paul is 3 and 0 at WrestleMania 3 and 0 or 4 and 0 4 and 0

507
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,000
No he lost a staff

508
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:39,000
Oh that's right I forgot what the set match was got three wins in four years at WrestleMania

509
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:45,000
I can't I part of me wants to hate on that because he is the quote unquote outsider

510
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:49,000
But look I'll take Logan Paul over my TV

511
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:54,000
Six set like seven days a week twice on Sundays more than the guy we saw in the main event

512
00:45:54,000 --> 00:46:00,000
I knew you were going there I knew you were going there I can't blame you I knew you I knew you were going there

513
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:06,000
Yeah but now the match was fun by the way did you see the the the carrying cross interview

514
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:10,000
Oh yeah I got my viral I heard it I saw it and I heard it

515
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:17,000
It was awesome that's that's yeah that's the carrying cross that we all love and want to see our TVs even more

516
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:24,000
He seems like a genuinely good dude by the way I guess he's put out some stuff out on social media that he's working on documentary

517
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:30,000
And he was just like walk around the Vegas strip because he's from the area and people are coming up to him and being like

518
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:34,000
I really love your character lately and he had just some really authentic and genuine comments about that

519
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:42,000
How his character was kind of floundering and he was most known for his NXT stuff and it seems like people are really enjoying this like devil's advocate

520
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:49,000
Puppeteer that he's been playing as a lady which I cannot disagree with I think I think carrying crosses a guy that's going to have a big 2025

521
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:58,000
And I really hope he does because he's been phenomenal so he got to love there and I want to buy his book

522
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:05,000
He just put a book out I didn't want to buy the book yeah he seems like a really genuinely nice not guy so props him

523
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:12,000
Next match here is Libervaak Karrion Becky Lynch defeating Liv Morgan or Al-Qaul Rodriguez to win the WWE Women's Tag Team

524
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,000
Chipy Chipy did not predict this match because we thought Bailey was going to be in it

525
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:21,000
It was a solid tag team match very happy to see Becky Lynch back in the square circle I just wish it didn't come at the expense of Bailey

526
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:28,000
As I was invested in interesting stuff that she and Lyra were doing as of late it will be interesting to see how that plays out over time

527
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:36,000
As we just had a mystery attack on a tag team partner with Jayden Bianca back in November nonetheless we did get to see Becky get a revenge on Liv

528
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:43,000
Would have liked to see some some Easter eggs of the last of the months were live really wrote it home that she retired Becky Lynch

529
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:48,000
You know mentioned it in promo stuff like that and so that the return was was a big deal

530
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:56,000
So people would think that Becky was showing up at the raw debut on Netflix, Rollerumble, Limitation Chamber, etc. to really build up the expense

531
00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:04,000
Suspensive Becky's return to WWE so I would like to see these Easter eggs where people thought that she was coming back to all the big events only for her to return to WrestleMania

532
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:11,000
Sidebar to this Dr. Trey I saw Chris Van Vellette clip from an interview we had with Bailey that's out right now

533
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:17,000
And Bailey makes mention of the disappointment of her being off the WrestleMania card talking about her creative

534
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:24,000
And she dives in a little bit she's like well by the time this comes out people are going to be and she like stops herself and Chris Van Vellette like presses

535
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:32,000
Like what is this about she's she kind of moves on so we know what obviously she was talking about there were people reportedly backstage there were upset about this

536
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:41,000
There were stuff on Twitter calling Becky Lynch Becky Hogan from WrestleMania 9 when the Hulkster took the championship from not only Brett and Yokozuna

537
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,000
But walked away at WrestleMania 9 with the title

538
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:52,000
Yeah, there's some stuff to this and we'll cover from raw after WrestleMania but Lyra Vellkarian Becky Lynch for now are your WWE women's side team champions

539
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,000
Your thoughts?

540
00:48:54,000 --> 00:49:01,000
Yeah, I was actually I was hoping that Lyra got so good and then if Bailey had brought Becky in his attack partner

541
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:05,000
I think that would have popped the crowd even bigger but I

542
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,000
I

543
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,000
Like honestly I

544
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:13,000
Could not I was happy to see Becky I love Becky Lynch. I don't want anything

545
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:21,000
I could not take this match seriously because of Lyra Vellkary because the feathers kept flying off her head

546
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:31,000
During the entire match and all I could picture was every time she was in the ring with Rukhel Rodriguez was Peter Griffin fighting the giant chicken from family guy

547
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:37,000
I just kept seeing feathers everywhere they kept throwing me off and I kept laughing the entire time

548
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:42,000
I'm like why don't people think about this when they come up with their ring gear like these feathers are gonna be everywhere

549
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:49,000
But yeah, I didn't really care for the match all that much I was happy to see Becky

550
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:59,000
But yeah, to me it just was like why are you taking Bailey off the show like why are you taking your hall of fame level women's talent off the show

551
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:09,000
I get wanting to showcase your younger talent but you have look between Lyra Vellkary and Chelsea Green I'd rather see Chelsea Green between Lyra Vellkary and Bailey

552
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:14,000
I'd rather see Bailey like there is no depth to the Lyra character

553
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:20,000
There is she's a good in-ring worker but I don't know enough about her to be invested

554
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:26,000
Meanwhile if you had done the attack on her now I'm invested into who beat up Lyra

555
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:33,000
Bailey comes out and then Becky comes out you get Becky and Bailey as a tag team against live in Rukhel

556
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,000
That screams wrestle mania to me

557
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:40,000
So I just don't like the decision making the process because it just didn't make a lot of sense

558
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:48,000
And then you can always come back to who took out Lyra instead of who took out Bailey and then now you get a different version of Lyra

559
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,000
And you get more depth to that character

560
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:57,000
More on this match and everything that took place here momentarily as we will recap raw after wrestle mania

561
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:03,000
Let's get to the main event of night 2 dr. Tray the main event of wrestle mania that closes out the show

562
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:10,000
John Cena defeats Cody Rhodes to win the Undisputed WWE Championship we both had John Cena in this one

563
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:14,000
John Cena is now the record holder as a 17 time world champion

564
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:19,000
John Cena is the Undisputed WWE Champion in 2025 which is wild to say

565
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:27,000
This is where things are going to get interesting for this discussion because I know this is a very sensitive subject in months wrestling fans

566
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:35,000
I found it to be great storytelling and this one is the finish where Cody refused to hit Cena with the title and embraced the dark side only for Cena to kick him below the belt

567
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:42,000
And use the title was a really nice foreshadowing finish as I think we will see this play out again in late 2025

568
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:49,000
I am really digging this version of John Cena on the way he's carrying himself and the black background that reads John Cena and White font for his entrance

569
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:53,000
It is a really cool way for him to go out his professional wrestling career

570
00:51:53,000 --> 00:52:01,000
Additionally or lastly I was shocked the rock did not make any appearance during this match or at all during wrestle mania 41

571
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:10,000
That was a pretty massive miss the Travis Scott interference I thought was a massive miss I think that was just your entertainment tonight moment for people to see

572
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:16,000
But the match itself and the way that it played out I enjoyed

573
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:25,000
I know that there are a lot of people out there that did not like this match the people are saying that Cody came back carried the company for two years to go out like that

574
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:31,000
I could not disagree more doctor I think this is as I put last week I felt like this WrestleMania was a table setter

575
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:37,000
I feel like this matches a table setter for something big that will take place later this year and wants it fully plays out

576
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:44,000
I'm going to be very interested in a trick to hear your thoughts on this one as John Cena is a 17 time world champion

577
00:52:44,000 --> 00:53:00,000
So entrance wise the scene entrance is fantastic and I love it because this whole run up doing the old school doing the regular scene of background the colors the also loyalty respect

578
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:08,000
I thought didn't fit this fits just John Cena came out said he was going to ruin pro wrestling for fans

579
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:22,000
Honestly I was upset Monday night when he got fireworks I want him basically almost like that Dolph Ziggler character we saw about eight years ago where there was like no theme music just nothing like minimalist John Cena

580
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:28,000
You know but I love it Cody's mass dude it did the Iron Man thing

581
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:37,000
Yeah, that was cool that was cool that was kind of cool I was like man this is Tony Stark man this is pretty cool so the match itself

582
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It was I'm watching it with my wife. I'm like this is late 80s early 90s kind of throwback wrestling like headlocks, scissor locks, punches, kicks, very old school wrestling match that told the story

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Like Cena stayed on top of them the entire time like that's kind of what you want your heel that you're strong heel to do and let your baby face make the comeback

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Yeah, I only knock on this match. I'm sorry my only knock on this match is Travis Scott like how is 135 pound man going to cost like it just it did I

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But I guess may is I don't really know Travis Scott is I heard his theme song all weekend long but I don't know who this guy is

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He does not look like a physical threat. He's not in bad buddies Lee has in-ring performing we've already seen he can't throw a punch he's got like I mean I just I don't get it but you know it for an extraction is fine that and if I'm not mistaken if you want to go into deep storytelling

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Wasn't it Cody Rose telling Kevin Owens he messed up at in Paris because he didn't have the killer instinct to go for the kill shot and now Cody couldn't go for the kill shot against Cena

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Ironic good long term storytelling that in that moment Cody couldn't pull the trigger just like KO couldn't do wish cause KO to go crazy and turn heel so

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Some star wars shit right I mean that's what I'm this is to me I think that whole moment dr. Trey of the you know hit me with the title and he doesn't do it throws it down below the belt kick and see it takes advantage one two three I think ultimately they place itself out where Cody does in fact do that embraces the dark side now what

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That means if he turns heel at that point I don't know maybe it's just him getting even and people cheer and seen his honest way but I don't understand why people are

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Like losing their minds over this match unall honesty yeah my like is it my only issue the matches Travis Scott which is on that like yeah I would give it like I would give that

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That's like a 4.5 star because I love that match Travis Scott made it like four to quarter stars so yeah it brought it because I'm like and then the fact that like you're

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Just like son turned down to his and Johnson is just standing there like yeah hey that's Travis Scott I know him yeah and like Cody's in the background like selling and I'm like

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Dude can you pick up the pace a little bit because you're making Cody sell look like not believable like he shouldn't down this long for

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Fair and then the rock stuff I mean the rock stuff I mean you were big on that this entire time like what was the point of this rock was on Maca

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Feet show on was it today was it Wednesday as we record this Wednesday night for the Thursday download I think it was on it today Wednesday

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And he said that the whole point of this was Tuesday the soul selling the soul angle at elimination chamber was because ticket sales

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Or slow they asked him to do it so they did it he wanted Cody to turn heel and

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Basically it wasn't supposed to lead to anywhere to be knew he's gonna be filling Moana film film me Moana or the final stuff of Moana the live action stuff and want to be available

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Which the rocks create I mean literally I love the rock all like he is amazing all time or Mount Rushmore for me all nine yards

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His involvement in creative and getting the water's money is a pain in the ass and this may be another instance of that doctor try

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I love the rock I don't like Dwayne Johnson is that make sense like I love I love the rock on screen I love the rock character I love the final boss

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I don't like when he goes on these shows and starts giving and I know we're gonna get into that with that WDB on real show kind of giving away some secrets but I'm like

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Dude don't go out on a show that you know wrestling die hard wrestling friends are gonna watch you say yeah that whole cell your soul shit was bullshit basically and just designed to get people interested

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Like like that we had no plan that just that irritates me yeah that irritates me it's like well great because now yeah because now me and Jeff just spend

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Three hours of our lives over the course of the last three months deep diving into what all that meant and it really just meant nothing for now

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Now he also did say they could always circle back to this at some point but just like the night after WrestleMania last year

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Yeah it's like just you know like just or the net the Netflix debut when they were when he was drinking with Cody and said I'm wish you love Cody

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You know like just then for a full week's later he hates them and yeah you know and then tell your mom I said hi

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Yeah sometimes like this is why so in a lot of ways Jeff if you remember when AEW launch and I know people are gonna hate me for this and this you and I was in there and go we really don't like when wrestlers are running the storylines

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Because it gets a lot of whack this is the wrestler running the storyline so I have to criticize Dwayne Johnson for the same thing I used to criticize Kenny Omega in the young months more

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Yeah which is rightfully so which is absolutely rightfully so the only time we've seen a wrestler and recent memory book really good creative has been triple age Paul LeVack

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Alright let's give ratings and match of the night here for night one and I too I'll start with Saturday Dr. Tray my event rating

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I gave it a 4.4 out of 5 I really enjoy the show my match the night Rollins Reigns punk what's a you

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I gave it a 4.2 and Rollins Reigns and punk was my match the night and then the next night here WrestleMania Sunday I gave it a 4.5 out of 5 I thought night 2 overall was better than night one

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And then my match the night was my match the night was sorry about that my match the night was Mysterio breaker Penta and Baller

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I gave it a 4.4 my match the night was the women's triple threat match

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Alright very nice EO Reep Yonka yeah that was that was an amazing match I I felt like those matches I felt like the fatal four way

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If I'm ranking my favorite matches from Mania Weekend I would go one the fatal four way of the inner continental title two the women's triple threat and then three Rollins Reigns punk

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So mine so I am probably biased because Paul Heyman Mark I went Rollins Reigns punk women's triple threat match then the fatal four way and that drew Damien matches really fun

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Yeah, what's a good one yeah absolutely so there you go recap a review of WrestleMania 41 feel free to chime in at SRT podcast or on Facebook Facebook dot com slash the real touch show

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Let's get to a quick raw after WrestleMania recap and a quick annexi stand deliver recap interview as well so some points here from raw after WrestleMania and Dr. Shreya my apologies so just for full disclosure here Dr. Trace Celeste finished this episode

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I self-definished the WWE Hall of Fame because we're both married men with children and it is very hard to get caught up on all this content

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So we're off to WrestleMania recap, Randewort lays out WWE Champion John Cena in the year 2025 and now I would expect this to be our backlash main event in St. Louis Becky Lynch attacks Lyra Valkyrie after dropping the tag team titles less than 24 hours after they won them

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Rusev returns to WWE and destroys the alpha academy

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St. Louis Valkyrie challenges EO Skyne as a great match until Roxanne present Julia in a fear and really ripply makes the save

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Sam is in returns to celebrate with Jay Uso people thought he was gonna be back seven J and that one Jimmy Uso also comes down JD McDownd and returns to help Dominic but she

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had a good show defeat Penta Gunther attacks Pat McAfee and Michael Cole and then Braun Breaker aligns with Seth Rollins and Paul Haiman layout CM Punk and Roman Reigns to close out the show I thought this was the best episode of Monday Night Raw this year Dr. Trace slightly better than the raw on Netflix debut your thoughts on the Raw after WrestleMania recap

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So I obviously haven't washed everything yet but was was well aware of everything that happened no just from everything I've seen everything I've read fantastic show start to finish other than do I really want to see Gunther and Pat McAfee fight I don't know about that one yet

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We do guys eat somebody step up to be the next challenger for Jay Uso and then I was a little bum that Rusev came back as a heal I kind of wanted to see him join the alpha academy and kind of give them a little bit of teach and let them teach him better English or whatever like it just play that stuff

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I just don't know if I want Rusev as a heal because when he left Rusev Day was still super over so we could have brought him back as a baby face because we have a lot of guy equal to an heal lately we need a baby face maybe they're just going hey we got Penta we got some other folks are coming in their baby faces we don't need him as a baby face but I just like Rusev when he's happy

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this was the mirror version of Rusev by the way because we did not get a Rusev match got to start off his theme song as well so happy all around that that was is it your so I know you haven't seen the whole entire episode yet but you're fully aware from what you've seen so far I would love to hear your thoughts eventually here if it was better than the raw Netflix debut because I thought it was one of the best episodes of raw I've seen in a while I think for share amount of content yes

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the raw after Netflix was kind of like an extravaganza type thing where there wasn't a whole lot of content on that show like we had the rocks you know weird promo we had all the crazy cool camera angles all the glitz and glamour where this felt more like a traditional raw after wrestle and one of the better ones we've had in the last couple years because it was the last year and you're before was got off

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yeah the problem was yeah so this one was much better than someone who had the last couple of years so yeah like to me this is the best Ross is a game of the Netflix and then let's run through nc stand deliver recap review of this past that are from the team all more rain and loss Vegas i'm just going to go through all the results of the doctor trail would sit out to you will give out event ratings match the night so tain impact the gg dull and defeat met a four fatal influence on rock sand press court jade and a fatal four way tight team elimination match becoming a more contentors for the day

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when elimination match becoming a more contentors for the w one side team championship then it was into live in rock rocks rakell on Tuesday's edition my next day

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ricky saints defeats Ethan page retain the nxd North American championship Hank Walker and take ledger defeat Nathan Frazier and axiom to win the nxd tag team championship so ruka defeat Zarya clonid Jordan is he

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Dame low levi s and the hailing a ladder match to win the vacant nxd women's North American championship dark state defeats the d'Angelo family that was a fun one and a really like with the d'Angelo family stuff is going especially on Tuesday's edition of nxt 70

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rock court defeats Julia Jordan Grayson jada parker and a fatal four way match to retain the nxd women's championship and then oba family defeats trick Williams and javion Evans and a triple threat match to retain the nxd championship

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dr. tre before we give a rent ratings here match the night any thoughts on nxd stand deliver

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uh... hankin tanker fund a watch i like those guys and you're right like you and i talk a little bit about the whole public enemy versus heavy machine they're kind of a blend of those two

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they're really fun to watch and looking for seeing what they do with fraxiom are they going moving them up we've already seen Nathan Frazier on smack down recently are they getting the call up to

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street profits tag titles or moving the raw and challenge the new day at some point

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uh...

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i wonder at times if solruka is the next version of

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a thing i wouldn't she had her run in w_w_ like is she over because her finishers so cool or she actually over

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like the santa chevron's fantastic

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and what was the thing is name in w_w_ i remember

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and bermoo was kind of that same both great finisher was it the finisher got her over the kind of feel like i love solruka i think she's gonna be a big star

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but i i wonder if the move is getting ahead of the character so to speak

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the women's for a match i thought it was good i still feel like i know you're high on jada i still feel like she's just a notch below the other three

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but i'm not quite there yet and i think that match to me kind of showed it a little bit but still really good match

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and tear got can i just watch over femmy throw wessley and jayby on ebbens i just want to i want to i want to like a five-minute clip of him just tossing those guys

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because that size differential and how those guys bump is crazy on that stuff but fun triple threat match to close out the show as well

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uh... sainz in page yeah like we got the tony thumbled chan in there i thought that was a really good match as well

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uh... event rating match the night i gave stand delivery three point nine out of five my match the night was hankin tank versus fraxiom

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and dare i say from all restaurant in weakened out of trade i think this is a top five match in the rest of the week and overall

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yeah i i gave it a four point oh it was a lot of that was on the strength of fraxiom versus hankin tank

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like that match was really fun and i would probably put it

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one two i mean that's i picked four earlier

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cina rose i would probably put it five or six on my rest of any weekend

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so that was your match the night right then you're gonna be like no that's not all that's held

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okay fair enough yeah so that was the right one match the night and then the pay-per-view prediction records from the weekend

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uh... stand deliver i we both went five in two

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uh... russomania saturday i went five and one doctor trade one three and three

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russomania sunday i went three and two doctor trade one five and oh so i'm sitting at 24 and eight doctor trades at 23 and nine

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coming out of russomania weekend and then lastly doctor trade let's take a look at some of the Monday morning headlines following russomania 41 that we predicted on last week show

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i had yeet of mania joins yesel mania and kofi mania massive ups that have gone through to win the world of a championship

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that took place logon paul proves he can hang with a j styles i would say that took place

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tiffie time de thrones the queen that took place um... john cnc captures number seventeen things to help from the rock

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that did not take place and then one that i am proud of

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ham and turns on punk and rains joins forces of ralens that that did take place

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um... any of your money morning headlines that uh... you were happy that came to fruition my friend

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no i i i i'm just happy that my headline was doctor trade with five and oh on night two

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like i'm like i'm super proud that i went under did you say five and oh yes yes

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yeah so i'm proud of five and oh that's the first time i've gone like undefeated on a show in like two years

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so i had one good night of predictions that's my big headline

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but yet the ham in turn and then the subsequent formation of ralens and breaker monday night do i am so excited

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to see where this goes because this could be

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how you get brown breaker into the main event is the one breaker or ralens turns on each other at some point and ham and goes with breaker

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can i can i just point out funny moment here just based on your common of saying this is the first time that you've gone undefeated in a couple years

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this is gonna tell you the minute you become married and then when you have a kid your brain becomes fried

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because doctor trade you in for no elimination chamber

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well shit yeah i don't remember anything about that show other than the ending of the show i did it for the rock

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yeah i literally forgot everything else about it and you know i still cannot get the image of paul ham and with his fist

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between romans and roomin rangers legs and him twisting back and forth trying to pull that's been in my head for like two days now

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so i don't know what that means i don't know what that means either so i'm a little bit close up shop on this week's edition of srt

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franklin this week well like jep said you can follow me on x at the dr trade you can find me on facebook and instagram

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bunch of big names coming in sinbo deal being action so if you're in the area check them check us out if you're not in the area be sure to get their facebook page so you can see the videos

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and i'm still telling you Jeff it is the greatest outfit i have ever worn in wrestling that i will have for wrestling con

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i am so excited about it it's a little bit of a much to bill marie and kingpin i'll put it that way

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i can't wait to see this so stay tuned for all those great things as always support everything that supports s r t u

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have you been listening to us the entire time thank you for being there and supporting us and we hope that we've been giving you some great

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wrestle mania coverage a big announcement for next week's show so both dr trade and i were going to special show mode

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we've got a week off to recuperate from everything that we saw from wrestle mania over the last couple of months

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and we're going to be bringing you our ultimate wrestle mania card all of the dream matches we would ever want to see

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this includes wrestlers that we have seen that performed wwe and we will be bringing that to you all next week's edition of s r t u

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so enjoy your weekend enjoy the rest of your week thank you for downloading the podcast enjoy next week's special show

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and until next week for dr trade for ekina i am jeff pack this has been the still with us show

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you some mind i'll be focus on the future never all right now what i'm stepping back and but you the beacock brown

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i'm the one that introduced you to the right now

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oh my god that's baby baby

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well i ride trying to fight you in the night coming light and it's me

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Aah!