Feb. 15, 2024

WWE reverses course on Roman vs. Cody | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #731 – 2/15/24

WWE reverses course on Roman vs. Cody | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #731 – 2/15/24

On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:

- -- Roman Reigns vs. Cody Rhodes is back on for WrestleMania 40 and The Rock is a heel now?
- -- Kazuchika Okada has reportedly made a decision!
-...

On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:

  • -- Roman Reigns vs. Cody Rhodes is back on for WrestleMania 40 and The Rock is a heel now?
  • -- Kazuchika Okada has reportedly made a decision!
  • -- Can Ospreay, Okada and Money signings turn AEW's momentum around?
  • -- And the WrestleMania 40 card roundup!

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It's still welcome, everybody. Welcome
to this week's edit in a Sin A

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Real Show, episode number seven or
thirty one for February fifteenth, twenty twenty

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four. Welcome to this week's edition
of ass R Team You. I am

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one after the show, I am
Jeff textor joined every single week from my

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car, so one only, Doctor
Tray Franklin, Doctor Trey, are you

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a Cody's crib where? Friend?
I don't think I've been. I don't

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think I've ever called somebody a cry
baby since sometime in the eighties. Okay,

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fair, not even your son,
not even young Sammy Franklin like,

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don't be cry baby. No,
we don't tell him crime baby. But

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I mean maybe if you're referencing the
when the Sweet Life of Zach and Cody

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got canceled, been a cry baby? Then fair, fair, very fair.

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You and I were talking a little
bit about it before the podcast,

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But I know our listeners are are
worried about you, Doctor Trey. Feelings

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thoughts four days after the Super Bowl
loss. Uh, I'm coping better than

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I thought I would. Uh did
you break a television? So? By

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way, so you know, you
and I discussed the entire season that like,

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if if the Niners are on TV, I typically don't watch the game

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because at like the Lions game,
every time I watched the game, the

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lines were scoring touchdowns. When I
watched the Packer game, every time watched

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the Packer game, the Packers were
scoring. I actually watched the entire game,

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so I sat through. I broke
my superstition. But no, no,

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you know, there was a little
bit, a couple of moments of

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anger and frustration, but I survived
and I play. It's kind of like,

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uh, I guess this is the
feeling when teams played Joe Montana in

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the eighties or Troyman in the nineties, or Tom Brady, where you just

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go, pretty sure he's gonna come
back and beat us, pretty sure it's

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gonna happen. And sure enough,
when the extra point got blocked, I'm

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like, and that's where we lose
the game, because I knew they tied

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and I knew the overtime would happen. So but I'm okay, like I

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told you off air as we record
the show, the Niners fired the defensive

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coordinator today, So that made me
happy because the guy was not a good

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fit. So and our quarterback looks
like he could be on the Sweet Life

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of Zack and Cody and fit in
with that cast because he looks like he's

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thirteen but a solid quarterback. See. I was wondering why the Niners lost.

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I thought it may have been that
third down stop by like Chris Jones

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breaking up the play there that led
to the field goal in overtime. But

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knowing that you watched the game now
tells me that's why the Niners lost exactly.

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So your superstition fucked it up for
everybody. Now. By the way,

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my wife thought it was her because
I think I told you the story,

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like the when the Cubs won the
World Series. I was in a

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hotel in Atlanta and she called me
during Game seven. The Cubs are winning

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and I literally told her, I
said, if they start losing, I

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have bang up on you. And
it was maybe ten minutes later the Indians

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hit that home run to take the
lead, and I hung up on them.

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So every time I've watched when the
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the Knighters were winning, she came
in the house, sat down on

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the bed next to me. She
scored twenty one straight. And then this

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year Nighters are winning she gets home
from work that time's a game. Happy

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Valentine's Day, honey. Yeah,
so I was like, well, I

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mean, at least like so for
Valentine's Day, I don't know what you

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got your wife, but I bought
my wife some chocolates. I bought her

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a stuffed animal, a pretty little
mushroom decorated planting vase in a vacuum.

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Because nothing says Valentine's Day married life
like buying your wife a vacuum. Yeah.

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Absolutely, that really gives you Browning
points. So happy post Valentine's Day

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at all? Who celebrated doctor Trey. We're thinking about you when it comes

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off the Super Bowl loss. But
I think it's easy to do. The

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podcast a couple of days later still
stings. But that is the life of

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a sports fan. Like I tell
everybody, like I'm my one of my

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favorite things I enjoy in life is
I watched something that like probably only maybe

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four or five times in my life. I'm gonna be happy by the end

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of it. Like imagine that.
Like when you say that out loud,

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it's like stupidity that we enjoy sports
that much. Yeah, I mean as

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a Cubs fan, I mean one
World Series in one hundred and seven years.

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I got spoiled by the Niners because
growing up in the eighties they got

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they got five yeah, between eighty
one and ninety five, so we had

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five and fourteen years. So I
got spoiled there. But now we've lost

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three in a row. That kind
of sucks. But you know, and

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then like I'm a little bit a
Laker fan. Grew up Magic Johnson,

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so you got that. I get
that. So the Lakers are like for

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me, like kind of what you
are with the Yankees? I yep,

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Yankee? Well Yankees are I do. I'm from New York, so,

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uh doctor Trey not from Sunny La. But back then, like you didn't

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have many teams. You didn't have
a team that you grew up with,

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right, No, like in Oklahoma, Like I was born Oklahoma, so

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I was a kid when you right, you just waited for the thunder to

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come. Yeah, which, ironically
enough, I always had a weird thing

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for the Sonics to Hey, I
love Seattle super Sonics and they are featured

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slightly in the movie Fletch. And
there's another one too. I can't remember

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which one it was, but uh
no, But like I just kind of

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bonded with whatever I saw on TV, which was I saw the Cubs on

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WGN. Uh. It was always
Lakers and Celtics and Magic Johnson was a

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cooler name than Larry Bird, so
bonded with the Lakers. And then Dad

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grew up in Rino, which is
the you know, basically the Bay Area's

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step brother. So he was an
Irish fan, so I became an Irish

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fan. So that's just kind of
And I was oddly enough Wayne Gretzky,

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so my allegiance and hockey bound from
the Oilers to the Kings to the Saint

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Bluis Blues and the Rangers and the
same Less Blues for like one season,

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so yeah, that was like half
a season he was there. Yeah,

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so my hockey fano was all over
the place. But my time in North

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Carolina and the linkage to Connecticut is
I'm a fan of the Carolina Hurricanes,

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the former Hartford Whalers. Yeah that
is true. And what about Duke Blue

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Devils is that you two? No, So when it comes to Carolina,

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like I'm a Carrol, I'm a
UNC fan. I tried, Oh that's

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right, and I did, but
end up going to Carolina. Although I

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was at the people I stayed with
my freshman year high school were big Duke

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Blue Devil fans, So when they
won the national championship year that year that

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was the Christian Lagner, Bobby Hurley, Grant Hill team. I actually got

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to go to the welcome home reception
for the Blue Devils and got to meet

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Grant Hill when I was like,
I think I was like thirteen, fourteen

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years old, got to meet Grant
Hill. Doctor Try also had a flat

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top like Grant Hill at that time. Yeah, it was badass. So

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a little bit of pulse checked thereon
our one and only Doctor Trey, who

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I was feeling for on Sunday,
waited like a couple of days to actually

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be like, hey, when do
you want to record the podcast this week?

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Because I know what that's like,
like losing a major game and it

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just absolutely sucks, and usually I'm
probably pissed off for about twenty four to

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forty eight hours afterwards. But Dutch
Tray, we feel for you. And

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I don't think that there's anything else
I could say because it's like, oh,

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well you get them next year like
that. It's a bullshit phrase.

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Let's be frank, like you never
know like if your teams are gonna be

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back there again. Yeah, And
I did kind of the same thing I've

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done with everything, Like I just
kind of stayed away from like social media

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and ESPN and all that stuff for
like three days, Like today was really

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outside of posting a picture showing the
weight loss that I've undergone over the last

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few years, but like just stayed
away from all night like anything football sports

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related for like three days to let
all the pundits tell everybody how horrible the

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Nighters played and what a horrible team
they were, Like, let Auso die

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down and pitchers and catchers reported to
spring training today. So boom turns around.

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Baseball is up and going. I'm
back to be happy again. Yeah.

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So, yep, it is baseball
season. It's wrestle Mania season.

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NFL season. We hardly knew thee
we will miss. You can't wait for

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September again. The longest offseason of
all the sports absolutely sucks, but it

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always always goes back around pretty quick. So there you go. Another NFL

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season the books and we steam forward
here to WrestleMania season. Doctor Trey,

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we talked about on last week's show, what is WWW going to do at

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that point in time, we felt
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of Cody Rhodes in the WRESTLEMANI forty
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They held the kickoff event the same
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dropping, we were figuring that there
may be some changes for the resumating card,

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and there is. There are some
massive changes as Roman Reigns versus Cody

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Roads is back on for resuming forty. But the biggest shock, one of

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the things that we really didn't talk
about is a scenario here the Rock is

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a heel now Doctor Trey. So
what did you think of everything that played

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out that got us from what we
thought was Cody Rhoads versus Roman two,

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then to Roman versus Rock one,
to we Want Cody to Cody versus Roman

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two back on, and The Rock
slapping Cody in the face in a very

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entertaining one hour special on Peacock this
past week. Yeah, I mean it

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was an entertaining special. One of
the things we talked about last week was

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how do you fix it? And
I said, somehow you have to make

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this whole scenario feel personal to get
people to care and really buy into it,

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and they at least did that,
They at least made it feel personally.

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They brought the families up and then
like when you saw the Rock in

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Roman, like do the uh,
the over the top double hands, you

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have the handshake pose where you're both
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I was like, well, this
is weird because there's no animosity,

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Like how do you build an angle
out of this? And they did a

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good job. They had Cody come
out of the whole nine yards. It

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made sense on that level. I
still don't think they've really answered what the

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hell Cody was doing in the ring
a couple weeks ago when he brought the

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Rock out like that still hasn't been
clarified really to me at this point.

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But I think the Rock doing the
the Cody Krai baby thing is helping him

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get over as a heel because he's
basically pissing off those the quote unquote diehard

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Mark fans or whatever you want to
call him. So I think they've done

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a decent job in this so far, and it'll be interesting how they build

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this out, you know, going
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you do with the Rock, right
now if you have them kind of on

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board for WrestleMania. Right now,
the Rock is a heel. We quickly

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forget how damn good he is when
he gets on that mic working as a

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heel. To me, Doctor Trey, I think the scenario that is playing

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out in front of us is that
this heel turn is going to be very

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short lived. I just have this
feeling that Rock prevents the bloodline getting involved

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somehow at Wrestling Forty turns on Roman
leads to a Cody title change, and

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that's the first step of taking everything
away from Roman reigns, which makes sense

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from storyline standpoint. Cody takes the
title and then that leads us to Roman

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versus Rock, something that people at
that point will probably want to see for

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the Battle of the Head of the
Table. That's my vibe right now.

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That's the pivot I think WW is
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is that the end goal is still
to get to Roman versus Rock at some

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point. Yeah, but when like
so my question to you then, like,

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I mean, I think that scenario
it'll play out. I just don't

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know if it's a short term or
a long term thing, because I can

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see them doing Rock and Roman,
you know, because you saw it a

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little bit during that promo, like
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Roman, and I can see that, you know, eventually being a clash

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of egos there as well. But
like, do you do that at Summer

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Slam, because you're gonna do it
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You're either gonna do it a Summer
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one, Like when do you pull
the trigger? And have they announced for

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forty one that yet? Is it
Minneapolis? They have not yet. They

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have not announced where Summer Slam's at
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and I think it all comes down
to, obviously the Rock schedule. Yeah,

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Rock is definitely wrestling in Philadelphia.
I have some ideas about that.

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We'll go through our wrestlmingting a forty
card round up here later on the podcast,

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but I think it's short term.
It could happen by SummerSlam a Rock

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Roman match, should there be some
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the setup. It could be as
far out as wrestling he forty one.

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That is the Rock's goal for coming
back, and I know we were talking

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last week that he gets like a
thirty million dollars payout or something like that,

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which is definitely motivating by far motivating, But I think what really brought

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him back to the table outside of
joining the Board of Directors, was to

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eventually get to this match. I
mean, that is the match that we've

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been talking about since Roman turned heel
in August twenty twenty. It made a

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lot of sense the minute that they
started talking about head of the table,

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tribal chief, head of the family. I put food on the plates of

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my family members, I represent the
Annawani family like that. Everything was pointing

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to an eventual showdown to Roman versus
the Rock. So if we never get

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that, that'll be one of the
most tragic matches that never took place in

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wrestling history. So it ultimately gets
there. But wwe the Rock, Roman,

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Cody, whoever creative TKO They read
the room and realize the fans don't

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want to see this right now.
The fans want to see Cody versus Roman.

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Two, how do we pivot away
from this? I hear you doctor

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Trey about the Friday Night SmackDown segment
where you know Cody bowed out and let

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the Rock come back and acting as
a baby phase and then less than a

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week later he's acting as a full
blown heel. It doesn't really make sense

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if you truly look at Rock from
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took over Cody Spot, at that
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they did last Thursday. None of
it drives together. None of it makes

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sense. And the only thing that
makes sense is that WWE did the right

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thing by pivoting creatively and realize well, we can't go this direction. We

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have to go this direction now.
And that's the thing. I think those

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two segments, Unfortunately, Doctor Trey, the day one and that SmackDown where

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he took Cody Spot is going to
be forgotten about ultimately in this story,

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and the true storyline started at the
kickoff event, which you know, Wwey's

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put themselves in a very weird spot. This all could have been saved had

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the Rock perform at the Rumble and
won that match, but he didn't Cody

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did. I mean, maybe this
was the long term plan ultimately for a

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revolt that they predicted and have this
play out like it has. I just

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get the vibe that that isn't the
case based on the two previous times Rock

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appeared on WE Television twenty twenty four
versus the one time he appeared at the

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kickoff special and what we expect will
take place tomorrow night on SmackDown. Yeah,

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you know, because you saw the
Rock on Pat mcafe's show, and

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one of the things he had said
on there was like, you know,

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let me the story builder, the
long term builder, like take you all

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on a trip, and so I
could see them. This could kind of

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reinvigorate the bloodline storyline in a sense
where you know, Rock, you know,

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Cody beats Roman, Rock, you
know, is there to kind of

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pump Roman back up to regain the
title, but the entire time like Roman's

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blaming Rock for his loss, and
then that eventually leads to Roman solo and

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Jimmy turning on the Rock and then
the Rocks now at baby Face heading into

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the Summer Slam Horror WrestleMania, and
it played out. My only concerns about

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this would be, then does that
storyline then overshadow Cody winning the title,

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because Cody winning the title should make
him the top draw. But then if

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you have that storyline playing out in
the background, he's gonna be kind of

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overshadowed during his initial you know,
title run. So but it also reinvigorates

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one of the storylines that you said
that you and I said last week had

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kind of fallen flat over the past
year or past at least the past six

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months, which is the stuff with
the bloodline. If you can play this

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out well enough, I mean,
heck, that's what I say, Like,

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we could really get you know,
Roman and Solo against Sena and Rock

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at some point that would be musty
team because we had Solo did you destroy

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excuse me, destroyed John Seena just
a couple months ago, where we thought

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seen it might be retired. But
I mean that's a money match to draw

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off of and then you know,
play that all at to WrestleMania. So

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there are ways to play with this, but you know, until we get

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some more depth to the storyline,
like right now, it just it's interesting,

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but it's still like the wonkiness of
how we got from day one to

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hear is still fresh in our minds
and we're just like, wait, so

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we're mad that Cody's upset that you
know, Roman made fun of his dad.

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So Cody comes after your grandpa,
but now the Rocks matic Cody for

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says about the grandpa like it's like, but you know, you guys did

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it for It's just a little bit
like, you know, tedious to get

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to where we want to get to
right now. So to the point that

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you said there about like taking away
Cody's moment, I totally agree with you,

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and I thought this one out.
And the point I was trying to

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make earlier is say you've got Rocks
solo, We got Rock on the sidelines,

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got Solo out there. Hayman obviously
Roman versus Cody. Maybe Seth is

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out there as well. I think
the point where a referee goes down and

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solosukoas tries to interfere, the Rock
stops him. Rock doesn't have to hit

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Roman with a rock bottom people's elbow, what have you. He takes out

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Solo and prevents it and kind of
does that thing of like all right,

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go finish your story to Cody Rhodes
and then allows Cody to hit you know,

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a couple crossroads, three of them, you know, a little hat

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tip to resume a thirty nine,
and that's the one, two three,

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and Rock bows out to let Cody
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that play out. If they did
something where like Roman hits excuse me,

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Rock hits Roman with a rock bottom
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or Cody hits him with a crossroads. They don't want two to three

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after the rock bottom of People's elbow, then yeah, that's going to be

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a really shitty finish and should not
be the way that takes place. I

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would hope that if they are making
a title change a resume any forty,

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they go the direction of Rock preventing
Solo from interfering while not interfering per se

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in the actual match. No,
and that I agree with. I mean,

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but like my thing was, if
this if something because for what I

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Ozzie, don't think the Rocks can
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is because Rod just slap Cody's Unless
they make peace between now and then,

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it's gonna be kind of weird for
Rock to now all of a sudden,

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you go, Okay, I second
thought, I'm not mad at you about

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what you said about my grandpa,
so I'm gonna help you. I can

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see them doing it. I mean, he didn't say so to that point,

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right, like everybody's pointing, so
I don't interrupt you. So everybody's

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pointing that point where they talk about
Roman's grandfather and Rock's grandfather. If you

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go back to that clip, Cody
doesn't say that Roman and Rock he would

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be they would be ashamed of them. He only says that to Roman Reigns.

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He does not say that to the
Rock at all. But the Rocks

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the one who stepped up to defend
Roman in that instance where like, if

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you're talking about his grandfather, you're
talking about my grandfather as well. So

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that's where I would think storyline stamp
and that's where Rock flipped, right.

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So the things I didn't that I
think when it comes to this storyline,

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so that we have to like delete
that Friday Night SmackDown appearance in Birmingham,

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Alabama where he took over Cody Spot. I really think that that is like

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the thing that all of us wrestling
fans have to unfortunately delete because it's like,

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Okay, this is where shit went
wrong in the storyline, and you

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got to look at everything forward because
at that point there was nothing as the

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way that the kickoff build up and
he's going on and talking about their bloodline

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and their family tree and that this
is going to be the biggest WrestleMania match

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of all time and maybe this is
elaborated more on Friday SmackDown. So I

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should, I guess, be cautiously
optimistic on the direction. It's because I

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think you bring up a good point, Doctor Trey, that that Friday and

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even the day one, it's like
none of it really makes sense at this

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point. But maybe if they come
out from a storyline standpoint and Rock says

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that, like he tried to convince
Cody to give him this match with Roman

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to you know, celebrate their family
and have a tribal chief battle head of

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the table and showcase their blood as
the Royal family and professional wrestlinge It's something

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they've always wanted, Like they could
totally do that with that direction. But

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that is definitely the gap rate now
in this storyline as to why Rock was

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aiming for Roman, and then when
he's on the stage with Roman, he's

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kissing Roman's ass because the other thing
to this too is Roman is being chased

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down by Rock all in the month
of January, you know, does the

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crying emoji face and ignores the discussion
of the Rock when it's brought up to

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him shortly after day one. Why
the hell would Roman pick Rock as his

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opponent. Wouldn't he be dodging both
of them, like he's a heel?

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Like why are you picking it?
So that is a major gap in the

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story, Doctor Trey, that I
hope, and I'm hopeful that the way

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the creative been that they will address
this. But I'm hopeful that they do

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address this, at least the earliest
being this Friday SmackDown, being that Roman

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and Rock will both be there.
Yeah, But what I meant by overshadowing

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is, let's say Cody wins and
it's a somewhat clean victory. Cody's now

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you've even a world champion, But
at some point you're still gonna want Roman

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and Rock to come to blows.
And to me, that's going to be

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a bigger story than Cody defending against
Carry and Cross, you know, or

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Bobby Lashley or somebody else like it. Like that storyline of Roman and Rock

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is going to overshadow the title run
that Cody has, you know, coming

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out of WrestleMania. So that's you
think, So I think they can do

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I think they could do it.
Properly, I truly do. I just

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wonder. I mean, if they're
both kind of part time, which I

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kind of expect Rock and Roman to
still kind of have the same kind of

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schedule Romans had, like they can. I'm hoping they can pull it off,

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but I still think that Bloodlines will
still be the focal point of s

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backdown, especially if you're gonna have
Roman and Rock, you know, leading

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to an eventual match. It should
be it. Really, I know people

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don't want to hear that. Listen, like you can give Cody the flowers.

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There's two major blockbuster things that could
come out of this. Cody went

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in the title, finishing the story, starting that run as maybe the next

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iteration of John c in a Roman
reigns Cody Rhodes as the face of w

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WE. Then the second one is
Rock versus Roman, because that is,

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whether fans like to admit it or
not, that is a blockbuster. I

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mean, Rock transcends pop culture.
Everybody knows who Dwayne the Rock Johnson is.

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Literally everybody. This is a guy
whose name is on the lips of

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people in twenty twenty four to run
for freaking president of the United States,

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and it isn't like a joke.
It's legitimate. I mean, he is

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a pop culture icon. It was. It was a focal point of the

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show, Young Rock, Yes,
what's him running for president? For Grind

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Out Loud, which also gave us
the hints to this match. So the

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other thing I was, what you
know, Like I said, you could

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do like at some point, you
can do Roman and Solo against Scena and

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in Rock, but hell, what
if you know Roman? You know,

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Roman's about reagae or coding, gets
hit the crossroads, Rock jumps up on

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the apron and ear fear and Sina
pulls Rock off the apron. We're bringing

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scene into this now. I'm saying, like you could make a lot of

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stuff out of this. I would
remove the Scena factor out of this because

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I don't think he's I don't think
he's going to be around. Yeah,

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I mean, well, I mean
if it's a one off type match type

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situation, but I would take that. So to your point right about like

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focusing on part timers, I would
do Rock and Cody as a tag team

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versus Roman and Solo. And maybe
that's something they do with Saudi Arabia following

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WrestleMania or where are they going backlash
in France, I think is the one

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right after that. So I think
you do that there as well. I

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think I think you do Roman,
Roman and Rock against Seth and Cody at

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that point. Well, I think
there's a little bit well that that's we'll

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get a wrestlem in forty car round
up here in a little bit, uh,

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doctor try Ultimately, did who we
make the right decision with what we

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saw took place about a week ago? I mean for the fans, yes,

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For business, I'd say probably not, because, like like you just

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said, and something I said earlier
as well, Rock and Roman is still

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the bigger money match than Rock and
Cody because, like you said, everybody

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knows who the Rock is, not
everybody knows who Cody Rose is yet.

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So do you think the majority of
the fans didn't want to see Rock and

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Roman or was that like a silent
majority that was making I think the majority

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of the diehard, like the everyday
fan, the people who watch ros SmackDown

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and every pl on Peacock they have, I think they wanted Rock in Cody

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obviously be a Roman and Cody.
But if you're trying to draw back in

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some of those fans from I would
say the attitude Air or anybody who's a

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fan of the rock Rock and Roman
is going to draw more of those people

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in than Cody and Roman. I
agree with you. I agree because the

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Diamard fans are gonna watch WrestleMania,
where whether it's Roman and Rock or Cody

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in Roman, it doesn't matter.
I think we were entering a very dangerous

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zone if they did not do Cody
versus Roman, Doctor Trey, I think

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it would it would be very hard
to turn that crowd back over because I

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didn't want to see Cody versus Seth
with all due respect, no, I

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mean we've seen it three times in
the last year and a half, two

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years. Yeah, I didn't want
to see that again. No, And

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honestly, like, I think this
is the right move for the long term

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success of WWE. But if you're
saying, like, what would draw more

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people to Peacock, it would still
be Rock and Roman. I think we

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ultimately get there. There's a little
bit more potential storyline behind this rather than

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like, you know, we're cousins, tribal chief, head of the table

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type stuff. So interesting times.
I'm excited to see where things go on

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Friday Smackden, you're gonna say something, Doctor Troy, I just remind me

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the song of their Cousins, their
identical cousins. I don't know, so

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sorry, it just had flashback moments. That's that old TV show. I

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remember the song. I don't even
know what you're talking about. I gotta

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be honest. I have to see
where that is later on. Uh switching

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gears to AW. We'll get back
to w towards the end of the show.

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Major update on Kozitska Okada's future.
According to Fight Full select H,

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Kazitska Okada is headed toward to AEW. He will be joining the AW roster

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and has made his decision. Doctor
Trey, I gotta be honest, I'm

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not shocked nor surprised by this,
but I am disappointed because this we've seen

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Okada in AAW. The expectation is
Okada would go to AAW. I wanted

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to see something different, and I
wanted to see Okada in WWE and wanted

400
00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:48.279
to see how WWI adapted to Okada
on their roster. And Uh, I

401
00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:52.400
feel like this is I don't know, a decision, to be honest with

402
00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:56.039
you, Yeah, I think it's
the safe decision. For Ocada, like

403
00:27:56.079 --> 00:28:00.880
he knows the environment, he knows
the people who are there. I know

404
00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:03.480
they get you know, I saw
people saying, well, aw' is better

405
00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:08.039
for you know, the New Japan
wrestlers than WW is. Look how bad

406
00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:12.400
they booked w's book people in the
past, And I'm like, some O

407
00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:15.519
there days, like when was the
last time a guy on New Japan actually

408
00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:21.480
want to match? Like you know, Suzuki Ishi, you know, anybody

409
00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:26.599
else's come in the times they've had
Tanahashi come in, Like nobody really from

410
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:30.960
New Japan has really won a match. So is it really a better place

411
00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:34.000
for New Japan wrestlers to go.
I know they like the style, they

412
00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:37.759
like the environment, they like the
people they work with, but is it

413
00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:41.319
really any better for the success of
your career working at AW than say,

414
00:28:41.319 --> 00:28:45.200
at w W and taking a chance
on that level? So I think the

415
00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:52.359
Okata character would have actually done really
well in WW. But I just think

416
00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:59.079
that, you know, for financial
reo for the he's gonna get paid well

417
00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:03.480
either way he goes. AW shows
are a little bit easier on wrestlers.

418
00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:07.519
They don't have the house show loop
and all those are things that WWE runs

419
00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:11.759
as intensely as w E runs.
So I think it's probably better Mane for

420
00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:15.920
the long term career of Okada to
go AW, but I think for character

421
00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:21.799
and just brand awareness, WW would
have been a better choice. I disagree

422
00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:22.880
a little bit, but I don't
know what you're coming from. In regards

423
00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:26.559
to the Japanese wrestler, I would
say, I know the triple h umbrella

424
00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:30.559
right now, shitz ky Nakamura,
Eo, sky Osca. I think it's

425
00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:34.079
Kyrie saying blossomed right now in their
creative direction. I agree. I'm just

426
00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:38.240
saying, like the perception of what
WS that has done up until recently,

427
00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:42.519
but the perception of years past,
like how bad you know Kenta or even

428
00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:45.160
you know, people complain about Shin's
case booking for a number of years,

429
00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:51.079
anything under the Vince Rahim you know, was always labeled as bad for Japanese

430
00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:55.039
wrestler. Triple Ah. He's done
a much better job of elevating those those

431
00:29:55.079 --> 00:30:03.000
stars than Vince ever did. Absolutely
totally agree with that. It's I feel

432
00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:07.400
like AW is like new Japan Pro
Wrestling US, almost like it's New Japan

433
00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:11.359
strong without being New Japan strong.
It was a very safe bet for Okada

434
00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:15.480
He's reportedly going to be making more
money working less dates, which is obviously

435
00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:18.599
appealing, not gonna be doing the
house short tours, the major loops that

436
00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:23.440
WWE does more wear and tear in
your body. WWE was banking on him

437
00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:27.640
wanting a WrestleMania moment, which Okada
reportedly wants to have at some point in

438
00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:30.559
his career. I don't necessarily know
if that will ever happen now, because

439
00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:37.759
it's still his prime and that window
closes pretty sometimes pretty rapidly in professional wrestling.

440
00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:41.640
It was a safe bet. We've
seed Ocada performing in aw Ocada is

441
00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:47.720
performing with guys that he tore up
New Japan with from twenty sixteen to twenty

442
00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:52.759
eighteen, and Omega the Bucks,
Jay White, what have you so's.

443
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:56.359
It's becoming more and more New Japan
pro wrestling in the United States, which

444
00:30:56.400 --> 00:31:00.799
is exciting exciting for the die hard
wrestling fans. I don't know how that

445
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:07.400
really transcends for wrestling fans who don't
follow New Japan or may not know who

446
00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:11.000
Kazitsko Kada is outside of maybe a
couple clips that they see on YouTube or

447
00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:17.559
on X what have you. But
safe bet not shocked, not surprised expected

448
00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:22.440
this to happen, but kind of
disappointed, to be honest, because we've

449
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:27.319
seen a lot of new signings for
AAW not really blossom and take off as

450
00:31:27.400 --> 00:31:33.480
much as we'd like to think about
Adam Copeland coming to AW, and I'm

451
00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:38.279
a huge Adam Copeland fan and sometimes
maybe even pretty recently, he's gotten lost

452
00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:45.160
in the shuffle in AAW and it's
been kind of a mediocre debut for him

453
00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:48.880
in AW, which is kind of
surprising in all honesty. So Ocott has

454
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:52.160
made a decision he is All Elite
or we expect him to be All lead.

455
00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:56.960
The company's not come out and said
that in and confirm the reports,

456
00:31:56.319 --> 00:32:00.720
but that appears to be the direction
that he is going. We'll be signing

457
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:04.440
with All Elite Wrestling. So with
that said, Doctor Trey. Can these

458
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:09.799
most recent major signings that are coming
to All Elite Wrestling will Osprey reportedly,

459
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:19.559
Mercedes Monet, reportedly, Kazisko Kata. Can they help aw's momentum turnaround?

460
00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:24.359
There has been a slow build of
momentum in twenty twenty four for All Elite

461
00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:30.200
Wrestling. Lately, Dynamite Collision have
been solid shows, more solid shows as

462
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:36.160
of late. Overall, I still
feel like AW is a couple steps behind

463
00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:39.960
WWE. I don't think it's anywhere
near the AAW run that they had from

464
00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:45.079
twenty nineteen when they debuted twenty twenty
one. I've talked about on the show

465
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:49.160
that there are times I feel like
AW can almost be unwatchable and you can

466
00:32:49.240 --> 00:32:52.359
just get caught up by following them
on YouTube or on Twitter or read the

467
00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:59.119
results. But can these upcoming signings
You got to figure in this window,

468
00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:04.039
It's very well possible. We're recording
this Wednesday night that Ospray has debuted finally

469
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:07.119
in AW. Now that is new
Japan Pro Wrestling commitments are wrapping up.

470
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:09.640
We expect from Mercedes Mona to debut
a month from now. At the AW

471
00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:14.640
big business have to figure Okada is
on his way at some point as well,

472
00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:19.240
So in the next four to six
weeks Ospray Okada money could be major

473
00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:22.839
signings added to the AW roster.
Can they turn their company's momentum around.

474
00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:28.519
I mean, I think they can
help steer it in the right direction,

475
00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:36.240
But once again, I don't know
if Ospray and Okada moved the needle for

476
00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:40.839
the casual average fans like India,
because like the fans that don't follow New

477
00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:45.000
Japan, that don't really know who
those guys are. I don't know if

478
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:50.000
those two signings move the needle as
much on the AW side as they would

479
00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:52.559
maybe if they had gone to and
I don't even know if they would move

480
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:55.000
the needle right away in WWE,
but it would just be a better platform.

481
00:33:55.039 --> 00:34:00.000
I think the biggest issue that AW
has is that sometimes I feel like

482
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:05.160
the show is rudderless, Like I
don't really know if they know which direction

483
00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:08.880
they're going. I think the Mercedes
Monet signing will help because she's probably a

484
00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:14.239
little bit better known in the US
than the other two. But once again,

485
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:19.320
they're going to have to re establish
that brand of Mercedes mode to an

486
00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:22.400
American audience who may not know who
she is. They may hear to name

487
00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:24.719
Mercedes Monami, like I got to
google who that is and then find out

488
00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:30.199
that it was the wrestler formally known
as Sasha Banks. To really also increase

489
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:35.440
the viewership, because as much as
we love AW and the signings they've done

490
00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:38.599
and the people they brought in,
the ratings really haven't moved all that much

491
00:34:38.760 --> 00:34:43.599
over the last year, and one
of the things in business is if you

492
00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:49.199
don't grow, you die. So
their roster's growing, but I don't know

493
00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:52.159
really if anybody they've brought in recently
has helped actually move the needle and attract

494
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:57.519
more viewership to their programs. Well, the ratings are down, attendance is

495
00:34:57.559 --> 00:35:01.000
down. I think even after the
it's been a Mercedes Bonet or the Big

496
00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:05.599
Business Show in Boston. I think
Meltzer reported that only five thousand tickets have

497
00:35:05.679 --> 00:35:08.440
been sold for TD Garden, and
that's an arena that holds like sixteen seventeen

498
00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:12.519
thousand. I would assume I don't
have the actual numbers in front of me,

499
00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:15.559
but the attendance wills are very visible
on television. You see the photos

500
00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:21.079
on Twitter or x what have you
like. We all talk about how red

501
00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:24.000
hot professional wrestling is and I totally
get it, but the ratings, viewership

502
00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:28.480
and attends for all EIT wrestling is
not correlating to it. I mean,

503
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:30.760
it's extremely noticeable, Doctor Trey,
I don't know what it is like.

504
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:37.079
Twenty twenty three was an OK year
for AW, but I don't know if

505
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:39.840
they've lost the goodwill that they once
had. I don't know if Tony Kahn

506
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:44.360
has upsetted people. The direction of
creative upseted people. I don't know,

507
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:50.880
see him punk the way he was
fired upsetted people. It's noticeable. And

508
00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:54.440
like I said, as a wrestling
fan, I've noticed in the last since

509
00:35:54.480 --> 00:35:59.039
the start of the year that AW
has definitely been better. But you go

510
00:35:59.159 --> 00:36:01.639
back to that show World's End,
that was not a great pay per view

511
00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:07.079
event that they aired. Dynamite and
Collision have been nice. I saw someone

512
00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:12.960
tweet out like Collision is like a
nice warm jacket that you put on after

513
00:36:13.039 --> 00:36:15.440
all the craziness in the world.
And that's that's true, But it's nothing

514
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:19.360
where I sit there and I get
really excited about like I used to with

515
00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:24.079
Dynamite in the past. I don't
know. I just feel like there is

516
00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:29.639
no momentum for AW right now,
and the momentum solely sits with the diehards

517
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:35.599
like you and I. How do
you feel about AW programming lately? I

518
00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:37.320
think for me, like so one
of the things I used to always love

519
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:43.960
about WWE or and I'm just gonna
and I'm relating this television in general,

520
00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:45.920
like you, we saw the show
I grew up watching Days of my lines.

521
00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:52.719
I grew up watching soap operas with
my grandma. I could miss a

522
00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:55.960
month of programming, two months of
programming, jump back in, and the

523
00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:01.440
characters are still the same, kind
of feels the same, like the rivalries

524
00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:05.639
of change, but you kind of
know who everybody is. I don't know

525
00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:07.800
about you both aw like you know
and now all of a sudden, Swerve

526
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:10.239
was about the hottest heel in the
company, and now all of a sudden,

527
00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:14.400
he's kind of going babyface, and
now hey man, Page is going

528
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:19.159
heal and the bucks are kind of
like it just feels like everybody kind of

529
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:22.679
wants to walk the middle line and
there's no defined roles. There's also no

530
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:28.360
defined pecking order to AW. It
kind of feels like everything's just kind of

531
00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:32.920
jumbled and just it's just it feels
very very random at times, like it's

532
00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:37.760
if you miss a month, you're
like, damn, wait, I thought

533
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:38.199
he was a bad guy. I
thought he was a good guy. Wait

534
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:43.079
I thought these guys hated each other. Now the acclaimed in Bullet Club Gold

535
00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:45.320
or Besties, all of a sudden, like it's just kind of all over

536
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:52.360
the place and very knee jerkish at
times, which you need consistency in your

537
00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:55.639
programming, and I just don't feel
like they're very consistent. We don't there's

538
00:37:55.639 --> 00:38:00.000
not well established roles. There's not
well established like you know, you know,

539
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:04.280
if Randy Yorton's wrestling, he's going
to be in the top of the

540
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:07.800
card somewhere. He's not wrestling,
you know, the brand new guy they

541
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:10.599
just hired in that nobody knows the
name of the guy. They typically don't

542
00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:15.719
do that, like there's an established
system in place here. I just think

543
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:21.000
with AW they try to do a
lot of different things at once instead of

544
00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:25.480
just going, hey, let's do
this format and then adjust accordingly based on

545
00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:29.880
the responses of the fans. I
just think they're very knee jerks at times.

546
00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:34.239
Yeah, they're creative, is not
great overall, a lot of weird

547
00:38:34.360 --> 00:38:37.280
stop start pushes. Momentum for certain
wrestlers all of a sudden derails and then

548
00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:42.320
you don't see them on television for
a while. It's it's all very strange

549
00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:47.000
or storylines. You don't really care
about directions that move around. It's it's

550
00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:52.320
unfortunate in all honesty, and it's
been a very much of a roller coaster

551
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:57.719
ride following AW Creative since like late
twenty twenty two to now, and it's

552
00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:00.920
noticeable, and I think it's hurt
them in a long right. I get

553
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:05.480
and probably people aren't gonna like this, but I just get TNA vibes,

554
00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:08.519
Doctor Tryer. I truly do like
the way that their creative direction has gone,

555
00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:12.320
like twenty ten, DNA, this
is the vibes that I get.

556
00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:17.519
Yeah, like I said it,
it just feels like like they're trying.

557
00:39:17.639 --> 00:39:22.039
It's like when you're a boss and
you try to be nice to everybody,

558
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:23.519
even though even if people are taking
advantage of me, you just go,

559
00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:27.000
oh, okay, well I'll let
that slide. I'll let that slide.

560
00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:32.119
It just it doesn't feel like they
have a defined direction. And I don't

561
00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:34.840
know if you're going to bring up
on the show today, but I just

562
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:37.320
read article day where they just rehired
QT Marshall back into a vice president role.

563
00:39:37.960 --> 00:39:40.760
A guy who quit the company because
he said he didn't like the direction.

564
00:39:42.559 --> 00:39:45.960
They just hired him back. And
I'm like, well, do we

565
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:47.320
have a direction? Do we know? That's why I said like it's a

566
00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:51.960
rudderless ship. It just kind of
feels like it just goes with the currents

567
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:53.920
and instead of going, no,
this is what we're doing, this is

568
00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:57.840
where we're going, this is how
we get there. They don't have a

569
00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:01.159
process in place like WWE does,
which I think is what makes their creative

570
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:07.480
suffer because it just feels like there's
too many cooks trying to mix the ingredients

571
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:12.280
and the dish comes out all like
I don't really want to have a semin

572
00:40:12.360 --> 00:40:15.239
role on top of a hamburger,
and sometimes that's what it feels like they're

573
00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:19.079
doing. To be fair to AAW, I will also say that the injuries

574
00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:22.800
that they've had during major storylines has
not been something that's been good for them.

575
00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:28.440
Whether it be Kenny Omegan ganting tapeticulitis
or Adam Cole and MJF both getting

576
00:40:28.480 --> 00:40:31.519
hurt during their major storylines, they
always seem to get hit with the injury

577
00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:36.760
bug, which completely do rails any
creative momentum, which is something that they

578
00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:42.760
have obviously suffered with as well.
So Osprey Ocatta Monet could be all in

579
00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:45.559
AW by April first, will it
help turn the momentum around for the company.

580
00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:52.199
We shall see switching gears back to
We Doctor Trey to wrap up this

581
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:57.559
week's edition in the podcast, are
Weekly segment here when necessary. The resum

582
00:40:57.800 --> 00:41:01.480
forty card roundup last week said confirm
was EO Sky versus Bailey for the W

583
00:41:01.639 --> 00:41:07.639
Women's Championship. Confirm now Roman Reigns
defending the end speed a W Universal Championship

584
00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:09.920
for Cody against Cody Rhodes, which
we talked about at nauseum in the beginning

585
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:15.199
of the podcast. This week,
some rumored expected matches, and I'll go

586
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:17.320
through this and then you just tell
me, doctor Trey if you see it

587
00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:21.719
happening or not. This is how
I think the direction is going right now.

588
00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:25.280
L A. Knight versus AJ Styles. Yeah, I think that's where

589
00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:29.880
they're headed as well. Damien Priest
and Finn Valor versus The Miss and Our

590
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:37.199
Truth I hope. So, I
think that'd be really fun. I still

591
00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:38.920
I don't know they're going to do
a straight up one on one tag team

592
00:41:38.960 --> 00:41:45.960
match, but if if the caveat
is Damien Cash is in that night,

593
00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:47.840
like because I can see them.
I can see them putting the tag belts

594
00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:52.719
on Miss and Truth and then letting
Damien Cash in his briefcase that night.

595
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:55.440
Yeah, I could see that as
well. We talked about this as well

596
00:41:55.480 --> 00:42:01.519
on last week's podcast. Gunther and
Brown breaker ice title. M Yeah,

597
00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:06.039
I think that makes the most sense
to me, especially if the idea is

598
00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:09.960
Brawn's basically taking the Brock Wesner stuff, then it makes a ton of sense.

599
00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:15.440
There's no reason really to like sit
here and say whether or not these

600
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:17.480
matches are gonna happen, because they
are. Ree Ripley will take on the

601
00:42:17.480 --> 00:42:22.000
elimination Chamber winner in Perth Australia,
Seth Freaking Ronins will take on the elimination

602
00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:27.840
Chamber winner from Perth Australia as well, and then finally Doctor Trey. We

603
00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:30.599
talked about this a little bit.
Roman reigns in the Rock versus Cody Rhodes

604
00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:35.639
and Seth Freaking Rollins. I could
see it happening Night one, Night two

605
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:39.800
could be Roman versus Cody. Yeah, what if Roman somehow jumps in the

606
00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:45.159
elimination or be Rock jumps in the
elimination chamber match somehow. That'd be pretty

607
00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:47.719
cool. And then you get Rock
and you get Rock and Seth at WrestleMania

608
00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:52.639
a Roman and Cody both on Night
one, and then Night two or Night

609
00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:54.800
one you get the tag match of
Rock and Roman versus Seth and Cody the

610
00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:58.760
night two, you get the singles
matches. I think they're definitely doing something

611
00:42:58.800 --> 00:43:00.840
based off of what we saw for
the from the Kickoff Special and then when

612
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:05.280
you saw the trailer for WRESTLEMANI forty, I mean you got Cody and Seth

613
00:43:05.320 --> 00:43:07.400
face to face with Rock and Roman. They got to be doing something with

614
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:10.239
those four guys. Yeah, And
if you're not gonna do it in Australia,

615
00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:13.360
where else are you gonna do it? Between now? In WrestleMania.

616
00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:16.880
True? Well, I could see
it at WrestleMania. Yeah, that's what

617
00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:20.599
I'm saying, Like, you don't
if you don't put those four guys in

618
00:43:20.679 --> 00:43:23.199
the ring together at one time,
unless you do it at WrestleMania, you're

619
00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:27.679
not going you can't do Yeah.
I mean they just announced I don't know

620
00:43:27.679 --> 00:43:30.360
if you saw it or not,
but Grayson Waller he'll be doing the Grayson

621
00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:36.840
Waller Effect segment with Seth and Cody
during Elimination Chamber on in Perth, Australia,

622
00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:39.320
So that'll be taking place as well. I do think that will also

623
00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:44.039
end up tring into a tag match
of Cody and Seth versus Austin Theory and

624
00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:47.719
Waller in Australia interesting. Interesting,
Well, you think they have Seth Wressell.

625
00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:52.920
I mean, if Cody does most
of the work, I mean Seth

626
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:55.119
can still kind of move, But
I mean, are they end up just

627
00:43:55.119 --> 00:44:00.559
doing Cody and Waller in at the
Liberty Chamber and Perth possibly? Possibly.

628
00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:05.599
We will re predicting Elimination Chamber pl
E on next week's stch To the podcast,

629
00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:09.639
which will also be celebrating the fourteenth
anniversary of the Still Rialto show.

630
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So we're almost almost there to get
our driver's license, So stay tuned,

631
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:19.079
Doctor Trey. Those are my rumor
and expected matches. Anything that you're seeing

632
00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:22.760
on we television right now play out
that you could see taking place at WrestleMania.

633
00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:25.320
I still think we're gonna get some
kind of six man tag match with

634
00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:30.239
the Final Testament. I guess that's
their name, The Final Testament against.

635
00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:35.159
I think they're gonna be called the
Pride at one point, Bobby Lashley's three

636
00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:42.000
Profits and then Da Da Da.
There's one other one. I still don't

637
00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:45.000
know what they're gonna do with Bianca
and Jade. I'm torn on that one.

638
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:47.840
If they go head to head or
if they somehow put them in a

639
00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:52.760
tag madge against Oscar and Kyrie.
I think you gotta go ahead to head.

640
00:44:53.239 --> 00:44:57.719
I do, well, we're supposed
to find out because Jade's rumored to

641
00:44:57.719 --> 00:45:00.519
be part of Limission Chambers, so
we got to are getting some character development

642
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:05.039
between now and WrestleMania if you want
to be part of the show. Yeah,

643
00:45:05.159 --> 00:45:08.000
no, totally agree. So there's
been rumors that she would win the

644
00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:13.760
Last Chance Battle Royal for the elimination
Chamber match. She's not being advertised for

645
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:15.679
that match right now, but we
shall see. I believe they are taping

646
00:45:16.199 --> 00:45:21.000
two weeks of SmackDown this upcoming Friday, so we should have a better idea

647
00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:23.119
as they head to Australia obviously next
week. By the way, have they

648
00:45:23.159 --> 00:45:27.719
said if Shati's injury is serious or
not? Because she's supposed to be in

649
00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:31.519
the qualifying match. Yeah, what
did she take it on Tiffany Stratton?

650
00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:36.360
I think yeah, and that might
be like and I fully expected Stratton to

651
00:45:36.360 --> 00:45:37.360
get into chamber, but it's like, oh, well, could you pull

652
00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:43.000
Shatzi out, put Jaden Shazi spot
Let j be Tiffany than Tiffany win the

653
00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:45.280
Last Chance be pretty cool? That
would be pretty cool. No, we

654
00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:49.239
don't have any update there they're saying
it's a serious knee injury, and you

655
00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:52.519
just kind of fear for the worst
there, whether it be acl Meniscus.

656
00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:54.880
Got to figure that they're going to
be running some sort of angle with Shatzi

657
00:45:54.920 --> 00:46:00.159
on Friday SmackDown, because I mean, what do you the taping how that

658
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:05.559
all works out with everything from Friday
SmackDown to write her off of TV,

659
00:46:05.599 --> 00:46:09.239
which you gotta figure or maybe they
have her wrestle and just like get beat

660
00:46:09.360 --> 00:46:13.559
up behind the scenes and she,
you know, says I'm gonna go out

661
00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:19.519
there and wrestle, and then just
takes one best or prettiest moon solid ever

662
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:21.639
and that's at one, two three, just to do it. Because then

663
00:46:21.639 --> 00:46:25.320
you got to go carry over to
Tuesdays an XT which was taped and I

664
00:46:25.320 --> 00:46:29.639
guess go from there. So interesting
stuff there. And in regards to the

665
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:31.639
Shatzi way, they're going to be
handling this booking. But at least they

666
00:46:31.639 --> 00:46:35.320
have a couple of days to figure
that out. Doctor Try that's true.

667
00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:37.719
And the bad thing is, I
don't think she's really in a rival with

668
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:42.760
anybody on SmackDown anymore, because I
know she was with Bail a little bit

669
00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:46.320
with damage control and the Bailey things
kind of sidetracked that. So maybe you

670
00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:52.360
have EO takeout Shatzi, you know, backstage to prevent her from me in

671
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:54.519
that match, and then it still
carries over to NXT. That way,

672
00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:58.960
It's gonna be really interesting to see
how they do. Like when you tape

673
00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:00.920
stuff, but then you still have
a life show in the middle and something

674
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:04.039
like this happens. I mean,
it's very rare that it happens, but

675
00:47:04.920 --> 00:47:07.239
these are things you run into when
you start crossing people over from show to

676
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:10.880
show. These things can flare up. They certainly can. They certainly can.

677
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:14.960
So there you go. There's the
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week's edition of srt You. With
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