Nov. 9, 2023

WWE Crown Jewel Recap | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #717 – 11/9/23

WWE Crown Jewel Recap | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #717 – 11/9/23

On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:

- -- We recap & review "WWE Crown Jewel!"
- -- Is the Roman Reigns title reign/Bloodline storyline stalling out?
- -- Did WWE make the right call with the men's WarGames match?
- -- Is more AEW...

On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:

  • -- We recap & review "WWE Crown Jewel!"
  • -- Is the Roman Reigns title reign/Bloodline storyline stalling out?
  • -- Did WWE make the right call with the men's WarGames match?
  • -- Is more AEW pay-per-views a good or bad thing?

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It's still welcome everybody. Welcome to
this week's edition is So Real No Show

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Episode number seven and seventeen out for
November ninth, twenty twenty three. Welcome

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to your w week Crowns, who
will recap and review edition of ass On

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Team You. I am one after
the show. I am Jeff Packer,

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who joined every single week my host
only Doctor Trey Franklin, Doctor Tray.

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I could get used to midday pay
per views, my friend. Yeah,

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it's not that bad, especially once
we get out of now once again.

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I'm probably more of a college football
fan than you are. True does kind

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of battle with me a little bit, depending on I live in Alabama,

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for God's sake. If anybody doesn't
know that yet, Alabama rolls hide Alabama

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games or everything. The state shuts
down on game days. But you know,

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we've only got a couple months left. I'm probably with one o'clock pay

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per views on Saturdays going forward.
Yeah, it helps us old guys out.

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And uh, I remember the days
Doctor Trey win pay per views like

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started at four or five pm.
Actually yeah, I remember those days were

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great. I mean, I mean
boxing boxing was that way too as well.

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Like you had some of the ones
that started earlier the day those were

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those were the good times and even
uh you know you're you're free on TV

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Clash the Champions one would start around
like five or six. Yeah, when

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do you think somebody was like,
let's start airing stuff at eight pm?

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Like you and I can't even sit
here as old guys now talk about like

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the Super like the Super bowls at
six, So that's not bad. But

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World Series games they could be at
five, six, seven pm, which

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I think they're back to seven pms. But for a while they were running

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eight thirty. Like when do you
think wrestling and everything else was like,

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hey, let's start running stuff at
eight pm and end at midnight the next

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day. See that was some brilliant
marketing strategists out in the New York area

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where it's like, hey, if
we maximize the time slot for viewership,

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because nobody's doing anything at this time
or night, we should be able to

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you know, be run outdobated.
For me, it doesn't it's not as

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bad being an hour behind you.
It's you know, starting at seven and

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being done by ten. It's not
horrible, but it does Maybe wish I

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was in Colorado, but or so
we'd start at six and be done at

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nine plus weeks legal and I'd be
high as hell by the end of the

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step. I was out on the
West Coast a couple of years ago,

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and it was the strangest thing in
the world to see baseball on at ten

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am. I was not out there
for the NFL season, which I wish

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I was, because I can only
imagine what it's like to see like we

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get treated to like the European football
games when when the NFL's over in Europe,

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like they'll be in uh Germany again
this week, and that starts at

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like nine thirty am here on the
East Coast. I could get behind that

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type of stuff. Like let me, I'd rather have it in the middle

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of my day and then I can
enjoy breakfast in the beginning that I can

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enjoy the evening at night, like
I I'm down with running like PL's pay

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per views, especially aw ones at
one PM East Coast time. See when

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I lived in Nevada, I got
the West Coast games for the NFL,

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so I was getting kickoff at like
ten am on some days, and I'm

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like, I'm Sarna, eating like
a bullet cheerios, watching like giants,

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you know, giants packers and stuff
like this isn't too bad. And then

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the Niner game would come on around
one o'clock and I'm like, all right,

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and then games are over. I
show the rest of the evening to

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do stuff that was pretty cool,
you know. For the big pay per

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views, I kind of like it
being a viewing in must CTV, like

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hey man, you know I gotta
be home to watch this. But you

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know, for the wrestle media backlashes
of the world or the Crown Jewels or

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the things that are like secondary pay
per views, Okay, yeah, kick

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it off to like a one o'clock
or two three o'clock. That way,

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by Saturday night, I'm done by
seven. If me and the wife,

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me and the kids want to go
out to have dinner and go see a

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movie, we can still do that. I'm all bored. Like I am

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happier with Sunday paper or Saturday pay
per views because I still get a day

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to convalesce before going back to work. But the Sunday pay per views where

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they're not getting done till eleven thirty, twelve o'clock and then I got me

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at work at like six in the
morning. Those ones really suck. So

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you actually bring up an interesting point
here because part of me I decided to

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watch Crown Jewel live on Saturday,
and part of me like was debating literally

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an hour before they pot the show, Like I was watching the pre shows,

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like, man should I just like
it wasn't a great weather day here

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because it's starting to get cold and
damp in the Northeast. I was like,

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man, should should I just watch
this later, like sit down on

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Saturday night and watch bits and pieces
of it on Sunday as well. I

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think that's a part that we're kind
of forgetting now that maybe with the exception

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of WrestleMania, I'm watching a lot
of the wwepls on Peacock like later,

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like behind the live show or the
next day if they're airing on Saturday,

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I'm watching it on demand and I'm
watching it like in between my day,

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and I think that's like what's going
on nowadays is yes, there is still

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a market for live broadcasting, but
if someone can watch the pay per view

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over a two day time period on
Saturday and Sunday, granted if they're not

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working like an on demand DVR type
schedule like I'm down for that. I

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don't know about you, doctor Trey, but I basically watch all my television

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programming now, including Raw, NXTAW
Dynamite, Collision, Rampage, what have

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you smacked down. I'm watching it
on DVR, and if i'm watching it

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the night that it's airing, I'm
watching it on delay, like pull back

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the Curtain. You and I are
recording the show a little bit earlier this

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week. We'll recording during NXT on
Tuesday, and when this podcast gets done

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and wrapped up, I'll do a
little bit of post production stuff and then

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I'll sit down and I'll watch NXT
as far as I can before my old

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eyes start tearing out on me and
I go to bed, and then I'll

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probably pick up the rest maybe Wednesday
morning before work or Wednesday evening for a

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little bit before AW Dynamite. Like
I'm I'm very rarely watching wrestling programming live

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as it happens anymore. Yeah,
the hardest part for me is blocking out

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social media so I don't spoilers because
that is and the wrestling news websites too.

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I have that trouble as well.
You literally watched Crown Jewel I finish

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it up an hour before the podcast
today, so I have all wrong.

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So I will, like with WRAW, I'll go through it and read what

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happened on and then go through and
watch it with my in state traveling.

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Like today, I had a two
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my stores, so I kind of
throw it on as background noise when I'm

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driving, and then you know,
you get to the climax getting to finish

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things like that. I'll kind of, you know, pay attention, but

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I have the screen on my on
my SUV where I can see stuff.

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So that's how my drives becoming more
manageable. Is I just listened to I

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almost tread like the old days of
listening to baseball on the radio, Like

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I can almost visualize what's happening based
on the call. Typically Michael Cole doesn't

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call you call of John con to
choke Slam out of nowhere, and it's

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like that was basically a rock bottom
Michael Cole. But anyway, and digress

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or you know, referencing cannas Michelle
Steff canis lay. I love God,

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love Michael Cole, but also those
you know, little hiccups. I can

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kind of, you know, watch
it and visualize it in my head with

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actually having to see the action,
and then just when I hear something the

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crowd and excited, I'll, you
know, peek over and see what's going

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on. But that's that's how've been
watching a lot of my stuff lately,

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is because you know, when you
got kids, you got a family,

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and Jeff's buried now and welcome to
the club. But you don't always get

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your way when you're buried to be
like, hey we're gonna shut everything down

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for four hours, yeah WrestleMania backlash, or hey we're gonna shore everything now

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for six and a half hours and
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you don't always get your way in
those situations. You have to adjust on

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the fly. And hey, all
things considered to be this deep into the

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show, man, I'm actually pretty
proud of how far we come with you

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know, the fact that we can
actually have productive, healthy relationships in this

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current environment wrestling where it's like all
the time everywhere. Now, yeah,

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and this is kind of got to
be a theme. I'm organically enough on

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this week's this of the podcast,
so one knowing now that Doctor Treason watch

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Raw, there is a topic about
the men's wargame match, which I guess

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if you're okay, I'm gonna have
to spoil it to you. No,

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that's fine, I mean I read
about it, I just did, okay,

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and then the last thing being just
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general. We'll talk about here in
regards to aw ALL in this week's sition

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of the podcast, because it's becoming
harder to become a wrestling fan a little

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bit like they don't want you to
be tribalism where you're just WE and just

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AW or just TNA Impact Wrestling or
MLW roh, whatever your cup of tea

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is. But I tell you what, with the amount of programming each one

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of these companies is putting out,
it's getting pretty hard to follow one and

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the other as well. I mean
literally, when this show started, it

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was just RAW, the NXT,
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and then WA pay per views.
We did not really cover TNA wrestling unless

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we needed to. And now aw
is basically mirrored what WE is doing to

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a certain amount of extents. Right, They're not doing three hour shows.

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They have one show that does one
hour. But it's crazy how professional wrestling

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has really evolved and changed in nearly
the fourteen years we started doing this podcast.

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So with that being said, let's
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we Crown Jewel came to us this
past Saturday for Muhammad Abdhubi Arena and Riad

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Saudi Arabia. The pre show match
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Dot Tray and I both had Sammy's
Ain My thoughts from the match, Doctor

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Trey good opener to start the show. I thought it was great to see

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JD McDonough in the spot with sammuse
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Any thoughts on Zane defeeding McDonough,
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solid opener, sat a good bar, is at a good pace.

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I like, I don't. I
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not too much because Sammy's on a
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than Jada McDonough. But you know, McDonough's had two matches in one week,

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one with Seth ronalds with samuse Ay, and so that tells me that

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they have high hopes for him,
at least uh Samy's Ain incredibly over with

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Saudi Arabian crap, but he's incredibly
over everywhere he goes. But it is

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kind of like he's almost become the
new Man's Store for Saudi Arabia to a

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degree, is like, well,
we released Man Swore, at least I

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got Sammy back in Saudi Arabia,
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So I thought it was a good
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get the crowd amps up for the
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Seth Freaking Rons and feeding Drew McIntyre
to retain the World Heavyweight Championship. Both

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Doctor Trey and I had Seth Freaking
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I thought Drew was the new World
Heavyweight Champion after the Phoenix splash miss

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from Seth into the Claymore finisher from
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Very few times nowadays where it's like
you see a near fall and you

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actually think it's going to be a
free count. I was surprised it was

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a clean win, and I'm trigued
to see how Big Drew responds following this

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loss. The attempted Damien Priest cash
and only to be thwarted by Sam Musana,

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who stole the money bank briefcase.
Was a fun postmatch spot as well,

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Doctor Trey, I feel like this
is a match that folks should be

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talking about near the end of the
year as like a top ten match in

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Russian wrestling. In my opinion,
yeah, in my head, I had

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it like a four and a half
hour match. I thought it was a

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really damn good match. The near
falls really good. Has Seth ever hit

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the Phoenix Flash? It's been a
long time. I mean, he always

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seems to be doing the uh,
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Yeah. I think maybe when the
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might have hit it once or twice
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But like he's never hit. But
that was a great spot to head

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into the false finish day with the
Claymore. We hit the false finish with

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the stomp earlier. Like I thought
it was a damn good match. I

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was surprised we didn't get a Drew
meltdown after the match. He kind of

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just sulked and walked away. Maybe
we're they're building up to that at some

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point, but yeah, for an
opening match, I'm like, I was

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already just kind of going, I
don't think Anthony's in the top this the

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rest of the night. Like that
was just a phenomenal starting way to start

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the show out. Next match is
Ria Ripley defeating Ni Jack. Shannon Basler's

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that we starting Rackuel Rodriguez in a
fatal five way match in the Women's World

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Championship. We both had Rio Ripley
winning this match, as she did just

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quickly. Going back to the Big
Drew seth Royland's thing, I just want

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to make mention Big Drew. You
know, they didn't really do much of

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a followup. You arrive see the
arena in his pickup truck gets asked a

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question about the loss Evan Leaves,
which I thought was nice subtle build on

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the storyline. I expected more,
but they did a little subtle thing.

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Back to Ripley retaining some really cool
innovative spots in this match, with a

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small package near fall spot in the
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submission spot from Shannon Besler midway,
and then the Eradicator finish her from the

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top rope to break up a pin
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Mines. It was like Nia's character
never feels like like she we all know,

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like she could legitimately basically mortaline murder
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Her characters just never feels like she's
taking it seriously. And I don't

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know if that's the character that's where
they want her to go, but just

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it just never feels like she's close
to winning. Even when she's dominating matches.

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Raqueale still looks funky to me sometimes
in the ring, like she's still

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her timing is still a bit off. Shana and Zoe, I thought,

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came out of this match looking even
better, Like Zoe looks like a star,

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Shanea looks like legit bass. That
three way submissions spot was really cool

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and I love that way Bearson.
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submitting the fourth person right now as
well. And then Rhea, did you.

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I loved her look the other night. It looked she had a very

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much crow the kind of look to
her when she came out, and it

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just the entrance with all the Saudi
men out there. I wish they would

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kind of explain a little bit more
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a little more depth to it.
I mean, obviously, I guess the

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Saudis know what's going on, but
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then. But I thought the match
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know, but for a five way
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And then uh, you know,
Rea getting the finish on with that riptide

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onto Shanea and Raquel with Zoe was
was pretty cool. So uh good,

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so much. I just I'm a
Shanea mark. I hate when Shane is

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the way he takes the pitfall,
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younger girl safe and protect Naya as
well. Next matcher, Solosico defeating John

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Cena. We both thought John Cena
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Thoughts on this one. The match
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a dominant wrestler. They accomplished that
by him dominating Seena throughout the match and

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then the repeated someone and spikes to
finish off the match. Scene has been

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very gracious with his time by giving
back to making the younger talent and the

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w w UH sidebar. I wish
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match pl debut heading into this one, because I think it would have been

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a different least decision on my part
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that, like he's walking to the
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the way, this is his first
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It was like, why did it
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that nonetheless Solo SoC gets the victory? Doctor Try. I almost feel like

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they didn't know, and I think
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uh solo this is my solo's first solo

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Peoli match. They're like, really, you haven't had one yet. Crap

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Michael Cole mention this. It was
almost like it was like crap. I

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had that end. I also like
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have Paul Hayman with him. It
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and it gave me I don't know, like I love the match,

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because at the end I felt uncomfortable
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I know this is this is storyline
driven but dear god, I was

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like, what eight someone with spikes
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span. I'm like, yeah,
they're basically murdering John Cena on television right

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now. I mean not Impact wrestling
murdering, because they actually did that once,

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but I mean it felt awkward,
and for a guy who's been watching

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wrestling for forty years, when you
get those awkward moments, you take it

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in. It's the closest thing I
remember that was, you know lesnar Orton

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when you're like, did rating just
die on TV? Basically because just beat

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the hell out of him? Like, this was one of those uncomfortable moments,

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even though it was totally at work, but they did a really good

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job with it. Next match year
is Logan Paul defeating Ray Masteria to win

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the w United States Championship. Doctor
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the victory. Thoughts on this one. This was a different kind of match

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that we've seen from Logan Paul where
he focused on a specific body part of

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ray Maisterio, which was its mid
section. It's out of the viral spots

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and athleticism we typically see from Paul. I felt for the last several months

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that we would eventually build towards Santos
Escovar turning on Raymisterio ever since Ray took

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Santos spot in the US title match
when Ray won the championship, and that

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appears to be heading in that way, as Santos accidentally left the rass knocks

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on the apron for Logan Paul to
use before chasing one of Logan Paul's friends

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to the back. Whether wrestling fans
like it or not, Logan Paul be

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in US champion will get new eyes
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title reign will last until at least
Russell Manning forty Doctor Truy. We have

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a surprising and new United States Champion. Yeah. My note to this one

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was Logan Paul's way too good for
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his footwork's on par he pays attention
in the ring. You know, I've

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seen guys, you know, wrestlers
go back and forth this week saying that

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Logan Paul is out of the out
of position on that moon thought where he

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caught Ray. I've seen people say
that he saved Ray's life basically by not

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letting Rey go head first into the
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you know, and caught that,
and even if he was out of

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position or rageous undershot it, the
fact that he could adjust and basically save

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save Ray's head and neck was really
good. Ray busting out some missions in

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this match. I don't really remember
Ray using submissions ever before, so I

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liked that. It was also a
little bit more depth to Ray's characters still,

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like, Ray's not just playing the
hits, He's doing a little bit

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of everything. That that moon Salt
fallaway slam is fabulous. I have only

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seen one other person in wrestling do
that, and the guy's a freak of

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nature that does it. So seeing
that, and then I don't know if

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this US title run is gonna go
all the way to WrestleMania, just because,

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like we mentioned last week's show,
like to not have the US title

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and the World title on SmackDown Full
Time makes it feel like some guys are

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just fighting for price. It like
like, well, I don't know whether

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I don't know if you're fighting for. If the titles aren't around, what

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are you fighting for? So it'll
be interesting see how long they run with

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this. I kind of think they
might take the belts off of them before

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Rumble and then give him a rematch
at WrestleMania. I just feel like,

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yeah, I feel like he's involved
at least, you know, maybe in

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the US title p Make sure like
you're saying, I just could see that

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they want to keep this on him
to do promotional stuff for the next several

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months, and maybe he is a
regular on television Doctor Try from this point

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forward. It's as the possibility.
I mean, I think it kind of

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depends on the social media influx against
I'm sure right now it's still pretty big.

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But if he goes off TV for
a few weeks, like where are

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we at the end? Just do
the crowds are saying, hey, we

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need we need some sort of title
defendant on SmackDown. Having two part time

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champions is something that you know,
the hardcore fans typically rebel against when that

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situation arises. In Triple H we
trust, right, Doctor Trey and Triple

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H we Trust? Next match here
is Eosky defeating Bianca Bellater to retain their

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WA Women's Championship, with at EO
getting the victory. Thoughts on this one

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match straged on for a bit and
the crowd seemed completely dead until it picked

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up the final five minutes or so
as Bailey try to interfere. Kyrie Sayne's

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return was a nice surprise, even
though it's been in the news the last

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several weeks. I lining her with
EO Sky to help retain and Bailey being

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shot by Kyrie's return to help her
damage control counterpart was a nice twist they

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last left it, Bailey took out
Kyrie saying and ended her runing w back

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in July twenty twenty. From a
storyline standpoint, her and Sasha Banks did

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that Kyrie is back, She's aligned
with EO. Bailey looks like she had

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no clue about it, and they're
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things interesting heading into Friday SmackDown,
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this one? Yeah, I was. I think I love Eoskuy. I

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think I think she's miscast as a
heel, and I think sometimes that's where

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the crowd has a hard time picking
aside because obviously the crowd loves Bianca,

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but then we also love EO,
so it's kind of hard for them to,

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you know, get fully behind one
side or the other. So I

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think That's why sometimes you feel like
the matches are dragging because the crowds is

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nothing into it because they don't know
who to cheer for. The Kyrie return

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I thought was great. Kyrie's look. She looks more badass now than she

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did during her I meanw run.
I'm glad she didn't come out and all

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the Princess Pirate regalia. She just
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And I'm gonna be interested to see
how this plays out because you know,

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EO's in damage drill. Kyrie's friends
of EO, but she's not in damage

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control. Not to mention, Kyrie
and Osca have history as a former tag

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team champion. Does Oscar get into
the mix and then do we see you

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know, does Bailey go back to
being a babyface? Does do the EO

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Kyrie and Oscar go baby like?
Where do they go with this? So

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the dynamics in play here are very
very interesting. Yeah, it is very

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nice dynamics and we'll see it all
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know, it's I guess it's possible
Bailey could come out of this as a

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babyface, Doctor Troy. I mean
she people always want to cheer Bailey.

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I mean, we love people who
love like who love this sport. We

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all know much Bailey loves wrestling,
and she's been a heel now for what

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three years? Three almost four years
before the pandemic. Yeah, it was

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like one of those first new smackdowns
on on Fox. It was like October

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twenty nineteen. So it would I
mean, it's if anybody's dude to go

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back to being a babyface, it'd
probably be her. So I recently thought

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to myself, I'm like, man, if there was a time to bring

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back NXC Bailey the Hugger now,
would be this time. I feel like

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it's it's due and that crawls little
absolutely nuts for the Bailey buddies and that

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song to play one more time.
She needs a she needs a big beat

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down by all three you know,
Kyrie, Osca and EO. So basically

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she has kind of a little bit
of head trauma to come back with the

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at pony Tail and go back to
being the hugger. You know, if

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they do that, the fans will
be chanting for Sasha, right, They'll

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be thinking like Sasha is going to
come out, like, oh she's back,

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She's back. But We'll say.
So let's we know we never got

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the Four horse Women versus the Four
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use Charlotte Bailey and beckig Ains,
Oscar Eo and Kyrie say tune, stay

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tuned. Next match here is Cody
Roads defeating Damian Priest, who both had

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Cody getting the victory. Solid match
and what we are used to for both

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Cody and Damien. Nothing special about
this match that really stood out other than

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I was happy for Damien to get
this opportunity against one of the biggest stars

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in the business. And how will
be interesting now? It will now be

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interesting to see what WWE does with
Cody next as we get closer and closer

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to WrestleMania season. Dutch Trer thoughts
on Cody Rhades defeating Damian Priest. Yeah,

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I love that they let Damian Priest
use the reckoning. I thought because

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he was as Cody debut, he
had to stop using it basically, so

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I'm glad they busted that out once
again, letting letting, you know,

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getting Cody the whim. But it's
taking four five Crossroads to put Damien away.

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You know, he usually saves the
three Crossroads in a row for the

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brock Lesners. So Damien getting that
rub that it took that much to put

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him away, Uh is great.
By the way, that chokes lamb,

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that South of Heaven chokes lamb he
had on Cody was freaking amazing, Like

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Cody almost jumped over like he was
above like like his heels were above Damien's

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head. So that was a great
bump on that one. So u.

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And then plus, anytime I can
see Domique Seir get booed by foreign people,

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I get excited about because as he
shows, he's over as a heel

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everywhere. So good job for Dami
or good job for dom Yeah. Absolutely,

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So there you go, Cody Rhodes
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And then finally the main event here, Roman Reins defeats La Knights to retain

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the undisputed of WA Universal Championship.
We both had Roman Reigns again the victory

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here. And this is going to
kind of bleed in a little bit into

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the next topic I want to talk
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I think wwe may have growing problem
on their hands now that every single Roman

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Reigns match has a very similar blueprint. Every single time Challenger seems like a

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formal opponent to dethrone Rains. A
near fall where you think the title will

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change hands happens a member of the
Bloodline interferes. The member of the Bloodline

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takes the bullet for Rains from the
challenger. Rains capitalizes on that and wins

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the match. I'd like to see
WWE change it up a bit in these

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Roman Reigns matches. It's okay for
Rains to be dominant, to cleanly defeat

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his opponent like brock Lesner used to
do, or like when the old big

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dog Roman Reigns held gold. This
criticism is coming from a fan in me

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of the Roman Reigns title Rain as
well. Nonetheless, La and I showed

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he belonged in this main event spot
and hopefully this is just the beginning,

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rather than w w A capitalize on
what they may perceive to be a short

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term popularity growth spurt for La Night. Nonetheless, Doctor Trey Roman Reigns Retains.

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Yeah, so I'll talk of the
match for I thought the match was

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was solid. You're right, the
blueprint does kind of take away from the

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match, like if you watch the
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I think I would like to match
more, but like you said, this

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is kind of rinse repeat type situation. Then again, I mean, this

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is Triple Ah and he's from the
Rick Flair school, and when Flair was

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on top, there was horsemen here, faring horsemen in horseman doing something allowing

397
00:27:02.759 --> 00:27:06.599
Flair to get the win. This
is kind of what he knows, so

398
00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:11.119
I don't always hate it. It's
a way of them kind of protecting the

399
00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:15.359
new baby face. I mean,
you go back to Hogan in the nWo,

400
00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:18.160
it was kind of the same thing. This is kind of what He'll

401
00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:22.920
champions typically do, is they have
that backup to let them get the win.

402
00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:26.880
And even if it was just in
the old days of having a manager

403
00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:29.920
a ring side to actually get up
and interfere. You know, we see

404
00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:33.359
with Judgment Day, you know somebody's
goning to lose. Fin pops up,

405
00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:36.480
Dom, pops up, Rhea,
pops up, somebody sneaks in, there's

406
00:27:36.519 --> 00:27:40.680
the sneak attack and they get the
win. It's kind of heal wrestling one

407
00:27:40.759 --> 00:27:42.960
oh one. But yeah, when
when you're dealing with somebody who's on a

408
00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:48.200
tear like La Knight, Hey,
maybe we change it up a little bit.

409
00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:52.640
Maybe he makes a mistake because we're
playing into this is his first shot

410
00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:56.880
at the big time. Maybe he
just makes a mistake in Roman capitalizes and

411
00:27:56.079 --> 00:28:00.720
that's the finish and is something a
little bit different. You can still play

412
00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:03.440
off it like he's still learning how
to be a main eventor Yeah, I

413
00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:07.680
think there's gonna be more about this
rain stuff here that we'll talk about here

414
00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:11.599
in just a few uh. Pay
per view predictions. Both Doctor Trey and

415
00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:14.079
I went seven and one. I'm
one, O eight and thirty nine on

416
00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:18.039
the year Doctor Trade one on one
forty six event rating and Match of the

417
00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:22.319
night. I gave Crown Jewel a
solid three point six. I didn't love

418
00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:25.480
it. I didn't hate it.
I liked it. It was fine.

419
00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:29.119
Uh. And my match of the
night was Seth Rolins and Drew McIntire Doctor

420
00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:32.000
Trait. What say you Yeah,
I was in a three point eight.

421
00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:33.839
It was on once again. It
was there was nothing bad on the show,

422
00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:38.920
like everything was solid. It's reminiscent
of maybe a bigger version of the

423
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:44.240
old NXT shows where like everything's good, uh, and then you're just hoping

424
00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:47.480
for that one or two great big
moments to kick out. I thought this

425
00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:52.200
would had a great match and then
six pretty good matches, so uh three

426
00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:55.559
point eight and then Seth and Drew
is my match of the night as well.

427
00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:57.960
So there you go. Feel free
to chime in at SRTU podcast on

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x or Facebook dot com slashes to
a Realta show. So Doctor Trey I

429
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:06.960
talked about it there a little bit. We both talked about a little bit.

430
00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:14.240
I simply ask is the Roman Reign's
title reign slash bloodline storyline stalling out

431
00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:18.440
a bit? I think you brought
up some really good points that it's that

432
00:29:18.599 --> 00:29:22.000
old school booking mentality that this is
what the Four Horsemen did, this is

433
00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:25.559
what the nWo did, This is
what the Judgment Day is currently doing.

434
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:30.599
Where these stables with the heels heeled
champion leading it, they protect them heavy

435
00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:34.400
interference, and it just builds and
builds where you get sick and tired of

436
00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:38.960
seeing them at the top and you
want somebody, anybody some here to come

437
00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:44.039
in and knock them off the throne. Which I'm with that. I like

438
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:47.319
that style of booking. It makes
a lot of sense. But I feel

439
00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:52.119
like, as it constantly happens time
and time again, it when it becomes

440
00:29:52.160 --> 00:30:00.000
so repeatable that it's almost like a
crime that they're doing this each and every

441
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:03.920
time. I go back to Cody
Rhodes Roman Reigns at Wrestle Many thirty nine.

442
00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:07.880
I love that match. That match
was great. That made a lot

443
00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:10.880
of sense how that was booked,
because I thought the door was open.

444
00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:15.640
And then you go to Summerstem against
jay usso that made sense based on the

445
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:18.880
storyline with he and his brother and
the rest of the bloodline and Roman Reigns.

446
00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:21.759
But then it's like stuff with La
and I. You know, I've

447
00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:23.400
seen this before. I've seen this
with Sammy Zain. I've seen this with

448
00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:30.240
Kevin Owens. I've seen this with
uh Drew McIntyre. Yes, they clashed

449
00:30:30.319 --> 00:30:33.400
the cast I'm trying to think of
like other opponents of his and we've been

450
00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:37.640
there so many times. I've seen
it with Edge and Daniel Bryan at rest

451
00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:41.599
Many thirty seven. It's like we've
seen it time and time and time again,

452
00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:47.960
and it makes you wonder like are
they running out of ideas? Are

453
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:51.519
they stalling a little bit? Because
I feel like, for the first time

454
00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:55.440
in three years, mind you,
this is not me bitching or shitting on

455
00:30:55.519 --> 00:30:59.799
the Roman Reigns title rain or the
bloodline storyline in general, because let me

456
00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:03.240
tell you, they are hitting Grand
Slam after Grand Slam. They're hitting it

457
00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:07.759
out of the park every single time, consistently for three years. But this

458
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:11.559
may be the only time in the
title reign and the bloodline storyline where it's

459
00:31:11.599 --> 00:31:17.000
stalled a little bit. And either
they're stalling because they're waiting for something bigger

460
00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:19.880
to happen at a later date,
whether it be the Royal Rumble or Wreussellmania

461
00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:23.559
season, what have you, or
they simply don't know what to do,

462
00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:27.079
which is a possibility in creative I
highly doubt it nowadays with Triple H at

463
00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:30.400
the Helmel, but I'll throw it
out there anyway. It just feels like

464
00:31:30.519 --> 00:31:36.200
that for the first time, Doctor
Trey in a three year plus title reign,

465
00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:40.680
that Roman Reigns is stalling a little
bit. The bloodline and a three

466
00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:47.599
year plus storyline, one of the
best storylines we've seen in nearly twenty years,

467
00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:51.240
may be stalling out a little bit, And that's what it feels like

468
00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:52.599
right now. It's like the first
time that we've seen a little bit of

469
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:56.720
a lag. Do you feel that
way? Do you think I'm being a

470
00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:00.519
little bit too critical here. What
are your thoughts on especially on that LA

471
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:04.440
and Night match at Crown Jewel.
I mean you have to also take into

472
00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:08.880
consideration this is uncharted territory for WW
that we've never they I mean, everybody

473
00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:14.920
in creative right now has never dealt
with a champion running this law. So

474
00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:19.559
it does come down to, hey, there are only so many finishes you

475
00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:23.720
can book and still look somewhat original. The problem is, like you mentioned,

476
00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:30.759
we've seen it so repetitively over the
last few title defenses that it becomes

477
00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:34.759
almost sick. Commis it's like watching
episode of Full House where you know the

478
00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:37.240
one of the girls is going to
get into a situation. They're gonna go

479
00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:39.720
to dad. Dad's got to fix
it. By the end of the show,

480
00:32:39.799 --> 00:32:43.440
everybody's all happy. It's kind of
the same thing, like we kind

481
00:32:43.480 --> 00:32:46.759
of know either Solo's gonna go involved
or Jimmy's gonna get involved, and then

482
00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:50.920
somebody's gonna take a bullet for that, and then all of a sudden there's

483
00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:54.759
the spear and then we get the
one two three. There is a little

484
00:32:54.759 --> 00:32:59.079
bit of redundancy in it, but
at the same time, if you if

485
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:04.680
you look at when somebody dethroned a
heel champion, whether it was Flair or

486
00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:07.680
Hogan, uh, because those are
the two main ones. I could think

487
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:13.759
of the crowd response and the pop
that person got when they did it.

488
00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:17.680
I mean, I remember as a
kid, they made Ronnie Garvin a star

489
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:23.160
by beating Rick Flair, you know, they they made when Lex Luger beat

490
00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:27.799
Hulk Hogan. You know, on
Night dro I think it was that the

491
00:33:27.920 --> 00:33:30.880
crowd went nuts for a Lex Luger
world title win. I mean that was

492
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:34.799
at the end of Luger's career run
basically for the most part, and I

493
00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:37.839
was amazed that anybody was still cheering
for him. You know, it made

494
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:43.319
Goldberg a huge star, Diamond dowas
Page. The problem is is then when

495
00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:47.799
do you want to make that move
because otherwise you're trying to protect everybody in

496
00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:52.279
the match by going, well,
he lost because of chickanery, so Roman

497
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:57.119
gets to keep the lynx. But
the good guy doesn't look weak because it

498
00:33:57.200 --> 00:34:00.799
took everybody take him down. I
mean, really, the only heel champion

499
00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:04.480
in WWE that this isn't working for
is Rehea, and that's just Ria beating

500
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:07.960
up everybody else, all the other
heels. This is kind of the modus

501
00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:13.280
operandi for everybody in WWE when it
comes to heel champions. Yeah, it's

502
00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:15.280
it's I don't know. I don't
know if I'm just being a little bit

503
00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:19.800
too rough. It is old school
booking. It's just I want to see

504
00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:22.199
something different. I don't think it's
a bad thing for Roman to dominate.

505
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:28.920
Like he's believable in that sense as
well. Doctor try No, I mean

506
00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:31.599
he is. He's a legit simonean
badass. And that's why I'm saying,

507
00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:36.559
hey, with somebody like La Knight, where if you're like La Knight,

508
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:40.519
hits the BFT goes with the pin, Roman kicks out, he jumps up,

509
00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:44.760
starts arguing, the ref picks Roman
up, goes for a second one,

510
00:34:44.920 --> 00:34:46.679
Roman moves out of the way,
hits the spear one, two,

511
00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:52.400
three. You can blame it on
La Knight's inexperience, and he still looks

512
00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:57.639
protected by doing that, whereas if
you just go to the old interference,

513
00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:00.639
take a bullet, there's a pin, you know, and that's it.

514
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:06.159
It becomes it's like, well,
he's still protected. But it's the same

515
00:35:06.239 --> 00:35:07.679
thing they did with Sammy and they
did with Jay, and they did it

516
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:12.039
with Drew, and they did with
Cody, and after a while you're like,

517
00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:15.480
is it still really protecting the guy? So there are ways to look

518
00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:19.800
at the depth of the character of
the opponent and still tweak it to make

519
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:22.960
it look fresh. If that's the
route you want to go, I'm asking

520
00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:27.719
you this in November. Obviously a
lot can change here, especially in over

521
00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:30.199
the next eight weeks when we get
closer to Royal Rumble and then you know,

522
00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:34.679
sixteen weeks as we get closer to
Wrestlemaning, which is just like absurd

523
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:37.199
to say, but it's it's true. Right, We're like, we're gonna

524
00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:39.920
be it'll be six five four,
six months, four to six months away

525
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:45.760
from wrestle maning right now about that
maybe five months, I guess we'll be

526
00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:50.920
the better timeline. You know.
They said after the win over Cody Roads

527
00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:52.400
that they were in like the bottom
of the third inning. It's the baseball

528
00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:57.920
terminology that we hear from time to
time about this bloodline Roman Reigns storyline title

529
00:35:57.960 --> 00:36:02.039
Reign, What inning do you really
think we're in? Like, are we

530
00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:07.840
approaching Russell Mannie forty? Cody Roman
two and Cody gets the victory finally.

531
00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:12.679
Yeah, I'll think we're in the
seventh inning, like the relievers are starting

532
00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:15.159
to warm up, the bullpens are
getting ready. You know, your starter's

533
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:20.199
getting a little tired, and that's
the route you want to go. Like

534
00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:22.519
to me, I think that everything's
kind of setting up for Cody Roman two.

535
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:28.519
I mean, I still love to
see rock Roman La Knight. I

536
00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:32.320
mean, I know you kind of
mentioned it briefly, the reports that w

537
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:37.440
things he might have hit his peak
in popularity, he may have capped out.

538
00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:44.239
I don't see that gets so,
but I do kind of feel like

539
00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:46.800
they're writings on the wall for Cody
Roman two and that's the way to go.

540
00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:50.880
So, I mean, Cody wins
the rumble and then challenges Roman.

541
00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:53.280
I guess that's where we're headed.
Yeah, it's interesting, it really is.

542
00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:58.679
And I will say, just all
things aside and we're moving. As

543
00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:01.480
I think you pointed out here as
well. If you if you don't take

544
00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:05.559
a new account that they've done this
blueprint before this match, did a really

545
00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:08.079
good job of protecting lant Night,
and I think actually elevated l and Night

546
00:37:08.199 --> 00:37:13.920
in a loss. Yeah, because
you can here's here's the question. It

547
00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:15.199
all comes out to how do you
book him coming out of this? And

548
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:20.760
we'll see a little bit more of
it on Friday on SmackDown, where certain

549
00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:22.239
guys can have a match and you
look at go, yeah, he's a

550
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:24.719
main eventor he's the guy we got
to keep it the top of the card

551
00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:30.679
where Sammy had a great match elimination
Chamber and end up at the top of

552
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:34.360
the card of the tag team division. But you know, he just has

553
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:37.039
to, you know, give a
promo cop weaks about how he wants to

554
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:40.519
be viewed as a singles main event
star, and I'm like, didn't you

555
00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:45.639
just have like a match with Roman, like an elimination chamber last year a

556
00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:47.559
year ago where you were in the
main events, challenging for the World Eayweight

557
00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:52.360
Championship in your hometown, Like doesn't
that make you a main eventor in that

558
00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:55.039
regard, like we've seen it with
Jay. You know, Jay gets a

559
00:37:55.079 --> 00:37:59.280
match of SummerSlam and then he's a
tag team champion. Again. It's like,

560
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:02.239
does La Knight end up in a
tag team or something like what do

561
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:06.719
you or do you keep him as
a single star and make him the one

562
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:10.559
a or the one beat of Romans
one A on SmackDown and build the show

563
00:38:10.599 --> 00:38:15.119
around him way to Romans not on
TV. So I think there's a couple

564
00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:17.400
of ways to go about the La
Knight stuff. And this is a little

565
00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:21.760
bit impromptu. I was thinking about
this. I was thinking maybe he versus

566
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:25.280
Logan paul Us title he versus like
an Austin theory, Grayson Waller some two

567
00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:30.039
heels that are very annoying. You
could pull the brock Lesner card for La

568
00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:34.239
Knight and then if you really want
to help elevate him a little bit,

569
00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:38.280
I think you have him pair up
against somebody from the Judgment day heading into

570
00:38:38.360 --> 00:38:43.400
russell Mania season. But you know, he's definitely fixated on on some big

571
00:38:43.519 --> 00:38:45.360
plans. I think that's the way
I would go about it right now,

572
00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:50.960
Doctor Trading's some eyes on La Night. I'd pair him up with Kevin Owens

573
00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:54.440
like hair him up or one on
one, like you know, like both

574
00:38:54.519 --> 00:38:59.000
baby faces, but like a little
bit of you know, we get the

575
00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:02.559
comparisons of Owens to Austin, and
then people will compare La Knight to Rock

576
00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:06.760
like let him play off each other, let them be that oddball pairing where

577
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:09.199
once kind of glitz and glamour and
the other one's kind of blue collar,

578
00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:13.639
and then you can do the Waller
theory stuff. You have them still battle

579
00:39:13.639 --> 00:39:16.480
the bloodline and you know, have
them both compete for that shot against Roman,

580
00:39:16.599 --> 00:39:21.519
leading into real royal rumble, and
then both guys are kind of rubbing

581
00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:23.639
off each other. We saw that
living with Sammy and Kevin heading into WrestleMania

582
00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:28.840
last year. But you have to
make a decision when Roman's not on TV,

583
00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:31.639
who's this show built around. Who
are we featuring in that maint Evan

584
00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:35.840
spot. Who's our go to guy? And is it La Knight or is

585
00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:38.559
it somebody else? Because when Roman's
not on the show, the shows are

586
00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:45.079
okay, but they're not mussy.
You need to develop another mussy star on

587
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:49.360
that show to help keep the ratings
up and help keep the viewership. Otherwise

588
00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:52.480
people are just gonna tune out and
wait so for you know, then for

589
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:53.280
wait for us people to say that, hey, Roman will be on the

590
00:39:53.320 --> 00:39:55.920
show in two weeks. Okay,
well tune back in and watching two weeks.

591
00:39:57.440 --> 00:40:00.679
Otherwise, you need that breakout guy
to be the cornerstone of the show.

592
00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:05.480
At least if Cestona on the show
on a raw you got a bunch

593
00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:07.719
of other people. You got the
Cody's, you got the other guys that

594
00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:13.840
you can kind of focus the show
on SmackDown outside of Roman and maybe La

595
00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:15.119
Knight Right now, like, who
else are you building that show around?

596
00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:22.519
Switching gears here towards the Wargames match
Men's Wargames match. It was announced at

597
00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:27.440
the end of Monday's Raw, with
Adam Pierce taking the line from William Regal.

598
00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:30.039
It will be Seth Rolin, sammy's
Ay and Jay Uso and Cody Rhodes

599
00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:35.840
taking on the Judgment Days Damian Priest, Finnbaler, Dominic Mysterio and Judgment Day

600
00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:40.440
friend JD McDonough in the Wargames match, Doctor Trey, Is this the right

601
00:40:40.599 --> 00:40:45.239
call for the Men's Wargames match?
Yeah, I mean there's really no other

602
00:40:46.719 --> 00:40:50.360
stable that's in a deep feud.
I mean, as much as we talk

603
00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:53.480
about the Bloodline, I mean they're
kind of in fighting and from the way

604
00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:57.960
Crown Jewel ended seen as going off
TV for a while, so they don't

605
00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:00.840
really have anybody else to jump in
there. I mean, could you have

606
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:06.519
done like Solo and Jimmy Waller in
the theory and then pairing up then you

607
00:41:06.679 --> 00:41:12.119
probably maybe you throw Lashly in the
profits and somebody together, but on paper,

608
00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:15.119
this is the best pairing of all
these guys. Plus you know,

609
00:41:16.199 --> 00:41:19.519
at any point, I mean,
you have a war Games match in your

610
00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:22.599
World Champions in it, you could
easily have Damian Priese cash in post match,

611
00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:27.480
So there's some intrigue to that as
well. I love that idea.

612
00:41:27.639 --> 00:41:30.960
I actually thought about that as I
was watching the end of Raw. It's

613
00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:34.159
funny you say that, because I
was like, man, it would be

614
00:41:34.320 --> 00:41:37.639
so cool if they use the Wargames
match hip for Damian Priest to cash in.

615
00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:40.320
I mean, I think it's the
other War Games matter we've had it

616
00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:45.519
where like it ends, it basically
everybody's down and one guy happens to get

617
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:49.440
the pin, and then Priest pops
up grabs the ROMs south of Heaven through

618
00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:52.800
a table inside war Games and pins
them and could escape with the title.

619
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:55.719
That would be pretty cool. And
then you know, you get a little

620
00:41:55.719 --> 00:41:59.599
bit of a run with Damien Priests
and maybe Seth wins the rumble to get

621
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:01.800
his remat to wrestle any you know
something like that, So you can go

622
00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:05.079
that route, and that way you
also get to find out if Damian Priest

623
00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:08.360
could be a main eventor so.
But yeah, on paper it's the best

624
00:42:08.440 --> 00:42:13.719
pairing. Plus you know, Sammy's
been in him. Uh, let's see,

625
00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:15.519
has anybody else been in like,
Priest has been in one, Sammy's

626
00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:21.079
been in one. Uh, Jay's
been in one? Was in one?

627
00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:23.280
I thought Priest was in one in
NXT, was he not? Okay?

628
00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:28.719
Maybe not? Maybe? I know
Owen's been in some, Sammy's been in

629
00:42:28.840 --> 00:42:34.760
one, Jay's been in one.
Cody was in Blood and Guts, right,

630
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:39.039
Yeah, I guess that's kind of
I don't think Rollins has Uh No,

631
00:42:39.280 --> 00:42:43.639
Rollins hasn't been in one. Finn
been in one yet, I don't

632
00:42:43.679 --> 00:42:47.199
believe. So. I only think
it's Jay and Sammy who's been in one.

633
00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:52.239
And you know so to get by
the way, I'm loving the idea

634
00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:55.519
of the endomic mysterio in the War
Games. I love Tom but I mean

635
00:42:55.599 --> 00:42:58.719
it's weird. I used to hate
him and now he's one of my favorite

636
00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:00.840
people to watch because he's so good
it being just a shitty heel that every

637
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:04.960
one you get destroyed. Uh.
And then you throw in the Judgment day

638
00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:08.119
in turn JD McDonough into the mix, like like those some small guys are

639
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:13.679
gonna get tossed around in that match, so and they're gonna be like,

640
00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:16.519
really what Seth and Cody? Seth, Cody and Samuel the Also, the

641
00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:20.800
Judgment Day has all the young guys
that take the big bumps. Uh.

642
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:23.039
And then we all know Cody will
moon salt off anything if he's in a

643
00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:30.079
cage. So that stuff that's definitely
happening now again. They had a very

644
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:35.960
funny line behind the scenes on Raw
backstage where Damien you know JD McDonald's weren't

645
00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:39.159
Damian pre shirt? Uh? He
asked JD McDonough in a fit of rage,

646
00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:42.239
did you buy that? And he's
like, you left it around?

647
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:45.440
I was like, that was just
like such a very funny throat, Like

648
00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:49.960
why are they doing this? I
think I feel like and I love when

649
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:54.039
when wrestlers do this because the Bloodline
did it a lot. I feel like

650
00:43:54.159 --> 00:44:00.119
the Judgment Days trying to pop one
another a lot, and it's making for

651
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:04.599
very subtle, funny television. This
right now is a four on four match.

652
00:44:04.760 --> 00:44:08.159
Last year they did five on five. Should we expect two people to

653
00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:14.400
be added to this match? I
mean, who do you throw in?

654
00:44:14.840 --> 00:44:19.079
Like? Who do you add the
big Drew with the judgment day he'll turn

655
00:44:19.800 --> 00:44:22.039
But then who do you have go
on the other side? I hear voices

656
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:28.440
in my head. That's true,
you could do that. I for some

657
00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:30.320
reason, there's part of me that
want to see like Ria and Rockqueale get

658
00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:35.760
into this, or Ria and Zoey, like just add the girls and you

659
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:37.880
know Rea act. I mean,
Ria can beat up half the guys on

660
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:44.960
the roster anyway. Hell, we've
seen Naya toss around guys like throw them

661
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:47.440
into the mix too, like I'm
sure they'll be I'm sure they'll end up

662
00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:52.039
the women's war Games match as well
to kind of counterbalance it. But uh,

663
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:53.079
you know, throw Drew and Randy
into it. That's fine, But

664
00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:59.519
do you really want Randy's really first
match back in to be inside wargames like

665
00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:01.840
that and trade offs? Like I
kind of want his first match to be

666
00:45:01.960 --> 00:45:05.840
back like on a bed made of
feathers, so now I don't have to

667
00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:10.360
worry about him taking bumps. They
are They are crazy people, especially one

668
00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:15.199
Randy Uran. And then finally here
Doc Trey wanted to bring up. World's

669
00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:20.000
End was announced for December thirty.
The aw World's End NASAU I'll sum in

670
00:45:20.079 --> 00:45:24.079
Long Island, New York. That
makes another month with another AW pay per

671
00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:29.599
view. November will be full gear. Decemberly World's End. I would expect

672
00:45:29.840 --> 00:45:34.400
something will be announced for January February. I assume his revolution. But this

673
00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:39.320
is the report that AW would be
adding monthly pay per views. It's happening

674
00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:43.960
now. As a wrestling fan,
As an AW fan, is this a

675
00:45:44.079 --> 00:45:50.159
good or bad thing? Uh?
Maybe it's good because you can kind of

676
00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:57.360
get condensed for sixcinc storylines maybe instead
of trying to like the like we love

677
00:45:57.440 --> 00:46:00.079
AW AW for the most part,
it's really good. But when they they

678
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:02.320
do like long term storyline, sometimes
it's all over the place and they have

679
00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:06.320
to remember how to get back to
it. Maybe by shortening it up and

680
00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:08.119
going, okay, we got three
weeks pay per view, three weeks pay

681
00:46:08.119 --> 00:46:13.639
per view, three weeks pay per
view, it's easier to tell shorter burst

682
00:46:13.880 --> 00:46:17.039
storylines and then still have a longer
term one if you want to do it

683
00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:22.199
that way. So I'm gonna say
it's okay, it's not a bad thing.

684
00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:29.000
I'm not a hey more more pay
per views. Maybe it means that

685
00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:30.760
they're gonna make him shorter. You
know, and we're not doing five hour

686
00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:32.440
paper views. Maybe you can say, hey, you guys won't be on

687
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:35.960
this one, but you'll be on
next months one, you know, and

688
00:46:36.079 --> 00:46:38.440
that way they can kind of go
that way and not saucess completely. And

689
00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:43.760
then the other thing is World.
That was one of my favorite movies in

690
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:47.920
the U Sean of the Dead trilogy. They did so good little pub crawl

691
00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:51.920
movie, if you ever want to
go back and watch it. I am

692
00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:58.119
dreading more aw pay per views down
to try. Really, I just think

693
00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:01.119
that they're so freaking long. I'm
trying to watch what I say because I

694
00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:04.960
can hear young Sammy in the background, and he doesn't need to learn any

695
00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:09.880
more bad language from us. He's
heard it all this week. But if

696
00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:14.400
we do it's like just to mention, if you do a if you tell

697
00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:15.760
the guys, hey, you won't
be on this pay per view because we're

698
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:19.960
gonna keep it three hours, you'll
be on the next one, which will

699
00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:22.960
be three hours. Also, if
we get two to three hour pay reviews,

700
00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:24.960
this's in a one six hour pay
per view, it's more digestible.

701
00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:31.760
Yeah, I just hope that they
do shorter pay per views because the five

702
00:47:31.920 --> 00:47:35.920
hour thing that we just saw with
Wressell Dream and Wressell Dream is a great

703
00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:39.039
show, but it's like, I
gotta tell my family I'll see them in

704
00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:45.559
the morning at five o'clock because they
wanted to run a two hour pre show.

705
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:47.599
I feel like, if you're going
to do the monthly pay per view

706
00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:52.639
model, you need to tighten up
your shows here. We don't need to

707
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:55.840
have these throwaway matches anymore. I
don't need to see Emmy Sakura taking on

708
00:47:57.000 --> 00:48:00.880
sky Blue for the sixteenth time in
a row for no freaking reason, or

709
00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:07.800
like this random trios pairing of Emmy
Sakkara and a J and Marina Shafira taking

710
00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:13.760
on Willow Nightingale sky Blue and this
random girl Kira Hogan, Like what are

711
00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:16.880
we doing? What? How do
we build towards this? With zero hour?

712
00:48:19.280 --> 00:48:22.639
What was the one last week or
last with the Shane or Keith Lee

713
00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:30.400
and Dustin Rhodes and Mark Briscoe.
Yeah, it's like wait, Like,

714
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:34.559
well, the Davilan Paprie was like
a it was an intergender six man tag

715
00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:37.199
or eight man tag. Oh yeah, I think you're right. Yes,

716
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:43.639
Keith Lee has been like the king
of random matches in AW lately, like

717
00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:46.480
how the Mighty have Fallen? In
every pay per view he looks completely different,

718
00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:50.840
Like one week he like Uncle Phil
from Fresh Prince, and then like

719
00:48:50.920 --> 00:48:54.199
also a d aged thirty five years
like Star Wars CGI Tech. Now.

720
00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:58.239
Yes, I felt like he was
going with like a Mordecai gimmick there for

721
00:48:58.280 --> 00:49:02.679
a little bit for those remember Mordecai
in the early two thousands. Nonetheless,

722
00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:07.559
World's End December thirty. I honestly
have no idea if Doctor Tray and I

723
00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:10.760
could actually preview and predict that podcast
yet, because we usually take off like

724
00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:15.719
the final three week time frame around
the holidays. We'll see what we can

725
00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:17.159
do here, folks. It's like, hey, let's throw in a paper

726
00:49:17.159 --> 00:49:20.800
for you during the holidays. Here, I'm just saying, it depends on

727
00:49:20.840 --> 00:49:23.840
how far behind I am in the
prediction. True, true, Yeah,

728
00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:28.039
who never knows. You never know. I could be as well, and

729
00:49:28.079 --> 00:49:29.719
all of a sudden we're recovering it. It's like, hey, man,

730
00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:34.519
what are you doing today? It's
Christmas? Let's record. Nonetheless, there

731
00:49:34.559 --> 00:49:37.320
you go. That is this week's
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732
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