Wrestling’s Big Weekend: Goldberg’s Farewell, Evolution’s Message & AEW’s Swagger Back? | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #804 – 07/10/2

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It's still real to me, damn it!

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What up, eee-oh!

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Welcome, everybody!

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Welcome to this week's Anastas Soreal, the show

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Episode number 804 for July 10, 2025

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Welcome to your NXT Great American Bash

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WWE Saturday Night's Made of Met, AWOL in Texas

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WWE Evolution, 3-0 in prediction's edition

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of SRTU

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I am one after show, I am Jeff Peck

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joined every single week like us the only one and only Dr. Trey Franklin

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Dr. Trey, why can't we get weekends like this in the winter time when we can't leave our houses my friend?

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Yeah, I forgot about a couple of shows you just mentioned

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and I was like, "Oh crap, that's a lot!"

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This is almost like a WrestleMania-esque weekend with just the sheer amount and volume of PLEs, pay-per-views, premium events,

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whatever you want to call it, that's a lot!

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I mean, that's like when you go to the buffet in your pleasantly surprised that there's just way more food than you expected.

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Yeah, it's a lot of wrestling.

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This is, it's a tough weekend because it's like so nice outside.

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Like, you know, I don't necessarily want to be cooped up at 3pm in the afternoon watching either AWOL in Texas or NXT Great American Bash

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and then like taking a little bit of a break and then watching Saturday Night's Made of Met on NBC for a couple hours, waking up and then doing evolution

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or whatever show I missed in the afternoon and then watching Evolution at night.

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Like, no, it's the middle of summer.

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Like, I get the counter-programming and I'm a big wrestling fan, but give this to me in January and February when I got nothing going on.

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Maybe even March, December, absolutely, November, heck, I kind of, sometimes it's been nice out.

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But like, the middle of July, like this is tough for some folks, Dr. Troy.

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See, I'm okay with the early show because I don't know, I haven't checked the weather channel in a couple days.

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I know surprisingly because weather pods are going to be a huge hit on our Patreon page.

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But typically on a Saturday at 3 o'clock here in Alabama, it's about 96 with about 85% humidity.

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So I don't mind the 3 o'clock one that's usually why, like, at night I'll go out and do stuff because as we record the show right now, it's 6.30

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since I'm still 88 degrees outside.

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So I wait until the sun goes down and then I can get stuff done in the summertime.

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So I don't mind the early start times because, like I say, not fair.

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I can just grab a pizza and a beer and sit in the AC and watch it.

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But it's once we get into like 6, 7, 8 o'clock at night where I'm like, "Man, I really could go watch Superman this weekend instead."

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Yeah, it's, I don't know, you and I are our die hard wrestling fans.

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We love professional wrestling for 800 and four straight weeks.

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We have sat down here. We've done a wrestling podcast every Saturday or Thursday, depending on the time frame of SRT over the years.

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And recap that week's World of Professional Wrestling prior to all this.

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You and I became friends online through EA Gameshow, which was wrestling trivia.

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And that's, I've known you since 2008 at this point, I think it is.

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And that's, like, it's wrestling wrestling is a big part of our lives.

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But it reaches a point where, this is a big weekend, I'm excited for this weekend.

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But there is part of me that looks at I'm like, "Man, this is, this is a lot. Like, do we really need WWE to be doing three separate types of programming to really get wrestling fans not to watch AW All in Texas?"

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Like, I mean, it's, it's, it's a little bit like, remember the Alamo.

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Like, AEW's got the Alamo and WWE is like the Mexican forces surrounding it.

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You know, it's, it's like, we're going to hit you from every single side. And I'm looking at it going, I don't know if any of these to me are like, must see.

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I, like, I have to watch this event because the last Saturday Night's Main event was kind of a let down.

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Evolution might be pretty good. Great amount of match might be pretty good. But is anything on those cards?

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Like, oh my God, I have to see this match where All in kind of has a couple more matches that may be a little more interested in than anything WWE is putting out.

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But, man, if, if AEW is saying All in is their biggest show, WWE is counter programming the hell out of it this weekend.

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It's funny that you say that, Dr. Trey, because that was a great segue into the first thing I want to ask you.

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So there's NXT, the great American bash NBC Saturday Night's Main event for WWE, AW All in Texas, WWE Evolution.

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I think you've answered this question, but I'll ask it anyway, which show are you most excited for and why?

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I'm going to take all in. I mean, the, the Swarovoss, Breaks match, I'm interested in hanging that in Moxley, Texas deathmatch is going to be fun.

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Hearts in the kids, we're going to be patriarchy. Yeah, I mean, Jess Pete, and like I'm still not a huge, I've never been a big-speed ball, Bailey Fan.

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Really? He's not, he looks like Scott, like a miniature Scott Steiner with no shoes. Like, and I mean like 85.

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Like 87 Scott Steiner, it's the Mullet.

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Okay, yeah, I didn't know where you were going there. It's like really. Yeah, to me he looks like an 80s movie star.

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Yeah, like he should be in like a kickbox or sequel with John Claude Bandit.

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Which I think is the whole point of his game, I can't remember.

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Yeah, which in what's again, it's, but the speedball does, I mean, it's, it's fine.

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I like Kevin Knight, but like I'm not fully invested in Jess Pete, but the patriarchy and the hearts in the kid, that is going to be fun and interesting,

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because this could be a splintering of the patriarchy. You might get cope and edge back together to take on lashily and shelter at some point like that.

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That might be fun.

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So I just, I think just from the intrigue factor of it all, Mariah May, I was going to Tony Storm, I was going to say Mercedes Monet and Mariah May, Tony Storm, I got my M's mixed up.

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But Tony Storm, Mercedes Monet will be interesting. Like, I think all in has more matches. I'm actually interested in than any of the M's.

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Any of the other WWE counter program?

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Yeah, I'm with you. And then I become an as a surprise for most listeners of our show because we really have completely detoured off of, of AW programming for quite some time.

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And it's quite simply, it's like, it's, we'll talk about it here later on the show. It's definitely an improving product, but when you look at the viewership numbers, as a podcast, it's like,

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it really makes sense for us to be covering a product right now that as extensively as we used to, if their viewership numbers are below 600,000 and below 400,000 for collision.

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And we've even kind of taken a step back on the NXT front, like we're not going to go match by match at all during this podcast.

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We're going to talk about each one of these PLEs and pay per views that are taking place this weekend and give them some just to for a preview.

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But like the old school days of doing preview match by matches is just not something we're going to do. And to me, I've been watching AW programming and I've been behind on it, admittedly for some time now.

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But the shows that I'm watching, they're really enjoyable. They're really coming into their own and they're finding their identity and what I like.

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And this is like kind of, it's almost like a PR stunt because I think the reason why everybody loved AW from like 2019, say, 2022, was they were a counter programming to WWE.

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They were anti-WWE, they took shots at WWE and that's kind of what the masses wanted. And it's time went on, even during that 2019 to 2022 stretch, and we talked about plenty of times on this podcast.

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It's like, okay, I don't, at some point AW just needs to focus on themselves. I don't want to hear any more stuff about Tony Khan taking shots at WWE and press conferences, interviews, whatever, just like move on.

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And I think that kind of shot them themselves in the foot with the way that AW handled things. Like people were kind of tired of it.

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And I think it was reflective in the product because the creative was not good. This has been the first time in some time where I felt like they put on really good consecutive months of programming.

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And it's exciting. And that's where they need to be. Like they were trying to bait Tony Khan in an interview about WWE's counter programming.

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And it's like we just need to focus on what we're doing. And that's what the messaging should be really. I mean, that's, at this point, it's 2025. This isn't when they launched, you know, almost six years as, or six years as a promotion.

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Like let's just forget all about all that and just worry about ourselves. And that's the type of stuff that I love about AW.

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And it doesn't take shots at WWE North, would they anymore they don't take shots at AW. New Japan, whatever none of the other promotions do that. And just being your little silo, do your little thing. And if you have a good show, the people will calm if they like professional wrestling.

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So I like that's what AW has done as of late long term is it going to continue that way one can ever tell because AW has basically been built on taking shots at WWE.

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But to come back around for everything that's going on with this big weekend of professional wrestling, there are matches I want to see in each one of the shows. But there is no other card that I'm excited for the most matches that then AW all in Texas right now, Dr. Try.

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Yeah, and you probably can point like they really kind of have course corrected it's a little bit I mean, I don't know if anybody in any of your listeners or show, but it's one thing that we've kind of been harping off the last couple of years is like you're a big boy now, like you're out of diapers.

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Like when you're when you're young, you got a chirp, you got to make noise, you got to give people take notice of you, but you're a big boy now, like you've been around six years, like focus on what you do well, find your strengths, maximize those eliminate your weaknesses.

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And I think like if you're looking at totality of a card, yeah, all in's got way more stuff that I'm interested in.

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Like look, I mean seeing Blake Monroe make her in ring debut at evolution.

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Okay, that's kind of cool. Team with Jordan Grace. Did you ever think you would see Mariah May and Jordan Grace teaming up? I never did.

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Think about that a year ago.

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Yeah, like it's crazy in a lot of ways. That's the AEW former AEW world champion and the TNA knockouts champion teaming up in a WWE ring.

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Like that's mind blowing in a lot of ways. Like there's things on Saturday's main event that I'm interested in, but if I watch it Monday, what I'm traveling or watch it anytime before between now and next Thursday,

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I don't feel like I'm missing out like the FOMO is not there for any of the WWE shows. I do have a little bit of fear of missing out when it comes to AEW's thing because, hey, this Hangman Moxley thing,

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are they going to pull the trigger with Hangman getting the belt or is this the return of Darby is finally set up Darby in Mox again?

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Like what's going on with, you know, like even MJF and Mark Brisco, I'm interested in because that's been a weird little rivalry that came out of nowhere.

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You know, like it's been to the tag team title match, the Jackson, Swarov, Osprey thing. Like there is some interesting, I mean, are we getting O'Cotta and Omega as well?

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And that's almost kind of like been an afterthought in a lot of this stuff because of how well the other stuff's been done.

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Like there's some really interesting stuff on that show that just has me more interested top to bottom than anything.

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You could almost take all three WWE shows, combine them up and I still wouldn't be all that. It made into one big show. I don't think I'd still be as interested in it as I am all in.

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Yeah, I don't feel like it's a half-assed attempt by WWE this weekend, but it's not fully focused. It's a bit choppy because again, there's some matches on each one of these shows that WWE is presenting this weekend.

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They each one of them, I'm like, okay, if this was one combined card, it'd be cool, but I don't think it's comparable to the build that everything that's been going on with AW right now.

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So yeah, it's doing counter-programming for the sake of doing counter-programming and it's like, that doesn't look too good.

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Unless you're giving me some really good reasons why I should be tuning into the Great American Bash over all in Texas on Saturday and why I should be watching Saturday's Main Event or Evolution instead of watching a replay.

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Of AW All in Texas if I don't watch it live. So I don't think WWE's accomplished that. Why AW has had a really good build for their card has been because I think you and I both thought to try like good, clean, booking as professional wrestling fans stuff that makes sense.

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Stuff that's clean and it's not like, wait, how did we get here and that's what AW is doing right now and that because for the times that we've complemented WWE, that's really what they've been doing and the times that we've complemented AW, that's what they've been doing, good, clean, booking.

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So out of all the shows, both Dr. Trey and I in agreement here, AW All in Texas is the one that we are most excited for this weekend, this big weekend of professional wrestling.

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Looking at NXT Great American Bash on Saturday afternoon, Dr. Trey, it's a card full of solid matches over versus Yoshi ki Jordan and Blake which you talked about versus J.C. and Fallon.

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So Rook versus Izzy Dame which is kind of like a sneaky like this is a match that I'm really looking forward to pick because I really like both those women.

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I think it would be your wrestlers this year's go on. Ethan Page and Ricky Saints, I'm looking forward to that one. That should be a good one.

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Jasper Troy and Javion Evans is an interesting matchup because I'm not really fully sold on Jasper Troy and I haven't watched all of LFG season one yet.

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So I'm intrigued to see how that match plays out. But out of all those Dr. Trey, is it weird that the highlight for the night might be the Slam diversity contract signing between Trick, Henry and Mike Santana for me?

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Yeah, I think you're just banking on what you know. You know all three of those guys are good. All three of those guys are entertaining. It's going to be a brawl at the end of it. That's what contracts signings always go now.

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If they do, if they pull the ultimate serve here and all three guys walk out and go, I'm going to win sign their name and walk out.

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Okay, but I think we're just kind of banking on the known like as much as we like.

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And you said I can't pronounce his name. Yoshi key. Yoshi key. Okay, so as long as we know, we know those guys can go, but I'm not really in as I don't find Yoshi key as an actual real threat.

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You know, the tag match with Jordan Grace and Blake Monroe against Fallon and JC Jane.

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It's interesting, but there's no title on the line. So it doesn't really matter the grand scheme of things. I'm kind of excited for Jasper Troy and JV on Evans it because I love like the extreme contrast.

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Like it reminds me of when Wesley and Oba Femi were feuding because you can do some crazy stuff with the athleticism of one guy and the power of the other guy.

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But you know, and then Ethan paid your ricky saying I you know, like that's going to be a good match because those guys are truly professional wrestlers and they just don't really have bad matches against each other.

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But once again, nothing on there just really stands out as, oh my god, I have to see this match. It's just a solid card with very little, there's no peaks in valleys in this one.

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It's just going to be a pretty solid show from start to finish based on what they have.

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Yeah, and annexes been a good product. It's just it feels more like a TV special than something that you would call a PLE or pay-per-view for me for.

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It's Halloween having without the Halloween or the hat.

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Yep, well, that's exactly I mean great American bash when they brought it back.

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It was a two week, you know, two week episode event when they were rebooted annexed on the USA network and you know, they haven't done it on the CW era, but that's what it was.

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And that's what this feels like. It just feels like this is just kind of a TV special on a Saturday afternoon, quite frankly, which speaking a TV specials Dr. Trey on Saturday night during Saturday nights, main event.

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We have a big match up here with Goldberg taking on the World of the Way champion Gunther.

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Will Goldberg leave Atlanta as World of the Way champion? Or is this the final chapter of his Hall of Fame career?

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I still think that he's winning but not leaving with the belt. I'm still leaning into Seth doing the cash in.

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Oh really? Wow, okay.

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Yeah.

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I just I mean like for me like like in the old days,

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the wrestlers have retirement matches, leave the boots in the ring, walk out, they're put the other guy over.

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But recently after staying and undertaker, like we see it now, like we want the guy to go out standing tall and victorious.

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So I can see Goldberg getting the win.

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Standing tall, fireers go off, everybody's celebrating. He walks up the ramp.

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There's a spear from Braun Breaker, a splash from Bronson Reed.

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They throw him back in the ring and Seth stomps him. Guess it wants you to set leaves Atlanta with the type.

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Wow, I don't have that. I think Goldberg doesn't leave Atlanta with the World of the Way championship.

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And I think we get a rematch at MetLife. I think they want to give him a good moment in Atlanta and then give him a swan song a couple weeks later,

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which is like old school WWE booking, which I don't love at all.

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But I'm just getting the vibe because there is no clear cut contender for the World of the Way championship right now,

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which may actually play into your theory that Seth Rollins could walk out and cash in and walk out as champion.

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Yeah, I mean, and like, the other thing is like we've, we've read the reports, like Goldberg's been injured in training a couple times.

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Like even though Summer Slams still, what, like six weeks out?

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You don't think he's serving us?

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No, I don't think he can move like a, like he's 20 years, 20 years ago.

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I just don't think he can do two matches within five weeks.

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Yeah.

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Like that's my thing. I just don't see him having, especially if this match goes more than five minutes, he is not wrestling a Summer Slam.

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Like if it's a, if it's that first Goldberg Lesnar match, where it ends in 47 seconds, okay, yeah, he might be able to come back as Summer Slam for one more.

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But if it's over five minutes and he's taking some chops from Gunther, he's not making it back to Summer Slams.

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So that's kind of where I'm hedging my bets. I'm like, I, I think he wants to have one good, like one decent match, you know, leave on a high note and then, you know, pass the, pass the title over to Seth.

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And then you can do Seth and Sammy at Summer Slam. You can do Seth and Jay.

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You can kind of, like, there are some baby phases. You can do Seth and Pence at Summer Slam. I, people love that too.

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I mean, there's three challengers lined up for Seth at Summer Slam if you make this move now and then you got five weeks to build it.

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I could see Gunther beating Goldberg clean up because there's a lot of reports out there right now that are saying that, um, Tony Lee's considering Gunther turning big face.

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Like naturally turning a baby face and let's say he beats Goldberg shakes his hand, Goldberg raises in, Cosmopro Gunther shows respect Seth comes out and cash is in on him.

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I said it makes me an event like that, that could be something. And I would bet more on a cash and Dr. Trey if this show was going head to head with all in.

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Cause I think they would want to steal some headlines there.

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Yeah, but I don't think they're like, the problem is like it's not if they, if they make the move, like even if they made the move while all in is going out.

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Are people going to, are people going to drop watching all in that they spent 60 bucks for?

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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, they just they did not counter this map. They did not do this match to counter AW all in.

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So like, yeah, they might, they might get some headlines, but if if, if, if Darby shows up after climbing Mount Everest to take down John Mox, that's still going to get eight of these headlines.

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I think if they pull the trigger and Seth cash is in, they are going to grab some headlines and it's going to make serious main event kind of must see television again.

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You know, I think after the last one, people aren't just aren't that into it.

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As we sit here and we talk about this, I think if they are looking to get mainstream media, Dr. Trey Goldberg leaves his champion.

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That's going to get headlines nationally.

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Yeah, so much so and people may not like this, the die hearts will not like to hear this, but hopefully you agree with me on this one.

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Like I think Goldberg walking out is well, they weigh champion on NBC Saturday nights main event.

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We're garnered more national headlines than AW selling out the Texas Rangers baseball stadium in all in.

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I think you're right on that aspect like Goldberg is like, I mean, that's the 50 year old, 60 year olds third.

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I mean, everybody from like 35 to 55 knows who Goldberg is.

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My only concern was like, I'm just trying to get the belt off of him before summer.

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Now the flip side maybe he shows up on raw to basically say he's relinquishing the title, but then Seth catches in before he can do it.

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And then the belt goes to Seth.

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I like this thinking of ways he's not wrestling again.

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No, I mean, to me, like if you tell me this is your last match and they've even kind of mentioned it like what happens if you win the title?

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I guess maybe I'll guess one more like it's that's why I don't like when people book these stipulations like this because then you book yourself into it.

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Like how do you get out of this with Goldberg saying this is his last match?

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So are they like booking this as his retirement match?

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I don't feel like it's like all out.

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This is Goldberg's last match per se.

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You know what I mean?

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Like I really feel like if this was his retirement match, it's not a world championship match.

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The promoting it is a world champ his retirement match like a lot more this this just there feels like there's alternative motives here.

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We could sit here next week ago.

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Got the one in five minutes all that talk we had for 15 minutes was pointless, but I just feel like that there is alternative motives to have in Saturday Night's main event over this weekend.

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Goldberg being in this match retirement match and air quotes world title in line.

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I just feel like something is going on to catch headlines.

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I mean maybe we're trying to get to see in Goldberg.

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Oh dear God.

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If you thought raising Goldberg a rest of any 36 was bad.

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No, I just look at it like you know it's not so much WWE's it's basically Goldberg has been saying for a while.

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He had one more match.

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He was into one more match and that was it. We had all this talk for like a year and a half about how there was supposed to be a match and then it got postponed and then they weren't taking his calls for a little while and then now suddenly he's got a match in Atlanta.

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It's not WWE saying it's retirement match is basically Goldberg has been building up for a year and a half that he had one more match left in him.

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And that's why I'm like I just don't see him having a match in Atlanta and then coming back within five weeks to have another match.

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At Summerslam there has to be something else between Saris made event in Summerslam to where Goldberg either loses the title.

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Goldberg won't have the title by the time I get the Summerslam.

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So let's talk about it here.

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Let's wrap this up.

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Who walks out of Atlanta as a World of Wave Champion on Saturday night?

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I'm still leaning to Seth Rollins caching in.

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I'm going to go with Goldberg.

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So you're going Rollins caching.

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Do you think Goldberg makes it to Summerslam as champion?

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I do.

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I think they want to give him like 80,000 people cheering for him.

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I do.

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Well I mean you could put 55 in the Georgia dome.

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They could have moved into the Georgia dome and give it like you know Nitro S vibes.

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That would be something.

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That would be something.

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Real quick before we get off Saturday it's made event.

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I just want to give like a shout out that I think LA Night in Seth Rollins are having the type of feud right now that reminds me of

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how I fell in love as a wrestling fan with the Drew McAttire C-A-Punk stuff.

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It's like a few that I did not see coming nor would ever think about but I'm watching.

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I'm like man this has some old school attitude air vibes the way they closed raw of this past Monday.

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Like take that out of an episode of 97 98.

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I mean that's what it felt like to me.

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I mean it's been pretty cool and you're seeing LA Night hanging with one of the best and I'm like okay.

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LA Night is showing he's a man of enter we thought that he could be but he's showing he can hang I just want to give some love to that

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LA Night Seth Rollins feud and they have a match on Saturday night as well.

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It's a little bit of the Austin vibes too from the you mentioned those time where like it would be those quick little run-ins.

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Hit your finisher and jump out and get out of the way before the bad guys can gang up on you.

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So it's those hidden run attacks that we used to love.

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I mean that's how Diamond Douse page game in main event was literally just sneaking in sometimes hitting or hitting diamond cutters and getting out.

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That's what made him so beloved by the fans so but like what like I mentioned earlier.

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Seth has about three to four.

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I almost got kind of forgot LA Night.

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He's got four people he could main event somewhere.

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He could wrestle SummerSlam for the WWE Championship and it would make sense.

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And there's reports out there right now that Roman Reigns is due back so maybe he's back on Saturday night as well.

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And that's somewhat part of the the national headlines that they're trying to be getting to steer people away from.

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Hey what happened in AWOL in Texas that day so stay tuned Saturday to the set this Saturday.

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Speaking of AWOL in Texas Dr. Trey we've mentioned before there are some really strong builds here.

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There's Tony versus Mercedes Moxley versus Paige or Codd versus Omega.

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Swurman Osprey versus the Young Bucks Syndicate Jet Speed Patriarchy.

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I simply ask you has AW finally regained its swagger back?

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They may not have gotten all their swagger back but they've at least got the right wardrobe in place.

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Like all the pieces look great.

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It's just a question of like can you actually put it all together and have a moment.

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And you know this is exactly what we've talked about for a while.

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Like you have one of the deepest most talented rosters in the history of wrestling.

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If you put the right pieces in place people are going to pay attention and when you're looking at that car it's like man a lot of this stuff is really really good.

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I mean you named off four match four or five matches right there.

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Anyone who's could actually main event an AWP review any month of the year.

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And like nothing you said like they have gotten they've gotten back into like let's just focus on what we do.

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Well let's focus on getting characters getting a storyline going and it making and people will come.

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And I think I feel people have kind of went like hey the last like you said earlier the last couple months have been very very solid for AW.

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And it's kind of got me wanting to watch all in which is the first time I've said I'm really wanting to watch an AWP review in probably at least six months.

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So that's an accomplishment in itself.

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Yeah I'm right there with you it's the same thing it's a really good build the focus has been there they're organized.

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They're just focused on their product and that's what they need to do.

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I'm still not the biggest fan of the death writers angle doctor tray but I'm hopeful that.

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Come Saturday we have a new AW world champion and it's not out of like I'm this huge hangman on page fan which I'm a big fan of him.

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It's just more like it's time to put this this storyline to bed.

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You either need to put hangman over or do something that shocks the system like I don't mean you know Adam call.

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But that's the gamble there right because as we said here we say they're are they regain their swagger.

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There's a lot of good momentum wrestling fans are excited.

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We are excited for the show on Saturday afternoon but if Moxley walks out of all in Texas at the World Champion still like I think we're going to be pissed off.

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I mean if the show closes with Moxley holding the belt and that's the end of the show yes.

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If Moxley wins but we get some kind of Darby pay off or something else that we kind of go oh crap I didn't see that coming.

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Now I have to watch Dynamite to see if they're actually going to pay it off which is something they've screwed up in the past.

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Then I might be okay with it. I just need I need the storyline to make sense and continue on but with all the hype of swerve and osprey and telling swerve that's the guy that's the guy.

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Like I feel like they have to make that move unless unless they're just like so stubborn that they're going to go with Darby.

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But if this is if all in is your WrestleMania you need to make the switch and put it on hang me.

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Do you think that this match will be booked similar to Cody and Roman from WrestleMania 40 and I say that in a sense of.

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Should we be expecting a lot of cameos in this match because that's what I'm expecting.

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Oh yeah no I fully I fully expect gave all the death writers the bugs I fully expect anybody and everybody I mean the ops are going to get them.

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I think everybody's getting involved this it almost feels like it might be anarchy in the arena around a Texas death match like I just expect people to get involved and other people come in.

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And then I kind of think that Darby is going to cost moxley the match to put hang man over.

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So next week you and I sit here as AW fumbled or are they sure to touch down or I guess in this case hit a home run.

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Can I say kick a field goal.

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They had a double they had a double in the gap.

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Yeah like I just kind of feel like the possibility is there for them to knock it out the park.

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But I don't trust them to knock it out of the park.

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I kind of expect them to hit a double by the way I've I meant to ask you I know this is on the air and we didn't discuss this.

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Are my cubs coming to New York this weekend?

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They are yeah.

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Are you going to go see any of the games?

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I'm not planning on going any games now.

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Damn.

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I have seen the cubs play in New York.

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Yeah but I wanted to see if you go give me a selfie with PCA.

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If I could get to them.

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What do you want me to do?

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He's going to be in center field.

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You can just get down there low and like hey my buddies and die hard cubs playing.

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I get a picture.

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I'm not a girl.

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You know that right?

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There's no way he takes a picture with like a guy in his late 30s.

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But you have a kid and a girl.

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Okay I could let Dangle the baby.

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Okay we'll talk about that off.

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So you think they hit a double at AW all in Texas?

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I just I just have this feeling like they have to they have to execute.

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Hey man get in the victory and if they don't there could be a lot of disgruntled fans.

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I think there's a lot writing on this.

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No pun intended for AW to do the right thing on Saturday afternoon.

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All right let me ask you this.

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Moxley wins.

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Derby repels down from the top of the stadium with a baton hand and wipes them out to set the next episode of Dynamite.

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Are you still hating it?

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Yeah no I'm not liking it still like the only way I think a derby return gets people me as a fan excited is if he comes back at all in which I think is is what's happening like I went on when I brought the cameo stuff like I'm expecting Daniel Bryan or Bryan Daniels and sting Derby to make an appearance during this match.

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I'm just saying if Mox wins and we get Derby repelling from the top of the ballpark.

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Oh I thought you said on Wednesdays Dynamite.

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No I said to set up.

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Yeah no because I think they got something special with hangman right now.

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Yeah but we thought that was swore we've thought that was Osprey and they still have them pulled the trigger.

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That's what I'm saying that's EW's track record of not doing the right thing and this is like a really important time in the history of their show because I think if Moxley and the death writers leave all in Texas with the title I think they're going to be people that are like

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you know why did I just invest this time and like where do we go from here and I think viewership will drop the death writers storyline has not been good.

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I think it is one of the worst main angle story lines that they have had as a company in their entire existence.

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All right hangman wins Moxley gets a rematch on Dynamite and Moxley regains the title.

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Is it what is this WCW? Yeah. Oh I mean people are you talking track record?

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They're going to lose fans again.

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I'm just saying you're talking track record and sometimes they do something good and then they shoot themselves in the foot immediately after.

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Because what's the payoff of the death writers angle?

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To me I felt like the initial payoff was meant to put Darby over as the AW role champion.

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I mean that's why they held off on a match with Darby and Moxley back in like the fall time when this was all started in catapult.

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Like that was the point the injury angle then he went and literally did ever so we talked about on the show and I'm like I really feel like

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listen Darby is Darby. He's a unique person individual and he is one of a kind and more power to him.

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But did the guy leave money on the table by climbing Mount Everest?

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And I think if I asked Darby on that question he would say probably but I don't give a shit.

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And again more power to him but I felt like Darby was supposed to be the guy.

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Hangman is certainly in that boat. I think there's a lot of momentum with Hangman and the fans really want to cheer him on and see him come and get that victory.

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But we've been there before and it's like was that supposed to be the payoff that Hangman Adam Page was the guy that took down the death writers.

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So I just don't think they could continue on another month with Moxley as world champion honestly.

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Yeah I agree with you. I just know like what's again track record and stubbornness like that is what I'm looking at because I don't know what is the next eight of you pay for you is.

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I think it's for a bit in the war. No I think it's for an indoor in August and then all out is like late September this year.

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Okay, because last year they really didn't back to back. Yeah they didn't like two week time intervals which was a really bad idea.

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I mean and for Bittendor I mean I just don't see like you can't if Darby doesn't net if hangman doesn't win and they're setting up for Darby and Mox.

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I just don't think you can do that for Bittendor you got to try to hold that off to all out which means you got two and a half more months of the death writer angle which.

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I mean death writers is basically ridden the death of the viewership of eight of you right now death ratings people call them.

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Yeah lastly let's talk about WWE evolution doctor tray back at 2018 for the initial evolution pay per view it was all about showcasing that the women have arrived in 2025 what is the message now how has the women to fit women's division and the perception of it evolved since 2018.

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I think now is hey look at how many really great women we have on our roster like it's it's it's a showcase of just how much talent they have from top to bottom like the amount of talent you know seven years later is astronomical.

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I mean the eight I mean the the NXT women are really great raw and smack down have loaded rosters you're getting the return of legends getting feature on the show.

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It just goes to show how much women's wrestling has really grown in the last seven years I think they're trying to showcase as much talent as possible evolution to point out.

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And I totally agree with you I think that is the message it's like in 2018 it was we have arrived and in 2025 it's we are the industry like the women's division in WWE is the best.

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I think the women are the most compelling characters on television right now they have the best matches they're doing a fantastic job I think AW the women over there are working their tails off and Mercedes whether you love her or hate her and Tony Storm are had a really good feud building to a really good profile match at AW.

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And that's what I feel like evolution to or evolution to 2025 is saying is from the WWE side of thing it's it's we are the industry and and that's really exciting and the perception of the women's division I think is is how I feel where it's the most compelling and and maybe the best in all professional wrestling.

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And it's just evolved where you don't mean you and I grew up in the air of where it was like a great this is a bathroom break this is a broad panties match and that is the case anymore you're sitting down you're watching the women's matches and your stoke form like a match that I'm matches I mentioned earlier that I'm quietly excited for soul rukin is he is a name for the women's North American championship on Saturday.

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Sunday night evolution Bailey lira val kiri and Becky Lynch because I think that they have helped pull a lot out of lira val kiri and I think lira val kiri is show that she deserves to be there so it's exciting stuff and I think that's the message is your doctor tray the second evolution it's like we are the industry.

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Yeah and then you know like the Tiffany Stratton angle of like okay she beat Charlotte at WrestleMania if she beats Trish at evolution not a lot of people I mean maybe Becky like there's not a lot of people that whole winds over Charlotte flare and Trish stratus I mean that's pretty freakin impressive so.

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I think that's really fantastic the women's tag title stuff with getting a team from each of these other shows is interesting like the like you said the amount of talent in WWE women's division is just mind blowing in so many ways I mean and then that's not to mention how many people they've just recently cut you know from the women's division as well the like for a J's the Shayna baselers you know I'll not help fire the other one.

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Ila Dawn I mean they've cut talent I mean that's unheard of like you and I grew up in an era where there's like okay it's Trish lead of Victoria Molly jazz and ivory we had six like there's 12 on each of these shows that are as good if not better than those six so it's just the depth of talent is just unparalleled right now.

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Yeah it's exciting ties for women's wrestling across the board not just in WWE but in a WTNA independent wrestling scene a whole lot more and it's it's really cool it's been one of the coolest things I've seen literally evolve in history this podcast has been the women's division because it was it went from the diva's era to really you know breaking through and it's like we want women's wrestling and women's wrestling and have their own paper view and how it's like they're the show and that's awesome and they've worked on the show.

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It's awesome and they've worked their tails off and there's a lot of trouble it blazers that have helped make that happen and it'll be a celebration on Sunday night for women's professional wrestling as a whole with that said Dr. Trey that's a look at everything that is going on this weekend in the real professional wrestling a very action packed weekend here in the middle of the summer with NXE great American bash AW all in Texas Saturday nights may event and WWE evolution rounding out the weekend with that said let's get a couple plugs and sponsors out of the way you could support us.

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