WWE SummerSlam Recap & Review | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #704 – 8/10/23

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It's still welcome everybody. Welcome to
this week's edition to Store Reel to Show

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episnumber seven hundred and four for August
tenth, twenty twenty three. This is

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your WWE SummerSlam Recap and Review edition
of Apps Are to You. I am

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one Apple Show. I am Jeff
Peck joined every single week my cost theoly

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doctor Trey Franklin, Doctor Trey.
Has your brother ever turned his back on

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you? My friend? Uh,
let's see which one I have? Several?

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So I have I have one,
two, three, A four step

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brothers and my real brother. So
three of them? No, two of

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them? Yes? All right,
okay, stay tuned. I mean that

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could be head line in a pay
per view soon. Well yeah, but

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then again, that Elton involved me
actually getting back into a ring, and

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that's not happening any type too.
All right, fair enough, fair enough,

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We'll trying to again in a couple
of months. Folks. Welcome,

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welcome, one and all to this
week's edition MASSR to you, obviously recap

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and review. With Summer Slam here
momentarily the biggest party of the summer.

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We have things that are going on
with all in London. Some fallout from

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Summer Slam that we'll talk about here
all on this week's edition of SRTU.

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So let's get into it, Doctor
Trey. This past Saturday SummerSlam Ple from

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Ford Field in Detroit, Michigan,
which also held which WrestleMania Doctor Trey.

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Oh random Guess twenty eighth, twenty
three, twenty three, which was headlined

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by John Cen and Shawn Michaels.
Oh, okay, that's actually the one

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that made me said, because I'm
a Shawn Michael's fan. First. Yeah,

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it was originally supposed to be Triple
and John Cena going one on one

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as a rematch from wrestle May twenty
two, but Triple H got hurt in

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January, New England New Year's Revolution. I almost a New England Revolution,

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which was a soccer team New Year's
Revolution. I believe it was in Puerto

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Rico. He tore his Quadraceps again
doing a spinebuster, I believe in I

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think an elimination chamber match. I'm
not. I don't know. I may

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may have messed that one up,
maybe in a tag team match, but

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nonetheless, it was the home of
WrestleMania twenty three, and they're back there

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for summer Slam fifty nine thousand strong
and attendance for this year's edition of Summer

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Slam, Doctor Trey. The first
match here was Logan Paul defeating Ricochet.

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We both had Logan Paul getting the
victory. Really good match. Logan Paul

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having less than ten matches under his
belt performing at that level is pretty amazing.

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The brass knuckles ending made sense as
it added Logan's growing heel persona,

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and he also didn't beat a regular
talent. Clean good spot for Ricochet and

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happy he had this opportunity, fun
match, Doctor try to kick off the

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show. Yeah, really good,
really good match. And I'm sitting there

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watching this, I'm going I still
really don't want to enjoy Logan Paul matches,

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but I do. And I mean
that Buck shot Larryot over the top

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rope down to the floor, like
even though the clothesline wasn't clean, just

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the fact that he can pull that
off, Like, I'm like, all

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right, this guy's crazy athletic.
Him and Ricochet had really good chemistry.

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It was a really good spot for
Ricochet to be in to open up the

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show. It was a fun little
match. I was a little bummed out

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about him not getting a push on
Monday night, but you know whatever.

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But yeah, like overall to kick
off the show, I was like,

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damn, this is that they're setting
the bar pretty high for two guys at

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the crowd. I don't know about
it is. The crowd was kind of

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it into the beginning, but by
the end they were fully invested. Oh

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yeah, they were. They were
loving and it wasn't I know, this

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is gonna sounds strange because of the
amount of spots that they did, but

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I didn't feel like it was two
spot monkey ish. Yeah. I mean,

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I don't know about you. I
was expecting another one of those mid

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air collisions like we saw at the
Rumble, and we didn't get that.

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It was, you know, very
very smartly contested, like we saw Logan

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Paul going to the ribs trying to
slow down ricochet things like that. Like,

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it was a very very smart match
for two high flying guys. The

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only thing is is I never know
who these like friends of Logan Paul are.

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I'm sure somebody listened to this podcast
does because he's very popular. No,

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I had no clue who the hell
was the person that put the brass

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knucks on his hand for the victory. And just like I didn't know who

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KSI was from WRESTLEMANI this year when
he came down that prime mascot outfit against

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Seth Rollins. So that's really the
only thing. It makes me feel old,

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But love murhadum Logan. Paul is
a phenomenal athlete and he's really picked

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up wrestling and he's been a fun
character since he came on several years ago.

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Next match here is Cody Rhodes.
IFITTI and Brock Lessler, we both

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did. Cody Rhodes getting the victory. A very well booked match. It

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looked like your standard Brock Lesser match, except Cody rose. Cody Rhodes would

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not stay down. Cody persevered,
overcoming the beast and receiving the most important

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thing Lessner has rarely done, and
that has given his respect to his opponent

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post match in the ring. The
vote of confidence raised Cody's game and Jody

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could be the guy in dwe.
I thought it was telling. Cody defeated

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Brock literally the same way he'd almost
defeated Rains at rustum Ny thirty nine in

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April. Great match. Doctor Try
really enjoyed how this was. But Cody

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Rhodes defeating Brock Lessner. Yeah,
this was like I didn't know if this

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matched the top the Ricochet Logan Paul
match, and I thought it was a

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fantastic match, Like this is kind
of It was a lot of old school

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storytelling with you know a little bit
of you know, Cody's new school style

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mixed in, you know, the
top rope Cody cutter, Brock taking that

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I don't know aboutjub I was like, really, whoa Brock took that move?

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Okay, but yeah, it was
It was all about David overcoming golife

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in this one, and he finally
did in the end. So getting that

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handshake, I mean I could probably
count on one hand how many times Brock.

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I've seen Brock shake somebody's hand.
I think it's once. Maybe I

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don't know, But to actually get
that post match, I thought that was

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really telling. And then also sets
up for Brock comes back Brock and come

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back into a baby face because Cody
won him over. I guess. Next

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match it was La and I winning
the SummerSlam Battle Royal sponsored by Slim Jim,

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which is not sponsor the show.
I had La and I doctor Trey

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Bobby Lashley, who was not in
the match, but you went, you

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went deep cut there to get the
get the victory in this one nonetheless fun

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Battle Royal, w makes the right
calng goes with the fan response to finally

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equal the crowd reaction to victories for
l A Night, Yeah, Doctor Trey

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La and I gets a victory.
Yeah it was. It was an okay

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Battle Royal. I didn't get it
wasn't like I've seen some better ones recently,

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better booked ones. The O Moss
stuff I thought was pretty cool.

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Uh. My only complaint was at
one point Omas picked up Butch and Riddle

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and Corey Graves, didn't you know
mention, Hey those are former nx C

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Tag Team champions. He's just throwout
you know, like that's a yep.

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Yeah. So outside of that,
like it was fine, it helps La

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Night get over some more. But
then, you know, how do you

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go from winning a Battle Royal too, I don't want to say dropping back

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down to Miss, but doesn't that
feel kind of like a step down from

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winning a Battle Royal at SummerSlam?
I don't know. I think the Miss

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stuff is more like cementing him as
a baby face, because who's like one

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of the more hated heels in the
company. But the Miss. Yeah,

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I think the biggest thing to me
is and who knows that this is gonna

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be longer if this is longer term, But La Knight is a SmackDown guy

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showing up on raw right now for
no reason whatsoever and may be feuding with

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the Miss, So I think the
more outside of that as well. I

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actually I hate to do this,
but I didn't think La Night did a

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good job in that promo back and
forth with the Miss this past month,

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which kind of goes down into this
deeper path that I've I've had on the

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rundown for the podcast the last couple
of weeks. What we just haven't gotten

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to it is is there's this you
know, organic meteoric rise right now for

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La Night. And I usually get
behind these things and I like l A

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Night, but I'm not to the
level of the crowd reaction he's getting.

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And I don't know if that's because
I remember him in Impact Wrestling as Eli

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Drake. He did a run with
NWA for a little bit as well.

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I mean, he's he's been out
there for a long time. He was

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with an NXT for like almost two
years, and you know, I grew

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up in the Attitude era, and
I get that they're playing off on that

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he's a throwback to the Attitude era. But I mean, there is so

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many similarities to Steve Austin and The
Rock that it kind of becomes a little

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corny. I don't know if I'm
fully behind the La Night you know,

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Organic Rise like everybody else is right
now, doctor try you know, I

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see the comparisons to Austin and Rock
and it doesn't really bother me because I

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can look at other guys on the
roster and go, yeah, I mean

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this guy's kind of like this or
this guy's very similar to this guy.

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My issue with the La Night Rise
is that you're absolutely right, like everybody

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thinks he's a great promo. Miss
smoked him, like Miss I mean,

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he couldn't touch Miss Monday Night.
But that's the part of the issue is

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there's no depth to the character yet, and he's been all over the map,

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you know, since coming onto the
scene. We saw few with Bray

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Wyatt, and then you know,
he's over here, then he's over there,

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and so like, we really haven't
fleshed out who La Night is.

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And that's one of the things it
does like miss calling him flavor of the

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month. I'm like, yeah,
right now, I do kind of feel

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like he's flavor of the month until
we get some more depth to this character.

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So you know, fans are gonna
cheer for who they cheer for,

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and you know, we really haven't
had a guy that's that's had a great

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catchphrase to really spark the crowd.
Maybe since the Daniel Bryant Yes movement,

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maybe this is it, But we
do need some more depth to the La

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Night character for me to fully get
on board. Yeah, and I think

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that they're missing the boat a little
bit with his theme music, Like how

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are they not kicking that off with
just like him doing yeah to to kick

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off? Not that weird like l
A Night robot voice, Like yeah,

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I don't know, a little strange, but I don't know. I don't

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know if we'll start continue to dig
deep here on the L and Night stuff.

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But I'm not on the same level
as as most of the fan base

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right now. It's really enjoyable to
watch because it's rare that you see this

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happen. But yeah, I mean
he's been around for a while, I

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mean kind of know who he is. Shandon Baysler defeats ron A Rousing and

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an MMA rules match. We both
at Shandon Basler getting victory. Bold Booking

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moved by w to hold this match
after a shotgun feud and with the MMA

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rules stipulation. The crowd was dead
and the stipulation of an MMA rules match

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doesn't really bode well for wrestling fans. Nonetheless, for what it was,

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I thought it was a fine match
that made booking sense, with Shanea joking

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out Ron to help elevate her during
Rousey's latest w E exit, Doctor Trey

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your thoughts, So, I actually
really enjoyed this, and you know this,

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I'm not a big UFC guy.
I have never, like outside of

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the the Tito Ortiz, Rampeys,
Jackson, Chuck Liddell era of UFC not

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really got in behind it. I
like this for the technicalities of it,

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like the you know, the submission
holds and how they encounter them. Also,

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you know, you see Shana showing
up, you know, Monday Night

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with the black eyes, like I
feel like they were really fighting. Jeff,

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Yeah, I know there was,
I know there was you know,

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of course some pro wrestling mixed in
there, but there were times in there

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I'm like, I think these two
ladies who are best friends are really throwing

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down right now. So I really
enjoyed. I know the crowd wasn't into

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it, and I get it.
It's not your typical standard WWE thing.

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It's not we've never had a match
like this before. But just for the

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science and the technical prowess of watching
those two ladies counter each other's submission moves

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and doing them in ways that I
hadn't seen before, I was like,

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this was pretty cool. So it
didn't have the sizzle that made most of

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SummerSlam has, but you know,
it was a really good, solid entree

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at least. Next match, here's
gun Through defeating Drew Mcatar to retain the

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w W Intercountinental Championship. We both
had gun Through again. The victory match

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what we would expect from gun Through
and Drew, hard hitting and entertaining and

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well booked. The finished a surprised
because it fell short and gun Thro went

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on a metally of big moves to
put Drew away. Dutch Trey your thoughts,

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there's gun Through retains When was the
last time we saw Drew get defeated

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cleanly? Like clean? You know
that was that was really telling to me

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as well, Like, and I
don't want to say this match as a

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letdown, but yeah, it felt
like there was still some stuff to go

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through. And then you know,
even post match, Drew walking away and

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I'm like, this is the last
time I see Drew again for a little

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while. Like this just kind of
felt. It felt odd, and I

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mean it's hard hitting as hell.
He saw the welts on both guys.

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I mean, they were beating the
crap out of each other, but the

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finish was really really strong for Gunther, and I'm like, we're going from

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Gunther and Drew to Gunther and Gable. Like that's a weird transition to go

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with. But you know, I'm
happy for Chad Gable at least, but

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it's just kind of weird. We
look at like the threat of somebody beating

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Gunther's like is Chad Gable that guy? When Riddle and MacIntyre couldn't do it?

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So weird transition, Okay, match, Yeah, just kind of like

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it wasn't on the level what wrestle
media was. I guess that's why it

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kind of bugs me. Gun Thur
will be taken on Chad Gable. I

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believe this Monday on Raft Chad Gable
one a really great fatal four away match

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with Ricochet, tomasel Champ and Matt
Riddle. He looks poised and primed to

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end Hockey Talk Man's long as inter
cardinal title Ragin Dr Trey. I'm here

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for it, and I think I
think most fans are as well. Yeah,

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and I think part of it is
also is like this is what w

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loves when they have a falling out
with somebody, to put somebody up in

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the record books to replace them.
Hockey has not been a WWE guy really

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in quite a long time. So
although I wish miss had done it years

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ago when he had his countdown to
the record, but Santino had one too.

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Santino had one also. I mean, the the Honky meter was one

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of my favorite things back in the
days when as a kid, but the

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Gunther meter does have the same ring
to it. But he's been dominant even

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though he looks like he does.
I don't know about you, he looks

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weird since he lost the weight.
I'm like, I liked him bigger.

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I liked him better when he was
bigger, But I mean, like Drew

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looked like a pro wrestler compared to
Gunther. Gunther looked like an angry grandfather

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who came out to chied a child
for getting in their yard, you know

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as SummerSlam. That's an interesting analogy
that you threw out there. Didn't see

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that looks like Walter math Ou a
little bit. Yeah, I guess,

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I guess, I don't know.
Look at for all you, for all

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you young people out there in for
Jeff Peck, go look at a picture

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of young Walter Mathou. Okay,
he looks like Gunther, Young Walter Mathou.

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I guess I'm gonna have to take
a look at this. Yere real

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quick, young Walter math Ou.
I'm sure I spelled it. Maybe the

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hair, I don't know, man, hare's the ears, it's nothing,

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I don't know. It's just like
he just reminds me. He just looks

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like a grumpy old man. No, hey, that's that's the whole German

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deal, right, Yeah, that's
true. I mean, even even like

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Ludwig Kaiser looks like he's I think
Kaiser's like thirty two, and he looks

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like he looks like he's a fifty
two year old man. Like he just

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looks pissed off. Also like Vinci
being the one Italian in the group is

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the guy who actually looks his age. Yeah, no, that's true,

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that's true. Yeah, well that's
the Italians. You know. I could

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say that because I am you know, I mean to me And this could

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be a good deep dive someday.
It's like, how the hell do you

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turn Gunther baby face? At some
point? Like how does he have a

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baby face run? I just don't. I don't see it anytime sim But

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I'm happy that Gunther's probably going to
surpass the intercontinal title ragin because I think

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Triple H wants one of his guys
to have that spot. By the way,

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think about if you think of Gunther's
two title rains he's had in this

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company, it's over a thousand days
on two title rings, because he had

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the UK title for over six hundred
days and now part of it that was

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because of the pandemic and stuff,
but six other days as UK champion over

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four days as Intercontinal champion, that's
pretty damn impressive. It is, it

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is, And that just goes to
show you how much like Triple H really

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likes and respects him, and and
I'm for that. I think I think

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next year twenty twenty four, if
I'm putting stock and a guy for having

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a big twenty twenty four, it
would be Gunther right now. So I

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think he is going to be somebody
that will be a you know, part

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of the face of the company here
in the next decade plus going forward.

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Next match here, Seth Freaking,
Rollins, ifeeding Finn Boaler retained the de

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w WE World Evweight Championship. We
both had Finn Balor after I convinced Doctor

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Trey to finally pick Finn Balor.
Great match, the final five minutes was

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a lot of fun. Looking forward
to seeing how they internal strife and the

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judgment day seming from this match plays
out, especially from what we saw this

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past Monday on Raw. Doctor Trey
initial thoughts here on the match Seth Freak

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and Rollins getting the victory. Damn
Jeff Peck forgetting me to change my pick.

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But you know, I really enjoyed
this match, and those guys have

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great chemistry. I mean the power
bomb spot that you know, Finn hit

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Seth on the floor, the top, the throwbacks to the match from seven

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years ago, you know, both
guys paying homage of that match with Seth

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coming out the original ring vests,
you know, Finn having the seven and

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then highlighting where the scar is on
his torn labor. I'm like, all

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that stuff is so good. The
match was good, Judgment day playing into

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it, the stuff with the briefcase, like, all that stuff was really

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really well done. You had me
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forward to seeing Finn with the title, and you know, Damien teasing the

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cash in the entire time, but
they're going in a different route, but

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the feud continues on and now you're
just sliding Cody Rhodes into the mix as

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well. Well, let's talk about
the great booking here. So there have

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been two times so far this year
where Cody Rhodes is in line to challenge

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Seth Rons. I think he did
it. Was going to do it after

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Money the Bank, looking towards SummerSlam
and Brock returned, and then that got

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stopped, like he was on the
verge of saying something from a microphone,

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and then Brock came out and then
they had that brawl, and then he

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does it after the Brock feud.
It looks like they're poised for most of

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the show that it's going to be
those two got to be feuding moving forward,

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heading to do I believe Payback in
September, and then Shinsky Kamara takes

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out Seth Rollins to close out Raw
this past week, which now makes you

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believe to believe that maybe Cody's gonna
go feud with Judgment for a little bit

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while Shin and Seth Rollins do some
sort of match at Payback. Thoughts on

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the way that they're booking this,
Doctor Trede, it seems like they're elastic

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banning a little bit where they dip
their toe just to touch to give you

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Cody versus Seth. Cody gonna be
setting a sights on the World of aweight

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championship, and then recently it was
like, okay, now the foot's in,

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He's getting in the water. But
then they kind of pull it back.

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If we're going to get Shinska and
Seth moving forward. Maybe they're saving

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this for Survivor series, maybe they're
saving this for Royal Rumble, but they're

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making the anticipation grow for an eventual
Seth Rollins Cody Rhodes World of aweight Championship

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match, which I'm digging. Do
you see it the same way that I

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am? Yeah, it's so we
were throwing back to old wrestling. It

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reminds me a little bit of Macho
Man Hogan, you know, back in

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the day where they're the two most
popular guys in the company. They would

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kind of tease stuff and then they
finally went full fledged. I don't know

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if they're gonna a full fledged,
you know, megapowers explode type of thing

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here. But you know we've talked
about the show. I hate heel heel

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matches and I hate baby face baby
face matches because the crowd isn't is into

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those as your traditional matchups. I
do think they're dipping their toes in the

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water to try and hedge their bets. Like I wouldn't be surprised if we

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had a match here the next couple
of months and that's when Priests cashes in,

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like where Cody actually wins the title, but then Priest cashes in and

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Cody only gets that short little run. To me, I'm still on board

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with Cody and Roman at next year's
WrestleMania for Cody to get the payback against

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Roman, but you know, they
may pull the trigger on it sooner and

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get him on with the World Heavyweight
Championship. Next matchers Bianca Belaire defeating Osca

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and Charlotte Flair, and a triple
front match to win the w W World

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WW Women's Championship almost called the Women's
World Heavyweight Championship, which is owned by

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Ray Ripley presently Osca, who we
had winning that match, did not.

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Both Doctor Trey and I fun triple
threat match. Some original spots I've never

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seen before in a triple threat match. I liked the Bianca bel Air injury

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angle that led into the next match, which we'll get to in just a

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second. But Doctor Trader thoughts on
the triple threat match, Yeah, actually

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that was so when the match started, like, okay, this is my

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chance at you take a break for
a minute. So I was able to

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go get some food and I came
back in for the last like eight minutes

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of it, and the last eight
minutes was fantastic. I had loved,

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you know, the Bianca injury spot. I like. By the way,

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kudos for WW whoever it was directing
the show, if it's Kevin Dunner somebody

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else, to not show the knee
hitting the stairs or the knee actually knee

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injury, but because otherwise that would
have given it away that it was,

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you know, a work, but
overall, like the match was really fine.

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It was a great finish, like
the miss in the face, the

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small package roll up while still in
the figure four. That's all stuff I've

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never seen before. So being a
wrestling fan of forty years is still see

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stuff you haven't seen before. It's
pretty great. A little surprised they had

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Bianca go over it, just because, like why I think it's a chase,

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Doctor Trey. I think it's all
about the chase, which we'll talk

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about the next match here. So
but yeah, overall, like it was

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a really really damn good women's tripple. Thresh by the way, before we

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move on, so we have the
women's championship in the women's heavyweight championship.

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Yeah, so does that mean nobody
under over or nobody under two or five

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pounds can challenge Rea Ripley, Doctor
Trey, you know how this goes.

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I mean that ship does not apply
anymore. I mean because Lord loves seth

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Rons. But I mean I think
you can make a case that he's probably

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like, what two fifteen, I
would say he's two oh six, So

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that way he's on. Who wasn't
the had the oh was the back of

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the cruisery division where we had was
Buddy, Yeah, Buddy, Matthews had

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to constantly keep you on the way
he is. I think we need to

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have Seth have every a prop way
in to make sure they're over two oh

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five so they can challenge him,
because Finn would not be over two h

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five. I'm with you. I
just think it's to be world champion,

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WE champion, stuff like that not
universal. I am not a fan of

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that name for a title, but
yeah, I am totally with you on

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all that stuff. Next match here
is EO Sky defeating Bianco Belair to win

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the WE Women's Championship. We obviously
did not predict this match, so EO

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Sky cashes in gets the victory is
the new women's champion after defeating the brand

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new women's champion, Bianco Belair.
It was starting to feel like a cashing

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was possible once Bianco won, but
it was a nice surprise ultimately to see

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the Eo climb the mountain and win
the championship. It'll be interesting to see

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how this plays out with Bianco being
injured. Overcoming the obstacle to the injury

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by winning the championship back, only
to lose it in a matter of minutes

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to EO Sky. It was also
great to see Dakota Kai back to celebrate

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as well, because she deserved that
moment. Damage Control deserved that moment a

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group that was kind of floundering the
last six to eight months, and here

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we are EO Sky climbing the mountain
Doctor Tree. I'm happy for EO.

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She's awesome, So congratulations to her. Yeah, I love EO. She's

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also there the one who introduced me
to music by Poppy, so I'm thankful

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to that as well. I actually
don't like I like Poppy. She's actually

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pretty good musicians, So yeah,
no, look, this is really cool.

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Like I've been a big EO fan
ever since her time in n XT.

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I love where she went crazy and
everything else, So I'm really happy

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about this. It's, also,
like you said, kind of brings up

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the level of damage Control again.
And then where does Bailey fit in this?

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Because you saw Bailey out there right
decide EO cleaning house to help EO

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get the win. But you know
Bailey's and Alpha so does this, and

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they had tension all the you know, the last few months as well,

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since Dakota's injury, So does Bailey
turn on EO and make EO a baby

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face? And how does that play
in? And then I don't know if

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you saw this report, but Kyrie's
saying maybe coming back to w W as

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well, great minds think alike here. That was gonna be the next thing

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I brought up. So reports coming
out over the weekend, Kyro you saying

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is honor way back to due with
November being a potential return date Kabuki Warriors

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maybe reunion. But it looks like
Kyrie is not gonna be sticking around bushy

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roads stardom New Japan. The face
there's Mercedes Mona had some offers reportedly from

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AW. She decides to go back
to the company that she knows and that

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is WWW. So good big signing
here by WWE. Kyrie saying back in

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the fold, and we'll have to
see where where this takes us. Maybe

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we're kind of seeing the seeds being
planted right now with a Kyrie same return.

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Yeah, and then maybe you know, EO, Osca and Kyrie all

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work together, or we get Kabuki
Warriors and damage control. Like I don't

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know, I think the crowd actually
really wants to cheer damage control like they.

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I mean, everybody loves Bailey.
Bailey is he heals great? Bailey

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is a baby face, is great. Eo wrestles like a baby face.

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Everybody likes Dakota as well, So
you know, I could see them going

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that route as well. And then
how does Bianca and Charlotte fit back into

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this picture that all of a sudden
got really really crowded at the top.

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Well, that's what I was going
to ask you here, So you know,

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the potential road could be that Bianca
got cheated out of her championship at

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nine of champions right, she got
the mist in the eyes. I think

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Oscar sprayed it on her fingers,
got it in her eyes. That's how

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she got the victory. She finally
wins a championship back she's injured, but

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then Eo Sky cashes in. So
now you could be getting the direction of

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she's fighting back for you know,
trying to overcome adversity, Bianca belair,

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or you go the route where she
continues to get cheated out that Brett Hart

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cry baby era which helped turned her
turn him heel. I love Bianca as

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a baby face, but if you
go back to those NXC days, Bianca

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as a heel was pretty damn amazing
as well, and that's she was a

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heel predominantly. I don't think there
was ever a time that she was a

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baby face and NXC and I felt
like she's been getting stale a little bit

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lately, and I feel like maybe
a heel turns coming because fans do want

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to cheer on EO Sky Doctor Trey. I feel Bianca there are times that

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they want to make her the female
John Cena and you know, not Turner.

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00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:11.839
But once again, I think Bianca's
stuff's a little stale. I agree

403
00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:15.240
with you that the crowd wants to
cheer EO. Plus you have the tie

404
00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:18.359
in with whatever they do with Bobby
lash in the street profits. You know,

405
00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:22.559
are the profits turning heel and going
with Lashley? If they do that,

406
00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:26.880
could Bianca join them because we you
know, and then have that rival

407
00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:30.599
group to actually what Judgment day is. So there are ways to go with

408
00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:33.359
this, and like you said,
I agree that I think the crowd wants

409
00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:36.799
to cheer EO. The only thing
is, once again, where do you

410
00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:41.279
fit Charlotte is because as much as
we all respect Charlotte, Charlotte as a

411
00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:45.440
baby face never works, so I
kind of liked her playing that tweenter role

412
00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:49.279
between Bianca and Osca. So it's
gonna be interesting to see how they fit

413
00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:53.400
her into this picture as well,
because I mean, I mean, there's

414
00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:56.400
reports out that they want her to
be a seventeen time Women's Champion, and

415
00:27:56.519 --> 00:28:00.240
she's only two away from that number, So how does she fit in it?

416
00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:04.480
Because there's also reports I read that
she was to go into professional bodybuilding

417
00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:08.680
more and take more time away from
WWE. Yeah, it's interesting times from

418
00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:11.680
the woman division and how they're going
to go about this. Obviously, creative

419
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:17.400
has an idea as always, or
audience's organic reactions may change all that.

420
00:28:17.599 --> 00:28:21.480
So I think it's a pretty cool
time to see how these SmackDown Woman's division

421
00:28:21.559 --> 00:28:23.359
is going to be going forward.
And then finally the main event here of

422
00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:27.519
Roman Rains defeats Jay Usso in a
tribal combat match to retain the undisputed go

423
00:28:27.640 --> 00:28:33.279
to a Universal championship and recognition as
the tribal chief. We both had Roman

424
00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:36.880
Rains getting the victory. Good match, great storytelling. I'm interesting how the

425
00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:40.400
Jimmy Usso turn plays out on television
heading into the Payback pay per view.

426
00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:44.599
The Bloodline storyline continues to be really
good and taking turns that you least expect,

427
00:28:44.920 --> 00:28:48.640
like Jimmy Ussos turning on Jay since
Jay went to this match to defend

428
00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:52.279
his brother's honor after he was laid
out by Roman and Solo. What's good

429
00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:56.200
about this storyline stuff is when you
think it's going one way, it goes

430
00:28:56.240 --> 00:29:00.839
another. That's when you have a
lot of good professional wrest in storylines.

431
00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:06.279
I know this match is quite debated
post Summer Slam, right now, I

432
00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:08.680
enjoyed it, Doctor Trey, what
were your thoughts here as Roman Reigns defeated

433
00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:14.039
Jay Usso, yeah, I enjoyed
it, and it got me to buy

434
00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:18.079
in more into Jay being a main
event guy. I know that's his nickname

435
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:21.599
because he may invented a town of
Smackdowns, but main eventing pay per views

436
00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:26.200
is different. Like, this was
really really entertaining. It helped elevate j

437
00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:30.880
upper level. You got the sympathy
factor of his own twin brother turning on

438
00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:33.960
him, which I'm gonna be interested
in SmackDown because I want to see how

439
00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:37.319
they tell this story because, like
you said, he went in this match

440
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:42.680
defending his brother it was his brother
that turned on Roman first. So it's

441
00:29:42.759 --> 00:29:47.920
like, all right, and then
I'm gonna be interested like who they move

442
00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:53.000
into, you know, side with
Jay in this because the one thing SmackDown

443
00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:59.000
really hasn't done is helped elevate the
next baby face up because all the baby

444
00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:02.680
faces that Roman had kind of defeated
and moved over to raw. So who

445
00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:07.519
do you slide up into that into
that space between now and Survivors series.

446
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:11.359
So the whole situations, like you
said, just when you think it's going

447
00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:15.079
one way, it goes another.
Now the whole situation is kind of influx.

448
00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:18.960
Maybe it's solo because we saw a
little bit of tension at Summer Slam

449
00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:22.200
was solo in Romans. So I'm
gonna be interesting to see how they played

450
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:26.480
this story out and where it goes
from here, because right now, like

451
00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:30.599
it's entertaining, but you're kind of
at that weird cross roads where we're like

452
00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:33.640
it could either go really really well
and keep me entertained, or you know,

453
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:37.160
are they going to jump the shark
so to speak. We'll get into

454
00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:41.799
a little bit more about the Jimmy
and Jay stuff here momentarily, but Paper

455
00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:44.559
View Prediction Records coming out of SummerSlam, I went six and two. Doctor

456
00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:47.519
Trey went five and three. On
the year, I'm at seventy two and

457
00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:52.160
twenty five Doctor Trey sixty six and
thirty one. Match of the night and

458
00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:56.720
event rating. I gave Summer Slam
a four point three out of five and

459
00:30:56.799 --> 00:30:59.640
my match of the night was Cody
Roads and brock Lessner Doctor Trey. What

460
00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:03.319
say you? I was four point
two, so I was a little bit

461
00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:04.960
under you, but I also had
Cody and Brock. I decided that was

462
00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:11.799
really great storytelling and the very like
old school in new school blended properly.

463
00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:15.720
So there you go. I agree
with you absolutely and that for you.

464
00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:18.960
And again we talked about it here. The last couple of months caught us

465
00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:21.559
by surprise. We weren't in favor
of it, and then they quickly want

466
00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:23.680
us over. So props to Cody
and Brock and Match and I for both

467
00:31:23.759 --> 00:31:26.480
Doctor Trey and I four point three
to four point two ratings as well.

468
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:32.240
So another solid pay per view from
World West Entertainment. And now they move

469
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:37.039
on towards Payback. But in a
couple of weeks it'll be all about AWS,

470
00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:41.519
all in and all out. We'll
be taking our attention moving forward here

471
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:45.240
and we'll talk about all in London
here soon. Jimmy US Versus j US

472
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:49.759
it's coming up here, Doctor Trey. You can make a case like Damn,

473
00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:52.000
I don't want to see the US's
break up. They're the greatest tag

474
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:56.279
team of all time. They're probably
right now in their prime, the greatest

475
00:31:56.359 --> 00:32:00.880
prime of any tag team we've ever
seen in the history of WI and professional

476
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:06.119
wrestling ever because of how elevated they
are, I mean, headlining WrestleMania is

477
00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:08.519
no other tag team can say they've
ever done that right now, other than

478
00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:14.119
Kevin Owens and Sammy Zane also,
but like a legit, we came in

479
00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:16.960
day one as a tag team and
main event and WrestleMania. No one else

480
00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:22.119
gonna say that like the USOS.
So now we're getting this Jimmy versus Jay

481
00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:24.119
layer to it. As you and
I recorded the show. Obviously, we

482
00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:29.759
have not seen SmackDown because it airs
on Friday. We don't know why Jimmy

483
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:31.920
did what he did. The setup
for this match was perfect I thought in

484
00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:36.960
SummerSlam going into it, and then
the turn of Jimmy on Jay was something

485
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:42.200
I did not predict and really enjoyed
seeing. With that said, I look

486
00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:45.759
at this and all I could think
about is back in nineteen ninety three.

487
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:51.559
November nineteen ninety three, I came
home to sit down and watch Survivor series

488
00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:54.680
at my parents' house. I was
a young six seven year old at that

489
00:32:54.759 --> 00:33:00.400
point, and I was looking forward
to the Heart Family taking on Jerry Lawler

490
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:02.160
and his Knights. Well, Jerry
Lawler got in a little bit of trouble

491
00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:07.440
and then the Knights were led by
Shawn Michaels. In that match, Owen

492
00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:10.960
Hart turned on Brett Hart and the
family. Or is actually what happened was

493
00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:15.400
he was the only one that was
eliminated because everybody was tending to I think

494
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:20.960
Brett who was knocked off the apron. They were feuding around Christmas time.

495
00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:24.319
They reconciled and then they went to
a tag team match at Royal Rumble nineteen

496
00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:28.920
ninety four where Brett and Owen would
be taken on the Quebecers. Brett got

497
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:32.559
hurt in that match with his knee
and they lost Owen. At the end

498
00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:35.920
of the match, they were,
you know, Owen you could tell was

499
00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:39.240
visibly upset, but they're trying to
make amends and he kicks the knee out,

500
00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:45.119
the bad knee out from underneath Brett
Hart and starts a huge feud with

501
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:49.039
Brett Hart that goes on for about
three years until they reconcile and create the

502
00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:53.160
Heart Foundation, just prior to Brett's
exit from WWE for a very long time.

503
00:33:53.880 --> 00:34:00.640
So now we have a potential similar
Brett versus Owen Hart with Jimmy and

504
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:02.400
Jay and Brett versus Owen is one
of my favorite feuds of all time.

505
00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:07.039
It got me into professional wrestling to
the degree that I am right now.

506
00:34:07.720 --> 00:34:12.800
Do you think this Jimmy and Jay
usso feud could be on that level of

507
00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:19.920
Brett versus Owen. I don't know
if it'll be on that level because of

508
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:25.159
one caveati that there's the cool factor
for me, which is these are twins.

509
00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:30.239
They literally for the better part of
their entire run in w B,

510
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:34.880
I couldn't tell them apart. Thankfully, of the last couple of years.

511
00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:37.760
They have different hairstyles, so I
can kind of distinguish them now, but

512
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:43.119
for the most part could never tell
them apart. The Owen Brett thing was

513
00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:47.119
little brother, big brother, and
almost anybody that has a brother can relate

514
00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:53.119
to that the twin aspect of it
is a little bit of a different dynamic.

515
00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:59.719
Also, you know, Brett had
already been a world champion. O

516
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:02.679
was still looking for his place.
You know, Jimmy and Jay have been

517
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:06.960
equals the entire time, Like neither
of them have a singles championship. You

518
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:09.719
know, they've never won tag team
championships without the other. So it's a

519
00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:15.239
little bit different in that level because
there's not a top guy feuding with his

520
00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:20.599
little brother. These are guys who
are perceived to be on very similar levels.

521
00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:25.440
I think the twin aspect of it
could help the dynamic, but I

522
00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:29.360
just don't know if they're on that
level of where Brett Nohan were. And

523
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:32.360
I mean, you can't relate to
having a twin brother. I can't really

524
00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:36.679
tapping a twin brother. I can
really having a little brother. And you

525
00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:39.639
know, we always bumped heads a
lot growing up, just because you know,

526
00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:43.119
I was good at certain things.
He was trying to get on my

527
00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:45.239
level. He was better other things
than me, and I was always trying

528
00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:49.159
to compete with him. So it's
gonna be an interesting dynamic because we had

529
00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:52.840
a little bit with you know,
Solo and Jay. That's little brother,

530
00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:55.519
big brother. But you know,
Jimmy and Jay is a different dynamic.

531
00:35:55.599 --> 00:36:00.360
It's like having a Bree and Nikki
had a feud that would they did,

532
00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:04.000
and that was not good. No, And that's what I'm worried about,

533
00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:07.119
because you know, it's it's well, there's wasn't good because neither of them

534
00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:09.960
could really wrestle for that time when
they were actually in a feud, but

535
00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:15.599
some of the worst vignettes of all
times as well. But I did see

536
00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:21.320
an interview with Jay recently or he
said his dream match was to wrestle Jimmy.

537
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:25.039
So I'm really on board and cool
with this because you know, we

538
00:36:25.159 --> 00:36:29.320
talked on this show a lot.
Best friends, like real life best friends.

539
00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:32.400
Would they have feuds? They're great
matches. This is real life twin

540
00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:37.239
brothers. I mean, who would
you trust more than your twin brother in

541
00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:40.199
a match to keep you safe?
So I think the matches would be great.

542
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:44.920
I just don't know if you know
thirty years or you know, thirty

543
00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:47.599
years from now, you're referring to
nineteen ninety's thirty years ago. If thirty

544
00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:50.719
years from now, I'd be like, hey, remember that Jimmy and Jay

545
00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:53.280
feud. I just don't know if
it's gonna be a full fledged feud or

546
00:36:53.519 --> 00:36:58.639
just you know, kind of a
one off thing to reunite the bloodline.

547
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:02.320
So Bruss some interesting points there where
Owen was the little brother chasing the big

548
00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:07.480
brother. At that point, Brett
was a one time w World champion,

549
00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:12.159
I think, multiple Interconal champion,
tag team title reins King of the Ring

550
00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:14.320
at that point, and so he's
really in the shadow of his brother.

551
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:20.119
Could you make a similar case though
with Jimmy looking at Jay, because Jay

552
00:37:20.719 --> 00:37:25.760
has been hugely successful during these last
three years of this bloodline storyline. I

553
00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:30.360
mean he I mean remember that he
won like a number one contender Battle Royal.

554
00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:34.559
Then that started the whole Bloodline stuff, and he was battling Roman I

555
00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:37.559
think in Helen a Cell and we
were like, man, what is Jay

556
00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:43.239
usso during this doing in this spot? And he won everybody over and a

557
00:37:43.280 --> 00:37:45.480
couple of weeks ago we talked on
them about on the show like he's the

558
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:49.639
most compelling wrestler in all of the
game right now, Like fans seem to

559
00:37:49.719 --> 00:37:52.880
really be gravitating towards him, and
he has been. He got a great

560
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:55.119
reaction on Friday Night SmackDown. That
carried over to SummerSlam as well, where

561
00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:59.159
he was getting the crowd to like
really be into his entrance and it was

562
00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:02.039
really cool to see, Like Jay
has a ton of chrisma. While I

563
00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:06.079
get the point of the comparisons that
we're trying to make you with Brett Nowen,

564
00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:08.320
it is similar in a way as
well. I think it's like fifty

565
00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:14.880
percent Brett Nohen and then like fifty
percent Sean and Marty Jannetti, where Jimmy

566
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:20.239
is becoming the Marty Jeannetti of this
group and Jay is starting to surpass.

567
00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:23.519
I mean call it like you see
if they're both extremely talented, and I

568
00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:28.519
really like both of them, but
from a creative booking standpoint, Jay has

569
00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:34.639
far exceeded any expectations and Jimmy really
hasn't climbed that much yet. If they

570
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:37.599
do a long term feud here they
do a short term feud, Jimmy could

571
00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:43.760
be on that same level. So
I feel like that there is the jealousy

572
00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:47.440
that comes to these brothers storylines,
these siblings storylines, and I feel like

573
00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:52.920
it's fifty percent Brett Nohen and fifty
percent Sean and Marty right now, Yeah,

574
00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:57.400
No, that I can see because
you can play in the Jealzy angle

575
00:38:57.480 --> 00:39:02.480
because it was supposedly the elder that
selected Jay for this match to be travel

576
00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:07.400
combat, not Jimmy. If you
go back a few weeks ago, it

577
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:12.519
was Jimmy that told Roman that Jay
should not be a tribal chief, you

578
00:39:12.599 --> 00:39:15.719
know. So there is that aspect
of it, you know, and Jimmy's

579
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:17.679
can always you know, bring up
the fact that, like Jimmy's the one

580
00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:21.360
who's been injured more, you know, you go back to that first Hell

581
00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:23.280
to Cell, Jimmy was out with
injury, and then we had the Dui

582
00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:29.599
stuff as well, So Jimmy's had
more bad luck and bad breaks than Jay,

583
00:39:29.719 --> 00:39:34.360
and Jay's been able to capitalize on
it. But it's like I said,

584
00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:37.519
that twin dynamic is gonna be so
interesting to see how they play this

585
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:40.119
thing out, uh, you know, and then where does Solo fall in

586
00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:45.039
everything else? Because I could see
them almost doing a reverse, you know,

587
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:47.039
from a couple of months ago and
seeing Roman and Jimmy against Solo and

588
00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:52.079
Jay. So it's if they do
a short term for you, and I

589
00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:54.360
think it helps Jay, not Jimmy, But if they do a longer term

590
00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:57.920
for you, This could be the
thing that you mentioned with Owen and Brett

591
00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:01.760
where Jimmy gets the credibilit that Jay
already has in the eyes of the fans.

592
00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:06.800
Yeah, I mean we kind of
saw the Solo Roman wrinkle there with

593
00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:09.920
the spear and so a little being
upset and staring at him, and the

594
00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:15.519
times that Solo is looking at Roman
have been pretty compelling as well. So

595
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:20.239
it's a layer to the storyline I
did not see. It has me excited

596
00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:23.119
days later after someone Summer sim going
to see where things go. And it

597
00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:27.760
also is more than likely going to
be taking Roman off a television here for

598
00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:30.639
a little bit where I just can't
see him performing at Payback. I know

599
00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:35.400
that there's an injury to Roman Reigns
that happened early on in the match with

600
00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:39.039
Ju, so I think the latest
support from Fightful is that it isn't isn't

601
00:40:39.079 --> 00:40:42.920
that serious that should keep him out
at any length of time, which is

602
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:45.960
great for us as wrestling fans.
You know, the last time Roman,

603
00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:52.159
outside of this past Saturday, defended
the Universal Championship was actually wrestle mating against

604
00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:54.880
Cody, so it isn't out of
the roma possibility that the next time Roman

605
00:40:54.920 --> 00:41:00.599
Defensis Championship could be Survivor Series in
November given the gap that we saw in

606
00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:05.119
between. So I'm excited for Jimmy
and Jay. It could keep things going

607
00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:07.360
forward here on SmackDown, we'll see
the role that Solo Soko plays and we'll

608
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:10.719
see where all this heads on Friday
SmackDown, where I believe there's like a

609
00:41:10.840 --> 00:41:15.440
re acknowledgement ceremony or something like that
that are like a Hail to the Chief

610
00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:20.960
ceremony that they're doing with Jimmy Usso
towards Romans. So I'm excited because Brett

611
00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:22.519
Nowen is one of my favorite storylines
of all time, and I think the

612
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:27.360
relatable siblings storyline, when played out
correctly not Nikki and Burrie, can be

613
00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:32.079
a really really good stuff on WW
television. Speaking of Roman reigns here,

614
00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:36.320
Doctor Trey, there was report going
into Summer Slam. I believe on Saturday

615
00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:44.119
I read it that Romans WWE title
reign will end when quote whenever Roman reigns

616
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:50.400
and Paul Hayman Effens say end quote. I don't know if there's any truth

617
00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:54.360
to this at all, but it
obviously comes off very egotistical. I think

618
00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:58.480
the thing that I take away from
it when you when you just kind of

619
00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:01.599
think and it's wow. Really,
how they're going about this is more like

620
00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:07.000
when Roman decides to go to Hollywood, Like that, to me is what

621
00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:10.000
we're going to see at some point
here, Roman's gonna go in the footsteps

622
00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:15.880
of Rock Sina, what have you. But when you look at this,

623
00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:20.239
it's like, wow, Like if
that's legit? What's thinking? Like whenever

624
00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:24.159
they whenever they decide it's over,
it's over. That's pretty bad ass because

625
00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:28.719
a three year title rain coming up
here in a couple of weeks, and

626
00:42:29.159 --> 00:42:32.760
most of the time when that happens, wrestling fans are like, oh shit,

627
00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:37.360
they're just you know, jam and
x y Z wrestler down our throat

628
00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:39.880
here. You know, John Cena
is being jammed down our throat here time

629
00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:44.280
and time again. I have never
once felt that way in three years,

630
00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:46.199
and in fact, I wanted to
hold on it. If it's going to

631
00:42:46.239 --> 00:42:51.519
continue to be like this great of
storylines and matches, I want Roman hold

632
00:42:51.559 --> 00:42:54.840
on to it as long as possible
as possible. So I'm down with whenever

633
00:42:55.000 --> 00:43:00.440
Roman and Paul Hamman decide it's over. So I, by the way,

634
00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:02.679
first off, I forgot to mention
this when we're doing the recap. Props

635
00:43:02.719 --> 00:43:07.280
to Roman for taking those leather strap
shots because everyone he got hit with cut

636
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:10.039
him open. I don't know if
you notice that, Like, but the

637
00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:13.920
elbow was bleeding bad. The next
shot him in the back and instantly he

638
00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:16.360
was bleeding from it. I'm like, that's a dude that you know doesn't

639
00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:21.039
have to take stuff like that,
and he did, so I gave him

640
00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:23.280
a lot of props for that.
I read a similar report where it said

641
00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:28.800
the other way that belt comes off
him is if with the approval of Vince

642
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:32.519
and Roman, So like, if
if Vince is behind it, Roman's got

643
00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:37.559
the poll. Yeah, it might
be a long time coming, but you're

644
00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:42.360
absolutely right. Like, I know
there are some of the casual fans that

645
00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:46.119
are kind of sick of Roman being
on top. But once again, like

646
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:50.960
you look at the roster, there's
a lot of talented guys on the roster,

647
00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:55.360
but is there anybody that could put
together a storyline like this and be

648
00:43:55.519 --> 00:44:01.000
as compelling and not just compelling in
this sense of like we've seen Roman doing

649
00:44:01.079 --> 00:44:05.639
comedy, We've seen Roman doing you
know, serious stuff. We've seen Roman

650
00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:10.679
the bully, We've seen Roman joking
around like this run of his has shown

651
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:17.320
more depth to his character than maybe
the previous ten years he had in WWE.

652
00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:22.960
So it's really great television with a
great character. So it's hard for

653
00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:25.760
me to go I want to you
know, I need a different character.

654
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:30.559
No, it's a damn good television
character that we've seen run now for three

655
00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:34.840
years. If it was a TV
show, we'd be clamoring for more of

656
00:44:34.920 --> 00:44:37.960
it. But because it's wrestling and
people like new stuff. Uh, you

657
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:40.719
know, you hear some people groaning
about it, but I'm with you,

658
00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:44.960
like, I'm on board for it. I like the run. It's helped

659
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:50.079
elevate a bunch of people around him. Although I think Solo has somehow learned

660
00:44:50.360 --> 00:44:53.440
learned to not speak English in this
run, because I'm pretty sure he spoke

661
00:44:53.480 --> 00:44:59.639
pretty good English in NXT, but
somehow this process. After the spear,

662
00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:02.400
he was just point at his stomach
and growl like Mike Toddler, like Sammy

663
00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:07.360
does when he's hungry. Hey listen, we all we all lose that language

664
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:10.239
once you make the man roster call
up. But yeah, we're here for

665
00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:15.559
it. Let the Roman reigns Toddle
right continue is if he wants to continue

666
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:17.880
wrestling and feels like he should be
a champion. They've done nothing wrong for

667
00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:22.679
nearly three years. I am here
for it, every storyline, every match.

668
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:25.480
It is one of the greatest runs
I've ever seen professional wrestling. It's

669
00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:30.360
been so enjoyable and I'm not hating
on at all, and i don't feel

670
00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:34.400
like I've seen too much. I've
wanted to see Moore in fact, so

671
00:45:34.679 --> 00:45:37.400
great stuff. I'm here for it. Whenever you guys fucking say is fine

672
00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:43.239
with me. And then finally to
wrap things up here with ALI Wrestling,

673
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:47.360
no more WI Talk, it was
announced All in London will be headlined with

674
00:45:47.480 --> 00:45:52.039
the AW World Championship match. MJF
taken on Adam Cole. We've seen MJF

675
00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:55.960
take on this baby face persona.
Adam Cole has gotten this out of him.

676
00:45:57.360 --> 00:46:01.039
They seem to be buddy buddy.
It's been a strange turn, a

677
00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:06.880
strange storyline, but a storyline that
is different and fun and new, and

678
00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:09.920
I'm enjoying it and being entertained.
But I simply ask you, doctor Troy

679
00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:15.320
Wembley Stadium. Over seventy seven thousand
tickets sold right now. MGF and Adam

680
00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:17.360
Cold the headline and for the AW
World Championship. Is this the right call

681
00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:23.239
up if you're trying to grow the
company and you know both these guys are

682
00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:28.960
going to be around for a while. Yeah, My question is MJ has

683
00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:32.079
contracts up next year. Adam Cole, it's kind of a Triple H guy.

684
00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:37.599
You know, that was the guy
when when the Saudi Arabia flights got

685
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:40.760
canceled, we got to show up
NXT and a SmackDown. Who was the

686
00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:45.159
guy Triple H picked to headline SmackDown? Adam Cole? So it's a little

687
00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:50.320
bit of on paper, if these
are my two bankable stars and this is

688
00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:52.440
who I'm trying to help build this
thing around, it makes a ton of

689
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:54.280
sense. But once again, both
these guys could be gone in a year,

690
00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:57.840
so then you kind of have to
question it a little bit. But

691
00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:00.320
I'm fine with it. Are they
the biggest stars in the company. No,

692
00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:06.760
But is the best storyline going in
the company? Yeah, and you

693
00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:08.760
still got a little time to make
it a little more intense heading into it.

694
00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:14.079
So yeah, I'm good with it. And it's probably the right call

695
00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:19.000
by Tony Kahn long term for AW
to have these guys headlining. Yeah,

696
00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:22.440
It's a cool call, It's an
interesting call. It may not be the

697
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:25.599
main event in the eyes of the
fans, depending on whatever they decide to

698
00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:29.480
do here for All in Wembley going
on right now, but it was the

699
00:47:29.480 --> 00:47:32.239
first match that was announced. We're
still waiting on FTR Young Bucks to become

700
00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:37.159
official, but I do feel like
this is the right call. It's been

701
00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:42.480
the few that's been taken over the
summer. It's been a very enjoyable storyline

702
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:46.559
and I'm intrigued to see how we
get to all in London right now?

703
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:51.719
Is this baby face m jeff for
real? Are they going to remain buddy?

704
00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:57.760
Buddy? Is the devil still in
there? I don't know. We

705
00:47:57.840 --> 00:48:04.960
saw a after air, off air
promo or way that MJFF carried himself when

706
00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:07.840
they thanked Tony KHN for two hundred
episodes of Dynamite recently, and he was

707
00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:13.840
all baby face and it wasn't a
type of character or stick. Maybe it's

708
00:48:13.880 --> 00:48:16.519
here, Maybe it's here to stay. He was defending the women's division recently

709
00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:20.960
on Twitter. I mean, he
completely went off of the normal character that

710
00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:23.960
we've seen from MJFF. Maybe this
is they finally pulled the trigger on the

711
00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:29.039
baby face MJFF. We're gonna probably
be talking about that in the coming weeks

712
00:48:29.079 --> 00:48:32.000
here heading into All In. But
is this the right call to headline All

713
00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:37.000
in London. Absolutely, It's been
the focus of a double over the last

714
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:42.800
several weeks and makes a ton of
sense. So MJFF Adam Cole will be

715
00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:47.000
headlining All in London Wembley Stadium again. We'll be getting you ready for All

716
00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:51.199
in London all out here in the
coming weeks. It'll be here before you

717
00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:53.039
know it, and then we'll have
preview, predictions, recap and reviews for

718
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:58.199
both those shows, All In,
All Out, All In towards the end

719
00:48:58.199 --> 00:49:00.920
of the month as we close up
summer. Unfortunately. With that said,

720
00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:05.079
let's close up this week's edition of
the show by getting a couple of plugs

721
00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:07.559
and sponsors out of the way.
You can downlo the show every Thursday or

722
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723
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726
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727
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that being said, what's going on
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728
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Franklin this week? Well, like
Jeff said, you can follow me on

729
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You can find me on Instagram and Facebook

730
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Doctor tre Franklin when you're on Facebook. I got rocket Stage Championship Wrestling and

731
00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:50.159
Spartan Championship Wrestling my favorite shows here
in the Alabama area. And by the

732
00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:53.960
way, folks, I was not
involved in the riverboat brawl that everybody is

733
00:49:53.960 --> 00:50:00.440
seeing sparking up, although I actually
know that location and it's right It's right

734
00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:04.239
down the road from one of my
offices, so I know it very well.

735
00:50:04.280 --> 00:50:07.599
But now, between the riverboat fight
and the Leprichn video of years past

736
00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:14.159
and uh all the guy that they
said they out here raping everybody, those

737
00:50:14.239 --> 00:50:16.679
all three of those videos are from
Alabama. So yeah, that should be

738
00:50:16.679 --> 00:50:21.480
on our tourism board. Hey,
anybody wants to see that Lepricn say yeah,

739
00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:25.719
yeah, one of my favorite Internet
videos of all times, that one.

740
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So there you go, support all
the great things that support SR to

741
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you and join us on next week's
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742
00:50:34.679 --> 00:50:37.320
again we get you ready for all
in and All Out, and that will

743
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:42.639
be on August the seventeen, So
until next week. For Dr F Franklin,

744
00:50:42.679 --> 00:50:45.800
I'm Jeff Pack. Thank you for
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745
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Real good show. Didn't didn't didn't
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