WWE Royal Rumble Preview, WWE Creative Flaws & Triple H’s Hall of Fame Moment! | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #781 – 01/30/25

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It's still real to me, damn it!

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What up, you!

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Welcome, everybody!

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Welcome to this week's edition of the Snow Realtows Show, episode number 781, for January 30th, 2025.

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This is your Royal Rumble preview and predictions edition of #ASRTU.

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I am one after the show.

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I am Jeff Peck, joined every single week of my course, Lonely Dr. Trey Franklin.

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Dr. Trey, are you ready for the road to WrestleMania 41, my friend?

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I mean, I had to hiccup in the road yesterday, but right now, actually, you say that I'm

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actually sitting in my car.

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So I don't know if there's anybody more ready for a road to WrestleMania than somebody

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doing a podcast about the road to WrestleMania while they're sitting in their car.

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The only thing that would be left is probably maybe, maybe like an acoustic guitar and riding

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a country song about being on the road.

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I mean, I could get either Johnny Cash or Willie Nelson to play softly in the background

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everywhere.

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I could throw some background music on and make this just a full shindig for a road to

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WrestleMania podcast.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Maybe something to think about as we get to the road to WrestleMania 41.

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Welcome one and all.

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Welcome to your Royal Rumble preview and predictions edition #ASRTU, the official road

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to WrestleMania 41 kicks off.

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Now here on the program, I'm excited.

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I'm stoked.

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We talk about it every year, Dr. Trey.

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This is obviously one of our favorite pay-per-views to watch.

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The men's and women's Royal Rumble matches is probably the most fun match to watch because

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it's like non-stop.

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Who's going to be the surprise entrance?

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Any surprise, eliminations?

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For a shadowing from WrestleMania 41 takes place in the match.

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You get to see some like dream matchups all in the span of those two matches.

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I'm very, very, very excited for this weekend, Dr. Trey.

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Yeah, I was excited, Evan.

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I was kind of playing with my WWE super card game.

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I don't know if you're familiar with this game, but it's going to be the interesting twist

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because I have no idea where you're going with this.

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Yeah, no.

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So this game, on there, it actually has a section for Royal Rumble predictions.

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And I'm like, okay, I'm picking my winner for the Rumble, picking my...

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And then I went, I only know two more matches on the card.

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I'm like, is there only two more matches on the card other than the Rumble because I think

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I'm forgetting something, but I'm like, I know the men's Rumble, the women's Rumble,

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the World title match with Cody and Kevin Nollins and the tag title match from SmackDown.

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I'm like, am I missing something because I feel like the Rumble used to have a lot more

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stuff going on in this year right now in top of my head.

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I can only think of four things.

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Yeah, I mean, this is the new age of WWE PLE's under the Triple H Air.

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It's the old takeover time stamp.

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And I want to say, Dr. Trey, that I think the last two Rumbles ran like this as well.

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There is only four announced matches, two of those being the men's and the women's

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Royal Rumble.

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You got to figure each one of those matches take probably like grand total start to finish.

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Maybe an hour and twenty minutes.

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Is that a safe estimate for each one of those?

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So they catch you to what, two hours and forty minutes?

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So yeah, I guess that makes sense because we're doing two out of three falls in the tag match.

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That's at least going to be at least twenty minutes.

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And you can get a lot of money.

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Cody and KO probably go about at least twenty to thirty minutes.

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So yeah, I mean, I guess in that scheme, that scope of things, it makes sense.

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But as much as I love the machine, it doesn't DIY, you could have just had a singles match

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and then add it in your US champion or your Intercontinental champion.

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Add one of the other mid card guys into this as well.

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But look, I can't argue with the success they've had.

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The last few pay per views, PLE's have been fantastic.

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So it does kind of put the focus more on the Rumble matches and less on the World title

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matches that we might have had in the past.

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So I was just looking here real quick, Rumble 2024 had four matches.

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The women's match itself went an hour and five minutes.

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That's not counting like the initial beginning and the beginning of it, the entrances.

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The men's went an hour, eight minutes and twenty five seconds.

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In 2023 they had five matches.

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Men's match went one hour, eleven minutes, forty seconds.

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Women's match went one hour, one minute, eight seconds.

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In 2022, which I think was the last of the Vince era per se, the Rumble had six matches

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and both Rumbles were under an hour.

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And if you remember correctly, Dr. Tray, that men's Rumble, which was won by Brock Lesnar,

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we absolutely cropped all over.

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Figure tibly, not literally.

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So it seems so we've gone six to five to four, four seems to be the sweet spot.

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But I'm fine with them having a good, I'm fine with the four matches because this will

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probably be a three hour, three and a half hour PLA, maybe close to four because those commercial

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breaks they run through during the live show is extremely long.

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So I'm fine with the Rumble matches getting a lot of time.

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I'm fine with the latter match getting a lot of time and I'm fine with the two out of

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three falls match getting a lot of time.

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Yeah, no, I am too.

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I just know like what you just had, shinsuke come back.

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Shinsuke's in the Rumble.

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He now sees in the Rumble.

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Yeah, I would have liked to see him get at least a little bit more one on one time to kind

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of sell the character a little more.

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But then again, I can't, I don't want people to say like for one, this DIY match versus

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the most of machine guns, two or three balls, like if it's anything like DIY and FTR

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was back in the days or you know, those Matt, those great tag matches from NXT, I'm going

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to end up loving it in which they could have been you know, five out of seven balls instead.

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No, I hear you.

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I like it.

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I think I've been a big proponent of like three hours is enough time for arresting pay

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preview nowadays.

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I'm fine with the big shows to get close to the four hour marks, the big four on the WWE

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side.

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I've absolutely crapped all over the AW pay previews being four hours every single time

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and the pre show being an hour and a half of matches as well.

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So we'll see how it plays out, but I am excited for the rumble here.

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Four matches on the card, we'll preview and predict each one of those matches later on

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the show.

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But I think what's the most important thing on this out of this all Dr. Tre, you got the

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men's rumble, women's rumble.

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Both matches to me, they are wide open and that is a good thing because you and I have sat

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here and we've correctly predicted at least one of the rumble matches each year, but it wasn't

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something where we felt totally confident in.

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It was something that over the, during the triple H reign, it's like I could see this person

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doing it, I could see this person also winning.

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I love, and it's been more on the men's side this year than the women's side.

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I love that there's an absolute crapshoot on who could potentially win this match.

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You've got CM Punk, you've got Seth Rollins, Logan Paul, John Cena, Roman Reigns.

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There is what at least maybe 10 people, less than 10 people that could at least win the rumble

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match?

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Yeah, I mean, here's the crazy thing.

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We're naming off the big name guys, but then y'all throw in like a Damien Priest, former

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heavyweight champion in this match.

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There's other guys that literally could be main eventing any other PLE.

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You're putting Jey Uso in in this match and he just had a main event, match, or serious

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main event.

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So, you got, this might be the deepest rumble we've had, the most star-studded rumble we've

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had.

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In a lot of ways, it is wide open.

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I don't know, I'm not going to spell my predictions yet, but for me, I kind of feel like,

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what does it say, do you want to do like a quick little game here?

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Because we got 15 men announced for the rumble.

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If I go through the names real quick, will you say, say yes or no, if they have a shot

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of winning the rumble, all right?

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So here we go.

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Yeah, we can do that.

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L.A.

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Night.

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No.

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John Cena.

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Yes.

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CM Punk.

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I'll say yes.

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Jey Uso.

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No.

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Roman Reigns.

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Yes.

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Seth Freakin' Rollins.

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Yes.

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Drew McIntyre.

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Alleen Yes.

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Ray Mysterio.

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No.

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Sammy Zane.

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No.

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Shinsuke Nakamura.

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No.

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Logan Paul.

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I'm in my heart.

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My brain says no, my heart says, yes, so I will lean no.

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Okay.

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Wow.

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Penta Chad Gable-Bron Breaker Carmelo Hayes would all be nose for me in any of those

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B.E.S.?

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I agree with you on all those as well.

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So you had five, the only ones I disagreed with you on, I think Jey Uso is a chance and I think

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Logan Paul is a chance.

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And that's seven out of the 15.

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Five out of 15 for you.

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I only reason.

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Which is good.

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Those are good numbers though.

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Yeah.

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My only, my only arguments for Jey Uso and Logan Paul is those are B.E.S.

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I would say like Jey Uso is a B plus main event guy and we're talking about WrestleMania.

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So that's why I have a little bit of a downgrade on J for this one.

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Logan's that weird one.

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We've heard them talk about Push Unitop.

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He has the social media following.

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I just, I don't see a good match up for him for the world title where it goes, oh my God,

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I have to see that match.

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So like I don't, yeah, Logan versus Cody or Logan versus Gunther does not scream WrestleMania

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and made a match up to me yet.

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So let's talk about it because I thought, I thought there was some foreshadowing on Mondays

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Raw.

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So you had CM Punk confronting Cody Rhodes to close Raw up until that point.

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I never thought that I would see that I was even considering Cody Rhodes or CM Punk, but

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I'm like, man, this promo is really good.

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Could there be a chance that they run with this for the next three months?

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And if they did, if it's anything like this, sign me up.

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The other one foreshadowing wise, Logan Paul confronting Gunther and Seth Rollins.

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I was like, man, we've heard some rumblings that they're thinking about Logan Paul versus

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Gunther at WrestleMania 41.

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That is not something I would be a fan of.

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I think most wrestling fans wouldn't be a fan of that.

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That would be something that would grab headlines from a pop culture standpoint, which

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WWE is obviously always chasing.

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But from the wrestling fan standpoint, I think all wrestling fans would love to see Gunther,

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you know, slap the crap out of Logan Paul literally.

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And then on the outskirts of this, you've got the Sami Zayn and Jey Uso quest to become

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a world champion stuff going on.

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I think Sami, he's fallen to that carrying cross storyline where it's like borderline

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dabbling into the evilness a little bit.

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And could they run with Sami winning the rumble and Kevin Owens shockingly defeats Cody

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Rhodes in the latter match?

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And those two guys go at it in a WrestleMania absolute wet dream match for Dr. Trey and

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I.

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And then, hey, we talked about it last week, show, would they pull a no way out 2004 Eddie

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Guerrero style with Jey Uso at the Saturday night's main event?

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It was a great match.

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It had those moments.

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They went with Gunther to retain Jey Uso falls in the outside.

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That's still on the fringe.

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He cut a promo with Quavo, which I know Dr. Trey is a big fan of and he was saying that he

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could beat Gunther and I think fans could get behind that.

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So I thought for the first time at any point in the WrestleMania 41 build, Royal Rumble build,

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we may have gotten some foreshadow in this past Monday night, Dr. Trey.

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Yeah, my favorite part of Logan Paul thing is when Seth and Gunther are face to face and

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Logan Paul's music hits and Seth goes, who is that?

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He didn't know Logan's music apparently.

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So, I mean, yeah, I think they like to kind of test the audience a little bit to kind of

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see how the audience feels about some of these teasers, just like dropping Easter eggs.

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Like, oh yeah, it's a little bit of foreshadowing.

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It's a little bit of like down the road stuff.

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It's also like, hey, let's test the waters with this to see how the fans respond on social

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media, on the interwebs, you know, on the message boards, you know, all of those things.

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But I think like when it comes to WrestleMania as much as you and I, like we try, like a lot

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of times we try to smart book these things and try to go, ooh, this would be a great match,

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this would be a great match.

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WrestleMania is still about the casual fans.

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It's the Super Bowl.

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I'm getting people to get your eyes on the product and typically don't watch the product.

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So, like as much as people love to see Gunther and Logan Paul, like Logan, or Gunther slapped

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the hell out of Logan Paul, it's still bad guy versus bad guy.

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And I think WrestleMania, they still try to stay more traditional.

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And hey, let's put Logan Paul in a good match with somebody who's a really big fan favorite.

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Like I'd be okay with Jay Luson Logan Paul or Sami Zayn in Logan Paul.

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Somebody that crowd really loves to beat the crap out of Logan Paul and vice versa.

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But when they tease in these baby face, baby face, heel versus heel matchups, they typically

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don't do them unless it's generational matchups like John Cena and the Rock.

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>> It's interesting.

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It's a really interesting rumble walking into here.

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It's a hard one to predict and that's exciting, but the men's rumble match has definitely

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got a better build than the women's.

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I feel like the women's rumble match is, I don't think the winner of the women's rumble

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match may have been on television in the square circle this past week, Dr. Trey.

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There's a couple folks coming back from injury or time away that I think could be knocking

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on that door.

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>> Yeah, I think it's for me the women's rumble is like two people and one hasn't been

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on TV in a year and one hasn't been on TV since Summer's slam.

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>> If you're thinking about a person with red hair, I think may time.

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>> May, yes, so somewhere in that window.

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Whenever, yeah, whenever she went away.

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But yeah, basically right when the other one got hurt or when, no, Priya got hurt.

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>> Oh, you're talking about Rhea, okay, I thought you were talking about.

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If you were mentioning the Queen Charlotte Flair, she got injured back in December 2023.

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in April and May.

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>> Well, she became champion, the one with the red hair and then wrestled, was it crown jewel,

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dropped the title to live?

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And then wrestled like the next night on Raw in a steel cage match?

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>> And then that's the last time we saw the person with red hair.

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>> Is it basically the two of the three last OG horse women in the company left?

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>> I don't know when we'll get back to this.

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So let's talk about it here with the women's because I think you and I are on the same wavelength

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here where things could be headed.

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If you go back about a month ago when you and I gave our WrestleMania card predictions

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for, excuse me earlier this month for the first show of the year, I was making a case for

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Tiffany Stratton to try to cash in the money of the bank briefcase, fail, then enter the

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rumble and win that match.

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Tiffany had like, is been positioned in a really good spot where the fans want to see her

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shine.

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we often praise them.

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I think WWE kind of messed up because if there was anybody, even anybody holding a championship

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right now because obviously Tiffany is one.

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I would say Tiffany Stratton right now.

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I would have said Liv Morgan, but I think Liv is getting out of the spotlight and heading

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towards the women's tag division.

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So I would have said Tiffany Stratton would be perfect for this one.

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Yeah, Tiffany, if the Bianca Jade stuff, if the Jade injury hadn't happened, I would have

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put Bianca in that list because she's been out of the World title picture for 18 months,

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roughly.

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And there's rumors about Bianca and Rio Ripley being a WrestleMania match right now.

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Yes, which I don't know how we get there.

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I mean, unless you say that, Rhea's the one who took out Jade and then be, I don't know,

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yeah, it's confusing.

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But like for me, really on paper because the women's division has had so much interaction

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between people like we've seen Rhea and Naya, you know, a couple times this year.

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We've seen Liv and Naya live in Rhea.

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Like the top of the card has interacted so much over this year that it doesn't feel like

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any of those people are strong enough to win because whoever, if you have one of the

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people that's been around for the entire year, win this match, we've already seen that

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match where if you have one of the two people who have been on TV in a while when this match,

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of themselves.

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Like it still, it feels fresher.

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So that's kind of why I'm leaning that way instead of going with something who's been

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very active on the roster the last 12 months.

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Yeah, I feel like the 2023 Cody Rhodes booking blueprint in the men's rumble is

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what we may see with the women's match.

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So we'll get to our preview predictions here later on, but again, Dr. Traa, the rumble match

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is to me.

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I think they're wide open and I think that's a really good thing.

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I want it to be unpredictable.

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I don't want it to be easily predictable.

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So I'm digging what's going on with the rumble matches headed into Saturday.

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Yeah, no, the men's side definitely feels more fresh and more wide open to the women's

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My only thing with the women's side is once again, it's going to be like who are the surprise

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entrance?

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You know, you saw Jordan Gray, who apparently has officially signed her WWE contract, but

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she's putting out that she won't be in town for it.

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And you know, you have a Mickey James possibility because Nick Aldis is already there.

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So you have some stuff where they really haven't played with it much.

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They're kind of keeping that side more, a little more secretive with the men's side.

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With all the possibilities that they're talking about with, you know, whether it's Roman or

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Cena, like all these interactions that can take place, it's hard for me to even pick

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out who's the final four for the men, let alone who's actually winning this match.

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Yeah, it's fun.

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I'm stoked for Saturday's PLA.

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Speaking of WWE Creative, Dr. Traa, like I said before here a couple of minutes ago, we

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often sit here as of late and we praise WWE Creative, which if you are strictly an AW

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fan on WWE Hater and you listen to the spot catch, you're like, man, when did they get a

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trash to do a creative?

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Well, I think we may be doing that right now because I think it is time to point out some

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of the flaws of WWE Creative.

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Some things that stand out to me, Dr. Traa, and just as it's in top of mind right now because

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they mentioned it on, I believe, Monday's Raw.

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This transfer portal window, I haven't understood it whatsoever.

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I wish they had some rules behind it.

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There's been finally some movement eight-town-down under, have gone from SmackDown to Raw, Ms.

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Raw to SmackDown, why it's six, Raw to SmackDown, Damien Raw to SmackDown, Bayley SmackDown

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to Raw, Nia Jax hasn't been officially moved but she's been performing on Raw.

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There have been some movements as of late for some people in this transfer portal window

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and now it's closing at the rumble.

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And it's like, what was the point of all this?

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How long was it supposed to be open for?

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Why do they do this?

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Is this something that we're going to see more often?

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Is there going to be no more draft?

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I thought that was a major flaw.

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One else that I'll point out, the booking of Gunther and Damien Priests is World Heavyweight

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Champions.

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I think has been very poor.

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I don't think that they've done a good job getting those two guys over as world champions.

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And this may just be the case of the first title reign because a lot of people in their

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first world title reign aren't necessarily booked extremely well.

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And then their second one comes around and you're like, man, why don't they do this for

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X, Y, Z person?

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Why didn't they do this before during the first run?

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That has been me to me.

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And then the Raw Tag Team Division.

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It's compared to SmackDown which is starting to evolve as a tag team division.

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It's like, why haven't we done this on the Raw side?

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Four Raiders and Damien, Adaminec Mysterio and JD McDonough who had a gnarly injury during

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that match, had a great match on Raw and hopefully they build off of it.

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But the Raw Tag Team Division has basically been dormant and they would always bash Finn

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and JD on television for never defending the titles.

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And it's like, well, the reason for that is because creative isn't booking anything.

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So hey, we need to improve that.

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I think WWE is actually focusing on something like because they've got some talented tag

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teams on the red brand.

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Pretty brothers come immediately to mine.

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So there's some flaws that I see with the WWE creative right now.

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I would say it runs at like 95% happiness for me as a wrestling fan doctor, and 5% still

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that bitchiness that we'll see on social media.

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If I was given a letter grade, I'd give it a very solid A. But there are some flaws that

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we are starting to see bubble up more often than not when it comes to WWE creative as of

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late.

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Yeah, I feel like on one hand, the Raw brand is a little top heavy.

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Like there's a lot of big name stars and that's why we've had this conversation several

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times over the last year.

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Like when you're looking at Gunther or Damien Priest as your world champion on a brand that

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has CM Punk, Seth Rollins, Drew McIntyre, Sammy Zane, Jey O'Sou.

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Like where does Gunther in at the time, Damien Priest fall in that pecking order of who's

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your most bankable star?

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Usually your champion is your top guy on that show.

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And I don't think that they've done Damien Priest or Gunther any favors over the last year

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by positioning him almost as a B+ type player on that show.

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You look at SmackDown and it's like Cody's the top guy.

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Now that Roman's back, it's a little bit 1A and 1B, but it's Cody the top guy.

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We've had an issue filling in the gap for guys for Cody to challenge where that's why I

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thought with this roster or with the transfer portal window, you'd see a couple guys moving

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to kind of even that out a little bit.

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And we saw Damien Priest make the move, but he's on the same side as Cody.

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Like he's a maybe face for all intents and purposes.

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Like who's the next challenger on that brand after you move away from KO?

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So I feel like there's some depth issues.

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The tag team division on SmackDown since the most of machine gun, the show has gotten

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better.

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The raw side, when you have the war raiders and you have the judgment day, but then you're

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using those guys.

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But the creepers have it really been used.

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We really never saw any of the why it's six get used in tag team.

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But new day finally have something to do, but now they're looking like a little bit of

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like the bumbling idiot type gimmick going with them.

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I was kind of bummed out when they moved A town down or A town down under so raw because

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I thought the A town down under pairing with the Miz would have been great.

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But to then suddenly shift them to raw makes you feel a little bit weak.

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So yeah, there's there's something.

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And then to me, even the women's division, like it's felt monopolized by Rhea and Liv.

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And luckily we have the intercontinental title to kind of start building some depth, but

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it feels like there's such a dramatic drop off from Liv and Rhea to everybody else on

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that show.

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You know, it's like, man, like who are you building up to really be the next challenger for

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those guys?

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And maybe moving Naya and Bailey over is what their bandaid solution for it is, but now

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you have the same problem on SmackDown with all right.

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You got Tiffany.

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Who else you got?

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Yes, everybody else has been kind of shifted around or stuck in tag teams and you really have

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them built up anybody else to be that next breakout star.

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So there are some chinks in the armor.

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I'd give WWE booking over the last, you know, five months, like an A minus just because

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like we're focusing on the cool kids club and we're not focusing on the band kids who can

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turn into the cool kids later on.

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Yeah, it's a very interesting time because I think from a roster standpoint, this is one

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of the most talented WWE rosters I've seen in nearly 25, 30 years top to bottom.

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It's like, man, this is, I really feel like that the way that this roster is set right now

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and who's on the roster and how they're performing and where they could be going.

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This is one of those deals where 20 years from now fans that are like, we're our age with

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an attitude error as teenagers in our early 20s and join professional wrestling.

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It's like, you don't realize it at the time and then you look back and it's like, man,

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I think in 2009, 2000, Edging Christian and the Hardies were on the bottom of the card.

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Kurt Angles in the middle of the card and Rock and Austin Triple H were running at the top.

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It's like, can you imagine that today?

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And I think that they've got that right now.

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I think this is a roster where you look back and you're talking about 20 years from now,

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how does this compare to that attitude error of 96 to 2001-ish WWE programming?

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And I think they're there, but there are things that need to improve and I'm with you.

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I think the biggest thing and we talked about this at the initial launch of the Netflix

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era of Monday Night Raw.

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Raw has definitely lost its identity since going to Netflix because it's become so top-heavy

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and they're focusing on a lot more of the top stars rather than all the build that you

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saw over the last four months when it was on the USA Network, which as a long time fan

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of WWE as a fan who watches WWE 52 weeks of the year is disappointing.

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But I get why you're trying to grab those new folks that are probably tuning into Netflix

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for the first time and hoping that they stick around there through WrestleMania season.

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So there are some things that WWE Creative needs to work on.

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We obviously are pointing those out and we'd love to hear what you have to say.

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Hit us up on Twitter @srtupodcast.

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Speaking of Creative Teams, Dr. Troy, one creative team that we definitely take shots at here

452
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,560
more often than not is the AW Creative Team.

453
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:46,680
And there are reports out there as of late that Tony Khan is quote more in the weeds when

454
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,640
it comes to AW Creative.

455
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,480
I don't know exactly what that means but some of the things that they're pointing out

456
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,320
there is the last weeks of programming.

457
00:27:55,320 --> 00:28:00,320
The opening segment from not the most recent edition of Dynamite but the week prior of

458
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,520
Kenny Omega and Will Ospreay working together was really good.

459
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:09,280
I thought it ran a little bit too long for my liking but I thought it was really good.

460
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,000
I thought it was a step in the right direction.

461
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:16,720
Another segment that everybody's talking about and I heard about this before I ever watched

462
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:17,720
it.

463
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:18,720
I did not watch Collision Live.

464
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:24,080
I watched it on DVR was the return of Timelstone Storm and I clearly enceded on social

465
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,080
meeting.

466
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,080
And everybody was raving about it.

467
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:31,320
I watched the segment happen and I wasn't the biggest fan of it.

468
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,320
I got in it.

469
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,440
I did not like that Mariah May beat the crap out of Tony Storm and that's how we got the

470
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,160
return of Timelstone Storm coming back.

471
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:44,640
I would have liked to see something where Mariah May is acknowledging this Tony Storm that

472
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:51,640
was out there with Mneeja shakes her hand, laughs and walks away and then that's when Timelstone

473
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:58,480
Storm goes, "Oh one last thing Mariah in that Timelstone Storm voice, the best role I've

474
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,400
ever played or the most challenging one is one playing yourself rather than the beat

475
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,360
down that was in the middle of all that all."

476
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:11,200
With that said, it's like there's been some good high buzz talked about segments and then

477
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:17,120
the report comes out that like Tony Wheat Khan is back in the weeds of AW Creative.

478
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,400
What do you make of this Dr. Trey?

479
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,920
What did you think of the last 10 days of AW Creative?

480
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,800
What do you think about this report about Tony Khan being in there?

481
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,040
Because quite honestly, I think it's a load of BS because it's not like he was away from

482
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,480
the company for a period of time.

483
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:30,920
These things were still happening.

484
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,720
He was still pushing the wrong people in the main event picture when people were clamoring

485
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,520
for Will Osprey, Darby Allen or Swarov Strickland to be in that role against the death

486
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:39,520
writers.

487
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,960
He's still pushing those buttons so I don't exactly know what this means that Tony Khan

488
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,200
is back in the weeds or more in the weeds of AW Creative.

489
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,800
Oh, I thought I missed red of that.

490
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,200
I thought that Tony Khan is back smoking weed.

491
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,960
Sometimes it feels that way, especially when he hugs his arm.

492
00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:02,800
Yeah, to me, I didn't get the report because I was told that Tony Khan has the final say

493
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,880
over all creative booking in the book and the buck stops with him.

494
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,320
That's when we were all led to believe when this whole, you know, the EVP shake down happen.

495
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,960
It was like, no, no, no, Tony Khan is the final voice.

496
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,720
And then you hear this is like, wait, does that mean he was away from the booking for a while?

497
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:24,240
And that's why the book he was out of sorts or like it just confused me more than anything

498
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,240
else.

499
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,600
I thought Creative had gotten better over the last few weeks.

500
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:34,760
Like I liked the offspray, Kenny Omega stuff, like even the, the only thing was, but even

501
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,760
their interactions were like, you know, even when Kenny is acknowledging, hey, the last time

502
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,560
I saw you, you were with Don Callis.

503
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,400
Like that's the stuff that you and I guys like you and I love.

504
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:50,280
Whereas like it's not that short term wrestling fan memory booking that Vince used to do,

505
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,440
it is going, hey, I know you guys saw this and remember this.

506
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:55,680
I'm going to acknowledge it.

507
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,240
I thought that was good.

508
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,160
The Don Callis family dinner.

509
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,480
I enjoy the Tony storm, Mariah May stuff.

510
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,480
Would I have done it a little bit differently?

511
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:06,480
Yeah.

512
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,160
I felt like they're kind of shotgunning this.

513
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,440
This could have been even bigger reveal.

514
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:19,680
You know, you could have had Mariah May befriend Tony storm and have her act as a mentor to,

515
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,400
you know, the ups, I'm air quoting here.

516
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,840
You can't see it because we don't have our cameras on.

517
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:30,920
The upstart rookie Tony storm have her take Tony under her wing to then later reveal that

518
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,720
time was Tony storm is here all along.

519
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:33,720
That would have been good.

520
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,560
And that to me would have been that would have been a really good angle to play.

521
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:37,560
Yeah.

522
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,120
I felt like they shot gunned it because I thought the rookie Tony storm gimmick was actually

523
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,240
pretty, like pretty good.

524
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:48,400
So I felt like they rushed that a little bit, but still I thought that the, the, the promo

525
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,960
and the soliloquy that she presented was, was really good in the crowd pop forward and

526
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,240
that thing of the day, you want your crowd happy.

527
00:31:55,240 --> 00:32:02,040
So even, you know, like, but there's still some kinks in the armor, the, you know, the stuff

528
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:06,800
with cope and FTR against the death writers and, you know, some things like that.

529
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:11,120
There's still some chinks in the armor, but I thought overall the presentation and the

530
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,280
programming had been better the last two weeks.

531
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,800
But to get that report that he's in the weeks, to me in the weeks means like you're behind

532
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,640
the scenes, but you're kind of taking a back seat role.

533
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:28,680
I don't know what they meant by that statement because it just, to me, it sounds like he's

534
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:36,080
there, but he's letting other people run the show, but he's just there to have, I guess,

535
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,160
final approval or answer any questions that people I have.

536
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,440
I don't really, like, I'm with you.

537
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:45,440
I don't get with that statement really means because to me, it means he's stepped back

538
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,880
and he's letting other people run the show.

539
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,960
But what, what it sounded like to me is that people were praising the last recent weeks of

540
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,200
programming for a W and Tony commas, taking like credit for it.

541
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,480
So I mean, that's how I, I interpreted it to be honest with you.

542
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:04,400
It's, it's had, there have been some really good positives.

543
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,400
I just don't, it's in the step in the right direction.

544
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,880
I, I wouldn't say like the pendulum is swinging back in AW direction, but it's like, I like

545
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:13,880
what I see.

546
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:18,000
One from a guy that watches AW every single week.

547
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,000
There have been some things.

548
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,480
I like the Osprey, Kenny Omega coming together.

549
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:27,540
I like the dinner at the table there with the Donalds, Don Couls family.

550
00:33:27,540 --> 00:33:33,320
I thought collision this past Saturday was a show I, I could have done without with the

551
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,320
exception.

552
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:39,600
I like the powerhouse Hobbs, Bill Bill, Big Bill interactions.

553
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,760
Big Bill clearly could not get the handcuffs on, on Wil Hobbs, which kind of,

554
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,120
made things weird.

555
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,440
Do they make, did they make handcuffs in Wil Hobbs size?

556
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:50,440
Like that's a big point.

557
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:51,440
Probably not.

558
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,640
I'm going to gas that the purpose of that was him to break them off because the way that

559
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,240
the other spots went, especially through the table, I was like they didn't improvise

560
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,240
this.

561
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,320
I was thinking they were probably like, he's handcuffed to everyone else breaks them,

562
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:04,320
like the incredible Hulk.

563
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:09,760
There might was a, was a Mark Henry that had the handcuffs spot with the hell in the

564
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:10,760
cell one point.

565
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,600
But they didn't, they, they forgot to Jimmy the handcuffs, like they're supposed to, so

566
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,200
he legitimately broke up hair handcuffs.

567
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:23,600
Well I know the story about this, but Mark Hobbs, Mark Hobbs, Mark Henry is, they had him,

568
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,480
they did not Jimmy the door on a steel cage one.

569
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:27,920
The door, yeah, that's what it was.

570
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:33,960
That's what I think that was the one you're talking about and he legitimately did that.

571
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:38,080
And that may have been a rib, knowing the way that they treated Mark Henry in time to

572
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,920
some stuff, especially when Mark Henry,

573
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,960
tell some really funny stories.

574
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,240
But yeah, you know, there's steps in the right direction and I must say if we're going

575
00:34:45,240 --> 00:34:48,920
to be talking about AW, I saw something online with social media, I'm not the biggest fan

576
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,160
of the Death Riders angle whatsoever.

577
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:56,640
I see people online calling them the death ratings and I laughed.

578
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,880
I know that, I know that was a good name.

579
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:03,180
They should have, I mean if that's the case, you just take what MJF said about Jeff

580
00:35:03,180 --> 00:35:06,720
Jarrett and stick Jeff Jarrett with the death writers and it wouldn't be kind of true.

581
00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:10,360
Can we just talk about MJF real quick? Is the lustre off of him?

582
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:11,840
Is the lustre off of MJF?

583
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaking of creative that is confusing.

584
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:18,240
I mean, the glasses, the sunglasses, he's wearing, I don't know if he's doing that as a

585
00:35:18,240 --> 00:35:20,280
joke, but I don't find it funny.

586
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:26,200
Like I miss the MJF that I was like, man, this is Roddy Piper back, this is awesome.

587
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:32,960
Like there are things about MJF that he does that are so subtle, like wearing like the

588
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:37,920
initial promo with Jeff Jarrett where he's blasting Jeff Jarrett and saying he's riding Owen's

589
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:38,920
coattails.

590
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:43,480
Meanwhile, he's wearing a blue blazer, like little subtle things like that.

591
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:44,920
I do enjoy it.

592
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:49,040
I just don't know what the storyline is.

593
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,960
They put him in a lot of times.

594
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,520
I don't see what the upside is.

595
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:59,000
Like you should be be positioning your future stars.

596
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,840
The guys you're building this company around the guy that you just apparently is, you know,

597
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:09,440
trying to multi-year deal in positions where it accentuates him and moves him up to the

598
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:10,440
next level.

599
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,560
I don't know where he's with Jeff Jarrett.

600
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:18,080
Jeff Jarrett hasn't won really anything in the last year.

601
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:23,240
So you're putting MJF out there with a guy that's basically beginning his ass kick for a

602
00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:26,280
year since he's not in any of his television.

603
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,600
How does that help MJF?

604
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:33,080
Like are you trying to elevate Jeff Jarrett at the expense of MJF?

605
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:37,960
Like it doesn't, this is where the creative comes in where I'm like, this doesn't make sense.

606
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,080
You know, it's Darby Allen losing to Jack Perry in a coffin match.

607
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:46,120
It's like, okay, that doesn't make a ton of sense in the long term.

608
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,920
Now it could be who, like once again, MJF's loss could be lost here because he's due to

609
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:55,800
a Jeff Jarrett, a person that, I mean, really, like he said, how many people are diehard

610
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,520
Jeff Jarrett fans?

611
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,360
Like it's not really getting the great reaction.

612
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,440
We just saw the same thing with Adam Cole in him where they're coming back, but they switched

613
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,360
roles and the fans have stopped caring about the feud.

614
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,840
Like you're not putting him in places where he can really shine.

615
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:15,680
Now part of it is, yeah, some of his promos, I feel like he's phoning it in.

616
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,000
Like he's just going for the cheap heat and that's it.

617
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:22,000
Like it doesn't feel like he has, it doesn't feel like he's having fun.

618
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,520
And that's one thing you and I always talk about in this show is when the guys are having

619
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,080
fun, we feel it.

620
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:33,240
Look at Drew McIntyre earlier this year, like we're like, this guy's having a blast and he

621
00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:36,840
elevates himself up to me when the top guys in the company all over again in a different

622
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:37,840
role.

623
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:43,040
It just feels like, you know, guys like MJF or, and even to a degree, the deathwriters, like

624
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,440
they're not having fun.

625
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,320
They're just going through the motions and you kind of feel that through the television.

626
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:53,240
Yeah, it's, there's definitely some weird aura going on there with AW with certain elements.

627
00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:58,040
So yeah, I miss the old MJF stuff, but I will say the last 10 days programming overall for

628
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,040
AW.

629
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,760
It's definitely set up in the right direction and hope things continue there.

630
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,880
But I just thought like Tony Kombi and more on the Weets VW creative.

631
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,080
It's like, well, where's he, where's he been?

632
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,320
Like, did he not give a crap for the last four months?

633
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,120
I mean, it's just a weird story to put out there and you have to figure the way that

634
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,560
this story was directed that it came from AW to try.

635
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,120
Yeah, I mean, he had soccer going on.

636
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,120
Yeah, of course.

637
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:24,760
And, you know, him and his dad had to fire coach and then hire a guy who said, do

638
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:30,120
Vall, maybe the creepiest I've ever heard you've all said, do you know what I'm saying?

639
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,120
Oh, I know.

640
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:36,520
It's just like, I just pictured Liam Cohen and now as a murder, like a, like the serial killer

641
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,880
and a Jacksonville horror movie.

642
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:44,560
We haven't even gotten a chance to talk about this, but as NFL fans, I mean, the, the

643
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,280
con family for if you're just strictly arresting fan and you don't follow what's going

644
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,760
on in the NFL.

645
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:57,440
The con family is like looked at as joke owners now and I'm like, man, this is kind of bleeding

646
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,360
into potentially how people feel on the rest of the things as well.

647
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:10,160
Yeah, no, I mean, I mean, I, the Jaguars have always been kind of like my, like my secret

648
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,160
favorite team.

649
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:17,320
Like, yeah, I love my honors, but I always, I always wanted to find an AFC team to root for,

650
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,720
you know, so that way it's like, I have one on each side.

651
00:39:19,720 --> 00:39:24,680
And Mark Bernel brought you in that you were like a, you were a fan of Steve Young lefty,

652
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,280
Frower, Kodobak and some of the Cornell.

653
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,280
Mark Bernel, Jimmy Smith, Fred Taylor.

654
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:30,760
I like the Tony Bustelli.

655
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:31,760
Tom Cofflin.

656
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:38,240
Oh, yeah, but when they brought in Trent Balky to be their GM, I knew that was going to

657
00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:41,080
be a train wreck because I dealt with him on the nighters.

658
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:48,080
So I knew that's a bad, but yes, like, you know, the urban Meyer hiring, the Doug Peterson

659
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:52,280
two years, and it's like, they're not giving these guys any time to actually build anything

660
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,120
and then you're sticking them with a crappy GM.

661
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,320
You're not going to be anything done.

662
00:39:55,320 --> 00:40:03,160
So, but yeah, like they are, they're not dance, nighter, Redskins, commanders owner of

663
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:10,000
bad, but they're right there in that weird Jerry Jones level where if you're, if you like

664
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,400
the Khan family in that part of the Jacksonville area, then you're great.

665
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,520
The rest of the area just despises them and wants them to disappear.

666
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,880
I'm a Tony, I'm a, I'm a shotgun fan because it was mustache like if that's, I'll give him

667
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,120
the credit, I'll give him credit because he looks like a real life Mario.

668
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,280
That's, that's very fair.

669
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,080
I think that's very fair.

670
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:33,800
So we've been bouncing around here, WWE creative, AW creative, well, the head of WWE creative

671
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,960
is one Paul triple H, LeVec.

672
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,920
And it was announced yesterday on social media.

673
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:44,840
Dr. Dre threw various reports that there was a town hall meeting at WWE headquarters over

674
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:45,840
in Stanford, Connecticut.

675
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:50,320
And it was announced during all of that that triple H would be the first member of the

676
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,800
2025 WWE Hall of Fame class that the undertaker came out.

677
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,000
Sean Michaels came out surprised.

678
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,920
They meant it was a whole big thing.

679
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,520
Later that evening, WWE released footage of it.

680
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,080
If you have not had an opportunity to watch the footage, go out of your way and check it

681
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:04,640
out.

682
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:09,400
But long overdue, so well deserved.

683
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:14,720
I'm happy that he's going in and it's just not on his own and not just with degeneration

684
00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:19,040
X. Because I thought it was going to be like a Vince thing where the person running the

685
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:23,280
show with the pencil is never going to get a chance to put himself in.

686
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:29,200
Paul triple H, LeVec is headlining the 2025 WWE Hall of Fame class.

687
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,160
Dr. Dre, the impact is wrestler.

688
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,440
Now the impact is a booker.

689
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:36,440
This is awesome.

690
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,520
So very well deserved for the cerebral assassin and get his rightful place at the Hall of

691
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,680
Fame during WrestleMania 41 weekend.

692
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:49,520
Yeah, I honestly had not I forgot that he had not been put in as a wrestler.

693
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:54,040
Like I knew he's a Hall of Fame from DX and just didn't dawn on me that he wasn't in for

694
00:41:54,040 --> 00:42:01,520
everything he had done as a professional wrestler leading into his new role.

695
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,840
He's a marvel to me in so many ways.

696
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:11,760
Like he's the perfect blend of coming from the Vince tree, but also the dusty tree,

697
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:17,280
the fly like he's got so many influences in how his mind works and he's able to meld it

698
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:22,240
together pretty seamlessly for the most part.

699
00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:31,400
Getting that little acknowledgement from his wife, his best friend and his greatest rival.

700
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,920
Like that's pretty cool.

701
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,840
And I was thinking about it earlier day.

702
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:44,160
I don't know if there's anybody else in the history of professional wrestling that has

703
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:50,700
got the wrestling community to give him a complete 180 on where they viewed him early

704
00:42:50,700 --> 00:42:57,200
on his career to where he is now because at some point around 1999, he was the most

705
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:02,560
reviled person in pro wrestling because people were basically saying he only got his spot

706
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,840
because he married staff.

707
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:10,520
And you see where he's at now and he's arguably the most beloved person in all of professional

708
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:11,520
wrestling.

709
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:16,960
My only thing that I wish was I wish Ric Flair was on the WWE roster right now and Ric could

710
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:23,600
help be a part of the festivities for his induction.

711
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,240
Who's who is it going to be Sean or is it going to be taken that induction?

712
00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:27,240
I think it's Sean.

713
00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:29,200
I think it's Sean.

714
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,160
I think it is too.

715
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,280
I mean, take your inducted cane.

716
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,280
Anything or take your inducted something recently.

717
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,400
So I think it will be Sean's turn.

718
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:44,520
But yeah, like if you could have had Sean Flair and take the three of them to induct him,

719
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:49,880
I don't know if there's any bigger class of influences around him that could be on TV

720
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,560
that's not named Vince.

721
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:55,520
But yeah, like just well deserving.

722
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,200
I was always a triple H guy.

723
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:01,800
I've always like, Marvel was the rub from Sean, but I always like triple H even when he

724
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,120
was hated by everybody in the wrestling.

725
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:10,520
I was like, the guy goes out there and he makes people want to watch because you hate him

726
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,600
so much, you have to see everybody try kick his ass.

727
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,000
That's one of my favorite things.

728
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:19,440
And he was always great in that role and he's transitioned to other things and he's arguably

729
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,880
the best mind in the business right now.

730
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:27,680
So the guy's like a living like a marvel to me is how well he's resurrected and changed

731
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:32,960
course and got the entire wrestling community to change their opinion on him without actually

732
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,680
even saying a word about it.

733
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:39,120
He just accepted the way it was, did his work and people went, oh crap, he's really good

734
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,120
at this.

735
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,600
I love the guy.

736
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:50,720
Yeah, like from 96 to 99, I think people were a big fan of the degeneration.

737
00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:53,640
Actually finally got his opportunity as world champion.

738
00:44:53,640 --> 00:45:02,880
And then from 99 till about his injury, the quadricept he was loathed as a heel, legitimately

739
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,880
loathed as a heel and there was some rumbly there on the dirt sheets of why he was getting

740
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:07,880
pushed.

741
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:16,320
He goes away, comes back in 2022 returns for the road to WrestleMania 18 wins the rumble,

742
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:22,480
has one of the best reactions of any return in Madison Square Garden in January 2002.

743
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,720
And he was riding as a baby face for a while.

744
00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:30,280
Then shortly thereafter turns heel turns on Sean and then from that point on until about

745
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:38,040
like 2005, it was like triple H was jammed down our throats as a world champion as a heel.

746
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:43,120
And it was not, it was not great times and I am a triple H fan, but that run for triple

747
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,520
H with evolution was was not my favorite.

748
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:52,280
He was headlining pay per views there in 19 B Booker T 20 loses to Benoit.

749
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:58,640
That was the match with Sean Michaels, 21 loses to Batista helps put Batista over.

750
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,920
And then it things started to pick up more where he had the matches with Cena, he got injured

751
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,160
again with the quads and then returned.

752
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:11,520
And I want to say it was around that time, Dr. Tray that triple H became a father and I

753
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:16,480
think what anybody who's become a father, me recently, Dr. Tray, it really does change

754
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,920
you, changes you for the better.

755
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,720
And you started to see a little bit of a change there.

756
00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:25,200
There was definitely some politics and triple Hs it was still going on, especially if he

757
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:31,080
listened back to those C on punk interviews on his departure from WWE in 2014.

758
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:36,240
But as time has gone on, he's like really embraced independent wrestling, seeing that as

759
00:46:36,240 --> 00:46:42,400
a positive for professional wrestling rather than that was a negative because I think in

760
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:47,080
that 2000 era, he was the type that would crap all over Bringabon or any independent

761
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:52,440
promotions are taking over at that period of time and then really started to transcend professional

762
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:53,440
wrestling with NXT.

763
00:46:53,440 --> 00:47:00,320
I think NXT led to the popularity of going out there and checking out things like New

764
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:05,800
Japan which then led to the elite being able to do all in which then led to the birth

765
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:10,720
of AW then AW was doing everything that we want in WWE to be.

766
00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:16,640
Vince goes away, triple H takes over the books and now WWE has been phenomenal under him.

767
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:20,840
I mean it has been so much fun to watch the program and there's obviously a lot of pros,

768
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,880
some cons which we pointed out here but a lot of that is to the credit of triple H and

769
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:32,040
what's really really cool is the locker room loves and respects him.

770
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:40,560
And that is what I think we will see come April when he goes in the night before WrestleMania,

771
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:45,080
assuming it's the night after WrestleMania as the headliner for the Hall of Fame

772
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,080
in the last 2025.

773
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,160
I think that roster is going to show him some love.

774
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:53,400
I think those fans are going to show him some love and it's so just a file we deserved.

775
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,160
I think you hit it on the head, Dr. Trey.

776
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,760
I mean he has done a complete 180.

777
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,760
He was hated by the internet and now he is beloved by the internet.

778
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:07,440
So high is the highs, lows, lows, highs, again nobody more deserving, Dr. Trey.

779
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:14,920
I mean there's very, very, very, very, very people that are deserving of being a Hall of

780
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:15,920
Famer at this point.

781
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:21,440
Triple H is one of those people so I'm very excited to see him go in for WrestleMania

782
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:22,440
41 weekend.

783
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:27,840
Yeah, like you hit the nail and like there's arguably nobody more deserving currently out

784
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:33,000
there that hasn't been put in for just what they did on the run.

785
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,640
We've seen some guys go in as part of groups and stables and tag teams and he was one

786
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:37,640
of them.

787
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:42,560
But yeah, I mean for everything he's done, everything he's now contributed the world of wrestling.

788
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:49,240
I think the biggest compliment I can give him right now as the head of creative is his

789
00:48:49,240 --> 00:48:58,360
ability to course correct, adjust and change some long held standards in what wrestling

790
00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:59,360
has been in WWE.

791
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:06,360
I mean for years like you would have never seen guys go work in Japan while under WWE contracts.

792
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:12,200
You would have never seen crossovers with stuff like TNA like they're currently doing with

793
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:17,760
a McMahon in charge and he can look at the landscape of wrestling and go, hey this would

794
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:23,840
be really beneficial to us if we do it and the crowd will dig it as well.

795
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:28,960
He course corrects and adapts better than anybody else I've seen when it comes to running

796
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:30,960
a major wrestling organization.

797
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,480
Yeah, so I'm looking forward to congratulations Paul.

798
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:38,800
Paul H. LeVac go into the Hall of Fame once again, WrestleMania 41 weekend.

799
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaking of WrestleMania 41 weekend, Dr. Trey, it kicks off the bill towards it this Saturday,

800
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,200
the Royal Rumble previewing predictions.

801
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:51,000
This Saturday from Lucas Oil, Stadium in Indianapolis, Indiana.

802
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,000
Let's get to it, I trade.

803
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,800
Let's give our predictions.

804
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,800
The first being here, the two out of three falls match for the WWE tag team championship,

805
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,720
DIY defend against the Motor City, Motor City machine guns.

806
00:50:01,720 --> 00:50:02,720
I'm excited for this one.

807
00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:05,840
I'm going to go with DIY.

808
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,640
Yeah, I'm excited for this one too.

809
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:13,280
I'm looking at on paper, I'm like, okay, so if I pick this team, lose the next challenger,

810
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:17,800
or if I pick this team, lose the next challenger, I'm going to take the Motor City machine guns,

811
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,760
getting their revenge in the belts back, because I can see them going out, they're pretty

812
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:25,040
deadly coming on and being the next challenger and have some great match leading in your

813
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,040
wrestling.

814
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:31,880
So I'm going to take MCMG to get the win, which is weird for me because I love DIY is the

815
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,200
new age version of KO and Sammy.

816
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:39,000
I usually never picking as DIY, but in this case, I'm going to take the machine guns.

817
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:43,600
Next match is the latter match for the Undisputed WWE Championship, Dr. Trey.

818
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:44,600
Who do you like in this one?

819
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,960
Cody Rhodes or Kevin Owens?

820
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:55,160
Because we are so close to WrestleMania, we are only 60 some odd days out from WrestleMania.

821
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,760
I really want to see KO win.

822
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,920
Jeff, you have no idea how badly I won KO as match.

823
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,160
I just don't see it having.

824
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,200
Cody's your biggest star in the company.

825
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:08,680
You want him heading into Mania as your champion, not trying to get the belt back really quickly

826
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:09,680
before Mania.

827
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,920
I'm going to take Cody retaining the title and maybe that's the whole thing.

828
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:18,600
He gets to take the wing, the winged Eagle title home and put it on the mantle next to

829
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,000
the picture of his death.

830
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:25,280
There are some rumors out there that a new championship is set to debut that will resemble

831
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:26,800
more of the winged Eagle.

832
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,360
And that's why this has been involved in it.

833
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:30,360
Warriors Cross on that one.

834
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:34,120
I am also taking Cody Rhodes to win and to retain.

835
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,120
And now the tough one, Dr. Trey, the women's Royal Rumble match.

836
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:45,200
The winner receives a women's World Championship match at WrestleMania 41.

837
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:50,440
I've been thinking about this one and I think because of the lack of build, I mentioned earlier

838
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,800
the 2023 Cody Rhodes return from injury blueprint.

839
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:58,000
I think that is what they're going to be doing this Saturday.

840
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:02,560
I think they're going to be doing that blueprint with Charlotte Flair.

841
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,600
Charlotte is my pick to win the Rumble.

842
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,440
I think her and Tiffany Stratton have a match at WrestleMania that has been the Rumble

843
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:14,920
And I think this is the way that they get Charlotte in later in the match.

844
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,680
She's not in the for a long time.

845
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,440
She's still coming off of injury.

846
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:22,280
We don't really see her wrestle all that much up until WrestleMania.

847
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:23,560
Keep her fresh.

848
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,720
Keep her un-injured like they did with Cody.

849
00:52:25,720 --> 00:52:30,280
So I'm going to go with Charlotte Flair to win the women's Royal Rumble match once again.

850
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:35,600
Yeah, to me it came down to Charlotte and Becky.

851
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:39,760
To me, everybody else we talked about on the show.

852
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,320
Either has been in the title picture, been at the top of the card.

853
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:47,880
We've already seen all the other matchups you can possibly come up with.

854
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,240
Outside of throwing Bianca into the mix by the thing, she's going to get tied up with

855
00:52:51,240 --> 00:52:58,000
Jade at some point here or some kind of weird love triangle between her Naomi and Jade.

856
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,240
So I'm taking Charlotte as well.

857
00:53:00,240 --> 00:53:06,960
What I would love to see is Charlotte win and basically do like almost take Tiffany under

858
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:13,560
her wing and protect her to get to WrestleMania then you get that match because it does kind of

859
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:19,240
feel like Tiffany and Charlotte is almost like watching like the old version and the young

860
00:53:19,240 --> 00:53:21,400
version of the same person wrestling.

861
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:25,920
So it might be one of a few times I've actually been intrigued to see how a Charlotte match

862
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,680
will play out if we do get Charlotte and Tiffany.

863
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,760
So I'm taking Charlotte to win the women's Rumble as well.

864
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:36,640
And then finally the men's Royal Rumble match winner receives a men's world champion match

865
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:37,640
of WrestleMania 41.

866
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:42,280
Dr. Trey, who do you have in this one?

867
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:43,280
This one's tough.

868
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,960
It's almost by process of elimination is how I got to it.

869
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,120
Like we mentioned earlier, you got Drew McIntyre Seth Rollins.

870
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:55,720
C.M. Pong, John Cena, Roman Reigns, you got Damien Priest, Sami Zayn, Jay Huso.

871
00:53:55,720 --> 00:53:59,120
I almost feel like a lot of those guys are going to help eliminate each other in a lot of

872
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:00,120
ways.

873
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:05,000
And I looked at it and went like who's the person who doesn't have a huge rivalry with anybody

874
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,080
else going on that would cause them to lose this match?

875
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:12,320
But John Cena, Cena is not in a rivalry with anybody.

876
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:16,040
Like Roman's got solo, we figure solo is going to get involved or Jay can fight too.

877
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,480
We figured the bloodline would be in the match.

878
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,400
Jay and Sami got their stuff with Drew.

879
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,320
C.M. Pong's got his stuff with Seth.

880
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:27,520
I feel like all these guys are going to kind of help eliminate each other.

881
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:31,320
And then you're left with John Cena standing there because I still, to me, the money matching

882
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:36,120
WrestleMania still, one of the big matches would be Cena versus Gunther, Cena going for

883
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:37,120
the record.

884
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,240
So I'm taking John Cena to win the Rumble.

885
00:54:40,240 --> 00:54:43,440
Yeah, this is a tough call.

886
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:49,080
I've been thinking about this for a long time here and the direction they may be going.

887
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:54,440
There's Rumbleings of Cody Rhodes versus John Cena at WrestleMania.

888
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,720
There's Rumbleings of Logan Paul versus Gunther at WrestleMania.

889
00:54:57,720 --> 00:55:00,200
John Cena versus Gunther at WrestleMania.

890
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:08,960
Dr. Jay pointed out and all be all I'm going to go with CM Punk to win the men's Royal Rumble

891
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:09,960
match.

892
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:15,800
And a lot of momentum, he's never main evented, he's never won the Rumble match.

893
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:20,280
And I think this is something that is missing on the resume of one CM Punk.

894
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:24,560
So I'm very tempted to pick John Cena as well, Dr. Trey.

895
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:29,480
But I'm going to go with CM Punk to win the men's Royal Rumble match.

896
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And we will recap and review everything from the Royal Rumble on next week's edition of

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SRTU, the first episode of the month of February.

898
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So stay tuned for that one.

899
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We obviously go into this paper view, zero and zero.

900
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Coming off of 2024's paper view predictions, which I won Dr. Trey.

901
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I win 145 and 43.

902
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,760
You win 129 and 59.

903
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So I think we need to start to parlay some of the stuff with like draft Kings or Fandall.

904
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[LAUGH]

905
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>> Well, I mean, you have a lot more connections with those guys than I do.

906
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I'm in Alabama.

907
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I can't even legally go on those sites to play some wager on anything.

908
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So you might have a little more pull with those guys.

909
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,400
Look, you were kicking my ass the entire year the last month and a half.

910
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I literally just started picking an opposite of you to try and catch up.

911
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,560
Obviously, I didn't work out.

912
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But this year, I have a different mindset.

913
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I am trying to, instead of pick with my heart, try to more pick with my logic and

914
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kind of how the shows are being put together and booked.

915
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,800
So hopefully that will turn things around.

916
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Not to mention, I'm sure we'll get into this here in a minute.

917
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Sammy Franklin still has to pick his stuff.

918
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That will be up on the Facebook page either later tonight when this comes out or

919
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definitely before the rumble.

920
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Sammy Franklin who has never picked a rumble winner correctly and

921
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usually picks the first person eliminated.

922
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So I'm excited to see who he picks for this year's rumble to see if his streak continues on.

923
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Stay tuned.

924
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:02,960
I am looking forward to that.

925
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That will be on our Facebook page, Facebook.com/todayrealthosshow.

926
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With that said, let's get a couple of plugs and sponsors out of the way you can download

927
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,960
the show every Thursday or Friday at realguyradio.com.

928
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Russell Chatnet on X and the Stoodle Realthos Show iTunes feed.

929
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,480
Don't forget to rate, review and subscribe to help us kind of charge on iTunes.

930
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,760
You can also individually on X for myself at SRTU.

931
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,760
Jeff and for Dr. Franklin at the Dr. Tre.

932
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:33,920
And of course don't forget to follow the show on X at SRTU podcast.

933
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:39,080
Without being sad of what is going on in the wonderful world of Dr. Franklin this week.

934
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Well like Jeff said, you can follow me on X at the Dr. Tre.

935
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:47,280
You can find me on Facebook and Instagram Dr. Tre Franklin.

936
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,760
When you're on Facebook, be sure to check out Rocket City Championship Wrestling.

937
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,040
We actually will be doing a show this Saturday night.

938
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So I may not be able to watch the rumble live because we got some Rocket City stuff going

939
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:03,800
on as we are on the road to WrestlingCon 5 May 4th from Lovely Hazel Green Alabama.

940
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Also be sure to check out Spartan Championship Wrestling, one of my favorite groups to work

941
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,040
with here in the Save Alabama.

942
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,800
But most importantly, get out there, find your own independent wrestling shows.

943
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,320
Dig in.

944
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:19,120
The weather is changing, the sun is coming out, all these great things are happening.

945
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,760
So go out there, find your local independent wrestling show and see if there are promoters

946
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,240
hiding in the back in the weeds, secretly booking the shows.

947
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:30,600
So there you go, enjoy everything that is out there in the world of professional wrestling.

948
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,840
It's going to be a very fun weekend as the road to WrestlingCon 4.1 kicks off.

949
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:38,920
One of my favorite shows to sit down, relax and just enjoy the Royal Rumble PLE Live from

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Indianapolis, Indiana, Lucas Oil Stadium.

951
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:45,440
So once again, we'll be back next week to recap it and review it for all of you.

952
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,160
Enjoy the weekend, enjoy the Royal Rumble.

953
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,440
Difficult to rate, review and subscribe to SRTU.

954
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:54,240
And until next week for Dodge Strike Franklin, I am Jeff Peck.

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This has been The Still Rural Show.