Nov. 22, 2023
WWE Survivor Series: WarGames Preview & AEW Full Gear Recap | The Still Real to Us Show | Episode #719 – 11/23/23
On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:
- -- We recap & review "AEW Full Gear!"
- -- Did AEW have an edge in signing Will Ospreay or is the WWE business model flawed for big signings?
- -- Does WWE think they already lost "the bidding war...
On this episode of The Still Real to Us Show:
- -- We recap & review "AEW Full Gear!"
- -- Did AEW have an edge in signing Will Ospreay or is the WWE business model flawed for big signings?
- -- Does WWE think they already lost "the bidding war of 2024" for MJF before it ever got started?
- -- And we preview & predict "WWE Survivor Series: WarGames!"
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It's still welcome everybody. Welcome to
this week's edition mister A Realta Show EPISOD
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number seven, nineteen November twenty third, twenty twenty three. This is your
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aw Pole Deer Recap and w WEE
sur Robert Series, more Games, the
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Review and for addictions edition of ass
R Team You. I am One Apple
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the Show. I Am Jack Peck
joined every single week on call with Tomorrow
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on the Doctor Trey Franklin, Doctor
Trey, Happy Thanksgiving, my Friend.
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Okay, you went with the most
basic. I thought you're gonna ask me
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if I've ever drank somebody's blood.
I thought You're gonna asking if I've ever
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worn a devil's mask. I thought
you were asking if if I hear voices
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in my head? And you went
with Happy Thanksgiving with Jeff, Happy thanks
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my friend, Happy Thanksgiving. You
know, I think any other week I
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would have absolutely opened up with something
along those lines. I like the Hangman
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page reference that you started off with
because it freaked the hell out of me
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on Saturday night. But yeah,
this is it's this is one of those
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shows we've done now for thirteen years
of SRTU, starting off in twenty ten
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and once we switched over from Saturday
to Thursdays, we have always done a
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Thanksgiving show. I've always said,
if you need to get away from family
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for a little bit and you want
to listen to two guys talk about professional
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wrestling for forty minutes to an hour, this is your cup of tea right
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now. And I don't know.
This has always been like a good catapult
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for me for the Thanksgiving holiday,
get the holiday season going, and slowly
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whine down the year. So I'm
in a good festive holiday mood, doctor
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Tree, because it's one of my
favorite, if not my favorite holiday now,
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Thanksgiving. And it's weird how we
have it's everything's progressed as we lounch
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the show because for a while,
Survivor series kind of became an afterthought for
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a little while, Like when the
show first started, like that we weren't
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doing anything, you know, we
didn't have war games, we weren't doing
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like we already had a battleground show, so it wasn't really brand bursts brand.
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It was kind of almost you know, Survivor Seris was having left in
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the background, and none of the
other brands were really doing big Thanksgiving shows,
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so we would do our favorite tag
teams or our best of our favorite
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Thanksgiving moments or things like that.
So and then now we live in a
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world where it was like, oh, there's like four big there's all these
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companies running all these big wrestling shows
on right around Thanksgiving. So we don't
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get to tell the fans the top
five things that wrestling we're most thankful for
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because we have excuse me, preview
up, the adictions and recaps. I'm
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so sorry about that. By bad
like we talked about off air, but
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there's always recaps, previous predictions,
everything else, and was I started to
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catch up the Jeff so he doesn't
make me say this year, which he
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forgot about last year. So yeah, it's totally fine. It's we've kind
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of gone past it. I feel
like we've been done that last like the
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three years of doing the prediction stuff
and more or less just now something we
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can keep track of and has some
fun. But yeah, I mean doctor
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Trey doing a ton of callbacks to
I remember like five things that we were
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thankful for in professional wrestling that wasn't
always a good show to put in the
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books for Thanksgiving or you know,
things that are tied to Thanksgiving as wrestling
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fans, I always remember us telling
the stories of for me, like Survivor
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Series ninety three was one of those
shows that got me into professional wrestling.
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And how much you know Thanksgiving holiday
was a big wrestling holiday, like they
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would do Survivor Series on Thanksgiving.
Doctor Trey talking about watching wrestling with his
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grandmother, you know, during the
Thanksgiving holidays, Like it's it's stuff like
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that that ties us all into this
holiday professional Wrestlane. But like Doctor Trey
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said, there is a ton of
stuff going on professional wrest right now sandwiched
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in between like a good Thanksgiving leftover. On Friday afternoon, two major pay
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per views from two different major United
States companies. Let's start with aw full
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gear recap review. Doctor Trade came
to us this past Saturday from the Key
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Of Forum in Inglewood, California.
We had three pre show matches, the
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first being Eddie Kingston defeeding Jay Lethal
to retain the ROH World Championship. We
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did not predict this one. This
actually had a storyline leading into it,
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which is pretty cool to see,
which is a theme for this entire show.
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I want to preface this all by
saying that this was one of the
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better creatively booked shows that AW has
done in some time, because there was
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a storyline tied to every single match, which there are times that AW does
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not do that. They just throw
matches together and it makes you scratch you
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had, It makes you go like, why should I give a shit?
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So I want to preface it by
saying that ed even with the pre show,
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I'm not a fan of ROH World
CHAMPIONSIP being on the pre show zero
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Hour, but nonetheless, Eddie Kingston
defeats Jay Lethal in a good, solid
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match what you expect from Kingston and
Lethal, and it was an enjoyable start
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to the pre show Doctor Trey.
Yeah, and even having a stokely Hathaway
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on commentary to help even build the
story up even more as him being part
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of the board of director's for Ring
of Honor, which I didn't know that
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was a thing, So it was
nice. But yeah, it was a
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fun match. The only my only
issue, and it's not with the match,
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it's kind of with the Continental Classic
is after the match, Eddie Kingson
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threw his name in a half for
that and now we're talking about the American
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Triple Crown Champion. I'm like,
doesn't that then devalue the Ring of Honor
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title if this guy's willing to risk
it to become the Continental Champion, Like,
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does that put that title even lower
on the mantle. But that's just
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me being nitpicky about the hierarchy of
professional wrestling titles is just ridiculous anyway.
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But the match yourself, it's fine. It was solid. You got to
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see you know, Stanham saying try
to do the strut, which I thought
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was kind of was cute, but
overall solid match which you would expect from
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two guys like Eddie Kingston and Jay
Lethal. Yeah. I mean, there's
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so much to discuss there, the
way that roh has been booked under Tony
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Kahan's ownership, even the Continental Championship, which when they first announced the Continental
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Classic, I was like, oh, this is pretty cool, and I
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thought that somebody was just getting in
a championship like trophy like they do for
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the owen Hart Cup. But then
when I've realized that it was another championship
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being added to aw that could be
a show in itself. But I'm gonna
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digress from that right now and just
get to the next match, which is
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Claudio cast and only defeating Buddy Murphy. We did not predict that one as
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well. My only issue with this
match is that Claudio and Buddy should be
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on the main show, another enjoyable
pre show match on zero hour Doctor try
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Yeah, and then you're watching a
matching man. Why didn't WW do this
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do this match more often for these
two guys, because, I mean,
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we all know Claudio. Claudio is
the modern to me, is the modern
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day Lance Storm, like Lancethorm,
a guy that, if you watch him
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wrestle, should have been a world
champion multiple times, and just because of
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perceived promo skills or whatever, never
got to that level. And then Buddy
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Matthews watching him work a singles match, you forget how good he is and
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how impressed with an athlete he is. So this was a really solid match
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up team two. I don't want
to say young guys, because both these
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guys are ten fifteen, twenty year
vets but maybe underappreciated talents in the world
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of professional wrestling. But like you
said, like this could have been a
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main show card any other time.
And also, you know what a four
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day build up to it? What? You know? It's it was a
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storyline, but it was a short
storyline to get to the match, but
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the little bump at the end of
the match sets it up so that maybe
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we get House of Black versus Blackpoole
Combat Club, which that will be really
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fun. Yeah. Yeah, there's
a lot of good stuff going on there
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that can come from this match.
And again, like it was a zero
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R match, I was happy because
it was free. And then the next
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match here, MJF and samoo Jo
defeated Guns to retain the ROH World Tig
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Team Championship. This was the only
match going into it that we did predict
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on zero hours and we both at
MGF and samo Joe. I thought the
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match was fine and it helped set
up the main show with the Andrey angle
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with MJF postmatch. My problem with
this though, was I thought Samojo was
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going to be a friend to MJF
until his title match and not just the
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tag team match the defendent titles at
full gear. So the explanation of like
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I'm gonna protect you was confusing because
I would have figured that Samojo would have
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come down, out, come out
to make the save. That's being a
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nitpicky to me, and I don't
know if this resonated with you, Doctor
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Trey. I had a lot of
old school late nineties Sunday Night Heat vibes
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where WWE would have Sunday Night Heat
before the pay per view and they would
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run an angle that made sense and
carried itself through the rest of the pay
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per view. And that's what this
did. Being nitpicky on the Samo Joe
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stuff aside, the storyline of mgf's
injury going into the main show was really
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well done and really well executed.
I did have a funny like haha moment
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that I'm sure has been picked up
on Twitter. I really don't go on
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that platform anymore. But at the
end of Zero Hour, where Adam Cole
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is saying to himself, like what
am I going to do? He said
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it twice and they panned back and
you could see the backstage area behind Adam
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Cole and who's walking down the steps, but one of the guns it looked
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like Austin gun. I'm like,
oh shit that if you go back and
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watch Zero Hour unless they've edited out, I thought that was a very funny
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thing. You could see clearly see
the tights of one of the guns,
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and you know, just to spend
my disbelief. Nonetheless, match was fine.
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Samoa Joe angle was confusing. The
injury angle was really well done.
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Doctor Treer thoughts, Yeah, my
only issue with it is, you know,
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you're building up You've been building up
bullet Clip Gold to be like this
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dominant, you know, pretty strong
fashion. I kind of wanted the Guns
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to have I don't want to say
a little bit, and maybe they got
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enough. I just felt like they
didn't look strong enough in the match,
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and then they got their payback on
the post match beating down. I'm with
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you. It confused me because they
kept saying that Joe is helping MJF so
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that he can get a shot at
MJF, you know, and that's how
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much. But that made me think
that if Jay White won, Joe doesn't
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get a shot, and then so
then why wouldn't Joe run into make the
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save when the Guns are beating down
MJF. Because by weakening MJF, Joe
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might be losing his title shots.
So that's why I got confused with it,
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and I was like, well,
that doesn't make a lot of sense.
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And then like I think, like
the injury angle, like you said,
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like that was old school, like
we're going to tie this into the
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pay per view later tonight. Then
you know, just MJF on the stretcher
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begged, don't let them take my
title. Don't let them take my title,
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And I don't know about you.
I was confused when MZF came down
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with only one Ring of Honor Tag
Team title belt, because I was like,
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well, that just gives it away
that the Guns aren't winning, because
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then you got to go track down
the other belt to award it all.
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So that was also like just a
little nitpiggy pin. But overall, like
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the match was good. I just
wish the Guns had a little bit more
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offense. But that's also because right
now, I think you and I can
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both agree that we're both kind of
guns marks right now because they're very very
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entertaining. They have been very very
entertaining. They've really grown on me as
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the time has gone on. Onto
the main show. Here, Sting Darby
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Allen, Adam Copeland defeat Christian Cage, Lucasaurce and Nick Wayne. We had
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Sting's team both predicted to win.
Nice opener to kick off the show.
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The crowd was really excited for this
one and behind the match throughout I'm intrigued
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to see where Christian accidentally hitting Lucasaurs
with the T and T Championship and then
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leaving them behind will play out moving
forward. A Lucasaurus face turn feels like
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it's coming sooner rather than later.
Let me preface again by saying, Doctor
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treynar recording this Tuesday night of Thanksgiving
week. This show will probably be made
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available on Wednesday, So obviously Doctor
Trannon are not watching ton of Mine on
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Wednesday night to see if there is
any follow up from anything in aw Nonetheless,
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Doctor Trey Sting, Darby, Adam
Copland get the victory. You got
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Adam Copeland in face paint as well, Like that was a nice little touch
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that reminded me of the old school
NWAWCW, the dudes with attitudes or you
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know Sting's squadron, you know,
and all the guys that do the face
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paint. That was a little bit
homage to the throwback. The match himself
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was fine, nothing shocking or surprising
other than you know, the Lucasaurus bump
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and then Christian walking out, by
the way, what a great name for
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a stable the patriarchy. That was
great, and that was like a little
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throwaway line that I think Nigel said
towards the end of the match, like
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you know, what's Christia's cage would
do with him walking out of the patriarchy.
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I was like, Oh, if
that's a stable name, that's great.
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I love that it was on the
Titan tron. See I'm watching it
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from my phone, so I couldn't
see some of the finer like the smaller
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print stuff. So that was my
That was my issue because I had to
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watch it that such a small screen. So but I love that it's great
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name. So and then why nobody
canna be that name in all these years
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of professional wrestling baffles me. So
I don't know if it's I don't know
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if we've got enough lucassaurus abuse to
really dive into a full flinched face turn,
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because maybe his face turn is still
a little too early considering his heel
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turn wasn't that long ago, so
I still think people picture him as a
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baby face at time. So I
think we need a little bit more of
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you. You have to, you
have to really really abuse the monster before
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the monster turns to go off on
his own, so that it's can vibes
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right, Yeah, yeah, it
really is but it's like you got to
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beat on the monster more and more
and make it more sympathetic. And I
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don't think we've got to the point
where we feel bad for Lucasaurus yet.
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I think it's getting there. I
think it's getting there, though, Doctor
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Try I do. I mean that
choke slam onto the apron of Darby Allen,
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I'm like, I don't know.
I think it feels bad for that
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guy that just literally tossed Darby like
he was like a second potatoes. All
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it takes is like a really shitty
heel, which Christian is though, or
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just like light them on fire.
Sure gues you could do that too,
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and it always gets people sympathetic.
Next match is Orange Casside defeating John Moxley
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to retain the aw International Championship.
John Moxley, I had doctor trade Orange
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Cassidy. Fantastic match. I really
enjoy seeing that. The dynamic that Moxley
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brings out a whole new side of
Orange Cassady we typically never see. Cassidy
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going over clean on mox is a
huge deal and well deserved for one of
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the best wrestlers this year in Orange
Cassidy, Big Winford. Orange Cassidy Doctor
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Tracy defeats John Moxley. Yeah,
and I love the way they booked it
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because you know Orange starting off strong
and Moxley no selling it and then Moxley
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basically beating his ass for most of
the match until you got the comeback.
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But then you thought you thought Ornge
got the desperation in Cassidy get to win,
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like busting out red Rum, you
know, throwing what like's like five
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or six Orange punches in a row
and try and put Moxley down. Like
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it was a really compelling match.
But also it just shows that Max is
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one of those guys that goes,
hey, we need to elevate this guy,
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and the only way we can do
it is make him give him depth
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to the character. We have to
make him look that he can pull out
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the more physical side of his character. I also love Moxton Hawking is the
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Orch Cakes as well, Like that
was kind of funny too. So overall,
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like really really good match, really
strong match, and it sets up
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Orch Cassidy for another strong run and
the now can move mox Claudio and Wheeler
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over to the Black cool comback,
I mean over the House of Black if
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you want to go that round One
of my favorite things about professional wrestling is
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when you see an established star and
there's no title that there is a title,
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whatever the case may be, is
in the background, but you see
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an established star helping elevate a star
that you feel like, as a wrestling
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fan, could use some elevation.
You saw that with the Moxley Orange Cassidy
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feud. You see it later on
with Hangman at a Page getting more out
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of Swerve Strickland. You're seeing it
in WWE right now, like very subtly.
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One of my favorite things in wrestling
right now is these random Becky Lynch
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feuds where she's feuding with Tiagan Knox, she's feuding with Lyra Valkyrie, she's
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feuding with Zaia Lee and elevating their
games. And that's what Moxley did.
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I really enjoy that aspect of professional
wrestling when these established stars helped put over
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new talent to create new stars,
and that's like the circle of life per
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se in professional wrestling. That's what
we saw this past Saturday night with John
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Moxley taking the l against Orange Cassidy. Next match here is timeless Tony Storm
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defeating Karloshita to win the aw Women's
World Championship. We both had time with
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Tony Storm. I feel bad for
Shida because her last two title reigns have
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been met, but the decision to
put the title on Tony makes sense,
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as she has so much momento and
popularity lately. The finish was clunky and
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the match was fine, but they
had a tough act following Cassidy. You
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know, she tried to put that
pan down her I can't believe I'm saying
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this down her pants to do the
hip attack, and even the announcers were
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laughing because she was having like wardrobe
malfunctions. And then she'd went in the
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corner. Tony went halfway, then
went back and then did the hip attack.
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It was very clunky but timeless.
Tony Storms our new aw Women's World
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Champion. Doctor Trey. Yeah,
not to mention when when Aubrey's counting the
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pinfall, her head is literally eight
inches from the plate coming out of Tony
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Storm's bridges, as a Tas alluded
to on the call. Yeah, the
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match yourself was The match yourself was
decent. It's just the finish got really
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clucking. Cat took it away,
and you know, this is this is
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match and the response to Timeless Tony
Storm is one of those things I point
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out to young wrestlers who don't like
gimmicks Like Tony Storm. You and I
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loved her in the May Young Classic
through entire run, and it's this gimmick
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that has get Hurt to another level. And then you look at some of
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the like the you know, some
of the people, we're like, you
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know, we miss bray White.
It was the bray White gimmick. They
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gotta bo I'm gonna take this gimmick. Gotamo with these these crazy gimmicks that
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can establish another depth of the character, helps elevate the game, and it
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stands out because it's so different from
what everybody else is doing. So in
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a world like AW or in the
Superindependence where everybody's five ten, one hundred
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and ninety five pounds, sometimes you
got to think outside of the box to
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really get a good crowd response.
So I applaud Tony Storm for taking a
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risk because it's such a divergent character
for what she's done for pretty much her
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entire career. But she's making it
work and it's being very very successful.
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So outside of the Klucky Fish,
I'm just happy for Tony Storm. And
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getting this character over. Next match
here was Ricky Starks and Big Bill defeating
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LFI FTR and The King of the
Black Throne and a four way tag team
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match, retaining aw World Tag Team
Championship. I'm Ricky Starks, a Big
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Bill dot Trade FDR great. My
only negative feedback is I think rustling fans
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are spoiled with the amount of tag
team ladder matches we have seen the last
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twenty to twenty five years, which
makes it harder to do anything we haven't
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seen before. Nonetheless, all eight
men brought it and put on a great,
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heart hitting show for the fans on
Saturday night. Ricky Stark's a Big
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Bell retaining made sense to me because
then they needed a win like this for
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their title rate to continue growing.
Doctor Trey, your thoughts on the fatal
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four way ladder match, Yeah,
it's it's you're getting into the spots and
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wrestling where you're like, is anything
or like to me, the most original
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spot in the entire match was just
Malachi Black flipping the ladder back in the
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in the cash wheeler, like I'm
like, oh crap, I've never seen
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somebody use the rope kind of like
in that manner to the springboard the ladder
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back into somebody you know, but
like you know, you see Brody Kane
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do that big godz obamb of Dealstico
on the ladder and you're just like,
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eh, that look gruff. It's
like we are kind of spoiled as to
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what we've seen over the last you
know, twenty years when it comes the
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ladder matches. I mean the ladder
match was it was good, it was
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solid, it was fun, it
was entertaining. It works for Ricky Starks
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in Big Bill, so, like
you said, establish their tag team run.
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But as much as I like Ricky
Starks in Big Bill, I mean,
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given what happens later in the show, is is a Golden Jet Ricky
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Stark Big Bill match like a money
drawing match? Yet I don't know.
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So that's that was kind of why
I was leaning towards FDR, just because
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I thought that would be a bigger
draw for the tag team division, but
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because I don't I don't really know
if you need to keep building up new
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tag teams when you have so much
depth in your tag team division. I
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guess it's kind of my thought process. I think at times the tag team
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division doesn't actually get executed correctly in
my mind, Yeah, I mean,
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I mean when you look at you
look at the card. I mean you
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like, in the last couple of
shows, I mean you've had MTF beat
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an established tag team. You dow
had MTF and Samoa Joe beat an established
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tag team, Omega and Jericho being
established tag team, Ricky Stars and Big
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Bill beat three established tag teams.
So these are a lot of these single
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stars being meshed together, and you're
kind of diluting your tag team talent by
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doing so. So as much talent
as they have, it's these single stars
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thrown together that are kind of dominating
the division right now. Next match here
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is Julia Hart defeating Chris Statlander and
sky Blue in a triple threat match to
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win the AWTBS Championship. Dot Trannon
both had Julie Hard getting the victory.
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Solid triple threat match. Julia Hart
and sky Blue have really raised their games
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and characters throughout the year, and
Statlander, who is an established starr,
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helped get them over as equals.
Again going back to what I said earlier
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in the show with Moxley and Lawrence
Cassie. Another example this year with Chris
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Statlander working with sky Blue and Julia
Hart. Julia Hart deserves the title as
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she has been very much improved in
the ring, but I hate to see
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it come at the hands of Chris
Statlander. Maybe this means stat Lander shifts
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are focused on the aw Women's World
Championship coming out of this, as she
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didn't take the pin and a Julia
Hart sky Blue feud continues forward, Doctor
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Trey, we have a new AWTBS
champion and it's Julia Hart. Yeah,
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really happy for I thought the triple
threat match was solid. I just I
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don't know. There are points this
match where I thought it was like three
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versions of Rhea Ripley fighting each other. I guess, like everybody wants to
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be Gothic or just a badass right
now. So like and I was trying
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to figure out the whole You're still
trying to figure out the story between sky
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Blue and Julia Hart as well.
So I'm with you. I think they
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should move stat Lander up into the
main women's picture. Let Julia Hart,
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sky Blue, Willow Nightingale, Red, Velvet Green, Jello, anybody else
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in the vision that they want to
throw in there that has a color food
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theme as well. Let them battle
it out, let them kind of sort
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their characters out, because to me, the TBS title is your Women's Proving
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Ground Championship and then to move them
up into the main picture. So but
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yeah, I'm really happy for Julia
Hart because she may have progressed farther in
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a year than I have ever seen
any other female wrestler do. Like she
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was god awful with Brian Pillman and
Griff Garrison and now I actually enjoy watching
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her work a match. So that's
just tremendous progress in twelve to eighteen months
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I've seen somebody do. Oh,
she's been fantastic, one of the best
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Moon salts. I like the submission
finisher they have there. What is that?
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Is it? Heartless? Heartless?
Yes? Yeah, I mean that's
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a great like it's a almost looks
like a Rings of Saturn type submission.
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Yeah, she's been really well improved. I'm very happy for Julia Hart winning
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the AWTVS Championship because she deserves it. She's been really really good the last
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couple of months. Newly married also
yeah, Lee Johnson, right, yeah,
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yeah, somebody that I've worked a
show with got to marry Julia Hart.
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So LEO. Part of me is
a little sad. Hey you never
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know does try next match? Here
is Swerve Strickland defeat and Hangman Adam Page
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in a Texas death match. We
both had Hagman Adam paid to get the
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victory. Doctor Trey, what do
you say about this one? It's a
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brutal, violent, legendary masterpiece,
A top match in twenty twenty three,
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one of the most memorable AW matches
since its inception. This feud has been
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short but extremely good. I didn't
think Swerve Strickland could elevate his game,
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but then he does it again and
again and again, and then does it
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again. Amazing performance by both men. Have put themselves through that type of
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human mutilation and punishment all for wrestling
fans entertainment. There are several spots we
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could sit here and go I can't
believe they did this. I can't believe
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they did that. Hangman Page drinking
the blood, the barricade, pile driver
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Spot, pouring water over each of
their heads so that the blood just like
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dripped like crazy off of their heads. What a match, Doctor Trey.
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Swerve Strickland, Hangman had a Page. If they don't get a standing ovation
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on Dynamite on Wednesday night. Then
I don't know what's wrong with this wrestling
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fan them? Can this be Few
to the year already? I mean,
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it's like jumped up so much.
I mean in a short amount of time.
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I mean, I don't know if
we've ever seen a few go from
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like zero to a thousand this quickly. I mean, and even even the
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even the Wrestle Dream match what maybe
what didn't have the blood but was so
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hard hitting and so just action packed
like these guys. The chemistry these two
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have pull off in such a short
amount of time is incredible. I was
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waiting to hear your evaluation of the
match because I've seen people knock this match
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because of the one spot, and
I'm like, you take out the blood
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drinking spot, which I mean for
all for health reasons, maybe isn't the
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best thing in the world, but
you know this match is not good for
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health reasons, doctor try yeah,
But you know, like everything else in
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this match was like incredible and hard
hitting and you could feel the intensity.
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And you know, my only knock
on this match wasn't even the bloodering spot.
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By the my knockings match is if
either of these guys ever lose a
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match, cleanly in under twelve minutes. I'm gonna be like, what the
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hell, Like you've got staple barbed
wired like you know, pile driven on
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a guard rail, took three buckshot
lariats in a top rope detta Like you
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took all these things, they still
kept fitting up and you know you're gonna
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get schoolboy Robot can't kick out,
Like but you haven't. These guys better
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lose when he makes like four or
five months Like It's just it was that
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level of almost insanity. It's like
I I it's redefined the genre of what
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death I don't say death match wrestling
because I don't put it in the same
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grouping as like some of those GCW
guys do, like the God Bless Him.
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I love the death He's a good
friend of mine, John White,
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Burdock's in the world and Nick gage
Is. I don't classify this match in
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that light. To me, this
is the old school versions of like the
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Dusty Rose totally blanded, I quit
matches and just with a modern twist on
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it. Like it was brutal,
it was physical, You felt the intensity.
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It suspended your disbelief because you wanted
to see Hangman beat the hell at
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a swerve for the home invasion Agle, Like all the stuff came together and
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like this little perfect storm for this
match, and I the part of me
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worries that it may be remembered for
the blood drinking spot and not the intensity
397
00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:41.519
and the violence of the tortality that
the other you know, twenty seven minutes
398
00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:48.759
of smash brought. Yeah, this
is it's a memorable match. Yeah,
399
00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:52.839
does it get It gets brutal,
right, it gets violent, and sometimes
400
00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:56.759
AW pushes the envelope a little bit
too much, but I think you just
401
00:27:56.880 --> 00:28:00.839
kind of come used to it,
right. I'm It's not my type of
402
00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:04.319
wrestling, but I respect it a
lot ultimately, and I respect this match
403
00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:10.119
and I do think it's a top
match in twenty twenty three. See what's
404
00:28:10.119 --> 00:28:14.079
weird as you go back to was
it mox Ley Omega when they had the
405
00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:18.440
uh the Pepaisan chair of barb Wire, you know, remether one to talk
406
00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:23.440
about like that spiral. Yeah,
it's like those matches felt like they did
407
00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:29.920
shit for the sake of doing stuff, where this match, with the way
408
00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:33.319
they presented it with the homeanvaate.
Look if some guy walked into my house
409
00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:37.200
while I was at work, and
was standing over little Samy Franklin and talking
410
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:41.240
shit like, yeah, I'm gonna
try to kill the guy, and that
411
00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:44.480
match. Because of that angle,
it led to this match, and it
412
00:28:44.599 --> 00:28:48.799
made sense. So the brutality was
not for the sake of brutality, but
413
00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:53.200
it was brutality for the stake of
the storyline. And it reminded me of
414
00:28:53.240 --> 00:28:57.599
those action movies where the bad guy
kills you know, John Wick's dog and
415
00:28:57.680 --> 00:29:02.319
John Wick goes on a rampage or
spoiler alert, we're supposed to do that.
416
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:03.799
You know that, I know,
but I think we're on John Wick
417
00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:07.440
six now, so I think it's
okay to spoil one. Oh fair.
418
00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:11.119
But it's like it's those old school
action movies where something the villain does something
419
00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:15.240
to the guy's family and that guy
goes on a rampage that gives revenge.
420
00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:21.160
So it was it's violence and brutality
for the sake of the story, which
421
00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:25.519
in this light makes sense, where
some of these other death matches we've seen
422
00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:29.920
it's been brutality for the sake of
brutality or violence for the sake of violence,
423
00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:33.720
which to me, it diminishes this
genre. No, it's it's a
424
00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:37.039
fair, it's it's fair. I
get what you're saying. It's fair.
425
00:29:38.359 --> 00:29:42.839
Still very memorable, memorable match.
It reminds me of those old I Quip
426
00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:47.599
matches, the old bull Rump matches
when there was a long, lengthy feud
427
00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:51.119
and this was the way to blow
it off. And those guys made you
428
00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:52.960
feel like they were literally trying to
kill each other because of all the crap
429
00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:56.880
they've done to each other building up
to it. It's just this, they
430
00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:02.839
condensed it down to like a two
month period instead of six months or nine
431
00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:04.680
months like we used to do back
in the old AWA W c W.
432
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:11.759
I'm the match was surprising. I
thought the result was more surprising. I
433
00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:15.440
did not foresee Swerve Strickland going to
Zo on Hangman page in this feud.
434
00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:18.880
No, I really didn't either,
especially when it's a Texas death match.
435
00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:23.079
But then, you know, getting
Brian Cage involved, getting No involved kind
436
00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:30.079
of helped sell the finish because Nagas
say they like Swerve one because of the
437
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:37.240
help of Nana in Cage and it
doesn't diminish Hangman too much. And then
438
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:42.079
Hangman getting hung to finish the match
was kind of cool as well. Mm
439
00:30:42.119 --> 00:30:47.440
hmm. Yeah, really well,
really well done match for Strickland defeating Hangman
440
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:51.359
Adam Page. Next match, year's
the Golden Jets of feeding the Young Bucks
441
00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:53.640
as they get the Young Bucks aw
tag team title shot. We both have
442
00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:56.839
thek Golden Jets getting the victory.
Good storytelling throughout this match. They had
443
00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:00.279
a tough act to follow with Swerve
and Hangman and did a good job.
444
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:03.319
Still, I'm interest to see where
things go with the Young Bucks after their
445
00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:07.440
post match meltdown. As reporters are
staying there do for a heel turn along
446
00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:11.440
with Brandon Cutler, who has been
their mouthpiece online since the match took place,
447
00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:15.839
and one on other one other unnamed
personality, uh doctor, try the
448
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:19.759
gold and Jets get the victory.
Yeah, not to me, This was
449
00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:26.640
not a surprising finish, although I
do like my storyline idea that the Kenny
450
00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:30.039
and Chris would just tag up at
random Canadian shows and then the Bucks were
451
00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:32.920
like searching the Internet to try to
find videos so they can take him to
452
00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:36.799
Quarter or something for it. But
yeah, like, I don't know,
453
00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:41.759
the match was good, but maybe
as expecting a little bit more because it
454
00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:47.799
is four of the best wrestlers in
the world. I thought it was I
455
00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:49.079
thought it was good, but maybe
I was just thing a little bit more.
456
00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:55.680
But having Dog calls on commentary also
helped because he's like, You're like,
457
00:31:55.880 --> 00:31:56.720
just say to the guy, You're
like, yeah, I really just
458
00:31:56.920 --> 00:32:00.400
want anybody to win other than Doug
Kallaus. So I thought it was good
459
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:06.519
and it'll be interesting for progressing because
there's you know, when when does Kenny
460
00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:09.440
and Chris cash in, it does
callous cost of the tag bells or is
461
00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:14.440
callous at starts at Big Bill into
the Doug Kallas family because he does like
462
00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:19.480
he taking on uh people, parked
Tide in that family role as well.
463
00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:23.279
And then finally here the main event, MJF defeats Jay White to win the
464
00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:28.440
AW World Championship. MGF was our
pick for both from both of us in
465
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:31.480
this match. I really enjoyed how
the storyline played out from the zero hour
466
00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:35.640
pre show throughout the show up until
the main event, with the MGF injury
467
00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:37.759
angle and Adam Cole filling in.
At one point it was changed to Adam
468
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:43.160
Cole versus Jay White, which was
a nice little touch. The match itself
469
00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:45.319
was slow building, but the final
ten minutes were really good. It's funny
470
00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:49.680
to see MGF acting like an eighties
baby face at times, but he overcomes
471
00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:53.079
adversity by going back to his scumbag
ways by cheating with the dynamite diamond ring
472
00:32:53.200 --> 00:33:00.480
to get the pin on Jay White. MGF reportedly hurt his shoulder and also
473
00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:05.400
dislocated his hip that needed to be
popped back in after the failed announce your
474
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:09.240
table spot elbow dropped from the top
rope. Do't try your thoughts here.
475
00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:15.880
MJF defeats Jay White to retain the
aw World Championship. So the matches up.
476
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:19.599
When you said disokay, I thought
you were saying he dislocated the pre
477
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:22.920
show out when he did hit the
recruit hip gride, like that would be
478
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:24.599
a great way. Like it's like
it the way an old lady pops a
479
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:28.079
hip, you know she us emulated
recruited. The hip just goes out.
480
00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:30.839
But like the matches up. I
thought it was great old school storytelling,
481
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:35.640
like you have an injury, you're
selling the injury. I do like this
482
00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:40.359
weird, Like half the match,
MJF is whole Cogan and then the second
483
00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:44.759
half of the match he turns into
Rick Clair, Like yeah, the eighties
484
00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:49.319
baby face and then the eighties scumbag
heel. By the end, it's like
485
00:33:49.559 --> 00:33:53.640
it's almost like he's having this like
devil in Angel battle on his shoulders,
486
00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:58.680
deciding how he wins the match.
The only thing I didn't like was the
487
00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:01.599
Adam Cole like, oh, we're
gonna have an Adam Cole j White match,
488
00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:06.319
Like I didn't think you needed to
do that, Like you could have.
489
00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:09.880
You could have done it mister Miyagi
Daniel LaRusso style, where like you
490
00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:14.880
know they're about to award the belt
to Jay White and you know, Adam
491
00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:16.880
Cole comes rushing out and like,
no, m JFF wants to fight.
492
00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:21.320
M JFF wants to fight, and
JAFF wants to fight, and you could
493
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:22.840
have done that whole thing. It
would tied into the eighties thingue. But
494
00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:28.639
like the illusion that you were to
have Adam Cole actually get into a match
495
00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:32.400
I thought was kind of just dumb. And why the heck if he's getting
496
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:36.920
into the ring, is britt Baker
not running out to protect her husband from
497
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:42.920
doing something so stupid us well,
fiance, no, not even doctor Tree.
498
00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:45.280
We've been down this road. We've
tried talking to Adam about this.
499
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:50.760
Oh I missed it, My bad. Now this is awkward. I hope
500
00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:54.760
she's not listening. No, no, Nonetheless, M Jeff retains and it's
501
00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:59.719
still the EWE World Champion. I
went seven and two, Doctor treit went
502
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:02.360
seven two. In our predictions,
I'm at one fifteen and forty one Doctor
503
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:07.960
Trey, one O eight and forty
eight. Event rating match the night I
504
00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:09.480
gave full gear of four point three. I thought it was a very very
505
00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:14.639
solid and fun and entertaining show.
And my match the night Doctor Tray Swart
506
00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:17.440
Strickling hanging out a page I was
at. I was at a four to
507
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:21.400
four, so I was a little
bit ahead of you. And the only
508
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:23.920
reason I didn't go higher was because
after four and a half almost five hours,
509
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:28.840
I was kind of burning out.
Yeah no, rightfully, So I
510
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:32.440
mean, how is it zero hour? If it last ninety minutes, it's
511
00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:37.960
not an hour, then it's zero
ninety or whatever. But yeah, my
512
00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:40.239
imagine that I was also Swerve in
the Hangman page. That's that's gonna be
513
00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:44.440
like when we have great pay per
views, there's always that one match that's
514
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:46.239
going to stand out and will remember
this match at five or ten years,
515
00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:50.960
which makes it stand out even more. Yeah, No, it was.
516
00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:54.400
It was amazing to both of us
giving the show very high hopes. You
517
00:35:54.440 --> 00:35:58.840
know what's funny about everything, Doctor
Trey collectively. I want to go back
518
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:00.280
to what I said in the beginning
of the show, where I want to
519
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:04.719
give AW their flowers that I thought
this was one of the best creatively built
520
00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:07.199
shows that they've done in a while, and it showed, and then it
521
00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:13.760
was executed very well on Saturday Night, which obviously gets you excited with AW
522
00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:16.440
because it's had its peaks and valleys
throughout all of twenty twenty three, and
523
00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:21.280
hopefully they continue to ride this wave
because last couple of shows that they've done
524
00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:24.079
for paper views have been very good
from all out, all in Wrestle Dream,
525
00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:29.840
Full Gear. I think Full Gear
to me is probably their best show
526
00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:32.960
that I've seen in twenty twenty three. Actually, I'm gonna check real quick
527
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:39.679
if that actually is. I know
it's my highest rated one Revolution was four
528
00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:43.679
point two three point nine from You
and I, three point six to three
529
00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:46.719
point seven for Ben Door, four
point zero three point eight all In,
530
00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:51.400
four point four from me, four
point one from you All Out, three
531
00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:53.440
point nine from me, four point
one from you, four point one,
532
00:36:53.559 --> 00:37:00.400
four point two from Wressel Dream and
so Full Gear is your highest rate show
533
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:05.960
and mine is still aw all in
which which doesn't make sense. I did
534
00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:08.800
love that show, but Full Gear
to me is like neck and neck with
535
00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:15.719
that show. Yeah, it just
I just feel like they had a really
536
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:21.480
good creative build towards it. But
here's the conundrum I have to wrap this
537
00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:27.159
all up with Full Gear is I
thought Dynamite and Collision and Rampage shows like
538
00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:36.039
individually or whatever, like they lack
the enthusiasm and the excitement that they used
539
00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:39.039
to have, which makes those shows
like at times hard to go through.
540
00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:43.519
But then there's like these little subtleties
and it builds to a bigger story which
541
00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:45.360
then leads to the pay per view
very well. But I just feel like
542
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:51.400
Dynamite, Rampage Collision have not been
that great lately, which is kind of
543
00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:54.199
strange because the creative going to the
show made sense. The show is well
544
00:37:54.239 --> 00:37:58.559
executed, the pay per views have
been very well executed, but the weekly
545
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:01.280
programming to me kind kind of isn't
where I'd like it to be as an
546
00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:05.920
AW fan. Does that make sense? Yeah, because I think one of
547
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:10.880
my issues with the TV shows is
they're not built like TV shows like there's
548
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:16.239
not the cliffhanger, there's not the
the reason to tune in, Like where
549
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:22.360
they place the matches on the TV
shows doesn't really match where they're going to
550
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:25.960
place it on the pay per view
card, and they don't put the same
551
00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:32.159
behind like ww's first match of the
night or their main event or use their
552
00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:36.159
two biggest matches. It's usually one
of the world title matches kicking off the
553
00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:38.400
show and then the other one's closing
the show. So when they build those
554
00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:44.079
shows those shows, those matches are
still featured in the main event of their
555
00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:49.400
respective shows, and so you understand
the importance behind it, where you know,
556
00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:53.280
you may have the MJF segment you
know early in the show, and
557
00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:57.000
then when you get to the you
know therese like, well it is the
558
00:38:57.079 --> 00:39:01.519
MJF stuff with Roderick and Adam,
and they white more important or less important.
559
00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:07.920
If you have Tony Storm and Hikishida
closing out of store, like their
560
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:12.400
structure is still in flux with their
television shows, and then it kind of
561
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:16.679
lessens the importance because with RAW or
Smacked Down or NXT, there's like a
562
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:21.880
build up to get to the close
of the show, whereas think sometimes ADEW
563
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:25.840
almost books it backwards, where they're
starting high and then finishing low, if
564
00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:29.960
that makes sense. No, I
hear what you're saying. Yeah, I
565
00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:34.400
think if they got the weekly programming
a little bit more fine tuned, I
566
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:38.199
think AW would be rolling again.
But I will say late twenty twenty three,
567
00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:43.320
there should be a huge optimism right
now that twenty twenty four will be
568
00:39:43.360 --> 00:39:46.960
a banner year for AW in my
opinion, and more importantly so, one
569
00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:53.519
maybe two names are off that free
agent wire now and signed to All Elite,
570
00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:57.840
which twenty twenty four is supposed to
be a big year for professional wrestling
571
00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:01.119
signings, and AW has already gotten
a jump. As we talked about in
572
00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:05.960
last weeks show, who will be
that blockbuster signing? We felt that it
573
00:40:06.039 --> 00:40:08.840
was going, you know, will
Ospray would be the signing that we would
574
00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:13.119
want to see. We felt like
it would ultimately not be Will Ospray because
575
00:40:13.159 --> 00:40:16.119
he was due to be a free
agent in February twenty twenty four. We
576
00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:22.280
felt like it would be Sammy Callahan. Instead. We got the twenty twenty
577
00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:25.480
four free agency wire and professional wrestling
going a bit early, as Will Ospray
578
00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:30.719
is in fact All Elite Doctor Trey. He has signed a three year deal
579
00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:34.360
with the company. He will wrap
up in New Japan in February twenty twenty
580
00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:37.599
four and then be All Elite.
Will be based out of the UK during
581
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:42.360
this time, which Pac also does, and he will be a weekly contributor
582
00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:44.679
to All Elite Wrestling for the next
three years. To me, he is
583
00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:46.920
one of the best professional wrestlers on
the planet right now. This is a
584
00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:52.199
huge get and a huge signing for
All Elite Wrestling Doctor Trey. So I
585
00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:55.840
simply ask you in regard to the
signing, did AW have an edge or
586
00:40:55.920 --> 00:41:00.960
is the WWE business model flawed for
these big signings. AW they have the
587
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:05.679
forbidden door. It gives wrestlers an
opportunity to form a relationship with AW.
588
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:10.599
The schedule in AW is more wrestler
friendly than WWE. They have signed some
589
00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:15.440
big names over the years here,
Jay White earlier this year. Now will
590
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:22.360
Ospray is the AW business model when
it comes to these big signings better and
591
00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:28.960
making the WA business model flawed for
the big signings. If you're going off
592
00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:32.559
of do I want to sign with
AW based on just what they do?
593
00:41:32.679 --> 00:41:39.639
Yeah? Probably because the schedules a
lot lighter the pay is comparable, that's
594
00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:45.079
more guaranteed, and not hey at
your merchandise sales factor into it. Things
595
00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:51.199
like that like w does like a
lot of their guys. If I was
596
00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:54.119
going off like structuring my career,
I'd still probably lean WE BUD if I.
597
00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:59.039
If I'm a guy that's in my
mid you know, mid thirties looking
598
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to really establish myself and make a
home. AWS a great place to start
599
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because I don't have to bump as
much, I don't have to work as
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much, and I can still make
really really good money and still be featured
601
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on multiple shows. So and when
it comes to signing guys, they do
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have an edge because I'm pretty sure
if a if WB went to will Ospray
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to offer a contract knowing that he
was still under contract New Japana falla lawsuits
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with having that working relationship with AW
I think aw can ask permission and they
605
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can negotiate in good faith. So
aw Wood comes with things like that is
606
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going to have an edge on WWE
when it comes to signing those international talents
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that filter through New Japan. Yeah, it seems like they had a very
608
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big edge for will Ospray. The
rumors of will Ospray potentially going to WWE
609
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had picked up in the last month. We had me very intrigued. Heading
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in twenty twenty four. I felt
like he made the right decision, Will
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Ospray to go all elite wrestling.
He knows what it's like there. He
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has perform there plenty of times now, and I think he'll be a great
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addition to their roster. And actually
I thought Dave Meltzer made a really good
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point in one of his reports that
AW can offer Will Ospray an opportunity to
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be a world champion in twenty twenty
four, something WWE cannot do. Probably
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in twenty twenty four, also all
lead Wrestling heading into Wembley Stadium in the
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home backyard of Will lost Bray.
I mean, let's put it down now.
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If you don't think Will Osprey is
in some sort of world title match
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it all in in August twenty twenty
four, I think you're out of your
620
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mind. And the only way that
doesn't happen is if God forbid he gets
621
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hurt and is unavailable to perform that
night. I would fully expect that Will
622
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Ospray is an AW world champion in
twenty twenty four. This is a huge
623
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signing, huge get for them,
great move for him to be performing in
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the United States promotions, and he
still gets to have a relationship with the
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New Japan a little bit as well. So one big name down for twenty
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twenty four and another may be down
for twenty twenty four as well as According
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to reports from Wrestling Hass, several
w RE sources, have you never heard
628
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of that? No, I've never
heard of wrestling Haws, But now it's
629
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going on my list of people check
on. Yeah. No, no,
630
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they they do a really good The
name is escaping me right now. Nick
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Cosman, he used to be a
wrestling ink. Now he's opened up his
632
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own website, a Hoss of Wrestling. Okay, I just see. I
633
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was just picturing some big fat country
red bag wrestlin Hoss Wrestling Hass. Okay,
634
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yeah, So House of Wrestling has
said that several w RE sources believe
635
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MJF has quietly re signed with AW
one higher up w source data that have
636
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been quote zero talks between the two
sides. They further noted that the idea
637
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:53.039
MGF is said to enter free agency
imminently is a quote false narrative, and
638
00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:59.760
that they believe he has resigned into
twenty twenty seven. I'm not surprised by
639
00:44:59.800 --> 00:45:02.159
this doctor Trey based on the way
that he has been booked. I did
640
00:45:02.280 --> 00:45:07.920
feel like that everybody gunning for him
could be leading towards maybe an exit from
641
00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:14.199
the company. He wasn't involved in
any of the all in promotion promotional material
642
00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:16.519
for twenty twenty four where hes got
people's spider sense is tingling a little bit.
643
00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:21.880
But I think you hear him in
interviews and he's, you know,
644
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breaking a lot of kfabe and talking
about how much he loves and appreciates all
645
00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:29.280
elite wrestling and how he wants to
be the guy for the company, and
646
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:36.199
it appears he is staying there,
and this move surprises me. I think
647
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MJF is a WWE talent in an
aw ring. He fits that Cody Rhodes,
648
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Jade Cargill, mold and mentality.
I figured a guy like him,
649
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:52.039
a guy like Ricky Starks, would
also thrive in w WI and kind of
650
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would like the environment more. So
this move is surprising, and that's of
651
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and it's also unfortunate because I thought
the bidding war of twenty twenty four is
652
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gonna be a lot of fun.
Yeah, they're like, on one hand,
653
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I am surprised because you know,
why would I. It's like you
654
00:46:15.079 --> 00:46:17.480
and I are big baseball fans and
you get that hot prospect who finally makes
655
00:46:17.559 --> 00:46:22.719
his debut with you know, the
major league club, and then you find
656
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:25.880
out he signed a you know,
eight year contract that's gonna be wave alow
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00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:29.519
market value, and you're like,
dude, why didn't you just stick to
658
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you know, stick it out to
the end of your contract. You can
659
00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:36.480
have maximized it. But then the
flip side's true as well, where you
660
00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:39.239
get that guy who comes up to
your system, you love him, you've
661
00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:43.880
bonded with him, and then all
of a sudden he jumps to the Red
662
00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:46.280
Sox because they're gonna offer him two
million more a year, and then you're
663
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like, what happened to loyalty?
It's one of those weird things, like
664
00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:52.559
you look at a guy like m
dam who kind of came not really out
665
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of nowhere on the independence, like
he had a day, but he's grown
666
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in aw and he's sentence at the
top of the ladder. So on the
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00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:05.400
one hand, a guy like me
would go, hey, stick it out
668
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:08.400
for a few more months. Maximize
your leverage, you get the best deal
669
00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:12.559
possible for you. But you know
the other side is, look, this
670
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:19.199
company invested in you and showing loyalty
to you and let you be as creative
671
00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:24.199
as you've wanted to be, and
you know you taking the deal shows your
672
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:29.199
loyalty back to them. So it's
almost like a damn if you do,
673
00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:31.800
damned if you don't. Because either
way, if he had jumped at WV,
674
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people would be like, oh,
how dare he leave AW for all
675
00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:38.039
the stuff they did for him?
And then he says, you guys like
676
00:47:38.119 --> 00:47:44.360
you and me are like, he's
probably a better fit in the WWE universe
677
00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:47.800
because MJF is a sports entertainer more
than anything else, and he would be
678
00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:52.840
maximized to his best abilities. But
you've got to give the kid credit for
679
00:47:53.000 --> 00:47:57.599
loyalty. And I mean is one
of his best friends is Cody Rohase.
680
00:47:57.639 --> 00:48:00.960
He could have gone there and had
a G eight spots, but he stayed
681
00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:05.960
loyal to Tony Kahan and showed you
got faith in me, I got faith
682
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:08.719
in you. So you have to
give the kid credit for loyalty at least.
683
00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:12.679
No, I absolutely do. I
do appreciate the loyalty there, and
684
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yeah, I mean I think this
move works out very well for him obviously.
685
00:48:16.480 --> 00:48:20.079
It's just it's just a little bit
surprising. And by the way,
686
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not to mention if it's only a
three year deal. No, no,
687
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it's it's a four Well you're right, yeah, because I'm thinking twenty twenty
688
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three still, but yeah, it's
a three year deal. It was a
689
00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:32.800
three year deal. Guess what,
mjf's only twenty eight or twenty nine.
690
00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:39.280
When that contract's up, he could
hit free agency again and then me hitting
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00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:45.159
his prime. I mean when w
BE comes a colleague. So it's not
692
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like this is his last contract.
This is a chance for him to kind
693
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of No, I agree with you. But he's also said in interviews,
694
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:55.440
which I do believe was not in
character, that he is not looking to
695
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be in professional wrestling rather long either. I think he is looking at Holly
696
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:02.920
Wood. Yeah, but then you
look at you look at the Cody rosipproach
697
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where it's like, hey, let
me take one shot at w B and
698
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see how it goes. Because if
you want to go to Hollywood, WW
699
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is probably a better vehicle than AEW. So, I mean, like I
700
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:19.519
said, he is twenty nine years
old, he can sign a three year
701
00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:22.719
deal with WWEB thirty two if the
end of that deal, and then decide
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00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:25.000
if he wants to stay in wrestling, go back to AW or go into
703
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Hollywood. So he'd be he's in
a great position no matter what because he's
704
00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:36.679
gonna have money, he's gonna have
leverage and everything else. Like this kid's
705
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:40.440
basically got He's basically like right now
the Golden Goosa Professional Wrestling. I think
706
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for me as a baseball fan,
here we are mid November baseball fans.
707
00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:50.320
We love the hot stove, love
seeing where free agent science are going to
708
00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:52.320
go. And for the first time
that I could ever remember professional wrestling history,
709
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it was looking like twenty twenty four
was going to be a huge hot
710
00:49:55.679 --> 00:50:00.760
stole for professional wrestling. And now
like arguably two of the biggest names,
711
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:06.599
if not the two biggest names,
are now off the radar with will Osbury
712
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signing with AW and reportedly mjf Re
signing with AW. So we'll see heading
713
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twenty twenty four if it ever lives
up to that hot soap potential that everybody's
714
00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:21.039
getting hyped up for because we had
never seen this, especially with the way
715
00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:25.119
that the Internet ages and you know
there was no like in ninety seven,
716
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two thousand and one. It wasn't. The internet wasn't what it is now.
717
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And I think to have that type
of information at your fringing tips with
718
00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:38.239
news reporting and podcasting and this person
go there, do they go here?
719
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And whining and dining and all good
stuff would have been cool and different to
720
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say. Nonetheless, let's get into
w Survivers Series War Games preview predictions.
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It comes to us this Saturday from
the All State Arena in Rosemont, Illinois,
722
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:55.960
will preview predict here the five matches, and then we will announce the
723
00:50:57.039 --> 00:50:59.960
holiday schedule and then let you go
be on your merry way for your things
724
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skiving holiday. Here on this week's
edition of SRTU Doc Trey, let's get
725
00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:07.760
to the first match here, Carlito
taking on Santos Escobar, which is announced
726
00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:09.679
on Friday Night's Backdown. I like
that these guys are getting the opportunity to
727
00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:14.840
perform. I'm gonna take Santos Escobar
in this one. Who do you like?
728
00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:20.840
Yeah, I'm taking Santos Escobar with
Cruise and Joaquin turning on the lwoo.
729
00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:22.800
Yeah, I'm with you on that. I like that's the rumors right
730
00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:25.960
now, there's gonna be like these
separate factions, and I do feel like
731
00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:32.159
legato'dell Phantasma reunites. Here. Are
we gonna get l w O red and
732
00:51:32.320 --> 00:51:37.400
LWO green? Yeah? I think
so? Why not? Right? Yeah?
733
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:40.880
Read and grew. Well, there's
the Sometimes they're blue and red for
734
00:51:42.079 --> 00:51:45.639
the Puerto Rican flag. Sometimes they're
red, white and green for the Mexico
735
00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:50.440
flag. There you go, gun
Through Defensie Intercontinental Championship against the Miz Doctor
736
00:51:50.440 --> 00:51:52.400
Trey. Who do you like this
one? I love the Mis, but
737
00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:57.280
I'm taking gun there to retain I
am as well. But I think this
738
00:51:57.400 --> 00:52:01.679
is a match that the Miz earns
Gunther's respect and support. I think that's
739
00:52:01.719 --> 00:52:05.039
the storyline heading in this one,
and that's how I think it plays out
740
00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:07.760
true, where at the end of
the match, Gunther is like pleased and
741
00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:13.039
respects the Miz at the end of
it. Yeah, I did like the
742
00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:15.719
whole Like, I know I'm not
fighting the Miss. I know I'm fighting
743
00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:19.239
Mike Mizana line from Raw the other
night. Yeah No, there was a
744
00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:22.039
really good promo between the two guys. Next match year is Riea Ripley defending
745
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:25.239
the Women's World Championship against Zoe Stark. I'm going to take Ria Ripley to
746
00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:30.280
retain. Yeah, I really want
to pick Zoe and I think in a
747
00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:32.400
year this is where Zoe. I
think a year from now Zoe wins this
748
00:52:32.519 --> 00:52:35.920
match, but right now I'm taking
to Reea Ripley to retain as well.
749
00:52:36.719 --> 00:52:38.840
Next match year is the Women's War
Games. Match is Bianca Bella, Charlotte
750
00:52:38.840 --> 00:52:43.119
Flairer, Shatzi, and Becky Lynch
take on Damage Control Bailey, EO Sky,
751
00:52:43.239 --> 00:52:45.000
Oscar and Kyrie. Saying Tree,
who do you like this one?
752
00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:52.760
I'm taking Shatzis, Charlotte, Becky
and uh Bianca uh man that they have
753
00:52:52.840 --> 00:52:57.360
more name power. Plus I think
this is where the rest of Damage Controlled
754
00:52:57.599 --> 00:53:01.199
kicks Bailey out coming out of this
match. Yeah, that I'm taking Bianca,
755
00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:04.679
Charlotte, Shotsy and Becky as well, and I'm with you. I
756
00:53:04.760 --> 00:53:07.159
think that's the storyline in this one, is that this leads to Bailey being
757
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:10.800
kicked out of Damage Control, which
will be strange that she will be back
758
00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:15.880
as a babyface, possibly Doctor Trey. Yeah, and then it's a question
759
00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:21.320
of does Dakota stay with EO,
Osca and Kyrie or does she get kicked
760
00:53:21.320 --> 00:53:23.440
out as well because she's injured.
It's hard to kick somebody out who's injured,
761
00:53:23.960 --> 00:53:29.400
but then it's hard. She then
becomes the fourth wheel in a sense,
762
00:53:29.519 --> 00:53:32.039
like one of these is not like
the other three. So it's to
763
00:53:32.119 --> 00:53:36.239
be interesting what they do with Zakota
Kai. I think she stays because she's
764
00:53:36.360 --> 00:53:38.320
kind of in their mouthpiece, so
I could see that role being played out
765
00:53:38.320 --> 00:53:43.519
as she recovers some injury. I
think to up your question is, does
766
00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:47.880
Bailey return to be the hugger?
Ooh, maybe the high fiber. I
767
00:53:47.920 --> 00:53:52.840
don't know, but now that looks
like you can get Bailey, Charlotte and
768
00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:57.119
Becky against EO, Kyrie and Oscar, which would be really really entertating few
769
00:53:57.199 --> 00:54:01.800
as well, or or Bianca Charlott, It and ba I think you're still
770
00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:05.119
go to end up a Bianca,
end up a Jade at some point like
771
00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:07.639
this, Oh yeah, I'm with
you, I'm with you. I thought
772
00:54:07.639 --> 00:54:10.639
they were kind of teasing the whole
Bailey hugger stuff because they all hugged on
773
00:54:10.760 --> 00:54:14.679
SmackDown and she said, I don't
do this anymore, all right, haven't
774
00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:15.360
done it in a long time.
And I was like, hmm, they
775
00:54:15.440 --> 00:54:21.119
got my Spider Sense tingling next batch
here Men's Wargames match could Road Seth,
776
00:54:21.159 --> 00:54:25.960
Freaking Ronalds, Jay Uzo, Sammy
Zay and they returning Randy Orton take on
777
00:54:27.079 --> 00:54:30.639
the Judgment Day Damian Priest, Finvaler, Dirty Dominic, Mysterio and JD McDonough,
778
00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:34.119
who are also joined by Drew McIntyre
who is not part of the Judgment
779
00:54:34.199 --> 00:54:37.039
Day Doctor Trey, I will start
on this one. I'm gonna take Cody,
780
00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:42.679
Seth, Jay, Sammy and Randy
Orton winning this, and I foresee
781
00:54:42.880 --> 00:54:47.199
that this starts the cracks in the
Judgment Day where they begin similar to the
782
00:54:47.280 --> 00:54:52.440
match we just discussed on the verge
of kicking out Damian Priests and maybe he
783
00:54:52.559 --> 00:54:55.920
gets replaced by an eventual Drew McIntyre. So I've team Cody, Seth,
784
00:54:57.119 --> 00:55:00.599
Jay, Sammy and Randy Orton won
in this one. See, I have
785
00:55:00.719 --> 00:55:04.360
a hard time with them because I
picked the baby faces in the women's match,
786
00:55:04.559 --> 00:55:08.360
and typically they try to do one
surprise. So I think I'll take
787
00:55:08.519 --> 00:55:13.920
Judgment Day because Drew turning is the
cool new thing, even though Randy returnings
788
00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:17.559
up there, but I think I'll
take I think I'll take Judgment Day just
789
00:55:17.639 --> 00:55:22.440
because like, I can't have two
babyface teams win at Wargames, so I'll
790
00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:24.760
take Judgment day either win. Now, I hear you. I had a
791
00:55:24.840 --> 00:55:29.360
tough time making that call as well, but I gotta be different from you
792
00:55:29.480 --> 00:55:32.440
on least one match. Fair enough, fair enough. We will recap and
793
00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:37.440
review WW Survivor Series war Games on
next week's edition of SRTU on November thirtieth.
794
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Speaking of upcoming editions of SRTU,
we always do this on the Thanksgiving
795
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Said Special, the holiday schedule announcement
Thursday December twenty first, our traditional we
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look back at our twenty twenty three
Both Prediction Special Thursday December the twenty eighth.
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It is the last show of twenty
twenty three, which is our annual
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two thousand, twenty three SRT Award
Show Special, and then we kick off
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twenty twenty four on Thursday January fourth
with our twenty twenty four Wrestling Preview show.
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I know aw World's End is going
on during the SRT Award Show and
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the wrestling preview show, Doctor Trey
and I will talk about this off air
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a little bit, but I have
a feeling that we'll probably do either some
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sort of quick bonus editions of the
podcast where we preview the show and then
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maybe predict it during the holiday schedule, or we may just throw them up
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on the Facebook and Twitter feeds of
what our predictions are and then recap them
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at a later time after the wrestling
preview show. So there you go,
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Doctor Trey. The holiday schedule has
been announced. It's going to be here
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in less than four weeks, which
is wild to think about. My friend,
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Yeah, it's weird, like this
is the I don't know you like,
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this feels like the first normal year
we've had in quite a while.
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Like in previous years they kind of
like it becomes of the pandemic. It
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kind of felt like it made me
drugged through a little longer. Twenty twenty
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three kind of flew by, So
I guess this is also the showing that,
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hey, we're actually kind of back
to normal now. But holiday schedule
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our favorite time of year because everybody
knows how much I hate the Bull Prediction
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shows and I hate the recap from
the Bull Prediction show, So looking forward
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to see how stupid I said it
last year and how idiotic I'll be coming
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into twenty twenty four. Every year, I always enjoy When Doctor Trey brings
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up that he sounds like a redneck
Termit the Frog. I mean, it's
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such a contrasting styles that I'm like, Wow, I did not see that
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one coming, but he catches me. Every time holiday schedule is upon us,
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folks, it's only a matter of
weeks, which is insane. But
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twenty twenty three is coming to a
close here in the next four to five
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weeks. Would that said, let's
get a couple of plugs in spots out
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of the way. You can download
show every Thursday or Friday at Real Guy
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rated dot com, Russell Chattnett on
X and the still Real to Show iTunes
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feed. Don't forget to rate,
review and subscribe to help us come the
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charts on iTunes. You can follo
us individually and X for myself at SRTU
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Jeff and for Doctor Trey Franklin at
the Doctor Tray, And of course don't
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forget to follow a show on X
at SRTU podcast. With that being said,
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what is going on in the one
for world of Doctor tre Franklin this
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week? Well, like Jeff said, you can follow me on X at
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the Doctor Trey. You can find
me on Facebook and Instagram doctor Trey Franklin.
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When you're on Facebook, check out
Rocke City Championship Wrestling and Spartan Championship
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Wrestling to the shows I work with
here in Alabama. As December second,
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Jeff is the seven year anniversary show
of Rocket City Championship Wrestling, So we
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talk about time flying by like I
was here. We were doing the show
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when Rocket City launched, and now
we're hitting the seven year anniversary. So
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December second, seven year anniversion,
which also means the Rocket City Rumble will
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be right around the first of January, which is also one of our favorite
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shows the year because dear Lord,
we've had cameraman, crowd people, ballets,
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just everybody in the world has jumped
into a rouble at one point or
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the other. I mean Conrad Top
and Tons Shiovanni have come down and watched
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the Rubble. So it's one of
our favorite shows of the year. So
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that was just coming up first of
January. So seven years of Rockett Championship
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Wrestling, thirteen years of the Still
Realtor Show, and neither of us have
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died yet, So thank you.
Yeah, there's not on wood. Not
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on wood. I'm very thankful for
that to wrap it all up with that
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said, thank you for making this
part of your week. Thank you for
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making this part of your Thanksgiving holiday
week for all those that celebrated. To
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everybody celebrating Thanksgiving Holiday, Enjoy the
holiday, Enjoy the time, Enjoy the
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food, Enjoy the fun, Enjoy
the family, Enjoy the professional wrestling.
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Nonetheless until next week. For doctor
Trey Franklin, I'm Jeff Pack. This
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is the Still Real Toes Show.
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It's still welcome everybody. Welcome to
this week's edition mister A Realta Show EPISOD
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number seven, nineteen November twenty third, twenty twenty three. This is your
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aw Pole Deer Recap and w WEE
sur Robert Series, more Games, the
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Review and for addictions edition of ass
R Team You. I am One Apple
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the Show. I Am Jack Peck
joined every single week on call with Tomorrow
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on the Doctor Trey Franklin, Doctor
Trey, Happy Thanksgiving, my Friend.
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Okay, you went with the most
basic. I thought you're gonna ask me
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if I've ever drank somebody's blood.
I thought You're gonna asking if I've ever
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worn a devil's mask. I thought
you were asking if if I hear voices
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in my head? And you went
with Happy Thanksgiving with Jeff, Happy thanks
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my friend, Happy Thanksgiving. You
know, I think any other week I
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would have absolutely opened up with something
along those lines. I like the Hangman
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page reference that you started off with
because it freaked the hell out of me
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on Saturday night. But yeah,
this is it's this is one of those
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shows we've done now for thirteen years
of SRTU, starting off in twenty ten
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and once we switched over from Saturday
to Thursdays, we have always done a
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Thanksgiving show. I've always said,
if you need to get away from family
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for a little bit and you want
to listen to two guys talk about professional
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wrestling for forty minutes to an hour, this is your cup of tea right
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now. And I don't know.
This has always been like a good catapult
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for me for the Thanksgiving holiday,
get the holiday season going, and slowly
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whine down the year. So I'm
in a good festive holiday mood, doctor
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Tree, because it's one of my
favorite, if not my favorite holiday now,
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Thanksgiving. And it's weird how we
have it's everything's progressed as we lounch
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the show because for a while,
Survivor series kind of became an afterthought for
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a little while, Like when the
show first started, like that we weren't
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doing anything, you know, we
didn't have war games, we weren't doing
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like we already had a battleground show, so it wasn't really brand bursts brand.
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It was kind of almost you know, Survivor Seris was having left in
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the background, and none of the
other brands were really doing big Thanksgiving shows,
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so we would do our favorite tag
teams or our best of our favorite
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Thanksgiving moments or things like that.
So and then now we live in a
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world where it was like, oh, there's like four big there's all these
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companies running all these big wrestling shows
on right around Thanksgiving. So we don't
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get to tell the fans the top
five things that wrestling we're most thankful for
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because we have excuse me, preview
up, the adictions and recaps. I'm
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so sorry about that. By bad
like we talked about off air, but
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there's always recaps, previous predictions,
everything else, and was I started to
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catch up the Jeff so he doesn't
make me say this year, which he
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forgot about last year. So yeah, it's totally fine. It's we've kind
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of gone past it. I feel
like we've been done that last like the
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three years of doing the prediction stuff
and more or less just now something we
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can keep track of and has some
fun. But yeah, I mean doctor
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Trey doing a ton of callbacks to
I remember like five things that we were
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thankful for in professional wrestling that wasn't
always a good show to put in the
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books for Thanksgiving or you know,
things that are tied to Thanksgiving as wrestling
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fans, I always remember us telling
the stories of for me, like Survivor
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Series ninety three was one of those
shows that got me into professional wrestling.
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And how much you know Thanksgiving holiday
was a big wrestling holiday, like they
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would do Survivor Series on Thanksgiving.
Doctor Trey talking about watching wrestling with his
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grandmother, you know, during the
Thanksgiving holidays, Like it's it's stuff like
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that that ties us all into this
holiday professional Wrestlane. But like Doctor Trey
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said, there is a ton of
stuff going on professional wrest right now sandwiched
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in between like a good Thanksgiving leftover. On Friday afternoon, two major pay
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per views from two different major United
States companies. Let's start with aw full
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gear recap review. Doctor Trade came
to us this past Saturday from the Key
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Of Forum in Inglewood, California.
We had three pre show matches, the
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first being Eddie Kingston defeeding Jay Lethal
to retain the ROH World Championship. We
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did not predict this one. This
actually had a storyline leading into it,
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which is pretty cool to see,
which is a theme for this entire show.
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I want to preface this all by
saying that this was one of the
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better creatively booked shows that AW has
done in some time, because there was
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a storyline tied to every single match, which there are times that AW does
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not do that. They just throw
matches together and it makes you scratch you
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had, It makes you go like, why should I give a shit?
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So I want to preface it by
saying that ed even with the pre show,
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I'm not a fan of ROH World
CHAMPIONSIP being on the pre show zero
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Hour, but nonetheless, Eddie Kingston
defeats Jay Lethal in a good, solid
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match what you expect from Kingston and
Lethal, and it was an enjoyable start
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to the pre show Doctor Trey.
Yeah, and even having a stokely Hathaway
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on commentary to help even build the
story up even more as him being part
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of the board of director's for Ring
of Honor, which I didn't know that
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was a thing, So it was
nice. But yeah, it was a
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fun match. The only my only
issue, and it's not with the match,
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it's kind of with the Continental Classic
is after the match, Eddie Kingson
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threw his name in a half for
that and now we're talking about the American
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Triple Crown Champion. I'm like,
doesn't that then devalue the Ring of Honor
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title if this guy's willing to risk
it to become the Continental Champion, Like,
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does that put that title even lower
on the mantle. But that's just
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me being nitpicky about the hierarchy of
professional wrestling titles is just ridiculous anyway.
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But the match yourself, it's fine. It was solid. You got to
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see you know, Stanham saying try
to do the strut, which I thought
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was kind of was cute, but
overall solid match which you would expect from
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two guys like Eddie Kingston and Jay
Lethal. Yeah. I mean, there's
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so much to discuss there, the
way that roh has been booked under Tony
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Kahan's ownership, even the Continental Championship, which when they first announced the Continental
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Classic, I was like, oh, this is pretty cool, and I
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thought that somebody was just getting in
a championship like trophy like they do for
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the owen Hart Cup. But then
when I've realized that it was another championship
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being added to aw that could be
a show in itself. But I'm gonna
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digress from that right now and just
get to the next match, which is
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Claudio cast and only defeating Buddy Murphy. We did not predict that one as
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well. My only issue with this
match is that Claudio and Buddy should be
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on the main show, another enjoyable
pre show match on zero hour Doctor try
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Yeah, and then you're watching a
matching man. Why didn't WW do this
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do this match more often for these
two guys, because, I mean,
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we all know Claudio. Claudio is
the modern to me, is the modern
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day Lance Storm, like Lancethorm,
a guy that, if you watch him
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wrestle, should have been a world
champion multiple times, and just because of
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perceived promo skills or whatever, never
got to that level. And then Buddy
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Matthews watching him work a singles match, you forget how good he is and
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how impressed with an athlete he is. So this was a really solid match
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up team two. I don't want
to say young guys, because both these
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guys are ten fifteen, twenty year
vets but maybe underappreciated talents in the world
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of professional wrestling. But like you
said, like this could have been a
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main show card any other time.
And also, you know what a four
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day build up to it? What? You know? It's it was a
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storyline, but it was a short
storyline to get to the match, but
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the little bump at the end of
the match sets it up so that maybe
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we get House of Black versus Blackpoole
Combat Club, which that will be really
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fun. Yeah. Yeah, there's
a lot of good stuff going on there
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that can come from this match.
And again, like it was a zero
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R match, I was happy because
it was free. And then the next
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match here, MJF and samoo Jo
defeated Guns to retain the ROH World Tig
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Team Championship. This was the only
match going into it that we did predict
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on zero hours and we both at
MGF and samo Joe. I thought the
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match was fine and it helped set
up the main show with the Andrey angle
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with MJF postmatch. My problem with
this though, was I thought Samojo was
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going to be a friend to MJF
until his title match and not just the
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tag team match the defendent titles at
full gear. So the explanation of like
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I'm gonna protect you was confusing because
I would have figured that Samojo would have
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come down, out, come out
to make the save. That's being a
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nitpicky to me, and I don't
know if this resonated with you, Doctor
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Trey. I had a lot of
old school late nineties Sunday Night Heat vibes
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where WWE would have Sunday Night Heat
before the pay per view and they would
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run an angle that made sense and
carried itself through the rest of the pay
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per view. And that's what this
did. Being nitpicky on the Samo Joe
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stuff aside, the storyline of mgf's
injury going into the main show was really
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well done and really well executed.
I did have a funny like haha moment
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that I'm sure has been picked up
on Twitter. I really don't go on
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that platform anymore. But at the
end of Zero Hour, where Adam Cole
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is saying to himself, like what
am I going to do? He said
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it twice and they panned back and
you could see the backstage area behind Adam
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Cole and who's walking down the steps, but one of the guns it looked
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like Austin gun. I'm like,
oh shit that if you go back and
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watch Zero Hour unless they've edited out, I thought that was a very funny
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thing. You could see clearly see
the tights of one of the guns,
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and you know, just to spend
my disbelief. Nonetheless, match was fine.
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Samoa Joe angle was confusing. The
injury angle was really well done.
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Doctor Treer thoughts, Yeah, my
only issue with it is, you know,
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you're building up You've been building up
bullet Clip Gold to be like this
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dominant, you know, pretty strong
fashion. I kind of wanted the Guns
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to have I don't want to say
a little bit, and maybe they got
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enough. I just felt like they
didn't look strong enough in the match,
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and then they got their payback on
the post match beating down. I'm with
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you. It confused me because they
kept saying that Joe is helping MJF so
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that he can get a shot at
MJF, you know, and that's how
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much. But that made me think
that if Jay White won, Joe doesn't
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get a shot, and then so
then why wouldn't Joe run into make the
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save when the Guns are beating down
MJF. Because by weakening MJF, Joe
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might be losing his title shots.
So that's why I got confused with it,
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and I was like, well,
that doesn't make a lot of sense.
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the injury angle, like you said,
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like that was old school, like
we're going to tie this into the
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pay per view later tonight. Then
you know, just MJF on the stretcher
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begged, don't let them take my
title. Don't let them take my title,
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And I don't know about you.
I was confused when MZF came down
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with only one Ring of Honor Tag
Team title belt, because I was like,
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well, that just gives it away
that the Guns aren't winning, because
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then you got to go track down
the other belt to award it all.
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So that was also like just a
little nitpiggy pin. But overall, like
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the match was good. I just
wish the Guns had a little bit more
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offense. But that's also because right
now, I think you and I can
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both agree that we're both kind of
guns marks right now because they're very very
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entertaining. They have been very very
entertaining. They've really grown on me as
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the time has gone on. Onto
the main show. Here, Sting Darby
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Allen, Adam Copeland defeat Christian Cage, Lucasaurce and Nick Wayne. We had
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Sting's team both predicted to win.
Nice opener to kick off the show.
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The crowd was really excited for this
one and behind the match throughout I'm intrigued
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to see where Christian accidentally hitting Lucasaurs
with the T and T Championship and then
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leaving them behind will play out moving
forward. A Lucasaurus face turn feels like
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it's coming sooner rather than later.
Let me preface again by saying, Doctor
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treynar recording this Tuesday night of Thanksgiving
week. This show will probably be made
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available on Wednesday, So obviously Doctor
Trannon are not watching ton of Mine on
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Wednesday night to see if there is
any follow up from anything in aw Nonetheless,
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Doctor Trey Sting, Darby, Adam
Copland get the victory. You got
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Adam Copeland in face paint as well, Like that was a nice little touch
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that reminded me of the old school
NWAWCW, the dudes with attitudes or you
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know Sting's squadron, you know,
and all the guys that do the face
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paint. That was a little bit
homage to the throwback. The match himself
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was fine, nothing shocking or surprising
other than you know, the Lucasaurus bump
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and then Christian walking out, by
the way, what a great name for
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a stable the patriarchy. That was
great, and that was like a little
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throwaway line that I think Nigel said
towards the end of the match, like
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you know, what's Christia's cage would
do with him walking out of the patriarchy.
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I was like, Oh, if
that's a stable name, that's great.
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I love that it was on the
Titan tron. See I'm watching it
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from my phone, so I couldn't
see some of the finer like the smaller
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print stuff. So that was my
That was my issue because I had to
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watch it that such a small screen. So but I love that it's great
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name. So and then why nobody
canna be that name in all these years
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of professional wrestling baffles me. So
I don't know if it's I don't know
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if we've got enough lucassaurus abuse to
really dive into a full flinched face turn,
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because maybe his face turn is still
a little too early considering his heel
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turn wasn't that long ago, so
I still think people picture him as a
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baby face at time. So I
think we need a little bit more of
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you. You have to, you
have to really really abuse the monster before
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the monster turns to go off on
his own, so that it's can vibes
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right, Yeah, yeah, it
really is but it's like you got to
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beat on the monster more and more
and make it more sympathetic. And I
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don't think we've got to the point
where we feel bad for Lucasaurus yet.
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I think it's getting there. I
think it's getting there, though, Doctor
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Try I do. I mean that
choke slam onto the apron of Darby Allen,
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I'm like, I don't know.
I think it feels bad for that
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guy that just literally tossed Darby like
he was like a second potatoes. All
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it takes is like a really shitty
heel, which Christian is though, or
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just like light them on fire.
Sure gues you could do that too,
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and it always gets people sympathetic.
Next match is Orange Casside defeating John Moxley
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to retain the aw International Championship.
John Moxley, I had doctor trade Orange
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Cassidy. Fantastic match. I really
enjoy seeing that. The dynamic that Moxley
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brings out a whole new side of
Orange Cassady we typically never see. Cassidy
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going over clean on mox is a
huge deal and well deserved for one of
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the best wrestlers this year in Orange
Cassidy, Big Winford. Orange Cassidy Doctor
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Tracy defeats John Moxley. Yeah,
and I love the way they booked it
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because you know Orange starting off strong
and Moxley no selling it and then Moxley
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basically beating his ass for most of
the match until you got the comeback.
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But then you thought you thought Ornge
got the desperation in Cassidy get to win,
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like busting out red Rum, you
know, throwing what like's like five
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or six Orange punches in a row
and try and put Moxley down. Like
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it was a really compelling match.
But also it just shows that Max is
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one of those guys that goes,
hey, we need to elevate this guy,
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and the only way we can do
it is make him give him depth
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to the character. We have to
make him look that he can pull out
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the more physical side of his character. I also love Moxton Hawking is the
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Orch Cakes as well, Like that
was kind of funny too. So overall,
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like really really good match, really
strong match, and it sets up
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Orch Cassidy for another strong run and
the now can move mox Claudio and Wheeler
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over to the Black cool comback,
I mean over the House of Black if
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you want to go that round One
of my favorite things about professional wrestling is
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when you see an established star and
there's no title that there is a title,
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whatever the case may be, is
in the background, but you see
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an established star helping elevate a star
that you feel like, as a wrestling
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fan, could use some elevation.
You saw that with the Moxley Orange Cassidy
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feud. You see it later on
with Hangman at a Page getting more out
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of Swerve Strickland. You're seeing it
in WWE right now, like very subtly.
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One of my favorite things in wrestling
right now is these random Becky Lynch
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feuds where she's feuding with Tiagan Knox, she's feuding with Lyra Valkyrie, she's
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feuding with Zaia Lee and elevating their
games. And that's what Moxley did.
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I really enjoy that aspect of professional
wrestling when these established stars helped put over
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new talent to create new stars,
and that's like the circle of life per
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se in professional wrestling. That's what
we saw this past Saturday night with John
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Moxley taking the l against Orange Cassidy. Next match here is timeless Tony Storm
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defeating Karloshita to win the aw Women's
World Championship. We both had time with
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Tony Storm. I feel bad for
Shida because her last two title reigns have
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been met, but the decision to
put the title on Tony makes sense,
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as she has so much momento and
popularity lately. The finish was clunky and
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the match was fine, but they
had a tough act following Cassidy. You
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know, she tried to put that
pan down her I can't believe I'm saying
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this down her pants to do the
hip attack, and even the announcers were
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laughing because she was having like wardrobe
malfunctions. And then she'd went in the
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corner. Tony went halfway, then
went back and then did the hip attack.
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It was very clunky but timeless.
Tony Storms our new aw Women's World
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Champion. Doctor Trey. Yeah,
not to mention when when Aubrey's counting the
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pinfall, her head is literally eight
inches from the plate coming out of Tony
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Storm's bridges, as a Tas alluded
to on the call. Yeah, the
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match yourself was The match yourself was
decent. It's just the finish got really
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clucking. Cat took it away,
and you know, this is this is
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match and the response to Timeless Tony
Storm is one of those things I point
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out to young wrestlers who don't like
gimmicks Like Tony Storm. You and I
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loved her in the May Young Classic
through entire run, and it's this gimmick
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that has get Hurt to another level. And then you look at some of
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the like the you know, some
of the people, we're like, you
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know, we miss bray White.
It was the bray White gimmick. They
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gotta bo I'm gonna take this gimmick. Gotamo with these these crazy gimmicks that
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can establish another depth of the character, helps elevate the game, and it
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stands out because it's so different from
what everybody else is doing. So in
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a world like AW or in the
Superindependence where everybody's five ten, one hundred
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and ninety five pounds, sometimes you
got to think outside of the box to
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really get a good crowd response.
So I applaud Tony Storm for taking a
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risk because it's such a divergent character
for what she's done for pretty much her
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entire career. But she's making it
work and it's being very very successful.
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So outside of the Klucky Fish,
I'm just happy for Tony Storm. And
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getting this character over. Next match
here was Ricky Starks and Big Bill defeating
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LFI FTR and The King of the
Black Throne and a four way tag team
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match, retaining aw World Tag Team
Championship. I'm Ricky Starks, a Big
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Bill dot Trade FDR great. My
only negative feedback is I think rustling fans
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are spoiled with the amount of tag
team ladder matches we have seen the last
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twenty to twenty five years, which
makes it harder to do anything we haven't
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seen before. Nonetheless, all eight
men brought it and put on a great,
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heart hitting show for the fans on
Saturday night. Ricky Stark's a Big
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Bell retaining made sense to me because
then they needed a win like this for
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their title rate to continue growing.
Doctor Trey, your thoughts on the fatal
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four way ladder match, Yeah,
it's it's you're getting into the spots and
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wrestling where you're like, is anything
or like to me, the most original
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spot in the entire match was just
Malachi Black flipping the ladder back in the
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in the cash wheeler, like I'm
like, oh crap, I've never seen
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somebody use the rope kind of like
in that manner to the springboard the ladder
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back into somebody you know, but
like you know, you see Brody Kane
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do that big godz obamb of Dealstico
on the ladder and you're just like,
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eh, that look gruff. It's
like we are kind of spoiled as to
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what we've seen over the last you
know, twenty years when it comes the
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ladder matches. I mean the ladder
match was it was good, it was
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solid, it was fun, it
was entertaining. It works for Ricky Starks
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in Big Bill, so, like
you said, establish their tag team run.
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But as much as I like Ricky
Starks in Big Bill, I mean,
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given what happens later in the show, is is a Golden Jet Ricky
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Stark Big Bill match like a money
drawing match? Yet I don't know.
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So that's that was kind of why
I was leaning towards FDR, just because
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I thought that would be a bigger
draw for the tag team division, but
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because I don't I don't really know
if you need to keep building up new
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tag teams when you have so much
depth in your tag team division. I
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guess it's kind of my thought process. I think at times the tag team
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division doesn't actually get executed correctly in
my mind, Yeah, I mean,
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I mean when you look at you
look at the card. I mean you
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like, in the last couple of
shows, I mean you've had MTF beat
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an established tag team. You dow
had MTF and Samoa Joe beat an established
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tag team, Omega and Jericho being
established tag team, Ricky Stars and Big
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Bill beat three established tag teams.
So these are a lot of these single
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stars being meshed together, and you're
kind of diluting your tag team talent by
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doing so. So as much talent
as they have, it's these single stars
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thrown together that are kind of dominating
the division right now. Next match here
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is Julia Hart defeating Chris Statlander and
sky Blue in a triple threat match to
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win the AWTBS Championship. Dot Trannon
both had Julie Hard getting the victory.
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Solid triple threat match. Julia Hart
and sky Blue have really raised their games
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and characters throughout the year, and
Statlander, who is an established starr,
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helped get them over as equals.
Again going back to what I said earlier
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in the show with Moxley and Lawrence
Cassie. Another example this year with Chris
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Statlander working with sky Blue and Julia
Hart. Julia Hart deserves the title as
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she has been very much improved in
the ring, but I hate to see
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it come at the hands of Chris
Statlander. Maybe this means stat Lander shifts
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are focused on the aw Women's World
Championship coming out of this, as she
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didn't take the pin and a Julia
Hart sky Blue feud continues forward, Doctor
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Trey, we have a new AWTBS
champion and it's Julia Hart. Yeah,
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really happy for I thought the triple
threat match was solid. I just I
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don't know. There are points this
match where I thought it was like three
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versions of Rhea Ripley fighting each other. I guess, like everybody wants to
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be Gothic or just a badass right
now. So like and I was trying
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to figure out the whole You're still
trying to figure out the story between sky
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Blue and Julia Hart as well.
So I'm with you. I think they
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should move stat Lander up into the
main women's picture. Let Julia Hart,
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sky Blue, Willow Nightingale, Red, Velvet Green, Jello, anybody else
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in the vision that they want to
throw in there that has a color food
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theme as well. Let them battle
it out, let them kind of sort
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their characters out, because to me, the TBS title is your Women's Proving
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Ground Championship and then to move them
up into the main picture. So but
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yeah, I'm really happy for Julia
Hart because she may have progressed farther in
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a year than I have ever seen
any other female wrestler do. Like she
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was god awful with Brian Pillman and
Griff Garrison and now I actually enjoy watching
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her work a match. So that's
just tremendous progress in twelve to eighteen months
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I've seen somebody do. Oh,
she's been fantastic, one of the best
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Moon salts. I like the submission
finisher they have there. What is that?
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Is it? Heartless? Heartless?
Yes? Yeah, I mean that's
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a great like it's a almost looks
like a Rings of Saturn type submission.
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Yeah, she's been really well improved. I'm very happy for Julia Hart winning
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the AWTVS Championship because she deserves it. She's been really really good the last
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couple of months. Newly married also
yeah, Lee Johnson, right, yeah,
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yeah, somebody that I've worked a
show with got to marry Julia Hart.
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So LEO. Part of me is
a little sad. Hey you never
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know does try next match? Here
is Swerve Strickland defeat and Hangman Adam Page
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in a Texas death match. We
both had Hagman Adam paid to get the
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victory. Doctor Trey, what do
you say about this one? It's a
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brutal, violent, legendary masterpiece,
A top match in twenty twenty three,
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one of the most memorable AW matches
since its inception. This feud has been
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short but extremely good. I didn't
think Swerve Strickland could elevate his game,
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but then he does it again and
again and again, and then does it
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again. Amazing performance by both men. Have put themselves through that type of
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human mutilation and punishment all for wrestling
fans entertainment. There are several spots we
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could sit here and go I can't
believe they did this. I can't believe
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they did that. Hangman Page drinking
the blood, the barricade, pile driver
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Spot, pouring water over each of
their heads so that the blood just like
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dripped like crazy off of their heads. What a match, Doctor Trey.
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Swerve Strickland, Hangman had a Page. If they don't get a standing ovation
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on Dynamite on Wednesday night. Then
I don't know what's wrong with this wrestling
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fan them? Can this be Few
to the year already? I mean,
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it's like jumped up so much.
I mean in a short amount of time.
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I mean, I don't know if
we've ever seen a few go from
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like zero to a thousand this quickly. I mean, and even even the
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even the Wrestle Dream match what maybe
what didn't have the blood but was so
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hard hitting and so just action packed
like these guys. The chemistry these two
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have pull off in such a short
amount of time is incredible. I was
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waiting to hear your evaluation of the
match because I've seen people knock this match
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because of the one spot, and
I'm like, you take out the blood
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drinking spot, which I mean for
all for health reasons, maybe isn't the
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best thing in the world, but
you know this match is not good for
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health reasons, doctor try yeah,
But you know, like everything else in
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this match was like incredible and hard
hitting and you could feel the intensity.
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And you know, my only knock
on this match wasn't even the bloodering spot.
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By the my knockings match is if
either of these guys ever lose a
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match, cleanly in under twelve minutes. I'm gonna be like, what the
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hell, Like you've got staple barbed
wired like you know, pile driven on
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a guard rail, took three buckshot
lariats in a top rope detta Like you
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took all these things, they still
kept fitting up and you know you're gonna
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get schoolboy Robot can't kick out,
Like but you haven't. These guys better
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lose when he makes like four or
five months Like It's just it was that
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level of almost insanity. It's like
I I it's redefined the genre of what
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death I don't say death match wrestling
because I don't put it in the same
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grouping as like some of those GCW
guys do, like the God Bless Him.
388
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I love the death He's a good
friend of mine, John White,
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Burdock's in the world and Nick gage
Is. I don't classify this match in
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that light. To me, this
is the old school versions of like the
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Dusty Rose totally blanded, I quit
matches and just with a modern twist on
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it. Like it was brutal,
it was physical, You felt the intensity.
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It suspended your disbelief because you wanted
to see Hangman beat the hell at
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a swerve for the home invasion Agle, Like all the stuff came together and
395
00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:30.000
like this little perfect storm for this
match, and I the part of me
396
00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:36.440
worries that it may be remembered for
the blood drinking spot and not the intensity
397
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and the violence of the tortality that
the other you know, twenty seven minutes
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of smash brought. Yeah, this
is it's a memorable match. Yeah,
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does it get It gets brutal,
right, it gets violent, and sometimes
400
00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:56.759
AW pushes the envelope a little bit
too much, but I think you just
401
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kind of come used to it,
right. I'm It's not my type of
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wrestling, but I respect it a
lot ultimately, and I respect this match
403
00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:10.119
and I do think it's a top
match in twenty twenty three. See what's
404
00:28:10.119 --> 00:28:14.079
weird as you go back to was
it mox Ley Omega when they had the
405
00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:18.440
uh the Pepaisan chair of barb Wire, you know, remether one to talk
406
00:28:18.440 --> 00:28:23.440
about like that spiral. Yeah,
it's like those matches felt like they did
407
00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:29.920
shit for the sake of doing stuff, where this match, with the way
408
00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:33.319
they presented it with the homeanvaate.
Look if some guy walked into my house
409
00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:37.200
while I was at work, and
was standing over little Samy Franklin and talking
410
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:41.240
shit like, yeah, I'm gonna
try to kill the guy, and that
411
00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:44.480
match. Because of that angle,
it led to this match, and it
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00:28:44.599 --> 00:28:48.799
made sense. So the brutality was
not for the sake of brutality, but
413
00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:53.200
it was brutality for the stake of
the storyline. And it reminded me of
414
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those action movies where the bad guy
kills you know, John Wick's dog and
415
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John Wick goes on a rampage or
spoiler alert, we're supposed to do that.
416
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:03.799
You know that, I know,
but I think we're on John Wick
417
00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:07.440
six now, so I think it's
okay to spoil one. Oh fair.
418
00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:11.119
But it's like it's those old school
action movies where something the villain does something
419
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to the guy's family and that guy
goes on a rampage that gives revenge.
420
00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:21.160
So it was it's violence and brutality
for the sake of the story, which
421
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in this light makes sense, where
some of these other death matches we've seen
422
00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:29.920
it's been brutality for the sake of
brutality or violence for the sake of violence,
423
00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:33.720
which to me, it diminishes this
genre. No, it's it's a
424
00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:37.039
fair, it's it's fair. I
get what you're saying. It's fair.
425
00:29:38.359 --> 00:29:42.839
Still very memorable, memorable match.
It reminds me of those old I Quip
426
00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:47.599
matches, the old bull Rump matches
when there was a long, lengthy feud
427
00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:51.119
and this was the way to blow
it off. And those guys made you
428
00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:52.960
feel like they were literally trying to
kill each other because of all the crap
429
00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:56.880
they've done to each other building up
to it. It's just this, they
430
00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:02.839
condensed it down to like a two
month period instead of six months or nine
431
00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:04.680
months like we used to do back
in the old AWA W c W.
432
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:11.759
I'm the match was surprising. I
thought the result was more surprising. I
433
00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:15.440
did not foresee Swerve Strickland going to
Zo on Hangman page in this feud.
434
00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:18.880
No, I really didn't either,
especially when it's a Texas death match.
435
00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:23.079
But then, you know, getting
Brian Cage involved, getting No involved kind
436
00:30:23.079 --> 00:30:30.079
of helped sell the finish because Nagas
say they like Swerve one because of the
437
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:37.240
help of Nana in Cage and it
doesn't diminish Hangman too much. And then
438
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:42.079
Hangman getting hung to finish the match
was kind of cool as well. Mm
439
00:30:42.119 --> 00:30:47.440
hmm. Yeah, really well,
really well done match for Strickland defeating Hangman
440
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:51.359
Adam Page. Next match, year's
the Golden Jets of feeding the Young Bucks
441
00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:53.640
as they get the Young Bucks aw
tag team title shot. We both have
442
00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:56.839
thek Golden Jets getting the victory.
Good storytelling throughout this match. They had
443
00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:00.279
a tough act to follow with Swerve
and Hangman and did a good job.
444
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:03.319
Still, I'm interest to see where
things go with the Young Bucks after their
445
00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:07.440
post match meltdown. As reporters are
staying there do for a heel turn along
446
00:31:07.440 --> 00:31:11.440
with Brandon Cutler, who has been
their mouthpiece online since the match took place,
447
00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:15.839
and one on other one other unnamed
personality, uh doctor, try the
448
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:19.759
gold and Jets get the victory.
Yeah, not to me, This was
449
00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:26.640
not a surprising finish, although I
do like my storyline idea that the Kenny
450
00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:30.039
and Chris would just tag up at
random Canadian shows and then the Bucks were
451
00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:32.920
like searching the Internet to try to
find videos so they can take him to
452
00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:36.799
Quarter or something for it. But
yeah, like, I don't know,
453
00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:41.759
the match was good, but maybe
as expecting a little bit more because it
454
00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:47.799
is four of the best wrestlers in
the world. I thought it was I
455
00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:49.079
thought it was good, but maybe
I was just thing a little bit more.
456
00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:55.680
But having Dog calls on commentary also
helped because he's like, You're like,
457
00:31:55.880 --> 00:31:56.720
just say to the guy, You're
like, yeah, I really just
458
00:31:56.920 --> 00:32:00.400
want anybody to win other than Doug
Kallaus. So I thought it was good
459
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:06.519
and it'll be interesting for progressing because
there's you know, when when does Kenny
460
00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:09.440
and Chris cash in, it does
callous cost of the tag bells or is
461
00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:14.440
callous at starts at Big Bill into
the Doug Kallas family because he does like
462
00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:19.480
he taking on uh people, parked
Tide in that family role as well.
463
00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:23.279
And then finally here the main event, MJF defeats Jay White to win the
464
00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:28.440
AW World Championship. MGF was our
pick for both from both of us in
465
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:31.480
this match. I really enjoyed how
the storyline played out from the zero hour
466
00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:35.640
pre show throughout the show up until
the main event, with the MGF injury
467
00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:37.759
angle and Adam Cole filling in.
At one point it was changed to Adam
468
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:43.160
Cole versus Jay White, which was
a nice little touch. The match itself
469
00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:45.319
was slow building, but the final
ten minutes were really good. It's funny
470
00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:49.680
to see MGF acting like an eighties
baby face at times, but he overcomes
471
00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:53.079
adversity by going back to his scumbag
ways by cheating with the dynamite diamond ring
472
00:32:53.200 --> 00:33:00.480
to get the pin on Jay White. MGF reportedly hurt his shoulder and also
473
00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:05.400
dislocated his hip that needed to be
popped back in after the failed announce your
474
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:09.240
table spot elbow dropped from the top
rope. Do't try your thoughts here.
475
00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:15.880
MJF defeats Jay White to retain the
aw World Championship. So the matches up.
476
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:19.599
When you said disokay, I thought
you were saying he dislocated the pre
477
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:22.920
show out when he did hit the
recruit hip gride, like that would be
478
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:24.599
a great way. Like it's like
it the way an old lady pops a
479
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:28.079
hip, you know she us emulated
recruited. The hip just goes out.
480
00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:30.839
But like the matches up. I
thought it was great old school storytelling,
481
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:35.640
like you have an injury, you're
selling the injury. I do like this
482
00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:40.359
weird, Like half the match,
MJF is whole Cogan and then the second
483
00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:44.759
half of the match he turns into
Rick Clair, Like yeah, the eighties
484
00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:49.319
baby face and then the eighties scumbag
heel. By the end, it's like
485
00:33:49.559 --> 00:33:53.640
it's almost like he's having this like
devil in Angel battle on his shoulders,
486
00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:58.680
deciding how he wins the match.
The only thing I didn't like was the
487
00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:01.599
Adam Cole like, oh, we're
gonna have an Adam Cole j White match,
488
00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:06.319
Like I didn't think you needed to
do that, Like you could have.
489
00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:09.880
You could have done it mister Miyagi
Daniel LaRusso style, where like you
490
00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:14.880
know they're about to award the belt
to Jay White and you know, Adam
491
00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:16.880
Cole comes rushing out and like,
no, m JFF wants to fight.
492
00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:21.320
M JFF wants to fight, and
JAFF wants to fight, and you could
493
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:22.840
have done that whole thing. It
would tied into the eighties thingue. But
494
00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:28.639
like the illusion that you were to
have Adam Cole actually get into a match
495
00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:32.400
I thought was kind of just dumb. And why the heck if he's getting
496
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:36.920
into the ring, is britt Baker
not running out to protect her husband from
497
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:42.920
doing something so stupid us well,
fiance, no, not even doctor Tree.
498
00:34:42.960 --> 00:34:45.280
We've been down this road. We've
tried talking to Adam about this.
499
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:50.760
Oh I missed it, My bad. Now this is awkward. I hope
500
00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:54.760
she's not listening. No, no, Nonetheless, M Jeff retains and it's
501
00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:59.719
still the EWE World Champion. I
went seven and two, Doctor treit went
502
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:02.360
seven two. In our predictions,
I'm at one fifteen and forty one Doctor
503
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:07.960
Trey, one O eight and forty
eight. Event rating match the night I
504
00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:09.480
gave full gear of four point three. I thought it was a very very
505
00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:14.639
solid and fun and entertaining show.
And my match the night Doctor Tray Swart
506
00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:17.440
Strickling hanging out a page I was
at. I was at a four to
507
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:21.400
four, so I was a little
bit ahead of you. And the only
508
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:23.920
reason I didn't go higher was because
after four and a half almost five hours,
509
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:28.840
I was kind of burning out.
Yeah no, rightfully, So I
510
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:32.440
mean, how is it zero hour? If it last ninety minutes, it's
511
00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:37.960
not an hour, then it's zero
ninety or whatever. But yeah, my
512
00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:40.239
imagine that I was also Swerve in
the Hangman page. That's that's gonna be
513
00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:44.440
like when we have great pay per
views, there's always that one match that's
514
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:46.239
going to stand out and will remember
this match at five or ten years,
515
00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:50.960
which makes it stand out even more. Yeah, No, it was.
516
00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:54.400
It was amazing to both of us
giving the show very high hopes. You
517
00:35:54.440 --> 00:35:58.840
know what's funny about everything, Doctor
Trey collectively. I want to go back
518
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:00.280
to what I said in the beginning
of the show, where I want to
519
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:04.719
give AW their flowers that I thought
this was one of the best creatively built
520
00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:07.199
shows that they've done in a while, and it showed, and then it
521
00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:13.760
was executed very well on Saturday Night, which obviously gets you excited with AW
522
00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:16.440
because it's had its peaks and valleys
throughout all of twenty twenty three, and
523
00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:21.280
hopefully they continue to ride this wave
because last couple of shows that they've done
524
00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:24.079
for paper views have been very good
from all out, all in Wrestle Dream,
525
00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:29.840
Full Gear. I think Full Gear
to me is probably their best show
526
00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:32.960
that I've seen in twenty twenty three. Actually, I'm gonna check real quick
527
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:39.679
if that actually is. I know
it's my highest rated one Revolution was four
528
00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:43.679
point two three point nine from You
and I, three point six to three
529
00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:46.719
point seven for Ben Door, four
point zero three point eight all In,
530
00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:51.400
four point four from me, four
point one from you All Out, three
531
00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:53.440
point nine from me, four point
one from you, four point one,
532
00:36:53.559 --> 00:37:00.400
four point two from Wressel Dream and
so Full Gear is your highest rate show
533
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:05.960
and mine is still aw all in
which which doesn't make sense. I did
534
00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:08.800
love that show, but Full Gear
to me is like neck and neck with
535
00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:15.719
that show. Yeah, it just
I just feel like they had a really
536
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:21.480
good creative build towards it. But
here's the conundrum I have to wrap this
537
00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:27.159
all up with Full Gear is I
thought Dynamite and Collision and Rampage shows like
538
00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:36.039
individually or whatever, like they lack
the enthusiasm and the excitement that they used
539
00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:39.039
to have, which makes those shows
like at times hard to go through.
540
00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:43.519
But then there's like these little subtleties
and it builds to a bigger story which
541
00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:45.360
then leads to the pay per view
very well. But I just feel like
542
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:51.400
Dynamite, Rampage Collision have not been
that great lately, which is kind of
543
00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:54.199
strange because the creative going to the
show made sense. The show is well
544
00:37:54.239 --> 00:37:58.559
executed, the pay per views have
been very well executed, but the weekly
545
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:01.280
programming to me kind kind of isn't
where I'd like it to be as an
546
00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:05.920
AW fan. Does that make sense? Yeah, because I think one of
547
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:10.880
my issues with the TV shows is
they're not built like TV shows like there's
548
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:16.239
not the cliffhanger, there's not the
the reason to tune in, Like where
549
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:22.360
they place the matches on the TV
shows doesn't really match where they're going to
550
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:25.960
place it on the pay per view
card, and they don't put the same
551
00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:32.159
behind like ww's first match of the
night or their main event or use their
552
00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:36.159
two biggest matches. It's usually one
of the world title matches kicking off the
553
00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:38.400
show and then the other one's closing
the show. So when they build those
554
00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:44.079
shows those shows, those matches are
still featured in the main event of their
555
00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:49.400
respective shows, and so you understand
the importance behind it, where you know,
556
00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:53.280
you may have the MJF segment you
know early in the show, and
557
00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:57.000
then when you get to the you
know therese like, well it is the
558
00:38:57.079 --> 00:39:01.519
MJF stuff with Roderick and Adam,
and they white more important or less important.
559
00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:07.920
If you have Tony Storm and Hikishida
closing out of store, like their
560
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:12.400
structure is still in flux with their
television shows, and then it kind of
561
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:16.679
lessens the importance because with RAW or
Smacked Down or NXT, there's like a
562
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:21.880
build up to get to the close
of the show, whereas think sometimes ADEW
563
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:25.840
almost books it backwards, where they're
starting high and then finishing low, if
564
00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:29.960
that makes sense. No, I
hear what you're saying. Yeah, I
565
00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:34.400
think if they got the weekly programming
a little bit more fine tuned, I
566
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:38.199
think AW would be rolling again.
But I will say late twenty twenty three,
567
00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:43.320
there should be a huge optimism right
now that twenty twenty four will be
568
00:39:43.360 --> 00:39:46.960
a banner year for AW in my
opinion, and more importantly so, one
569
00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:53.519
maybe two names are off that free
agent wire now and signed to All Elite,
570
00:39:53.559 --> 00:39:57.840
which twenty twenty four is supposed to
be a big year for professional wrestling
571
00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:01.119
signings, and AW has already gotten
a jump. As we talked about in
572
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last weeks show, who will be
that blockbuster signing? We felt that it
573
00:40:06.039 --> 00:40:08.840
was going, you know, will
Ospray would be the signing that we would
574
00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:13.119
want to see. We felt like
it would ultimately not be Will Ospray because
575
00:40:13.159 --> 00:40:16.119
he was due to be a free
agent in February twenty twenty four. We
576
00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:22.280
felt like it would be Sammy Callahan. Instead. We got the twenty twenty
577
00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:25.480
four free agency wire and professional wrestling
going a bit early, as Will Ospray
578
00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:30.719
is in fact All Elite Doctor Trey. He has signed a three year deal
579
00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:34.360
with the company. He will wrap
up in New Japan in February twenty twenty
580
00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:37.599
four and then be All Elite.
Will be based out of the UK during
581
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:42.360
this time, which Pac also does, and he will be a weekly contributor
582
00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:44.679
to All Elite Wrestling for the next
three years. To me, he is
583
00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:46.920
one of the best professional wrestlers on
the planet right now. This is a
584
00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:52.199
huge get and a huge signing for
All Elite Wrestling Doctor Trey. So I
585
00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:55.840
simply ask you in regard to the
signing, did AW have an edge or
586
00:40:55.920 --> 00:41:00.960
is the WWE business model flawed for
these big signings. AW they have the
587
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:05.679
forbidden door. It gives wrestlers an
opportunity to form a relationship with AW.
588
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:10.599
The schedule in AW is more wrestler
friendly than WWE. They have signed some
589
00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:15.440
big names over the years here,
Jay White earlier this year. Now will
590
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:22.360
Ospray is the AW business model when
it comes to these big signings better and
591
00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:28.960
making the WA business model flawed for
the big signings. If you're going off
592
00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:32.559
of do I want to sign with
AW based on just what they do?
593
00:41:32.679 --> 00:41:39.639
Yeah? Probably because the schedules a
lot lighter the pay is comparable, that's
594
00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:45.079
more guaranteed, and not hey at
your merchandise sales factor into it. Things
595
00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:51.199
like that like w does like a
lot of their guys. If I was
596
00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:54.119
going off like structuring my career,
I'd still probably lean WE BUD if I.
597
00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:59.039
If I'm a guy that's in my
mid you know, mid thirties looking
598
00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:04.280
to really establish myself and make a
home. AWS a great place to start
599
00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:07.000
because I don't have to bump as
much, I don't have to work as
600
00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:09.719
much, and I can still make
really really good money and still be featured
601
00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:15.199
on multiple shows. So and when
it comes to signing guys, they do
602
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:19.880
have an edge because I'm pretty sure
if a if WB went to will Ospray
603
00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:23.639
to offer a contract knowing that he
was still under contract New Japana falla lawsuits
604
00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:30.800
with having that working relationship with AW
I think aw can ask permission and they
605
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:36.679
can negotiate in good faith. So
aw Wood comes with things like that is
606
00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:39.880
going to have an edge on WWE
when it comes to signing those international talents
607
00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:44.599
that filter through New Japan. Yeah, it seems like they had a very
608
00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:47.519
big edge for will Ospray. The
rumors of will Ospray potentially going to WWE
609
00:42:47.639 --> 00:42:51.639
had picked up in the last month. We had me very intrigued. Heading
610
00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:54.719
in twenty twenty four. I felt
like he made the right decision, Will
611
00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:59.400
Ospray to go all elite wrestling.
He knows what it's like there. He
612
00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:02.280
has perform there plenty of times now, and I think he'll be a great
613
00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:08.719
addition to their roster. And actually
I thought Dave Meltzer made a really good
614
00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:15.400
point in one of his reports that
AW can offer Will Ospray an opportunity to
615
00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:19.519
be a world champion in twenty twenty
four, something WWE cannot do. Probably
616
00:43:19.559 --> 00:43:23.320
in twenty twenty four, also all
lead Wrestling heading into Wembley Stadium in the
617
00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:27.320
home backyard of Will lost Bray.
I mean, let's put it down now.
618
00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:30.320
If you don't think Will Osprey is
in some sort of world title match
619
00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:34.159
it all in in August twenty twenty
four, I think you're out of your
620
00:43:34.159 --> 00:43:36.679
mind. And the only way that
doesn't happen is if God forbid he gets
621
00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:39.360
hurt and is unavailable to perform that
night. I would fully expect that Will
622
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:43.639
Ospray is an AW world champion in
twenty twenty four. This is a huge
623
00:43:43.679 --> 00:43:46.239
signing, huge get for them,
great move for him to be performing in
624
00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:50.639
the United States promotions, and he
still gets to have a relationship with the
625
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:55.239
New Japan a little bit as well. So one big name down for twenty
626
00:43:55.280 --> 00:44:01.559
twenty four and another may be down
for twenty twenty four as well as According
627
00:44:01.559 --> 00:44:07.000
to reports from Wrestling Hass, several
w RE sources, have you never heard
628
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:10.519
of that? No, I've never
heard of wrestling Haws, But now it's
629
00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:13.880
going on my list of people check
on. Yeah. No, no,
630
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:19.159
they they do a really good The
name is escaping me right now. Nick
631
00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:22.679
Cosman, he used to be a
wrestling ink. Now he's opened up his
632
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:27.760
own website, a Hoss of Wrestling. Okay, I just see. I
633
00:44:27.800 --> 00:44:34.760
was just picturing some big fat country
red bag wrestlin Hoss Wrestling Hass. Okay,
634
00:44:34.920 --> 00:44:39.440
yeah, So House of Wrestling has
said that several w RE sources believe
635
00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:45.320
MJF has quietly re signed with AW
one higher up w source data that have
636
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:49.800
been quote zero talks between the two
sides. They further noted that the idea
637
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:53.039
MGF is said to enter free agency
imminently is a quote false narrative, and
638
00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:59.760
that they believe he has resigned into
twenty twenty seven. I'm not surprised by
639
00:44:59.800 --> 00:45:02.159
this doctor Trey based on the way
that he has been booked. I did
640
00:45:02.280 --> 00:45:07.920
feel like that everybody gunning for him
could be leading towards maybe an exit from
641
00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:14.199
the company. He wasn't involved in
any of the all in promotion promotional material
642
00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:16.519
for twenty twenty four where hes got
people's spider sense is tingling a little bit.
643
00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:21.880
But I think you hear him in
interviews and he's, you know,
644
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:24.679
breaking a lot of kfabe and talking
about how much he loves and appreciates all
645
00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:29.280
elite wrestling and how he wants to
be the guy for the company, and
646
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:36.199
it appears he is staying there,
and this move surprises me. I think
647
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:42.320
MJF is a WWE talent in an
aw ring. He fits that Cody Rhodes,
648
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:47.360
Jade Cargill, mold and mentality.
I figured a guy like him,
649
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:52.039
a guy like Ricky Starks, would
also thrive in w WI and kind of
650
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:59.800
would like the environment more. So
this move is surprising, and that's of
651
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:06.039
and it's also unfortunate because I thought
the bidding war of twenty twenty four is
652
00:46:06.079 --> 00:46:08.840
gonna be a lot of fun.
Yeah, they're like, on one hand,
653
00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:15.039
I am surprised because you know,
why would I. It's like you
654
00:46:15.079 --> 00:46:17.480
and I are big baseball fans and
you get that hot prospect who finally makes
655
00:46:17.559 --> 00:46:22.719
his debut with you know, the
major league club, and then you find
656
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:25.880
out he signed a you know,
eight year contract that's gonna be wave alow
657
00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:29.519
market value, and you're like,
dude, why didn't you just stick to
658
00:46:29.719 --> 00:46:30.559
you know, stick it out to
the end of your contract. You can
659
00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:36.480
have maximized it. But then the
flip side's true as well, where you
660
00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:39.239
get that guy who comes up to
your system, you love him, you've
661
00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:43.880
bonded with him, and then all
of a sudden he jumps to the Red
662
00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:46.280
Sox because they're gonna offer him two
million more a year, and then you're
663
00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:49.760
like, what happened to loyalty?
It's one of those weird things, like
664
00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:52.559
you look at a guy like m
dam who kind of came not really out
665
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:58.360
of nowhere on the independence, like
he had a day, but he's grown
666
00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:02.000
in aw and he's sentence at the
top of the ladder. So on the
667
00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:05.400
one hand, a guy like me
would go, hey, stick it out
668
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:08.400
for a few more months. Maximize
your leverage, you get the best deal
669
00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:12.559
possible for you. But you know
the other side is, look, this
670
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:19.199
company invested in you and showing loyalty
to you and let you be as creative
671
00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:24.199
as you've wanted to be, and
you know you taking the deal shows your
672
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:29.199
loyalty back to them. So it's
almost like a damn if you do,
673
00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:31.800
damned if you don't. Because either
way, if he had jumped at WV,
674
00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:35.559
people would be like, oh,
how dare he leave AW for all
675
00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:38.039
the stuff they did for him?
And then he says, you guys like
676
00:47:38.119 --> 00:47:44.360
you and me are like, he's
probably a better fit in the WWE universe
677
00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:47.800
because MJF is a sports entertainer more
than anything else, and he would be
678
00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:52.840
maximized to his best abilities. But
you've got to give the kid credit for
679
00:47:53.000 --> 00:47:57.599
loyalty. And I mean is one
of his best friends is Cody Rohase.
680
00:47:57.639 --> 00:48:00.960
He could have gone there and had
a G eight spots, but he stayed
681
00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:05.960
loyal to Tony Kahan and showed you
got faith in me, I got faith
682
00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:08.719
in you. So you have to
give the kid credit for loyalty at least.
683
00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:12.679
No, I absolutely do. I
do appreciate the loyalty there, and
684
00:48:14.360 --> 00:48:16.239
yeah, I mean I think this
move works out very well for him obviously.
685
00:48:16.480 --> 00:48:20.079
It's just it's just a little bit
surprising. And by the way,
686
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:22.280
not to mention if it's only a
three year deal. No, no,
687
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:27.599
it's it's a four Well you're right, yeah, because I'm thinking twenty twenty
688
00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:29.599
three still, but yeah, it's
a three year deal. It was a
689
00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:32.800
three year deal. Guess what,
mjf's only twenty eight or twenty nine.
690
00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:39.280
When that contract's up, he could
hit free agency again and then me hitting
691
00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:45.159
his prime. I mean when w
BE comes a colleague. So it's not
692
00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:47.800
like this is his last contract.
This is a chance for him to kind
693
00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:51.960
of No, I agree with you. But he's also said in interviews,
694
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:55.440
which I do believe was not in
character, that he is not looking to
695
00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:59.880
be in professional wrestling rather long either. I think he is looking at Holly
696
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:02.920
Wood. Yeah, but then you
look at you look at the Cody rosipproach
697
00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:07.119
where it's like, hey, let
me take one shot at w B and
698
00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:10.679
see how it goes. Because if
you want to go to Hollywood, WW
699
00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:16.039
is probably a better vehicle than AEW. So, I mean, like I
700
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:19.519
said, he is twenty nine years
old, he can sign a three year
701
00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:22.719
deal with WWEB thirty two if the
end of that deal, and then decide
702
00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:25.000
if he wants to stay in wrestling, go back to AW or go into
703
00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:32.599
Hollywood. So he'd be he's in
a great position no matter what because he's
704
00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:36.679
gonna have money, he's gonna have
leverage and everything else. Like this kid's
705
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:40.440
basically got He's basically like right now
the Golden Goosa Professional Wrestling. I think
706
00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:45.639
for me as a baseball fan,
here we are mid November baseball fans.
707
00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:50.320
We love the hot stove, love
seeing where free agent science are going to
708
00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:52.320
go. And for the first time
that I could ever remember professional wrestling history,
709
00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:55.639
it was looking like twenty twenty four
was going to be a huge hot
710
00:49:55.679 --> 00:50:00.760
stole for professional wrestling. And now
like arguably two of the biggest names,
711
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:06.599
if not the two biggest names,
are now off the radar with will Osbury
712
00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:13.480
signing with AW and reportedly mjf Re
signing with AW. So we'll see heading
713
00:50:13.599 --> 00:50:16.800
twenty twenty four if it ever lives
up to that hot soap potential that everybody's
714
00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:21.039
getting hyped up for because we had
never seen this, especially with the way
715
00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:25.119
that the Internet ages and you know
there was no like in ninety seven,
716
00:50:25.280 --> 00:50:29.440
two thousand and one. It wasn't. The internet wasn't what it is now.
717
00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:32.239
And I think to have that type
of information at your fringing tips with
718
00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:38.239
news reporting and podcasting and this person
go there, do they go here?
719
00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:44.000
And whining and dining and all good
stuff would have been cool and different to
720
00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:49.639
say. Nonetheless, let's get into
w Survivers Series War Games preview predictions.
721
00:50:49.719 --> 00:50:52.079
It comes to us this Saturday from
the All State Arena in Rosemont, Illinois,
722
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:55.960
will preview predict here the five matches, and then we will announce the
723
00:50:57.039 --> 00:50:59.960
holiday schedule and then let you go
be on your merry way for your things
724
00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:04.280
skiving holiday. Here on this week's
edition of SRTU Doc Trey, let's get
725
00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:07.760
to the first match here, Carlito
taking on Santos Escobar, which is announced
726
00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:09.679
on Friday Night's Backdown. I like
that these guys are getting the opportunity to
727
00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:14.840
perform. I'm gonna take Santos Escobar
in this one. Who do you like?
728
00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:20.840
Yeah, I'm taking Santos Escobar with
Cruise and Joaquin turning on the lwoo.
729
00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:22.800
Yeah, I'm with you on that. I like that's the rumors right
730
00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:25.960
now, there's gonna be like these
separate factions, and I do feel like
731
00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:32.159
legato'dell Phantasma reunites. Here. Are
we gonna get l w O red and
732
00:51:32.320 --> 00:51:37.400
LWO green? Yeah? I think
so? Why not? Right? Yeah?
733
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:40.880
Read and grew. Well, there's
the Sometimes they're blue and red for
734
00:51:42.079 --> 00:51:45.639
the Puerto Rican flag. Sometimes they're
red, white and green for the Mexico
735
00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:50.440
flag. There you go, gun
Through Defensie Intercontinental Championship against the Miz Doctor
736
00:51:50.440 --> 00:51:52.400
Trey. Who do you like this
one? I love the Mis, but
737
00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:57.280
I'm taking gun there to retain I
am as well. But I think this
738
00:51:57.400 --> 00:52:01.679
is a match that the Miz earns
Gunther's respect and support. I think that's
739
00:52:01.719 --> 00:52:05.039
the storyline heading in this one,
and that's how I think it plays out
740
00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:07.760
true, where at the end of
the match, Gunther is like pleased and
741
00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:13.039
respects the Miz at the end of
it. Yeah, I did like the
742
00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:15.719
whole Like, I know I'm not
fighting the Miss. I know I'm fighting
743
00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:19.239
Mike Mizana line from Raw the other
night. Yeah No, there was a
744
00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:22.039
really good promo between the two guys. Next match year is Riea Ripley defending
745
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:25.239
the Women's World Championship against Zoe Stark. I'm going to take Ria Ripley to
746
00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:30.280
retain. Yeah, I really want
to pick Zoe and I think in a
747
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year this is where Zoe. I
think a year from now Zoe wins this
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match, but right now I'm taking
to Reea Ripley to retain as well.
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Next match year is the Women's War
Games. Match is Bianca Bella, Charlotte
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Flairer, Shatzi, and Becky Lynch
take on Damage Control Bailey, EO Sky,
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Oscar and Kyrie. Saying Tree,
who do you like this one?
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I'm taking Shatzis, Charlotte, Becky
and uh Bianca uh man that they have
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more name power. Plus I think
this is where the rest of Damage Controlled
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kicks Bailey out coming out of this
match. Yeah, that I'm taking Bianca,
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Charlotte, Shotsy and Becky as well, and I'm with you. I
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think that's the storyline in this one, is that this leads to Bailey being
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kicked out of Damage Control, which
will be strange that she will be back
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as a babyface, possibly Doctor Trey. Yeah, and then it's a question
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of does Dakota stay with EO,
Osca and Kyrie or does she get kicked
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out as well because she's injured.
It's hard to kick somebody out who's injured,
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but then it's hard. She then
becomes the fourth wheel in a sense,
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like one of these is not like
the other three. So it's to
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be interesting what they do with Zakota
Kai. I think she stays because she's
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kind of in their mouthpiece, so
I could see that role being played out
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as she recovers some injury. I
think to up your question is, does
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Bailey return to be the hugger?
Ooh, maybe the high fiber. I
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don't know, but now that looks
like you can get Bailey, Charlotte and
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Becky against EO, Kyrie and Oscar, which would be really really entertating few
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as well, or or Bianca Charlott, It and ba I think you're still
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go to end up a Bianca,
end up a Jade at some point like
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this, Oh yeah, I'm with
you, I'm with you. I thought
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they were kind of teasing the whole
Bailey hugger stuff because they all hugged on
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SmackDown and she said, I don't
do this anymore, all right, haven't
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done it in a long time.
And I was like, hmm, they
775
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got my Spider Sense tingling next batch
here Men's Wargames match could Road Seth,
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Freaking Ronalds, Jay Uzo, Sammy
Zay and they returning Randy Orton take on
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the Judgment Day Damian Priest, Finvaler, Dirty Dominic, Mysterio and JD McDonough,
778
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who are also joined by Drew McIntyre
who is not part of the Judgment
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Day Doctor Trey, I will start
on this one. I'm gonna take Cody,
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Seth, Jay, Sammy and Randy
Orton winning this, and I foresee
781
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that this starts the cracks in the
Judgment Day where they begin similar to the
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match we just discussed on the verge
of kicking out Damian Priests and maybe he
783
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gets replaced by an eventual Drew McIntyre. So I've team Cody, Seth,
784
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Jay, Sammy and Randy Orton won
in this one. See, I have
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a hard time with them because I
picked the baby faces in the women's match,
786
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and typically they try to do one
surprise. So I think I'll take
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Judgment Day because Drew turning is the
cool new thing, even though Randy returnings
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up there, but I think I'll
take I think I'll take Judgment Day just
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because like, I can't have two
babyface teams win at Wargames, so I'll
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take Judgment day either win. Now, I hear you. I had a
791
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tough time making that call as well, but I gotta be different from you
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on least one match. Fair enough, fair enough. We will recap and
793
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review WW Survivor Series war Games on
next week's edition of SRTU on November thirtieth.
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Speaking of upcoming editions of SRTU,
we always do this on the Thanksgiving
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Said Special, the holiday schedule announcement
Thursday December twenty first, our traditional we
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look back at our twenty twenty three
Both Prediction Special Thursday December the twenty eighth.
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It is the last show of twenty
twenty three, which is our annual
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two thousand, twenty three SRT Award
Show Special, and then we kick off
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twenty twenty four on Thursday January fourth
with our twenty twenty four Wrestling Preview show.
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I know aw World's End is going
on during the SRT Award Show and
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the wrestling preview show, Doctor Trey
and I will talk about this off air
802
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a little bit, but I have
a feeling that we'll probably do either some
803
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sort of quick bonus editions of the
podcast where we preview the show and then
804
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maybe predict it during the holiday schedule, or we may just throw them up
805
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on the Facebook and Twitter feeds of
what our predictions are and then recap them
806
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at a later time after the wrestling
preview show. So there you go,
807
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Doctor Trey. The holiday schedule has
been announced. It's going to be here
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in less than four weeks, which
is wild to think about. My friend,
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Yeah, it's weird, like this
is the I don't know you like,
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this feels like the first normal year
we've had in quite a while.
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Like in previous years they kind of
like it becomes of the pandemic. It
812
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kind of felt like it made me
drugged through a little longer. Twenty twenty
813
00:57:05.199 --> 00:57:09.679
three kind of flew by, So
I guess this is also the showing that,
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00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:15.400
hey, we're actually kind of back
to normal now. But holiday schedule
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our favorite time of year because everybody
knows how much I hate the Bull Prediction
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shows and I hate the recap from
the Bull Prediction show, So looking forward
817
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to see how stupid I said it
last year and how idiotic I'll be coming
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00:57:27.440 --> 00:57:30.679
into twenty twenty four. Every year, I always enjoy When Doctor Trey brings
819
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up that he sounds like a redneck
Termit the Frog. I mean, it's
820
00:57:34.760 --> 00:57:38.199
such a contrasting styles that I'm like, Wow, I did not see that
821
00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:43.039
one coming, but he catches me. Every time holiday schedule is upon us,
822
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folks, it's only a matter of
weeks, which is insane. But
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twenty twenty three is coming to a
close here in the next four to five
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weeks. Would that said, let's
get a couple of plugs in spots out
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of the way. You can download
show every Thursday or Friday at Real Guy
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rated dot com, Russell Chattnett on
X and the still Real to Show iTunes
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feed. Don't forget to rate,
review and subscribe to help us come the
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00:58:01.920 --> 00:58:06.480
charts on iTunes. You can follo
us individually and X for myself at SRTU
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Jeff and for Doctor Trey Franklin at
the Doctor Tray, And of course don't
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forget to follow a show on X
at SRTU podcast. With that being said,
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what is going on in the one
for world of Doctor tre Franklin this
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week? Well, like Jeff said, you can follow me on X at
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the Doctor Trey. You can find
me on Facebook and Instagram doctor Trey Franklin.
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When you're on Facebook, check out
Rocke City Championship Wrestling and Spartan Championship
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Wrestling to the shows I work with
here in Alabama. As December second,
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Jeff is the seven year anniversary show
of Rocket City Championship Wrestling, So we
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talk about time flying by like I
was here. We were doing the show
838
00:58:40.280 --> 00:58:44.440
when Rocket City launched, and now
we're hitting the seven year anniversary. So
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December second, seven year anniversion,
which also means the Rocket City Rumble will
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be right around the first of January, which is also one of our favorite
841
00:58:52.039 --> 00:58:57.760
shows the year because dear Lord,
we've had cameraman, crowd people, ballets,
842
00:58:59.119 --> 00:59:01.039
just everybody in the world has jumped
into a rouble at one point or
843
00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:05.159
the other. I mean Conrad Top
and Tons Shiovanni have come down and watched
844
00:59:05.199 --> 00:59:07.239
the Rubble. So it's one of
our favorite shows of the year. So
845
00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:10.559
that was just coming up first of
January. So seven years of Rockett Championship
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Wrestling, thirteen years of the Still
Realtor Show, and neither of us have
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00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:19.159
died yet, So thank you.
Yeah, there's not on wood. Not
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on wood. I'm very thankful for
that to wrap it all up with that
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said, thank you for making this
part of your week. Thank you for
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making this part of your Thanksgiving holiday
week for all those that celebrated. To
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everybody celebrating Thanksgiving Holiday, Enjoy the
holiday, Enjoy the time, Enjoy the
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food, Enjoy the fun, Enjoy
the family, Enjoy the professional wrestling.
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Nonetheless until next week. For doctor
Trey Franklin, I'm Jeff Pack. This
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is the Still Real Toes Show.